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ubotuVorian called the ops in #ubuntu-devel (Romney08)01:58
ardchoilleThat spammer sure is persistent01:58
Vorianlol01:59
ubotuslangasek called the ops in #ubuntu-motu (Romney08)02:13
zulhey can someone do something about Romnet08 on #-motu02:13
ScottKHe hit #ubuntu-devel earlier02:14
PiciLjL: ^02:14
LjLPici: no access in -motu02:14
ScottKRomney08 though (no t)02:14
Pici!staff02:14
ubotuHey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2 or Christel,  I could use a bit of your time :)02:15
Picisee above regarding romney0802:15
elkbuntuHobbsee, remove the romney08 spambot from -motu02:19
LjLelkbuntu, psst, you have access02:20
elkbuntui do?02:20
LjLunless /cs access list lies to me02:20
tonyyarussoindeed you do02:20
no0ticlol :)02:20
Hobbseeyes, all council people should02:21
* LjL feels left out :P02:21
elkbuntuwould it be safe to exclude *romney*!*@* *mitt*!*@* and *prez*!*@* from channels? :)02:23
Hobbseehehe02:23
* LjL now doesn't feel left out02:25
ardchoilleAny thoughts on the nick "zippercock" being used in #kubuntu ?02:25
LjLelkbuntu: for romney and prez, i think just *e*!*@* should do02:25
elkbuntuLjL, :(02:26
LjLardchoille, unless someone complains, i usually pretend i didn't see nicknames that are dubious but not just blatantly bad02:27
ardchoilleOk, works for me :)02:27
elkbuntuzippercock is conceivably a RL surname too02:28
tonyyarussoelkbuntu: I think we already did.02:28
tonyyarussoat least had temporarily - not sure if still applied02:28
LjLindeed... or well, at least, it might be as far as i know. which is not much concerning english surnames. but the point is, care before classing a nick as bad is due02:28
* tonyyarusso already put a forward in #ubuntu to here for today's hostmask02:28
elkbuntutonyyarusso, i think it's time to do it again, since they've widened their join lists02:28
tonyyarussoelkbuntu: Fine by me.  I don't see a need for any legitimate user to have those strings anyway.02:29
LjLoverly wide bans always worry me...02:29
LjLbanforward to here02:29
LjLor find a portion of hostname that doesn't change, if there is one02:29
elkbuntuLjL, was just about to suggest that02:29
tonyyarussoYes, forwards would be preferred.02:29
elkbuntuLjL, they have way too many hostmasks judging from last time02:30
tonyyarussoLjL: There isn't a static portion, apparently.02:30
LjLthen banforward, but be prepared to have ops complaining about it here :)02:30
LjL*romney* might possibly be a relatively safe ban02:31
LjLbut *prez* and especially *mitt*, no02:31
elkbuntui dont have ops in -devel02:31
elkbuntuLjL, it'll give us more stats to play with02:31
elkbuntuHobbsee, op me up in -devel please?02:31
ubotuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)02:32
Hobbseeelkbuntu: done02:32
* LjL <3 /me's load balanced bots02:32
* Pici loves LjL's bots02:33
elkbuntuha, you cant even deop through chanserv without access02:34
elkbuntutoo funny02:34
LjLof course02:34
LjLdeopping via chanserv is something i always found kinda stupid anyway :P02:34
* tonyyarusso does it, isn't sure why02:34
LjLtonyyarusso: the only conceivable reason is that, sometimes, you get the odd smarthead saying "woo, look, ljl deopped ljl!"02:35
elkbuntuas compared to 'haha, chanserve hates ljl'02:35
tonyyarussohehe02:35
LjLthere's that.02:36
LjL /cs bed ljl02:36
Picilater LjL02:36
elkbuntugnite LjL02:36
* Pici swats his crappy isp02:36
jdongwhat's mexicant's story?02:47
jdong21:32 < Mexicant> Anybody else here after getting banned from #ubuntu?02:47
Piciugh02:48
PiciThats chuy02:48
jdongis he vagina boy?02:49
Piciyes.02:49
jdongwhee02:50
jdongok, I'll keep an eye on the guy02:50
andruki get the DCCExploit error, and the ubuntu wiki tells me to beg for help reconnecting to #ubuntu in here...  help, please03:21
no0ticandruk, did you connect to port 8001?03:22
andrukyeep03:22
no0ticandruk, ok, let's wait for an op to test you03:23
Hobbseeheh03:23
Hobbseesomeone else got him03:23
no0ticHobbsee, all yours03:24
andrukack, sorry, xchat crashed on me.  yep, i have connected to port 800103:24
Hobbseeright03:28
Hobbseeandruk: ban removed, please keep connecting to that port03:29
andrukHobbsee: will do, thanks!03:29
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CC_Nganjukaf/ljgucxg hucghdhf uuie8p3urrf7g2o16tr330t75410]t8\-\=--+%8riadhcxv yuopdl05:10
elkbuntuinteresting05:16
ardchoilleelkbuntu: Is that the new freenode-speak?05:18
ardchoille:)05:18
elkbuntui've got no clue what it was, or why it hit here rather than a populated channel05:31
elkbuntuactually i see now that i check BT05:31
jussi01Who is kloeri?06:54
naliotha staffer06:54
jussi01nalioth: ahhh...06:54
naliothperhaps the cloak isn't suggestive enough. . .06:54
* jussi01 cries... its 8.55 am, be easy on me...06:55
Amaranthalright, back in action07:21
hobojohn3hi i use chatzilla the firefox plugin and i was told i have to change ports to rejoin ubuntu how do i do that?07:29
naliothhobojohn3: try using a real irc client.  chatzilla isn't.  it is a 'proof of concept' to show off the gecko engine, and not very irc rfc compliant07:30
hobojohn3i dont really use irc except for getting help with ubuntu so i didnt want to download anything big07:34
naliothnone of the irc clients are "big"07:34
naliotha few hundred Kb at most07:34
tonyyarussoOne is even installed by default (although it's not what I would recommend)07:35
hobojohn3which would you recommend to someone who is not very technical yet?07:36
tonyyarussoXChat (package name 'xchat')07:36
naliothregular old xchat ( NOT xchat-gnome, which is installed by default )07:36
tonyyarussonalioth: Err, the default client is pidgin, not xc-gnome, unless I'm sorely mistaken.07:37
tonyyarussoRegardless, he's right in that xchat-gnome is to be avoided.07:37
naliothtonyyarusso: i can't keep up with the continuous downward spiral into the toilet of the default irc client   ;(07:37
tonyyarussohehe07:37
hobojohn3just sudo apt-get xchat?07:38
naliothhobojohn3: yep07:38
jussi01hobojohn3: correct :)07:38
jussi01nop07:38
jussi01sudo apt-get install xchat07:38
jussi01;)07:38
naliothtonyyarusso: irssi was in the first ubuntus, then it was ditched for xchat, then for xchat-gnome and now it's just pidgin07:38
hobojohn3thnx jussi0107:39
tonyyarussonalioth: right - still lamenting dropping irssi07:39
Hobbseekubuntu still has irssi07:39
naliothHobbsee: kubuntu has iso images?07:39
Hobbsee...yes07:40
jussi01hehe07:40
tonyyarussorofl07:40
jussi01is it me this morning or why isn the bot accepting my factoid suggestiones...07:40
Hobbseeit hates you07:42
hobojohn3im in thank you i will now remove chatzilla07:42
jussi01nickspam is <reply> You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like $chan - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. (Please set your preferred nick in your client.) The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines07:44
tonyyarussojussi01: because you aren't invoking the bot?07:45
jussi01tonyyarusso: you mean i need the ! (tried that07:46
tonyyarussojussi01: yeah, you also need a "no, " to override existing ones.07:46
jussi01and besides, you shouldnt need that when in pm with the bot...07:46
jussi01tonyyarusso: I dont have bot access... it was supposed to come here.07:47
tonyyarussooh07:47
tonyyarusso!nickspam07:47
ubotuYou should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines07:47
tonyyarussomakes sense.07:48
jussi01tonyyarusso: I added that part cause we get soooo many people coming in then straight away a  nick change...07:48
tonyyarusso!no, nickspam is <reply> You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like $channel - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also !Guidelines07:49
ubotuI'll remember that tonyyarusso07:49
tonyyarussoshut up Ubotwo :P07:50
jussi01tonyyarusso: thanks :)07:50
ardchoilleI've lost a karma point on LP. I wonder what could make it go down07:51
jussi01ardchoille: time07:51
ardchoilleSeriously?07:52
jussi01yeah07:52
ardchoilleAh, Ilearned something new :)07:52
jussi01https://help.launchpad.net/KarmaReductionJan0707:52
tonyyarussoardchoille: Nobody understands the algorithm, but that's what it does, yes.07:52
crdlbmeh07:53
jussi01or even better: https://help.launchpad.net/KarmaCalculation07:53
ardchoilleYeah, just found that one07:54
jussi01:D07:54
crdlbit would be really nice if LjL added floodkicking to the floodbots ;)07:54
ardchoilleInteresting.07:56
ardchoilleI saw someone with ove 6000 karma the other day. I think it was Hobbsee07:56
tonyyarussoprobably07:56
ardchoilleMy eyes bugged out :)07:56
* jussi01 runs off to go see riddells karma07:57
ardchoillehehe07:57
Hobbseeit probably was07:57
Hobbseealthough i haven't done much in a while07:57
jussi01meh, riddell only has a measly 3409 :P07:58
* tonyyarusso checks his07:59
jussi01Hobbsee: has 6525... wow07:59
Hobbseeheh07:59
* Hobbsee probably does more bug stuff07:59
tonyyarusso29207:59
ardchoilleThere's one with 7935807:59
jussi01the sabdfl?07:59
ardchoilleNo, not Mark08:00
ardchoillehttps://launchpad.net/~caizhonghan08:00
ardchoilleI just added a new machine to my network, plan to use it soley fornew release testing and bug hunting08:00
* jussi01 is sad, as he may lose his server access for irc soon... :( got to get another server!!!08:12
dholbachheya - astharot just told me that there are problems that prevent him from getting a cloak? (https://launchpad.net/~gerardo)10:05
dholbachaccording to https://launchpad.net/~gerardo/+participation he's part of ubuntumembers10:06
dholbachSeveas: do you know who can help with that ^?10:13
stdinsomeone on the council needs to add them to the ubuntu-irc-cloaks team and get a staffer to enable the cloak10:15
stdinspeak of the devil10:16
dholbachahhh thanks, stdin10:16
dholbachPriceChild: do you think you can take a look at astharot's cloak? (https://launchpad.net/~gerardo)10:17
PriceChildastharot, just checking you want this ubuntu/member cloak?10:18
PriceChildastharot, could you also ensure you have a secondary nick linked to your first, and an email set on the nick10:18
PriceChild/msg ubotu register, for help10:18
dholbachPriceChild: thanks a lot - you ROCK10:18
Dave2.allserv back10:19
Dave2bah10:19
* Dave2 needs to stop doing that.10:19
Garyyeah, Dave2 :p10:19
PriceChilddholbach, nalioth​ /away right now. Freenode haven't updated their gcf so I can't ask say Dave2 or Gary ​​here to apply a cloak for me yet. We're just going to have to wait for nalioth to return :)10:20
PriceChildplus astharot seems afk also 8-)10:20
dholbachI'll leave it in your hands then. Thanks for looking into this10:21
* dholbach waves10:21
astharothere now10:27
astharotI've no other nicks and I've a linked email10:28
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PriceChildastharot, please register a second nick and link it to the first10:29
PriceChildastharot, astharot_ for example10:30
astharotok10:30
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astharotdone!10:31
PriceChildcool. and just to check you want this cloak?10:31
astharotmmh yes :)10:32
PriceChildnalioth, *ping* cloak for astharot please. https://launchpad.net/~gerardo10:32
astharotwow nice syntax :D10:33
PriceChildastharot, any reason for keeping your nick private?10:52
PriceChildjdong, j-dawg is in #ubuntu right now :O10:55
astharotnah not at all10:55
astharotshould I turn private to off?10:56
PriceChild"should you have turned it on"11:21
PriceChildto me its one of those features that people see and think "uuu that looks cool, why not" and turn it on without reason, just because it is there.11:21
PriceChildsomething cool i just found out.... holding shift in xchat allows you to hilight timestamps with the text11:28
ikoniabonus11:30
Tm_T:(11:35
Tm_Tirssi <311:35
PriceChildhey smarter, how can i help?11:36
smarterhello11:37
smarterI'd like an ubuntu cloak11:37
smarterhttps://launchpad.net/~smarter11:37
PriceChildsmarter, are you an ubuntu member?11:37
smarterPriceChild: Yes11:37
PriceChildgood good11:37
PriceChildsmarter, could you please ensure you have a secondary nick linked to this one, and an email set via nickserv11:37
PriceChild!register11:37
ubotuBy default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration11:37
smarterI think I've one11:38
PriceChildnalioth, *ping* cloak for smarter please, https://launchpad.net/~smarter11:38
smarterI check...11:38
PriceChildsmarter, type "/msg nickserv info" to check11:38
smarterI've also registred smarter_11:39
smarterAnd my email is correctly set11:39
PriceChildsmarter, is smarter_ listed on /msg nickserv info, under "Linked Nicks:" ??11:40
smarterPriceChild: yes11:40
PriceChildgood good11:40
PriceChildsmarter, you'll have to be patient now, the cloak should arrive shortly :)11:41
smarterPriceChild: thanks ;)11:41
smartershould I /quit this chan?11:41
PriceChildprobs best you stick around until it is sorted11:42
smarterokay11:42
ikoniaquery is "moleprince" "dmole" from lasst night12:19
PiciPriceChild: ping, question about cloaks.12:33
PriceChildHey?12:33
PiciSomeone came in here yesterday requesting an Ubuntu cloak, but it turned out that they were only indirectly members of 'ubuntumembers', have we taken this into account for all cloaks given out?12:35
PiciI didnt even realize until yesterday that indirect memberships even existed.12:35
astharotit was me12:35
astharot:)12:35
PiciOh, hay :)12:36
Hobbseewhat's the problem about indirect memberships?12:36
PiciNot a problem, just a question.12:37
Hobbseewell, wha'ts the question then?12:37
Hobbseeas in, why does it matter?12:37
PiciDo indirect memberships to ubuntumembers qualify those people for ubuntu cloaks?12:37
Hobbseeyes.12:38
Hobbseekubuntu membership == ubuntu membership == edubuntu memberhsip, etc12:38
Hobbseeseeing as we don't give out separate kubuntu cloaks12:38
DavieyUbuntu membership should be harder than Kubuntu, to show that Ubuntu is better :D12:39
PiciHobbsee: What about motus?12:40
Hobbseethey're members too12:40
HobbseePici: they can get membership thru motu now12:41
PiciWell, then, I think that the irc-council should make sure that all their members know this.12:41
Hobbseeif they've made motu, they've definetly done the contribution side.12:41
PriceChildPici, the motu team on launchpad is inside the ~ubuntumembers group on launchpad12:41
Hobbseeirc-council:  fix it, kthxbye.12:41
PriceChildas is kubuntumembets12:41
PriceChild*kubuntumembers12:41
PriceChildPici, I'm not sure what you mean? whose members know what?12:41
PriceChild(going to exam in 10 mins so please be quick)12:42
PiciPriceChild: It could just have been a misunderstanding, but it my my impression that nal denied astharot a cloak yesterday because he was an indirect member of ubuntumembers12:43
PiciMy connection was being a bit unstable, so it could just have been that I missed something though.12:44
ubotuatoponce called the ops in #ubuntu ()12:44
* Pici opens a can of worms12:45
PriceChildPici, ok well indirect membership *is* membership so will talk to nalioth about it when I get back :)12:46
PriceChildPici, i know he's cloaked people with indirect membership before and we've talked about it12:46
ikoniawhat are the requirments for membership, they seem a little grey12:48
Tm_TPriceChild: Pici: like me for example12:48
ikoniafrom time to time they do I should say12:48
PriceChildikonia, sustained contribution to ubuntu of around 3 months, can currently be applied for through the CC, KC or MC. You must also sign the CoC to agree to follow it.12:49
ikoniathat seems basic enough12:49
ikoniadefine contribution though12:49
Pici'seems'12:49
PriceChildikonia, the idea is that soon other councils like forums and irc will be able to approve too12:49
PriceChildikonia, *anything*12:49
PriceChildikonia, loco's, code, artwork, support, etc. etc.12:49
ikoniaPriceChild: ahh ok, so say a forum contributer would be potentially "ok"12:50
ikoniathats a wider net than I thought12:50
Tm_Tikonia: or just irc lurking12:50
PriceChildikonia, forums council are about to go through the process to start being ok to approve12:50
ikoniavery interesting12:50
PriceChildikonia, yeah and i'm pretty sure its going to be a *lot* harder to be approved by them12:50
PriceChildit'll be mostly forum staff, team leaders etc. that go through that route12:50
PiciDoes sabdfl sit on the other boards other than the CC? in terms of aproving members?12:51
PriceChildPici, nope12:51
PriceChildand i think the CC are tired of approving members at meetings12:51
PriceChildso i doubt he'd wanna be ;)12:51
PiciInteresting.12:51
Hobbseeno12:51
HobbseePici:12:51
PriceChildwell not tired then, but want to spend time on more important matters12:51
PiciHobbsee:12:51
HobbseePici: he's on the tech board12:51
PiciHobbsee: Do those approve members?12:51
PriceChildHobbsee, they don't approve members do they?12:51
Hobbseespeaking of which, it would be nice if one of them actually looked at irc12:51
Hobbseeno, they don't.12:51
jussi01Tm_T: whoops, wasnt thinking there.12:52
PiciWell, my question was only regarding memberships.  ;)12:52
Tm_Tjussi01: :-P12:52
* Hobbsee attempts to poke12:52
PriceChildfail12:52
Hobbseeno, it appears i've passed12:53
Hobbseewhether he'll do it or not...i've no idea12:53
Pici!test | Hobbsee12:53
ubotuHobbsee: Failed.12:53
Piciubotu has spoken.12:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about has spoken. - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:54
* PriceChild resists12:54
Hobbseeyay, success!12:54
PriceChildI'm off, back in a couple of hours12:55
PriceChildhopefully nal will be back around that time too12:56
jussi01have a good exam PriceChild12:56
PiciGood luck12:56
Daviey:`( @ Hobbsee13:05
Tm_TDaviey: yes?13:07
DavieyTm_T: yep13:07
ubotuIn #ubuntu, erawfish said: !Ops Poobleo is a spammer13:40
dgjonescan somebody have a look at <Poobleo> Finnaly finished my project -> http://tinyurl.com/34vk45 in #ubuntu, 2nd time posted in the channel13:40
ikoniais this just spam ?13:41
ikoniacoooh never mind, just re-read13:41
dgjonesthanks elkbuntu13:42
elkbuntuyes, it's some 'get people to click here to advance' kinda game thing. i had to check it wasnt just some clueless idiot13:42
Hobbseeas long as it wasn't on nimp.13:42
Dave2he's gone, anyway.13:43
Dave2(from the network, that is)13:43
* Tm_T hugs elkbuntu 13:43
elkbuntuDave2, courtesy a free k-ticket?13:44
Dave2indeed13:44
* elkbuntu wishes there was a way to preemptively k-ticket the romneybots :)13:46
ikoniaI like the phrase k-ticket13:46
elkbuntuikonia, yep. it goes non-stop to hell13:46
Hobbseechuga chuga chuga chuga chuga chuga choo choo!!!13:46
Pici!train13:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about train - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi13:47
ikoniafed up of people in ubuntu "the windblows attitude of needing to reboot"13:47
ikoniathere is nothing wrong with requiring a reboot, kernel updates require reboots13:47
elkbuntuikonia, i'm fed up with any idiotic mash of windows or microsoft to be honest13:47
* jussi01 seconds that13:48
ikoniajust people trying to sound anti-microsoft for no reason13:48
ikonia"wow the MS solution of rebooting"13:48
elkbuntui can tolerate MS, since it's an abbreviation, but the rest i hate13:48
ikoniahe had to reboot - he did a kernel update13:48
Dave2elkbuntu, if you really want to make people fear it, you tell 'em it's going... to Hull :O13:48
* Hobbsee just calls it 'doze.13:48
ikoniawinblows M$ etc etc etc13:48
* Dave2 hides from any Hull residents.13:48
ikoniaDave2: onl a uk guy would get that13:48
elkbuntuDave2, i was thinking /dev/null personally13:48
ikoniaonly13:48
ikoniahull is worse !13:48
elkbuntuyes, but people will at least *get* it13:49
elkbuntualthough, you brits could do /dev/hull and it'd probably be got13:49
elkbuntuanyway, the reason i hate the anti-MS stuff is because it makes our people seem as bad as their people13:50
ikoniaexactly13:52
PiciThere was a good post on planet-u a while back from someone basically telling everyone to cut it out.13:52
ikoniaand rightly so13:53
elkbuntuwhilever we have people in certain FOSS projects bagging the heck out of other FOSS projects, we'll never stop the bagging of Microsoft13:55
ikoniajust tired of it, especially when the people saying it don't actually know why they are saying it, just because they think it's cool13:56
elkbuntuyep, like 'micro$haft will die and we will rule teh world!' kinda crap13:57
ikoniaso tired of it13:57
elkbuntulike hello, replacing one homogenous global network with another is just stupid13:57
jussi01I can ha cheeseburger az well?13:58
elkbuntuso effing stupid it'd be laughable if it weren't such a dangerous notion13:58
ikoniaPici: thank you, that was me being stupid13:58
ikoniaPici: I was actually going for "flashissues" but was just scrappy13:59
mneptoki love those generous homos.14:05
mneptokalways skipping up and throwing decent taste and assorted fabulousness.14:06
jugheadhey can I get a check please?14:24
Mezjughead, one sec14:26
Mezwhere are you banned form jughead?14:29
jughead#ubuntu14:29
Mezunbanned.... thanks LjL14:30
MezI guess my script isn't working14:30
jugheadthanks Mez14:30
elkbuntuLjL, you ought to put that 'if you really want to try un-b0rk your automatix-violated machine' stuff into a factoid if it's not already14:39
ikoniadespite how good LjL suggestion is, a clean install is the best way to be certain they are on a standard platform14:40
ikoniathey can mess up peoples advice14:40
ikoniaand waste others time trying to help them a.) fix it b.) get support on a borked platform14:40
LjLelkbuntu, not really because on one hand, i'm really unsure it's enough, and on the other, debsums *always* gives a lot of errors about legitimate packages, so it really involves a lot of manual trickery to do it correctly14:40
LjLif we had better tools, it would be more feasible, and months ago we were actually thinking of an automated procedure to get rid of third party stuff14:41
LjLbut the tools are just missing, the integrity-check blueprint is not in place yet14:41
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ubotuJack_Sparrow called the ops in #ubuntu (Phap)15:24
astharotuhm my cloak needs an update :P15:59
PriceChildastharot, hmm?16:00
astharotsee my cloak16:02
PriceChildastharot, what's wrong with it?16:02
astharoti'm here to get a ubuntu/member one16:03
LjLerr... you *have* one.16:03
astharotah sorry16:03
PriceChildastharot, do you not want the pdpc bit?16:03
astharotuhm16:03
astharotit's not that I don't want it's that I'm not a supporter anymore :)16:03
PriceChildpdpc and freenode cloaks stack16:03
astharotit's not... "fair" ?16:03
LjLPriceChild: don't show off your cloak... it's ridiculous enough :P16:03
PriceChildLjL, was just giving an example16:04
PriceChildthat he's not hte only one16:04
PriceChildastharot, ah right, if you're no longer donating then might be polite to inform a staffer :)16:04
LjLPriceChild: yeah but your cloak is hilarious still16:04
PriceChildLjL, how's it hilarious?16:04
no0ticLjL, why?16:04
astharotPriceChild: where to ask?16:05
LjLastharot: indeed, we don't have much to do with pdpc cloaks. you have an ubuntu member cloak, that's what competes to us... for pdpc, inform staff16:05
LjLPriceChild: in #freenode, or to /stats p16:05
PriceChildastharot, see above16:05
astharotok16:05
LjLno0tic, PriceChild: ljl!n=ljl@continued/sustainer/of.the.fact.that/pricechilds/x-39483/cloak.is.hilarious16:06
astharot[17:08] * p :0 staff members16:08
astharot[17:08] * p :End of /STATS report :\16:08
PriceChildastharot, patience then :)16:08
PriceChildirc may be real-time, but people aren't always availiable16:08
astharotyep i know16:09
astharotI'm waiting on freenode :)16:09
* Dave2 finds himself highlighted16:09
PriceChildastharot, ask this guy ^ 8-)16:09
astharothello Dave2, can you please remove pdpc supporter status on my cloak?16:10
Dave2sure16:11
astharotthank you16:11
Dave2done16:11
astharotthank you again16:12
PriceChildAnything else we can help with astharot?16:12
astharotnah dun think so :D16:12
PriceChildAriel_Eran, PreZ, how can I help?16:12
LjLPriceChild: prez is redirected here from other channels16:13
PiciHrm?16:13
PriceChildwraund, Can I help? Last time I saw you spoke on irc was when you wanted a cloak months and months ago and I'm not sure what you're up to :)16:13
wraundPriceChild: i had a freenode staffer i know amend my cloak :)16:21
PriceChildwraund, pardon?16:21
wraundPriceChild: freenode staffer..16:21
wraundchanged my cloak16:22
PriceChildwraund, after an "ok" by one of the ubuntu irc council in here.16:23
PriceChildNot sure what relevance this has to anything?16:23
wraund16:13 +     PriceChild : wraund, Can I help? Last time I saw you spoke on irc was when you wanted a  cloak months and months ago and I'm not sure what you're up to :)16:23
ikoniacolchester lug, thats the same one Gary is part of16:23
wraundyeah16:23
Piciwraund: I think the question is: What are you still doing here then?16:23
wraundGary changed it for me16:23
wraundoh16:24
wraundits on my autojoin list i think16:24
wraund#ubuntu-ops16:24
Piciwraund: I dont mean to sound rude, but we like to keep this place as free of idlers as possible.  All the people here have a reason to be here.  That way we know who needs to be helped, and who doesnt.16:25
wraundah ok no problem16:26
PiciSee /topic regarding idlers etc.16:26
Piciastharot: see my above discussion with wraund as well :)16:27
astharotPici: just ask :) bye16:27
no0ticany freenode staffer around?17:00
jussi01no0tic: do /stats p17:03
no0ticjussi01, nobody :)17:04
jussi01no0tic: )17:04
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no0ticbut I _know_ they are :)17:05
LjLwhat's the matter no0tic17:09
no0ticthere's a channel named #ubuntu-it-unofficial and, as the name says, it's not official :) I pleased the owner to drop the channel and register ##ubuntu-it-unofficial if he'd like, they started offending me17:16
no0tics/pleased/requested gently/ :)17:17
PriceChildno0tic, stuff like that should be in -irc, and please get the #ubuntu-it (or ljl) to request it17:17
PriceChild*the #ubuntu-it contact17:17
jdongs/requested gently/threatened with a staffer/g? :)17:17
no0ticPriceChild, sorry :)17:18
PriceChildno0tic, no need to be :)17:18
no0ticPriceChild, anyway I'm not the #ubuntu-it contact only for bureaucratic reasons, I'll soon be, when our LoCoTeam Council will give it to me17:19
PriceChildfun fun fun17:20
LjLno0tic: ssssht.17:20
ikoniawhy is #ubuntu-it-unofficial a problem ?17:20
PriceChildno0tic, is there a loco council now?17:20
LjLPriceChild: course17:20
no0ticPriceChild, yes17:20
PriceChildWow didn't know it had finally been created.17:21
PriceChildWhen did that go infront of the CC?17:21
jussi01hmmm, anyone know of a factoid that explains why we dont have the latest version of everything? !worksforme is good, but is there something better?17:21
jdong!jdongisonvacation?17:21
jdong;-)17:21
ikoniathere is something like !bleedingedge17:21
LjL-> #ubuntu-irc17:21
ikonia!latest17:21
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.17:21
ikoniathere you go17:21
jussi01ikonia: thats just !worksforme aliased...17:22
ikoniaoh17:22
jdongbut the real explanation is something along the lines of me not having my backports ransom...17:22
ikoniait does explain why17:22
PriceChildno0tic, LjL, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams/LoCoCouncil says its not done yet?17:22
no0ticPriceChild, our LoCoTeam is already official, we have mdke in our loco council ;)17:22
LjLPriceChild, he meant the *italian* loco council17:22
PriceChildahhhhhhh :)17:22
LjLwhich is the equivalent of the community council for the italian team17:22
PriceChildThat makes more sense.17:22
kojiroHi, could someone please keep an eye on ra, I think he may be trolling17:26
kojirothanks :)17:26
PriceChildkojiro, we're there :)17:26
LjLPriceChild: well, i'm only there because he said "ops" to begin with ;)(17:27
kojirogood to know17:27
LjLkojiro, there's !ops for emergency (though in that case it probably wasn't entirely justified)17:27
kojirodanke schoen17:27
PriceChildLjL, i had just caps'd him17:27
jussi01Hmm, what do people think of yao_ziyuan in #k?17:27
LjLPriceChild: ah right, though he did17:27
LjLthought17:27
LjLjussi01, what about him? slightly offtopic?17:28
jussi01LjL: hes been slightly offtopic for days...17:28
jussi01several times, "suggestions"17:28
jussi01Ive refered him to !bug17:28
stdinjussi01: do what I do, remind them that it's a support channel not a "complain about every little thing" channel17:33
ikonialittle help guys17:35
ikoniachaps couple of trolls buildiong up17:36
ikoniastamp on it early pelase ?17:36
ikoniaplease ?17:36
ikoniacraytruckish is back in #ubuntu17:41
ubotuDaviey called the ops in #ubuntu ()17:41
ubotuikonia called the ops in #ubuntu (CrazyTurkish)17:41
naliothklined17:41
ikoniata17:41
Dave2stupid tab completion.17:42
stdin EvilToaster (i=eviltoas@c134-149-70-80.bjare.net) has joined #ubuntu < interesting nickname17:42
stdinwait, missread that with a dirty mind :p17:42
ikoniaas did I17:42
Dave2Somehow I didn't.17:43
stdinnow I just want toast17:43
ikoniaCrazymethjesus: crazyturkish again ?17:45
mneptoknot unless he's connecting through Finland17:45
ikoniajust checking17:46
ikoniaseemed a conincidence17:46
ikoniaI couldn't see turks ip so couldn't be certain17:46
ubotuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)18:37
ubotuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)18:37
stdinfloodbot2 is insisting on -Rrm18:38
LjLstdin: yes there is a bug there somewhere18:43
LjLstdin: it *is* supposed to enforce -rRmi whenever someone else does, to make server desync as unlikely as possible18:43
LjLbut it insisted a tad too much18:43
LjLalso it really shouldn't set -r when i only set -R18:44
LjLalthough it's intended to do that... but seeing it happening, i now realize it's not a good idea18:44
mneptokLjL: i just de-opped you, assuming you had forgotten you were +o. no offense.18:44
stdinIt started after your -R18:44
LjLmneptok: i hadn't, i usually stay opped for a while after an attack18:45
ubotuArelis called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic ()18:45
LjLstdin: yes, it's what they're supposed to do - "parrot" your -r or +R in order to make sure it propagates to all servers (since it did happen in the past that it wouldn't, and that's *not* nice)18:45
LjLthey've just been too insistful about it18:45
LjLerr, s/+R/-R/18:47
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Priceygah leave my laptop alone for an hour in the other room, go back and its frozen and its 'L' key is half broken20:14
Seeker`Pricey: what happened?20:15
Seeker`and is it now a _ key? or a |?20:15
Priceyno Idea, think its fixed now though20:15
Priceyhehe20:15
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Seeker`PriceChild: did you have a good chrsitmas / new year?20:16
PriceChildyeah was cool, had a BBQ at new years with some family20:19
PiciHow was the exam?20:19
PriceChildbetter than expected, 2 down, 3 to go20:20
* Seeker` has exams next week :(20:28
ompaulSeeker`, in two weeks you will have others in the future and those in the past20:38
Seeker`ompaul: but the ones in the future are far enough away not to worry about20:48
PriceChildIts not the exams you should worry about anyway20:49
PriceChildYou should prepare for exams20:49
ikoniathe results ?20:49
PriceChildits the results you worry about20:49
ikoniaworry about them20:49
ompaulikonia, worry about facts?20:49
ompaulna20:49
ompaulthere is no worry20:49
ikoniayou are not yoda20:49
ikoniado, or do not, there is no try20:50
ompaulikonia, have you been in -ot cos I did a serious brain melt on people in there20:50
ompaul:)20:50
mneptokhttps://launchpad.net/~mneptok20:50
ikoniaI was lurking in there for most of today, but I've had a reasonably busy day so not kept track20:50
ikoniaompaul: I'll last log it20:50
ikoniamneptok: well I never20:51
mneptokyes, padawan?20:51
mneptok;)20:51
ikoniaI've just shaved my obi-wan beard off20:52
ikoniawell, I did on sunday night20:52
mneptoki'd shave mine off, but the razor burn on my butt is annoying.20:52
ikoniaha ha ha ha20:52
mneptokk, shift's over. monkey go home.20:53
ompaulmneptok, enjoy20:54
ikoniabyeeee20:54
ompaulmneptok, or you could say ---- nuts20:54
ubotuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, RyanPrior said: !apple is <reply> the company who makes the !macbook and the !iPod, among other products. These are generally compatible with Ubuntu. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOnMac for more details.20:57
elektronik123witam21:37
PriceChildHi elektronik123, how can I help?21:38
elektronik123who is op on #ubuntu-pl ?21:38
Jack_SparrowHe was banned21:38
PriceChildelektronik123, did you see who banned/kicked you? You should pm them, or someone else listed on /msg chanserv access #ubuntu-pl list21:39
elektronik123ju-rek21:39
PriceChildelektronik123, well message him and try to come to an agreement with him :)21:40
elektronik123i don`t remember ?21:40
elektronik123ops21:41
elektronik123with out ?21:41
PriceChildpardon?21:41
Perdentewhat?21:41
elektronik123my english is not good21:41
PriceChildPerdente, hello?21:41
PriceChildelektronik123, if ju-rek banned you, then talk to him.21:41
Perdentehey, I think I might be in the right channel, I was looking for an ubuntu channel about helping create modules for ubuntu apps, or working on ubuntu, do you know what a good one would be?21:42
Perdenteerr, *wrong channel21:42
elektronik123can you read the access list on #ubuntu-pl ?21:42
jpatrickelektronik123: I can21:43
PriceChildelektronik123, yes. Who banned you? You said ju-rek?21:43
PriceChildPerdente, the /topic normally helps ;)21:43
PriceChild!participate | Perdente21:43
ubotuPerdente: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate21:43
elektronik123yes21:43
Perdentehaha.. thanks, sorry about that21:43
PriceChildPerdente, I would assume you want #ubuntu-motu if that link doesn't help :)21:43
PriceChildelektronik123, then talk to him.21:43
elektronik123but i don`t remember21:44
Perdentethanks guys will do, didn't mean to bother y'all21:44
PriceChildPerdente, good luck, looking forward to seeing your contributions :)21:44
elektronik123 ju-rek :No such nick/channel21:44
PriceChildelektronik123, give me a minute to find someone for you to talk to.21:44
elektronik123not good21:44
elektronik123ok21:45
jpatrickelektronik123: can you see the access list?21:45
elektronik123no21:45
jpatrickelektronik123: here you go http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3382/21:45
elektronik123i am normal user21:45
PriceChildjpatrick, he can see it perfectly fine.21:46
elektronik123i have block before Christmas21:47
PriceChildelektronik123, please be patient.21:47
elektronik123ok21:48
elektronik123i`m wait21:48
ompaulelektronik123, please talk with pressenter - as this is the person who banned you - #ubuntu-pl is not a ubuntu irc council controlled channel21:49
ompaulPriceChild, sorted21:49
ompaulthere ya go21:49
ompaulelektronik123, this is not the channel for resolving that - we have asked someone to inform you of what you must do, I think there is nothing else we can do for you21:55
ubotuFlare183 called the ops in #ubuntu (aladdinsane)22:27
pressenterPriceChild: Message recieved, but i will not take elektronik123 ban off.23:24
PriceChildpressenter, have you talked to him about it? Thanks very much for dealing with the issue.23:25
pressenterPriceChild: He's gone now, but i will talko with him if he comes up again.23:25
PriceChildpressenter, thanks, I think another op talked to him also.23:26
pressenterHe's very annoying, what he has proven today, that's why the ban stays.23:26
LjLhello FlintPearce23:26
FlintPearceHello all23:26
LjLpressenter, you're entirely entitled to decide which bans stay, no need to justify anything to us... it's just that the guy came to complain here23:27
FlintPearceI got told to join this room as my from my ISP there is a lot of spam. I was attempting to join #ubuntu as my friend has a problem with his LiveCD of 7.1023:27
LjLFlintPearce: i will let you join #ubuntu momentarily23:27
FlintPearceThanks you23:27
pressenterLjL: I know, it's just that i feel kind of stupid because of this whole situation. Never had such user before, he was writing to almost everyone he could.23:28
LjLsome people are like that *sigh*23:28
FlintPearceBtw, how could I join the Ubuntu room without having to come into this channel and ask someone to redirect?23:32
PriceChildFlintPearce, are you on a dynamic ip?23:33
FlintPearceYes  (ashamed)23:34
PriceChildashamed?23:34
PriceChildoh is that an isp?23:34
FlintPearceNo im just ashamed, I asked my mum to get Static. Pfft didn't listen23:35
FlintPearceMy ISP is Iberbanda23:35
PriceChildLjL, shall we maybe put an exempt on *!?=flint@83.230.* instead?23:35
naliothPriceChild: go for it23:35
FlintPearceIm no spammer rest assure :D23:35
FlintPearceThank you all.23:36
PriceChildFlintPearce, you shouldn't have any problem anymore, as long as your username remains "flint".23:36
FlintPearceOk. Thanks.23:36
LjLPriceChild: yes23:36
PriceChildExempts are really clever, I've never had to do one before.23:36
FlintPearceHave a good day :D23:36
LjLthey're not malicious most likely23:36
PriceChildYou too.23:37
LjLi mean the 83's23:37
LjLit's the first who's actually a legitimate user :)23:37
PriceChildand he read a topic!!!23:38
PriceChildHow unlikely is that23:38
PriceChildThis laptop has a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge shift key23:40
PriceChildits literally that long23:40
PriceChildand you know what they say about the size of your shift key!23:40
LjLPriceChild: unlikely enough that he deserves every exempt he asks for ;)23:42
PriceChild:)23:43
ardchoillePriceChild: hahahaha23:44
ardchoillePriceChild: Warn us before you say stuff like that.. I almost fell out of my chair.23:46
PriceChild"big shift key, smaller amount of other keys"23:47
LjLardchoille: ouch, we forgot "Fasten seat belt when entering this channel" from the topic23:48
PriceChildWARNING! The following topics are o4o (offtopic for ops).....23:48
ardchoilleLjL: Indeed :)23:50
PriceChildI think we should lift the prez ban.23:54
LjLPriceChild: reason=23:59
LjL?23:59
PriceChildand if not lift, then remove the forward...23:59
PriceChildPreZ, can i help you?23:59

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