[00:12] <lime4x4> i added another hard disk to my myth box how do i change who owns it? I use gparted to format it. It's mounted at /media/sdb1 but it's owned by root i need to change it to allow mythtv to use it
[00:12] <directhex> chown to change ownership. chmod to change what given users can do
[00:13] <lime4x4> it would be sudo chown john /mnt/sdb1?
[00:14] <directhex> yes
[00:14] <lime4x4> thanks
[00:33] <rhpot1991> !log
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[00:36] <levander> Okay, how do I get to the mixer in Mythbuntu?
[00:36] <levander> I've got some hum from my speakers I want to try to get rid of.
[00:36] <lime4x4> in a terminal type alsamixer i think
[00:36] <levander> In Ubuntu with Gnome, there was just some speaker icon I clicked on to get to the mixer.
[00:36] <levander> lime4x4: Cool, gimme a sec to try.
[00:37] <lime4x4> you might need to use groud islolation cables to get rid of the hum that's what i had to do
[00:37] <levander> ground isolation cables? wtf?
[00:38] <rhpot1991> random crashes == fun
[00:38] <lime4x4> radioshack has them
[00:38] <levander> how much?
[00:38] <lime4x4> what happens is u have feedback from to powered devices
[00:38] <lime4x4> i think they were under 15 bucks
[00:39] <lime4x4> they make a kit with the 1/8th stereo plug adaptor
[00:39] <rhpot1991> what are they, just some fancy cables with extra protection?
[00:39] <levander> You know, I had mythbuntu on an old box that was too slow.  I just manipulated the mixer in Gnome to get rid of it.  Now I buy a new fast computer, and I have to buy ground isolation cables.
[00:39] <levander> And, I can't get rid of blurry tickers on CNBC.
[00:39] <levander> Which were fine if I turned on deinterlacing with my old computer.
[00:40] <levander> I need someone to yell at!
[00:40] <rhpot1991> levander: alsamixer will do the same as the gnome mixer
[00:40] <lime4x4> there rca cables with a round plastic thing that isolates the ground wires
[00:40] <rhpot1991> I've used it on a box with gnome mixer before
[00:40] <lime4x4> gotta run be back later
[00:41] <Daviey> alsamixer is often better IMO
[00:41] <levander> I know there are a few different devices that the mixer operates on and you have to pick the "right" one...  I'm gonna go look at the devices in alsamixer
[00:42] <rhpot1991> I like this description "Modifying the default may have severe consequences"
[00:52] <levander> Yall really don't think it's a software thing?  It's definitely a hardware thing?
[00:53] <levander> Because, I'm thinking about re-installing vanilla Ubuntu with Gnome, then installing Mythbuntu, like I had it before.
[00:53] <levander> And see if the hum goes away that way...
[00:54] <rhpot1991> I'd try a live cd to test it
[01:01] <Daviey> levander: i wouldn't think it's mythbuntu's fault - mythbuntu is closely based on ubuntu
[01:01] <Daviey> v. closey
[01:33] <sung_> hrm
[01:33] <sung_> so, my myth box is in another room in my house
[01:33] <sung_> and i want to contorl it from another machine on my network
[02:24] <rhpot1991> sung_: you can control it over telnet
[02:24] <rhpot1991> sung_: or have the other machine be a frontend that connects to that backend
[02:26] <sung_> what can i do over a terminal?
[02:27] <sung_> is there some command line thing to control the frontend
[02:27] <sung_> eg, open up music player, and play this?
[02:27] <rhpot1991> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Telnet_socket
[02:27] <sung_> ah!
[02:27] <sung_> thanks!
[02:28] <rhpot1991> http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-11.html#ss11.6
[02:28] <rhpot1991> that too
[02:28] <rhpot1991> np
[02:28] <sung_> i was hoping for something a bit more abstract
[02:28] <rhpot1991> does the other computer run linux?
[02:29] <rhpot1991> actually that idea wont work anyways
[02:30] <rhpot1991> you could prob code up some web interface to send telnet commands
[02:30] <sung_> i was thinking about just doing it all via vnc
[02:30] <sung_> and that's good if i'm on the local network
[02:30] <sung_> only issue would be the crazy resolution
[02:30] <rhpot1991> so the backend should do the playing and it should happen on the tv that its connected to right?
[02:31] <sung_> right.
[02:31] <sung_> but i'm not in the same room
[02:31] <rhpot1991> or should the tv output happen on the one doing the commands
[02:31] <sung_> and for the most part, i just want to control it for playing music
[02:31] <sung_> i'm guessing the best thing to do is just play music via mpg123
[02:31] <rhpot1991> if its just music its a lot easier
[02:31] <sung_> any good curses mp3 players you can think of that support playlists and hte like?
[02:32] <rhpot1991> just use a music player (pleanty of them, rhythmbox is good) and control it with vnc or nx (http://www.nomachine.com/) or something
[02:32] <rhpot1991> heck there might be some sort of network hookins for some of the music players
[02:35] <rhpot1991> xmms isn't bad either
[02:35] <rhpot1991> those are about the only 2 I ever used
[02:59] <Benny_132> hi all i jsut wanted to no i wanna setup mythbuntu but i only want to use it for mythvideo i dont need to record any shows just like it how organised mythvideo is will i need a tv tuner card and how would i connect it to my 32" lcd tv ???
[03:09] <rhpot1991> you don't need a tuner if you aren't going to record
[03:09] <rhpot1991> and you can hookup by using some method of output from your video card
[03:54] <Dr_willis> I use MythTV on several machines just to give me a video player front end for the TV.
[03:54] <Dr_willis> none have tuners.
[04:18] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. All my channels have a callsign and name of   like  "Adding Channel 2" - I see in Mythweb where i can correct this, But whats the differnce btween the callsign and name?    callsign is like 'NICK" and Name would be "Kickalodian" ?
[04:22] <pdragon> i think the callsign is the short abbreviation it shows in mythweb
[04:22] <pdragon> name is the long full name of the channel
[04:22] <pdragon> if it has one
[04:23] <Dr_willis> Ok. :) not wanting to mess things up.  i see that ONE channel did get its name and description right.. 1 out of 60 heh.
[04:23] <Dr_willis> and its the "Info Channel" that is just banner ads all day. heh heh.
[04:23] <pdragon> i would get that if i just tried to get the channels right from the tuner and not schedules direct
[04:24] <Dr_willis> Well it was Schedules Direct that some how messed up.
[04:24] <Dr_willis> I may try deleting the  listing, and readding it - i guess.. that might get it going easier.
[04:24] <Dr_willis> not sure how safe it is to do this with mythweb while its recording.
[04:25] <pdragon> changing the name and callsign shouldn't affect anything
[04:52] <rhpot1991> callsign for me is stuff like WGAL
[04:52] <rhpot1991> their broadcast name or whatever
[04:57] <Dr_willis> Ok. :) well off to Station  ZZz. for some Comercial Free Sleep.
[05:27] <javatexan> howdy all...I am happier...been writing code all day.....yeeeehaw! :))
[05:27] <rhpot1991> javatexan: mess with transcode at all?
[05:28] <rhpot1991> it has the ability to do mpeg4 out of the box (xvid I believe)
[05:28] <javatexan> funny you ask....been failing miserably all day at it
[05:28] <rhpot1991> strange, how does it fail?
[05:28] <javatexan> I have everything about good, but I am still trying to take mpeg files from another source outside of mythtv and have mythtv mark commercials and transcode to another format like h.264....anyone been down this path before?
[05:28] <rhpot1991> and did you enable transcoding on the backend?
[05:28] <javatexan> not it....me....
[05:28] <rhpot1991> hmmm, I dunno about feeding it a video from a different source
[05:29] <javatexan> the files i have don't come from BE source, so its not in db to to the transcode
[05:29] <javatexan> if I could fool it into thinkin it made the mpeg filles ....then maybe
[05:30] <javatexan> could I copy the files to the recording folder and run some script to add them to the db...like findOrphans.pl and then run the transcode stuff?
[05:30] <rhpot1991> well youcan drop a file in and add it as a recording
[05:31] <rhpot1991> there is a 'myth.rebuilddatabase.pl' in the contrib folder
[05:31] <javatexan> Ill look at it
[05:31] <rhpot1991> myth.rebuilddatabase.pl --file MyVideo.avi
[05:32] <javatexan> okay now we are getting somewhere
[05:32] <rhpot1991> should add it to your recordings, then theoretically you can go in and make new cut points by hand and trim the commercials out
[05:32] <rhpot1991> and then transcode it
[05:32] <rhpot1991> provided it doesn't blow up at your source at some point
[05:32] <rhpot1991> I've used it to bring old recordings back in
[05:32] <javatexan> LOL...no joke
[05:33] <rhpot1991> in order to transcode you have to hit the checkbox in mythtv-setup that enable transcoding
[05:33] <rhpot1991> 4 or 5 pages in on the general menu
[05:33] <rhpot1991> same place you enable user jobs
[05:34] <javatexan> okay...how many processes should I have in the BE....right now I have 1 i think, but I have Core DUO 2.2 GHz and 2GB ram...what do you think?
[05:34] <javatexan> i want 10....naw....LOL
[05:35] <rhpot1991> I do all my transcoding on an amd 1900+
[05:35] <rhpot1991> works good enough for me
[05:35] <rhpot1991> you can set up new recordings to transcode automagically
[05:35] <rhpot1991> wont help you with the imported ones, but its good to know
[05:36] <rhpot1991> core 2 duo should be more than enough for anything you throw at it, just let it pound through one at a time
[08:15] <henkpoley> My mythtranscode started from MythArchive is trashing (swapping)
[08:15] <henkpoley> Is here anything I can do to prevent that?
[08:15] <henkpoley> And what would be usefull dumps for a bugreport?
[08:41] <henkpoley> Nobody here?
[09:38] <Ethan> good morning :)
[09:40] <Ethan> i still have hundreds of scanned channels in myth and its very tedious to sort out the ones i want... and even after deleting the unwanted ones, i dont know an easy way of re-sorting them so that they get decent channel numbers (like 1-50 instead of 659, 10768, 65520)
[11:36] <Ethan> i guess nobody knows a really cool way of browsing & sorting 500+ chans?
[11:46] <Daviey> yeah, delete those you don't watch
[11:56] <FallenHi1okiri> what settings do I have to use to be able to scan channels (germany + dvb-s) - I only get "cannot access card" (don't know if the translation is right, I run a german gui)
[11:57] <Ethan> what do you use to scan?
[11:57] <Ethan> i'm working on german dvb-s right now
[11:57] <FallenHi1okiri> Ethan: I tryed to run scan with the myth-config
[11:58] <Ethan> i found that pretty hard to get working
[11:58] <FallenHi1okiri> I used EPG / ETI, selected dvb card and diseq -> lnb
[11:58] <Ethan> first try "scan Astra-19.2E" in the dvb-apps directory
[11:59] <Ethan> usually in /usr/share/dvb-apps/examples/scan/dvb-s or something like that
[11:59] <FallenHi1okiri> one moment please - I have to switch the dvb card in another system
[11:59] <Ethan> if you dont have that, do "sudo apt-get install dvb-apps" (or dvbapps)
[12:04] <FallenHi1okiri> Ethan: dvb-utils?
[12:04] <FallenHi1okiri> there is no dvb-apps / dvbapps
[12:05] <Ethan> yeah it might be dvb-utils
[12:05] <Ethan> i keep mixing those up
[12:06] <FallenHi1okiri> login as: blitz
[12:06] <FallenHi1okiri> blitz@fenris's password:
[12:06] <FallenHi1okiri> Linux Baldur 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686
[12:06] <FallenHi1okiri> The programs included with the Ubuntu system are free software;
[12:06] <FallenHi1okiri> the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the
[12:06] <FallenHi1okiri> individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.
[12:06] <FallenHi1okiri> Ubuntu comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by
[12:06] <FallenHi1okiri> applicable law.
[12:06] <FallenHi1okiri> To run a command as administrator (user "root"), use "sudo <command>".
[12:06] <FallenHi1okiri> See "man sudo_root" for details.
[12:06] <FallenHi1okiri> blitz@Baldur:~$ sudo apt-get install dvb-apps
[12:07] <FallenHi1okiri> [sudo] password for blitz:
[12:07] <FallenHi1okiri> Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
[12:07] <FallenHi1okiri> Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut
[12:07] <FallenHi1okiri> Reading state information... Fertig
[12:07] <FallenHi1okiri> E: Konnte Paket dvb-apps nicht finden
[12:07] <FallenHi1okiri> blitz@Baldur:~$ sudo apt-get install dvbapps
[12:07] <FallenHi1okiri> Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
[12:07] <FallenHi1okiri> Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut
[12:07] <FallenHi1okiri> Reading state information... Fertig
[12:07] <FallenHi1okiri> E: Konnte Paket dvbapps nicht finden
[12:07] <FallenHi1okiri> blitz@Baldur:~$ apt-cache search dvb-apps
[12:07] <FallenHi1okiri> blitz@Baldur:~$ apt-cache search dvb
[12:07] <FallenHi1okiri> dvb-utils - Viewer programs for DVB cards
[12:07] <FallenHi1okiri> dvbackup - backup tool using MiniDV camcorders
[12:07] <FallenHi1okiri> dvbsnoop - DVB / MPEG stream analyzer
[12:07] <directhex|bsp> that's more than a little irritating
[12:07] <Ethan> stop
[12:07] <FallenHi1okiri> dvbstream - Broadcast a DVB Transport stream over a LAN
[12:07] <FallenHi1okiri> dvbtune - Simple tuning application for DVB cards
[12:07] <FallenHi1okiri> klear - DVB TV viewer and harddisk recorder for KDE
[12:07] <FallenHi1okiri> kvdr - DVB (digital TV) Video Disk Recorder for KDE
[12:07] <FallenHi1okiri> libdvb-dev - library to tune and command Digital Video Broadcasting cards
[12:07] <Ethan> please only paste a few lines
[12:07] <FallenHi1okiri> libdvbpsi3 - library for MPEG TS and DVB PSI tables decoding and generating
[12:07] <FallenHi1okiri> libdvbpsi3-dev - development files for libdvbpsi3
[12:07] <FallenHi1okiri> libdvbpsi4 - library for MPEG TS and DVB PSI tables decoding and generating
[12:07] <FallenHi1okiri> libdvbpsi4-dev - development files for libdvbpsi4
[12:07] <FallenHi1okiri> pentanet-doc - Documentation for Pent@NET Utilities
[12:07] <FallenHi1okiri> pentanet-utils - Utilities for Pent@NET DVB Data receiving cards
[12:07] <FallenHi1okiri> tinysnmp-module-dvb - DVB Data Receiver MIB module for TinySNMP
[12:07] <FallenHi1okiri> vdr - Video Disk Recorder for DVB cards
[12:08] <FallenHi1okiri> vdr-dev - Video Disk Recorder for DVB cards
[12:08] <FallenHi1okiri> vdr-plugin-bitstreamout - Plugin for VDR to play AC3 sound over a sound card
[12:08] <FallenHi1okiri> vdr-plugin-examples - Plugins for vdr to show some possible features
[12:08] <FallenHi1okiri> vdr-
[12:08] <FallenHi1okiri> sorry
[12:08] <FallenHi1okiri> putty copied everything not the selected lines :(
[12:08] <FallenHi1okiri> do I have to close mythtv before scanning?
[12:08] <FallenHi1okiri> or stop the backend? my dvb-adapter is busy
[12:08] <FallenHi1okiri> Ethan: I wanted to paste 2 lines with the exact error message - didin't recognize that putty copied _everything_ in the session to my clipboard
[12:08] <Ethan> i guess he hit "paste" accidentally with a big buffer :(
[12:09] <Ethan> in putty, the lines are copied automatically as soon as you mark them. dont use "copy"
[12:09] <Ethan> when using scan, you need to stop the myth-backend first
[12:10] <FallenHi1okiri> Ethan: wheres the dvb-utils directory?
[12:10] <Ethan> only one dvb-application can use the card at one time... either myth, or scan, or kaffeine, mplayer, etc. etc.
[12:10] <Ethan> fallen: i already told you further up
[12:10] <FallenHi1okiri> ah - didn't se the line sorry
[12:11] <FallenHi1okiri> another possible location? it's not in /usr/share
[12:11] <Ethan> actuially i think its /usr/share/doc/dvb-something
[12:11] <FallenHi1okiri> jep. doc is right
[12:12] <Ethan> (whetever the guy was smoking who puts utilities into a doc directory...)
[12:12] <FallenHi1okiri> scan is running :)
[12:13] <Ethan> good... pipe the output into something like myscan.conf
[12:14] <Ethan> "scan Astra-19.2E > mychannels.conf"
[12:14] <Ethan> it will run for 10 minutes or so
[12:14] <FallenHi1okiri> hm. if I'd know that I'd copied my channels.conf form vdr
[12:14] <Ethan> then copy that file to somewhere with a short path (like /tmp) because you need to enter the path manually in myth
[12:15] <Ethan> then import that channels.comf into myth
[12:15] <Ethan> i dont know if the vdr channels.conf is the same format, you could try
[12:15] <Ethan> i'm just telling you what i did yesterday
[12:15] <FallenHi1okiri> hm. it's a old channels.conf... and 10 minutes are okay :)
[12:16] <Ethan> but after scanning again in myth i anded up with 1200 channels and it takes hours to sort them
[12:16] <FallenHi1okiri> I know that from vdr :)
[12:16] <FallenHi1okiri> how do I import the channels.conf?
[12:16] <Ethan> i'm still looking for an easy way to view, test, sort, edit the channels
[12:17] <Ethan> you go to mythtv-setup, video input (or so), where you could do a scan
[12:17] <Ethan> and change the "method" from "full frew scan" to "import channels.conf"
[12:17] <Ethan> frew=freq
[12:18] <Ethan> always stop mythbackend before running mythtv-setup
[12:18] <FallenHi1okiri> hm... I thing I should start vnc - my tvout is not the best way to work on a setup
[12:18] <FallenHi1okiri> or better my tv is not the newest one and I can hardly read something
[12:18] <Ethan> also make sure to configure disecq - i have a quad LNB so i selected "universal - european"
[12:19] <FallenHi1okiri> I got a quad lnb connected to a multisync
[12:19] <Ethan> multiswitch?
[12:19] <FallenHi1okiri> yes
[12:19] <Ethan> thats just what i have too
[12:19] <FallenHi1okiri> great :)
[12:20] <Ethan> another tip: open a terminal window (xshell) and run mythfrondend or mythsetup from that - that way you'll see error messages on the console
[12:20] <FallenHi1okiri> hm. how do I enable vnc form command line?
[12:20] <Ethan> thats how i saw the "diseq not conf'd" message
[12:20] <Ethan> hm... dunno
[12:22] <Ethan> dont you have another monitor? hook it to your mythtv box and get everything running that way before you try using tv-out
[12:23] <FallenHi1okiri> hm. I hope it doesn't kill my configuration. first time I tryed this I didn't get my tvout working with a connected monitor
[12:25] <Ethan> what video card?
[12:25] <FallenHi1okiri> ati radeon 9000
[12:25] <FallenHi1okiri> monitor connected - rebooting :)
[12:26] <FallenHi1okiri> ah - tvout isn't working if a monitor is connected via dvi - analog + tvout work
[12:28] <Ethan> okay, then it sould work again when you disconnect the monitor, right?
[12:29] <Ethan> damn, drilled a 12mm hole through the wall but cant cet my rj45 plug through :(
[12:29] <Ethan> need 15mm
[12:29] <directhex|bsp> snip & re-crimp!
[12:31] <Ethan> yeah i guess i'll have to...
[12:31] <Ethan> but i'm too lazy :P
[12:31] <Ethan> i've been living with the cable going through 2 doors for a year now^^
[12:33] <FallenHi1okiri> Ethan: I tryed to import it but it doesn't add channels
[12:34] <Ethan> after import, do a mythfilldatabase
[12:34] <Ethan> but start the backend again first
[12:38] <FallenHi1okiri> no. still no tv
[12:40] <Ethan> what do you mean "no tv", what exactly are you doing?
[12:41] <Ethan> when importing the channels.conf in mythtv-setup, you can see if its doing something or not
[12:41] <Ethan> if not, then check the file path and contents
[12:42] <FallenHi1okiri> Ethan: file path and contents are okay but I don't get a output
[12:43] <FallenHi1okiri> found my mistake.
[12:43] <Ethan> output of what?
[12:44] <FallenHi1okiri> there happend nothing when I tryed to import my channels - I used mythtv-setup -> edit channels -> channel scan and not link -> chanelscan.
[12:44] <FallenHi1okiri> now he's importing my channels.conf
[12:44] <Ethan> hm... i thought those were the same menus... just in different places
[12:44] <FallenHi1okiri> after that I have to run a mythfilldatabase and start the backend and then I should be able to watch tv, right?
[12:44] <FallenHi1okiri> I thought so, too
[12:45] <Ethan> first start backend, then mythfilldatabase. oh yes and for "tv guide sorce" select "epg only" (at least thats what i did)
[12:45] <FallenHi1okiri> I did this, too
[12:45] <Ethan> then mythfilldb should take about 5 mins
[12:46] <Ethan> funny, on knoppmyth (which i tried first), there was a German "xmlsomething" but not in mythbuntu
[12:47] <FallenHi1okiri> hm. maybe a tvtv.de integration?
[12:47] <Ethan> tvmovie.de i think
[12:48] <Ethan> oh well... epg is all i need
[12:48] <FallenHi1okiri> I use EPG for ~4-6 years now and I'm still happy with ti :)
[12:50] <FallenHi1okiri> hm. importing takes long
[12:53] <Ethan> yes, maybe 10-15mins
[12:53] <Ethan> it scans as it imports
[12:54] <Ethan> i need to do some shopping... back later
[12:55] <FallenHi1okiri> Ethan: works, thanks :) hf
[13:05] <FallenHi1okiri>  14:04:53 up 38 min,  4 users,  load average: 5.41, 3.63, 2.50
[13:05] <FallenHi1okiri> my load seems a bit high - and tv playback is not smooth - I guess 15-18fps
[13:06] <FallenHi1okiri> it's a 2.6ghz celeron with 1gb ram
[14:15] <rhpot1991> anyone see this: http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/directvs-pc-tuner-is-real/
[15:23] <Ethan> fallen: make sure you are using xv
[15:23] <Ethan> otherwise ...um... you're gone, ok
[16:30] <Aquahallic> Mornin' folks
[16:36]  * Dr_willis injects coffee...
[16:37] <Dr_willis> Saw at the gas station they have 'Power Coffe' In the electric blue Pot!   - I aint going near that stuff. :P
[16:37] <ner000> Hi Has anyone managed to get the Nebula Digitv remote working?
[16:57] <Aquahallic> when running a slave backend... if all my capture cards are in my master backend... should I also setup the capture cards on the slave backend??
[17:00] <rhpot1991> why is it a backend, why not just have it as a frontend that connects to your master backend
[17:03] <Aquahallic> if it's a slave backend won't the master backend hand off jobs to it?? like transcoding and commflag jobs?
[17:03] <Aquahallic> or am I mistaken about this??
[17:12] <rhpot1991> commflag yes
[17:12] <rhpot1991> transcoding can only happen on the backend that has the files
[17:12] <rhpot1991> unless you have some nfs share setup to share the files, then it might work
[17:12] <Aquahallic> yup
[17:12] <Aquahallic> I do
[17:13] <Aquahallic> I have my master backend mounted to a 500 gig drive for my /var/lib/mythtv dir
[17:13] <Aquahallic> then I export that out... and mount it as a NFS share for my slave backend
[17:13] <Aquahallic> so to the slave it "looks like" it's a local folder
[17:14] <Aquahallic> I just figured since my slave is a 2.6 gig p4 it was a shame to just "waste" those resources
[17:17] <MythbuntuGuest01> hello need help
[17:18] <Dr_willis> "Please state the nature of the mythubuntu emergancy"
[17:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[17:19] <MythbuntuGuest01> is a 800MHz enough to record tv?
[17:19] <MythbuntuGuest01> :)
[17:21] <Dr_willis> Hmm... interesting question.. I dont know. :)
[17:22] <Dr_willis> I think my main box cpu's is running about at 1000, for powersavings most of the time. But if you start recording then transcode/tag cmercials.. it may not be enough.
[17:22] <MythbuntuGuest01> ok, but perhaps someone else have the answer?
[17:22] <Dr_willis> One way to find out.
[17:22] <Dr_willis> try it and see if it works. :) or check the forums - 800 is a bit low im thinking.
[17:23] <MythbuntuGuest01> yes but my usb stick doent work fopr linux i have a pci card but its in other pc and i will be sure that its enugh
[17:24] <rhpot1991> does your tuner have hardware encoding?
[17:24] <MythbuntuGuest01> i think no
[17:26] <MythbuntuGuest01> its a 310i from pinac or something like that
[17:26] <Aquahallic> if you're not using hardware encoding then 800 mhz is probably too low... when using a card that has an encoder onboard you offload the strain to the card freeing up the cpu for other processes
[17:27] <MythbuntuGuest01> ah ok thanks now i seach for my card, but i think it hasnt a hardware encouder
[17:29] <MythbuntuGuest01> i found, it has only a software encoder.. :(
[17:29] <MythbuntuGuest01> to record tv what cpu speed do i need?
[17:30] <MythbuntuGuest01> with no hardware encoder?
[17:30] <Aquahallic> well.... you can try it... I'd set it up and get it recording a tv program.. then run 'top' and you can see your cpu usage
[17:31] <rhpot1991> I think I've seen 1ghz somewhere as a recommended limit
[17:31] <rhpot1991> can't recall where though
[17:31] <Dr_willis> yea i was thinking 1 ghz as a min.
[17:32] <MythbuntuGuest01> ok thanks..... do the 310i card work for with linux/ubuntu?
[17:32] <Aquahallic> I'm running a 2.4 gig as my backend.. with a hardware encoder capture card... I'm currently watching a livetv program and my cpu is only at 4% useage
[17:33] <MythbuntuGuest01> oh thats good, but my main computer cpu is so fast and not there for record :)
[17:36] <MythbuntuGuest01> do someone know that the 310i fron pina or so work with ubuntu?
[17:36] <MythbuntuGuest01> +cle
[17:40] <MythbuntuGuest01> it where better for me that my usb stick work but with the firmweware version found he no channels.....because the driver is only for usb 2.0 and not for 1.1 ....
[17:42] <MythbuntuGuest01> ok i must go, thanks for you help... bye
[17:43] <wweasel> Hello, I just installed Mythbuntu and am having some trouble. "Watch TV" returns: "Could not connect ot the master backend server -- is it running? Is the IP address set for it in the setup program correctly?
[17:43] <wweasel> This is a standard Backend/Frontend install
[17:44] <wweasel> Is there anyone here who could help me out?
[17:45] <Aquahallic> have you gone into setup and populated the IP of your machine??
[17:45] <wweasel> I suspect that my problem is because I set a password for the MySQL database (I intend to add another frontend), but haven't entered that password anywhere, so it can't connect.
[17:45] <Aquahallic> you have to tell the frontend the info of the backend
[17:46] <Aquahallic> it's in setup under general when you're in the frontend
[17:46] <wweasel> Aquahallic: It's set to loopback, 127.0.0.1
[17:46] <Aquahallic> do you have a static IP??
[17:47] <wweasel> Aquahallic: huh? It's a combined master backend/frontend.
[17:47] <wweasel> the local loopback should work fine
[17:47] <rhpot1991> loopback is fine as long as the frontend is on the same box
[17:47] <Aquahallic> it really doesn't have an impact here
[17:47] <rhpot1991> did you enter your mysql password into the setup?
[17:48] <wweasel> rhpot1991: Yes, I did. As I said before, I suspect that's the problem.
[17:48] <wweasel> rhpot1991: Can't figure out where to tell MythTV the password though...
[17:49] <Aquahallic> where you have the IP populated as 127.0.0.1 there's a user and password blank
[17:49] <rhpot1991> ya
[17:49] <wweasel> Aquahallic: oh!
[17:49] <Aquahallic> ;)
[17:50] <rhpot1991> might want to verify that username and password work properly on the mythconverg db if you created it by hand
[17:50] <wweasel> Aquahallic: Hmmm...I don't see it. I'm in MythTV Setup, under 1. General ?
[17:51] <Aquahallic> yes
[17:51] <Aquahallic> see where it says.. Hostname
[17:51] <Aquahallic> that's your 127.0.0.1 right?
[17:51] <wweasel> First page is "Host Address Backend Setup"
[17:51] <Aquahallic> ahhhh
[17:51] <Aquahallic> you're in mythtv-setup
[17:52] <Aquahallic> you need to be in the frontend
[17:52] <Aquahallic> then.. Util/setup
[17:52] <Aquahallic> setup
[17:52] <Aquahallic> general
[17:52] <wweasel> Sorry. I'm embarassed at how much trouble I'm having with this :P
[17:53] <wweasel> Should user remain mythtv? (I'm assuming so, because I didn't change that manually)
[17:55] <wweasel> hmmm...it seems my meddling has done me worse.
[17:57] <wweasel> rhpot1991: You suggested that I "might want to verify that username and password work properly on mythconverg db" - how do I go about doing that?
[17:57] <rhpot1991> mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg
[17:58] <rhpot1991> I'm assuming you just changed the password for mythtv?
[17:58] <rhpot1991> also how did you go about changing it?
[17:59] <wweasel> In the installation dialogs on the Mythbuntu LiveCD, it suggested I add a password if I intend to put access the DB over the network. So I put one in the textbox.
[17:59] <rhpot1991> hmmm (not positive) but that should work for you
[17:59] <rhpot1991> try that command and see if it works
[17:59] <wweasel> rhpot1991: It seems like I've created myself a problem. I get "Access denied"
[17:59] <Aquahallic> it should be mythtv as user and password should be the password you created
[18:00] <wweasel> rhpot1991: Perhaps I typo'd it. There wasn't a confirm password box, so...gah, that would be pretty silly.
[18:01] <Aquahallic> populate that.. then next through all the rest... then reboot the box... your frontend will fireup... when it does.... exit out of frontend.. if you don't get an error saying it can't connect to the backend you're in good shape
[18:01] <wweasel> Aquahallic: I think I need to reset the password. I can't get into the DB.
[18:01] <Aquahallic> try... mysql -u root -p mythconverg
[18:01] <rhpot1991> that text is stored somewhere
[18:01] <Aquahallic> maybe you set the root password and not the mythtv user
[18:02] <rhpot1991> let me poke around and see if I can remember
[18:02] <rhpot1991> I think MCC should set the mythtv one, though I've never used it to do so
[18:02] <Aquahallic> try the user as root and not mythtv with that command line string
[18:03] <Aquahallic> if that gets you in.. you can set the mythtv password then
[18:03] <rhpot1991> /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[18:04] <Aquahallic> I think that's the password that mythtv uses.. not the password the mysql db is set at
[18:04] <wweasel> what the hell...ok, i tried disabling MySQL Service from the MCC, then re-enabling it. Well, after disabling it it I shades out the box and can't be re-enabled... Think it removed the package. What packaged do I install?
[18:05] <Aquahallic> in the mythbuntu control center?
[18:05] <wweasel> this is ridiculous :(
[18:05] <Aquahallic> under services??? you set the mysql to disabled?
[18:05] <wweasel> i just did that.
[18:05] <Aquahallic> ok... that's just the ethernet interface
[18:05] <wweasel> oh
[18:05] <rhpot1991> thats where it stores the default password, I'm not sure if it updates it if you change it via MCC or not, its worth him checking to see if he typo'd though
[18:05] <Aquahallic> "I think"
[18:05] <wweasel> why doesn't it let me re-enable it? :P
[18:06] <rhpot1991> wweasel: try to close MCC and open it back up?
[18:06] <wweasel> DBPassword is set to 8 alphanumeric characters bearing no resembance to the password I set :P
[18:06] <Aquahallic> try opening a CLI then try... /etc/init.d/mysql status
[18:07] <rhpot1991> can prob ignore that then, its the default one myth would have used
[18:07] <Aquahallic> as root
[18:08] <wweasel> Aquahallic: yeah, it says it's running. Uptime: 26 min, etc.
[18:09] <Aquahallic> ok.. then you only removed the server interface that allows mysql to listen on a tcp port
[18:09] <rhpot1991> and lost the password you set
[18:09] <Aquahallic> fix the issue of the frontend not connecting to backend first
[18:09] <wweasel> :(
[18:10] <wweasel> thank you so much for your help, you two
[18:10] <rhpot1991> hold up
[18:10] <rhpot1991> you set up anything yet or not really?
[18:10] <wweasel> nope.
[18:10] <wweasel> time for a reinstall?
[18:10] <rhpot1991> I think if you reconfigure the db it will ask you for the password again
[18:10] <wweasel> ok
[18:11] <Aquahallic> try mysql -u root mythconverg
[18:11] <rhpot1991> sudo dpgk-reconfigure mythtv-database
[18:11] <Aquahallic> and try the password you set during setup
[18:11] <rhpot1991> do what Aquahallic says first
[18:12] <Aquahallic> if you can get in like that.. then you can set the mythtv user password
[18:12] <rhpot1991> if thats the case then the password in that txt might be your mythtv password, you can try that too
[18:13] <wweasel> dpkg-reconfigure failed. "It's also possible that mysql-server wasn't running"
[18:14] <wweasel> oh wait!
[18:14] <wweasel> aha!
[18:14] <Aquahallic> you removed mysql server
[18:14] <wweasel> it worked when i typed in the password that i set on install
[18:14] <Aquahallic> that's the tcp interface
[18:14] <Aquahallic> ok
[18:14] <Aquahallic> one sec
[18:14] <rhpot1991> you set the root then
[18:14] <rhpot1991> get that password from the txt file I told you
[18:14] <rhpot1991> thats your mythtv user password
[18:15]  * rhpot1991 wonders why dpkg failed though...
[18:15] <wweasel> I hadn't typed in the password for the root account on mysql
[18:15] <wweasel> "mysql -u root -p mythconverg" works, "mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg" doesn't.
[18:15] <rhpot1991> ya
[18:15] <wweasel> when typing in the password that i set.
[18:15] <rhpot1991> cause you set the root password
[18:15] <rhpot1991> go to /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[18:16] <rhpot1991> thats your mythtv password
[18:16] <Aquahallic> because mysql-server isn't installed anymore
[18:16] <rhpot1991> Aquahallic: how isn't it installed if he just connected with root?
[18:16] <Aquahallic> when he set it to disabled.. it uninstaled the mysql server
[18:16] <rhpot1991> he just disabled the service
[18:16] <Aquahallic> no no
[18:16] <Aquahallic> not mysql... only mysql SERVER
[18:16] <wweasel> Aquahallic: you're right!
[18:17] <Aquahallic> that's the portion that lets mysql listen on a tcp port
[18:17] <Aquahallic> I know... I've been sitting RIGHT where YOU ARE!
[18:17] <Aquahallic> lol
[18:17] <Aquahallic> :P
[18:18] <Aquahallic> now.. when you go to connect another backend on the network to this master.. you'll need to re-install mysql server so it will listen on a tcp port for connections
[18:18] <wweasel> Aquahallic: Alright, apt-get install'd it. "/etc/init.d/mysql-server start" ?
[18:18] <Aquahallic> don't worry about that right now
[18:18] <Aquahallic> get your frontend connected to the backend FIRST!
[18:18] <wweasel> ok
[18:18] <Aquahallic> shoot at one problem at a time
[18:19] <Aquahallic> :P
[18:19] <prekitt> How do I configure my serial ir receiver to mythbuntu, I have a homebrew ir receiver/blaster?
[18:19] <prekitt> am Not sure how to enable lirc_serial kernel module
[18:19] <Aquahallic> the serial on lirc that comes packaged with mythbuntu is broke
[18:19] <Aquahallic> I have a serial homebrew myself
[18:20] <Aquahallic> you have to install the pre-release of lirc 0.8.3 I think it is
[18:20] <wweasel> Aquahallic: Since I installed mysql-server, mysql is throwing an error message.
[18:20] <Aquahallic> yeah.. it's not configured yet
[18:20] <wweasel> Ok
[18:20] <wweasel> So how do I proceed?
[18:21] <Aquahallic> hold... I'mma piss myself...LMAO
[18:21] <Aquahallic> brnbb
[18:21] <Aquahallic> brb
[18:21] <wweasel> * MySQL is stopped.
[18:21] <wweasel> kk
[18:22] <prekitt> Aquahallic, did you get it to work with that?
[18:23] <wweasel> rhpot1991: I'm back where we were.
[18:23] <Aquahallic> yes... the pre-release of lirc works with serial homebrew
[18:24] <wweasel> rhpot1991: MySQL root works with the password I set. user "mythtv" doesn't work with either password, not mine nor the one in mysql.txt
[18:25] <wweasel> I'm assuming I don't want to tell MythTV to connect to MySQL as root. Seems wrong :P So, how to go about connecting as mythtv?
[18:25] <wweasel> (btw, the problem with the ethernet interface is solved)
[18:26] <Aquahallic> wweasel go read this URL....
[18:26] <Aquahallic> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-360401.html
[18:27] <Aquahallic> that shows you how to reset the mythtv user password on mysql
[18:27] <Aquahallic> :)
[18:28] <rhpot1991> can also do it in phpmyadmin if you have that installed
[18:28] <wweasel> Aquahallic: excellent. thanks :)
[18:28] <Aquahallic> np
[18:28] <Aquahallic> lemme know how you makeout
[18:29] <Aquahallic> :)
[18:29] <rhpot1991> I'm not sure why the password in the txt file shouldn't work if your password was the root one, but oh well
[18:29] <rhpot1991> I know one guy had a problem distinguishing between an O and a 0 before
[18:29] <Aquahallic> that .txt file.. is the password you setup in the frontend
[18:29] <rhpot1991> took a whole day working on stuff and he realized it
[18:29] <Aquahallic> it's a plain txt file..
[18:30] <rhpot1991> Aquahallic: thats the password that mythtv generates for you mythtv mysql user, normally
[18:30] <Aquahallic> you edit that file with the user and passord that you have SET
[18:30] <Aquahallic> yes... but if he's changed it in the frontend setup.. it gonna be what he set it to... and not what the actual user/pass is on the db itself
[18:30] <rhpot1991> ah ok, I see what you are saying
[18:30] <Aquahallic> ;)
[18:31] <rhpot1991> it is by default, but then he changed it
[18:31] <Aquahallic> that's what the frontend USES to authenticate.. not what the mythtv password actually IS on the db
[18:31] <Aquahallic> by default on a new install.. mythbuntu will set that to whatever it's set the mythtv user to
[18:32] <Aquahallic> but if he's changed it... then it's whatever he's changed it TO.. .thus the frontend not connecting...:)
[18:32] <rhpot1991> yep
[18:33] <Aquahallic> so his BEST bet is to login as root to mysql and change the mythtv password.. then go set that .txt file to reflect the same
[18:33] <wweasel> Aquahallic: I successfully changed the password. But mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg still doesn't work with the new password :P
[18:33] <Aquahallic> did you restart mysql?
[18:33] <wweasel> oh, nope!
[18:33] <Aquahallic> :P
[18:34] <rhpot1991> ya restart it to reload the privs
[18:34] <wweasel> ok, trying that.
[18:34] <Aquahallic> NOT mysql-server
[18:34] <Aquahallic> only mysql
[18:34] <Aquahallic> server has nothing to do with this
[18:35] <wweasel> AHA! Success
[18:35] <Aquahallic> :P
[18:35] <rhpot1991> also an interesting note, if you use the -p flag with mysql it will ask for a password first before it even tries a connetion, so that doesn't guarantee you are able to hit it
[18:35] <wweasel> mysql-server is working fine now.
[18:35] <Aquahallic> NOW
[18:35] <Aquahallic> go edit that mysql txt file to reflect the mythtv user and pass you just set
[18:36] <Aquahallic> then reboot that box and let everything loadup again
[18:36] <directhex> be sure to edit the file in /etc/mythtv and remove local copies in ~/.mythtv
[18:37] <wweasel> mmm, the tension is building :)
[18:37] <Aquahallic> lol
[18:39] <wweasel> not really working
[18:40] <Aquahallic> to enable mysql-server to listen for IP connections you'll have to edit /etc/mysql/my.cnf and change the 'bind-address' from 127.0.0.1 to an the IP of your backend server
[18:40] <Aquahallic> how ya mean?
[18:40] <Aquahallic> did the frontend fireup?
[18:40] <wweasel> yep!
[18:40] <wweasel> shows me all the correct information
[18:40] <wweasel> localhost, mythconverg, user=mythtv, password is correct...
[18:41] <wweasel> hit Next>, Next> and nothing happens.
[18:41] <Aquahallic> ok... now... next through all that
[18:41] <Aquahallic> then you'll be back to your frontend menu
[18:41] <wweasel> nope, just closes.
[18:41] <Aquahallic> what just closes?
[18:41] <Aquahallic> the frontend?
[18:41] <wweasel> the frontend
[18:42] <rhpot1991> I wonder if the db didn't get created or something
[18:42] <wweasel> "mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg" works.
[18:42] <Aquahallic> he can login to it so I'd think it did
[18:42] <wweasel> mythfilldatabsae doesn't
[18:42] <Aquahallic> hmmm.... mine did that....
[18:42]  * Aquahallic tries to remember what it was....:/
[18:42] <wweasel> Access denied for user.
[18:43] <Aquahallic> you get that when trying to login to the db as mythtv and using the password you created for it?
[18:44] <wweasel> Nope
[18:44] <wweasel> That works fine
[18:44] <wweasel> "mythfilldatabase" throws an error
[18:44] <Aquahallic> hrm
[18:44] <wweasel> Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[18:46] <Aquahallic> g'friend is watching tv so I can't go into my backend setup
[18:47] <wweasel> lol
[18:47] <Aquahallic> run through mythtv backend setup again... make sure everything is populated correctly
[18:47] <Aquahallic> one suggestion though!
[18:47] <Aquahallic> if you're going to be connecting other frontends to this... set a static IP
[18:48] <wweasel> i have a static IP
[18:48] <Aquahallic> then put the static IP in all the blanks that you have 127.0.0.1
[18:48] <Aquahallic> ok
[18:48] <Aquahallic> then...
[18:48] <Aquahallic> run the backend setup again
[18:48] <wweasel> can't even get into the backend setup
[18:48] <Aquahallic> is the backend running?
[18:49] <Aquahallic> do this
[18:49] <Aquahallic> backout of the frontend
[18:50] <wweasel> right now i'm at the desktop
[18:50] <Aquahallic> at the desktop go into Applications/settings/mythtbackend setup
[18:50] <wweasel> that's what i've tried
[18:51] <Aquahallic> and what does it do when you try that?
[18:51] <wweasel> "Mythbackend must be closed before continuing. Is it OK to close any rcurrently running mythbackend processes?" -> OK.
[18:52] <Aquahallic> it should popup after that
[18:52] <Aquahallic> unless that mythfilldatabase has something hungup
[18:52] <Aquahallic> reboot that box... don't do ANYTHING but backout of the frontend.. then try to open the mythtv-setup
[18:52] <wweasel> then a terminal window opens up throwing a lot of errors, mostly the same as mythfilldatabase does, telling me it can't connect to the database. then Database Configuration pops up, just like with the frontend.
[18:53] <Aquahallic> is mysql running?
[18:53] <Aquahallic> try /etc/init.d/mysql status
[18:53] <wweasel> yep
[18:53] <wweasel> rebooting
[18:53] <Aquahallic> k
[18:54] <Aquahallic> now.. when it comes up.. back right out of the frontend
[18:55] <Aquahallic> then open mythtv-setup
[18:55] <wweasel> should i open it from a terminal, so I see errout?
[18:55] <Aquahallic> if it throws that setup window up again... go through it.. and put your static IPs for that backend server in the "server ip" and for the "masterbackend ip"
[18:55]  * Aquahallic thinks that's what they're called
[18:55] <Aquahallic> lol
[18:56] <wweasel> Database Configuration again.
[18:56] <Aquahallic> ^^^
[18:56] <wweasel> put in static local IP, or local loopback 127.0.0.1?
[18:56] <Aquahallic> try what I just said
[18:56] <Aquahallic> the IP not a loopback
[18:56] <wweasel> k
[18:56] <wweasel> done
[18:56] <wweasel> still no success
[18:58] <wweasel> running mythtv-setup...
[18:58] <Aquahallic> hrm
[18:58] <wweasel> opens up database configuration again.
[18:59] <wweasel> why don't I try telling Mythtv to connect to the DB as root?
[18:59] <wweasel> still no luck
[18:59] <Aquahallic> sec... .she's done with her show.. let me get into my setup
[18:59] <wweasel> I think somehow the problem is with the ethernet interface. I can connect the db manually just fine.
[19:00] <Aquahallic> ok.. go to /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[19:00] <Aquahallic> open it
[19:00] <Aquahallic> find bind-address
[19:01] <wweasel> 127.0.0.1
[19:01] <Aquahallic> it will probably be 127.0.0.1 change it to your static IP
[19:01] <rhpot1991> when you connect to the database can you do anything on it?
[19:01] <rhpot1991> like a query or view tables or anything?
[19:01] <wweasel> rhpot1991: Don't know MySQL, haven't tried
[19:02] <Aquahallic> true... the db could be jacked
[19:03] <rhpot1991> login with mythtv
[19:03] <wweasel> can i get mythtv to restart the db from scratch?
[19:03] <rhpot1991> and do 'select * from settings;'
[19:03] <rhpot1991> I think that table should have data
[19:04] <wweasel> has a bunch of info
[19:04] <rhpot1991> then your db at least exists and your user has privs
[19:05] <wweasel> for some reason it can't connect from mythtv backend though.
[19:06] <Aquahallic> you didn't change any of those ports in the initial DB setup did you?
[19:07] <wweasel> rhpot1991: Should I dpkg-reconfigure?
[19:07] <wweasel> Aquahallic: nope!
[19:07] <Aquahallic> tell me what you have for them
[19:07] <wweasel> can't see them anymore :P
[19:07] <Aquahallic> mine is... server runs on 6453
[19:07] <wweasel> but it was 6543 i think
[19:07] <Aquahallic> shows status on 6454
[19:07] <wweasel> k
[19:08] <wweasel> that must be it
[19:08] <Aquahallic> master runs on 6543
[19:08] <Aquahallic> actually... it's 6543
[19:08] <Aquahallic> typo above
[19:08] <wweasel> lol
[19:08] <wweasel> so do we have any idea how to proceed?
[19:09] <wweasel> it seems we've hit a rut.
[19:10] <Aquahallic> try... dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database
[19:10] <Aquahallic> see if it will let you setup your db again
[19:10] <rhpot1991> make sure you run that as sudo
[19:11] <wweasel> done
[19:12] <Aquahallic> ok... reboot
[19:13] <wweasel> Aha, it worked!
[19:13] <Aquahallic> :P
[19:14] <wweasel> Now, "Could not connect to the master backend server -- is it running? Is the IP address set for it in the setup program correct?"
[19:14] <Aquahallic> is that the frontend?
[19:14] <rhpot1991> restart your backend
[19:14] <rhpot1991> sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart
[19:14] <rhpot1991> though if you just restarted you machine that shouldn't be happening.......
[19:15] <wweasel> didn't restart :P
[19:15] <rhpot1991> sorry for thinking mid point there
[19:15] <wweasel> restarted mysql only
[19:15] <Aquahallic> reboot
[19:15] <rhpot1991> ah, I saw reboot above
[19:15] <wweasel> yeah
[19:15] <wweasel> ok, ok :)
[19:15] <wweasel> i was excited, i wanted immediate results :P
[19:16] <Aquahallic> reason I said reboot... was you also set static IPs... so the mysql-server had to be restarted also... or it wouldn't bind
[19:16] <Aquahallic> :)
[19:17] <wweasel> rebooted. still "Could not connect to the master backend server" ...
[19:17] <Aquahallic> is that on the frontend?
[19:17] <wweasel> Yeah
[19:17] <wweasel> I got in though!
[19:18] <Aquahallic> ok... go through the general setup again
[19:18] <wweasel> Chose "Watch TV"
[19:18] <Aquahallic> on the frontend
[19:18] <wweasel> and error
[19:18] <wweasel> ok
[19:18] <Aquahallic> and try changing that back to 127.0.0.1
[19:18] <Aquahallic> for now
[19:18] <Aquahallic> then you can work on the mysql-server portion after you get it working
[19:19] <wweasel> Still no connecting.
[19:19] <Aquahallic> did you backout of the frontend?
[19:19] <Aquahallic> then come back in?
[19:19] <wweasel> no
[19:19] <Aquahallic> do that..
[19:19] <wweasel> Could not connect.
[19:20] <Aquahallic> you have the mythtv as user and the password you created in there?
[19:20] <wweasel> nothing just works :P
[19:20] <wweasel> yep
[19:21] <wweasel> mythfilldatabase works now
[19:21] <Aquahallic> see if you can get into mythtv-setup
[19:21] <wweasel> connects just fine
[19:22] <wweasel> oh, but "Connecting to backend server [...] Connection timed out. You probably should modify the Master Server settings in the setup program and set the proper IP address."
[19:22] <Aquahallic> :)
[19:22] <Aquahallic> try mythbackend setup again
[19:22] <wweasel> ok, i'm in mythtv-setup
[19:22] <Aquahallic> set those IPs back to 127.0.0.1 again
[19:23] <Aquahallic> let's get it working locally first.. then you can set real ips
[19:23] <Aquahallic> :)
[19:24] <wweasel> still same error :O
[19:24] <rhpot1991> did you ever get the mysql service back up?
[19:24] <rhpot1991> I haven't been paying steady attention
[19:24] <wweasel> yes
[19:24] <Aquahallic> reboot it again since you made all the changes to the backend setup
[19:25] <Aquahallic> shouldn't really need to but... since you're still getting the error let everything load back again fresh
[19:25] <wweasel> i'm still getting the "Connection timed out." error, but it is now trying 127.0.0.1 as I asked
[19:26] <wweasel> k, i'll reboot
[19:26] <wweasel> AHA!
[19:26] <wweasel> i haven't rebooted yet.
[19:26] <wweasel> but it seems like mythbackend wasn't running.
[19:26] <wweasel> and that was the cause of all my errors
[19:26] <T045T> hey, anyone wanna discuss/verify some ideas to use mythtv with a touchscreen (nothing else for input)?
[19:26] <Aquahallic> it shutsdown
[19:27] <Aquahallic> when you run mythtv-setup
[19:27] <wweasel> k, rebooting
[19:29] <wweasel> Still "Could not connect to the master backend server -- is it running?
[19:30] <wweasel> mythbackend isn't running
[19:30] <wweasel> for some reason it isn't starting on "startup"
[19:30] <Aquahallic> can you start it?
[19:30] <wweasel> This is really confusing.
[19:31] <wweasel> /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start    ->   mythbackend already running, use restart intsead
[19:31] <wweasel> /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart    ->    mythbackend No /usr/bin/mythbackend found running; none killed.
[19:32] <Dr_willis> sounds like a pid/lock file may be hanging about?
[19:32] <Aquahallic> go look at /var/log/mythbackend log and see if you find any errors
[19:32] <Dr_willis> but if none found none killed. it 'should' be strted now. :)
[19:33] <Aquahallic> I had that SAME problem with my backend and it was permissions on the /var/lib/mythtv dir screwed... I was using NFS
[19:33] <wweasel> i just tried restarting again, still says none found.
[19:34] <Aquahallic> check for any errors in /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log
[19:34] <Aquahallic> at the bottom of the file
[19:34] <wweasel> Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost'
[19:34] <wweasel> gah!
[19:34] <wweasel> what the hell :(
[19:35] <Aquahallic> try resetting that mythtv user password again
[19:35] <directhex> which mysql.txt did you change?
[19:36] <wweasel> ah, one was not fixed.
[19:36] <wweasel> it's now fixed
[19:36] <wweasel> the one in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt was still wrong
[19:36] <wweasel> reboot?
[19:36] <Aquahallic> that or restart all the services
[19:36] <Aquahallic> I'd reboot... easier
[19:36] <Aquahallic> LOL
[19:37] <wweasel> haven't rebooted yet
[19:37] <Aquahallic> in that mysql.txt file... did it have the real ip or a loopback?
[19:37] <wweasel> wrong password
[19:38] <Aquahallic> what ip though?
[19:38] <wweasel> loopback
[19:38] <Aquahallic> k
[19:38] <wweasel> hold on
[19:38] <wweasel> new error in mythbackend.log
[19:38] <wweasel> what user does mythbackend run as?
[19:38] <Aquahallic> should be mythtv
[19:39] <wweasel> ok, that's the problem
[19:39] <wweasel> hold on...just fixing folder permissions on my recordings folder
[19:39] <Aquahallic> heh.. that bit me in the arse using NFS
[19:39] <wweasel> hehe
[19:40] <Aquahallic> directhex.. does that /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt house what the backend uses to logon mysql or the frontend?
[19:40] <directhex> Aquahallic, yes
[19:40] <Aquahallic> which?
[19:40] <Aquahallic> frontend or backend?
[19:41] <directhex> both, barring overrides
[19:41] <Aquahallic> k
[19:41] <Aquahallic> and that file is populated by running the general setup in the frontend.. correct?
[19:41] <wweasel> rebooting...
[19:42] <wweasel> Aquahallic: BTW, thank you so much for all the help. you've been incredibly nice and helpful
[19:43] <wweasel> and patient!
[19:43] <Aquahallic> np... I learn things helping...;)
[19:43] <wweasel> alright, still no backend
[19:44] <Aquahallic> what's in mythbackend.log?
[19:44] <wweasel> about to check
[19:45] <wweasel>  /media/data/recordings still not writeable by user...let me fix.
[19:46] <wweasel> Aha, success.
[19:46] <Aquahallic> permissions will get ya everytime
[19:46] <Aquahallic> lol
[19:46] <wweasel> time to see if it works :P
[19:46] <Aquahallic> did me
[19:46] <Aquahallic> lol
[19:47] <wweasel> I can haz frontend?
[19:47] <wweasel> Wooo, no errors
[19:47] <wweasel> Also no video from Live TV...
[19:47] <wweasel> erm :(
[19:47] <Aquahallic> did you setup your card and video sources under backend-setup?
[19:48] <wweasel> yes
[19:48] <wweasel> though i might have gotten the us-cable thingy wrong
[19:48] <Aquahallic> what's it do when you view livetv
[19:48] <wweasel> black screen, hangs
[19:49] <Aquahallic> check your card settings in backend setup
[19:49] <Aquahallic> and your video sources
[19:49] <Aquahallic> make sure you set the right input for your capture card too...
[19:49] <wweasel> (btw, i find the interface very slow. takes a good second after i hit the up arrow before the selection moves
[19:50] <Aquahallic> check your frontend and backend logs
[19:50] <Aquahallic> I've found they hold the "Keys to the Castle"
[19:51] <Aquahallic> brb
[19:51] <wweasel> "Unknown video codec, please go into the TV Settings, Recording Profiles, and setup the four 'Software Encoders' profiles"
[19:54] <wweasel> hmm
[19:57] <Aquahallic> try just the livetv setup for now..
[19:59] <wweasel> 2008-01-08 14:57:17.574 TV Error: StartRecorder() -- timed out waiting for recorder to start
[19:59] <wweasel> googling..
[20:00] <wweasel> ah, it's setup wrong
[20:00] <Aquahallic> heh
[20:00] <Aquahallic> the capture card?
[20:00] <wweasel> yep
[20:00] <wweasel> it's not V4L
[20:00] <Aquahallic> ahh
[20:00] <Aquahallic> I'm using a hauppauge
[20:01] <wweasel> me too :)
[20:01] <Aquahallic> prolly have to go setup your video sources and all that once you finish this
[20:01] <rhpot1991> happauce doesn't use software encoders, you got something set up wrong
[20:01] <Aquahallic> yup... it's h/w encoding
[20:01] <wweasel> i had a pvr 500 as well as my pvr-150, but the pvr 500 had random failure. and hauppauge has really poor customer support. been waiting for a while to get it back from RMA.
[20:02] <rhpot1991> its listed as pvx50 or something in the setup
[20:02] <wweasel> done
[20:02] <wweasel> yeah
[20:02] <Aquahallic> recheck your video sources and all that
[20:02] <wweasel> btw, out of curiosity, should I run mythfilldatabase every single time i leave backend-setup?
[20:02] <wweasel> seems unnecessary :P
[20:03] <Aquahallic> you don't have to... but.. it doesn't hurt anything
[20:03] <wweasel> yay TV!
[20:03] <Aquahallic> lol
[20:04] <Aquahallic> NOW you get to setup the mysql-server portion when you go to connect a slave or remote frontend
[20:04] <Aquahallic> :)
[20:04] <Aquahallic> that part's fairly simple though
[20:05] <wweasel> mmm
[20:05] <wweasel> mythtv certainly isn't easy to set up.
[20:05] <Aquahallic> just go through the backend setup again and change those loopbacks to the real ips... and edit that /etc/mysql/my.cnf bind-address on the masterbackend
[20:06] <wweasel> (I've been with GBPVR for years, but hate having to administer a Windows PC. And I'd like to get a second frontend, which nothing does as well as mythtv)
[20:07] <Aquahallic> mythbuntu was cake to setup.... it all pretty much worked out of the box for me.. 'cept I have a legacy nvidia and had to get that straightened out.. and the serial module doesn't work in the version of lirc that comes with mythbuntu
[20:07] <wweasel> i changed all the IPs
[20:08] <wweasel> shall I reboot?
[20:08] <Aquahallic> on the backend and in the frontend?
[20:08] <Aquahallic> and that my.cnf file??
[20:08] <wweasel> oh, not my.cnf yet
[20:09] <wweasel> oh, never changed that back :P
[20:09] <wweasel> alright, yes, it's fixed on all of them
[20:09] <Aquahallic> that's what tells your mysql server to listen on the network
[20:09] <Aquahallic> ok.. reboot
[20:09] <wweasel> though it doesn't seem to have fixed automatically in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[20:09] <wweasel> should i change that one manually?
[20:10] <wweasel> (i'm surprised my laptop's battery has lasted this long :)
[20:11] <Aquahallic> on my masterbackend mine's still a loopback... but on my slave it's the ip of the backend
[20:11] <wweasel> ok
[20:11] <Aquahallic> so on this machine being your master backend it shouldn't matter
[20:11] <wweasel> i'll leave it
[20:12] <Aquahallic> since the mysql db resides on that machine a loopback is fine
[20:14] <wweasel> ok, it's still working after changing the IPs
[20:14] <Aquahallic> should be able to now connect a remote frontend
[20:14] <wweasel> yay
[20:15] <Aquahallic> now you get to go through all your frontend and backend logs and correct any errors or warnings you might find
[20:15] <wweasel> my MCEremote doesn't seem to be working great
[20:15] <Aquahallic> there's a setup in the mythbuntu control center for the remotes
[20:16] <wweasel> what does "Generate dynamic button  mappings" mean?
[20:16] <wweasel> (in the MCC)
[20:16] <Aquahallic> and there's a checkbox that generates a file to tell mythtv what buttons do what
[20:16] <Aquahallic> ^^^^
[20:16] <Aquahallic> that's what that does
[20:16] <wweasel> ok
[20:16] <Aquahallic> everything is controlled by a letter on the keyboard with mythtv
[20:17] <wweasel> i just set apt-get upgrade, so I'll wait a bit :)
[20:17] <Aquahallic> that maps the buttons on your remote to a specific letter/key on the keyboard
[20:18] <Aquahallic> oh boy.. .if you haven't upgraded all your packages... you'll have to rerun the backend setup again
[20:18] <Aquahallic> so... I hope you took notes....LOL
[20:18] <wweasel> aaah!
[20:18] <wweasel> haha :)
[20:18] <Aquahallic> :P
[20:18] <Aquahallic> fun stuff
[20:18] <Aquahallic> LOL
[20:20] <wweasel> meh, it's taking too long to download anyways, i'm impatient
[20:20] <Aquahallic> I'd let it go
[20:20] <Aquahallic> lol
[20:20] <Aquahallic> go eat lunch  or something....LOL
[20:21] <wweasel> damn do i need some lunch
[20:21] <Aquahallic> there ya go.. perfect opportunity
[20:21] <Aquahallic> :)
[20:21] <wweasel> but first i'm going to play with NVIDIA drivers and remote control :P
[20:21] <Aquahallic> what nvidia card you have?
[20:22] <wweasel> GeForce 6250 I believe
[20:22] <Aquahallic> k
[20:22] <Dr_willis> I am having sole odd issues with nvidia and video playback.. it will work for a long time.. then a day or so later.  i try to play a video and its all garbled.. if i restart the pc.. its back to working.
[20:22] <Dr_willis> Once i just restarted the mythtv front end and it started working.
[20:23] <wweasel> what the hell slow dl speeds
[20:23] <wweasel> 7000 B/s ?!
[20:23] <Dr_willis> its doing it in all the video players also. Not just mythtv's player. vlc, xine, totem, ect.. all have the garbled video.  Im betting its some nvidia bugglet. :(
[20:23] <wweasel> can't really trust restricted drivers *rolls eyes*
[20:24] <Aquahallic> here's a REALL GOOD readme that I found helped me out HUGE for my prebuffer pauses and my audio missing errors in the frontend logs.... http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-hw2.html
[20:24] <Aquahallic> what video card you using Dr_willis?
[20:24] <Dr_willis> 6800 on that machine.
[20:25] <Dr_willis> ive not noticed the issue on my 5500 or 8800 nvidia based machines
[20:25] <Aquahallic> check that you're using the right drivers recommended for that card
[20:26] <Aquahallic> mines a legacy card... and it did work with the newer drivers... but.. my fonts were funky... so I removed them and installed the legacy and it works fine...
[20:27] <Dr_willis> nvidia-glx , not the legacy for that one.
[20:27] <Aquahallic> there's also some stuff out there about nvidia "flavored" kernels... I think there's some settings in the kernel that should or shouldn't be there if you're using the restricted drivers
[20:28] <Dr_willis> actually - it is using the nvidia-glx-new i notice..
[20:28] <Aquahallic> I used to use knoppmyth... and I woundup recompiling my kernel to get my nvidia to work properly...
[20:28] <Dr_willis> It may be i need the normal.
[20:28] <Aquahallic> possibly
[20:28] <Dr_willis> but its not a big issue :) just seems to happen once a week.
[20:29] <Aquahallic> another thing that freaked my nvidia out was it was sharing an IRQ with my usb
[20:29] <Aquahallic> I found that by doing cat /proc/interrupts
[20:30] <Aquahallic> I tried to get my video capture sound and network cards all using thier own irqs and not sharing with anything
[20:31] <wweasel> Aquahallic: I don't believe it matters except for ISA cards, and apparently NVIDIA too :P
[20:31] <Aquahallic> then I used setpci and set the latency of everything on the bus to b0 then set my video, sound, network, capture cards to ff so they had priority on the bus and could send large bursts...:)
[20:32] <Aquahallic> yeah... nvidia makes nice cards... they just never play nice with linux....
[20:32] <Aquahallic> I found the latency thing cured all my video and sound buffer issues...:)
[20:32] <Aquahallic> just food for thought
[20:34] <wweasel> wow
[20:35] <wweasel> that's quite a lot of work!
[20:35] <Aquahallic> it takes some tweaking for sure
[20:35] <directhex> seems pretty extreme
[20:36] <Aquahallic> I think ALOT of it had to do with this #$%^& IBM Thinkcenter I'm using as my slave backend
[20:36] <wweasel> ah, possibly
[20:36] <Aquahallic> NOTHING is configurable in the bios
[20:36] <wweasel> I hope my custom built backend won't cause me so many problems
[20:36] <wweasel> then again, i hate my POS backend.
[20:36] <Aquahallic> my backend I can set all that stuff in the bios... so it was CAKE
[20:37] <wweasel> i cheaped out on the motherboard...and it %(*&# sucks.
[20:37] <wweasel> I'll never buy another Gigabyte board.
[20:37] <Aquahallic> my backend is an older Asus board.. but it still rocks
[20:38] <Aquahallic> now on when I buy a motherboard I'll make SURE all the irqs and latencys are all configureable by bios
[20:38] <wweasel> Asus always rocks.
[20:39] <Aquahallic> it's been good to me... only thing I've had to do is go through and replace the heatsink compound on the processor after about 4 yrs....LOL
[20:41] <wweasel> haha!
[20:43] <directhex> asus couldn't find their arse with an atlas
[20:43] <Aquahallic> what mobo  you use directhex?
[20:44] <directhex> Aquahallic, on my desktop? some abit thing
[20:44] <Aquahallic> ahhh
[20:44] <wweasel> directhex: I've never had a problem with asus
[20:45] <directhex> wweasel, google for sky2 asus error
[20:47] <wweasel> ah
[20:47] <wweasel> well, in general i've found their hardware solid
[20:47] <Aquahallic> well... g'friend has a grocery list prepared with my name pasted all over it
[20:47] <wweasel> this gigabyte board is a POS
[20:48] <Aquahallic> so I better go hop in the shower
[20:48] <wweasel> Aquahallic: thank you so much for your help
[20:48] <Aquahallic> gl wweasel
[20:48] <Aquahallic> np
[20:48] <Aquahallic> :)
[20:48] <Aquahallic> I'm just glad to see I'm not the only one that beat my head against a wall with mythtv
[20:48] <Aquahallic> :)
[20:48] <Aquahallic> and I could help someone else avoid it
[20:48] <Aquahallic> LOL
[20:49] <Aquahallic> have a good one everyone
[20:49] <wweasel> haha, couldn't have done it without your experience
[20:50] <Aqua_awy> sure ya could have.. would have just taken you a hell of alot longer
[20:50] <Aqua_awy> :P
[20:51] <wweasel> :D
[21:32] <soon> Hi folks - this is probably a little of topic, but where else? I need to connect a TV, a satelite reciever, a terrestial digital topbox and a dvd-recorder  ... big trouble
[21:33] <soon> anyone care to loosen the cables for me ... its getting hard to breathe
[21:37] <Dr_willis> get one of those big switch box's :)
[21:41] <directhex> bin the dvb-t box, and get an idtv!
[21:45] <rhpot1991> throw it all away and go get some books
[21:45]  * rhpot1991 is bitter today
[21:49] <soon> well youre all very helpful :-)
[21:50] <rhpot1991> I have an auto component switch box that works well
[21:51] <soon> the terrestial digital box takes a normal aerial in ... is it okay to use the aerial out? (someone mentioned something about 'looping'  it)
[21:51] <soon> a switch box ?! Hmm
[21:51] <soon> expensive?
[21:52] <rhpot1991> http://www.mcminone.com/product.asp?catalog_name=MCMProducts&product_id=PH61150
[21:54] <soon> thx
[22:53] <blkorpheus> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+bug/118538
[22:53] <blkorpheus> bug 118538
[22:54] <blkorpheus> ubotu?
[22:54] <blkorpheus> anyone notice this?
[23:30] <wweasel> For some reason, when I just changed theme MythTV became windowed. I'd like it back to fullscreen :P any ideas?
[23:32] <Tari> there's something in settings to toggle windowed/fullscreen
[23:33] <wweasel> found it
[23:33] <wweasel> must have selected it by accident
[23:43] <Aqua_awy> wweasel... who's winnin'....:P
[23:46] <wweasel> haha, I think the score is like MythTV 20 - 3 wweasel.
[23:47] <Tari> MythTV .20!
[23:47] <Aquahallic> lol
[23:47] <wweasel> brb
[23:47] <Tari> meh, I didn't find it that funny
[23:47] <Tari> and yet.. maybe I did
[23:48] <wweasel> back
[23:49] <wweasel> now i need to find a nice OSD theme.
[23:49] <wweasel> the default one is *very* clunky
[23:50] <morphios2> i just bought a twinhan DVB-S PCI AD-SP200 (1027) does it work with mythtv
[23:50]  * Aquahallic likes Blue... kinda has that cartoony look
[23:50] <Aquahallic> :P
[23:50] <wweasel> I like Blue too! Are you talking about main themes? I'm talking about the little overlays
[23:51] <Aquahallic> ahh
[23:51] <Aquahallic> heh.. missed OSD
[23:51] <wweasel> what do you use?
[23:51] <directhex> morphios2, is it on the linuxtv dvb wiki supported list?
[23:52] <Aquahallic> I'm just using the default for the moment.... I just set my box up last weekend and been dinkin' around with it
[23:52] <morphios2> i think so
[23:52] <morphios2> was just asking if anyone already had one working
[23:57] <wweasel> probably: he's just not here :)
[23:57] <directhex> the ad-sp200 is not listed on the wiki
[23:57] <directhex> the ad-sp300 is unsupported
[23:58] <directhex> the ad-sp400 has experimental support