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| Wofl | hey, i was just wondering if it possible to have code that is not accessible to anyone else? | 03:39 |
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| Wofl | just for the tesm | 03:39 |
| Wofl | s/tesm/team | 03:39 |
| Fujitsu | Wofl: Not at this time, although I believe such a feature is planned. | 03:40 |
| Wofl | so all code is open to the public? | 03:40 |
| Fujitsu | Yes. | 03:40 |
| Wofl | ok | 03:41 |
| Wofl | i was just wondering, i went to the ubuntu project, and the code tab is greyed out | 03:41 |
| Fujitsu | That's because Ubuntu is a distribution, and distributions don't have code branches in the Launchpad model. | 03:43 |
| Wofl | ah | 03:43 |
| Wofl | so could you make some code be classified as a distro? | 03:43 |
| Fujitsu | What do you mean? | 03:44 |
| Wofl | well, have some project seem like a distro, so you can grey out the code tab | 03:45 |
| Fujitsu | Ah, no. | 03:46 |
| Fujitsu | There's no way to disable Code for a project. | 03:46 |
| Fujitsu | Hmm... | 03:47 |
| Wofl | ah well, thanks anyway | 03:47 |
| Fujitsu | Apparently the private-branches spec has been implemented, but I can't see how it can be used. | 03:47 |
| Wofl | hm, ill look into it | 03:49 |
| Fujitsu | Morning kiko. | 03:53 |
| thumper | Wofl: are you asking just because of the disabled tab, or because you want it? | 04:13 |
| Wofl | i would like it | 04:13 |
| Wofl | so i dont have to use svn | 04:13 |
| Wofl | without ssh | 04:13 |
| thumper | Wofl: for a private project, or open source? | 04:13 |
| Wofl | private, i would like to make it public after the summer though | 04:14 |
| Wofl | its botball (botball.org) | 04:14 |
| jamesh | Wofl: you can always not publish your code | 04:14 |
| Wofl | so i want the teams code to be "secret" | 04:14 |
| Wofl | well, the team should colaborate | 04:15 |
| Wofl | over launchpad | 04:15 |
| thumper | Wofl: the launchpad policy is to be free for open source stuff (which has an implication that if you want it for private it might cost) | 04:15 |
| Wofl | ah, i see | 04:15 |
| thumper | Wofl: the person to ask about private stuff is statik | 04:15 |
| Wofl | ok, thanks | 04:15 |
| thumper | Wofl: who is on UTC-5 time | 04:15 |
| Wofl | -6 here | 04:16 |
| thumper | ok | 04:16 |
| Wofl | statik: let me know when you are there | 04:16 |
| thumper | Fujitsu: the feature does exist (private branches) | 04:16 |
| Fujitsu | thumper: There's no public UI for it? | 04:17 |
| thumper | Fujitsu: no public way to enable it no, it is an admin thing | 04:17 |
| Fujitsu | That makes sense - thanks. | 04:17 |
| Hobbsee | urgh. team expiry which can't be renewed | 05:36 |
| Hobbsee | mdz: tentative ping? | 05:36 |
| * Hobbsee notes that bugging the TB every 2 months is going to get rather annoying. | 05:39 | |
| thumper | Launchpad reviewer's meeting in #launchpad-meeting now | 06:15 |
| thumper | jamesh: ^^^ | 06:16 |
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| carlos | morning | 08:11 |
| Fujitsu | Hey carlos. | 08:11 |
| ubotu | New bug: #181190 in launchpad "HTTP resume support" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181190 | 08:41 |
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| mpt | Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! | 09:30 |
| Fujitsu | Hey mpt. | 09:30 |
| geser | good morning | 09:39 |
| gryc | is there any way to duplicate a branch on launchpad? the upload times of making a new branch are a real killer | 09:40 |
| Odd_Bloke | gryc: I don't believe there is, no. | 09:40 |
| gryc | argh. | 09:40 |
| kiko | gryc, we're working on making the new branch time really faster | 09:40 |
| kiko | gryc, one question I have: are you using bzr+ssh or sftp? | 09:40 |
| gryc | bzr+ssh | 09:40 |
| kiko | gryc, how big is your branch? | 09:40 |
| gryc | about 15mb, counting the .bzr folder | 09:41 |
| Odd_Bloke | kiko: Is the speed-up going to be by using shared repositories for stuff, or is there some other speedup to be got? | 09:41 |
| gryc | just the files are about 3mb | 09:41 |
| kiko | Odd_Bloke, I'm talking about shared/stacked repos. | 09:42 |
| Odd_Bloke | Cool, that's what I assumed. | 09:42 |
| kiko | which basically reduces immensely what you need to push over the wire | 09:42 |
| Odd_Bloke | Still doesn't help the first time push, but that's an issue for #bzr. :p | 09:43 |
| kiko | not the first time the project is every pushed to | 09:45 |
| kiko | but after that all project branches share at least some history right? | 09:45 |
| Odd_Bloke | kiko: Sure, I was just talking about that first-time push. | 09:48 |
| * Odd_Bloke notes that his hyphenation is varying wildly this morning. | 09:48 | |
| kiko | Odd_Bloke, yeah, the smart server needs to improve to reduce that to something closer to an rsync | 09:48 |
| jamesh | Odd_Bloke: with a stacked repo, the idea is that your initial push would include a pointer to the branch you branched from and just the changes relative to it. | 10:01 |
| jamesh | Odd_Bloke: Launchpad would then be able to fill in the history from there | 10:01 |
| Odd_Bloke | Ah, so you could just submit a bundle with the 'submit branch' appropriately set and magic would happen. | 10:03 |
| Odd_Bloke | (NB. I may not mean 'submit branch', but we all know what I do mean :p) | 10:03 |
| jamesh | Odd_Bloke: the idea is to make your initial push proportional to the size of your changes -- not the history | 10:04 |
| jamesh | even in cases where permissions would prevent you from using the history from another branch on bazaar.launchpad.net | 10:04 |
| Odd_Bloke | Sounds nifty. | 10:05 |
| Odd_Bloke | And less hacks than just symlinking all the repositories of all branches of a project to one SUPER-REPO. :p | 10:05 |
| Odd_Bloke | I'd make a great sysadmin. ^_^ | 10:06 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #181216 in malone "No tabs work on bug nomination page (nominations/n/+editstatus)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181216 | 11:06 |
| jel | Not being pushy or anything, but... could someone give me a rough idea of how long it usually takes for a first translation file to be reviewed? | 11:47 |
| jel | (and hi, btw :) | 11:48 |
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| statik | Wofl: still there? | 13:11 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #181238 in launchpad "canonical_url is inconsistent regarding trailing '/'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181238 | 13:31 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #181254 in rosetta "Auto-approval script scales badly with queue size" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181254 | 14:35 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #181262 in launchpad "Searching for 802.11n in Ubuntu answers doesn't find anything" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181262 | 15:10 |
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| PriceChild | Hey there. Me and LjL are just doing a little housekeeping on launchpad. We're part of the "ubuntu-irc-council" team, which owns "ubuntu-irc" and "ubuntu-irc-cloaks". To start with, we're confused what "notifications" refer to wrt the "contact address", and why two teams can't have the same contact address (e.g. a private mailing list for the council) | 16:36 |
| LjL | When changing "Contact address" details, two options are given: E-mail notifications for this team should go to: "Each member individually", or "Another e-mail address". But don't notification when no "other e-mail address" is set only reach team *administrators*, rather than each member? | 16:37 |
| ubotu | New bug: #181299 in malone "Can't search for presence/absence of more than one subscriber" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181299 | 17:36 |
| LaserJock | kiko: hi | 17:54 |
| kiko | LaserJock! | 17:56 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #181307 in python-launchpad-bugs "text interface for [assigned|commented|subscribed|reported] bugs missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181307 | 18:05 |
| mtaylor | hey all... is launchpad having any problems? I'm having a pull that's just hanging in the middle of a read() | 18:10 |
| mtaylor | bzr branch bzr+ssh://monty@bazaar.launchpad.net/~ndb-connectors/ndb-connectors/devel | 18:22 |
| ubotu | New bug: #181313 in launchpad "it should be easier to report a bug from your own profile page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181313 | 18:26 |
| ubotu | New bug: #181318 in launchpad "main "report a bug" page should provide a link to the package's bug page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181318 | 18:45 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #181322 in launchpad "Feed icon makes "See all announcements..." look like a feed link" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181322 | 19:00 |
| ubotu | New bug: #181323 in soyuz "Add changelog or description to packages in PPA" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181323 | 19:00 |
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| thumper | mtaylor: how long is it hanging for? | 19:14 |
| thumper | mtaylor: it may be attempting to acquire a lock | 19:14 |
| thumper | mtaylor: have you done a Ctrl-C on it at all? | 19:15 |
| mtaylor | thumper: it eventually timed out | 19:15 |
| mtaylor | thumper: should I try break-lock? | 19:15 |
| kiko | thumper! | 19:15 |
| thumper | mtaylor: there was a bzr bug that has been addressed in the latest release (I think) | 19:16 |
| thumper | mtaylor: which had to do with break-lock and the smart server | 19:16 |
| thumper | mtaylor: let me take a look | 19:16 |
| ubotu | New bug: #181329 in malone "Choose which implicit subscribers should be explicitly subscribed when marking a bug private" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181329 | 19:20 |
| ubotu | New bug: #181328 in soyuz "no build records for previously-failed builds" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181328 | 19:21 |
| ubotu | New bug: #181331 in launchpad-bazaar "Provide statistics on access to hosted branches" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181331 | 19:25 |
| thumper | mtaylor: there doesn't appear to be a lock on the branch | 19:30 |
| mtaylor | thumper: hm. how odd | 19:31 |
| thumper | mtaylor: how's your internet connection? | 19:31 |
| mtaylor | it's good. I have a 6M connection | 19:31 |
| mtaylor | thumper let me try again | 19:31 |
| mtaylor | thumper: well, it worked that time | 19:37 |
| mtaylor | :( | 19:37 |
| mtaylor | how odd | 19:37 |
| thumper | good | 19:37 |
| thumper | ... kind of | 19:37 |
| mtaylor | yeah - except I'd love to know what the problem was | 19:38 |
| thumper | me too | 19:38 |
| ubotu | New bug: #181337 in launchpad-bazaar "Branch registration date isn't visible anywhere" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181337 | 20:06 |
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| domas | hi! just wondering, how soon does stuff show on team ppa lists, after it has been dput'ed? | 20:47 |
| domas | mtaylor: ping :) | 20:52 |
| mtaylor | domas: hi | 20:52 |
| domas | ha! | 20:52 |
| domas | I just dput'ed few packages on ppa, and they don't show anywhere :) is it supposed to be that way? | 20:53 |
| mtaylor | domas: it depends on the length of the build queues, but I've been seeing an average of about 20-30 minutes between dput and build | 20:53 |
| mtaylor | domas: yeah - it takes just a bit for them to show | 20:53 |
| domas | ah, so it shouldn't show up in 'all states' nor 'needs building'? :) | 20:53 |
| mtaylor | domas: you should get an email back saying source package accepted or rejected | 20:53 |
| domas | ah | 20:53 |
| mtaylor | once it's in the build queue, it'll be there in all states and needs building | 20:53 |
| domas | email, right | 20:54 |
| mtaylor | but it take a bit to show up there | 20:54 |
| domas | found some rejects | 20:54 |
| domas | "Rejected: | 20:54 |
| domas | Unable to find distroseries: wikimedia | 20:54 |
| domas | Further error processing not possible because of a critical previous error." | 20:54 |
| domas | heh | 20:54 |
| domas | what 'distroseries' should I use for gutsy++ building? | 20:54 |
| domas | I guess 'unstable' should do fine | 20:55 |
| mtaylor | domas: nope | 20:58 |
| mtaylor | domas: gutsy | 20:58 |
| mtaylor | domas: do you have depends on things that aren't in gutsy? | 20:58 |
| domas | nope | 20:58 |
| mtaylor | then just gutsy | 20:58 |
| mtaylor | that tells PPA what distro to build against | 20:58 |
| mtaylor | I think you can do hardy, too | 20:58 |
| domas | mmm, how do I build against feisty+gutsy? | 20:58 |
| domas | then just specify feisty? | 20:58 |
| mtaylor | upload one source package for gutsy and one for feisty | 20:59 |
| mtaylor | just make sure to mark one of them in the version number, since it's a flat namespace | 20:59 |
| mtaylor | like memcached 1.2.1-1feisty or something | 20:59 |
| domas | mhm | 21:00 |
| mtaylor | domas: your packages will also have available for build-depends any other packages in your ppa | 21:01 |
| domas | mhm | 21:01 |
| mtaylor | so if you do need to build against something else, you can upload that, let it build, then upload the second... | 21:01 |
| domas | I wonder what is the best way to tweak *.changes | 21:01 |
| mtaylor | I always just tweak the changelog and then do another debuild -S | 21:02 |
| domas | heh | 21:03 |
| domas | thats cheating | 21:03 |
| domas | ok, learned about debuild -S | 21:03 |
| domas | was doing dpkg-source -b, dpkg-changes -S manually | 21:03 |
| SteveA | domas: ar mes jau susitikim? | 21:04 |
| SteveA | (does that even make sense... it's been a while since I tried lithuanian) | 21:04 |
| domas | SteveA: yup! | 21:04 |
| domas | SteveA: I guess I've met you once or twice :) | 21:05 |
| SteveA | cool! | 21:05 |
| SteveA | mtaylor: monty? | 21:05 |
| mtaylor | SteveA: hey there | 21:05 |
| SteveA | hey, how are you? | 21:05 |
| mtaylor | doing well! how about you? | 21:06 |
| SteveA | great! | 21:06 |
| SteveA | see you at pycon perhaps? | 21:06 |
| mtaylor | I don't know if they're going to let me come this year... but I hope so! | 21:06 |
| domas | mtaylor: stay and work! | 21:07 |
| domas | mtaylor: pity one can't cheat and have multiple builds from single source package | 21:08 |
| mtaylor | domas: I asked kiko about that at one point I believe | 21:10 |
| mtaylor | I think he said they'd thought about | 21:10 |
| mtaylor | it | 21:10 |
| domas | cause that would make it rock | 21:14 |
| mtaylor | kiko will fix it.. he fixes everything | 21:14 |
| domas | we're now in gutsy-feisty transition | 21:14 |
| domas | heh, maybe some day we will move more of development to launchpad :) | 21:15 |
| mtaylor | I think you should | 21:16 |
| domas | I tried to mix SVN/BZR | 21:16 |
| domas | didn't work that well | 21:16 |
| mtaylor | I've been doing that alot, actually | 21:16 |
| domas | well, I guess my order was wrong | 21:16 |
| domas | there's no way to do 'svn import' that would skip .bzr stuff | 21:16 |
| mtaylor | I branch the pkg-mysql svn repos from debian, commit locally and push to it all quite successfully | 21:16 |
| mtaylor | I haven't tried to go that direction | 21:17 |
| mtaylor | I use bzr to talk to svn | 21:17 |
| mtaylor | so I never have to touch the svn command | 21:17 |
| domas | damn. debuild -S didn't include orig.tar.gz in archive :) | 21:17 |
| mtaylor | hehe | 21:17 |
| mtaylor | try debuild -S -sa | 21:18 |
| mtaylor | that forces it to include the orig | 21:18 |
| domas | riiight, magic options | 21:18 |
| mtaylor | well, it's an option passed on to dpkg-buildpackage | 21:18 |
| domas | yup, seems to be better now | 21:19 |
| mtaylor | domas: so, once you're happy with that - you should see bzr-builddeb | 21:20 |
| mtaylor | it's teh r0xr! | 21:20 |
| domas | hehe | 21:20 |
| domas | I've spent quite some time today thinking how to untangle imagemagick package in ubuntu | 21:21 |
| domas | I guess I'll just completely rebuild it | 21:21 |
| domas | it is the kind of package where everything goes to .diff.gz | 21:21 |
| domas | no dpatch | 21:21 |
| mtaylor | oh yuck | 21:21 |
| domas | and they've been backporting three years of patches | 21:21 |
| mtaylor | I'm a big dpatch fan | 21:21 |
| mtaylor | omg | 21:21 |
| domas | in imagemagick. | 21:21 |
| domas | so, no wonder ubuntu imagemagick is now 3 years old | 21:22 |
| mtaylor | I'll say | 21:22 |
| mtaylor | I'd say just start from scratch and do a new one with dpatch | 21:22 |
| domas | well, thats the real thing | 21:22 |
| mtaylor | and then try to get the deb guys to take it | 21:22 |
| domas | with new imagemagick you don't need too much patching %) | 21:22 |
| domas | most of patches are just dirty hacks to fix security bugs | 21:22 |
| domas | backporting for ages | 21:23 |
| domas | will try rolling our own packages and publishing those | 21:23 |
| mtaylor | now if only I could _ever_ convince anyone to let me be a debian dev or an ubuntu motu | 21:23 |
| domas | on which side, ab or projects? | 21:23 |
| mtaylor | sometimes I think I'd have better luck being cast in a starring role in a major hollywood film than I do getting anywhere with the maintainer processes for debian or ubuntu | 21:23 |
| domas | hah | 21:24 |
| domas | ok, new problem: | 21:24 |
| domas | Signer has no upload rights at all to this distribution. | 21:24 |
| domas | Signer is not permitted to upload to the component 'universe' of file 'memcached_1.2.4-2wikifeisty.dsc' | 21:24 |
| domas | Not permitted to upload to the RELEASE pocket in a series in the 'SUPPORTED' state. | 21:24 |
| mtaylor | oh. | 21:24 |
| mtaylor | I think you're dputting to the wrong place | 21:24 |
| domas | the one in n00bguide :) | 21:25 |
| domas | incoming = ~wikimediabuild/ubuntu/ | 21:25 |
| mtaylor | ok | 21:25 |
| domas | should I create new project and upload into it? | 21:25 |
| domas | that 'ubuntu' scared me too :) | 21:25 |
| mtaylor | shouldn't need to | 21:25 |
| mtaylor | no, that's in mine | 21:25 |
| mtaylor | did you put that in like a [ppa] section? | 21:26 |
| domas | damn | 21:26 |
| domas | you're right | 21:26 |
| mtaylor | [ppa] | 21:26 |
| mtaylor | fqdn = ppa.launchpad.net | 21:26 |
| mtaylor | incoming = ~monty/ubuntu | 21:26 |
| mtaylor | login = anonymous | 21:26 |
| domas | I forgot to specify ppa :)) | 21:26 |
| mtaylor | and then dput ppa foo. | 21:26 |
| mtaylor | :) | 21:26 |
| domas | did I nearly hack ubuntu packages? | 21:26 |
| mtaylor | yup | 21:27 |
| domas | would be quite a typo if I had maintainer rights | 21:27 |
| mtaylor | if you were an ubuntu motu :) | 21:27 |
| domas | well, old package sucks anyway! :) | 21:27 |
| domas | this one has 2G allocations by default | 21:27 |
| mtaylor | rock! | 21:30 |
| domas | yay, accepted | 21:31 |
| ubotu | New bug: #181365 in malone "Link to CoreDump.gz is sent by e-mail when Apport bug is marked as duplicate" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181365 | 22:15 |
| Ubulette | are ppa builders broken ? | 23:55 |
| Ubulette | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/11221220/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-i386.xulrunner-1.9_1.9~b3~cvs20080108t1206%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1_CHROOTWAIT.txt.gz | 23:55 |
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