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crimsunit isn't.00:00
PsynoKhi0I'm not that much of an expert you know... ermm please hints? :D00:02
crimsuntry it if various pci devices simply don't work.00:06
PsynoKhi0that could be my video card you know? :)00:10
crimsunwith a low probability, but sure.00:10
PsynoKhi0can I get problems by adding those right from the start?00:11
crimsunagain, with a low probability, but sure.00:12
PsynoKhi0*bangs head on nearest wall*00:12
PsynoKhi0goodnight00:39
penoshi00:47
penosgggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggunit00:55
penos?00:55
penosi think there's a difference between 'g..gunit' and 'g..gunit?;00:56
penosggggggggggggggggggg? is like a question waiting for response and gggggggggggggggggg is more of a statement00:57
penosso when i did gggggggggggggggg? it's a question00:57
penos?00:58
penosgggggggggggggggg?01:00
somerville32penos, what are you up to?02:03
Ghostvirushello folks02:59
somerville32heya02:59
Ghostvirusa quick question: i'm running xubuntu 7.04, and i have a kodak c613 digital camera. what software do i need to transfer the images from the camera to my computer?03:00
Ghostvirusdo i need to install f-spot, or is there something lighter?03:00
bundaganwhy is the default monospace font so small, and how to i change it?03:01
bundaganApplications > Settings > User Interface Preferences  - this only allows me to adjust the font size for buttons and menus.03:02
somerville32Ghostvirus, IT should just work03:03
Ghostvirussomerville32: really? that's strange then.03:04
bundaganit works, but it only adjusts my buttons and menu, NOT the default monospace03:04
somerville32I figured most camera mount like a removable drive03:04
Ghostvirusi plug it into the usb port, turn on the camera, and nothing happens.03:05
Ghostvirusi thought it would be like a regular usb drive too, but it doesn't pop up03:05
somerville32pastebin lsusb03:05
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Ghostvirusgah, router troubles too03:07
Ghostvirusi have an external card reader which reads the sd card just fine though03:10
Ghostvirusjust baffled as to why the camera won't show up03:11
somerville32pastebin lsusb03:13
somerville32:P03:13
Ghostviruswhile the camera's plugged in?03:14
Ghostvirussomerville32: http://pastebin.ca/84472103:17
Ghostvirusso, it seems to recognize that it's there03:17
somerville32Ok03:23
somerville32So I read that your camera does work03:23
somerville32You just need to install fspot or gthumb or something03:23
Ghostvirussomerville32: i had a feeling. those pull in all sorts of dependencies, right?03:24
Ghostvirusoh, hm, gthumb doesn't pull in anything i don't already have anyway...03:25
somerville32:)03:27
Ghostvirusexcellent, gthumb recognized the camera03:29
* somerville32 cheers.03:29
Ghostvirusthanks a ton man03:29
Ghostvirusi had a feeling i needed some sort of manager to pull the photos from, but it seemed strange that it wouldn't mount as an external disk03:30
Ghostvirusnext laptop i buy will have a card reader integrated03:30
Ghostvirusthose asus eee notebooks look very nice03:30
somerville32:)03:31
Ghostviruseeexubuntu just makes it more attractive03:33
Ghostvirusalright, thanks for helping me somerville3203:38
somerville32no problem! :)03:38
Ghostvirusbye03:38
Ghostvirus:-)03:38
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xubnikHello!08:18
xubnikHi TheSheep. :)08:19
xubnikNeed help: Audio doesn't work. I can't get any sound. Need a SoundMAX Audio Driver for xubuntu..08:21
xubnikat asus.com I could get a windows-driver, but nothing for linux (I have the ASUS A7V8X-X Mainboard)..08:22
xubnikcan't anyone help..?08:31
xubnik..08:43
nikolamhello to all09:42
nikolami have idea and i want someone`s comment on this:09:58
nikolamCould I run some applications that i want to survive X restart, using xnest?09:59
nikolamOr is there other way to start applications that use X server and have windows, to survive X restart10:00
nikolamAnd to attach-detach them to X server, like it is possible for console applications usig screen?10:00
nikolamI was thinking of Xnest or something10:00
PsynoKhi0Hey, I've done something wrong and my desktop is gone, how do I get it back?11:53
PeckaHapt-get install xubuntu-desktop11:55
PsynoKhi0oh, can't I launch it again like with "xfce4-panel"?11:56
PsynoKhi0I did an xkill but the window I wanted to close was minimized so I clicked on the desktop :(11:57
PsynoKhi0PeckaH?12:01
PeckaHhmm, I don't know the command12:02
PsynoKhi0shouldn't it be the same as the name's process?12:03
PeckaHyes12:03
PsynoKhi0ermm process' name*12:03
PsynoKhi0okc could you please look it up in your system monitor?12:03
PeckaHstartxfce412:04
PsynoKhi0thanks, will try12:04
PsynoKhi0err nope12:05
PeckaHxfce4? xfce4-session?12:06
PeckaHat least startxfce4 works for me12:07
TheSheepxfce4-session needs X running, so you can put it in .xsession for example12:08
TheSheephmm...12:09
TheSheepPsynoKhi0: I think you wanted 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start'12:09
TheSheepyeah, it's -1 degree here, and snow at last12:10
TheSheepsorry12:10
PsynoKhi1PeckaH: startxfce4 restarted my session and I ended up with 2 network icons :)12:14
TheSheepfun12:18
TheSheepyou can delete your sessions from ~/.cache/sessions12:19
PsynoKhi1thanks, will try12:20
PsynoKhi1TheSheep: isn't there a command to restart the desktop though? like with xfce4-panel12:22
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nikolamstart ALT+F2 and run xfdesktop12:25
PsynoKhi0yay! thanks nikolam12:26
PsynoKhi0brb12:27
nikolamls /usr/bin/xf*12:27
nikolam:)12:27
scizzo-moin12:59
PsynoKhi0hi again13:16
PsynoKhi0are there other alternatives to the "noapic nolapic irqpoll pci=routeirq" options in GRUB?13:17
PsynoKhi0if I use them I finally get my USB stick to automount and all, but firefox makes my comp freeze after a few seconds13:18
PsynoKhi0cabled connection through a PCI NIC13:19
PsynoKhi0wired*13:19
PsynoKhi0having noapic nolapic only doesn't help with the USB btw13:19
TheSheepPsynoKhi0: try pci=conf113:44
PsynoKhi0TheSheep: along with all the other options or should I remove some? I have a Socket7 system if that helps any13:47
TheSheepPsynoKhi0: I really don't know, I know it helped on some of mine computers13:50
TheSheepPsynoKhi0: you can try and google for your model...13:51
PsynoKhi0TheSheep: ok thanks13:51
PsynoKhi0TheSheep: I changed 2 PCI related bios settings and now firefox is ok (for now)14:32
PsynoKhi0but my USB still deosn' work as well as I'd hope14:33
TheSheep:(14:34
PsynoKhi0talked too fast :)15:02
neozen-workmeep15:07
iamsthithadudes, is there a howto on getting alsa working on the buntu?15:09
PsynoKhi0what do you mean?15:10
iamsthithaI have no working alsa15:10
iamsthithaI run alsamixer and get errors15:10
iamsthithaalsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device15:10
iamsthithanormally, I would run alsaconf, but I dont seem to have that option15:11
PsynoKhi0is your sound card corretly setup?15:12
iamsthithano15:12
iamsthithahow do I setup my sound card?15:12
PsynoKhi0depends on what card it is15:12
iamsthithaits a soundblaster I believe15:13
PsynoKhi0what model?15:14
iamsthithaLive?15:14
PsynoKhi0let me check, there was a list of soundcards somewhere15:18
PsynoKhi0but that alsa error is weird15:21
PsynoKhi0an you get the mixer plugin on a taskbar?15:24
PsynoKhi0can*15:24
PsynoKhi0iamsthitha: I found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20544915:29
iamsthithathank you15:29
PsynoKhi0np15:34
duncanmhola15:56
duncanmdo you guys know about eeexubuntu?15:57
duncanmi'm having trouble with scim-anthy (japanese input) on my eee15:57
PsynoKhi0sorry I don't know about eexubuntu but it shouldn't be that different from the "regular" one15:58
duncanmhmm, i'm using the language tool to install japanese and chinese support16:16
duncanmand now it's installing OpenOffice for me16:16
PsynoKhi0that's normal16:18
PsynoKhi0language files have a package dependency with OpenOffice Writer16:18
duncanmhmm16:21
duncanmthe packages it's downloading doesn't help me with my japanese input problem16:21
PsynoKhi0maybe not, it's language support for your interface16:22
PsynoKhi0what's exactly your issue?16:22
duncanmkanji conversion is not happening16:23
duncanmi can type the kana characters, but hitting spacebar doesn't pop up the list of kanji candidates16:23
duncanmchinese works just fine, but not japanese16:24
nanbudhhow do i check the chipset of my xubuntu box?16:24
duncanmbrb16:25
PsynoKhi0nanbudh: there might be other ways but I use the hal-device-manager to check my computer's components, if you don't have it get it from Synaptic16:28
* duncanm is back16:29
duncanmdum de dum16:30
* duncanm tries anthy-emacs16:30
nanbudhPsynoKhi0: thanks16:33
PsynoKhi0np16:33
* duncanm tries reinstalling anthy and scim-anthy16:35
duncanmaha16:35
duncanmCan't exec "/tmp/anthy.config.57611": Permission denied at /usr/share/perl/5.8/IPC/Open3.pm line 168.16:35
duncanmopen2: exec of /tmp/anthy.config.57611 configure  failed at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/ConfModule.pm line 5816:35
duncanmanthy failed to preconfigure, with exit status 916:36
jarnosHi, I can not umount usb flash memory.18:13
jarnos..in thunar or otherwise.18:13
jarnosThunar says: An application is preventing the volume from being unmounted. Later: unknown error.18:15
jarnosCommand "ps -A" gives some stange processes that shouldn't be there, I guess, such as gimp <defunct>18:17
jarnosI am pretty sure the fault is in Thunar, as they are gone after I killed it, except there is a couple of gnome-umount processes still there.18:20
TheSheepjarnos: try logging out18:20
TheSheepjarnos: that should kill *and* clean up all your apps18:20
jarnosTheSheep: thanks, I already could umount in Thunar after I restarted it.18:22
jarnosAfter I logged in, there is some apport taking almost all CPU time.18:24
jarnosWhat is apport process?18:25
TheSheep!info apport18:27
ubotuapport: automatically generate crash reports for debugging. In component main, is optional. Version 0.98 (gutsy), package size 141 kB, installed size 456 kB18:27
PsynoKhi0darn that's weird, Synaptic doesn't list any package at authentified anymore18:28
PsynoKhi0as authentified*18:28
TheSheepPsynoKhi0: you must have removed the keys by mistake18:28
TheSheepPsynoKhi0: just do an update, it should fetch the keys again18:28
PsynoKhi0thanks I'll try18:29
PsynoKhi0the keys do show under the software sources though18:29
TheSheepPsynoKhi0: then maybe someone is playing games on you and it's not the real ubuntu repo you're connecting to?18:30
PsynoKhi0nv, apt-get update did the trick :)18:31
PsynoKhi0nvm*18:31
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Arnaud__Bonjour19:12
Arnaud__j'ai un problème, je suis nouveau sous Xubuntu19:12
TheSheep!fr | Arnaud__19:13
ubotuArnaud__: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.19:13
TheSheepArnaud__: you can also try to continue here, but our French might be bad19:13
Arnaud__OK19:14
Arnaud__I try to speak in English, so19:14
Arnaud__I've got a few problems with Xubuntu19:14
Arnaud__I'm a teacher, and in my classroom I've got a PC wirh xubuntu19:15
Arnaud__There's a student account with no privileges.19:15
Arnaud__But, from that account, it's still possible to access administration tasks19:15
Arnaud__why ?19:15
TheSheepArnaud__: you mean the "Administer the system" priviledge is disabled for him in Users and groups?19:17
TheSheepArnaud__: and you can actually run administration programs like the network configuration or that users and groups config?19:17
Arnaud__There are only two boxes19:18
Arnaud__allowed19:18
Arnaud__which are sound19:18
Arnaud__and CD ROM19:18
Arnaud__for the sutidents19:18
TheSheephmm, ok19:18
Arnaud__But they can acess synaptics19:18
TheSheepdoes it ask for their password?19:19
Arnaud__it asks a password19:19
Arnaud__but neither mine nor their works19:19
TheSheepdid you log out after changing the priviledges?19:20
TheSheepthe change takes effect after next login19:20
Arnaud__Maybe it's that19:21
Arnaud__I'll see tomorrow19:21
Arnaud__because at the moment I'm at home19:21
Arnaud__But, is it normal that then even see the administration menus ?19:21
TheSheepArnaud__: if that doesn't help, log in as student and type 'id' at the terminal, this should give you a list of groups the users belongs to19:21
TheSheepArnaud__: yes, the xfce menu is simplier than gnome's and can't hide the admin entries19:22
TheSheepArnaud__: I think19:22
Arnaud__ok19:22
Arnaud__Actually I've set up the student'saccount as automatic19:23
Arnaud__so they don't have to type the password19:23
TheSheepso they don't have to know it :)19:23
TheSheepbut it should be alright after relogging19:23
TheSheepit should be written somewhere that priviledge changes only work after next login19:24
Arnaud__OK19:24
Arnaud__the other problem is :19:24
Arnaud__I'm not able to create icons19:24
Arnaud__on the desktop19:24
TheSheepwhat's the error?19:25
Arnaud__I can't glide them from the menu19:26
Arnaud__like in gnome19:26
TheSheepclick on some existing icons19:26
TheSheepthere should be a 'dekstop' submenu19:26
TheSheepand a 'create launcher' entry19:26
Arnaud__when I click right it just opens the software19:26
TheSheepyou cannot drag and drop from the menu, like in GNOME -- as I said, xfce's menu is very simple19:27
Arnaud__I mean when I click right on a icon inside the scrolling menu19:27
Arnaud__yes19:27
Arnaud__I see the create laucher entry19:27
TheSheepyou can however just copy the launchers for the /usr/share/applications directory19:27
Arnaud__but when inside I can't type anything19:27
sankoyahow much system resource can ubuntu save compared to ubuntu?19:27
Arnaud__When I try to type something inside, it closes itself without asking19:28
TheSheepArnaud__: this is weird19:28
TheSheepsankoya: "resource"?19:29
TheSheepsankoya: what's that?19:29
sankoyaTheSheep: more specifically memory19:29
Arnaud__TheSheep: do you mean I could have some virus or something ?19:29
TheSheepArnaud__: no, I think it's rather some bug19:29
TheSheepArnaud__: do you have internet access at school?19:30
Arnaud__TheSheep: yes19:30
TheSheepArnaud__: it would be easier to find out when you can actually try some things and tell me the results19:30
Arnaud__TheSheep: what time are you on IRC ?19:31
TheSheepArnaud__: it varies, usually from 8:00 to 23:00 CET19:31
TheSheepArnaud__: but there are also others who can help19:31
Arnaud__ok, so I contact again tomorrow if I have some time19:32
Arnaud__TheSheep: thank you very much19:32
TheSheepArnaud__: that would be great, thanks19:32
Arnaud__TheSheep: at the moment I have to leave, but tomorrow if i haven't got some parents to talk or anything I'll be there (I juste have to be able to install X cat on Xubuntu there before)19:33
TheSheepArnaud__: no hurry, we are here every day :)19:33
TheSheepArnaud__: good louck with xubuntu19:34
TheSheepoh, and with the parents too19:34
Arnaud__TheSheep: cool, see you soon, good evenings19:34
PsynoKhi0isn't oss supported out of the box in Xubuntu along with alsa?19:50
TheSheepno, there is an oss emulation layer for alsa19:55
TheSheepother than that they are mutually exclusive, I think19:55
PsynoKhi0ok19:56
evil_techping21:36
scizzo-pong21:37
evil_techanyone have experience with the oem install?21:38
vidda little21:38
evil_techso a user went through the process of putting there user name and password and selecting language21:41
evil_techgot to the login and the username and password they put in doesnt work21:41
evil_technow assuming they arent mistyping or mis-casing what they are typing how would i go about fixing that21:42
evil_techdoes ubuntu have root? or does it just rely on sudo21:43
TheSheepit relies on sudo, but you can start in recovery mode21:43
TheSheepor you can boot from the livecd, chroot into the system  on the disk and change the password21:43
evil_techok ill try recovery mode21:46
evil_techim hoping they are just typing it wrong21:46
DaBeowulfHello, I'd like to have Xubuntu bootable from a USB stick and I found a tutorial to get Ubuntu working like that here: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/ Will I have to change any of the commands for trying it with Xubuntu?21:57
atiredmachineHello, I have a apache2 and MPD installed and everything was working great, but then I think at some point MPD crashed and when I've restarted my computer apache2 no longer works..  I don't even know where to begin troubleshooting this.21:59
atiredmachineand MPD appears to not be working either.  Anybody got any ideas?22:00
TheSheepatiredmachine: try 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start'22:07
atiredmachine * Starting web server apache2                                                  apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName22:12
atiredmachine                                                                         [fail]22:12
marchgoodnight! :)22:12
atiredmachineand doing the same with mpd produces: Starting Music Player Daemon: failed.22:12
atiredmachineTheSheep -- any ideas?22:15
TheSheepatiredmachine: check your /etc/hosts22:16
PatabugenHey, I'm having some trouble installing 7.10 from the desktop CD22:26
Patabugeni boot from the disk, go through the Installer, then it does its thing copying files22:26
Patabugenafter that it just disapears22:26
Patabugenif i reboot it boots back into windows22:27
Patabugenwithout any mention of grub22:27
PatabugenI've tried it twice, but with the same effect22:27
PatabugenI'm on a toshiba sattellite L30, my brother's used the CD on his laptop sucessfully22:28
Patabugenany ideas =/22:28
atiredmachineTheSheep, I figured it out.. actually, figured out is wrong, I solved it though, it was trying to access an access_log. file that didn't exist.  Now I'm curious why it was looking for a file in a directory that doesn't exist and why it started doing that randomly.22:29
evil_techPatabugen: sound like grub wasnt installed to the hard disk22:30
Patabugeni'm just playing with that idea...22:30
Patabugen=]22:30
Patabugeni tried apt-get install grub and it said it's already the latest version22:31
TheSheepPatabugen: there is a screensaver...22:31
Patabugenthere is a screensaver?22:32
Patabugeno_O22:33
TheSheepPatabugen: so maybe it just blanked the screen and you rebooted before it finished?22:33
Patabugenah. nah it didnt blank22:34
sahildoes the oem install on the xubuntu disk setup gnome for other people too?22:35
Patabugeni could see the desktpo the whole time, i was playing gnometris the second22:35
TheSheepsahil: it's not gnome, it's gnome display manager22:35
TheSheepsahil: the message 'starting gnome' is wrong22:36
sahilTheSheep: after i login it def looks like gnome22:36
PatabugenTheSheep: I rebooted by clicking Quit22:36
sahili actually can't even select a xfce session through the gdm22:36
TheSheepsahil: that's weird22:37
TheSheepsahil: you're sure it's the xubuntu cd22:37
TheSheepsahil: ?22:37
sahilTheSheep:I'm pretty sure22:37
sahillet me double check22:37
TheSheepbecause there is not even enough space on the cd to fit both xfce and gnome...22:38
sahilboy do i feel like a fol22:40
sahilfool22:40
sahili pointed the vmware thing to the ubuntu iso- thanks22:40
sahilTheSheep: I think I recall now I tried using the xubuntu image but when i rebooted off the oem install it came with some lts stuff22:42
sahilwe'll see shortly though22:42
renegade420Hello I am running Xubuntu on my Eee PC. I was wondering if the Eeexubuntu package is at all compatible with plain old Xubuntu22:51
TheSheeprenegade420: we don't really know much about eeexubuntu22:55
renegade420TheSheep, oh okay... Im really having problems getting sound to work on here... Is there something I need to apt-get er something?22:56
Laneyrenegade420: I believe it's just Xubuntu with some extra scripts that are run in the installer.22:56
Laneyrenegade420: Does http://wiki.eeeuser.com/ubuntu:eeexubuntu:customization#sound help?22:57
Laneyrenegade420: That worked for me on my eee22:57
renegade420Laney, this will work with just plain old xubuntu?22:57
Laneyrenegade420: Oh, probably not. I thought you were talking about an eee.22:58
renegade420Laney, Yah I was basically wondering if EeeXubuntu stuff would work with my existing Xubuntu.22:59
renegade420Laney, Thought it would solve my sound problem23:00
Laneyrenegade420: eee hardware-specific tweaks won't apply, but other than that everything else should be much the same23:00
renegade420Laney, Ahhh...23:01
Laneyrenegade420: So the sound stuff from the eeewiki probably won't help, sorry. Perhaps somebody in here can if you explain your problem?23:01
renegade420Laney, Funny enough the EeeXubuntu seems to be the popular choice. However my friend was fighting with it trying to get it to install than he finally gave up. So Im kind of questioning why it's so popular.23:03
TheSheepthe Eee itself was heavily marketed23:04
renegade420very true23:05
TheSheepand xfce is a nice desktop environment23:05
TheSheepespecially for a mini-laptop23:05
Laneyrenegade420: It installed fine for me, well except that I couldn't get /home to live on my sdhc card. UUID errors at bootup23:05
LaneyI figure that the card reader gets inited after it tries to mount it23:06
TheSheepLaney: you can use pam_mount and mount /home when you log in23:06
TheSheeprequires some hacking though23:07
renegade420Laney, unfortunately my friend couldnt even get past the install...23:12
LaneyTheSheep: Hmm. I'd rather get the reader to initialise earlier in the boot cycle if possible. Wonder if it can be done.23:12
Laneyrenegade420: Well I used an ide->usb converter and just plugged a cd drive in, then it worked like normal23:12
LaneyDidn't try any of the funky usb key business23:12
TheSheepLaney: another option would be to mount /home in your /etc/rc.local script23:13
LaneyTheSheep: Yeah, that could work.23:15
LaneyI'll try it after my exams :(23:16
Linuxicahi23:44
Linuxicamy thunar is not compiled with HAL support23:45
Linuxicahow can I do that from synaptic manager?23:45
LinuxicaI have no icons of removable devices23:45
LinuxicaI had them before I made de update to gutsy23:46
LinuxicaI have removed pmount because I thougt it may be cause of incompability23:48
Linuxicabut it still doen't works23:48
BlackCowhey, I keep getting this error, " not allowed to access the system configuration" when I try to change my users and groups23:51
LinuxicaBlackCow: with sudo?23:52
BlackCowum, well its through the UI23:53
BlackCowerm yeah sudo I guess, I am the main user23:53
BlackCoweverything was working fine yesterday23:53
Linuxicait asl you for a password?23:53
Linuxicaask23:54
BlackCownope, it used to23:54
BlackCoweverything was working fine until I messed with the users for my FTP23:54
Linuxicasorry, I can't imagine what happens23:55
Linuxicado you have root user?23:55
BlackCowi saw on the fourms that you could run alacarte and put gksu in front of the commands but gksu was already there23:55
Linuxicayou can try sudo passwd root23:56
Linuxicathen you can act as root23:56
Linuxicasorry my English is not very good23:57
lechehi, whats the screenshot shortcut in xfce?23:57
Linuxicanobody can help me with my thunar compilation problem?23:58

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