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TheMusoc01:56
TheMusough wrong tab01:57
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lamontslangasek: you want that new util-linux for the next alpah?03:07
lamontalpha, even03:07
lamontslangasek: so... do I grab the new pofiles and make it util-linux_2.13.1~rc2-1, or do I leave them out and make it 2.13-15?03:13
lamonter, s/$/ubuntu1/, of course.03:14
* lamont decides to fess-up in debian/changelog03:20
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ChipzzIceKiller: I would strongly recommend *against* shipping version 2.2.0 of the intel driver; it has some serious issues03:32
ChipzzIceKiller: default acceleration architecture was changed (to EXA iirc) which is causing lots of troubles03:33
ChipzzI would suggest reading up on the xorg mailing list03:33
chirvahey there... i have a stupid question i don't know where to ask... how do i list a directory in C?03:37
Fujitsuchirva: This isn't a support channel.03:39
Chipzzchirva: not the right place; but try man glob03:40
chirvathanks03:41
Chipzzalso, scandir apparently03:41
Chipzzchirva: may I suggest google? the exact terms (C list directory) you used to ask your question turned up a valid result in the first 10 results...03:42
Chipzzalso, opendir/readdir/closedir (first hit on google...)03:43
ChipzzIceKiller: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2007-December/031244.html ; http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2007-December/031128.html03:46
TheMusoc03:47
TheMusough wrong tab03:47
ChipzzTheMuso: again ;)03:47
chirvadidn't try (C list directory)... indeed... the first result seemed good. I eventually found the libc docs on gnu.org03:48
chirvathanks anyway03:48
Chipzzyw :)03:48
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slangaseklamont: totally indifferent for the alpha, I was just reminded by the discussion about Essential packages that I hadn't filed that bug yet04:12
lamontheh. ok04:13
lamontanyway, 2.13.1~rc2-1ubuntu1 just uploaded04:13
lamonthrm... that reminds me... if I want to sync the latest version of a package from sid, to a component where I have upload privs, there should just be a &*%_)V button04:16
lamontespecially when _I_ just signed the changes file in debian.04:17
lifelessAgreed04:18
Fujitsulamont: But it's LP, what do you expect? Though there is a spec for doing that, IIRC...04:20
StevenKlamont: Make puppy dog eyes at slangasek? :-)04:21
ScottK2lamont: Look in pitti's directory on people.ubuntu.com.  There's a script for that.04:22
* Fujitsu chastises ScottK2.04:22
ScottK2The script is publically available and findable via Google.  Using it can't be too horribly wrong.04:22
lamontScottK: there's a script for requesting the sync...04:24
FujitsuSoyuz specs seem very bouncy at the moment. I'm sure private-ppas was targetted at 1.2.5 last week..04:24
lamontthere was a time when we just did build1 uploads... but then they fixed the syncer04:24
* lamont only uses his superpowers for good, you see.04:25
Fujitsulamont: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+spec/sync-workflows04:25
StevenKFujitsu: private-ppa is targetted at 1.2.104:27
FujitsuStevenK: That was my point.04:30
FujitsuStevenK: It got promoted by 4 months.04:30
FujitsuAnd it was 1.2.2 or so before it went to 1.2.5.04:30
StevenKFujitsu: Ah, I see your point.04:32
ScottK2lamont: There's also a script for mangling your locally generated .changes file to look just like the upload was synced.04:38
ScottK2Which I would never ever use unless pitti told me it was OK.04:38
lamontScottK: except that the resultant changes file is signed by you, instead of the autosyncer04:39
ScottK2True.04:39
lamontand manually munging changes files is bad.04:39
ScottK2Which is why there's a script.04:39
lamontand I almost never do it much04:39
lamontI'll let my packages age at least until the dinstall run tomorrow, and request the syncs tomorrow night after work04:42
lamontspeaking of which, bed time,  I think04:42
FujitsuNight lamont.04:43
ScottK2Good night lamont04:43
* lamont is switching to virtual -0400 - makes things work better.04:43
ScottK2Fujitsu: Have you had a chance to look into perl-modules any more?04:44
FujitsuScottK2: Ergh, forgot about that, sorry. Was working.04:48
ScottK2No problem.  I'm heading to bed.04:54
ScottK2See you all tomorrow04:54
FujitsuNight.04:56
nxvli need a given-back for bioperl05:10
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dmbwould there be a reason a package wouldn't be built and uploaded to the repositories after being uploaded?06:12
dmbhttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/i/inspircd/ its been like that for a while, does it just take a while, or is there something wrong?06:13
StevenKIf it's in source NEW06:13
dmbStevenK: is was synced from debian manually06:13
StevenKAh, the source is there.06:13
StevenKIt's in binary NEW.06:13
dmbStevenK: is there a place to check that statuses of that stuff?06:14
dmblike in debian?06:14
StevenKdmb: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/inspircd/1.1.15+dfsg-106:15
dmboh06:16
Seframis it possible to install ubuntu without the cd's installer?06:17
dmbSefram: you can manually debootstrap?06:19
Seframdmb: i dont know howto do that, i ask because i always end up in initrd's ash and dont know how to continue from there...06:22
dmbSefram: i think these questions are for #ubuntu06:22
Seframhmm in #ubuntu is noone answering, but thx anyways...06:24
dmbam i the only one who finds debootstrap to be an amazing thing?06:27
pittiGood mornin06:47
pittig06:47
StevenKMorning pitti06:48
StevenKpitti: A few stupid questions, if I may? :-)06:48
pittiStevenK: sure06:56
StevenKpitti: I've uploaded a few repacks to satisify your issues. The tasks are currently set to Incomplete, what should I set them to?06:57
pittiStevenK: just set them back to NEW, I think06:57
dholbachgood morning06:57
StevenKpitti: I suspect this will also let cheese into main, shall I leave it at Triaged?06:59
pittiStevenK: yes, that's fine06:59
StevenKpitti: Cool. Bug commented on, and tasks twiddled.07:01
StevenKpitti: Could I prod you to process bug 180905?07:02
ubotuLaunchpad bug 180905 in webkit "Please sync webkit (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18090507:02
pittiStevenK: synced07:04
StevenKpitti: Thanks!07:04
pittinp07:05
StevenKYay for NBS work.07:05
* pitti yays StevenK for NBS07:05
StevenKThe only thing that pulls in libicu36 is OO.o07:05
StevenKAnd I'm not touching that. :-)07:05
StevenKpitti: Could you glance at moko in source NEW? Does it have a hope of reaching the archive.07:06
* StevenK wonders if pitti has reached the conclusion that he was lying in wait for him.07:06
pittisth. like that :)07:07
pittiStevenK: what's the problem with moko?07:07
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StevenKpitti: I uploaded it today, and I'd like a second pair of eyes on it.07:08
pittiah, ok07:09
* StevenK tries to brutalise gnome-games on lpia.07:15
StevenKMay seb128 forgive me07:15
pittiStevenK: moko's package description could be a bit more verbose (what is moko, etc.)07:24
pittiStevenK: out of curiosity, what is 'gaston'?07:24
StevenKpitti: gaston is Moblin's release name.07:25
pittiah07:25
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StevenKpitti: Is the description grounds for being rejected?07:25
pittiStevenK: no, it's not a reject reason07:26
pittijust mentioning it07:26
StevenKI'll look at writing a better one.07:26
pittiStevenK: moko looks fine to me, accepted07:27
StevenKYay!07:27
* StevenK hugs pitti 07:27
StevenKpitti: I've added a note about the description to my todo list, I'll fix it soonish07:28
StevenKAwww. gnome-games blows up.07:28
StevenKsol-window.o: In function `aisleriot_window_init':07:28
StevenK/build/steven/gnome-games-2.21.4/aisleriot/window.c:2336: undefined reference to `launchpad_integration_set_sourcepackagename'07:28
StevenK/build/steven/gnome-games-2.21.4/aisleriot/window.c:2337: undefined reference to `launchpad_integration_add_ui'07:28
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dholbachpitti: what do you think about bug 111791?07:50
ubotuLaunchpad bug 111791 in langpack-locales "Wrong mon_decimal_point for locales/pt_PT" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/11179107:50
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StevenKpitti: Could you be convinced to let inspircd out of binary NEW?07:59
dholbachhey lloydinho_ :)08:08
lloydinho_good morning, dholbach :-)08:09
dholbachpitti (or some other archive admin): can you please sync gnome-specimen? (no ubuntu changes, new upstream version in debian)08:31
pittiStevenK: NEWed08:39
pittidholbach: sounds sensible08:40
pittidholbach: synced08:40
seb128hey pitti08:40
pittiMonsieur Bacher! *hug*08:41
StevenKpitti: Thanks08:41
* seb128 hugs pitti08:41
* StevenK waits to see if he has brutalised gnome-games enough08:42
seb128StevenK: what about it?08:46
StevenKseb128: Trying to get it to build the hildonised aisleriot on lpia08:46
seb128ah ok08:46
StevenKseb128: I'll clear the patch with you first.08:47
StevenKJust trying to get it to build.08:47
seb128ok08:47
* Fujitsu verberises StevenK.08:47
seb128the upstream hildon code is buggy?08:47
StevenKNah, it's more updating the 01_lpi and 99_reautoconf patches to also add launchpad-integration to the platform hildon bits, and a few lines in debian/rules.08:48
StevenKFujitsu: Quiet you08:49
seb128ok08:50
StevenKWay cool. scrollkeeper is in the Build-Depends, but ./configure is run with --disable-scrollkeeper08:50
StevenKseb128: ^ :-)08:51
seb128StevenK: either the Build-Depends is not required or the configure is buggy and look for it anyway08:52
kmap_labUbuntu devels, I was just wondering how to request an automagic sync of my Debian package in Lenny to Hardy...08:52
StevenKseb128: I don't think the Build-Depends is required.08:53
seb128StevenK: ok08:53
kmap_labIt should have happened already, but didn't happen this time. I did read up, but am a bit new... so help is appreciated. The source package is libitpp on Debian Lenny08:53
StevenKseb128: Based on my reading of the build log, it installs scrollkeeper, and then it isn't mentioned.08:54
kmap_labStevenK: Hey! You touched libitpp last on Hardy. Could you please help?08:54
StevenKkmap_lab: Hum?08:55
kmap_labStevenK: Please look at the changelog for libitpp on Hardy. That's you in the last entry, right?08:55
StevenKseb128: I can get it to build, but dh_install fails. I daresay because the only game that is hildonised is ailseriot08:55
StevenKkmap_lab: What about it?08:56
kmap_labStevenK: I was requesting an update to the new version in Lenny. Is that possible?08:56
kmap_labStevenK: I mean Lenny version -> bring it to Hardy08:57
StevenKkmap_lab: Can you justify why the update is needed?08:58
kmap_labStevenK: Er, actually, it's not for me. But upstream just wanted to know if the version in Debian can appear in Ubuntu as well due to changes and feature additions.08:59
seb128there is wiki page about sync requests08:59
kmap_labseb128: Ah, I see.08:59
StevenKseb128: Can I get you to look at what I've done, and tell me if I'm on crack, or if there's a better way?09:02
seb128StevenK: sure, but not right now, I'm just back from holidays and trying to catch up with lot of things09:03
kmap_labseb128: There's LP135942, but it doesn't seem to be happening...09:07
kmap_labseb128: Oops. LP13549209:08
Chipzzkmap_lab: launchpad #13549209:09
ubotuLaunchpad bug 135492 in libitpp "Update to latest version in Ubuntu" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/13549209:09
kmap_labChipzz: I am aware, but it isn't happening. Should I wait for more time?09:10
Chipzzkmap_lab: if you mention bugs that way ubotu will give a short summary ;)09:10
kmap_labChipzz: Oh, I see. Thanks! :-)09:10
kmap_lablaunchpad #13549209:10
kmap_labEr, that didn't work?09:10
Chipzzkmap_lab: which may be handy for people not immediately aware of what the bug is about09:11
kmap_labubotu: launchpad #13549209:11
ubotuLaunchpad bug 135492 in libitpp "Update to latest version in Ubuntu" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/13549209:11
Chipzzkmap_lab: not immediately for me either, I guess ubotu is lagging a bit09:11
kmap_labChipzz: Appreciated. Thanks.09:11
Chipzznow, let's stop playing around with the bot :P09:11
kmap_labI notice that there are Ubuntu specific changes to that package, which could be why the sync has stopped. But I have merged the changes back into Debian, so I guess auto-sync can start again?09:12
seb128kmap_lab: the bug is closed09:13
kmap_labseb128: I know! But autosync is not happening, which is what I wanted to know about.09:13
seb128kmap_lab: archive-admins don't look at closed bug, if you want a new version sync you need to open a new bug09:13
kmap_labseb128: Oh, I see. Thanks. Is there a provision of reopening that bug?09:14
seb128kmap_lab: autosyncs have been stopped in december, look at the hardy schedule09:14
kmap_labseb128: Oh, OK. I'll have a look09:14
kmap_labseb128: Oh, that answers my query. Thanks.09:15
kmap_labseb128: DebianImportFreeze, I guess...09:15
seb128you are welcome09:15
seb128kmap_lab: right09:15
kmap_labPerfect. :-)09:15
dholbachpitti: thanks a lot09:27
dholbachhey thekorn!!! happy new year!09:27
dholbachthekorn: it's time that bdmurray merges your patches :)))09:28
geserHi dholbach09:28
dholbachhey geser :)09:28
dholbachgood to see you all again!09:28
ograhey dholbach, happy new year ...09:41
dholbachheya ogra - all the best to you!09:42
ogra:)09:42
dholbachogra: can you take a look at bug 177126?09:53
ubotuLaunchpad bug 177126 in xscreensaver "please merge xscreensaver 5.04-2 from Debian unstable main" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17712609:53
TheMusoc09:54
TheMusowrong tab09:55
ogradholbach, yep, btw, i'm not maintaining gnome-screensaver and g-p-m anymore, thats ted now09:58
dholbachogra: OK, it's just that this is a request for review which I subscribe canonical-distro team members (that can upload) too on a round-robin basis10:00
dholbachs/too/to10:00
ograno, xss is fine, i havent found a successor here yet ... just gpm and gss10:01
dholbachstill Ted cannot upload yet :)10:01
ograoh, crap, indeed :)10:01
dholbachogra: also bug 177631 please10:41
ubotuLaunchpad bug 177631 in gnome-power-manager "Please merge gnome-power-manager 2.20.2-1 (main) from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17763110:41
seb128dholbach: check with ted that he's not working on the 2.21 update10:45
dholbachogra: ^ are you in touch with ted about that?10:47
ogradholbach, sory, was onteh phone ... no, i'm not since he made the last merge ...11:00
ograbut i'll ping him and ask if he needs an upload bitch :)11:00
dholbachogra: can you liaise between the guy who did the merge and ted so no work gets dropped? thanks a lot :)11:00
hairulfrHey all, was wondering if the dual names icons for desktop / trashcan will be changed in upcoming release? They are called both user- and gnome-fs so in reality you need two sets of icons.11:44
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seb128hairulfr: what icons name are you speaking about exactly?11:46
seb128hairulfr: it's likely that user- is the new naming and applications not using it should be updated11:46
hairulfrseb128: Yeah, probably, I remember messing about with it, but just renaming to user-fsXXXX.png didn't work, so needed two sets, as far as I remember11:47
hairulfrIncidentally, where do I find the default icons?11:48
seb128what do you call default icons?11:48
hairulfrI'm talking about thrashcan and desktop icon11:48
hairulfr'trash11:48
seb128look to the human icon theme and gnome icon theme11:48
seb128hairulfr: nautilus uses user-trash and user-trash-full apparently11:52
seb128hey Hobbsee11:52
Hobbseeheya seb128111:52
* Hobbsee wonders where her special keys have gone again11:52
FujitsuHobbsee: I haven't lost mine for a couple of days.11:53
hairulfrseb128: Ahh! Yeah, that's the one :)11:53
Hobbseeright.  have keys back now11:56
HobbseeFujitsu: have you searched for a bug on that yet btw?11:56
FujitsuHobbsee: I've little idea where to look.11:56
HobbseeFujitsu: this is where you rely on LP search being accruage11:58
Hobbseeer, accurate11:58
Fujitsuaccruage. Nice one.11:58
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HobbseeShockwave Flash 9.0 r3112:04
Hobbseehmm.  wonder just how date that is.12:04
ograhmm, did anythng in sed's handling of special chars change ? my sed commands that use \t in them all produce a t instead of a tab12:40
persiaogra: Seems -e is more required than it once was, but I don't know why.12:41
ograhmm, i couldnt find anything in the changelog, starnge12:41
ogra*strange12:41
persia\d also stopped working for some reason, causing at least one get-orig-source failure.12:42
HobbseeFujitsu: i don't see a bug13:07
tkamppeterI have found a big problem: I cannot se my time zone with time-admin, I have it reported as bug 18101513:56
ubotuLaunchpad bug 181015 in gnome-system-tools "time-admin gives always "The configuration could not be loaded", even if started as root" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18101513:56
tkamppeterI am in the "admin" group and even with a root console ("sudo -s") I cannot run time-admin.13:57
seb128tkamppeter: no need of sudo in hardy, the system tools are using policykit13:58
tkamppeterseb128, and how do I get it working then?13:59
seb128tkamppeter: you wait until the bug is fixed or write a patch for it13:59
tkamppeterseb128, so policykit is not yet implemented for time-admin?14:01
seb128it is, you can click on "unlock", but there is a bug somewhere which makes it not work as expected14:01
seb128I've no details yet, I'm just back from holidays and didn't look into that yet14:01
tkamppeterseb128, where can I click on "unlock"?14:02
pittitkamppeter: there's a button in time-admin14:02
tkamppeterseb128, there I cannot get yet.14:02
seb128is your system uptodate?14:03
seb128looks like you have an another bug than the one I was thinking aobut14:03
seb128maybe a dbus issue14:03
tkamppeterseb128, so how can I set my time zone (and also do this "unlock") via config file editing and daemon restarting?14:03
tkamppeterseb128, I updated 3-4 hours ago.14:04
seb128you can try to restart the system-tools-backends14:05
seb128otherwise I don't know, that looks like a bug and require debugging but I'm busy without other things at the moment14:06
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seb128tkamppeter: also don't confirm your own bugs, that defeat the purpose of the status14:07
seb128the point is to have somebody else confirming the issue14:07
seb128not to have the submitter confirming he has the bug14:07
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thekornhi dholbach, happy new year, all the best for 2008!14:09
* dholbach hugs thekorn14:10
geserthekorn: are you the master of python-launchpad-bugs?14:17
geserI'm working on a version of requestsync which uses python-launchpad-bugs to file the bug. It there a common place where to look for the authentication cookie?14:18
pittigeser: I think .mozilla/*/*/cookies.txt is a good first approximation14:19
pittigeser: you have to actually search if there are multiple, of course14:20
pittigrep -l launchpad.net .mozilla/*/*/cookies.txt14:21
pittimaybe14:21
geserhmm, that might work as p-lp-bugs wants a file14:22
thekorngeser, sorry, was away, but pitti is right, just do something like: Bug.authentication=<path to current mozilla cookie-file>14:32
dholbachgeser:      curl -b ~/.lpcookie -c ~/.lpcookie -d loginpage_email=XXX password=XXX https://launchpad.net/+login         would work too14:44
gicmoseb128: dude14:45
gicmoALTER14:45
seb128gicmo: alter!14:45
seb128gicmo: happy new year ;-)14:45
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geserdholbach: I've used now pitti's suggestion and used some code from his buildd.py script to find the cookie. I'll give it some more testing and attach it to bug #147994 to get some more testing before I include it in the ubuntu-dev-tools package. Currently it14:52
ubotuLaunchpad bug 147994 in ubuntu-dev-tools "requestsync should have a command line switch to use python-launchpad-bugs (instead of mailing)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14799414:52
geserit's a separate script14:52
dholbachgeser: ok great14:53
dholbachI never found out if pylpbugs worked for konqueror cookies14:53
Kmosi've enabled pkgstriptranslations in pbuilder and when I start a build it give me this error14:55
Kmosups14:55
Kmos[14:27] <Kmos> grep: debian/control: No such file or directory14:55
Kmos[14:27] <Kmos> /usr/bin/pkgstriptranslations: Error: not in source package directory14:55
Kmos[14:27] <Kmos> EtienneG: pbuilder-satisfydepends failed.14:56
Kmosi'm on gutsy14:56
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tkamppeterseb128, how do I restart the system-tools-backends?15:10
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seb128tkamppeter: restart dbus that will do it15:18
pittiblunt :)15:23
pittiseb128: why do you need to restart it at all? I thought the only long-running daemon was the smal thing that just launches the real apps?15:23
pittis/apps/backend/15:23
tjaaltonpitti: hi, would you have time to look at the openchrome promotion before alpha3? I'm doing merges of xorg and xorg-server (discover is gone!), and would add it to the default set of installed drivers as discussed with bryce15:25
seb128pitti: bug #181015, I've no real idea about the issue but that could be a dbus issue, I'm just curious to know if that's still there after a dbus restart15:26
ubotuLaunchpad bug 181015 in gnome-system-tools "time-admin gives always "The configuration could not be loaded", even if started as root" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18101515:26
pittitjaalton: yes, that should be possible; please just add the dependencies, then the archive checks will remind us15:26
tjaaltonpitti: cool15:26
pittiseb128: hm, no idea; t-a just works here15:26
seb128pitti: works here too15:26
tkamppeterseb128, now I get the main window of time-admin, but with everything except Help, Synchronize Now, and Close grayed out. Especially Unlock is also grayed out.15:28
seb128tkamppeter: looks like a policykit issue16:01
seb128tkamppeter: does "polkit-grant --gain org.freedesktop.systemtoolsbackends.set" work for your user?16:02
tkamppeterDoes not work:16:07
tkamppetertill@till-laptop:~/printing/system-config-printer/trunk$ polkit-grant --gain org.freedesktop.systemtoolsbackends.set16:07
tkamppeterAttempting to gain the privilege for org.freedesktop.systemtoolsbackends.set.16:07
tkamppeter** (process:26987): WARNING **: Error doing GetSessionForUnixProcess on ConsoleKit: org.freedesktop.DBus.GLib.UnmappedError.CkManagerError.Code0: Unable to lookup session information for process '26987'16:07
tkamppeter** (process:26988): WARNING **: Error doing GetSessionForUnixProcess on ConsoleKit: org.freedesktop.DBus.GLib.UnmappedError.CkManagerError.Code0: Unable to lookup session information for process '26987'16:07
tkamppeter** (process:26988): CRITICAL **: polkit_session_get_ck_objref: assertion `session != NULL' failed16:07
tkamppeterpolkit-grant-helper: cannot get session ck objpath16:07
tkamppeterFailed to gain the privilege for org.freedesktop.systemtoolsbackends.set.16:07
tkamppetertill@till-laptop:~/printing/system-config-printer/trunk$16:07
seb128tkamppeter: that's a policykit issue then, maybe pitti has an idea about it16:08
tkamppeterNone of the process numbers mentioned here appears in the "ps auxwww" output.16:08
pittitkamppeter: does ck-list-sessions have a session for you?16:09
tkamppeterpitti. seb128, ck-list-sessions has no output at all for me.16:24
pittitkamppeter: ah, that happens sometimes (bug); restarting your X session will help16:24
pittitkamppeter: if you know how to reproduce this situtation (not getting a ConsoleKit session), that would be great16:25
* ogra sighs about CK as well ... giving me a hard time in ltsp16:30
pittiogra: how did you work around it in gutsy?16:31
ograit didnt restrict e there16:33
ogra*me16:33
ograiirc we didnt even have it in the install16:33
ograbut i need to make ldm somehow set up the session ... which isnt easy since ldm doesnt run on the server16:33
* ogra misses a python binding to make that easier :P16:34
pittiwe did install it by default in gutsy, for f-u-s-a at least16:34
ograldm isnt used to talk to the servers dbus16:35
pittiogra: python bindings? python-dbus :)16:35
tkamppeterpitti,seb128, now after restarting X I could gain the privileges with "polkit-grant --gain org.freedesktop.systemtoolsbackends.set". This step should be automated for users who update to Hardy (for all users in "admin") and also for all new users created with admin privileges. Most users (even advanced ones) will not know about Policy Kit and also nop about this complicated command to gain privileges.16:35
pittitkamppeter: no, it shouldn't be automated, and you shouldn't need to type it in16:35
ograpitti, import consolekit ... consolekit_register()16:35
ogra:P16:35
tkamppeterpitti,seb128, thanks for your help.16:35
pittitkamppeter: that's what the "Unlock" button of the UI does16:36
pittitkamppeter: it was just a testing command to check whether the bug is in PK or the UI16:36
tkamppeterpitti, and that button was grayed out before I gained privileges via the command line.16:36
pittitkamppeter: that would be a UI bug then16:36
ograpitti, actually i'd expect ssh to handle it through pam ... ldm shouldnt be involved at all, if DISPLAY is set in any manner ssh should care ... thats the part that bothers me about all this16:37
tkamppeterpitti, why the Unlock button at all? Can the program not simply do the Unlock action whenever it is started and so everything stays transparent?16:37
pittitkamppeter: it's primarily meant for non-admins to get readonly access16:38
pittiit certainly could do it, of course16:38
pittiof course it is a bit pointless to not unlock if you can unlock without a password16:39
pittithat should indeed be fixed16:39
pittitkamppeter: feel free to file a bug about it16:39
seb128tkamppeter: the button was not activate until you restarted your session rather?16:41
seb128s/activate/active16:41
seb128the command line action was to determine why it was not active, and it was due to the consolekit bug16:42
ograpitti, oh, f-u-s-a had a ltsp specific patch that disabled user switching anyway in gutsy, so we didnt have any CK related issues back then16:44
ograi only have probs since all the admin tools ask CK for permission ... is there any chance that we'll see the CK pam module in main ?16:45
ogralooks like it would solve my probs if integrated with ssh16:45
pittithere is one for VT sessions; I haven't tried it yet, but it uses pam16:46
ogralibpam-ck-connector is in universe it seems16:47
tkamppeterpitti, seb128, the time-admin problem is still not solved. Now I get everything ungrayed by clicking Unlock, but when I chabge the time zone, the change is ignored.16:56
seb128tkamppeter: right, that one is the known issue I was speaking about this morning which is a gnome-system-tools bug and need to be debugged16:57
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tkamppeterseb128, so the gnome tools are still not able to write new configs? So the policy kit stuff only gets read access for now?16:58
seb128no16:58
seb128there is just a bug somewhere16:58
seb128dunno the details before looking at why it's not working16:58
tkamppeterSo I should better edit /etc/timezone for now?16:59
pittitkamppeter: sudo tzselect17:00
ograsudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata17:00
pittithat's better, yes17:01
tkamppeterThank you, now my time zone is corrected.17:05
vlowtherhmmm... anyone else notice that /lib/modules/2.6.24-3-generic/volatile is not being created with the latest kernel upgrade?17:08
* vlowther is back on 2.6.4.24-2 for now.17:09
vlowtherwell, it would help if the linux-restricted-modules package had been pushed at the same time as the rest of the kernel updates. :)17:12
jdongit should?17:13
jdongfor me until they all show up linux-generic gets held back17:13
jdongor maybe I'm losing my mind17:13
infinityIndeed, unless you installed the kernel and LRM "by hand" without the metapackages, that can't happen.17:14
vlowtherthat could be the case -- this install has been upgraded and hacked on since approx. hoary.17:18
vlowtherthat, and I ahve a habit of dist-upgrading during development cycles instead of just upgrading.17:20
jdongwhat's up with Hardy's kernel with respect to cstates?17:20
jdong/proc/acpi no longer shows the active cstate, /sys no longer has the max_cstate parameter...17:20
jdongand the system feels overall sluggish after the upgrade17:20
jdongmacbook core 2 duo17:21
vlowtherno clue there.  Hardy seems to be doing just fine on my Dell Latitude D820. :)17:23
vlowtherheck, even the headphone jack works correctly again, which was not the case in Gutsy.17:24
* vlowther grumbles something about alsa and ad-hackery in the hd audio drivers17:24
vlowtherit looks like the /sys hierarchy got messed around with.  Again. This script should gather the cstate info on your box, tho:17:30
vlowtherfor x in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu?/cpuidle/state?/*; do echo -n "${x}: "; cat ${x}; done17:30
vlowtheron my box, it looks like the procs are spending most of their time in C3 like they should.17:32
jdongvlowther: ah, the structure changed17:32
jdongvlowther: ok, that's good to know then17:32
* vlowther thought /sys was supposed to be vaguely stable...17:33
jdonghaha... linux... stable... hahaha17:38
tkamppeterpitti, new s-c-p, bifff, fixes 4 bugs for Alpha3.17:56
pittislangasek: ah, Debian now builds cyrus-sasl2 against db4.6, too, my patch was accepted17:59
pittisoren: are you planning to merge dpkg today or tomorrow? if not, I'll fix the gcc-4.2 build dep to make it buildable18:01
sorenpitti: Tomorrow.18:02
slangasekpitti: cool18:02
pittisoren: ah; just wondering, because bug 177917 is RC for alpha-318:02
ubotuLaunchpad bug 177917 in dpkg "64bits libs installed on i386 systems" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17791718:02
pittisoren: well, hm, since gcc-4.2 has to build either way, it takes a while, and I have the upload ready, I guess I just upload it18:03
sorenpitti: That would be great.18:03
pittiand takes the pressure off you :)18:04
sorenOh, i didn't even think of that.18:04
soren</sarcasm>18:04
soren:)18:04
* pitti only just now recognizes what he has just done -- becoming TIL for gcc-4.2; ARGH!18:10
sorenMuhaha!18:10
Mithrandirpitti: you win.18:13
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geserslangasek: have you time to review bug #180669? or is this post-alpha3 stuff?18:55
ubotuLaunchpad bug 180669 in fakeroot "[Merge] fakeroot 1.9 from Debian unstable (includes also a fix for the FTBFS)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18066918:55
slangasekgeser: I probably have time for it today18:56
geserok, thanks18:56
hungerIs there a trick to create a gnome user in hardy? After adduser all I get when logging into gnome is a white screen.19:07
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keescookis there a pythonic way to do the same as "dpkg --compare-versions" ?19:32
keescookah         res = apt_pkg.VersionCompare(ver1, ver2)19:33
mdzkeescook: the 'apt' module is a more pythonic API19:36
mdzthough for that particular function I doubt it matters19:36
keescookmdz: okay, good to know.  In my case, I've already got apt_pkg imported, so I'll stick with this19:36
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el_cubanoHow would i go about requesting inclusion of a package from Debian for Hardy?21:00
slangasekel_cubano: a package that's already present in hardy and needs updated, or a new package?21:01
el_cubanoslangasek: new21:01
el_cubanosource package name is tbb21:02
slangasekel_cubano: file a bug against "ubuntu" in launchpad (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu), requesting that it be synced; then subscribe "ubuntu-universe-sponsors"21:03
slangasekel_cubano: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess has more details21:04
el_cubanoslangasek: thanks21:05
slangasektjaalton: so 180806 was actually a bogus sync, the Debian maintainer reverted a key Ubuntu change that put lib32bz2-1.0 in /usr/lib32 instead of in /emul/ia32-linux.21:17
slangasektjaalton: I'll follow it up with a sourceful upload.21:17
tjaaltonslangasek: oh crap21:21
tjaaltonslangasek: sorry for not checking that, and thanks21:24
* slangasek nods21:25
slangasektjaalton: it was infinity's catch, actually; I read the changelog and strolled blindly by21:25
slangasekanyway, fixed package on its way now21:25
tjaaltoncool21:25
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slangaseksoren: please mark sync requests as 'confirmed' when you're acking them and subscribing ubuntu-archive (#180371)22:53
sorenslangasek: Ah, right. Sorry about that. I did feel like I was missing something, but couldn't quite put my finger on it.22:58
slangaseksoren: no worries :)22:58
soren:)22:59
* soren wishes the good people of #ubuntu-devel good night22:59
* slangasek waves22:59
* calc ponders eating dinner since he is hungry but feels like he is going to vomit :-\23:03
ScottKThat's easier with food in your stomache.23:05
calcyea sounds like a plan to me23:06
calcwhats funny was the last time i was sick i was running 102F and didn't even feel sick (probably couldn't think straight) but now i am only running mid 99F and feel really sick23:07
* calc goes to get some food and then lay down :-\23:09
ion_102 coulomb/volt23:11
jdongion_: not those kinds of F ;-)23:14
jdongion_: if so I want him in my trunk next to my amp.23:14
LaserJockdo we need to file sync request bugs for new packages in Debian that are not in Ubuntu?23:58
ScottKSince we're past DIF, yes.23:59

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