[07:05] New bug: #180742 in xserver-xorg-video-amd (main) "lx800 amd_drv.so(with xorg 1.3) still crashes the screen after ctrl alt BS or in shutdown" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180742 [08:44] man this is crazy. my user is making hardy crash like 8 out of ten times i log in =( [08:46] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50905/ [09:24] bug 175682 [09:24] Launchpad bug 175682 in gnome-keyring "GNOME rarely starts from GDM in Hardy" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175682 [09:24] pwnguin: ^ [09:24] gone -> [10:06] actually, g-k doesn't make the xserver crash.. logfile is more useful than .xsession-errors though [11:55] New bug: #180770 in xorg-server (main) "xorg crash after nvidia splash screen blacks out and X crashes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180770 [15:40] New bug: #180802 in xorg-server (main) "Xorg crashed with SIGSEGV in _IO_vfscanf()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180802 [16:37] bryce: do you think we should get the discover-free xorg merge in for alpha3? [16:38] it's not out yet (maybe later today) [16:41] without that there isn't much for people to test :) [16:43] jcristau: I noticed that -intel has libI810XvMC in it, but our openchrome puts it in a separate library. what do you prefer if we'd push openchrome to git.d.o? [16:44] openchrome depends on the lib anyway [16:45] in a separate package you mean? [16:46] uh, yes :) [16:46] i don't think it needs one [16:47] right, if it's not meant for general consumption [16:47] which I don't think it is [16:48] i'm not quite sure how xvmc is supposed to work tho [16:49] "This package provides the XVMC libraries used by the xorg driver" [16:50] I'll ask the packager [16:50] it looks like libxvmc dlopens the driver [16:51] so yeah, no need for a separate package afaics [16:51] (from a quick look at libxvmc/src/XvMCWrapper.c) [19:35] New bug: #180841 in mesa (main) "glXDestroyContext causes segmentation fault with Via Unichrome graphics" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180841 [20:11] anyone know if tjaalton thanks [20:11] yikes [20:11] tjaalton: thanks for th elink [20:12] pwnguin: actually, I don't think it's the same bug :) [20:12] me either [20:12] i get a straight up crash [20:13] not a hang [20:13] and a new user fixes the problem [20:13] provide the Xorg.0.log [20:14] shall i file a bug and attach? [20:14] morning [20:14] hi bryce [20:14] tjaalton: yes, if there's time to get the discover-free xorg in, I say go for it [20:14] its noon, even in portland [20:14] hehe [20:14] that's what I thought too :) [20:15] pwnguin: put it in pastebin first [20:15] heh ok so we got up late here ;-) [20:15] luxury [20:15] I should just move to australia [20:15] was up til 4am working on inkscape [20:16] i seem to live their schedule [20:16] tjaalton: 0.log doesn't have the crash in it =/ [20:16] .old [20:17] hmm, a backtrace [20:17] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51001/ [20:18] nvidia.. [20:18] do you get the same with nv? [20:18] i can try [20:18] but i think so [20:19] i know how you guys like to blame everything on nvidia [20:19] [20:20] a third of all the bugs on x-swat packages are from restricted-modules (>500) [20:21] that backtrace doesn't look like it's nvidia's fault though [20:22] same happened [20:23] then you should get a proper backtrace with gdb [20:25] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingXorg [20:25] since it doesn't hang the machine you can use a vt for gdb [20:26] that package doesn't exist [20:27] oh [20:27] seperate repo [20:27] or xserver-xorg-core-dbg [20:28] is there a difference? [20:28] you can install -dbg directly [20:28] otherwise no [20:47] time for breakfast [20:53] ha, so it _is_ morning! [21:05] you misunderstand. breakfast is whenever you break the fast [21:05] i happened to wake up at 2 [21:09] hrm, well I'm certain it's morning somewhere [21:54] i have a feeling you'll love this [21:55] two backtraces [21:55] one broken pipe and one segfault [21:56] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51014/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51015/ [21:58] broken pipes happen even with the good user, so the second paste is my culprit [22:08] null pointer dereference [22:08] somehow, XkbFindSrvLedInfo returned null [22:10] which causes sli-> to null pointer die [22:12] which is entirely possible [22:14] pwnguin: ok, please file a bug on xorg-server, and attach the backtraces [22:14] okies [22:14] already workin on it ;) [22:15] oh, i love the dupe finder [22:15] Phil Collins causes Nautilus to segfault [22:16] there'll be a new xorg-server snapshot probably tomorrow [22:16] dupe finder? [22:16] on launchpad [22:16] you file a bug, and it suggests possible dupes [22:17] oh right [22:17] similar would be useful for bug triaging [22:17] it helps a bit [22:18] but they either need google level intelligence to figure the algorthim out or smarter users [22:18] xorg-server or xserver-xorg-core? [22:21] does xorg not have their code on some webgit interface? [22:21] yes they do [22:21] im failing to find it by simply browsing their site =( [22:22] http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/ [22:22] xorg-server is the source package of xserver-xorg-core [22:22] thanks [22:22] so x-x-core bugs end up in xorg-server queue [22:23] unfortunately, a new pull doesnt appear like it will fix the bug [22:25] maybe not [22:25] then we'll forward it upstream [22:26] you can try searching bugzilla.fd.o if it's reported already [22:34] tjaalton: brian murray recommends bughelper for dupe finding while triaging [22:35] I've not looked at it in a while; apparently it's got new docs and stuff so should be easier to use I hope [22:37] bryce: cool, I'll check that out [22:40] New bug: #180884 in xorg-server (main) "xkbLEDs causes segfault on login" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180884 [23:19] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=633068 <-- [23:19] the Intel driver + MESA 7.01 shipped with Gutsy is quite buggy with Intel GM965, there are new 'drivers' and was wondering if it was going to be included in the mainstream [23:19] http://www.mesa3d.org/relnotes-7.0.2.html where it mentions among other things that: "Fixed an assortment of i965 driver bugs" && a new Intel driver, version 2.2.0: http://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/...l-2.2.0.tar.gz [23:20] IceKiller: try hardy alpha2, which has those [23:20] tjaalton k ty :) [23:21] tjaalton anychance they are going to update it in their mainstream [23:22] what do you mean? backports for gutsy? [23:23] yeah [23:23] well included into the 'update' stuff.. [23:23] I don't know [23:23] hm k :) tx [23:35] no probably not [23:35] if you want stuff fixed, test and report the testing versions ;) [23:35] it's a lot of work to backport significant driver changes, and the effort is better invested into making hardy better [23:36] yeah [23:37] right; if you want to put in some elbow grease to get patches ported to Gutsy, that would be a great thing! But I've backported as much for -intel as I'm planning for gutsy [23:55] hum, checked how many new bugs there were reported in 2007.. (re: perriers blog on planet.d.o) [23:56] the first bug-id of 2007 was bug 77587, and the first in 2008 was bug 179627 [23:56] Launchpad bug 77587 in ivi "Assertion `expr` failed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77587 [23:56] Launchpad bug 179627 in ubuntu "Laptop battery icon disappears" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179627 [23:56] but not all of the id's are ubuntu bugs [23:57] don't know how to get reliable data out from it