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hatterhas anyone experienced buggy performance with the via-rhine driver on gutsy server ?05:22
Doonzcan anyone help me with getting Ubuntu set up with port multipliers?05:32
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krautmoin08:18
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milestonehi all10:27
milestonei am trying to upgrade my old postgresql database 7.4 to the new 8.2 that comes with gutsy fibbon. When I run pg_upgradecluster 7.4 mail as described in the Readme of postgresql-common, i am getting a Error: could not get cluster default encoding10:28
milestonewhat am i doing wrong?10:28
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XiXaQis the server kernel compiled with CONFIG_TASK_IO_ACCOUNTING?13:00
XiXaQin either gutsy or hardy?13:00
sorenXiXaQ: No.13:17
XiXaQoh, I hope it will be.13:20
XiXaQhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/+bug/15719113:20
ubotuLaunchpad bug 157191 in linux-meta "please enable CONFIG_TASKSTATS, especially CONFIG_TASK_IO_ACCOUNTING" [Undecided,New]13:20
XiXaQit's been reported though, but noone seems to have acted on it.13:21
sorenIt's marked as experimental.13:23
XiXaQyeah, so? ;)13:32
_rubenso roll your own (experimental) kernel(package) :-)13:38
XiXaQI think I'd rather just switch to debian :)13:39
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zulmorning14:27
zulmathiaz: ping ill see what I can do about #154149 (mod_authz_external)15:01
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citybirdhello. is it a driver or a bios problem with the HP Proliant DL380 when the booting process stops at "Attempting to boot from Hard Drive (C:)"16:28
Gargoylecitybird: could be a boot sector problem. Has grub been installed properly?16:29
citybirdGargoyle: i was using the 7.10 server install cd. i thought that this would be installed from there16:30
Gargoylecitybird: should have been.16:30
citybirdGargoyle: how would i do it manually? rescue option?16:31
Gargoyledid you erase the entire disk or just make room for ubuntu?16:32
citybirdGargoyle: sorry for the delay in responding. I erased the entire disk and created 4 partitions on a raid 5 disk.16:41
citybirdGargoyle: the boot partition i marked wit the boot flag16:41
Gargoylesoftware raid or hardware?16:41
citybirdGargoyle: hardware raid. I set it up with the bios utility.16:42
Gargoylecitybird: If it's like our dell servers then I think you need to set the bios to boot from the raid array.16:42
GargoyleIn the normal bios, not the raid utility bios16:43
zulwhat kind of raid card is it?16:43
citybirdGargoyle: i checked that and the bios looks ok. there are many boot options. usb, internal raid, external fibrechannel, etc...16:43
citybirdGargoyle: perhaps i should try installing on the fiberchannel disks and set it to boot from there.16:44
citybirdthere is a standard boot order menu and a boot controller order menu. both are set to point to the internal array.16:46
GargoyleYou could try booting from the install CD, one of the options in the boot menu is to "boot an installed system" (or "boot from 1st HD" or something like that)16:47
citybirdGargoyle: yes i tried that too. still no love. im beginning to think that this is a new problem.16:48
GargoyleWas the server working?16:48
citybirdi tried searching for the same problem and noone has had it before16:48
citybirdGargoyle: yes it was an exchange server in a previous life16:49
citybirdand i havent moved it.16:49
Gargoyle"booting from drive C:" does not sound very linux like to me... I would guess at it still having a windows based boot sector.16:50
nealmcbsoren: feeling any better?16:51
citybirdbooting from drive c: is a bios message. i was just wondering if it was failing there or if it was possible that there was some sort of driver issue after reading the boot partition.16:51
citybirdor perhaps the install was putting grub on the wrong disk array.16:52
citybirdmabee i should try disconnecting the fibre channel cables during the install.16:54
sorennealmcb: Slightly. I'm at about 67% now, I think.16:54
citybirddam i need a remote screen16:56
nealmcbsoren: hope you can get some rest :-)16:58
sommernealmcb: any luck installing ubuntu on your olpc?17:02
nealmcbsommer: I haven't tried, but have a friend (fedora dev) that is working on xfce for it17:11
nealmcbit is great fun to show the olpc to non-techy friends - they just ooh and ah (running the "record" activity to show them video of themselves is popular :-)17:12
sommernealmcb: ya... I like most of the apps, but I must admit I bought it as a regular laptop not an educational tool17:23
sommerI've found that the Sugar interface doesn't let you multi-task that well... heh17:23
nealmcbhow about this for a new factoid: ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server.  It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management, unlike webmin.  See the plans for Hardy in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EboxSpec17:36
nealmcb!ebox17:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ebox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:39
jjessedid i miss the mtg time again ?17:40
nealmcbjjesse: 1:42 ago....17:42
jjessedang it17:45
jjessegoogle calendar didn't remind me17:45
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zulnealmcb: looks good to me18:22
zulhas anyone thought of collecting links from websites that could possibly help users? (ie: http://www.howtoforge.com/openldap-samba-domain-controller-ubuntu7.10)18:59
jjessehrm interesting idea, shouldn't those then go into the documentation?19:00
mathiazwhat about adding the links to a wiki page covering the same topic if a wiki page already exists - if not, create a wiki page for the topic and add the link to it.19:04
mathiaz?19:05
jjessemathiaz that would make sense19:05
jjessemaybe more sense then including them in system documentation19:05
zulmathiaz: thats what I was thinking19:05
* jjesse wonders if there is an existing wiki page19:05
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J_Phi all19:07
jjessehello J_P19:07
J_Ppeople, I have one server with RAID1 (md0 = /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1) via software and I would like passa fsck to see if there are some badblocks. My question is: I will go to linux single (init 1) and I need run fsck on  /dev/md0 or in /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1 ?19:07
mathiazJ_P: /dev/md019:08
J_Pmathiaz: thank you guy! :-)19:09
ScottKIt'd be nice is those who remember we are starting a meeting might think to mention it here for those of us that don't.19:27
zulScottK: but you are suppose to know everything though :)19:29
ScottKYeah.  Well I may, but I'm organizationally impaired.19:29
jjessedon't worry i missed it as welll19:29
nxvl_workthe meeting wasn't like 5 hours ago?19:29
jjessethoght i had google calendar to remind me19:29
nxvl_workgcal it's a good tool to remember such thinks, but i need to go to a client at that time :(19:30
nxvl_workso i couldn't attend19:30
nxvl_workScottK: still around?19:53
ScottKSure19:53
nxvl_workcan you take a look at the comment on Bug #13083619:53
nxvl_workplease19:53
ubotuLaunchpad bug 130836 in apache2 "Specify OpenDocument icon(s) in Apache2 configuration" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/13083619:54
nxvl_worki don't understand why the license isn't compatible, i don't see where it limits the use or modification of the icons19:54
* ScottK looks19:56
nxvl_workScottK: they say the license is the problem, but i don't fin why20:08
* ScottK is still reading20:08
* nxvl_work *HUGS* ScottK20:08
dantalizingget a room20:09
ScottKdantalizing: This is Ubuntu.  Stuff like that happens all the time around here.  You get used to it.20:09
ScottKnxvlq20:09
ScottKUrgh.20:09
nxvl_workdantalizing: yes, we love to hug each other on Ubuntu20:10
ScottKnxvl_work: Does Pete Harlow own Trademarks on OpenDoc?20:10
dantalizingnobody hugs me20:10
nxvl_workdantalizing: thats why the Bug day it's called Hug day20:10
* nxvl_work HUGS dantalizing20:10
dantalizing'cept my mom, she says i'm special20:10
nxvl_workScottK: i don't think so20:10
ScottKThen how can he assert such a Trademark?20:11
ScottKLicense is bogus as is.20:11
nxvl_workScottK: i have c&p from the source where i get the icons20:11
ScottKUnderstand.  I'd say as is, it's not distributable.20:11
ScottKYou have no copyright license.20:12
ScottKWithout that, you can't distribute.20:12
nxvl_workmmm20:12
nxvl_workso, i need to find other icons with a better license?20:12
ScottKOr get the author of the license to give you an actual license.20:13
ScottKApache license would be cool.20:13
nxvl_workmmm20:14
nxvl_workthe author is subscribed to the bug..20:14
nxvl_workScottK: http://www.catnip.co.uk/opendocument/icons/#apache20:15
nxvl_workScottK: this is where i get the icons20:15
ScottKThat page doesn't say Trademark.  Where did that come from?20:17
nxvl_workScottK: yes, it says after the generic icons20:18
nxvl_workmore or less on the middle of the page20:18
ScottKRight20:19
ScottKI don't think he can Trademark the icons.20:19
ScottKThey are copyright him.20:19
nxvl_workbut as i remember it's unclear if that license if for the icons i downloaded or the other ones20:20
ScottKTo Trademark something you have to be engaged in trade (businsess) and he's not.20:20
ScottKWhich ones did you download?  The ones above that or below?20:20
nxvl_workthe first ones20:21
ScottKThen I'd say that the Trademark and the bit follows applies to those20:22
nxvl_workthat's what i thought20:23
nxvl_workso, you say i need to contact the author and ask him for the license?20:23
ScottKAs a copyright license, the paragraph he's got there is fine I think.20:23
ScottKI don't see it as imcompatible with the Apache license.20:23
ScottKThe claim of Trademark, is I think, a problem.20:24
nxvl_workbut i can't change the license from trademark to copyright without the permission of the author or can i?20:24
ScottKNo.  You can't.20:24
ScottKIANAL and all that, of course.20:25
nxvl_workIANAL?20:27
nxvl_workwhat i understand, soren meant as incompatible license, is the "identification and promotion " part20:28
ScottKI Am Not A Lawyer20:38
ScottKYeah.  Actually that's a DFSG problem.20:39
ScottKIt's a limitation of use20:39
ScottKNow that you mention it.20:39
nxvl_workmmm20:40
ScottKIt'd be highly useful if the author would pick some ASF compatible license (which I think is most anything except GPL v2 or earlier).20:40
nxvl_workso it's not a compatible license20:40
ScottKNope.  Doesn't meet DFSG which we mostly follow.20:41
nxvl_workon that web, he also license some icons with CC20:41
ScottKThe one exception that I know of is we'll take GFDL, but Debian won't.20:41
ScottKOff the top of my head, that particular CC license is OK, but I got ~2 hours of sleep last night, so I could be totally wrong.20:43
nxvl_workheh20:43
nxvl_workthat happens20:44
nxvl_worksoren: around?20:44
jetolehey guys, I am looking for a php app or something that I can run on my server and it can give me graphs of cpu usages and ram usage over periods of time etc, does anyone know of anything like this?21:33
nxvl_workjetole: nagios?21:41
mathiazjetole: have a look at cricket21:51
zuljetole: hobbit21:52
jetolealright, I will look at all 3 although I think nagios may be more then what I need from past experience with it21:57
jetolehmmm, I can't seem to find many ubuntu specific docs or posts on ubuntu forums, should I be running the apt-get cricket.deb etc? or should I compile from source ?22:20
mathiazjetole: apt-get cricket should install cricket on your computer22:24
ScottKMore specifically sudo apt-get install cricket22:27
nxvl_workis there any way to check which packages hasn't a watch already?22:27
jetolemathiaz: and how do I use it once it is installed, how do I see it from a browser?22:38
jetoleI didn't see a file in site-available or a dov in /var/www22:39
leonelhttp://www.postgresql.org/about/news.907   <-- I hope  I will make  to hardy22:39
leonels/I will/it will/g22:39
mathiazjetole: check /usr/share/doc/cricket/ - this directory should have some documentation in it22:39
jetolethanks mathiaz22:40
nxvl_workwhy is Bug #24864 still assigned to server team?22:51
ubotuLaunchpad bug 24864 in acpi-support "Samba mount point becomes inaccessible after hibernation/suspend" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2486422:51
nxvl_workis more a problem with acpi than with samba22:51
DoonzHi there i need help applying a patch for my esata controller so that it supports the port multiplier function23:41
DoonzCan anyone help me with applying a patch to my system?23:56
leoneldo you have the patch   and the source ?23:56
Doonzhttp://home-tj.org/wiki/index.php/Libata-tj-stable <- that is where the patch is located23:58
Doonzim very new to linux in genral23:58
Doonzbasically i have a esata controller card that supports port multiplier23:58
Doonzand from what that site says is that i need to patch the kernel23:58
Doonzbut it doesnt give me a good walkthrough of howto do it23:59

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