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| carlos | morning | 08:02 |
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| indu | hi all | 08:52 |
| indu | I need help in loggerhead configurations | 08:53 |
| kiko | hello indu | 08:53 |
| kiko | loggerhead configurations? | 08:53 |
| indu | can I get any help here regarding this | 08:53 |
| indu | logggerhead, a bazaar web front end | 08:53 |
| kiko | right | 08:53 |
| kiko | indu, you might have more luck at #bzr | 08:53 |
| kiko | though mwhudson might know something about it too | 08:53 |
| indu | but #bzr no, one is responding to my queries | 08:54 |
| kiko | indu, maybe try later, it's kinda early still | 08:54 |
| indu | even there I am asking mwhudson, but i think today he is not avalilable, as he was helping me the other day | 08:54 |
| indu | kiko, any idea from ur side? | 08:54 |
| kiko | I don't know anything about loggerhead | 08:55 |
| kiko | indu, is there a mailing list about it? | 08:55 |
| indu | i dont find any | 08:55 |
| kiko | indu, well, I know that mwhudson is off on leave until feb 4th | 08:58 |
| indu | kiko, oh no, i need this configs, very soon | 08:58 |
| kiko | indu, you might want to contact robey, the former maintainer: https://edge.launchpad.net/~robey | 08:58 |
| indu | kiko, can you suggest me someone else who knows about this | 08:58 |
| kiko | that's the only person I know | 08:58 |
| kiko | it's probably something you can figure out yourself, in particular if you look at the source | 08:59 |
| kiko | anyway, that's the best I can advise. | 08:59 |
| indu | ok kiko thankyou | 08:59 |
| mpt | Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! | 08:59 |
| indu | kiko, i have posted my query here, https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/loggerhead/+question/21630 | 09:17 |
| kiko | indu, okay, cool. | 09:19 |
| mpt | hey kiko | 09:33 |
| mpt | Would you be able to change the owner of Geda <https://launchpad.net/geda> as requested by Peter Clifton in launchpad-users@? | 09:33 |
| mpt | ("Changing ownership of gEDA project", 2007-12-30) | 09:34 |
| ubotu | New bug: #180972 in malone "Launchpad doesn't recognise Trac's 'accepted' status" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180972 | 09:35 |
| kiko | yes will do so now | 09:35 |
| mpt | thanks | 09:35 |
| Fujitsu | mpt: Hah, I was just about to ask the same thing, after talking to Peter yesterday. | 09:36 |
| mtaylor | kiko: any good ideas on how to build something with sun java on ppa? | 09:38 |
| Fujitsu | Ewww. | 09:38 |
| Fujitsu | I'm not sure if infinity worked his magic there as well. | 09:39 |
| geser | Fujitsu: did you got an answer for the missing Contents file for hardy? | 09:39 |
| kiko | mtaylor, well, is sun java in Ubuntu? | 09:39 |
| Fujitsu | geser: I did not. | 09:40 |
| mtaylor | kiko: it is - but it requires a click-through license | 09:40 |
| mtaylor | kiko: which doesn't work in non-interactive :( | 09:40 |
| Fujitsu | mtaylor: Try build-depending on it. If it doesn't work, someone should poke infinity. | 09:40 |
| elmo | Fujitsu: hr did, it's the same chroots | 09:40 |
| Fujitsu | elmo: Ah, thanks. | 09:40 |
| kiko | mtaylor, so if you build-depend it fails? | 09:40 |
| Fujitsu | s/hr/he/, I presume? Or has HR got more technical? :P | 09:40 |
| mtaylor | kiko: yes. the sun-java-jdk aborts | 09:40 |
| mtaylor | s/aborts/install aborts/ | 09:41 |
| kiko | mtaylor, hmmm, interesting problem. how does anything build against it, though? | 09:41 |
| mtaylor | kiko: I'm not sure anything does | 09:41 |
| Fujitsu | mtaylor: Is there any reason you can't build against icedtea? | 09:41 |
| mtaylor | kiko: but you know - source packages aren't always source packages to java people -- they're weird | 09:42 |
| mtaylor | Fujitsu: hrm. you know, I haven't tried icedtea yet | 09:42 |
| * mtaylor goes to try that right now | 09:42 | |
| Fujitsu | icedtea is generally better, and it works in most cases that Sun Java does. | 09:43 |
| elmo | mtaylor: where's a build log of when it fails? | 09:43 |
| elmo | (but yes, icedtea would be better, if it works) | 09:43 |
| mtaylor | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/11162870/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-i386.ndb-connectors_0.5.6.3.7.1-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 09:43 |
| Fujitsu | Hmmm... | 09:44 |
| elmo | mtaylor: thanks, I'll ask infinity to look into why it failed, it shouldn't have | 09:44 |
| mtaylor | elmo: cool. | 09:44 |
| mtaylor | in the meantime, I'll give icedtea a shot | 09:44 |
| mtaylor | actually, that makes me thirsty | 09:45 |
| * Fujitsu sees that key being set in the .bash_history of the Hardy i386 chroot, at least. | 09:45 | |
| Fujitsu | elmo: Maybe he only did it for Hardy? | 09:45 |
| elmo | Fujitsu: ah, yeah, looks like it was only hardy. since we have an example of others needing done, I guess we can do them now | 09:47 |
| Fujitsu | Yep. | 09:47 |
| elmo | what do PPAs support again? | 09:47 |
| Fujitsu | i386/amd64/lpia. | 09:48 |
| elmo | sorry, suite wise | 09:48 |
| elmo | gutsy, hardy... ? | 09:48 |
| Fujitsu | dapper -> hardy | 09:48 |
| * Fujitsu points at /ubuntu/+ppas | 09:48 | |
| Fujitsu | I think it shows it there now, at least. | 09:48 |
| mtaylor | lpia fails for me alot... but that's ok... I don't have any of those :) | 09:49 |
| Fujitsu | It is a somewhat special arch, so I'm not surprised. | 09:49 |
| mtaylor | it would be nice if there were a lp option somewhere to turn off archs for a ppa | 09:50 |
| mtaylor | it doesn't _Really_ matter | 09:50 |
| mtaylor | but I hate wasting the machine time | 09:50 |
| * Fujitsu petitions for P-a-s for PPAs. | 09:50 | |
| elmo | err, PPAs do use P-a-s? | 09:51 |
| Fujitsu | elmo: That was turned off a couple of months ago. | 09:51 |
| * elmo rolls his eyes | 09:51 | |
| * Fujitsu finds the bug | 09:52 | |
| kiko | there was actually a bug filed requesting it, too :) | 09:52 |
| elmo | kiko: that doesn't make it a good idea :-P | 09:52 |
| Fujitsu | Bug #144257 | 09:52 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 144257 in soyuz "ppa builds should not be affected by P-A-S" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144257 - Assigned to Celso Providelo (cprov) | 09:52 |
| * mtaylor is knocked over by flying acronyms | 09:52 | |
| elmo | I somehow, and handwavingly, think there ought to be a better feedback loop for those kind of changes | 09:54 |
| Fujitsu | elmo: Quite possibly, yes. | 09:54 |
| kiko | elmo, well, we do mail out a list of changes every release | 09:54 |
| Fujitsu | kiko: That doesn't seem to cover all changes. | 09:54 |
| kiko | it's just that it's hard to sift through it to find what you want | 09:54 |
| kiko | Fujitsu, it does. | 09:54 |
| mtaylor | alright - here we go build-depping on icedtea | 09:54 |
| kiko | Fujitsu, it only doesn't cover all changes when the change is really invisible to the end-user -- which is rarely | 09:55 |
| Fujitsu | Not those that never have bugs filed for them, and are fixes that remove `bugs' that turn out to be features requested by members of the distro team months earlier.... | 09:55 |
| kiko | Fujitsu, the release notes are not driven by bugs. they are driven by changes to the codebase. | 09:55 |
| Fujitsu | If there were bugs on everything, people could scream before the release broke things. | 09:56 |
| kiko | not really | 09:56 |
| kiko | there will always be changes that have unexpected effects | 09:56 |
| elmo | kiko: yeah, and in theory, I could subscribe to launchpad bugs to and follow things that way | 09:56 |
| elmo | kiko: both are too high bandwidth for me | 09:56 |
| kiko | elmo, you could filter only soyuz bugs, if that helps. but it's high-volume. | 09:56 |
| Fujitsu | If I saw a bug labelled "Secruity uploads shouldn't announce to <release>-changes", I would have questioned the validity of it, for example. | 09:57 |
| elmo | kiko: I guess what I'm really suggesting is that before a major behavioural changes to soyuz, in particular, should be discussed with major stakeholders (nb: not me) first | 09:57 |
| Fujitsu | kiko: I like the new feeds for keeping up to date with bugs. | 09:57 |
| kiko | elmo, we try to, but it's hard to decide what is a "major behavioural change" | 09:57 |
| kiko | Fujitsu, wasn't that a side-effect of another bug-fix, not actually an intentional change? | 09:58 |
| elmo | kiko: and btw, that bug was committed as !log :-P | 09:58 |
| elmo | so it wasn't in the release notes | 09:58 |
| kiko | elmo, really? now that's weird. | 09:58 |
| Fujitsu | kiko: I don't know. The people involved ran off and discussed it elsewhere one I mentioned it to someone. | 09:58 |
| Fujitsu | *once | 09:59 |
| kiko | Fujitsu, and fixed it, too? :) | 09:59 |
| Fujitsu | That they did. | 09:59 |
| kiko | mpt, done. | 09:59 |
| Fujitsu | Thanks kiko, Peter will be most pleased. | 09:59 |
| mpt | thanks kiko | 09:59 |
| Fujitsu | All but one member of their team seems to love LP. | 09:59 |
| cprov | good morning, guys | 10:23 |
| Fujitsu | Hey cprov. | 10:24 |
| geser | Hi cprov | 10:24 |
| cprov | hey, what's the alternative for PPA-Pas ? first, nobody was up to change P-a-s based on PPA inputs, thus it was turned off for PPAs. Now you seem to want it back ? | 10:26 |
| Fujitsu | User-customisable P-a-s would be workable, I presume. | 10:27 |
| Fujitsu | Is Soyuz's P-a-s support implemented sanely enough that that it could easily grab them from a DB, rather than the traditional file? | 10:28 |
| cprov | Fujitsu: no, it is still file-based | 10:29 |
| Fujitsu | Ah. That would make it a bit more difficult :( | 10:29 |
| cprov | Fujitsu: you can always make you package 'i386 amd64' instead of 'any' | 10:30 |
| Fujitsu | I'm not one who wants it, but that is an option, I guess. | 10:30 |
| Fujitsu | Hmm... Won't that just cause sbuild to fail early? | 10:30 |
| cprov | Fujitsu: yes, not-respecting PPA will cause more build failures, but OTOH it allow developers to work on the fix instead of being blocked by a P-a-s change | 10:33 |
| Fujitsu | True. | 10:34 |
| cprov | Fujitsu: per-PPA P-a-s sound too complicated for the PPA-approach | 10:34 |
| Fujitsu | I guess you probably do want to keep it simple. | 10:35 |
| ubotu | New bug: #180983 in soyuz "PPA binary package size counter is wrong" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180983 | 11:16 |
| ubotu | New bug: #180984 in launchpad "PPA's Packages and Packages.gz ignore recommends and suggests packages control section" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180984 | 11:16 |
| Fujitsu | Dupe. | 11:17 |
| kiko | yeah | 11:21 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #180990 in soyuz "Misleading warning on oversized PPAs" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180990 | 11:55 |
| ubotu | New bug: #180992 in launchpad "Launchpad prevents us to create RSYNC only archive mirrors" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180992 | 12:15 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #181009 in malone "Difficult to incorporate a comment into the bug description" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181009 | 13:35 |
| ubotu | New bug: #181013 in malone "References to other bugs are mysterious in mail notifications" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181013 | 13:45 |
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| gmb | Good use of the word "mysterious". | 13:54 |
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| soren | I did a vgabios upload yesterday (changes file: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/11180130/vgabios_0.6a-3ubuntu1_source.changes). It shows "Launchpad-Bugs-Fixed: 180756" as expected, but the bug wasn't closed. Is this because the bug was reported against kvm? Should I have added changed the bug to be against vgabios first? | 14:10 |
| uws | Hmm. It seems I can't delete a series for my project on lp.net. Can someone please delete this? https://launchpad.net/gnome-specimen/ignore-this | 14:46 |
| uws | I made a mistake, it should've been a release in the development series | 14:46 |
| uws | (which I've already added) | 14:46 |
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| kiko | uws, will do, hang on. | 15:02 |
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| uws | kiko: I should be able to do this myself right? I'm the maintainer | 15:04 |
| uws | and the owner of the project in lp | 15:05 |
| kiko | uws, I've done it. yeah, it's a bug, but easy to work around. | 15:08 |
| effie_jayx | hello all | 15:18 |
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| effie_jayx | a quick rosetta question, Could one language be translated from another language that is not English? | 15:18 |
| uws | kiko: how can I workaround it? | 15:22 |
| kiko | uws, I've done it for you. | 15:23 |
| uws | kiko: Thanks. But I don't trust myself... I might make this mistake again some time in the future ;) | 15:26 |
| kiko | uws, just ask and we'll fix it -- it's our fault until we fix the bug | 15:27 |
| * uws hands some more cookies to kiko | 15:27 | |
| uws | good code monkey, hmm... s/cookies/bananas/ ;-) | 15:27 |
| kiko | heh | 15:32 |
| effie_jayx | anyone know if I can translate from a language other than English to a third language? | 15:34 |
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| * effie_jayx tries the ubuntu-translators mailing list | 15:39 | |
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| mahoney | Hey there guys, I would like some help from a Launchpad Administrator... | 17:01 |
| kiko | so far so good | 17:03 |
| mahoney | :-/ | 17:03 |
| mahoney | How do I recognize an Admin :-D ? | 17:05 |
| soren | it's much easier for admins to recognize you. Just ask your question. | 17:06 |
| mahoney | ahhhh, thx | 17:06 |
| mahoney | I accidentally deleted my account on Ubuntu Wiki, and now I can't seem to log in to enything but Launchpad. Trying to create a new account doesn't work, I've also tryied changing the name of the wiki on my launchpad account, that won't work as well. How do I get an account on Ubuntu Wiki again? | 17:08 |
| kiko | mahoney, what do you mean by "accidentally deleted your Ubuntu Wiki account"? | 17:09 |
| mahoney | I was trying to change my username (and thus wiki address), from "MahoneyD82" to "mahoney". I thought that by deleting the wiki, but not the launchpad account, I would be able to simply register a new one and link it to my launchpad account. | 17:11 |
| mahoney | But I was wrong :-( . | 17:12 |
| mpt | mahoney, I think the best way to deal with this is to ask for help at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad | 17:14 |
| mahoney | I wasn't sure where to ask for help. I'll try there, thanks guys. | 17:15 |
| mpt | mahoney, you are suffering from bug 6283 | 17:15 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 6283 in launchpad "Disabling the account thru Wiki causes more harm than good. That option should be nuked." [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/6283 - Assigned to Andrew Bennetts (spiv) | 17:15 |
| mahoney | I'll tattoo 6383 on my forehead... | 17:16 |
| mahoney | 6283 | 17:16 |
| kiko | mahoney, did you select the "Disable this account forever" option in the wiki? | 17:18 |
| kiko | if so, I wonder if mthaddon can fix that. | 17:18 |
| mthaddon | not sure I can help with that one, but I can forward it to the sysadmins who can | 17:19 |
| kiko | yeah. | 17:20 |
| mahoney | yup, I selected that option. I'll try registering a second email address with my launchpad account and logging in with that. | 17:20 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #181063 in malone "Two "You might talk to..."-sentences" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181063 | 17:50 |
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| sivang | kiko: ping | 19:13 |
| sivang | kiko: did you get my email ? | 19:13 |
| sivang | howdy all | 19:13 |
| kiko | sivang, yeah, I did | 19:14 |
| kiko | sivang, am catching up with the 200+ over the holidays! | 19:14 |
| kiko | how's it going? | 19:14 |
| thumper | morning | 19:25 |
| kiko | mdz!! | 19:25 |
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| sivang | matsubara: hey dude, what's up? | 19:36 |
| matsubara | hey sivang! how're the portuguese lessons going? | 19:39 |
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| kiko-afk | kiko seu mané | 19:40 |
| matsubara | heh | 19:41 |
| sivang | kiko seu mane, me ensina pourtugese :) | 19:41 |
| sivang | or something like that without all the spelling mistakes | 19:41 |
| sivang | matsubara: flouresta amazonica :) | 19:42 |
| * sivang does the accent for himself | 19:42 | |
| Kmos | sivang: portugues nao costuma ser fácil de aprender. | 19:50 |
| Kmos | :) | 19:50 |
| sivang | Kmos: what does that mean? :) | 19:52 |
| Kmos | sivang: learn portuguese is not always easy to do | 19:53 |
| Kmos | :) | 19:53 |
| mtaylor | leaning portugese is impossible! | 19:53 |
| Kmos | hehe | 19:53 |
| sivang | that's true! | 19:56 |
| sivang | kiko-afk: guess what I'm listening to now | 20:29 |
| bdmurray | Any malone people around? | 20:57 |
| thumper | bdmurray: some | 20:57 |
| bdmurray | I went to this url https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/176435 and it says "Bug 176435 is not in Ubuntu" | 20:57 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 176435 in twill "python-twill missing a dependency" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176435 | 20:57 |
| bdmurray | which seemed odd to me | 20:57 |
| bdmurray | maybe my url construction is wrong though | 20:58 |
| thumper | bdmurray: the bug is in the sourcepackage twill of ubuntu | 21:05 |
| thumper | bdmurray: so yes your url construction is a little wrong | 21:05 |
| thumper | bdmurray: to use the generic bug reference, use what ubotu shows above | 21:05 |
| bdmurray | thumper: okay I think I understand | 21:09 |
| bdmurray | so https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/ would be used for bugs without a package then? | 21:10 |
| thumper | bdmurray: yes, I think so | 21:13 |
| Ubulette | how come i keep receiving every few days ftbfs emails for the same package (that's i've synced 1 month ago) on hppa ? | 21:13 |
| bdmurray | okay, I suspected the person who sent it to me handcrafted the url then | 21:13 |
| geser | Ubulette: does it build on hppa? | 21:16 |
| Ubulette | no: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ruby-gnome2/0.16.0-10/+build/466217 | 21:17 |
| Ubulette | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 21:17 |
| Ubulette | libcairo-ruby: Depends: libcairo-ruby1.8 but it is not installable | 21:17 |
| geser | Ubulette: there was a massive give-back and some large give-backs due to broken chroots in the last two weeks | 21:19 |
| Ubulette | got that exact same ftbfs about 5 times | 21:19 |
| geser | if the reason for the ftbfs isn't fixed but the package gets retried, you get everytime a mail about it | 21:20 |
| Ubulette | oh, ok | 21:21 |
| geser | Ubulette: if you want that is stops, try to find out why libcairo-ruby1.8 is missing on hppa an how to fix it :) | 21:21 |
| Ubulette | it's "need-building" | 21:23 |
| Ubulette | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libcairo-ruby/1.5.0-1/+build/435640 | 21:23 |
| geser | lamont: ^^^ are the hppa buildds so much loaded that it didn't build a package queued 2 months ago? | 21:27 |
| lamont | geser: everything was just given back | 21:27 |
| geser | lamont: so the date listed at "Queued" doesn't contain any useful information? | 21:33 |
| lamont | geser: lots of useful information, just none of it related to why hppa hasn't tried to build it yet... | 21:37 |
| lamont | it's finished off the queue several times now | 21:37 |
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| lifeless | statik: around? | 21:48 |
| statik | lifeless: I am, and lurking on #bzr, and just sent a pm to zeasier | 21:48 |
| statik | :) | 21:48 |
| lifeless | :> | 21:49 |
| lifeless | get my mail a few days ago? | 21:49 |
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