=== tritium_ is now known as tritium [00:58] I'm running the Mythbuntu LiveCD. I need to boot into safe graphics mode (because I'm only hooked up via TV out) and I need to use the noapic kernel option. Anyone know how to do both? [00:58] By pressing F6 I can edit the boot options and add noapic. [00:58] By selecting "safe graphics mode" from Mythbuntu boot menu, I can boot into X with safe graphics mode. [00:58] But, I don't know how to do both. [01:00] Is there a kernel option to tell the kernel to boot into safe graphics mode? [01:02] levander: not sure - try #ubuntu, it'll be the same [01:02] I'm trying it, but those guys never know anything. [01:03] heh [01:03] I've never need both :( [01:03] needed* [01:03] I've never had help in there either [01:04] there was some way to display boot options and modify the line by hand, might be able to try that [01:05] could boot into console/recovery then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf then change to vesa? [01:05] AIUI safe graphics mode = vesa [01:05] live cd though [01:06] that way you could run noapic [01:06] hope that helps! [01:06] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions [01:06] the other option would be to install ubuntu using the alternate cd, then convert to mythbuntu [01:06] I just found out if you hit F6, you can use the up and down arrows to highlight a boot option from the menu. Whichever boot option is highlighted, the kernel options are displayed on the screen. [01:07] of course! sily me [01:07] It looks like the safe graphics mode menu item was using the cevesa boot option to boot into safe graphics mode. I'm waiting now to see if it worked. [01:07] doh.. /me didn't know cevesa existed! [01:08] beats manually editing xorg.conf [01:08] It worked! [01:08] anyway, nn [01:08] yah [01:08] I never heard of cevesa either. [01:08] No, the question is, since I have to pass some funky noapic kernel option to get this brand new motherboard to boot, do I live with it, or return the thing? [01:09] hmm.. i had a mobo that needed it for livecd - but worked once installed.. [01:09] worth a try [01:10] anyway, need sleep - ttfn [01:44] Is there any easy way I can check to see if my sound card is working from within the LiveCD? I haven't installed myth yet. [03:11] i wonder why this distro hasn't including the patch to make the kworld 110 and 115 remote work... [03:20] I have a question hope someone can answer me when scanning signal/noise should we get something more than 0? [03:20] i do on my kworld 115 card... [03:24] i can never get signal/noise other than 0 but i get the signal strenght part ok [03:33] morphios2, what card are you using? [03:36] nexus-s [04:11] hi [04:11] for some reaosn, my frontend/backend that i just built .... can't find the backend [04:19] anyone here? [04:42] hey [04:47] hi === MythbuntuGuest06 is now known as Xenocide [05:15] hey guys i can't get my frontend to see my backend [05:15] it connects to database fine [05:15] but thats about it [05:16] any ideas? [05:17] superm1? [05:36] got it, no permissions on /var/lib/mythtv [06:28] hello? [06:37] ok what dvb card works well with mythtv ...i think nexus has its problems [06:43] morphios2, dvb cards in general with linux right now arent great.. [06:56] hello? [08:45] hey [12:41] hi is lirc_serial working out of the box or do I have to compile it (modules) by myself? [15:08] Hi everyone, on my ATI Radeon Xpress 200 video card (onboard), kaffeine plays DVB-S video smoothly (almost perfect), but mythtv is quite choppy, as if it werent using XV. How can I check if Myth is using XV and correct that if not? [15:09] I'm using mythbuntu 7.10 === slestak is now known as slestak|away === slestak|away is now known as slestak [17:05] ok now i've found out that xine plays the video well, i'll try to use that as the video play command from myth [17:06] I use xine for mythvideo [17:06] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MythVideo [17:06] info there about setting it up [17:08] i just put "xine -f %s" in the setup/setup/mediasettings/videosettings/playersettings field and it works much better already [17:11] hm but still not as nice as in kaffeine... i wish i could see the parameters that kaffeine uses [17:15] i still get only abaout 10-15fps [17:21] and mythfrontend is only using 40$ cpu [17:21] 40% [17:27] whats the easiest way to sort and rename and weed-out the 50 channels i want, out of the 1000 that were detected? [17:44] you could try something like xvmc ic you use nvidia to cut down that cpu [17:45] 1000 channels seams like a lot, why so many? [17:46] in mythtv-setup you can modify the channels I believe [17:48] i'm not worried about cutting down the CPU, quite the opposite, i want it to use another 40% and give me better framerates... unfortunately not using nvidia (yet) so no xvmc... but like i said, kaffeine runs BEAUTIFULLY doing the exact same thing, all i need to do is make myth do it the same way :-) [17:49] on the Astra 19.2E satellite, there are almost 1000 channels [17:50] so the 20-30 i'm interested in are scattered in channel numbers between 5 and 60000 (dont ask me why... the mythtv scan doesnt work so i had to scan using dvb-apps and then import the channels.conf into myth) [17:55] ubuntu net install has a mythtv option, but errors with Jan 7 15:57:59 in-target: Couldn't find task mythbuntu-desktop [17:56] I am guessing there is a package, but it isn't spelled like that? [17:56] AHA finally found something (i kinda expected) in the console: "videooutputXV: could not find suitable xvidoe surface, falling back to shared memory" [18:01] that was using mplayer [18:01] mythbuntu-desktop - The Mythbuntu standalone system [18:01] did you apt-get update? [18:01] what is mythbuntu-meta ? https://code.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythbuntu/mythbuntu-meta [18:02] rhpot1991: I am in the alternate installer, so no. [18:03] no hits: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=mythbuntu-meta [18:05] why are you looking for that? [18:05] to see if there there is really a mythbuntu-desktop.deb [18:06] http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/metapackages/mythbuntu-desktop [18:06] there is [18:06] believe it or not, to find mythbuntu-desktop, you have to search for mythbuntu-desktop [18:07] or do a SOURCE search for mythbuntu-meta [18:07] http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/source/mythbuntu-meta [18:10] oh, sorry, should have mentioned: ubuntu *hardy* net install... [18:10] -desktop isn't in the hardy repos [18:10] but I somehow didn't find the gutsy one either. [18:10] also, my video preview in the channel browser doenst work, i see the area where it should be in the top right, but instead there is a black area in the top left which is trying (but failing) to display the video [18:11] CarlFK: just do the ubuntu install first, then install mythtv after you have a working system [18:11] then you can update your sources and all [18:11] though I can't promise that there isn't some dependency problem there [18:12] rhpot1991: ill file a bug report. somone can either fix it or remove the option [18:12] its on the gutsy repos, I checked my system when you nentioned it [18:12] right. not in hardy [18:12] its prob more of a discrepancy within apt right now cause hardy isn't stable yet [18:13] while people are working on packages sometimes dependencies break [18:13] ack. it is in hardy. [18:14] if you install the base first then at least you can see why its failing [18:17] logs from the install http://dev.personnelware.com/carl/temp/Jan07/b/log - syslog has: in-target: Couldn't find task mythbuntu-desktop [18:17] ill do a nomall install [18:17] should I do desktop or just server? [18:17] is this a mythbuntu cd or ubuntu? [18:18] that seems like it might be something other than a package problem [18:18] it normally says "package blah depends on package x so package blah cannot be installed" [18:18] net, so just the kernel and initrd.gz - the rest gets pulled from the repos [18:18] does this in my Xorg.0.log already mean I can use XV and XVMC ? [18:18] (II) Loading extension XVideo [18:18] (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation [18:19] xvinfo says "no adaptors present" [18:19] xvmc is only on nvidia [18:19] great, so those lines mean nothing... aparently XV isnt working either :( [18:20] xv is broken on ati [18:20] in general [18:20] most things are [18:20] ya I switched to nvidia when xv was 2/3 too large on my ati card [18:20] 18 month old (then) bug that still wasn't fixed [18:21] there were work arounds, but it required eating cpu and junk [18:23] Im doing just server. I can add u-desktop on top of that if I need to [18:33] hi i try to install mythbuntu on my system conected to a tv using a ati radeon 9000 (composite out) - after booting (no problems here) I get a message that my system is running in low graphics mode - I confirm and after that nothing happens. black screen, white cursor blinking in top left [18:33] any ideas? [18:35] when booting, pass a vga= parameter [18:35] look that up in google to see some possible params [18:35] Ethan: I'll try. thanks [18:36] i'm no expert but thats what i'd try first... i think i had to do something similar [18:40] hm. doesn't work :( [18:41] aha, after installing the prop.ATI driver instead of the Ubuntu drivers, I have an XV capable display [18:41] fallen: how far do you get when booting? [18:42] Ethan: X-Server is starting and I get the message "running in low graphic option" I can configure my screen and test it -> works, after I press okay i get a black screen with the blinking cursor [18:43] hmmm [18:43] sorry no great idea just offhand [18:43] no problem, thanks for your help [18:44] sigh, with the ATI driver the myth menus are all messed up... [18:49] safe grafic's work [18:50] how much space should I use for / with frontend and backend? (i want a separate data partition [lvm]) [18:51] Ethan: messed up how? [18:52] mom [18:59] hm after a few re-runs i guess it's cleared up... i had "random theme" enabled so it kept doing "prescaling images" every time... not a good idea when debugging :) [19:04] wow okay now xv is working, even the scrolling text on NTV looks ok [19:07] hm but now (since i rebooted) for some reason, sasc-ng isnt working anymore, it was running perfectly [19:10] rhpot1991: "mythbuntu-desktop: Depends: mythbuntu-control-centre but it is not going to be installed" [19:11] want me to file a bug? [19:12] dunno, not really up to me, I don't do anything with the packages [19:12] what happens if you try to install MCC first? [19:13] does it not exist or does it have a dependency issue? [19:13] also why are you using hardy? [19:13] ah okay it was just a keychange... i guess it was only by accident that it stopped working at the same time [19:13] rhpot1991: hardy - just testing things, like the installer [19:14] mythbuntu-control-centre: Depends: mythbuntu-common but it is not installable [19:14] E: Broken packages [19:14] E: Package mythbuntu-common has no installation candidate [19:14] there's no hardy mythbuntu stuff yet [19:15] mythbuntu preparedness will be stated on http://mythbuntu.org/ as and when [19:15] directhex so don't bother reporting this? [19:15] it's not going to be news for anyone involved [19:17] how can i change the style of the OSD bar at the bottom? [19:20] thats in the mytytv-setup themes setting i think. [19:21] Hmm.. I dont recall a site with screenshots of all the different themes.. anyone seen one? [19:21] the official wiki? [19:22] lets look.. i dont recall seeing one there.. but i aint been there in a few months [19:22] http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Category:Themes [19:25] There we go. :) I tend to set up the themes i like... then leave them alone. i forget the names of the ones i even use. Looks like its Isthmus, and g.a.n.t [19:26] i know where to change the themes in general, but they all seem to use the same OSD bar at the screen bottom [19:26] i always get the blue trapezoid with the red tab on top [19:27] but the channel name never fits in right, and i'd like something transparent [19:27] Ethan, so change the OSC [19:28] OSD [19:31] okay *searching menu structure for that point* :) [19:34] CarlFK: if you want bleeding edge - use the weekly builds trunk repo [19:35] ahaaaaa finally found it: setup/Setup/Tv settings/Playback/page 5 or so :-) [19:38] I wonder how many pages of settings there are in the setup tool. [19:38] way too many... over 100 (maybe 200) [19:39] one thing I might actually contribute after digging deep enough (only been using myth for 3 days now) is an intuitive menu structure [19:43] i wish the TV stations would correctly label the audio tracks (language)... [19:44] I always watch movies in english where available (but here in germany, the default adio track is alwaays german, and the others are not labelled at all) [19:58] thanks guys, i love this OSD :) [20:00] so... now all i need to do.. is configure remote and sort my channels [20:46] now, if only i could get mythtv's channel scan to work... *sigh* [20:49] I get "Scanning Channel" For all my channel Names. :( [20:49] heh.. [20:49] wonder where to fix that at manually. I only got 60 channels. [20:50] Dr_willis: do you use SD? [20:53] I just use the normal SD tv signal from the cable. Yes.. channels 1-60 [20:53] Wife took the STB [20:53] Plus all i watch is on the Low channels anyway. :) i dont need the stb [20:57] well SD as in Schedules Direct [20:58] OR SD card. :) [20:58] i do use SchedulesDirect. [20:59] I wasent using it for a while.. then tried it again yestarday. some how my channels got out of order with them.. but they fixed that :) [20:59] I just dont have the proper names. or icons for the channels [20:59] Which is a trivial annoyance.. but still annoying [20:59] I had problems where it would randomly not get names for the channels, I fixed it by removing the channels/sources and readding till it worked (don't remember the correct combo) [21:00] icons is another tough area [21:00] Heh.. Yea. I am still usingthe old listing - i havent tried removing them. [21:00] I saw a bunch of shows i wanted to record this week.. so letting the box just record them for now. [21:00] I messed with that for a while, both with trying to grab from the SD listings and with mastericon file [21:01] can't tell you what I ended up doing to get them working, but I have almost all of them so I stopped messing [21:01] got another bug where the video playbackis garbled. :) but aparently thats a ubuntu/nvidia issue i hear. I tend to watch the recordings on a diffrent machine. So its not a big issue either [21:02] next step is to figure out how to auto-reencode the recordings and zap the comercials. [21:02] But i think my days of watching videos at work are over.. :( they are rearanging the whole factory/boss's and so forth. [21:04] I had a script that autoremoved the commercials [21:04] problem was that a lot of times the commercial flags weren't 100% accurate [21:05] Dr_willis: do you watch on a computer at work or something else? [21:05] ipod/psp/etc [21:06] yea - on a laptop.. i may have to go back to watching them on my GP2x it can do xvid 320x240 res. :) [21:06] Brother took my psp. :) [21:07] Been looking at getting a smaller video player. but not seen any i like. [21:07] Plus i watch a lot of anime with subtitles.. so i cant read them on a 2 inch screen [21:10] what about ipod touch/ [21:16] I aint buying *&@&@# from apple. :) [21:16] heh, why not? [21:16] id rather get an Asus EEE for that kindof $$ [21:16] Apple can... well.. i wont go on... [21:16] 100% mark up price for one..... :P [21:22] for a while the imac was good value [21:22] Value and Apple. :) Heh heh. [21:22] I love my ipod [21:23] had an rca lyra before it [21:23] That appletv, or mac mini. would be nice to have.. but i donthave the $$. [21:23] thing was the size of a brick, and swelled up when it charged [21:23] I dont even want/need a mp3 player. - Its just more noise to me. dont get me started on the RIAA either. hehheh. [21:23] I do like my Van's Sirus radio. but the Free Year is almost up on it. [21:24] I was saying the ipod touch cause thats wide screen, subs might be readable on it [21:24] and chapter skipping can simulate commercial skipping (when I ever get it working) [21:24] Yea.. well. the subtitles videos are not tv recordings. [21:24] so no comercials in them. [21:25] Cheapest way to do all this is just get a portable dvd player that can do divx i guess. [21:25] They are getting decent in the cost/value/addons now a days [21:27] just run mythtv on a small laptop [21:27] with your videos in mythvideo [21:27] or even any OS can play them [21:28] might have a problem with the cost though [21:28] Yep. thats why i was looking at the EEE. But its all on hold for now. tilli see what Boss I have at work now. I dont want to get fired for watching videos at work. [21:28] So for now - im recording/archiving my fave shows. Thas why i would like to auto-remove comercials/recncode to somting a bit smaller. [21:29] but no hurry there either.. I got a 300gb hd for $40 - over the weekend . just for recordings [21:29] oh man... now all of a sudden i have this problem mit Xorg using 100% CPU and everything very very slow (hitting arrow down, to go from one menu item to the next, takes 10 seconds (!!!) [21:30] if you just go in and edit the commflags you can check them then tell them to transcode [21:30] isn't much work [21:30] though if you have a lot of shows it may be [21:30] Yea. it gets a bit confusing :) of course I really should set up this on a faster machine. [21:30] gotta track down a howto on it. [21:32] i think i've read about this problem somewhere but now i cant find it [21:33] Ethan: give your ati card a hug [21:34] which theme are you using? switch to iulius and see if it fixes it [21:36] okay i'll try that... i think it may have started when i turned opengl on somwhere deep in the myth setup menu [21:36] man, it'll take me 15 minutes to get there at this rate :-((( [21:37] I'd turn off opengl [21:37] unless you are sure you have support for it [21:37] especially if stuff was working well before you turned it on [21:38] it MIGHT be an opengl problem, if the theme you use has a bugged animated element [21:39] after reading this (http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/293314) i'm pretty sure thats what the problem is, the fading in/out of mnenu text takes like a minute (no shit!) [21:39] my understanding is that opengl just gets you animations going from menu to menu, functionality wise they are all the same [21:40] any way i can turn off opengl manually, without going through the myth menus? [21:42] its in the db somewhere [21:43] i though gl was required for most of the themes? or is it just some features of the themes. [21:43] don't ask me where though [21:43] :0 [21:43] Dr_willis: opengl is off by default [21:43] One of these days i need to learn more MythTV. [21:43] Ethan: might be able to change it in mythweb if you have that setup [21:43] -O ThemePainter=Qt [21:45] directhex that just applies for the current session right? He would still need to go in and disable it for other sessions? [21:45] you mean in http://mythtv/mythweb/settings/settings ? thats where i was just looking, but cant find "theme" or "paint" [21:45] or "gl" for that matter [21:46] aha, i have to select a host, not "global"... now i found it [21:47] the theme is "titivillus" by the way [21:47] Titivillus [21:49] yaaaaaay that was the trick :-) changed the painter to "qt" and hit ctrl-alt-backspace and now my mythmenus are usable again :-D thanks!!! [21:50] now, back to that transponder scan... i think i had just experienced a breakthrough when my girlfreind called... [22:01] why do the theme images need to be prescaled EVERY TIME i start myth??? [22:03] so converting mpeg to h.264....mencoder or ffmpeg...is one better than the other? [22:04] I need to learn todo that better javatexan :) My videos i recoded looked like poo. [22:05] lol....how do you tell them to do a h.264 mpeg file...it wants to do divx or something [22:11] has anyone tried using phpmysql on the mythbackend yet, to edit the channel list? [22:12] with over 1000 channels in the list after a scan, editing within myth or even the mythweb is pretty slow [22:16] i do that a fair bit [22:16] for channel icons, mostly [22:22] coooool apt-get installed phpmyadmin, logged in, table channels.... *happy* [22:23] at least i can bilk delete easier this way [22:29] and make a backup of the channels list :) [22:33] which setting should i use for a mce remote model 1039 [22:33] the bottom is black and the top is silver [22:42] javatexan: h.264 is extremely slow in gutsy [22:42] what are you encoding for your tv screen or some other device? [22:43] so how do i connect to samba on my mythbox in windows? anyone know? [22:43] \\ip\sharename [22:44] provided you have the share setup correctly [22:44] i connect with linux easily [22:44] ip can be substituted for the computer name if windows can resolve it [22:44] rhpot1991: yes for screen [22:44] what would sharename be tho? [22:45] i don't want to lose a whole lot of quality, [22:45] TazgodX, whatever you set your share up as [22:45] got it [22:45] thanks [22:45] also, if you want name resolution, ensure windows and samba are in the same workgroup [22:45] yeah i got that set up [22:46] these are mpeg2 files f [22:46] is there a better way to go...I am only going to watch these in mythtv [22:46] I am really just trying to get some of the hd back [22:48] the h.264 I was using on windows was dropping the sizes pretty far.. [22:49] I think mythtv can transcode to xvid, poke around at that cause you can set up a transcode to happen automagically [22:50] i never got mythtv to transcode to work [22:50] other than that I use ffmpeg to do mpeg4/xvid/h.264 ipod encodes fairly reliably, something like that can be setup to run in a user job automagically too [22:50] strange, I thought transcode worked out of the box [22:51] even from just a folder...I am hoping to transcode the mpeg2 and move it into the mythtv video folder [22:51] I'll look at transcoding on my box, I know I've done lossless mpeg2 [22:51] I gotta run, I'll hop on here later tonight [22:52] well lossless mpeg2 are big files....I would like to move them to mpeg4 or avi to save HD [22:54] avi is a container, not a codec [22:54] put pcm wav and rgb video into an avi container, and you're looking at some fairly chunky file sizes [22:54] divx and XviD are main codecs for avi files [22:55] divx and xvid are mpeg4 part 2 codecs which have some popularity in the pirate video scene [22:55] use them with VBR MP3 and you get decently small [22:56] is that the only use? pirate video scene? is that why there are DivX support being added to DVD players? [22:56] couldn't be because its a good backup codec could it? [22:56] largely [22:59] i personally back up most of my movies in XviD, because it is a nice codec, and mythtv can play them [22:59] part 2 codecs aren't space-efficient compared to part 10, but there's an enormous volume of content available using them. not things people make themselves - imovie uses part 10, windows movie creator uses vc-1 [22:59] so it's not things people make themselves, and it's not stuff they buy (since that's drm'd vc-1) [22:59] so that leaves a pretty small pool of content [23:01] humm , even though I think Im a bit wrong here .... Im trying to find out what kernel module i should compile for lirc , none of the drivers in ./configure seem to be right one ... I have this http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/pinnacle_systems/PCTV_USB_STICK remote . [23:01] flami, the module isn't related to the remote, it's related to the receiver [23:02] yes [23:02] well its easy [23:02] my reciever is the PCTV_USB:STICK [23:02] and i cant find that in the ./configure [23:02] flami, plugged into what? [23:02] USB ^^ [23:03] usb tuner, or usb ir receiver? [23:04] usb tuner ( for dvbt ) [23:04] i2c. [23:06] what you eman with i2c ? :P [23:06] mean........ ^ [23:06] i mean configure lirc to use an i2c receiver [23:08] Do u still have to go thru the whole process of downloading the lirc module for the mce remote that uses the lirc_mceusb2 module? Running the latest mythbuntu with all updates [23:09] <--- debian /hides [23:26] yo [23:38] hey guys is anyone able to help me with a remote wonder II? [23:47] no one? [23:53] r487ff28