=== Pici` is now known as Pici [01:58] Vorian called the ops in #ubuntu-devel (Romney08) [01:58] That spammer sure is persistent [01:59] lol [02:13] slangasek called the ops in #ubuntu-motu (Romney08) [02:13] hey can someone do something about Romnet08 on #-motu [02:14] He hit #ubuntu-devel earlier [02:14] LjL: ^ [02:14] Pici: no access in -motu [02:14] Romney08 though (no t) [02:14] !staff [02:15] Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2 or Christel, I could use a bit of your time :) [02:15] see above regarding romney08 [02:19] Hobbsee, remove the romney08 spambot from -motu [02:20] elkbuntu, psst, you have access [02:20] i do? [02:20] unless /cs access list lies to me [02:20] indeed you do [02:20] lol :) [02:21] yes, all council people should [02:21] * LjL feels left out :P [02:23] would it be safe to exclude *romney*!*@* *mitt*!*@* and *prez*!*@* from channels? :) [02:23] hehe [02:25] * LjL now doesn't feel left out [02:25] Any thoughts on the nick "zippercock" being used in #kubuntu ? [02:25] elkbuntu: for romney and prez, i think just *e*!*@* should do [02:26] LjL, :( [02:27] ardchoille, unless someone complains, i usually pretend i didn't see nicknames that are dubious but not just blatantly bad [02:27] Ok, works for me :) [02:28] zippercock is conceivably a RL surname too [02:28] elkbuntu: I think we already did. [02:28] at least had temporarily - not sure if still applied [02:28] indeed... or well, at least, it might be as far as i know. which is not much concerning english surnames. but the point is, care before classing a nick as bad is due [02:28] * tonyyarusso already put a forward in #ubuntu to here for today's hostmask [02:28] tonyyarusso, i think it's time to do it again, since they've widened their join lists [02:29] elkbuntu: Fine by me. I don't see a need for any legitimate user to have those strings anyway. [02:29] overly wide bans always worry me... [02:29] banforward to here [02:29] or find a portion of hostname that doesn't change, if there is one [02:29] LjL, was just about to suggest that [02:29] Yes, forwards would be preferred. [02:30] LjL, they have way too many hostmasks judging from last time [02:30] LjL: There isn't a static portion, apparently. [02:30] then banforward, but be prepared to have ops complaining about it here :) [02:31] *romney* might possibly be a relatively safe ban [02:31] but *prez* and especially *mitt*, no [02:31] i dont have ops in -devel [02:31] LjL, it'll give us more stats to play with [02:31] Hobbsee, op me up in -devel please? [02:32] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [02:32] elkbuntu: done [02:32] * LjL <3 /me's load balanced bots [02:33] * Pici loves LjL's bots [02:34] ha, you cant even deop through chanserv without access [02:34] too funny [02:34] of course [02:34] deopping via chanserv is something i always found kinda stupid anyway :P [02:34] * tonyyarusso does it, isn't sure why [02:35] tonyyarusso: the only conceivable reason is that, sometimes, you get the odd smarthead saying "woo, look, ljl deopped ljl!" [02:35] as compared to 'haha, chanserve hates ljl' [02:35] hehe [02:36] there's that. [02:36] /cs bed ljl [02:36] later LjL [02:36] gnite LjL [02:36] * Pici swats his crappy isp [02:47] what's mexicant's story? [02:47] 21:32 < Mexicant> Anybody else here after getting banned from #ubuntu? [02:48] ugh [02:48] Thats chuy [02:49] is he vagina boy? [02:49] yes. [02:50] whee [02:50] ok, I'll keep an eye on the guy [03:21] i get the DCCExploit error, and the ubuntu wiki tells me to beg for help reconnecting to #ubuntu in here... help, please [03:22] andruk, did you connect to port 8001? [03:22] yeep [03:23] andruk, ok, let's wait for an op to test you [03:23] heh [03:23] someone else got him [03:24] Hobbsee, all yours [03:24] ack, sorry, xchat crashed on me. yep, i have connected to port 8001 [03:28] right [03:29] andruk: ban removed, please keep connecting to that port [03:29] Hobbsee: will do, thanks! === aryo is now known as sosro_sweet === aryo is now known as sosro_sweet [05:10] af/ljgucxg hucghdhf uuie8p3urrf7g2o16tr330t75410]t8\-\=--+%8riadhcxv yuopdl [05:16] interesting [05:18] elkbuntu: Is that the new freenode-speak? [05:18] :) [05:31] i've got no clue what it was, or why it hit here rather than a populated channel [05:31] actually i see now that i check BT [06:54] Who is kloeri? [06:54] a staffer [06:54] nalioth: ahhh... [06:54] perhaps the cloak isn't suggestive enough. . . [06:55] * jussi01 cries... its 8.55 am, be easy on me... [07:21] alright, back in action [07:29] hi i use chatzilla the firefox plugin and i was told i have to change ports to rejoin ubuntu how do i do that? [07:30] hobojohn3: try using a real irc client. chatzilla isn't. it is a 'proof of concept' to show off the gecko engine, and not very irc rfc compliant [07:34] i dont really use irc except for getting help with ubuntu so i didnt want to download anything big [07:34] none of the irc clients are "big" [07:34] a few hundred Kb at most [07:35] One is even installed by default (although it's not what I would recommend) [07:36] which would you recommend to someone who is not very technical yet? [07:36] XChat (package name 'xchat') [07:36] regular old xchat ( NOT xchat-gnome, which is installed by default ) [07:37] nalioth: Err, the default client is pidgin, not xc-gnome, unless I'm sorely mistaken. [07:37] Regardless, he's right in that xchat-gnome is to be avoided. [07:37] tonyyarusso: i can't keep up with the continuous downward spiral into the toilet of the default irc client ;( [07:37] hehe [07:38] just sudo apt-get xchat? [07:38] hobojohn3: yep [07:38] hobojohn3: correct :) [07:38] nop [07:38] sudo apt-get install xchat [07:38] ;) [07:38] tonyyarusso: irssi was in the first ubuntus, then it was ditched for xchat, then for xchat-gnome and now it's just pidgin [07:39] thnx jussi01 [07:39] nalioth: right - still lamenting dropping irssi [07:39] kubuntu still has irssi [07:39] Hobbsee: kubuntu has iso images? [07:40] ...yes [07:40] hehe [07:40] rofl [07:40] is it me this morning or why isn the bot accepting my factoid suggestiones... [07:42] it hates you [07:42] im in thank you i will now remove chatzilla [07:44] nickspam is You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like $chan - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. (Please set your preferred nick in your client.) The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away " to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines [07:45] jussi01: because you aren't invoking the bot? [07:46] tonyyarusso: you mean i need the ! (tried that [07:46] jussi01: yeah, you also need a "no, " to override existing ones. [07:46] and besides, you shouldnt need that when in pm with the bot... [07:47] tonyyarusso: I dont have bot access... it was supposed to come here. [07:47] oh [07:47] !nickspam [07:47] You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away " to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines [07:48] makes sense. [07:48] tonyyarusso: I added that part cause we get soooo many people coming in then straight away a nick change... [07:49] !no, nickspam is You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like $channel - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users. (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.) The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away " to set your client away silently. See also !Guidelines [07:49] I'll remember that tonyyarusso [07:50] shut up Ubotwo :P [07:50] tonyyarusso: thanks :) [07:51] I've lost a karma point on LP. I wonder what could make it go down [07:51] ardchoille: time [07:52] Seriously? [07:52] yeah [07:52] Ah, Ilearned something new :) [07:52] https://help.launchpad.net/KarmaReductionJan07 [07:52] ardchoille: Nobody understands the algorithm, but that's what it does, yes. [07:53] meh [07:53] or even better: https://help.launchpad.net/KarmaCalculation [07:54] Yeah, just found that one [07:54] :D [07:54] it would be really nice if LjL added floodkicking to the floodbots ;) [07:56] Interesting. [07:56] I saw someone with ove 6000 karma the other day. I think it was Hobbsee [07:56] probably [07:56] My eyes bugged out :) [07:57] * jussi01 runs off to go see riddells karma [07:57] hehe [07:57] it probably was [07:57] although i haven't done much in a while [07:58] meh, riddell only has a measly 3409 :P [07:59] * tonyyarusso checks his [07:59] Hobbsee: has 6525... wow [07:59] heh [07:59] * Hobbsee probably does more bug stuff [07:59] 292 [07:59] There's one with 79358 [07:59] the sabdfl? [08:00] No, not Mark [08:00] https://launchpad.net/~caizhonghan [08:00] I just added a new machine to my network, plan to use it soley fornew release testing and bug hunting [08:12] * jussi01 is sad, as he may lose his server access for irc soon... :( got to get another server!!! [10:05] heya - astharot just told me that there are problems that prevent him from getting a cloak? (https://launchpad.net/~gerardo) [10:06] according to https://launchpad.net/~gerardo/+participation he's part of ubuntumembers [10:13] Seveas: do you know who can help with that ^? [10:15] someone on the council needs to add them to the ubuntu-irc-cloaks team and get a staffer to enable the cloak [10:16] speak of the devil [10:16] ahhh thanks, stdin [10:17] PriceChild: do you think you can take a look at astharot's cloak? (https://launchpad.net/~gerardo) [10:18] astharot, just checking you want this ubuntu/member cloak? [10:18] astharot, could you also ensure you have a secondary nick linked to your first, and an email set on the nick [10:18] /msg ubotu register, for help [10:18] PriceChild: thanks a lot - you ROCK [10:19] .allserv back [10:19] bah [10:19] * Dave2 needs to stop doing that. [10:19] yeah, Dave2 :p [10:20] dholbach, nalioth /away right now. Freenode haven't updated their gcf so I can't ask say Dave2 or Gary here to apply a cloak for me yet. We're just going to have to wait for nalioth to return :) [10:20] plus astharot seems afk also 8-) [10:21] I'll leave it in your hands then. Thanks for looking into this [10:21] * dholbach waves [10:27] here now [10:28] I've no other nicks and I've a linked email === aryo is now known as hana [10:29] astharot, please register a second nick and link it to the first [10:30] astharot, astharot_ for example [10:30] ok === astharot is now known as astharot_ === astharot_ is now known as astharot [10:31] done! [10:31] cool. and just to check you want this cloak? [10:32] mmh yes :) [10:32] nalioth, *ping* cloak for astharot please. https://launchpad.net/~gerardo [10:33] wow nice syntax :D [10:52] astharot, any reason for keeping your nick private? [10:55] jdong, j-dawg is in #ubuntu right now :O [10:55] nah not at all [10:56] should I turn private to off? [11:21] "should you have turned it on" [11:21] to me its one of those features that people see and think "uuu that looks cool, why not" and turn it on without reason, just because it is there. [11:28] something cool i just found out.... holding shift in xchat allows you to hilight timestamps with the text [11:30] bonus [11:35] :( [11:35] irssi <3 [11:36] hey smarter, how can i help? [11:37] hello [11:37] I'd like an ubuntu cloak [11:37] https://launchpad.net/~smarter [11:37] smarter, are you an ubuntu member? [11:37] PriceChild: Yes [11:37] good good [11:37] smarter, could you please ensure you have a secondary nick linked to this one, and an email set via nickserv [11:37] !register [11:37] By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration [11:38] I think I've one [11:38] nalioth, *ping* cloak for smarter please, https://launchpad.net/~smarter [11:38] I check... [11:38] smarter, type "/msg nickserv info" to check [11:39] I've also registred smarter_ [11:39] And my email is correctly set [11:40] smarter, is smarter_ listed on /msg nickserv info, under "Linked Nicks:" ?? [11:40] PriceChild: yes [11:40] good good [11:41] smarter, you'll have to be patient now, the cloak should arrive shortly :) [11:41] PriceChild: thanks ;) [11:41] should I /quit this chan? [11:42] probs best you stick around until it is sorted [11:42] okay [12:19] query is "moleprince" "dmole" from lasst night [12:33] PriceChild: ping, question about cloaks. [12:33] Hey? [12:35] Someone came in here yesterday requesting an Ubuntu cloak, but it turned out that they were only indirectly members of 'ubuntumembers', have we taken this into account for all cloaks given out? [12:35] I didnt even realize until yesterday that indirect memberships even existed. [12:35] it was me [12:35] :) [12:36] Oh, hay :) [12:36] what's the problem about indirect memberships? [12:37] Not a problem, just a question. [12:37] well, wha'ts the question then? [12:37] as in, why does it matter? [12:37] Do indirect memberships to ubuntumembers qualify those people for ubuntu cloaks? [12:38] yes. [12:38] kubuntu membership == ubuntu membership == edubuntu memberhsip, etc [12:38] seeing as we don't give out separate kubuntu cloaks [12:39] Ubuntu membership should be harder than Kubuntu, to show that Ubuntu is better :D [12:40] Hobbsee: What about motus? [12:40] they're members too [12:41] Pici: they can get membership thru motu now [12:41] Well, then, I think that the irc-council should make sure that all their members know this. [12:41] if they've made motu, they've definetly done the contribution side. [12:41] Pici, the motu team on launchpad is inside the ~ubuntumembers group on launchpad [12:41] irc-council: fix it, kthxbye. [12:41] as is kubuntumembets [12:41] *kubuntumembers [12:41] Pici, I'm not sure what you mean? whose members know what? [12:42] (going to exam in 10 mins so please be quick) [12:43] PriceChild: It could just have been a misunderstanding, but it my my impression that nal denied astharot a cloak yesterday because he was an indirect member of ubuntumembers [12:44] My connection was being a bit unstable, so it could just have been that I missed something though. [12:44] atoponce called the ops in #ubuntu () [12:45] * Pici opens a can of worms [12:46] Pici, ok well indirect membership *is* membership so will talk to nalioth about it when I get back :) [12:46] Pici, i know he's cloaked people with indirect membership before and we've talked about it [12:48] what are the requirments for membership, they seem a little grey [12:48] PriceChild: Pici: like me for example [12:48] from time to time they do I should say [12:49] ikonia, sustained contribution to ubuntu of around 3 months, can currently be applied for through the CC, KC or MC. You must also sign the CoC to agree to follow it. [12:49] that seems basic enough [12:49] define contribution though [12:49] 'seems' [12:49] ikonia, the idea is that soon other councils like forums and irc will be able to approve too [12:49] ikonia, *anything* [12:49] ikonia, loco's, code, artwork, support, etc. etc. [12:50] PriceChild: ahh ok, so say a forum contributer would be potentially "ok" [12:50] thats a wider net than I thought [12:50] ikonia: or just irc lurking [12:50] ikonia, forums council are about to go through the process to start being ok to approve [12:50] very interesting [12:50] ikonia, yeah and i'm pretty sure its going to be a *lot* harder to be approved by them [12:50] it'll be mostly forum staff, team leaders etc. that go through that route [12:51] Does sabdfl sit on the other boards other than the CC? in terms of aproving members? [12:51] Pici, nope [12:51] and i think the CC are tired of approving members at meetings [12:51] so i doubt he'd wanna be ;) [12:51] Interesting. [12:51] no [12:51] Pici: [12:51] well not tired then, but want to spend time on more important matters [12:51] Hobbsee: [12:51] Pici: he's on the tech board [12:51] Hobbsee: Do those approve members? [12:51] Hobbsee, they don't approve members do they? [12:51] speaking of which, it would be nice if one of them actually looked at irc [12:51] no, they don't. [12:52] Tm_T: whoops, wasnt thinking there. [12:52] Well, my question was only regarding memberships. ;) [12:52] jussi01: :-P [12:52] * Hobbsee attempts to poke [12:52] fail [12:53] no, it appears i've passed [12:53] whether he'll do it or not...i've no idea [12:53] !test | Hobbsee [12:53] Hobbsee: Failed. [12:54] ubotu has spoken. [12:54] Sorry, I don't know anything about has spoken. - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [12:54] * PriceChild resists [12:54] yay, success! [12:55] I'm off, back in a couple of hours [12:56] hopefully nal will be back around that time too [12:56] have a good exam PriceChild [12:56] Good luck [13:05] :`( @ Hobbsee [13:07] Daviey: yes? [13:07] Tm_T: yep [13:40] In #ubuntu, erawfish said: !Ops Poobleo is a spammer [13:40] can somebody have a look at Finnaly finished my project -> http://tinyurl.com/34vk45 in #ubuntu, 2nd time posted in the channel [13:41] is this just spam ? [13:41] coooh never mind, just re-read [13:42] thanks elkbuntu [13:42] yes, it's some 'get people to click here to advance' kinda game thing. i had to check it wasnt just some clueless idiot [13:42] as long as it wasn't on nimp. [13:43] he's gone, anyway. [13:43] (from the network, that is) [13:43] * Tm_T hugs elkbuntu [13:44] Dave2, courtesy a free k-ticket? [13:44] indeed [13:46] * elkbuntu wishes there was a way to preemptively k-ticket the romneybots :) [13:46] I like the phrase k-ticket [13:46] ikonia, yep. it goes non-stop to hell [13:46] chuga chuga chuga chuga chuga chuga choo choo!!! [13:47] !train [13:47] Sorry, I don't know anything about train - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [13:47] fed up of people in ubuntu "the windblows attitude of needing to reboot" [13:47] there is nothing wrong with requiring a reboot, kernel updates require reboots [13:47] ikonia, i'm fed up with any idiotic mash of windows or microsoft to be honest [13:48] * jussi01 seconds that [13:48] just people trying to sound anti-microsoft for no reason [13:48] "wow the MS solution of rebooting" [13:48] i can tolerate MS, since it's an abbreviation, but the rest i hate [13:48] he had to reboot - he did a kernel update [13:48] elkbuntu, if you really want to make people fear it, you tell 'em it's going... to Hull :O [13:48] * Hobbsee just calls it 'doze. [13:48] winblows M$ etc etc etc [13:48] * Dave2 hides from any Hull residents. [13:48] Dave2: onl a uk guy would get that [13:48] Dave2, i was thinking /dev/null personally [13:48] only [13:48] hull is worse ! [13:49] yes, but people will at least *get* it [13:49] although, you brits could do /dev/hull and it'd probably be got [13:50] anyway, the reason i hate the anti-MS stuff is because it makes our people seem as bad as their people [13:52] exactly [13:52] There was a good post on planet-u a while back from someone basically telling everyone to cut it out. [13:53] and rightly so [13:55] whilever we have people in certain FOSS projects bagging the heck out of other FOSS projects, we'll never stop the bagging of Microsoft [13:56] just tired of it, especially when the people saying it don't actually know why they are saying it, just because they think it's cool [13:57] yep, like 'micro$haft will die and we will rule teh world!' kinda crap [13:57] so tired of it [13:57] like hello, replacing one homogenous global network with another is just stupid [13:58] I can ha cheeseburger az well? [13:58] so effing stupid it'd be laughable if it weren't such a dangerous notion [13:58] Pici: thank you, that was me being stupid [13:59] Pici: I was actually going for "flashissues" but was just scrappy [14:05] i love those generous homos. [14:06] always skipping up and throwing decent taste and assorted fabulousness. [14:24] hey can I get a check please? [14:26] jughead, one sec [14:29] where are you banned form jughead? [14:29] #ubuntu [14:30] unbanned.... thanks LjL [14:30] I guess my script isn't working [14:30] thanks Mez [14:39] LjL, you ought to put that 'if you really want to try un-b0rk your automatix-violated machine' stuff into a factoid if it's not already [14:40] despite how good LjL suggestion is, a clean install is the best way to be certain they are on a standard platform [14:40] they can mess up peoples advice [14:40] and waste others time trying to help them a.) fix it b.) get support on a borked platform [14:40] elkbuntu, not really because on one hand, i'm really unsure it's enough, and on the other, debsums *always* gives a lot of errors about legitimate packages, so it really involves a lot of manual trickery to do it correctly [14:41] if we had better tools, it would be more feasible, and months ago we were actually thinking of an automated procedure to get rid of third party stuff [14:41] but the tools are just missing, the integrity-check blueprint is not in place yet === no0tic_ is now known as no0tic === no0tic_ is now known as no0tix === no0tix is now known as no0tic [15:24] Jack_Sparrow called the ops in #ubuntu (Phap) [15:59] uhm my cloak needs an update :P [16:00] astharot, hmm? [16:02] see my cloak [16:02] astharot, what's wrong with it? [16:03] i'm here to get a ubuntu/member one [16:03] err... you *have* one. [16:03] ah sorry [16:03] astharot, do you not want the pdpc bit? [16:03] uhm [16:03] it's not that I don't want it's that I'm not a supporter anymore :) [16:03] pdpc and freenode cloaks stack [16:03] it's not... "fair" ? [16:03] PriceChild: don't show off your cloak... it's ridiculous enough :P [16:04] LjL, was just giving an example [16:04] that he's not hte only one [16:04] astharot, ah right, if you're no longer donating then might be polite to inform a staffer :) [16:04] PriceChild: yeah but your cloak is hilarious still [16:04] LjL, how's it hilarious? [16:04] LjL, why? [16:05] PriceChild: where to ask? [16:05] astharot: indeed, we don't have much to do with pdpc cloaks. you have an ubuntu member cloak, that's what competes to us... for pdpc, inform staff [16:05] PriceChild: in #freenode, or to /stats p [16:05] astharot, see above [16:05] ok [16:06] no0tic, PriceChild: ljl!n=ljl@continued/sustainer/of.the.fact.that/pricechilds/x-39483/cloak.is.hilarious [16:08] [17:08] * p :0 staff members [16:08] [17:08] * p :End of /STATS report :\ [16:08] astharot, patience then :) [16:08] irc may be real-time, but people aren't always availiable [16:09]