[00:01] <blackflag> can someone recommend a frontend for syslog-ng?
[00:02] <sub[t]rnl> blackflag➜ I like conky
[00:02] <kamesh> Hi all, I am planning to compile some c programs which include gsl libraries. I have installed build-essentials from apt. But I still get an errors like "error: gsl/gsl_rng.h: No such file or directory". I guess I still need to install some more packages so that I could compile my programs in kubuntu. could any one please let me know which one ?
[00:03] <sub[t]rnl> blackflag➜ ksystemlog is another
[00:03] <SheeEttin> kamesh: if you think GSL libs are the problem, make sure you install dev packages
[00:04] <blackflag> ksystemlog?
[00:06] <kamesh> Thanks SheeEttin. I will install de packages now and let you know.
[00:06] <blackflag> I need someting to see also remote hosts
[00:07] <kamesh> SheeEttin@ It worked thankyou very much.. Now I am of to programing :-)
[00:07] <blackflag> thanks, I wwill ahve a look to them
[00:08] <SheeEttin> blackflag: I use ksystemlog myself
[00:09] <sub[t]rnl> kaminix➜ sudo apt-get install libgsl0-dev
[00:09] <sub[t]rnl> ah, nm, SheeEttin answered
[00:12] <blackflag> but can I configure ksystemslog to recieve remote hosts messages?
[00:14] <sub[t]rnl> settings -> configure ksystemlog -> system log -> add whatever logs you like
[00:16] <blackflag> can not find a setting for remote host!?
[00:20] <Schuenemann> I can't play 2 musics at the same time. The second application says the device is busy =/
[00:20] <WinstonSmith> Hi
[00:21] <WinstonSmith> How can I run PHP on Kubuntu?
[00:22] <sub[t]rnl> !info php5
[00:22] <ubotu> php5: server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package). In component main, is optional. Version 5.2.3-1ubuntu6.2 (gutsy), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB
[00:27] <humbolto> Is there a way to fix the pager and taskbar problem KDE has when running compiz?
[00:28] <sub[t]rnl> humbolto➜ http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=49484 maybe
[00:29] <Schuenemann> what do I need to do in order to play 2 audio streams at the same time?
[00:32] <sub[t]rnl> not sure
[00:32] <sub[t]rnl> never saw a problem where someone couldn't
[00:34] <articpenguin3800> since i love kubuntu so much i think i do something that is against my vista license XD
[00:39] <GrahamA> Right... this is probably a really dumb question. I have a UK keyboard.... being from the UK and on the 4 key I have 4, obviously, dollar sign $ and euro sign... how do I press the euro sign?
[00:40] <GrahamA> €
[00:40] <GrahamA> |
[00:40] <GrahamA> Nevermind, found out.
[00:40] <allan__> can someone assist me with burning a movie from the terminal i understand the concept just need assistance since i dont know what im doing wrong
[00:40] <GrahamA> Continue with your daily lives
[00:44] <sub[t]rnl> allan__➜ are you try to encode the movie first? say from .avi to DVD, or are you just trying to burn
[00:45] <allan__> sorry if this is a dumb question but whats the difference
[00:45] <allan__> doesnt the encoding burn it or no
[00:45] <allan__> im just trying to figure out how to burn it
[00:45] <allan__> unless i have to do something before hand
[00:46] <sub[t]rnl> well, .avi or .wmv or whatever codecs you have can be burnt to a dvd, but for a dvd play to recognize it, the file type has to be supported
[00:46] <allan__> ok
[00:46] <sub[t]rnl> they need to be encoded to DVD in order for dvd players to be able to read them and play
[00:46] <allan__> mind helping me with that
[00:46] <sub[t]rnl> sure
[00:46] <sub[t]rnl> your wanting to do this from the command line?
[00:46] <allan__> ok
[00:46] <allan__> yes
[00:47] <allan__> what should i do first
[00:47] <sub[t]rnl> what type of movie do you have
[00:47] <allan__> Spawn (1997) [ENG] [DVDrip].avi
[00:47]  * sub[t]rnl nods
[00:47] <allan__> thats the whole movie
[00:47] <allan__> how it looks
[00:47] <allan__> like in file type
[00:48] <sub[t]rnl> couple different ways we can encode the movie, we can use mencoder or ffmpeg
[00:48] <articpenguin3800> what better strigi or kerry
[00:48] <sub[t]rnl> !best
[00:48] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[00:48] <allan__> either or
[00:48] <allan__> ffmpeg
[00:48] <allan__> i heard encoder is better cause alot of people use it
[00:48] <allan__> but i have more experience with ffmpeg
[00:48] <allan__> what do you think would be best?
[00:49] <sub[t]rnl> i like ffmpeg
[00:49] <allan__> ok
[00:49] <sub[t]rnl> ok, setup a directory to place the encoded file
[00:49] <sub[t]rnl> mkdir ~/iso
[00:49] <sub[t]rnl> or something
[00:49] <allan__> ok
[00:49] <biovore> mpegpes is whats used in most digital transmissions (HD TV, DVD's etc)
[00:49] <allan__> would i do this in my home directory
[00:50] <sub[t]rnl> how much room do you have in your home dir?
[00:50] <sub[t]rnl> you'll need a bit for it to encode
[00:50] <allan__> 20GB or so
[00:50] <sub[t]rnl> plenty
[00:50] <allan__> i have enough though
[00:50] <sub[t]rnl> ffmpeg -i move.avi -target ntsc-dvd /iso/movie.mpg
[00:50] <sub[t]rnl> for the encoding
[00:52] <sub[t]rnl> running?
[00:52] <allan__> hold on
[00:52] <allan__> ffmpeg -i Spawn\ \(1997\)\ \[ENG\]\ \[DVDrip\].avi -target ntsc-dvd
[00:52] <allan__> thats what i got so far
[00:52] <allan__> whats after that
[00:52] <allan__> ntsc-dvd?
[00:53] <sub[t]rnl> thats the format
[00:53] <sub[t]rnl> pal or ntsc, you want ntsc
[00:53] <allan__> yeah
[00:53] <allan__> do i have to type anything after that though?
[00:53] <sub[t]rnl> you need to specify the output file in that command
[00:53] <sub[t]rnl> ffmpeg -i move.avi -target ntsc-dvd /iso/movie.mpg
[00:54] <allan__> i keep getting unknown format
[00:54] <allan__> should i give you the output?
[00:55] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, !pastbin it if its too big
[00:55] <allan__> ok i put it there and give you the link
[00:56] <allan__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51155/
[00:56] <allan__> thats the link
[00:56] <darkdancer> Hello
[00:57] <darkdancer> I see there are people here, anyone intereted in tackling a problem?
[00:57] <sub[t]rnl> allan__➜ what version of kubuntu are you running
[00:57] <hydrogen> !ask | darkdancer
[00:57] <ubotu> darkdancer: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[00:58] <darkdancer> Ok, will do, one moment.
[00:58] <allan__> 7.10
[00:58] <allan__> feisty fawn
[00:58] <sub[t]rnl> err
[00:58] <allan__> uh oh
[00:59] <allan__> hope that isnt bad
[00:59] <sub[t]rnl> 7.04 or 7.10?
[00:59] <allan__> whats the command to find out
[00:59] <sub[t]rnl> lsb_release -a
[00:59] <allan__> 7.04
[01:00] <sub[t]rnl> i c
[01:00] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install tovid
[01:00] <sub[t]rnl> do that
[01:00] <sub[t]rnl> tovid is a nice script suite that uses ffmpeg/mencoder/dvdauthor all in one
[01:01] <allan__> installing now
[01:01] <allan__> i got could not find package tovid
[01:01] <sub[t]rnl> !info tovid
[01:01] <ubotu> Package tovid does not exist in gutsy
[01:01] <sub[t]rnl> !find tovid
[01:01] <ubotu> Package/file tovid does not exist in gutsy
[01:02] <allan__> what do i do here
[01:02] <allan__> it says im in directory mode
[01:02] <darkdancer> I am not usingf kubuntu my friend is, and he is having this problem...He had the ability to play mp3's until this morning when he did a standard update and it seems to have broken his mp3 playing ability. He can not play an mp3 with any mp3 player, though he can with VLC. When he loads Amarok he gets "Amarok canoot play MP3's INstall MP3 support?"  A yes (or a no for that matter) causes the app to hang. He is Usinf Feisty Kubuntu.
[01:03] <sub[t]rnl> allan__➜ enable the medibuntu repo's
[01:03] <allan__> ok hold on
[01:03] <sub[t]rnl> !medibuntu | allan
[01:03] <ubotu> allan: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[01:04] <allan__> crap im lost
[01:04] <allan__> sorry
[01:04] <sub[t]rnl> !mp3 | darkdancer
[01:04] <ubotu> darkdancer: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:04] <allan__> so enable the repository
[01:04] <sub[t]rnl> got it enabled?
[01:04] <allan__> hold on
[01:05] <allan__> what software section is this in
[01:05] <allan__> third party software
[01:06] <sub[t]rnl> yes, non free
[01:06] <allan__> im trying to do it through adept
[01:06] <allan__> do i have to add anything in
[01:06] <darkdancer> Do you really think that any of that will help with breakage from an update?
[01:07] <allan__> ?
[01:07] <sub[t]rnl> darkdancer➜ sounds like he doesn't have mp3 support installed, so yes
[01:07] <blackflag> !syslog-ng
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about syslog-ng - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:07] <darkdancer> but he did have it installed and he has reinstalled it. no good
[01:07] <sweettooth> im tryin to install a tar.gz file and when i do ./configure i get this error "No package 'imlib2' found" - help plz?
[01:07] <sub[t]rnl> try re-installing mp3 support then
[01:08] <darkdancer> done. No help
[01:08] <darkdancer> He thinks it is the xine libraries, but he can't figure out how ti reinstall those.
[01:08] <subopt> Is there a straighforward way to tell KDE that i want Emacs style keybindings for things like editing fields in forms; entering URLs in firefox; etc?
[01:08] <sub[t]rnl> sweettooth➜ sudo apt-get install build essential libimlib2-dev
[01:09] <sweettooth> thx
[01:09] <sub[t]rnl> sweettooth➜ sudo apt-get install build-essential libimlib2-dev
[01:09] <sub[t]rnl> forgot the "-" in build-essntial
[01:09] <sweettooth> ok
[01:09] <sweettooth> ty
[01:09] <allan__> sub[t]rnl i did !info tovid
[01:09] <allan__> how do enable the repo
[01:09] <allan__> that or i can do it in adept
[01:10] <sub[t]rnl> you need to add "echo deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ fiesty free non-free " to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:10] <sub[t]rnl> then run apt-get update
[01:10] <allan__> ok hold
[01:10] <allan__> on
[01:12] <darkdancer> sub[t]rnl, anyone? any ideas?
[01:13] <allan__> is /etc/apt/source.list a directory
[01:13] <allan__> how do i get into it from terminal
[01:13] <allan__> sorry
[01:13] <sub[t]rnl> darkdancer➜ sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[01:14] <darkdancer> thatnks sub[t]rnl I'll tell him to try that.
[01:14] <sub[t]rnl> allan__➜ not a directory, its a file
[01:14] <allan__> ok
[01:14] <XxXValeteXxX> jhello people
[01:14] <XxXValeteXxX> ;D
[01:14] <allan__> wget perhaps
[01:14] <sub[t]rnl> allan__➜ you'll need to open and edit the file. No
[01:14] <allan__> ok
[01:14] <XxXValeteXxX> so whos gonna move to KDE 4 when it gets released? :P
[01:14] <sub[t]rnl> allan__➜ its on your local filesystem
[01:14] <sub[t]rnl> allan__➜ kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:15] <sub[t]rnl> allan__➜ run that in konsole
[01:15] <darkdancer> sub[t]rnl, here is the response from that command aikanar@arantinnu:~$ sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[01:15] <darkdancer> Password:
[01:15] <darkdancer> Reading package lists... Done
[01:15] <darkdancer> Building dependency tree
[01:15] <darkdancer> Reading state information... Done
[01:15] <allan__> ok
[01:15] <darkdancer> libxine-extracodecs is already the newest version.
[01:15] <allan__> its open
[01:15] <darkdancer> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:15] <darkdancer> aikanar@arantinnu:~$
[01:16] <allan__> now how exactly do i add the line
[01:16] <XxXValeteXxX> btw is there any way I can set a video as my wallpaper? :X
[01:16] <NickPresta> !pastebin | darkdancer
[01:16] <ubotu> darkdancer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:16] <sub[t]rnl> allan__➜ add deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ fiesty free non-free
[01:16] <darkdancer> Ooops sorry.
[01:17] <allan__> it says deb http:// and a link is displayed then it says feisty main retricted
[01:17] <allan__> to i add the line after it says that
[01:17] <allan__> sorry im alittle confused
[01:17] <sub[t]rnl> its ok, add what I put in quotes
[01:17] <sub[t]rnl> "deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ fiesty free non-free"
[01:18] <sub[t]rnl> without the quotes
[01:18] <allan__> ok
[01:18] <darkdancer> sub[t]rnl, here is the pastebin      http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51163/
[01:19] <sub[t]rnl> allan__➜ save and exit
[01:19] <allan__> ok
[01:19] <sub[t]rnl> now, just copy and paste what I type here into konsole
[01:19] <allan__> ok
[01:19] <sub[t]rnl> sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/feisty.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[01:20] <sub[t]rnl> wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update
[01:21] <sub[t]rnl> darkdancer➜ this is in gutsy right?
[01:21] <darkdancer> noooo. Fiesty
[01:22] <sub[t]rnl> darkdancer➜ sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg kubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:22] <sub[t]rnl> see if that does it
[01:23] <darkdancer> Ok, checking
[01:23] <sub[t]rnl> restart amarok afterwards
[01:23] <martin_> hi!
[01:23] <sub[t]rnl> actually, libxine1-ffmpeg is in kubuntu-restricted-extras, so just do the latter package
[01:23] <martin_> just swiching from ubuntu to the K one ;)
[01:24] <sub[t]rnl> !hi martin_
[01:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hi martin_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:24] <martin_> hi subt!
[01:24] <sub[t]rnl> !hi | martin_
[01:24] <ubotu> martin_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[01:24] <sub[t]rnl> heh
[01:24] <allan__> omg
[01:24] <allan__> E: Type 'http://packages.medibuntu.org/echo' is not known on line 59 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:24] <allan__> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[01:24] <allan__> sorry
[01:24] <martin_> sorry if this sounds stupid but I can' find a way to change the logon screen :P
[01:24] <allan__> im screwed up
[01:24] <allan__> i screwed up
[01:25] <darkdancer> sub[t]rnl,  libxine1-ffmpeg is already the newest version.
[01:25] <darkdancer> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:25] <darkdancer> which repo is that in, it doesn't look like he hgas it
[01:26] <sub[t]rnl> darkdancer➜ in multiverse, i guess its gutsy only though
[01:26] <darkdancer> oh....
[01:26] <maxym> !fr
[01:26] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:27] <sub[t]rnl> darkdancer➜ the libxine1-ffmpeg was the package I was worried about anyway, and it looks like you have the fiesty recent
[01:27] <darkdancer> sub[t]rnl, any more ideas?
[01:27] <darkdancer> or anyone?
[01:28] <r3d> l
[01:29] <allan__> what should i do
[01:29] <allan__> ?
[01:29] <sub[t]rnl> allan__➜ pastbin your sources.list file
[01:30] <allan__> ok
[01:31] <allan__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51165/
[01:31] <allan__> thats the link
[01:31] <sub[t]rnl> darkdancer➜ start amarok in konsole and see what it complains about when it tries to install mp3 support
[01:31] <sub[t]rnl> allan__➜ line 58 is wrong
[01:31] <allan__> ok
[01:32] <wesley> how can i enable the use of special grafical themes in kdm theme manager in kubuntu
[01:32] <sub[t]rnl> allan__➜ just delete line 58
[01:32] <allan__> ok
[01:32] <darkdancer> Unfortunately I gotta leave for a bit.........will be back in about 1 hour........
[01:32] <allan__> ok
[01:32] <allan__> its gone
[01:33] <sub[t]rnl> sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/feisty.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[01:33] <sub[t]rnl> do that
[01:34] <sub[t]rnl> just copy and paste it into konsole
[01:34] <wesley> http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2383/schermafdruk2gm1.png  can some one help me enable this
[01:34] <sub[t]rnl> !kdmtheme | wesley
[01:34] <ubotu> wesley: To customize your !KDM theme, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu - However, see http://subtrnl.homelinux.com/kdmtheme.html for working around bug #132723 (http://tinyurl.com/2prhgc)
[01:36] <allan__> ok
[01:36] <allan__> all done
[01:37] <wesley> bleach is populair by linux?
[01:37] <sub[t]rnl> allan__➜ sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/feisty.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[01:37] <sub[t]rnl> done that?
[01:37] <allan__> yes
[01:37] <sub[t]rnl> allan__➜ wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update
[01:39] <allan__> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
[01:39] <allan__> maybe im doing it wrong
[01:39] <allan__> let me try again
[01:40] <allan__> ok
[01:43] <sub[t]rnl> !medibuntu | allan (follow the steps here)
[01:43] <ubotu> allan (follow the steps here): medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[01:43] <sub[t]rnl> then -> sudo apt-get install tovid
[01:45] <Gargoyle76> my restricted drvr for wireless card disabling itself
[01:45] <Gargoyle76> can anyone help?
[01:46] <allan__> ok
[01:46] <allan__> i added everything
[01:46] <allan__> but i keep getting error no package found for tovid
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[01:49] <allan__> ???
[01:49] <Gargoyle76> that was irritating
[01:50] <sub[t]rnl> allan__➜ http://subtrnl.homelinux.com/convert
[01:50] <sub[t]rnl> theres a bash script for converting .avi's to .mpg's
[01:51] <sub[t]rnl> if you get a format error, try taking out the "ntsc-dvd" and running it again
[01:51] <allan__> what do i say this as
[01:51] <sub[t]rnl> save it in your home directory as "convert"
[01:51] <sub[t]rnl> then chmod +x convert
[01:52] <sub[t]rnl> and run it in a directory that has an .avi file
[01:52] <sub[t]rnl> make sure you have dvdauthor and mkisofs installed
[01:52] <allan__> chmod +X convert
[01:52] <allan__> chmod: changing permissions of `convert': Operation not permitted
[01:53] <sub[t]rnl> sudo chmod +x convert
[01:53] <pacman> has anyone ever tinkered with a program called fruityloops?
[01:53] <allan__> ok
[01:53] <allan__> whats after that
[01:53] <Gargoyle76> can anyone help me w/ wireless card?
[01:54] <sub[t]rnl> allan__➜ then sudo chown $(whoami) convert
[01:54] <sub[t]rnl> !ask | Gargoyle76
[01:54] <ubotu> Gargoyle76: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[01:54] <Gargoyle76> tried that
[01:54] <Gargoyle76> no one listening
[01:54] <allan__> sudo chown convert right
[01:55] <sub[t]rnl> sudo chown yourusername convert
[01:55] <Gargoyle76> wireless card disappeared
[01:55] <sub[t]rnl> example, sudo chown allan convert
[01:55] <Gargoyle76> checked lspci and it is still listed
[01:55] <sub[t]rnl> Gargoyle76➜ is it using a restricted driver?
[01:55] <Gargoyle76> but can't enable restricted drvr
[01:55] <allan__> ok
[01:55] <allan__> all done
[01:56] <sub[t]rnl> allan__➜ now put the script in the directory that contains the .avi, and run ./convert
[01:56] <Gargoyle76> i enable -->reboot  --->system comes up but it has it as "not in use"
[01:56] <articpenguin3800> what better strigi or kerry
[01:56] <allan__> how would i write it out
[01:57] <allan__> Spawn (1997) [ENG] [DVDrip].avi
[01:57] <allan__>  ./convert
[01:57] <sub[t]rnl> !better | articpenguin3800
[01:57] <ubotu> articpenguin3800: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[01:57] <pacman> so....nobody's used fruityloops
[01:57] <phoenixz> !aptfix
[01:57] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[01:58] <allan__> ???
[01:59] <sub[t]rnl> allan__➜ put the convert script in the directory of the .avi file
[01:59] <sub[t]rnl> allan__➜ and just run ./convert
[01:59] <sub[t]rnl> allan__➜ thats it
[02:00] <allan__> allan@omega:~/Downloads/iso$ sudo ./convert
[02:00] <allan__> sudo: ./convert: command not found
[02:01] <Gargoyle76> sub?
[02:01] <allan__> was i supposed to put .sh after when i sabed it
[02:01] <allan__> saved it
[02:01] <sub[t]rnl> you need to have the convert file, and the .avi in the same directory.  Then cd into the directory that contains the two. Then run ./convert
[02:02] <allan__> allan@omega:~/Downloads/iso$ ls
[02:02] <allan__> convert  Spawn (1997) [ENG] [DVDrip].avi
[02:02] <allan__> allan@omega:~/Downloads/iso$
[02:02] <allan__> its in tehre
[02:02] <allan__> there
[02:02] <allan__> i dont get why its not workin
[02:02] <sub[t]rnl> Gargoyle76➜ not sure why the driver gets disabled on reboot
[02:02] <jdnewmil> allan_ : may have to "chmod +x convert" ... don't use sudo if you can avoid it
[02:03] <allan__> ok i did chmod +x ./convert
[02:03] <allan__> still command not found
[02:03] <sub[t]rnl> not ./convert
[02:03] <sub[t]rnl> just convert
[02:03] <allan__> ok
[02:04] <jdnewmil> either should work
[02:04] <allan__> ok
[02:04] <sub[t]rnl> now, do ./convert
[02:04] <allan__> here ill paste the output in the pastebin
[02:04] <Gargoyle76> crap
[02:05] <allan__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51166/
[02:05] <allan__> there is the link
[02:06] <sub[t]rnl> try -> ffmpeg -i whatevermove.avi -target movie.mpg
[02:07] <joh6nn> anybody here ever use apt-cacher?
[02:07] <zippercock> anyone know how to enable framebuffer support in Kubuntu? (besides recompiling the kernel)
[02:08] <bldzr> Hi there, since I upgraded from my Nvidia 7600GT to a 8800GTS (512MB/N92), I got hit by the "weird problem"-bat. When I boot kubuntu, my monitor starts switching between analog/digital before it decides to go to standy-mode. I've specified the problem in a post on the ubuntuforums ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=661343 ), but I thought that I'd ask here in #kubuntu as well. I appreciate all the help I can get =)
[02:08] <allan__> unknown format
[02:08] <sub[t]rnl> allan__➜ there are gui apps that do this on the fly.  DeVeDe is one.  sudo apt-get install devede.  If you must encode and burn from the command line, I would just read up on ffmpeg and dvdauthor.  Or google tovid and give it a try
[02:09] <bldzr> As I've written in my post, I've tried all possible setups (DVI/VGA/gfx outputs) and the live dvd, but I can't dodge the problem :\
[02:09] <allan__> ok
[02:12] <Gargoyle76> has anyone run into depmod crashing?
[02:12] <articpenguin3800> when i put 2gigs of ram in tomorrow will kubuntu detect it
[02:13] <Gargoyle76> I keep getting bus error (core dumped)
[02:13] <jughead> Hey I have a quick question here - I have samba mounted shares on my desktop http://tinyurl.com/2gc3cm - link to screenshot - they are given long names so I can't tell them apart.  How can I customize them to just say music, backup, etc?
[02:13] <bldzr> articpenguin3800: It should, yes =)
[02:13] <articpenguin3800> ok
[02:13] <articpenguin3800> XD
[02:13] <bldzr> :)
[02:13] <wesley> i still dont get the bug fixed in kdm theme
[02:14] <wesley> can someone fix this for me
[02:14] <jdnewmil> zippercock : I think that is a kernel option...
[02:15] <articpenguin3800> i doubt there will be a speed increase with 2Gigs of ram though
[02:15] <zippercock> that is what i figured, my problem is that Usplash uses the framebuffer and Usplash worked just fine...
[02:16] <zippercock> so now i disabled Usplash and set my vga mode on the kernel option in grub...
[02:16] <zippercock> and get nothing during boot
[02:16] <bldzr> articpenguin3800: Well, depends on your current setup I guess :)
[02:16] <articpenguin3800> it will help in virtualbox though
[02:17] <jdnewmil> zippercock : I dunno... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[02:17] <ctothej> My gutsy install cds (desktop and alternate) never get past the "Starting system log daemon: syslogd, klogd." stage. It just hands there with a blinking cursor.
[02:18] <ctothej> *hangs
[02:18] <sub[t]rnl> zippercock➜ I have mine working
[02:19] <zippercock> how did you set it up?
[02:20] <sub[t]rnl> kind of a little process to do it
[02:20] <sub[t]rnl> do you have your vga= in menu.lst?
[02:20] <zippercock> yeah and i set all of that
[02:21] <zippercock> and deleted the splash option
[02:21] <sub[t]rnl> set the res in /etc/usplash.conf?
[02:21] <zippercock> i just took usplash out of my kernel line in grub
[02:21] <sub[t]rnl> edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer
[02:22] <sub[t]rnl> # blacklist vesafb
[02:22] <sub[t]rnl>  # blacklist vga16fb
[02:22] <sub[t]rnl> comment those two
[02:23] <sub[t]rnl> edit /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and add vesafb and vga16fb
[02:23] <sub[t]rnl> then sudo update-initramfs -u
[02:23] <sub[t]rnl> and your done
[02:24] <Gargoyle76> has anyone had depmod crash during install of new programs or updates
[02:25] <Minataku> zippercock: I've had that problem.
[02:25] <zippercock> so in making linux more "simple" they added a bunch of annoyance for those who wish to use console and not X...
[02:25] <zippercock> fun ufn
[02:25] <zippercock> fun fun *
[02:25] <Minataku> If the image intended for the GRUB background goes missing, you won't see anything
[02:26] <zippercock> but it is done, and hopefully I will reboot to a delightful console with decent res
[02:26] <sub[t]rnl> zippercock➜ in an attempt for "stability" the kernel team blacklisted framebuffers... so..  yeah.
[02:26] <zippercock> brb
[02:26] <Gargoyle76> anyone?
[02:26] <Minataku> Wait
[02:26] <Gargoyle76> k
[02:26] <Minataku> sub[t]rnl: Are you SERIOUS!?
[02:27] <sub[t]rnl> as a heartattack
[02:27] <Minataku> So the VTs run in pure, pre-Hercules text mode?
[02:27] <Minataku> What the hell kind of bullcrap is that?!
[02:27] <sub[t]rnl> weee
[02:28] <Minataku> Okay, this distribution truly sucks.
[02:28] <Minataku> I knew it before, but now I'm saying it.
[02:28] <Minataku> I have concrete proof of it now.
[02:28] <sub[t]rnl> you in *buntu now?
[02:28] <Minataku> No.
[02:28] <Minataku> I've never used it.
[02:29] <sub[t]rnl> http://subtrnl.homelinux.com/fb
[02:29] <sub[t]rnl> thats the head part of the framebuffer modules file
[02:29] <Minataku> What the hell kind of idiotic lunacy is that?!
[02:29] <Minataku> The only reason the kernel has instabilities is because Debian and Ubuntu blindly patch it with idiotic bullcrap that never works
[02:30] <snarkster> what does that mean
[02:30] <sub[t]rnl> your average user doesn't spend much time in VT's though, and I guess they wanted to aim at a more general audience with it
[02:30] <Minataku> snarkster: Debian/Ubuntu kernels suck
[02:30] <Gargoyle76> has anyone had depmod crash during install of new programs or updates
[02:30] <zippercock> so it still didn't work.
[02:30] <zippercock> which is just as well...
[02:31] <Minataku> zippercock: If you're actually skilled with Linux, may I suggest ANY OTHER DISTRIBUTION.
[02:31] <ardchoille> !guidelines | Minataku
[02:31] <ubotu> Minataku: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:31] <zippercock> I guess I will most likely go back to Slackware
[02:31] <Minataku> zippercock: That or Gentoo.
[02:31] <Minataku> zippercock: Good call, BTW.
[02:31] <sub[t]rnl> its just a comment here, and a module load there to get it back, but yeah, its caused a little headache with the community.
[02:32] <zippercock> well my issue is that I followed exactly what you told me, and therefore it ought to be working.
[02:32] <zippercock> But... it isn't.
[02:32] <Minataku> Not to mention that Debian/Ubuntu packages are also heavily patched to fix "bugs"
[02:32] <zippercock> Other preconfigured things like this have caused me headaches too
[02:32] <Minataku> "Bugs" being "things that don't work in Debian/Ubuntu because they just plain suck"
[02:32] <limac> isn't kubuntu 8.04 an LTS?
[02:32] <ardchoille> limac: no
[02:33] <limac> what?
[02:33] <biovore> hardy is the next LTS..
[02:33] <limac> ubuntu is?
[02:33] <zippercock> Debian/Ubuntu have their place.
[02:33] <biovore> isn't it?
[02:33] <Minataku> So instead of fixing the real problems, the ones that THEY caused, they blame it on the people who wrote the applications and patch those instead.
[02:33] <ardchoille> biovore: Hardy will not be an LTS release
[02:33] <limac> but for ubuntu it is
[02:33] <biovore> ok.. is it the one after hardy?
[02:33] <limac> what is after hardy!
[02:33] <limac> ?
[02:34] <limac> the name? ;P
[02:34] <snarkster> do any of you know why modprobe ndiswrapper doesnt start after I put it in rc.local
[02:34] <zippercock> I really like the polish of the systems, I just hate the modified packages that come with them.
[02:34] <Minataku> Well, they usually go alphabetically now
[02:34] <Minataku> So after Hardy Whatever
[02:34] <Minataku> I'd imagine it'd be Idiotic Ibex
[02:34] <ardchoille> Minataku: Please take those comments to another channel.
[02:34] <Minataku> Or some similar nonsense
[02:34] <zippercock> to be honest the massive apt repos are what drew me in to leaving Slackware
[02:34] <zippercock> which... well... apt is amazing.
[02:35] <Minataku> More thought is put into making up a silly name than there is in making things work.
[02:35] <Minataku> zippercock: Ever try Portage?
[02:35] <Minataku> I think you'd like Gentoo, honestly.
[02:35] <zippercock> I LOATHE PORTAGE!!
[02:35] <Minataku> There's a large package repository
[02:35] <zippercock> portage = a good way to break a system
[02:35] <ardchoille> !ot
[02:35] <snarkster> :)
[02:35] <Minataku> zippercock: Uh... no it's not.
[02:35] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:35] <Minataku> Unless you don't know what you're doing.
[02:35] <Minataku> Or you DO and do something stupid.
[02:36] <zippercock> dude using portage is like adding C flags to a .tgz
[02:36] <zippercock> just don't do it
[02:36] <Minataku> Or don't use insane, idiotic options
[02:36] <zippercock> lol
[02:36] <ardchoille> Please take the ot chatter to another channel. Last warning.
[02:36] <Minataku> The options are all described in the GCC manual page
[02:37] <Minataku> Including the ones that are known to not work and produce bad code
[02:37] <snarkster> I need help can some one please direct me to the location to get information as to why modprobe ndiswrapper doesnt not start automatically after putting it in rc.local
[02:37] <zippercock> well either way, apt/aptitude/wajig are awesome tools (and faster than portage)
[02:37] <zippercock> snarkster: try #linux
[02:37] <Minataku> Kubuntu can compile things too, so there. On-topic justification complete.
[02:38] <zippercock> or rather ##linux
[02:38] <zippercock> Kubuntu can... after "$ sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[02:38] <snarkster> why shoulod i goto #linux when I use kubuntu
[02:39] <zippercock> snarkster: ##linux can generally help with those problems very quickly
[02:39] <maduser> I have a usb hard drive that the compter cannot access
[02:39] <maduser> how can I access it?
[02:39] <Minataku> Sorry, but the whole "ease-of-use" thing is really starting to turn Kubuntu into a bad Windows clone.
[02:39] <snarkster> ok thnak you
[02:39] <Minataku> My apologies for getting out of hand
[02:39] <maduser> only the kernal sees it
[02:39] <limac> !kubuntu8.04
[02:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu8.04 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:39] <Minataku> But I don't want to see a good thing go sour.
[02:40] <Minataku> maduser: K E R N E L
[02:40] <NickPresta> !tell limac about hardy
[02:40] <Minataku> maduser: "KERNAL" was the code in the ROM of older Commodore systems
[02:40] <zippercock> maduser: add /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 vfat noatime 0 0
[02:40] <joh6nn> anybody here ever use apt-cacher?
[02:40] <zippercock> to your /etc/fstab
[02:40] <zippercock> and then mkdir /mnt/sda1
[02:40] <zippercock> and then reboot
[02:40] <maduser> its not fat
[02:41] <Minataku> zippercock: Well, not necessarily
[02:41] <zippercock> well then, sub the filesystem
[02:41] <Minataku> It's all very dependent on his specific setup
[02:41] <Minataku> It may be a different device
[02:41] <maduser> its a format corrupted by a mac
[02:41] <zippercock> true, but
[02:41] <Minataku> Or there may be multiple partitions
[02:41] <zippercock> should work
[02:41] <Minataku> Better would be to not modify critical system files first
[02:41] <Minataku> And instead manually mount it instead
[02:41] <Minataku> maduser: Don't touch fstab yet
[02:42] <zippercock> then again if using kubuntu you would likely just mess up all of your devs if you use an fstab entry
[02:42] <sub[t]rnl> snarkster➜ To run a script or application at boot, first, create a script and place it in /etc/init.d/ Be sure to chmod +x it, sudo update-rc.d scriptname defaults
[02:43] <Minataku> Hm
[02:43] <Minataku> !info disktype
[02:43] <ubotu> disktype: detection of content format of a disk or disk image. In component universe, is optional. Version 9-1 (gutsy), package size 37 kB, installed size 136 kB
[02:43] <Minataku> Ah
[02:43] <Minataku> maduser: If you're not sure what's on that drive, use that utility.
[02:44] <Minataku> Check what the kernel said the drive consists of
[02:44] <Minataku> It'll give you a device name, and if there are partitions, list which ones exist
[02:44] <snarkster> sub[t]rnl: thank you
[02:44] <Minataku> Then you can use "sudo disktype /dev/whatever0x"
[02:46] <Minataku> Though if it's a Mac drive... well who the hell knows what FS it's using
[02:46] <Minataku> It's hard to tell the messes a Mac makes
[02:46] <snarkster> hpfs+
[02:47] <Minataku> Nah, it's either MFS, HFS, HFS+ or UFS/NeXTSTEP
[02:47] <maduser> mabe I will use a windows disk to rewrite the drive
[02:47] <Minataku> Sure, if you don't want any help, go ahead and do that.
[02:48] <Minataku> Sorry
[02:48] <Minataku> Being blown off when I try to help annoys me
[02:48] <Minataku> Anyway
[02:48] <Minataku> My apologies for acting out-of-hand
[02:49] <Minataku> Like I said, I have respect for Kubuntu, but it's starting to go the way of Windows and hide everything possible from the user
[02:49] <maxym> !fr
[02:49] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:56] <marx2k> Does anyone know if Kubuntu will auto-update to KDE4 when it is officially released?
[02:58] <snarkster> ive asked that and the answer I got was probably nit
[02:58] <snarkster> not
[02:58] <marx2k> bummer
[02:58] <ubuntu> can somebody help medo a chkdsk>
[02:58] <ubuntu> ?
[02:58] <marx2k> chkdsk?
[02:58] <ubuntu> yah
[02:59] <ubuntu> or whatever itis
[02:59] <marx2k> what are you checking for?
[02:59] <ubuntu> errors
[02:59] <biovore> fsck?
[02:59] <marx2k> you want fsck
[03:00] <ubuntu> biovore: yeah
[03:00] <ubuntu> bu never mind i have a windows harddrive i want to mount but it wont
[03:01] <marx2k> Whats the error it gives?
[03:03] <marx2k> I just went through mounting an external ntfs drive
[03:05] <marx2k> stupid Fat32 and its' stupid 4G file limit...
[03:05] <nowisn> hi all
[03:06] <ehc> I am getting a permission denied error with thunderbird and OpenPGP keys. What should the ~/.gnupg/ directory have for ownership and editability? like evan:evan 755 for example?
[03:07] <marx2k> try 664 or 666
[03:07] <marx2k> or a+rw
[03:08] <ehc> marx2k, should I the user own the file or just root?
[03:09] <nowisn> ah bit of a problem i downloaded 7.10 and burnt the dvd and inserted it to pc with windows on it, kubuntu loaded fine and then i asked it to install, it prompted me through all the steps for my info and when it got to the partition page it asked me to format 57% of the drive, i assumed it recognized windows and broke my 120gig drive in half so i continued on
[03:10] <nowisn> then when it finished installing i rebooted and i get an eror saying error loading operating system
[03:10] <marx2k> ehc: I imagine it would be you... but I am not sure. Though I think if it's in your directory, you should be owner
[03:10] <nowisn> no windows or linux
[03:11] <marx2k> nowisn: When you're in the grub menu (at boot), type 'b' and make it hd(0,0) and see if that helps
[03:11] <nowisn> should i just start from scratch
[03:11] <marx2k> nah not yet
[03:11] <nowisn> there is no grub menu
[03:11] <marx2k> Its probably on there, but the MBR or menu.lst is incorrect
[03:11] <dbmoodb> eheehe
[03:11] <nowisn> pc just verified dmi pool then gives the error
[03:12] <marx2k> Hmmmm
[03:12] <dbmoodb> when can we expect to see 4.0 ?
[03:12] <dbmoodb> in an ubuntu release - ...
[03:12] <marx2k> dbmoodb: 3 days
[03:12] <dbmoodb> ?
[03:12] <marx2k> oh.. heh
[03:12] <marx2k> dont know
[03:12] <dbmoodb> lol
[03:12] <marx2k> nowisn: you only have 1 drive?
[03:13] <ehc> marx2k, it works if I ran tbird under sudo but not if I change the permissions to 777 and then try as user.
[03:13] <nowisn> even when i try to boot a xp disk it says boot from cd/dvd then the error appears, it won't even boot from a cdrom
[03:13] <dbmoodb> wow
[03:13] <dbmoodb> what happened nowisn ?
[03:13] <marx2k> ehc: did you list the ~/.gnupg directory? What are the permissions on it?
[03:14] <marx2k> nowisn: That sounds more like a computer issue than an OS issue. Have you tried booting from a LiveCD?
[03:14] <matthew> Whoa... ok..
[03:14] <nowisn> I just totally fudged up my system
[03:14] <nowisn> nope going to now
[03:14] <dbmoodb> no
[03:14] <marx2k> well at worst you will need to reinstall
[03:14] <dbmoodb> - dude tis not a nas or other em device :) - so you are fine
[03:15] <marx2k> playing with the MBR is irritating. Luckily Super Grub Rescue Disk was created :)
[03:15] <dbmoodb> unless you wiped your bios
[03:15] <marx2k> hahahah "Kubuntu Installer BIOS WIpe Buf"
[03:15] <marx2k> Bug
[03:15] <ehc> marx2k, 664 isn't enough, 777 is (the owner is user:user)
[03:15] <dbmoodb> - bug
[03:15] <marx2k> ehc: so 777 works?
[03:15] <dbmoodb> no feature
[03:15] <killermach> how do I get the directory tree on dolphin? so far I find dolphin very unusable
[03:16] <ehc> marx2k, yeah
[03:16] <dbmoodb> why was kolphin adopted over konq ?
[03:16] <ehc> marx2k, I just need to find how little permissions it needs
[03:16] <nowisn> me-- can kubuntu wipe a bios
[03:16] <dbmoodb> ah only if you really try nowisn- and i mean really really really try
[03:16] <biovore> it can if you write a program to do it..
[03:17] <dbmoodb> aka flash bios
[03:17] <nowisn> just running a check on that dvd for errors again
[03:17] <ehc> marx2k, 764 works but 760 doesn't?
[03:17] <marx2k> Man, I have to bend over backwards just to update my BIOS. If you find a way to do it FROM Linux, let me kinow :)
[03:18] <marx2k> ehc: I hate octal permissions :D
[03:18] <ehc> marx2k, well it is working now. thanks
[03:18] <marx2k> ehc: good. did you do that recursively?
[03:19] <nowisn> just wondering if this could be caused by hardware issues, this is brand new hardware?
[03:19] <dbmoodb> how new ?
[03:19] <marx2k> nowisn: if the LiveCD booted, you should be fine as far as hardware
[03:19] <marx2k> you might just need to re-write grub to the MBR
[03:19] <hoofharted> !fsck
[03:19] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[03:20] <dbmoodb> not helpful hoof
[03:20] <nowisn> gigabyte X38-DQ6 quad core Q6600 4 gig reaper ram
[03:20] <ehc> marx2k, yup
[03:20] <nowisn> 2 weeks old
[03:21] <nowisn> ATI 3780 vid card
[03:21] <nowisn> sorry 3870
[03:21] <marx2k> nowisn: sorry I may have missed your answer, but do you have one hard drive?
[03:21] <hoofharted> can i fsck a windows harddrive from here
[03:22] <dbmoodb> ?
[03:22] <dbmoodb> if you have fsck for ntfs
[03:22] <dbmoodb> do you have it ..
[03:22] <marx2k> hoofharted: you might just want the Windows checkdsk to do it upoin booting into windows
[03:22] <hoofharted> i dont know
[03:22] <nowisn> yes one hard drive and two others on a promise technologies 133tr2 controller card
[03:22] <dbmoodb> - dont think it exists
[03:22] <nowisn> no scuzi or sata drives
[03:22] <marx2k> nowisn: it probably installed grub onto one of those other hard drives :)
[03:23] <dbmoodb> oh
[03:23] <dbmoodb> i get that too
[03:23] <dbmoodb> just change it to target device is another number like if it is h0,0 try h0,1 .. etc
[03:23] <marx2k> nowisn: your best bet might just be to download and burn Super Grub Rescue Disc
[03:23] <thomas_newbie__> is there a way you can see your ip address instead of going to a website? ifconfig ?
[03:23] <marx2k> http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[03:24] <joh6nn> anybody in here have any experience with apt-cacher?  i'm getting unexpected results when i use it in conjunction with Acquire::http::Proxy “http://apt-cache-machine:3142″;
[03:24] <marx2k> thomas_newbie__: ifconfig for wired, iwconfig for wireless
[03:24] <nowisn> hmm I only noticed one drive in the prompt
[03:24] <esaym> what is the default kernel installed on ubuntu 7.10?   RT or Generic?
[03:24] <marx2k> nowisn: what prompt?
[03:24] <nowisn> K super grub, okay got a link
[03:24] <marx2k> esaym:  generic
[03:24] <esaym> thank you
[03:25] <thomas_newbie__> marx2k: k thx but what i get when i do ifconfig is my router's ip....Can I see my real ip using ifconfig?
[03:25] <marx2k> nowisn: theres a point later in the install where there's an 'advanced' button in the lower right.. .thats where you specify where to install grub to (they really should make that more self-explanatory)
[03:25] <nowisn> during install it goes to the partition page, i thought i only seen one drive
[03:25] <hoofharted> can i fsck a windows harddrive from here
[03:25] <marx2k> thomas: ifconfig should bring up the current networking cards in your system and their own IPs
[03:25] <marx2k> hoofharted: you can try. unmount it first, I think
[03:26] <dbmoodb> LOL
[03:26] <marx2k> nowisn: yeah but Im talking about later in the install
[03:26] <dbmoodb> check the fecking manual before you blow his thing up
[03:26] <nowisn> , hmm my screwup, always in a hurry
[03:26] <marx2k> nowisn: if you didnt know to look at that area, you'd never know it even exists... it's really not obvious
[03:26] <nowisn> oh crap if it installed on another drive i hope it didn't destroy any data
[03:27] <hoofharted> marx2k: ok done
[03:27] <marx2k> nowisn: no, it wouldve just installed the grub to the MBR of another drive. no data loss
[03:27] <nowisn> Oh thank god
[03:27] <marx2k> :)
[03:27] <marx2k> brb
[03:27] <thomas_newbie__> marx2k: so no? i have a router and a modem in front of it
[03:27] <thomas_newbie__> anyone else help?
[03:27] <sub[t]rnl> whatcha need?
[03:28] <thomas_newbie__> is there a way i can view my ip address..not my router's ip address using ifconfig? or what
[03:28] <nowisn> i'm going to shutdown and pull that controller cards cables before loading again
[03:28] <sub[t]rnl> naw, thats just internal
[03:28] <dbmoodb> sure ifconfig
[03:28] <sub[t]rnl> need to have it viewed from somehwere outside the router
[03:28] <sub[t]rnl> you could do something like this
[03:29] <sub[t]rnl> curl -0 "http://checkip.dyndns.org" | awk '{print $6}'
[03:29] <sub[t]rnl> don't know, play with the bash regex and clean it up
[03:29] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: wow
[03:29] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: dont know what that does....
[03:30] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: so answer is that it's complicated...
[03:30] <dbmoodb> rofl
[03:30] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: that sux....the only way in that case is whatismyip.com
[03:30] <sub[t]rnl> copy and paste that into a file, chmod +x it, then run it.  pretty easy :D
[03:30] <dbmoodb> no he is just getting the ip from checkip
[03:30] <dbmoodb> why do you need your internet ip ?
[03:31] <thomas_newbie__> dbmoodb: i'm configuring my apache2 server
[03:31] <dbmoodb> so use dyndns
[03:31] <thomas_newbie__> dbmoodb: might need guidance on that :S
[03:31] <dbmoodb> :) dyndns.org
[03:31] <dbmoodb> ddclient
[03:31] <dbmoodb> !ddclient
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ddclient - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <dbmoodb> drat...
[03:32] <dbmoodb> dpkg know it ..
[03:32] <dbmoodb> meh
[03:32] <thomas_newbie__> hold on
[03:32] <SheeEttin> dbmoodb: I do believe it comes with documentation
[03:32] <thomas_newbie__> let me look it  up
[03:32] <sub[t]rnl> !info ddclient | thomas_newbie__
[03:32] <ubotu> thomas_newbie__: ddclient: Update dynamic IP address at DynDNS.com. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.7.3-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 50 kB, installed size 308 kB
[03:32] <dbmoodb> so do i shee
[03:33] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: don't i have to pay for dyndns
[03:33] <SheeEttin> Oh, you weren't the one asking for help...? :P
[03:33] <sub[t]rnl> newp
[03:33] <dbmoodb> no
[03:33] <thomas_newbie__> i'm registering a domain name/
[03:34] <sub[t]rnl> you can register what, 5 hosts too
[03:34] <dbmoodb> you get a few options
[03:34] <dbmoodb> not purely free of advertising for them
[03:34] <thomas_newbie__> i'm confused i guess i'll ready up on it
[03:34] <nowisn> okay bit of help here on what i should do i disconnected other drives so theres only the one, its got windows on it somewhere, but who cares about it, the livecd is loaded at the install page.
[03:34] <DarkDancer2> I'm back, does anyone even remmeber my problem?
[03:34] <nowisn> can i fix grub with this
[03:34] <thomas_newbie__> hold on though lol why do i need an domain name....ip address is fine
[03:35] <dbmoodb> do you have a static ip ?
[03:35] <sub[t]rnl> nowisn➜ yes, boot into the live cd, and you can restore the mbr from within the grub> shell
[03:35] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ if your ip changes, the host you setup will always point to it, via ddclient.
[03:36] <nowisn> K
[03:36] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: aww yea awesome i just read that
[03:36] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ most routers support this dyndns update as well
[03:37] <dbmoodb> not all are reliable tho
[03:37] <nowisn> basic walkthrough may be needed, I haven't used linux in a long time, damn i feel old lol
[03:37] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: lets assume that my ip does not change....I won't need this right?
[03:37] <killermach> sorry.. but did anyone ever answer how to turn on the directory tree in dolphin?
[03:37] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ no
[03:38] <SheeEttin> So anyway, I got a problem. If I try to log in, KDM hangs at the "system services" stage. Any suggestions on where to look for logs, culprits, etc.?
[03:38] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ but it could still be usefull for having a domain associated with the ip to your choosing
[03:38] <nowisn> this dvd livecd loads slow i find
[03:38] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ so instead of, hey http://78.90.123.456 and check out my site! it could be, hey http://SheeEttin.is-a-geek.com and check out my site
[03:39] <sub[t]rnl> they offer a range of free domains
[03:39] <dbmoodb> sheettin.mu
[03:39] <SheeEttin> actually it's sheeettin.ath.cx
[03:39] <dbmoodb> bah why do you al pick those
[03:39] <dbmoodb> .ath.cx's
[03:39] <SheeEttin> Short and easy to remember.
[03:40] <dbmoodb> .mu
[03:42] <nowisn> anyone busy, where do i find the grub shell
[03:42] <sub[t]rnl> nowisn➜ once you get in the livecd, run sudo fdisk -l, find the partition that / is loaded on, then install grub on that partition.. example.. grub-install --root-directory=/dev/sda2 /dev/sda
[03:43] <sub[t]rnl> or I can show you how to do it by the grub shell
[03:44] <sub[t]rnl> brb smoke
[03:44] <dbmoodb> CANCER
[03:45] <dbmoodb> mmm yummy yummy tar
[03:45] <SheeEttin> or case fire, one or the other
[03:45] <alexbobp> Is it possible to install Mac OS on a hard drive to be used in a PPC mac, from an x86 computer?
[03:45] <DarkDancer2> hello all, is there a way to force apt-get to install something over itself?
[03:45] <SheeEttin> DarkDancer2: as in...
[03:45] <dbmoodb> ...
[03:45] <dbmoodb> purge remove ... reinstall
[03:45] <Dr_willis> apt-get has a force option.
[03:46] <alexbobp> DarkDancer2: apt-get --reinstall install ...
[03:46] <Dr_willis> I thought.. but ive rarely seen a case where someone needs to reinstall a package.
[03:46] <dbmoodb> - did to get lprng working
[03:46] <alexbobp> Dr_willis: reinstalling a package is useful if some files get corrupted.  I've had that happen, although it's rare
[03:46] <DarkDancer2> Referring to the problem I came in here for, (which I will detail for you if you would like to hear it) I am trying to help a friend get his mp3's working again.
[03:46] <dbmoodb> -  (on a arm)
[03:47] <Dr_willis> alexbobp,  every time ive seen someone want to reinstall a package.. they mistakenly think it will reset their USERS home dir settings..
[03:47] <alexbobp> oh, I see the problem with my question.  I meant, Is it possible to install Kubuntu PPC on a hard drive to be used in a PPC mac, from an x86 computer?
[03:47] <SheeEttin> saw someone once who had to uninstall and reinstall HAL... fully uninstall, not just a reinstall... scary.
[03:47] <alexbobp> DarkDancer2: you probably would want dpkg-reconfigure then, not reinstalling
[03:47] <alexbobp> see what Dr_willis said
[03:48] <dbmoodb> shee no down time ?
[03:48] <DarkDancer2> dpkg-reconfigure packet name?
[03:49] <dbmoodb> yes - salt and pepper
[03:49] <SheeEttin> Dunno. 'Twas on kubuntuforums.net, could probably dig it up if you want...
[03:49] <nowisn> linux is on dev sda2
[03:49] <shadowhywind> hay all, I was wondering, Is anyone else having an issue keeping the current/correct time?
[03:49] <alexbobp> DarkDancer2: yeah.  Sometimes for the mp3 thing, even "rm ~/.xine" works.
[03:49] <alexbobp> what's the specific symtom?
[03:49] <alexbobp> er, make that rm -r
[03:49] <dbmoodb> !ntp
[03:49] <ubotu> Information about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)
[03:50] <shadowhywind> Well thats not the issue, My time will randomly go forward an hour, or back couple of hours, just at random times
[03:50] <SheeEttin> alexbobp: re: PPC/x86, in theory it's possible, but I don't know if the system would like having its processor architecture changed on it...
[03:50] <dbmoodb> dual booting
[03:50] <DarkDancer2> Thanks, will try.
[03:51] <alexbobp> SheeEttin: The reason I want to do it is I have an old mac with a busted CD drive, and I want to install Kubuntu on it
[03:51] <dbmoodb> alex - floppy ?
[03:51] <alexbobp> If only VMWare could emulate PPC.  I've used VMWare for offline installations before...
[03:51] <SheeEttin> no drives you can steal from something else?
[03:51] <dbmoodb> or you could just take a cdrive from another comp
[03:52] <dbmoodb> ah - debootstrap ?
[03:53] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: yea thats awesome but I always thought I had to pay for that :S
[03:53] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: anyway i created an account with DynDNS
[03:54] <alexbobp> it's CD drive has one of those weird wide ribbon cables.  I don't know where to find another one like it,
[03:54] <nowisn> must be doing something wrong, unrecognized option
[03:54] <dbmoodb> -usb boot ?
[03:55] <SheeEttin> alexbobp: floppy, USB, network boot...?
[03:55] <Dr_willis> weird wide ribbon cable? You mean an IDE cable?
[03:55] <alexbobp> it's way too old for usb boot.
[03:55] <dbmoodb> os x ?
[03:55] <alexbobp> Dr_willis: yeah, but the wide kind.  Lemme count the pins.
[03:56] <Dr_willis> I do belive there are 40 and 80 pin? i forget. :0
[03:56] <SheeEttin> I'm not aware of any wide ribbon, 'cept maybe SCSI...
[03:56] <dbmoodb> got a floppy drive ?
[03:56] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. trying to rember what a scsi cable even looks like.
[03:56] <alexbobp> It has a floppy drive.
[03:57] <alexbobp> is there a floppy disk that can load stuff from the CD drive?
[03:57] <SheeEttin> http://utils.blinkenlights.nl/scsi/50pinscsi.jpg ?
[03:57] <alexbobp> SheeEttin: Yes, that's it
[03:58] <nowisn> is there a readme on installing grub?
[03:58] <SheeEttin> SCSI it is.
[03:58] <alexbobp> first I'm going to try CD again.  I think it might boot from CD if I hold down a key?
[03:58] <SheeEttin> alexbobp: C, I think
[04:02] <farchord> Hello
[04:02] <farchord> Anyone know what's the command to know my current kubuntu release?
[04:03] <Dr_willis> look in  the help/info/about menu item normally
[04:03] <SheeEttin> farchord: "lsb_release -a"
[04:03] <Dr_willis> for kde.. for kubuntu - see SheeEttin
[04:03] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:03] <farchord> Ok this is really on the odd side
[04:03]  * Dr_willis wonders how people forget what release they installed..
[04:03] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:03] <farchord> This system is a fresh install of Kubuntu
[04:03] <farchord> And, for some reason, it just told me there's a distro upgrade to 7.10
[04:03] <farchord> but im already using 7.10
[04:03] <SheeEttin> Dr_willis: you'd be surprised at what can happen
[04:04]  * farchord scratches his head
[04:04]  * Dr_willis scratches his....... nose.
[04:04] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:04] <SheeEttin> farchord: known problem. CD-ROM repo probably still enabled (see /etc/apt.sources.list).
[04:04] <Dr_willis> Thats a bug farchord  :)
[04:04] <farchord> ahhhhh
[04:06] <DarkDancer2> Ok, SheeEttin that didn't change anything....
[04:07] <farchord> sorry kind of a newb, which line do I comment out?
[04:07] <SheeEttin> DarkDancer2: don't look at me, I didn't recommend anything to you >_>
[04:07] <farchord> ooo
[04:07] <farchord> nevermind
[04:07] <DarkDancer2> oh, sorry... ;)
[04:07] <farchord> foundit
[04:08] <cleit0n> hi, how i do to upgrade festy -> gust with CD?
[04:08] <nowisn> someone please show me how to install grub from the shell, TY
[04:08] <DarkDancer2> sorry, that was alexbobp
[04:08] <Dr_willis> sudo update-grub should 'install it' - dependiong on what you got going on.. it may be miss-configured. :)
[04:09] <Dr_willis> !grub
[04:09] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:09] <SheeEttin> nowisn: try the grub documentation, too
[04:09] <Dr_willis> the grub homepage has some very well done docs. :)
[04:09] <alexbobp> DarkDancer2: what did I do?
[04:09] <nowisn> TY so much
[04:10] <DarkDancer2> alexbobp, you said we should rm the .xine directory
[04:10] <alexbobp> so after mucking around inside my mac and adding a few PCI cards, it appears to boot but won't talk to the monitor, which is kind of a big problem.  Any advice?
[04:10] <DarkDancer2> we did that then removed the libxine1 package and installed it again. no go.
[04:11] <alexbobp> DarkDancer2: what is the problem you're having with mp3s?
[04:11] <SheeEttin> alexbobp: reseat video card, check BIOS for video init options, make sure monitor is plugged in & turned on, etc.
[04:11] <alexbobp> it's an integrated video card
[04:11] <cleit0n>  how i do to upgrade festy -> gust with CD?
[04:12] <alexbobp> and it doesn't really have a bios
[04:12] <DarkDancer2> alexbobp,  mp3's will not play since an update that came in this morning, they won't play in any app he has, except VLC. FLAC's play fine.
[04:12] <alexbobp> or, it doesn't have one with a config screen, anyway
[04:12] <SheeEttin> cleit0n: I think the alternate installer can do that
[04:13] <farchord> mmmmm k now it won't update, gives a segmentation error on the linux image packet
[04:13] <alexbobp> vlc has it's own library.  what messages do you get from other programs?
[04:14] <farchord> <.<
[04:14] <mixed> how do you disable system sounds?
[04:14] <alexbobp> DarkDancer2: try also reinstalling mpeglib
[04:14] <se7en_> !conky
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about conky - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <SheeEttin> mixed: system settings > notifications
[04:14] <se7en_> !info conky
[04:14] <ubotu> conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.7-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 140 kB, installed size 472 kB
[04:16] <DarkDancer2> alexbobp, just a sec, I'll get it for you.
[04:16] <mixed> SheeEttin, that was it, thanks, it's a little bit from SuSE 10.3 KDE
[04:16] <cleit0n> SheeEttin: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php#latest here dont have this
[04:17] <mixed> anyone know if linuxquestions.org is down
[04:18] <SheeEttin> cleit0n: 32-or or 64-bit processor?
[04:18] <brian_> I have the latest flash player 9.0.115.0 with FF 2.0.0.11 but it runs extremely slow... seems like 1 fps. Sound is ok. Any ideas on what to check?
[04:18] <cleit0n> SheeEttin: 32
[04:20] <farchord> ahhh found how! Good ol' apt-get upgrade.
[04:20] <qinyan> why I upgrade my system and then I found sound card don't work?
[04:20] <qinyan> my sound card is ALC262
[04:23] <DarkDancer2> alexbobp, never mind, it did work, you are a genius.... ;)
[04:23] <root__> hi all
[04:23] <root__> a have a little poblem
[04:23] <SheeEttin> don't we all
[04:23] <alexbobp> DarkDancer2: not really, but thanks
[04:24] <oakbrook> Hello, I'm new to using IRC....But not new to Kubuntu. I just finished setting up an old dell gx60 with a 32 in LCD screen, and it works, but I'm getting 2 errors when the desktop is loading. It says "file protocol died unexpectedly" and "process protocal died unexpectedly" in 2 different kde desktop windows, it loads really slow until I click OK and then it appears to work fine...any ideas what the problem is?
[04:25] <alexbobp> oakbrook: that probably means you saved your session with a konq/dolph window having a uri that is no longer available.
[04:25] <alexbobp> I often get that when I log off while I had open my flash drive, for example.
[04:25] <oakbrook> ahh
[04:25] <Dr_willis> i agree with alexbobp
[04:25] <alexbobp> it's an annoyance, but nothing to worry about
[04:26] <Dr_willis> Saves Sessions is a neat feature.. but can be an annoyance
[04:26] <Dr_willis> I normally just disable them
[04:26]  * SheeEttin hasn't tried saved sessions since logging out didn't work in dapper
[04:26] <brian_> Can anyone help with a Flash Player slowness problem?
[04:26] <oakbrook> that's true at least it was true...the dolphin window was loaded at first but now it's not and it still does that.
[04:27] <SheeEttin> brian_: how powerful is your CPU?
[04:27] <alexbobp> !ask
[04:27] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[04:27] <oakbrook> am i missing something about saved sessions?
[04:27] <Dr_willis> I would check out the kde sessions settings. and tell it to strt with a new session, or somthing like that. :) i forget where the setting is even at
[04:27] <brian_> SheeEttin: 533Mhz with 256mb RAM (maxed).
[04:27] <SheeEttin> oakbrook: maybe, try setting it to not save sessions, log out & back in, and set it to save them again
[04:27] <alexbobp> oakbrook: even if it has no content, a window with a uri in it will be saved and crash again if you log out and log back in.  If you close the window and then log out, it shouldn't show up again.
[04:28] <SheeEttin> brian_: turn the quality down low and that's pretty much all you're gonna get.
[04:28] <Dr_willis> if its set to save the sessions on logoig.
[04:28] <Dr_willis> logout.
[04:28] <SheeEttin> oakbrook: system settings > advanced > session manager
[04:28] <oakbrook> I closed it, but it stil happens...where do I find the save sessions options?
[04:28] <brian_> SheeEttin: Thanks.
[04:28] <DarkDancer2> Bye all!
[04:29] <alexbobp> brian_: I can see why your flash is slow, but short of overclocking there's no software fix for a slow CPU.
[04:29] <SheeEttin> hmm, I should probably go to bed too
[04:29] <alexbobp> also overclocking is a bad idea if you don't know what you're doing.
[04:29] <SheeEttin> night y'all
[04:29] <brian_> alexbobp: It ran much smoother under Windoze though, so I thought I might need to check a setting...
[04:30] <nowisn> can't figure it out so i'm going to just reinstall
[04:32] <oakbrook> I think I found it under system settings session manager, it was resuming the same session. I'll give this a try, thanks Dr. Willis!
[04:33] <alexbobp> brian_: unfortunately, adobe doesn't care that much about Linux, and I get the sense that flash for Linux is not really optimized.
[04:33] <alexbobp> You might be better off with gnash, but it will have fewer features.
[04:33] <thomas_newbie__> the default configuration file for apache2 is /etc/apache2/apache2.conf        ??
[04:34] <brian_> alexbob: I was considering that before, I guess that's my only option now. Thanks.
[04:39] <lee986321__> eepers wrong area...eh how do i get to  eh the open-source...eh the one with da lizzard?
[04:42] <Gargoyle76> I am having major issues w/ adept
[04:42] <Gargoyle76> I can't install/uninstall anything properly
[04:43] <Gargoyle76> it's causin havoc!
[04:43] <Dr_willis> i always install synaptic, or use the shell for installing stuff
[04:43] <Dr_willis> adept - always.. well annoyed me. :)
[04:45] <Gargoyle76> I need help...i watch the install on details and depmod crashes
[04:50] <Gargoyle76> I'm a newbie and I don't understand what depmod is doing
[04:52] <sirina> what is depmod? *lol*
[04:53] <biovore> it do that on a kernel install/update?
[04:53] <Gargoyle76> you know...it's not very helpful to make fun of people who are trying to learn
[04:53] <Gargoyle76> sirina
[04:54] <Dr_willis> I cant rember ever usng depmod either.
[04:54] <OuZo> !hibernate
[04:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hibernate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:54] <Dr_willis> and im not a newbie. :)
[04:54] <biovore> depmod build the kernel module dependencies
[04:54] <Gargoyle76> ok
[04:54] <Dr_willis> sounds vaguely familer.
[04:54] <biovore> so when you install a module.. it knows what there modules are need to make the module work..
[04:54] <Dr_willis> used after you compile modules.. i think...
[04:54] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:55] <biovore> like you pci network card needs pci support..
[04:55] <Gargoyle76> that is why nothing is working!
[04:55] <biovore> for the nic card driver to work..
[04:55] <biovore> sudo depmod -a
[04:55] <Dr_willis> You are installing Packages (.debs) and getting depmod errors?
[04:55] <biovore> should rebuild teh depmod
[04:55] <Gargoyle76> how
[04:56] <biovore> its run by the kernel install script when you update a kernel.. (or suppose to be)
[04:56] <sirina> Gargoyle76: i just wondered how he says d'he is a newbie though i don't know what depmod is
[04:57] <Gargoyle76> depmod -a will not complete
[04:57] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[04:57] <ForgeAus> been a while :)
[04:57] <sirina> Gargoyle76: it was a serious question, didn't mean to make fun of it
[04:57] <sirina> man depmod
[04:57] <sirina> sorry. :)
[04:57] <Gargoyle76> apology accepted
[04:57] <sirina> *of him
[04:57] <Gargoyle76> ^_^
[04:57] <sirina> okay. :)
[04:58] <Gargoyle76> i'm just really frustrated
[04:58] <ForgeAus> oohh nice kde4 :)
[04:58] <biovore> yeah kde4 still very unstable
[04:58] <ForgeAus> well its only a release candidate at this stage right?
[04:58] <biovore> probably won't be ready for show time for another year.. looks nice though.. :-)
[04:59] <sirina> ouffa. why Gargoyle76?
[04:59] <biovore> Gargoyle76: sudo apt-get install -f
[04:59] <biovore> see if that can complete..
[04:59] <ForgeAus> can't wait for the Windows version to come out :) lol! ... lets hope it brings lots of defectors to Kubuntu :)
[05:00] <Gargoyle76> I may have screwed up...i downloaded kde4...just to peak and it didn't work...so I tried to go back to my original mgr and it crashed from then on
[05:00] <sirina> uhm sayin' he speakin with him. sorry again, Gargoyle76. :)
[05:00] <Gargoyle76> hold one..I'll try that
[05:00] <biovore> I don't think I want all thoses windows users.. Linux not ready to handle the masses of stupid that follows microsoft around..
[05:01] <Dr_willis> Windows is the reason such mass's of stupids.. exist. :)
[05:01] <killermach> I'mstill googling for a directory tree in dolphin.. anyone find it yet?
[05:01] <ForgeAus> to be fair both systems have their complexities and difficulties
[05:01] <Dr_willis> i think the Technical term is "MS-Lemming-Zombie" :) but i wont rant any more.
[05:02] <ForgeAus> dolphin directory tree?... um is it meant to have that?
[05:02] <ForgeAus> use konqueror instead
[05:02] <ForgeAus> or krusader
[05:02] <biovore> dolphin is kde4 (they have it backported for QT3 atm)
[05:02] <ForgeAus> (although krusader isn't exactly a directory tree view either come to think of it)
[05:02] <Gargoyle76> it's trying to run depmod...seems frozen
[05:02] <biovore> harddrive going?
[05:02] <ForgeAus> yeah I know dolphin is kde4 default file manager
[05:03] <ForgeAus> me I'd still go with konqui tho
[05:03] <biovore> yeah.. same here..
[05:03] <Gargoyle76> sounds like it's trying to access something
[05:03] <ForgeAus> I think Dolphin is too simple to handle the functionality I want out of a file manager lol
[05:03] <ForgeAus> I don't need another nautilus-like file manager
[05:04] <biovore> yeah..
[05:04] <biovore> dolphin atleast can uses konquerors service menu entries and stuff..
[05:04] <killermach> ok I found this http://dot.kde.org/1172721427/1172794484/1172821938/ looks like it or at least was missing entirely
[05:05] <ForgeAus> yeah well thats probably something to do with k-parts or what is it again? that KDE equiv of bonobo or something... started with d anyway...
[05:05] <Gargoyle76> http://www.pastebin.ca/846270 here is what happened
[05:05] <ForgeAus> been too long since I kubuntued I guess
[05:06] <biovore> but konqueror does have a file-tree
[05:07] <ForgeAus> yes
[05:07] <ForgeAus> at least thats one of its functions
[05:07] <biovore> yup
[05:07] <biovore> does dolphin have one?
[05:07] <killermach> yeah.. but kubuntu has opted to default to dolphin, to make our machines less usable
[05:07] <ForgeAus> killermach I honestly do recommend either konqueror or krusader as finle managers
[05:08] <ForgeAus> I mean dolphin is ok, but theres probably alot of functionality you can't get out of it that others probably do have
[05:08] <sirina> what a weekday is today?
[05:08] <ForgeAus> depends on your needs
[05:08] <Gargoyle76> http://www.pastebin.ca/846270 here is what happened
[05:08] <killermach> ForgeAus: I prefer konqueror, been using since 1999 or so
[05:08] <biovore> well the only dolphin really has going for it is it looks nice..
[05:08] <ForgeAus> for basic purposes theres probably nothing wrong with dolphin
[05:08] <killermach> ForgeAus: but Gutsy has forced dolphin on me via default install
[05:08] <ForgeAus> :) killermach then go for it...
[05:08] <ForgeAus> can't you change the default?
[05:08] <sirina> what a weekday is today? ...
[05:09] <ForgeAus> I mean the default file manager app not the default installed one
[05:09] <killermach> ForgeAus: I don't know.. can I change it? for nearly 10years I've never had to change the default kde file manager
[05:10] <ForgeAus> um... I'm not certain as to where to change it to be honest...
[05:10] <ForgeAus> brb I might be able to find out
[05:10] <sirina> tuesday, brainz! ;)
[05:10] <Gargoyle76> *head hurts*
[05:10] <jesse_> hi
[05:11] <ForgeAus> I mean the whole Doplhin things seems to have good intentions, I just find it a step backwards for my purposes
[05:11] <marx2k> so/// how does one enable compiz in kubuntu?
[05:11] <ForgeAus> marx have you installed it via adept?
[05:11] <biovore> Gargoyle76: sudo dpkg --configure -a --debug=320
[05:11] <sigma_123> !compiz
[05:11] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[05:12] <marx2k> groovy
[05:12] <ForgeAus> hey stdin :)
[05:12] <Gargoyle76> ok...hold one
[05:12] <killermach> ForgeAus: I only use a file manager for one thing, managing/moving and finding files easily, none of which dolphin does better or as well as konqueror
[05:13] <ForgeAus> killermach, yes but dolphin imho hasn't matured yet as an application
[05:13] <stdin> hello ForgeAus, and everyone :)
[05:13] <ForgeAus> stdin how do you change the default file manager from dolphin to konqueror?
[05:13] <Gargoyle76> same thing...-_-
[05:13] <stdin> !dolphin
[05:13] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[05:13] <ForgeAus> (or krusader for that matter?)
[05:13] <killermach> ForgeAus: I agree, so never replace a mature app w/ a new one. that's a basic no-no
[05:13] <ForgeAus> ahh there ok :)
[05:14] <ForgeAus> killermach one would think
[05:14] <ForgeAus> but the KDE people must have their reasons
[05:14] <biovore> Gargoyle76: anymore debug info?
[05:14] <sigma_123> yeah but the kde4 dolphin is alot more mature
[05:14] <Gargoyle76> nope
[05:15] <killermach> ForgeAus: thanks.. I'll try it
[05:15] <ForgeAus> don't thank me thank stdin :)
[05:15] <stdin> no, thank ubotu :)
[05:15] <biovore> Gargoyle76: what you have in /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic
[05:15] <biovore> and what arch you running?
[05:16] <ForgeAus> lol stdin :) that too
[05:16] <Gargoyle76> hold one
[05:16] <sigma_123> but i think its time the web browser and file manager split ways
[05:16] <ForgeAus> although thanking a bot is a little odd... don't you think?
[05:16] <biovore> !botsnack
[05:16] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[05:17] <Gargoyle76> what u wanna know
[05:17] <ForgeAus> heheh
[05:17] <biovore> pc 32bit or pc 64bit ?
[05:17] <sigma_123> now the konq team can concentrate on making a awesome web browser
[05:17] <Gargoyle76> 32bit
[05:17] <biovore> well konqueror has had good css support..
[05:17] <Gargoyle76> tosh laptop
[05:18] <ForgeAus> apt apt-get yum glsapt/slapt-get rpm.. its all good... just don't try them all with your kubuntu :)
[05:18] <sigma_123> yeah thats true
[05:18] <biovore> Gargoyle76: what you have in /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic
[05:18] <ForgeAus> of course theres lotsa others packman, pkgsrc, ebuild, etc...
[05:19] <Gargoyle76> list?
[05:19] <biovore> paste bin a directory listing..
[05:22] <sigma_123> so when will flash start working again?
[05:22] <biovore> maybe never.. :-(
[05:22] <biovore> you can manualy install it..
[05:23] <Gargoyle76> http://www.pastebin.ca/846276
[05:23] <biovore> but it kinda a pain for people who arn't linux savy
[05:23] <ForgeAus> what do you mean start working again?
[05:23] <ForgeAus> when did flash stop working?
[05:24] <biovore> !flash
[05:24] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:24] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[05:24] <biovore> 3 weeks ago.
[05:24] <nowisn> i see on the download site v1.0 for kubuntu
[05:24] <biovore> Gargoyle76: you look like you got the right  files in that directory
[05:24] <nowisn> is this different from 704
[05:25] <biovore> Gargoyle76: sudo depmod -a 2.6.22-14-generic -v
[05:25] <sigma_123> i hate flash. dnt know y it was invented. its such a waste of bandwidth
[05:25] <Gargoyle76> ok..hold one
[05:25] <biovore> should print a ton of stuff to the screen..  list the list of all the module dependencies for the kernel.
[05:26] <Gargoyle76> "Bus error (core dumped)"
[05:26] <biovore> well explains why apt isn't happy
[05:27] <Gargoyle76> ???
[05:27] <biovore> try dmesg
[05:27] <Gargoyle76> what does that do
[05:27] <biovore> prints the kernel messages
[05:27] <biovore> what the kernel did
[05:28] <Gargoyle76> pastebin it?
[05:28] <biovore> if you  want..
[05:29] <biovore> might shed some light
[05:29] <biovore> so (core dumped) is ussually means the program did a boo-boo or something hardware messed up and the kernel dump the program to save the system.
[05:30] <sigma_123> how do i stop konqueror animating icons when i click on them?
[05:30] <Gargoyle76> http://www.pastebin.ca/846284
[05:33] <biovore> [   39.766273] PCI: If a device doesn't work, try "pci=routeirq".
[05:33] <biovore> my pci bus being weird
[05:33] <biovore> (maybe(
[05:34] <biovore> might need to 'pci=routeirq to the kernel command line..
[05:34] <Gargoyle76> there's more..it didn't copy
[05:34] <Gargoyle76> hold
[05:35] <acee1234> anyone know how to get full screen to work  on youtube it flashes up then disappears shortly after hitting the full screen button
[05:37] <jalbert> !nvidia
[05:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:37] <biovore> acee1234: it works here
[05:38] <kalorin`> ok question
[05:38] <acee1234> biovore: are you using compiz?
[05:38] <kalorin`> what do you think will work better for linux, a diamond stealth 64 2mb or a matrox milenium 2mb?
[05:39] <kalorin`> (yeah they're way old)
[05:39] <biovore> acee1234: no..
[05:39] <Gargoyle76> http://www.pastebin.ca/846286
[05:39] <Gargoyle76> revised post
[05:39] <acee1234> biovore: perhapse problem there?
[05:39] <biovore> well compiz does break alot of things..
[05:40] <biovore> Gargoyle76: I see some problems there.. :-(
[05:40] <biovore> harddisk looks like its not happy
[05:40] <acee1234> biovore: how do i kill compiz
[05:40] <biovore> or the harddisk controller isn't working right..
[05:40] <acee1234> kill all?
[05:40] <Gargoyle76> are there any hd utils I can use to fix it?
[05:40] <biovore> acee1234: depends on how you got it setup..
[05:40] <biovore> [ 2838.176000] end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 88231787
[05:41] <biovore> I only seen this disk that are bad..
[05:41] <acee1234> biovore: i run compiz & at boot
[05:41] <biovore> but it could be a IDE controller problem
[05:41] <acee1234> biovore: killall doesnt work
[05:42] <biovore> acee1234: I havn't messed with compiz/beryl in months.. not sure how to kill it..
[05:42] <acee1234> biovore: figured it out
[05:42] <acee1234> biovore: still wont maximize
[05:43] <acee1234> behaves like a popp blocker is somewhere
[05:43] <acee1234> popup
[05:43] <ForgeAus> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoners_and_hats_puzzle
[05:43] <ForgeAus> oops wrong channel
[05:47] <killermach> ForgeAus: hmm.. when open konqueror, and click Settings->Configure Konqueror , nothing happens, just get a spinning cursor then the konqueror window goes dim and stays that way
[05:47] <killermach> I have to kill  it w/ xkill
[05:48] <thomas_newbie__> can someone help me with my apache2 server...I have a domain name set up to my ip but when i try to connect it doesn't load a page
[05:48] <killermach> ForgeAus: I'm sure it must be something in .kde/share/apps/ corrupted, but not sure what
[05:48] <killermach> thomas_newbie__: is the server started?
[05:48] <thomas_newbie__> yes because when i localhost it works
[05:49] <killermach> do netstat -anp --inet |grep 80
[05:49] <killermach> thomas_newbie__: oh it works on localhost, but not from internet?
[05:49] <Gargoyle76> biovore> still there?
[05:49] <ForgeAus> um.. killer you shoul dhave a dialog box
[05:49] <biovore> yup for a few mins..
[05:49] <ForgeAus> that lets you change "mime" types and such
[05:49] <thomas_newbie__> killermach: yes
[05:50] <Gargoyle76> any ideas?
[05:50] <killermach> ForgeAus: I created a new account, and konqueror works fine onthat user
[05:50] <killermach> thomas_newbie__: you have a few things that may cause that
[05:50] <killermach> thomas_newbie__: 1st try to run on port 8080 to see if your ISP has port 80 incoming blocked
[05:51] <SteamMachine> Howdy
[05:51] <ForgeAus> killermach you may need to log into your other account or run it as kdesu to change it
[05:51] <thomas_newbie__> killermach: and btw theres no "directoryindex" directive in the configuration files you know of? maybe thats the problem?
[05:51] <thomas_newbie__> killermach: it doesn't because i have an apache server set up on port 80 on my windows machien
[05:51] <killermach> thomas_newbie__: 2nd make sure you are forwarding that port through your NAT firewall and/or have your iptables firewall allowing port 80 from outside world
[05:51] <killermach> ForgeAus: yea.. just rebooted even.. no fix it
[05:51] <ForgeAus> either that or you have some kind of configuration fault
[05:52] <thomas_newbie__> killermach: ohhhh
[05:52] <ForgeAus> its also possible that you have corrupt konqueror even ... but I wouldn't suggest thats a likely cause at this stage
[05:52] <killermach> thomas_newbie__: so create an index.html file
[05:52] <thomas_newbie__> killermach: i think you got it.....I might not be forwarding the port...I have a router
[05:53] <ForgeAus> I'm not sure much about how multiple users affects konqueror configuration
[05:53] <killermach> yep.. you have to set up your NAT router to forward to that machine
[05:53] <thomas_newbie__> killermach: but shouldn't the router anyhow still forward the port to my linux machien aswell?
[05:53] <matthew_> Where can I download Fiesty Fawn?  It's not listed here: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[05:53] <matthew_> Seems to be skipped
[05:53] <biovore> Gargoyle76: from what the dmsg says.. your disk looks kinda dead...  could google on turning off DMA and doing the pci=irqroute thing might help
[05:53] <killermach> ForgeAus: individual users have individual settings for konqueror, I only made the other user to determine if my user profile is borked
[05:54] <thomas_newbie__> killermach: in my config files, I don't see a DirectoryIndex directive like there should be....right
[05:54] <Gargoyle76> thx
[05:54] <Gargoyle76> that's what I was afraid you'd say
[05:54] <biovore> Gargoyle76: but as of right now.. you disk is probably so corrupted that currently installed OS is probably toast or close to toast..
[05:54] <killermach> thomas_newbie__: it may be inthe global httpd.conf or the conf.d/ directory
[05:55] <biovore> biovore: the pci line in the dmesg kinds suggest the pci bus connection to the ide controller might have problems..
[05:56] <biovore> I am out for the night..
[05:56] <Gargoyle76> me too
[05:56] <Gargoyle76> thx for the help
[05:56] <marx2k> man... compiz themes come in 2 flavors. Vista and OSX
[05:56] <marx2k> wtf...
[05:57] <SteamMachine> So, hi all.
[05:58]  * fideas I'm not available now: Gone away for now.
[06:00] <killermach> thomas_newbie__: I have to go.. have fun
[06:02] <SteamMachine> Hi all.
[06:02] <thomas_newbie> killermach: hey maybe its because I don't have set permissions for my index.html file?
[06:02] <SteamMachine> I was wondering about an odd bug I encountered.
[06:02] <SteamMachine> When I installed kubuntu 7.10 from the install dvd - it told me there was a new version I could upgrade to.
[06:03] <SteamMachine> ie, version 7.10.
[06:03] <SteamMachine> It's done this every time I installed it.
[06:03] <SteamMachine> Very odd, though it doesn't seem to cause any other issues.
[06:05] <killermach> thomas_newbie: your index.html should be world readable
[06:05] <killermach> thomas_newbie: so something like chmod 644 index.html
[06:05] <killermach> thomas_newbie: on that note .. I'm going to be..'night
[06:08] <thomaskbu> any konversation gurus here?
[06:09] <factorx> thomaskbu: just ask your question
[06:09] <nowisn> hey are there any other larger channels that support linuxmce
[06:09] <thomaskbu> ok -- about 3 weeks ago the watched nicks online feature stopped working correctly -- it never alerts on sign on now and only about half the time on sign off
[06:09] <thomaskbu> any ideas why or how to fix
[06:10] <nowisn> tried to install it but its making kubuntu buggy saying its causing errors
[06:10] <thomasnuggetts__> how do i save a kate text file to the root directories ?? no permissions how to do?
[06:11] <nowisn> its telling me to do a fresh install again
[06:11] <nowisn> of kubuntu
[06:14] <nowisn> diff.list-kate   changed  'zliblg'  '1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-5ubuntu2' '
[06:15] <nowisn> this is one of the modifications
[06:16] <nowisn> hmm now says i don't have an internet connection
[06:17] <AmyRose> !pm | comp4
[06:17] <ubotu> comp4: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[06:17] <nowisn> K thats it, later
[06:17] <thomasnuggetts__> can someone help me with my apache server...it is up and running but how do I configure it so a specific webpage shows up when you go to my domain name?
[06:20] <AmyRose> comp4: STOP PMING ME
[06:24] <sparr> i get audio/video desync in kdenlive, help?
[06:25] <thomasnuggetts__> anyone can help?
[06:28] <BraWearerSamuel> I am a guy and wear a bra as often as I can and out in public all the time
[06:28] <BraWearerSamuel> I wore a bra out in public to the mall today under just a t-shirt
[06:28] <BraWearerSamuel> I am a guy with a huge bra collection that I wear
[06:28] <BraWearerSamuel> I adjust my bra straps when people are looking at me.
[06:28] <BraWearerSamuel> I love when my bra straps project through the back of my shirt.
[06:28] <n8k99> !offtopic BraWearerSamuel
[06:29] <Jeroi> :)
[06:41] <matthew> ok, whats this about Bra's?
[06:42] <matthew> oh.. Never mind i read the history of the Bra crap
[06:42] <Q-collective> hey all
[06:42] <matthew> HI
[06:44] <Q-collective> Currently when I close my laptop, the computer goes to a "deep sleep" that it can't wake up from. I have to reboot... I know this is a userspecific setting since my brothers account doesn't have this rather annoying behaviour. Where can I change this setting?
[06:45] <matthew> In System settings> Laptops and power , I guess you could look there
[06:47] <matthew> oh, under that laptops & power , in the laptop battery tab, there are more tabs... look under button actions
[06:47] <Q-collective> matthew: I don't have a laptop&power
[06:48] <matthew> Hmm... I honestly wouldnt know how to then...
[06:49] <Q-collective> great :(
[06:50] <matthew> yea.. im New to Linux on almost all counts
[06:50] <GuyFromHell> what's the name of that program that handles deb's like gdebi?
[06:51] <matthew> i had one HELL OVA time getting Firefox to work, when ubuntuzilla didnt work
[06:51] <Jeroi> dpkg
[06:51] <jussi01> !info gdebi-kde | GuyFromHell
[06:51] <ubotu> guyfromhell: gdebi-kde: Simple tool to install deb files. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 17 kB, installed size 124 kB
[06:51] <Q-collective> ubuntuzilla?
[06:51] <GuyFromHell> jussi01: thank you much =)
[06:51] <jussi01> GuyFromHell: :)
[06:52] <matthew> yea ubuntuzilla is a pre packaged scripter, but you need to get that to install and unpackage too
[06:52] <sirina> <-- second name is nickserv. *haha*
[06:52] <matthew> ubuntuzilla, is a mozilla installer basictly
[06:53] <Jeroi> doenst adept install and be able to remove packages?
[06:53] <jussi01> Jeroi: correct it should
[06:55] <matthew> \cleaar
[06:55] <matthew> oops
[06:55] <Jeroi> anyway, howcome aptitude or apt-get is never made to work like so that it can figure all the hand made programs and downloaded deb packets also?
[06:56] <jussi01> !checkinstall > Jeroi
[06:56] <jussi01> Jeroi: I dont really recomned it though.
[06:56] <Q-collective> might anyone else be able to help me out btw? :)
[06:56] <jussi01> Q-collective: question again?
[06:57] <Q-collective> [07:44:09] <Q-collective> Currently when I close my laptop, the computer goes to a "deep sleep" that it can't wake up from. I have to reboot... I know this is a userspecific setting since my brothers account doesn't have this rather annoying behaviour. Where can I change this setting?
[06:57] <Jeroi> Q-collective just double klick on deb packet with your mouse
[06:57] <Jeroi> adpet installer will handle the packet from that
[06:57] <Q-collective> Jeroi: wrong question
[06:57] <Jeroi> ?
[06:58] <Q-collective> I didn't have a question related to a deb package
[06:58] <Jeroi> well cant help you there, I dont use laptop
[06:59] <JoH_Buzz> holaaaa
[07:01] <Jeroi> my kubuntu wont go even into sleep
[07:02] <Jeroi> I close my monitor for overnight
[07:02] <Jeroi> my windows does go to sleepmode
[07:02] <Jeroi> I tough that kubuntu would go also, but it seems not.
[07:07] <Lynoure> Jeroi: Gutsy has some suspend troubles, but you should be able to adjust the setting from power manager, and see if it will suspend...
[07:13] <Lynoure> Jeroi: if it is not running, you can try starting it with   guidance-power-manager
[07:18] <kalorin`> \\\qwqTTTTTTTTTTYYYYYyyyyyyyyyyyippppppppp
[07:19] <Lynoure> kalorin`: keyboard problems?
[07:19] <kalorin`> p
[07:20] <kalorin`> yeah seem to have a dying one
[07:20] <kalorin`> all the sudden today I noticed that the o i u q w e r keys wouldn't repeat
[07:20] <kalorin`> weirdest thing
[07:21] <kalorin`> they'd generally work 1 time but not repeat
[07:21] <kalorin`> just switched it out
[07:24] <Lynoure> kalorin`: luckily keyboards (non-laptop) are cheap
[07:35] <inteliwasp> what shuld i check on my laptop b/c it wont boot the 7.10 cd but it will boot the gentoo live cd...
[07:36] <jussi01> inteliwasp: have you tried the alternate cd?
[07:36] <jussi01> !alternate
[07:36] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[07:36] <inteliwasp> did they do something diffrent with the new versions?
[07:37] <jussi01> inteliwasp: no, there are 2 types of cd's. the desktop and the alternate.
[07:37] <jussi01> inteliwasp: what is your hw specs
[07:37] <jussi01> ?
[07:39] <inteliwasp> laptop amd 2800xp m, 512MB, and i do not see anything with the cd text during boot, it just goes to the hdd boot, the cd does work on another comp...
[07:41] <jussi01> inteliwasp: curious
[07:41]  * inteliwasp seems to be a magnet for bad hardware...
[07:44] <jussi01> inteliwasp: gfx card?
[07:45] <inteliwasp> crap-tastic ati igp
[07:46] <jussi01> inteliwasp: Im guessing thats the issue. try the alternate, but it may need some command line tweaking after install
[07:46] <inteliwasp> like what kind of tweaking?
[07:46] <noaXess> if i'm not logged in in my kde session.. will apt-get update the system anyway?
[07:47] <sigma_123> can someone tell me how to stop konqueror animating every icon i click? its so irritating
[07:49] <inteliwasp> noaXess: if you do "apt-get update" the "apt-get upgrade" it will install all new updates
[07:49] <jussi01> sigma_123: you mean the bouncer while starting? or?
[07:49] <jussi01> inteliwasp: installing drivers by hand... (/me has similar hw)
[07:50] <sigma_123> jussi01: yeah that thing
[07:50]  * inteliwasp rus off to d/l alternate install disc
[07:51] <jussi01> sigma_123: system-settings - keyboard and mouse - mouse - visual feed back on activation (uncheck)
[07:52] <sigma_123> ah yes. dam i always 4get that. thanks
[07:53] <jussi01> sigma_123: :)
[07:55] <noaXess> inteliwasp: wow.. inteligent.. that i know sorry.. but my question, if i set in adept_manager that updates should automatically downloaded will that happen even if i'm not logged in in my kde session?
[07:56] <jussi01> noaXess: I dont think so.
[07:57] <inteliwasp> not sure, check to see if there is a cron job or the program is still active
[08:08] <sonoftheclayr> Okay I have a bit of a problem. My laptop has 2 memory sockets with a maximum amount of 512MB, at the moment I have 256MB and I wanted to know if there was a way I could find out if both banks were full or not
[08:10] <sigma_> when i press the volume up and down buttons on my keyboard it adjusts the "Headphone" volume in kmix and not the "PCM" volume. how can i change it so that it adjusts the PCM volume?
[08:10] <emilsedgh> sigma_: right click on kmix'es sys tray applet
[08:10] <emilsedgh> sigma_: and click on 'Select Master Channel'
[08:11] <sigma_> emilsedgh: i set it to PCM but the keyboard is still adjusting the Headphone volume
[08:12] <emilsedgh> sigma_: try others, i dont know anymore :)
[08:14] <sigma_> could it possibly be the mapping of the keyboard?
[08:15] <ere4si> sigma_:  that was my first guess...
[08:15] <jussi01> !keyboard
[08:15] <ubotu> To switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[08:15] <jussi01> grr
[08:15] <jussi01> !shortcuts
[08:15] <ubotu> keyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[08:15] <sigma_> !Shortcuts
[08:18] <ere4si> sonoftheclayr, do you want to know if you have 2x 128 mem or 1x 256?
[08:20] <sigma_> can somone paste the command that opens Adept Add/Remove programs? i deleted the shortcut by mistake
[08:20] <ForgeAus> do a ls on your /usr/bin directory
[08:20] <ForgeAus> theres a list of adept adept-this adept-that, its one of them :)
[08:21] <ForgeAus> probably adept-manager or something I guess
[08:22] <emilsedgh> sigma_: adept_installer i think
[08:23] <sigma_> thanks
[08:23] <zlatko> hey
[08:23] <sigma_> so guys its 3 days to kde4, i see they already finalized the packages, has it already been inserted into kubuntu?
[08:24] <zlatko> do you know any multi messenger programs for kde, except kopete and pidgin?
[08:24] <zlatko> like trillian?
[08:25] <ForgeAus> I heard trillian astra supposedly was able to have had a linux version but I havn't seen/heard about one actually existing
[08:25] <zlatko> ok
[08:25] <zlatko> thx
[08:25] <ForgeAus> besides its not free anyway
[08:25] <zlatko> i will take a look
[08:26] <zlatko> it should be for linux
[08:26] <ForgeAus> no
[08:26] <zlatko> ok
[08:26] <ForgeAus> should be would be nice tho :)
[08:27] <zlatko> hehe, maybe sometime in the future
[08:29] <sonoftheclayr> ere4si: I don't know at all. That's what I want to find out
[08:32] <zlatko> what do you use the python interpreter for?
[08:34] <ere4si> sonoftheclayr,  type   free    in a terminal - from there you can see how much mem you have - to see if it is in one slot or two youi'll need to open the case and look - hope it helps :)
[08:35] <inteliwasp> for some reason the desktop cd and the alt cd will not boot on my laptop...
[08:35] <ere4si> sonoftheclayr,  terminal = konsole
[08:35] <sonoftheclayr> ere4si: sudo lshw | less. There are two banks and each has 128MB in them
[08:35] <sonoftheclayr> Thank you anyway
[08:36] <ere4si> sonoftheclayr,  well done - does that solve your issue?
[08:36] <sonoftheclayr> Yes it does. Now I know how much RAM to buy
[08:36] <ere4si> k
[08:42] <zlatko> what do you use the python interpreter for?
[08:43] <jussi01> zlatko: to interpret python? (python is an interpreted language - best to read about that yourself...)
[08:55] <inteliwasp> have they changed the intall cd from 6.06?
[08:56] <inteliwasp> i am not able to boot the 7.10 desktop or alt install disks
[08:57] <jussi01> inteliwasp: ouch. did you check md5sums?
[08:57] <inteliwasp> on the desktio cd i did with another comp, it was ok
[08:58] <jussi01> inteliwasp: thats weird. I dont have an answer for that one
[08:59] <inteliwasp> shall i ask later when more ppl are up?
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[09:00] <inteliwasp> hello
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> very quiet today :)
[09:17] <eddieftw> yes
[09:17] <PolitikerNEU> does anybody know how/whether I can hide backup files (kubuntu 7.10 64 bit)
[09:22] <khelll> how to edit host names?
[09:23] <fildo> !hostname
[09:23] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[09:23] <fildo> !hostname | khell
[09:23] <ubotu> khell: please see above
[09:23] <fildo> :P
[09:24] <khelll> fildo how can i let kubuntu to check for www.myapp.com locally
[09:31] <krawek> y esto?
[09:31] <posingaspopular> !es
[09:31] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[09:32] <krawek> !flash
[09:32] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[09:32] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[09:32] <krawek> sorry
[09:34] <khelll>  am trying to associate /var/www/apps/myapp/ with an domain name www.myapp.com , how to do so
[09:47] <yao_ziyua1> currently i keep kubuntu in a virtual machine under my windows xp
[09:47] <yao_ziyua1> i want to fully migrate to kubuntu,
[09:47] <yao_ziyua1> but i want to do it seamlessly:
[09:47] <LimCore> yao_ziyua1: cool
[09:48] <yao_ziyua1> let a virtual machine manager creates a virtual machine that creates and uses an actual linux partition (ext3) on my hard disk for installing kubuntu
[09:48] <yao_ziyua1> and initially let me use this Kubuntu as a virtual machine and later i can reboot directly to it
[09:48] <yao_ziyua1> can any virtual machine manager do that?
[09:49] <PROCYYON> hello ppl
[09:49] <PROCYYON> ive install kubuntu
[09:49] <scorpking> yao_ziyua1: not that i know of but qemu might be able to do that. it won't run xp though
[09:49] <yao_ziyua1> i remember vmware seems to be able to do it by providing a "Disk Partition Mounter" so that a VMware virtual machine can use a real disk partition
[09:49] <yao_ziyua1> scorpking: why qemu can't run xp??
[09:50] <PROCYYON> but when grub starts it displays one row with unknown characters
[09:50] <scorpking> qemu can use /dev/hda? for a hard disk
[09:50] <PROCYYON> and it doesnt run
[09:50] <scorpking> yao_ziyua1: some problem with validation of xp
[09:50] <yao_ziyua1> ...
[09:50] <yao_ziyua1> so vbox becomes my only option?
[09:51] <scorpking> not sure. will start using it today myself ;)
[09:51] <jussi01> !grub
[09:51] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:55] <PROCYYON> Kubuntu is the only OS in my pc. I havent lost gbub due to windows
[09:58] <scorpking> PROCYYON: look on that link and try to re-instal grub
[09:59] <PROCYYON> ive installed at least 4 times
[09:59] <PROCYYON> ive run kubuntu in a WD hdd
[10:00] <PROCYYON> and now im change it with a seagate
[10:00] <PROCYYON> there is any problem with seagate hard disks?
[10:00] <ForgeAus> if grub isn't working that link helps
[10:00] <ForgeAus> it may have autoinstalled incorrectly
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[10:01] <ForgeAus> vmware runs winXP doesn't it?
[10:01] <jussi01> ForgeAus: yes
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> ForgeAus, vmware runs any operating system virtually
[10:02] <ForgeAus> hmmm... thats suprising didn't know qemu doesn't run XP... strange...
[10:02] <tuxick> how to keep kubuntu/kde from messing up network? i want network brought up at boot time
[10:02] <ForgeAus> Action even macosx86 so I hear, never been able to try it sofar...
[10:02] <jussi01> PROCYYON: go and reinstall grub
[10:02] <jussi01> !tab > ForgeAus
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> ForgeAus, not seen that but it technically should
[10:03] <ForgeAus> Jussi I know about nick completion on IRC
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> ForgeAus, qemu does run xp
[10:03] <ForgeAus> I never use it tho
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> ForgeAus, you can even run kubuntu in xp in kubuntu
[10:03] <ForgeAus> hehe :)
[10:03] <jussi01> ForgeAus: great. just you havent been using it...
[10:03] <jussi01> ;)
[10:03] <ForgeAus> jussi I used to once but too many people with similar nicks made it a pain
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> ForgeAus, I use virtualbox myself (if i have to)
[10:04] <ForgeAus> I know it wraps around/through the list and stuff... but I always found it easier to type an abbrev instead
[10:05] <ForgeAus> yeah I got that in my Kubuntu install but I only have VMware in my XP install
[10:05] <ForgeAus> I found VMware server more friendly in XP than the *nix version, mostly due to the ease at which you can mount drives...
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> ForgeAus, depends what you are familiar with really
[10:06] <ForgeAus> the .pl script for it wanted to do all silly stuff like install ncb devices and stuff that doesn't seem necessary for mounting a virtual drive...
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> ForgeAus, I prefer the unix one as it runs like a charm (plus i have to maintain it at work a lil)
[10:07] <ForgeAus> Action you can mount drives in *nix with VMware?
[10:07] <emilsedgh> anyone tried kdevelop and or quanta+ from kde4? are there usable?
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> ForgeAus, sure
[10:07] <ForgeAus> Action using the perl script uh?
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> ive not set it up myself but ive seen mapped drivesd
[10:08] <ForgeAus> I think I'll wait till it gets integrated into FUSE
[10:08] <ForgeAus> that should make it easier at least
[10:08] <ForgeAus> that script was causing me major headaches
[10:10] <ForgeAus> in windows it was simple I was shocked that it automaticlaly picked up the EXT2IFS driver and read my kubuntu.vmdk as soon as I mounted it... but in Kubuntu itself I couldn't even get a .vmdk mounted at all
[10:16] <lunar-raven> is anyone running hardy?
[10:17] <stdin> they are in #ubuntu+1
[10:17] <lunar-raven> lol ok
[10:17] <lunar-raven> thanks
[10:37] <megaarmorednoob> hi
[10:37] <megaarmorednoob> need help men
[10:37] <posingaspopular> hi megaarmorednoob
[10:37] <posingaspopular> ask away
[10:38] <megaarmorednoob> what "ask away" means?
[10:39] <megaarmorednoob> i'm not so good in english
[10:39] <khelll>  i did modified /etc/hosts added this line 64.128.66.150 www.d1g.com home , went to firefox hitting home , is doing nothing !!!
[10:41] <megaarmorednoob> my Kopete won't show russian symbols
[10:41] <megaarmorednoob> help plz
[10:42] <stdin> you can use #ubuntu-ru for russian language support
[10:43] <chrigi> hallo
[10:50] <thanasi> !dolphin > me
[10:58]  * fideas  Gone away for now.
[11:00] <jasmin_> hello
[11:01] <jasmin_> any one knows about airtel edge usb modem
[11:02] <jasmin_> help me
[11:06] <megaarmorednoob> men, where's russian ubuntu channel?
[11:06] <megaarmorednoob> i've lost it
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[11:22] <gladier> hey guys - quick quesiton ... which repo has vmware-workstation and vmware-player and vmware-server in it?
[11:22] <bazhang> gladier: none
[11:22] <bazhang> vmware workstation is pay for gladier
[11:23] <gladier> fine .. vmware-server and player then
[11:23] <sub[t]rnl> multiverse probably
[11:23] <sub[t]rnl> ActionParsnip➜ heyas
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> hey sub[t]rnl
[11:24] <gladier> not in multiverse
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> gladier, http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server
[11:25] <sub[t]rnl> !vmware
[11:25] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[11:27] <voicu> can someone tell me how does vnc work? it keeps telling me that there is no server running on the machine altough there is and the connection should be able to go through
[11:27] <gladier> .. i have multiverse
[11:27] <wesley> can someone fix the bug in kdm theme manager for me?
[11:27] <gladier> !multiverse
[11:27] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> voicu, vnc allows you to remotely control a remote pc system
[11:28] <voicu> yeah, i know, but do i need any special networking rules or something?
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> voicu, make sure you have a vnc server running on the system you wish to control
[11:28] <wesley> can someone fix the bug in kdm theme manager for me? via krfb
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> voicu, is the pc you control on the local network or is it over the web?
[11:28] <voicu> i have ping response, the server should run (it's an XP machine) but it still says no connection or no server
[11:28] <voicu> local network
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> voicu, ok and have you told your firewall to allow connections (if you have one)
[11:29] <wesley> can someone fix the bug in kdm theme manager for me? via krfb
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> on the xp machine
[11:29] <voicu> i deactivated all firewalls
[11:29] <voicu> i kept only the nat rules
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> voicu, nat is when you access the www which doesnt affect what you are doing
[11:30] <wesley> can someone fix the bug in kdm theme manager for me? via krfb
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> voicu, ok so you have no windows firewall either
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> voicu, try accessing your xp system via ip in your vnc client nstead of computer name
[11:30] <voicu> well rdp works
[11:30] <wesley> can someone fix the bug in kdm theme manager for me? via krfb
[11:31] <voicu> xp is running rdp not vnc?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> voicu, do you want to connect via rdp or vnc?
[11:31] <wesley> can someone fix the bug in kdm theme manager for me? via krfb
[11:32] <voicu> actionparship: afaik vnc is faster right? if rdp doesn't cut it i would like to be able to connect with vnc
[11:32] <wesley> can someone fix the bug in kdm theme manager for me? via krfb
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> voicu, rdp is encrypted which is also good for connecting over www. you wont notice any speed increase at all using vnc over lan as the connection is fast anyway
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> wesley, stop repeating you look ridiculous, clearly no one can help. go ask google
[11:33] <voicu> well ok then, rdp it is :D
[11:33] <voicu> thanks for the info
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> voicu, if you port forward on your routers WAN port yu can connect over the www
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> voicu, np man
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> voicu, also it will allow you to connect from windows machines too (work / uni etc)
[11:34] <voicu> yeah, i know how nat works, i made the script myself
[11:34] <voicu> ok, gotta go, bye
[11:34] <wesley> i just repeat till someone answers there are like many people in this irc somone should can help me
[11:35] <ubuntu> hi
[11:35] <wesley> can someone fix the bug in kdm theme manager for me? via krfb
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> wesley, if no one replys.no one can. doi you want everyone to say no?
[11:35] <wesley> nope there should be one who is able to help yesterday i did get a site but it did not helped
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> wesley, have you googled? You havent even said what the problem is yet?
[11:36] <sub[t]rnl> wesley➜ edit your /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc and put Theme=/usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/directoryofyournewtheme
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> wesley, try that instead
[11:36] <sub[t]rnl> wesley➜ under that add usetheme=true, save and your done
[11:36] <ValeteXxX> What is the location for the new partition mean? The installation asks me if the partition shud be locaded at the beggining or end (installing kubuntu)
[11:37] <ValeteXxX> srry about the bad english x_x
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> ValeteXxX, its the location on the platter
[11:37] <wesley> i did someting like that yesterday
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> ValeteXxX, of the new partition
[11:37] <ValeteXxX> ActionParsnip: is it critical information or just some sort of organization?
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> ValeteXxX, its just organisation. just make sure you have at least a / and /swap
[11:38] <wesley> that why i am asking help
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> ValeteXxX, you could even have one for /home
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> wesley, still no idea what your issue is..........
[11:38] <ValeteXxX> ActionParsnip: yes I wanna have a /home, thats y I am doing it manually :D
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> ValeteXxX, cool
[11:38] <ValeteXxX> ActionParsnip: what about that logical and primary types?
[11:39] <wesley> that i dont get that bug fixed what preventents that i can set my own kdm theme
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> ValeteXxX, id google for hard drive partitioning to see what you are getting yourself into. Its not hard but is good to know
[11:39] <ValeteXxX> ok ty
[11:39] <sub[t]rnl> wesley➜ There is a bug within /etc/kde3/kdm/backgroundrc.  It would appear that if Wallpaper=default_blue.jpg doesn't exsist, kdmtheme manager will not be able to switch theme's.
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> wesley, why didnt you say "hi can anyone help me apply acustom kdm theme" so you dont look like a retard?
[11:40] <jussi01> ActionParsnip: be nice
[11:40] <wesley> because my englisch is not that good ?
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> wesley, "a bug with kdm" means a whole myriad of things from glitches to settings to core dumps
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> wesley, no you need to state what you want sorting instead of an overview statement
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> wesley, its like walking into a car garage and saying "my car is broken can you fix it" it means nothing
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> jussi01, will do]
[11:44] <wesley> its doest work
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> wesley, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37238
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> wesley, does that help any?
[11:50] <ValeteXxX> If I want to make room for 2 distros how sud I partition my hard drive?
[11:50] <wesley> i dont realy now i am still editing i have my background off now
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> ValeteXxX, just leave unpartitioned space
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> ValeteXxX, the other system will see it and offer to use it
[11:51] <ValeteXxX> ActionParsnip: oooh ok thanks
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> ValeteXxX, np
[11:56] <niels_> ubotu: !adept crash fix
[11:56] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[11:56] <wesley> it doest all not help
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> wesley, have you googled any?
[11:58] <sub[t]rnl> its pretty straightforward
[11:58] <sub[t]rnl> !kdmtheme | wesley
[11:58] <ubotu> wesley: To customize your !KDM theme, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu - However, see http://subtrnl.homelinux.com/kdmtheme.html for working around bug #132723 (http://tinyurl.com/2prhgc)
[11:58] <underdog> i seem to have a serious problem. i was attempting to get a VGA monitor to work as dual with my laptop's LCD. I was in kcontrol and enabled this through the peripheral settings. it then stated that the X server would need to be restarted. upon restarting, i am no longer taken into the desktop environment. i'm stuck at a text prompt asking me to log in. any ideas anyone?
[11:59] <sub[t]rnl> underdog➜ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:59] <sub[t]rnl> underdog➜ always backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:00] <underdog> (sub[t]rnl): thank you for the information. so will that sudo command you noted above fix the problem?
[12:01] <sub[t]rnl> underdog➜ that will generate a new xorg.conf to get you back in X
[12:01] <underdog> hmm okay. so does this mean i will not be able to have a dual display?
[12:01] <underdog> i will always come to the same problem?
[12:01] <jussi01> !dualhead | underdog
[12:01] <ubotu> underdog: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[12:01] <jussi01> !xinerama > underdog
[12:02] <jussi01> underdog: which gfx card do you have?
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> underdog, you will but you need to keep a good xorg.conf so if the changes you make dont work you can go back
[12:03] <ValeteXxX> bleh
[12:03] <underdog> (ActionParsnip): thanks i will do that. i guess i just need to keep working on it.
[12:03] <ValeteXxX> :\
[12:03] <underdog> (jussi01): i'm not sure. i believe it is integrated into my HP.
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> underdog, try stuff, if it doesnt work roll bak and re-evaluate
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> sup ValeteXxX
[12:04] <ValeteXxX> I wanna dual boot with XP but I donno where to begin
[12:04] <ValeteXxX> ;P
[12:04] <underdog> (ActionParsnip): is there an easy way to roll back the xorg.conf file?
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> ValeteXxX, install xp first and leave space for ubuntu. if you want to share files between then make a data partition in fat32
[12:04] <ardchoille> !dual-boot
[12:04] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[12:05] <ValeteXxX> ty ty people :D
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> underdog, sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.conf_<some version number>; sudo cp ./xorg.conf_backup ./xorg.conf
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> obv xorg.conf_backup is your known good xorg.conf
[12:07] <underdog> (ActionParsnip): thanks a lot. that makes things easier.
[12:07] <underdog> much appreciated.
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> underdog, or you could move them (with version number) to a folder in ~?
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> underdog, but the main bit is cp ./xorg.conf_backup ./xorg.conf
[12:08] <underdog> (ActionParsnip): thanks. :) i'm gonna try and fix this all now.
[12:10] <drif> using x11vnc but when trying to connect from another machine via tvncviewer I get "selection_send: no send: uninitialized clients" on the server side
[12:11] <drif> any clues?
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> drif, is the server on *nix or windows?
[12:12] <drif> ActionParsnip: server on kubuntu 7.04 and client is windows machine
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> drif, can you ping the system?
[12:15] <drif> ActionParsnip: naturally, how else would I even start makign the connection? it says "08/01/2008 14:04:51 Got connection from client 192.168.1.102" and is using client protocol version 3.8
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> drif, just getting info
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> ok is there anyfirewalling on either pc blocking the connection
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> the firewall will also have to allow the vnc traffic out of your windows box
[12:17] <drif> ActionParsnip: no
[12:17] <drif> ActionParsnip: actually, a sec
[12:19] <wesley> does someone know where vthe data files from wesnoth are on my system?
[12:19] <jussi01> drif: have you tried using a different client?
[12:19] <drif> ActionParsnip: well, that was elemental.. forgot completely the windows' own firewall being on as default
[12:20] <shaffy> thanks for the help everyone.  i restored my xorg.conf file and i'm back at it
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> drif, all good now?
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> shaffy, sweet move dude
[12:20] <drif> ActionParsnip: yup
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> drif, I ask stupid questions cos its usually something small and stupid like taht
[12:21] <drif> ActionParsnip: like they say, out of sight, out of mind :D
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> drif, glad its all groovy man
[12:22] <drif> ActionParsnip: yeah, I know that scene :D I'm making those very same ones when helping others out
[12:23] <shaffy> so, i'm guessing to get the dualhead to work, it's not as easy as just going into kcontrol --> peripherals --> monitor & display  ?
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> shaffy, i think theres an xorg.conf line or two that you need. if you look at "Section display" i think you need 2
[12:24] <drif> ActionParsnip: btw, do you happen to know if the support scheme is still the same between ati vs. nvidia? I'm still using 7.04 with ATI and not quite aware
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> drif, how do you mean?
[12:25] <drif> ActionParsnip: in plain, better support for nvidia cards.
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> drif, all the way :)
[12:27] <drif>  thought so
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> drif, if i'm intending linux then i always go for nvidia
[12:28] <desio> ciao
[12:28] <wesley> can some one tell me where the location is from the standard campains from wesnoth
[12:30] <desio> Can somebody explain  me how this work?
[12:30] <Lynoure> wesley: if you install wesnoth-all, you'll get that, other campaigns and the editors. (if I understood your question)
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> desti, in what way?
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> desio sorry
[12:31] <desio> I'm a newby
[12:31] <drif> ActionParsnip: yeah, intending to buy nvidia as well - too bad this mobo has ati integrated
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> drif, get an extra card and disable onboard
[12:32] <desio> so, i understand if i have some problems i ask you?
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> desio, what do yu want to do and we'll help all we can
[12:32] <desio> this is a Ubuntu forum!
[12:32] <desio> Well
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> desio, google is good too :)
[12:32] <desio> no i like human references
[12:32] <drif> ActionParsnip: gladly, it's making audible (atleast to my ears) sound when there's activity on screen..
[12:32] <desio> so i can speack english
[12:32] <jussi01> !ask | desio
[12:32] <desio> hehe
[12:32] <ubotu> desio: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> desio, yes ask away
[12:33] <desio> ok ActionParsnip
[12:33] <desio> i use to post in kubuntu forum
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> drif, I had that with mine so i got a card. I know what you mean
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> desio, you can ask in here
[12:33] <desio> thanks ActionParsnip
[12:34] <desio> i have to go now see you
[12:34] <desio> hello!
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> see you man, peace
[12:34] <desio> peace
[12:38] <drif> ActionParsnip: is there much difference in support between nvidia models?
[12:38] <jussi01> drif: some of the newer models are not yet covered by the restricted manager
[12:39] <drif> jussi01: so which card would you suggest?
[12:39] <jussi01> !hardware | drif
[12:39] <ubotu> drif: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[12:41] <jussi01> drif: I cant suggest anything in particular, but somefriends of mine use the 7950 to good effect. ( I have a 6600gt)
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> i have onboard nvidia (www.efficientpc.co.uk) but they have changed their range
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> drif, for desktop apps just get a midrange geforce
[12:43] <jussi01> drif: anything on that list with support will be pretty good :) I suggest you go look at specs and buy whats right for you
[12:44] <drif> my main factor is sound, no noisy coolers for me :-\ but also somewhat performance
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> drif, get a fanless one then
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> inno3d do some ok fanless geforces
[12:46] <shaffy> can someone tell me how to logout of my desktop environment, so it is just command line?
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> drif, do you have pciexpress?
[12:46] <shaffy> (i.e. so xserver is shut down,i believe
[12:46] <drif> ActionParsnip: yes
[12:46] <DaSkreech> shaffy: alt+ctrl+F1 -> login -> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[12:46] <jussi01> shaffy: just press ctrl + alt + funtion key
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> drif, where are you on the globe?
[12:47] <shaffy> perfect DaSkreech.  that's what i needed.
[12:48] <shaffy> thansk jussi01
[12:48] <drif> ActionParsnip: Finland
[12:49] <jussi01> shaffy: :)
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> drif, i cant find a finnish supplier but something like http://www.compumusic.com/i259280.htm
[12:50] <jussi01> drif: where in finland are you?
[12:51] <Tm_T> jussi01: krhm
[12:51] <Tm_T> !fi | drif
[12:51] <ubotu> drif: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[12:52] <drif> Tm_T: I believe we both were using English..
[12:52] <Tm_T> drif: I know, but, it's easier, AND also you are allowed to speak more freely there
[12:52] <Tm_T> drif: tervetuloa
[12:53] <jussi01> drif: there are lots of good stores, pm me if you would like a reccomendation.
[12:53] <drif> Tm_T: hehe
[12:54]  * DaSkreech phears the Tm_T
[12:55]  * stdin giggles at Tm_T's silly hat
[12:55] <Tm_T> stdin: shall we dance?
[12:56] <stdin> but there's no music...
[12:56] <Tm_T> but there's funny hats!
[12:56]  * Tm_T hides
[12:57]  * drif plays musical saw - any requests?
[12:57] <stdin> the magic of ChanServ, all hail!
[12:57] <jussi01> now now kids...
[12:58] <drif> promotion and demotion all in same package
[13:00] <shaffy> can anyone direct me on how to install XFree86?  i've looked it up in adept manager, however, it seems the only things i can find involve the synaptics touchpad/touchscreen.
[13:00] <stdin> XFree86? we use X.Org here
[13:01] <shaffy> stdin: shit.  i must be confused then.  i was trying to get dual-monitors / dualhead to work.
[13:02] <shaffy> thought i needed that
[13:02] <DreadKnight> is the wacom mouse working in hardy yet? ^^
[13:02] <stdin> !dual-head
[13:02] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[13:02] <stdin> and watch the language please :)
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> shaffy, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFree86
[13:09] <disting> hello, totem movie player is the only one that is in full volume and other players such as mplayer wouldn't turn high enough even omn it's full volume. but on kmix everything is up high. how can i fix this please? :D thank you
[13:09] <disting> hello, totem movie player is the only one that is in full volume and other players such as mplayer wouldn't turn high enough even on it's full volume. but on kmix everything is up high. how can i fix this please? :D thank you
[13:11] <sub[t]rnl> disting➜ try adjusting levels in alsamixer
[13:11] <disting> sub[t]rnl> i did no luck, it's turned up to the max
 i am using headphones
[13:12] <sub[t]rnl> kmix is a frontend to alsamixer anyway.. duh
[13:13] <sub[t]rnl> disting➜ hrm, don't know.
[13:18] <query_k> hi all
[13:18] <query_k> I have a question regarding openoffice spreadsheet
[13:18] <jussi01> !ask | query_k
[13:18] <ubotu> query_k: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[13:19] <query_k> Anyone know how can i get the address of the cell that gave me the minimum while using the min function
[13:21] <disting> hello, totem movie player is the only one that is in full volume and other players such as mplayer wouldn't turn high enough even on it's full volume. but on alsamixer everything is up high. how can i fix this please? :D thank you
[13:22] <jussi01> !repeat | disting
[13:22] <ubotu> disting: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[13:23] <ubuntu> Are nVidia drivers for my graphic card required for me to extend my desktop to a second monitor or can I do without those drivers?
[13:23] <ubuntu> I've looked at the FAQ and at the help system within KDE but I don't see any mentions of how to exten your monitor to a second desktop
[13:24] <jussi01> !dualhead | ubuntu
[13:24] <ubotu> ubuntu: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[13:24] <ubuntu> thanks juss appreciated
[13:25] <jussi01> :)
[13:26] <jussi01> !xinerama > ubuntu
[13:26] <ubuntu> Xinerama vs twintip
[13:26] <ubuntu> ack
[13:26] <ubuntu> twinview
[13:26] <ubuntu> ahas nyone tried both?
[13:26] <ubuntu> I'm not looking for someone to babysit me through the install I 'm just wondering if there's one that has a particular feature that's useful which the other one wouldn't
[13:27] <ubuntu> I started with the livecd
[13:27] <ubuntu> it's pretty cool I have a laptop and practicly everything works out of the box
[13:27] <ubuntu> the only thing I don't understand is..
[13:27] <ubuntu> I have a bluetooth mouse/kb...
[13:28] <ubuntu> they'll only work if I have my usb dongle plugged in egven if the laptop supports usb (maybe I need to install a binary driver)
[13:28] <ubuntu> and if the dongle is in when thcomputer is booting... the mouse/kb work for 5-120 seconds but then they stop working and I have to pull out/plugin the dongle again
[13:29] <ubuntu> anyone had similar experiences?  it's not that it doesn't work.. it's just acting wierd
[13:29] <jussi01> ubuntu: hat sounds weird, I have no such issues with my bt mouse
[13:30] <jussi01> !bluetooth
[13:30] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[13:30] <jussi01> ubuntu: there might be something there
[13:31] <ubuntu> I have a logitech rig
[13:31] <ubuntu> ;/
[13:31] <ubuntu> at least it works
[13:31] <ubuntu> hehe
[13:31] <ubuntu> maybe once I go from LiveCD to he HD install it'll work better who knows
[13:31] <ubuntu> I know I'm switching soon
[13:31] <jussi01> ubuntu: my mouse is also logitech...
[13:31] <ubuntu> I just need to use the LiveCD for another week or so
[13:31] <simonova> I'm trying to install the kde4 beta files, but something went wrong, and now I have a ton of broken dependencies that apt-get -f install won't fix
[13:33] <ubuntu> bleh
[13:33] <ubuntu> why isntall something beta
[13:33] <ubuntu> unless you expect stuff to go wrong
[13:33] <simonova> it comes out in 3 days
[13:34] <ubuntu> betas are for people whoave too much time on their hand
[13:34] <ubuntu> s
[13:34] <simonova> I was assuming it'd be somewhere near stable
[13:34] <ubuntu> typically programers playing around
[13:34] <ubuntu> I hear ya
[13:35] <llutz> wait for 4.1 and ask again for stability
[13:35] <simonova> is there any way to remove broken packages?
[13:35] <llutz> apt-get remove package (maybe with force-option)
[13:37] <simonova> what is the force option?
[13:38] <llutz> simonova: man apt-get tells you (--force-yes)
[13:38] <Tm_T> nooooooo
[13:39] <Tm_T> not that force option
[13:39] <humbolto> suddenly archive files do not open embedded in my konqueror anymore. how to get it back like it was?
[13:39] <simonova> hmm, it still wants me to run apt-get -f install
[13:39] <simonova> which refuses to work
[13:40] <llutz> then try dpkg
[13:52] <waylandbill> I have firefox working with dansguardian. Is there a way to require using dansguardian? Like making firefox and konqueror not work with a direct connection?
[13:57] <humbolto> Why does Kubuntu try to cripple KDE to be as dumb as GNOME is?
[13:58] <humbolto> Why those insanely stupid default settings for konqueror?
[13:58] <humbolto> I want konqueror to be konqueror! If I'd like a GNOME-ish desktop I'd use GNOME!
[13:58] <humbolto> Give me back my KDE!
[14:00] <sub[t]rnl> sudo rm -r /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror
[14:00] <sub[t]rnl> oh, he's gone.. heh
[14:01] <sub[t]rnl> humbolto➜ sudo rm -r /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror
[14:01] <humbolto> Is that the policy? Free speach? I did just ask questions so far!
[14:02] <stdin> humbolto: you didn't ask a support question the whole time, just complained.
[14:02] <humbolto> I deinstalled the kubuntu-default-settings package.
[14:03] <humbolto> Since when this channel is just about support?
[14:03] <drif> from the very beginning?
[14:03] <sub[t]rnl> read the topic?
[14:04] <humbolto> Well, that's why I am here. I want to find support for my opinion!
[14:04] <humbolto> Do you think people who go for Kubuntu don't choose KDE for it's features? Like it's rocking file manager konqueror?
[14:05] <sub[t]rnl> i told you how to get the default KDE profile back for konqueror
[14:05] <stdin> if you have a specific question then I suggest you ask it
[14:05] <sub[t]rnl> problem solved?
[14:05] <humbolto> Well, I had. Why is it that Kubuntu thinks they need to cripple KDE?
[14:06] <sub[t]rnl> funny how adding one simplified konq profile is "crippling" kde
[14:06] <sub[t]rnl> heh
[14:06] <tuxick> why do the search results i find on the wiki point to ubuntu?
[14:06] <stdin> humbolto: you'll get no more warnings here
[14:06] <tuxick> looked for info about compiz and they tell me all sorts of gnome stuff
[14:07] <stdin> !compiz
[14:07] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[14:07] <tuxick> how come adept just showed it?
[14:07] <tuxick> ah ok no by default
[14:08] <stdin> still installable, just not install by default because it's horrible
[14:08] <humbolto> stdin: First, there were no warnings so far what so ever! Second, if anybody is interested in improving Kubuntu's acceptance, I suggest you listen to your users instead of banning them. Of course I acknowledge you are all volunteers, ...
[14:08] <humbolto> stdin: you guys just shot me in the back without any prior warnings.
[14:09] <stdin> humbolto: I didn't ban you, and the remove was a warning
[14:09] <stdin> if you feel you want to discuss it more, join #ubuntu-ops
[14:09] <humbolto> stdin: one might see it that way, another might not.
[14:10] <sub[t]rnl> he didn't ban you... thats obvious.. and he just said he warned you by removing you..
[14:10] <sub[t]rnl> only one way to see it
[14:10] <tuxick> stdin: i was just curious
[14:11] <tuxick> it's not working anyway
[14:11] <tuxick> cries about xgl
[14:12] <tuxick> ooh dear, it's all gnomish stuff?
[14:12] <stdin> what is?
[14:12] <tuxick> gentoo docs about xgl talk about gtk+
[14:13] <ForgeAus> its qtless?
[14:13] <humbolto> sub[t]rnl: yes, now that he mentioned his removal was a warning, I can see that too. But usually before you through somebody off a runnig train, you warn him in text. anyhow, not worth any further discussion.
[14:24] <bobesponja> hi
[14:25] <bobesponja> my knetworkmanager crashed and now it won't work wifi, nothing happens when my wifi card is on even if airsnort works good
[14:25] <bobesponja> any idea how I can get the wifi manager to work again?
[14:25] <teclo-> Hello, how can I tell kubuntu that i don't wanna use dolphin as file manager, but only konqueror...
[14:26] <stdin> !d3lphin
[14:26] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[14:35] <mohi> hi all
[14:36] <mohi> if I install Koffice2, would it conflicts with my current Koffice?
[14:36] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :-)
[14:37] <ubunturos> is dolphin a lightweight Konqueror ? (or sort of )
[14:37] <BluesKaj> mohi, how are you going to install it ?
[14:37] <BluesKaj> yeah sort of
[14:38] <mohi> BluesKaj: adept-manager
[14:38] <BluesKaj> ok mohi , then installing koffice 2 will prolly replace the original
[14:40] <mohi> BluesKaj: shit!
[14:40] <stdin> it won't conflict afaik
[14:40] <mohi> BluesKaj: does Koffice2 have live disk?
[14:41] <BluesKaj> mohi, I didn't say it would destroy your settings and data , it should save all that
[14:42] <mohi> cool! tanx ;)
[14:45] <andres6> good mourning
[14:48] <BluesKaj> no such thing :)
[14:56] <LjL> ubunturos: not quite... dolphin is a file manager - period - konqueror is mostly a kparts shell, i.e. it is a place where any contents provided by kparts can be displayed. so it acts as a web browser, a generic file viewer, and a file manager as well
[14:58] <ubunturos> LjL: hmm, so, could dolphin be like one of the kpart
[14:58] <ubunturos> 's content?
[14:58] <LjL> ubunturos: yes indeed. the file browsing part.
[14:59] <ubunturos> coo! - KDE rocks!
[14:59] <BluesKaj> I like konq cuz one can tab browse files and websites in one app
[15:20] <ubuntu__> Hello I am installing and partitioning manually but I have a question: Do I need a mount point for sawp?
[15:20] <ubuntu__> swap
[15:20] <llutz> ubuntu__: no
[15:20] <ubuntu__> llutz: thanks
[15:25] <ubuntu__> I wonder if I shud make a /usr partition :S What do you guys think?
[15:25] <trappist> ubuntu__: I wouldn't
[15:25] <trappist> I'd do /var and /home
[15:25] <pag> trappist, why /var ?
[15:26] <trappist> ubuntu__, pag: http://blog.linuxkungfu.org/blog/index.php?/archives/15-My-Partitioning-Preferences.html
[15:27] <trappist> pag: short answer, logs can fill up your hard drive.  if a /var partition fills up you'll be ok, but if / fills up you could have a bad day
[15:27] <pag> trappist, true, but if you have ~10GB for / and do not run any web/mail servers, then fill up is highly unlikely
[15:28] <pag> my var is < 500MB
[15:28] <lovre> hi all
[15:28] <lovre> one question, i dont see windows xp in grub menu when booting. It just dissapeared. Why is this?
[15:29] <trappist> pag: yeah that's the thing it really all depends on your usage.
[15:29] <BluesKaj> !grub
[15:29] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[15:29] <trappist> pag: but "it depends" isn't all that helpful an answer to somebody asking for advice :)
[15:29] <ubuntu__> Is it a good idea to make /home fat32 or shud I mae another partitition to share with Windows?
[15:29] <pag> lovre, have you moved the XP entry within your menu.lst?
[15:29] <llutz> trappist: then you also should consider a separate partition for /tmp
[15:29] <trappist> ubuntu__: making /home fat32 is a very, very bad idea
[15:29] <LjL> stdin, why does every incarnation of the kde4 packages break URL handling (at least from konversation) in a novel way each time? >:
[15:29] <ubuntu__> trappist: thanks :D
[15:30] <trappist> ubuntu__: back in my dual booting days I had a fat32 partition that I mounted as /data
[15:30] <ubuntu__> trappist: I am still rather clueless x_X
[15:30] <stdin> LjL: what happens?
[15:30] <lovre> pag: i didnt touch anything. I just restarted comp, and there wasnt xp in the menu anymore
[15:30] <lovre> pag: can i get it back anyhow?
[15:30] <Chousuke> hmm
[15:30] <trappist> ubuntu__: fat32 doesn't understand unix file permissions.  you'll find a lot of stuff doesn't work if /home is fat32.
[15:30] <ubuntu__> trappist: hmmm do I need to set a mount point for my fat32? :S
[15:30] <BluesKaj> lovre, pastebin your grub menu : kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst ... maybe we can help
[15:30] <pag> lovre, pastebin ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ) your menu.lst please
[15:30] <trappist> ubuntu__: if you want access to it from linux, yes.
[15:31] <lovre> omw
[15:31] <Chousuke> ubuntu should mount it automatically
[15:31] <ubuntu__> trappist: can I put a random name like /windows?
[15:31] <trappist> ubuntu__: sure
[15:31] <llutz> ubuntu__: if you are jsut a single user, mount it into $HOME/data
[15:31] <LjL> stdin: well, after the dist-upgrade i did today, i get "KDEInit could not launch 'kfmclient-kde4'.: Could not find 'kfmclient-kde4' executable.". before, URLs would simply open in Konqueror "4" instead of Konqueror "3"
[15:31] <LjL> (i'm talking while being in KDE 3)
[15:31] <Chousuke> ubuntu: you can mount any filesystem anywhere.
[15:31] <Chousuke> ubuntu: sometimes even twice.
[15:32] <Chousuke> which is pretty funky, but possible :P
[15:32] <lovre> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51208/
[15:32] <lovre> here it is
[15:32] <ubuntu__> Chousuke:  :P
[15:32] <Chousuke> the only restriction is that you must have a / :)
[15:32] <llutz> and it's nice to mount something on top of / :)
[15:32] <pag> lovre, is Windows at first partition of first hard-drive?
[15:32] <lovre> pag: there is only 1 hard drive
[15:33] <stdin> LjL: hmm, there should be a wrapper script in place for that, /me looks into it
[15:33] <pag> lovre, but is it on first partition? ( sda1 )
[15:33] <lovre> pag: no
[15:33] <ubuntu__> hmmm ubuntu partitioning thingy says I have unusable space :S
[15:33] <lovre> pag: actually, yes, its sda1
[15:33] <lovre> pag: sory
[15:34] <llutz> ubuntu__: you tried to create more than 4 primary partitions?
[15:34] <pag> lovre, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51209/ that'll do it then :)
[15:34] <lovre> pag: as i can see, there is entry missing
[15:34] <ubuntu__> llutz: yes
[15:35] <ubuntu__> llutz: swap the onde for windows / /home and I was left with some space
[15:35] <ubuntu__> *one
[15:35] <llutz> ubuntu__: you only can have 4, make one of them an extended drive with logical partitions in it
[15:35] <lovre> pag: thank you, i will restart to check it, brb
[15:35] <pag> lovre, sure. come back to tell if it worked :)
[15:35] <llutz> ubuntu__: installing linux on logical partitions works fine
[15:35] <LjL> stdin: FYI, i just tried a PDF link instead of an HTML link (still in Konversation), and it opens with KPDF "3" as it should. (also, any URL i open from within Konqueror "3" opens in Konqueror "3", but i suppose Konqueror handles its own links internally)
[15:36] <ubuntu__> llutz: :S
[15:36] <stdin> LjL: yeah, basically the wrapper script for kde4s kfmclient seems to have gone missing somehow
[15:37] <LjL> stdin: why does HTML go to kfm anyway? seems a bit counter-intuitive, shouldn't it just go to konqueror?
[15:39] <stdin> LjL: it's always been kfmclient (from kde3), kfmclient was/is used to open konqueror in the right "mode"
[15:39] <stdin> makes it start faster
[15:39] <LjL> one of those wonderful KDE hacks, i see ;P
[15:40] <stdin> otherwise it'd have to determine the mime type as it get's the content (slower)
[15:40] <LjL> stdin: well but somehow it does at least for PDF files
[15:41] <BluesKaj> I prefer konq as a browser (seems safer somehow), but wish it was abit faster at loading webpages
[15:41] <LjL> still from http:// i mean of course
[15:41] <lovre> pag: it worked, thank you very much
[15:41] <pag> lovre, np :)
[15:42] <LjL> BluesKaj: perhaps it'll improve with webkit... it's not that slow really though, if you time the loading time you'll probably find it's about on par with firefox, except that the loading feedback is different
[15:43] <LjL> nobody seems to like konqueror very much... but remember we're among the few who can claim their own html engine which is not only pretty good and pretty standards compliant, but which also has been ported to numerous successful commercial products :)
[15:43] <BluesKaj> LjL, webkit?
[15:44] <LjL> BluesKaj, webkit is the port of khtml that's been created by Apple for their (Mac OS X default) Safari browser, and which is also used in Symbian S60 devices and a couple other places. there's currently an effort to merge it back with the original KHTML, or at least to make it usable from Konqueror. i think you can try it right now with the KDE 4 packages
[15:45] <BluesKaj> well, konq isn't the most appealing eyecandy-wise , but I've learned to appreciate it's flexibility :)
[15:45] <stdin> the liveCD used webkit by default
[15:46] <BluesKaj> still running kde3.8 so i 'll wait til 4 is stable enuff for me to install without a miriad od backfixes :)
[15:46] <stdin> I've seen plasmoids embeded in webpages using webkit
[15:46] <LjL> BluesKaj: don't hold your breath ;)
[15:46] <BluesKaj> hehe LjL
[15:51] <BluesKaj> did i say kde 3.8 ?...i meant 3.5.8 of course
[15:52] <LjL> stdin: also, konqueror doesn't start from the k menu in KDE 4 (i guess for the same reason), and System Settings also doesn't load
[15:54] <stdin> LjL: konqueror doesn't run because the .desktop uses kfmclient-kde4, systemsettings for another reason
[15:56] <stmartin> hi!
[15:56] <stmartin> I have one problem, on ubuntu and kubuntu
[15:56] <stmartin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=661770
[15:57] <BluesKaj> !IPv6
[15:57] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[15:58] <stmartin> didn't I correctly disabled ipv6?
[15:58] <stmartin> is my method correct?
[15:59] <BluesKaj> stmartin, the tutorial describes the correct method to disable IPv6
[16:00] <LjL> stdin, and launching Dolphin from the K menu results in *two* Dolphin windows opening, one in /home/kde4/KDE, and one in /home/kde4/4 (both of which, of course, don't exist. /home/kde4 itself is the correct directory for my KDE 4 user)
[16:00] <stmartin> but why I can't update my linux?
[16:00] <stdin> LjL: yep, I'm working on that one as we speak
[16:01] <jussi01> skype
[16:01] <mkitzman> Hello, is there anyone who could Give me a few pointers about samba in kubuntu?
[16:01] <BluesKaj> gotta go , BBL
[16:01] <stmartin> ok, thanks BluesKaj
[16:01] <Dr_willis> mkitzman,  the samba-doc package - has several html books on the topic. :) care to ask a more specifc question?
[16:02] <mkitzman> sure
[16:03] <mkitzman> I have a kubuntu system set up with a share I would like to mount in windows.  I can see the computer on the network, but when I enter my username and password to try and mount it, it returns askinG for my password aGain
[16:03] <mkitzman> and here is the crazy part, I have added my samba user...
[16:04] <mkitzman> sorry about my "G"s, somethinG is GoinG on with my keyboard and GooGle desktop....
[16:05] <Dr_willis> mkitzman,  use 'sudo smbpasswd -a YOURUSERNAME' and give the user a samba password.
[16:06] <mkitzman> i have done this, and verrified that my username was added.
[16:06] <Dr_willis> also  - you might want to enable the home shares in the /etc/samba/smb.conf file
[16:06] <mkitzman> is this needed?
[16:06] <Dr_willis> Thats about alli have to do to get the home shares going.
[16:06] <Dr_willis> You did enable a share?
[16:06] <Dr_willis> None are enabled by default/
[16:06] <mkitzman> yes, but not my home directory.
[16:06] <Dr_willis> what one did you enable then?  there may be a mistake in how ya did it.
[16:07] <mkitzman> /var/www
[16:07] <Dr_willis> I normally just uncomment the homes.. the problem with sharing /var/www - is the owership OF that www dir.
[16:07] <Dr_willis> I dont think you can just share it - and let everyone have write permission to it.
[16:07] <mkitzman> yeah, I chanGed the ownership of that directory to me...
[16:08] <Dr_willis> I would enable the home shares - just to see that  samba is working right.. then you could always link /var/www to /home/whatever/var/www i guess :)
[16:08] <Dr_willis> or ssh in to the box and copy the files to the right place.
[16:08] <mkitzman> hmm
[16:08] <mkitzman> I could give that a whirl.
[16:08] <Dr_willis> I dont mess with web servers. so cant tell ya more. there may be a better way to do it.
[16:09] <Dr_willis> its possible that messing with who owns stuff in that dir. May break the webserver.
[16:09] <mkitzman> no problem, thanks for the advice.  :)
[16:10] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. I got a link in /var/www/mythweb to my mythtv install . :) ya could make a linkto the users home/www i guess also
[16:10] <mkitzman> hmm, that could work as well
[16:10] <mkitzman> that's a good idea
[16:10] <XxXValeteXxX> ok people so how is this for a partitioning scheme: NFTS for Windows (primary); FAT32 at /windows (primary); swap (logical); / (primary); /home (logical). What do you think? :S
[16:11] <XxXValeteXxX> the linux partiotions are using reiserfs
[16:12] <Dr_willis> well.. windows can read/write ext2/3 now a days.. and linux can read/write ntfs.. so do you need a fat32 any more?
[16:12] <lovre> can anyone recommend a program like dreamweaver, but for kubuntu, I need a wysiwyg html editor for linux, that is at leat good. ?
[16:12] <pag> !info kompozer | lovre
[16:12] <ubotu> lovre: kompozer: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.10-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 8510 kB, installed size 26160 kB
[16:13] <XxXValeteXxX> Dr_willis: I wasnt really sure of what I was doing xD
[16:13] <lovre> pag: thank you very much. Is it ok for php development also?
[16:13] <Dr_willis> lets see.. Windows XP (primary) (swap primary) (/ Primary) and (home Primary) :)
[16:13] <Dr_willis> is about what i use.
[16:13] <Dr_willis> actually i tend to put swap at the very end.
[16:14] <pag> lovre, to be honest: I have no idea at all - I've never done any webpages
[16:14] <Dr_willis> I recall that resizing partitions with the parted tools can be a little annoying - if they are not primaries.
[16:14] <Dr_willis> But i havent resized any in a long time.
[16:14] <lovre> pag: ok, thank you :D
[16:15] <Dr_willis> Or if installing Kubuntu - set up like ( windows primary) (A bunch of the HD unallocat4ed) - The installer will  allocate/fdisk/format the Unallocated space as needed.
[16:16] <XxXValeteXxX> Dr_willis: oooh I  shoudlnt have used a fat32 partition =_=
[16:16] <XxXValeteXxX> Dr_willis: oh nvm too late
[16:16] <XxXValeteXxX> xD
[16:16] <Dr_willis> XxXValeteXxX,  i dont use fat32  partitions any more.
[16:16] <Dr_willis> Unless you just want some place to keep your mp3's :) i guess
[16:18] <XxXValeteXxX> Dr_willis: oh well at least I can save my important windows stuff in another partition, just in case windows gets messed up =\
[16:26] <nexamac> anyone got any great suggestions to why i cant connect to internetpages via browsers?
[16:27] <nexamac> i can ping them, and im on IRC now, but just cant open them :|
[16:28] <mdasilva> nexamac: telnet www.somewebsite.com 80
[16:28] <mdasilva> GET /
[16:28] <mdasilva> see if you get a response
[16:28] <dthacker-work> hi, we've changed wireless keys and encryption methods at work, but KNetworkManager will net let me select the new encryption method.  How do I get it done?
[16:29] <nexamac> mdasilva: connection closed by foreign host
[16:29]  * marcx zbohom budte ... zajtra zbohom budem
[16:31] <nexamac> dthacker-work: if you man iwconfig and skip to line 207 theres a whole section on that subject :)
[16:32] <orphemal> Buenas ... primeroque nada un saludo a todos...
[16:32] <orphemal> tengo un problema con mi laptop y
[16:32] <orphemal> con la conexion Wireless....
[16:33] <BluesKaj> !es | orphemal
[16:33] <ubotu> orphemal: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:33] <orphemal> ubotu: tnx ;)
[16:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tnx ;) - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:35] <dthacker-work> nexamac: tnx, perhaps it's time to abandon the GUI
[16:36] <nexamac> ;|
[16:36] <nexamac> GUI is sweet, but terminal is effective :P
[16:37] <nexamac> hmm
[16:37] <nexamac> reboot time
[16:37] <dthacker-work> bye for now....
[16:38] <Verr> k
[16:46] <nexamac> back <3
[16:51] <luigi> ciao a tutti
[16:51] <jussi01> !it | luigi
[16:51] <ubotu> luigi: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[17:01] <W8TAH|Class> hi folks -- i have a kubuntu gusty laptop -- i use it in 3 modes -- wireless (broadcom card which does work) wired and docked (wired) i need it to be able to traverse connections etc seamlessly -- for the past 3 weeks ive been using it wirelessly without any problems - now i cant use it wired - i need help please
[17:01] <nosrednaekim> W8TAH|Class: hmmm, knetworkmanager doesn't see that you are attached to wired?
[17:02] <W8TAH|Class> lemme check
[17:03] <W8TAH|Class> does not appear to
[17:03] <W8TAH|Class> i have a link light
[17:04] <thomasnuggetts__> can anyone help me with my apache2 server? I don't know how to set up the configuration file so that when you enter my domain it goes to a specific page
[17:04] <W8TAH|Class> ive used this laptop under several variants of linux (ubuntu, gentoo and kubuntu) it worked great under fiesty but since i upgraded to gusty -- ive had lots of fits
[17:05] <W8TAH|Class> nosrednaekim: for whatever perverse reason, its now working
[17:05] <nosrednaekim> W8TAH|Class: yeah... people have been saying such things about gutsy... from that i've noticed, the .10 relase is always less stable
[17:05] <W8TAH|Class> ugh
[17:05] <W8TAH|Class> so i gotta live with 6 months of this?
[17:06] <W8TAH|Class> or can i wipe out and roll back to fiesty
[17:06] <W8TAH|Class> my gusty desktop works great
[17:06] <jussi01> W8TAH|Class: 4 months ;)
[17:07] <W8TAH|Class> gag
[17:07] <W8TAH|Class> LOL
[17:07] <Dr_willis> Gusty works here - with very few issues.
[17:08] <nosrednaekim> it just broke suspend for me, but everything else works
[17:08] <Dr_willis> note that i NEVER upgrade. I do clean installs.
[17:08] <W8TAH|Class> Dr_willis: far as i can tell -- this is the only problem ive had but its big
[17:08] <Dr_willis> i never use suspend anyway. :) no idea if that works or not.
[17:08] <W8TAH|Class> Dr_willis: id prefer to do that but in a dual boot situation thats a problem
[17:08] <BluesKaj> gutsy is ok, but i don't see many advantages over feisty
[17:08] <Dr_willis> My wireless finially sta4rted workign with gutsy.
[17:09] <Dr_willis> gutsy has more games in the repos. :)
[17:09] <BluesKaj> yeah, that's what I mean...no advantages :)
[17:09] <W8TAH|Class> LOL
[17:09] <W8TAH|Class> ya
[17:09]  * W8TAH|Class !a gamer
[17:09] <thomasnuggetts__> can anyone help?
[17:10] <BluesKaj> games ...bah humbug!...buy an xbox!
[17:10] <W8TAH|Class> thomasnuggetts__: id try the #apache room
[17:13] <stmartin> hi!
[17:13] <Dr_willis> I got an xbox. :) brother gave it to me.
[17:13] <Dr_willis> i just cant find any games for it i like.
[17:13] <Dr_willis> Hwllo stmartin
[17:14] <yao_ziyuan> remember last time i reported here that kubuntu has poor support for east asian language display and input (e.g. chinese)?
[17:14] <stmartin> I have broadband connection. I chose Networking and on the second tab, i chose Static Ip address
[17:14] <stmartin> what should I write in?
[17:14] <Dr_willis> yao_ziyuan,  no. :P
[17:14] <yao_ziyuan> someone in #ubuntu-cn told me that ubuntu has perfect support for these while kubuntu doesn't
[17:14] <Dr_willis> yao_ziyuan,  Possible. Could be somthing that GNOME has worked on more then KDE has.
[17:15] <yao_ziyuan> so my suggestion is make kubuntu as good as ubuntu in this aspect
[17:15] <stmartin> Dr_willis do u know what do I need to write in?
[17:15] <jussi01> yao_ziyuan: as you were told last time, this is not the place for that.
[17:16] <Dr_willis> stmartin,  my isp gives me a dyamic ip. If your assigns you a static ip. then you need toenter the ip they gave you.
[17:16] <jussi01> yao_ziyuan: please file a bug
[17:16] <stmartin> I have dynamic IP
[17:16] <yao_ziyuan> Dr_willis: yes, particularly, KDE's support for east asian language input is via a program called SKIM while GNOME uses GIM, and SKIM sucks very much compared to GIM
[17:16] <Dr_willis> stmartin,  then you dont want to set  a static ip.
[17:16] <stmartin> than, what should I do?
[17:16] <Dr_willis> stmartin,  if its dynamic.. then its NOt static.. You set it to use dynamic ip. You dont write in anything
[17:17] <stmartin> but, I must choose Static Ip or DHCP
[17:17] <Dr_willis> You set the system to use the dhcp server.
[17:17] <yao_ziyuan> jussi01: give me the bug filing url and i'd like to drop a few lines
[17:17] <BluesKaj> !launchpad
[17:17] <ubotu> Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[17:17] <jussi01> !bug | yao_ziyuan
[17:17] <ubotu> yao_ziyuan: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[17:17] <Dr_willis> NOW youa re asking the right question.. :) - Not static , only other optiuon is to use dhcp. :)
[17:19] <stmartin> Dr_willis what to choose?
[17:19] <stmartin> Static Ip or DHCP?
[17:19] <Dr_willis> stmartin,  you said theres a dhcp button.. since youa re using dynamic - thats using dhcp.
[17:19] <Dr_willis> which i though twas the default anyway.
[17:20] <stmartin> I tried several times before with DHCP, but it seems like my connection isn't working properly
[17:20] <ScorpKing> how can i hide and unhide the menubar in apps?
[17:21] <Dr_willis> Thats possible..  stmartin  or there could be some other quirk/thing going on.  You are connected wired from the network card on the pc. to the cable modem? or whats your exact setup?
[17:21] <stmartin> i have switch, and adsl modem
[17:21] <W8TAH|Class> back in a moment -- testing something
[17:21] <stmartin> adsl modem (d-link)
[17:21] <yao_ziyuan> also,
[17:21] <yao_ziyuan> another question:
[17:22] <yao_ziyuan> now i found that KDE's clock can use the digital font
[17:22] <yao_ziyuan> i think it should be default
[17:22] <yao_ziyuan> it's a big selling point for me
[17:22] <stmartin> I disabled ipv6 also
[17:22] <stmartin> because of slow connection
[17:23] <stmartin> then I get advice that I should change something in my networking panel
[17:23] <stmartin> so I tried with Static IP address and seems it is working perfectly
[17:24] <stmartin> I have Ethernet connection
[17:24] <yao_ziyuan> an open source project's bug reporting and fixing process is much more efficient than a closed source one like Windows, isn't it?
[17:25] <BluesKaj> yao_ziyuan, sometimes one can actually find solutions in the bug report pages :)
[17:26] <yao_ziyuan> diff files...
[17:26] <yao_ziyuan> patches
[17:28] <ScorpKing> found it. control + m. nvm
[17:30] <chris062689> Hello.
[17:30] <jussi01> !hi
[17:30] <jussi01> oh, bot gone.
[17:30] <jussi01> hi chris062689
[17:32] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[17:34] <stmartin> Dr.willis are u there?
[17:40] <yao_ziyuan> the digital clock style is so cool...
[17:52] <Caarrie|mac> anyone know why i have the process date running at between 0 and 100% cpu
[17:56] <DaSkreech> Ok
[17:56] <DaSkreech> I have an issue with a Buntu booting
[17:56] <DaSkreech> it reached dhcpbd and just stops
[17:56] <DaSkreech> even if I start it manually
[17:59] <DaSkreech> if you look at it without the splash 1/2 the time the dhcdbd generates an [OK] the other it doesn't but regardless it simply stops there
[17:59] <DaSkreech> if I manually start dbus and dhcdbd it works fine
[17:59] <DaSkreech> if I manually start the DM (slated to start right after dhcdbd in the startup list) that also starts fine
[18:06] <yao_ziyuan> filed two...
[18:06] <yao_ziyuan> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/181309
[18:06] <yao_ziyuan> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/181300
[18:12] <_ubuntu> hi
[18:13] <thedoc2097> Hi people there! I need some help with the grub bootloader! Somebody there that knwos something about it
[18:13] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  ive seen if the dhcp server isent responding - where it can take a min. or more for it go timeout. But  it MAY be hanging at whatever is right past the dhcp setp
[18:13] <DaSkreech> Sat there for an houe
[18:13] <DaSkreech> hour
[18:13] <_ubuntu> who?
[18:14] <DaSkreech> and again it does it even if I start it manually
[18:14] <_ubuntu> haha
[18:14] <DaSkreech> !grub | thedoc2097
[18:14] <ubotu> thedoc2097: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[18:14] <_ubuntu> hi ppl there
[18:14] <thedoc2097> !grub
[18:15] <_ubuntu_> any Linux user?
[18:15] <Dr_willis> This channel is full of linux users.
[18:15] <_ubuntu_> good :D
[18:15] <Dr_willis> Hot Linux Chix even! :)
[18:15] <thedoc2097> Sorry butthis won´t help me. Because the /boot directory of my distro is on another partition and i don´t know how to link to this directory
[18:15] <thedoc2097> distro is on hda3 and /boot is on hda4
[18:15] <Dr_willis> thedoc2097,  normally you mount /boot to the proper place on /
[18:15] <DaSkreech> thedoc2097: So?
[18:15] <_ubuntu_> u know its my 1st time to use linux and iam working from the booting CD too :D
[18:15] <Dr_willis> which is /boot :)
[18:16] <DaSkreech> _ubuntu_: Welcome
[18:16] <_ubuntu_> thanx :)
[18:16] <_ubuntu_> i have final exam tomorrow in linux
[18:16] <thedoc2097> it´s a silly thing, but i have no other possibility as to put the boot directory to an another partition, because the distro i installed is a live distro and uses all the space of the partition
[18:16] <Dr_willis> the only real differance in the grub configs - i think is the location of the root directive.. actually that may point to the root partition also.
[18:16] <_ubuntu_> i got so curs to use every thing in it
[18:17] <Dr_willis> Many disrtos set up seperate /boot partitions
[18:17] <_ubuntu_> iam actually a windows lover , but i start to love linux
[18:18] <stmartin> Hi! Why I have double ubuntu's when I boot ?
[18:18] <Dr_willis> loving windows is like having an 'abusive lover'
[18:18] <_ubuntu_> me and me :)
[18:18] <thedoc2097> yeah, thats my problem. When I installed the backtrack3 distro there was no /boot directory on the distros partition, but if i boot from cd there is a boot directory, so i copied the /boot directory to hda4
[18:18] <Dr_willis> stmartin,  you mean 2  Grub entries for ubuntu in the grub menu?
[18:18] <stmartin> yes
[18:18] <_ubuntu_> but u know in programs its so easy to work in windows
[18:18] <Dr_willis> stmartin,  one for each kernel, and options for a recovery mode.
[18:18] <thedoc2097> and i don´t know what path i should use in grub /dev/hda4/boot/vmlinuz doesn´t work
[18:18] <stmartin> There are 4
[18:19] <stmartin> 2 pairs same
[18:19] <Dr_willis> _ubuntu_,  it can be.. but it depends on the task
[18:19] <_ubuntu_> in networks in prefer linux ,
[18:19] <Dr_willis> stmartin,  Thats normal.
[18:19] <stmartin> Dr_willis, which I should click on?
[18:19] <_ubuntu_> yes exactly
[18:19] <stmartin> The 1 or the 3-rd?
[18:19] <Dr_willis> stmartin,  try the first one? logically that would be the newest.
[18:19] <DaSkreech> thedoc2097: You should probably read the grub entry
[18:19] <_ubuntu_> ok guys , nice to see u here tonight
[18:19] <thedoc2097> ???
[18:20] <_ubuntu_> keep the success
[18:20] <Dr_willis> Grub is the kind of tool - its worth learning/reading and learning well.
[18:20] <stmartin> and what will happen if I click on the 3-rd?
[18:20] <DaSkreech> stmartin: The newest on unless it gives you issues then the 3rd
[18:20] <thedoc2097> I can edit the grub entry that´s not the problem, but I am not sure what path i have to put in
[18:20] <_ubuntu_> Bye :)
[18:20] <DaSkreech> stmartin: You boot up in a old kernel (by default )
[18:20] <DaSkreech> _ubuntu_: come back soon
[18:20] <thedoc2097> daskreech : you have any idea which path i have to use if the /boot directory is on hda4
[18:21] <_ubuntu_> i will after finals :)
[18:21] <DaSkreech> hd(0,4) ?
[18:21] <stmartin> but I have the updates, again on the 3-rd
[18:21] <thedoc2097> no, hd0,3
[18:21] <_ubuntu_> thanx for ur kind DaSkreech :)
[18:21] <stmartin> I think they are the same
[18:21] <DaSkreech> thedoc2097: Ah right correct :)
[18:21] <thedoc2097> lol :-)
[18:21] <DaSkreech> stmartin: they would be
[18:22] <stmartin> so why there are double same pair?
[18:22] <DaSkreech> stmartin: Linux is good like that. as little discrimination as possible
[18:22] <DaSkreech> stmartin: One is older
[18:22] <stmartin> so the 3-rd is older?
[18:22] <Dr_willis> hda4 would be  hd0,3 in grub terminology
[18:22] <DaSkreech> if the new one does something horribly wrong and breaks your machine you can just choose the old one and continue doing work
[18:22] <Dr_willis> stmartin,  look at the version #'s on the kernels.. I imagine one is higher.. that should be the first one
[18:23] <DaSkreech> stmartin: Right
[18:23] <Dr_willis> It keeps an entry for ALL your kernels.. just in case one dosent work.
[18:23] <DaSkreech> stmartin: It's a safety feature
[18:23] <Dr_willis> and No it dosent take up a lot of disk space. :P
[18:23] <DaSkreech> stmartin: Suppose you install a new kernel and it breaks say your video card  driver?
[18:23] <stmartin> ok, thanks. And I still haven't solved the mistery with the network?
[18:24] <Dr_willis> actually if you used envy, or automatix, installing a new kernel often WILL break the video card driver.
[18:24] <DaSkreech> You couldn't do anything but now you can just go back to the one that works and there you go
[18:24] <Dr_willis> so dont use those. :)
[18:24] <stmartin> I tried with DHCP and it didn't work
[18:24] <stmartin> I tried with Static IP, and it works
[18:24]  * DaSkreech thanks Dr_willis for the good plug :)
[18:24] <Dr_willis> if it works.. whats the problem?
[18:24] <stmartin> but I have dynamic Ip address, I am 100% sure
[18:24] <stmartin> and do u know how to disconnect
[18:25] <Dr_willis> disconnect? why bother?
[18:25] <stmartin> I connect through terminal
[18:25] <stmartin> pon dsl-provider
[18:25] <Dr_willis> You on dialup?
[18:25] <stmartin> no, broadband connection
[18:25] <Dr_willis> dsl is 24/7 isent it
[18:25] <DaSkreech> YOu can dialup into broadband
[18:25] <stmartin> I started pon dsl-provider
[18:25] <stmartin> in the terminal
[18:25] <tzd> anyone using videopods here please?
[18:25] <Dr_willis> I have no knowledge/expeience with DSL other then to hear.. its a PITA. :)
[18:25] <stmartin> I tried poff to disconnect, but didn't want to disconnect the connection
[18:26] <Dr_willis> !dsl
[18:26] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[18:26] <stmartin> ok, thanks
[18:26] <Dr_willis> and thats the extent of my DSL experience. :)
[18:27] <w8tah_> hi folks - how does one configure the graphical greeter in kdm under gusty?
[18:28] <w8tah_> mine currently has the user list but i want the one without it
[18:28] <Dr_willis> !find kdm
[18:28] <ubotu> Found: kdm, kde-kdm-themes, kdmtheme
[18:28] <Dr_willis> Install the kdmtheme tool and some themes for it.. and have fun
[18:28] <Dr_willis> :)
[18:28] <w8tah_> kewl
[18:28] <Dr_willis> I tend to favor simple looking themes for kdm.
[18:29] <w8tah_> nods
[18:29] <Dr_willis> hmm,, too bad ubotu  dont poste the  found: info without the commas, you could just cut/paste the list :)
[18:30] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: talk to seveas
[18:31] <w8tah_> Dr_willis: one more question - once that theme manager is installed -- where is it hidden?
[18:31] <solid_liq> Dr_willis, hey, did you ever find ##linux-coders?
[18:31] <DaSkreech> w8tah_: System settings
[18:31] <w8tah_> thanks
[18:32] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: any ideas on the boot up issue?
[18:33] <voonte> Hm, so I tried to install the minimal cd of gutsy to get a minimal system. I deselected all options (lamp server, desktop etc) but still OpenOffice gets installed.
[18:33] <voonte> Is it possible to install a minimal system any other way?
[18:34] <mathias> test åäö
[18:35] <Minataku> Heya, Dr_Willis
[18:35] <Minataku> Dr_Willis: What's up?
[18:36] <Dr_willis> W8TAH,  i run the tool kdmtheme i belive.. its in the settings menus/panels/tools somewhere
[18:36] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  got the week off.. and we are having 100 year floods. :)
[18:36] <Minataku> Dr_Willis: Ack
[18:36] <Dr_willis> and the bank account is on 0 :(
[18:36] <Minataku> Dr_Willis: Double Ack
[18:36] <Minataku> lol
[18:37] <Dr_willis> and the fire FINLALLY realized why i told her not to slurge on Xmas!  and of course its MY fault.
[18:37] <Dr_willis> the wife i mean.. :) not fire.. heh
[18:37] <Minataku> Dr_Willis: Doing anything with your week off?
[18:37] <Dr_willis> Cleaning house.. and cleaning house.. and cleaning house.
[18:37] <Minataku> Triple ack.
[18:37] <Dr_willis> so far shes rearanged her room 5 times. I aint got anything else done. she yells at me every 5 min. so... DONT get married.
[18:37] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, gonna fire the wife ? :)
[18:38] <Minataku> I'll be getting a broken DECpc 433 and a working HP 700/RX X Terminal on Thursday
[18:38] <Minataku> :D
[18:38] <Dr_willis> Inlaws keep comming over wanting to play Dominos.. so i never get anyting done in the afternoon. either. -
[18:39] <JuJuBee> I have a runaway mysql query (i think) and mysql server not responding.... How do I restart mysql properly?
[18:39] <Dr_willis> BRB..gotta do a little work.
[18:39] <BluesKaj> wifey and me have been together for 43 yrs...we have our own pc's in seperate rooms...it works, somehow :)
[18:40] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  the problem is every 4 min... shes yelling at me to come in ther and do somthing.. she just sits there and thinks about how to rearange her room... or wants a drink.. or wants to ask me somthing... or.....
[18:40] <Dr_willis> she dosent realize that shes doing this however.. :)
[18:41] <shadowhywind> Hay all does anyone know of the settings needed to get WPA2 to work with wpa_supplicant?
[18:41] <Dr_willis> I have to go to work to rest up.
[18:41] <Dr_willis> :)
[18:41] <stdin> !wpa
[18:41] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[18:41] <shadowhywind> thanks
[18:42]  * DaSkreech chuckles
[18:43] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, yup, i know the feeling ...wife still works (thank God) , but it won't be long til she retires too ...then the fun will really start
[18:44] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  get an RV and travel! :)
[18:44] <Dr_willis> Then drive away when shes looking at the grand canyon!
[18:44] <BluesKaj> haha!
[18:44]  * Dr_willis quickly clears the screen
[18:44] <JuJuBee> Can either of you help me with a mysql question ?
[18:44] <JuJuBee> http://pastebin.com/m7d286c2e
[18:44] <Dr_willis> JuJuBee,  we can try/ im not too good at myswl however.
[18:45] <BluesKaj> the GC is looooong drive from here
[18:45] <Dr_willis> Ido have a book on MySql. :) it was in the bargin bin
[18:45] <DaSkreech> argh!
[18:46] <Dr_willis> But that problem is over my head. :)
[18:46] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone know when they plan on releasing a Kubuntu Hardy Alpha with KDE4?
[18:46] <bigon> hi
[18:46] <JuJuBee> Thanks anyway...
[18:46] <Dr_willis> I would start small and build up with simpleer queries. and see if  thers somthing fundamental you are doing wrong.
[18:47] <BluesKaj> FunnyLookinHat, that question remains a mystery or closely guarded secret , it seems :(
[18:47] <bigon> is it normal that I get -DDATA_INSTALL_DIR=/usr/share/kde4/apps when building decibel?
[18:47] <FunnyLookinHat> BluesKaj, heh, figures   : )
[18:47] <Minataku> Given the direction *buntu has been taking lately, it's probably a "closely guarded secret"
[18:48] <Minataku> aka "Needless proprietarism"
[18:48] <Minataku> But then I'm getting angry again
[18:48] <Minataku> lol
[18:48] <Minataku> Sorry
[18:49] <steveire> Hi. Can QtParted resize a vista partition cleanly?
[18:50] <BluesKaj> FunnyLookinHat, I'm a bit reluctant to try kde4 anyway, after seeing all the probs ppl are having with it ...pll like me who are basically CLI neophites and filesystem ignoramases :)
[18:53] <BluesKaj> err ignoramuses
[18:53] <Dr_willis> But its the latest and greatest! and ya just gotta have the newest of everything!
[18:54] <kristian_> hi an alle
[18:54] <kristian_> hi to al
[18:54] <Dr_willis> Im suprised we dont see more  firefox 3. questions actually :)
[18:54] <BluesKaj> never been an early adopter ...comes from being cheap and not rich mostly :)
[18:55] <BluesKaj> I have FF3 beta running fine in windows
[18:55] <BluesKaj> beta2
[18:58] <Dr_willis> yep. i just notice a lot of my extensions dont work. :(
[18:58] <Dr_willis> but they will eventually
[18:58] <JuJuBee> Dr_willis : got my answer from #mysql, someone finally answered.  Thanks anyway.
[18:59] <bluestorm> hello
[18:59] <Dr_willis> of coruse it seems that  a lotof the extensions i did use. are getting integerated into firefox. :)  enhanced tabs and so forth
[18:59] <bluestorm> do you know where i could get information about the kde4 packaging status ?
[18:59] <DaSkreech> JuJuBee: What was it?
[18:59] <bluestorm> (or at best, link to actually usable packages)
[19:00] <BluesKaj> I noticed FF3 works ok but doesn't launch from a desktop icon on my setup
[19:00] <JuJuBee> I needed to specify the relation between the tables using a JOIN.  Since I neglected to, I was getting the product of results from all tables (22+ million) rather than the 29 I expected.
[19:00] <TunaTom> bluestorm: but, but... kde4 is to be relased on 11 !?!
[19:01] <bluestorm> yes but it has been tagged already
[19:01] <ntweat> hii
[19:01] <bluestorm> so they could be packages around
[19:02] <TunaTom> bluestorm: _If_ they are already packed, I would be willing to bet, no one would publish them before the official release !
[19:02] <TunaTom> bluestorm: That would kinda spoil the party, wouldn't it?
[19:02] <bluestorm> hm
[19:02] <bluestorm> that's a point of view
[19:02] <bluestorm> but my use case is not "spoiling"
[19:02] <bluestorm> i'm writing a local press release
[19:03] <bluestorm> and would be happy to include a "url to the ubuntu packages"
[19:03] <bluestorm> i'll publish it on 11 too, but i can't wait for the ubuntu guys to decid to publish them to write my paper
[19:03] <sd132> is anybody else  having problems with kopete logging into yahoo?
[19:04] <DaSkreech> bluestorm: join the devel team then :)
[19:04] <bluestorm> so if i don't see anything a couple of day before 11, i just won't speak of the ubuntu packages
[19:04] <TunaTom> bluestorm: Oh, well, in that case you should definitely visit #kde4-devel . Perhaps jpwhiting or daskreech can advise you.
[19:04] <ntweat> i cant log onto anything using kopete
[19:04] <TunaTom> (oh, he's already there :)
[19:04] <DaSkreech> :-)
[19:04] <bluestorm> (of course i'll say "you can install them with your distro by the usual procedure" or something like that, but having a real link would have been nice)
[19:04] <bluestorm> hm
[19:05] <stdin> bluestorm: kde4 packaging status: "on target"
[19:05] <ntweat> i m having problem with ntfs...
[19:05] <sd132> well then i guess its time to remove kopete
[19:06] <TunaTom> bluestorm:  Normally the kde-packages are published at kubuntu.com . A link to their page will be a save bet.
[19:06] <ntweat> ya i jst installed Kubuntu again... m waiting for updates
[19:06] <ntweat> pidgin is better than kopete
[19:06] <thomas`> The version-upgrade "tool" in adept Manager is not working well, the sources are not found (404) due this howto: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade
[19:06] <stdin> TunaTom: no, the'll be on the kubuntu-members-kde4 ppa
[19:07] <stdin> after the'll drip into -backports
[19:07] <DaSkreech> ntweat: Yep but I give the Kopete team some props
[19:07] <jackcy> has anybody worked with pykde anf konfigskeleton? i need help there
[19:07] <jughead> how do I kill compiz and make sure it doesn't start?  I started it and restarted my laptop (I didn't put anything in ~/.kde/Autostart) and it keeps starting.  that would be ok except knetworkmanager is running in the upper left corner instead of the system tray, and my power settings manager is gone completely
[19:07] <bluestorm> hm TunaTom, i'll do that at least, thanks
[19:08] <stdin> jughead: use "kwin --replace" to stop compiz, then just logout and back in to test if it stops restarting it
[19:09] <ntweat> i need some help with ntfs any1??
[19:09] <jughead> stdin, I did that command and logged out and tried restarting it won't stop
[19:09] <TunaTom> stdin: Thanks, but I thought about a (short) release note and install instructions :)
[19:09] <hydrogen> uninstall compiz :)
[19:09] <stdin> TunaTom: there will be, when 4.0.0 is released ;)
[19:10] <jughead> hydrogen, should I do that while it's running?  I don't want a scneario were compiz wants to start but can't so I don't start x at all
[19:10] <TunaTom> stdin: Yes, that's what I told bluestorm :)
[19:10]  * TunaTom is doomed
[19:10] <hydrogen> jughead: if it can't start kwin should I think..
[19:11] <thomas`> Version Upgrade in the Adept Manager: http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/459073
[19:11] <stdin> jughead: you could try removing the files in ~/.kde/share/config/session (if any of them look like something to do with compiz)
[19:12] <EliaNosft> hola
[19:12] <EliaNosft> Alguien habla español
[19:12] <mathias> hi all
[19:12] <stdin> !es
[19:12] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[19:12] <mathias> linux newbie here
[19:12] <EliaNosft> ok
[19:12] <EliaNosft> Gracias, Adios
[19:14] <TunaTom> hi mathias. gotta problem to solve?
[19:14] <stdin> thomas`: why do you have archive.kubuntu.de in there?
[19:14] <mathias> TunaTom:  i guess therwill be plenty :)
[19:14] <ntweat> mathia even i m a newbie
[19:15] <jughead> I'm getting rid of it
[19:15] <TunaTom> ntweat: in some regard, we're all newbies :)
[19:15] <mathias> first i want to install firefox
[19:15] <thomas`> stdin: dunno. how to change that?
[19:15] <ntweat> tuna: can u help me with a problem??
[19:15] <thomas`> stdin: change into what?
[19:15] <TunaTom> mathias: did you have a look at adept?
[19:15] <mathias> in adept i find it but it wants the cd  . do i realy need it ?
[19:15] <ntweat> mathia: install it via ur adept manager!!
[19:16] <TunaTom> ntweat: I'll do my very best .
[19:16] <mathias> daamn i need e mouspad brb
[19:16] <stdin> thomas`: open adept then go to Adept -> Manage Repositories and remove them, or (if there are no others) use de.archive.ubuntu.com
[19:17] <ntweat> tuna: i was first on windows now i m shifting all my data is still on NTFS.. kubuntu is detecting the drives bt unable to mount them
[19:17] <TunaTom> mathias: do you know how to start the adept manager?
[19:17] <TunaTom> ntweat: are you comfortable with the console?
[19:18] <mathias> TunaTom:  yes and i find a couple of firefox lines
[19:18] <ntweat> tuna: ya.. i was using feisty for a week or so b4 shifting to gusty
[19:19] <mathias> when i try to aply changes he wants the cd .. do i realy need it ?
[19:19] <TunaTom> mathias: No.
[19:19] <ntweat> mathia: as i did it in the old version it directly dwnloaded from the net!!
[19:19] <ntweat> tuna: what may the prob??
[19:19] <TunaTom> mathias: It's just that the CD is still registered as repository.
[19:20] <thomas`> stdin: same 404 errors now with de.archive.ubuntu.com
[19:20] <mathias> TunaTom:  my english suck (from sweden).. repository ?
[19:20] <TunaTom> ntweat: try to drop to the console and mount the partition by hand.
[19:21] <ntweat> tuna: dint get u...
[19:21] <stdin> thomas`: you sure? I'm looking at http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz now
[19:21] <ntweat> tuna: can u explain??
[19:21] <TunaTom> mathias: The places where programs (and other stuff) is stored as packages.
[19:21] <mathias> TunaTom:  tnx
[19:22] <mathias> is thehe a easy way to upgrade  lik win update on kubuntu ?
[19:22] <mathias> hate this keybord
[19:22] <TunaTom> ntweat: When you try to double-click the ntfs-device in konqueror or dolphin, it says something about permissions?
[19:22] <TunaTom> mathias: lol
[19:22] <ntweat> mathias: adept automatically updates all s/w
[19:22] <TunaTom> mathias: win update?
[19:23] <ntweat> tunatom: getting this...
[19:23] <ntweat> hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[19:23] <TunaTom> mathias: maybe ou want to remove the unneeded CD-Repository?
[19:23] <mathias> TunaTom:  newer ever tryed windows ? :P
[19:24] <ntweat> mathias: when u get used to kubuntu its better than windows any day!!!
[19:24] <TunaTom> ntweat: yes, that's permissions. Open a console and
[19:24] <TunaTom> less /etc/fstab
[19:24] <mathias> ntweat:  for some .. i only trying for fun ..
[19:25] <TunaTom> mathias: Well, yes, but you can't properly update a windows installation, can you?
[19:25] <mathias> TunaTom:  how do i remowe cd-res...
[19:25] <ntweat> tuna: here is what came...
[19:26] <ntweat> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[19:26] <ntweat> #
[19:26] <ntweat> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[19:26] <ntweat> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[19:26] <ntweat> # /dev/sdb10
[19:26] <ntweat> UUID=ace24c67-cb8d-448e-9ef0-ad48f0696e6d /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[19:26] <ntweat> # /dev/sdb9
[19:26] <ntweat> UUID=86b9ecb6-46b9-4b6e-a7bb-f9d118c22c58 none            swap    sw              0       0
[19:26] <ntweat> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0       0
[19:26] <ntweat> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto,exec 0       0
[19:26] <ntweat> /etc/fstab (END)
[19:26] <TunaTom> mathias: sorry, I have a german version, but it should be in the "Adept" menu...
[19:26] <LjL> !paste | ntweat
[19:26] <ubotu> ntweat: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[19:27] <ntweat> sorry ubotu
[19:27] <TunaTom> ntweat: Do you know on which device your ntfs partition resides?
[19:28] <ntweat> yup!!
[19:28] <mathias> TunaTom:  find it.. :)
[19:28]  * inteliwasp finaly got a working linux os back on his laptop...
[19:28] <ntweat> tuna: yup...
[19:28] <TunaTom> mathias: in the second tab, the top entry is about the cd repository. Just uncheck it and close the configuration. You won't be asked for the cd again.
[19:29] <thomas`> stdin: http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/459243
[19:29] <TunaTom> ntweat: try to mount that partition from the console.
[19:29] <thomas`> the ../ubuntu/ is missing ?
[19:29] <ntweat> tuna: i dont knw any commands...
[19:29] <TunaTom> ntweat: like so: sudo mount /dev/DEVICENAME /mnt
[19:29] <DaSkreech> hi mathias
[19:29] <mathias> anyone use a nice msn messenger clone  ?
[19:29] <mathias> hi DaSkreech
[19:29] <TunaTom> ntweat: no fears
[19:30] <DaSkreech> !info amsn | mathias
[19:30] <ubotu> mathias: amsn: An MSN messenger written in Tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.97RC1+dfsg-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 3371 kB, installed size 10956 kB
[19:30] <ntweat> tuna: the partions r on the same drive as the linux
[19:30] <ntweat> mathais: use pidgin
[19:31] <TunaTom> ntweat: what does ls /dev/sdb* say?
[19:31] <TunaTom> ntweat: Or better: What is the label of the partition in dolphin or konqueror ?
[19:32] <stdin> thomas`: you forgot the "/ubuntu/" at the end of the line, it should be "deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty ...."
[19:32] <hydrogen> I need my normal user to be able to read /dev/input/event1.. whats the "proper way" to do this?
[19:32] <ntweat> New Volume
[19:32] <ntweat> tuna: new volume
[19:33] <ntweat> tuna: i have 6 partions by that name
[19:33] <Dr_willis> relabel them :)
[19:33] <ntweat> tried that
[19:34] <Dr_willis> these are windows? or Linux filesystems?
[19:34] <kiiz> hi all. i use synaptic packages manager.i try tp update and it says some package cant be authenticated.pls what is wrong and how can i solve it
[19:34] <ntweat> dr: windows NTFS
[19:34] <Dr_willis> You proberly dont have the keys imported for some of the enabled repos.
[19:35] <Dr_willis> i thouhg it asked if you wanted to still install them.. you can just have it install..
[19:35] <ntweat> dr: explain newbie here
[19:35] <hydrogen> currently I'm just chowning the event1 device to something my user can read
[19:35] <hydrogen> but
[19:35] <hydrogen> thats pretty ugly
[19:35] <Dr_willis> ntweat,  i recall some linux tool that can  relable the ntfs disks.. I just change their labels from windows however.
[19:35] <TunaTom> ntweat: if you right click the partition and open the properties, have a look at the meta-info tab. There is a "Device File"
[19:35] <hydrogen> and it doesn't remember if atfer a reboot
[19:36] <TunaTom> hydrogen: It's not about an ugly label but mounting the partition.
[19:36] <hydrogen> I'm not talking to you!
[19:36] <TunaTom> hydrogen: oops
[19:36] <Dr_willis> for external/usb ntfs drives - i always just manually put a proper fstab line in fstab for them.
[19:36] <DaSkreech> !katapult | mathias
[19:36] <ubotu> mathias: katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[19:36] <ntweat> tuna: jst 2 tabs mounting and general
[19:37] <Dr_willis> External ext3 mount find here automaticially. but ntfs always has that error uid 1000 issue
[19:37] <stdin> hydrogen: probably (guessing) something like ' "KERNEL=="event[0-9]*", MODE="0666" ' in /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules
[19:37] <ntweat> tuna: jst 2 tabs mounting and general
[19:37] <hydrogen> stdin: thx
[19:37] <TunaTom> ntweat: Any of these tabs contains the "Device file" ?
[19:38] <thomas`> stdin: Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/Release Unable to find expected entry  i18n-de/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[19:38] <mathias> WOW... is there anyway i can regret somthing i done ??
[19:38] <mathias> i tried to change som icons and stuff
[19:38] <mathias> a theme of som kind
[19:38] <ntweat> tuna: nopes
[19:38] <mathias> now i missing plenty
[19:39] <stdin> thomas`: post your sources.list to pastebin
[19:39] <TunaTom> ntweat: Okay, back to the console then. What does ls /dev/sdb* say ?
[19:40] <ntweat> tuna: its long whr shud i show it to u??
[19:40] <ntweat> tuna: sorry
[19:40] <kiiz> pls why does synaptic report that marked packages can't be athenticated
[19:40] <ntweat> :tuna: it says... bash: /dev/sdb: Permission denied
[19:41] <thomas`> stdin: thanks a lot, now it works. i dropped some lines.
[19:41] <mathias> damn.. where did i rezise my panel meny
[19:42] <TunaTom> ntweat: Hmm. Mounting the partition is easy. You just have to know the device file.
[19:42] <TunaTom> ntweat: To be honest, I have no idea on how to easily find out which device.
[19:43] <ntweat> tuna is it smething like sda??
[19:44] <TunaTom> ntweat: most probably.
[19:44] <TunaTom> how many sda do you have?
[19:44] <ntweat> tuna got them
[19:44] <TunaTom> which one is it?
[19:44] <ntweat> tuna its sdb8
[19:45] <TunaTom> then in console type sudo mount /dev/sdb8 /mnt
[19:45] <ntweat> ans 1 sda1
[19:45] <Dr_willis> You might want to make some better mountpoint dirs. :) like /media/sdb8 and /media/sda1
[19:45] <TunaTom> ntweat: one after another.
[19:46] <Dr_willis> of course ifyou want the users to access them - then you may need extra options also.
[19:46] <TunaTom> Dr_willis: Good point.
[19:46] <Dr_willis> and if you want it to be perment - you gotta edit the fstab file.
[19:46] <ntweat> tuna the problem is that i dint shutdown windows i hibernated it
[19:46] <Dr_willis> and if its ntfs - and you want them writeable - you want to use the ntfs-3g options/filesystem....
[19:46] <TunaTom> Dr_willis: First finding out which is the correct partition
[19:46]  * Dr_willis ran out of ands. :)
[19:46] <Dr_willis> sudo fdisk -l  | less
[19:46] <Dr_willis> and look :) i guess.
[19:47] <TunaTom> Dr_willis: afterwards making permanent changes.
[19:47] <ntweat> brb guys got to shutdown windows
[19:47] <TunaTom> ntweat: bye
[20:00] <testablu> italiano
[20:00] <stdin> !it
[20:01] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[20:03] <ntweat> yipeee
[20:05] <ntweat> HELP
[20:11] <sebbar> hi, how do I get a list of my laptop's hardware?
[20:12] <BluesKaj> lspci
[20:12] <sebbar> BluesKaj: ok cool, what about processor/ram?
[20:13] <BluesKaj> sebbar, in the k-menu choose kinfocenter
[20:14] <BluesKaj> under system
[20:14] <jughead> hey I plugged in a usb external hard drive before I left home and tried to access it (I use it through freenx) and nothing showed up.  dmesg output is odd... too long here's the pastebin:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51253/ any ideas?
[20:14] <sebbar> BluesKaj: great tnx
[20:14] <BluesKaj> np, sebbar
[20:22] <mathias> anyone know where to find stuff like this clock and menus below it onn this WP
[20:22] <mathias> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Deesktop?content=39657
[20:24] <DreadKnight> mathias: that's the famous cairo clock dude :D
[20:24] <mathias> is it superkaramba      ?
[20:24] <mathias> DreadKnight: . linux newbie :)
[20:25] <DreadKnight> mathias: search in repository for it :D it's not superkaramba.... well at least that's my thought about those images...
[20:26] <DreadKnight> mathias: says there "karambs: right top chrome clock" heh
[20:27] <mathias> ahh :)
[20:27] <mathias> superkaramba   looks cool ..
[20:27] <mathias> now all i have to do is learn how to install it
[20:27] <mathias> :P
[20:28] <DreadKnight> mathias: never used it actually, but kde4 has plasma... "add widgets" and there you go
[20:29] <mathias> i dont have 4.0
[20:29] <NickPresta> mathias, `sudo apt-get install superkaramba`
[20:29] <NickPresta> :)
[20:30] <DreadKnight> :D
[20:30] <mathias> NickPresta: .. hmmm that dndt work
[20:30] <thedoc2097> Does anybody know what is error 26 (too many symbolic links) at grub bootloader??
[20:30] <thedoc2097> I hate this fucking bootloader
[20:30] <LjL> !language | thedoc2097
[20:30] <ubotu> thedoc2097: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[20:30] <mathias> E: Kunde inte erhålla låset /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[20:30] <mathias> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[20:31] <mathias> ohh sry thats swedish
[20:31] <thedoc2097> sorry
[20:31] <NickPresta> !aptfix | mathias
[20:31] <ubotu> mathias: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:31] <NickPresta> and mathias if you install the 'cairo-clock' package, you have cairo clock :)
[20:31] <mathias> why make it easy ..
[20:31] <soon> I need to ask someone about TV, DVD and specifically SCART stuff ... any suggestions which channel?
[20:32] <mathias> ther win is easy .. dubbleklick .. nexxt.. Done
[20:32] <NickPresta> mathias, sorry, what?
[20:32] <mathias> NickPresta: i have a file.. and i want it installd.. :)
[20:33] <NickPresta> mathias, which file?
[20:33] <mathias> superkaramba-0.39.tar.gz
[20:34] <NickPresta> mathias, install it from the repositories. You may be used to the Windows way of installing things but GNU+Linux is not Windows :)
[20:34] <NickPresta> mathias, open up Adept manager and find the application you want to install.
[20:34] <mathias> NickPresta:  cant find it in adept.. can i browse local files ?
[20:34] <NickPresta> mathias, for more information about the subtle (and not so subtle) differences between Linux and Windows, check out: http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[20:34] <Bauldrick> why doesn't amarok pull track info from freedb* ?
[20:36] <Dr_willis> I think you have to enable that feature.
[20:36] <NickPresta> mathias, the reason it can't find it is because you probably don't use the Universe and Multiple repository enabled. Check out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu Specifically the pictures which show how to enable Universe and Multiverse repositories.
[20:36] <Dr_willis> Its not enavled by default
[20:36] <jpatrick> Bauldrick: I think it should...
[20:37] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. i may be thinking of some other player.. I cant even find  any mention of the  freedb stuff in amarok
[20:38] <Dr_willis> there we go.. under the 'engine' tab
[20:38] <Bauldrick> yeah - but it won't get the info, ive tried freedb2.org uk.freedb etc...
[20:39] <mathias> NickPresta:  you are an angel ... TNX
[20:40] <fir3_> hi
[20:40] <Bauldrick> KsCD player has no problem and uses the same engine?
[20:40] <fir3_> where can i get .deb packages for kde 4.0?
[20:40] <flipmode> running kubuntu 7.10 cant get cds or dvds to read anyone know a fix?
[20:41] <NickPresta> mathias, no problem. Remember, installing software from source and finding "files" from websites is usually a last resort when it comes to installing packages that are in the repos.
[20:47] <ubuntu_> hi, when i try to boot up my computer. it comes up in a terminal style, but instead of it saying what directory its in it says (initramfs) and i cant get the computer to boot up at all. what is this and how can i fix it (im on a live cd now)
[20:48] <LeAstrale> ubuntu_: which gfx card do you have? and which settings have been changed recently?
[20:49] <ubuntu_> its not a graphics card problem
[20:49] <ubuntu_> and i dont remember changing anything
[20:49] <ubuntu_> it also mentions somthing about "BusyBox" but i dont know what that is
[20:50] <mathias> conversation with SU failed... when i tried to open adept.. whats wrong ?
[20:53] <abovebrew> i'm new to the linux community... could someone help me install a driver for the latest kubuntu?
[20:53] <abovebrew> trying to install a touchpanel driver
[20:53] <ubuntu> hallo can i speak obout love?
[20:54] <garulfounix> Hi everybody
[20:54] <mathias> well i try to reboot
[20:54] <abovebrew> hi garulfounix
[20:55] <garulfounix> someone can tell to me if KDE 4.0 will be integrated in Gutsy ?
[20:55] <Flare183> !kde4
[20:55] <ubotu> kde4 is KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information, please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://tinyurl.com/2gqwmr - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[20:55] <Flare183> slow bot
[20:55] <abovebrew> i need help installing a driver
[20:55] <LeAstrale> abovebrew: which driver?
[20:56] <abovebrew> an elo touchpanel display driver
[20:56] <abovebrew> http://www.elotouch.com/Support/Downloads/dnld.asp
[20:57] <abovebrew> Unified USB Driver.tar.gz
[20:57] <abovebrew> i've uncompressed the drivers.. have them in a folder, but don't know what to do from there
[20:58] <abovebrew> (trying to make a touchpanel mp3 jukebox)
[21:01] <bahman> Hi everybody :)
[21:01] <LeAstrale> bahman: hi there
[21:01] <bahman> Could anyone help me in deleting fonts that created by root-user?!
[21:02] <abovebrew> LeAstrale: Am I not worth helping?
[21:04] <bahman> I added an unsupported program which name was "Ubuntu restricted extras" - It was install some fonts I really hate them! How could I delete these fonts?!
[21:06] <bahman> LeAstrale: Hello again, Could you help me?!
[21:09] <Name141> !dualboot
[21:09] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[21:09] <articpenguin3800> is it normal for the kernel to cache 900Megabytes
[21:09] <sourcemaker> articpenguin3800: yes
[21:09] <articpenguin3800> whats in the cache?
[21:11] <articpenguin3800> will the kernel free the cache memory when an app needs the memory or will go to the swap
[21:11] <Name141> Couldn't I just repartition my current HD , manually , then when my windows partition is resized, go back , and click 'use free space' on the partition manager ?
[21:11] <Name141> Last time I resized my partition , it went to ext3, then I had "unusable space"
[21:11] <Name141> without a swap
[21:13] <BluesKaj> articpenguin3800, frees the cache memory before swap
[21:13] <articpenguin3800> XD windows would go to the swap right away in fact windows always goes to the swap
[21:13] <BluesKaj> this ain't windows
[21:15] <Name141> Why is it that part of the free space left is then called "unusable" space ?
[21:15] <dubbydubby> help someone im trying to do flash, and I have all the packets and stuff and when i try to install the file with nspluginwrapper it tells me there is no available viewer for the .so but the thing is i have what its asking for (libgtk2.0) installed
[21:15] <BluesKaj> Name141, if possible make a swap partition about 2G
[21:16] <Name141> BluesKaj: I was wondering how to do so, I repartition my windows part, NTFS ,and then I have "free space" , then I go to repartition that space, and use almost all of it, as the / , then I have "unusable space" , thus I can't make the swap
[21:17] <jussi01> dubbydubby: umm, are you following a guide or?
[21:17] <BluesKaj> Name141, do you have the kubuntu live cd , or gparted live cd ?
[21:17] <Name141> BluesKaj: I was thinking I might could make the free space, after repartitioning the NTFS , and making it in to free space, then going back and saying for it to use "free space" ?
[21:18] <dubbydubby> jussi01 iv tried a bunch of the guides already non of them work but im pretty good at reading errors
[21:18] <Name141> BluesKaj: Kubuntu Live, it's the only Ubuntu I can get to run right, besides Xubuntu, but then I can't read the screen at any resolution
[21:18] <BluesKaj> dubbydubby, the file youwant is libGL.so.1.2
[21:18] <jussi01> dubbydubby: I assume you have seen the guide under !flash ?
[21:18] <dubbydubby> !flash
[21:18] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[21:18] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[21:18] <dubbydubby> libGL
[21:19] <dubbydubby> jussi01: its asking me for libgtk which i have installed
[21:19] <jussi01> !find libgl.so.1.2
[21:19] <ubotu> Package/file libgl.so.1.2 does not exist in gutsy
[21:19] <Name141> BluesKaj: The orignal Ubuntu takes me to 'busybox' or whatever, and wont continue to boot
[21:21] <dubbydubby> jussi01: here is the error /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:21] <Name141> either way, I want to be able to keep windows , and use Kubuntu also.
[21:22] <BluesKaj> Name141, then the swap partition is the least of your worries ATM ...system settings/monitor&display and try to change the resolution so you can see the panel etc
[21:23] <Name141> BluesKaj: I can see it all in Kubuntu right , however 800x600 doesn't fill the full screen
[21:24] <BluesKaj> what graphics card , Name141 ?
[21:24] <Name141> the ONE time Ubuntu booted right, it worked right
[21:24] <Name141> but it still didn't fill the full screen also
[21:25] <Name141> nVidia GeForce 8300 GS
[21:26] <BluesKaj> can you run the installer and partitoner without losing sight of the next tabs etc as you do the install?
[21:27] <BluesKaj> tabs=buttons , i guess
[21:27] <Name141> yeah, but getting the partition setup is the problem.. and it acts like .. when you take a low def program (4:3) and display it on a HD monitor
[21:27] <Name141> If I move the res down to 800x600
[21:28] <Name141> (it has those black 'bars' around it)
[21:29] <Name141> The monitor is a dell SE198WFP
[21:31] <dubbydubby> !find libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
[21:31] <BluesKaj> Name141, yeah, you'll have to download and install the driver from here after fixing the swap, http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_100.14.19.html
[21:31] <ubotu> File libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 found in libgtk2.0-0
[21:33] <Name141> ok BluesKaj, but I still don't understand why it wont let me use the space after I make the ext3 /
[21:33] <Name141> (and resize the NTFS (windows) so that I can make the ext3)
[21:33] <Name141> so I CAN make the swap
[21:34] <BluesKaj> Name141, have you defragged windows , and make sure the ntfs partiton is has some headroom as well
[21:34] <steveire> I bought a dell vostro 1500 today with an intel 3945abg. Network manager shows networks, but can't connect. What can I do?
[21:35] <ubuntu_> hi, when i try to boot up my computer. it comes up in a terminal style, but instead of it saying what directory its in it says (initramfs) and i cant get the computer to boot up at all. what is this and how can i fix it (im on a live cd now)
[21:36] <BluesKaj> also , Name141 ..I suggest you go back into windows , download and burn GParted live cd and use that to resize and format the partitions you want to make before you install kubuntu ...it's much easier
[21:36] <Name141> BluesKaj: I think I should go in to the live CD and get on IRC with whatever IRC client there ?
[21:36] <Name141> BluesKaj: i am in windows
[21:36] <BluesKaj> ok
[21:36] <Name141> I gave all the space back to NTFS
[21:38] <BluesKaj> well, the above is my suggestion and method ...that's the safest way IMO
[21:38] <Name141> ok
[21:39] <BluesKaj> Name141, warning ...it takes a long time :(
[21:39] <Name141> It didn't take no time in kubuntu
[21:40] <Name141> also, will this screw up all my data
[21:40] <Name141> (on windows)
[21:41] <dubbydubby> hey anyone know how i can get the nspluginwrapper-i386
[21:41] <Name141> Again, I figure I can just make the free space, and go back , then use the 'free space' option of the installer /
[21:41] <BluesKaj> I've never tried the kubuntu partitioner qparted...maybe it's faster, dunno
[21:42] <Name141> so maybe the installer can setup the swap and / partition ?
[21:42] <BluesKaj> dubbydubby, it's in the repos if you have all the sources enabled in adept
[21:42] <BluesKaj> Name141, yes the installer has a partitioner app
[21:43] <BluesKaj> dubbydubby, Open adept package manager, On the menu of that screen you will want to click on Adept -> Manage Repositories, click the kubuntu software tab, check all the boxes "X",same goes for the third party software tab. Close,and then in the terminal "sudo apt-get update".Now you have more sources for applications other than the defaults that came with Kubuntu
[21:44] <NickPresta> Name141, BluesKaj, if I'm not mistaken, the installer in the partition editor does not resize/create new partitions. It only edits what you have so if you try to edit an existing partition (with Windows for example) it will format the partition.
[21:44] <NickPresta> the partition editor in the installer**
[21:44] <BluesKaj> thx NickPresta , did you get that Name141 ?
[21:45] <NickPresta> Name141, if you need to resize/edit existing partitions, select QTParted inside K Menu.
[21:46] <ubuntu> thanks and bye all
[21:46] <BluesKaj> NickPresta, Name141 , i've never used the kubuntu install partitoner to change any existing partitions. I've always used GParted to the partitoning first .
[21:47] <BluesKaj> to do
[21:47] <Name141> "Although the Ubuntu installer does now include support for resizing NTFS partitions, it is not 100% effective. If you try the above procedure and have no luck, try the following alternative method:"
[21:50] <blizzzek> both kontact and korganizer crash on startup, i suspect a created task of being the cause for that. does anyone know, where tasks are saved to? i could not find the correct file in ~/.kde/share/apps/korganizer. (i have a backtrace if someone is interested in it)
[21:51] <BluesKaj> blizzzek, try kcron
[21:53] <blizzzek> BluesKaj: with tasks i mean jobs/assignments/however they are called in the english version of korganizer/kontact
[21:54] <BluesKaj> blizzzek, ok...sorry dunno anything about that
[21:54] <blizzzek> BluesKaj: np
[21:55] <ubuntu> hi, when ever i try to boot up after it goes through the grub instead of going to a login screen it goes to a black and white screen and it says "BusyBoxv1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7) built-in shell (ash)" then goes down a line and says "(initramfs)" i cant boot up or anything, what is this error and how can i fix it?
[21:56] <mathias> is it easy to upgrade from kde 3.5.5 to 4 ?
[21:57] <jussi01> !kde4 > mathias
[21:57] <jpatrick> mathias: just install kdebase-workspace-dev
[21:57] <BluesKaj> mathias, good luck !
[21:58] <mathias> tnx..
[21:58] <jpatrick> works good here
[22:00] <nutz> hi everybody
[22:00] <jussi01> hmm, ive just turned on zoom by accident in compiz, anyoe know how to turn it off?
[22:00] <NickPresta> jussi, Meta + Scroll Out
[22:00] <BluesKaj> yeah jpatrick , of course it does for knowledgeable linux users, who know how to set up and install a mess like kde4 :)
[22:00] <jussi01> NickPresta: thanks... :D
[22:00] <nutz> could somebody give me the name of that applet that shows me that i'm changing volume, when i'm changing volume?
[22:00] <nutz> it
[22:01] <nutz> it's a little osd-thing
[22:01] <BluesKaj> the speaker icon in the panel ?
[22:01] <nutz> BluesKaj: nae - i think it's something else
[22:02] <nutz> it pops up when i change the volume on my laptop with the buttons for volume
[22:02] <nutz> it's right in the middle of the screen
[22:02] <BluesKaj> is the volume changing ?
[22:03] <nutz> yea
[22:03] <nutz> there's no problem with it - i'm just wondering what the name of that program is
[22:03] <nutz> :)
[22:03] <timpa> how do i drive msn?
[22:04] <filadoda> Hi everyone!! The input volume in the mixer are everybody down! I turn them up and when i reboot they are again down!! How can i register my changes?
[22:04] <NickPresta> timpa, drive MSN?
[22:04] <timpa> or something to chat
[22:04] <NickPresta> timpa, there is Kopete and Pidgin. Both are capable of the MSN protocol
[22:05] <filadoda> timpa, aMSN is also a valid software!!
[22:07] <BluesKaj> filadoda, after making changes, click on settings/configure kmix/apply/ok
[22:08] <BluesKaj> filadoda, make sure you also have all the vol ctrls in alsamixer turned up to least 70%
[22:09] <evil_tech> anyone have xubuntu running on an IT8212 ide raid controller  (either as raid or not)
[22:09] <evil_tech> or any of the ubuntu's for that matter
[22:10] <jpatrick> evil_tech: best ask in #xubuntu
[22:12] <evil_tech> xubuntu too low traffic right now
[22:12] <evil_tech> and the problem seems not to be limited to just xubuntu as ive tried kubuntu and ubuntu with the same results
[22:13] <nutz> thanks anyways
[22:13] <julian_> yesterday I installed ubuntu64 on my laptop (just for proving) and I have noticed something
[22:14] <julian_> my Hard Disk sounds really hard in kubuntu
[22:16] <julian_> any idea?
[22:21] <Jortmans> HELP!!! several programms keep n crashing, all giving the same SIGSEGV 11 error
[22:21] <jpatrick> Jortmans: what does running them from the konsole say?
[22:22] <Jortmans> dunno, there's not really a wy to tell wch programm will crash and when
[22:23] <Jortmans> I'm suspecting my flash plugin in firefox intiates the whole thing
[22:24] <Jortmans> I'll try t make conquerer crash again
[22:26] <Jortmans> kdwallet crashed now
[22:26] <Jortmans> giving the smae SIGSEGV 11 error
[22:40] <jckffyi> is there an amarok channel?
[22:45] <XxXValeteXxX> I installed windows and, after that, kubuntu. The grub shows both but it gives an error when I try to log in win XP. What do I do? :S
[22:46] <Flare183> !fixgrub | XxXValeteXxX
[22:46] <ubotu> XxXValeteXxX: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[22:54] <blizzzek> bye
[23:01] <kgx> is there any way someone can figure out my ssh password?
[23:04] <hola>  someone can help me with compiz?
[23:08] <Flare183> !compiz | hola
[23:08] <ubotu> hola: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[23:09] <terran4000> Now only if compiz worked correctly with fglrx we'd all be happy
[23:10] <terran4000> kgx: yes, they can either guess and 'theoretically' it is possible to hack it but not within a lifetime
[23:12] <kgx> terran4000: i just logged into my home computer and there was an ssh login from thailand!! (ip: 202.28.219.13)
[23:12] <terran4000> o.O
[23:12] <kgx> google tells me that IP is in the blocked list for heaps of people
[23:13] <kgx> i shut down my pc. will have to go home and figure out what he managed to get
[23:13] <Flare183> kgx: you might want to setup that fireware
[23:13] <Flare183> firewall*
[23:13] <kgx> worst thing was at this was cygwin on windows, which would have given access to lots of stuff
[23:13] <terran4000> The other 'possible' way is that he/she/it hacked via a backdoor or whole in 'some' software
[23:14] <Flare183> kgx: doubt it through
[23:14] <kgx> i've got a firewall, i guess i should restrict ssh to only certain IPs
[23:14] <terran4000> Windows ... that would explain a lot of it ><
[23:14] <kgx> lol
[23:14] <Flare183> lol yeap
[23:14] <dubbydubby> hey anyone know how i can install nspluginwrapper.i386 when i have the x86_64 arch?
[23:14] <terran4000> No serious ... I quit my last job because they refused to switch from XP SP1 !
[23:14] <Flare183> !amd | dubbydubby
[23:14] <terran4000> Yes. SP1 ... not 2
[23:14] <kgx> yikes
[23:14] <dubbydubby> !amd
[23:14] <Flare183> slow bot
[23:14] <dubbydubby> ah
[23:15] <Flare183> oh come on
[23:15] <Flare183> !amd > dubbydubby
[23:15] <terran4000> We broke the bot >_>
[23:15] <dubbydubby> !flash
[23:15] <terran4000> Anywho, kgx: you're best bet would be to setup host based SSH
[23:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:15] <terran4000> It's a bit anal in my opinion but it works ...
[23:15] <Flare183> Please don't ban me for this (it's a test)
[23:15] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[23:15] <Flare183> !ping
[23:16] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[23:16] <ubotu> pong
[23:16] <terran4000> lol
[23:16] <Flare183> ok the bots fixed
[23:16] <dubbydubby> hes goin now
[23:16] <kgx> terran4000: thanks...will do that
[23:16] <dubbydubby> well he knows nothing about amd
[23:16] <dubbydubby> Flare186: bot knows nothing about amd
[23:16] <terran4000> kgx: just remember, once you have host based enabled ... ONLY those computers will be able to connect. So, if you get a new computer (for example) at work ... you won't be able to connect
[23:16] <dubbydubby> agh
[23:16] <dubbydubby> Flare183: bot knows nothing about amd
[23:17] <Flare183> !amd64 | dubbydubby
[23:17] <ubotu> dubbydubby: AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[23:17] <Flare183> !search chroot
[23:17] <ubotu> Found: debchroot, sbuild, chroot, pbuilder, debootstrap
[23:17] <Flare183> debchroot | dubbydubby
[23:17] <Flare183> !debchroot | dubbydubby
[23:17] <ubotu> dubbydubby: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[23:17] <Flare183> crap
[23:17] <Flare183> there
[23:17] <dubbydubby> Flare183 got it now
[23:18] <dubbydubby> lolz
[23:18] <Flare183> welcome
[23:18] <terran4000> Bootstrapping? Isn't it just easier to get the 32bit libraries from the repo's and 'just' let ubuntu do it's thing?
[23:18] <Flare183> may be
[23:19] <BluesKaj> install ia32libs helps run 32bit apps on 64bit kubuntu
[23:19] <hola> BluesKaj: hi
[23:20] <BluesKaj> hi hola
[23:20] <hola> BluesKaj: do you know how to remove completely compiz after install
[23:21] <BluesKaj> hmm, sudo apt-get purge compiz ?
[23:22] <dubbydubby> agh someone im having real trouble with nspluginwrapper i have the x86_64 version and it tells me it cannot find libgtk2.0-0 which I know is installed
[23:23] <terran4000> dubbydubby: did you install the dev libraries?
[23:23] <dubbydubby> yes, at first know but i have tried installing the dev libraries as well
[23:23] <dubbydubby> terran4000 ^
[23:24] <terran4000> What's the "exact" error you get?
[23:24] <dubbydubby> error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0:
[23:24] <dubbydubby> error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0:
[23:24] <terran4000> hm ..
[23:24] <dubbydubby>  cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[23:25] <terran4000> I remember this error from somewhere, give me a min
[23:25] <dubbydubby> did you get all that, and sorry for the double post
[23:25] <dubbydubby> i see an [error] lol in Konversation
[23:25] <terran4000> heh
[23:26] <dubbydubby> usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin: Unknown command.
[23:26] <dubbydubby> iv tried reinstalling libgtk2.0-0
[23:26] <dubbydubby> iv tried purging and installing nspluginwrapper
[23:27] <dubbydubby> nothing
[23:27] <terran4000> libgtk2.0-dev
[23:27] <terran4000> installed that right?
[23:27] <dubbydubby> yeah iv done that as well libgtk2.0-dev
[23:27] <terran4000> libx11-dev
[23:27] <terran4000> that too?
[23:28] <sadfish421> hello?
[23:28] <dubbydubby> yep for libx11-dev
[23:28] <terran4000> sadfish421: howdy
[23:28] <sadfish421> OMG i need help
[23:29] <dubbydubby> terran4000 yes on libx11-dev
[23:29] <terran4000> Don't we all, my doctor said to simply take some pills >_>
[23:29] <nexamac> sadfish421: state the problem and wait for help
[23:29] <sadfish421> i just installed Kubunto (this is my first time using Linux)
[23:29] <nexamac> :>
[23:29] <nexamac> go on
[23:29] <terran4000> dubbydubby: wait ... random question
[23:30] <terran4000> dubbydubby: why not just install from repo's?
[23:30] <BluesKaj> now here's something for gamerz : http://www.engadget.com
[23:30] <sadfish421> and i want to install my drivers for my nvidia card but it says i need to close xserver and i don't know how or what to do :(
[23:30] <dubbydubby> terran4000 you mean nspluginwrapper for i386?
[23:31] <NexaMac> sadfish421: you have to stop the xserver :P
[23:31] <NexaMac> what kind of install, what video card?
[23:31] <sadfish421> yeah or reboot with it not running so i can install
[23:31] <terran4000> dubbydubby: I do believe it is in the repo's. just apt-get it ...
[23:31] <sadfish421> 8600gt
[23:31] <terran4000> "I think"
[23:31] <NexaMac> sadfish421: is it a .py script?
[23:31] <NexaMac> nvm
[23:32] <NexaMac> can you give me a link to the guide youre using sadfish421?
[23:32] <sadfish421> no it's a .run
[23:32] <NexaMac> sadfish421: is this your only computer?
[23:32] <sadfish421> http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/169.07/README/chapter-01.html
[23:33] <sadfish421> yes
[23:33] <terran4000> dubbydubby: I could ofcourse be wrong, because the only kubutu's I have running are all x64's.
[23:33] <sadfish421> i was using vista but i hate windows and i'm only useing this computer for WOW and ventrillo
[23:33] <NexaMac> sadfish421: allright, which part are you on?
[23:34] <sadfish421> Chapter4 starting the installer
[23:34] <NexaMac> allright
[23:34] <NexaMac> so
[23:34] <NexaMac> dont do this yet
[23:35] <sadfish421> and i can open the console and run it in the root but it says something about closing the xserver befor it can install
[23:35] <NexaMac> but to shutdown the xserver hit ctrl+alt+F1 or F2
[23:35] <NexaMac> then login
[23:35] <NexaMac> then type sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[23:35] <NexaMac> or maybe kde stop not sure about kde :/
[23:35] <NexaMac> then do what the install told you
[23:36] <NexaMac> now go for it:P
[23:36] <Bauldrick> still cant get track info in amarok
[23:36] <NexaMac> XMMS <3
[23:37] <terran4000> NexaMac: psh, xmms. What you need it a straight pipe to /dev/dps. No fancy smancy 'gui'
[23:37] <NexaMac> :<
[23:37] <NexaMac> hmm
[23:38] <NexaMac> btw, i dont know jack shit about KDE and the difference between KDE and GDE.. is compiz working the same way?
[23:38] <terran4000> gde?
[23:39] <terran4000> NexaMac: But aye, compiz/fusion/beryl/<insert name of composite manager here> will work for most gui's like KDE and Gnome
[23:40] <NexaMac> or rather, does compiz work with kde? :p
[23:40] <terran4000> Yes
[23:40] <NexaMac> k
[23:40] <terran4000> Depends on if you have the video drivers to support it
[23:40] <terran4000> Thus
[23:40] <terran4000> If you have an nvidia card running new-ish nvidia drivers ... then no problem
[23:40] <NexaMac> kek
[23:41] <NexaMac> this one is a macbook :>
[23:41] <NexaMac> so no
[23:41] <terran4000> If you have an ATI ... play to the Elvaan Gods to smite tee ol AMD-ATI code into order hope the newest drivers don't break more than fix
[23:41] <NexaMac> intel built in
[23:42] <NexaMac> my old laptop had ati, i gave up :D
[23:42] <terran4000> NexaMac: lol, ATI is 'bad' but not 'that' bad.
[23:42] <NexaMac> it is :P
[23:42] <terran4000> Then again ... it literally took my 3 days to get video workin >_>
[23:42] <NexaMac> ;)
[23:42] <XxXValeteXxX> jesus christ its actually cheaper to buy a ticked to USA and buy a laptop then to buy one here =_=
[23:42] <NexaMac> some nvidia cards fail horribly too :/
[23:43] <NexaMac> XxXValeteXxX: where is "here"?
[23:43] <terran4000> Only to find out 'for some reason' ATI's drivers + my card didn't like using the 2nd head with VGA instead of DVI! ... so it crashed because of a physical cable (which is in good condition)
[23:44] <NexaMac> haha
[23:45] <NexaMac> i have to unplug my HDTV everytime i boot linux on my desktop due to the fact that it notices the extra cabel and uses it as primary screen
[23:45] <terran4000> Oh, though ... random bit of news here: the Newest ATI drivers actually support compiz
[23:45] <NexaMac> which fails considering the resolution is 1366x768 :/
[23:45] <NexaMac> notice the 6 extra pixels for the joy of torture
[23:45] <terran4000> heh
[23:46] <XxXValeteXxX> NexaMac:  Brasil
[23:46] <NexaMac> haha awesome :D
[23:47] <NexaMac> you can order a computer online tho, wouldnt that save you even more money? :P
[23:47] <XxXValeteXxX> NexaMac: here a macbook pro costs around 8k dollars :\
[23:47] <XxXValeteXxX> how is that for overpricing? =~~
[23:47] <NexaMac> 8k dollars? >_>
[23:47] <XxXValeteXxX> NexaMac: amazon doesnt ship eletronics here
[23:47] <NexaMac> thats 6-7 times as expensive tho
[23:47] <NexaMac> amazon ftl
[23:47] <XxXValeteXxX> NexaMac: just books dvds etc
[23:47] <XxXValeteXxX> NexaMac: yeah :|
[23:48] <NexaMac> never heard of, never used
[23:48] <NexaMac> or.. ive heard of amazone.com
[23:48] <NexaMac> but tbh i couldnt care less :o
[23:48] <NexaMac> www.apple.com im sure theid be happy to send you one for 1-2k dollars
[23:48] <NexaMac> damnit i forgot what i was doing
[23:49] <terran4000> ndis?
[23:49] <NexaMac> :>
[23:49] <NexaMac> ive got an idea
[23:49] <NexaMac> ill sell my World of Warcraft account, then ill make millions and buy apple
[23:50] <NexaMac> ill send ya a macbook pro XxXValeteXxX
[23:50] <terran4000> How about just send me 30g so I can buy me a mace?
[23:50] <NexaMac> haha
[23:50] <NexaMac> US?
[23:50] <terran4000> Aye
[23:50] <NexaMac> <---- EU
[23:50] <terran4000> WoW doesn't care ^_^
[23:50] <NexaMac> chinesefarmers.com? :<
[23:50] <XxXValeteXxX> computer stuff here is way overpriced
[23:50] <XxXValeteXxX> :(
[23:51] <NexaMac> meh
[23:51] <NexaMac> its pretty overpriced in norway too imo
[23:51] <terran4000> Not to mention finally got cedega + wow finally working at 50fps!
[23:51] <NexaMac> *cough*
[23:51] <NexaMac> cedega fails
[23:51] <BluesKaj> no pc manufacturers in Brazil ?
[23:51] <terran4000> heh, it actually works much better for me than wine
[23:51] <XxXValeteXxX> BluesKaj: not many
[23:51] <NexaMac> wont let me use a .no keyboard, and the FPS is crap too
[23:51] <XxXValeteXxX> I am not sure I think not
[23:51] <NexaMac> well ok, standard wine is worse terran4000 ill agree
[23:52] <NexaMac> luckily im dual booting OS X and Kubuntu atm, so i can use the "real" mac client :D
[23:52] <terran4000> haha
[23:52] <NexaMac> they should really make a linux client soon
[23:52] <XxXValeteXxX> I wonder how leopard would run on a machine with 512 RAM
[23:52] <XxXValeteXxX> ;P
[23:52] <NexaMac> or let the opensource community do it for them
[23:53] <NexaMac> XxXValeteXxX: im guessing it would be ok
[23:53] <terran4000> They should do that, but they won't >_> Blizzard was never a fan of *nix
[23:53] <eric> hehe i didn't wright what you said down and got lost half way throught it
[23:53] <NexaMac> :o
[23:53] <eric> this is sadfish421
[23:53] <eric> nvidi drivers
[23:53] <NexaMac> "guild MOTD: Cry more N00B!"
[23:53] <NexaMac> joy
[23:54] <NexaMac> eric: which part did you stop at? P:
[23:54] <XxXValeteXxX> NexaMac:  hopefulle better then the OS whose name cannot be said
[23:54] <XxXValeteXxX> xD
[23:54] <XxXValeteXxX> *hopefully
[23:54] <NexaMac> XxXValeteXxX: ahahhaha
[23:54] <NexaMac> holy crap i almost forgot :D
[23:54] <eric> well just after i hit ctrl+alt+F1
[23:54] <NexaMac> my steph dad brought home a computer from work for his kids
[23:54] <NexaMac> its running vista
[23:54] <NickPresta> !ot
[23:54] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[23:54] <NexaMac> 128 mb ram, 64mb built in intel (?) vid card, pentium 533 mhz or some crap
[23:54] <NexaMac> i lolled
[23:55] <XxXValeteXxX> NexaMac: ahahahahaha
[23:55] <XxXValeteXxX> xD
[23:55] <NexaMac> NickPresta: aight
[23:55] <BluesKaj> thatkind of pc couldn'yt run vista
[23:55] <XxXValeteXxX> NexaMac: I wanna see them running sword of the new world on that machine, on top of vista x)
[23:55] <eric> heheh yeah i was oh that looks easy then BOOSH i was out of the gui
[23:55] <NexaMac> eric: login with your username and password, locate the installer.. like cd Desktop/installer if youre anything like me
[23:55] <NexaMac> then ./installer i guess
[23:56] <NexaMac> BluesKaj: thats my point exactly ;)
[23:56] <NexaMac> tried switching the disk over to another computer to at least boot it properly, bluescreen :<
[23:57] <eric> i did but it said i needed to do it from the root  something or other ... sorry im souch a noob at this
[23:57] <terran4000> eric: it's ok. no worries
[23:57] <Greenery> use sudo
[23:57] <terran4000> sudo <my command here>
[23:58] <NexaMac> did you understand that eric?
[23:58] <eric> no
[23:58] <NexaMac> if you put sudo infront of a comman, you run it as root
[23:58] <NexaMac> like
[23:58] <eric> oh ok i'll try that
[23:58] <NexaMac> aptitude update
[23:58] <NexaMac> wont work
[23:58] <NexaMac> sudo aptitude update
[23:58] <NexaMac> will
[23:58] <NexaMac> also a good idea :o
[23:59] <Greenery> eric: trying to install nvidia driver?
[23:59] <eric> also i was wondering you said once i ctrl+alt+f1 i need to type something else in to stop Xserver?
[23:59] <eric> yes
[23:59] <Greenery> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[23:59] <NexaMac> ah yes
[23:59] <NexaMac> what Greenery said
[23:59] <Greenery> do that to stop xserver
[23:59] <NexaMac> write it down this time :P
[23:59] <eric> hehe i will