[02:16] <justin_> hi is this the doc team
[02:16] <tinman> hello
[02:16] <tinman> lol
[02:16] <tinman> let me dcc this to you
[02:17] <somerville32> dcc what?
[02:17] <somerville32> justin_, Yes, this is the doc team
[02:17] <tinman> /usr/share/gnome/help/musicvideophotos/C/musicvidephotos.xml
[02:17] <tinman> he says he needs that
[02:17] <tinman> trying ot find a way ot send it :'(
[02:18] <tinman> somerville32: ? :x
[02:18] <tinman> i uploaded it to a shell
[02:18] <justin_> ok how do i get it?
[02:18] <justin_> cant it just be email?
[02:18] <tinman> http://tinman.blinkenshell.org/musicvideophotos.xml
[02:19] <tinman> oh ohh
[02:19] <justin_> kk i downloaded it im gonna move it to the directory and see if it works
[02:20] <justin_>  ///usr/share/gnome/help/musicvideophotos/C/musicvideophotos.xml.
[02:20] <tinman> hmm
[02:20] <tinman> i also put it in my ftp server
[02:20] <tinman> which is on my box
[02:20] <tinman> which is private :'(
[02:20] <tinman> and unsecure
[02:21] <justin_> i just tried to put it in that directory only to find out its already there
[02:21] <tinman> lool
[02:21] <tinman> that's a good news
[02:21] <tinman> update you package manager maybe
[02:21] <justin_> if its there y do i get page nto found
[02:22] <tinman> ask in #ubuntu, i am not the guy to answer that
[02:22] <justin_> lol
[02:22] <justin_> and when i open it directly it gives me a parsing error lol
[02:23] <tinman> yeah
[02:23] <tinman> same here
[02:23] <tinman> i dont think that xml file is important
[02:23] <justin_> lol
[02:23] <justin_> i hope not
[02:24] <tinman> any files in /help/ are only for /help
[02:24] <tinman> lol
[02:24] <justin_> lol hey do u know what channel the development team is in
[02:24] <tinman> hmm
[02:25] <tinman> ubuntu-dev maybe/
[02:25] <tinman> but you are better off
[02:25] <tinman> ansking in #ubuntu
[02:25] <justin_> ok thnx
[02:25] <tinman> i dont think #dev people wanna help us new guys, they probably are making new ubuntu or sumthing
[02:25] <tinman> lol
[08:16] <mdke> sommer: I don't think there is a simple way, you simply have to substitute the ghelp link with the html link - the script uses sed for that.
[08:16] <mdke> sommer: but you could try asking one of the gnome docs guys such as shaunm
[08:23] <mdke> sommer: it's possible that the gnome build system has a way of doing it; maybe ask on the mailing list rather than on irc - their channel is quieter than ours
[13:34] <sommer> mdke: ya, the issue is finding where the ghelp link is linking to... heh
[13:34] <sommer> mdke: I'm thinking there's got to be a way to "index" the sect1 with the html path they generate
[13:35] <sommer> mdke: then replace the ghelp with the appropriate html link
[13:35] <sommer> mdke: that's a good idea about the gnome guys, surely someone else has tried this :-)
[15:10] <Legendario> is anyone here from the doc team?
[15:11] <sommer> sure
[15:12] <Legendario> i would like to translate the packaging guide to portuguese...
[15:12] <Legendario> is there a way to do it using the launchpad?
[15:14] <sommer> Legendario: not sure, the packaging guide has been moved to the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide
[15:14] <sommer> Legendario: I'm not sure how that is translated?
[15:14] <Legendario> I know it has been moved.
[15:15] <Legendario> but it is not fully translated
[15:15] <Legendario> i would like to finish it, but i find the launchpad the best way to do it
[15:16] <Legendario> can anyone from the doc team set that?
[15:16] <sommer> Legendario: gotcha... sorry I'm not very familiar with the translation process
[15:16] <sommer> you might try asking on the mailing list
[15:17] <Legendario> do you know anyone that can give me this answer?
[15:17] <Legendario> well.
[15:17] <sommer> mdke may be able to... may be a while for a replay :)
[15:18] <Legendario> thanks anyway
[15:19] <Legendario> do you know if there is many difference between the 6.06 version from the work in progress version
[15:21] <sommer> Legendario: heh... I'm not 100% sure, still pretty new to Ubuntu myself.
[15:21] <sommer> Legendario: you can probably find more details in #ubuntu-motu for that question
[15:21] <Legendario> ok. thanks
[15:21] <Legendario> thanks dude
[15:21] <sommer> I wouldn't think there would be that many differences though :-)
[15:21] <sommer> np
[15:24] <Legendario> help apreciated
[20:56] <ubotu> New bug: #181099 in ubuntu-doc "ntd-simple no longer available as package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181099
[21:07] <astabeno> How do I download/view the docs in launchpad?
[21:09] <sommer> astabeno: this page explains it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Repository
[21:09] <sommer> if you run into problems feel free to ask here
[21:28] <astabeno> I see thanks, guess that will only be done on my Ubuntu machine
[22:17] <mdke> sommer: I think it's fairly clear where the ghelp links link to... what's you're issue with that?
[22:21] <mdke> sommer: in most cases I think it's true to say that a link such as "document#section" should link to document/C/section.html
[22:21] <mdke> there may be some exceptions I suppose
[22:27] <astabeno> I am getting everything downloaded now.
[22:32] <mdke> astabeno: good, welcome aboard
[22:41] <sommer> mdke: that's true I think I was confused about links such as: user-guide#nautilus-cdwriter-data
[22:41] <sommer> then I realized the gnome user-guide is on the website as well... from fix-urls.py
[22:42] <sommer> mdke: I'm still working on a python script to loop through the files, should hopefully have something by the weekend
[22:42] <mdke> well, the principle I tried to set out doesn't work for that link ;)
[22:42] <mdke> there is no file as https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/user-guide/C/nautilus-cdwriter-data.html
[22:43] <mdke> https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/user-guide/C/nautilus-cdwriter.html works though
[22:44] <sommer> mdke: ya... there are only currently 17 of those type of links, so if nothing else they can be hard coded or something
[22:44] <mdke> because the section linked to is quite a low level one, it doesn't get its own page
[22:44] <mdke> yeah. to do it automatically, the script would have to check what level section is linked to, and amend the link to point at the higher level section
[22:44] <mdke> tricky :)
[22:45] <sommer> mdke: I don't think that would be too hard once you know which file to link to
[22:46] <sommer> but to do that you'd have to parse all the xml files
[22:46] <sommer> then make some kind of index between sect and html file names
[22:46] <sommer> at least that's been my train of thought
[22:48] <mdke> it's a bit heavy for something like this
[22:49] <mdke> see if the gnome guys have any better ideas, although I have the feeling they don't
[22:51] <sommer> yep it definitely feels heavy... but once the "index" (I was thinking of sqlite) was created it could potentially be used for other things
[22:52] <sommer> mdke: thanks for the input, I sent an email to gnome-doc list earlier today as well :)
[22:59] <mdke> sommer: ok. thanks for the work on that. I'll see you late