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Pandemic187hmm00:00
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Pandemic187i have .themes, but for some reason it seems to be recognized as an archive00:00
TheSheepPandemic187: that's the archive you just renamed with mv00:00
Pandemic187umm..00:00
TheSheepjust rename it to something else00:01
Pandemic187okay00:01
brianskishoot, i just installed ubuntu instead of xubuntu... is there a list somewhere of packages i should remove before i apt-get install xubuntu-desktop? (i have very little disk space on this machine)00:01
Pandemic187so the theme file is a .tar.gz within a .tar.gz; do i have to unpack both?00:01
TheSheepbrianski: I think you can just remove ubuntu-desktop and then do autoremove00:01
brianskiis that enough?00:01
brianskihmm, i guess i'll find out00:02
brianskithanks TheSheep00:02
TheSheepPandemic187: yes, but thunar should unpack both at the same time00:02
Pandemic187ah, i got it!00:02
Pandemic187thanks00:02
Pandemic187Would you mind answering one more question, TheSheep?00:03
Pandemic187Oh wait, I might not need help.00:04
TheSheepPandemic187: there are two kinds of themes, gtk and xfce themes. the first is for general looks, and you choose it in UI settings, the other is for the window borders, and you set it in WM settings00:04
Pandemic187Or maybe I do.00:04
Pandemic187Ah.00:05
Pandemic187Okay00:05
Pandemic187Are icon themes installed in a similar fashion?00:05
TheSheepPandemic187: yes, but they go to .icons00:05
Pandemic187Makes sense.00:05
TheSheepthere are also system-wide locations: /usr/share/themes and /usr/share/icons, but you need administrator rights to write there00:06
TheSheepyou can start thunar in admin mode with 'gksu thunar'00:06
Pandemic187Okay00:06
TheSheepthemes you put there are visible for all users00:06
Pandemic187Well I only have one user, so it doesn't really matter.00:06
Pandemic187Hmm00:07
Pandemic187I assume icon themes need to be unpacked within the .icons folder?00:07
TheSheepyes00:08
solomo1how do i change my system fonts in xubuntu?00:08
solomo1in ubuntu there's just preferences -> fonts or whatever but i can't find such a thing in xubuntu... it probably doesn't help that it's on a tv so it's quite difficult to make out everything until i do manage to increase the font sizes :)00:08
TheSheepsolomo1: settings->user interface settings00:08
Pandemic187Strange, I did that for the icon theme and it didn't show up00:09
solomo1TheSheep: thanks a bunch :)00:10
TheSheepPandemic187: is there a index.theme file in there?00:10
Pandemic187umm00:10
Pandemic187There are lots of folders00:11
TheSheepit should be in the same folder where 16x16, 24x24, etc. folders are00:11
Pandemic187I don't see folders like that, and I know what you are talking about00:11
TheSheepPandemic187: so what kind of folders are there?00:12
slow-motionn800:12
Pandemic187actions, apps, devices, emblems, mimetypes, places, states00:12
Pandemic187status*00:12
TheSheepso it's one level lower already00:13
TheSheepwhat's inside, .png or .svg files?00:13
Pandemic187svg00:13
TheSheepthen make a folder called 'scalable' and move them into it00:13
Pandemic187within .themes?00:13
Pandemic187err within .icons?00:13
TheSheepit should be .themes/ThemeName/scalable/thesvgfiles.svg00:14
TheSheepsorry00:14
TheSheep.icons00:14
TheSheepnot .themes00:14
TheSheepsorry again00:14
Pandemic187umm00:14
Pandemic187okay00:14
TheSheepit should be .themes/ThemeName/scalable/applications/thesvgfiles.svg00:14
TheSheepit should be .icons/ThemeName/scalable/applications/thesvgfiles.svg00:14
Pandemic187it's strange because the folder does not have the icon theme's name00:14
TheSheepetc.00:14
Pandemic187okay..00:15
TheSheepprobably somewhat raw, not prepared for distribution00:15
Pandemic187perhaps00:15
Pandemic187so i created a folder for the theme name since there wasn't one00:16
Pandemic187now i have .icons/Crashbit/scalable...00:16
TheSheephehe, somehow I knew it's this theme00:18
Pandemic187lol00:18
Pandemic187I like it a lot00:18
Pandemic187Is that right though?00:18
Pandemic187Because I still don't see it under the theme manager.00:18
TheSheepPandemic187: they don't hae the index file, they are just images00:19
Pandemic187so does that mean they have to be applied manually somehow?00:19
TheSheepPandemic187: I suppose you could copy the index file from some other icon theme in /usr/share/icons00:20
TheSheepand see if that works00:20
TheSheepbut I would just wait for the official release00:20
Pandemic187Copy it to where exactly?00:20
Pandemic187yeah that's probably a good idea.00:20
TheSheepto the .icons/CrashBit/00:20
Pandemic187But I think that a previous realease had worked better.00:20
Pandemic187aka it had an index file.00:20
Pandemic187oh well.00:20
Pandemic187Maybe I'll just use black-whtite00:21
Pandemic187white*00:21
Pandemic187Anyway, thanks for your help!00:22
Pandemic187Dinner time though.00:22
marchgoodnight00:57
march02:00 AM here ;)00:58
Pandemic187hi01:13
Pandemic187Anyone use the ALSA mixer on Xubuntu?01:33
nariuscan someone help me get my wireless card working?02:09
Zrax`Hai people!02:56
Zrax`I was wondering is anyone knows how to connect to a windows computer and access the shared files on a network?02:57
thruxtonZrax`: look for an smb client03:08
Zrax`whats smb?03:10
thruxtonZrax`: smb is file sharing protocol03:11
thruxtonZrax`: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20260503:13
Zrax`Thankyou03:13
Zrax`<303:13
thruxtonZrax`: that might not be the most up to date but it will give you an idea, you might even have samba installed, I'm not sure if its in the default install03:15
Zrax`Yeah, I do recall seeing a samba03:15
Zrax`Oh and just one more question03:15
Zrax`Whats the difference between all those different desktops?03:15
Zrax`Like KDE and Gnome and xfce03:16
thruxtonZrax`: they all do the same job, Gnome and KDE are the two largest and full featured, each is built with its own `toolkit' so they look and feel entirely different03:17
thruxtonxfce4 attempts to be more lightweight whilst still retaining functionality03:17
thruxtonZrax`: nothing stopping you from trying them all out03:18
Zrax`Ok, umm, do some programs only work with certain desktops?03:18
thruxtongennerally no, lets say you are running gnome and wish to install a kde app, that kde app will need some of the basic kde libraries to run, so on startup it might feel a bit slower03:19
thruxtonbut once loaded it will be fine03:19
Zrax`Ok, so...03:19
Zrax`Each desktop comes with its own libraries?03:19
thruxtonyes03:20
thruxtonxfce and gnome share some of the same gtk libs though03:20
Zrax`So if those libraries arn't there and a program needs them to run, I will need to install the libraries for it to run?03:20
thruxtonhttp://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Desktops03:21
thruxtonZrax`: yes, but apt will install them for you03:21
Zrax`Automaticly?03:22
thruxtonZrax`: thats the intent yes03:22
thruxtonsometimes there are problems but debian/ubuntu has a very good packaging system03:23
Zrax`Cool03:23
Zrax`Thankyou once more03:23
thruxtonnp, good luck!03:23
Zrax`No doubt I will be back in here again at a later stage :P03:24
thruxton:)03:24
ronnie_having some audio problems with mixer, anyone mind helping? http://i6.tinypic.com/72tpppc.png05:03
ronnie_don't know if ubuntu mixer is same as xfce one05:04
ronnie_maybe I should toy with alsamixer some05:04
brianskidoes xubuntu use significantly less cpu than gnome?09:56
brianskii mean i know it uses less ram, but what about cpu?09:57
TheSheepbrianski: by default, it uses applications that are faster and require less cpu10:00
TheSheepbrianski: for example, abiword instead of openoffice10:00
brianskiyeah, but what about the gui itself10:00
brianskii mean, i mainly use firefox, pidgin, perl, and cc10:01
brianskidoes it use some sort of firefox on a diet? ;-)10:01
TheSheepI don't think those four differ10:01
TheSheepyou could try Opera instead of firefox, I guess10:02
TheSheepor epiphany10:02
brianskiugh i've tried epiphany10:03
brianskiand opera doesn't do much or me10:03
brianskiguess i'll just stick with my bloated gnome for now10:03
brianskithanks tho10:03
TheSheepah, and xubuntu doesn't have those .Net plugins :)10:04
TheSheepbrianski: one thing I noticed is that using a fast gtk theme engine helps a lot -- the Human theme is not very fast10:05
TheSheepbrianski: xubuntu uses Murrina which is much faster10:05
Pandemic187Anyone alive?10:18
kwhkhi, any one has upgraded to pidgin 2.3.1 on xubuntu?10:26
maxi_Hi, I'am using Xubuntu 7.0413:07
ere4si!hi13:08
ubotuHi! Welcome to #xubuntu!13:08
maxi_I've a problem with screen saver setting13:08
ere4siwhat happens?13:08
maxi_When try to access to Screen Saver Configuration the system hang13:08
ere4sitried a reboot?13:09
maxi_yes13:09
maxi_Then I can't disabled the screensaver13:11
ere4sitry this page - http://linuxreviews.org/quicktips/screenblanking/13:14
maxi_Are there any manner to change screensaver setting by hand, modify a config file maybe?13:17
ere4siTo turn off screen blanking:  xset s off13:19
ere4sia quote from that page13:19
ere4sixscreensaver can be stopped and terminated with xscreensaver-command -exit. add to apps-system-pref-sessions-startup13:22
maxi_ok, I will try13:23
ere4sik13:24
maxi_I tried to set off with xset s off, but this not work13:26
maxi_when I try to access at screensaver setting the system hang and I must reboot13:28
ere4siin a terminal type   xset    and see the last options - does it say anything about screensaver maxi_?13:33
maxi_doing a xset -q, the screen saver config are:13:35
maxi_prefer blanking: yes13:35
maxi_allow exposure: yes13:36
maxi_timeout:0   cycle:013:36
ere4siI installed vlc to watch movies 'cause it has an option to disable the screensaver13:37
maxi_sorry, I'am a linux beginner :(13:37
ere4siis that what your trouble is?13:37
ere4siwatching movies :)13:37
ere4sitry   xset s noblank13:38
maxi_my main problem is when I try to update Xubuntu 7.04 to Xubuntu 7.10, then after some time, apparently the screen saver begin to work and the installation hang (because the system hang of course)13:46
TheSheepmaxi_: update from the command line13:48
TheSheepmaxi_: press alt+ctrl+f1 to switch to a text console13:48
ere4sido it from the login prompt13:53
maristohello14:06
maristoI have not questions...14:06
maristo:)14:06
thruxtonmaristo: just ask them14:10
ere4simaristo: lucky you :)14:10
ICQnumber_ hi, howto start an application as root in alt f2 window, something like kdesu in kde?14:54
TheSheepsudo15:01
maxi_Is possible update xubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 from CD ?16:09
maxi_Are the any comand line for this ?16:10
TheSheepmaxi_: you'd just have to add the cd as a package source16:11
maxi_sorry, how can do it?16:13
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TheSheepmaxi_: I'm not sure16:23
TheSheep!upgrade16:23
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes16:23
xubnikGood morning!16:28
xubnikI'm new on using Linux systems, so I started with xubuntu. My first "problem": How to playback .mp3-files? - I tried with a double-click, and a media player opened, but it didn't playback, but it shut down.16:30
WinMacI have tried to install xubuntu 7.10 on my other computer, When i put in my live cd, i select "Start or Install Xubuntu", the linux kernal loads, the Xubuntu loading thing moves left and right, and something called "Busy" somthing loads and i have  a list of commands16:30
xubnikWhich driver do I have to install?16:31
xubnikAnd where can I get it?16:31
TheSheep!mp316:32
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats16:32
xubnikThanks! I'll try to install extra plugins.16:34
xubnikSo I'm installing vlc player now (apt-get install vlc*)16:40
TheSheepgood choice16:41
TheSheepfor movies at least16:41
TheSheepfor music I recommend mpd+sonata16:41
xubnikYes, I heared about this before, it opens files like streams, so it could read damaged files, too.. ;)16:41
xubnikmpd and sonata? - this I didn't heared.16:42
TheSheepxubnik: mpd is nice beacuse it runs on yuor computer as service, starts playing before you log out and plays even when you swithc users. Sonata is just a kidn of remote control for it16:42
TheSheepbefore you log in16:42
TheSheepyou can also control it from another computer16:43
xubnikOh, nice.16:43
xubnikI think I hae to get it. ;)16:43
TheSheepthere are a lot of clinet (controllers) for mpd, I use Sonata and mpc (a command line client, for binding to keys)16:43
xubnikThank you for this tip.16:43
xubnikOk, and which ones are GUI-clients/-remotecontrol applications for mpd?16:44
xubnikIf my English is bad, I'm sorry: I'm from Germany. ;)16:46
TheSheepxubnik: I know of Sonata, Pympd, Gmpc16:48
TheSheepxubnik: your English is very good16:48
xubnikOk, Thank you.16:49
TheSheepxubnik: there is a list at http://musicpd.org/clients.shtml16:49
TheSheepxubnik: there is even a panel plugin for xfce :)16:49
TheSheepomg, gbemol looks like another amarok clone :(16:53
patogenHow do I connect to a wlan?16:57
patogenUsing iwlist eth1 scan I get two available16:58
patogenone is mine and the other is my neighbour16:59
TheSheeppatogen: the simpliest way is through system->network16:59
patogenHehe thank you, worked like a charm :D17:01
patogenHow do I start that from the terminal?17:01
TheSheepiwconfig eth1 essid any17:02
TheSheepor essid 'your essid here'17:02
TheSheep!wifi17:02
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs17:02
PsynoKhi0greetings, shouldn't xubuntu gutsy be able automount USB pens out of the box?17:03
TheSheeppatogen: yes17:03
TheSheepsorry17:03
TheSheepPsynoKhi0: yes17:03
PsynoKhi0hmm17:04
PsynoKhi0HAL detects the hotplug but that's it17:04
PsynoKhi0hang on17:04
TheSheepPsynoKhi0: you can configure it in thunar in edit->prefernces->advanced->configure volume manager17:04
xubnikTheSheep: OK. Now I have installed mpd and sonata, but if I set up my music folder (external drive), and search for *.mp3 file name, he doesn't find anything..17:05
patogenTheSheep: Thank you very much :-)17:05
TheSheepxubnik: hmm... is it readable for user mdp?17:05
TheSheepmpd?17:05
xubnikI don't know. Is there a user "mpd"?17:05
TheSheepxubnik: there is since the moment you installed mpd17:06
PsynoKhi0TheSheep: yep, every box is ticked in there for removable media17:06
TheSheepPsynoKhi0: then it seems it has trouble detecting/mounting it17:06
TheSheepPsynoKhi0: check dmesg17:07
xubnikIt's a FAT-system (I'm using windows normally), I don't know if xubuntu doesn't give permission for other users to access external drives.17:07
TheSheepxubnik: it may be the case17:07
TheSheepxubnik: you can try and mount it so that it's readable for all users (there are tutorials) or just use some simplier music player17:07
xubnikWait, I'll try..17:08
PsynoKhi0TheSheep: usbview doesn't recognize the drive... usbdevfs missing?17:10
TheSheepPsynoKhi0: unlikely17:10
TheSheepPsynoKhi0: did you try to mount it manually?17:11
PsynoKhi0TheSheep: no17:11
PsynoKhi0not yet17:11
PsynoKhi0trying to exhaust other possibilities first17:12
PsynoKhi0ok I have dmesg here, what should I look for?17:12
TheSheeplook at the last few lines after you insert the pen17:12
TheSheepit should tell about how it found a new device and stuff17:13
TheSheeplook if there are any errors17:13
PsynoKhi0ah you mean dmesg from a terminal, not the logfile... hang on17:13
TheSheepit's the same17:14
PsynoKhi0here goes: sda117:14
TheSheepif it's more than 3 lines, use pastebin please17:14
PsynoKhi0ok will do17:15
PsynoKhi0TheSheep: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50979/17:20
PsynoKhi0a firewal event slipped in there but that should be it17:20
TheSheepPsynoKhi0: looks good17:21
PsynoKhi0I think I managed once to make usbview see the USB pen with a modprobe stunt, but that was when hotplug didn't work at all17:29
TheSheepPsynoKhi0: have you tried googling for your pen make/model and linux/ubuntu?17:41
PsynoKhi0on it right now17:41
WinMacI put in my Xubuntu 7.10, select "Start or Install Xubuntu", the Linux Kernal loads, then the Xubuntu logo shows up, and the loading bar moves back and forth, then i get a "BusyBox v1.1.3" How can I install Xubuntu, the cd worked on my other computer.17:44
TheSheepWinMac: you can try with different boot options17:52
TheSheepWinMac: you get a help screen when you press f1 at the boot menu17:52
TheSheepWinMac: you can also try searching the forums for your particular make/model of the computer, maybe someone had already a similar problem17:52
WinMacI dont get it, It installed 100% fine on a slower computer, and now it wont work on this faster one17:53
WinMaci'll try the F1 thing now17:54
TheSheepWinMac: it might require some boot options if the hardware is not 100% compatible17:54
PsynoKhi0USB 2.0 devices are backward compatible with the USB 1.1 standard anre't they?17:56
TheSheepPsynoKhi0: they are17:56
PsynoKhi0thought I was getting nuts17:57
nanonymePsynoKhi0, yes, at USB 1.1 speeds17:57
PsynoKhi0gnome-volume-manager is up and running too...17:59
PsynoKhi0or is it...18:00
PsynoKhi0ermm ps -ef | grep gnome-volume-manager returns 11517 11411  3 18:51 pts/0    00:00:00 grep gnome-volume-manager18:01
TheSheepPsynoKhi0: thunar has its own volume manager18:05
PsynoKhi0ah18:06
TheSheepand I think it doesn't have to run all the time -- dbus will start it when needed18:07
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PsynoKhi0ok I even have gnome-mount installed... clueless18:43
PsynoKhi0thunar-volman is there too...18:53
TheSheepPsynoKhi0: try mounting it with mount18:56
TheSheepPsynoKhi0: as root18:57
PsynoKhi0sudo mount -vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbkey ?19:04
PsynoKhi0ffs I so hate how Firefox ends up eating all my CPU power after a while19:05
PeckaHdual core -> it eats only one core :P19:09
totalwormface:D19:09
PeckaHand BOINC eats the other core..19:09
Pandemic187Can anyone help with configuring my sound?19:13
PsynoKhi0Pandemic187:  what soundcard are you suing?19:21
PsynoKhi0using even19:21
Pandemic187An SB Audigy 219:21
Pandemic187My sound works fine in Ubuntu when I use the ALSA mixer, but that doesn't seem to be an option in Xubuntu, PsynoKhi019:22
Pandemic187hello?19:25
PsynoKhi0do you see the sound mixer plugin on your top desktop bar?19:25
PsynoKhi0or wherever you get it19:25
Pandemic187Oh good19:26
Pandemic187Well, I added one19:26
Pandemic187There wasn't one there already.19:26
PsynoKhi0ok19:26
Pandemic187So I do have two device options.19:26
PsynoKhi0can you increase the volume?19:26
Pandemic187yes19:27
PsynoKhi0oh... Audigy and AC97?19:27
PsynoKhi0nvm, is it working now?19:31
PsynoKhi0ok what directory should I mount my USB to?19:31
PsynoKhi0something like /media/usb ?19:33
thruxtonPsynoKhi0: yeah, /media/ is a good place for removable stuff19:34
PsynoKhi0ty19:34
PsynoKhi0fat or vfat as a file system? the key has files from a WinXP machine19:35
thruxtonmost likely vfat19:37
thruxtontry it, mount will tell you if its wrong19:37
PsynoKhi0ok I tried /media/usb mountpoint doesn't exist19:39
thruxtonsudo mkdir /media/usbdrive/19:39
thruxtonor whatever you want to call it19:39
PsynoKhi0I don't want to call it anything I want it to automount :(19:39
thruxtonyou still need a mount point19:40
thruxtonyour hanging another filesystem off the / tree, it needs to know where to put it19:40
PsynoKhi0ermm are USB mp3 players handled differently from plain USB keys?19:41
thruxtonit depends, I have /media/ipod/ for example and my ipod can be read directly just like any other usb drive19:42
Pandemic187i'm having connection problems - i'll be back19:42
PsynoKhi0ok no error message when mounting by hand... trying to access the key's content now19:44
Pandemic187ugh19:46
Pandemic187I'm back..19:46
PsynoKhi0wb19:46
PsynoKhi0ok so I can see the files in Thunar19:46
PsynoKhi0took a while to show up though19:47
PsynoKhi0ermm can't see anything anymore :)19:48
PsynoKhi0the key disconnected itself...19:49
PsynoKhi0it isn't appearing in the device manager anymore19:49
PsynoKhi0is there some kind of timeout on USB hubs??19:52
thruxtonnot that I know of19:53
thruxtonbrb19:53
PsynoKhi0alright, dmesg returns a lot of stuff like this19:57
PsynoKhi0[28212.608000] FAT: Directory bread(block 24891) failed19:57
PsynoKhi0[28212.608000] scsi 4:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device19:57
Niklas_25I did CTRL+Z on a process and it stopped. How do I resume that process? And, when I have got my process back, how do I get a running process into the background without stopping it? CTRL+Z stopping the process...20:03
prooghow do i make a launcher accept a file being drg'n'dropped on it?20:05
proognalioth, do you know how o make a launcher in xfce accept file arguments?20:06
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Ec1ipseR!ru20:19
ubotuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke20:19
LaneyAnyone know how to stop the display from suspending after 10 minutes? It happens no matter what I disable (even DPMS in xorg.conf)...20:40
PsynoKhi0standby mode or blank screensaver?20:43
LaneyPsynoKhi0: I changed my screensaver to something else to see if it was that, and I get a blank screen after 10 minutes. I also increased all of the timeouts I could find to above 10 minutes and it still cuts off exactly on 10.20:45
PsynoKhi0Laney: ah... sorry I don't know :(20:46
protocolXhi guys20:46
protocolXhappy new years all20:46
protocolXjust wonderin..ibm notpad ...p2  ..64 megs of ram..will xbuntu run on it20:47
protocolXim new to linux..been done with Windows for a while...Macs whch i use are a tad bit pricey for my taste..so linux here i come20:48
protocolXany help would be apreciated20:48
PsynoKhi0xubuntu should run as long as you install from an Alternate CD and stay away from big apps like OpenOffice (stick to AbiWord and Gnumeric)20:49
PsynoKhi0you could try even lighter distro like Puppy Linux20:50
PsynoKhi0och Slax Popcorn20:50
protocolXnoted20:50
protocolXthanks man20:50
PsynoKhi0though Xubuntu has a larger support and better translation (if it' important to you)20:50
PsynoKhi0it gets updated more regularly too, and the community is kinda big20:51
protocolXlike i said i new to linux..i gonna buy myself a new but cheap laptop, hows wifi support in linux20:52
PeckaHgood20:52
protocolXya, im really liking what im discovering online when it comes to community, i think linux is gonna be great and breath of fresh here20:52
protocolXaier20:52
protocolXair20:52
protocolXdamm stubby fingers. :=)20:53
protocolXI'm a hug MAC fan, but im finding harder and harder to justify the prices they charge20:53
protocolXGotta split, thanks all...ill be seeing ya around20:55
PsynoKhi0ah crap, forgot puppy linux wasn't that great to start from the live CD with less than 128MB20:57
tuxic1what is Puppy linux20:58
PsynoKhi0a small linus distro20:58
PsynoKhi0linux*20:58
tuxic1isnt this the xubuntu chat?20:59
PsynoKhi0he was asking if Xubuntu would work on his old comp20:59
tuxic1oh ok20:59
tuxic1nm then21:00
rokraHello21:30
PsynoKhi0hi21:32
PsynoKhi0Laney?21:34
LaneyPsynoKhi0?21:34
PsynoKhi0just a wild guess, do you have ACPI on?21:34
LaneyPsynoKhi0: Er, I don't know. How do I check?21:35
Laney(I'm seeing this on two machines)21:35
PsynoKhi0several ways I can think of.... /var/log/dmesg file, ps -ef | grep acpi in a terminal... the hal device manager(21:38
LaneyI see an acpid process21:39
PsynoKhi0that's for energy management21:41
PsynoKhi0but lsmod | grep acpi shows if ti's loaded21:42
PsynoKhi0it's*21:42
LaneyI see asus_acpi on my laptop and acpi_cpufreq on desktop21:43
LaneyShall I try rmmod?21:43
PsynoKhi0only those 2?21:44
Laneyhttp://orangesquash.org.uk/~laney/acpi is desktop's output21:44
PsynoKhi0I wouldn't touch it on the laptop21:45
LaneyCan't see cpufreq having anything to do with it - seems like it's just for speedstep21:45
PsynoKhi0yup21:45
* Laney grumbles21:47
LaneyI asked on ubuntu-uk, hopefully they'll have some answers21:47
PsynoKhi0*note to self: dump wild guesses*21:47
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PsynoKhi0anyone available?22:33
rokraPsynoKhi0: alway23:33
PsynoKhi0hehe23:34
PsynoKhi0can ACPI cause random disconnects from the USB hub on a pre-2000 PC?23:34
PsynoKhi0or maybe APIC?23:40
crimsunACPI on pre-2000 machines?  Heh, yeah, can be very problematic.23:41
crimsunI don't think that's necessarily where I'd start troubleshooting hardware, however.23:42
PsynoKhi0hmmm APIC then23:43
PsynoKhi0?23:43
crimsundo you have an AMD K6-2 or something?23:43
PsynoKhi0yes23:44
crimsunthen it's probably not ACPI at all but apic as you alluded to.23:47
crimsunhave you tried using " noapic nolapic"?23:47
PsynoKhi0not yet23:48
PsynoKhi0do I need to do update-grub after modifying the menu.lst file?23:50
crimsunyes23:51
crimsunpresuming you edited the # KOPTS line23:52
PsynoKhi0alrighty I'll try that23:52
crimsun(or is it # KOPT?)23:52
PsynoKhi0do I need to add irqpolli pci=routeirq23:52
PsynoKhi0oops irqpoll*23:52
crimsunonly if you need them23:53
PsynoKhi0how do I know? hehe23:53
crimsunyou'll know. :-)23:55
PsynoKhi0that sounds scary :(23:58

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