[00:00] <crimsun> it isn't.
[00:02] <PsynoKhi0> I'm not that much of an expert you know... ermm please hints? :D
[00:06] <crimsun> try it if various pci devices simply don't work.
[00:10] <PsynoKhi0> that could be my video card you know? :)
[00:10] <crimsun> with a low probability, but sure.
[00:11] <PsynoKhi0> can I get problems by adding those right from the start?
[00:12] <crimsun> again, with a low probability, but sure.
[00:12] <PsynoKhi0> *bangs head on nearest wall*
[00:39] <PsynoKhi0> goodnight
[00:47] <penos> hi
[00:55] <penos> gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggunit
[00:55] <penos> ?
[00:56] <penos> i think there's a difference between 'g..gunit' and 'g..gunit?;
[00:57] <penos> ggggggggggggggggggg? is like a question waiting for response and gggggggggggggggggg is more of a statement
[00:57] <penos> so when i did gggggggggggggggg? it's a question
[00:58] <penos> ?
[01:00] <penos> gggggggggggggggg?
[02:03] <somerville32> penos, what are you up to?
[02:59] <Ghostvirus> hello folks
[02:59] <somerville32> heya
[03:00] <Ghostvirus> a quick question: i'm running xubuntu 7.04, and i have a kodak c613 digital camera. what software do i need to transfer the images from the camera to my computer?
[03:00] <Ghostvirus> do i need to install f-spot, or is there something lighter?
[03:01] <bundagan> why is the default monospace font so small, and how to i change it?
[03:02] <bundagan> Applications > Settings > User Interface Preferences  - this only allows me to adjust the font size for buttons and menus.
[03:03] <somerville32> Ghostvirus, IT should just work
[03:04] <Ghostvirus> somerville32: really? that's strange then.
[03:04] <bundagan> it works, but it only adjusts my buttons and menu, NOT the default monospace
[03:04] <somerville32> I figured most camera mount like a removable drive
[03:05] <Ghostvirus> i plug it into the usb port, turn on the camera, and nothing happens.
[03:05] <Ghostvirus> i thought it would be like a regular usb drive too, but it doesn't pop up
[03:05] <somerville32> pastebin lsusb
[03:07] <Ghostvirus> gah, router troubles too
[03:10] <Ghostvirus> i have an external card reader which reads the sd card just fine though
[03:11] <Ghostvirus> just baffled as to why the camera won't show up
[03:13] <somerville32> pastebin lsusb
[03:13] <somerville32> :P
[03:14] <Ghostvirus> while the camera's plugged in?
[03:17] <Ghostvirus> somerville32: http://pastebin.ca/844721
[03:17] <Ghostvirus> so, it seems to recognize that it's there
[03:23] <somerville32> Ok
[03:23] <somerville32> So I read that your camera does work
[03:23] <somerville32> You just need to install fspot or gthumb or something
[03:24] <Ghostvirus> somerville32: i had a feeling. those pull in all sorts of dependencies, right?
[03:25] <Ghostvirus> oh, hm, gthumb doesn't pull in anything i don't already have anyway...
[03:27] <somerville32> :)
[03:29] <Ghostvirus> excellent, gthumb recognized the camera
[03:29]  * somerville32 cheers.
[03:29] <Ghostvirus> thanks a ton man
[03:30] <Ghostvirus> i had a feeling i needed some sort of manager to pull the photos from, but it seemed strange that it wouldn't mount as an external disk
[03:30] <Ghostvirus> next laptop i buy will have a card reader integrated
[03:30] <Ghostvirus> those asus eee notebooks look very nice
[03:31] <somerville32> :)
[03:33] <Ghostvirus> eeexubuntu just makes it more attractive
[03:38] <Ghostvirus> alright, thanks for helping me somerville32
[03:38] <somerville32> no problem! :)
[03:38] <Ghostvirus> bye
[03:38] <Ghostvirus> :-)
[08:18] <xubnik> Hello!
[08:19] <xubnik> Hi TheSheep. :)
[08:21] <xubnik> Need help: Audio doesn't work. I can't get any sound. Need a SoundMAX Audio Driver for xubuntu..
[08:22] <xubnik> at asus.com I could get a windows-driver, but nothing for linux (I have the ASUS A7V8X-X Mainboard)..
[08:31] <xubnik> can't anyone help..?
[08:43] <xubnik> ..
[09:42] <nikolam> hello to all
[09:58] <nikolam> i have idea and i want someone`s comment on this:
[09:59] <nikolam> Could I run some applications that i want to survive X restart, using xnest?
[10:00] <nikolam> Or is there other way to start applications that use X server and have windows, to survive X restart
[10:00] <nikolam> And to attach-detach them to X server, like it is possible for console applications usig screen?
[10:00] <nikolam> I was thinking of Xnest or something
[11:53] <PsynoKhi0> Hey, I've done something wrong and my desktop is gone, how do I get it back?
[11:55] <PeckaH> apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:56] <PsynoKhi0> oh, can't I launch it again like with "xfce4-panel"?
[11:57] <PsynoKhi0> I did an xkill but the window I wanted to close was minimized so I clicked on the desktop :(
[12:01] <PsynoKhi0> PeckaH?
[12:02] <PeckaH> hmm, I don't know the command
[12:03] <PsynoKhi0> shouldn't it be the same as the name's process?
[12:03] <PeckaH> yes
[12:03] <PsynoKhi0> ermm process' name*
[12:03] <PsynoKhi0> okc could you please look it up in your system monitor?
[12:04] <PeckaH> startxfce4
[12:04] <PsynoKhi0> thanks, will try
[12:05] <PsynoKhi0> err nope
[12:06] <PeckaH> xfce4? xfce4-session?
[12:07] <PeckaH> at least startxfce4 works for me
[12:08] <TheSheep> xfce4-session needs X running, so you can put it in .xsession for example
[12:09] <TheSheep> hmm...
[12:09] <TheSheep> PsynoKhi0: I think you wanted 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start'
[12:10] <TheSheep> yeah, it's -1 degree here, and snow at last
[12:10] <TheSheep> sorry
[12:14] <PsynoKhi1> PeckaH: startxfce4 restarted my session and I ended up with 2 network icons :)
[12:18] <TheSheep> fun
[12:19] <TheSheep> you can delete your sessions from ~/.cache/sessions
[12:20] <PsynoKhi1> thanks, will try
[12:22] <PsynoKhi1> TheSheep: isn't there a command to restart the desktop though? like with xfce4-panel
[12:25] <nikolam> start ALT+F2 and run xfdesktop
[12:26] <PsynoKhi0> yay! thanks nikolam
[12:27] <PsynoKhi0> brb
[12:27] <nikolam> ls /usr/bin/xf*
[12:27] <nikolam> :)
[12:59] <scizzo-> moin
[13:16] <PsynoKhi0> hi again
[13:17] <PsynoKhi0> are there other alternatives to the "noapic nolapic irqpoll pci=routeirq" options in GRUB?
[13:18] <PsynoKhi0> if I use them I finally get my USB stick to automount and all, but firefox makes my comp freeze after a few seconds
[13:19] <PsynoKhi0> cabled connection through a PCI NIC
[13:19] <PsynoKhi0> wired*
[13:19] <PsynoKhi0> having noapic nolapic only doesn't help with the USB btw
[13:44] <TheSheep> PsynoKhi0: try pci=conf1
[13:47] <PsynoKhi0> TheSheep: along with all the other options or should I remove some? I have a Socket7 system if that helps any
[13:50] <TheSheep> PsynoKhi0: I really don't know, I know it helped on some of mine computers
[13:51] <TheSheep> PsynoKhi0: you can try and google for your model...
[13:51] <PsynoKhi0> TheSheep: ok thanks
[14:32] <PsynoKhi0> TheSheep: I changed 2 PCI related bios settings and now firefox is ok (for now)
[14:33] <PsynoKhi0> but my USB still deosn' work as well as I'd hope
[14:34] <TheSheep> :(
[15:02] <PsynoKhi0> talked too fast :)
[15:07] <neozen-work> meep
[15:09] <iamsthitha> dudes, is there a howto on getting alsa working on the buntu?
[15:10] <PsynoKhi0> what do you mean?
[15:10] <iamsthitha> I have no working alsa
[15:10] <iamsthitha> I run alsamixer and get errors
[15:10] <iamsthitha> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[15:11] <iamsthitha> normally, I would run alsaconf, but I dont seem to have that option
[15:12] <PsynoKhi0> is your sound card corretly setup?
[15:12] <iamsthitha> no
[15:12] <iamsthitha> how do I setup my sound card?
[15:12] <PsynoKhi0> depends on what card it is
[15:13] <iamsthitha> its a soundblaster I believe
[15:14] <PsynoKhi0> what model?
[15:14] <iamsthitha> Live?
[15:18] <PsynoKhi0> let me check, there was a list of soundcards somewhere
[15:21] <PsynoKhi0> but that alsa error is weird
[15:24] <PsynoKhi0> an you get the mixer plugin on a taskbar?
[15:24] <PsynoKhi0> can*
[15:29] <PsynoKhi0> iamsthitha: I found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[15:29] <iamsthitha> thank you
[15:34] <PsynoKhi0> np
[15:56] <duncanm> hola
[15:57] <duncanm> do you guys know about eeexubuntu?
[15:57] <duncanm> i'm having trouble with scim-anthy (japanese input) on my eee
[15:58] <PsynoKhi0> sorry I don't know about eexubuntu but it shouldn't be that different from the "regular" one
[16:16] <duncanm> hmm, i'm using the language tool to install japanese and chinese support
[16:16] <duncanm> and now it's installing OpenOffice for me
[16:18] <PsynoKhi0> that's normal
[16:18] <PsynoKhi0> language files have a package dependency with OpenOffice Writer
[16:21] <duncanm> hmm
[16:21] <duncanm> the packages it's downloading doesn't help me with my japanese input problem
[16:22] <PsynoKhi0> maybe not, it's language support for your interface
[16:22] <PsynoKhi0> what's exactly your issue?
[16:23] <duncanm> kanji conversion is not happening
[16:23] <duncanm> i can type the kana characters, but hitting spacebar doesn't pop up the list of kanji candidates
[16:24] <duncanm> chinese works just fine, but not japanese
[16:24] <nanbudh> how do i check the chipset of my xubuntu box?
[16:25] <duncanm> brb
[16:28] <PsynoKhi0> nanbudh: there might be other ways but I use the hal-device-manager to check my computer's components, if you don't have it get it from Synaptic
[16:29]  * duncanm is back
[16:30] <duncanm> dum de dum
[16:30]  * duncanm tries anthy-emacs
[16:33] <nanbudh> PsynoKhi0: thanks
[16:33] <PsynoKhi0> np
[16:35]  * duncanm tries reinstalling anthy and scim-anthy
[16:35] <duncanm> aha
[16:35] <duncanm> Can't exec "/tmp/anthy.config.57611": Permission denied at /usr/share/perl/5.8/IPC/Open3.pm line 168.
[16:35] <duncanm> open2: exec of /tmp/anthy.config.57611 configure  failed at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/ConfModule.pm line 58
[16:36] <duncanm> anthy failed to preconfigure, with exit status 9
[18:13] <jarnos> Hi, I can not umount usb flash memory.
[18:13] <jarnos> ..in thunar or otherwise.
[18:15] <jarnos> Thunar says: An application is preventing the volume from being unmounted. Later: unknown error.
[18:17] <jarnos> Command "ps -A" gives some stange processes that shouldn't be there, I guess, such as gimp <defunct>
[18:20] <jarnos> I am pretty sure the fault is in Thunar, as they are gone after I killed it, except there is a couple of gnome-umount processes still there.
[18:20] <TheSheep> jarnos: try logging out
[18:20] <TheSheep> jarnos: that should kill *and* clean up all your apps
[18:22] <jarnos> TheSheep: thanks, I already could umount in Thunar after I restarted it.
[18:24] <jarnos> After I logged in, there is some apport taking almost all CPU time.
[18:25] <jarnos> What is apport process?
[18:27] <TheSheep> !info apport
[18:27] <ubotu> apport: automatically generate crash reports for debugging. In component main, is optional. Version 0.98 (gutsy), package size 141 kB, installed size 456 kB
[18:28] <PsynoKhi0> darn that's weird, Synaptic doesn't list any package at authentified anymore
[18:28] <PsynoKhi0> as authentified*
[18:28] <TheSheep> PsynoKhi0: you must have removed the keys by mistake
[18:28] <TheSheep> PsynoKhi0: just do an update, it should fetch the keys again
[18:29] <PsynoKhi0> thanks I'll try
[18:29] <PsynoKhi0> the keys do show under the software sources though
[18:30] <TheSheep> PsynoKhi0: then maybe someone is playing games on you and it's not the real ubuntu repo you're connecting to?
[18:31] <PsynoKhi0> nv, apt-get update did the trick :)
[18:31] <PsynoKhi0> nvm*
[19:12] <Arnaud__> Bonjour
[19:12] <Arnaud__> j'ai un problème, je suis nouveau sous Xubuntu
[19:13] <TheSheep> !fr | Arnaud__
[19:13] <ubotu> Arnaud__: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[19:13] <TheSheep> Arnaud__: you can also try to continue here, but our French might be bad
[19:14] <Arnaud__> OK
[19:14] <Arnaud__> I try to speak in English, so
[19:14] <Arnaud__> I've got a few problems with Xubuntu
[19:15] <Arnaud__> I'm a teacher, and in my classroom I've got a PC wirh xubuntu
[19:15] <Arnaud__> There's a student account with no privileges.
[19:15] <Arnaud__> But, from that account, it's still possible to access administration tasks
[19:15] <Arnaud__> why ?
[19:17] <TheSheep> Arnaud__: you mean the "Administer the system" priviledge is disabled for him in Users and groups?
[19:17] <TheSheep> Arnaud__: and you can actually run administration programs like the network configuration or that users and groups config?
[19:18] <Arnaud__> There are only two boxes
[19:18] <Arnaud__> allowed
[19:18] <Arnaud__> which are sound
[19:18] <Arnaud__> and CD ROM
[19:18] <Arnaud__> for the sutidents
[19:18] <TheSheep> hmm, ok
[19:18] <Arnaud__> But they can acess synaptics
[19:19] <TheSheep> does it ask for their password?
[19:19] <Arnaud__> it asks a password
[19:19] <Arnaud__> but neither mine nor their works
[19:20] <TheSheep> did you log out after changing the priviledges?
[19:20] <TheSheep> the change takes effect after next login
[19:21] <Arnaud__> Maybe it's that
[19:21] <Arnaud__> I'll see tomorrow
[19:21] <Arnaud__> because at the moment I'm at home
[19:21] <Arnaud__> But, is it normal that then even see the administration menus ?
[19:21] <TheSheep> Arnaud__: if that doesn't help, log in as student and type 'id' at the terminal, this should give you a list of groups the users belongs to
[19:22] <TheSheep> Arnaud__: yes, the xfce menu is simplier than gnome's and can't hide the admin entries
[19:22] <TheSheep> Arnaud__: I think
[19:22] <Arnaud__> ok
[19:23] <Arnaud__> Actually I've set up the student'saccount as automatic
[19:23] <Arnaud__> so they don't have to type the password
[19:23] <TheSheep> so they don't have to know it :)
[19:23] <TheSheep> but it should be alright after relogging
[19:24] <TheSheep> it should be written somewhere that priviledge changes only work after next login
[19:24] <Arnaud__> OK
[19:24] <Arnaud__> the other problem is :
[19:24] <Arnaud__> I'm not able to create icons
[19:24] <Arnaud__> on the desktop
[19:25] <TheSheep> what's the error?
[19:26] <Arnaud__> I can't glide them from the menu
[19:26] <Arnaud__> like in gnome
[19:26] <TheSheep> click on some existing icons
[19:26] <TheSheep> there should be a 'dekstop' submenu
[19:26] <TheSheep> and a 'create launcher' entry
[19:26] <Arnaud__> when I click right it just opens the software
[19:27] <TheSheep> you cannot drag and drop from the menu, like in GNOME -- as I said, xfce's menu is very simple
[19:27] <Arnaud__> I mean when I click right on a icon inside the scrolling menu
[19:27] <Arnaud__> yes
[19:27] <Arnaud__> I see the create laucher entry
[19:27] <TheSheep> you can however just copy the launchers for the /usr/share/applications directory
[19:27] <Arnaud__> but when inside I can't type anything
[19:27] <sankoya> how much system resource can ubuntu save compared to ubuntu?
[19:28] <Arnaud__> When I try to type something inside, it closes itself without asking
[19:28] <TheSheep> Arnaud__: this is weird
[19:29] <TheSheep> sankoya: "resource"?
[19:29] <TheSheep> sankoya: what's that?
[19:29] <sankoya> TheSheep: more specifically memory
[19:29] <Arnaud__> TheSheep: do you mean I could have some virus or something ?
[19:29] <TheSheep> Arnaud__: no, I think it's rather some bug
[19:30] <TheSheep> Arnaud__: do you have internet access at school?
[19:30] <Arnaud__> TheSheep: yes
[19:30] <TheSheep> Arnaud__: it would be easier to find out when you can actually try some things and tell me the results
[19:31] <Arnaud__> TheSheep: what time are you on IRC ?
[19:31] <TheSheep> Arnaud__: it varies, usually from 8:00 to 23:00 CET
[19:31] <TheSheep> Arnaud__: but there are also others who can help
[19:32] <Arnaud__> ok, so I contact again tomorrow if I have some time
[19:32] <Arnaud__> TheSheep: thank you very much
[19:32] <TheSheep> Arnaud__: that would be great, thanks
[19:33] <Arnaud__> TheSheep: at the moment I have to leave, but tomorrow if i haven't got some parents to talk or anything I'll be there (I juste have to be able to install X cat on Xubuntu there before)
[19:33] <TheSheep> Arnaud__: no hurry, we are here every day :)
[19:34] <TheSheep> Arnaud__: good louck with xubuntu
[19:34] <TheSheep> oh, and with the parents too
[19:34] <Arnaud__> TheSheep: cool, see you soon, good evenings
[19:50] <PsynoKhi0> isn't oss supported out of the box in Xubuntu along with alsa?
[19:55] <TheSheep> no, there is an oss emulation layer for alsa
[19:55] <TheSheep> other than that they are mutually exclusive, I think
[19:56] <PsynoKhi0> ok
[21:36] <evil_tech> ping
[21:37] <scizzo-> pong
[21:38] <evil_tech> anyone have experience with the oem install?
[21:38] <vidd> a little
[21:41] <evil_tech> so a user went through the process of putting there user name and password and selecting language
[21:41] <evil_tech> got to the login and the username and password they put in doesnt work
[21:42] <evil_tech> now assuming they arent mistyping or mis-casing what they are typing how would i go about fixing that
[21:43] <evil_tech> does ubuntu have root? or does it just rely on sudo
[21:43] <TheSheep> it relies on sudo, but you can start in recovery mode
[21:43] <TheSheep> or you can boot from the livecd, chroot into the system  on the disk and change the password
[21:46] <evil_tech> ok ill try recovery mode
[21:46] <evil_tech> im hoping they are just typing it wrong
[21:57] <DaBeowulf> Hello, I'd like to have Xubuntu bootable from a USB stick and I found a tutorial to get Ubuntu working like that here: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/ Will I have to change any of the commands for trying it with Xubuntu?
[21:59] <atiredmachine> Hello, I have a apache2 and MPD installed and everything was working great, but then I think at some point MPD crashed and when I've restarted my computer apache2 no longer works..  I don't even know where to begin troubleshooting this.
[22:00] <atiredmachine> and MPD appears to not be working either.  Anybody got any ideas?
[22:07] <TheSheep> atiredmachine: try 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start'
[22:12] <atiredmachine>  * Starting web server apache2                                                  apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[22:12] <atiredmachine>                                                                          [fail]
[22:12] <march> goodnight! :)
[22:12] <atiredmachine> and doing the same with mpd produces: Starting Music Player Daemon: failed.
[22:15] <atiredmachine> TheSheep -- any ideas?
[22:16] <TheSheep> atiredmachine: check your /etc/hosts
[22:26] <Patabugen> Hey, I'm having some trouble installing 7.10 from the desktop CD
[22:26] <Patabugen> i boot from the disk, go through the Installer, then it does its thing copying files
[22:26] <Patabugen> after that it just disapears
[22:27] <Patabugen> if i reboot it boots back into windows
[22:27] <Patabugen> without any mention of grub
[22:27] <Patabugen> I've tried it twice, but with the same effect
[22:28] <Patabugen> I'm on a toshiba sattellite L30, my brother's used the CD on his laptop sucessfully
[22:28] <Patabugen> any ideas =/
[22:29] <atiredmachine> TheSheep, I figured it out.. actually, figured out is wrong, I solved it though, it was trying to access an access_log. file that didn't exist.  Now I'm curious why it was looking for a file in a directory that doesn't exist and why it started doing that randomly.
[22:30] <evil_tech> Patabugen: sound like grub wasnt installed to the hard disk
[22:30] <Patabugen> i'm just playing with that idea...
[22:30] <Patabugen> =]
[22:31] <Patabugen> i tried apt-get install grub and it said it's already the latest version
[22:31] <TheSheep> Patabugen: there is a screensaver...
[22:32] <Patabugen> there is a screensaver?
[22:33] <Patabugen> o_O
[22:33] <TheSheep> Patabugen: so maybe it just blanked the screen and you rebooted before it finished?
[22:34] <Patabugen> ah. nah it didnt blank
[22:35] <sahil> does the oem install on the xubuntu disk setup gnome for other people too?
[22:35] <Patabugen> i could see the desktpo the whole time, i was playing gnometris the second
[22:35] <TheSheep> sahil: it's not gnome, it's gnome display manager
[22:36] <TheSheep> sahil: the message 'starting gnome' is wrong
[22:36] <sahil> TheSheep: after i login it def looks like gnome
[22:36] <Patabugen> TheSheep: I rebooted by clicking Quit
[22:36] <sahil> i actually can't even select a xfce session through the gdm
[22:37] <TheSheep> sahil: that's weird
[22:37] <TheSheep> sahil: you're sure it's the xubuntu cd
[22:37] <TheSheep> sahil: ?
[22:37] <sahil> TheSheep:I'm pretty sure
[22:37] <sahil> let me double check
[22:38] <TheSheep> because there is not even enough space on the cd to fit both xfce and gnome...
[22:40] <sahil> boy do i feel like a fol
[22:40] <sahil> fool
[22:40] <sahil> i pointed the vmware thing to the ubuntu iso- thanks
[22:42] <sahil> TheSheep: I think I recall now I tried using the xubuntu image but when i rebooted off the oem install it came with some lts stuff
[22:42] <sahil> we'll see shortly though
[22:51] <renegade420> Hello I am running Xubuntu on my Eee PC. I was wondering if the Eeexubuntu package is at all compatible with plain old Xubuntu
[22:55] <TheSheep> renegade420: we don't really know much about eeexubuntu
[22:56] <renegade420> TheSheep, oh okay... Im really having problems getting sound to work on here... Is there something I need to apt-get er something?
[22:56] <Laney> renegade420: I believe it's just Xubuntu with some extra scripts that are run in the installer.
[22:57] <Laney> renegade420: Does http://wiki.eeeuser.com/ubuntu:eeexubuntu:customization#sound help?
[22:57] <Laney> renegade420: That worked for me on my eee
[22:57] <renegade420> Laney, this will work with just plain old xubuntu?
[22:58] <Laney> renegade420: Oh, probably not. I thought you were talking about an eee.
[22:59] <renegade420> Laney, Yah I was basically wondering if EeeXubuntu stuff would work with my existing Xubuntu.
[23:00] <renegade420> Laney, Thought it would solve my sound problem
[23:00] <Laney> renegade420: eee hardware-specific tweaks won't apply, but other than that everything else should be much the same
[23:01] <renegade420> Laney, Ahhh...
[23:01] <Laney> renegade420: So the sound stuff from the eeewiki probably won't help, sorry. Perhaps somebody in here can if you explain your problem?
[23:03] <renegade420> Laney, Funny enough the EeeXubuntu seems to be the popular choice. However my friend was fighting with it trying to get it to install than he finally gave up. So Im kind of questioning why it's so popular.
[23:04] <TheSheep> the Eee itself was heavily marketed
[23:05] <renegade420> very true
[23:05] <TheSheep> and xfce is a nice desktop environment
[23:05] <TheSheep> especially for a mini-laptop
[23:05] <Laney> renegade420: It installed fine for me, well except that I couldn't get /home to live on my sdhc card. UUID errors at bootup
[23:06] <Laney> I figure that the card reader gets inited after it tries to mount it
[23:06] <TheSheep> Laney: you can use pam_mount and mount /home when you log in
[23:07] <TheSheep> requires some hacking though
[23:12] <renegade420> Laney, unfortunately my friend couldnt even get past the install...
[23:12] <Laney> TheSheep: Hmm. I'd rather get the reader to initialise earlier in the boot cycle if possible. Wonder if it can be done.
[23:12] <Laney> renegade420: Well I used an ide->usb converter and just plugged a cd drive in, then it worked like normal
[23:12] <Laney> Didn't try any of the funky usb key business
[23:13] <TheSheep> Laney: another option would be to mount /home in your /etc/rc.local script
[23:15] <Laney> TheSheep: Yeah, that could work.
[23:16] <Laney> I'll try it after my exams :(
[23:44] <Linuxica> hi
[23:45] <Linuxica> my thunar is not compiled with HAL support
[23:45] <Linuxica> how can I do that from synaptic manager?
[23:45] <Linuxica> I have no icons of removable devices
[23:46] <Linuxica> I had them before I made de update to gutsy
[23:48] <Linuxica> I have removed pmount because I thougt it may be cause of incompability
[23:48] <Linuxica> but it still doen't works
[23:51] <BlackCow> hey, I keep getting this error, " not allowed to access the system configuration" when I try to change my users and groups
[23:52] <Linuxica> BlackCow: with sudo?
[23:53] <BlackCow> um, well its through the UI
[23:53] <BlackCow> erm yeah sudo I guess, I am the main user
[23:53] <BlackCow> everything was working fine yesterday
[23:53] <Linuxica> it asl you for a password?
[23:54] <Linuxica> ask
[23:54] <BlackCow> nope, it used to
[23:54] <BlackCow> everything was working fine until I messed with the users for my FTP
[23:55] <Linuxica> sorry, I can't imagine what happens
[23:55] <Linuxica> do you have root user?
[23:55] <BlackCow> i saw on the fourms that you could run alacarte and put gksu in front of the commands but gksu was already there
[23:56] <Linuxica> you can try sudo passwd root
[23:56] <Linuxica> then you can act as root
[23:57] <Linuxica> sorry my English is not very good
[23:57] <leche> hi, whats the screenshot shortcut in xfce?
[23:58] <Linuxica> nobody can help me with my thunar compilation problem?