NexaMaceric: are you on a fresh install, or have you updated yet?00:00
NexaMacit litterally took me weeks to get my nvidia drivers properly installed when i first got around to converting to linux :<00:01
ericyeah i just installed the 8.4 alpha00:01
NexaMac8.4? o_O00:02
terran4000That did the trick for me ..00:02
NexaMacdidnt work for me :/00:02
ericit's the beta of the new one comming out in april00:02
NexaMacno scripts or envy or anything00:02
NexaMac7800 xfx00:02
NexaMachad to do it "manually" :>00:02
terran4000heh, always a treat.00:02
NexaMacpurged my old drivers, downloaded new ones, went command line and used some kernel producing program00:03
NexaMaci fail at english and tech talk so badly now00:03
NexaMactired tbh00:03
NexaMacso baer white mi ;o00:03
terran4000NexaMac: Welcome to my everyday life ;-)00:03
NexaMacnot all answers i give out may be correct either.. so if their wrong, up yours scotty!00:04
ericso far i have to say i like linux00:04
terran4000I have a love/hate relationship with it.00:04
NexaMacmy first impression too, then nvidia made me dislike it, then nvidia made me love it :P00:04
erici can see that happining00:04
terran4000Ati makes me want to shoot my computer >_>00:04
NexaMacterran4000: i got love/hate relationship with osx00:05
NexaMacits so incredibly stable at times, and good looking00:05
NexaMacbut other times it crash or... applications crash for no reason00:05
NexaMacyou cant change the look much00:05
NexaMacno terminal is ever used :/00:05
terran4000Not to mention installing anything decent takes 10 years00:05
NexaMacis getting too much like wind.o.s00:05
ericI love ATI but i thought i would try a nvidia card since my last card was a X1800TX ATI man i loved that card00:05
NexaMaceric: Nvidia > ati00:06
terran4000At least in linux00:06
NexaMacalways has been, always will be like that imo :p00:06
NexaMaconly downside to my geforce card is, that it makes my vodoo 3 banshee look so shitty :<00:06
* terran4000 hugs his own old voodoo card.00:07
ericWell there just not keeping up with nvidia so much that i just have to go with Nvidia :(00:07
terran4000Don't know why, but I seriously love that card.00:07
erichehe i had 2 voodoos running SLI or what ever they called back then00:07
NexaMaci still cant decide, do i upgrade to a 3200 NOK 768 mb vid card, or do i get 2x 256mb vid cards for like 2400 NOK00:07
NexaMactheres a hefty price difference, and i dont see the need for more then 512mb atm00:08
terran4000Personal preference: go with one card. Less hassle00:08
NexaMacyeah but teh moneeeey00:08
Chousukemore RAM probably won't help you, though.00:08
NexaMaci can seriously upgrade my system to the double for a total of 4k NOK00:08
terran4000Chousuke: agreed.00:08
Chousukeit doesn't affect speed that much, unless you have huge textures.00:08
NexaMacunless i go for the 768 card, then ill have to go up to 5k NOK00:08
NexaMacwhich i could build an entire computer for P00:09
ericif i wan't rinning linux i would do the 2 cards cause i think it would run faster than the 1 better card00:09
terran4000Speaking of two video card and Sli ... does that even work in Kubuntu/Linux?00:09
NexaMacthats also a good question00:09
NexaMacwas getting to that00:09
erici dbout it00:09
NexaMacmeh i guess i can find out00:10
NexaMacthink my brother left behind 2 vid cards when he moved00:10
qbuntuwhats the name of the CDW/R program for KDE ?  I need to burn a cd00:10
terran4000I had enough trouble getting 2 head working!00:10
terran4000qbuntu: K3B00:10
NexaMac2 head?00:10
terran4000er ..00:10
terran4000dual head00:10
NexaMacdual head?00:10
NexaMacyoure like an ogre?00:10
terran4000I'm just pissed that I don't have a 2nd card so I could get a 3rd monitor00:11
NexaMacdual screen?00:11
terran4000Dual monitor just isn't enough these days.00:11
NexaMaci really dont see why you would need more then 2 monitors00:11
thomasnuggetts__can anyone help because I can't change the default page that my apache2 server loads upon connection00:11
NexaMacim using 2, one for IRC and one for movies/gaming/whateverthefuckelse00:12
terran4000I'm just too lazy to switch between desktops ^^00:12
NickPrestathomasnuggetts__, have you edited your index.html page in /var/www?00:12
thomasnuggetts__yes it is in /var/www00:12
ericok well i'm going to see if i get to reinstall Kubuntu after messing up my Nvidia driver install :)00:12
NexaMacwhy reinstall?00:12
NexaMacits easier and faster to remove the old drivers00:13
thomasnuggetts__NickPresta: yes it is in that folder00:13
NickPrestathomasnuggetts__, and looking at your httpd.conf, are you sure you're editing the correct file? Check where your document root is located.00:13
NexaMacwhat exactly did you mess up?00:13
evil_techanyone running kubuntu on a it8212 ide controller?00:13
ericcause i read a few people after installing the driver where not able to boot back in to the desktop00:13
NexaMacnah cause they noobed it up and dunno how to reconfigure i suppose00:14
NickPresta!xconfig | eric00:14
ubotueric: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes00:14
NexaMacif everything fails and you cant get back into X, all you have to do is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"00:14
NexaMacselect Vesa as driver00:14
NexaMacit just works00:14
ericWell being that this is the first time i have tryed Linux i just might be in the same boat :(00:14
NexaMactook me about 10 reinstalls before i learned that00:14
thomasnuggetts__NickPresta: document root is /var/www and btw it is not the httpd.conf file...that file is empty it is the default.conf file00:15
NexaMacwe just saved you tho :P00:15
ericok i'll wright that down too :)00:15
NexaMaceric: is your xserver currently working?00:15
sub[t]rnljust keep a backup of a working xorg.conf00:15
terran4000time to go get the cats some fresh food and me some paint (yeyz for painting walls AGAIN! <sigh>). Cheers guys and gals.00:15
NickPrestathomasnuggetts__, ah okay. I don't use the repo. version of Apache 2, I wasn't aware what the config. file was called. What happens if you remove or rename the index.html file? Do you get a directory listing (via auto index)?00:15
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ericyeah as far as i know00:15
NexaMacsudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup00:16
NickPresta!away > terran4000|away00:16
terran4000|awaymy bad, sorry00:16
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NexaMaceric: another lesson to be learned, if you read something in capitol letters you write it in capitol letters00:17
NexaMaclike the folder X1100:17
NexaMacx11 doesnt work cause its not named x11 its named X1100:17
ericyeah i was trying to get in the documents dir but it kept saying it was not there do i tryed using case sesetive and it worked00:18
NickPrestaeric, GNU+Linux is case sensitive :)00:19
thomasnuggetts__NickPresta: aww ok it gave me an index00:19
thomasnuggetts__NickPresta: so...00:19
ericok so brbr if it works :)00:19
NickPrestathomasnuggetts__, check your conf file for the 'DirectoryIndex' directive. You should see something like: DirectoryIndex index.html. If you want to have index.php automatically load when you visit http://yoursite.com/, you need to add that to the DirectoryIndex directive00:20
HS^if kde4 releases......can kubuntu please search some better default fonts?00:21
HS^maybe it is my monitor......00:21
HS^but damn00:21
thomasnuggetts__NickPresta: yes i was looking for that too...i have an apache server on windows and it uses that but i can't find directoryindex here in my confg file....i'm gonna look again...00:21
HS^am i whining if i think these fonts are ugly?00:22
HS^(from kubuntu site)00:22
HS^the menu i talk about00:23
NickPrestaHS^, you can adjust your font settings within the System Settings dialogue00:23
HS^something looks wrong wit it.. some letters are all thick00:23
HS^well the best i can get is like the screenshot00:23
HS^these fonts dont even work without antialias or hinting00:24
NexaMacHS^: looks perfectly fine here o_O00:24
HS^NexaMac the screenshot?00:24
ardchoilleHS^: What menu?00:24
thomasnuggetts__NickPresta: am I working with a good apache version? its 2.2.300:24
HS^i think you use linux too long00:24
HS^to think those font look good00:25
NexaMacno seriously00:25
NexaMacwhats wrong with them? :<00:25
HS^look at the 'w'in View00:25
thomasnuggetts__NickPresta: would it help if I showed you the config file's contents?00:25
NickPrestathomasnuggetts__, the latest version of Apache 2 is 2.2.6, although 2.2.3 is fine if you're just running a home dev. server. Sure, !pastebin me your conf file00:25
HS^these are not sharp fonts00:26
HS^and looking at them for a long time will give you serious problems00:26
NexaMacnothing wrong :/00:26
NexaMacwhat kinda monitor are you using and whats your current resolution?00:26
HS^i see it the same as you in the screenshot00:27
HS^but i make a screenshot with a windows app next to it00:27
NexaMacsooo what youre saying is that the screenshot is fine but the original isnt?00:27
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HS^no i say these font in screenshot and in kubuntu are horrible00:29
HS^look at the difference00:29
Jatzcan someone help me with kmenu?00:29
HS^it may be small to see at first sight....00:29
ardchoille!nickspam > thomas00:29
HS^but it matters a lot00:29
thomasHS^: sorry i'm trying to login properly00:30
NexaMacthe mirc ones look worse to me :P00:30
JatzI just installed kubuntu00:30
Jatzand kmenu is being weird00:30
HS^you are joking00:30
NexaMacno im serious :/00:30
NickPrestaJatz, what do you mean weird?00:30
NexaMacthe mirc ones is smaller00:31
Jatza bunch of apps in it show _:Entries in Kmenu: (some app) App name00:31
NexaMacapart from that their pretty much the same00:31
Jatzand more stuff after that00:31
JatzI just want it to show the app name00:31
HS^NexaMac .... you are very subjective i think00:31
GreeneryJatz: did u try to edit them?00:31
Jatzedit the menu item?00:32
Jatzit doesn't look wrong.00:32
Jatzso yeah, help?00:33
Greeneryi can't quite get ur problem really00:34
Jatzin the menu it displays all this crap. it's all prefixed with _:Entries in KMenu:00:35
thomas_newbie__NickPresta: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51281/00:35
GreeneryJatz: u using en_ca?00:37
JatzI think00:37
Jatzand going to trash does _:Verb Trash00:37
Greenerytry to change it to english US00:37
Greenerylooks liek its a known problem00:38
Jatzscratch that00:38
JatzI was on EN-US00:38
Jatzthis is bugging me.00:39
Greeneryso ur not using en_ca atm?00:39
Jatznever was00:39
NickPrestathomas_newbie__, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51287/00:40
Greenerydouble check ur regional and language00:40
Greeneryit might be en_ca by accident00:41
Jatznope, US English00:41
thomas_newbie__NickPresta: nick why wasn't it there though by default?00:41
thomas_newbie__NickPresta: how did you find that text?00:42
NickPrestathomas_newbie__, it is possible that you don't have 'mod_dir' but I doubt it. I got that text from my conf file :)00:42
NickPrestathomas_newbie__, does that fix the problem?00:42
Greenerytry to change the Kmenu to "Name Only"00:43
thomas_newbie__NickPresta: let me check....I do have one stupid question though...when working in kate I cannot save the file directly to the /www folder because of permissions....the only way for me to get around it is save it somewhere and then use "kdesu konqueror" to copy and paste...any other easier way???00:44
JatzGreenery, how?00:44
NexaMacanyone here using a macbook?00:47
NickPrestathomas_newbie__, you can run kate with root privileges, you can change the permissions on /var/www or you can change your document root to somewhere writeable by you (best option).00:47
NexaMacnot a pro one but a regular cheapass macbook ? :<00:47
thomas_newbie__NickPresta: what do you recommend? change documentroot to /home?00:48
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »00:48
NickPrestathomas_newbie__, i have a little directory in /home/myusername/ called 'public_html'. I put all my documents for the web in that folder.00:49
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NexaMacif eric/sadfish ever gets back, will someone highlight me? :P00:55
NexaMaccan someone say my name? :o00:59
NickPrestasomeone will NexaMac01:00
Flare183ok i'm installing lmms where is the qt3 dir at?01:00
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thomas_newbie__NickPresta: "You don't have permissino to access / on this server"??01:04
Hammer89Hello. Trying to install Ubuntu dual boot with Vista... I have the installation program open from the liveCD... but the migration assistant isn't finding Vista... any thoughts on what I should do?01:04
NexaMacmigration assistant? :<01:04
NexaMacis that the one that copies your userinfo from win to linux?01:04
NexaMacdo you really need it? ;)01:04
Hammer89I'm just concerned that it isn't detecting Vista01:05
NickPrestathomas_newbie__, what are the permissions of your www folder?01:05
NexaMacmake sure you partion manually :p01:05
Hammer89I partitioned from wondows... I used the guided option to use the largest free space01:05
thomas_newbie__NickPresta: i created public_html folder in my home directory and changed documentroot01:05
NickPrestathomas_newbie__, make sure the directory is set to executable. It should look like rwxr-xr-x01:06
Flare183how do fix this: checking QTDIR... configure: error: *** QTDIR must be defined, or --with-qtdir option given01:06
Flare183i can't find the right qt folder01:07
NickPrestaFlare183, do you have the -dev packages installed?01:07
Flare183which package qt3-dev?01:07
wesleyhow can i check a ntsf file system on faults the file system is named sda201:07
JucatoFlare183: libqt3-mt-dev01:08
Flare183oh ok i hate that package but ok01:08
Hammer89NexaMac: I'm kinda new... could you guide me through using the manual partitioning option?01:08
NexaMacHammer89: a lot of people are gonna argue on this one i guess, but you really dont need more then 10gb / partition and a swap partition, so do it manually and enter the info manually and you should be safe01:08
NexaMachow much space were you planning on using for your kubuntu?01:09
NexaMackeep in mind you can access your windisks from kubuntu so you dont have to plan 2398749873 petabytes on games and music01:09
Hammer89NexaMac: it's actually Ubuntu... but the Ubuntu channel was too crammed01:09
NexaMacah :P01:09
NexaMaceven better01:09
Hammer89I have 17748 MBs free01:10
thomas_newbie__NickPresta: are you assuming i'm using the command line :S?  and public_html is executable. The only difference is that public_html belongs to me and /www/ belongs to root01:10
NexaMacHammer89: do you NEED a lot of that space?01:10
Hammer89probably not...01:10
NexaMacthe ubuntu takes about 2500 + twice your ram, tho i would go for at least 10gb on the ubuntu partition :/01:10
NexaMachow much ram do you have?01:11
Flare183Jucato: ok now what try the ./configure again?01:11
NexaMacthen create a new parition Swap and make it 4096mb01:11
wesleythat will not do it Hammer89 at least 3 gb you need01:11
Hammer89I have ubuntu running on a much slower system...01:12
NickPrestathomas_newbie__, well, you should only be concerned with public_html, since you aren't using the www folder anymore. public_html has to be world executable. Press Alt+F2 and type: chmod 755 public_html01:12
Flare183Jucato: still same error01:12
Flare183Jucato: i'm trying to install lmms01:12
Flare183the newest version01:12
NexaMacHammer89: well according to wesley 3gb should do the trick01:12
Hammer89*slightly confused*01:13
NexaMacwhere are you currently?01:13
NexaMacare you on the manual partition screen?01:13
wesley2 gb will cause that if you install a few programs you have you disk full kind of frustration will that be01:13
NexaMaccreate a new partition, select "swap" in the drop down menu and make it 4096 gb01:13
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NexaMacthen create another partition and name it /01:14
NexaMacthis one should be at least 5gb tho i always go for minimum 10gb01:14
Hammer89"type for the new partition" what should I select?01:14
MinatakuOld rule of thumb was double the system RAM01:14
MinatakuFor swap01:14
NexaMacif its swap, swap01:14
NexaMacif not its /01:14
Hammer89the options are primary and logical01:14
NexaMacor root01:14
MinatakuCurrently, I'd say it's double up to 1GB of RAM01:14
MinatakuAfter that, the same as RAM01:15
NexaMacerr leave it as it is01:15
wesleyif you wanna install some games or kde4 i should take more gb than 301:15
NexaMacMinataku: really?01:15
rotterdmnhi lol01:15
MinatakuThat's how I do it, NexaMac01:15
NexaMacare we trolling rotterdmn? :<01:15
rotterdmnlol no01:15
MinatakuNexaMac: Unless it's a collection system of mine with little HDD space01:15
Hammer89location for new partition... beginning or end?01:15
MinatakuNexaMac: In which case I'll bend it to fit01:15
NexaMacMinataku: aight, i wouldnt know, all my machines are either 1gb or 2gb so i just double it01:15
rotterdmnI need help with virtualbox :'(01:15
rotterdmnthe shit won't work01:15
NexaMacHammer89: leave it as it is :P01:15
Hammer89okay :P01:16
Minataku!ohmy | rotterdmn01:16
uboturotterdmn: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.01:16
rotterdmnoops! sorry01:16
Hammer89I made the swap partition01:16
NexaMacdid you create both partitions Hammer89?01:16
NexaMacnext is the system01:16
NexaMacthis one is simpler01:16
rotterdmnhow do I re-install FireFox?01:16
NexaMaccreate new partition, name it /, make it 5-6 GB since vista probably takes a fair share of whats left to function01:17
rotterdmnis acting weirdy01:17
rotterdmnI mean isn't even starting :(01:17
wesleyi have configere yesterday a very old systemn with xubuntu i did take 4 gb / and 3 /home and 512 swap01:17
Hammer89I still have 13653MB of unallocated space... vista isn;t using it...01:17
Minatakurotterdmn: Make sure it's not already running01:17
NexaMacthen be bold enough Hammer89 to make the / 8gb01:17
wesley13 gb is so full if you download01:17
NexaMaci can almost guarantee you that without a few gig free windows is gonna be slow as hell01:18
Hammer89only 8GB?01:18
NexaMacwesley: using the windisks is a fine way of getting around it :)01:18
NexaMacHammer89: yes01:18
Hammer89I thought 10 was recommended...01:18
NexaMaci recommend it, but seeing as youre dual booting i wouldnt do 10 with so little space left01:18
NexaMacwesley: dual booting vista and ubuntu01:18
wesleymauw kubuntu is enough01:19
NexaMac<--- osx + kubuntu <301:19
MinatakuEw. OSX.01:19
MinatakuEW! MAC!01:19
* Minataku shudders01:19
rotterdmnMinataku: no, it isn't running01:19
wesleyokay but i did had a vista on it but deleted it and now stuck with a big ntsf01:20
Hammer89so make an 8192MB partition?01:20
MinatakuSorry. I can't stand Apple.01:20
NexaMacMinataku: rather osx then windows tbh :P01:20
rotterdmnhow do I re-install01:20
MinatakuI don't know.01:20
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NexaMaci need my blizzard games <301:20
NexaMacyou wont catch me buying an ipod or an iphone tho :o01:20
MinatakuAt least there's that.01:21
rotterdmnhow do I re-install?01:21
Hammer89NexaMac: make an 8192mb partition?01:21
wesleyi call of duty 3XD but call of duty 4 takes many gamers away from 301:21
NexaMacMinataku: i cant stand any apple product besides osx01:21
NexaMacHammer89:  yar01:21
Hammer89NexaMac: and type "/" in the mount point box?01:22
NexaMacMinataku: ipod locking your mp3's to one computer, forcing you to use itunes etc is just plain nazisim01:22
rotterdmnhow do I re-install?01:22
NexaMacnazisisim or whatever01:22
MinatakuI can't stand any Apple products but the ones they've disowned01:22
NexaMacHammer89: you got it01:22
Hammer89**is ready to screw windows**01:22
thomas_newbie__NickPresta: I don't know whats wrong :(01:22
MinatakuBy order of Steve Jobs, Furher of Apple01:22
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wesleyhow can i check a windows ntfs for errors in kubuntu01:22
thomas_newbie__NickPresta: this is correct: DocumentRoot /home/myusername/public_html/01:23
Greeneryrotterdmn: try checking for firefox in ksysguard01:23
MinatakuThat dick fired the Happy Mac01:23
Greeneryif its still there kill it01:23
JohnFluxwesley: check ntfs-tools maybe01:23
Hammer89NexaMac: what next?01:23
NexaMacclick install :P01:23
wesleythere almost no documentation01:23
Hammer89oh :P01:23
MinatakuSo, as a computer collector, I've vowed to give the poor, unemployed Happy Mac a good home01:24
rotterdmnGreenery: I've checked it in TOP wasn't there, and it was working fine earlier01:24
rotterdmnnow I am forced to use CLOSE SOURCE opera01:24
NexaMacive got a question there01:25
NexaMacim no guru tbh01:25
NexaMachow can i find a programs signal without using top?01:25
Greeneryrotterdmn: purge firefox and install it back i guess01:25
MinatakuSignals are sent to a process01:25
MinatakuNot recieved from one.01:25
NexaMacwhen i kill a process01:25
Hammer89I pressed back by accident :P01:25
NexaMachow can i find the PID (?) without having to read through top? :p01:26
NexaMacHammer89: are you sure youre ready? ;p01:26
MinatakuNexaMac: I use ps for that01:26
MinatakuSpecifically, ps -AF f01:26
Hammer89NexaMac: I'm still a little confused about why I need to leave so much space totally unallocated...01:27
NexaMacthanks Minataku01:27
MinatakuNexaMac: No problem.01:27
Jay-Oh-Enhow do i change my screen resolution01:27
Hammer89NexaMac: I have 2 partitions... and then the unallocated space01:27
Minataku!resolution | Jay-Oh-En01:27
ubotuJay-Oh-En: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:27
NexaMacHammer89: simply because the last time i used windows for anything other then a "safe fallback for gaming" it required free space to run01:27
MinatakuThere used to be an !xrandr, but some ass deleted it01:27
Hammer89NexaMac: there wasn't any free space before, though?01:28
NexaMacif your windrive has free space on it, screw what i said and just use the free space01:28
sfearsanyone know how i can disable "common unix printing services cupsd" from booting.. it's causing startup to freeze?01:28
NexaMacMinataku: you need to teach the bot ctrl+alt+backspace :<01:28
Minataku!rc | sfears01:28
ubotusfears: Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents01:28
MinatakuThat's... completely f*cking wrong01:28
sfearsalready upgraded01:29
ardchoille!guidelines | Minataku01:29
ubotuMinataku: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines01:29
ubotuTo make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot01:29
Hammer89NexaMac: what are we defining as "free space"?01:29
NexaMacHammer89: okok put it this way01:29
NexaMacwait a sec01:29
Minatakuardchoille: Look. F*ck you. Okay? F*ck you. I'm trying to help here, and the dumbass bot has completely stupid facts.01:29
ubotuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/01:29
MinatakuTry that. Maybe.01:29
MinatakuI don't even know if there's anything remotely useful in this crappy bot anymore.01:30
ubotuTo make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot01:30
wesleychkdsk how can i install that?01:30
NexaMacHammer89: the disk windows is on, how much free space is on it?01:30
NexaMacin total01:30
sfearsanyone know where i can get some more help on startup problems?01:30
Hammer89NexaMac: I'm not entirely sure... maybe 10-20GB?01:31
Hammer89NexaMac: the partition program in linux is saying that the free space for my win partition is "unknown"01:32
NexaMacso you have free space in addition to whats free on the windows disk?01:32
Hammer89I have _unallocated_ space01:32
Hammer89meaning... nothing is using it01:33
NexaMacYOU managed to confuse ME :p01:33
NexaMaccreate the swap01:33
Hammer89how large again?01:33
NexaMacif its 2gb ram, make the swap 2048, then make a / with the remaining unallocated space01:33
sfearsHammer89, depending on the partition utility you use.. sometimes you can only have 4 partitions.. if there is unused space after the 4 logical partitions are created you can't do anything with the remaining space01:33
rotterdmnwhy openoffice isn't opening m$$$$$$$$$$ .doc files?01:33
rotterdmnsomebody wants to get rid of my hardworking installation only because the damn .doc files01:34
rotterdmnplease help01:34
Greenerytry google docs?01:34
Hammer89NexaMac: should I use ext3?01:35
NexaMacjust leave everything i dont told you to change as it is by default :p01:35
Hammer89maybe I've confused you again and your instructions will screw my system up?01:36
NexaMacmy smartass brother told me years ago, if you dont know what it is, dont fucking mess with it01:36
rotterdmnGreenery: .doc is a m$ file format not google01:36
rotterdmnfor your info01:36
Hammer89that's why I ask people ;)01:36
rotterdmnexpanding knowledge01:36
Greeneryrotterdmn: maybe google docs support some ms docs01:37
Hammer89is it a problem that the migration assistant doesn't pick up vista?01:37
ubuntuhi. im not coming off a new install or upgrade or anything, i dont remember what i did. but the last time i restarted my computer it wouldnt boot up properly. it goes past the grub then instead of getting my login screen i get a terminal-like screen and it says "BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7) built-in shell (ash)" then it drops down and instead of my username it says "(initramfs)" in a terminal style prompt. i have limited commands01:37
ubuntuwhile in this, but i can tell that i am on my main partition because im able to cd through folders. i looked around the internet and the most common responce was to remove "quiet splash" and add "all_generic_ide" to the thing in the grub (pressing escape then e for edit and b to boot it up) but that didnt work for me. a few sites i looked at also suggested just messing with "noacpi, nodma, noapic, and nolapic" i tried each one of those, with01:37
ubuntuand without the "quiet splash" there and none of it worked. What is this problem, and how can i fix it? Thanks in advance for the help.01:37
Hammer89NexaMac: it'll pick the right partition by default?01:38
NexaMacwhat will?01:38
Hammer89the installation thing...01:38
NexaMacsimply, create a new partition, swap, same amount as your ram, click ok, then create a / with the remaining space, click ok, click install and wait 10 mins fo rthe install to finish :p01:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rmvb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:39
NexaMacyeah just tag the "format" if its not ticked and highlight it to be sure01:39
Hammer89next step isn;t installation... it's the migration assistant01:39
Hammer89which still isn't picking up vista :P01:39
NexaMacand just enter your name, comp name, password and login name01:40
phoenixzHola hgomez01:40
hgomezHola phoenixz01:40
Hammer89NexaMac: the migration assistant isn't giving me anything01:40
NexaMacHammer89: please dont tell me you cant fill it in manually?01:40
Hammer89NexaMac: on the migration assistant page it's all blanked out... :P01:40
NexaMaccan you NOT use the migration assisstant somehow?01:41
hgomezphoenixz, see ya later!01:41
NexaMacmmmm 20 minutes until my wow server goes down01:41
Hammer89NexaMac: it says "there were no users or operating systems suitable for importing from" (arguably true... win vista...)01:41
NexaMacinc mario galaxies01:41
phoenixzIm trying to access a windows fileshare with konqueror with smb:// but every time I do something it keeps asking me for the password.. How can I make konqueror remember the password?01:42
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NexaMacHammer89: last time i installed ubuntu (last night) i had a choice to NOT use the migration assistant01:42
NexaMacyou dont?01:42
Hammer89I can click forward and see what it gives me next......01:42
NexaMacphoenixz: add it to the keychain? :x01:42
Hammer89there aren't *any* options on the migration assistant page, though01:43
Hammer89other than back and forward01:43
NexaMacthen forward for the win01:43
Hammer89the "who are you" page01:43
phoenixzNexaMac, keychain? how? where?01:43
NexaMac"im me, who the f*** are you to ask?"01:43
NexaMacphoenixz: i honestly have no clue, im used to gnome :<01:44
NexaMaccheck the forums01:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about keychain - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:44
Hammer89NexaMac: alrighty... all filled out01:44
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »01:44
NexaMacthen next and next and go for a smoke or something :D01:44
Hammer89NexaMac: again though... my only concern is that the bootloader will *not* pick up my vista installation01:44
NexaMacif it doesnt well manually fix that as well01:45
Hammer89on the "ready to install" page... under the advanced button there are options for the bootloader... anything I should mess with there?01:46
NexaMacwhy ask me when your answers are as good? :D01:47
Hammer89The partition tables of the following devices are changed:01:48
Hammer89 SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda)01:48
Hammer89The following partitions are going to be formatted:01:48
Hammer89 partition #3 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) as swap01:48
Hammer89 partition #4 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) as ext301:48
NexaMacif you need help through basics, you dont touch advanced :P01:48
Hammer89that all good?01:48
Hammer89I was just gonna do guided :P01:48
Hammer89wouldn't be a better idea to go back and start from guided, would it? :P01:49
NexaMacjust hit install allready :P01:49
Hammer89alright :P01:49
Hammer89where's your address so I can kill you if it messes up?01:50
NexaMacnorway ;o01:50
NexaMacill just firewall you01:50
NexaMaccan of axe and a lighter <301:50
Hammer89my bro's gf is from norway ;)01:50
NexaMacis she hot?01:50
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!01:50
phoenixzIs there a program that can show microsoft visio files?01:50
sfearsanyone know how to edit boot up paramaters?01:51
NexaMacurgh fine, Hammer89 spam into the channel :p01:51
sub[t]rnlphoenixz➜ kivio01:51
sub[t]rnlsfears➜ /boot/grub/menu.lst01:52
sfearspast grub01:53
sfearsit gets about half way thru boot & locks up while loading printing services01:53
sfearsbut i don't really use printing on my laptop.. so i was wondering if i could turn it off01:53
thomas_newbie__NickPresta: you there?01:54
phoenixzsub[t]rnl, thanks lots! :)01:54
NickPrestathomas_newbie__, yep, sorry about that. Did you change permissions on your public_html folder01:55
ubun1tuhi. im not coming off a new install or upgrade or anything, i dont remember what i did. but the last time i restarted my computer it wouldnt boot up properly. it goes past the grub then instead of getting my login screen i get a terminal-like screen and it says "BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7) built-in shell (ash)" then it drops down and instead of my username it says "(initramfs)" in a terminal style prompt. i have limited commands01:55
ubun1tuwhile in this, but i can tell that i am on my main partition because im able to cd through folders. i looked around the internet and the most common responce was to remove "quiet splash" and add "all_generic_ide" to the thing in the grub (pressing escape then e for edit and b to boot it up) but that didnt work for me. a few sites i looked at also suggested just messing with "noacpi, nodma, noapic, and nolapic" i tried each one of those, with01:55
ubun1tuand without the "quiet splash" there and none of it worked. What is this problem, and how can i fix it? Thanks in advance for the help.01:55
thomas_newbie__NickPresta: nick don't you have to have the subfolder of public_html set permissions aswell?01:55
phoenixzsub[t]rnl, And I can use it to view visio files?01:56
NickPrestathomas_newbie__, no, you shouldn't have to. If you're trying to view yoursite.com/index.html, your document root needs to be chmod'd to 755. index.html can be set to read rwxr--r-- :)01:57
sfearsubun1tu, mabey a video driver problem.. when you get to a shell prompt try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and set it up with vesa drivers.. all the other options are pretty self explanitory.. resolution 800x600 or 1024x76801:57
ubun1tusfears: i cant get to a shell prompt01:58
sfearsyou said you could cd thru folders01:58
sfearsthat's a prompt01:58
ubun1tueven though its got the {initramfs) infront of it?01:58
sfearsi'm not sure what that is01:59
ubun1tuwell ill try that01:59
sub[t]rnlsfears➜ seagate harddrive?02:01
NexaMacHammer89: are you still alive?02:01
sfearsummm.. i don't think so02:01
Hammer89NexaMac: lemme check...02:02
NexaMacHammer89: done with the installation yet? :p02:02
thomas_newbie__NickPresta: i don't know02:03
sfearswhy do you ask sub[t]rnl02:04
NexaMaclo terran400002:04
NexaMacdone with the painting?02:04
terran4000I decided my cat could use a new coat.02:04
NickPrestathomas_newbie__, can you pastebin your config file again?02:04
terran4000Plus, painting in tomorrow, today is 'setup' day <sigh>02:05
ubuntuwho was it that told me to do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure?02:06
Hammer89NexaMac: Finis'02:06
sfearsi think that was me ubuntu02:06
ubuntusfears: ya, i didnt think i was able to do that02:06
ubuntuits not a full featured prompt02:06
sfearsgot cha02:06
ubuntui have VERY VERY limited commands02:06
NexaMacHammer89: reboot and let me know if you can see both vista and ubuntu at the grub02:07
ubuntusudo isnt even a command02:07
ardchoilleubuntu: Sounds like you might be in busybox02:07
ubuntuthats what it seems like02:07
ubuntucause thats what the thing says at the start02:07
ubuntulike its opening it02:07
ubuntuhow do i get out of it?02:07
ubuntui tried "quit, stop, exit"02:07
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ubuntuardchoille: how can i close it?02:13
Hammer89NexaMac: WTH did you do to my computer??02:14
NexaMacdid you see vista on grub? :P02:15
ardchoilleubuntu: I"m not sure, I've never worked with busybox02:15
Hammer89yes Ma'am02:15
NexaMacthank god02:15
NexaMachaving to guide YOU through the boot.lst would be a pain in the ass ;)02:15
NexaMacnext up, video drivers then02:15
NexaMacwhats your video card?02:15
Hammer89I'm not that bad, actually... just mortified of messing my system up a few days before the semester begins :P02:15
Hammer89oh... that shouldn't be any problem for me... I've installed Ubuntu before... just not dual-boot :P02:16
NexaMacwhat kind of video card? :P02:16
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Hammer89ATI Radeon 200m02:16
Hammer89already got the drivers installing02:16
NexaMacgood luck02:17
NexaMacYOU can help ME with that later02:17
Hammer89why do you say that?02:17
NexaMaci never managed to get those damn driver to work02:17
terran4000ATI drivers?02:17
NexaMacHP Pavillion laptop?02:18
Hammer89Toshiba Satellite02:18
NexaMac200M or 200M XPRESS?02:18
Hammer89XPRESS I think02:18
NexaMacare you using a script or a .run file?02:18
Hammer89Imma gonna restart now... maybe see if I can get compiz-fusion working02:18
Schuenemannwhat do I need to install in order to play rmvb?02:18
NexaMacdid you install the drivers through terminal? or did you open a file that installed them for you?02:19
Hammer89I used the restricted drivers manager...02:19
NexaMachaha :D02:19
NexaMacmine doesnt work :<02:19
Hammer89bummer for you :D02:19
NexaMacmy typical luck02:19
NexaMacyeah :P02:19
GleipnirAutomatix2 is good for things like that.02:19
jacobhow do i install the wireless driver02:22
jacobfrom a windows xp driver02:22
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:22
* Dr_willis thinks automatix2 is Poo. :)02:22
terran4000jacob: You can use ndiswrapper02:23
Schuenemannwhat do I need to install in order to play rmvb?02:23
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:23
ubotuautomatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »02:23
terran4000Pish posh, automatix is good enuf.02:24
NickPrestado not use automatix. Use restricted manager02:24
SchuenemannDr_willis, isn't there w32codecs anymore?02:24
Dr_willisSchuenemann,  there is one at the medibuntu repos I belive02:25
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org02:25
SchuenemannDr_willis, required?02:25
Dr_willisDepends on what you are doing. :)02:25
ubotuThe Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu »), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages02:25
SchuenemannDr_willis, I want rmvb02:25
Dr_willislook at the medibuntu reposiutiory then. they may have it.  Check that url - it may have details.  I dont mess with rmvb in years02:26
Lazarushi there02:26
Dr_willisI dont know if the w32codecs include support for rmvb or not02:26
Lazarushow would i password my boot grub?02:26
Schuenemannmess? I just want to watch02:26
Dr_willisLazarus,  grub has that feature. Check the grub docs at its homepage.02:27
LazarusDr_willis, okee dokee02:27
thomas_newbie__NickPresta: u there? i pasted02:29
xoqahow do you get compiz to work on kubuntu?02:30
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion02:30
xoqain particular.. I MUST HAVE THIS THEME: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Quite+Minimal?content=7215602:30
Hammer89NexaMac: still here?02:30
xoqathanks Dr_willis02:31
NexaMacHammer89: aye02:31
Hammer89NexaMac: somethin' strange happened02:31
NexaMacdo go on sir02:31
Hammer89NexaMac: it wont boot into Ubuntu anymore... the screen goes black... and stays that way02:32
Hammer89NexaMac: I'm on Vista now02:32
NexaMacthen sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:32
NexaMacchose vesa as your driver02:32
Darktan_ok, anyone know how to make Never Winter Nights work? I installed it through wine, run it through wine, spalash scteen coes up, then nothing02:35
Darktan_splash screen comes up*02:35
Darktan_God my typing sucks02:35
terran4000Darktan_: there is a native linux version of NWN02:35
Darktan_accoring to the readme it's only for DM server02:35
Dr_willisi tried to get NWN working under linux once.. egads.. it was a nightmare. :)02:36
terran4000Nope, there is a client.02:36
Dr_willisThere is a client for it. Chekc the NWN homepage./02:36
terran4000Aye, it's on their site02:36
Dr_willisi also seem to recall some fancy song and dance to get it going right.02:36
* Darktan_ fired ye olde Konqueror02:36
Dr_willisproblem with binary onlyu games.. -  the disrtos upgrade.. and eventually break the old games.02:36
Hammer89NexaMac: lol... it worked on it's own 3rd try :P02:36
NexaMacsounds fishy02:37
Hammer89NexaMac: weird thing is... the loading screen isn't coming up02:37
Hammer89NexaMac: with the progress bar02:37
NexaMacawesome :p02:38
NexaMacyou messed up somewhere x)02:38
NexaMacat grub do you have several choices like 386?02:38
jacobI just reinstalled and updated. My question is when updating it asked if I wanted to replace a config with the new installed one or to keep the current, should I have kept the current or went with the new installed one?02:38
Hammer89NexaMac: *I* messed up? All I did was install it... and the first time I booted it it didn't show the progress bar :P02:38
jacobit was for libqt4 I think02:39
Darktan_hmm, i have gold, looks fairly easy02:39
Hammer89I had several choices... memcheck... and safemode... or something02:39
Darktan_gonna try it02:39
NexaMacoh yeah02:39
NexaMacopen a temrinal and do sudo aptitude update02:39
NexaMacthen sudo aptitude upgrade02:39
NexaMacwhy not?02:41
Hammer89I can't think of any reason not to... other than "don't fix what ain't broke"02:41
GleipnirPersonal opinion but I find that apt gives one more flexibility.02:41
Darktan_hmmm....is there a way to find a process and terminate it? task manager type thing maybe?02:41
Gleipniror ps -ef | grep <process name>02:42
Darktan_well, NWN is appearently running somewhere in wine and i can't uninstall it untill it stop working02:42
GleipnirNot arguing, don't mistake my meaning, just wondering why you suggest aptitude.02:42
ubuntuDoes anyone have any experiance with BusyBox?02:43
Hammer89when I go to enable visual effects, it returns this error: "The Composite extension is not available"02:43
NexaMacDarktan_: kill wine02:43
NexaMacHammer89: its cause youre running vesa and havent set up xorg.conf properly et02:43
Darktan_in terminal or run command?02:43
NexaMaci WONT help you with ati drivers cause i never managed to get my own working02:43
NexaMacnvidia ftw02:43
NexaMacDarktan_: terminal02:43
Hammer89I never ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure-etc,etc02:44
NexaMacyour video card is properly set up?02:44
Hammer89the driver installed...02:44
NexaMacthen you should edit the xorg.conf02:44
NexaMaci had to add AddARGBGLXVisuals "true" or something, but thats nvidia, not sure about ati02:44
NexaMacforums knows tho :/02:44
NexaMaci can find it out02:45
thomas-newbie__NickPresta: lol i lagged out or something and now I can't log in with my registered id02:46
NexaMacHammer89: http://pastebin.com/m63f36f9702:47
NexaMacadd it to xorg.conf02:47
NexaMacjust not the 1. 2. 3. etc02:47
Hammer89where can I find xorg.conf? :P02:47
NexaMacheh.. /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:48
NexaMacsudo gedit it or something02:48
NexaMacoh yeah, regular ubuntu aye?02:48
NickPrestathomas-newbie__, heh. That sucks. You can ghost your nickname. type: "/msg nickserv ghost" for help02:48
NexaMacthen alt+F2 and type "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"02:49
Hammer89I opened it with nano from the terminal... there's nothing in it though?02:49
NexaMacyou spelled it wrong then02:49
NexaMaccapitol X11?02:49
NexaMacwell with and empty xorg.conf your xserver doesnt work02:49
NexaMacwith an*02:50
Hammer89but why is it empty...? :P02:50
frank__how do I activate nvidia drivers ?02:50
NexaMacey, dont ask me :P02:50
NexaMacyou made a backup earlier didnt you?02:50
frank__and compiz as well02:50
Hammer89a backup...?02:50
NexaMacfrank__: what card?02:50
NexaMacno wait, that wasnt you02:50
frank__and compiz as well02:51
Hammer89I got it02:51
Hammer89it's not empty :P02:51
NexaMacthank f*ck02:51
Hammer89where do I add the text?02:51
NexaMacat the sections :P02:51
limacwhy can't i open googleearth?02:52
NexaMacgood question02:52
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limacit loading the app but then nothing is happening02:52
frank__so where do I activate them?02:53
NexaMacfrank__: heres the guide i used, it should work.. http://ubuntusoftware.info/beryl.html#nvidia02:53
NexaMacgoogle for envy drivers installer or something02:53
NexaMacmight solve it faster02:53
NexaMacunless your name is Hammer89 im not doing your googling for you :P02:54
Hammer89I added that text, btw02:55
NexaMacnow sudo reboot and try effects again :P02:55
terran4000limac: I had/have the same problem. My guess it's an ATI driver problem assuming you have an ati card. If not, then I have no clue at all.02:56
limaci have an intel card02:56
terran4000Are you running a x64 system?02:57
frank__is there a way to do them in gui?02:57
frank__drivers I mean02:58
terran4000frank__: have you tried 'Envy'? It does a lot of the work for ya02:58
* terran4000 thinks if it actually was called "Envy"02:59
frank__No What is it?02:59
Hammer89still not working02:59
Hammer89"The Composite extension is not available"02:59
NexaMacTHAT problem i got around03:00
NexaMacbut i cant recall how exactly03:01
NexaMacyou should try the www.ubuntuforums.org03:01
Hammer89I heard something about xgl with ati cards03:01
NexaMacunless anyone else in here like terran4000 *cough* has the answer03:01
JucatoHammer89: have you enabled Composite in your xorg.conf?03:02
Hammer89I'll check03:02
Gleipnirdo you have compiz installed? and enabled it in xorg.conf?03:02
Hammer89isn't it installed by default on Ubuntu?03:02
ubuntuhi. im not coming off a new install or upgrade or anything, i dont remember what i did. but the last time i restarted my computer it wouldnt boot up properly. it goes past the grub then instead of getting my login screen i get a terminal-like screen and it says "BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7) built-in shell (ash)" then it drops down and instead of my username it says "(initramfs)" in a terminal style prompt. i have limited commands03:02
ubuntuwhile in this, but i can tell that i am on my main partition because im able to cd through folders. i looked around the internet and the most common responce was to remove "quiet splash" and add "all_generic_ide" to the thing in the grub (pressing escape then e for edit and b to boot it up) but that didnt work for me. a few sites i looked at also suggested just messing with "noacpi, nodma, noapic, and nolapic" i tried each one of those, with03:02
ubuntuand without the "quiet splash" there and none of it worked. What is this problem, and how can i fix it? Thanks in advance for the help.03:02
NexaMacHammer89: it is03:02
JucatoHammer89: on Ubuntu, it is. you can confirm with #ubuntu03:03
terran4000NexaMac:  What now about answers?03:03
* terran4000 shakes fist.03:03
ubotuenvy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »03:03
Gleipnirubuntu it sounds like you're in a rescue shell.03:03
frank__Resticted Manager ?03:03
ubuntuGleipnir: i have no clue what it is, and its bugging me. how can i get out of it?03:03
Gleipniris it a fresh install?03:04
NexaMacterran4000: compiz +ati :P03:04
Jucatofrank__: yes. System Settings -> Advanced tab -> Restricted Manager03:04
terran4000frank__: they say Envy isn't supported .. meh. To hell with em, worked everytime I used it: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html03:04
terran4000NexaMac: Ah, to whom should I explain it to?03:04
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/03:04
Hammer89*raises hand*03:04
NexaMacterran4000: Hammer89 please :)03:04
NickPrestaterran4000, frank__, exactly. Envy or automatix isn't supported. If it borks your system, we cannot help you :)03:05
frank__I do not have System Settings03:05
NexaMaccomposite problem03:05
frank__just system03:05
Jucatofrank__: Kubuntu?03:05
Jucatofrank__: it's in K Menu -> System Settings, just above (or below) Find or Help03:05
terran4000NickPresta, Jucato: I know I know. But until linux/kubuntu/whatever can make it 'easy' to enable and configure drivers ... why not.03:06
Jucatoit's not a separate menu, but an app. (you can also run it with Alt+F2, "systemsettings"03:06
Hammer89this is the end of my xorg.conf file... after editing it based on what I was told to do: http://pastebin.com/m24f3914303:06
terran4000Hammer89: ok. I'll give it a looksee03:06
GleipnirTerran, use what works.03:06
GleipnirIt's a question of what people are willing to help you with.03:06
JucatoHammer89: you have repeated Extension Composite entries... both of which are set to disabled :)03:06
Hammer89I saw that... and scratched my head :P03:06
NexaMacHammer89: i gotta hand it to you, giving out info like that, makes you hell of a lot easier to help then most people :<03:07
GleipnirPersonally I use automatix2. But I do Admin for a living, so borking my box is generally a fairly quick fix.03:07
Hammer89was that the only thing wrong with it?03:07
terran4000Hammer89: Alright ...03:07
NexaMacnow, someone help me get compiz working on Kubuntu with a "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)" seeing as im too lazy to google for my own purpose03:07
JucatoHammer89: try removing the section with Composite 0, then the one with Composite Disable set to Enable03:08
terran4000Hammer89: You want compiz correct? Do you have 1 or 2 monitors connected?03:08
GleipnirNexa, you may just be my favorite person ever for that...03:08
JucatoNexaMac: have you tried asking in #compiz-fusion03:08
Hammer89Jucato: I already deleted the one that was set to "disable" and changed the one set to "0" to 103:08
Jucatomight be more compiz users there than here03:08
frank__Ok I gtot it03:08
Hammer89terran4000: 1... I'm on my laptop03:08
JucatoHammer89: hm.. ok...03:08
frank__How do I activate the compiz thing?03:09
NexaMacGleipnir: for what? :x03:09
terran4000Hammer89: One thing that you WILL have to do if you want compiz is to get the newest drivers from ATI.03:09
terran4000Hammer89: kubuntu's repos don't have the newest available ones, which just happen to have gotten compiz functionality03:09
Gleipnirthe pure slackerdom of that statement.03:09
Hammer89terran4000: I installed them just a little while ago from the restricted drivers manager.... I'm running ubuntu03:09
NexaMacGleipnir: haha03:10
terran4000You'll also want to remove lines 4 - 14 from that pastebin03:10
terran4000Hammer89: yeah, restricted manager thingy doesn't have THE newest ones03:10
NexaMacGleipnir: gimme a break, i google all day long for lazy asses to help them, is it too much to ask one question without googling myself? :<03:10
terran4000It has the newest ones that are tested good and true.03:10
Hammer89terran4000: Ah.... delete lines 4-14?03:10
terran4000Hammer89: after you get the new drivers :-)03:10
Gleipnirnonononno I do much the same, not to worry.03:10
GleipnirI Identify. ;)03:11
NexaMacwill you google it for me? ;o03:11
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GleipnirAbsosmeggin'loutly not.03:11
frank__I do not see it in the menu as in ubuntu03:11
NexaMachere i am trying to get used to KDE so i can help out with KDE specific problems.. but noooo03:11
Hammer89terran4000: I'm not seeing my card on their site...03:11
Gleipnirkde is simple.03:12
Hammer89terran4000: wait... I think I found it03:12
Gleipnirespecially with how kubuntu puts it out.03:12
terran4000NexaMac: if you want compiz with intel drivers ... try compiz-fusion and using xglx (or whatever it was called)03:12
NexaMacGleipnir: ubuntuforums got 0 results, halp plox03:12
Gleipniraiglx you mean?03:12
NexaMacterran4000: cheers :p03:12
terran4000Aiglx ... I thought that was ATI only???03:12
terran4000Could be wrong of course03:12
NexaMacyou know what?03:13
NexaMacive got 12 hours until work starts03:13
terran4000There were 3 basic 'modes': 'normal', glx and aiglx  (or so)03:13
NexaMaci bet i can beat mario galaxies THEN fix compiz03:13
Hammer89terran4000: I'm not sure they have a driver for my card03:13
NexaMacGleipnir: thanks :P03:13
Hammer89terran4000: they have one for the Radeon Xpress 200... but not 200m03:14
NexaMacHammer89: quick question, did you check ATI's homepage?03:14
terran4000Hammer89: bollucks03:14
NexaMaccause they sure as hell had 200m drivers the last time i checked03:14
GleipnirTerran4000: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIGLX03:14
NexaMaci just couldnt get them to work properly03:14
Hammer89NexaMac: not seeing them for linux.... maybe you were trying to install a win driver? :P03:14
terran4000Gleipnir: oo, nifty. Thanks for the update.03:14
NexaMacHammer89: if i was, then i mustve been sleeping :o03:15
NexaMaclink me and ill check it03:15
GleipnirYuo're mocking me aren't you?03:15
terran4000Hammer89: if there is no driver for your card, then the repository "ati" driver's support compiz I believe (or at least from what I've read)03:15
NexaMacHammer89: http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html03:16
NexaMactry them03:16
Gleipnirit should be fglrx.03:16
NexaMacpretty sure those work03:16
Gleipnirunless it's changed.03:16
Hammer89NexaMac: thing is... windows has a driver for the 200M...03:16
terran4000I don't think I've seen the 200m on the fglrx list, hmm ... lets go find out ^_^03:17
GleipnirI quit using ATI long ago due to it's bastardly lack of support.03:17
NexaMacHammer89: aye, but 200 should be ok03:17
GleipnirHammer, thats wrong thnking.03:17
NexaMacif not, a quick google search for them could give you interesting results03:17
Hammer89terran4000: I asked once on the compiz-fusion channel and they said the 200m should run compiz flawlessly03:17
NexaMacalso theres the forums which Gleipnir so kindly ripped apart for me03:17
terran4000well, the 200m will ... depends on the driver.03:18
GleipnirAt your service.03:18
Hammer89Gleipnir: what do you mean?03:18
GleipnirWell, compiling a c based driver for win32 and compiling a c based driver for Linux are VERY different propositions.03:18
BluesKajterran4000, Gleipnir, the ati default restricted driver for gutsy that actually works is the 8.37 , provides DRI and 3D , to some degree03:19
Gleipnirright, but it's crap.03:19
BluesKajfor the X200 series03:19
Hammer89**is getting lost**03:19
Gleipnirdon't believe me? fire up glxgears. ;)03:19
GleipnirSorry hammer.03:19
GleipnirOk, basically Linux has a driver for ATI03:19
terran4000BluesKaj: It isn't until 8.4x that composite is supported though03:20
terran4000Which is what we're after03:20
NexaMacthe glxgears03:20
GleipnirYou need to find out which driver it is.03:20
NexaMacare they supposed to go really really fast03:20
NexaMacor is the fact that their moving steadily a good sign?03:20
BluesKajthe 8.43 driver doesn't do squat on my x200G03:20
Gleipnirif glxinfo doesn't have your gpu info... whoopsies.03:20
ubuntuGleipnir: sorry i just saw your message. no its not a fresh install03:20
GleipnirUbuntu: have you tried startx?03:21
Gleipnirsteady isn't bad./03:21
NexaMacGleipnir: wont work if hes where i think he is03:21
ubuntuthats not a command03:21
BluesKajwell, try the fgl_glxgears test with the 8.43 and see what happens03:21
Hammer89terran4000: was I supposed to be doing something? :P03:21
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NexaMacyou know the restore thingy?03:21
Gleipnirubuntu, I think you're boned.03:21
NexaMacnot an xserver, not a proper boot03:21
ubuntu1is there nothing i can do03:21
NexaMacreinstall :P03:21
Gleipnirtry dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:21
thomas_newbie__i'm trying to set a static lan ip address. I went to network settings  and tried to change it manually but it doesn't change after applying changes03:21
ubuntu1Gleipnir: i cant03:22
terran4000Hammer89: haha, not yet. just some idle chit-chat ^^03:22
NexaMacthomas_newbie__: man ifconfig03:22
Hammer89terran4000: alrighty03:22
ubuntu1Gleipnir: i dont have full terminal commands, i have just a small handfull of them03:22
NexaMacbest answer i can give at least03:22
Gleipniryeah, you're in a rescue shell.03:22
NexaMacits the bluescreen of linux? ;o03:22
terran4000Hammer89: you have a x64 bit system?03:22
Hammer8932 bit03:22
ubuntu1how can i get out of this rescue shell?03:23
ubuntu1there has to be a way03:23
Gleipnirubuntu rescue shells are tricky, what did you do to get into it?03:23
Gleipnirmodify something recently?03:23
ubuntu1thats the thing03:23
ubuntu1i dont know03:23
GleipnirAre you accidentally booted from a cd?03:23
ubuntu1i dont remember doing anything that could cause damage03:23
ubuntu1im on a live cd now03:23
thomas_newbie__NexaMac: i want to do it using the GUI03:23
Gleipniryou have a limited shell on the livecd/03:24
terran4000Hammer89: my recommendation would be to try "Envy", though many people here would highly disagree with me.03:24
NexaMacthomas_newbie__: then i cant answer you :p maybe someone else can if you just wait it out, everyones busy ;o03:24
Gleipniror on the system from disk?03:24
Hammer89terran4000: what is it?03:24
terran4000Hammer89: other than that, you can try getting the drivers from here: http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html03:24
Hammer89terran4000: and why would so many disagree? :P03:24
NexaMacterran4000:  i know i would, never worked for me :<03:24
ubuntu1Gleipnir: no, on the live cd im fine03:24
terran4000Point ;-)03:24
ubuntu1u have a full shell03:24
ubuntu1only a partial on the actual HD03:24
BluesKajerr , sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ,,need permission to edit the file03:25
terran4000Hammer89: Envy is a perl script someone wrote to 'help' people install the "bleeding edge" drivers for ATI and NV03:25
ubotuenvy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »03:25
Gleipnirshhhh maybe they won't notice!03:25
terran4000For some it works (like me) for other it's not03:25
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:25
Hammer89I installed drivers already... from the Restricted Drivers Manager...03:26
terran4000Yes yes, but like I said, the "Restricted Drivers Manager" doesn't have THE newest drivers available from ATI03:26
NexaMacBluesKaj: you COULD try sudo su before reconfigureing, but i highly recommend you dont03:26
Gleipnircat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep ati03:26
Hammer89terran4000: right03:26
NexaMacat least dont forget to logout afterwards03:26
terran4000Hammer89: thus, we have to get the newest drivers in there ourself without the restricted manager03:27
Hammer89terran4000: one other thing... I was supposed to delete lines 4-14 (in pastebin) in my xorg.conf, right?03:27
Hammer89terran4000: gotcha03:27
BluesKajNexaMac, I wouldn't anyway...I'm not the one needing to edit the xorg file03:27
GleipnirTerran, most of the prepacked drivers should work ok.03:28
terran4000Gleipnir: Not for composite03:29
GleipnirWell, at least the fglrx ones.03:29
NexaMacBluesKaj: well, if you know what youre doing you can just nano it03:29
Hammer89how do I install the driver from ATI's site?03:29
NexaMacyou dont03:29
richard_how do i install aircrack?03:29
NexaMacyou download them and install them from your HD ;o03:29
NexaMacyoure gonna hate me after a couple more hours Hammer8903:29
Gleipnirsudo apt-get install aircrack03:29
Hammer89NexaMac: that's what I meant, lol03:30
BluesKajterran4000, the newest drivers aren't necessarily working properly in gutsy on the lower end ATI Radeon onboards03:30
Hammer89NexaMac: already do, bro ;)03:30
NexaMacHammer89: ill grow on ya03:30
terran4000Gleipnir: the repo fglrx are 8.37? something like that? the newest are 8.43.03:30
terran4000BluesKaj: true true, I never said they were ^_^03:30
terran4000BluesKaj: But he wants compiz, so he'll get it ... possibly ;-)03:30
Hammer89so, people, what am I s'posed to do? :P03:30
GleipnirTerran, I admit, I'm not sure. I avoid ATI at the moment like the plague.03:30
terran4000Gleipnir: once I have the money for a new card same here!03:31
NexaMaci COULD help you Hammer89, but terran4000 is doing so well atm03:31
BluesKajcompiz ...bah humbug eyecandy :)03:31
GleipnirHammer, you have ati?03:31
NexaMacBluesKaj: humbug candy > no candy03:31
terran4000lol, but look at all the pretty wobbly windows ^_^03:31
Hammer89Gleipnir: yes03:31
Hammer89Gleipnir: Xpress 200m03:32
Gleipniryou're gonna bloody hate me m8.03:32
Hammer89should that work?03:32
GleipnirRemember, if you bork your ATI drivers, you can ctrl-alt-f2 to a shell, and modify your xorg.conf with vim or nano.03:33
terran4000If you want the newest drivers (and thus compiz) you'll have to go with the manual install03:33
ubuntu1so Gleipnir is there anything i can do?03:33
NexaMacallright got a really serious problem here guys03:34
GleipnirIf you do this... And you bugger your install, go back to Driver: VESA03:34
NexaMacmy room is a mess and i cant find a RL rm commad03:34
* terran4000 nods in agreement03:34
BluesKajafter trying the newest drivers , they have to be uninstalled previous to installing the default restricted one03:34
Gleipnirnah, Nexa, you want sort -u /dev/room03:34
richard_how to install aircrack03:34
NexaMacGleipnir: more like rm /dev/room03:34
Hammer89terran4000: manual install... meaning?03:35
richard_tryed that doesnt work03:35
Gleipnirfailing that get the src pkg and install it.03:35
Gleipnirtgz or tar.gz03:35
terran4000Assuming you have Gutsy03:35
NexaMacrichard_: it worked here03:35
Hammer89terran4000: I have Gutsy, thanks03:35
terran4000Good luck03:36
GleipnirNexa, you need a place to sleep.03:36
NexaMacno time03:36
Gleipnirsort is better.03:36
NexaMacill oversleep for work then03:36
NexaMaccant risk it03:36
NexaMacso RM is a better choice03:36
NexaMaccan sleep at work come to think of it03:36
terran4000With that, I must be off to move random boxes to a slightly less annoying part of the house.03:36
terran4000Cya'll later.03:36
NexaMacglhf :P03:36
NexaMacman i hate my neighbour03:37
GleipnirThe term is "BOXEN" thanks.03:37
richard_ok then how do i run aircrack....03:37
NexaMaches been sniffing my router, and im too lazy to change the PW or encryption03:37
NexaMacrichard_: what the hell man :P03:38
Gleipnirwhat did you DL?03:38
GleipnirAre you actually trying to hack WEP?03:38
GleipnirOr what?03:38
NexaMacGleipnir: "im boxen"?03:38
NexaMacgot some boxen to do ò_O03:38
Gleipnirboxen is the plural of box.03:38
richard_yeah but im a total noob :)03:38
GleipnirOk look.03:39
GleipnirWhat's your connection like?03:39
NexaMacplease be 56k please be 56k03:39
richard_dl at about 200k03:39
Gleipnirpull down this:03:39
NexaMacbefore you go on Gleipnir, how do you think the OP's will react to you teaching kiddos to hack WEP? :x03:40
NexaMacor rather crack wep03:40
GleipnirFair enough03:40
NexaMactell him to google, or what to google, but dont act like your a talking manual03:40
GleipnirRichard, I assume this is your OWN WEP considering you already have a hardline to your current box?03:40
NexaMacNOW were on the right track03:41
GleipnirAnd you are ONLY TESTING YOUR OWN NETWORK?03:41
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins03:41
GleipnirAnd it is legal to Posess, and USE network security tools in your country?03:42
GleipnirAnd that you will use those tools in accordince with common law?03:42
NexaMacrichard_: if youre one of the annoying asshats in MY neighbour hood using MY internet connection that I pay for, im gonna have to either hunt you or Gleipnir down :<03:42
richard_i wont dont worry : )03:43
Gleipnirright then, bases covered. Google backtrack and have a good time with it. Great NETWORK SECURITY CHECKING PROGRAMS.03:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pure - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:43
NexaMaci gotta say, i love your approach Gleipnir, youre worse then blizzard copyright agreements when it comes to keeping the crowd waiting :P03:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pureftpd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:44
GleipnirBetter to be safe than buggered sir/madam.03:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pure-ftpd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:44
NickPresta!search pureftp | Gleipnir03:45
ubotuFound: ftpd, wink, sources.list-#ubuntu-effects, editors, keys-#ubuntu-effects, brokenkde4, xubuntu-channels, fluxbuntu, girl, xubuntu03:45
NexaMacrichard_: if youre really into it, and willing to do time in the slammer (knowing that a lot of countries punish you pretty harshly for wep cracking) head over to youtube and look up "wep sniffing"03:45
ubotupurekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »03:45
NickPrestaGleipnir, nope, not in Gutsy, apparently.03:45
Gleipnirnot at all.03:45
Gleipnirsokay, questionable at best.03:45
NexaMacback to compiz problems03:46
thomas_newbie__I have a lan setup at my home with 3 computers. I want to make sure that my router doesn not assign new ip's to each computer when restarted so I can port forward to my computer to reach my server. How do I keep my LAN ip static??03:46
NexaMacafter that, one of you smartasses can assist me in getting my wii to use a proper resolution :<03:46
GleipnirThomas, use static IP's03:46
terran4000I came back at a weird moment ...03:46
NexaMacthomas_newbie__: disable DHCP in your router?03:46
terran4000NexaMac: Just go to the wii setup menu >_>03:46
terran4000And afk again ^_^03:47
thomas_newbie__NexaMac: do I need DHCP???03:47
NexaMacterran4000: doesnt beat the bash quote where this guy came in right afte rthe sentence "i shook my coca cola can", and the first thing he saw was something like "now i got it all over, it exploded in my hand and my damn keyboard is sticky"03:47
NexaMacthomas_newbie__: no you DONT need DHCP03:47
NexaMacterran4000: wii menu didnt want to corporate03:47
NexaMacits MS all over again03:47
NexaMaci swear03:47
thomas_newbie__NexaMac: why do I have it ???03:48
Gleipnirbecause it's easy.03:48
NexaMacat least i get a good laugh03:48
thomas_newbie__NexaMac: and can't I keep DHCP and just configure through Kunubuntu or windows XP for it to stick to a particular address like
NexaMacthomas_newbie__: whats your standard gateway?03:48
NexaMacwell i guess you can03:48
NexaMachold on ill check my router03:48
Gleipnirit's dhcp or static03:49
thomas_newbie__i see03:49
NexaMacyes you can keep DHCP on your router03:49
NexaMactrue story Gleipnir03:49
NexaMacbut then you have to assign each and every computer a static IP03:49
NexaMacor they will all end up using the same IP :/03:50
NexaMacat least thats what happened here03:50
thomas_newbie__k no problem03:50
thomas_newbie__i wanna start by changing this ip :S03:50
BluesKajnite all, sacktime here03:50
GleipnirNexa, you're makin' me head hurtl.03:50
NexaMacand with 7 computers in the house it was more work then joy03:50
NexaMacGleipnir: seriously, DHCP is enabled on my router, but it fucks up from time to time, so if he wants it that way, i aint stopping him03:50
GleipnirAre a sadist.03:51
thomas_newbie__NexaMac: what do you mean fucks up from time to time?03:51
GleipnirAnd I am missing my pizza.03:51
ardchoille!language | NexaMac03:51
ubotuNexaMac: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.03:51
NexaMacthomas_newbie__: well, every time someone connects, it resets IP's03:51
thomas_newbie__someone connects what you mean03:51
NexaMacNickPresta: topic had nothing to do with it, if you mind the language, i appologize03:51
Gleipniryeah, thats a problem. ;)03:51
NexaMacits 5am.. i forget :<03:51
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.03:52
Gleipnirsweet kittens, really?03:52
NexaMacyou know03:52
NexaMaci could save myself a lot of time installing linux on the remaining 4 computers03:52
NexaMacsince IM not using them, i could just say "their broken lolol, no chance of redeeming"03:52
NexaMacwould never have to lift a finger again :D03:52
NexaMacwhaaat? :<03:53
thomas_newbie__NexaMac: hey I didn't get it...why does it reset ip's? someone connects, who?03:53
GleipnirThose boxen should be running debian.03:53
* dthacker pokes NexaMac with a security update03:53
* Gleipnir highfives dthacker03:53
* NexaMac drops "Security holes, the entire collection" - book nr.4 on dthacker's foot03:54
NexaMacwindows security holes*03:54
dthackerouch! Hey, the thick book is the Windows book!03:54
NexaMacthomas_newbie__: because DHCP is enabled :>03:54
NexaMacif youre not using it, disable/uninstall it03:54
NexaMacdisable DHCP in your router, seriously, then try setting a static ip03:55
NexaMacdont you dare Gleipnir03:55
thomas_newbie__NexaMac: but what would be the benefits/needs of using DHCP in my network03:55
NexaMacautomatic IP >_>03:55
NexaMacas in NOT static03:55
thomas_newbie__as in DYNAMIC03:55
Gleipnirquick cancer break nexa.03:55
wolfman2323have anyone seen juan carlos??03:56
NexaMacif youre gonna correct me, i can point you in the direction of google.com thomas_newbie__03:56
GleipnirThere aren't really.03:56
Gleipnirjust simplicity03:56
NexaMacim not getting paid to pretend to help you03:56
thomas_newbie__NexaMac: i wasn't correcting yo uwas I03:56
thomas_newbie__NexaMac: lol man03:56
GleipnirStatic IP's are a PITA upfront, but work fine.03:56
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.03:56
NexaMacsee that Gleipnir?03:57
thomas_newbie__NexaMac: chill....it wasn't correction I was asking you if thats a true statement aswell lol03:57
GleipnirSet those up and you're squeare.03:57
NexaMacno shortened forms plox03:57
NexaMacthomas_newbie__: to chill id have to get upset first03:57
NexaMacaint happening at 5am :<03:57
GleipnirThat's just not fair.03:57
thomas_newbie__NexaMac: sorry for offending you buddy, thx for help03:57
NexaMacive been here for what.. 5 hours now, planning on setting up compiz on this comp, so far ive accomplished to help people >_>03:57
NexaMacthomas_newbie__: i wasnt offended o_O03:58
NexaMacat least pay attention :p03:58
GleipnirYou've done a public service.03:58
NexaMacin other words, accomplishied nothing? :P03:58
thomas_newbie__so I have to connect to my routers ip and disable it there right and then change it in kubuntu settings?03:58
GleipnirNow quit being bitter.03:58
NexaMacwell i never03:58
NexaMacgive it a try thomas_newbie__03:58
thomas_newbie__i'm scared HERE I GO!03:59
Gleipnirback in a jiffy.03:59
NexaMackeep in mind your router will most liekly restart immeadeatly tho :p03:59
NexaMacsecond time i hear that sentence in my life03:59
NexaMacfirst was simpsons03:59
NexaMacgrampa simpsons "ill be BACK in a jiffyyyy"03:59
thomas_newbie__I assume that something is wrong with my router cause my internet connection is constantly restarting :S especially annoying when playingn games03:59
Gleipnirdid it end with : "Captain spiffy"?03:59
NexaMacGleipnir: that one was toooo dry04:00
NexaMacthomas_newbie__: my guess is youve got a shitty ISP :P04:00
NexaMacunless its like all the time04:00
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.04:00
NexaMacit tends to happen when im NOT here, getting me banned from most of the IRC channels for excess flooding :<04:00
thomas_newbie__huh thats not bad language04:00
NexaMacGleipnir: its on!04:00
NexaMacthomas_newbie__: sh itty is04:00
thomas_newbie__we should OHMY Gleipnir04:01
NexaMacso if your computers name is itty, you can SH it04:01
GleipnirI'm just bitter because my pizza isn't here.04:01
thomas_newbie__lol ok here i'm gonna try this manuveur04:01
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NexaMac /dodge04:01
NexaMacif it doesnt work, highlight Gleipnir04:01
NexaMacim trying to set up compiz x)04:01
Gleipnirhey now....04:02
NexaMacyou know what i really miss the most about gnome?04:02
|Quest|anyone happen to know how to passively decrypt ssl packets from a mitm?04:03
GleipnirYou know you can install that under kde right?04:03
NexaMacits tertis fi youre too lazy to google04:03
NexaMacGleipnir: why would i want to?04:03
GleipnirQuest... that's only borderline legal04:03
Gleipnirnot th right place for it.04:03
NexaMacwheres the synaptics package manager in kubuntu?04:03
NexaMacno im not gonna google that04:04
NexaMacgoogle will tell me to go back to windows04:04
thomas_newbie__ok this is poop04:05
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto04:05
NexaMacyar i found it bazhang04:05
NexaMacthanks tho :P04:05
thomas_newbie__so now i disabled DHCP. I want to assign a new IP it won't change it...04:05
GleipnirUse apt-get04:06
NexaMacthomas_newbie__: you wouldve been done hours ago with terminal :P04:06
bazhangthomas_newbie__: you cant do that with dhcp normally04:06
NexaMacGleipnir: i forgot what i was looking for :|04:06
thomas_newbie__bazhang: what?04:06
thomas_newbie__bazhang: i disabled DHCP so I can assign a static LAN IP04:06
Lazarusdoes anyone know a text phonic reading program for linux?04:07
Hammer89w00t... compiz is alivee!04:07
bazhangthomas_newbie__: normally you need to get your isp to give you a true static IP04:07
GleipnirThomas: set your router for static04:07
Gleipnirand then setup your box for static.04:07
Gleipnirshould be 192.168.*.* for linksys.04:08
NexaMacHammer89: grats :D04:08
Lazarusas in something that would read any given text file in an automatic manner04:08
Lazarusive heard of something like it before04:08
Lazarusphonetically, aloud04:08
NexaMacLazarus: losing your vision? :<04:08
thomas_newbie__Gleipnir: yes, i'm there...advanced routing --> static routing ---> then i have to assign subnet mask, gateway, IP04:09
LazarusNexaMac, heh, no04:09
NexaMaccant recall one, but search for phonetic in adept? :o04:09
Lazarusi just thought itd be cool to have stuff read to me while i multitask and do other things04:09
Lazarusan faq, a forum, an ebook04:09
NexaMacthomas_newbie__: ifconfig should give you all that info04:09
Lazarusi could get more info in at once04:09
Lazarusgame, do some syntax04:09
NexaMacLazarus: with todays standard in forums, you can forget all about phonetical :P04:10
NexaMacmy head fills up and empties04:10
NexaMacGleipnir: whats the command for the spinning wheels?04:10
GleipnirThomas: you want to create a subnet.04:10
GleipnirAKA glxgears.04:11
ubuntui have all my data (both the OS and my /home directory) on the same partition now, but somthing happened and now i cant boot up. could i possibly make like a 10gb partition for the OS, and then have a seprate partiton for my /home directory?04:11
Gleipnirof course.04:12
Gleipnirprovided you have 10 gigs free.04:12
ubuntuwould there be anyway to get rid of the OS on my current partition04:12
ubuntuso i dont have to burn 100gb of cds04:12
NexaMaci rememer when i was young, format c: fixed everything04:12
Gleipnirubuntu, is the disk full?04:13
NexaMacwe all gotta start somewhere!04:13
Dr_willisNexaMac,  of acccidently using warez from a dial up bbs.. fixed EVERYTHING and then some04:13
NexaMacfor me it was win 3.1104:13
ubuntui have 50gb04:13
NexaMacothello <304:13
NexaMacDr_willis: warez are overrated, gnometris ftw04:13
Gleipnirok, then open the box with ptparted or gparted.04:13
ubuntui know how to make partitions and such04:13
ubuntubut what im wondering is04:14
Gleipnirresize the partition, and set the new one to boot.04:14
ubuntuoh ok04:14
ubuntuwhat would i do about the current one thought?04:14
Gleipnirthen install an os onto it.04:14
ubuntusince i would just want my /home on there04:14
Gleipnirignore it for now.04:14
ubuntuand right now it has everything04:14
ubuntuhow would i remove kubuntu from it04:14
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion04:14
ubuntui couldnt just delete it all off of there could i?04:14
Gleipnirresize and create a clean bootable, Move everything over once you have that.04:14
ubuntui cant do that04:15
ubuntui have 100gb of data04:15
Gleipnirwhy not....?04:15
ubuntumusic, movies, etc04:15
ubuntuhow would i move that overt04:15
GleipnirYou don't have to.04:15
ubuntuwhat are you saying?04:15
NexaMacubuntu: leave the pr0n save the rest04:15
Gleipnirunless you want to make a new partition.04:15
ubuntuNexaMac: no pr0n, anime04:16
Gleipnirok, hang on. Sorry I'm not being clear.04:16
ubuntuGleipnir: no, the only new partition i want is for the OS04:16
Gleipnirmake a new partition.04:16
GleipnirSet it to bootable.04:16
Gleipnirboot that part.04:16
GleipnirAnd you're good.04:16
ubuntubut Kubuntu will still be on my current partition will my data04:17
Gleipnirthat should give you a fully working system.04:17
Dr_willisexternal usb hard drives.. are very handy04:17
ubuntuhow would i get rid of i04:17
Gleipnirright, so rm -rf everything but your ~04:17
Gleipnirer... /home/name.04:17
ubuntuoh, you CAN delete everything if your not booted to it?04:17
Gleipniryeah, it's all files.04:17
ubuntuas long as you have privlages04:17
ubuntui assume04:17
ubuntuthank you very much04:18
ubuntui was going to HATE04:18
Gleipnirmake sure it's not your / partition though.04:18
ubuntuburnign 100gb04:18
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ubuntuto CDs04:18
ubuntunot even DVDs04:18
ubuntusince this stupid dvd burner wont burn04:18
Gleipniryeah... no good.04:18
ubuntuwell im off to repartition04:18
Gleipnirnp m8.04:18
|Quest|anyone happen to know how to passively decrypt ssl packets from a mitm?04:19
GleipnirQUEST, that doesn't belong here.04:19
drifsomething wrong with this picture? using fairly modern pc (Athlon 2800+ with 1Gb RAM) and transferring files between two sata-drives achieves only 5MB/sec speeds...04:21
ardchoille|Quest|: Queries of a questionable legal nature are not welcome in this channel.04:21
|Quest|ardchoille ok04:21
GleipnirDrif, not bad, not great.04:22
drifGleipnir: not bad?04:22
Gleipnirmisread that sorry.04:22
Gleipnirdma on?04:23
Gleipnirhdparm -tT /dev/sd*04:23
NexaMacill brb testing compiz04:24
drifGleipnir: what does -tT exactly do?04:25
Gleipniropen konsole: type hdparm --help04:25
drifGleipnir: atleast on help page -t represents perform device read timings..04:25
drifGleipnir: that's why I asked04:26
Gleipnir -T   perform cache read timings04:26
Gleipnirhdparm /dev/sd* should give you basic information.04:27
drifGleipnir: I've though hdparm doesn't support sata that well - if at all04:28
GleipnirThat's because you're *supposed* to use sdparm04:28
Gleipnirwhich doesn't ship with ubuntu.04:29
knewuserAnyone got time for a wifi question?04:29
Gleipnirwhats up knew?04:29
terran4000What's up knewuser04:29
drifGleipnir: atleast it's provided on repository04:30
Gleipniryeah... there are a lot of things in the repos...04:30
knewuserI just migrated to kubuntu from PCLOS. Clean install on a gateway laptop. I've got three problems, the first of which is that the wifi card keeps freezing.04:30
drifGleipnir: why suggest hdparm in the first place?04:31
Gleipnirok, what kind of card?04:31
knewuserIt's been raised in the forums, but I've been unable to find a response.04:31
Gleipnirbecause it gives you information.04:31
terran4000knewuser: What do you mean "wifi card keeps freezing"?04:31
drifGleipnir: no dice with sdparm either04:32
Gleipnirno... sdparm has different options.04:32
GleipnirSATA is not SCSI04:33
knewuserterran400: when I activate the wireless network connection, the status bar hangs and nothing else can be done.04:33
terran4000Anyone know if konqueror does IRC?04:33
GleipnirNo matter how much the kernel devs want to think it is.04:33
drifGleipnir: [06:29] <Gleipnir> That's because you're *supposed* to use sdparm <- what was this then?04:33
Gleipnirsdparm is designed to handle scsi and sata(in a backhand manner)04:34
GleipnirSATA is more like IDE.04:34
drifGleipnir: and naturally I'm not using same options automatically - even -a doesn't work with sdparm "04:34
drif Additional sense: Invalid command operation code04:34
drifREQUEST SENSE failed04:34
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:35
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=== NexaMac is now known as Nexano
terran4000nexamac: how's the compiz04:36
Nexanonot working!04:36
Nexanoi hate that answer myself04:36
* terran4000 wobbles his window at you.04:36
Nexanoi enabled a lot of effects, did the standard ubuntu procedure, but nothing happens :/04:36
Gleipnirweird, I get info from my drive.04:36
Nexano /spit :P04:36
drifboth sda and sdb give same result04:37
Gleipnirno offense, but are you sure it's SATA?04:38
Gleipnir*/dev/hda maybe?04:38
drifGleipnir: crystal.04:39
drifGleipnir: installed both of'em just few weeks ago04:39
terran4000Nexano: you also did > compiz --replace04:39
Gleipnirwhat version of kubuntu are you using?04:40
drifGleipnir: me? 7.0404:40
Gleipnirthat MIGHT still be handling SATA as hda04:40
Gleipniror hd*04:41
drifGleipnir: I'm 100% sure those are sda and sdb04:41
GleipnirWell amigo, I may have to admit to you that despite my sysadminy goodness, I have no idea why neither of those are reporting drive info to you.04:42
terran4000knewuser: still around?04:43
knewuserTerran4000 Yep.04:43
knewuserIt's Realtek RTL 8185L04:44
knewuserWhenever I try to activate a wireless connection, it hangs at 28% and no other commands can be executed.04:44
drifGleipnir: ran those timings - cached reads A: 255.19MB/sec B: 209.53MB/sec, buffered A: 43.13MB/sec B: 40.86BM/sec04:44
knewuserThough it can see the wireless network, so *something* is working.04:44
Gleipnirdrif, should be higher than tha.04:45
terran4000knewuser: and my activate the wireless connection you mean by clicking on the knetwork manager and selecting your network right?04:45
Nexanoterran4000, Gleipnir: how do I activate compiz in KDE? :>04:46
terran4000Nexano: compiz --replace04:46
terran4000I think04:46
Nexanodidnt do the trick04:46
drifGleipnir: your results are?04:46
Nexanono wobly windows or spinning cube :<04:46
drifGleipnir: those are first generation sata-drives04:46
GleipnirTiming cached reads:   1282 MB in  2.00 seconds = 641.40 MB/sec04:47
Gleipnir Timing buffered disk reads:   86 MB in  3.38 seconds =  25.48 MB/sec04:47
terran4000Nexano: when you do > compiz --replace  on the command line, what is the output?04:47
knewuserTerran4000: For what it's worth, I have the laptop next to the wireless router and, while it registers the network, it lists the signal strength as -1.04:47
drifGleipnir: how come the buffered is much lower than mine?04:48
drifbut yes I can see the difference with cached results04:48
Gleipnirlaptop. :(04:48
Nexanoterran4000: terminal tells me XGL isnt present04:48
Nexanoknewuser: ndiswrapper?04:48
knewuserNexano: I've not installed it yet.04:49
Nexanoterran4000: http://pastebin.com/mc7395ab04:49
Nexanoknewuser: whats your network card?04:49
terran4000knewuser: hmm, new drivers using windows drivers and ndis 'might' do the trick04:49
drifGleipnir: could be something with chipset support as well..04:49
knewuserNexano: Realtek RTL 8185L04:50
Nexanonever touched :<04:50
Nexanocould try ndiswrapper tho, its always worked for me04:50
Nexanotho all my wireless are bcm04:50
knewuserTerran4000: Do you think I should give ndiswrapper a shot?04:50
Gleipnir shouldn't be.04:50
Gleipnirbut possibe.04:50
Gleipnirbugger all that's strange.04:51
terran4000knewuser: it might be worth a shot. I've also never had experience with any realtek stuff ... but new/different drivers are always worth a shot.04:51
Nexanoterran4000: did you check the pastebin?04:52
Nexanoany suggestions?04:52
drif Gleipnir: nforce204:52
terran4000You have a ati card right?04:52
terran4000the 200m?04:52
terran4000or was that someone else?04:52
Nexanothat was hammer8904:52
Gleipnirshould be ok though,04:52
Nexanowrong window04:53
Nexanointerl built in04:53
Nexanois my driver04:53
drifGleipnir: my usual luck, things work more smoothly hardware-wise on windows but I'd prefer using linux04:53
terran4000You 'can' try installing xserver-xgl04:53
Nexanotrying :P04:54
knewuserOh dear. This is problematic.04:54
GleipnirNow you've made it a challange.04:54
se7en_somebody know how i can keep a clean desktop? i have 3 external hdd always conected through a usb hub to my box and i don't like or need the desktop icons also i can't tell kubuntu to automaticly mount them04:54
terran4000Nexano: new I missed something on you're pastebin04:55
Nexanoblacklisted part? :<04:55
terran4000yeah ><04:55
Nexanowhat do i do about it? :p04:55
terran4000Hmm ... I forget where that file was ...04:55
terran4000give me a sec04:55
knewuserTrying to install ndiswrapper from adept, I get the message: There was an error committing changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."04:55
Nexanoknewuser: i got that as well, dont worry about it04:55
drifGleipnir: yes?04:55
Gleipnirhdparm -d1 /dev/sda04:56
thomas_newbie__hey guys your're still here ey04:56
Nexanodownload the drivers, find the .inf file, sudo ndiswrapper -i drivernametbh.inf04:56
Nexanosup thomas_newbie__?04:56
thomas_newbie__yea i'm not sure how to set up this static ip04:56
Nexanogood to see im not the only one having problems04:56
Nexanothomas_newbie__: willing to resort to terminal now?04:56
thomas_newbie__Nexano: sure wth....ifconfig04:56
drifGleipnir: tried that earlier - atleast the get function didn't return anything04:56
terran4000Nexano: okie okie ...04:56
Nexanothomas_newbie__: wireless or regular card?04:57
Nexanogo on terran4000 ;o04:57
thomas_newbie__Nexano: regular04:57
Gleipnirimproper ioctl?04:57
thomas_newbie__Nexano: btw i have 2 comps04:57
terran4000Nexano: 'this' might help, but it also might mess stuff up. Hope you know how to get to console and work from there just in case ...04:57
drifGleipnir: hm?04:57
Nexanowell get to that later04:57
captainzapcan someone help rescue me?04:57
Nexanoterran4000: aye04:57
terran4000captainzap: sure, one sec.04:57
Nexanothomas_newbie__: youll have to wait, im finally getting my compiz running :P04:57
Nexanoooor not!04:57
Gleipnir HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device04:57
terran4000Nexano: you know how to use vim?04:58
thomas_newbie__terran4000: EWWWWWWWWWWWwwwwwwwwwww04:58
Nexanoi know how to use it like i knew how to use notepad :>04:58
Gleipnirwhat do you need to know terran?04:58
drifGleipnir: no, like I said it returned nothing - just empty line followed with /dev/sda:04:58
Nexanowhat am i wiming and why cant i use gedit? :P04:58
GleipnirWhiskey Tango Foxtrot...?04:58
terran4000Gleipnir: I was simply asking Nexano is he knows how to ... if not gedit or so04:58
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ trying to setup a static ip?04:58
captainzapI used my computer yesterday...today I turned it on and it ran a file system check...says "Duplicate or Bad Block in use" and then hangs...help?04:58
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: yes sir04:58
Gleipnirvim == easy.04:59
knewuserNexano: Looks like it's a bigger problem. the graphical frontend for ndiswrapper pretends to open, but then nothing happens.04:59
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ look at /etc/network/interfaces04:59
terran4000Nexano: use sudo gedit /usr/bin/compiz04:59
sub[t]rnlyou can define static ip's in there04:59
Nexanoknewuser: dont use the graphical frontend04:59
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: ok, GUI --> network settings?????04:59
Nexanoterran4000: that did _NOTHING_ :p04:59
sub[t]rnlif you want to do it by !cli, then just edit the file located at /etc/network/interfaces04:59
terran4000>< just open up /usr/bin/compiz in something that can write to it (aka with root permissions)05:00
sub[t]rnlor by gui, yes, you can right click on the knetworkmanager icon in your system tray, go to manual configuration05:00
Nexanoterran4000: vim'ing05:00
Nexanowhat do i edit?05:00
sub[t]rnlselect the interface you are wanting static, then set the ip05:00
terran4000thomas_newbie__: what's wrong with vim?05:00
drifGleipnir: and yes, when trying to set dma instead of getting current status I get that ioctl-error05:00
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ system settings -> network settings -> same thing05:01
terran4000Nexano: about line 54, "WHITELIST= ............"05:01
Gleipnirit IS a bit daunting if you have no idea what you're doing.05:01
terran4000make sure "i810" is in there05:01
thomas_newbie__terran4000: we'll maybe because I can't use it fully but it's so primitive...don't listen to me05:01
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: funny thing in the config file05:01
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: it says its STATIC IP! the one i wanted05:01
terran4000thomas_newbie__: ... vim ... primative .... confused. but ok ^_^05:01
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ what config file05:02
Nexanoterran4000: WHITELIST="nvidia intel ati radeon i810"05:02
thomas_newbie__terran4000: just used to using kate or some GUI text editor thats all :S05:02
Nexanoterran4000: what do i do? P05:02
terran4000Nexano: woot. that part is good05:02
Gleipnirfeh vim != primative!05:02
terran4000Ok next is05:02
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: the interfaces text file05:03
terran4000thomas_newbie__: vim is very complex actually. To the point where back in college I programmed and compiled a whole programming language in it.05:03
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ do you see -> iface eth0 inet static05:03
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: yeaa i know....but its not GUI like05:03
terran4000Gui == slow.05:03
NexanoGUI text editing is overrated :<05:03
Nexanoterran4000: knowing its late and easy to forget stuff, should i find some PCI ID and remove it from blacklist?05:04
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: yes sir05:04
Gleipnirgui is fine, IDE is slow.05:04
terran4000Nexano: on line BLACKLIST_PCIIDS="$T"05:04
GleipnirEspcially since java came out.05:04
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ if its setup with your address, netmask, and gateway the way you like it, for the settings to take effect, you'll need to sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart05:04
Nexanogo on terran400005:04
terran4000Nexano: change that line to: BLACKLIST_PCIIDS=""05:04
thomas_newbie__yeaaa my quad core processor computer cant' handle a GUI text editor05:04
Nexanoterran4000: done05:05
terran4000restart X and enjoy (hopefully)05:05
drifthomas_newbie__: what are you using then?05:05
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: ty i think that is the solution i am looking for05:05
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: let me try05:05
Nexanothomas_newbie__: the fact that your computer can handle it, makes non-gui editors a waste? :<05:05
captainzapI used my computer yesterday...today I turned it on and it ran a file system check...says "Duplicate or Bad Block in use" and then is completley unresponsive...help pls?05:05
thomas_newbie__Nexano: omg i must stop this conversation because I know i will get flamed to death !!05:05
Nexanothomas_newbie__: no one is flaming ;(05:06
thomas_newbie__Nexano: lols05:06
Nexanojust asking your opinion so i can trash it :p05:06
Nexanoanyway, its getting sort of off topic05:06
sub[t]rnllets keep the channel for support only, general chatter can go to #kubuntu-offtopic05:06
Nexanowhats next terran4000? me moving your boxes? :<05:07
Nexanoah restart x05:07
Nexanoi failed to see it05:07
thomas_newbie__I WILL be back i am restart my supercomputer05:07
Gleipnirfsck -cc /dev/hda?05:07
Nexanoif not, terran4000 lock your doors and hide the kittens05:07
thomas_newbie__if not ...<3 you all05:07
terran4000Oh, you can have my cats.05:07
Nexanoallready got 2 >_>05:07
sub[t]rnlGleipnir➜ trying to manually fsck your drive?05:07
thomas_newbie__hold on me 205:08
thomas_newbie__i have 2 cats :)05:08
terran4000heh, go restart X already ;-)05:08
thomas_newbie__one mother and one son05:08
Gleipnirload a live cd.05:08
Gleipnirthen fsck your drive.05:08
thomas_newbie__lols yes sub[t]rnl05:08
captainzapwas the load a live cd fsck your drive for me?05:08
captainzapi'll try it05:09
sub[t]rnlGleipnir➜ no need to load a live cd just to fsck a drive.05:09
Gleipnirsorry, was trying to figure out who asked.05:09
Gleipnirwhen it's got the os on it it is.05:09
Nataku199how soon after 4.0 release will be get a hardy heron release?05:09
sub[t]rnltheres a -F option in the shutdown command to force a fsck on next boot05:09
Gleipnirfscking mounted drives == bad.05:09
=== Nexalol is now known as Nexano
sub[t]rnlyes, I know05:09
captainzapthe system tries to boot auto runs a check and then the "duplicate bad block" message05:10
captainzapthe only way to load it is through live cd?05:10
Gleipniryeah, on reboot works, but most don't like to do cli if they can avoid it.05:10
Gleipnirabut I agree.05:10
Nexanoterran4000: wont boot thanks a lot05:10
Nexanoj\k :p05:10
knewuserBad news with ndiswrapper.05:10
thomas_newbie__hallelujah Praise the Lord a little bit05:10
knewuserfollowing the instructions from here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3192605:11
terran4000Nexano: work at all?05:11
Nexanofinding out05:11
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: ty master it worked05:11
knewuserthe system freezes when I hit the sudo dhclient wlan0 command.05:11
Nexanomy damn rEFLT is slow :<05:11
Nexano!uhoh Nexano05:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about uhoh nexano - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:11
sub[t]rnlGleipnir➜ you can also sudo touch /forcefsck, then reboot normally05:11
sub[t]rnland it will fsck your drive on next boot05:11
terran4000oh, make sure you also install emerald05:11
Gleipnirhuh, that one's new to me05:12
sub[t]rnlanytime, (thats essentially what the sudo shutdown -rF now command does anyway)05:12
Nexanook new problem i just realised, my mac keyboard doesnt have a delete button..05:12
terran4000Nexano: Sorry, but I think only a bottle of vodka can solve that one.05:13
GleipnirThat makes sense, I like to do it via a livecd just so everything is "under my control"05:13
Nexanoaight so desktop effects work05:13
Nexanobut Konversation wont start terran4000 :p05:13
terran4000You're here aint ya.05:13
Nexanodesktop :)05:14
NexanoNexaMac is missing :<05:14
terran4000ah, tochue (sp?)05:14
knewusertouche, but you need a diacritic on the e.05:14
Nexanoi believe its touché05:14
terran4000knewuser: thanks. :-)05:14
terran4000Damn you people who know how to use your keyboards!05:15
terran4000Konv won't start now that eye candy works?05:15
terran4000That makes no sense05:15
Nexanowhy do i get a feeling theres always something not working properly? :p05:15
terran4000Speaking of which05:15
terran4000You might want to find and get: fusion-icon05:16
Nexanowhich is..?05:16
terran4000Really helps with switching between compiz and not-compiz without restarting X or killing anything. And it helps with some settings.05:16
sub[t]rnlan icon that runs emerald --replace, kwin --replace or compiz --replace05:16
terran4000And it sits in your taskbar for easy access.05:17
sub[t]rnland in your ram05:17
sub[t]rnllike a lazy bum05:17
knewuserOkay. Ndiswrapper is installed and loads at boot. going to knetworkmanager and telling it to connect...05:17
Nexanowell ill be damned05:18
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: do you think you can help me with a major problem i have been trying all night05:18
Nexanoreinstalling konversation didnt solve it either05:18
knewuserAnd it freezes.05:18
Nexanogimme another decent irc client05:18
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: it all started by configuring my apache2 server05:18
Nexanoknewuser: how exactly did you isntall the drivers using ndiswrapper?05:18
Nexanostep by step05:18
se7en_somebody know how i can keep a clean desktop? i have 3 external hdd always conected through a usb hub to my box and i don't like or need the desktop icons also i can't tell kubuntu to automaticly mount them05:18
knewuserI had the windows drivers in a file folder on a shared drive. I moved it to my home folder.05:19
thomas_newbie__whenever I connect to my apache server, it gives me that you don't have permission to access / on this server05:19
knewuserThen I followed these directions, step by step.05:19
Gleipnirthomas, your permissions are borked.05:19
knewuserIt froze at sudo dhclient wlan0.05:19
Gleipniror you have nothing on /05:20
terran4000se7en_: there is a way to dissable certain icons, give me a sec to look that up for ya05:20
knewuserThen, on restart, froze when I tried connnecting.05:20
Nexanoknewuser: wpa encryption?05:21
terran4000se7en_: If you open up Kmenu -> System Settings -> Desktop -> Behavior05:21
Nexanocan you try disabling the encryption and giving it another go?05:21
Nexanolol nevermind05:21
Nexanoim solving another problem here05:21
Nexanofreezing, i cant help you on :/05:21
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ not sure I see a problem yet05:21
terran4000se7en_: there is a tab there called "Device Icons", you can uncheck what you wish.05:21
knewuserOkay. Can anyone? It seems to be a common problem on the forums, but there's not much in the way of how to fix it.05:22
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: i cannot get an index page to load wehen connecting to my domain05:22
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ Put an index.html file inside of your /var/www folder and remove the apache2-default dir05:23
Gleipnirdo you have an index.html in / ?05:23
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: it has worked until the point where I took the default folder of /var/www and changed it to /home/myusername/public_html and put a page in there. When I connect to my domain.com/index.html it works only then05:24
Gleipnirdo you have your httpd.conf setup correctly?05:24
sub[t]rnlhttpd.conf is just the servername right05:25
Nexanoterran4000: what was the cmd for enabling\disbaling compiz again? :p05:25
terran4000knewuser: ok, this might not work and is probably just out of the air ... try disabling wireless encryption on the router and see if you can connect.05:25
Gleipnirno, it sets webroot as well.05:25
terran4000Nexano: compiz --replace05:25
terran4000and to undo that05:25
terran4000ctrl-c   .. if you did that in a terminal05:25
terran4000then > killall compiz05:26
terran4000should work05:26
terran4000wait no05:26
terran4000bad idea05:26
terran4000eh ... don't remember how to 'disable' it.05:26
terran4000I've just used fusion-icon or beryl before ... so they all had a on/off button05:27
thomas_newbie__Gleipnir: httpd.conf in the kubuntu version is empty05:27
sub[t]rnl!apache | thomas_newbie__05:27
ubotuthomas_newbie__: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)05:27
sub[t]rnlanswer is in that link05:27
thomas_newbie__if you say so05:28
bazhanghttp://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-lamp-server-installation-with-screenshots.html thomas_newbie__05:28
nexamac_the next time someone asks why konversation wont start, tell them to relogg >_>05:29
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ you need to set the DocumentRoot in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default (or whatever you called it)05:29
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: i already have05:30
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:30
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: this link you gave me is good05:30
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ I have apache2 running and thats how I set the DocumentRoot, works fine for me.  Follow those steps05:30
thomas_newbie__k i'll read on ty05:30
nexamac_terran4000: next, and hopefully last problem, why doesnt my cube have 4 sides? :<05:31
terran4000How many does it have?05:31
terran4000cool ..05:32
terran4000simple fix05:32
sub[t]rnlnexamac_➜ go into compiz config settings manager -> general -> desktop size05:32
terran4000yeah, what he said05:32
nexamac_nr. of desktops=405:32
sub[t]rnlfind horizontal virtual size, and up it05:32
terran4000Number of Desktops = 105:32
terran4000Horizontal Virtual size should be 4 (or whatever)05:33
nexamac_how do i open my bedroom door?05:33
* terran4000 lifts his tea mug in celebration05:33
terran4000sudo vim door_bedroom05:34
sub[t]rnlchange open=0 to open=105:34
sub[t]rnlsave and exit05:34
terran4000and don't foget chmod u+x05:34
Nexalolchanging screen saver blanked my screen05:35
Nexalolcant be good05:35
terran4000compiz aint perfect.05:35
nexamac_compiz is working05:38
nexamac_video card and wireless is working05:38
nexamac_audio time05:38
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: can you go to the site you gave me and go down to the part where it says "a2dissite" I don't understand what default is05:38
ThingusCan I batch resize a bunch of JPEGs with imagemagick?05:39
knewuserShould I be concerned that I can't install anything through adept?05:40
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ default is the default site in /etc/apache2/sites-available.  a2dissite disables it05:40
knewuserI keep gettng the same message, "There was an error committing changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."05:41
nexamac_knewuser: its perfectly normal05:41
nexamac_knewuser: try sudo apt-get instead05:41
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: yea ok so do I have to specify the entire pathname? and also what is the mysite file?05:41
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: because basically what i'm doing is taking default file and editing it....05:41
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ the mysite file is an edited copy of the default... right..05:41
thomas_newbie__look up...05:41
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ not sure why the wiki takes you through all that,  not needed.  I didn't05:41
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ just edit DocumentRoot dir in default, or whatever site you have enabled05:42
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: yes that was done a long time ago :(05:42
knewuserJust sudo apt-get <name of package>?05:42
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ did you restart apache? so it takes hold?05:43
nexamac_knewuser: yes05:43
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: yea............05:43
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: it works when i do domain.com/index.html but gives me permissions error when i got domain.com05:43
knewuserI get the message, "Invalid operation"05:44
terran4000nexamac_: what's wrong this time?05:46
nexamac_terran4000: sound :P05:48
=== nexamac_ is now known as NexaMac
terran4000I'm guessing you mean there-lack-of sound?05:48
NexaMackinda amusing how i can help people solve this and that, but cant help myself solve the most basic crap :<05:48
NexaMacyarr, browsing ubuntuforums atm05:48
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: wanna see my config file05:52
mahasamootI've got a directory full of photos, which are marked +x, I want to put "chmod -R -x /home/media/photos" but the problem is the directories need the x, and when I read the man page I didn't see a way to treat directories diffrently05:55
mahasamootany ideas?05:55
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: you there?05:56
knewuserOh well. I'm going to give this another try at the next major release.05:56
NexaMacholy crap05:57
NexaMaclightning struck just outside05:58
se7encompiz used to work no problem but now i get   /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Another window manager is already running on screen: 005:58
terran4000hit anything fun?05:58
NexaMacthats me turning off the desktop and unplugging the laptop05:58
NexaMacno way am i getting close to the window :P05:58
terran4000se7en: what command are you running to start compiz?05:58
NexaMacdont mess with nature!05:58
se7encompiz --replace like always terran400005:59
terran4000maybe it's already running?05:59
lascari used gparted to create an ntfs partition to install xp on.  XP has since been installed, but i can't find GRUB and thus boot into linux.  Is it lost?  How can I reclaim it?06:01
terran4000lascar: best bet, boot from a live cd06:02
lascarterran4000: doing that right now.  Then what?06:03
farchordHey guys, I have a bit of a problem, and hope you guys can help. I have a monitor problem, the power supply on it is failing (I just dont wanna return it just yet). My point is, is there a way to change the X server's refresh rate from console in recovery mode? I went in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but my screen's section only has 'DPMS'...06:03
terran4000someone help me out here >_> what was that grub command? grub-install /dev/hda ?06:03
terran4000ah yes06:03
se7eni did system settings > desktop > dehavior > menu bar on top of the screen ... after that i lost emerald and cant start compiz anymore terran400006:04
terran4000lascar: grub-install /dev/WHATEVER06:04
farchordlascar: Do fdisk -l to list your partitions06:04
lascarand grub-install <linux partition>?06:05
terran4000se7en: ok ... quicky question, what do you see now? Just the standard KDE look?06:05
se7enyes plain kde no compiz06:06
farchordso no one knows how to change the refresh rate eh?06:06
terran4000se7en: open up a console window, then type compiz --replace into it and tell me/us the output06:06
farchordmmmm guess ima have to get myself another screen, THEN play with linux..... meh at least Winblows uses the right resolution and refresh rate...06:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lsr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:08
Lazarus!info lsr06:08
ubotulsr: The Linux Screen Reader for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.3-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 501 kB, installed size 2776 kB06:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about screader - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:08
Lazarus!info screader06:08
ubotuscreader: Screen reader using software or hardware speech synthesizer. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.8-5 (gutsy), package size 143 kB, installed size 372 kB06:08
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:09
Lazaruswould anyone here happen to know what software i can use in linux that works with screader?06:09
* farchord hands Ubotu a scolding hot coffee with two sugars. "That's how you like it, right?"06:09
terran4000se7en: a pastebin link would help :-)06:10
sub[t]rnlfarchord➜ you can specify a monitors refresh rate in /etc/X11/xorg.conf  example in Section "Monitor" I have HorizSync 30-70 and VertRefresh 50-16006:11
se7ensorry but as soon as i do compiz --replace i cant close or move windows anymore terran400006:11
sub[t]rnlse7en➜ sounds like you need the window decorator.  sudo apt-get install emerald06:11
se7ensub[t]rnl: i have emerald ... and it worked till 10 min ago06:12
farchordsub[t]rnl: if I want a very specific refresh rate, can I just use a single number?06:12
sigmabut compiz works with kwin as well06:12
sub[t]rnlse7en➜ emerald --replace06:12
sub[t]rnlfarchord➜ yes06:12
farchordCoolio thanks06:12
sigmanot 100% but still works none the less06:12
sub[t]rnlsigma➜ compiz replaces kwin.06:12
lascari'm getting an error message: "could not find device for /boot: not found or not a block device."06:13
sigmaok good point, but when i installed it i didnt use emerald, so what window decorator was it using?06:13
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: do you know why it gives permission denied to / when trying to open mysite.com????06:14
se7eni ll restart x06:14
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ yeah set the documentroot bro, should work.  Try #apache I could be missing something06:14
lascarterran4000:  i'm getting an error message: "could not find device for /boot: not found or not a block device."06:15
terran4000That's never fun.06:16
se7enterran4000: any idea06:16
terran4000All this talk of compiz made me break my own install on my laptop >_>.06:16
sub[t]rnlse7en➜ start compiz via compiz --replace06:16
terran4000Needs for clean install anyway ... anywho: first off ...06:16
terran4000lascar: that happens when you try to boot correct?06:17
lascarterran4000: no, when i tried grub-install06:17
se7ensub[t]rnl: if i do compiz --replace i get the error i just pastbined06:18
terran4000se7en: let me guess, you also lost all window decorations?06:18
terran4000lascar: ah ok ...06:18
terran4000lascar: there was some command I forgot to add06:18
terran4000um ..06:18
chris0626891Hello, is anyone here?06:19
terran4000I think it was > grub-install --root=/dev/WHERE-root-dir-is-mounted06:19
chris0626891Oh sweet people are here!06:19
chris0626891I have a quick question.06:19
terran4000No one here but us umbas06:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kmouth - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:19
terran4000And I have a quick answer: feed me06:19
* lascar remembers reading about that06:19
Lazarus!info kmouth06:19
ubotukmouth: a type-and-say KDE frontend for speech synthesizers. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 728 kB, installed size 1664 kB06:19
chris0626891If I do apt-get dist-upgrade now, will I get KDE 4?  (Even if there a little old?)  And I'll be able to upgrade to the full released KDE4.0 when it's released, correct?)06:19
Daisuke_Idoquestion.  what's the easiest way to migrate my OS to another drive?06:20
terran4000chris0626891: no, kde4 is still a seperate install ... at least last time I checked.06:20
Daisuke_Idothe one it's on is getting ready to keel over dead.06:20
Daisuke_Idoand i would prefer that not happen.06:20
chris0626891So theres no easy way to upgrade to 4.0...06:20
lascarterran4000: do you mean the partition where the directory is located?06:20
chris0626891Ungh, there doesn't happen to be a repo for KDE4 is there? :P06:20
terran4000The instructions are on the kubuntu website06:21
chris0626891Well right..06:21
chris0626891But If I do that06:21
chris0626891I would be stuck with an old KDE406:21
chris0626891I wouldn't have KDE4.0 when they release it..06:21
terran4000lascar: more or less yes06:21
chris0626891or would it be easy to upgrade to 4.0?06:21
Daisuke_Idochris0626891: you're better off waiting for the 4.0 release.06:22
chris0626891*cries*  I want KDE4 so badly!! =P06:22
sub[t]rnlor maybe even wait till the 4.1 release06:22
terran4000chris0626891: I tried it and didn't like it much. I'm sticking with a good ol simple UI. 4 is just a bit too out there for me right now06:22
chris0626891Do you know how long it will take for KDE4.0 to hit the repos here?06:22
Daisuke_Idowhile i don't want to start a potentially ugly flame war...  you're not missing much.06:22
terran4000KDE4 IS in the repos06:23
terran4000You just have to set it up06:23
chris0626891So I would be able to sudo-apt get update it later?06:23
terran4000one sec06:23
chris0626891sorry I misunderstood you earlier..06:23
Daisuke_Idokde 4.0 is NOT in the repos, it isn't released yet, however, chris0626891, you can install and then upgrade to 4.0 with an upgrade...  in theory at least06:23
sub[t]rnlits in the deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu gutsy main repo's06:23
Daisuke_Idounfortunately this isn't theory, this is linux :)06:23
chris0626891true =P06:24
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chris0626891But i wouldn't mind being a guinny pig.06:24
lazaruscould anyone point me in the right direction for a text to speech program?06:24
sub[t]rnl!info festival06:25
chris0626891Did they have the actual GUI all set in place for the RC2 release?06:25
ubotufestival: general multi-lingual speech synthesis system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.3-21ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 680 kB, installed size 2048 kB06:25
chris0626891Or have they upgraded the packages since then?06:25
chris0626891and also.. would I be upgrading to Hardy, or can I stay in Gutsy..06:25
chris0626891(I'm sorry I'm asking so many questions! =P )06:25
terran4000chris0626891: is all more or less works.06:26
terran4000You just have to download it, set it up and launch it06:26
terran4000*it all06:26
terran4000Pardon my grammar and spelling. The sleeping pills are starting to take effect.06:26
terran4000float? old school ... binary is the only way to go man06:27
* lascar is at an impasse06:27
chris0626891what do you mean "launch" it, simply go back to the kdm and select KDE4?06:27
chris0626891well I'll dive in and see if I can't figure it out..06:27
chris0626891Thanks for your help guys.06:27
chris0626891One quick question though.  Should I upgrade to Hardy before install KDE4-rc2?06:27
sigmait wont make a difference06:28
terran40001st question, probably yes, 2nd question: wouldn't make a difference06:28
sigmawho owns the arial font?06:29
terran4000no clue, but probably adobe06:29
sub[t]rnlyeah, adobe!06:29
sub[t]rnlthats what I meant06:29
sub[t]rnlThe typeface was designed in 1982 by Robin Nicholas and Patricia Saunders for Monotype Typography.06:30
sub[t]rnloff wiki06:30
sigmai thought microsoft owned it06:30
chris0626891They probably do =P06:30
sigmawell is using that mscorefonts package in the repo's legal?06:30
sub[t]rnlfont designers are creepy06:31
sub[t]rnltheres a whole cult of em06:31
Daisuke_Idosooo...  easy(ish) way to migrate the OS to another drive?06:32
sigmasome one ought to design some decent fonts for the linux interface. its always the first thing i change after an install06:32
sigmai dont think you can do that and if you could it prob wouldnt be recommended06:32
sigmajust backup and reinstall06:33
sub[t]rnlDaisuke_Ido➜ dd?06:33
Daisuke_Idoi'va already backed up, i would really prefer not reinstalling though06:33
Daisuke_Idosub[t]rnl: considered it.06:33
Daisuke_Idowouldn't the two have to not be mounted in order for that to work?06:33
sigmausually when you don't reinstall something conflicts and you have a neverending pack of problems to deal with06:34
Daisuke_Idoso livecd.06:34
Daisuke_Idosigma: this isn't windows.06:34
sub[t]rnlDaisuke_Ido➜ yeah, might be the best bet06:34
sigmagood point06:34
sub[t]rnl!info mondo06:35
ubotumondo: powerful disaster recovery suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.22-1 (gutsy), package size 404 kB, installed size 1144 kB06:35
sub[t]rnl!info mindi > sub[t]rnl06:35
Daisuke_Idohowever, i'm also considering doing a clean gutsy install, i've been upgrading since edgy.06:35
sigmaim always amazed at how later releases of linux get faster whilst the opposite is true for windows06:36
terran4000sigma: lol ... not always true. But true enough :-)06:37
sub[t]rnlwow, terran4000 confuses me06:37
terran4000I have that effect on people.06:37
sigmawell ok i only really noticed it between xp and vista, that was just disgraceful06:38
terran4000It also managed to get me 3 raises at my last job ^_^06:38
sub[t]rnlwindows blew it with vista06:38
sub[t]rnlbig time06:38
Daisuke_IdoWindows ME206:38
sub[t]rnlDaisuke_Ido➜ lol06:38
sub[t]rnl!hi | ubuntu06:38
ubotuubuntu: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!06:38
Daisuke_Idoit's a depressing thought, but that's about where they went with the release...06:38
sigmau got that right, its like they were trying to get everyone to buy a new computer06:39
rc-1Hi!  I just got a HDTV, and am trying to set my resolution to 1080p.  I think I configured my xorg.conf correctly but its not working, and defaulting to the resolution I used for my other monitor.  Please help, my xorg.conf is at http://pastebin.ca/847668.06:41
chris0626891Hmm ok06:42
chris0626891Everything APPERS to work fine.06:42
rc-1to me?//06:43
chris0626891With KDE4 RC206:43
chris0626891I believe they even updated the repos06:43
chris0626891since I don't believe they had the new login theme at KDE4RC206:43
rc-1also its at 51 hz06:43
rc-1not sixty like i want06:43
chris0626891Hmm none of these Widgets seem really... useful =P06:44
sub[t]rnlrc-1➜ lets see your /var/log/Xorg.0.log06:44
chris0626891KDE4 seems a lot more stable than I thought it was going to be. :P06:45
chris0626891Though.. for some odd reason, it seems like... It's features in customization are lacking a tiny bit =(06:46
chris0626891This will probably be fixeed in 4.1 though06:46
chris0626891*thinks to himself* Wonder how this will drain my battery.06:46
Myrth[home]hi, do i need to install any additional package to make kde4 usable? right now it's just a bar on the bottom that doesn't respond to any click and 3 entry right click context menu on backgorund..06:46
Daisuke_Idokde 3.0 wasn't a shining example of excellence06:46
Daisuke_Idoby this point, though, the 3.5 line is pretty nice06:46
chris0626891I just installed KDE4..06:46
chris0626891With the webpage..06:47
chris0626891Want me to give you the link?06:47
chris0626891I used those easy instructions06:47
chris0626891No "compiling" required06:47
Myrth[home]chris0626891: i followed this too06:47
Daisuke_Idoshame they're dropping 3.5 completely in favour of 406:47
Myrth[home]chris0626891: what functionality you have in there06:47
rc-1sub[t]rnl: hmm it says its at the right res now, but the sides and top/bot of the screen are cut off06:47
rc-1still want the log06:48
Myrth[home]Daisuke_Ido: i've read that they're going to continue 3.506:48
chris0626891I just noticed that too06:48
chris0626891It's cut off..06:48
sub[t]rnlrc-1➜ no it wont complain if its getting set now06:48
chris0626891Let me try changing my screen resolution06:48
rc-1ah thanks, what should i try then06:49
chris0626891Theres a "Screen Resize / Rotate" button...06:49
ubuntucan anyone help rescue me?06:49
chris0626891But.. it doesn't do anything when I cliced it =P06:49
rc-1chris0626891: on the tv or in kde control somewhere06:49
sub[t]rnlrc-1➜ well, my friend hard coded panels into the top and bottom to act as "buffers" and his works great.06:49
Myrth[home]is konqueror going to use webkit now?06:49
sub[t]rnlrc-1➜ not elegent, hacky, but it worked06:49
rc-1hurray i fixed it!06:50
ubuntuforgive the complete neophyte question but how do I run fsck on my hard drive from a live cd?06:50
sub[t]rnlrc-1➜ do tell06:50
chris0626891How rc-1?06:50
rc-1had to change my TV setting from PC to 1080p06:50
chris0626891The screen thing?06:50
rc-1thought the PC setting would work :)06:50
Q-collectiveMyrth[home]: Qt4.4 is going to ship with it, so I don't think there will be any escaping it06:50
chris0626891Does that fix the cut off?06:50
rc-1thanks for help06:50
chris0626891Rc-1 does this fix the "cut off" taskbar?06:50
chris0626891How do I do that?06:50
chris0626891What menu option did you go to?06:51
rc-11. set your res to whats in my xorg.conf, 2. restart X, 3. set your TV to 1080p instead of PC06:51
KevinAlaskaWould anyone know of a command line command that can fix apt-get and Adept install issues.  not sure what the issue is but I remember there was a command once upon a time I did use?06:51
rc-1i hit "format" on the remote06:51
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »06:51
rc-1you may have to go to menu or something06:51
chris0626891.... =(06:52
chris0626891I don't have any remote =P06:52
ubuntuforgive the complete neophyte question but how do I run fsck on my hard drive from a live cd?06:52
terran4000geh, so broke in WoW ..06:52
rc-1see if you can do it with the TV buttons06:52
rc-1look for menu06:52
terran4000ubuntu fsck /dev/hda06:52
rc-1aww man this looks so great now off to watch some ripped HDDVDS with my girl :)06:52
Myrth[home]Q-collective: i'm sorry for lagging, but is webkit opensource?06:53
rc-1chris0626891: if you need help still in a bit im everynothing@gmail.com06:53
ubuntuit is saying "06:54
ubuntufsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)06:54
ubuntue2fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)06:54
ubuntuCouldn't find ext2 superblock, trying backup blocks...06:54
ubuntufsck.ext2: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hda06:54
ubuntuThe superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext206:54
ubuntufilesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext206:54
ubuntufilesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock06:54
ubuntuis corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:06:54
ubuntu    e2fsck -b 8193 <device>06:54
Myrth[home]oh i see, i had deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu gutsy main06:54
juansorry, which is the spanish channel06:55
Myrth[home]do i need to remove my packages or upgrade would be fine after changing the source to new one?06:55
chris0626891I don't see any menu that allows me to do this rc-1 =(06:55
chris0626891Is there an xorg configuration I could change?06:55
nexamacaight, googling gets me nowhere :<06:55
nexamacIntel Corporation 82801H <---- no sound.06:55
Myrth[home]sorry it was deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tsimpson/ubuntu gutsy main06:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:55
terran4000geh ..06:55
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.06:56
nexamacterran4000: you busy? ;o06:56
terran4000de nada06:56
ubuntuI will be forever endebted to anyone that can help me sort this out. I have a paper on my computer due tomorrow that I really would like to reclaim06:56
Q-collectiveMyrth[home]: yes, it is opensource06:56
terran4000nexamac: only trying to make some gold in wow (and failing at it). What's up?06:56
nexamacill grind you the gold if you fix my sound06:56
Myrth[home]Q-collective: did it become recently? if not why khtml didn't benefit from it until now?06:56
lazarushow do you use something like festival?06:57
lazarusa text to speech program06:57
terran4000nexamac: ok, you know the usual questions ...06:57
nexamacIntel Corporation 82801H06:57
nexamactesting the speakers gives me no sound06:57
nexamacmixers are set according to the guides06:57
ubuntuwhat is a "bad magin number in super-block"?06:57
hammer_how do i explain linux that my sda7 root pertition is bigger, than 20GB?06:57
hammer_i've resized it06:58
terran4000nexamac: first question, if you (in command line) type: alsamixer06:58
terran4000What does it say for "Card: "?06:58
nexamacalways got terminal up06:58
nexamacalsamixer done06:58
nexamacHDA Intel06:59
terran4000good enough06:59
terran4000What's the Master level at?06:59
nexamacthat would be PCM?06:59
terran4000PCM != Master06:59
terran4000Two different controls06:59
Nexanowrong button :<07:00
Q-collectiveMyrth[home]: the two have a little history, you should read up on dot.kde.org for more about that. But in a nushell: Apple forked khtml a few years ago into webkit, Apple remained it opensource but was a lousy maintainer and projectleader, recently Apple recommitted itself to the opensource development, kde devs didn't trust them at first glans and there was a lot of discussion going on whether keeping khtml or switching to07:00
Q-collectivewebkit, now trolltech seems to have made the choice for them with the inclusion of webkit in Qt 4.4, so keeping khtml seperate is rather silly now and effords are made to merge the two codebases into one.07:00
terran4000Nexano: ok ... so what are the readings for Master and PCM?07:00
nexamacPCM says 100<>10007:01
nexamaccant find PCM! tho07:01
Myrth[home]Q-collective: thanks :)07:01
nexamac<Headphone> count? :<07:01
JucatoQ-collective: almost completely correct :)07:01
terran4000Not unless headphones/headphone-jack is where you plugged in the speakers07:01
nexamacbuilt in speakers ;)07:01
terran4000oh yeah ...07:02
Q-collectiveJucato: woot :p07:02
nexamacalso says 10007:02
terran4000ok, so you're using internal ones07:02
terran4000well like I said before, check Master07:02
nexamactheir all set to 100 :<07:02
Q-collectiveJucato: which part did I got wrong? :>07:02
chris0626891For some reason I don't have a home directory now =P07:02
JucatoQ-collective: except for the parts about "trolltech... made the decision for them" and the "keeping khtml separate is rather silly now" :)07:03
chris0626891But.. I remember there being a fix posted.. SOMEWHERE..07:03
nexamacchris0626891: good job :p07:03
chris0626891I just can't remember where...07:03
Q-collectiveJucato: why is that wrong?07:03
chris0626891Where do they store all of the KDE4 bugs / fixes?07:03
terran4000ok, new idea nexamac07:03
terran4000open up kmix07:03
nexamacshoot terran400007:03
KevinAlaskaHello ... sorry having odd connection to irc problems.... Any other commands someone might have to help me fix Adept and/or apt-get program?  the error reads "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages"  Any ideas?07:03
terran4000And then open the mixer window07:04
JucatoQ-collective: trolltech hasn't made the decision for KDE... in fact, it has only made the decision making even more complicated. and keeping khtml isn't silly, because khtml is used in a lot more places than just Konqueror... so to be able really replace it, QWebKit still needs a lot of work (for the KDE side of things)07:04
nexamacterran4000: and then? ;o07:04
Jucato(speaking of khtml as a kpart used in many places)07:05
jussi01KevinAlaska: sudo apt-get install -f07:05
Myrth[home]QWebKit? a fork of Webkit?07:05
terran4000just for fun, crank up every single slider to the top07:05
Q-collectiveJucato: I see07:05
terran4000and any green led thingy should be lit07:05
KevinAlaskathank you jussi01... I think that is the command I used once upon a time.. .cheers. :)07:05
terran4000All of this under the Output tab of course07:05
nexamacterran4000: done07:05
nexamactho PCM doesnt have a green LED07:05
terran4000I know07:06
JucatoMyrth[home]: a Port of WebKit to Qt07:06
terran4000ok, test some sound07:06
Jucatosorry, it's QtWebKit...07:06
terran4000like with amarok or xmms07:06
nexamacwill do07:06
jussi01KevinAlaska: :)07:06
Myrth[home]got it07:06
nexamacterran4000: its playing, but theres no sound :/07:07
terran4000stick it on repeat so it keeps playing07:07
truenthow are the main ubuntu repositories for kde4 'testing' packages?07:07
Myrth[home]hey, i switched from http://ppa.launchpad.net/tsimpson/ubuntu to http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu, do i need to remove kde4 and install new or upgrade is ok?07:07
truentor anyone recommend a repo for kde4?07:07
nexamacterran4000: don07:08
truentim a gnome guy but willing to try07:08
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stdinMyrth[home]: see the link to the guide in the topic07:08
terran4000nexamac: let me boot my laptop ...07:08
emmatiiaHays, has anyone else noticed problems with installing PHP5?07:08
terran4000my desktop is a bit tooo different >_>07:08
stdintruent: if you haven't installed it yet, you may want to wait a couple of days, 4.0.0 is out on the 11th07:09
Myrth[home]stdin: i'm there, but before there were different instructions involving manual editing configuration files. i wonder if they won't conflict07:09
emmatiiaI've tried to install PHP5 using package utility and apt, but I can't get anywhere07:09
nexamacmy desktop's ubuntu crashed, and im too lazy to fix it while working on this one, so for the past 2 days or so ive been having windows xp on a 32" in monitor just above my laptop07:09
nexamacquite confusing07:09
stdinMyrth[home]: don't worry, just follow the instructions there, everything else is taken care of for you :)07:09
emmatiiaBoth ways it tells me that the package is corrupted or the hash is wrong07:09
truentstdin, i cant get some 'release candidate' type package from somewhere that will most likely be about as good as the real thing.. and beat the rush? ;p07:10
stdinemmatiia: try doing "sudo apt-get update" first07:10
terran4000nexamac: bad question on my part07:10
emmatiiadone that already, as Konsole suggested :/07:10
Myrth[home]stdin: thanks07:10
terran4000nexamac: above "Master" (still in the output tab), is there a green led above master?07:11
stdintruent: the link in the topic has that, yes. just follow the guide there07:11
nexamacterran4000: :>07:11
Jucatotruent: the difference between the last release candidate (rc2) and the final release is quite big... so...07:11
truentheh k07:11
stdinJucato: don't forget there's svn755919 in there too07:11
terran4000nexamac: click it and and make sure it's a bright green, not a dull one.07:11
Jucatooh yeah... PPA's.. pfft07:12
stdinmost RC2 packages are in gutsy-backports, but who uses those :P07:12
nexamacterran4000:  done07:12
terran4000Master at 100%, PCM at 100% and green light 'on' above master and still no sound?07:13
nexamacany output you want?07:13
* terran4000 scratches head.07:13
terran4000if all the slides in Output are up, and all green leds are 'on' ...07:14
terran4000time to think of a new approuch07:14
nexamacin the KMix configure, what should Volume Values be set to?07:14
nexamacthere is ONE thing that crossed my mine07:15
nexamacseeing as its a laptop07:15
nexamacyou know the fn+Fxx to adjust speaker volume?07:15
Myrth[home]hm.. when i try running xterm in Xephyr :2 - AUDIT: Tue Jan  8 23:14:38 2008: 29164 Xephyr: client 1 rejected from local host (uid 1000)07:15
nexamaci cant use those as its a mac keyboard and i havent set them up as i have to clue how to..07:15
nexamacthink that could cause a problem?07:15
nexamacmy fn key simply doesnt do jack sh*t :>07:16
terran4000_geh, sorry. comp froze07:16
terran4000_Did I ever mention I hate ATI?07:16
Myrth[home]nm, found the answer on the web07:17
nexamacterran4000_: fn+Fxx to adjust volume on laptops07:17
nexamaci havent set them up as its a macbook and i simply have no clue how to07:17
nexamaccould it cause a problem?07:17
terran4000_nexamac: usually software controlled ...07:17
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Nexanowrong button again07:18
terran4000_and brb, cat managed to get her nose in a wrong place again AND break some glass.07:18
Nexanowas gonna say *cough apple cough*07:18
KevinAlaskawhat would a "Bus error (core dump) mean?  I am trying to run firefox but this is the error given if I try to run it from shell... otherwise when I do it from KDE I just an hour glass thing for about 30 seconds to 1 minute about?07:18
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terran4000_Nexano: you could try fn+vol and see if that works ....07:22
NexaMacterran4000_: opening an .mp3 got me "please check that your soundcard if configured properly/you have the correct output plugin seleceted/no other program if blocking the soundcard"07:22
NexaMaclike i said, fn doesnt work, and i havent set those keys up :/07:22
terran4000_NexaMac:  > ps -A | grep artsd07:22
NexaMac 8672 ?        00:00:00 artsd07:23
terran4000_hm, ok .. so that's running07:23
terran4000_random question ... what options do you have in the Output tab of kmix07:24
terran4000_meaning: Master, PCM. Digital ... ect07:24
Daisuke_Idothis certainly takes a while07:24
Daisuke_Idoresizing and moving an ext3 fs07:25
NexaMacheadset, pcm, front, sorround, line, mic, mic boost07:25
Daisuke_Ido& partition07:25
terran4000_Daisuke_Ido: a few cups of tea and a book are recommended tools for the job07:25
terran4000_Ok, no headset plugged in?07:25
NexaMacand my speakers input (physical) is emitting a red LED07:25
NexaMaccant be good :<07:25
NexaMacnah i tried plugging a headset in, didnt work :/07:26
terran4000_wait .. speakers input?07:26
NexaMacas in, on the side of my laptop07:27
NexaMacnot the mixer07:27
terran4000_o.O never knew there was just a thing on a mac07:27
NexaMac? :o07:27
NexaMacargh this is pissing me off07:27
terran4000_a red led by the speakers on a mac ... odd.07:27
chris0626891This is amazing! http://gizmodo.com/photogallery/microserveces08/100044614507:27
NexaMacone computer wont get video card to work, one wont get sound and a third wont get wireless07:27
mahasamoothow can I take snapshots with my webcam?07:28
NexaMacmahasamoot: is it properly set up?07:28
xoqawill kubuntu come out with a kde4 version on jan. 17?07:28
chris0626891I can't get sound to wok in KDE4, hopefully this will be fixed by release :P07:28
chris0626891You mean the 11th?07:28
NexaMacactually terran4000_07:28
NexaMacive got a usb soundcard lying around07:28
NexaMacill give it a shot07:28
chris0626891It better come out the same day KDE4 is releaed T_T07:28
mahasamootNexaMac: Yes, I think so... what do I need to do?07:28
JucatoKubuntu will provide packages asap. maybe on the same day, maybe not07:29
chris0626891I hope so :)07:29
xoqacan't wait07:29
chris0626891Me neither.07:29
chris0626891I used it..07:29
Jucatoyou'll have to :P07:29
chris0626891But for some reason, my whole menubar disipeared.07:29
Jucato(to wait I mean)07:29
chris0626891so.. i'm back to 3.507:29
mahasamootNexaMac: it  works w/ kopete but not camorama07:30
terran4000_NexaMac: do you have xmms installed?07:30
mahasamootNexaMac: it's a Logitech Pro 9000 HD webcam07:30
terran4000_NexaMac: fun idea! > mplayer song.mp307:31
NexaMacmahasamoot: i always used aMSN for that :p07:31
terran4000_at least mplayer gives decent output info07:31
mahasamootNexaMac: it works on aMSN, but I want to take still pics07:31
NexaMacterran4000_: do i have to set it up properly or just download and run?07:32
NexaMacmahasamoot: cant help ya then :|07:32
terran4000_NexaMac: mplayer pretty much 'just' works (usually) for audio.07:33
terran4000_And it's got great verbose output07:33
NexaMacterran4000_: what if it wont open? ;(07:34
Nexanodamn you kde07:35
Nexanofirst time i tried dual booting on a mac, i didnt install rEFLt first07:36
Nexanobig mistake07:36
terran4000_refllt? o.O07:37
Nexanowithout it i just about cant boot osx, cause grub acts lika stuckup b****07:37
Nexanolike a07:37
Demonho-brhello.. me again07:38
Demonho-brI installed the kubuntu kde4 rc2, and i would like to get my wireless working,07:38
Demonho-bris it possible ?07:38
Nexanothats pretty vague info07:38
terran4000_Everything possible with enough beer.07:38
Demonho-brthe livecd is only 466mb so i think there is no modules to wireless conection07:39
terran4000_don't recommend flying though with beer. Woke up the next day with one mighty headache.07:39
Demonho-branyway. kde4 rc2 doesnt have adept oO07:39
Demonho-brand in my systemsettings  i saw no option to configure restricted driver  for my card07:39
Demonho-brintel 9345ABG07:39
Demonho-br... google is not helping too07:39
Myrth[home]if i run in Xephyr per kde4-rc2 manual "startkde" it runs kde 3.507:39
stdinrun /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde07:40
Demonho-bri installed the kde4 from livecd.. i didnt have kde3 before07:40
Demonho-brNexano, hehe i think its all information i know07:40
terran4000_KDE4 is not really 'stable' in my opinion. It's pretty and all, but it's not for production use 'yet'07:41
terran4000_With it's final release it should be but RC2 is just that: Release Candidate.07:41
dhqterran4000_: have you tried kde407:42
stdin"KDE4" != "KDE 4.0.0" ;)07:42
terran4000_dhq: yes I have07:42
terran4000_at least if we are talking about RC2 from the repo's07:43
Nexanodeafult gateway is obviously invalid07:44
Nexanobut eh..07:44
Nexanoive been using it forever07:44
terran4000_Nexano: so ... did you try: >mplayer song.mp307:44
Nexanono sound07:44
Nexanowhat did you want from it?07:44
terran4000_some output ^_^07:44
Nexanothats pretty vague info ;o07:45
terran4000_mplayer -v07:45
dhqterran4000_: after 12th it will be stable rite07:45
Nexanoterran4000_: pastebin? :<07:45
terran4000_dhq: sorry but I don't know. I'm not following the KDE4 devel too much. Not am I interested it in ... so I don't know.07:45
terran4000_Nexano: please :-07:46
Nexanowell i cant >_>07:46
Nexanostupid wireless07:46
terran4000_hmm, time to think.07:47
Nexanoanyone want to tell me why kubuntu cant accept the fact that my gateway is what it is? :/07:48
foibleshi there, can someone help me out with getting festival to work?07:49
foiblesthe text to voice program?07:49
foiblesim having some issues with oss and esd it looks like07:49
terran4000_Nexano: did you try using ifconfig to set it manually?07:49
Nexanoterran4000_: tried setting it manually through the gui07:50
terran4000_never tried a gui to do a man's job07:52
NexaMacmy osx wireless works at least07:53
NexaMac<3 that07:53
NexaMacgonna try kubuntu again07:53
NexaMacbrb :P07:53
Demonho-brNexano, what is his wireless card ?07:54
Demonho-brdo u know ?07:54
Demonho-brNexano, nexamac07:54
Nexanoits an bcm card07:54
Demonho-brmerh ?07:54
Nexanowas working until i rebooted >_>07:54
terran4000_bcm? ooo07:54
terran4000_ndis works for that rather well07:54
Demonho-brNexano, nexamac said his wireless is working in osx07:54
Demonho-brNexano, i asked couz my intel doesnt work in osx07:54
NexanoDemonho-br: newsflash, i am nexamac07:55
Demonho-brintel 9345abg07:55
Nexanoso dont correct me about statements i make about myself :<07:55
Demonho-brNexano, why my card doesnt work in Pc-BSD and osx ?07:55
Demonho-brNexano, im not !07:55
Nexanowhy ask me? ;)07:55
Demonho-brNexano, because u hacko07:55
Nexanoits working? :O07:56
Nexanoholy nuts07:56
Demonho-brwhat ?07:56
nexamacpastebin incoming terran4000_07:56
nexamacthis is like killing gamon, 50% of the time he smacks you back07:56
* terran4000_ awaits a pastebin07:57
nexamachightlighting terran4000_ is what i do07:58
terran4000_no, just panicing that I owe a friend 30g in wow ><07:58
Nexanowhat are you, level 30? :P07:58
Nexanoseriously? :D07:58
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!07:58
terran4000_meh fine fine07:58
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terran4000_hmm, pastebin ....08:04
terran4000_NexaMac: that's one strange output ...08:04
terran4000_you sure you did: mplayer -v somesong.mp308:04
NexaMaci like strange08:04
NexaMacits close to unique08:05
NexaMaci did mplayer -v08:05
terran4000_-v with the song ^^08:05
terran4000_unique == grass is not greener on the other side ;-)08:05
NexaMacsong title as shown in mplayer or the name of the file?08:06
NexaMacim guessing the last one08:06
terran4000_name of file08:06
terran4000_so .. if you had a song file named bebop.mp308:07
terran4000_mplayer -v bebop.mp308:07
NexaMachit ctrl+c at the end there08:07
terran4000_try this: mplayer -v Stiff Upper Lip.mp308:09
terran4000_and no other commands08:09
jussi01terran4000_: you need the \ for spaces08:10
NexaMacpastebin.com is gonna kill me for this one08:10
jussi01terran4000_: try using tab completion for it08:11
terran4000_eh, true enough jussi01 ...08:11
terran4000_so I guess it should be08:12
jussi01ie. brochure\ edits.doc08:12
terran4000_mplayer -v Stiff\ Upper\ Lip.mp308:12
terran4000_or so right?08:12
jussi01terran4000_: correct08:12
terran4000_yeah ... need the "\" in there NexaMac08:12
jussi01making sure the case is correct also08:12
terran4000_something tells me "Stiff Upper Lip.mp3" isn't exactly where we want it to be ...08:15
jussi01terran4000_: are you in the directory where the file is located?08:16
terran4000_jussi01: NexaMac is the one we are trying to get the output from.08:16
NexaMacits on my desktop truth be told08:16
jussi01ahh, ok08:16
jussi01NexaMac: are you in the Desktop directory?08:17
NexaMacnow i am08:17
jussi01NexaMac: try now ;)08:17
noaXessis there a special installation for a kubuntu server?08:17
* terran4000_ bangs head on table08:18
chris0626891Why.. would you want a Kubuntu server?08:18
* NexaMac hides08:18
chris0626891Why not just a regular Ubuntu server? o_008:18
jussi01noaXess: servers shouldnt have a gui...08:18
ardchoillenoaXess: There's the server install cd or..08:18
ardchoille!lamp | noaXess08:19
ubotunoaXess: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)08:19
terran4000_NexaMac: ok ... <cough> Where on your computer is there a mp3 located. Whichever directory it is ... go to it08:20
terran4000_Once there, type:08:20
terran4000_mplayer -v08:20
terran4000_and then use auto-complete to help you type in the name of the song08:20
terran4000_song/mp3 that is08:20
NexaMack :p08:21
NexaMacNOW were talking08:21
chris0626891Does anyone know why my KDE4 menu poofed? :(08:22
chris0626891Is there a config file I can delete that fixes this?08:23
NexaMacterran4000_:  http://pastebin.com/d48572d7608:23
terran4000_ok, now we're getting somewhere08:24
* terran4000_ goes back to farming08:25
terran4000_one sec, horse08:25
terran4000_okie .....08:27
terran4000_is thinking08:28
ActionParsniphey all08:28
terran4000_NexaMac: you have gutsy? right08:29
terran4000_you enabled restricted, universe and mutltiverse too right?08:29
NexaMacgutsy yes08:30
NexaMacdidnt enable any of those08:30
terran4000_ok, one sec08:30
jussi01!enter | NexaMac08:30
ubotuNexaMac: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!08:31
NexaMacwhat about it? :o08:32
terran4000_hmm, maybe I should enable backports08:32
terran4000_enable restricted, universe and multiverse like I did there08:32
ActionParsnipNexaMac, you can do it in add/remove programs in your system menu08:33
jussi01or adept08:33
NexaMacso adept restricted, universe and multiverse?08:35
xoqahow do i access 'dive into python' after downloading it?08:35
NexaMacscrew that08:35
NexaMacterran4000_: terminal command,s or do i add it all in one file?08:35
terran4000_xoqa: depends on what file type it is08:35
terran4000_terminal commands, right. one sec08:36
xoqahow do you find out what type of file it is through apt?08:36
* xoqa is reading the man page in hopes of finding the answer08:37
ActionParsnipxoqa, try file <file you want to query>08:37
terran4000_sudo echo "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted universe multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list08:37
terran4000_sudo echo "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates main restricted universe multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list08:38
terran4000_sudo echo "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-security main restricted universe multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list08:38
xoqaActionParsnip: thanks. but now i've got to find the file :P08:38
terran4000_guess also this could work ...08:38
terran4000_sudo echo "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-backports main restricted universe multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list08:38
ActionParsnipxoqa, so you dont know where you downloaded it to?08:38
xoqawherever apt downloaded i suppose08:38
xoqano i don't know where it's at08:39
stdinterran4000_: "sudo echo ... > file" will always fail08:39
ActionParsnipxoqa, if you installed with apt-get install then its installed08:39
xoqaActionParsnip: yep, but where is the question :P08:39
ActionParsnipxoqa, what comand did you use?08:39
terran4000_stdin: why would sudo echo bleh >> ..." fail?08:39
ActionParsnipterran4000_, seems ok to me08:40
xoqaActionParsnip: aptitude08:40
stdinterran4000_: because the redirect ">>" is done by the shell (as the user)08:40
ActionParsnipxoqa, the full command please08:40
xoqaActionParsnip: sudo aptitude install diveintopython08:40
terran4000_geh, makes sense I guess08:40
stdinterran4000_: echo "thing" |sudo tee -a file" is the way (-a is append)08:40
nexamacso hwat, i dont do it afterall? :>08:40
terran4000_eh, ask stdin to translate..08:41
terran4000_it's 3am. I gotta be off.08:41
nexamacthanks for your help :p08:41
stdinreplace "sudo echo" with "echo" and replace ">>" with " | sudo tee -a "08:41
ActionParsnipxoqa, just type "diveintopython &" at CLI (without quotes)08:41
ActionParsnipxoqa, http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/doc/diveintopython its in the repos so you can install it with sudo apt-get install diveintopython08:43
terran4000_Sorry for not fixing you're problem.08:43
xoqaActionParsnip: yep, i've tried that08:43
terran4000_Wish I coulda helped more.08:43
xoqait doesn't do anything08:43
terran4000_nexamac: 'night08:44
terran4000_Night guys and gals08:44
ActionParsnipxoqa, /usr/share/doc/diveintopython08:45
ForgeAushey all :)08:46
nexamac stdin: but echo doesnt do anything? :/08:46
ActionParsnipxoqa, maybe /usr/share/doc/diveintopython/html/toc/index.html08:46
ForgeAusPython rox :)08:46
stdinecho just echoes :)08:46
ActionParsnipxoqa, you got it?08:47
xoqahow'd you find it ActionParsnip?08:47
ActionParsnipxoqa, www.google.com08:47
ForgeAushehe echo echo cho cho ho o o o o ... . . .08:47
ActionParsnipxoqa, id create a shortcut on your desktop08:47
nexamacstdin: so why am i supposed to type it? o_O08:48
stdinbecause you're sending the string that echo prints to the next command08:49
ActionParsnipxoqa, could even change the icon to http://www.onlinecomputerbooks.com/images/diveintopython.gif08:49
xoqaActionParsnip: i don't see the point08:49
xoqai'm going to remove it08:49
marx2kquick question... if I want to edit a file association in a file manager, but I need the command (cksfv) to run it with the specified directory it was clicked in, the syntax would be "cksfv -C /dir/name" so, if I was to edit the "Open With.." dialog, would I put "cksfv -C \w"? or what is the directory subsitution? %w?08:49
xoqait's diveintopython.org08:49
ActionParsnipxoqa, its a tutorial n python.08:49
xoqai just wanted the book08:49
xoqai thought it was the book but it's really just a copy of diveintopython.org08:49
ActionParsnipxoqa, apparently it is, in html fromat08:49
stdinnexamac: for example "echo something | command" sends "something" to the input of the command "command"08:49
ForgeAusdef myfunc (arg):08:50
xoqaand pdf.. and others :P08:50
ActionParsnipxoqa, oh, i see08:50
ActionParsnipxoqa, i'd just download the pdf on the site :)08:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kiss - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:50
ForgeAusits also built into some compilers...08:50
ForgeAusdive into python is in activepython's help and its also built into a few other python help systems08:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:53
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto08:53
stdin!test | arwin08:56
ubotuarwin: Failed.08:56
arwinwhere are u08:56
jords!test | me08:56
ubotume: Failed.08:56
stdinon the interbolgosphere08:56
ActionParsnip!test | ActionParsnip08:56
jords!test | ubotu08:57
ubotuubotu: Failed.08:57
se7eni should be running kdm as a windows manager or ... how can i check08:57
stdinse7en: kdm is the display manager, not the window manager08:57
stdinkwin is the window manager08:57
se7ensorry display manager08:58
arwineveryone in here is bot??08:58
stdinarwin: no, only ubotu (or it's the only one that's supposed to be here)08:58
se7eni get since today after compiz --replace a error08:58
stdinse7en: kdm has nothing to do with compiz08:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about inittab - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:59
arwini see08:59
ActionParsnipse7en, what is the error?08:59
stdinyou need a /09:00
se7en/usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Another window manager is already running on screen: 009:00
se7en/usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Fatal: No manageable screens found on display :009:00
se7enexec: 378: /usr/bin/metacity: not found09:00
se7enas fare as i can see emerald can't replace kwin09:02
noaXessto change the runlevel i can use eg.: telinit 3 right?.. in which file is no the line id:3:initdefault: ?09:03
ActionParsnipse7en, http://gravityboy.livejournal.com/30382.html09:03
ActionParsnipse7en, may help09:03
ActionParsnipse7en, http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?p=4465909:04
se7enit worked till i tried to have a panle on the top of my desktop ...09:04
ActionParsnipse7en, what app is giving you the panel?09:05
se7enActionParsnip: system settings > desktop > behavior > menu bar at top of screen09:06
ActionParsnipse7en, does it run ok when it is at the bottom09:07
se7eni didn't try anymore i just disabled the top panle but now i cant start compiz anymore09:07
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code09:08
jordsVIM IS USER FRIENDLY!!!!!09:09
KevinAlaskaWould anyone know how to automate the shutdown of the computer at a given time?09:09
noaXess!find vim09:09
ubotuFound: vim, vim-common, vim-doc, vim-gnome, vim-gui-common (and 18 others)09:09
jordsKevinAlaska: You could use cron and shedule 'halt' for root09:09
se7enso ActionParsnip everything is back to the way it was only compiz is not running anymore and google doesnt help much because everybody asuming something is wrong with the graphic card drive ...09:09
jordsat a paticular time09:10
noaXessok.. there is a vim package that highlights the code.. is this an extra package or a default?09:10
KevinAlaskajords: what might cron be? a default app in KDE?09:12
ActionParsnip!cron | KevinAlaska09:12
ubotuKevinAlaska: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm09:12
KevinAlaska... ahhh.. thank you :)09:12
foiblesit possible to schedule a command to execute at a certain time?09:14
ActionParsnip!cron | foibles09:14
ubotufoibles: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm09:14
ActionParsnipI'm sure there's an echo in here09:14
foiblesfor instance, something that looks like: 10:00 audacious /media/music/techno.playlist?09:15
foiblesActionParsnip, thanks09:16
ActionParsnipfoibles, its all in the howto :)09:16
ActionParsnipfoibles, np09:16
ActionParsnipJust think about 5 years ago everyone kind of shyed away from Linux but it seems to be making a huge surge :D09:19
ActionParsnipwell, on the massed market of home users09:19
foiblesActionParsnip, i actually didnt know what linux was for a long while09:20
foiblesim not exactly sure how i got into it09:20
foiblesi read something, and looked deeper into it09:21
foiblesdownloaded a livecd, and fell in love at the power of it09:21
foiblesim just a home user09:21
ActionParsnipI was on XP and got REALLY random IRC_GREATER_OR_EQUAL_TO BSODs. So I switched to Mandriva and then Kubuntu :)09:21
foiblesActionParsnip, i think my first was slackware09:22
foiblesit was a bitch to get working09:22
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!09:22
ActionParsniphey kossi09:22
kossisi si09:23
kossido you speak french09:23
ActionParsnip!fr | kossi09:23
ubotukossi: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.09:23
nexamacgonna give my poor mac a few hours rest09:24
nexamaclater peeps09:24
Briareos1i've created a drive image of my root partition and now put that image back onto the disk (image_of_sda2_root.img > /dev/sda2), but now i get "Error loading operating system"09:25
Briareos1any idea?09:25
Briareos1(the sda2 is set active)09:25
oemhey whats up guys09:42
ardchoilleIn kcontrol > KDE Components > Service Manager, KDED Media manager is checked, but it never starts up when logging into kde. Everything is fine once I manually click "start", then it runs normally. What would keep this service from starting upon login?09:42
Briareos1i got it: in /etc/mtab the root partition was set to sda3 while it is sda2 ...09:45
=== oem is now known as XadVio
XadViohi im back09:47
XadViodoes anyone know about C++09:50
JucatoXadVio: I know a little. but if it's a C++ programming question, the best place to ask is in ##c++09:54
XadVioi just need to know a little bet more on translating nembers to binary09:55
jussi01hmmm, how does one make html messages be viewable by default on kmail?09:59
ardchoillejussi01: In kmail prefs, Security > Reading tab > HTML Messages ?10:01
jussi01ardchoille: thanks10:03
nuggzthere u are10:07
nuggzwud up bor!!10:07
nuggzegg nuts!!10:08
=== AzAel is now known as SarraHH
XadVio_hey whats up10:12
XadVio_my network was turned off10:12
nuggzdownloading some essential mixes10:12
naught102undeleting on an ext3 partition on a USB HDD... Hard or Easy?10:12
naught102I just deleted ~300 photos accidentally10:13
nuggzmy external deleted 7000 of my songs...stay away from Maxtor externals10:13
naught102dude, sorry, but that doesn't help10:14
ardchoille!cn | qubuntu10:16
ubotuqubuntu: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk10:16
qubuntuare there any ant-virus softs in linux? man10:17
ardchoille!antivirus | qubuntu10:17
ubotuqubuntu: antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus10:17
XadVio_you dont need antivirus for linux unless u going to use ur programs on windows10:18
qubuntuI am newer of linux, is there really no virus in linux?10:20
XadVio_yes but its makable10:20
ardchoillequbuntu:  http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10/06/linux_vs_windows_viruses/10:20
maurice_Hello there10:20
XadVio_there probably some that exist10:21
XadVio_but really rare i guess10:21
qubuntuwhy so few?10:21
ardchoillequbuntu: That web page that I posted eplains the state of viruses in Linux.10:22
nuggzcause 93 % of comps run windows10:22
XadVio_becouse the most viruses are made only for windows10:22
qubuntuoh, I see in your html10:22
qubuntumany thanks. I needn't get worried never10:23
XadVio_its all windows now days10:23
XadVio_what type of linux are you using?10:24
qubuntuit may be changed in the future, because more and more people will select linux10:24
qubuntuubuntu 7.1010:25
qubuntueasy to use ~10:25
XadVio_ya i know10:25
qubuntubut I realy know little about it10:26
qubuntufriends help me launch it10:26
XadVio_what do you mean lauch it?10:27
qubuntuwhat about your linux version?10:27
qubuntuinstall it , sorry10:27
XadVio_im using ubuntu to10:28
qubuntucool too~10:28
qubuntuhow do you feel about it?10:28
sebbarhi, when kde 4.0 is released, will kubuntu with kde4 install cds be available?10:28
XadVio_its not bad i really like it10:29
qubuntuI use compiz to get the 3D effect ,so cool10:30
ardchoillesebbar: afaik, the next release of Kubuntu (Hardy Herron) will ship with kde 3.5 and kde4 as options.10:30
qubuntukde 4.0 will available in the next version of ubuntu, hardy10:31
jussi01qubuntu: yes, as an option10:31
XadVio_is ur computer fast?10:31
qubuntuhow to get the 3D effect in KDE3.5 ? I want it10:32
ardchoille!compiz | qubuntu10:32
ubotuqubuntu: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion10:32
XadVio_you mean for the linux ubuntu?10:33
qubuntucore 2 T7250 ,with 2G memory10:33
XadVio_ok i have no idea what that is10:33
gladier2 x 2g10:34
gladierthe cpu10:34
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!10:34
qubuntuas a beginner I just want to try every effect10:35
XadVio_i planing to get a laptop someday10:36
jussi01XadVio_: please see the offtopic from the bot ;)10:37
XadVio_anyone wants to share pictures of porn10:44
XadVio_or porn films10:45
nuggzu dirty dog10:45
parkinhi, i can not open add/remove programs in kubuntu10:47
XadVio_have you opened it before10:47
parkinit just loads but doesnt open10:48
XadVio_sorry i mean when is the last time it worked?10:48
XadVio_maybe you need to restart youre computer10:49
parkinill try, brb10:49
parkinworks now :)10:52
parkinsimple as that^10:52
phi_how do uninstall/turn off kdewallet?10:52
XadVio_i dont know what that is10:54
XadVio_try google10:54
phi_yeh im getting nuffin from google10:55
XadVio_me ether10:55
ardchoillephi_: Open kcontrol with ctral+alt+f2 and type in kcontrol . once kcontrol is open, go to Security & Privacy > KDE Wallet . Uncheck "Enable the kde wallet subsystem" and click Apply10:55
ardchoillephi_: Sorry, it's alt+f210:56
phi_i think kdewallet has something to do with kde daemon10:56
Jack_Sparrow!find kdewallet10:58
ubotuPackage/file kdewallet does not exist in gutsy10:58
RogueJediX!find kwalletmanager11:00
ubotuFound: kwalletmanager11:00
parkinanyone know how to make the background transparent in konversation?11:04
phi_hey i cant find kdewallet11:04
=== phi_ is now known as pheebz
pheebzhow do i turn it off11:04
pheebzim using ubuntu but no one in #ubuntu knows how to do it11:05
jordspheebz: so you have kde installed as well?11:05
pheebzi guess11:06
ardchoillepheebz: Ah, you're using ubuntu, that is info we did not have.11:06
ardchoillepheebz: Open kcontrol with alt+f2 and type in kcontrol . once kcontrol is open, go to Security & Privacy > KDE Wallet . Uncheck "Enable the kde wallet subsystem" and click Apply11:06
pheebzCould not open location 'file:///kcontrol'11:07
ardchoillepheebz: open a terminal and type in kcontrol11:07
pheebzits tellin me to install it first11:08
pheebzis that rite?11:08
ardchoillepheebz: Ok, let's try this. Open a terminal and run: kwalletmanager11:09
noaXessin kde is there any global setting how folder or file lists are sorted?11:09
ardchoillepheebz: Once kwalletmanager is open, right click the tray icon and choose "Configure Wallet", then disable it and exit kwalletmanager11:10
ActionParsniplo all11:10
ardchoillepheebz: When you next need help with a kde app, please be sure to mention that you are using ubuntu instead of kubuntu. That will help folks here to help you.11:11
pheebzhey i got kde control centre but i cant find the kdewallet thing11:12
ardchoillepheebz: In the Security & Privacy section?11:12
pheebzsecurity & privacy doesnt have kdewallet setting11:12
pheebzits has crypto and privacy11:13
pheebzthats it11:13
ardchoillepheebz: I'm guessing that you kde rather than kubuntu-desktop ?11:13
pheebzdo i have to install it?11:13
pheebzphi@phi-laptop:~$ kwalletmanager11:14
pheebzX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 17111:14
pheebz  Major opcode:  14911:14
pheebz  Minor opcode:  311:14
pheebz  Resource id:  0x011:14
pheebzFailed to open device11:14
ardchoille!paste | pheebz11:14
ubotupheebz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)11:14
pheebzX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 17111:14
pheebz  Major opcode:  14911:14
pheebz  Minor opcode:  311:14
pheebz  Resource id:  0x011:14
pheebzFailed to open device11:14
pheebzthats wat my terminal says11:14
Lynourepheebz: that probably just means you don't have a wacom tablet, don't worry about that message11:15
ardchoille!baddevice | pheebz11:15
ubotupheebz: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors11:15
pheebzdont worry  i got it11:15
ActionParsnippheebz, 171 error. That's the wacom stanzas and their refrence in "ServerLayout"11:16
pheebzthanx guys11:17
ActionParsniphello administrator11:31
administratori new to this11:32
ActionParsnipadministrator, the username kinda gives it away11:33
ActionParsnipadministrator, you liking it?11:33
=== domentarion_ is now known as domentarion
jussi01could someone point me to a good tutorial on setting up a bzr repository on my server?11:48
XadViohi im back again11:51
XadVioso what is everyone up to11:51
vbgunzwhats the quickest and easiest way to right now get any kind of notification on the hour by the hour?11:55
emilsedghvbgunz: kalarm?11:56
vbgunzI'll try that :)11:56
ubuntuHi all >(12:05
ubuntuHi all :)12:05
micaelagreetings all12:24
ibouhow to open an irc hyperlink in konqueror in konversation ?12:24
micaelaso my power manager doesn't seem to recognize my cpu...I have options to suspend or hibernate but nothing for cpu policy etc...12:25
micaelais it possible that my laptop is in desktop mode?\12:27
ActionParsnipibou, theres a setting in konversation. let me google12:29
ActionParsnipibou, http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/webbrowser_screen_co.png12:30
ActionParsnipibou, pref -> behavior -> general12:30
ActionParsnipibou, use custom webbrowser konqueror %u12:31
ActionParsnipibou, did you google at all?12:31
mohahi all12:32
ActionParsniph moha12:32
mohaI have some problem with my sound!12:32
ActionParsnipmoha, wassup with it12:32
mohaActionParsnip: My keyboard volume keys does not work till I run a gnome app like toem!12:33
mohaActionParsnip: then just the volume keys work and others like next&prev traks does not work!12:34
mohaI wanna control my sound rnormali with my keyboard in kubuntu12:35
ActionParsnipmoha, have you googled any?12:35
mohaActionParsnip: found nothing usefull! even in forums!12:36
ActionParsnipmoha, let me try12:36
mohaActionParsnip:  ty ;)12:36
ActionParsnipmoha, do you have all the latest updates?12:37
mohaActionParsnip: not all of them! some!12:37
ActionParsnipmoha, sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade12:37
mohaActionParsnip: will this downloads a lot?12:38
ActionParsnipmoha, whatever updates you need12:38
ActionParsnipmoha, depends what you don't have12:38
mohaActionParsnip: let me see...12:39
ActionParsnipmoha, i'd check that first and come back (sounds like you have a slow connection)12:39
ActionParsnip(no offence)12:39
ActionParsnipmoha, once you are fully updated try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys12:40
mohaActionParsnip: yeah! to some extetnt.. my bandwidth is low here! ;)12:40
mohaActionParsnip: ooh! cool! sure!12:40
ActionParsnipmoha, try the keys after the update thouh. those updates fix lots :)12:41
XxXValeteXxXVista Jokes: Nº 1 question on Vista FAQs - "How do I get my money back?"12:41
mohaActionParsnip: this may be usefull too! yes?12:41
ActionParsnipmoha, indeed12:41
XxXValeteXxXVista Jokes: "This will end your Vista session. Do you want to play another game?"12:42
XxXValeteXxXhahaha I am full of these lines12:42
ActionParsnipTheres an update in vista - The RED screen of death.12:42
ActionParsnipcheck it on youtube12:42
jussi01!ot | XxXValeteXxX12:42
ubotuXxXValeteXxX: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!12:42
XxXValeteXxXActionParsnip :x12:42
micaelaaha...Laptop mode isn't running and I can't seem to get it to start12:44
ActionParsnipmicaela, what happens when you power on?12:48
micaelaeverything boots up fine...laptop mode just doesn't start...ndiswrapper gui won't start either12:50
phimichi all12:50
phimici got problems with setting up a odbc connection for openoffice12:50
ActionParsnipmicaela, do you have the latest updates?12:51
ActionParsnipmicaela, i found that12:51
micaelathankee sai12:51
ActionParsnipmicaela, its not something ive playedwith really. gimme a sec12:51
ActionParsnipdo you have ubuntu-laptop-mode-tools?12:52
ActionParsnipmicaela, http://samwel.tk/laptop_mode/faq12:52
phimici miss the packages libmysqlclient10 and libmysqlclient1412:52
ActionParsnipmicaela, scroll down to 3. Is Laptop Mode Enabled?12:53
ActionParsnipphimic, http://www.easysoft.com/applications/openoffice_org/odbc.html12:54
ActionParsnipphimic, i just found that. i dont know how useful it is12:54
phimicActionParsnip: i will check this thankx12:55
ActionParsnipphimic, np12:56
micaelaIt's not12:57
ActionParsnipmicaela, i'd check that link i sent and make sure you have the laptop-tools12:59
onishidatohey guys, how can i remove a wrong link i have just add in apt source list?? using the code please :)13:01
ActionParsniponishidato, why not just use kate. its WAY easier13:01
ActionParsniponishidato, sudo kate /etc/apt/source.list13:02
ActionParsnip!kate | onishidato13:02
ubotuonishidato: Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code13:02
ActionParsniponishidato, correction13:02
ActionParsniponishidato, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list13:02
onishidatoActioParsnip: thnks, this is really good exp13:04
ActionParsniponishidato, makes sense to use a text editor to edit a text file13:05
ActionParsniponishidato, if you start doing stuff like this loads its a good idea to backup the file first so you can revert back if it all goes wrong13:05
onishidatoActioParsnip: do you know any website can teach me about using code in Linux?? i'm want to learn some simple commad13:06
ActionParsniponishidato, sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup13:06
onishidatoActionParsnip: do you know any website can teach me about using code in Linux?? i'm want to learn some simple commad13:06
ActionParsniponishidato, just read manual pages for commands13:06
onishidatowhich one?13:06
onishidatoActionParsnip: which one??13:06
Jucato!patience | onishidato13:07
ubotuonishidato: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines13:07
onishidato!thank |jucato13:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thank - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi13:08
Jucato!bash | onishidato13:08
ubotuonishidato: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal13:08
onishidatojucato: thanks for calm me down :)13:08
Jucatoonishidato: http://tldp.org/guides.html is a good source too (look for the Bash guide for beginners, but it's 2006)13:09
onishidatojucato: thanks again13:11
MGalaxycould u plz suggest me a "personal time organizer" software?13:13
parkinhi, i was able to see wireless networks then then there was an error crash and now i can not see any wireless networks anymore13:15
parkinit only sees wired devices13:15
ActionParsnipparkin, do you see your wifi adapter when you run ifconfig?13:15
parkinyes i see eth113:21
parkinthat is the wireless13:21
ActionParsnipparkin, you should have more. let me find the command13:23
parkink thanks13:23
ActionParsnipparkin, try lspci13:24
ActionParsnipparkin, can you see any wireless devices in that list?13:25
parkin02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8001 Gigabit Ether                       net Controller (rev 13)13:25
mgphi, I have a weird conection system at my campus. Basically, I have to introduce a user name and password to access the internet. (though I have no knowledge of or configuration for a proxy server) So when I open a browser I get prompted for username and password. Obviously this is fine for browsing the intenet but is akward for command line programs or other more "complicated connections." For instance, adept(i use kubuntu) could not connect to the servers. I so13:25
mgp//user:password@rest.of.the.url to all the urls in the source list. Unfortunately for packages that aren't downloaded from these urls, for instance the on free flash, still fail. For some programs like wget that allow the http-user argument I can alias them and their is no problem. Unfortunately for programs like amarok (internet streams) or kopete, I don't seem to get promted a password and conections fail. Does anyone know of a way to set a default http passwor13:25
mgp at least for kde? Sorry for the long post, not used to chating.13:25
mgpTo MGalaxy: what de you mean by "personal time organizer"? Something like Korganizer?13:25
ActionParsnipparkin, thats the wired network13:26
mohaMGalaxy: Korgnizaer is best13:27
MGalaxymgp: yes, I found KOrganizer right now :D is there anything better than korganizer?13:27
pheebzwhen i open screenlets manager this msg comes up.. "Unable to connect or launch daemon. Some values may be displayed incorrectly."13:27
pheebzhow do i fix this13:27
pheebzim using ubuntu13:27
ActionParsnipparkin, anything else13:27
mgpI love Korganizer but there are others13:27
parkin02:03.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connec                       tion (rev 05)13:27
ActionParsnipparkin, bingo! ok we have a compatible wifi card and its installed13:27
mgpfor instance I tink the Mozilla suite has one13:28
ActionParsnipparkin, can you give us a pastebin of your /etc/network/interfaces file please13:28
ActionParsnip!paste | parkin13:28
ubotuparkin: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)13:28
mgpMGallaxy: or if you prefer webbased then google provides a calendar (not comparable though)13:29
ActionParsnipmkgp, you need to set the http proxy in all your apps13:29
pheebzdoes anyone know how i can fix the popup error13:29
mgpbut I have no proxy to set up, No address I can find I only have a user and password13:31
mgppheebz: what do you mean popup error?13:31
ActionParsnipmgp, do a tracert. the first hop is your proxy13:31
ActionParsnipmgp, or should be13:32
pheebzwhen open screenlets manager13:32
pheebza error pops up13:33
mgpI'm having problems to install traceroute beacuse of the proxy (hahaha) be back in a sec13:33
ActionParsnipmgp, its already in13:33
ActionParsnipmgp, its a standard command13:33
mgpnot for me: The program 'tracert' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:sudo apt-get install traceroute13:33
pheebzwat is daemon13:33
mohaMGalaxy: Korgnizer provides Jalali calender and uir the best aspect to me!13:33
ActionParsnip!daemon | pheebz13:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about daemon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi13:34
ActionParsnippheebz, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_(computer_software)13:35
MGalaxymoha: hi mohi :D13:35
mohaMGalaxy: hi boy! ;)13:35
pheebzUnable to connect or launch daemon. Some values may be displayed incorrectly. what does this message mean13:36
pheebzand how can i fix this13:37
pheebzthe message only pops up when i open screenlets manager13:37
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Jucatowhat's screenlets manager?13:37
pheebzits like vista docklets13:38
pheebzor widgets13:38
Jucatoyes, but which one? Superkaramba (KDE)? gDesklets (GNOME)? some third party thingy?13:39
mguezuragaJucato: are you the Jucato that posts in planet developer?13:39
Jucatoplanet developer?13:39
* Jucato is only in planet ubuntu and planet kde...13:39
mguezuragaJucato: ok, dot.kde.org says planet developer, sorry13:40
Jucatooh ok. didn't notice that :)13:40
mguezuragaJucato: anyway, congrats for all your articles posted there13:40
Jucatoheh thanks... (they're too long for comfort...)13:40
qubuntuI just know that the Ubuntu systerm may ruin the hardware of my laptop!13:43
qubuntuis that ture?13:43
articpenguin3800why isnt kubuntu 8.04 LTS13:44
Jucatoarticpenguin3800: decision from Canonical. nothing much we can do or say about it13:44
Jucatoit's theirs to give or take.13:44
articpenguin3800mark shuttleworth the owner of canonical?13:45
JucatoCanonical as in the company13:45
benluois it a good time to install kde4 package in 7.10?13:45
mark__whats a demux?13:45
articpenguin3800id wait 2 more days for the real release of kde 4 but its up to you13:46
Jucatobenluo: well, I'd advice waiting for the final release13:46
Jucatomark__: demultiplexer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiplexer13:46
sahin_harticpenguin3800: For me Kubuntu is an LTS or not dosen't matter. I upgrade my systems every 6 months.13:46
benluoJucato: thanks13:47
articpenguin3800so do i =)13:47
mguezuragaqubuntu: yes, thats true. Use Windows Vista, its a better choice13:47
articpenguin3800whats true?13:47
Jucatomguezuraga: hmm?13:47
qubuntuI just hear that the Ubuntu systerm may ruin the hardware of my laptop!13:47
sahin_harticpenguin3800: I like the idea KDE4 is going to part of the next release.13:48
articpenguin3800the hard disk power off issue?13:48
Jucatomguezuraga: he's not a native english speaker. I doubt ironies or sarcasm translate well :)13:48
qubuntuhow can i DO to stop it without change for Vista?13:48
articpenguin3800sahin_h: me too13:48
articpenguin3800qubuntu: the hard disk power off issue?13:48
sahin_harticpenguin3800: So one point of view: So sad Kubuntu Hardy won't bee LTS.13:48
mguezuragaJucato, qubuntu: sorry, it was a joke13:49
qubuntuyes, u said it13:49
sahin_harticpenguin3800: Another point of view: Yep, but Kubuntu has the freedom to include KDE4 in Hardy.13:49
articpenguin3800its sad for the people who dont want to upgrade to new releases for 3 years13:49
sahin_harticpenguin3800: And for me the second was the sympatic choice.13:50
Jucatosahin_h: it has always been the plan to have a KDE 4 version, with or without LTS13:50
jpatrickarticpenguin3800: it's to make KDE4 for the next release13:50
dbmoodbbtw why is flash plugin installation broken (installing from the repository i take it )13:50
Jucatowhat changed is where we focus/put weight on now...13:50
sahin_hJucato: Yes, I know, however the developers now can focus on KDE4 havily.13:50
articpenguin3800i feel bad for the people who are still with Dapper drake13:50
jpatrickarticpenguin3800: it's their choice13:50
jpatrickarticpenguin3800: for me LTS is just a name tag13:51
sahin_harticpenguin3800: My server at my home still on dapper. However this is a server, not a desktop.13:51
Jucatodbmoodb: see the channel topic13:51
mark__can anyone send me there repo list?13:51
jpatrick!sources | mark__13:51
ubotumark__: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu13:51
qubuntumguezuraga: how can I do if I want to use ubuntu safer to my hardware?13:51
Jucato!source-o-matic | mark__13:52
ubotumark__: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic13:52
Jucatojpatrick: that one?13:52
jpatrickJucato: :)13:52
mark__thanks :)13:52
dbmoodbsorry - the title says it is broken13:52
qubuntumguezuraga: still there ?13:52
mguezuragaqubuntu: Don't know, I use *k*ubuntu and don't have a laptop/notebook13:52
Jucatoqubuntu: I don't know where you heard that, but without any solid proof, that's just a rumor.13:52
S_a_m_yhi is there a way to "hot plug" a beamer on a laptop?13:53
Jucatomguezuraga: see? he didn't get your joke :P13:53
dbmoodbsamy - ir beamer ?13:53
daniel100119New to kubuntu (coming from opensuse), my question: in adept updater, which feeds me with packages to be updated - where can I view information regarding what a particular update is about (what does it fix, etc.), I can only view information about the package itself.13:53
mguezuragaJucato: I see, no more ironies here :)13:54
S_a_m_ydmb: regular beaner... projector13:54
qubuntumguezuraga: http://www.linux-hero.com/rant/ubuntu-hard-drive-explosions/13:54
dbmoodbah daniel in the update check it should show you13:54
jpatrickdaniel100119: in the changelog section13:54
Jucatomguezuraga: nah. I had the advantage of knowing that he was not a native English speaker13:54
jpatrickdaniel100119: details I think it's in13:54
mguezuragaqubuntu: explosions? damn!13:54
ubotuUbuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) was the fourth release of Ubuntu. See !lts for more details.13:54
S_a_m_ydbmoodb: regular beamer... projector13:54
Jucatodaniel100119: click on the package name to bring down the longer description and action buttons. click on Details and go to the Changelog tab13:55
dbmoodboh .... and by hot plug you mean just plug in13:55
S_a_m_ydbmoodb: like under windows... I have fn keys to switch to external monitor13:55
dbmoodbwell it would depend on your graphics card no ? - never tried it personally (you should be able to set it up so you can use the fn function ...- you just said it)13:55
dbmoodbwell samy what happens atm ?13:55
mark__whats the app manager begining with S?13:56
qubuntuJucato: any more? I just want to solve the problem, no more time to chat other things13:56
articpenguin3800is it possible to download old releases like warty or horay13:56
jpatrickarticpenguin3800: yes, from releases.ubuntu.com13:56
S_a_m_ydbmoodb: doesn't seem to react... have an ati13:56
dbmoodboh which ati driver are you using ?13:56
Jucatojpatrick: not from there13:56
S_a_m_ydbmoodb: non-free13:56
articpenguin3800XD those are the only too ubuntu versions i havent used =)13:56
Jucatojpatrick, articpenguin3800: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/13:57
dbmoodbah, i see so it is an ati thing, doesn't the ati utility provide you the ability to do it ?13:57
jpatrickJucato: right13:57
Jucatoarticpenguin3800: those are basically dead releases13:57
dbmoodb(i mean ati and x-org conf)13:57
S_a_m_ydbmoodb: "ati utility"?13:57
mgpActionParsnip: Ok I managed to install tracert. Having problams with the command. Where should I tracert to? Wold my gateway bet the proxy? Thanks for your help!13:57
articpenguin3800jucato: i know there dead i want to see what ubuntu looked like in warty13:58
benluoi use amd notebook, but can not make wireless work13:58
dbmoodboh ops maybe it doesn't come with the ubuntu one ... (probably doesn't)13:58
Jucatoarticpenguin3800: just what it looked like? I think there are screenshots floating around...like a museum of ubuntu screenshots13:58
dbmoodbso samy you can't use the other projector when you hook it up ? mm13:58
benluoi use BC??? wifi card in HP NX6325  notebook13:58
dbmoodb- nothing actually happens ...13:58
jussi01!bcm43xx | benluo13:58
ubotubenluo: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx13:58
articpenguin3800forgot about screenshots13:58
mguezuragaTo be fair, I stop using kubuntu at home, but here (at work) I'm using Feisty13:58
daniel100119jpatrick, Jucato: thanks, now I understand!13:59
lg188i have a bug i think ... if i move a panel that i just have added  from the head panel to an other place its going back to its place before.. the head panel13:59
S_a_m_ydbmoodb: the screen function simply doesn seem to be implemented...13:59
S_a_m_ydbmoodb: *switch*13:59
jussi01!bug | lg18813:59
ubotulg188: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots13:59
articpenguin3800isnt edgy going to be unsupported in the next couple months??14:00
Jucatojussi01: I think he basically means he has a problem/issue... may not necessarily be a bug :)14:00
mguezuragaI think opensuse offers the best kde Ive seen in years, but I miss apt-get ;)14:00
dbmoodb- kde can be skinned14:00
dbmoodbfor samy14:01
Jucatodbmoodb: you can type 'S', press the Tab key until you get S_a_m_y's nick :)14:01
Jucatothat way his IRC app will highlight/notify him properly :)14:02
dbmoodbS_a_m_y:  yeah i mean the atioconfig thing before14:02
dbmoodbah didn't know that14:02
Jucatogood :)14:02
Jucato!tab | dbmoodb14:02
ubotudbmoodb: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.14:02
dbmoodbirc - i didn't know14:03
Jucatoany decent irc client would have that. if it doesn't, it's not decent :P14:04
qubuntuexcuse me : is there any one using laptop when you know the OS may ruin your hardware within a short time?14:04
S_a_m_ydbmoodb: your links helps. i'll have to try that.14:05
qubuntuIf you enable laptop mode, then it will enable aggressive power management on the drive and that may lead to some reduction in hard drive lifespan.14:05
qubuntuhow do u feel about that ?14:06
mark__i can't sudo apt-get anything14:06
dbmoodbeh qubuntu14:06
Jucatomark__: what does sudo apt-get update tell you?14:06
dbmoodbenable laptop mode will probably be good, if you install the laptop utilities14:06
Jucatomark__: if you need to paste long lines of text, use a pastebin14:06
Jucato!pastebin | mark__14:06
ubotumark__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)14:06
dbmoodbbesides that only affects certain drives and it is not ubuntu alone14:07
qubuntudbmoodb: whats the next?14:07
dbmoodb- so i take it samy crashed ?14:07
qubuntuhow to complete the safer settings14:07
mark__it just says it couldn't find the package14:08
dbmoodbah well you can use it or you can just modify /etc/acpi/power.sh i think14:08
mark__the package being xawtv14:08
Jucatodbmoodb:, qubuntu: http://ubuntudemon.wordpress.com/2007/10/26/laptop-hardrive-killer-bug/14:08
dbmoodbjuscato i know14:09
Jucato!info xawtv14:09
ubotuxawtv: X11 TV application. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.95.dfsg.1-6ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 241 kB, installed size 704 kB14:09
qubuntudbmoodb: can do me a favor to write down more details?14:09
mark__it can't find it though14:09
Jucato"laptop-mode is disabled by default. If you have enabled laptop-mode (in /etc/default/acpi-support) you should definitely disable it!"14:09
dbmoodbyou just modify the -B to be -25414:09
dbmoodbah jucato that is not at solution14:09
Jucatoyep, just wondering about your early advice.. don't have a laptop anyway :P14:10
Jucato(lucky people...)14:10
qubuntudbmoodb: what's that mean by 254?14:10
Jucatoor I have a laptop.. but... well...14:10
lg188? know how to fix my problem ?14:10
qubuntuJucato : u just simply shutdown that function?14:11
dbmoodbpretty much14:11
Jucatoaccording to that blog... but I wouldnt know :)14:11
dbmoodbq on a laptop ?14:11
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qubuntuI dont want it, for i may use my batter sometimes14:12
jussi01!away > mohi|afk14:12
mohi|afkjussi01: ooh! sorry... ;)14:12
jussi01mohi|afk: :)14:13
qubuntuit seems that im nuts to open the laptop mode, i think14:14
qubuntuJucato ,dbmoodb: but i need it14:14
qubuntuJucato ,dbmoodb: set -B to -254?14:15
dbmoodbone sec14:15
Jucatoqubuntu: ask dbmoodb, I don't know anything about it14:15
dbmoodblet me check14:15
dbmoodbfirst i want you to check something14:15
qubuntuJucato ,dbmoodb: check what?14:15
dbmoodbi recommend you do a sudo apt-get install smartmontools14:15
ForgeAuscan I configure my trash so that files I send there are instantly deleted rather than stored in a "recycle bin" like way?14:15
qubuntuJucato ,dbmoodb: i did14:16
dbmoodbthen run sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda|grep 19314:16
Jucatoqubuntu: please stop asking me, coz I don't know14:16
JucatoForgeAus: Shift+Del?14:16
dbmoodbso you can see the number14:16
qubuntuJucato :sorry14:16
ForgeAusJucato that doesn't work when I drag and drop to trash icon does it?14:17
ForgeAusie you suggest I shift del or rightclick and delete it that way rather than dragging to trash?14:17
Jucatoof course.. because you're moving to the trash... unless your trash has a gaping hole, then it'd be moved to the trash :)14:17
qubuntudbmoodb: no number there14:17
dbmoodbops ah ...14:17
JucatoForgeAus: yep. if you're sure you don't need it14:17
ForgeAusI have my windows recycle bin as a delete rather than a storage area14:18
qubuntudbmoodb: when i run :sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | grep Load_Cycle_Count, it show the number 1404214:18
Jucatothis isn't exactly windows.. so I'm not sure it will behave like windows everytime :)14:18
Jucatomaybe there's a feature.. but so far haven't seen one :)14:18
dbmoodboh ok14:19
dbmoodbhow old is the laptop qu14:19
qubuntudbmoodb: then seconds later the number become 1405014:19
dbmoodbah crap14:19
* emilsedgh gives a piece of cake to Jucato14:19
dbmoodb- yes it appear you are affected14:19
Jucatoemilsedgh: thanks.. but I'm a bit Vista right now14:20
Jucatoer.. I meant "bloated"14:20
ubotuvista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org and !windows14:20
emilsedghJucato: :P14:20
ubotuFor discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents14:20
qubuntudbmoodb: what should I do , friend?14:21
qubuntudbmoodb: what should I do , friend?14:21
qubuntudbmoodb: too bad to choose vista14:22
dbmood1one sec14:22
dbmood1ok well is your disk hda or sda ?14:22
qubuntudbmoodl: sda14:23
qubuntudbmoodl: is there any difference?14:23
dbmood1hdparm -B 254 /dev/sda14:23
dbmood1and edit14:23
qubuntui have set power.sh to 25514:24
dbmood1you can try 25514:25
qubuntudbmoodl: what that mean?14:25
dbmood1hdparm -B 255 /dev/sda then14:25
dbmood1that means turn off power saving features - pretty much14:25
dbmood1 A value of 255 will disable apm on the drive.14:25
dbmood1and /dev/sda is obviously the disk drive in question.14:25
daniel100119What is the recommend way of installing acrobat reader on kubuntu? Should I use Automatix or can you recommend any repository?14:27
parkinhow do i turn on radio wifi on my a6vm laptop? in windows Fn + F2 doe- it14:27
LjL!automatix | daniel10011914:27
ubotudaniel100119: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »14:27
LjLdaniel100119: unfortunately, there is not an official acrobat package anymore, because (i think) of legal reasons.14:27
llutzdaniel100119: try kpdf  and see if you miss something14:27
LjLdaniel100119: there might be some unofficial ones floating on the web14:27
qubuntudbmoodl:/dev/sda: Permission denied14:27
dbmood1qubuntu: ok so re run sudo smartctl -a /dev/hda | grep Load_Cycle_Count14:28
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org14:28
jussi01daniel100119: ^14:28
dbmood1ah i meant sudo ...14:28
LjLjussi01: it's there? i missed it last time i checked14:28
dbmood1 sudo hdparm -B 255 /dev/sda14:28
dbmood1then compare the output - it should stop rising rapidly14:28
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jussi01LjL: http://www.medibuntu.org/packages.php14:29
daniel100119LjL: thanks!14:29
qubuntudbmoodl:/dev/sda:  setting Advanced Power Management level to disabled14:29
qubuntui used sudo14:29
mark__is there a main universe repo?14:30
LjLdaniel100119: use the repository jussi01 said, it's a pretty reliable one. i missed it completely... probably i had only checked letter "a" under "free" =)14:30
LjLmark__: "main" is a repo, and "universe" is another. which do you want?14:30
LjLwell, they're components actually14:30
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu14:30
mark__i can't find packages i'm looking for14:30
LjLmark__: which?14:30
daniel100119LjL: what did you mean by "/msg ubotu WorksForMe"?14:31
dbmoodboh ..14:31
mark__well i search in synaptic for dvb and it comes up with nothing14:31
dbmoodbyou used sudo14:31
LjLdaniel100119: that you can type that command, and have ubotu be more verbose to use about a general reason why things like automatix are not necessarily good (and in this case specifically, they're pretty pretty bad)14:31
LjL!find dvb14:31
ubotuFound: dvb-utils, dvbackup, dvbsnoop, dvbstream, dvbtune (and 6 others)14:31
dbmoodbso what was it before and now wait a few seconds to a minute14:31
qubuntudbmoodl: added 1-2 per second14:31
LjLdaniel100119: please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file14:31
dbmoodbare you sure ?14:32
qubuntudbmoodl: now it is 1410014:32
mark__mine finds none of them14:33
dbmoodbdid the command sudo -B 255 /dev/sda work ?14:33
qubuntudbmoodl: something wrong?14:33
dbmoodbyes it is still increasing no14:33
daniel100119What is ubotu?14:33
dbmoodba bot14:33
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots14:33
dbmoodbmmm try  hdparm -B254 /dev/sda14:34
mark__is there a repository i'm missing?14:34
qubuntudbmoodl: let me try……14:34
stmartinHi! I wanna ask you how to safely plug-out flash memory on kubuntu?14:34
dbmoodbthen compare the numbers for the hard disk again14:34
LjLmark__:  please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file (sorry daniel100119, that wasn't intended for you)14:34
jpatrickstmartin: plug it in and it should detect it for you14:35
daniel100119LjL: no problem14:35
stmartinbut how to unplug it safely?14:35
stmartinright click/ unmount?14:35
jpatrickstmartin: yes14:35
stmartinI have other question14:35
stmartinI have dual-boot (win xp and ubuntu)14:35
stmartinhow can I see the disk drives C: and D: via ubuntu?14:36
jpatrickyes again!14:36
LjL!windowsdrivers | stmartin14:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about windowsdrivers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:36
LjL!windowsdrives | stmartin14:36
ubotustmartin: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE14:36
qubuntudbmoodl: then 14111  -----then it works: still 1411114:36
dbmoodbmmm - does ntfs-3g come stock in ubuntu gutsy ?14:36
qubuntudbmoodl: thanx!!!!14:36
dbmoodb- yeah ah make the power.sh 254 , 255 doesn't work on all drives14:37
stmartinbut they don't want to be mount14:37
qubuntudbmoodl: what's more about the mode? no disadvantage?14:37
mark__www.pastebin.com ?14:38
dbmoodbno it is virtually disabled but not14:38
LjL!paste | mark__14:38
ubotumark__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)14:38
dbmoodbsome drives will not let you -255 that is all14:38
qubuntudbmoodl: definitly, it works now. thanks! is the setting enough?14:40
dbmoodbah yeah14:40
dbmoodbmake the change in power.sh14:40
dbmoodband be aware that if you use suspend a lot you should probably use hdparm to set it up so it doesn't exit that mode14:41
qubuntuis that mean i cant your my laptop batter?14:41
mark__LjL: how bad is it?14:41
LjLmark__: one second, i was busy with something else14:42
dbmoodbno i mean do you use suspend ...14:42
mark__LjL: no problem14:42
dbmoodbit is a state of low power usage14:42
Jucatomark__: you just need to disable the cdrom repository14:42
qubuntudbmoodl: sometimes14:42
LjLmark__: it is pretty bad, because almost everything is commented out. the easiest thing to do is to generate a new list, this site can do it automatically14:43
LjL!easysource > mark__    (mark__, see the private message from Ubotu)14:43
Jucatooh yeah....14:43
dbmoodband no - i personally can't be bothered to change if for when i do use that + it seems to be fine to me anyway14:43
* Jucato gave that link to him already though... but anyway...14:43
dbmoodbwell don't worry about it too much qu - most of the time you will be set now, when you supend something the -B 254 will be removed (from working) - so you might want to just issue a sudo hdparm -B 254 /dev/sda after you return from suspending or just install hdparm and configure it14:44
qubuntudbmoodl: lucky man14:44
qubuntudbmoodl: at lest, the number will not rise when i run the command14:47
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flakehow can I make my Start key on my keyboard 'sticky' instead of acting like a fire button.. ultimate goal is to pull up the k-menu using the key14:47
qubuntudbmoodl: after the suspend i only need to run the command…that's ok14:47
dbmoodbah and if you have it in power.sh it is set for when you boot up / use the computer - apparently (i have not tested) suspending and rsuming removed the setting (-b 254)14:48
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mark__LjL: thank you so much14:48
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qubuntudbmoodl: i will miss "suspending" anyway14:49
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jussi01!nickspam > jonoinemailhell14:54
qubuntudbmoodb: the number still there. more: will it be changed roughly when I use windows xp in the same computer?14:54
Jucatojussi01: lol you just nickspam'ed jono :P14:54
jonoinemailhelljussi01: oops14:55
Jucatojonoinemailhell: you kinda lose track of how many channels you're in  after a while :P14:55
dbmoodboh sorry q- didn't see hat q - ah do you mean when you use windows xp - nar windows overrides the hd's setting anyway (or so i believe)14:58
stfHi. I deleted important files with rm. Can I undelete them? My fs is ext3.15:01
qubuntudbmoodb: yes15:07
qubuntudbmoodb: does the setting work for both OS ? you said it is wrote in the power.sh, why not the BIOS?or will the problem ocurs in the windows ?15:10
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buzkillingtoncan anyone help me find my ntfs drives?15:22
cammelciao a tutti15:24
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jpatrick!it | cammel15:24
ubotucammel: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!15:24
qubuntu_0dbmoodb: still there? im back15:25
stfI deleted some important files with rm. Is there any way to undelete them? Other than grepping /dev/hda2 (I'm doing that right now)15:30
flipmodeI am running 7.10 cant get my dvd or cds to read15:35
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diobolicanybody there? :)15:42
diobolicnobodies home?15:43
jussi01diobolic: yes, Im here, how can i help?15:43
diobolicis this a chatbox?15:44
jpatrickdiobolic: chat goes to #kubuntu-offtopic, this is a support channel15:44
jussi01diobolic: this is the Kubuntu support channel15:44
diobolichow to get to a chatbox?15:44
jpatrickdiobolic: /join #kubuntu-offtopic15:44
diobolicthank you15:44
saurociao a tt15:48
jussi01!it | sauro15:49
ubotusauro: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!15:49
reechAnyone available to help with symlinks-over-samba problem?15:52
voonteHow do I enable colors in the console, at boot when the [ OK ] are shown?15:57
stmartinHow to remove Local Disk and sda1 from Desktop?16:05
jpatrickstmartin: right-click it and configure desktop -> behaviour16:05
onishidatowhich code will we use to open a directory16:06
Gularsvoonte, you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst16:06
jussi01onishidato: in the konsole?16:06
onishidatolike this (/ect/X11/....)16:06
jussi01ie. cd /etc/X1116:07
onishidatoto open it??16:07
voonteGulars, I've set the vga mode in menu.lst, what else do I need to change?16:07
jussi01onishidato: that will take you to it on the command line... try it and see16:08
Gularsthis line: #color cyan/blue white/blue16:08
voonteDoesn't that just change the colors in the grub menu?16:09
Gulars(ie: remove the hash mark)16:09
tininwill kubuntu 8.04 include kde 4.1?16:09
Gularswasn't that what you asked?16:09
jpatricktinin: no, KDE4.1 will be end around end of year16:09
voonteGulars, no hehe. I meant the text when different modules are being loaded and displayed a [ OK ] when it's done.16:10
Gularsoh, or are you thinking about the boot-messages (your not using usplash?)?16:10
onishidatojussi01 thanks16:10
jussi01onishidato: :)16:10
voonteGulars, I'll take a look at usplash thanks16:11
onishidatoand jussi01: can you tell me how to create a new folder?? with console16:11
jussi01onishidato: mkdir foldername16:11
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal16:12
Gularsvoonte, that's just for not displaying the messages (ie: showing the kubuntu logo instead)16:12
onishidatojussi01: i'm newbie here :)16:12
jussi01onishidato: thats fine. see the message from the bot ^^:)16:12
GularsI'm thinking along the lines of looking at he init scripts, but really I don't know16:12
voonteGulars, ok, then that's not what I want. I suppose usplash is similar to gentoo's gensplash then. I found the /lib/lsb/init-functions which has the color stuff16:13
voontealso had support for "fancy" output, that might be what I'm looking for16:13
onishidatojussi01: thnks16:15
onishidatojussi01: :)16:15
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Gularsvoonte, interesting  - will check that out myself ;)16:20
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stmartinwhere I can see my swap partition?16:23
Sbucatonehello i can't upload files with konqueror to mediafire.com ....sigh16:23
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Sbucatonestmartin: go in system settings16:23
wernerstmartin: > free16:24
wernerstmartin: (or, "man free")16:25
stmartinhow I will be sure that my swap is installed correctly?16:26
stmartinwhy I have /dev/sda6 none swap sw 0 0?16:26
Jucato"none" there means that it doesn't have a mount point16:27
wernerstmartin: this entry in fstab seems to be correct. type " free" in the shell and take a look ...16:27
Jucato"swap" means that it's a swap-type, "sw" is the swap option16:27
flakeanyone running kooldock?16:28
stmartinand how to make it be mounted on boot?16:28
stmartinor how to recognize, if it is mounted on boot?16:29
Jucato[00:28] <werner> stmartin: this entry in fstab seems to be correct. type " free" in the shell and take a look ...16:29
stmartinyes, I did it16:29
stmartinSwap:      1020088          0    102008816:29
wernerstmartin: fine, everythings ok.16:29
krokodilstmartin: mounting your swap !!!16:29
stmartinit is ok16:29
Jucatoso it's mounted. it's automatically done by the system16:29
Jucatoer.. not "mounted"..16:30
wernerif you ahve an entry in fstab it will be mounted automatically at boot-time16:30
stmartinand how to see if it is mounted on the start?16:30
Jucatoit's enabled :)16:30
stmartinhow to know if all drives are mounted on the start?16:31
werner(or you can take a look at swapoff and swapon, but be careful, if you do not know, what you are doing,16:31
Jucatostmartin: did something happen that makes you worry that it's not activated during boot?16:31
stmartinjust, I want to know it16:31
wernerJucato: good question ...16:31
wernerstmartin: read a book :-)16:31
stmartinI don't know which is booted and which not16:32
stmartinactually, I am not sure16:32
voontehard to convince :)16:32
stmartinany help?16:32
werneryou saw the output of "free". you are sure now. :-)16:32
stmartinand for / and /home?16:33
werneror maybe you want to use something like "xosview" . nive tool for X.16:33
wernerstmartin: " mount "16:33
Jucatostmartin: those with "defaults" are mounted at boot if I recall correctly16:33
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions16:33
krokodildoes anyone know why a "su - usera" when logged as usera nedd passwd ?16:34
Lynourekrokodil: why would you need to do that?16:35
stmartinHow I can recognize them, that are booted up when Linux starts?16:35
stmartinthere should be 0 0 or 1 1 or what?16:35
krokodilLynoure : that's not the question :-)16:35
voontestmartin, as werner wrote, type "moun"16:35
voontesorry, "mount"16:35
wernermaybe this may help you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo16:35
wernerkrokodil: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo16:36
Lynourekrokodil: the answer: because that's how  su  works16:36
Jucatostmartin: read the link about fstab16:36
Jucatostmartin: and no, the last 2 digits on each line have nothing to do about mounting16:36
stmartinI receive this16:36
stmartinJucato I read that, and I didn't find information16:37
krokodilLynoure : maybe you'r right, but it seems to be different in other distrib...16:37
Lynourekrokodil: that's why I wanted to know why you need to do it...  If it is in some script, just make it check for which user it's being run as, and not do  su  if you don't need to16:37
krokodili'd like to be sure...16:37
Jucatostmartin: really? "defaults Uses the default options that are rw, suid, dev, exec, auto, nouser, and async."16:37
Jucatostmartin: then "auto and noauto With the auto option, the device will be mounted automatically (at bootup, just like I told you a bit earlier, or when you issue the mount -a command). auto is the default option. "16:38
wernerstmartin: maybe you want to read https://help.ubuntu.com/16:38
stmartinand what is (rw,errors=remount-ro)?16:38
krokodilLynoure : i agree, thanks !16:38
Jucatostmartin: I don't have to post every paragraph in that page do I? :)16:38
stmartinok, sorry16:39
Jucatostmartin: a quick google search on "errors=remount-ro" yields this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31585016:39
Lynourekrokodil: you are welcome.  by the way, if you use  su  with - and not with -l, it's a bit picky and wants the - to be the last su option (at least officially)16:39
krokodilLynoure : ok :) i have to leave, bye all16:40
Daisuke_Idosome days i hate linux...16:41
Daisuke_Idostuck in 640x480 and no matter what i try, i cannot get it to break out of that.16:41
wernerDaisuke_Ido: what the hardware?16:42
stmartinok, thank you very much for the help16:42
stmartinI appreciate your efforts16:42
Daisuke_Idonvidia geforce 7600 GS, using the nvidia driver, and it was working fine before i restarted the machine...  there may have been a kernel update that broke things, perhaps, i don't know.16:43
Daisuke_Idonot a huge deal though, i'm doing a fresh gutsy install once this iso's done downloading anyway16:44
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Jucatotry reconfiguring X... and yeah a new kernel sometimes messes things up16:46
Jucato(you can check in /var/log/ if a new one was installed...)16:46
voonteDoes ubuntu automatically take care of rebuilding the nvidia driver when there's a new kernel update?`16:47
Daisuke_IdoJucato: the reason i was looking at doing a fresh install is because i've been upgrading since edgy16:47
Daisuke_Idovoonte: supposed to16:47
Daisuke_Idoif you install from the repos like you should16:47
Jucatovoonte: if you use the package driver16:47
Daisuke_Idohere goes something...16:50
vbgunzhow do you pipe with grep? e.g., opengl|3d ?16:51
Daisuke_Idookay so i tried everything except the most blindingly obvious possibility16:52
* Daisuke_Ido grumbles16:52
Picivbgunz: depends on what you want to do.16:52
Daisuke_Idothanks for smacking me around and pointing me in the right direction, Jucato :)16:52
vbgunzPici: searching apt-cache for games and trying to filter on either opengl OR 3d16:52
JucatoDaisuke_Ido: reconfigure X?16:53
Daisuke_Idosudo apt-cache search game | grep opengl16:53
Daisuke_Idorepeat with 3d because i'm lazy16:53
wesley_hello i have installed kubuntu again and set a / and a /home and swap and a big partition and set aankoppel point as /media/sda4 but now i want to drop files and its says that i cant acces it16:53
Daisuke_IdoJucato: yep :)16:53
JucatoDaisuke_Ido: sometimes I've dreaded kernel updates just because of that :)16:53
Picivbgunz: ah..:  apt-cache search games | egrep "(opengl|3d)"16:54
vbgunzpici so it does take on regular expressions but it evaluates a string to do so?16:54
Daisuke_Idoah ha16:55
Daisuke_Idolike i said16:55
Daisuke_Ido<-- lazy16:55
vbgunzI admit, I have so much to learn in regards to the shell :/16:55
Daisuke_Idosame here16:55
Picisame here16:55
Daisuke_Idonow to format my new 500gb of happiness16:55
ForgeAusjust for fun: (note this isn't intended as spam... feel free to ignore it: http://chimp-test.com/ )17:02
grandiThis isn't spam, but you really could add inches to your penis size!17:03
bazhangoh my17:03
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jpatrickgrandi: #kubuntu-offtopic please17:04
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Jucato!language | grandi17:04
ubotugrandi: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.17:04
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papoutlut all17:12
_dewdDoes anyone has an fix for the problem with kde filesharing msdfs proxy setting ?17:14
_dewdI saw an patch but this could not be applied some syntax error or something17:14
djvuWhich package contains import/export filters for koffice ? I tried koffice-filter, no such package.17:15
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johnficcawhere do i get a package for or the sources for amarok 2?17:19
parkinhi i can not see any networks in my Knetworkmanager17:21
parkindoesnt work mhen i plug in cable or with wireless17:22
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parkinit used to work with cable but suddenly it didnt17:23
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Daisuke_Idomake sure they aren't listed in /etc/network/interfaces17:23
sylvain_Hi all17:24
sylvain_I try to make a VPN17:24
sylvain_between a Linux OS (Ubuntu) and a Windows XP OS17:25
ubotuFTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd17:26
sigmawhich is the best ftp client for kde?17:26
jpatricksigma: Konqueror?17:26
wesley__wheres that bug fix for kdm theme manager ?17:26
jpatrickwesley__: which bug fix?17:27
parkinDaisuke_Ido what should i do in the /etc/network/interfaces ?17:27
sigmajpatrick: tried that, didnt quite work so well. im looking for something like filezilla, but in qt17:27
wesley__a bug that prevents you from setting new themes'17:27
jpatrickwesley__: I uploaded the new version to hardy less than a week ago17:28
jpatricksigma: not sure then17:28
jpatricksigma: I'm a ssh guy :)17:28
wesley__yes but i use gutys17:29
jpatrickwesley__: I'll ask for a backport17:29
wesley__okay is it stable?17:29
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sylvain_TPEhi all17:29
jpatrickwesley__: backports = gutsy packages17:30
wesley__i know17:30
sylvain_TPEI try to make a VPN between a Linux OS (ubuntu) and a Windows XP OS17:30
jpatrickwesley__: gimme a few minutes and I'll have it done17:30
wesley__is that pack one deb?17:30
wesley__okay thats cool17:30
ubuntu_hy all17:30
Lynouresylvain_TPE: That's a good idea. Any difficulties with it?17:31
sylvain_TPEI am searching for a software which could be the same in the two OS17:31
sigmajpatrick: lol whats the difference? i hear alot of people talking about ssh. never heard of it before17:32
Lynouresylvain_TPE: you don't really need same software, just compatible software...17:32
sylvain_TPELynoure: yes, It could work17:33
jpatricksigma: it gives you the terminal you get with Konsole, etc on the server17:33
sylvain_TPEBut I think it's even better if I find a software which works on the two OS : the same config, the same parameters...17:34
Lynouresylvain_TPE: openswan is common ipsec implementation on Linux, and works with WinXPs build-in ipsec17:34
parkinwhy does it have to be such a havvle to set up a simple wireless network17:34
sylvain_TPELynoure: openswan you said ? OK thanks, I'm going to install and try it.17:34
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jpatrickOpheLia: hello17:36
jpatrick!es | OpheLia17:36
ubotuOpheLia: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.17:36
sigmahello XadVio17:41
XadViohow are you this morning17:42
sigmaits night time here:)17:42
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wesley_jpatrick have you already set kdm theme manager from hardy to gutsy back ports?17:45
jpatrickwesley_: I have filled the bug report, need for an archive admin to put the source in place17:46
wesley_okay so it will be probably in a few dayes in the updates?17:46
jpatrickwesley_: in gutsy-backports17:46
wesley_yes i have back-ports on17:47
jpatrickwesley_: wait a day or two :)17:50
ardchoilleIs it possible to get a listing of just the apps which are available on gutsy-backports?17:51
mathias_is there any better program for msn messenger than kopete ?17:51
emilsedghmathias_: amsn17:52
ardchoillemathias_: If you're having trouble connecting kopete to msn, try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade", there is a bug that cause kopete's problem with msn and an upgrade fixed it for many folks.17:52
jpatrickardchoille: display all repos and have just backports enabled? :)17:52
ardchoillejpatrick: That'll work, ty17:53
mathias_ardchoille: only looking 4 a nicer app for it17:53
bazhangkopete is far superior imo17:53
marioctI've downloaded kubunutu 7.10, but I need the md5 checksum and I cant find it anywhere17:53
marioctanyone knows where in the kubuntu website are the md5 checksums?17:54
ardchoillemarioct: http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/gutsy/MD5SUMS17:54
jpatrickmarioct: or http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/gutsy/17:55
mathias_when i run firefox in windows i use ie-tab for som pages. is there anything like that for firefox in linux ?18:00
marioct_hello guys.18:01
coreymon77mathias_: its impossible for that to exist by definition18:01
ardchoillemathias_: Not usre if it's the same, but there is a nice firefox extension called Tab Mix Plus18:01
coreymon77mathias_: ietab really just opens the page with ie and then sticks it in a tab18:02
mathias_ardchoille:   i will try that18:02
coreymon77mathias_: so, by definition, its impossible to have ietab on linux18:02
coreymon77i just use the user agent switcher extension18:03
mathias_coreymon77:  i figuerd.. but i want somthing that can read those pages that mozilla dont do18:03
asktobyIs there a character map available? I'm not finding anything in the menus, regional settings, or adept.18:03
coreymon77because most sites that say they will only work with ie are just lying18:04
hydrogen.. or are using activex controls18:04
coreymon77mathias_: theyre just being lazy so that if their site is crappy, they can blame it on the browser18:04
mathias_ardchoille:   i cant find tab mix plus in adept ?18:04
mathias_Totaly newbie18:04
bazhangtoo true coreymon7718:04
coreymon77mathias_: 99% of the time all you need to do is make the site think that you are using ie and it works perfectly18:05
ardchoillemathias_: After reading what coreymon77 said, I don't think tab mix plus does what you want.18:05
coreymon77mathias_: firefox extensions are not on adept, they are on the firefox website18:05
mathias_coreymon77:  well lazy or not i still want to use the page18:06
asktobyOr, failing a charmap, does anyone know how to enter a german estset? (looks a bit like a B)18:06
bazhangmathias_: go add it as its easy to do--almost no effort required :}18:06
coreymon77mathias_: as i said, 99% of the time all you need to do is trick the site into thinking you are using ie and it works18:06
ardchoillemathias_: If you're interested, it's here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/112218:06
coreymon77ardchoille: thats not what he wants18:07
coreymon77mathias_: why do you need ie, does the site just tell you that it requires ie, or is there another reason18:08
coreymon77mathias_: are activex controls used?18:08
coreymon77bazhang: user agent switcher works pretty much all the time for me18:08
mathias_coreymon77: some options dosnt work in firefox18:08
asktobyNever mind - I found a ß on the internet and can now copy/paste it!18:08
coreymon77mathias_: such as?18:09
coreymon77mathias_: and what site is this?18:09
mathias_coreymon77: www.x40nordic.com18:09
bazhangcoreymon77: same here--its awesome18:09
coreymon77mathias_: as i said, what options are we talking about here18:10
mathias_coreymon77:  some menyes dsnt show and it dosnt show new post  and pm18:10
coreymon77bazhang: what do you think, would user agent work?18:11
coreymon77personally, i boycott any site who hasnt gotten with the program by now18:12
bazhangcoreymon77: that site above? yeah no worries :} just loaded it up fine18:12
coreymon77firefox is not an unkown unused browser anymore18:13
ardchoillemathias_: That site works quite well here in firefox on Gutsy18:13
coreymon77you see18:13
coreymon77works fine18:13
ardchoilleAnd I don't use any extensions18:13
bazhangmathias_: try the addon and see if you agree; I got it going without and with :}18:13
bazhangcoreymon77: did you drop a 7 from your nick? :}18:15
mathias_well it loks ok .. b'ut when u are a member u have som menys  lik pm and stuff that dont work (Har to axplain with my crappy english)18:15
coreymon77its always been like this18:15
bazhangoh sorry I thought it was 777 in the past my bad coreymon7718:15
tlaytonmathias_: coming in on the middle of this conversation, but you could try ies4linux http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page18:16
bazhangmathias_: have you tried the extension yet?18:16
coreymon77anyone want to try out making an account for the site?18:16
coreymon77well, i checked on bugmenot for an account and no luck, so oh well18:18
ardchoillemathias_: What is your native language? Perhaps someone in a loco channel can help you further with this?18:20
judgenwhat is the command to use compiz with kwin? kwin --replace &compiz?18:20
coreymon77oh well18:23
coreymon77the bell just rang18:23
coreymon77i have to get back to class18:23
tlaytonjudgen: install fusion-icon from the repos, then you can start compiz from the tray icon18:23
coreymon77bazhang: good luck with mathias_18:24
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judgentlayton, thanks18:24
stmartinhi! I want to ask you how to copy file through the terminal?18:24
bazhangcoreymon77: have a good class!18:24
jasmin_fdoving: you there18:24
judgentlayton,  no such package18:24
jasmin_stmartin: cp is to copy a file18:25
tlaytonjudgen: hmm, i'm in hardy. maybe it's just in the hardy repos. there's a ppa for it, but i don't have that link right now.18:25
judgeni have a tray icon for compiz. but that only lets me select metacity18:27
bazhang!info fusion-icon18:27
mathias_ardchoille:  swedish :)18:27
ubotuPackage fusion-icon does not exist in gutsy18:27
stmartinok thanks18:28
mathias_bazhang:  i dont know how to install :s18:28
bazhangmathias_: do you have the link?  go to it and click on install, then restart firefox18:29
mathias_bazhang: it says save as or open with18:29
tlaytonjudgen: do you have compiz-kde and/or emerald installed?18:29
ardchoille!swedish | mathias_18:30
ubotumathias_: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se18:30
judgenonly compiz-gnome.. i use gnome but i like kwin better18:30
bazhangmathias_: um dont download it (right click) just left click it18:30
judgenand i have emerald installed18:30
mathias_ubotu:  tnx18:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tnx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:30
ardchoille!thanks | mathias_18:30
ubotumathias_: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)18:30
mathias_bazhang:  i do rightklick then i got those options18:31
stmartinwhat is the command to delete file?>18:31
bazhangjudgen: if you want to search for a package, you can apt-cache search fusion and see what that brings up in the terminal18:31
ardchoillestmartin: rm18:31
judgenim going to try deleting metacity and emerald and see where that gets me18:31
judgenbazhang, i know18:31
bazhangmathias do not right click--left click18:31
hoens`rZhow do i install nforce 630a geforce 7025 drivers on kubuntu?18:32
mathias_bazhang:  i know.. i do rigt klick18:32
ardchoille!nvidia | hoens`rZ18:32
ubotuhoens`rZ: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto18:32
bazhangmathias_: do not right click do not18:32
mathias_gahh sory .. i mean i dont ..18:33
jasmin_stmartin: rm is to delete18:33
bazhangmathias_: left click to install it then restart firefox end of story18:33
jasmin_stmartin: why dont you read the linux beginners guide18:33
ardchoillestmartin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal18:34
stmartinok, thanks.18:34
bazhangstmartin: do you have a prominent search engine available? there are many links there :}18:34
jasmin_stmartin: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/basic-commands/C18:35
mathias_bazhang: i dont get the option install..18:35
bazhanghttps://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59 mathias_ go here and click on the green bar that says install now--this has to be in firefox and not ie by the way18:37
marius__hi to all18:38
marius__my amarok just crush18:38
marius__how can i fix it18:38
mathias_bazhang:  whn i do i get18:39
mathias_Open 'http://releases.mo...10-fx+mz+sm+fl.xpi'?18:39
mathias_Type: application/octet-stream18:39
mathias_save as   open with  cancel18:39
bazhangin internet explorer or firefox?18:40
mathias_omg .. wait18:41
mathias_bazhang:  im so stupis .. when i follo'wed the link i didnt open firefox :)18:41
mathias_bur konquereo18:42
bazhangmathias_: haha well try it now--it should work :}18:42
mathias_bazhang:  yes :) how do i set firefox as defaul browser18:42
bazhangmathias_: lets get this first problem sorted out okay?18:43
Jeroimathias_ tou just open konversation: then form there usegustom browser %firefox18:45
bazhangmathias_: I have to run now; that should get you going for now--good luck!18:46
ibilichi, when I do dpkg --configure -a, I get:18:46
JeroiI mean open konversation settings18:46
ibilicCao Beko,18:46
ibilicKao sto si procitala iz poruke dole, dolazi mi drug iz Montreala,18:46
ibilicostaje 5 meseci, hoce da nauci srpski pa me je pitao da li znam neke18:46
ibilicljude iz Beograda da ga upoznam. Pa ako hoces upoznaj ga i pozovi18:46
ibilicnekad kad izlazis negde, znam da si radila sa strancima ranije i da si18:46
ibilicvoljna da se druzis. Ako ne, nema veze, zaboravi, nema ljutis :)18:46
ibilicAjde pozdrav i pisi sta ima novo,18:46
ibilicinvoke-rc.d: initscript vmware-server, action "start" failed.18:46
ibilicdpkg: error processing vmware-server (--configure):18:46
ibilic subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 118:46
ibilicErrors were encountered while processing:18:46
ibilic vmware-server18:46
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jpatrick!pl | ibilic18:47
ubotuibilic: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl18:47
jpatrick!paste | ibilic18:47
ubotuibilic: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)18:47
ibilichow do I fix that? every time I try to run Adept, it crashes18:47
Jeroialso you can make default browser for KDE going to system settings, from there default aplications18:47
Riddell** candidate CD testers needed http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all cdimages.ubuntu.com18:47
ardchoilleRiddell: Thanks :)18:48
jpatrick!adeptfix > ibilic18:48
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lancelot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:55
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about plasma - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:56
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progreSSivehi everybody18:57
progreSSivei have this problem with my video-card18:57
progreSSivewhen i turn the computer on18:57
progreSSiveand kubuntu is loading18:57
progreSSiveit just stops18:57
progreSSiveand is not responding to anything18:57
progreSSivebut windows is loading okay18:58
ardchoille!enter | progreSSive18:58
ubotuprogreSSive: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!18:58
progreSSivewhat can it be? :)18:58
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progreSSiveso any suggestions on my problem??19:00
progreSSivedamn, 343 nicks, and everybody's dead19:01
tlaytonprogreSSive: before or after logging in?19:02
progreSSiveduring load19:02
progreSSivebefore logging in, after the grub is out, and i chose kubuntu, and it loads about 15% and that's it19:03
tlaytonprogreSSive: this happens to me every 22 reboots. fsck runs, but there is no indicator letting you know except the blank screen.19:03
progreSSiveno it happened to me after i added this new video-card19:04
tlaytonprogreSSive: and, at least for me, fsck can take up to twenty minutes. try logging in recovery mode to see what it's telling you19:04
progreSSiveand i rebooted several times, but when i take it off, it loads ok19:04
progreSSivetlayton, i'm sorry, but what is fsck? :)19:05
ardchoilleprogreSSive: fsck - check and repair a Linux file system19:06
progreSSiveardchoille, and how do i run it?19:06
progreSSiveardchoille, because i cannot get my computer on with the video-card in19:06
ardchoilleprogreSSive: man fsck  I don't use it often enough to assist, so I can only point to the man page)19:07
progreSSiveardchoille, thanks anyways :) but i only see the grub page, and while loading, the computer stops responding, and i'm not able to run any commands or even use the keyboard19:08
tlaytonprogreSSive: try the recovery mode in grub19:08
progreSSivetlayton, ok, i'll try to reboot now :) thanks man! appreciate! be back in like 10-15 minutes, and hope with good news :)19:09
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acc-akuthi, if the next kubuntu is with kde 4 and NOT lts, when will come the next kubuntu lts? thx4hp19:15
ibiliccan someone please have a look at this?19:15
vbgunz_anybody know why my internet connection could fail randomly? I mean, "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" brings it back up quickly **but** why does it just stop working?19:16
afikarthi everybody, I have a question for you, someone can help me ?19:19
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nils_hmm I can't get the system to install the ati drivers for X11, when I click "Administrator Mode" in the Restricted Drivers section, it doesn't do anything just revert back to the non-admin mode...19:26
nils_can I install the drivers manually or via apt?19:26
ForgeAusyou install them by adept nils19:29
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto19:29
nicobrainspricht man hier deutsch oder englisch, anybody speak german?19:30
nils_ForgeAus: yeah it's just that the suggested way doesn't work19:30
jpatrick!de | nicobrain19:30
ubotunicobrain: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de19:30
nicobraindanke, schönen abend noch.19:30
Greenerynils_: when u switch to admin mode for the restrivted driver, did it ask for pass?19:32
nils_Greenery: no it doesn't, that's the problem.19:32
nils_ah ok after installing them manually via apt-get I can select the driver in restricted-manager19:36
snarksterdoes ubuntu suppot any webcams outta the box, or do i have to compile the drivers?19:39
Pici!webcam | snarkster19:39
ubotusnarkster: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras19:39
snarksterduh shoulda checked that first19:39
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snarksterok so im on the webcam page, I did lsusb and my webcam is a Logitech Quickcam Pro usb id 046d:d001 that is not listed on the page.. any other clues?19:49
snarksterits an ancient camera19:49
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ibilicwhat's the difference between purging a package and removing a package?19:52
tlaytonibilic: purging removes any leftover config files19:54
trappistibilic: purging also removes "configuration" files, which includes things like init scripts19:55
nils_hmm is there a special kernel for SMP or is it enabled by default?19:55
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)19:55
trappistbasically anything flagged by the package as a config file19:55
trappistnils_: SMPness is now determined at boot time19:55
ibilicI have a problem with vmware-server... should I purge it and install it again? or is that useless?19:55
trappistso you don't need a special SMP kernel19:55
trappistibilic: depends on the problem19:55
nils_trappist: currently only shows me one cpu in /proc/cpuinfo19:55
ibilictrappist:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51381/19:56
trappistnils_: last time I had that problem I eventually learned one of my CPU slots was a dummy slot :/19:56
nils_trappist: hehe. It's dualcore19:56
nils_trappist: hopefully there is no dummy core ;)19:56
trappistibilic: looks like maybe you need to run vmware-config.pl19:57
trappistibilic: which requires packages like build-essential and linux-headers19:57
trappistibilic: at least, that's what I'd say if you'd installed vmware from the tarball.  I've never used the package myself.19:57
ibilicI have both build-essential and linux-headers... now how do I run vmware-config.pl?19:59
Jeroiwhy konversation dont allow dcc send from user?19:59
JeroiIt says "connection refused"19:59
trappistibilic: again, I'm speaking from tarball experience, but "sudo vmware-config.pl"19:59
JeroiI have active network, so no passive method19:59
Francois-Xavierin french20:00
trappistJeroi: one or the other of you is probably going through a firewall20:00
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.20:00
Jeroiwell passive can connet to active user20:00
JeroiI have autoaccept20:00
stmartinwhy in Applications--->System Tools---->NTFS Configuration Tool, it gives me to enable read/write for all drives?20:00
trappiststmartin: why not?20:01
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trappiststmartin: ntfs was read-only in linux for a long time.  there are some caveats with enabling read-write, but it's available, so it's optional.20:02
stmartini want to choose only sda120:02
stmartinnot all20:02
ibilictrappist: it doesn't work... I'll just purge it20:02
robot_jesustrappist as in trappist monk ?20:02
trappiststmartin: do you have other ntfs partitions?20:02
trappistrobot_jesus: yeah, like that20:02
trappistrobot_jesus: not a monk though, just a beer fan20:02
stmartin2 partitions20:02
stmartinsda1 and sda520:02
trappiststmartin: might need to handle that manually via /etc/fstab20:02
stmartinwhat to do in there?20:03
trappiststmartin: or there might be somewhere else to do one at a time, I dunno, I don't have any ntfs partitions20:03
Greeneryremove the partition that u dont wantto read/write20:03
robot_jesustrappist: me too :)20:03
stmartinGreenery: how?20:03
trappiststmartin: you could enable it on all, see what it does in fstab, then disable all and duplicate the change for the one you want20:03
robot_jesustrappist: have you tried leffe ?20:03
robot_jesuswhats your favorite trappist beer :)20:04
trappistrobot_jesus: it's not a trappist ale, and this is offtopic, but yes :)20:04
stmartininstead of ntfs-3g, what to write?20:04
nils_[    0.000000] WARNING: NR_CPUS limit of 1 reached.  Processor ignored.20:04
nils_and there it is20:04
trappistrobot_jesus: #kubuntu-offtopic20:04
Greeneryon terminal type this: kdesu kate /etc/fstab20:04
Greenerythen remove the partiton that u dont want to read/write20:05
Greenerybut make a backup first20:05
trappistnils_: woah20:05
nils_whoever compiled that was on drugs.20:05
stmartinI opened fstab file20:05
snarksterwhat is the package name for build-essentials?20:06
trappistsnarkster: build-essential20:07
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)20:07
trappistnils_: what version of ubuntu are you running?20:07
nils_trappist: 7.1020:07
trappistnils_: I only have dual core, and my /proc/cpuinfo shows both cores... you're not running a weird kernel, are you?20:08
nils_trappist: obviously I do, but that one was installed by default20:08
trappistnils_: I have no guesses for you.  I'm running the default gutsy kernel too, and I have two entries in my cpuinfo.20:09
nils_hmm there is an -386 kernel and a generic kernel, generic uses both cores20:09
trappistI'm running -generic20:09
trappistguess that explains it20:09
rjbhi 1 q'n: dcop ksmserver ksmserver logout 0 2 220:10
rjballows me to shutdown my kde session and halt the machine from a script, right?20:11
nils_now cpufreq doesn't work, strange20:11
trappistrjb: not willing to try it myself, but maybe.  why?20:11
rjb is there a way to hibernate instead of halting? kde 3.5.8 on kubuntu gutsy20:11
trappistrjb: run kdcop and see what's available20:12
nils_This processor "AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dual Core Processor BE-2300" is known _not_ to support power-saving.20:12
nils_only needs 45W anyways20:12
rjbtrappist: what do you mean by why?20:12
rjbtrappist: kdcop won't tell me that20:12
trappistrjb: ah I see, you're right...20:13
ShapeshifterHi. I got s2ram working with s2ram -f -p -m but now I don't get what I need to do so that s2ram runs with those options, too, when I close the lid. Also, there aren't any suspend / hibernate buttons in the logout dialog. How can I set these things up?20:14
rjbthe point is to be able to schedule a shutdown by 'at', for instance20:14
rjbor by kalarm, if one prefers20:15
rjbor if you want to leave a long job running but have the machine go to sleep once it's complete20:16
trappistrjb: looks like hibernate isn't an options20:16
stmartinGreenery thanks. It helped.20:17
trappistrjb: http://developer.kde.org/documentation/library/3.4-api/kdecore/html/classKApplication.html#w3520:17
rjbwhatever, you can invent other use cases20:17
rjbtrappist: http://api.kde.org/3.5-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdecore/html/kapplication_8h-source.html20:17
stmartinGreenery, but why it doesn't give me option to choose in NTFS COnfiguration tool?20:17
rjbis more up to date20:17
rjbbut i know about that20:18
stmartinI have ubuntu 6.06 LST Dapper :)20:18
Greenerystmartin: that i'm not sure, i use the manual configuration only cos auto configuration doesnt work for me20:18
trappistrjb: so, looks like the options are limited there20:18
rjbthe question is, might there be some other way to achieve this20:18
rjbother than calling out to ksmserver from dcop20:18
trappistI'm sure there is, maybe through apic?20:18
Greenerystmartin: just in case u want to read/write the other ntfs partition that u've recently removed, remember the line20:19
theboxmy konquer uninstalled itself and adept is not allowing me to download packagers what do i do?20:19
stmartinGreenery: what happens when u open NTFS Configuration tool?20:19
trappistrjb: maybe /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh20:19
stmartinit gives u 2 options?20:19
rjbtrappist: hmm maybe20:20
Greenerystmartin: NTFS configuration tool won't open, so i have to use manually20:20
stmartinI understand.20:20
Greenerystmartin: so i have no idea how NTFS configuration tool looks like20:20
stmartinhave u ever tried to install it?20:21
rjbbut is that what the power manager kicker applet is using?20:22
Greenerystmartin: recently, no since the manual version works well enough for me20:22
MGalaxywhyis the firefox statusbar so ugly in kubuntu? how can I change it appearance?20:22
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rjbtrappist: hibernate.sh calls /sbin/s2disk, but there is no such file on my system20:23
GreeneryMGalaxy: u could download other skins/themes for ur firefox if ur not satisfied wiotht he default one20:23
theboxkonquer is not working... can someone download smart boot manager and send it to me so i can reinstall kubuntu20:23
trappistrjb: sudo apt-get install uswsusp20:24
rjbhey i think i got it. it seems the power manager also exposes a dcop interface20:24
MGalaxyGreenery: changing the theme doesnt work, in all themes the statusbar is the same20:25
trappistrjb: nice20:25
GreeneryMGalaxy: hmm it shouldn't be20:25
GreeneryMGalaxy: maybe u got extension that uses the statusbar location and has conflicts with the theme20:26
MGalaxyGreenery: let me check, besides, Restart firefox does not work, it only closes FF, any solution?20:28
rjb"dcop $(dcop|grep ^power-manager) power-manager hibernate" is my guess20:28
GreeneryMGalaxy: sorry, have no idea about that20:28
SudoKinghello, is there an opposite of mkpasswd20:31
theboxmy konquer isnt working i need help please20:32
jasmin_more details20:32
rjbSudoKing: haha you wish20:32
theboxit just uninstalled itself20:32
jpatrickthebox: how?20:32
rjbjohn the ripper does a decent job sometimes20:32
theboxand adept manager seems to have broken also20:32
SudoKingguess that takes the meaning out of encrytion?20:32
rjbalso google for rainbow tables20:33
theboxit all started whe i tried to install kde 4 and it went all down hill20:33
jasmin_thebox: well you should not install rc on your working system ever20:33
theboxi know that know ;(20:34
jpatrickthebox: you tried to install Hardy?20:34
theboxmy os is to old.. i need a floppy boot manager program20:35
tlaytonanyone get firefox to print the headers and footers?  this has been around forever for me and haven't been able to find a solution20:35
theboxwell can someone help20:38
noaXessdoes anybody know, why tasksel hangs after installation?20:38
noaXessthebox: whats the problem20:39
theboxi need smart boot manager sent to me because i cant install my cd with isolinux cd20:39
theboxthats what the help file says on th ecd20:39
jasmin_i have a ppp0 connected to the internet i want this connection to be shared via eth1(my wifi as a adhoc )20:40
noaXessthebox: whats about the commands sudo apt-get update20:40
noaXesssudo apt-get upgrade?20:40
theboxhow does sudo work20:41
theboxadept is broken20:41
snarksterthis is a dumb question.. (no such thing) I just checked out the svn trunck for UVC kernel driver.. where did it put the files?20:41
noaXessthebox: to into the konsole and type above command.. and give your own password20:41
noaXess!tell thebox sudo20:41
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ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.20:42
noaXesssky_: hi there20:42
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theboxi cant used konquer it is broken20:42
theboxi cant install programs because adept is broken20:43
Greenerythebox: u dont have konsole?20:43
theboxi do20:43
noaXessthe start it20:43
noaXesskmenu / run command... / and type "konsole"20:43
Greeneryopen konsole and type sudo apt-get upgrade20:43
noaXessGreenery: yeah :)20:44
noaXessGreenery: have you ever used tasksel?20:44
GreenerynoaXess: nope i dont20:44
sky_I have just installed kubuntu.20:45
theboxokay i did that20:45
sky_kopete keeps just going down20:45
theboxhow do i install konquer ... in adept is stays the install is broken20:45
snarksterhmm my kopete is fine.. im talking in it right now20:45
sky_when i try to connect to msn via kopete, it crashes20:45
noaXessthebox: now any error?20:45
Greenerythebox: try update instead of upgrade20:45
snarksterdid you change the server settings?20:46
noaXessthebox: now try the command: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade20:46
noaXessyeah, first update, then upgrade if ther are packages that can be updated.. and last.. dist-upgrade20:46
noaXesssky_: kopete went's down.. what you mean with that?20:47
sky_i keep getting kde crash manager20:47
Greeneryhave u updated recently?20:48
sky_no, just installed20:48
Greeneryupdate ur kubuntu first20:48
sky_ok, have you got a hint of how i cant do that ?20:48
theboxi updated and upgraded20:49
Greenerysky_: goto konsole, type sudo apt-get update20:49
theboxhow do i get konquer to run now20:49
theboxor install konquer from sudo20:49
sky_Thx greenery : nothing to do according to the konsole20:49
noaXessthebox: right... sudo apt-get install packagename20:50
Greenerysky_: kopete still crash?20:50
theboxhow do you spell konquer is that correct20:51
wftlKDE4 RC2 packages still using .kde4?20:51
sky_Greenery : i found a upgrade thing in the package manager20:51
sky_it seams to be working away, ill see after that :)20:51
wftlAnd is there somebody keeping bleeding edge debs out there somewhere so that you are effectively running svn code for KKE4 on Kubuntu (Gutsy)?20:52
noaXessthebox: konqueror20:52
sky_weel, after all no ... it say i have no upgrades to do20:52
snarksterwhat like 3 days till kde4 is unvield20:52
sky_ill reboot once to see if things get better20:53
sky_cya perhaps, and thank whatever20:53
snarksterthis isnt windows20:53
MGalaxyhow can I change only the backColor of pop-up menus in kubuntu 7.10?20:57
noaXesshow can i set the runlevel default to 3?20:57
noaXessMGalaxy: try in system settings the apperance thing..20:57
MGalaxynoaxess: I didnt find it, could u plz tell me where exactly?20:58
snarkster!run levels21:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about run levels - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:00
noaXessMGalaxy: you need to search trough... or look, read in kde-look.org.. there are diffrent theme manager and funny themes :)21:00
noaXesssnarkster: that i have tried earlier21:00
snarksteri had the glmatrix as my background.. though it was cool looking i lost all my desktop icons21:01
snarksterbeen wondering what the 6 run levels meant in unbuntu..21:01
dirk_can anybody explain me how i must install licq21:01
ScorpKingMGalaxy: it's in the Color Settings in kcontrol21:02
noaXesssnarkster: on other linux there is the file /etc/inittab to configure the default runlevel..21:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:02
noaXessdirk_: thry apt-get, the adept_manager or add/remove programms21:02
snarksterright i understand that.. i meant is single user 3 and multiuserx 521:02
noaXesskenster: ubotu don't now anything about runlevel or inittab21:02
MGalaxyScorpKing: it changes windows backColor, I want to change only pop-up menus only21:02
ardchoillesnarkster: Run levels: http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/?show=m58e5dd8521:03
snarksterthank you21:03
kenstersnarkster: 0 is halt 1 is recovery, only root, 2 is rocovery + network 4 is custom 6 ir reboot21:03
ScorpKingMGalaxy: ok. let me look21:03
noaXessardchoille: now.. we now what they are... but how to set the default runlevel to 321:03
theboxi get errors when i try to install konqueror21:03
sky_Hello again21:04
noaXessthebox: what is the error of you start adept_manager?21:04
Daisuke_Idothebox: you're using kde, you already have konqueror21:04
sky_i cant connect to msn or gtalk with kopete : just crash each time21:04
theboxi need to try a diffrent route...how do i burn a floppy image to that has a boot manager on it21:04
theboxhow do i do that21:04
snarksterthank you very much that comes in handy21:05
theboxi wanted to try kde 4 and i ruined my system21:05
theboxim supprised konquer still works21:05
noaXessthebox: use virtualbox for testing.. good thing ;) virtualbox.org.. there are repos for 7.1021:06
theboxyeah but it is to late now21:06
ScorpKingMGalaxy: i see what you mean. heh21:06
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.21:06
DreadKnightjoin #kde4-release-party21:06
theboxi just want to reinstall kubuntu now21:06
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto21:06
MGalaxyScorpKing: and the result? :D21:07
theboxi cant surf the web21:07
sky_i just got a fresh install of kubuntu, and does not even work witout crashing each time i try to connect to messenger21:07
theboxthats why im here asking for help desparatly21:07
ScorpKingMGalaxy: busy looking on google. ;)21:07
Greenerysky_: u sure ur current kubuntu is up to date?21:09
DreadKnightjoin #kde4-release-party  ^^21:09
Greenerysky_: its used to be an issue where kopete crashed when trying to connect to msn21:10
noaXessnosrednaekim: but i can't find any hint to set runlevel to 321:10
theboxhow do i take a floppy image and put it on a floppy in kubuntu21:10
Doctor_Subtiliswhat's the kde version of gconf-editor?21:10
moparisthebestI can't get knetworkmanager to display any interfaces at all, wired or wireless21:10
ScorpKing!grub | thebox21:10
ubotuthebox: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto21:10
moparisthebestI am connected to the network now with Wireless Assistant21:10
sky_Greenery : well, when i type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade21:11
sky_it say : all ok21:11
moparisthebestand both interfaces show up in the control module21:11
moparisthebestany ideas?21:11
theboxubotu i dont have website access21:11
ScorpKingheh. sorry thebox, i forgot ;)21:11
Doctor_Subtiliswhat is the kde version of gconf-editor?21:12
Doctor_Subtilisim trying to configure Brightside - Screen Corners21:12
noaXessthebox: first.. ubotu is a bot.. and if you haven't internet acces how can you be here?21:12
theboxscorpking:  thats okay...but i would still appreciate the help21:12
noaXessthebox: sudo apt-get firefox21:12
noaXessthebox: sudo apt-get install firefox21:12
theboxbecause irc and konqueror used diffrent protocols21:12
theboxi have internet not website access21:13
noaXessthebox: install firefox21:13
ScorpKingthebox: knetworkmanager is usually the problem.21:13
theboxno i installed kde4rc and it messed up some dependencys21:13
theboxor someting21:13
ScorpKingthebox: firefox will give you web access. you can also configure eth0 manually. if you use any for of dailup it won't work if eth0 is down21:14
theboxit says package is not availble21:14
theboxwhat file is the upgrade server list located21:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about inittab - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:15
kensterthebox: you need to add repos in adept21:15
Doctor_Subtiliscould someone tell me the kde version of gconf-editor?21:15
ScorpKingthebox: see if you can get the txt file i'm sending you21:16
kensterDoctor_Subtilis: there isn;t one, what do you want to change21:16
sky_Greenery : im new to linux, how to get the version ?21:16
nosrednaekimsky_: "lsb_release -a"21:16
noaXesssky_: uname -a21:16
Doctor_Subtiliskenster: i want to configure brightside (the screen corners app)21:16
kensterDoctor_Subtilis: I know nothing of it, sorry21:17