[00:00] <NexaMac> eric: are you on a fresh install, or have you updated yet?
[00:01] <NexaMac> it litterally took me weeks to get my nvidia drivers properly installed when i first got around to converting to linux :<
[00:01] <eric> yeah i just installed the 8.4 alpha
[00:02] <NexaMac> 8.4? o_O
[00:02] <terran4000> http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[00:02] <terran4000> That did the trick for me ..
[00:02] <NexaMac> didnt work for me :/
[00:02] <terran4000> o.O
[00:02] <eric> it's the beta of the new one comming out in april
[00:02] <NexaMac> no scripts or envy or anything
[00:02] <terran4000> Ouch
[00:02] <NexaMac> 7800 xfx
[00:02] <NexaMac> had to do it "manually" :>
[00:02] <terran4000> heh, always a treat.
[00:03] <NexaMac> purged my old drivers, downloaded new ones, went command line and used some kernel producing program
[00:03] <NexaMac> i fail at english and tech talk so badly now
[00:03] <NexaMac> tired tbh
[00:03] <NexaMac> so baer white mi ;o
[00:03] <terran4000> NexaMac: Welcome to my everyday life ;-)
[00:03] <eric> lol
[00:04] <NexaMac> not all answers i give out may be correct either.. so if their wrong, up yours scotty!
[00:04] <eric> so far i have to say i like linux
[00:04] <terran4000> I have a love/hate relationship with it.
[00:04] <NexaMac> my first impression too, then nvidia made me dislike it, then nvidia made me love it :P
[00:04] <eric> i can see that happining
[00:04] <terran4000> Ati makes me want to shoot my computer >_>
[00:05] <NexaMac> terran4000: i got love/hate relationship with osx
[00:05] <NexaMac> its so incredibly stable at times, and good looking
[00:05] <NexaMac> but other times it crash or... applications crash for no reason
[00:05] <NexaMac> you cant change the look much
[00:05] <NexaMac> no terminal is ever used :/
[00:05] <terran4000> Not to mention installing anything decent takes 10 years
[00:05] <NexaMac> is getting too much like wind.o.s
[00:05] <eric> I love ATI but i thought i would try a nvidia card since my last card was a X1800TX ATI man i loved that card
[00:06] <NexaMac> eric: Nvidia > ati
[00:06] <terran4000> At least in linux
[00:06] <NexaMac> always has been, always will be like that imo :p
[00:06] <NexaMac> only downside to my geforce card is, that it makes my vodoo 3 banshee look so shitty :<
[00:07]  * terran4000 hugs his own old voodoo card.
[00:07] <NexaMac> :D
[00:07] <eric> Well there just not keeping up with nvidia so much that i just have to go with Nvidia :(
[00:07] <terran4000> Don't know why, but I seriously love that card.
[00:07] <eric> hehe i had 2 voodoos running SLI or what ever they called back then
[00:07] <NexaMac> i still cant decide, do i upgrade to a 3200 NOK 768 mb vid card, or do i get 2x 256mb vid cards for like 2400 NOK
[00:08] <NexaMac> theres a hefty price difference, and i dont see the need for more then 512mb atm
[00:08] <terran4000> Personal preference: go with one card. Less hassle
[00:08] <NexaMac> yeah but teh moneeeey
[00:08] <Chousuke> more RAM probably won't help you, though.
[00:08] <NexaMac> i can seriously upgrade my system to the double for a total of 4k NOK
[00:08] <terran4000> Chousuke: agreed.
[00:08] <Chousuke> it doesn't affect speed that much, unless you have huge textures.
[00:08] <NexaMac> unless i go for the 768 card, then ill have to go up to 5k NOK
[00:09] <NexaMac> which i could build an entire computer for P
[00:09] <NexaMac> :P
[00:09] <eric> if i wan't rinning linux i would do the 2 cards cause i think it would run faster than the 1 better card
[00:09] <terran4000> Speaking of two video card and Sli ... does that even work in Kubuntu/Linux?
[00:09] <NexaMac> thats also a good question
[00:09] <NexaMac> was getting to that
[00:09] <eric> i dbout it
[00:10] <NexaMac> meh i guess i can find out
[00:10] <terran4000> heh
[00:10] <NexaMac> think my brother left behind 2 vid cards when he moved
[00:10] <eric> 0.o
[00:10] <qbuntu> whats the name of the CDW/R program for KDE ?  I need to burn a cd
[00:10] <terran4000> I had enough trouble getting 2 head working!
[00:10] <terran4000> qbuntu: K3B
[00:10] <NexaMac> 2 head?
[00:10] <terran4000> er ..
[00:10] <terran4000> dual head
[00:10] <NexaMac> >_>
[00:10] <NexaMac> dual head?
[00:10] <NexaMac> youre like an ogre?
[00:11] <eric> lol
[00:11] <terran4000> I'm just pissed that I don't have a 2nd card so I could get a 3rd monitor
[00:11] <NexaMac> oooh
[00:11] <NexaMac> dual screen?
[00:11] <terran4000> Dual monitor just isn't enough these days.
[00:11] <terran4000> aye
[00:11] <NexaMac> i really dont see why you would need more then 2 monitors
[00:11] <thomasnuggetts__> can anyone help because I can't change the default page that my apache2 server loads upon connection
[00:12] <NexaMac> im using 2, one for IRC and one for movies/gaming/whateverthefuckelse
[00:12] <terran4000> I'm just too lazy to switch between desktops ^^
[00:12] <NickPresta> thomasnuggetts__, have you edited your index.html page in /var/www?
[00:12] <thomasnuggetts__> yes it is in /var/www
[00:12] <eric> ok well i'm going to see if i get to reinstall Kubuntu after messing up my Nvidia driver install :)
[00:12] <NexaMac> waaaaaaaaaaait
[00:12] <eric> ok
[00:12] <NexaMac> why reinstall?
[00:13] <NexaMac> its easier and faster to remove the old drivers
[00:13] <thomasnuggetts__> NickPresta: yes it is in that folder
[00:13] <NickPresta> thomasnuggetts__, and looking at your httpd.conf, are you sure you're editing the correct file? Check where your document root is located.
[00:13] <NexaMac> what exactly did you mess up?
[00:13] <evil_tech> anyone running kubuntu on a it8212 ide controller?
[00:13] <eric> cause i read a few people after installing the driver where not able to boot back in to the desktop
[00:14] <NexaMac> nah cause they noobed it up and dunno how to reconfigure i suppose
[00:14] <NexaMac> seriously
[00:14] <NickPresta> !xconfig | eric
[00:14] <ubotu> eric: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[00:14] <NexaMac> if everything fails and you cant get back into X, all you have to do is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[00:14] <NexaMac> select Vesa as driver
[00:14] <NexaMac> it just works
[00:14] <eric> Well being that this is the first time i have tryed Linux i just might be in the same boat :(
[00:14] <NexaMac> took me about 10 reinstalls before i learned that
[00:15] <thomasnuggetts__> NickPresta: document root is /var/www and btw it is not the httpd.conf file...that file is empty it is the default.conf file
[00:15] <NexaMac> we just saved you tho :P
[00:15] <eric> ok i'll wright that down too :)
[00:15] <NexaMac> eric: is your xserver currently working?
[00:15] <sub[t]rnl> just keep a backup of a working xorg.conf
[00:15] <NexaMac> yeah
[00:15] <terran4000> time to go get the cats some fresh food and me some paint (yeyz for painting walls AGAIN! <sigh>). Cheers guys and gals.
[00:15] <NickPresta> thomasnuggetts__, ah okay. I don't use the repo. version of Apache 2, I wasn't aware what the config. file was called. What happens if you remove or rename the index.html file? Do you get a directory listing (via auto index)?
[00:15] <eric> yeah as far as i know
[00:16] <NexaMac> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[00:16] <NickPresta> !away > terran4000|away
[00:16] <terran4000|away> my bad, sorry
[00:17] <NexaMac> eric: another lesson to be learned, if you read something in capitol letters you write it in capitol letters
[00:17] <NexaMac> like the folder X11
[00:17] <NexaMac> x11 doesnt work cause its not named x11 its named X11
[00:18] <eric> yeah i was trying to get in the documents dir but it kept saying it was not there do i tryed using case sesetive and it worked
[00:19] <NickPresta> eric, GNU+Linux is case sensitive :)
[00:19] <thomasnuggetts__> NickPresta: aww ok it gave me an index
[00:19] <thomasnuggetts__> NickPresta: so...
[00:19] <eric> ok so brbr if it works :)
[00:20] <NickPresta> thomasnuggetts__, check your conf file for the 'DirectoryIndex' directive. You should see something like: DirectoryIndex index.html. If you want to have index.php automatically load when you visit http://yoursite.com/, you need to add that to the DirectoryIndex directive
[00:21] <HS^> if kde4 releases......can kubuntu please search some better default fonts?
[00:21] <HS^> maybe it is my monitor......
[00:21] <HS^> but damn
[00:21] <thomasnuggetts__> NickPresta: yes i was looking for that too...i have an apache server on windows and it uses that but i can't find directoryindex here in my confg file....i'm gonna look again...
[00:22] <HS^> am i whining if i think these fonts are ugly?
[00:22] <HS^> http://debianadmin.com/copper/displayimage.php?pid=1072&fullsize=1
[00:22] <HS^> (from kubuntu site)
[00:23] <HS^> the menu i talk about
[00:23] <NickPresta> HS^, you can adjust your font settings within the System Settings dialogue
[00:23] <HS^> something looks wrong wit it.. some letters are all thick
[00:23] <HS^> well the best i can get is like the screenshot
[00:24] <HS^> these fonts dont even work without antialias or hinting
[00:24] <NexaMac> HS^: looks perfectly fine here o_O
[00:24] <HS^> NexaMac the screenshot?
[00:24] <ardchoille> HS^: What menu?
[00:24] <NexaMac> yes
[00:24] <HS^> ugh
[00:24] <thomasnuggetts__> NickPresta: am I working with a good apache version? its 2.2.3
[00:24] <HS^> i think you use linux too long
[00:25] <HS^> to think those font look good
[00:25] <NexaMac> haha
[00:25] <NexaMac> no seriously
[00:25] <NexaMac> whats wrong with them? :<
[00:25] <HS^> look at the 'w'in View
[00:25] <thomasnuggetts__> NickPresta: would it help if I showed you the config file's contents?
[00:25] <NickPresta> thomasnuggetts__, the latest version of Apache 2 is 2.2.6, although 2.2.3 is fine if you're just running a home dev. server. Sure, !pastebin me your conf file
[00:26] <HS^> these are not sharp fonts
[00:26] <HS^> and looking at them for a long time will give you serious problems
[00:26] <NexaMac> nothing wrong :/
[00:26] <HS^> wait
[00:26] <NexaMac> what kinda monitor are you using and whats your current resolution?
[00:27] <HS^> i see it the same as you in the screenshot
[00:27] <HS^> but i make a screenshot with a windows app next to it
[00:27] <NexaMac> sooo what youre saying is that the screenshot is fine but the original isnt?
[00:28] <HS^> http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4286/naamloosql7.png
[00:29] <HS^> no i say these font in screenshot and in kubuntu are horrible
[00:29] <HS^> look at the difference
[00:29] <Jatz> hey
[00:29] <Jatz> can someone help me with kmenu?
[00:29] <HS^> it may be small to see at first sight....
[00:29] <ardchoille> !nickspam > thomas
[00:29] <HS^> but it matters a lot
[00:30] <thomas> HS^: sorry i'm trying to login properly
[00:30] <NexaMac> the mirc ones look worse to me :P
[00:30] <Jatz> I just installed kubuntu
[00:30] <HS^> ooooh
[00:30] <Jatz> and kmenu is being weird
[00:30] <HS^> you are joking
[00:30] <NexaMac> no im serious :/
[00:30] <NickPresta> Jatz, what do you mean weird?
[00:31] <NexaMac> the mirc ones is smaller
[00:31] <Jatz> a bunch of apps in it show _:Entries in Kmenu: (some app) App name
[00:31] <NexaMac> apart from that their pretty much the same
[00:31] <Jatz> and more stuff after that
[00:31] <Jatz> I just want it to show the app name
[00:31] <HS^> NexaMac .... you are very subjective i think
[00:31] <Greenery> Jatz: did u try to edit them?
[00:32] <Jatz> edit the menu item?
[00:32] <Jatz> yeah
[00:32] <Jatz> it doesn't look wrong.
[00:33] <Jatz> so yeah, help?
[00:34] <Greenery> i can't quite get ur problem really
[00:34] <Jatz> well
[00:35] <Jatz> in the menu it displays all this crap. it's all prefixed with _:Entries in KMenu:
[00:35] <Jatz> annoying.
[00:35] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51281/
[00:37] <Greenery> Jatz: u using en_ca?
[00:37] <Jatz> I think
[00:37] <Jatz> and going to trash does _:Verb Trash
[00:37] <Greenery> try to change it to english US
[00:38] <Greenery> looks liek its a known problem
[00:38] <Jatz> scratch that
[00:38] <Jatz> I was on EN-US
[00:39] <Jatz> this is bugging me.
[00:39] <Greenery> so ur not using en_ca atm?
[00:39] <Jatz> nope
[00:39] <Jatz> never was
[00:40] <NickPresta> thomas_newbie__, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51287/
[00:40] <Greenery> double check ur regional and language
[00:41] <Greenery> it might be en_ca by accident
[00:41] <Jatz> alright
[00:41] <Jatz> nope, US English
[00:41] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: nick why wasn't it there though by default?
[00:42] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: how did you find that text?
[00:42] <NickPresta> thomas_newbie__, it is possible that you don't have 'mod_dir' but I doubt it. I got that text from my conf file :)
[00:42] <NickPresta> thomas_newbie__, does that fix the problem?
[00:43] <Greenery> try to change the Kmenu to "Name Only"
[00:44] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: let me check....I do have one stupid question though...when working in kate I cannot save the file directly to the /www folder because of permissions....the only way for me to get around it is save it somewhere and then use "kdesu konqueror" to copy and paste...any other easier way???
[00:44] <Jatz> Greenery, how?
[00:47] <NexaMac> anyone here using a macbook?
[00:47] <NickPresta> thomas_newbie__, you can run kate with root privileges, you can change the permissions on /var/www or you can change your document root to somewhere writeable by you (best option).
[00:47] <NexaMac> not a pro one but a regular cheapass macbook ? :<
[00:47] <Jatz> brb
[00:48] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: what do you recommend? change documentroot to /home?
[00:48] <phoenixz> !aptfix
[00:48] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:49] <NickPresta> thomas_newbie__, i have a little directory in /home/myusername/ called 'public_html'. I put all my documents for the web in that folder.
[00:53] <Dr_willis>  
[00:55] <NexaMac> if eric/sadfish ever gets back, will someone highlight me? :P
[00:59] <NexaMac> hmm
[00:59] <NexaMac> can someone say my name? :o
[01:00] <Greenery> NexaMac
[01:00] <NickPresta> someone will NexaMac
[01:00] <Flare183> ok i'm installing lmms where is the qt3 dir at?
[01:00] <NexaMac> cheers
[01:04] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: "You don't have permissino to access / on this server"??
[01:04] <Hammer89> Hello. Trying to install Ubuntu dual boot with Vista... I have the installation program open from the liveCD... but the migration assistant isn't finding Vista... any thoughts on what I should do?
[01:04] <NexaMac> migration assistant? :<
[01:04] <NexaMac> is that the one that copies your userinfo from win to linux?
[01:04] <Hammer89> yeah
[01:04] <NexaMac> do you really need it? ;)
[01:05] <Hammer89> I'm just concerned that it isn't detecting Vista
[01:05] <NexaMac> well
[01:05] <NickPresta> thomas_newbie__, what are the permissions of your www folder?
[01:05] <NexaMac> make sure you partion manually :p
[01:05] <Hammer89> I partitioned from wondows... I used the guided option to use the largest free space
[01:05] <Hammer89> *windows
[01:05] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: i created public_html folder in my home directory and changed documentroot
[01:06] <NickPresta> thomas_newbie__, make sure the directory is set to executable. It should look like rwxr-xr-x
[01:06] <Flare183> how do fix this: checking QTDIR... configure: error: *** QTDIR must be defined, or --with-qtdir option given
[01:07] <Flare183> i can't find the right qt folder
[01:07] <NickPresta> Flare183, do you have the -dev packages installed?
[01:07] <NexaMac> hmm
[01:07] <Flare183> which package qt3-dev?
[01:07] <wesley> how can i check a ntsf file system on faults the file system is named sda2
[01:08] <Jucato> Flare183: libqt3-mt-dev
[01:08] <Flare183> oh ok i hate that package but ok
[01:08] <Hammer89> NexaMac: I'm kinda new... could you guide me through using the manual partitioning option?
[01:08] <NexaMac> Hammer89: a lot of people are gonna argue on this one i guess, but you really dont need more then 10gb / partition and a swap partition, so do it manually and enter the info manually and you should be safe
[01:08] <NexaMac> sure
[01:09] <NexaMac> how much space were you planning on using for your kubuntu?
[01:09] <NexaMac> keep in mind you can access your windisks from kubuntu so you dont have to plan 2398749873 petabytes on games and music
[01:09] <Hammer89> NexaMac: it's actually Ubuntu... but the Ubuntu channel was too crammed
[01:09] <NexaMac> ah :P
[01:09] <NexaMac> even better
[01:10] <Hammer89> I have 17748 MBs free
[01:10] <Hammer89> unallocated
[01:10] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: are you assuming i'm using the command line :S?  and public_html is executable. The only difference is that public_html belongs to me and /www/ belongs to root
[01:10] <NexaMac> Hammer89: do you NEED a lot of that space?
[01:10] <Hammer89> probably not...
[01:10] <NexaMac> the ubuntu takes about 2500 + twice your ram, tho i would go for at least 10gb on the ubuntu partition :/
[01:11] <NexaMac> how much ram do you have?
[01:11] <Hammer89> 2GB
[01:11] <Flare183> Jucato: ok now what try the ./configure again?
[01:11] <Jucato> yes
[01:11] <Flare183> ok
[01:11] <NexaMac> then create a new parition Swap and make it 4096mb
[01:11] <wesley> that will not do it Hammer89 at least 3 gb you need
[01:11] <Hammer89> hmm
[01:12] <Hammer89> I have ubuntu running on a much slower system...
[01:12] <NickPresta> thomas_newbie__, well, you should only be concerned with public_html, since you aren't using the www folder anymore. public_html has to be world executable. Press Alt+F2 and type: chmod 755 public_html
[01:12] <Flare183> Jucato: still same error
[01:12] <Flare183> Jucato: i'm trying to install lmms
[01:12] <Flare183> the newest version
[01:12] <NexaMac> Hammer89: well according to wesley 3gb should do the trick
[01:13] <Hammer89> *slightly confused*
[01:13] <NexaMac> hehe
[01:13] <NexaMac> allright
[01:13] <NexaMac> where are you currently?
[01:13] <NexaMac> are you on the manual partition screen?
[01:13] <Hammer89> yeah
[01:13] <wesley> 2 gb will cause that if you install a few programs you have you disk full kind of frustration will that be
[01:13] <NexaMac> create a new partition, select "swap" in the drop down menu and make it 4096 gb
[01:14] <Hammer89> okay
[01:14] <NexaMac> then create another partition and name it /
[01:14] <NexaMac> this one should be at least 5gb tho i always go for minimum 10gb
[01:14] <Hammer89> "type for the new partition" what should I select?
[01:14] <Minataku> Old rule of thumb was double the system RAM
[01:14] <Minataku> For swap
[01:14] <NexaMac> if its swap, swap
[01:14] <NexaMac> if not its /
[01:14] <Hammer89> the options are primary and logical
[01:14] <NexaMac> or root
[01:14] <Minataku> Currently, I'd say it's double up to 1GB of RAM
[01:15] <Minataku> After that, the same as RAM
[01:15] <NexaMac> err leave it as it is
[01:15] <wesley> if you wanna install some games or kde4 i should take more gb than 3
[01:15] <Hammer89> okay
[01:15] <NexaMac> Minataku: really?
[01:15] <rotterdmn> hi lol
[01:15] <rotterdmn> lol
[01:15] <Minataku> That's how I do it, NexaMac
[01:15] <NexaMac> are we trolling rotterdmn? :<
[01:15] <rotterdmn> lol no
[01:15] <Minataku> NexaMac: Unless it's a collection system of mine with little HDD space
[01:15] <Hammer89> location for new partition... beginning or end?
[01:15] <Minataku> NexaMac: In which case I'll bend it to fit
[01:15] <NexaMac> Minataku: aight, i wouldnt know, all my machines are either 1gb or 2gb so i just double it
[01:15] <rotterdmn> I need help with virtualbox :'(
[01:15] <rotterdmn> the shit won't work
[01:15] <NexaMac> Hammer89: leave it as it is :P
[01:16] <Hammer89> okay :P
[01:16] <Minataku> !ohmy | rotterdmn
[01:16] <ubotu> rotterdmn: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[01:16] <rotterdmn> oops! sorry
[01:16] <Hammer89> I made the swap partition
[01:16] <NexaMac> did you create both partitions Hammer89?
[01:16] <NexaMac> aight
[01:16] <NexaMac> next is the system
[01:16] <NexaMac> this one is simpler
[01:16] <rotterdmn> how do I re-install FireFox?
[01:17] <NexaMac> create new partition, name it /, make it 5-6 GB since vista probably takes a fair share of whats left to function
[01:17] <rotterdmn> is acting weirdy
[01:17] <rotterdmn> I mean isn't even starting :(
[01:17] <wesley> i have configere yesterday a very old systemn with xubuntu i did take 4 gb / and 3 /home and 512 swap
[01:17] <NexaMac> ^^
[01:17] <Hammer89> I still have 13653MB of unallocated space... vista isn;t using it...
[01:17] <Minataku> rotterdmn: Make sure it's not already running
[01:17] <NexaMac> then be bold enough Hammer89 to make the / 8gb
[01:17] <wesley> 13 gb is so full if you download
[01:18] <NexaMac> i can almost guarantee you that without a few gig free windows is gonna be slow as hell
[01:18] <Hammer89> okay
[01:18] <Hammer89> only 8GB?
[01:18] <NexaMac> wesley: using the windisks is a fine way of getting around it :)
[01:18] <NexaMac> Hammer89: yes
[01:18] <Hammer89> I thought 10 was recommended...
[01:18] <wesley> windisks?
[01:18] <NexaMac> i recommend it, but seeing as youre dual booting i wouldnt do 10 with so little space left
[01:18] <NexaMac> wesley: dual booting vista and ubuntu
[01:19] <Hammer89> okay
[01:19] <wesley> mauw kubuntu is enough
[01:19] <NexaMac> :>
[01:19] <NexaMac> <--- osx + kubuntu <3
[01:19] <Minataku> Ew. OSX.
[01:19] <Minataku> EW! MAC!
[01:19]  * Minataku shudders
[01:19] <rotterdmn> Minataku: no, it isn't running
[01:20] <wesley> okay but i did had a vista on it but deleted it and now stuck with a big ntsf
[01:20] <Hammer89> so make an 8192MB partition?
[01:20] <Minataku> Sorry. I can't stand Apple.
[01:20] <NexaMac> Minataku: rather osx then windows tbh :P
[01:20] <rotterdmn> how do I re-install
[01:20] <Minataku> I don't know.
[01:20] <NexaMac> i need my blizzard games <3
[01:20] <NexaMac> you wont catch me buying an ipod or an iphone tho :o
[01:21] <Minataku> At least there's that.
[01:21] <Minataku> :D
[01:21] <rotterdmn> how do I re-install?
[01:21] <Hammer89> NexaMac: make an 8192mb partition?
[01:21] <wesley> i call of duty 3XD but call of duty 4 takes many gamers away from 3
[01:21] <NexaMac> Minataku: i cant stand any apple product besides osx
[01:21] <NexaMac> Hammer89:  yar
[01:22] <Hammer89> NexaMac: and type "/" in the mount point box?
[01:22] <NexaMac> Minataku: ipod locking your mp3's to one computer, forcing you to use itunes etc is just plain nazisim
[01:22] <rotterdmn> how do I re-install?
[01:22] <NexaMac> nazisisim or whatever
[01:22] <Minataku> I can't stand any Apple products but the ones they've disowned
[01:22] <NexaMac> Hammer89: you got it
[01:22] <Hammer89> **is ready to screw windows**
[01:22] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: I don't know whats wrong :(
[01:22] <Minataku> By order of Steve Jobs, Furher of Apple
[01:22] <wesley> how can i check a windows ntfs for errors in kubuntu
[01:23] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: this is correct: DocumentRoot /home/myusername/public_html/
[01:23] <Greenery> rotterdmn: try checking for firefox in ksysguard
[01:23] <Minataku> That dick fired the Happy Mac
[01:23] <Greenery> if its still there kill it
[01:23] <JohnFlux> wesley: check ntfs-tools maybe
[01:23] <Hammer89> NexaMac: what next?
[01:23] <NexaMac> click install :P
[01:23] <wesley> there almost no documentation
[01:23] <Hammer89> oh :P
[01:24] <Minataku> So, as a computer collector, I've vowed to give the poor, unemployed Happy Mac a good home
[01:24] <Minataku> XD
[01:24] <rotterdmn> Greenery: I've checked it in TOP wasn't there, and it was working fine earlier
[01:24] <rotterdmn> now I am forced to use CLOSE SOURCE opera
[01:25] <NexaMac> ah
[01:25] <NexaMac> ive got a question there
[01:25] <NexaMac> im no guru tbh
[01:25] <NexaMac> how can i find a programs signal without using top?
[01:25] <Minataku> Huh?
[01:25] <Greenery> rotterdmn: purge firefox and install it back i guess
[01:25] <Minataku> Signals are sent to a process
[01:25] <NexaMac> okok
[01:25] <Minataku> Not recieved from one.
[01:25] <Hammer89> ergh
[01:25] <NexaMac> when i kill a process
[01:25] <Hammer89> I pressed back by accident :P
[01:26] <Hammer89> lol
[01:26] <NexaMac> how can i find the PID (?) without having to read through top? :p
[01:26] <NexaMac> Hammer89: are you sure youre ready? ;p
[01:26] <Hammer89> lol
[01:26] <sfears> hello
[01:26] <Minataku> NexaMac: I use ps for that
[01:26] <Minataku> Specifically, ps -AF f
[01:27] <Hammer89> NexaMac: I'm still a little confused about why I need to leave so much space totally unallocated...
[01:27] <NexaMac> thanks Minataku
[01:27] <Minataku> NexaMac: No problem.
[01:27] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i change my screen resolution
[01:27] <Hammer89> NexaMac: I have 2 partitions... and then the unallocated space
[01:27] <Minataku> !resolution | Jay-Oh-En
[01:27] <ubotu> Jay-Oh-En: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:27] <NexaMac> Hammer89: simply because the last time i used windows for anything other then a "safe fallback for gaming" it required free space to run
[01:27] <Minataku> There used to be an !xrandr, but some ass deleted it
[01:28] <Hammer89> NexaMac: there wasn't any free space before, though?
[01:28] <NexaMac> if your windrive has free space on it, screw what i said and just use the free space
[01:28] <sfears> anyone know how i can disable "common unix printing services cupsd" from booting.. it's causing startup to freeze?
[01:28] <NexaMac> Minataku: you need to teach the bot ctrl+alt+backspace :<
[01:28] <Minataku> !rc | sfears
[01:28] <ubotu> sfears: Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[01:28] <Minataku> Uh
[01:28] <Minataku> That's... completely f*cking wrong
[01:29] <sfears> already upgraded
[01:29] <ardchoille> !guidelines | Minataku
[01:29] <ubotu> Minataku: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:29] <Minataku> !startup
[01:29] <ubotu> To make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[01:29] <Hammer89> NexaMac: what are we defining as "free space"?
[01:29] <NexaMac> Hammer89: okok put it this way
[01:29] <NexaMac> wait a sec
[01:29] <Minataku> ardchoille: Look. F*ck you. Okay? F*ck you. I'm trying to help here, and the dumbass bot has completely stupid facts.
[01:29] <Minataku> !upstart
[01:29] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[01:29] <Minataku> Try that. Maybe.
[01:30] <Minataku> I don't even know if there's anything remotely useful in this crappy bot anymore.
[01:30] <Minataku> !startup
[01:30] <ubotu> To make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[01:30] <wesley> chkdsk how can i install that?
[01:30] <NexaMac> :<
[01:30] <NexaMac> Hammer89: the disk windows is on, how much free space is on it?
[01:30] <NexaMac> in total
[01:30] <sfears> anyone know where i can get some more help on startup problems?
[01:31] <Hammer89> NexaMac: I'm not entirely sure... maybe 10-20GB?
[01:32] <Hammer89> NexaMac: the partition program in linux is saying that the free space for my win partition is "unknown"
[01:32] <NexaMac> allrigh
[01:32] <NexaMac> so you have free space in addition to whats free on the windows disk?
[01:32] <Hammer89> I have _unallocated_ space
[01:33] <Hammer89> meaning... nothing is using it
[01:33] <NexaMac> congrats
[01:33] <NexaMac> YOU managed to confuse ME :p
[01:33] <Hammer89> :P
[01:33] <NexaMac> allright
[01:33] <NexaMac> just
[01:33] <NexaMac> create the swap
[01:33] <Hammer89> how large again?
[01:33] <NexaMac> if its 2gb ram, make the swap 2048, then make a / with the remaining unallocated space
[01:33] <sfears> Hammer89, depending on the partition utility you use.. sometimes you can only have 4 partitions.. if there is unused space after the 4 logical partitions are created you can't do anything with the remaining space
[01:33] <rotterdmn> why openoffice isn't opening m$$$$$$$$$$ .doc files?
[01:34] <rotterdmn> somebody wants to get rid of my hardworking installation only because the damn .doc files
[01:34] <rotterdmn> please help
[01:34] <Greenery> try google docs?
[01:35] <Hammer89> NexaMac: should I use ext3?
[01:35] <NexaMac> :>
[01:35] <NexaMac> yes
[01:35] <NexaMac> just leave everything i dont told you to change as it is by default :p
[01:35] <Hammer89> :P
[01:36] <Hammer89> maybe I've confused you again and your instructions will screw my system up?
[01:36] <Hammer89> :P
[01:36] <NexaMac> my smartass brother told me years ago, if you dont know what it is, dont fucking mess with it
[01:36] <NexaMac> ;)
[01:36] <rotterdmn> Greenery: .doc is a m$ file format not google
[01:36] <rotterdmn> for your info
[01:36] <Hammer89> that's why I ask people ;)
[01:36] <rotterdmn> expanding knowledge
[01:37] <Greenery> rotterdmn: maybe google docs support some ms docs
[01:37] <Hammer89> is it a problem that the migration assistant doesn't pick up vista?
[01:37] <ubuntu> hi. im not coming off a new install or upgrade or anything, i dont remember what i did. but the last time i restarted my computer it wouldnt boot up properly. it goes past the grub then instead of getting my login screen i get a terminal-like screen and it says "BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7) built-in shell (ash)" then it drops down and instead of my username it says "(initramfs)" in a terminal style prompt. i have limited commands
[01:37] <ubuntu> while in this, but i can tell that i am on my main partition because im able to cd through folders. i looked around the internet and the most common responce was to remove "quiet splash" and add "all_generic_ide" to the thing in the grub (pressing escape then e for edit and b to boot it up) but that didnt work for me. a few sites i looked at also suggested just messing with "noacpi, nodma, noapic, and nolapic" i tried each one of those, with
[01:37] <ubuntu> and without the "quiet splash" there and none of it worked. What is this problem, and how can i fix it? Thanks in advance for the help.
[01:38] <Hammer89> NexaMac: it'll pick the right partition by default?
[01:38] <NexaMac> what will?
[01:38] <Hammer89> the installation thing...
[01:39] <NexaMac> simply, create a new partition, swap, same amount as your ram, click ok, then create a / with the remaining space, click ok, click install and wait 10 mins fo rthe install to finish :p
[01:39] <Schuenemann> !rmvb
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rmvb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:39] <NexaMac> yeah just tag the "format" if its not ticked and highlight it to be sure
[01:39] <Hammer89> okay
[01:39] <Hammer89> next step isn;t installation... it's the migration assistant
[01:39] <Hammer89> which still isn't picking up vista :P
[01:39] <NexaMac> manual
[01:40] <Hammer89> ?
[01:40] <NexaMac> and just enter your name, comp name, password and login name
[01:40] <phoenixz> Hola hgomez
[01:40] <hgomez> Hola phoenixz
[01:40] <Hammer89> NexaMac: the migration assistant isn't giving me anything
[01:40] <NexaMac> Hammer89: please dont tell me you cant fill it in manually?
[01:40] <Hammer89> NexaMac: on the migration assistant page it's all blanked out... :P
[01:40] <NexaMac> :/
[01:41] <NexaMac> can you NOT use the migration assisstant somehow?
[01:41] <hgomez> phoenixz, see ya later!
[01:41] <NexaMac> mmmm 20 minutes until my wow server goes down
[01:41] <Hammer89> NexaMac: it says "there were no users or operating systems suitable for importing from" (arguably true... win vista...)
[01:41] <NexaMac> inc mario galaxies
[01:41] <NexaMac> haha
[01:42] <NexaMac> well
[01:42] <phoenixz> Im trying to access a windows fileshare with konqueror with smb://111.111.111.111 but every time I do something it keeps asking me for the password.. How can I make konqueror remember the password?
[01:42] <NexaMac> Hammer89: last time i installed ubuntu (last night) i had a choice to NOT use the migration assistant
[01:42] <NexaMac> you dont?
[01:42] <Hammer89> I can click forward and see what it gives me next......
[01:42] <NexaMac> phoenixz: add it to the keychain? :x
[01:43] <Hammer89> there aren't *any* options on the migration assistant page, though
[01:43] <Hammer89> other than back and forward
[01:43] <NexaMac> then forward for the win
[01:43] <Hammer89> the "who are you" page
[01:43] <phoenixz> NexaMac, keychain? how? where?
[01:43] <NexaMac> "im me, who the f*** are you to ask?"
[01:44] <Hammer89> lol
[01:44] <NexaMac> phoenixz: i honestly have no clue, im used to gnome :<
[01:44] <NexaMac> check the forums
[01:44] <NexaMac> !keychain
[01:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keychain - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:44] <Hammer89> NexaMac: alrighty... all filled out
[01:44] <phoenixz> !aptfix
[01:44] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[01:44] <NexaMac> then next and next and go for a smoke or something :D
[01:44] <Hammer89> NexaMac: again though... my only concern is that the bootloader will *not* pick up my vista installation
[01:45] <NexaMac> if it doesnt well manually fix that as well
[01:45] <Hammer89> okay
[01:46] <Hammer89> on the "ready to install" page... under the advanced button there are options for the bootloader... anything I should mess with there?
[01:47] <Hammer89> "No!"
[01:47] <NexaMac> see?
[01:47] <Hammer89> ?
[01:47] <NexaMac> why ask me when your answers are as good? :D
[01:47] <Hammer89> :D
[01:48] <Hammer89> The partition tables of the following devices are changed:
[01:48] <Hammer89>  SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda)
[01:48] <Hammer89> The following partitions are going to be formatted:
[01:48] <Hammer89>  partition #3 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) as swap
[01:48] <Hammer89>  partition #4 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) as ext3
[01:48] <NexaMac> if you need help through basics, you dont touch advanced :P
[01:48] <Hammer89> that all good?
[01:48] <NexaMac> yesh
[01:48] <Hammer89> I was just gonna do guided :P
[01:49] <NexaMac> :p
[01:49] <Hammer89> wouldn't be a better idea to go back and start from guided, would it? :P
[01:49] <NexaMac> yup
[01:49] <NexaMac> no
[01:49] <NexaMac> just hit install allready :P
[01:49] <Hammer89> alright :P
[01:50] <Hammer89> where's your address so I can kill you if it messes up?
[01:50] <Hammer89> (j/k)
[01:50] <NexaMac> norway ;o
[01:50] <NexaMac> gl!
[01:50] <Hammer89> lol
[01:50] <NexaMac> ill just firewall you
[01:50] <NexaMac> can of axe and a lighter <3
[01:50] <Hammer89> my bro's gf is from norway ;)
[01:50] <NexaMac> >_>
[01:50] <NexaMac> is she hot?
[01:50] <ardchoille> !ot
[01:50] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[01:50] <Hammer89> LOL
[01:50] <phoenixz> Is there a program that can show microsoft visio files?
[01:51] <sfears> anyone know how to edit boot up paramaters?
[01:51] <NexaMac> urgh fine, Hammer89 spam into the channel :p
[01:51] <sub[t]rnl> phoenixz➜ kivio
[01:52] <sub[t]rnl> sfears➜ /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:53] <sfears> past grub
[01:53] <sfears> it gets about half way thru boot & locks up while loading printing services
[01:53] <sfears> but i don't really use printing on my laptop.. so i was wondering if i could turn it off
[01:54] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: you there?
[01:54] <phoenixz> sub[t]rnl, thanks lots! :)
[01:55] <NickPresta> thomas_newbie__, yep, sorry about that. Did you change permissions on your public_html folder
[01:55] <ubun1tu> hi. im not coming off a new install or upgrade or anything, i dont remember what i did. but the last time i restarted my computer it wouldnt boot up properly. it goes past the grub then instead of getting my login screen i get a terminal-like screen and it says "BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7) built-in shell (ash)" then it drops down and instead of my username it says "(initramfs)" in a terminal style prompt. i have limited commands
[01:55] <ubun1tu> while in this, but i can tell that i am on my main partition because im able to cd through folders. i looked around the internet and the most common responce was to remove "quiet splash" and add "all_generic_ide" to the thing in the grub (pressing escape then e for edit and b to boot it up) but that didnt work for me. a few sites i looked at also suggested just messing with "noacpi, nodma, noapic, and nolapic" i tried each one of those, with
[01:55] <ubun1tu> and without the "quiet splash" there and none of it worked. What is this problem, and how can i fix it? Thanks in advance for the help.
[01:55] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: nick don't you have to have the subfolder of public_html set permissions aswell?
[01:56] <phoenixz> sub[t]rnl, And I can use it to view visio files?
[01:57] <NickPresta> thomas_newbie__, no, you shouldn't have to. If you're trying to view yoursite.com/index.html, your document root needs to be chmod'd to 755. index.html can be set to read rwxr--r-- :)
[01:57] <sfears> ubun1tu, mabey a video driver problem.. when you get to a shell prompt try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and set it up with vesa drivers.. all the other options are pretty self explanitory.. resolution 800x600 or 1024x768
[01:58] <ubun1tu> sfears: i cant get to a shell prompt
[01:58] <sfears> you said you could cd thru folders
[01:58] <sfears> that's a prompt
[01:58] <ubun1tu> even though its got the {initramfs) infront of it?
[01:59] <sfears> i'm not sure what that is
[01:59] <ubun1tu> well ill try that
[02:01] <sub[t]rnl> sfears➜ seagate harddrive?
[02:01] <NexaMac> Hammer89: are you still alive?
[02:01] <sfears> ummm.. i don't think so
[02:02] <Hammer89> NexaMac: lemme check...
[02:02] <NexaMac> Hammer89: done with the installation yet? :p
[02:02] <Hammer89> 82%
[02:03] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: i don't know
[02:04] <terran4000> Howdy
[02:04] <sfears> why do you ask sub[t]rnl
[02:04] <NexaMac> lo terran4000
[02:04] <NexaMac> done with the painting?
[02:04] <terran4000> I decided my cat could use a new coat.
[02:04] <NickPresta> thomas_newbie__, can you pastebin your config file again?
[02:05] <terran4000> Plus, painting in tomorrow, today is 'setup' day <sigh>
[02:06] <ubuntu> who was it that told me to do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure?
[02:06] <Hammer89> NexaMac: Finis'
[02:06] <sfears> i think that was me ubuntu
[02:06] <ubuntu> sfears: ya, i didnt think i was able to do that
[02:06] <ubuntu> its not a full featured prompt
[02:06] <sfears> got cha
[02:06] <ubuntu> i have VERY VERY limited commands
[02:07] <NexaMac> Hammer89: reboot and let me know if you can see both vista and ubuntu at the grub
[02:07] <ubuntu> sudo isnt even a command
[02:07] <Hammer89> alrighty
[02:07] <ardchoille> ubuntu: Sounds like you might be in busybox
[02:07] <ubuntu> thats what it seems like
[02:07] <ubuntu> cause thats what the thing says at the start
[02:07] <ubuntu> like its opening it
[02:07] <ubuntu> how do i get out of it?
[02:07] <ubuntu> i tried "quit, stop, exit"
[02:13] <ubuntu> ardchoille: how can i close it?
[02:14] <Hammer89> NexaMac: WTH did you do to my computer??
[02:14] <Hammer89> (j/k)
[02:15] <NexaMac> hahahha
[02:15] <NexaMac> did you see vista on grub? :P
[02:15] <ardchoille> ubuntu: I"m not sure, I've never worked with busybox
[02:15] <Hammer89> yes Ma'am
[02:15] <NexaMac> thank god
[02:15] <NexaMac> having to guide YOU through the boot.lst would be a pain in the ass ;)
[02:15] <Hammer89> lol
[02:15] <NexaMac> next up, video drivers then
[02:15] <NexaMac> whats your video card?
[02:15] <Hammer89> I'm not that bad, actually... just mortified of messing my system up a few days before the semester begins :P
[02:16] <Hammer89> oh... that shouldn't be any problem for me... I've installed Ubuntu before... just not dual-boot :P
[02:16] <NexaMac> ah
[02:16] <NexaMac> well
[02:16] <NexaMac> what kind of video card? :P
[02:16] <Hammer89> ATI Radeon 200m
[02:16] <Hammer89> already got the drivers installing
[02:17] <NexaMac> argh
[02:17] <NexaMac> good luck
[02:17] <NexaMac> YOU can help ME with that later
[02:17] <Hammer89> why do you say that?
[02:17] <NexaMac> i never managed to get those damn driver to work
[02:17] <Hammer89> hmm
[02:17] <terran4000> ATI drivers?
[02:18] <NexaMac> HP Pavillion laptop?
[02:18] <Hammer89> Toshiba Satellite
[02:18] <NexaMac> ah
[02:18] <NexaMac> 200M or 200M XPRESS?
[02:18] <Hammer89> XPRESS I think
[02:18] <NexaMac> are you using a script or a .run file?
[02:18] <Hammer89> Imma gonna restart now... maybe see if I can get compiz-fusion working
[02:18] <Schuenemann> what do I need to install in order to play rmvb?
[02:18] <Hammer89> ?
[02:19] <NexaMac> did you install the drivers through terminal? or did you open a file that installed them for you?
[02:19] <Hammer89> I used the restricted drivers manager...
[02:19] <NexaMac> haha :D
[02:19] <NexaMac> mine doesnt work :<
[02:19] <Hammer89> ah
[02:19] <Hammer89> bummer for you :D
[02:19] <NexaMac> my typical luck
[02:19] <NexaMac> yeah :P
[02:19] <Hammer89> bbiab
[02:19] <Gleipnir> Automatix2 is good for things like that.
[02:22] <jacob> how do i install the wireless driver
[02:22] <jacob> from a windows xp driver
[02:22] <terran4000> !ndiswrapper
[02:22] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:22] <terran4000> bleh
[02:22]  * Dr_willis thinks automatix2  is Poo. :)
[02:23] <terran4000> jacob: You can use ndiswrapper
[02:23] <Schuenemann> what do I need to install in order to play rmvb?
[02:23] <Dr_willis> !real
[02:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:23] <Gleipnir> !automatix2
[02:23] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[02:24] <terran4000> Pish posh, automatix is good enuf.
[02:24] <terran4000> *enough
[02:24] <NickPresta> do not use automatix. Use restricted manager
[02:24] <Schuenemann> Dr_willis, isn't there w32codecs anymore?
[02:25] <Dr_willis> Schuenemann,  there is one at the medibuntu repos I belive
[02:25] <Dr_willis> !medibuntu
[02:25] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[02:25] <Schuenemann> Dr_willis, required?
[02:25] <Dr_willis> Depends on what you are doing. :)
[02:25] <Dr_willis> !w32codecs
[02:25] <ubotu> The Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu »), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:25] <Schuenemann> Dr_willis, I want rmvb
[02:26] <Dr_willis> look at the medibuntu reposiutiory then. they may have it.  Check that url - it may have details.  I dont mess with rmvb in years
[02:26] <Lazarus> hi there
[02:26] <Dr_willis> I dont know if the w32codecs include support for rmvb or not
[02:26] <Lazarus> how would i password my boot grub?
[02:26] <terran4000> Hola
[02:26] <Schuenemann> mess? I just want to watch
[02:27] <Dr_willis> Lazarus,  grub has that feature. Check the grub docs at its homepage.
[02:27] <Lazarus> Dr_willis, okee dokee
[02:29] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: u there? i pasted
[02:30] <xoqa> hi
[02:30] <xoqa> how do you get compiz to work on kubuntu?
[02:30] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[02:30] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[02:30] <xoqa> in particular.. I MUST HAVE THIS THEME: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Quite+Minimal?content=72156
[02:30] <xoqa> :)
[02:30] <Hammer89> NexaMac: still here?
[02:31] <xoqa> thanks Dr_willis
[02:31] <NexaMac> Hammer89: aye
[02:31] <Hammer89> NexaMac: somethin' strange happened
[02:31] <NexaMac> do go on sir
[02:32] <Hammer89> NexaMac: it wont boot into Ubuntu anymore... the screen goes black... and stays that way
[02:32] <NexaMac> ctrl+alt+F1
[02:32] <Hammer89> NexaMac: I'm on Vista now
[02:32] <NexaMac> then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:32] <NexaMac> chose vesa as your driver
[02:33] <Hammer89> okay
[02:33] <Hammer89> bbiab
[02:33] <NexaMac> :P
[02:35] <Darktan_> ok, anyone know how to make Never Winter Nights work? I installed it through wine, run it through wine, spalash scteen coes up, then nothing
[02:35] <Darktan_> splash screen comes up*
[02:35] <Darktan_> God my typing sucks
[02:35] <terran4000> Darktan_: there is a native linux version of NWN
[02:35] <Darktan_> accoring to the readme it's only for DM server
[02:36] <Dr_willis> i tried to get NWN working under linux once.. egads.. it was a nightmare. :)
[02:36] <terran4000> Nope, there is a client.
[02:36] <Darktan_> where?
[02:36] <Dr_willis> There is a client for it. Chekc the NWN homepage./
[02:36] <terran4000> Aye, it's on their site
[02:36] <Darktan_> ahhh
[02:36] <Dr_willis> i also seem to recall some fancy song and dance to get it going right.
[02:36]  * Darktan_ fired ye olde Konqueror
[02:36] <Dr_willis> problem with binary onlyu games.. -  the disrtos upgrade.. and eventually break the old games.
[02:36] <Hammer89> NexaMac: lol... it worked on it's own 3rd try :P
[02:37] <NexaMac> o_O
[02:37] <NexaMac> sounds fishy
[02:37] <Hammer89> NexaMac: weird thing is... the loading screen isn't coming up
[02:37] <Hammer89> NexaMac: with the progress bar
[02:38] <NexaMac> awesome :p
[02:38] <NexaMac> you messed up somewhere x)
[02:38] <NexaMac> at grub do you have several choices like 386?
[02:38] <jacob> I just reinstalled and updated. My question is when updating it asked if I wanted to replace a config with the new installed one or to keep the current, should I have kept the current or went with the new installed one?
[02:38] <Hammer89> NexaMac: *I* messed up? All I did was install it... and the first time I booted it it didn't show the progress bar :P
[02:38] <NexaMac> ;)
[02:39] <jacob> it was for libqt4 I think
[02:39] <Darktan_> hmm, i have gold, looks fairly easy
[02:39] <Hammer89> I had several choices... memcheck... and safemode... or something
[02:39] <Darktan_> gonna try it
[02:39] <NexaMac> oh yeah
[02:39] <NexaMac> Hammer89:
[02:39] <NexaMac> open a temrinal and do sudo aptitude update
[02:39] <NexaMac> then sudo aptitude upgrade
[02:39] <Hammer89> okay
[02:40] <Gleipnir> aptitude...?
[02:40] <Gleipnir> Why?
[02:41] <NexaMac> why not?
[02:41] <Hammer89> I can't think of any reason not to... other than "don't fix what ain't broke"
[02:41] <Gleipnir> Personal opinion but I find that apt gives one more flexibility.
[02:41] <Darktan_> hmmm....is there a way to find a process and terminate it? task manager type thing maybe?
[02:41] <Gleipnir> top
[02:42] <Gleipnir> or ps -ef | grep <process name>
[02:42] <Darktan_> well, NWN is appearently running somewhere in wine and i can't uninstall it untill it stop working
[02:42] <Gleipnir> Not arguing, don't mistake my meaning, just wondering why you suggest aptitude.
[02:43] <ubuntu> Does anyone have any experiance with BusyBox?
[02:43] <Hammer89> when I go to enable visual effects, it returns this error: "The Composite extension is not available"
[02:43] <NexaMac> Darktan_: kill wine
[02:43] <NexaMac> Hammer89: its cause youre running vesa and havent set up xorg.conf properly et
[02:43] <NexaMac> yet*
[02:43] <Darktan_> in terminal or run command?
[02:43] <NexaMac> i WONT help you with ati drivers cause i never managed to get my own working
[02:43] <NexaMac> nvidia ftw
[02:43] <NexaMac> Darktan_: terminal
[02:44] <Gleipnir> pkill
[02:44] <Hammer89> I never ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure-etc,etc
[02:44] <NexaMac> ah
[02:44] <NexaMac> well
[02:44] <NexaMac> your video card is properly set up?
[02:44] <Hammer89> the driver installed...
[02:44] <NexaMac> allright
[02:44] <NexaMac> then you should edit the xorg.conf
[02:44] <NexaMac> i had to add AddARGBGLXVisuals "true" or something, but thats nvidia, not sure about ati
[02:44] <NexaMac> forums knows tho :/
[02:45] <Hammer89> hmm
[02:45] <NexaMac> wait
[02:45] <NexaMac> actually
[02:45] <NexaMac> i can find it out
[02:45] <NexaMac> sec
[02:45] <Hammer89> okay
[02:46] <thomas-newbie__> NickPresta: lol i lagged out or something and now I can't log in with my registered id
[02:46] <Darktan_> thx
[02:47] <NexaMac> Hammer89: http://pastebin.com/m63f36f97
[02:47] <NexaMac> add it to xorg.conf
[02:47] <NexaMac> just not the 1. 2. 3. etc
[02:47] <Hammer89> where can I find xorg.conf? :P
[02:48] <NexaMac> heh.. /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:48] <NexaMac> sudo gedit it or something
[02:48] <NexaMac> oh yeah, regular ubuntu aye?
[02:48] <Hammer89> yeah
[02:48] <NickPresta> thomas-newbie__, heh. That sucks. You can ghost your nickname. type: "/msg nickserv ghost" for help
[02:49] <NexaMac> then alt+F2 and type "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[02:49] <Hammer89> I opened it with nano from the terminal... there's nothing in it though?
[02:49] <NexaMac> eh..
[02:49] <NexaMac> you spelled it wrong then
[02:49] <NexaMac> capitol X11?
[02:49] <Hammer89> no
[02:49] <NexaMac> well with and empty xorg.conf your xserver doesnt work
[02:50] <NexaMac> with an*
[02:50] <Hammer89> but why is it empty...? :P
[02:50] <frank__> how do I activate nvidia drivers ?
[02:50] <NexaMac> ey, dont ask me :P
[02:50] <NexaMac> you made a backup earlier didnt you?
[02:50] <frank__> and compiz as well
[02:50] <Hammer89> a backup...?
[02:50] <NexaMac> frank__: what card?
[02:50] <NexaMac> no wait, that wasnt you
[02:50] <NexaMac> sorry
[02:51] <frank__> and compiz as well
[02:51] <Hammer89> I got it
[02:51] <frank__> 7600
[02:51] <Hammer89> it's not empty :P
[02:51] <NexaMac> thank f*ck
[02:51] <Hammer89> where do I add the text?
[02:51] <NexaMac> at the sections :P
[02:52] <limac> why can't i open googleearth?
[02:52] <NexaMac> good question
[02:52] <limac> it loading the app but then nothing is happening
[02:52] <limac> *it's
[02:53] <frank__> so where do I activate them?
[02:53] <NexaMac> frank__: heres the guide i used, it should work.. http://ubuntusoftware.info/beryl.html#nvidia
[02:53] <NexaMac> BUT
[02:53] <NexaMac> google for envy drivers installer or something
[02:53] <NexaMac> might solve it faster
[02:54] <NexaMac> unless your name is Hammer89 im not doing your googling for you :P
[02:54] <Hammer89> :P
[02:55] <Hammer89> I added that text, btw
[02:55] <NexaMac> great
[02:55] <NexaMac> now sudo reboot and try effects again :P
[02:55] <Hammer89> okay
[02:56] <terran4000> limac: I had/have the same problem. My guess it's an ATI driver problem assuming you have an ati card. If not, then I have no clue at all.
[02:56] <limac> i have an intel card
[02:57] <terran4000> Are you running a x64 system?
[02:57] <frank__> is there a way to do them in gui?
[02:58] <frank__> drivers I mean
[02:58] <terran4000> frank__: have you tried 'Envy'? It does a lot of the work for ya
[02:59]  * terran4000 thinks if it actually was called "Envy"
[02:59] <frank__> No What is it?
[02:59] <Hammer89> still not working
[02:59] <Hammer89> "The Composite extension is not available"
[03:00] <NexaMac> hmm
[03:00] <NexaMac> THAT problem i got around
[03:01] <NexaMac> but i cant recall how exactly
[03:01] <NexaMac> you should try the www.ubuntuforums.org
[03:01] <Hammer89> I heard something about xgl with ati cards
[03:01] <NexaMac> unless anyone else in here like terran4000 *cough* has the answer
[03:01] <Gleipnir> modprobe
[03:02] <Jucato> Hammer89: have you enabled Composite in your xorg.conf?
[03:02] <Hammer89> I'll check
[03:02] <Gleipnir> do you have compiz installed? and enabled it in xorg.conf?
[03:02] <Hammer89> isn't it installed by default on Ubuntu?
[03:02] <ubuntu> hi. im not coming off a new install or upgrade or anything, i dont remember what i did. but the last time i restarted my computer it wouldnt boot up properly. it goes past the grub then instead of getting my login screen i get a terminal-like screen and it says "BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7) built-in shell (ash)" then it drops down and instead of my username it says "(initramfs)" in a terminal style prompt. i have limited commands
[03:02] <ubuntu> while in this, but i can tell that i am on my main partition because im able to cd through folders. i looked around the internet and the most common responce was to remove "quiet splash" and add "all_generic_ide" to the thing in the grub (pressing escape then e for edit and b to boot it up) but that didnt work for me. a few sites i looked at also suggested just messing with "noacpi, nodma, noapic, and nolapic" i tried each one of those, with
[03:02] <ubuntu> and without the "quiet splash" there and none of it worked. What is this problem, and how can i fix it? Thanks in advance for the help.
[03:02] <NexaMac> Hammer89: it is
[03:03] <Jucato> Hammer89: on Ubuntu, it is. you can confirm with #ubuntu
[03:03] <terran4000> NexaMac:  What now about answers?
[03:03]  * terran4000 shakes fist.
[03:03] <Jucato> !envy
[03:03] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[03:03] <Gleipnir> ubuntu it sounds like you're in a rescue shell.
[03:03] <frank__> Resticted Manager ?
[03:03] <ubuntu> Gleipnir: i have no clue what it is, and its bugging me. how can i get out of it?
[03:04] <Gleipnir> is it a fresh install?
[03:04] <NexaMac> terran4000: compiz +ati :P
[03:04] <Jucato> frank__: yes. System Settings -> Advanced tab -> Restricted Manager
[03:04] <terran4000> frank__: they say Envy isn't supported .. meh. To hell with em, worked everytime I used it: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[03:04] <terran4000> NexaMac: Ah, to whom should I explain it to?
[03:04] <Jucato> !worksforme
[03:04] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[03:04] <Hammer89> *raises hand*
[03:04] <NexaMac> terran4000: Hammer89 please :)
[03:05] <NickPresta> terran4000, frank__, exactly. Envy or automatix isn't supported. If it borks your system, we cannot help you :)
[03:05] <frank__> I do not have System Settings
[03:05] <NexaMac> composite problem
[03:05] <frank__> just system
[03:05] <Jucato> frank__: Kubuntu?
[03:05] <frank__> yes
[03:05] <Jucato> frank__: it's in K Menu -> System Settings, just above (or below) Find or Help
[03:06] <terran4000> NickPresta, Jucato: I know I know. But until linux/kubuntu/whatever can make it 'easy' to enable and configure drivers ... why not.
[03:06] <Jucato> it's not a separate menu, but an app. (you can also run it with Alt+F2, "systemsettings"
[03:06] <Hammer89> this is the end of my xorg.conf file... after editing it based on what I was told to do: http://pastebin.com/m24f39143
[03:06] <terran4000> Hammer89: ok. I'll give it a looksee
[03:06] <Gleipnir> Terran, use what works.
[03:06] <Gleipnir> It's a question of what people are willing to help you with.
[03:06] <Jucato> Hammer89: you have repeated Extension Composite entries... both of which are set to disabled :)
[03:06] <Hammer89> yeah
[03:06] <Hammer89> I saw that... and scratched my head :P
[03:07] <NexaMac> Hammer89: i gotta hand it to you, giving out info like that, makes you hell of a lot easier to help then most people :<
[03:07] <Gleipnir> Personally I use automatix2. But I do Admin for a living, so borking my box is generally a fairly quick fix.
[03:07] <Hammer89> was that the only thing wrong with it?
[03:07] <terran4000> Hammer89: Alright ...
[03:07] <NexaMac> now, someone help me get compiz working on Kubuntu with a "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)" seeing as im too lazy to google for my own purpose
[03:08] <Jucato> Hammer89: try removing the section with Composite 0, then the one with Composite Disable set to Enable
[03:08] <terran4000> Hammer89: You want compiz correct? Do you have 1 or 2 monitors connected?
[03:08] <Gleipnir> Nexa, you may just be my favorite person ever for that...
[03:08] <Jucato> NexaMac: have you tried asking in #compiz-fusion
[03:08] <Hammer89> Jucato: I already deleted the one that was set to "disable" and changed the one set to "0" to 1
[03:08] <Jucato> might be more compiz users there than here
[03:08] <frank__> Ok I gtot it
[03:08] <Hammer89> terran4000: 1... I'm on my laptop
[03:08] <Jucato> Hammer89: hm.. ok...
[03:09] <frank__> How do I activate the compiz thing?
[03:09] <NexaMac> Gleipnir: for what? :x
[03:09] <terran4000> Hammer89: One thing that you WILL have to do if you want compiz is to get the newest drivers from ATI.
[03:09] <terran4000> Hammer89: kubuntu's repos don't have the newest available ones, which just happen to have gotten compiz functionality
[03:09] <Gleipnir> the pure slackerdom of that statement.
[03:09] <Hammer89> terran4000: I installed them just a little while ago from the restricted drivers manager.... I'm running ubuntu
[03:10] <NexaMac> Gleipnir: haha
[03:10] <terran4000> You'll also want to remove lines 4 - 14 from that pastebin
[03:10] <terran4000> Hammer89: yeah, restricted manager thingy doesn't have THE newest ones
[03:10] <NexaMac> Gleipnir: gimme a break, i google all day long for lazy asses to help them, is it too much to ask one question without googling myself? :<
[03:10] <terran4000> It has the newest ones that are tested good and true.
[03:10] <Hammer89> terran4000: Ah.... delete lines 4-14?
[03:10] <terran4000> Hammer89: after you get the new drivers :-)
[03:10] <Gleipnir> nonononno I do much the same, not to worry.
[03:11] <Gleipnir> I Identify. ;)
[03:11] <Hammer89> okay
[03:11] <NexaMac> so
[03:11] <NexaMac> will you google it for me? ;o
[03:11] <Gleipnir> Absosmeggin'loutly not.
[03:11] <Gleipnir> ;)
[03:11] <NexaMac> :<
[03:11] <NexaMac> FINE
[03:11] <frank__> I do not see it in the menu as in ubuntu
[03:11] <NexaMac> here i am trying to get used to KDE so i can help out with KDE specific problems.. but noooo
[03:11] <Hammer89> terran4000: I'm not seeing my card on their site...
[03:12] <Gleipnir> lol
[03:12] <Gleipnir> kde is simple.
[03:12] <Hammer89> terran4000: wait... I think I found it
[03:12] <Gleipnir> especially with how kubuntu puts it out.
[03:12] <terran4000> NexaMac: if you want compiz with intel drivers ... try compiz-fusion and using xglx (or whatever it was called)
[03:12] <NexaMac> Gleipnir: ubuntuforums got 0 results, halp plox
[03:12] <Gleipnir> aiglx you mean?
[03:12] <NexaMac> terran4000: cheers :p
[03:12] <terran4000> Aiglx ... I thought that was ATI only???
[03:12] <terran4000> Could be wrong of course
[03:13] <NexaMac> you know what?
[03:13] <NexaMac> ive got 12 hours until work starts
[03:13] <Gleipnir> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=351421&page=3
[03:13] <terran4000> There were 3 basic 'modes': 'normal', glx and aiglx  (or so)
[03:13] <NexaMac> i bet i can beat mario galaxies THEN fix compiz
[03:13] <Hammer89> terran4000: I'm not sure they have a driver for my card
[03:13] <NexaMac> Gleipnir: thanks :P
[03:14] <Hammer89> terran4000: they have one for the Radeon Xpress 200... but not 200m
[03:14] <NexaMac> Hammer89: quick question, did you check ATI's homepage?
[03:14] <terran4000> Hammer89: bollucks
[03:14] <NexaMac> cause they sure as hell had 200m drivers the last time i checked
[03:14] <Gleipnir> Terran4000: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIGLX
[03:14] <NexaMac> i just couldnt get them to work properly
[03:14] <Hammer89> NexaMac: not seeing them for linux.... maybe you were trying to install a win driver? :P
[03:14] <terran4000> Gleipnir: oo, nifty. Thanks for the update.
[03:15] <NexaMac> Hammer89: if i was, then i mustve been sleeping :o
[03:15] <Hammer89> lol
[03:15] <NexaMac> link me and ill check it
[03:15] <Gleipnir> Yuo're mocking me aren't you?
[03:15] <Hammer89> http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html
[03:15] <terran4000> Hammer89: if there is no driver for your card, then the repository "ati" driver's support compiz I believe (or at least from what I've read)
[03:16] <NexaMac> Hammer89: http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html
[03:16] <NexaMac> try them
[03:16] <Gleipnir> it should be fglrx.
[03:16] <NexaMac> pretty sure those work
[03:16] <Gleipnir> unless it's changed.
[03:16] <Hammer89> NexaMac: thing is... windows has a driver for the 200M...
[03:17] <terran4000> I don't think I've seen the 200m on the fglrx list, hmm ... lets go find out ^_^
[03:17] <Gleipnir> I quit using ATI long ago due to it's bastardly lack of support.
[03:17] <NexaMac> Hammer89: aye, but 200 should be ok
[03:17] <Gleipnir> Hammer, thats wrong thnking.
[03:17] <NexaMac> if not, a quick google search for them could give you interesting results
[03:17] <Hammer89> terran4000: I asked once on the compiz-fusion channel and they said the 200m should run compiz flawlessly
[03:17] <NexaMac> also theres the forums which Gleipnir so kindly ripped apart for me
[03:18] <terran4000> well, the 200m will ... depends on the driver.
[03:18] <Gleipnir> At your service.
[03:18] <Hammer89> Gleipnir: what do you mean?
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[03:18] <Gleipnir> Well, compiling a c based driver for win32 and compiling a c based driver for Linux are VERY different propositions.
[03:19] <BluesKaj> terran4000, Gleipnir, the ati default restricted driver for gutsy that actually works is the 8.37 , provides DRI and 3D , to some degree
[03:19] <Gleipnir> right, but it's crap.
[03:19] <BluesKaj> for the X200 series
[03:19] <Hammer89> **is getting lost**
[03:19] <Gleipnir> don't believe me? fire up glxgears. ;)
[03:19] <Gleipnir> Sorry hammer.
[03:19] <Gleipnir> Ok, basically Linux has a driver for ATI
[03:20] <terran4000> BluesKaj: It isn't until 8.4x that composite is supported though
[03:20] <NexaMac> hmm
[03:20] <terran4000> Which is what we're after
[03:20] <NexaMac> the glxgears
[03:20] <Gleipnir> You need to find out which driver it is.
[03:20] <NexaMac> are they supposed to go really really fast
[03:20] <Gleipnir> yeah
[03:20] <NexaMac> or is the fact that their moving steadily a good sign?
[03:20] <BluesKaj> the 8.43 driver doesn't do squat on my x200G
[03:20] <Gleipnir> if glxinfo doesn't have your gpu info... whoopsies.
[03:20] <Gleipnir> ;)
[03:20] <ubuntu> Gleipnir: sorry i just saw your message. no its not a fresh install
[03:20] <NexaMac> :<
[03:21] <Gleipnir> Ubuntu: have you tried startx?
[03:21] <ubuntu> yes
[03:21] <Gleipnir> steady isn't bad./
[03:21] <NexaMac> Gleipnir: wont work if hes where i think he is
[03:21] <ubuntu> thats not a command
[03:21] <BluesKaj> well, try the fgl_glxgears test with the 8.43 and see what happens
[03:21] <Hammer89> terran4000: was I supposed to be doing something? :P
[03:21] <Gleipnir> lol
[03:21] <NexaMac> you know the restore thingy?
[03:21] <Gleipnir> ubuntu, I think you're boned.
[03:21] <NexaMac> not an xserver, not a proper boot
[03:21] <ubuntu1> ha
[03:21] <ubuntu1> is there nothing i can do
[03:21] <NexaMac> reinstall :P
[03:21] <Gleipnir> try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:21] <thomas_newbie__> i'm trying to set a static lan ip address. I went to network settings  and tried to change it manually but it doesn't change after applying changes
[03:22] <ubuntu1> Gleipnir: i cant
[03:22] <terran4000> Hammer89: haha, not yet. just some idle chit-chat ^^
[03:22] <NexaMac> thomas_newbie__: man ifconfig
[03:22] <Hammer89> terran4000: alrighty
[03:22] <ubuntu1> Gleipnir: i dont have full terminal commands, i have just a small handfull of them
[03:22] <NexaMac> best answer i can give at least
[03:22] <Gleipnir> yeah, you're in a rescue shell.
[03:22] <Gleipnir> bugger.,
[03:22] <NexaMac> its the bluescreen of linux? ;o
[03:22] <Gleipnir> lol
[03:22] <terran4000> Hammer89: you have a x64 bit system?
[03:22] <Hammer89> 32 bit
[03:22] <terran4000> ah
[03:23] <ubuntu1> how can i get out of this rescue shell?
[03:23] <ubuntu1> there has to be a way
[03:23] <Gleipnir> ubuntu rescue shells are tricky, what did you do to get into it?
[03:23] <Gleipnir> lol
[03:23] <Gleipnir> modify something recently?
[03:23] <ubuntu1> thats the thing
[03:23] <ubuntu1> i dont know
[03:23] <Gleipnir> Are you accidentally booted from a cd?
[03:23] <ubuntu1> i dont remember doing anything that could cause damage
[03:23] <ubuntu1> im on a live cd now
[03:23] <thomas_newbie__> NexaMac: i want to do it using the GUI
[03:24] <Gleipnir> you have a limited shell on the livecd/
[03:24] <Gleipnir> ?
[03:24] <terran4000> Hammer89: my recommendation would be to try "Envy", though many people here would highly disagree with me.
[03:24] <NexaMac> thomas_newbie__: then i cant answer you :p maybe someone else can if you just wait it out, everyones busy ;o
[03:24] <Gleipnir> or on the system from disk?
[03:24] <Hammer89> terran4000: what is it?
[03:24] <terran4000> Hammer89: other than that, you can try getting the drivers from here: http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html
[03:24] <Hammer89> terran4000: and why would so many disagree? :P
[03:24] <NexaMac> terran4000:  i know i would, never worked for me :<
[03:24] <ubuntu1> Gleipnir: no, on the live cd im fine
[03:24] <terran4000> Point ;-)
[03:24] <ubuntu1> u have a full shell
[03:24] <ubuntu1> only a partial on the actual HD
[03:25] <Gleipnir> hrmmm
[03:25] <BluesKaj> err , sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ,,need permission to edit the file
[03:25] <Gleipnir> sid
[03:25] <Gleipnir> sudo
[03:25] <NexaMac> haha
[03:25] <terran4000> Hammer89: Envy is a perl script someone wrote to 'help' people install the "bleeding edge" drivers for ATI and NV
[03:25] <nosrednaekim> !envy
[03:25] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[03:25] <Gleipnir> shhhh maybe they won't notice!
[03:25] <terran4000> For some it works (like me) for other it's not
[03:25] <Gleipnir> !sudo
[03:25] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:26] <Hammer89> I installed drivers already... from the Restricted Drivers Manager...
[03:26] <terran4000> Yes yes, but like I said, the "Restricted Drivers Manager" doesn't have THE newest drivers available from ATI
[03:26] <NexaMac> BluesKaj: you COULD try sudo su before reconfigureing, but i highly recommend you dont
[03:26] <Gleipnir> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep ati
[03:26] <Hammer89> terran4000: right
[03:26] <NexaMac> at least dont forget to logout afterwards
[03:27] <terran4000> Hammer89: thus, we have to get the newest drivers in there ourself without the restricted manager
[03:27] <Hammer89> terran4000: one other thing... I was supposed to delete lines 4-14 (in pastebin) in my xorg.conf, right?
[03:27] <terran4000> Yeah
[03:27] <Hammer89> terran4000: gotcha
[03:27] <BluesKaj> NexaMac, I wouldn't anyway...I'm not the one needing to edit the xorg file
[03:28] <Gleipnir> Terran, most of the prepacked drivers should work ok.
[03:29] <terran4000> Gleipnir: Not for composite
[03:29] <Gleipnir> Well, at least the fglrx ones.
[03:29] <NexaMac> BluesKaj: well, if you know what youre doing you can just nano it
[03:29] <Hammer89> how do I install the driver from ATI's site?
[03:29] <NexaMac> you dont
[03:29] <richard_> how do i install aircrack?
[03:29] <Gleipnir> http://stanchina.net/~flavio/debian/fglrx-installer.html
[03:29] <NexaMac> you download them and install them from your HD ;o
[03:29] <NexaMac> youre gonna hate me after a couple more hours Hammer89
[03:29] <Gleipnir> sudo apt-get install aircrack
[03:30] <Hammer89> NexaMac: that's what I meant, lol
[03:30] <richard_> thanks
[03:30] <BluesKaj> terran4000, the newest drivers aren't necessarily working properly in gutsy on the lower end ATI Radeon onboards
[03:30] <Hammer89> NexaMac: already do, bro ;)
[03:30] <NexaMac> Hammer89: ill grow on ya
[03:30] <terran4000> Gleipnir: the repo fglrx are 8.37? something like that? the newest are 8.43.
[03:30] <terran4000> BluesKaj: true true, I never said they were ^_^
[03:30] <terran4000> BluesKaj: But he wants compiz, so he'll get it ... possibly ;-)
[03:30] <Hammer89> so, people, what am I s'posed to do? :P
[03:30] <Gleipnir> Terran, I admit, I'm not sure. I avoid ATI at the moment like the plague.
[03:31] <terran4000> Gleipnir: once I have the money for a new card same here!
[03:31] <NexaMac> i COULD help you Hammer89, but terran4000 is doing so well atm
[03:31] <BluesKaj> compiz ...bah humbug eyecandy :)
[03:31] <Gleipnir> Hammer, you have ati?
[03:31] <NexaMac> BluesKaj: humbug candy > no candy
[03:31] <terran4000> lol, but look at all the pretty wobbly windows ^_^
[03:31] <Hammer89> Gleipnir: yes
[03:32] <Hammer89> Gleipnir: Xpress 200m
[03:32] <Gleipnir> you're gonna bloody hate me m8.
[03:32] <Gleipnir> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide
[03:32] <Hammer89> should that work?
[03:32] <terran4000> Yes
[03:33] <Hammer89> sweet
[03:33] <Gleipnir> Remember, if you bork your ATI drivers, you can ctrl-alt-f2 to a shell, and modify your xorg.conf with vim or nano.
[03:33] <terran4000> If you want the newest drivers (and thus compiz) you'll have to go with the manual install
[03:33] <ubuntu1> so Gleipnir is there anything i can do?
[03:34] <NexaMac> allright got a really serious problem here guys
[03:34] <Gleipnir> If you do this... And you bugger your install, go back to Driver: VESA
[03:34] <NexaMac> my room is a mess and i cant find a RL rm commad
[03:34] <NexaMac> command
[03:34]  * terran4000 nods in agreement
[03:34] <BluesKaj> after trying the newest drivers , they have to be uninstalled previous to installing the default restricted one
[03:34] <Gleipnir> nah, Nexa, you want sort -u /dev/room
[03:34] <richard_> how to install aircrack
[03:34] <Gleipnir> sudo
[03:34] <Gleipnir> Apt-get
[03:34] <NexaMac> Gleipnir: more like rm /dev/room
[03:35] <Gleipnir> Install
[03:35] <Gleipnir> aircrack
[03:35] <Hammer89> terran4000: manual install... meaning?
[03:35] <richard_> tryed that doesnt work
[03:35] <NexaMac> really?
[03:35] <Gleipnir> failing that get the src pkg and install it.
[03:35] <richard_> k
[03:35] <richard_> how
[03:35] <Gleipnir> tgz or tar.gz
[03:35] <terran4000> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Install_the_Catalyst_7.12_Driver_Manually
[03:35] <NexaMac> hmm
[03:35] <Gleipnir> google
[03:35] <terran4000> Assuming you have Gutsy
[03:35] <NexaMac> richard_: it worked here
[03:35] <Gleipnir> aircrack
[03:35] <Hammer89> terran4000: I have Gutsy, thanks
[03:36] <terran4000> Good luck
[03:36] <Gleipnir> Nexa, you need a place to sleep.
[03:36] <NexaMac> no time
[03:36] <Gleipnir> sort is better.
[03:36] <NexaMac> ill oversleep for work then
[03:36] <NexaMac> cant risk it
[03:36] <NexaMac> so RM is a better choice
[03:36] <Gleipnir> lol
[03:36] <NexaMac> can sleep at work come to think of it
[03:36] <terran4000> With that, I must be off to move random boxes to a slightly less annoying part of the house.
[03:36] <terran4000> Cya'll later.
[03:36] <Hammer89> cya
[03:36] <NexaMac> glhf :P
[03:37] <Gleipnir> Terran
[03:37] <NexaMac> man i hate my neighbour
[03:37] <Gleipnir> The term is "BOXEN" thanks.
[03:37] <richard_> ok then how do i run aircrack....
[03:37] <NexaMac> hes been sniffing my router, and im too lazy to change the PW or encryption
[03:38] <NexaMac> richard_: what the hell man :P
[03:38] <Gleipnir> richard
[03:38] <richard_> yes
[03:38] <Gleipnir> what did you DL?
[03:38] <Gleipnir> Are you actually trying to hack WEP?
[03:38] <Gleipnir> Or what?
[03:38] <NexaMac> Gleipnir: "im boxen"?
[03:38] <NexaMac> got some boxen to do ò_O
[03:38] <Gleipnir> boxen is the plural of box.
[03:38] <Gleipnir> ;)
[03:38] <richard_> yeah but im a total noob :)
[03:39] <Gleipnir> nubkin
[03:39] <Gleipnir> Ok look.
[03:39] <Gleipnir> What's your connection like?
[03:39] <NexaMac> please be 56k please be 56k
[03:39] <Gleipnir> HAHAHAHA
[03:39] <richard_> dl at about 200k
[03:39] <Gleipnir> ok
[03:39] <Gleipnir> pull down this:
[03:39] <NexaMac> wait
[03:40] <Gleipnir> waiting...
[03:40] <NexaMac> before you go on Gleipnir, how do you think the OP's will react to you teaching kiddos to hack WEP? :x
[03:40] <NexaMac> or rather crack wep
[03:40] <Gleipnir> Fair enough
[03:40] <ardchoille> :)
[03:40] <richard_> kiddos?
[03:40] <NexaMac> tell him to google, or what to google, but dont act like your a talking manual
[03:40] <Gleipnir> Richard, I assume this is your OWN WEP considering you already have a hardline to your current box?
[03:40] <richard_> yes....
[03:41] <NexaMac> NOW were on the right track
[03:41] <Gleipnir> And you are ONLY TESTING YOUR OWN NETWORK?
[03:41] <richard_> yessss....
[03:41] <lascar> !firefox
[03:41] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[03:42] <Gleipnir> And it is legal to Posess, and USE network security tools in your country?
[03:42] <richard_> yes
[03:42] <Gleipnir> And that you will use those tools in accordince with common law?
[03:42] <richard_> yes
[03:42] <NexaMac> richard_: if youre one of the annoying asshats in MY neighbour hood using MY internet connection that I pay for, im gonna have to either hunt you or Gleipnir down :<
[03:43] <richard_> i wont dont worry : )
[03:43] <Gleipnir> right then, bases covered. Google backtrack and have a good time with it. Great NETWORK SECURITY CHECKING PROGRAMS.
[03:43] <Jay-Oh-En> !pure
[03:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pure - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <NexaMac> i gotta say, i love your approach Gleipnir, youre worse then blizzard copyright agreements when it comes to keeping the crowd waiting :P
[03:44] <Gleipnir> !pureftpd
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pureftpd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <NexaMac> hahhaha
[03:44] <Gleipnir> Better to be safe than buggered sir/madam.
[03:44] <Gleipnir> !pure-ftpd
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pure-ftpd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <Gleipnir> DAMN!
[03:45] <Jay-Oh-En> purekde?
[03:45] <NickPresta> !search pureftp | Gleipnir
[03:45] <ubotu> Found: ftpd, wink, sources.list-#ubuntu-effects, editors, keys-#ubuntu-effects, brokenkde4, xubuntu-channels, fluxbuntu, girl, xubuntu
[03:45] <NexaMac> richard_: if youre really into it, and willing to do time in the slammer (knowing that a lot of countries punish you pretty harshly for wep cracking) head over to youtube and look up "wep sniffing"
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> !purekde
[03:45] <Gleipnir> http://www.pureftpd.org/project/pure-ftpd\
[03:45] <ubotu> purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[03:45] <NickPresta> Gleipnir, nope, not in Gutsy, apparently.
[03:45] <Gleipnir> not at all.
[03:45] <Gleipnir> sokay, questionable at best.
[03:45] <Gleipnir> ;)
[03:46] <NexaMac> now
[03:46] <NexaMac> back to compiz problems
[03:46] <thomas_newbie__> I have a lan setup at my home with 3 computers. I want to make sure that my router doesn not assign new ip's to each computer when restarted so I can port forward to my computer to reach my server. How do I keep my LAN ip static??
[03:46] <NexaMac> after that, one of you smartasses can assist me in getting my wii to use a proper resolution :<
[03:46] <Gleipnir> lol
[03:46] <Gleipnir> LOL
[03:46] <Gleipnir> HAHAHAHAHHAHA
[03:46] <Gleipnir> Thomas, use static IP's
[03:46] <terran4000> I came back at a weird moment ...
[03:46] <NexaMac> thomas_newbie__: disable DHCP in your router?
[03:46] <terran4000> NexaMac: Just go to the wii setup menu >_>
[03:47] <terran4000> And afk again ^_^
[03:47] <thomas_newbie__> NexaMac: do I need DHCP???
[03:47] <NexaMac> terran4000: doesnt beat the bash quote where this guy came in right afte rthe sentence "i shook my coca cola can", and the first thing he saw was something like "now i got it all over, it exploded in my hand and my damn keyboard is sticky"
[03:47] <NexaMac> thomas_newbie__: no you DONT need DHCP
[03:47] <NexaMac> terran4000: wii menu didnt want to corporate
[03:47] <NexaMac> its MS all over again
[03:47] <NexaMac> i swear
[03:48] <thomas_newbie__> NexaMac: why do I have it ???
[03:48] <Gleipnir> lol
[03:48] <NexaMac> XD
[03:48] <Gleipnir> because it's easy.
[03:48] <NexaMac> at least i get a good laugh
[03:48] <thomas_newbie__> NexaMac: and can't I keep DHCP and just configure through Kunubuntu or windows XP for it to stick to a particular address like 192.168.1.100
[03:48] <NexaMac> thomas_newbie__: whats your standard gateway?
[03:48] <NexaMac> well i guess you can
[03:48] <NexaMac> hold on ill check my router
[03:49] <Gleipnir> no.
[03:49] <Gleipnir> it's dhcp or static
[03:49] <thomas_newbie__> hmm
[03:49] <thomas_newbie__> i see
[03:49] <NexaMac> yes you can keep DHCP on your router
[03:49] <NexaMac> true story Gleipnir
[03:49] <NexaMac> but then you have to assign each and every computer a static IP
[03:50] <NexaMac> or they will all end up using the same IP :/
[03:50] <NexaMac> at least thats what happened here
[03:50] <Gleipnir> ...
[03:50] <thomas_newbie__> k no problem
[03:50] <thomas_newbie__> i wanna start by changing this ip :S
[03:50] <BluesKaj> nite all, sacktime here
[03:50] <Gleipnir> Nexa, you're makin' me head hurtl.
[03:50] <NexaMac> and with 7 computers in the house it was more work then joy
[03:50] <NexaMac> Gleipnir: seriously, DHCP is enabled on my router, but it fucks up from time to time, so if he wants it that way, i aint stopping him
[03:50] <Gleipnir> lol
[03:51] <Gleipnir> You
[03:51] <NexaMac> fail?
[03:51] <Gleipnir> Are a sadist.
[03:51] <NexaMac> :D
[03:51] <thomas_newbie__> NexaMac: what do you mean fucks up from time to time?
[03:51] <Gleipnir> And I am missing my pizza.
[03:51] <NickPresta> !ohmy
[03:51] <ardchoille> !language | NexaMac
[03:51] <ubotu> NexaMac: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:51] <NexaMac> thomas_newbie__: well, every time someone connects, it resets IP's
[03:51] <Gleipnir> lol
[03:51] <Gleipnir> lol
[03:51] <thomas_newbie__> someone connects what you mean
[03:51] <NexaMac> NickPresta: topic had nothing to do with it, if you mind the language, i appologize
[03:51] <Gleipnir> yeah, thats a problem. ;)
[03:51] <NexaMac> its 5am.. i forget :<
[03:52] <Gleipnir> !ohmy
[03:52] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:52] <Gleipnir> HAHAHA
[03:52] <NexaMac> hmm
[03:52] <Gleipnir> sweet kittens, really?
[03:52] <NexaMac> you know
[03:52] <NexaMac> i could save myself a lot of time installing linux on the remaining 4 computers
[03:52] <NexaMac> since IM not using them, i could just say "their broken lolol, no chance of redeeming"
[03:52] <NexaMac> would never have to lift a finger again :D
[03:53] <Gleipnir> Nexa.
[03:53] <NexaMac> whaaat? :<
[03:53] <thomas_newbie__> NexaMac: hey I didn't get it...why does it reset ip's? someone connects, who?
[03:53] <Gleipnir> Those boxen should be running debian.
[03:53] <NexaMac> x)
[03:53]  * dthacker pokes NexaMac with a security update
[03:53] <Gleipnir> HAHAHHAHAHA
[03:53] <Gleipnir> HAHHAHAHAHA
[03:53] <NexaMac> >_>
[03:53]  * Gleipnir highfives dthacker
[03:54]  * NexaMac drops "Security holes, the entire collection" - book nr.4 on dthacker's foot
[03:54] <NexaMac> windows security holes*
[03:54] <dthacker> ouch! Hey, the thick book is the Windows book!
[03:54] <NexaMac> thomas_newbie__: because DHCP is enabled :>
[03:54] <NexaMac> if youre not using it, disable/uninstall it
[03:54] <NexaMac> keyrule
[03:55] <Gleipnir> afk
[03:55] <NexaMac> disable DHCP in your router, seriously, then try setting a static ip
[03:55] <NexaMac> dont you dare Gleipnir
[03:55] <thomas_newbie__> NexaMac: but what would be the benefits/needs of using DHCP in my network
[03:55] <NexaMac> automatic IP >_>
[03:55] <thomas_newbie__> ok
[03:55] <thomas_newbie__> lol
[03:55] <Gleipnir> lol
[03:55] <NexaMac> as in NOT static
[03:55] <thomas_newbie__> as in DYNAMIC
[03:55] <Gleipnir> quick cancer break nexa.
[03:55] <thomas_newbie__> :)
[03:56] <NexaMac> *sigh*
[03:56] <Gleipnir> Thomkas.
[03:56] <wolfman2323> have anyone seen juan carlos??
[03:56] <NexaMac> if youre gonna correct me, i can point you in the direction of google.com thomas_newbie__
[03:56] <Gleipnir> There aren't really.
[03:56] <Gleipnir> just simplicity
[03:56] <NexaMac> im not getting paid to pretend to help you
[03:56] <thomas_newbie__> NexaMac: i wasn't correcting yo uwas I
[03:56] <thomas_newbie__> NexaMac: lol man
[03:56] <Gleipnir> Static IP's are a PITA upfront, but work fine.
[03:56] <NexaMac> !ohmy
[03:56] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:57] <NexaMac> see that Gleipnir?
[03:57] <thomas_newbie__> NexaMac: chill....it wasn't correction I was asking you if thats a true statement aswell lol
[03:57] <Gleipnir> Set those up and you're squeare.
[03:57] <NexaMac> no shortened forms plox
[03:57] <NexaMac> thomas_newbie__: to chill id have to get upset first
[03:57] <NexaMac> aint happening at 5am :<
[03:57] <Gleipnir> That's just not fair.
[03:57] <Gleipnir> ;)
[03:57] <NexaMac> :D
[03:57] <NexaMac> argh
[03:57] <thomas_newbie__> NexaMac: sorry for offending you buddy, thx for help
[03:57] <NexaMac> ive been here for what.. 5 hours now, planning on setting up compiz on this comp, so far ive accomplished to help people >_>
[03:58] <Gleipnir> Nexa.
[03:58] <NexaMac> thomas_newbie__: i wasnt offended o_O
[03:58] <NexaMac> at least pay attention :p
[03:58] <Gleipnir> You've done a public service.
[03:58] <NexaMac> in other words, accomplishied nothing? :P
[03:58] <NexaMac> accomplished
[03:58] <thomas_newbie__> so I have to connect to my routers ip and disable it there right and then change it in kubuntu settings?
[03:58] <Gleipnir> Now quit being bitter.
[03:58] <Gleipnir> ;)
[03:58] <NexaMac> well i never
[03:58] <NexaMac> give it a try thomas_newbie__
[03:59] <thomas_newbie__> i'm scared HERE I GO!
[03:59] <Gleipnir> back in a jiffy.
[03:59] <NexaMac> keep in mind your router will most liekly restart immeadeatly tho :p
[03:59] <NexaMac> hah
[03:59] <NexaMac> second time i hear that sentence in my life
[03:59] <NexaMac> first was simpsons
[03:59] <NexaMac> grampa simpsons "ill be BACK in a jiffyyyy"
[03:59] <thomas_newbie__> I assume that something is wrong with my router cause my internet connection is constantly restarting :S especially annoying when playingn games
[03:59] <Gleipnir> did it end with : "Captain spiffy"?
[04:00] <NexaMac> >_>
[04:00] <NexaMac> Gleipnir: that one was toooo dry
[04:00] <NexaMac> thomas_newbie__: my guess is youve got a shitty ISP :P
[04:00] <NexaMac> unless its like all the time
[04:00] <Gleipnir> !ohmy
[04:00] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[04:00] <NexaMac> it tends to happen when im NOT here, getting me banned from most of the IRC channels for excess flooding :<
[04:00] <thomas_newbie__> huh thats not bad language
[04:00] <NexaMac> Gleipnir: its on!
[04:00] <NexaMac> thomas_newbie__: sh itty is
[04:01] <thomas_newbie__> we should OHMY Gleipnir
[04:01] <NexaMac> so if your computers name is itty, you can SH it
[04:01] <NexaMac> olol
[04:01] <Gleipnir> lol
[04:01] <NexaMac> cant*
[04:01] <Gleipnir> I'm just bitter because my pizza isn't here.
[04:01] <NexaMac> :D
[04:01] <thomas_newbie__> lol ok here i'm gonna try this manuveur
[04:01] <NexaMac>  /dodge
[04:01] <NexaMac> if it doesnt work, highlight Gleipnir
[04:01] <NexaMac> im trying to set up compiz x)
[04:02] <Gleipnir> hey now....
[04:02] <NexaMac> you know what i really miss the most about gnome?
[04:02] <NexaMac> gnometris
[04:03] <Gleipnir> ...
[04:03] <|Quest|> anyone happen to know how to passively decrypt ssl packets from a mitm?
[04:03] <Gleipnir> You know you can install that under kde right?
[04:03] <NexaMac> its tertis fi youre too lazy to google
[04:03] <NexaMac> Gleipnir: why would i want to?
[04:03] <NexaMac> :P
[04:03] <Gleipnir> Quest... that's only borderline legal
[04:03] <Gleipnir> not th right place for it.
[04:03] <NexaMac> wheres the synaptics package manager in kubuntu?
[04:04] <NexaMac> no im not gonna google that
[04:04] <NexaMac> google will tell me to go back to windows
[04:05] <bazhang> !adept
[04:05] <thomas_newbie__> ok this is poop
[04:05] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[04:05] <NexaMac> yar i found it bazhang
[04:05] <NexaMac> thanks tho :P
[04:05] <thomas_newbie__> so now i disabled DHCP. I want to assign a new IP it won't change it...
[04:05] <Gleipnir> Nexa
[04:06] <Gleipnir> Use apt-get
[04:06] <Gleipnir> sheesh
[04:06] <NexaMac> thomas_newbie__: you wouldve been done hours ago with terminal :P
[04:06] <bazhang> thomas_newbie__: you cant do that with dhcp normally
[04:06] <NexaMac> Gleipnir: i forgot what i was looking for :|
[04:06] <Gleipnir> gnomtris
[04:06] <NexaMac> nur
[04:06] <thomas_newbie__> bazhang: what?
[04:06] <thomas_newbie__> bazhang: i disabled DHCP so I can assign a static LAN IP
[04:07] <Lazarus> does anyone know a text phonic reading program for linux?
[04:07] <Hammer89> w00t... compiz is alivee!
[04:07] <bazhang> thomas_newbie__: normally you need to get your isp to give you a true static IP
[04:07] <Gleipnir> Thomas: set your router for static
[04:07] <Gleipnir> and then setup your box for static.
[04:08] <thomas_newbie__> hmmmm
[04:08] <Gleipnir> should be 192.168.*.* for linksys.
[04:08] <NexaMac> Hammer89: grats :D
[04:08] <Hammer89> :D
[04:08] <Lazarus> as in something that would read any given text file in an automatic manner
[04:08] <Lazarus> ive heard of something like it before
[04:08] <Lazarus> phonetically, aloud
[04:08] <NexaMac> Lazarus: losing your vision? :<
[04:09] <thomas_newbie__> Gleipnir: yes, i'm there...advanced routing --> static routing ---> then i have to assign subnet mask, gateway, IP
[04:09] <Lazarus> NexaMac, heh, no
[04:09] <NexaMac> cant recall one, but search for phonetic in adept? :o
[04:09] <Lazarus> i just thought itd be cool to have stuff read to me while i multitask and do other things
[04:09] <Lazarus> an faq, a forum, an ebook
[04:09] <NexaMac> thomas_newbie__: ifconfig should give you all that info
[04:09] <Lazarus> i could get more info in at once
[04:09] <Lazarus> game, do some syntax
[04:10] <NexaMac> Lazarus: with todays standard in forums, you can forget all about phonetical :P
[04:10] <NexaMac> argh
[04:10] <NexaMac> my head fills up and empties
[04:10] <NexaMac> Gleipnir: whats the command for the spinning wheels?
[04:10] <NexaMac> glx
[04:10] <Gleipnir> Thomas: you want to create a subnet.
[04:11] <NexaMac> nvm
[04:11] <Gleipnir> ./spinwheels
[04:11] <NexaMac> x)
[04:11] <NexaMac> glxgears
[04:11] <NexaMac> tbh
[04:11] <Gleipnir> AKA glxgears.
[04:11] <Gleipnir> lol
[04:11] <ubuntu> i have all my data (both the OS and my /home directory) on the same partition now, but somthing happened and now i cant boot up. could i possibly make like a 10gb partition for the OS, and then have a seprate partiton for my /home directory?
[04:12] <Gleipnir> of course.
[04:12] <Gleipnir> ubuntu
[04:12] <Gleipnir> provided you have 10 gigs free.
[04:12] <ubuntu> would there be anyway to get rid of the OS on my current partition
[04:12] <Gleipnir> eventually.
[04:12] <ubuntu> so i dont have to burn 100gb of cds
[04:12] <NexaMac> i rememer when i was young, format c: fixed everything
[04:12] <NexaMac> remember*
[04:13] <Gleipnir> ewwww.
[04:13] <NexaMac> :D
[04:13] <Gleipnir> ubuntu, is the disk full?
[04:13] <NexaMac> we all gotta start somewhere!
[04:13] <Dr_willis> NexaMac,  of acccidently using warez from a dial up bbs.. fixed EVERYTHING and then some
[04:13] <ubuntu> no
[04:13] <NexaMac> for me it was win 3.11
[04:13] <ubuntu> i have 50gb
[04:13] <ubuntu> free
[04:13] <NexaMac> othello <3
[04:13] <NexaMac> Dr_willis: warez are overrated, gnometris ftw
[04:13] <Gleipnir> ok, then open the box with ptparted or gparted.
[04:13] <ubuntu> ya
[04:13] <ubuntu> i know how to make partitions and such
[04:14] <ubuntu> but what im wondering is
[04:14] <Gleipnir> resize the partition, and set the new one to boot.
[04:14] <ubuntu> oh ok
[04:14] <ubuntu> what would i do about the current one thought?
[04:14] <ubuntu> though*
[04:14] <Gleipnir> then install an os onto it.
[04:14] <ubuntu> since i would just want my /home on there
[04:14] <Gleipnir> ignore it for now.
[04:14] <ubuntu> and right now it has everything
[04:14] <ubuntu> how would i remove kubuntu from it
[04:14] <NexaMac> !compiz
[04:14] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[04:14] <ubuntu> i couldnt just delete it all off of there could i?
[04:14] <Gleipnir> resize and create a clean bootable, Move everything over once you have that.
[04:15] <ubuntu> i cant do that
[04:15] <ubuntu> i have 100gb of data
[04:15] <Gleipnir> why not....?
[04:15] <ubuntu> music, movies, etc
[04:15] <Gleipnir> and?
[04:15] <ubuntu> how would i move that overt
[04:15] <ubuntu> over*
[04:15] <Gleipnir> You don't have to.
[04:15] <ubuntu> what are you saying?
[04:15] <NexaMac> ubuntu: leave the pr0n save the rest
[04:15] <NexaMac> :P
[04:15] <Gleipnir> unless you want to make a new partition.
[04:16] <ubuntu> NexaMac: no pr0n, anime
[04:16] <Gleipnir> ok, hang on. Sorry I'm not being clear.
[04:16] <ubuntu> Gleipnir: no, the only new partition i want is for the OS
[04:16] <Gleipnir> make a new partition.
[04:16] <ubuntu> alright
[04:16] <Gleipnir> Set it to bootable.
[04:16] <ubuntu> alright
[04:16] <Gleipnir> boot that part.
[04:16] <Gleipnir> And you're good.
[04:17] <ubuntu> but Kubuntu will still be on my current partition will my data
[04:17] <Gleipnir> that should give you a fully working system.
[04:17] <Dr_willis> external usb hard drives.. are very handy
[04:17] <ubuntu> how would i get rid of i
[04:17] <ubuntu> t
[04:17] <Gleipnir> right, so rm -rf everything but your ~
[04:17] <Gleipnir> er... /home/name.
[04:17] <ubuntu> oh, you CAN delete everything if your not booted to it?
[04:17] <Gleipnir> yeah, it's all files.
[04:17] <ubuntu> as long as you have privlages
[04:17] <ubuntu> i assume
[04:17] <Gleipnir> right
[04:18] <ubuntu> thank you very much
[04:18] <ubuntu> i was going to HATE
[04:18] <Gleipnir> make sure it's not your / partition though.
[04:18] <Gleipnir> lol
[04:18] <ubuntu> burnign 100gb
[04:18] <ubuntu> to CDs
[04:18] <ubuntu> not even DVDs
[04:18] <ubuntu> since this stupid dvd burner wont burn
[04:18] <Gleipnir> yeah... no good.
[04:18] <ubuntu> well im off to repartition
[04:18] <ubuntu> thanks
[04:18] <Gleipnir> np m8.
[04:19] <|Quest|> anyone happen to know how to passively decrypt ssl packets from a mitm?
[04:19] <Gleipnir> QUEST, that doesn't belong here.
[04:21] <drif> something wrong with this picture? using fairly modern pc (Athlon 2800+ with 1Gb RAM) and transferring files between two sata-drives achieves only 5MB/sec speeds...
[04:21] <ardchoille> |Quest|: Queries of a questionable legal nature are not welcome in this channel.
[04:21] <drif> Gb=GB
[04:21] <|Quest|> ardchoille ok
[04:22] <Gleipnir> Drif, not bad, not great.
[04:22] <drif> Gleipnir: not bad?
[04:22] <Gleipnir> HA
[04:22] <Gleipnir> misread that sorry.
[04:22] <Gleipnir> lol
[04:23] <Gleipnir> dma on?
[04:23] <Gleipnir> hdparm -tT /dev/sd*
[04:24] <NexaMac> ill brb testing compiz
[04:25] <terran4000> Aloho
[04:25] <Gleipnir> 'lo
[04:25] <drif> Gleipnir: what does -tT exactly do?
[04:25] <Gleipnir> open konsole: type hdparm --help
[04:25] <drif> Gleipnir: atleast on help page -t represents perform device read timings..
[04:26] <Gleipnir> yup.
[04:26] <drif> Gleipnir: that's why I asked
[04:26] <Gleipnir>  -T   perform cache read timings
[04:27] <Gleipnir> hdparm /dev/sd* should give you basic information.
[04:28] <drif> Gleipnir: I've though hdparm doesn't support sata that well - if at all
[04:28] <Gleipnir> true.
[04:28] <Gleipnir> That's because you're *supposed* to use sdparm
[04:29] <Gleipnir> which doesn't ship with ubuntu.
[04:29] <knewuser> Anyone got time for a wifi question?
[04:29] <Gleipnir> whats up knew?
[04:29] <terran4000> What's up knewuser
[04:29] <terran4000> ><
[04:29] <Gleipnir> lol
[04:30] <drif> Gleipnir: atleast it's provided on repository
[04:30] <Gleipnir> yeah... there are a lot of things in the repos...
[04:30] <knewuser> I just migrated to kubuntu from PCLOS. Clean install on a gateway laptop. I've got three problems, the first of which is that the wifi card keeps freezing.
[04:31] <drif> Gleipnir: why suggest hdparm in the first place?
[04:31] <Gleipnir> ok, what kind of card?
[04:31] <knewuser> It's been raised in the forums, but I've been unable to find a response.
[04:31] <knewuser> Realtek
[04:31] <Gleipnir> because it gives you information.
[04:31] <terran4000> knewuser: What do you mean "wifi card keeps freezing"?
[04:32] <drif> Gleipnir: no dice with sdparm either
[04:32] <Gleipnir> no... sdparm has different options.
[04:33] <Gleipnir> SATA is not SCSI
[04:33] <knewuser> terran400: when I activate the wireless network connection, the status bar hangs and nothing else can be done.
[04:33] <terran4000> Anyone know if konqueror does IRC?
[04:33] <Gleipnir> No matter how much the kernel devs want to think it is.
[04:33] <drif> Gleipnir: [06:29] <Gleipnir> That's because you're *supposed* to use sdparm <- what was this then?
[04:34] <Gleipnir> sdparm is designed to handle scsi and sata(in a backhand manner)
[04:34] <Gleipnir> SATA is more like IDE.
[04:34] <drif> Gleipnir: and naturally I'm not using same options automatically - even -a doesn't work with sdparm "
[04:34] <drif>  Additional sense: Invalid command operation code
[04:34] <drif> REQUEST SENSE failed
[04:35] <nexamac> back!
[04:35] <nexamac> !ot
[04:35] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:36] <NexaMac> actually
[04:36] <terran4000> nexamac: how's the compiz
[04:36] <Nexano> not working!
[04:36] <Nexano> sorry
[04:36] <terran4000> bummers
[04:36] <Nexano> i hate that answer myself
[04:36]  * terran4000 wobbles his window at you.
[04:36] <Nexano> i enabled a lot of effects, did the standard ubuntu procedure, but nothing happens :/
[04:36] <Gleipnir> weird, I get info from my drive.
[04:36] <Nexano>  /spit :P
[04:37] <Gleipnir> */dev/sda
[04:37] <drif> both sda and sdb give same result
[04:38] <Gleipnir> no offense, but are you sure it's SATA?
[04:38] <Gleipnir> */dev/hda maybe?
[04:39] <drif> Gleipnir: crystal.
[04:39] <drif> Gleipnir: installed both of'em just few weeks ago
[04:39] <terran4000> Nexano: you also did > compiz --replace
[04:39] <terran4000> right?
[04:40] <Gleipnir> what version of kubuntu are you using?
[04:40] <drif> Gleipnir: me? 7.04
[04:40] <Gleipnir> ...
[04:40] <Gleipnir> that MIGHT still be handling SATA as hda
[04:41] <Gleipnir> or hd*
[04:41] <drif> Gleipnir: I'm 100% sure those are sda and sdb
[04:42] <Gleipnir> Well amigo, I may have to admit to you that despite my sysadminy goodness, I have no idea why neither of those are reporting drive info to you.
[04:43] <terran4000> knewuser: still around?
[04:43] <knewuser> Terran4000 Yep.
[04:44] <knewuser> It's 	Realtek RTL 8185L
[04:44] <knewuser> Whenever I try to activate a wireless connection, it hangs at 28% and no other commands can be executed.
[04:44] <drif> Gleipnir: ran those timings - cached reads A: 255.19MB/sec B: 209.53MB/sec, buffered A: 43.13MB/sec B: 40.86BM/sec
[04:44] <knewuser> Though it can see the wireless network, so *something* is working.
[04:45] <Gleipnir> drif, should be higher than tha.
[04:45] <terran4000> knewuser: and my activate the wireless connection you mean by clicking on the knetwork manager and selecting your network right?
[04:45] <Gleipnir> that.
[04:45] <terran4000> >
[04:46] <Gleipnir> significantly.
[04:46] <Nexano> terran4000, Gleipnir: how do I activate compiz in KDE? :>
[04:46] <knewuser> Correct
[04:46] <terran4000> Nexano: compiz --replace
[04:46] <terran4000> I think
[04:46] <Nexano> :<
[04:46] <Nexano> didnt do the trick
[04:46] <drif> Gleipnir: your results are?
[04:46] <Nexano> no wobly windows or spinning cube :<
[04:46] <drif> Gleipnir: those are first generation sata-drives
[04:47] <Gleipnir> Timing cached reads:   1282 MB in  2.00 seconds = 641.40 MB/sec
[04:47] <Gleipnir>  Timing buffered disk reads:   86 MB in  3.38 seconds =  25.48 MB/sec
[04:47] <terran4000> Nexano: when you do > compiz --replace  on the command line, what is the output?
[04:47] <knewuser> Terran4000: For what it's worth, I have the laptop next to the wireless router and, while it registers the network, it lists the signal strength as -1.
[04:48] <drif> Gleipnir: how come the buffered is much lower than mine?
[04:48] <drif> but yes I can see the difference with cached results
[04:48] <Gleipnir> laptop. :(
[04:48] <Nexano> terran4000: terminal tells me XGL isnt present
[04:48] <Gleipnir> lol
[04:48] <Nexano> knewuser: ndiswrapper?
[04:49] <knewuser> Nexano: I've not installed it yet.
[04:49] <Nexano> terran4000: http://pastebin.com/mc7395ab
[04:49] <Nexano> knewuser: whats your network card?
[04:49] <terran4000> knewuser: hmm, new drivers using windows drivers and ndis 'might' do the trick
[04:49] <drif> Gleipnir: could be something with chipset support as well..
[04:50] <knewuser> Nexano: 	Realtek RTL 8185L
[04:50] <Nexano> ah
[04:50] <Nexano> never touched :<
[04:50] <Nexano> could try ndiswrapper tho, its always worked for me
[04:50] <Nexano> tho all my wireless are bcm
[04:50] <knewuser> Terran4000: Do you think I should give ndiswrapper a shot?
[04:50] <Gleipnir>  shouldn't be.
[04:50] <Gleipnir> but possibe.
[04:51] <Gleipnir> bugger all that's strange.
[04:51] <terran4000> knewuser: it might be worth a shot. I've also never had experience with any realtek stuff ... but new/different drivers are always worth a shot.
[04:52] <Nexano> terran4000: did you check the pastebin?
[04:52] <terran4000> aye
[04:52] <Nexano> any suggestions?
[04:52] <drif>  Gleipnir: nforce2
[04:52] <terran4000> You have a ati card right?
[04:52] <terran4000> the 200m?
[04:52] <terran4000> or was that someone else?
[04:52] <Nexano> naw
[04:52] <Nexano> that was hammer89
[04:52] <Gleipnir> should be ok though,
[04:52] <Nexano> lspci
[04:53] <Nexano> wrong window
[04:53] <terran4000> lol
[04:53] <Nexano> urgh
[04:53] <Nexano> interl built in
[04:53] <Nexano> i810
[04:53] <Nexano> is my driver
[04:53] <drif> Gleipnir: my usual luck, things work more smoothly hardware-wise on windows but I'd prefer using linux
[04:53] <terran4000> You 'can' try installing xserver-xgl
[04:54] <Nexano> trying :P
[04:54] <Gleipnir> ..
[04:54] <terran4000> OOOO
[04:54] <knewuser> Oh dear. This is problematic.
[04:54] <Gleipnir> Now you've made it a challange.
[04:54] <se7en_> somebody know how i can keep a clean desktop? i have 3 external hdd always conected through a usb hub to my box and i don't like or need the desktop icons also i can't tell kubuntu to automaticly mount them
[04:55] <terran4000> Nexano: new I missed something on you're pastebin
[04:55] <Nexano> blacklisted part? :<
[04:55] <terran4000> yeah ><
[04:55] <Nexano> what do i do about it? :p
[04:55] <terran4000> Hmm ... I forget where that file was ...
[04:55] <terran4000> give me a sec
[04:55] <knewuser> Trying to install ndiswrapper from adept, I get the message: There was an error committing changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."
[04:55] <Nexano> knewuser: i got that as well, dont worry about it
[04:55] <Gleipnir> drif
[04:55] <drif> Gleipnir: yes?
[04:56] <Gleipnir> hdparm -d1 /dev/sda
[04:56] <thomas_newbie__> hey guys your're still here ey
[04:56] <Nexano> download the drivers, find the .inf file, sudo ndiswrapper -i drivernametbh.inf
[04:56] <Nexano> sup thomas_newbie__?
[04:56] <thomas_newbie__> yea i'm not sure how to set up this static ip
[04:56] <Nexano> :D
[04:56] <Nexano> good to see im not the only one having problems
[04:56] <Nexano> thomas_newbie__: willing to resort to terminal now?
[04:56] <thomas_newbie__> Nexano: sure wth....ifconfig
[04:56] <drif> Gleipnir: tried that earlier - atleast the get function didn't return anything
[04:56] <terran4000> Nexano: okie okie ...
[04:57] <Nexano> thomas_newbie__: wireless or regular card?
[04:57] <Nexano> go on terran4000 ;o
[04:57] <thomas_newbie__> Nexano: regular
[04:57] <Gleipnir> improper ioctl?
[04:57] <thomas_newbie__> Nexano: btw i have 2 comps
[04:57] <terran4000> Nexano: 'this' might help, but it also might mess stuff up. Hope you know how to get to console and work from there just in case ...
[04:57] <drif> Gleipnir: hm?
[04:57] <Nexano> well get to that later
[04:57] <captainzap> can someone help rescue me?
[04:57] <Nexano> terran4000: aye
[04:57] <terran4000> captainzap: sure, one sec.
[04:57] <Nexano> thomas_newbie__: youll have to wait, im finally getting my compiz running :P
[04:57] <Nexano> ooor not!
[04:57] <Gleipnir>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[04:58] <Gleipnir> ?
[04:58] <terran4000> Nexano: you know how to use vim?
[04:58] <thomas_newbie__> terran4000: EWWWWWWWWWWWwwwwwwwwwww
[04:58] <Nexano> i know how to use it like i knew how to use notepad :>
[04:58] <Gleipnir> what do you need to know terran?
[04:58] <drif> Gleipnir: no, like I said it returned nothing - just empty line followed with /dev/sda:
[04:58] <Nexano> what am i wiming and why cant i use gedit? :P
[04:58] <Gleipnir> Whiskey Tango Foxtrot...?
[04:58] <terran4000> Gleipnir: I was simply asking Nexano is he knows how to ... if not gedit or so
[04:58] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ trying to setup a static ip?
[04:58] <captainzap> I used my computer yesterday...today I turned it on and it ran a file system check...says "Duplicate or Bad Block in use" and then hangs...help?
[04:58] <Gleipnir> lol
[04:58] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: yes sir
[04:59] <Gleipnir> vim == easy.
[04:59] <knewuser> Nexano: Looks like it's a bigger problem. the graphical frontend for ndiswrapper pretends to open, but then nothing happens.
[04:59] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ look at /etc/network/interfaces
[04:59] <terran4000> Nexano: use sudo gedit /usr/bin/compiz
[04:59] <sub[t]rnl> you can define static ip's in there
[04:59] <Nexano> knewuser: dont use the graphical frontend
[04:59] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: ok, GUI --> network settings?????
[04:59] <Nexano> terran4000: that did _NOTHING_ :p
[04:59] <Nexano> sec
[04:59] <sub[t]rnl> if you want to do it by !cli, then just edit the file located at /etc/network/interfaces
[05:00] <terran4000> >< just open up /usr/bin/compiz in something that can write to it (aka with root permissions)
[05:00] <sub[t]rnl> or by gui, yes, you can right click on the knetworkmanager icon in your system tray, go to manual configuration
[05:00] <Nexano> terran4000: vim'ing
[05:00] <Nexano> what do i edit?
[05:00] <sub[t]rnl> select the interface you are wanting static, then set the ip
[05:00] <terran4000> thomas_newbie__: what's wrong with vim?
[05:00] <drif> Gleipnir: and yes, when trying to set dma instead of getting current status I get that ioctl-error
[05:01] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ system settings -> network settings -> same thing
[05:01] <terran4000> Nexano: about line 54, "WHITELIST= ............"
[05:01] <Gleipnir> it IS a bit daunting if you have no idea what you're doing.
[05:01] <Gleipnir> ok
[05:01] <terran4000> make sure "i810" is in there
[05:01] <thomas_newbie__> terran4000: we'll maybe because I can't use it fully but it's so primitive...don't listen to me
[05:01] <Gleipnir> WHEW
[05:01] <Gleipnir> lol
[05:01] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: funny thing in the config file
[05:01] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: it says its STATIC IP! the one i wanted
[05:01] <terran4000> thomas_newbie__: ... vim ... primative .... confused. but ok ^_^
[05:02] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ what config file
[05:02] <Nexano> terran4000: WHITELIST="nvidia intel ati radeon i810"
[05:02] <thomas_newbie__> terran4000: just used to using kate or some GUI text editor thats all :S
[05:02] <Nexano> terran4000: what do i do? P
[05:02] <terran4000> Nexano: woot. that part is good
[05:02] <Gleipnir> feh vim != primative!
[05:02] <terran4000> Ok next is
[05:03] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: the interfaces text file
[05:03] <terran4000> thomas_newbie__: vim is very complex actually. To the point where back in college I programmed and compiled a whole programming language in it.
[05:03] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ do you see -> iface eth0 inet static
[05:03] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: yeaa i know....but its not GUI like
[05:03] <terran4000> Gui == slow.
[05:03] <Nexano> GUI text editing is overrated :<
[05:03] <terran4000> anywho
[05:04] <Nexano> terran4000: knowing its late and easy to forget stuff, should i find some PCI ID and remove it from blacklist?
[05:04] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: yes sir
[05:04] <Gleipnir> gui is fine, IDE is slow.
[05:04] <terran4000> Nexano: on line BLACKLIST_PCIIDS="$T"
[05:04] <Gleipnir> Espcially since java came out.
[05:04] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ if its setup with your address, netmask, and gateway the way you like it, for the settings to take effect, you'll need to sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:04] <Nexano> go on terran4000
[05:04] <terran4000> Nexano: change that line to: BLACKLIST_PCIIDS=""
[05:04] <thomas_newbie__> yeaaa my quad core processor computer cant' handle a GUI text editor
[05:05] <Nexano> terran4000: done
[05:05] <terran4000> restart X and enjoy (hopefully)
[05:05] <drif> thomas_newbie__: what are you using then?
[05:05] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: ty i think that is the solution i am looking for
[05:05] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: let me try
[05:05] <Nexano> thomas_newbie__: the fact that your computer can handle it, makes non-gui editors a waste? :<
[05:05] <captainzap> I used my computer yesterday...today I turned it on and it ran a file system check...says "Duplicate or Bad Block in use" and then is completley unresponsive...help pls?
[05:05] <thomas_newbie__> Nexano: omg i must stop this conversation because I know i will get flamed to death !!
[05:06] <Nexano> thomas_newbie__: no one is flaming ;(
[05:06] <thomas_newbie__> Nexano: lols
[05:06] <Nexano> just asking your opinion so i can trash it :p
[05:06] <thomas_newbie__> awwww
[05:06] <thomas_newbie__> yes
[05:06] <Nexano> anyway, its getting sort of off topic
[05:06] <sub[t]rnl> lets keep the channel for support only, general chatter can go to #kubuntu-offtopic
[05:06] <Nexano> <3
[05:07] <Nexano> whats next terran4000? me moving your boxes? :<
[05:07] <Nexano> ah restart x
[05:07] <Nexano> i failed to see it
[05:07] <thomas_newbie__> I WILL be back i am restart my supercomputer
[05:07] <terran4000> lol
[05:07] <Gleipnir> fsck -cc /dev/hda?
[05:07] <Nexano> brb!
[05:07] <Nexano> hopefully
[05:07] <terran4000> ^^
[05:07] <Nexano> if not, terran4000 lock your doors and hide the kittens
[05:07] <thomas_newbie__> if not ...<3 you all
[05:07] <terran4000> Oh, you can have my cats.
[05:07] <Nexano> allready got 2 >_>
[05:07] <sub[t]rnl> Gleipnir➜ trying to manually fsck your drive?
[05:08] <thomas_newbie__> hold on me 2
[05:08] <thomas_newbie__> i have 2 cats :)
[05:08] <terran4000> heh, go restart X already ;-)
[05:08] <thomas_newbie__> one mother and one son
[05:08] <Gleipnir> load a live cd.
[05:08] <Gleipnir> then fsck your drive.
[05:08] <thomas_newbie__> lols yes sub[t]rnl
[05:08] <captainzap> was the load a live cd fsck your drive for me?
[05:08] <Gleipnir> yep.
[05:09] <captainzap> i'll try it
[05:09] <sub[t]rnl> Gleipnir➜ no need to load a live cd just to fsck a drive.
[05:09] <Gleipnir> sorry, was trying to figure out who asked.
[05:09] <Gleipnir> when it's got the os on it it is.
[05:09] <Nataku199> how soon after 4.0 release will be get a hardy heron release?
[05:09] <sub[t]rnl> theres a -F option in the shutdown command to force a fsck on next boot
[05:09] <Gleipnir> fscking mounted drives == bad.
[05:09] <sub[t]rnl> yes, I know
[05:10] <captainzap> the system tries to boot auto runs a check and then the "duplicate bad block" message
[05:10] <captainzap> the only way to load it is through live cd?
[05:10] <Gleipnir> yeah, on reboot works, but most don't like to do cli if they can avoid it.
[05:10] <Gleipnir> abut I agree.
[05:10] <Nexano> terran4000: wont boot thanks a lot
[05:10] <terran4000> lol
[05:10] <Nexano> j\k :p
[05:10] <knewuser> Bad news with ndiswrapper.
[05:10] <thomas_newbie__> hallelujah Praise the Lord a little bit
[05:11] <knewuser> following the instructions from here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926
[05:11] <terran4000> Nexano: work at all?
[05:11] <Nexano> finding out
[05:11] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: ty master it worked
[05:11] <knewuser> the system freezes when I hit the sudo dhclient wlan0 command.
[05:11] <Nexano> my damn rEFLT is slow :<
[05:11] <Nexano> !uhoh Nexano
[05:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uhoh nexano - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:11] <sub[t]rnl> Gleipnir➜ you can also sudo touch /forcefsck, then reboot normally
[05:11] <sub[t]rnl> and it will fsck your drive on next boot
[05:11] <terran4000> oh, make sure you also install emerald
[05:12] <Gleipnir> huh, that one's new to me
[05:12] <Gleipnir> Thanks!
[05:12] <sub[t]rnl> anytime, (thats essentially what the sudo shutdown -rF now command does anyway)
[05:12] <Nexano> ok new problem i just realised, my mac keyboard doesnt have a delete button..
[05:12] <Nataku199> lol
[05:13] <terran4000> Nexano: Sorry, but I think only a bottle of vodka can solve that one.
[05:13] <Gleipnir> That makes sense, I like to do it via a livecd just so everything is "under my control"
[05:13] <Nexano> aight so desktop effects work
[05:13] <Nexano> but Konversation wont start terran4000 :p
[05:13] <Gleipnir> lol
[05:13] <terran4000> You're here aint ya.
[05:14] <Nexano> desktop :)
[05:14] <Nexano> NexaMac is missing :<
[05:14] <terran4000> ah, tochue (sp?)
[05:14] <Nexano> sp?
[05:14] <terran4000> spelling
[05:14] <Nexano> ah
[05:14] <knewuser> touche, but you need a diacritic on the e.
[05:14] <Nexano> i believe its touché
[05:14] <terran4000> knewuser: thanks. :-)
[05:15] <terran4000> Damn you people who know how to use your keyboards!
[05:15] <terran4000> Anywho
[05:15] <terran4000> Konv won't start now that eye candy works?
[05:15] <Nexano> yep
[05:15] <terran4000> That makes no sense
[05:15] <Nexano> why do i get a feeling theres always something not working properly? :p
[05:15] <terran4000> Speaking of which
[05:16] <terran4000> You might want to find and get: fusion-icon
[05:16] <Nexano> which is..?
[05:16] <terran4000> Really helps with switching between compiz and not-compiz without restarting X or killing anything. And it helps with some settings.
[05:16] <sub[t]rnl> an icon that runs emerald --replace, kwin --replace or compiz --replace
[05:17] <terran4000> And it sits in your taskbar for easy access.
[05:17] <sub[t]rnl> and in your ram
[05:17] <sub[t]rnl> like a lazy bum
[05:17] <terran4000> :-)
[05:17] <knewuser> Okay. Ndiswrapper is installed and loads at boot. going to knetworkmanager and telling it to connect...
[05:18] <Nexano> well ill be damned
[05:18] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: do you think you can help me with a major problem i have been trying all night
[05:18] <Nexano> reinstalling konversation didnt solve it either
[05:18] <knewuser> And it freezes.
[05:18] <Nexano> gimme another decent irc client
[05:18] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: it all started by configuring my apache2 server
[05:18] <Gleipnir> bitchx
[05:18] <Nexano> knewuser: how exactly did you isntall the drivers using ndiswrapper?
[05:18] <Nexano> step by step
[05:18] <se7en_> somebody know how i can keep a clean desktop? i have 3 external hdd always conected through a usb hub to my box and i don't like or need the desktop icons also i can't tell kubuntu to automaticly mount them
[05:19] <knewuser> I had the windows drivers in a file folder on a shared drive. I moved it to my home folder.
[05:19] <thomas_newbie__> whenever I connect to my apache server, it gives me that you don't have permission to access / on this server
[05:19] <knewuser> Then I followed these directions, step by step.
[05:19] <knewuser> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926
[05:19] <Gleipnir> thomas, your permissions are borked.
[05:19] <knewuser> It froze at sudo dhclient wlan0.
[05:20] <Gleipnir> or you have nothing on /
[05:20] <terran4000> se7en_: there is a way to dissable certain icons, give me a sec to look that up for ya
[05:20] <knewuser> Then, on restart, froze when I tried connnecting.
[05:20] <knewuser> Connecting.
[05:21] <Nexano> knewuser: wpa encryption?
[05:21] <knewuser> WEP.
[05:21] <terran4000> se7en_: If you open up Kmenu -> System Settings -> Desktop -> Behavior
[05:21] <Nexano> can you try disabling the encryption and giving it another go?
[05:21] <Nexano> lol nevermind
[05:21] <Nexano> im solving another problem here
[05:21] <Nexano> freezing, i cant help you on :/
[05:21] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ not sure I see a problem yet
[05:21] <terran4000> se7en_: there is a tab there called "Device Icons", you can uncheck what you wish.
[05:22] <knewuser> Okay. Can anyone? It seems to be a common problem on the forums, but there's not much in the way of how to fix it.
[05:22] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: i cannot get an index page to load wehen connecting to my domain
[05:23] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ Put an index.html file inside of your /var/www folder and remove the apache2-default dir
[05:23] <Gleipnir> do you have an index.html in / ?
[05:24] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: it has worked until the point where I took the default folder of /var/www and changed it to /home/myusername/public_html and put a page in there. When I connect to my domain.com/index.html it works only then
[05:24] <Gleipnir> do you have your httpd.conf setup correctly?
[05:25] <sub[t]rnl> httpd.conf is just the servername right
[05:25] <Nexano> terran4000: what was the cmd for enabling\disbaling compiz again? :p
[05:25] <terran4000> knewuser: ok, this might not work and is probably just out of the air ... try disabling wireless encryption on the router and see if you can connect.
[05:25] <Gleipnir> no, it sets webroot as well.
[05:25] <terran4000> Nexano: compiz --replace
[05:25] <terran4000> and to undo that
[05:25] <terran4000> ctrl-c   .. if you did that in a terminal
[05:26] <Nexano> didnt
[05:26] <Nexano> :<
[05:26] <terran4000> meh
[05:26] <terran4000> then > killall compiz
[05:26] <terran4000> should work
[05:26] <terran4000> ^^
[05:26] <terran4000> wait no
[05:26] <terran4000> bad idea
[05:26] <terran4000> >_>
[05:26] <Nexano> x)
[05:26] <terran4000> eh ... don't remember how to 'disable' it.
[05:27] <terran4000> I've just used fusion-icon or beryl before ... so they all had a on/off button
[05:27] <terran4000> ^^
[05:27] <thomas_newbie__> Gleipnir: httpd.conf in the kubuntu version is empty
[05:27] <sub[t]rnl> !apache | thomas_newbie__
[05:27] <ubotu> thomas_newbie__: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:27] <sub[t]rnl> answer is in that link
[05:28] <thomas_newbie__> if you say so
[05:28] <bazhang> http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-lamp-server-installation-with-screenshots.html thomas_newbie__
[05:29] <nexamac_> so
[05:29] <nexamac_> the next time someone asks why konversation wont start, tell them to relogg >_>
[05:29] <terran4000> lol
[05:29] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ you need to set the DocumentRoot in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default (or whatever you called it)
[05:29] <nexamac_> amazing
[05:30] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: i already have
[05:30] <nexamac_> !ot
[05:30] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:30] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: this link you gave me is good
[05:30] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ I have apache2 running and thats how I set the DocumentRoot, works fine for me.  Follow those steps
[05:30] <thomas_newbie__> k i'll read on ty
[05:31] <nexamac_> terran4000: next, and hopefully last problem, why doesnt my cube have 4 sides? :<
[05:31] <terran4000> Ah,
[05:31] <terran4000> How many does it have?
[05:32] <nexamac_> 2
[05:32] <terran4000> cool ..
[05:32] <terran4000> simple fix
[05:32] <sub[t]rnl> nexamac_➜ go into compiz config settings manager -> general -> desktop size
[05:32] <terran4000> yeah, what he said
[05:32] <nexamac_> nr. of desktops=4
[05:32] <terran4000> Though
[05:32] <sub[t]rnl> find horizontal virtual size, and up it
[05:32] <terran4000> Number of Desktops = 1
[05:33] <terran4000> Horizontal Virtual size should be 4 (or whatever)
[05:33] <nexamac_> aaah
[05:33] <nexamac_> cheers
[05:33] <nexamac_> now
[05:33] <nexamac_> how do i open my bedroom door?
[05:33]  * terran4000 lifts his tea mug in celebration
[05:33] <sub[t]rnl> lol
[05:34] <terran4000> sudo vim door_bedroom
[05:34] <nexamac_> haha
[05:34] <sub[t]rnl> change open=0 to open=1
[05:34] <sub[t]rnl> save and exit
[05:34] <Nexalol> ;)
[05:34] <Nexalol> o_O
[05:34] <terran4000> and don't foget chmod u+x
[05:35] <Nexalol> changing screen saver blanked my screen
[05:35] <Nexalol> cant be good
[05:35] <terran4000> compiz aint perfect.
[05:38] <nexamac_> well
[05:38] <nexamac_> compiz is working
[05:38] <nexamac_> video card and wireless is working
[05:38] <nexamac_> audio time
[05:38] <terran4000> woot
[05:38] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: can you go to the site you gave me and go down to the part where it says "a2dissite" I don't understand what default is
[05:39] <Thingus> Can I batch resize a bunch of JPEGs with imagemagick?
[05:40] <knewuser> Should I be concerned that I can't install anything through adept?
[05:40] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ default is the default site in /etc/apache2/sites-available.  a2dissite disables it
[05:41] <knewuser> I keep gettng the same message, "There was an error committing changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."
[05:41] <nexamac_> knewuser: its perfectly normal
[05:41] <nexamac_> ;o
[05:41] <nexamac_> knewuser: try sudo apt-get instead
[05:41] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: yea ok so do I have to specify the entire pathname? and also what is the mysite file?
[05:41] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: because basically what i'm doing is taking default file and editing it....
[05:41] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ the mysite file is an edited copy of the default... right..
[05:41] <thomas_newbie__> look up...
[05:41] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ not sure why the wiki takes you through all that,  not needed.  I didn't
[05:41] <thomas_newbie__> yes
[05:42] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ just edit DocumentRoot dir in default, or whatever site you have enabled
[05:42] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: yes that was done a long time ago :(
[05:42] <knewuser> Just sudo apt-get <name of package>?
[05:43] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ did you restart apache? so it takes hold?
[05:43] <nexamac_> knewuser: yes
[05:43] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: yea............
[05:43] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: it works when i do domain.com/index.html but gives me permissions error when i got domain.com
[05:44] <knewuser> I get the message, "Invalid operation"
[05:45] <nexamac_> grr
[05:46] <terran4000> nexamac_: what's wrong this time?
[05:48] <nexamac_> terran4000: sound :P
[05:48] <terran4000> I'm guessing you mean there-lack-of sound?
[05:48] <NexaMac> kinda amusing how i can help people solve this and that, but cant help myself solve the most basic crap :<
[05:48] <NexaMac> yarr, browsing ubuntuforums atm
[05:52] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: wanna see my config file
[05:55] <mahasamoot> I've got a directory full of photos, which are marked +x, I want to put "chmod -R -x /home/media/photos" but the problem is the directories need the x, and when I read the man page I didn't see a way to treat directories diffrently
[05:55] <mahasamoot> any ideas?
[05:56] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: you there?
[05:56] <knewuser> Oh well. I'm going to give this another try at the next major release.
[05:57] <NexaMac> holy crap
[05:58] <NexaMac> lightning struck just outside
[05:58] <se7en> compiz used to work no problem but now i get   /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Another window manager is already running on screen: 0
[05:58] <se7en> ??
[05:58] <terran4000> SWEET!
[05:58] <terran4000> hit anything fun?
[05:58] <NexaMac> thats me turning off the desktop and unplugging the laptop
[05:58] <NexaMac> no way am i getting close to the window :P
[05:58] <terran4000> se7en: what command are you running to start compiz?
[05:58] <NexaMac> dont mess with nature!
[05:59] <se7en> compiz --replace like always terran4000
[05:59] <terran4000> hmm
[05:59] <terran4000> maybe it's already running?
[06:01] <lascar> i used gparted to create an ntfs partition to install xp on.  XP has since been installed, but i can't find GRUB and thus boot into linux.  Is it lost?  How can I reclaim it?
[06:02] <terran4000> lascar: best bet, boot from a live cd
[06:03] <lascar> terran4000: doing that right now.  Then what?
[06:03] <terran4000> bleh
[06:03] <farchord> Hey guys, I have a bit of a problem, and hope you guys can help. I have a monitor problem, the power supply on it is failing (I just dont wanna return it just yet). My point is, is there a way to change the X server's refresh rate from console in recovery mode? I went in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but my screen's section only has 'DPMS'...
[06:03] <lascar> ?
[06:03] <terran4000> someone help me out here >_> what was that grub command? grub-install /dev/hda ?
[06:03] <terran4000> ah yes
[06:04] <se7en> i did system settings > desktop > dehavior > menu bar on top of the screen ... after that i lost emerald and cant start compiz anymore terran4000
[06:04] <terran4000> lascar: grub-install /dev/WHATEVER
[06:04] <se7en> *behavior
[06:04] <farchord> lascar: Do fdisk -l to list your partitions
[06:04] <lascar> yes...
[06:05] <lascar> and grub-install <linux partition>?
[06:05] <terran4000> se7en: ok ... quicky question, what do you see now? Just the standard KDE look?
[06:06] <se7en> yes plain kde no compiz
[06:06] <farchord> so no one knows how to change the refresh rate eh?
[06:06] <terran4000> se7en: open up a console window, then type compiz --replace into it and tell me/us the output
[06:08] <Lazarus> !lsr
[06:08] <farchord> mmmm guess ima have to get myself another screen, THEN play with linux..... meh at least Winblows uses the right resolution and refresh rate...
[06:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lsr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:08] <Lazarus> !info lsr
[06:08] <ubotu> lsr: The Linux Screen Reader for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.3-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 501 kB, installed size 2776 kB
[06:08] <Lazarus> !screader
[06:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screader - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:08] <Lazarus> !info screader
[06:08] <ubotu> screader: Screen reader using software or hardware speech synthesizer. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.8-5 (gutsy), package size 143 kB, installed size 372 kB
[06:09] <se7en> !pb
[06:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:09] <Lazarus> would anyone here happen to know what software i can use in linux that works with screader?
[06:09]  * farchord hands Ubotu a scolding hot coffee with two sugars. "That's how you like it, right?"
[06:10] <terran4000> se7en: a pastebin link would help :-)
[06:11] <sub[t]rnl> farchord➜ you can specify a monitors refresh rate in /etc/X11/xorg.conf  example in Section "Monitor" I have HorizSync 30-70 and VertRefresh 50-160
[06:11] <se7en> sorry but as soon as i do compiz --replace i cant close or move windows anymore terran4000
[06:11] <sub[t]rnl> se7en➜ sounds like you need the window decorator.  sudo apt-get install emerald
[06:12] <se7en> sub[t]rnl: i have emerald ... and it worked till 10 min ago
[06:12] <farchord> sub[t]rnl: if I want a very specific refresh rate, can I just use a single number?
[06:12] <se7en> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51306/
[06:12] <sigma> but compiz works with kwin as well
[06:12] <sub[t]rnl> se7en➜ emerald --replace
[06:12] <sub[t]rnl> farchord➜ yes
[06:12] <farchord> Coolio thanks
[06:12] <sigma> not 100% but still works none the less
[06:12] <sub[t]rnl> sigma➜ compiz replaces kwin.
[06:13] <lascar> i'm getting an error message: "could not find device for /boot: not found or not a block device."
[06:13] <sigma> ok good point, but when i installed it i didnt use emerald, so what window decorator was it using?
[06:14] <lascar> anyone?
[06:14] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: do you know why it gives permission denied to / when trying to open mysite.com????
[06:14] <se7en> i ll restart x
[06:14] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ yeah set the documentroot bro, should work.  Try #apache I could be missing something
[06:15] <lascar> terran4000:  i'm getting an error message: "could not find device for /boot: not found or not a block device."
[06:15] <terran4000> o.O
[06:16] <terran4000> That's never fun.
[06:16] <se7en> terran4000: any idea
[06:16] <terran4000> All this talk of compiz made me break my own install on my laptop >_>.
[06:16] <sub[t]rnl> se7en➜ start compiz via compiz --replace
[06:16] <terran4000> Needs for clean install anyway ... anywho: first off ...
[06:17] <terran4000> lascar:
[06:17] <terran4000> lascar: that happens when you try to boot correct?
[06:17] <lascar> terran4000: no, when i tried grub-install
[06:18] <se7en> sub[t]rnl: if i do compiz --replace i get the error i just pastbined
[06:18] <terran4000> se7en: let me guess, you also lost all window decorations?
[06:18] <terran4000> lascar: ah ok ...
[06:18] <terran4000> hmm
[06:18] <terran4000> lascar: there was some command I forgot to add
[06:18] <terran4000> um ..
[06:18] <terran4000> >_>
[06:18] <terran4000> er
[06:19] <chris0626891> Hello, is anyone here?
[06:19] <terran4000> I think it was > grub-install --root=/dev/WHERE-root-dir-is-mounted
[06:19] <chris0626891> Oh sweet people are here!
[06:19] <chris0626891> I have a quick question.
[06:19] <terran4000> No one here but us umbas
[06:19] <Lazarus> !kmouth
[06:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmouth - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:19] <terran4000> And I have a quick answer: feed me
[06:19]  * lascar remembers reading about that
[06:19] <Lazarus> !info kmouth
[06:19] <ubotu> kmouth: a type-and-say KDE frontend for speech synthesizers. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 728 kB, installed size 1664 kB
[06:19] <chris0626891> If I do apt-get dist-upgrade now, will I get KDE 4?  (Even if there a little old?)  And I'll be able to upgrade to the full released KDE4.0 when it's released, correct?)
[06:20] <Daisuke_Ido> question.  what's the easiest way to migrate my OS to another drive?
[06:20] <terran4000> chris0626891: no, kde4 is still a seperate install ... at least last time I checked.
[06:20] <Daisuke_Ido> the one it's on is getting ready to keel over dead.
[06:20] <chris0626891> Hmm..
[06:20] <Daisuke_Ido> and i would prefer that not happen.
[06:20] <chris0626891> So theres no easy way to upgrade to 4.0...
[06:20] <lascar> terran4000: do you mean the partition where the directory is located?
[06:20] <chris0626891> Ungh, there doesn't happen to be a repo for KDE4 is there? :P
[06:21] <terran4000> The instructions are on the kubuntu website
[06:21] <chris0626891> Well right..
[06:21] <chris0626891> But If I do that
[06:21] <chris0626891> I would be stuck with an old KDE4
[06:21] <chris0626891> I wouldn't have KDE4.0 when they release it..
[06:21] <terran4000> lascar: more or less yes
[06:21] <chris0626891> or would it be easy to upgrade to 4.0?
[06:22] <Daisuke_Ido> chris0626891: you're better off waiting for the 4.0 release.
[06:22] <chris0626891> *cries*  I want KDE4 so badly!! =P
[06:22] <sub[t]rnl> or maybe even wait till the 4.1 release
[06:22] <sub[t]rnl> :p
[06:22] <terran4000> chris0626891: I tried it and didn't like it much. I'm sticking with a good ol simple UI. 4 is just a bit too out there for me right now
[06:22] <chris0626891> Do you know how long it will take for KDE4.0 to hit the repos here?
[06:22] <Daisuke_Ido> while i don't want to start a potentially ugly flame war...  you're not missing much.
[06:23] <terran4000> KDE4 IS in the repos
[06:23] <terran4000> You just have to set it up
[06:23] <chris0626891> Oh..
[06:23] <chris0626891> So I would be able to sudo-apt get update it later?
[06:23] <terran4000> one sec
[06:23] <chris0626891> sorry I misunderstood you earlier..
[06:23] <Daisuke_Ido> kde 4.0 is NOT in the repos, it isn't released yet, however, chris0626891, you can install and then upgrade to 4.0 with an upgrade...  in theory at least
[06:23] <chris0626891> Right..
[06:23] <chris0626891> Hmm..
[06:23] <sub[t]rnl> its in the deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu gutsy main repo's
[06:23] <Daisuke_Ido> unfortunately this isn't theory, this is linux :)
[06:24] <chris0626891> true =P
[06:24] <chris0626891> But i wouldn't mind being a guinny pig.
[06:24] <terran4000> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[06:24] <lazarus> could anyone point me in the right direction for a text to speech program?
[06:25] <sub[t]rnl> !info festival
[06:25] <chris0626891> Did they have the actual GUI all set in place for the RC2 release?
[06:25] <ubotu> festival: general multi-lingual speech synthesis system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.3-21ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 680 kB, installed size 2048 kB
[06:25] <chris0626891> Or have they upgraded the packages since then?
[06:25] <terran4000> http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+text+to+speech
[06:25] <chris0626891> and also.. would I be upgrading to Hardy, or can I stay in Gutsy..
[06:25] <chris0626891> (I'm sorry I'm asking so many questions! =P )
[06:26] <terran4000> chris0626891: is all more or less works.
[06:26] <terran4000> You just have to download it, set it up and launch it
[06:26] <terran4000> *it all
[06:26] <terran4000> Pardon my grammar and spelling. The sleeping pills are starting to take effect.
[06:26] <sub[t]rnl> floattttt
[06:27] <sub[t]rnl> :D
[06:27] <terran4000> float? old school ... binary is the only way to go man
[06:27]  * lascar is at an impasse
[06:27] <chris0626891> what do you mean "launch" it, simply go back to the kdm and select KDE4?
[06:27] <chris0626891> well I'll dive in and see if I can't figure it out..
[06:27] <chris0626891> Thanks for your help guys.
[06:27] <chris0626891> One quick question though.  Should I upgrade to Hardy before install KDE4-rc2?
[06:28] <sigma> it wont make a difference
[06:28] <terran4000> 1st question, probably yes, 2nd question: wouldn't make a difference
[06:29] <sigma> who owns the arial font?
[06:29] <sub[t]rnl> Acrobat?
[06:29] <terran4000> no clue, but probably adobe
[06:29] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, adobe!
[06:29] <sub[t]rnl> thats what I meant
[06:30] <sub[t]rnl> The typeface was designed in 1982 by Robin Nicholas and Patricia Saunders for Monotype Typography.
[06:30] <sub[t]rnl> off wiki
[06:30] <sigma> i thought microsoft owned it
[06:30] <chris0626891> They probably do =P
[06:30] <sigma> well is using that mscorefonts package in the repo's legal?
[06:31] <sub[t]rnl> font designers are creepy
[06:31] <sub[t]rnl> theres a whole cult of em
[06:31] <sigma> lol
[06:32] <Daisuke_Ido> sooo...  easy(ish) way to migrate the OS to another drive?
[06:32] <sigma> some one ought to design some decent fonts for the linux interface. its always the first thing i change after an install
[06:32] <sigma> i dont think you can do that and if you could it prob wouldnt be recommended
[06:33] <sigma> just backup and reinstall
[06:33] <sub[t]rnl> Daisuke_Ido➜ dd?
[06:33] <Daisuke_Ido> i'va already backed up, i would really prefer not reinstalling though
[06:33] <Daisuke_Ido> sub[t]rnl: considered it.
[06:33] <Daisuke_Ido> wouldn't the two have to not be mounted in order for that to work?
[06:33] <sub[t]rnl> yewp
[06:34] <sub[t]rnl> hrm
[06:34] <sigma> usually when you don't reinstall something conflicts and you have a neverending pack of problems to deal with
[06:34] <Daisuke_Ido> so livecd.
[06:34] <Daisuke_Ido> sigma: this isn't windows.
[06:34] <sub[t]rnl> Daisuke_Ido➜ yeah, might be the best bet
[06:34] <sigma> good point
[06:35] <sub[t]rnl> !info mondo
[06:35] <ubotu> mondo: powerful disaster recovery suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.22-1 (gutsy), package size 404 kB, installed size 1144 kB
[06:35] <sub[t]rnl> !info mindi > sub[t]rnl
[06:35] <Daisuke_Ido> however, i'm also considering doing a clean gutsy install, i've been upgrading since edgy.
[06:36] <sigma> im always amazed at how later releases of linux get faster whilst the opposite is true for windows
[06:37] <terran4000> sigma: lol ... not always true. But true enough :-)
[06:37] <sub[t]rnl> wow, terran4000 confuses me
[06:37] <sub[t]rnl> :>
[06:37] <terran4000> I have that effect on people.
[06:38] <sigma> well ok i only really noticed it between xp and vista, that was just disgraceful
[06:38] <terran4000> It also managed to get me 3 raises at my last job ^_^
[06:38] <sub[t]rnl> :D
[06:38] <sub[t]rnl> windows blew it with vista
[06:38] <sub[t]rnl> big time
[06:38] <Daisuke_Ido> Windows ME2
[06:38] <sub[t]rnl> Daisuke_Ido➜ lol
[06:38] <ubuntu> hello
[06:38] <sub[t]rnl> !hi | ubuntu
[06:38] <ubotu> ubuntu: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:38] <Daisuke_Ido> it's a depressing thought, but that's about where they went with the release...
[06:39] <sigma> u got that right, its like they were trying to get everyone to buy a new computer
[06:41] <rc-1> Hi!  I just got a HDTV, and am trying to set my resolution to 1080p.  I think I configured my xorg.conf correctly but its not working, and defaulting to the resolution I used for my other monitor.  Please help, my xorg.conf is at http://pastebin.ca/847668.
[06:42] <chris0626891> Hmm ok
[06:42] <chris0626891> Everything APPERS to work fine.
[06:43] <rc-1> to me?//
[06:43] <chris0626891> With KDE4 RC2
[06:43] <chris0626891> I believe they even updated the repos
[06:43] <chris0626891> since I don't believe they had the new login theme at KDE4RC2
[06:43] <rc-1> also its at 51 hz
[06:43] <rc-1> not sixty like i want
[06:44] <chris0626891> Hmm none of these Widgets seem really... useful =P
[06:44] <sub[t]rnl> rc-1➜ lets see your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:45] <chris0626891> KDE4 seems a lot more stable than I thought it was going to be. :P
[06:46] <chris0626891> Though.. for some odd reason, it seems like... It's features in customization are lacking a tiny bit =(
[06:46] <chris0626891> This will probably be fixeed in 4.1 though
[06:46] <chris0626891> *thinks to himself* Wonder how this will drain my battery.
[06:46] <Myrth[home]> hi, do i need to install any additional package to make kde4 usable? right now it's just a bar on the bottom that doesn't respond to any click and 3 entry right click context menu on backgorund..
[06:46] <Daisuke_Ido> kde 3.0 wasn't a shining example of excellence
[06:46] <chris0626891> Myrth.
[06:46] <Daisuke_Ido> by this point, though, the 3.5 line is pretty nice
[06:46] <chris0626891> I just installed KDE4..
[06:47] <chris0626891> With the webpage..
[06:47] <chris0626891> Want me to give you the link?
[06:47] <chris0626891> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[06:47] <chris0626891> I used those easy instructions
[06:47] <chris0626891> No "compiling" required
[06:47] <Myrth[home]> chris0626891: i followed this too
[06:47] <Daisuke_Ido> shame they're dropping 3.5 completely in favour of 4
[06:47] <Myrth[home]> chris0626891: what functionality you have in there
[06:47] <rc-1> sub[t]rnl: hmm it says its at the right res now, but the sides and top/bot of the screen are cut off
[06:48] <rc-1> still want the log
[06:48] <Myrth[home]> Daisuke_Ido: i've read that they're going to continue 3.5
[06:48] <chris0626891> Everything.
[06:48] <chris0626891> Yeah
[06:48] <chris0626891> I just noticed that too
[06:48] <chris0626891> It's cut off..
[06:48] <sub[t]rnl> rc-1➜ no it wont complain if its getting set now
[06:48] <chris0626891> Let me try changing my screen resolution
[06:48] <chris0626891> Ah
[06:49] <rc-1> ah thanks, what should i try then
[06:49] <chris0626891> Theres a "Screen Resize / Rotate" button...
[06:49] <ubuntu> can anyone help rescue me?
[06:49] <chris0626891> But.. it doesn't do anything when I cliced it =P
[06:49] <rc-1> chris0626891: on the tv or in kde control somewhere
[06:49] <sub[t]rnl> rc-1➜ well, my friend hard coded panels into the top and bottom to act as "buffers" and his works great.
[06:49] <Myrth[home]> is konqueror going to use webkit now?
[06:49] <sub[t]rnl> rc-1➜ not elegent, hacky, but it worked
[06:50] <rc-1> hurray i fixed it!
[06:50] <ubuntu> forgive the complete neophyte question but how do I run fsck on my hard drive from a live cd?
[06:50] <sub[t]rnl> rc-1➜ do tell
[06:50] <chris0626891> How rc-1?
[06:50] <rc-1> had to change my TV setting from PC to 1080p
[06:50] <chris0626891> The screen thing?
[06:50] <chris0626891> o_0
[06:50] <rc-1> thought the PC setting would work :)
[06:50] <Q-collective> Myrth[home]: Qt4.4 is going to ship with it, so I don't think there will be any escaping it
[06:50] <chris0626891> Does that fix the cut off?
[06:50] <rc-1> thanks for help
[06:50] <chris0626891> Rc-1 does this fix the "cut off" taskbar?
[06:50] <rc-1> yup
[06:50] <chris0626891> How do I do that?
[06:51] <chris0626891> What menu option did you go to?
[06:51] <rc-1> 1. set your res to whats in my xorg.conf, 2. restart X, 3. set your TV to 1080p instead of PC
[06:51] <KevinAlaska> Would anyone know of a command line command that can fix apt-get and Adept install issues.  not sure what the issue is but I remember there was a command once upon a time I did use?
[06:51] <rc-1> i hit "format" on the remote
[06:51] <sub[t]rnl> !apt-fix
[06:51] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[06:51] <rc-1> you may have to go to menu or something
[06:52] <chris0626891> .... =(
[06:52] <chris0626891> I don't have any remote =P
[06:52] <ubuntu> forgive the complete neophyte question but how do I run fsck on my hard drive from a live cd?
[06:52] <terran4000> geh, so broke in WoW ..
[06:52] <rc-1> see if you can do it with the TV buttons
[06:52] <rc-1> look for menu
[06:52] <terran4000> ubuntu fsck /dev/hda
[06:52] <rc-1> aww man this looks so great now off to watch some ripped HDDVDS with my girl :)
[06:53] <Myrth[home]> Q-collective: i'm sorry for lagging, but is webkit opensource?
[06:53] <rc-1> chris0626891: if you need help still in a bit im everynothing@gmail.com
[06:54] <ubuntu> it is saying "
[06:54] <ubuntu> fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[06:54] <ubuntu> e2fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[06:54] <ubuntu> Couldn't find ext2 superblock, trying backup blocks...
[06:54] <ubuntu> fsck.ext2: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hda
[06:54] <ubuntu> The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
[06:54] <ubuntu> filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2
[06:54] <ubuntu> filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock
[06:54] <ubuntu> is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
[06:54] <ubuntu>     e2fsck -b 8193 <device>
[06:54] <ubuntu> sorry
[06:54] <Myrth[home]> oh i see, i had deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu gutsy main
[06:55] <juan> sorry, which is the spanish channel
[06:55] <Myrth[home]> do i need to remove my packages or upgrade would be fine after changing the source to new one?
[06:55] <chris0626891> I don't see any menu that allows me to do this rc-1 =(
[06:55] <chris0626891> Is there an xorg configuration I could change?
[06:55] <nexamac> aight, googling gets me nowhere :<
[06:55] <nexamac> Intel Corporation 82801H <---- no sound.
[06:55] <Myrth[home]> sorry it was deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tsimpson/ubuntu gutsy main
[06:55] <terran4000> !sp
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <terran4000> geh ..
[06:56] <terran4000> !spanish
[06:56] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[06:56] <juan> gracias
[06:56] <nexamac> terran4000: you busy? ;o
[06:56] <terran4000> de nada
[06:56] <ubuntu> I will be forever endebted to anyone that can help me sort this out. I have a paper on my computer due tomorrow that I really would like to reclaim
[06:56] <Q-collective> Myrth[home]: yes, it is opensource
[06:56] <terran4000> nexamac: only trying to make some gold in wow (and failing at it). What's up?
[06:56] <nexamac> ill grind you the gold if you fix my sound
[06:56] <Myrth[home]> Q-collective: did it become recently? if not why khtml didn't benefit from it until now?
[06:57] <lazarus> how do you use something like festival?
[06:57] <terran4000> heh
[06:57] <lazarus> a text to speech program
[06:57] <terran4000> nexamac: ok, you know the usual questions ...
[06:57] <nexamac> Intel Corporation 82801H
[06:57] <nexamac> testing the speakers gives me no sound
[06:57] <nexamac> mixers are set according to the guides
[06:57] <ubuntu> what is a "bad magin number in super-block"?
[06:57] <hammer_> how do i explain linux that my sda7 root pertition is bigger, than 20GB?
[06:58] <hammer_> i've resized it
[06:58] <terran4000> nexamac: first question, if you (in command line) type: alsamixer
[06:58] <terran4000> What does it say for "Card: "?
[06:58] <nexamac> always got terminal up
[06:58] <nexamac> alsamixer done
[06:59] <nexamac> HDA Intel
[06:59] <terran4000> good enough
[06:59] <terran4000> What's the Master level at?
[06:59] <nexamac> that would be PCM?
[06:59] <terran4000> PCM != Master
[06:59] <terran4000> Two different controls
[07:00] <Nexano> fakk
[07:00] <Nexano> wrong button :<
[07:00] <terran4000> lol
[07:00] <Q-collective> Myrth[home]: the two have a little history, you should read up on dot.kde.org for more about that. But in a nushell: Apple forked khtml a few years ago into webkit, Apple remained it opensource but was a lousy maintainer and projectleader, recently Apple recommitted itself to the opensource development, kde devs didn't trust them at first glans and there was a lot of discussion going on whether keeping khtml or switching to
[07:00] <Q-collective> webkit, now trolltech seems to have made the choice for them with the inclusion of webkit in Qt 4.4, so keeping khtml seperate is rather silly now and effords are made to merge the two codebases into one.
[07:00] <terran4000> Nexano: ok ... so what are the readings for Master and PCM?
[07:01] <nexamac> PCM says 100<>100
[07:01] <nexamac> cant find PCM! tho
[07:01] <Myrth[home]> Q-collective: thanks :)
 count? :<
[07:01] <terran4000> o.O
[07:01] <Jucato> Q-collective: almost completely correct :)
[07:01] <terran4000> Not unless headphones/headphone-jack is where you plugged in the speakers
[07:01] <nexamac> macbook
[07:01] <nexamac> built in speakers ;)
[07:02] <terran4000> oh yeah ...
[07:02] <terran4000> well
[07:02] <Q-collective> Jucato: woot :p
[07:02] <nexamac> also says 100
[07:02] <terran4000> ok, so you're using internal ones
[07:02] <nexamac> yesh
[07:02] <terran4000> well like I said before, check Master
[07:02] <nexamac> their all set to 100 :<
[07:02] <Q-collective> Jucato: which part did I got wrong? :>
[07:02] <terran4000> kk
[07:02] <chris0626891> For some reason I don't have a home directory now =P
[07:03] <Jucato> Q-collective: except for the parts about "trolltech... made the decision for them" and the "keeping khtml separate is rather silly now" :)
[07:03] <chris0626891> But.. I remember there being a fix posted.. SOMEWHERE..
[07:03] <nexamac> chris0626891: good job :p
[07:03] <chris0626891> I just can't remember where...
[07:03] <Q-collective> Jucato: why is that wrong?
[07:03] <Q-collective> :(
[07:03] <chris0626891> Where do they store all of the KDE4 bugs / fixes?
[07:03] <terran4000> ok, new idea nexamac
[07:03] <terran4000> open up kmix
[07:03] <nexamac> shoot terran4000
[07:03] <KevinAlaska> Hello ... sorry having odd connection to irc problems.... Any other commands someone might have to help me fix Adept and/or apt-get program?  the error reads "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages"  Any ideas?
[07:04] <terran4000> And then open the mixer window
[07:04] <Jucato> Q-collective: trolltech hasn't made the decision for KDE... in fact, it has only made the decision making even more complicated. and keeping khtml isn't silly, because khtml is used in a lot more places than just Konqueror... so to be able really replace it, QWebKit still needs a lot of work (for the KDE side of things)
[07:04] <nexamac> terran4000: and then? ;o
[07:05] <Jucato> (speaking of khtml as a kpart used in many places)
[07:05] <jussi01> KevinAlaska: sudo apt-get install -f
[07:05] <Myrth[home]> QWebKit? a fork of Webkit?
[07:05] <terran4000> just for fun, crank up every single slider to the top
[07:05] <Q-collective> Jucato: I see
[07:05] <terran4000> and any green led thingy should be lit
[07:05] <KevinAlaska> thank you jussi01... I think that is the command I used once upon a time.. .cheers. :)
[07:05] <terran4000> All of this under the Output tab of course
[07:05] <nexamac> terran4000: done
[07:05] <nexamac> tho PCM doesnt have a green LED
[07:06] <terran4000> I know
[07:06] <Jucato> Myrth[home]: a Port of WebKit to Qt
[07:06] <terran4000> ok, test some sound
[07:06] <Jucato> sorry, it's QtWebKit...
[07:06] <terran4000> like with amarok or xmms
[07:06] <nexamac> will do
[07:06] <jussi01> KevinAlaska: :)
[07:06] <Myrth[home]> got it
[07:07] <nexamac> terran4000: its playing, but theres no sound :/
[07:07] <terran4000> k
[07:07] <terran4000> stick it on repeat so it keeps playing
[07:07] <truent> how are the main ubuntu repositories for kde4 'testing' packages?
[07:07] <Myrth[home]> hey, i switched from http://ppa.launchpad.net/tsimpson/ubuntu to http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu, do i need to remove kde4 and install new or upgrade is ok?
[07:07] <truent> or anyone recommend a repo for kde4?
[07:08] <nexamac> terran4000: don
[07:08] <nexamac> e
[07:08] <truent> im a gnome guy but willing to try
[07:08] <stdin> Myrth[home]: see the link to the guide in the topic
[07:08] <terran4000> nexamac: let me boot my laptop ...
[07:08] <nexamac> <3
[07:08] <emmatiia> Hays, has anyone else noticed problems with installing PHP5?
[07:08] <terran4000> my desktop is a bit tooo different >_>
[07:09] <nexamac> ;o
[07:09] <stdin> truent: if you haven't installed it yet, you may want to wait a couple of days, 4.0.0 is out on the 11th
[07:09] <Myrth[home]> stdin: i'm there, but before there were different instructions involving manual editing configuration files. i wonder if they won't conflict
[07:09] <emmatiia> I've tried to install PHP5 using package utility and apt, but I can't get anywhere
[07:09] <nexamac> my desktop's ubuntu crashed, and im too lazy to fix it while working on this one, so for the past 2 days or so ive been having windows xp on a 32" in monitor just above my laptop
[07:09] <nexamac> quite confusing
[07:09] <stdin> Myrth[home]: don't worry, just follow the instructions there, everything else is taken care of for you :)
[07:09] <emmatiia> Both ways it tells me that the package is corrupted or the hash is wrong
[07:10] <truent> stdin, i cant get some 'release candidate' type package from somewhere that will most likely be about as good as the real thing.. and beat the rush? ;p
[07:10] <stdin> emmatiia: try doing "sudo apt-get update" first
[07:10] <terran4000> nexamac: bad question on my part
[07:10] <emmatiia> done that already, as Konsole suggested :/
[07:10] <Myrth[home]> stdin: thanks
[07:11] <terran4000> nexamac: above "Master" (still in the output tab), is there a green led above master?
[07:11] <stdin> truent: the link in the topic has that, yes. just follow the guide there
[07:11] <nexamac> terran4000: :>
[07:11] <nexamac> yes
[07:11] <Jucato> truent: the difference between the last release candidate (rc2) and the final release is quite big... so...
[07:11] <truent> heh k
[07:11] <stdin> Jucato: don't forget there's svn755919 in there too
[07:11] <terran4000> nexamac: click it and and make sure it's a bright green, not a dull one.
[07:12] <Jucato> oh yeah... PPA's.. pfft
[07:12] <stdin> most RC2 packages are in gutsy-backports, but who uses those :P
[07:12] <nexamac> terran4000:  done
[07:13] <terran4000> Master at 100%, PCM at 100% and green light 'on' above master and still no sound?
[07:13] <nexamac> yep
[07:13] <nexamac> any output you want?
[07:13]  * terran4000 scratches head.
[07:14] <terran4000> if all the slides in Output are up, and all green leds are 'on' ...
[07:14] <nexamac> hmm
[07:14] <terran4000> hmm
[07:14] <terran4000> time to think of a new approuch
[07:14] <nexamac> in the KMix configure, what should Volume Values be set to?
[07:14] <nexamac> None/absolute/relative
[07:14] <terran4000> abs
[07:15] <nexamac> done
[07:15] <nexamac> :p
[07:15] <nexamac> there is ONE thing that crossed my mine
[07:15] <nexamac> seeing as its a laptop
[07:15] <nexamac> you know the fn+Fxx to adjust speaker volume?
[07:15] <Myrth[home]> hm.. when i try running xterm in Xephyr :2 - AUDIT: Tue Jan  8 23:14:38 2008: 29164 Xephyr: client 1 rejected from local host (uid 1000)
[07:15] <nexamac> i cant use those as its a mac keyboard and i havent set them up as i have to clue how to..
[07:15] <nexamac> think that could cause a problem?
[07:16] <nexamac> my fn key simply doesnt do jack sh*t :>
[07:16] <terran4000_> geh, sorry. comp froze
[07:16] <terran4000_> Did I ever mention I hate ATI?
[07:17] <nexamac> ;o
[07:17] <Myrth[home]> nm, found the answer on the web
[07:17] <nexamac> terran4000_: fn+Fxx to adjust volume on laptops
[07:17] <nexamac> i havent set them up as its a macbook and i simply have no clue how to
[07:17] <nexamac> could it cause a problem?
[07:17] <terran4000_> nexamac: usually software controlled ...
[07:17] <nexamac> aight
[07:17] <terran4000_> 'usually'
[07:17] <NexaMac> ;>
[07:18] <Nexano> wrong button again
[07:18] <Nexano> rofl
[07:18] <terran4000_> and brb, cat managed to get her nose in a wrong place again AND break some glass.
[07:18] <Nexano> was gonna say *cough apple cough*
[07:18] <KevinAlaska> what would a "Bus error (core dump) mean?  I am trying to run firefox but this is the error given if I try to run it from shell... otherwise when I do it from KDE I just an hour glass thing for about 30 seconds to 1 minute about?
[07:21] <terran4000_> Hmm
[07:22] <terran4000_> Nexano: you could try fn+vol and see if that works ....
[07:22] <NexaMac> terran4000_: opening an .mp3 got me "please check that your soundcard if configured properly/you have the correct output plugin seleceted/no other program if blocking the soundcard"
[07:22] <NexaMac> like i said, fn doesnt work, and i havent set those keys up :/
[07:22] <terran4000_> NexaMac:  > ps -A | grep artsd
[07:23] <NexaMac>  8672 ?        00:00:00 artsd
[07:23] <terran4000_> hm, ok .. so that's running
[07:24] <terran4000_> random question ... what options do you have in the Output tab of kmix
[07:24] <terran4000_> meaning: Master, PCM. Digital ... ect
[07:24] <Daisuke_Ido> this certainly takes a while
[07:25] <Daisuke_Ido> resizing and moving an ext3 fs
[07:25] <NexaMac> headset, pcm, front, sorround, line, mic, mic boost
[07:25] <Daisuke_Ido> & partition
[07:25] <terran4000_> Daisuke_Ido: a few cups of tea and a book are recommended tools for the job
[07:25] <terran4000_> Ok, no headset plugged in?
[07:25] <NexaMac> and my speakers input (physical) is emitting a red LED
[07:25] <NexaMac> cant be good :<
[07:26] <NexaMac> nah i tried plugging a headset in, didnt work :/
[07:26] <terran4000_> wait .. speakers input?
[07:26] <NexaMac> yeah?
[07:26] <NexaMac> wait
[07:26] <NexaMac> physical
[07:27] <NexaMac> as in, on the side of my laptop
[07:27] <NexaMac> not the mixer
[07:27] <terran4000_> o.O never knew there was just a thing on a mac
[07:27] <NexaMac> ? :o
[07:27] <NexaMac> argh this is pissing me off
[07:27] <terran4000_> a red led by the speakers on a mac ... odd.
[07:27] <chris0626891> This is amazing! http://gizmodo.com/photogallery/microserveces08/1000446145
[07:27] <NexaMac> one computer wont get video card to work, one wont get sound and a third wont get wireless
[07:28] <NexaMac> put
[07:28] <NexaMac> them
[07:28] <NexaMac> all
[07:28] <NexaMac> together
[07:28] <NexaMac> :<
[07:28] <terran4000_> heh
[07:28] <mahasamoot> how can I take snapshots with my webcam?
[07:28] <NexaMac> mahasamoot: is it properly set up?
[07:28] <xoqa> will kubuntu come out with a kde4 version on jan. 17?
[07:28] <chris0626891> I can't get sound to wok in KDE4, hopefully this will be fixed by release :P
[07:28] <chris0626891> You mean the 11th?
[07:28] <NexaMac> actually terran4000_
[07:28] <NexaMac> ive got a usb soundcard lying around
[07:28] <NexaMac> ill give it a shot
[07:28] <xoqa> s/17/11
[07:28] <chris0626891> It better come out the same day KDE4 is releaed T_T
[07:28] <mahasamoot> NexaMac: Yes, I think so... what do I need to do?
[07:29] <Jucato> Kubuntu will provide packages asap. maybe on the same day, maybe not
[07:29] <xoqa> :D
[07:29] <chris0626891> I hope so :)
[07:29] <xoqa> can't wait
[07:29] <chris0626891> Me neither.
[07:29] <chris0626891> I used it..
[07:29] <Jucato> you'll have to :P
[07:29] <xoqa> haha
[07:29] <chris0626891> But for some reason, my whole menubar disipeared.
[07:29] <Jucato> (to wait I mean)
[07:29] <chris0626891> so.. i'm back to 3.5
[07:30] <mahasamoot> NexaMac: it  works w/ kopete but not camorama
[07:30] <terran4000_> NexaMac: do you have xmms installed?
[07:30] <NexaMac> yes
[07:30] <mahasamoot> NexaMac: it's a Logitech Pro 9000 HD webcam
[07:31] <terran4000_> NexaMac: fun idea! > mplayer song.mp3
[07:31] <NexaMac> mahasamoot: i always used aMSN for that :p
[07:31] <terran4000_> at least mplayer gives decent output info
[07:31] <mahasamoot> NexaMac: it works on aMSN, but I want to take still pics
[07:32] <NexaMac> terran4000_: do i have to set it up properly or just download and run?
[07:32] <NexaMac> mahasamoot: cant help ya then :|
[07:33] <terran4000_> NexaMac: mplayer pretty much 'just' works (usually) for audio.
[07:33] <terran4000_> And it's got great verbose output
[07:34] <NexaMac> terran4000_: what if it wont open? ;(
[07:34] <NexaMac> sec
[07:35] <terran4000_> o.O
[07:35] <Nexano> damn you kde
[07:35] <Nexano> :p
[07:35] <terran4000_> haha
[07:36] <Nexano> first time i tried dual booting on a mac, i didnt install rEFLt first
[07:36] <Nexano> big mistake
[07:36] <Nexano> :<
[07:37] <terran4000_> refllt? o.O
[07:37] <Nexano> bootloader
[07:37] <terran4000_> ah
[07:37] <Nexano> without it i just about cant boot osx, cause grub acts lika stuckup b****
[07:37] <Nexano> like a
[07:38] <terran4000_> >_>
[07:38] <Demonho-br> hello.. me again
[07:38] <Nexano> lo
[07:38] <Demonho-br> I installed the kubuntu kde4 rc2, and i would like to get my wireless working,
[07:38] <Demonho-br> is it possible ?
[07:38] <Nexano> thats pretty vague info
[07:38] <terran4000_> Everything possible with enough beer.
[07:39] <Demonho-br> the livecd is only 466mb so i think there is no modules to wireless conection
[07:39] <terran4000_> don't recommend flying though with beer. Woke up the next day with one mighty headache.
[07:39] <Demonho-br> anyway. kde4 rc2 doesnt have adept oO
[07:39] <Demonho-br> and in my systemsettings  i saw no option to configure restricted driver  for my card
[07:39] <Demonho-br> intel 9345ABG
[07:39] <Demonho-br> ... google is not helping too
[07:39] <Myrth[home]> if i run in Xephyr per kde4-rc2 manual "startkde" it runs kde 3.5
[07:40] <stdin> run /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde
[07:40] <Demonho-br> i installed the kde4 from livecd.. i didnt have kde3 before
[07:40] <Demonho-br> Nexano, hehe i think its all information i know
[07:41] <terran4000_> KDE4 is not really 'stable' in my opinion. It's pretty and all, but it's not for production use 'yet'
[07:41] <terran4000_> With it's final release it should be but RC2 is just that: Release Candidate.
[07:42] <dhq> terran4000_: have you tried kde4
[07:42] <stdin> "KDE4" != "KDE 4.0.0" ;)
[07:42] <terran4000_> dhq: yes I have
[07:43] <terran4000_> at least if we are talking about RC2 from the repo's
[07:44] <Nexano> grr
[07:44] <Nexano> deafult gateway is obviously invalid
[07:44] <Nexano> but eh..
[07:44] <Nexano> ive been using it forever
[07:44] <Nexano> gg
[07:44] <terran4000_> Nexano: so ... did you try: >mplayer song.mp3
[07:44] <terran4000_> ?
[07:44] <Nexano> yeah
[07:44] <Nexano> no sound
[07:44] <Nexano> what did you want from it?
[07:44] <terran4000_> some output ^_^
[07:45] <Nexano> thats pretty vague info ;o
[07:45] <terran4000_> mplayer -v
[07:45] <dhq> terran4000_: after 12th it will be stable rite
[07:45] <Nexano> terran4000_: pastebin? :<
[07:45] <terran4000_> dhq: sorry but I don't know. I'm not following the KDE4 devel too much. Not am I interested it in ... so I don't know.
[07:46] <terran4000_> Nexano: please :-
[07:46] <terran4000_> :-)
[07:46] <Nexano> well i cant >_>
[07:46] <Nexano> stupid wireless
[07:46] <terran4000_> haha
[07:47] <terran4000_> hmm, time to think.
[07:48] <Nexano> allright
[07:48] <Nexano> anyone want to tell me why kubuntu cant accept the fact that my gateway is what it is? :/
[07:49] <foibles> hi there, can someone help me out with getting festival to work?
[07:49] <foibles> the text to voice program?
[07:49] <foibles> im having some issues with oss and esd it looks like
[07:49] <terran4000_> Nexano: did you try using ifconfig to set it manually?
[07:50] <Nexano> terran4000_: tried setting it manually through the gui
[07:52] <terran4000_> never tried a gui to do a man's job
[07:52] <Nexano> :>
[07:53] <NexaMac> SO
[07:53] <NexaMac> my osx wireless works at least
[07:53] <terran4000_> woot
[07:53] <NexaMac> <3 that
[07:53] <NexaMac> gonna try kubuntu again
[07:53] <NexaMac> brb :P
[07:53] <terran4000_> gl
[07:53] <Demonho-br> =\
[07:53] <Nexano> thanks
[07:54] <Demonho-br> Nexano, what is his wireless card ?
[07:54] <Demonho-br> do u know ?
[07:54] <Nexano> whose?
[07:54] <Demonho-br> Nexano, nexamac
[07:54] <Nexano> merh
[07:54] <Nexano> its an bcm card
[07:54] <Demonho-br> merh ?
[07:54] <Demonho-br> oh
[07:54] <Nexano> was working until i rebooted >_>
[07:54] <Demonho-br> =(
[07:54] <Demonho-br> no
[07:54] <terran4000_> bcm? ooo
[07:54] <terran4000_> ndis works for that rather well
[07:54] <Demonho-br> Nexano, nexamac said his wireless is working in osx
[07:54] <Nexano> yeh
[07:54] <Demonho-br> Nexano, i asked couz my intel doesnt work in osx
[07:55] <Nexano> Demonho-br: newsflash, i am nexamac
[07:55] <Demonho-br> intel 9345abg
[07:55] <Demonho-br> lol
[07:55] <Demonho-br> :P
[07:55] <Nexano> so dont correct me about statements i make about myself :<
[07:55] <Demonho-br> Nexano, why my card doesnt work in Pc-BSD and osx ?
[07:55] <Demonho-br> =\
[07:55] <Nexano> XD
[07:55] <Demonho-br> Nexano, im not !
[07:55] <Nexano> why ask me? ;)
[07:55] <Demonho-br> Nexano, because u hacko
[07:55] <Demonho-br> :D
[07:55] <Nexano> hacko?o_O
[07:55] <Nexano> wait
[07:55] <Nexano> WHAT
[07:56] <Nexano> its working? :O
[07:56] <Nexano> holy nuts
[07:56] <Demonho-br> what ?
[07:56] <nexamac> aight
[07:56] <nexamac> pastebin incoming terran4000_
[07:56] <nexamac> this is like killing gamon, 50% of the time he smacks you back
[07:57]  * terran4000_ awaits a pastebin
[07:57] <nexamac> tsk
[07:57] <nexamac> impatient?
[07:57] <nexamac> http://pastebin.com/d60d2b29a
[07:58] <nexamac> hightlighting terran4000_ is what i do
[07:58] <nexamac> <3
[07:58] <terran4000_> no, just panicing that I owe a friend 30g in wow ><
[07:58] <Nexano> haha
[07:58] <Nexano> what are you, level 30? :P
[07:58] <terran4000_> 32
[07:58] <jussi01> !ot
[07:58] <Nexano> seriously? :D
[07:58] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:58] <Nexano> argh
[07:58] <terran4000_> meh fine fine
[08:02] <nexamac> !ot
[08:02] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:04] <terran4000_> hmm, pastebin ....
[08:04] <terran4000_> NexaMac: that's one strange output ...
[08:04] <terran4000_> you sure you did: mplayer -v somesong.mp3
[08:04] <terran4000_> ?
[08:04] <NexaMac> i like strange
[08:05] <NexaMac> its close to unique
[08:05] <NexaMac> no
[08:05] <NexaMac> i did mplayer -v
[08:05] <terran4000_> >_>
[08:05] <NexaMac> >_<
[08:05] <terran4000_> -v with the song ^^
[08:05] <terran4000_> unique == grass is not greener on the other side ;-)
[08:06] <NexaMac> song title as shown in mplayer or the name of the file?
[08:06] <NexaMac> im guessing the last one
[08:06] <terran4000_> name of file
[08:07] <terran4000_> so .. if you had a song file named bebop.mp3
[08:07] <terran4000_> mplayer -v bebop.mp3
[08:07] <NexaMac> http://pastebin.com/d5b14f43f
[08:07] <NexaMac> hit ctrl+c at the end there
[08:09] <terran4000_> hm,
[08:09] <terran4000_> try this: mplayer -v Stiff Upper Lip.mp3
[08:09] <terran4000_> and no other commands
[08:10] <jussi01> terran4000_: you need the \ for spaces
[08:10] <NexaMac> pastebin.com is gonna kill me for this one
[08:11] <jussi01> terran4000_: try using tab completion for it
[08:11] <terran4000_> eh, true enough jussi01 ...
[08:11] <NexaMac> http://pastebin.com/d7d8ac810
[08:12] <terran4000_> bleh
[08:12] <terran4000_> so I guess it should be
[08:12] <jussi01> ie. brochure\ edits.doc
[08:12] <terran4000_> mplayer -v Stiff\ Upper\ Lip.mp3
[08:12] <terran4000_> or so right?
[08:12] <jussi01> terran4000_: correct
[08:12] <terran4000_> yeah ... need the "\" in there NexaMac
[08:12] <jussi01> making sure the case is correct also
[08:14] <NexaMac> http://pastebin.com/d3f557760
[08:15] <terran4000_> something tells me "Stiff Upper Lip.mp3" isn't exactly where we want it to be ...
[08:15] <NexaMac> :o
[08:16] <jussi01> terran4000_: are you in the directory where the file is located?
[08:16] <terran4000_> jussi01: NexaMac is the one we are trying to get the output from.
[08:16] <NexaMac> its on my desktop truth be told
[08:16] <jussi01> ahh, ok
[08:17] <jussi01> NexaMac: are you in the Desktop directory?
[08:17] <NexaMac> now i am
[08:17] <jussi01> NexaMac: try now ;)
[08:17] <NexaMac> http://pastebin.com/d5ae6dc80
[08:17] <noaXess> is there a special installation for a kubuntu server?
[08:18]  * terran4000_ bangs head on table
[08:18] <chris0626891> Why.. would you want a Kubuntu server?
[08:18]  * NexaMac hides
[08:18] <chris0626891> Why not just a regular Ubuntu server? o_0
[08:18] <jussi01> noaXess: servers shouldnt have a gui...
[08:18] <ardchoille> noaXess: There's the server install cd or..
[08:19] <ardchoille> !lamp | noaXess
[08:19] <ubotu> noaXess: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:20] <terran4000_> NexaMac: ok ... <cough> Where on your computer is there a mp3 located. Whichever directory it is ... go to it
[08:20] <terran4000_> Once there, type:
[08:20] <terran4000_> mplayer -v
[08:20] <terran4000_> and then use auto-complete to help you type in the name of the song
[08:20] <terran4000_> song/mp3 that is
[08:21] <NexaMac> k :p
[08:21] <NexaMac> NOW were talking
[08:22] <chris0626891> Does anyone know why my KDE4 menu poofed? :(
[08:23] <chris0626891> Is there a config file I can delete that fixes this?
[08:23] <NexaMac> terran4000_:  http://pastebin.com/d48572d76
[08:24] <terran4000_> ok, now we're getting somewhere
[08:25]  * terran4000_ goes back to farming
[08:25] <NexaMac> >_>
[08:25] <terran4000_> one sec, horse
[08:25] <terran4000_> *horde
[08:27] <terran4000_> okie .....
[08:27] <terran4000_> anywho
[08:28] <NexaMac> yeees?
[08:28] <terran4000_> is thinking
[08:28] <NexaMac> :p
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[08:29] <terran4000_> NexaMac: you have gutsy? right
[08:29] <terran4000_> ?
[08:29] <terran4000_> you enabled restricted, universe and mutltiverse too right?
[08:30] <NexaMac> hmm
[08:30] <NexaMac> HMM
[08:30] <NexaMac> gutsy yes
[08:30] <NexaMac> didnt enable any of those
[08:30] <terran4000_> ok, one sec
[08:30] <jussi01> !enter | NexaMac
[08:31] <ubotu> NexaMac: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:31] <NexaMac> ._.
[08:31] <terran4000_> lol
[08:32] <terran4000_> http://pastebin.com/d781573aa
[08:32] <NexaMac> what about it? :o
[08:32] <terran4000_> hmm, maybe I should enable backports
[08:32] <terran4000_> anywho
[08:32] <terran4000_> enable restricted, universe and multiverse like I did there
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> NexaMac, you can do it in add/remove programs in your system menu
[08:33] <jussi01> or adept
[08:35] <NexaMac> so adept restricted, universe and multiverse?
[08:35] <xoqa> how do i access 'dive into python' after downloading it?
[08:35] <NexaMac> screw that
[08:35] <NexaMac> terran4000_: terminal command,s or do i add it all in one file?
[08:35] <terran4000_> xoqa: depends on what file type it is
[08:36] <terran4000_> terminal commands, right. one sec
[08:36] <xoqa> how do you find out what type of file it is through apt?
[08:37]  * xoqa is reading the man page in hopes of finding the answer
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> xoqa, try file <file you want to query>
[08:37] <terran4000_> sudo echo "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted universe multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:38] <terran4000_> sudo echo "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates main restricted universe multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:38] <terran4000_> and
[08:38] <terran4000_> sudo echo "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-security main restricted universe multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:38] <xoqa> ActionParsnip: thanks. but now i've got to find the file :P
[08:38] <terran4000_> guess also this could work ...
[08:38] <terran4000_> sudo echo "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-backports main restricted universe multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> xoqa, so you dont know where you downloaded it to?
[08:38] <xoqa> wherever apt downloaded i suppose
[08:39] <xoqa> no i don't know where it's at
[08:39] <stdin> terran4000_: "sudo echo ... > file" will always fail
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> xoqa, if you installed with apt-get install then its installed
[08:39] <xoqa> ActionParsnip: yep, but where is the question :P
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> xoqa, what comand did you use?
[08:39] <terran4000_> stdin: why would sudo echo bleh >> ..." fail?
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> terran4000_, seems ok to me
[08:40] <xoqa> ActionParsnip: aptitude
[08:40] <stdin> terran4000_: because the redirect ">>" is done by the shell (as the user)
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> xoqa, the full command please
[08:40] <xoqa> ActionParsnip: sudo aptitude install diveintopython
[08:40] <terran4000_> geh, makes sense I guess
[08:40] <stdin> terran4000_: echo "thing" |sudo tee -a file" is the way (-a is append)
[08:40] <nexamac> so hwat, i dont do it afterall? :>
[08:41] <terran4000_> eh, ask stdin to translate..
[08:41] <terran4000_> it's 3am. I gotta be off.
[08:41] <nexamac> thanks for your help :p
[08:41] <stdin> replace "sudo echo" with "echo" and replace ">>" with " | sudo tee -a "
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> xoqa, just type "diveintopython &" at CLI (without quotes)
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> xoqa, http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/doc/diveintopython its in the repos so you can install it with sudo apt-get install diveintopython
[08:43] <terran4000_> Sorry for not fixing you're problem.
[08:43] <xoqa> ActionParsnip: yep, i've tried that
[08:43] <terran4000_> Wish I coulda helped more.
[08:43] <xoqa> it doesn't do anything
[08:44] <terran4000_> nexamac: 'night
[08:44] <terran4000_> Night guys and gals
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> xoqa, /usr/share/doc/diveintopython
[08:46] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[08:46] <nexamac>  stdin: but echo doesnt do anything? :/
[08:46] <nexamac> nvm
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> xoqa, maybe /usr/share/doc/diveintopython/html/toc/index.html
[08:46] <ForgeAus> Python rox :)
[08:46] <xoqa> nice
[08:46] <stdin> echo just echoes :)
[08:46] <xoqa> lol
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> xoqa, you got it?
[08:47] <xoqa> how'd you find it ActionParsnip?
[08:47] <xoqa> yep
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> xoqa, www.google.com
[08:47] <ForgeAus> hehe echo echo cho cho ho o o o o ... . . .
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> xoqa, id create a shortcut on your desktop
[08:48] <nexamac> stdin: so why am i supposed to type it? o_O
[08:49] <stdin> because you're sending the string that echo prints to the next command
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> xoqa, could even change the icon to http://www.onlinecomputerbooks.com/images/diveintopython.gif
[08:49] <xoqa> ActionParsnip: i don't see the point
[08:49] <xoqa> i'm going to remove it
[08:49] <marx2k> quick question... if I want to edit a file association in a file manager, but I need the command (cksfv) to run it with the specified directory it was clicked in, the syntax would be "cksfv -C /dir/name" so, if I was to edit the "Open With.." dialog, would I put "cksfv -C \w"? or what is the directory subsitution? %w?
[08:49] <xoqa> it's diveintopython.org
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> xoqa, its a tutorial n python.
[08:49] <xoqa> i just wanted the book
[08:49] <xoqa> i thought it was the book but it's really just a copy of diveintopython.org
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> xoqa, apparently it is, in html fromat
[08:49] <stdin> nexamac: for example "echo something | command" sends "something" to the input of the command "command"
[08:50] <ForgeAus> def myfunc (arg):
[08:50] <xoqa> and pdf.. and others :P
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> xoqa, oh, i see
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> xoqa, i'd just download the pdf on the site :)
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> !kiss
[08:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiss - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:50] <ForgeAus> its also built into some compilers...
[08:51] <ForgeAus> dive into python is in activepython's help and its also built into a few other python help systems
[08:53] <noaXess> !runlevel
[08:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:53] <stdin> !init
[08:53] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[08:55] <arwin> tes
[08:55] <arwin> testing
[08:56] <stdin> !test | arwin
[08:56] <ubotu> arwin: Failed.
[08:56] <stdin> :)
[08:56] <arwin> :D
[08:56] <arwin> where are u
[08:56] <jords> !test | me
[08:56] <ubotu> me: Failed.
[08:56] <jords> :<
[08:56] <stdin> on the interbolgosphere
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> !test | ActionParsnip
[08:57] <jords> !test | ubotu
[08:57] <ubotu> ubotu: Failed.
[08:57] <jords> :P
[08:57] <se7en> i should be running kdm as a windows manager or ... how can i check
[08:57] <arwin> scramble??
[08:57] <stdin> se7en: kdm is the display manager, not the window manager
[08:57] <stdin> kwin is the window manager
[08:58] <se7en> sorry display manager
[08:58] <arwin> everyone in here is bot??
[08:58] <stdin> arwin: no, only ubotu (or it's the only one that's supposed to be here)
[08:58] <se7en> i get since today after compiz --replace a error
[08:59] <stdin> se7en: kdm has nothing to do with compiz
[08:59] <noaXess> !inittab
[08:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inittab - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:59] <arwin> i see
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> se7en, what is the error?
[09:00] <arwin> quit
[09:00] <arwin> weks
[09:00] <stdin> you need a /
[09:00] <se7en> ActionParsnip:
[09:00] <se7en> /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Another window manager is already running on screen: 0
[09:00] <se7en> /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Fatal: No manageable screens found on display :0
[09:00] <se7en> exec: 378: /usr/bin/metacity: not found
[09:02] <se7en> as fare as i can see emerald can't replace kwin
[09:03] <noaXess> to change the runlevel i can use eg.: telinit 3 right?.. in which file is no the line id:3:initdefault: ?
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> se7en, http://gravityboy.livejournal.com/30382.html
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> se7en, may help
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> se7en, http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?p=44659
[09:04] <se7en> it worked till i tried to have a panle on the top of my desktop ...
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> se7en, what app is giving you the panel?
[09:06] <se7en> ActionParsnip: system settings > desktop > behavior > menu bar at top of screen
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> se7en, does it run ok when it is at the bottom
[09:07] <se7en> i didn't try anymore i just disabled the top panle but now i cant start compiz anymore
[09:08] <noaXess> !vim
[09:08] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[09:09] <jords> VIM IS USER FRIENDLY!!!!!
[09:09] <jords> :O
[09:09] <KevinAlaska> Would anyone know how to automate the shutdown of the computer at a given time?
[09:09] <noaXess> !find vim
[09:09] <ubotu> Found: vim, vim-common, vim-doc, vim-gnome, vim-gui-common (and 18 others)
[09:09] <jords> KevinAlaska: You could use cron and shedule 'halt' for root
[09:09] <se7en> so ActionParsnip everything is back to the way it was only compiz is not running anymore and google doesnt help much because everybody asuming something is wrong with the graphic card drive ...
[09:10] <jords> at a paticular time
[09:10] <noaXess> ok.. there is a vim package that highlights the code.. is this an extra package or a default?
[09:12] <KevinAlaska> jords: what might cron be? a default app in KDE?
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> !cron | KevinAlaska
[09:12] <ubotu> KevinAlaska: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[09:12] <KevinAlaska> ... ahhh.. thank you :)
[09:14] <foibles> it possible to schedule a command to execute at a certain time?
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> !cron | foibles
[09:14] <ubotu> foibles: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> I'm sure there's an echo in here
[09:15] <foibles> for instance, something that looks like: 10:00 audacious /media/music/techno.playlist?
[09:16] <foibles> ActionParsnip, thanks
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> foibles, its all in the howto :)
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> foibles, np
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> Just think about 5 years ago everyone kind of shyed away from Linux but it seems to be making a huge surge :D
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> well, on the massed market of home users
[09:20] <foibles> ActionParsnip, i actually didnt know what linux was for a long while
[09:20] <foibles> im not exactly sure how i got into it
[09:21] <foibles> i read something, and looked deeper into it
[09:21] <foibles> downloaded a livecd, and fell in love at the power of it
[09:21] <foibles> im just a home user
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> I was on XP and got REALLY random IRC_GREATER_OR_EQUAL_TO BSODs. So I switched to Mandriva and then Kubuntu :)
[09:22] <foibles> ActionParsnip, i think my first was slackware
[09:22] <foibles> it was a bitch to get working
[09:22] <ardchoille> !ot
[09:22] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[09:22] <kossi> hey
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> hey kossi
[09:23] <kossi> si si
[09:23] <kossi> do you speak french
[09:23] <kossi> ?
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> !fr | kossi
[09:23] <ubotu> kossi: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:24] <nexamac> gonna give my poor mac a few hours rest
[09:24] <nexamac> later peeps
[09:25] <Briareos1> i've created a drive image of my root partition and now put that image back onto the disk (image_of_sda2_root.img > /dev/sda2), but now i get "Error loading operating system"
[09:25] <Briareos1> any idea?
[09:25] <Briareos1> (the sda2 is set active)
[09:42] <oem> hey whats up guys
[09:42] <ardchoille> In kcontrol > KDE Components > Service Manager, KDED Media manager is checked, but it never starts up when logging into kde. Everything is fine once I manually click "start", then it runs normally. What would keep this service from starting upon login?
[09:45] <Briareos1> i got it: in /etc/mtab the root partition was set to sda3 while it is sda2 ...
[09:47] <XadVio> hi im back
[09:50] <XadVio> does anyone know about C++
[09:54] <Jucato> XadVio: I know a little. but if it's a C++ programming question, the best place to ask is in ##c++
[09:54] <kossi> kikoo
[09:55] <kossi> xd
[09:55] <XadVio> i just need to know a little bet more on translating nembers to binary
[09:59] <jussi01> hmmm, how does one make html messages be viewable by default on kmail?
[10:01] <ardchoille> jussi01: In kmail prefs, Security > Reading tab > HTML Messages ?
[10:03] <jussi01> ardchoille: thanks
[10:03] <ardchoille> yw
[10:07] <nuggz> there u are
[10:07] <nuggz> wud up bor!!
[10:08] <nuggz> egg nuts!!
[10:12] <XadVio_> hey whats up
[10:12] <XadVio_> my network was turned off
[10:12] <nuggz> downloading some essential mixes
[10:12] <XadVio_> nice
[10:12] <naught102> undeleting on an ext3 partition on a USB HDD... Hard or Easy?
[10:13] <naught102> I just deleted ~300 photos accidentally
[10:13] <nuggz> my external deleted 7000 of my songs...stay away from Maxtor externals
[10:14] <naught102> dude, sorry, but that doesn't help
[10:15] <qubuntu> linux下有什么杀毒软件马？
[10:16] <ardchoille> !cn | qubuntu
[10:16] <ubotu> qubuntu: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[10:17] <qubuntu> are there any ant-virus softs in linux? man
[10:17] <ardchoille> !antivirus | qubuntu
[10:17] <ubotu> qubuntu: antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[10:18] <XadVio_> you dont need antivirus for linux unless u going to use ur programs on windows
[10:20] <qubuntu> I am newer of linux, is there really no virus in linux?
[10:20] <XadVio_> yes but its makable
[10:20] <ardchoille> qubuntu:  http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10/06/linux_vs_windows_viruses/
[10:20] <maurice_> Hello there
[10:21] <XadVio_> there probably some that exist
[10:21] <XadVio_> but really rare i guess
[10:21] <qubuntu> why so few?
[10:22] <ardchoille> qubuntu: That web page that I posted eplains the state of viruses in Linux.
[10:22] <nuggz> cause 93 % of comps run windows
[10:22] <XadVio_> becouse the most viruses are made only for windows
[10:22] <qubuntu> oh, I see in your html
[10:23] <qubuntu> many thanks. I needn't get worried never
[10:23] <XadVio_> its all windows now days
[10:24] <XadVio_> what type of linux are you using?
[10:24] <qubuntu> it may be changed in the future, because more and more people will select linux
[10:25] <qubuntu> ubuntu 7.10
[10:25] <XadVio_> cool
[10:25] <qubuntu> easy to use ~
[10:25] <XadVio_> ya i know
[10:26] <qubuntu> but I realy know little about it
[10:26] <qubuntu> friends help me launch it
[10:27] <XadVio_> what do you mean lauch it?
[10:27] <qubuntu> what about your linux version?
[10:27] <qubuntu> install it , sorry
[10:28] <XadVio_> im using ubuntu to
[10:28] <qubuntu> cool too~
[10:28] <qubuntu> how do you feel about it?
[10:28] <sebbar> hi, when kde 4.0 is released, will kubuntu with kde4 install cds be available?
[10:29] <XadVio_> its not bad i really like it
[10:30] <qubuntu> I use compiz to get the 3D effect ,so cool
[10:30] <ardchoille> sebbar: afaik, the next release of Kubuntu (Hardy Herron) will ship with kde 3.5 and kde4 as options.
[10:31] <qubuntu> kde 4.0 will available in the next version of ubuntu, hardy
[10:31] <jussi01> qubuntu: yes, as an option
[10:31] <XadVio_> is ur computer fast?
[10:32] <qubuntu> how to get the 3D effect in KDE3.5 ? I want it
[10:32] <ardchoille> !compiz | qubuntu
[10:32] <ubotu> qubuntu: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[10:33] <XadVio_> you mean for the linux ubuntu?
[10:33] <qubuntu> core 2 T7250 ,with 2G memory
[10:33] <XadVio_> ok i have no idea what that is
[10:34] <qubuntu> thanx
[10:34] <XadVio_> sorry
[10:34] <qubuntu> nothing
[10:34] <gladier> 2 x 2g
[10:34] <gladier> the cpu
[10:34] <jussi01> !ot
[10:34] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[10:35] <qubuntu> as a beginner I just want to try every effect
[10:35] <XadVio_> cool
[10:36] <qubuntu> ~
[10:36] <XadVio_> i planing to get a laptop someday
[10:37] <jussi01> XadVio_: please see the offtopic from the bot ;)
[10:39] <domentarion_> f/away
[10:44] <XadVio_> anyone wants to share pictures of porn
[10:44] <XadVio_> ??
[10:44] <qubuntu> ?
[10:45] <XadVio_> or porn films
[10:45] <nuggz> u dirty dog
[10:47] <parkin> hi, i can not open add/remove programs in kubuntu
[10:47] <XadVio_> have you opened it before
[10:48] <parkin> it just loads but doesnt open
[10:48] <parkin> no
[10:48] <XadVio_> sorry i mean when is the last time it worked?
[10:49] <XadVio_> maybe you need to restart youre computer
[10:49] <parkin> ill try, brb
[10:52] <parkin> works now :)
[10:52] <XadVio_> cool
[10:52] <parkin> simple as that^
[10:52] <phi_> how do uninstall/turn off kdewallet?
[10:54] <phi_> anyone?
[10:54] <XadVio_> i dont know what that is
[10:54] <XadVio_> try google
[10:55] <phi_> yeh im getting nuffin from google
[10:55] <XadVio_> me ether
[10:55] <parkin> 
[10:55] <ardchoille> phi_: Open kcontrol with ctral+alt+f2 and type in kcontrol . once kcontrol is open, go to Security & Privacy > KDE Wallet . Uncheck "Enable the kde wallet subsystem" and click Apply
[10:55] <XadVio_> sorry
[10:56] <ardchoille> phi_: Sorry, it's alt+f2
[10:56] <phi_> i think kdewallet has something to do with kde daemon
[10:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !find kdewallet
[10:58] <ubotu> Package/file kdewallet does not exist in gutsy
[11:00] <RogueJediX> !find kwalletmanager
[11:00] <ubotu> Found: kwalletmanager
[11:04] <parkin> anyone know how to make the background transparent in konversation?
[11:04] <phi_> hey i cant find kdewallet
[11:04] <pheebz> how do i turn it off
[11:05] <pheebz> im using ubuntu but no one in #ubuntu knows how to do it
[11:05] <jords> pheebz: so you have kde installed as well?
[11:06] <pheebz> i guess
[11:06] <ardchoille> pheebz: Ah, you're using ubuntu, that is info we did not have.
[11:06] <ardchoille> pheebz: Open kcontrol with alt+f2 and type in kcontrol . once kcontrol is open, go to Security & Privacy > KDE Wallet . Uncheck "Enable the kde wallet subsystem" and click Apply
[11:07] <pheebz> Could not open location 'file:///kcontrol'
[11:07] <ardchoille> pheebz: open a terminal and type in kcontrol
[11:08] <pheebz> its tellin me to install it first
[11:08] <pheebz> is that rite?
[11:09] <ardchoille> pheebz: Ok, let's try this. Open a terminal and run: kwalletmanager
[11:09] <noaXess> in kde is there any global setting how folder or file lists are sorted?
[11:10] <ardchoille> pheebz: Once kwalletmanager is open, right click the tray icon and choose "Configure Wallet", then disable it and exit kwalletmanager
[11:10] <pheebz> ok
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> lo all
[11:11] <parkin> hi
[11:11] <ardchoille> pheebz: When you next need help with a kde app, please be sure to mention that you are using ubuntu instead of kubuntu. That will help folks here to help you.
[11:11] <pheebz> ok
[11:12] <pheebz> hey i got kde control centre but i cant find the kdewallet thing
[11:12] <ardchoille> pheebz: In the Security & Privacy section?
[11:12] <pheebz> security & privacy doesnt have kdewallet setting
[11:12] <pheebz> yeh
[11:13] <pheebz> its has crypto and privacy
[11:13] <pheebz> thats it
[11:13] <ardchoille> pheebz: I'm guessing that you kde rather than kubuntu-desktop ?
[11:13] <pheebz> do i have to install it?
[11:14] <pheebz> phi@phi-laptop:~$ kwalletmanager
[11:14] <pheebz> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 171
[11:14] <pheebz>   Major opcode:  149
[11:14] <pheebz>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:14] <pheebz>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:14] <pheebz> Failed to open device
[11:14] <ardchoille> !paste | pheebz
[11:14] <ubotu> pheebz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:14] <pheebz> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 171
[11:14] <pheebz>   Major opcode:  149
[11:14] <pheebz>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:14] <pheebz>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:14] <pheebz> Failed to open device
[11:14] <pheebz> thats wat my terminal says
[11:15] <Lynoure> pheebz: that probably just means you don't have a wacom tablet, don't worry about that message
[11:15] <ardchoille> !baddevice | pheebz
[11:15] <ubotu> pheebz: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[11:15] <pheebz> dont worry  i got it
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> pheebz, 171 error. That's the wacom stanzas and their refrence in "ServerLayout"
[11:17] <pheebz> thanx guys
[11:31] <administrator> hello
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> hello administrator
[11:32] <administrator> :D
[11:32] <administrator> i new to this
[11:32] <administrator> *i'm
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> administrator, the username kinda gives it away
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> administrator, you liking it?
[11:48] <jussi01> could someone point me to a good tutorial on setting up a bzr repository on my server?
[11:51] <XadVio> hi im back again
[11:51] <XadVio> so what is everyone up to
[11:55] <vbgunz> whats the quickest and easiest way to right now get any kind of notification on the hour by the hour?
[11:56] <emilsedgh> vbgunz: kalarm?
[11:56] <vbgunz> I'll try that :)
[12:05] <ubuntu> Hi all >(
[12:05] <ubuntu> Hi all :)
[12:24] <ibou> hi
[12:24] <micaela> greetings all
[12:24] <ibou> how to open an irc hyperlink in konqueror in konversation ?
[12:25] <micaela> so my power manager doesn't seem to recognize my cpu...I have options to suspend or hibernate but nothing for cpu policy etc...
[12:27] <micaela> is it possible that my laptop is in desktop mode?\
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> ibou, theres a setting in konversation. let me google
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> ibou, http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/webbrowser_screen_co.png
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> ibou, pref -> behavior -> general
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> ibou, use custom webbrowser konqueror %u
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> ibou, did you google at all?
[12:32] <moha> hi all
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> h moha
[12:32] <moha> I have some problem with my sound!
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> moha, wassup with it
[12:33] <moha> ActionParsnip: My keyboard volume keys does not work till I run a gnome app like toem!
[12:34] <moha> ActionParsnip: then just the volume keys work and others like next&prev traks does not work!
[12:35] <moha> I wanna control my sound rnormali with my keyboard in kubuntu
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> moha, have you googled any?
[12:36] <moha> ActionParsnip: found nothing usefull! even in forums!
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> moha, let me try
[12:36] <moha> ActionParsnip:  ty ;)
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> moha, do you have all the latest updates?
[12:37] <moha> ActionParsnip: not all of them! some!
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> moha, sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:38] <moha> ActionParsnip: will this downloads a lot?
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> moha, whatever updates you need
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> moha, depends what you don't have
[12:39] <moha> ActionParsnip: let me see...
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> moha, i'd check that first and come back (sounds like you have a slow connection)
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> (no offence)
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> moha, once you are fully updated try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys
[12:40] <moha> ActionParsnip: yeah! to some extetnt.. my bandwidth is low here! ;)
[12:40] <moha> ActionParsnip: ooh! cool! sure!
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> moha, try the keys after the update thouh. those updates fix lots :)
[12:41] <XxXValeteXxX> Vista Jokes: Nº 1 question on Vista FAQs - "How do I get my money back?"
[12:41] <moha> ActionParsnip: this may be usefull too! yes?
[12:41] <XxXValeteXxX> xD
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> moha, indeed
[12:42] <XxXValeteXxX> Vista Jokes: "This will end your Vista session. Do you want to play another game?"
[12:42] <XxXValeteXxX> hahaha I am full of these lines
[12:42] <XxXValeteXxX> xD
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> Theres an update in vista - The RED screen of death.
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> check it on youtube
[12:42] <jussi01> !ot | XxXValeteXxX
[12:42] <ubotu> XxXValeteXxX: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[12:42] <XxXValeteXxX> ActionParsnip :x
[12:44] <micaela> aha...Laptop mode isn't running and I can't seem to get it to start
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> micaela, what happens when you power on?
[12:50] <micaela> everything boots up fine...laptop mode just doesn't start...ndiswrapper gui won't start either
[12:50] <phimic> hi all
[12:50] <phimic> i got problems with setting up a odbc connection for openoffice
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> micaela, do you have the latest updates?
[12:51] <micaela> yep
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/utils/ubuntu-laptop-mode
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> micaela, i found that
[12:51] <micaela> thankee sai
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> micaela, its not something ive playedwith really. gimme a sec
[12:51] <parkin> t
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> do you have ubuntu-laptop-mode-tools?
[12:52] <micaela> ok
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> micaela, http://samwel.tk/laptop_mode/faq
[12:52] <phimic> i miss the packages libmysqlclient10 and libmysqlclient14
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> micaela, scroll down to 3. Is Laptop Mode Enabled?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> phimic, http://www.easysoft.com/applications/openoffice_org/odbc.html
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> phimic, i just found that. i dont know how useful it is
[12:55] <phimic> ActionParsnip: i will check this thankx
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> phimic, np
[12:57] <micaela> It's not
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> micaela, i'd check that link i sent and make sure you have the laptop-tools
[13:01] <onishidato> hey guys, how can i remove a wrong link i have just add in apt source list?? using the code please :)
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> onishidato, why not just use kate. its WAY easier
[13:02] <onishidato> kate??
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> onishidato, sudo kate /etc/apt/source.list
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> !kate | onishidato
[13:02] <ubotu> onishidato: Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> onishidato, correction
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> onishidato, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:03] <onishidato> ok
[13:04] <onishidato> ActioParsnip: thnks, this is really good exp
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> onishidato, makes sense to use a text editor to edit a text file
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> onishidato, if you start doing stuff like this loads its a good idea to backup the file first so you can revert back if it all goes wrong
[13:06] <onishidato> ActioParsnip: do you know any website can teach me about using code in Linux?? i'm want to learn some simple commad
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> onishidato, sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup
[13:06] <onishidato> ActionParsnip: do you know any website can teach me about using code in Linux?? i'm want to learn some simple commad
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> onishidato, just read manual pages for commands
[13:06] <onishidato> which one?
[13:06] <onishidato> ActionParsnip: which one??
[13:07] <Jucato> !patience | onishidato
[13:07] <ubotu> onishidato: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[13:08] <onishidato> !thank |jucato
[13:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thank - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:08] <Jucato> !bash | onishidato
[13:08] <ubotu> onishidato: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[13:08] <onishidato> jucato: thanks for calm me down :)
[13:09] <Jucato> onishidato: http://tldp.org/guides.html is a good source too (look for the Bash guide for beginners, but it's 2006)
[13:11] <onishidato> jucato: thanks again
[13:13] <MGalaxy> could u plz suggest me a "personal time organizer" software?
[13:15] <parkin> hi, i was able to see wireless networks then then there was an error crash and now i can not see any wireless networks anymore
[13:15] <parkin> it only sees wired devices
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> parkin, do you see your wifi adapter when you run ifconfig?
[13:21] <parkin> yes i see eth1
[13:21] <parkin> that is the wireless
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> parkin, you should have more. let me find the command
[13:23] <parkin> k thanks
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> parkin, try lspci
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> parkin, can you see any wireless devices in that list?
[13:25] <parkin> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8001 Gigabit Ether                       net Controller (rev 13)
[13:25] <mgp> hi, I have a weird conection system at my campus. Basically, I have to introduce a user name and password to access the internet. (though I have no knowledge of or configuration for a proxy server) So when I open a browser I get prompted for username and password. Obviously this is fine for browsing the intenet but is akward for command line programs or other more "complicated connections." For instance, adept(i use kubuntu) could not connect to the servers. I so
[13:25] <mgp> //user:password@rest.of.the.url to all the urls in the source list. Unfortunately for packages that aren't downloaded from these urls, for instance the on free flash, still fail. For some programs like wget that allow the http-user argument I can alias them and their is no problem. Unfortunately for programs like amarok (internet streams) or kopete, I don't seem to get promted a password and conections fail. Does anyone know of a way to set a default http passwor
[13:25] <mgp>  at least for kde? Sorry for the long post, not used to chating.
[13:25] <mgp> To MGalaxy: what de you mean by "personal time organizer"? Something like Korganizer?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> parkin, thats the wired network
[13:26] <parkin> ok
[13:27] <moha> MGalaxy: Korgnizaer is best
[13:27] <MGalaxy> mgp: yes, I found KOrganizer right now :D is there anything better than korganizer?
[13:27] <pheebz> when i open screenlets manager this msg comes up.. "Unable to connect or launch daemon. Some values may be displayed incorrectly."
[13:27] <pheebz> how do i fix this
[13:27] <pheebz> im using ubuntu
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> parkin, anything else
[13:27] <mgp> I love Korganizer but there are others
[13:27] <parkin> 02:03.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connec                       tion (rev 05)
[13:27] <parkin> that?
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> parkin, bingo! ok we have a compatible wifi card and its installed
[13:28] <mgp> for instance I tink the Mozilla suite has one
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> parkin, can you give us a pastebin of your /etc/network/interfaces file please
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> !paste | parkin
[13:28] <ubotu> parkin: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[13:28] <parkin> k
[13:29] <mgp> MGallaxy: or if you prefer webbased then google provides a calendar (not comparable though)
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> mkgp, you need to set the http proxy in all your apps
[13:29] <pheebz> does anyone know how i can fix the popup error
[13:31] <mgp> but I have no proxy to set up, No address I can find I only have a user and password
[13:31] <mgp> pheebz: what do you mean popup error?
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> mgp, do a tracert. the first hop is your proxy
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> mgp, or should be
[13:32] <pheebz> when open screenlets manager
[13:33] <pheebz> a error pops up
[13:33] <mgp> I'm having problems to install traceroute beacuse of the proxy (hahaha) be back in a sec
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> mgp, its already in
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> mgp, its a standard command
[13:33] <mgp> not for me: The program 'tracert' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:sudo apt-get install traceroute
[13:33] <pheebz> wat is daemon
[13:33] <pheebz> ?
[13:33] <moha> MGalaxy: Korgnizer provides Jalali calender and uir the best aspect to me!
[13:34] <moha> *its
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> !daemon | pheebz
[13:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about daemon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:34] <pheebz> !daemon
[13:34] <pheebz> ???
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> pheebz, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_(computer_software)
[13:35] <MGalaxy> moha: hi mohi :D
[13:35] <moha> MGalaxy: hi boy! ;)
[13:36] <pheebz> Unable to connect or launch daemon. Some values may be displayed incorrectly. what does this message mean
[13:37] <pheebz> and how can i fix this
[13:37] <pheebz> the message only pops up when i open screenlets manager
[13:37] <Jucato> what's screenlets manager?
[13:38] <pheebz> its like vista docklets
[13:38] <pheebz> or widgets
[13:39] <Jucato> yes, but which one? Superkaramba (KDE)? gDesklets (GNOME)? some third party thingy?
[13:39] <mguezuraga> Jucato: are you the Jucato that posts in planet developer?
[13:39] <Jucato> planet developer?
[13:39]  * Jucato is only in planet ubuntu and planet kde...
[13:40] <mguezuraga> Jucato: ok, dot.kde.org says planet developer, sorry
[13:40] <Jucato> oh ok. didn't notice that :)
[13:40] <mguezuraga> Jucato: anyway, congrats for all your articles posted there
[13:40] <Jucato> heh thanks... (they're too long for comfort...)
[13:43] <qubuntu> I just know that the Ubuntu systerm may ruin the hardware of my laptop!
[13:43] <qubuntu> is that ture?
[13:44] <articpenguin3800> why isnt kubuntu 8.04 LTS
[13:44] <Jucato> articpenguin3800: decision from Canonical. nothing much we can do or say about it
[13:44] <Jucato> it's theirs to give or take.
[13:44] <benluo> hi
[13:45] <articpenguin3800> mark shuttleworth the owner of canonical?
[13:45] <Jucato> Canonical as in the company
[13:45] <benluo> is it a good time to install kde4 package in 7.10?
[13:45] <mark__> whats a demux?
[13:46] <articpenguin3800> id wait 2 more days for the real release of kde 4 but its up to you
[13:46] <Jucato> benluo: well, I'd advice waiting for the final release
[13:46] <Jucato> mark__: demultiplexer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiplexer
[13:46] <sahin_h> articpenguin3800: For me Kubuntu is an LTS or not dosen't matter. I upgrade my systems every 6 months.
[13:47] <benluo> Jucato: thanks
[13:47] <articpenguin3800> so do i =)
[13:47] <mguezuraga> qubuntu: yes, thats true. Use Windows Vista, its a better choice
[13:47] <articpenguin3800> whats true?
[13:47] <Jucato> mguezuraga: hmm?
[13:47] <qubuntu> I just hear that the Ubuntu systerm may ruin the hardware of my laptop!
[13:47] <mguezuraga> (ironic)
[13:48] <sahin_h> articpenguin3800: I like the idea KDE4 is going to part of the next release.
[13:48] <articpenguin3800> the hard disk power off issue?
[13:48] <Jucato> mguezuraga: he's not a native english speaker. I doubt ironies or sarcasm translate well :)
[13:48] <qubuntu> how can i DO to stop it without change for Vista?
[13:48] <articpenguin3800> sahin_h: me too
[13:48] <articpenguin3800> qubuntu: the hard disk power off issue?
[13:48] <sahin_h> articpenguin3800: So one point of view: So sad Kubuntu Hardy won't bee LTS.
[13:49] <mguezuraga> Jucato, qubuntu: sorry, it was a joke
[13:49] <qubuntu> yes, u said it
[13:49] <sahin_h> articpenguin3800: Another point of view: Yep, but Kubuntu has the freedom to include KDE4 in Hardy.
[13:49] <articpenguin3800> its sad for the people who dont want to upgrade to new releases for 3 years
[13:50] <sahin_h> articpenguin3800: And for me the second was the sympatic choice.
[13:50] <Jucato> sahin_h: it has always been the plan to have a KDE 4 version, with or without LTS
[13:50] <jpatrick> articpenguin3800: it's to make KDE4 for the next release
[13:50] <dbmoodb> btw why is flash plugin installation broken (installing from the repository i take it )
[13:50] <Jucato> what changed is where we focus/put weight on now...
[13:50] <sahin_h> Jucato: Yes, I know, however the developers now can focus on KDE4 havily.
[13:50] <articpenguin3800> i feel bad for the people who are still with Dapper drake
[13:50] <jpatrick> articpenguin3800: it's their choice
[13:51] <jpatrick> articpenguin3800: for me LTS is just a name tag
[13:51] <sahin_h> articpenguin3800: My server at my home still on dapper. However this is a server, not a desktop.
[13:51] <Jucato> dbmoodb: see the channel topic
[13:51] <mark__> can anyone send me there repo list?
[13:51] <jpatrick> !sources | mark__
[13:51] <ubotu> mark__: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[13:51] <qubuntu> mguezuraga: how can I do if I want to use ubuntu safer to my hardware?
[13:51] <jpatrick> arg
[13:52] <Jucato> !source-o-matic | mark__
[13:52] <ubotu> mark__: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[13:52] <Jucato> jpatrick: that one?
[13:52] <jpatrick> Jucato: :)
[13:52] <mark__> thanks :)
[13:52] <dbmoodb> sorry - the title says it is broken
[13:52] <qubuntu> mguezuraga: still there ?
[13:52] <mguezuraga> qubuntu: Don't know, I use *k*ubuntu and don't have a laptop/notebook
[13:52] <Jucato> qubuntu: I don't know where you heard that, but without any solid proof, that's just a rumor.
[13:53] <S_a_m_y> hi is there a way to "hot plug" a beamer on a laptop?
[13:53] <Jucato> mguezuraga: see? he didn't get your joke :P
[13:53] <qubuntu> loll
[13:53] <dbmoodb> samy - ir beamer ?
[13:53] <daniel100119> New to kubuntu (coming from opensuse), my question: in adept updater, which feeds me with packages to be updated - where can I view information regarding what a particular update is about (what does it fix, etc.), I can only view information about the package itself.
[13:54] <mguezuraga> Jucato: I see, no more ironies here :)
[13:54] <S_a_m_y> dmb: regular beaner... projector
[13:54] <qubuntu> mguezuraga: http://www.linux-hero.com/rant/ubuntu-hard-drive-explosions/
[13:54] <dbmoodb> ah daniel in the update check it should show you
[13:54] <jpatrick> daniel100119: in the changelog section
[13:54] <dbmoodb> checker*
[13:54] <Jucato> mguezuraga: nah. I had the advantage of knowing that he was not a native English speaker
[13:54] <jpatrick> daniel100119: details I think it's in
[13:54] <mguezuraga> qubuntu: explosions? damn!
[13:54] <articpenguin3800> !dapper
[13:54] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) was the fourth release of Ubuntu. See !lts for more details.
[13:54] <S_a_m_y> dbmoodb: regular beamer... projector
[13:55] <Jucato> daniel100119: click on the package name to bring down the longer description and action buttons. click on Details and go to the Changelog tab
[13:55] <dbmoodb> oh .... and by hot plug you mean just plug in
[13:55] <S_a_m_y> dbmoodb: like under windows... I have fn keys to switch to external monitor
[13:55] <dbmoodb> well it would depend on your graphics card no ? - never tried it personally (you should be able to set it up so you can use the fn function ...- you just said it)
[13:55] <dbmoodb> well samy what happens atm ?
[13:56] <mark__> whats the app manager begining with S?
[13:56] <qubuntu> Jucato: any more? I just want to solve the problem, no more time to chat other things
[13:56] <articpenguin3800> is it possible to download old releases like warty or horay
[13:56] <dbmoodb> yes
[13:56] <jpatrick> articpenguin3800: yes, from releases.ubuntu.com
[13:56] <S_a_m_y> dbmoodb: doesn't seem to react... have an ati
[13:56] <mark__> synaptic?
[13:56] <dbmoodb> oh which ati driver are you using ?
[13:56] <Jucato> jpatrick: not from there
[13:56] <lg188> hello
[13:56] <S_a_m_y> dbmoodb: non-free
[13:56] <articpenguin3800> XD those are the only too ubuntu versions i havent used =)
[13:57] <Jucato> jpatrick, articpenguin3800: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[13:57] <dbmoodb> ah, i see so it is an ati thing, doesn't the ati utility provide you the ability to do it ?
[13:57] <jpatrick> Jucato: right
[13:57] <Jucato> articpenguin3800: those are basically dead releases
[13:57] <dbmoodb> (i mean ati and x-org conf)
[13:57] <S_a_m_y> dbmoodb: "ati utility"?
[13:57] <mgp> ActionParsnip: Ok I managed to install tracert. Having problams with the command. Where should I tracert to? Wold my gateway bet the proxy? Thanks for your help!
[13:58] <articpenguin3800> jucato: i know there dead i want to see what ubuntu looked like in warty
[13:58] <benluo> i use amd notebook, but can not make wireless work
[13:58] <dbmoodb> oh ops maybe it doesn't come with the ubuntu one ... (probably doesn't)
[13:58] <Jucato> articpenguin3800: just what it looked like? I think there are screenshots floating around...like a museum of ubuntu screenshots
[13:58] <dbmoodb> so samy you can't use the other projector when you hook it up ? mm
[13:58] <benluo> i use BC??? wifi card in HP NX6325  notebook
[13:58] <dbmoodb> - nothing actually happens ...
[13:58] <jussi01> !bcm43xx | benluo
[13:58] <ubotu> benluo: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[13:58] <articpenguin3800> forgot about screenshots
[13:58] <mguezuraga> To be fair, I stop using kubuntu at home, but here (at work) I'm using Feisty
[13:59] <daniel100119> jpatrick, Jucato: thanks, now I understand!
[13:59] <lg188> i have a bug i think ... if i move a panel that i just have added  from the head panel to an other place its going back to its place before.. the head panel
[13:59] <S_a_m_y> dbmoodb: the screen function simply doesn seem to be implemented...
[13:59] <S_a_m_y> dbmoodb: *switch*
[13:59] <jussi01> !bug | lg188
[13:59] <ubotu> lg188: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[14:00] <articpenguin3800> isnt edgy going to be unsupported in the next couple months??
[14:00] <Jucato> jussi01: I think he basically means he has a problem/issue... may not necessarily be a bug :)
[14:00] <mguezuraga> I think opensuse offers the best kde Ive seen in years, but I miss apt-get ;)
[14:00] <dbmoodb> - kde can be skinned
[14:01] <dbmoodb> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=602574
[14:01] <dbmoodb> for samy
[14:01] <Jucato> dbmoodb: you can type 'S', press the Tab key until you get S_a_m_y's nick :)
[14:02] <Jucato> that way his IRC app will highlight/notify him properly :)
[14:02] <dbmoodb> S_a_m_y:  yeah i mean the atioconfig thing before
[14:02] <dbmoodb> ah didn't know that
[14:02] <Jucato> good :)
[14:02] <Jucato> !tab | dbmoodb
[14:02] <ubotu> dbmoodb: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[14:03] <dbmoodb> irc - i didn't know
[14:04] <Jucato> any decent irc client would have that. if it doesn't, it's not decent :P
[14:04] <qubuntu> excuse me : is there any one using laptop when you know the OS may ruin your hardware within a short time?
[14:05] <S_a_m_y> dbmoodb: your links helps. i'll have to try that.
[14:05] <qubuntu> If you enable laptop mode, then it will enable aggressive power management on the drive and that may lead to some reduction in hard drive lifespan.
[14:06] <qubuntu> how do u feel about that ?
[14:06] <mark__> i can't sudo apt-get anything
[14:06] <dbmoodb> eh qubuntu
[14:06] <Jucato> mark__: what does sudo apt-get update tell you?
[14:06] <dbmoodb> enable laptop mode will probably be good, if you install the laptop utilities
[14:06] <Jucato> mark__: if you need to paste long lines of text, use a pastebin
[14:06] <Jucato> !pastebin | mark__
[14:06] <ubotu> mark__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:07] <dbmoodb> besides that only affects certain drives and it is not ubuntu alone
[14:07] <qubuntu> dbmoodb: whats the next?
[14:07] <dbmoodb> - so i take it samy crashed ?
[14:07] <qubuntu> how to complete the safer settings
[14:08] <mark__> it just says it couldn't find the package
[14:08] <dbmoodb> ah well you can use it or you can just modify /etc/acpi/power.sh i think
[14:08] <mark__> the package being xawtv
[14:08] <Jucato> dbmoodb:, qubuntu: http://ubuntudemon.wordpress.com/2007/10/26/laptop-hardrive-killer-bug/
[14:09] <dbmoodb> juscato i know
[14:09] <Jucato> !info xawtv
[14:09] <ubotu> xawtv: X11 TV application. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.95.dfsg.1-6ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 241 kB, installed size 704 kB
[14:09] <qubuntu> dbmoodb: can do me a favor to write down more details?
[14:09] <mark__> it can't find it though
[14:09] <Jucato> "laptop-mode is disabled by default. If you have enabled laptop-mode (in /etc/default/acpi-support) you should definitely disable it!"
[14:09] <dbmoodb> you just modify the -B to be -254
[14:09] <dbmoodb> ah jucato that is not at solution
[14:10] <Jucato> yep, just wondering about your early advice.. don't have a laptop anyway :P
[14:10] <Jucato> (lucky people...)
[14:10] <dbmoodb> rofl
[14:10] <qubuntu> dbmoodb: what's that mean by 254?
[14:10] <Jucato> or I have a laptop.. but... well...
[14:10] <lg188> ? know how to fix my problem ?
[14:11] <qubuntu> Jucato : u just simply shutdown that function?
[14:11] <dbmoodb> pretty much
[14:11] <Jucato> according to that blog... but I wouldnt know :)
[14:11] <dbmoodb> q on a laptop ?
[14:12] <qubuntu> I dont want it, for i may use my batter sometimes
[14:12] <jussi01> !away > mohi|afk
[14:12] <qubuntu> yes
[14:12] <mohi|afk> jussi01: ooh! sorry... ;)
[14:13] <jussi01> mohi|afk: :)
[14:14] <qubuntu> it seems that im nuts to open the laptop mode, i think
[14:14] <qubuntu> Jucato ,dbmoodb: but i need it
[14:15] <qubuntu> Jucato ,dbmoodb: set -B to -254?
[14:15] <dbmoodb> one sec
[14:15] <Jucato> qubuntu: ask dbmoodb, I don't know anything about it
[14:15] <dbmoodb> let me check
[14:15] <dbmoodb> first i want you to check something
[14:15] <qubuntu> Jucato ,dbmoodb: check what?
[14:15] <dbmoodb> i recommend you do a sudo apt-get install smartmontools
[14:15] <ForgeAus> can I configure my trash so that files I send there are instantly deleted rather than stored in a "recycle bin" like way?
[14:16] <qubuntu> Jucato ,dbmoodb: i did
[14:16] <dbmoodb> then run sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda|grep 193
[14:16] <Jucato> qubuntu: please stop asking me, coz I don't know
[14:16] <Jucato> ForgeAus: Shift+Del?
[14:16] <dbmoodb> so you can see the number
[14:16] <qubuntu> Jucato :sorry
[14:17] <ForgeAus> Jucato that doesn't work when I drag and drop to trash icon does it?
[14:17] <ForgeAus> ie you suggest I shift del or rightclick and delete it that way rather than dragging to trash?
[14:17] <Jucato> of course.. because you're moving to the trash... unless your trash has a gaping hole, then it'd be moved to the trash :)
[14:17] <qubuntu> dbmoodb: no number there
[14:17] <dbmoodb> ops ah ...
[14:17] <dbmoodb> brb
[14:17] <Jucato> ForgeAus: yep. if you're sure you don't need it
[14:18] <ForgeAus> I have my windows recycle bin as a delete rather than a storage area
[14:18] <qubuntu> dbmoodb: when i run :sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | grep Load_Cycle_Count, it show the number 14042
[14:18] <Jucato> this isn't exactly windows.. so I'm not sure it will behave like windows everytime :)
[14:18] <Jucato> maybe there's a feature.. but so far haven't seen one :)
[14:19] <dbmoodb> oh ok
[14:19] <dbmoodb> how old is the laptop qu
[14:19] <qubuntu> dbmoodb: then seconds later the number become 14050
[14:19] <dbmoodb> ah crap
[14:19]  * emilsedgh gives a piece of cake to Jucato
[14:19] <dbmoodb> - yes it appear you are affected
[14:20] <Jucato> emilsedgh: thanks.. but I'm a bit Vista right now
[14:20] <Jucato> er.. I meant "bloated"
[14:20] <dbmoodb> !vista
[14:20] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org and !windows
[14:20] <dbmoodb> brb
[14:20] <emilsedgh> Jucato: :P
[14:20] <emilsedgh> !windows
[14:20] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[14:21] <qubuntu> dbmoodb: what should I do , friend?
[14:21] <qubuntu> dbmoodb: what should I do , friend?
[14:22] <qubuntu> dbmoodb: too bad to choose vista
[14:22] <dbmood1> lol
[14:22] <dbmood1> one sec
[14:22] <dbmood1> ok well is your disk hda or sda ?
[14:23] <qubuntu> dbmoodl: sda
[14:23] <qubuntu> dbmoodl: is there any difference?
[14:23] <dbmood1> run
[14:23] <dbmood1> hdparm -B 254 /dev/sda
[14:23] <dbmood1> and edit
[14:24] <qubuntu> i have set power.sh to 255
[14:25] <dbmood1> you can try 255
[14:25] <qubuntu> dbmoodl: what that mean?
[14:25] <dbmood1> hdparm -B 255 /dev/sda then
[14:25] <dbmood1> that means turn off power saving features - pretty much
[14:25] <dbmood1>  A value of 255 will disable apm on the drive.
[14:25] <dbmood1> and /dev/sda is obviously the disk drive in question.
[14:27] <daniel100119> What is the recommend way of installing acrobat reader on kubuntu? Should I use Automatix or can you recommend any repository?
[14:27] <parkin> how do i turn on radio wifi on my a6vm laptop? in windows Fn + F2 doe- it
[14:27] <LjL> !automatix | daniel100119
[14:27] <ubotu> daniel100119: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[14:27] <LjL> daniel100119: unfortunately, there is not an official acrobat package anymore, because (i think) of legal reasons.
[14:27] <llutz> daniel100119: try kpdf  and see if you miss something
[14:27] <LjL> daniel100119: there might be some unofficial ones floating on the web
[14:27] <qubuntu> dbmoodl:/dev/sda: Permission denied
[14:28] <dbmood1> qubuntu: ok so re run sudo smartctl -a /dev/hda | grep Load_Cycle_Count
[14:28] <jussi01> !medibuntu
[14:28] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[14:28] <jussi01> daniel100119: ^
[14:28] <dbmood1> ah i meant sudo ...
[14:28] <LjL> jussi01: it's there? i missed it last time i checked
[14:28] <dbmood1>  sudo hdparm -B 255 /dev/sda
[14:28] <dbmood1> then compare the output - it should stop rising rapidly
[14:29] <jussi01> LjL: http://www.medibuntu.org/packages.php
[14:29] <daniel100119> LjL: thanks!
[14:29] <qubuntu> dbmoodl:/dev/sda:  setting Advanced Power Management level to disabled
[14:29] <qubuntu> i used sudo
[14:30] <mark__> is there a main universe repo?
[14:30] <LjL> daniel100119: use the repository jussi01 said, it's a pretty reliable one. i missed it completely... probably i had only checked letter "a" under "free" =)
[14:30] <LjL> mark__: "main" is a repo, and "universe" is another. which do you want?
[14:30] <LjL> well, they're components actually
[14:30] <mark__> universe
[14:30] <LjL> !universe
[14:30] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[14:30] <mark__> i can't find packages i'm looking for
[14:30] <LjL> mark__: which?
[14:31] <daniel100119> LjL: what did you mean by "/msg ubotu WorksForMe"?
[14:31] <dbmoodb> oh ..
[14:31] <mark__> well i search in synaptic for dvb and it comes up with nothing
[14:31] <dbmoodb> you used sudo
[14:31] <qubuntu> 14090
[14:31] <LjL> daniel100119: that you can type that command, and have ubotu be more verbose to use about a general reason why things like automatix are not necessarily good (and in this case specifically, they're pretty pretty bad)
[14:31] <LjL> !find dvb
[14:31] <ubotu> Found: dvb-utils, dvbackup, dvbsnoop, dvbstream, dvbtune (and 6 others)
[14:31] <dbmoodb> so what was it before and now wait a few seconds to a minute
[14:31] <qubuntu> dbmoodl: added 1-2 per second
[14:31] <LjL> daniel100119: please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[14:32] <dbmoodb> are you sure ?
[14:32] <qubuntu> dbmoodl: now it is 14100
[14:33] <mark__> mine finds none of them
[14:33] <dbmoodb> did the command sudo -B 255 /dev/sda work ?
[14:33] <qubuntu> dbmoodl: something wrong?
[14:33] <dbmoodb> yes it is still increasing no
[14:33] <daniel100119> What is ubotu?
[14:33] <dbmoodb> a bot
[14:33] <dbmoodb> !ubotu
[14:33] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[14:34] <dbmoodb> mmm try  hdparm -B254 /dev/sda
[14:34] <mark__> is there a repository i'm missing?
[14:34] <qubuntu> dbmoodl: let me try……
[14:34] <stmartin> Hi! I wanna ask you how to safely plug-out flash memory on kubuntu?
[14:34] <dbmoodb> then compare the numbers for the hard disk again
[14:34] <LjL> mark__:  please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file (sorry daniel100119, that wasn't intended for you)
[14:35] <jpatrick> stmartin: plug it in and it should detect it for you
[14:35] <daniel100119> LjL: no problem
[14:35] <stmartin> but how to unplug it safely?
[14:35] <stmartin> right click/ unmount?
[14:35] <jpatrick> stmartin: yes
[14:35] <stmartin> ok
[14:35] <stmartin> I have other question
[14:35] <stmartin> I have dual-boot (win xp and ubuntu)
[14:36] <stmartin> how can I see the disk drives C: and D: via ubuntu?
[14:36] <jpatrick> yes again!
[14:36] <LjL> !windowsdrivers | stmartin
[14:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about windowsdrivers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:36] <LjL> !windowsdrives | stmartin
[14:36] <ubotu> stmartin: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[14:36] <qubuntu> dbmoodl: then 14111  -----then it works: still 14111
[14:36] <dbmoodb> mmm - does ntfs-3g come stock in ubuntu gutsy ?
[14:36] <qubuntu> dbmoodl: thanx!!!!
[14:37] <dbmoodb> - yeah ah make the power.sh 254 , 255 doesn't work on all drives
[14:37] <stmartin> but they don't want to be mount
[14:37] <qubuntu> dbmoodl: what's more about the mode? no disadvantage?
[14:38] <mark__> www.pastebin.com ?
[14:38] <dbmoodb> eh
[14:38] <dbmoodb> no it is virtually disabled but not
[14:38] <LjL> !paste | mark__
[14:38] <ubotu> mark__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:38] <dbmoodb> some drives will not let you -255 that is all
[14:39] <mark__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51355/
[14:39] <mahasamoot> hi
[14:40] <qubuntu> dbmoodl: definitly, it works now. thanks! is the setting enough?
[14:40] <dbmoodb> ah yeah
[14:40] <dbmoodb> make the change in power.sh
[14:41] <dbmoodb> and be aware that if you use suspend a lot you should probably use hdparm to set it up so it doesn't exit that mode
[14:41] <qubuntu> is that mean i cant your my laptop batter?
[14:41] <mark__> LjL: how bad is it?
[14:42] <dbmoodb> eh
[14:42] <LjL> mark__: one second, i was busy with something else
[14:42] <dbmoodb> no i mean do you use suspend ...
[14:42] <mark__> LjL: no problem
[14:42] <dbmoodb> it is a state of low power usage
[14:42] <Jucato> mark__: you just need to disable the cdrom repository
[14:42] <qubuntu> dbmoodl: sometimes
[14:43] <LjL> mark__: it is pretty bad, because almost everything is commented out. the easiest thing to do is to generate a new list, this site can do it automatically
[14:43] <LjL> !easysource > mark__    (mark__, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:43] <Jucato> oh yeah....
[14:43] <dbmoodb> and no - i personally can't be bothered to change if for when i do use that + it seems to be fine to me anyway
[14:43]  * Jucato gave that link to him already though... but anyway...
[14:44] <dbmoodb> well don't worry about it too much qu - most of the time you will be set now, when you supend something the -B 254 will be removed (from working) - so you might want to just issue a sudo hdparm -B 254 /dev/sda after you return from suspending or just install hdparm and configure it
[14:44] <qubuntu> dbmoodl: lucky man
[14:44] <dbmoodb> ?
[14:44] <dbmoodb> lucky
[14:47] <qubuntu> dbmoodl: at lest, the number will not rise when i run the command
[14:47] <flake> how can I make my Start key on my keyboard 'sticky' instead of acting like a fire button.. ultimate goal is to pull up the k-menu using the key
[14:47] <qubuntu> dbmoodl: after the suspend i only need to run the command…that's ok
[14:48] <dbmoodb> ah and if you have it in power.sh it is set for when you boot up / use the computer - apparently (i have not tested) suspending and rsuming removed the setting (-b 254)
[14:48] <aleksey> hello
[14:48] <mark__> LjL: thank you so much
[14:49] <qubuntu> dbmoodl: i will miss "suspending" anyway
[14:54] <jussi01> !nickspam > jonoinemailhell
[14:54] <qubuntu> dbmoodb: the number still there. more: will it be changed roughly when I use windows xp in the same computer?
[14:54] <Jucato> jussi01: lol you just nickspam'ed jono :P
[14:55] <jonoinemailhell> jussi01: oops
[14:55] <Jucato> :D
[14:55] <jussi01> :D
[14:55] <jpatrick> haha
[14:55] <Jucato> jonoinemailhell: you kinda lose track of how many channels you're in  after a while :P
[14:57] <dbmoodb> mmm
[14:58] <dbmoodb> oh sorry q- didn't see hat q - ah do you mean when you use windows xp - nar windows overrides the hd's setting anyway (or so i believe)
[15:01] <stf> Hi. I deleted important files with rm. Can I undelete them? My fs is ext3.
[15:07] <qubuntu> dbmoodb: yes
[15:10] <qubuntu> dbmoodb: does the setting work for both OS ? you said it is wrote in the power.sh, why not the BIOS?or will the problem ocurs in the windows ?
[15:22] <buzkillington> can anyone help me find my ntfs drives?
[15:24] <cammel> ciao a tutti
[15:24] <jpatrick> !it | cammel
[15:24] <ubotu> cammel: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[15:25] <qubuntu_0> dbmoodb: still there? im back
[15:30] <stf> I deleted some important files with rm. Is there any way to undelete them? Other than grepping /dev/hda2 (I'm doing that right now)
[15:35] <flipmode> I am running 7.10 cant get my dvd or cds to read
[15:42] <diobolic> hey
[15:42] <diobolic> anybody there? :)
[15:43] <diobolic> nobodies home?
[15:43] <jussi01> diobolic: yes, Im here, how can i help?
[15:44] <diobolic> is this a chatbox?
[15:44] <jpatrick> diobolic: chat goes to #kubuntu-offtopic, this is a support channel
[15:44] <jussi01> diobolic: this is the Kubuntu support channel
[15:44] <diobolic> ow
[15:44] <diobolic> how to get to a chatbox?
[15:44] <jpatrick> diobolic: /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[15:44] <diobolic> thank you
[15:48] <sauro> ciao a tt
[15:49] <jussi01> !it | sauro
[15:49] <ubotu> sauro: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[15:52] <reech> Anyone available to help with symlinks-over-samba problem?
[15:57] <voonte> How do I enable colors in the console, at boot when the [ OK ] are shown?
[16:05] <stmartin> How to remove Local Disk and sda1 from Desktop?
[16:05] <jpatrick> stmartin: right-click it and configure desktop -> behaviour
[16:06] <onishidato> which code will we use to open a directory
[16:06] <onishidato> ??
[16:06] <Gulars> voonte, you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:06] <jussi01> onishidato: in the konsole?
[16:06] <onishidato> like this (/ect/X11/....)
[16:07] <onishidato> yeah
[16:07] <jussi01> cd
[16:07] <jussi01> ie. cd /etc/X11
[16:07] <onishidato> to open it??
[16:07] <voonte> Gulars, I've set the vga mode in menu.lst, what else do I need to change?
[16:08] <jussi01> onishidato: that will take you to it on the command line... try it and see
[16:08] <Gulars> this line: #color cyan/blue white/blue
[16:09] <voonte> Doesn't that just change the colors in the grub menu?
[16:09] <Gulars> (ie: remove the hash mark)
[16:09] <tinin> will kubuntu 8.04 include kde 4.1?
[16:09] <Gulars> wasn't that what you asked?
[16:09] <jpatrick> tinin: no, KDE4.1 will be end around end of year
[16:10] <tinin> thanx
[16:10] <voonte> Gulars, no hehe. I meant the text when different modules are being loaded and displayed a [ OK ] when it's done.
[16:10] <Gulars> oh, or are you thinking about the boot-messages (your not using usplash?)?
[16:10] <onishidato> jussi01 thanks
[16:10] <Gulars> hmm
[16:10] <jussi01> onishidato: :)
[16:11] <voonte> Gulars, I'll take a look at usplash thanks
[16:11] <onishidato> and jussi01: can you tell me how to create a new folder?? with console
[16:11] <jussi01> onishidato: mkdir foldername
[16:12] <jussi01> !cli
[16:12] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[16:12] <Gulars> voonte, that's just for not displaying the messages (ie: showing the kubuntu logo instead)
[16:12] <onishidato> jussi01: i'm newbie here :)
[16:12] <jussi01> onishidato: thats fine. see the message from the bot ^^:)
[16:12] <Gulars> I'm thinking along the lines of looking at he init scripts, but really I don't know
[16:13] <voonte> Gulars, ok, then that's not what I want. I suppose usplash is similar to gentoo's gensplash then. I found the /lib/lsb/init-functions which has the color stuff
[16:13] <voonte> also had support for "fancy" output, that might be what I'm looking for
[16:15] <onishidato> jussi01: thnks
[16:15] <onishidato> jussi01: :)
[16:20] <Gulars> voonte, interesting  - will check that out myself ;)
[16:23] <stmartin> where I can see my swap partition?
[16:23] <Sbucatone> hello i can't upload files with konqueror to mediafire.com ....sigh
[16:23] <Sbucatone> stmartin: go in system settings
[16:24] <Sbucatone> advaced
[16:24] <Sbucatone> disk
[16:24] <werner> stmartin: > free
[16:25] <werner> stmartin: (or, "man free")
[16:26] <stmartin> how I will be sure that my swap is installed correctly?
[16:26] <stmartin> why I have /dev/sda6 none swap sw 0 0?
[16:27] <Jucato> "none" there means that it doesn't have a mount point
[16:27] <werner> stmartin: this entry in fstab seems to be correct. type " free" in the shell and take a look ...
[16:27] <Jucato> "swap" means that it's a swap-type, "sw" is the swap option
[16:28] <flake> anyone running kooldock?
[16:28] <stmartin> and how to make it be mounted on boot?
[16:29] <stmartin> or how to recognize, if it is mounted on boot?
[16:29] <Jucato> [00:28] <werner> stmartin: this entry in fstab seems to be correct. type " free" in the shell and take a look ...
[16:29] <stmartin> yes, I did it
[16:29] <werner> and?
[16:29] <Jucato> and?
[16:29] <stmartin> Swap:      1020088          0    1020088
[16:29] <werner> stmartin: fine, everythings ok.
[16:29] <krokodil> stmartin: mounting your swap !!!
[16:29] <stmartin> it is ok
[16:29] <Jucato> so it's mounted. it's automatically done by the system
[16:30] <Jucato> er.. not "mounted"..
[16:30] <werner> if you ahve an entry in fstab it will be mounted automatically at boot-time
[16:30] <stmartin> and how to see if it is mounted on the start?
[16:30] <Jucato> it's enabled :)
[16:31] <stmartin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51367/
[16:31] <stmartin> how to know if all drives are mounted on the start?
[16:31] <werner> (or you can take a look at swapoff and swapon, but be careful, if you do not know, what you are doing,
[16:31] <werner> )
[16:31] <Jucato> stmartin: did something happen that makes you worry that it's not activated during boot?
[16:31] <stmartin> no
[16:31] <stmartin> just, I want to know it
[16:31] <werner> Jucato: good question ...
[16:31] <werner> stmartin: read a book :-)
[16:32] <stmartin> I don't know which is booted and which not
[16:32] <stmartin> actually, I am not sure
[16:32] <voonte> hard to convince :)
[16:32] <stmartin> any help?
[16:32] <werner> you saw the output of "free". you are sure now. :-)
[16:33] <stmartin> and for / and /home?
[16:33] <werner> or maybe you want to use something like "xosview" . nive tool for X.
[16:33] <werner> stmartin: " mount "
[16:33] <werner> s/nive/nice/g
[16:33] <Jucato> stmartin: those with "defaults" are mounted at boot if I recall correctly
[16:33] <Jucato> !fstab
[16:33] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[16:34] <krokodil> does anyone know why a "su - usera" when logged as usera nedd passwd ?
[16:35] <Lynoure> krokodil: why would you need to do that?
[16:35] <stmartin> How I can recognize them, that are booted up when Linux starts?
[16:35] <stmartin> there should be 0 0 or 1 1 or what?
[16:35] <krokodil> Lynoure : that's not the question :-)
[16:35] <voonte> stmartin, as werner wrote, type "moun"
[16:35] <voonte> sorry, "mount"
[16:35] <voonte> :P
[16:35] <werner> maybe this may help you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[16:36] <werner> krokodil: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[16:36] <Lynoure> krokodil: the answer: because that's how  su  works
[16:36] <Jucato> stmartin: read the link about fstab
[16:36] <Jucato> stmartin: and no, the last 2 digits on each line have nothing to do about mounting
[16:36] <stmartin> I receive this
[16:36] <stmartin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51369/
[16:37] <stmartin> Jucato I read that, and I didn't find information
[16:37] <krokodil> Lynoure : maybe you'r right, but it seems to be different in other distrib...
[16:37] <Lynoure> krokodil: that's why I wanted to know why you need to do it...  If it is in some script, just make it check for which user it's being run as, and not do  su  if you don't need to
[16:37] <krokodil> i'd like to be sure...
[16:37] <Jucato> stmartin: really? "defaults Uses the default options that are rw, suid, dev, exec, auto, nouser, and async."
[16:38] <Jucato> stmartin: then "auto and noauto With the auto option, the device will be mounted automatically (at bootup, just like I told you a bit earlier, or when you issue the mount -a command). auto is the default option. "
[16:38] <werner> stmartin: maybe you want to read https://help.ubuntu.com/
[16:38] <stmartin> and what is (rw,errors=remount-ro)?
[16:38] <stmartin> errors=remount-ro?
[16:38] <krokodil> Lynoure : i agree, thanks !
[16:38] <Jucato> stmartin: I don't have to post every paragraph in that page do I? :)
[16:39] <stmartin> ok, sorry
[16:39] <Jucato> stmartin: a quick google search on "errors=remount-ro" yields this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=315850
[16:39] <Lynoure> krokodil: you are welcome.  by the way, if you use  su  with - and not with -l, it's a bit picky and wants the - to be the last su option (at least officially)
[16:40] <krokodil> Lynoure : ok :) i have to leave, bye all
[16:41] <Daisuke_Ido> some days i hate linux...
[16:41] <Daisuke_Ido> stuck in 640x480 and no matter what i try, i cannot get it to break out of that.
[16:42] <werner> Daisuke_Ido: what the hardware?
[16:42] <stmartin> ok, thank you very much for the help
[16:42] <stmartin> I appreciate your efforts
[16:43] <Daisuke_Ido> nvidia geforce 7600 GS, using the nvidia driver, and it was working fine before i restarted the machine...  there may have been a kernel update that broke things, perhaps, i don't know.
[16:44] <Daisuke_Ido> not a huge deal though, i'm doing a fresh gutsy install once this iso's done downloading anyway
[16:46] <Jucato> try reconfiguring X... and yeah a new kernel sometimes messes things up
[16:46] <Jucato> (you can check in /var/log/ if a new one was installed...)
[16:47] <voonte> Does ubuntu automatically take care of rebuilding the nvidia driver when there's a new kernel update?`
[16:47] <Daisuke_Ido> Jucato: the reason i was looking at doing a fresh install is because i've been upgrading since edgy
[16:47] <Daisuke_Ido> voonte: supposed to
[16:47] <Daisuke_Ido> if you install from the repos like you should
[16:47] <Jucato> voonte: if you use the package driver
[16:47] <voonte> ok
[16:47] <Jucato> packaged*
[16:50] <Daisuke_Ido> here goes something...
[16:51] <ubuntu> Hola
[16:51] <vbgunz> how do you pipe with grep? e.g., opengl|3d ?
[16:52] <Daisuke_Ido> okay so i tried everything except the most blindingly obvious possibility
[16:52]  * Daisuke_Ido grumbles
[16:52] <Pici> vbgunz: depends on what you want to do.
[16:52] <Daisuke_Ido> thanks for smacking me around and pointing me in the right direction, Jucato :)
[16:52] <vbgunz> Pici: searching apt-cache for games and trying to filter on either opengl OR 3d
[16:53] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: reconfigure X?
[16:53] <Daisuke_Ido> sudo apt-cache search game | grep opengl
[16:53] <Daisuke_Ido> repeat with 3d because i'm lazy
[16:53] <wesley_> hello i have installed kubuntu again and set a / and a /home and swap and a big partition and set aankoppel point as /media/sda4 but now i want to drop files and its says that i cant acces it
[16:53] <Daisuke_Ido> Jucato: yep :)
[16:53] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: sometimes I've dreaded kernel updates just because of that :)
[16:54] <Pici> vbgunz: ah..:  apt-cache search games | egrep "(opengl|3d)"
[16:54] <vbgunz> pici so it does take on regular expressions but it evaluates a string to do so?
[16:55] <vbgunz> cool
[16:55] <Daisuke_Ido> ah ha
[16:55] <Daisuke_Ido> like i said
[16:55] <Daisuke_Ido> <-- lazy
[16:55] <vbgunz> I admit, I have so much to learn in regards to the shell :/
[16:55] <Daisuke_Ido> same here
[16:55] <Pici> same here
[16:55] <Daisuke_Ido> now to format my new 500gb of happiness
[17:02] <ForgeAus> just for fun: (note this isn't intended as spam... feel free to ignore it: http://chimp-test.com/ )
[17:03] <grandi> This isn't spam, but you really could add inches to your penis size!
[17:03] <bazhang> oh my
[17:04] <jpatrick> grandi: #kubuntu-offtopic please
[17:04] <Jucato> !language | grandi
[17:04] <ubotu> grandi: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:12] <papout> lut all
[17:13] <papout> #mangas
[17:14] <_dewd> Does anyone has an fix for the problem with kde filesharing msdfs proxy setting ?
[17:14] <_dewd> I saw an patch but this could not be applied some syntax error or something
[17:15] <djvu> Which package contains import/export filters for koffice ? I tried koffice-filter, no such package.
[17:19] <johnficca> where do i get a package for or the sources for amarok 2?
[17:21] <parkin> hi i can not see any networks in my Knetworkmanager
[17:22] <parkin> doesnt work mhen i plug in cable or with wireless
[17:23] <parkin> it used to work with cable but suddenly it didnt
[17:23] <Daisuke_Ido> make sure they aren't listed in /etc/network/interfaces
[17:24] <sylvain_> Hi all
[17:24] <sylvain_> I try to make a VPN
[17:25] <sylvain_> between a Linux OS (Ubuntu) and a Windows XP OS
[17:26] <sigma> !ftp
[17:26] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[17:26] <sigma> which is the best ftp client for kde?
[17:26] <jpatrick> sigma: Konqueror?
[17:26] <wesley__> wheres that bug fix for kdm theme manager ?
[17:27] <jpatrick> wesley__: which bug fix?
[17:27] <parkin> Daisuke_Ido what should i do in the /etc/network/interfaces ?
[17:27] <sigma> jpatrick: tried that, didnt quite work so well. im looking for something like filezilla, but in qt
[17:27] <wesley__> a bug that prevents you from setting new themes'
[17:28] <jpatrick> wesley__: I uploaded the new version to hardy less than a week ago
[17:28] <jpatrick> sigma: not sure then
[17:28] <jpatrick> sigma: I'm a ssh guy :)
[17:29] <wesley__> yes but i use gutys
[17:29] <jpatrick> wesley__: I'll ask for a backport
[17:29] <wesley__> okay is it stable?
[17:29] <sylvain_TPE> hi all
[17:30] <jpatrick> wesley__: backports = gutsy packages
[17:30] <wesley__> i know
[17:30] <sylvain_TPE> I try to make a VPN between a Linux OS (ubuntu) and a Windows XP OS
[17:30] <jpatrick> wesley__: gimme a few minutes and I'll have it done
[17:30] <wesley__> is that pack one deb?
[17:30] <wesley__> okay thats cool
[17:30] <ubuntu_> hy all
[17:31] <Lynoure> sylvain_TPE: That's a good idea. Any difficulties with it?
[17:31] <sylvain_TPE> I am searching for a software which could be the same in the two OS
[17:32] <sigma> jpatrick: lol whats the difference? i hear alot of people talking about ssh. never heard of it before
[17:32] <Lynoure> sylvain_TPE: you don't really need same software, just compatible software...
[17:33] <sylvain_TPE> Lynoure: yes, It could work
[17:33] <jpatrick> sigma: it gives you the terminal you get with Konsole, etc on the server
[17:34] <sylvain_TPE> But I think it's even better if I find a software which works on the two OS : the same config, the same parameters...
[17:34] <Lynoure> sylvain_TPE: openswan is common ipsec implementation on Linux, and works with WinXPs build-in ipsec
[17:34] <parkin> why does it have to be such a havvle to set up a simple wireless network
[17:34] <parkin> hazzle
[17:34] <sylvain_TPE> Lynoure: openswan you said ? OK thanks, I'm going to install and try it.
[17:35] <OpheLia> lalala
[17:36] <jpatrick> OpheLia: hello
[17:36] <OpheLia> hola
[17:36] <jpatrick> !es | OpheLia
[17:36] <ubotu> OpheLia: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:41] <XadVio> hello
[17:41] <sigma> hello XadVio
[17:42] <XadVio> how are you this morning
[17:42] <sigma> its night time here:)
[17:45] <wesley_> jpatrick have you already set kdm theme manager from hardy to gutsy back ports?
[17:46] <jpatrick> wesley_: I have filled the bug report, need for an archive admin to put the source in place
[17:46] <wesley_> okay so it will be probably in a few dayes in the updates?
[17:46] <jpatrick> wesley_: in gutsy-backports
[17:47] <wesley_> yes i have back-ports on
[17:50] <jpatrick> wesley_: wait a day or two :)
[17:50] <wesley_> okay
[17:51] <ardchoille> Is it possible to get a listing of just the apps which are available on gutsy-backports?
[17:51] <mathias_> is there any better program for msn messenger than kopete ?
[17:52] <emilsedgh> mathias_: amsn
[17:52] <ardchoille> mathias_: If you're having trouble connecting kopete to msn, try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade", there is a bug that cause kopete's problem with msn and an upgrade fixed it for many folks.
[17:52] <jpatrick> ardchoille: display all repos and have just backports enabled? :)
[17:53] <marioct> hello.
[17:53] <ardchoille> jpatrick: That'll work, ty
[17:53] <mathias_> ardchoille: only looking 4 a nicer app for it
[17:53] <bazhang> kopete is far superior imo
[17:53] <marioct> I've downloaded kubunutu 7.10, but I need the md5 checksum and I cant find it anywhere
[17:54] <marioct> anyone knows where in the kubuntu website are the md5 checksums?
[17:54] <ardchoille> marioct: http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/gutsy/MD5SUMS
[17:55] <jpatrick> marioct: or http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/gutsy/
[18:00] <mathias_> when i run firefox in windows i use ie-tab for som pages. is there anything like that for firefox in linux ?
[18:01] <marioct_> hello guys.
[18:01] <coreymon77> mathias_: its impossible for that to exist by definition
[18:01] <ardchoille> mathias_: Not usre if it's the same, but there is a nice firefox extension called Tab Mix Plus
[18:02] <coreymon77> mathias_: ietab really just opens the page with ie and then sticks it in a tab
[18:02] <mathias_> ardchoille:   i will try that
[18:02] <coreymon77> mathias_: so, by definition, its impossible to have ietab on linux
[18:03] <coreymon77> i just use the user agent switcher extension
[18:03] <mathias_> coreymon77:  i figuerd.. but i want somthing that can read those pages that mozilla dont do
[18:03] <asktoby> Is there a character map available? I'm not finding anything in the menus, regional settings, or adept.
[18:04] <coreymon77> because most sites that say they will only work with ie are just lying
[18:04] <hydrogen> .. or are using activex controls
[18:04] <coreymon77> mathias_: theyre just being lazy so that if their site is crappy, they can blame it on the browser
[18:04] <mathias_> ardchoille:   i cant find tab mix plus in adept ?
[18:04] <mathias_> Totaly newbie
[18:04] <bazhang> too true coreymon77
[18:05] <coreymon77> mathias_: 99% of the time all you need to do is make the site think that you are using ie and it works perfectly
[18:05] <ardchoille> mathias_: After reading what coreymon77 said, I don't think tab mix plus does what you want.
[18:05] <coreymon77> mathias_: firefox extensions are not on adept, they are on the firefox website
[18:06] <mathias_> coreymon77:  well lazy or not i still want to use the page
[18:06] <asktoby> Or, failing a charmap, does anyone know how to enter a german estset? (looks a bit like a B)
[18:06] <bazhang> mathias_: go add it as its easy to do--almost no effort required :}
[18:06] <coreymon77> mathias_: as i said, 99% of the time all you need to do is trick the site into thinking you are using ie and it works
[18:06] <ardchoille> mathias_: If you're interested, it's here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1122
[18:07] <coreymon77> ardchoille: thats not what he wants
[18:08] <coreymon77> mathias_: why do you need ie, does the site just tell you that it requires ie, or is there another reason
[18:08] <coreymon77> mathias_: are activex controls used?
[18:08] <coreymon77> bazhang: user agent switcher works pretty much all the time for me
[18:08] <mathias_> coreymon77: some options dosnt work in firefox
[18:08] <asktoby> Never mind - I found a ß on the internet and can now copy/paste it!
[18:09] <coreymon77> mathias_: such as?
[18:09] <coreymon77> mathias_: and what site is this?
[18:09] <mathias_> coreymon77: www.x40nordic.com
[18:09] <bazhang> coreymon77: same here--its awesome
[18:10] <coreymon77> mathias_: as i said, what options are we talking about here
[18:10] <mathias_> coreymon77:  some menyes dsnt show and it dosnt show new post  and pm
[18:11] <coreymon77> bazhang: what do you think, would user agent work?
[18:12] <coreymon77> personally, i boycott any site who hasnt gotten with the program by now
[18:12] <bazhang> coreymon77: that site above? yeah no worries :} just loaded it up fine
[18:13] <coreymon77> firefox is not an unkown unused browser anymore
[18:13] <ardchoille> mathias_: That site works quite well here in firefox 2.0.0.11 on Gutsy
[18:13] <coreymon77> you see
[18:13] <coreymon77> works fine
[18:13] <ardchoille> And I don't use any extensions
[18:13] <bazhang> mathias_: try the addon and see if you agree; I got it going without and with :}
[18:15] <bazhang> coreymon77: did you drop a 7 from your nick? :}
[18:15] <coreymon77> no
[18:15] <mathias_> well it loks ok .. b'ut when u are a member u have som menys  lik pm and stuff that dont work (Har to axplain with my crappy english)
[18:15] <coreymon77> its always been like this
[18:15] <bazhang> oh sorry I thought it was 777 in the past my bad coreymon77
[18:16] <tlayton> mathias_: coming in on the middle of this conversation, but you could try ies4linux http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[18:16] <bazhang> mathias_: have you tried the extension yet?
[18:16] <coreymon77> anyone want to try out making an account for the site?
[18:17] <bazhang> haha
[18:18] <coreymon77> well, i checked on bugmenot for an account and no luck, so oh well
[18:20] <ardchoille> mathias_: What is your native language? Perhaps someone in a loco channel can help you further with this?
[18:20] <judgen> what is the command to use compiz with kwin? kwin --replace &compiz?
[18:23] <coreymon77> oh well
[18:23] <coreymon77> the bell just rang
[18:23] <coreymon77> i have to get back to class
[18:23] <tlayton> judgen: install fusion-icon from the repos, then you can start compiz from the tray icon
[18:24] <coreymon77> bazhang: good luck with mathias_
[18:24] <judgen> tlayton, thanks
[18:24] <stmartin> hi! I want to ask you how to copy file through the terminal?
[18:24] <bazhang> coreymon77: have a good class!
[18:24] <jasmin_> fdoving: you there
[18:24] <judgen> tlayton,  no such package
[18:25] <jasmin_> stmartin: cp is to copy a file
[18:25] <tlayton> judgen: hmm, i'm in hardy. maybe it's just in the hardy repos. there's a ppa for it, but i don't have that link right now.
[18:27] <judgen> i have a tray icon for compiz. but that only lets me select metacity
[18:27] <bazhang> !info fusion-icon
[18:27] <mathias_> ardchoille:  swedish :)
[18:27] <ubotu> Package fusion-icon does not exist in gutsy
[18:28] <stmartin> ok thanks
[18:28] <mathias_> bazhang:  i dont know how to install :s
[18:29] <bazhang> mathias_: do you have the link?  go to it and click on install, then restart firefox
[18:29] <mathias_> bazhang: it says save as or open with
[18:29] <tlayton> judgen: do you have compiz-kde and/or emerald installed?
[18:30] <ardchoille> !swedish | mathias_
[18:30] <ubotu> mathias_: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[18:30] <judgen> only compiz-gnome.. i use gnome but i like kwin better
[18:30] <bazhang> mathias_: um dont download it (right click) just left click it
[18:30] <judgen> and i have emerald installed
[18:30] <mathias_> ubotu:  tnx
[18:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tnx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:30] <ardchoille> !thanks | mathias_
[18:30] <ubotu> mathias_: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[18:31] <mathias_> bazhang:  i do rightklick then i got those options
[18:31] <stmartin> what is the command to delete file?>
[18:31] <bazhang> judgen: if you want to search for a package, you can apt-cache search fusion and see what that brings up in the terminal
[18:31] <ardchoille> stmartin: rm
[18:31] <judgen> im going to try deleting metacity and emerald and see where that gets me
[18:31] <judgen> bazhang, i know
[18:31] <bazhang> mathias do not right click--left click
[18:32] <judgen> brb
[18:32] <hoens`rZ> how do i install nforce 630a geforce 7025 drivers on kubuntu?
[18:32] <mathias_> bazhang:  i know.. i do rigt klick
[18:32] <ardchoille> !nvidia | hoens`rZ
[18:32] <ubotu> hoens`rZ: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[18:32] <bazhang> mathias_: do not right click do not
[18:33] <mathias_> gahh sory .. i mean i dont ..
[18:33] <jasmin_> stmartin: rm is to delete
[18:33] <bazhang> mathias_: left click to install it then restart firefox end of story
[18:33] <jasmin_> stmartin: why dont you read the linux beginners guide
[18:34] <stmartin> where?
[18:34] <ardchoille> stmartin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[18:34] <stmartin> ok, thanks.
[18:34] <bazhang> stmartin: do you have a prominent search engine available? there are many links there :}
[18:35] <jasmin_> stmartin: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/basic-commands/C
[18:35] <mathias_> bazhang: i dont get the option install..
[18:37] <bazhang> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59 mathias_ go here and click on the green bar that says install now--this has to be in firefox and not ie by the way
[18:38] <marius__> hi to all
[18:38] <marius__> my amarok just crush
[18:38] <marius__> how can i fix it
[18:39] <mathias_> bazhang:  whn i do i get
[18:39] <mathias_> Open 'http://releases.mo...10-fx+mz+sm+fl.xpi'?
[18:39] <mathias_> Type: application/octet-stream
[18:39] <mathias_> save as   open with  cancel
[18:40] <bazhang> in internet explorer or firefox?
[18:41] <mathias_> omg .. wait
[18:41] <mathias_> bazhang:  im so stupis .. when i follo'wed the link i didnt open firefox :)
[18:42] <mathias_> bur konquereo
[18:42] <bazhang> mathias_: haha well try it now--it should work :}
[18:42] <mathias_> bazhang:  yes :) how do i set firefox as defaul browser
[18:43] <bazhang> mathias_: lets get this first problem sorted out okay?
[18:45] <Jeroi> mathias_ tou just open konversation: then form there usegustom browser %firefox
[18:46] <bazhang> mathias_: I have to run now; that should get you going for now--good luck!
[18:46] <ibilic> hi, when I do dpkg --configure -a, I get:
[18:46] <Jeroi> I mean open konversation settings
[18:46] <ibilic> Cao Beko,
[18:46] <ibilic> Kao sto si procitala iz poruke dole, dolazi mi drug iz Montreala,
[18:46] <ibilic> ostaje 5 meseci, hoce da nauci srpski pa me je pitao da li znam neke
[18:46] <ibilic> ljude iz Beograda da ga upoznam. Pa ako hoces upoznaj ga i pozovi
[18:46] <ibilic> nekad kad izlazis negde, znam da si radila sa strancima ranije i da si
[18:46] <ibilic> voljna da se druzis. Ako ne, nema veze, zaboravi, nema ljutis :)
[18:46] <ibilic> Ajde pozdrav i pisi sta ima novo,
[18:46] <ibilic> Ivan
[18:46] <ibilic> sorry
[18:46] <ibilic> invoke-rc.d: initscript vmware-server, action "start" failed.
[18:46] <ibilic> dpkg: error processing vmware-server (--configure):
[18:46] <ibilic>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[18:46] <ibilic> Errors were encountered while processing:
[18:46] <ibilic>  vmware-server
[18:47] <jpatrick> !pl | ibilic
[18:47] <ubotu> ibilic: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[18:47] <jpatrick> !paste | ibilic
[18:47] <ubotu> ibilic: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[18:47] <ibilic> how do I fix that? every time I try to run Adept, it crashes
[18:47] <Jeroi> also you can make default browser for KDE going to system settings, from there default aplications
[18:47] <Riddell> ** candidate CD testers needed http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all cdimages.ubuntu.com
[18:48] <snatch> moin
[18:48] <ardchoille> Riddell: Thanks :)
[18:48] <bazhang> nice!
[18:48] <jpatrick> !adeptfix > ibilic
[18:55] <tlayton> !lancelot
[18:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lancelot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:56] <tlayton> !plasma
[18:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plasma - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:57] <progreSSive> hi everybody
[18:57] <progreSSive> i have this problem with my video-card
[18:57] <progreSSive> when i turn the computer on
[18:57] <progreSSive> and kubuntu is loading
[18:57] <progreSSive> it just stops
[18:57] <progreSSive> and is not responding to anything
[18:58] <progreSSive> but windows is loading okay
[18:58] <ardchoille> !enter | progreSSive
[18:58] <ubotu> progreSSive: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[18:58] <progreSSive> what can it be? :)
[19:00] <progreSSive> so any suggestions on my problem??
[19:01] <progreSSive> damn, 343 nicks, and everybody's dead
[19:02] <tlayton> progreSSive: before or after logging in?
[19:02] <progreSSive> during load
[19:03] <progreSSive> before logging in, after the grub is out, and i chose kubuntu, and it loads about 15% and that's it
[19:03] <tlayton> progreSSive: this happens to me every 22 reboots. fsck runs, but there is no indicator letting you know except the blank screen.
[19:04] <progreSSive> no it happened to me after i added this new video-card
[19:04] <tlayton> progreSSive: and, at least for me, fsck can take up to twenty minutes. try logging in recovery mode to see what it's telling you
[19:04] <progreSSive> and i rebooted several times, but when i take it off, it loads ok
[19:05] <progreSSive> tlayton, i'm sorry, but what is fsck? :)
[19:06] <ardchoille> progreSSive: fsck - check and repair a Linux file system
[19:06] <progreSSive> ardchoille, and how do i run it?
[19:06] <progreSSive> ardchoille, because i cannot get my computer on with the video-card in
[19:07] <ardchoille> progreSSive: man fsck  I don't use it often enough to assist, so I can only point to the man page)
[19:08] <progreSSive> ardchoille, thanks anyways :) but i only see the grub page, and while loading, the computer stops responding, and i'm not able to run any commands or even use the keyboard
[19:08] <tlayton> progreSSive: try the recovery mode in grub
[19:09] <progreSSive> tlayton, ok, i'll try to reboot now :) thanks man! appreciate! be back in like 10-15 minutes, and hope with good news :)
[19:15] <acc-akut> hi, if the next kubuntu is with kde 4 and NOT lts, when will come the next kubuntu lts? thx4hp
[19:15] <ibilic> can someone please have a look at this?
[19:15] <ibilic> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51381/
[19:16] <vbgunz_> anybody know why my internet connection could fail randomly? I mean, "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" brings it back up quickly **but** why does it just stop working?
[19:19] <afikart> hi everybody, I have a question for you, someone can help me ?
[19:26] <nils_> hmm I can't get the system to install the ati drivers for X11, when I click "Administrator Mode" in the Restricted Drivers section, it doesn't do anything just revert back to the non-admin mode...
[19:26] <nils_> can I install the drivers manually or via apt?
[19:29] <ForgeAus> you install them by adept nils
[19:29] <ForgeAus> !ati
[19:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:29] <nicobrain> servus#
[19:30] <nicobrain> spricht man hier deutsch oder englisch, anybody speak german?
[19:30] <nils_> ForgeAus: yeah it's just that the suggested way doesn't work
[19:30] <jpatrick> !de | nicobrain
[19:30] <ubotu> nicobrain: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[19:30] <nicobrain> danke, schönen abend noch.
[19:32] <Greenery> nils_: when u switch to admin mode for the restrivted driver, did it ask for pass?
[19:32] <nils_> Greenery: no it doesn't, that's the problem.
[19:36] <nils_> ah ok after installing them manually via apt-get I can select the driver in restricted-manager
[19:39] <snarkster> does ubuntu suppot any webcams outta the box, or do i have to compile the drivers?
[19:39] <Pici> !webcam | snarkster
[19:39] <ubotu> snarkster: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[19:39] <snarkster> duh shoulda checked that first
[19:40] <snarkster> thanx
[19:49] <snarkster> ok so im on the webcam page, I did lsusb and my webcam is a Logitech Quickcam Pro usb id 046d:d001 that is not listed on the page.. any other clues?
[19:49] <snarkster> its an ancient camera
[19:52] <ibilic> what's the difference between purging a package and removing a package?
[19:54] <tlayton> ibilic: purging removes any leftover config files
[19:55] <trappist> ibilic: purging also removes "configuration" files, which includes things like init scripts
[19:55] <noaXess> !lamp
[19:55] <nils_> hmm is there a special kernel for SMP or is it enabled by default?
[19:55] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[19:55] <trappist> basically anything flagged by the package as a config file
[19:55] <trappist> nils_: SMPness is now determined at boot time
[19:55] <ibilic> I have a problem with vmware-server... should I purge it and install it again? or is that useless?
[19:55] <trappist> so you don't need a special SMP kernel
[19:55] <trappist> ibilic: depends on the problem
[19:55] <nils_> trappist: currently only shows me one cpu in /proc/cpuinfo
[19:56] <ibilic> trappist:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51381/
[19:56] <trappist> nils_: last time I had that problem I eventually learned one of my CPU slots was a dummy slot :/
[19:56] <nils_> trappist: hehe. It's dualcore
[19:56] <nils_> trappist: hopefully there is no dummy core ;)
[19:57] <trappist> ibilic: looks like maybe you need to run vmware-config.pl
[19:57] <trappist> ibilic: which requires packages like build-essential and linux-headers
[19:57] <trappist> ibilic: at least, that's what I'd say if you'd installed vmware from the tarball.  I've never used the package myself.
[19:59] <Jeroi> hello
[19:59] <ibilic> I have both build-essential and linux-headers... now how do I run vmware-config.pl?
[19:59] <Jeroi> why konversation dont allow dcc send from user?
[19:59] <Francois-Xavier> hello
[19:59] <Jeroi> It says "connection refused"
[19:59] <trappist> ibilic: again, I'm speaking from tarball experience, but "sudo vmware-config.pl"
[19:59] <Francois-Xavier> bjr
[19:59] <Jeroi> I have active network, so no passive method
[20:00] <Francois-Xavier> in french
[20:00] <trappist> Jeroi: one or the other of you is probably going through a firewall
[20:00] <trappist> !fr
[20:00] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[20:00] <Francois-Xavier> merci
[20:00] <Jeroi> well passive can connet to active user
[20:00] <Jeroi> I have autoaccept
[20:00] <stmartin> why in Applications--->System Tools---->NTFS Configuration Tool, it gives me to enable read/write for all drives?
[20:01] <trappist> stmartin: why not?
[20:02] <trappist> stmartin: ntfs was read-only in linux for a long time.  there are some caveats with enabling read-write, but it's available, so it's optional.
[20:02] <stmartin> i want to choose only sda1
[20:02] <stmartin> not all
[20:02] <ibilic> trappist: it doesn't work... I'll just purge it
[20:02] <robot_jesus> trappist as in trappist monk ?
[20:02] <trappist> stmartin: do you have other ntfs partitions?
[20:02] <trappist> robot_jesus: yeah, like that
[20:02] <stmartin> yes
[20:02] <trappist> robot_jesus: not a monk though, just a beer fan
[20:02] <stmartin> 2 partitions
[20:02] <stmartin> sda1 and sda5
[20:02] <trappist> stmartin: might need to handle that manually via /etc/fstab
[20:03] <stmartin> what to do in there?
[20:03] <trappist> stmartin: or there might be somewhere else to do one at a time, I dunno, I don't have any ntfs partitions
[20:03] <Greenery> remove the partition that u dont wantto read/write
[20:03] <robot_jesus> trappist: me too :)
[20:03] <stmartin> Greenery: how?
[20:03] <trappist> stmartin: you could enable it on all, see what it does in fstab, then disable all and duplicate the change for the one you want
[20:03] <robot_jesus> trappist: have you tried leffe ?
[20:04] <robot_jesus> whats your favorite trappist beer :)
[20:04] <trappist> robot_jesus: it's not a trappist ale, and this is offtopic, but yes :)
[20:04] <stmartin> instead of ntfs-3g, what to write?
[20:04] <nils_> [    0.000000] WARNING: NR_CPUS limit of 1 reached.  Processor ignored.
[20:04] <nils_> and there it is
[20:04] <trappist> robot_jesus: #kubuntu-offtopic
[20:04] <Greenery> on terminal type this: kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[20:05] <Greenery> then remove the partiton that u dont want to read/write
[20:05] <Greenery> but make a backup first
[20:05] <trappist> nils_: woah
[20:05] <nils_> whoever compiled that was on drugs.
[20:05] <stmartin> I opened fstab file
[20:06] <snarkster> what is the package name for build-essentials?
[20:07] <terran4000> Cheers!
[20:07] <trappist> snarkster: build-essential
[20:07] <snarkster> !build-essentials
[20:07] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[20:07] <trappist> nils_: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[20:07] <nils_> trappist: 7.10
[20:08] <trappist> nils_: I only have dual core, and my /proc/cpuinfo shows both cores... you're not running a weird kernel, are you?
[20:08] <nils_> trappist: obviously I do, but that one was installed by default
[20:09] <trappist> nils_: I have no guesses for you.  I'm running the default gutsy kernel too, and I have two entries in my cpuinfo.
[20:09] <nils_> hmm there is an -386 kernel and a generic kernel, generic uses both cores
[20:09] <trappist> ah
[20:09] <trappist> I'm running -generic
[20:09] <trappist> guess that explains it
[20:10] <rjb> hi 1 q'n: dcop ksmserver ksmserver logout 0 2 2
[20:11] <nils_> yeah
[20:11] <rjb> allows me to shutdown my kde session and halt the machine from a script, right?
[20:11] <nils_> now cpufreq doesn't work, strange
[20:11] <trappist> rjb: not willing to try it myself, but maybe.  why?
[20:11] <rjb>  is there a way to hibernate instead of halting? kde 3.5.8 on kubuntu gutsy
[20:12] <ith> test
[20:12] <trappist> rjb: run kdcop and see what's available
[20:12] <nils_> This processor "AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dual Core Processor BE-2300" is known _not_ to support power-saving.
[20:12] <nils_> hehe
[20:12] <nils_> only needs 45W anyways
[20:12] <rjb> trappist: what do you mean by why?
[20:12] <rjb> trappist: kdcop won't tell me that
[20:13] <trappist> rjb: ah I see, you're right...
[20:14] <Shapeshifter> Hi. I got s2ram working with s2ram -f -p -m but now I don't get what I need to do so that s2ram runs with those options, too, when I close the lid. Also, there aren't any suspend / hibernate buttons in the logout dialog. How can I set these things up?
[20:14] <rjb> the point is to be able to schedule a shutdown by 'at', for instance
[20:15] <rjb> or by kalarm, if one prefers
[20:16] <rjb> or if you want to leave a long job running but have the machine go to sleep once it's complete
[20:16] <trappist> rjb: looks like hibernate isn't an options
[20:16] <trappist> *option
[20:17] <stmartin> Greenery thanks. It helped.
[20:17] <trappist> rjb: http://developer.kde.org/documentation/library/3.4-api/kdecore/html/classKApplication.html#w35
[20:17] <rjb> whatever, you can invent other use cases
[20:17] <Greenery> ^^
[20:17] <thebox> hello
[20:17] <rjb> trappist: http://api.kde.org/3.5-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdecore/html/kapplication_8h-source.html
[20:17] <stmartin> Greenery, but why it doesn't give me option to choose in NTFS COnfiguration tool?
[20:17] <rjb> is more up to date
[20:18] <rjb> but i know about that
[20:18] <stmartin> I have ubuntu 6.06 LST Dapper :)
[20:18] <Greenery> stmartin: that i'm not sure, i use the manual configuration only cos auto configuration doesnt work for me
[20:18] <trappist> rjb: so, looks like the options are limited there
[20:18] <rjb> the question is, might there be some other way to achieve this
[20:18] <rjb> other than calling out to ksmserver from dcop
[20:18] <trappist> I'm sure there is, maybe through apic?
[20:19] <Greenery> stmartin: just in case u want to read/write the other ntfs partition that u've recently removed, remember the line
[20:19] <thebox> my konquer uninstalled itself and adept is not allowing me to download packagers what do i do?
[20:19] <stmartin> Greenery: what happens when u open NTFS Configuration tool?
[20:19] <trappist> rjb: maybe /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh
[20:19] <stmartin> it gives u 2 options?
[20:20] <rjb> trappist: hmm maybe
[20:20] <Greenery> stmartin: NTFS configuration tool won't open, so i have to use manually
[20:20] <stmartin> I understand.
[20:20] <Greenery> stmartin: so i have no idea how NTFS configuration tool looks like
[20:21] <stmartin> have u ever tried to install it?
[20:22] <rjb> but is that what the power manager kicker applet is using?
[20:22] <Greenery> stmartin: recently, no since the manual version works well enough for me
[20:22] <MGalaxy> whyis the firefox statusbar so ugly in kubuntu? how can I change it appearance?
[20:23] <rjb> trappist: hibernate.sh calls /sbin/s2disk, but there is no such file on my system
[20:23] <Greenery> MGalaxy: u could download other skins/themes for ur firefox if ur not satisfied wiotht he default one
[20:23] <Greenery> *with
[20:23] <thebox> konquer is not working... can someone download smart boot manager and send it to me so i can reinstall kubuntu
[20:24] <trappist> rjb: sudo apt-get install uswsusp
[20:24] <rjb> hey i think i got it. it seems the power manager also exposes a dcop interface
[20:25] <MGalaxy> Greenery: changing the theme doesnt work, in all themes the statusbar is the same
[20:25] <trappist> rjb: nice
[20:25] <Greenery> MGalaxy: hmm it shouldn't be
[20:26] <Greenery> MGalaxy: maybe u got extension that uses the statusbar location and has conflicts with the theme
[20:28] <MGalaxy> Greenery: let me check, besides, Restart firefox does not work, it only closes FF, any solution?
[20:28] <rjb> "dcop $(dcop|grep ^power-manager) power-manager hibernate" is my guess
[20:28] <Greenery> MGalaxy: sorry, have no idea about that
[20:31] <thebox> hello
[20:31] <jasmin_> hello
[20:31] <SudoKing> hello, is there an opposite of mkpasswd
[20:32] <thebox> my konquer isnt working i need help please
[20:32] <jasmin_> more details
[20:32] <rjb> SudoKing: haha you wish
[20:32] <SudoKing> =o
[20:32] <thebox> it just uninstalled itself
[20:32] <jpatrick> thebox: how?
[20:32] <rjb> john the ripper does a decent job sometimes
[20:32] <jasmin_> strange
[20:32] <thebox> and adept manager seems to have broken also
[20:32] <SudoKing> guess that takes the meaning out of encrytion?
[20:33] <rjb> also google for rainbow tables
[20:33] <thebox> it all started whe i tried to install kde 4 and it went all down hill
[20:33] <jasmin_> thebox: well you should not install rc on your working system ever
[20:34] <thebox> i know that know ;(
[20:34] <thebox> *now
[20:34] <jpatrick> thebox: you tried to install Hardy?
[20:35] <thebox> my os is to old.. i need a floppy boot manager program
[20:35] <thebox> *bios
[20:35] <tlayton> anyone get firefox to print the headers and footers?  this has been around forever for me and haven't been able to find a solution
[20:38] <thebox> well can someone help
[20:38] <thebox> please
[20:38] <noaXess> does anybody know, why tasksel hangs after installation?
[20:39] <noaXess> thebox: whats the problem
[20:39] <thebox> i need smart boot manager sent to me because i cant install my cd with isolinux cd
[20:39] <thebox> thats what the help file says on th ecd
[20:40] <jasmin_> i have a ppp0 connected to the internet i want this connection to be shared via eth1(my wifi as a adhoc )
[20:40] <noaXess> thebox: whats about the commands sudo apt-get update
[20:40] <noaXess> sudo apt-get upgrade?
[20:40] <thebox> wow
[20:41] <thebox> how does sudo work
[20:41] <thebox> adept is broken
[20:41] <thebox> ;(
[20:41] <snarkster> this is a dumb question.. (no such thing) I just checked out the svn trunck for UVC kernel driver.. where did it put the files?
[20:41] <noaXess> thebox: to into the konsole and type above command.. and give your own password
[20:41] <noaXess> !tell thebox sudo
[20:42] <sky_> salutations
[20:42] <noaXess> !sudo
[20:42] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[20:42] <noaXess> sky_: hi there
[20:42] <thebox> i cant used konquer it is broken
[20:43] <thebox> i cant install programs because adept is broken
[20:43] <Greenery> thebox: u dont have konsole?
[20:43] <thebox> i do
[20:43] <noaXess> the start it
[20:43] <thebox> started
[20:43] <noaXess> kmenu / run command... / and type "konsole"
[20:43] <Greenery> open konsole and type sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:44] <thebox> okay
[20:44] <noaXess> Greenery: yeah :)
[20:44] <noaXess> Greenery: have you ever used tasksel?
[20:44] <Greenery> noaXess: nope i dont
[20:45] <sky_> I have just installed kubuntu.
[20:45] <thebox> okay i did that
[20:45] <sky_> kopete keeps just going down
[20:45] <thebox> how do i install konquer ... in adept is stays the install is broken
[20:45] <snarkster> hmm my kopete is fine.. im talking in it right now
[20:45] <sky_> when i try to connect to msn via kopete, it crashes
[20:45] <noaXess> thebox: now any error?
[20:45] <Greenery> thebox: try update instead of upgrade
[20:46] <snarkster> did you change the server settings?
[20:46] <thebox> okay
[20:46] <noaXess> thebox: now try the command: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:46] <noaXess> yeah, first update, then upgrade if ther are packages that can be updated.. and last.. dist-upgrade
[20:47] <noaXess> sky_: kopete went's down.. what you mean with that?
[20:47] <sky_> crash
[20:47] <sky_> i keep getting kde crash manager
[20:48] <Greenery> have u updated recently?
[20:48] <sky_> no, just installed
[20:48] <Greenery> update ur kubuntu first
[20:48] <sky_> ok, have you got a hint of how i cant do that ?
[20:48] <thebox> okay
[20:49] <thebox> i updated and upgraded
[20:49] <Greenery> sky_: goto konsole, type sudo apt-get update
[20:49] <thebox> how do i get konquer to run now
[20:49] <thebox> or install konquer from sudo
[20:49] <thebox> ?
[20:49] <sky_> Thx greenery : nothing to do according to the konsole
[20:50] <noaXess> thebox: right... sudo apt-get install packagename
[20:50] <Greenery> sky_: kopete still crash?
[20:51] <thebox> how do you spell konquer is that correct
[20:51] <wftl> KDE4 RC2 packages still using .kde4?
[20:51] <sky_> Greenery : i found a upgrade thing in the package manager
[20:51] <sky_> it seams to be working away, ill see after that :)
[20:52] <wftl> And is there somebody keeping bleeding edge debs out there somewhere so that you are effectively running svn code for KKE4 on Kubuntu (Gutsy)?
[20:52] <noaXess> thebox: konqueror
[20:52] <sky_> weel, after all no ... it say i have no upgrades to do
[20:52] <sky_> :)
[20:52] <snarkster> what like 3 days till kde4 is unvield
[20:53] <sky_> ill reboot once to see if things get better
[20:53] <sky_> cya perhaps, and thank whatever
[20:53] <snarkster> this isnt windows
[20:57] <MGalaxy> how can I change only the backColor of pop-up menus in kubuntu 7.10?
[20:57] <noaXess> how can i set the runlevel default to 3?
[20:57] <noaXess> MGalaxy: try in system settings the apperance thing..
[20:58] <MGalaxy> noaxess: I didnt find it, could u plz tell me where exactly?
[21:00] <snarkster> !run levels
[21:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about run levels - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:00] <noaXess> MGalaxy: you need to search trough... or look, read in kde-look.org.. there are diffrent theme manager and funny themes :)
[21:00] <noaXess> snarkster: that i have tried earlier
[21:01] <snarkster> i had the glmatrix as my background.. though it was cool looking i lost all my desktop icons
[21:01] <snarkster> been wondering what the 6 run levels meant in unbuntu..
[21:01] <dirk_> can anybody explain me how i must install licq
[21:02] <ScorpKing> MGalaxy: it's in the Color Settings in kcontrol
[21:02] <noaXess> snarkster: on other linux there is the file /etc/inittab to configure the default runlevel..
[21:02] <kenster> !runlevel
[21:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:02] <noaXess> dirk_: thry apt-get, the adept_manager or add/remove programms
[21:02] <snarkster> right i understand that.. i meant is single user 3 and multiuserx 5
[21:02] <noaXess> kenster: ubotu don't now anything about runlevel or inittab
[21:02] <MGalaxy> ScorpKing: it changes windows backColor, I want to change only pop-up menus only
[21:03] <ardchoille> snarkster: Run levels: http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/?show=m58e5dd85
[21:03] <snarkster> thank you
[21:03] <kenster> snarkster: 0 is halt 1 is recovery, only root, 2 is rocovery + network 4 is custom 6 ir reboot
[21:03] <ScorpKing> MGalaxy: ok. let me look
[21:03] <noaXess> ardchoille: now.. we now what they are... but how to set the default runlevel to 3
[21:03] <noaXess> ?
[21:03] <thebox> i get errors when i try to install konqueror
[21:04] <sky_> Hello again
[21:04] <noaXess> thebox: what is the error of you start adept_manager?
[21:04] <Daisuke_Ido> thebox: you're using kde, you already have konqueror
[21:04] <sky_> i cant connect to msn or gtalk with kopete : just crash each time
[21:04] <thebox> i need to try a diffrent route...how do i burn a floppy image to that has a boot manager on it
[21:04] <thebox> how do i do that
[21:05] <snarkster> thank you very much that comes in handy
[21:05] <thebox> i wanted to try kde 4 and i ruined my system
[21:05] <thebox> im supprised konquer still works
[21:05] <thebox> *konversation
[21:06] <noaXess> thebox: use virtualbox for testing.. good thing ;) virtualbox.org.. there are repos for 7.10
[21:06] <nosrednaekim> !autostart
[21:06] <thebox> yeah but it is to late now
[21:06] <ScorpKing> MGalaxy: i see what you mean. heh
[21:06] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[21:06] <DreadKnight> join #kde4-release-party
[21:06] <DreadKnight> ^^
[21:06] <thebox> i just want to reinstall kubuntu now
[21:06] <nosrednaekim> !init
[21:06] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[21:07] <MGalaxy> ScorpKing: and the result? :D
[21:07] <thebox> i cant surf the web
[21:07] <sky_> i just got a fresh install of kubuntu, and does not even work witout crashing each time i try to connect to messenger
[21:07] <thebox> thats why im here asking for help desparatly
[21:07] <ScorpKing> MGalaxy: busy looking on google. ;)
[21:09] <Greenery> sky_: u sure ur current kubuntu is up to date?
[21:09] <DreadKnight> join #kde4-release-party  ^^
[21:10] <Greenery> sky_: its used to be an issue where kopete crashed when trying to connect to msn
[21:10] <noaXess> nosrednaekim: but i can't find any hint to set runlevel to 3
[21:10] <thebox> how do i take a floppy image and put it on a floppy in kubuntu
[21:10] <Doctor_Subtilis> what's the kde version of gconf-editor?
[21:10] <moparisthebest> I can't get knetworkmanager to display any interfaces at all, wired or wireless
[21:10] <ScorpKing> !grub | thebox
[21:10] <ubotu> thebox: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:10] <moparisthebest> I am connected to the network now with Wireless Assistant
[21:11] <sky_> Greenery : well, when i type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:11] <sky_> it say : all ok
[21:11] <moparisthebest> and both interfaces show up in the control module
[21:11] <moparisthebest> any ideas?
[21:11] <thebox> ubotu i dont have website access
[21:11] <ScorpKing> heh. sorry thebox, i forgot ;)
[21:12] <Doctor_Subtilis> what is the kde version of gconf-editor?
[21:12] <Doctor_Subtilis> im trying to configure Brightside - Screen Corners
[21:12] <noaXess> thebox: first.. ubotu is a bot.. and if you haven't internet acces how can you be here?
[21:12] <thebox> scorpking:  thats okay...but i would still appreciate the help
[21:12] <noaXess> thebox: sudo apt-get firefox
[21:12] <noaXess> thebox: sudo apt-get install firefox
[21:12] <thebox> because irc and konqueror used diffrent protocols
[21:13] <thebox> i have internet not website access
[21:13] <robot_jesus> ~offtopic
[21:13] <noaXess> thebox: install firefox
[21:13] <ScorpKing> thebox: knetworkmanager is usually the problem.
[21:13] <thebox> no i installed kde4rc and it messed up some dependencys
[21:13] <thebox> or someting
[21:14] <ScorpKing> thebox: firefox will give you web access. you can also configure eth0 manually. if you use any for of dailup it won't work if eth0 is down
[21:14] <ScorpKing> form*
[21:14] <thebox> it says package is not availble
[21:15] <thebox> ?
[21:15] <thebox> what file is the upgrade server list located
[21:15] <noaXess> !inittab
[21:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inittab - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:15] <kenster> thebox: you need to add repos in adept
[21:15] <Doctor_Subtilis> could someone tell me the kde version of gconf-editor?
[21:16] <ScorpKing> thebox: see if you can get the txt file i'm sending you
[21:16] <kenster> Doctor_Subtilis: there isn;t one, what do you want to change
[21:16] <sky_> Greenery : im new to linux, how to get the version ?
[21:16] <nosrednaekim> sky_: "lsb_release -a"
[21:16] <noaXess> sky_: uname -a
[21:16] <Doctor_Subtilis> kenster: i want to configure brightside (the screen corners app)
[21:16] <sky_> thanx
[21:17] <kenster> Doctor_Subtilis: I know nothing of it, sorry
[21:17] <sky_> 7.10
[21:17] <sky_> gutsy
[21:17] <thebox> negative
[21:17] <ScorpKing> thebox: can i pm you?
[21:18] <DreadKnight> join #kde4-release-party  ^^
[21:18] <thebox> yeah go ahead
[21:18] <ardchoille> DreadKnight: Please stop advertising
[21:19] <DreadKnight> advertising? xD
[21:19] <DreadKnight> mrrr
[21:19] <DreadKnight> ok.
[21:19] <thebox> i need to register
[21:19] <thebox> it wont let me send pms
[21:19] <thebox> lol
[21:19] <ardchoille> !register | thebox
[21:19] <ubotu> thebox: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[21:19] <thebox> how do i register
[21:20] <sky_> I tryd to get firefox installed, doing sudo apt-get install firefox, but it says : firefox is in the db, but the paquet is missing or obsolete
[21:20] <thebox> thats what mine says
[21:20] <sky_> what is a source ?
[21:20] <thebox> did you install kde4
[21:20] <ScorpKing> thebox: /msg nickserv REGISTER <password>
[21:21] <sky_> (i translate from fr so perhaps no quite correct)
[21:21] <flithm> hey all I'm just curious what'll happen when kde4 is released... will we have official debs to install?
[21:21] <tron71> anyone installed kubuntu on a dell latitude d630?
[21:21] <nosrednaekim> !laptop
[21:21] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[21:22] <Greenery> sky_: what version of kdelibs ur using?
[21:22] <sky_> Greenery : it say : 7.10 / gutsy
[21:23] <stmartin> can somebody help me? I receive this message: W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[21:23] <Doctor_Subtilis> i could've sworn there was already a screen corner actions menu before i installed brightside, does anyone know where it is?
[21:23] <tron71> well actually I've already installed it without problems, but I'm experiencing some problems with the touchpad and so I was asking if anyone succeded in it
[21:23] <ardchoille> stmartin: You need to add the medibuntu repo key
[21:23] <stmartin> I tried to install skyppe
[21:23] <stmartin> but something get wrong
[21:23] <stmartin> how to do it?
[21:24] <Flare183> !skype | stmartin
[21:24] <ubotu> stmartin: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[21:24] <stmartin> I tried with the first link, and it sucked
[21:24] <ardchoille> !medibuntu | stmartin there are instructions for adding the proper key
[21:24] <ubotu> stmartin there are instructions for adding the proper key: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[21:25] <ScorpKing> MGalaxy: i don't see anything on google. try asking in #kde
[21:25] <noaXess> !update-rc.d
[21:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about update-rc.d - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:25] <MGalaxy> ScorpKing: thx anyway
[21:25] <Hammer89> Anyone know why my computer is feeding sound through both the headphones and built in speakers (laptop) at the same time?
[21:26] <Hammer89> or... rather... how to fix that :P
[21:26] <ScorpKing> MGalaxy: no problem
[21:26] <noaXess> where is the file /etc/inittab ??? is there another?
[21:27] <FrauHansen> hello@all
[21:27] <SkyUbu> hello
[21:27] <wesley> how can i get video previews in kubuntu
[21:28] <emilsedgh> wesley: i think you should install kdemultimeia-kfile-plugins or something like that
[21:28] <noaXess> wesley: install vlc
[21:28] <nosrednaekim> Hammer89: there is probably a channel to muste in kmix
[21:29] <nosrednaekim> *mute
[21:29] <Hammer89>  nosrednaekim: heh... I'm actually using Ubuntu... but the #Ubuntu channel is always crammed
[21:29] <nosrednaekim> Hammer89: well then there is probably one in the gnome mixer ;)
[21:29] <ardchoille> Hammer89: Well, #ubuntu is where you should be for ubuntu support, not here.
[21:30] <foibes> hi there, im going to be reinstalling kubuntu
[21:30] <Hammer89> ardchoille: Aye... though sometimes Kubuntu and Ubuntu are similar enough
[21:30] <foibes> i heard you can save config files?\
[21:30] <foibes> and so save yourself some trouble on a reinstall of resetting everything up?
[21:30] <nosrednaekim> foibes: yes, back up your whole home dir
[21:30] <foibes> nosrednaekim, i see
[21:30] <ardchoille> foibes: backup your $HOME (ie, /home/<username>
[21:31] <Hammer89> nosrednaekim: Yeah... I opened alsomixer in terminal... it shows the headphones... but doesn't give any volume options
[21:31] <Hammer89> *alsamixer
[21:31] <foibes> i thought all config files were saved to /usr/
[21:31] <nosrednaekim> Hammer89: it might not be that channel, try them all
[21:32] <Sylvain_TPE> foibes: no, general config files are ine /etc and personnal are in /home/user/
[21:32] <foibes> Sylvain_TPE, thanks
[21:32] <wesley> tha pack did i had already so how to activate video previews in kubuntu
[21:33] <Hammer89> nosrednaekim: tried them all... none worked
[21:33] <nosrednaekim> Hammer89: hmm
[21:35] <FrauHansen> damn. that was wierd. my computer (hdd i guess) was making strange noises and a reboot kicked me an a busybox with some initframs
[21:35] <FrauHansen> 2. reboot worked normal though
[21:35] <ardchoille> !sound | Hammer89
[21:35] <ubotu> Hammer89: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[21:36] <FrauHansen> anyway, may question was: when i change my mac-adress via ifconfig hw ether ... the network stops working
[21:37] <FrauHansen> do i have to do "ifconfig eth0 down" before and up afterwards to dodge the reboot?
[21:37] <mrskateboy629> does anyone know how to help me get my computers resolution to go higher
[21:39] <mrskateboy629> does anyone know how to help me get my computers resolution to go higher?
[21:40] <ardchoille> !fixres | mrskateboy629
[21:40] <ubotu> mrskateboy629: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[21:41] <mrskateboy629> thank you
[21:43] <mrskateboy629> i dont that helped because nothing happened
[21:44] <ardchoille> mrskateboy629: Did you read the webpage?
[21:44] <mrskateboy629> i dont really understand it
[21:45] <mrskateboy629> i couldnt find my problem
[21:45] <Ashex> has anyone gotten the .deb of virtualbox 1.5.4 to install and actually run?
[21:45] <mrskateboy629> my resolution is at 640x480 and i need it 1024x768
[21:47] <wpk> mrskateboy629: what type of graphic card do you have?
[21:47] <arriesp> hi
[21:47] <mrskateboy629> nvidia 8500 gt
[21:48] <nosrednaekim> !nvidia
[21:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:49] <marco> binary is evil ;P
[21:50] <marco> anyone able to install KDE4 in hardy? there are dependencies and broken packages, seems to me
[21:50] <ardchoille> marco: support for hardy is in #ubuntu+1
[21:51] <marco> ubuntu=gnome, no?
[21:51] <ludan> hello
[21:51] <marco> anyway, sure you are right, thanks for the tip
[21:51] <marco> hi ludan :)
[21:51] <ludan> guys can you paste me an source.list?
[21:51] <ardchoille> marco: That is the channel for development releases
[21:52] <ardchoille> ludan: For which release?
[21:52] <ludan> gutsy
[21:52] <ardchoille> !source-o-matic | ludan
[21:52] <ubotu> ludan: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[21:52] <ludan> i want to install mplayer and other stuff but i've problem with dependencies
[21:52] <Ashex> hmm
[21:52] <Ashex> I'm having issues compiling virtualbox, I keep getting this error when running make
[21:52] <Ashex> Makefile:76: *** Error: /usr/src/linux (version 2.6.22.9) does not match the current kernel (version 2.6.22-14-generic).  Stop.
[21:53] <ludan> ardchoille: shall I include backports stuff for mplayer?
[21:54] <hsn_> !nvidia
[21:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:54] <stick_> heloo kubuntu fans
[21:54] <stick_> :D
[21:54] <ardchoille> ludan: That would be up to you, I don't use backports and mplayer works fine here
[21:54] <ludan> what do you have?
[21:55] <ardchoille> ludan: http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/?show=f319c12d
[21:55] <mrskateboy629> okay it says i already have the right drivers selecred
[21:55] <mrskateboy629> seleced
[22:00] <stick_> aaa can i ask pls for a undernet server plss ?
[22:01] <ludan> ardchoille: how's  firefox named in firefox?
[22:01] <ardchoille> !info firefox
[22:01] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.11+2nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10 (gutsy), package size 8969 kB, installed size 26024 kB
[22:01] <ardchoille> ludan: Yep :)
[22:01] <ludan> aptitude install firefox?
[22:01] <flipmode> Ihave kubuntu7.10 cant get cds or dvds to read?
[22:02] <ardchoille> ludan: sudo aptitude install firefox
[22:02] <ardchoille> !sudo | ludan
[22:02] <ubotu> ludan: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[22:02] <hsn_> !3d desktop
[22:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3d desktop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:02] <nosrednaekim> flipmode: data dvds?
[22:02] <nosrednaekim> !compiz
[22:02] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[22:02] <ardchoille> !dvd | flipmode
[22:02] <ubotu> flipmode: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[22:02] <ardchoille> hsn_: Are you on Gutsy?
[22:03] <flipmode> noserednaekin: any cd or dvd nothing happens when i put one in
[22:04] <flipmode> noserednaekim: any cd or dvd nothing happens when i put one in
[22:05] <nosrednaekim> !tab
[22:05] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[22:05] <hsn_> ardchoille: yes
[22:06] <nosrednaekim> flipmode: after popping one in, see what "dmesg" says (only about the last 10 lines should be relevant)
[22:06] <ardchoille> hsn_: 3ddesktop is not in the repos for Gutsy
[22:06] <ludan> how to install w32codes?
[22:06] <ludan> w32codecs?
[22:06] <hsn_> ardchoille: i cant get even nvidia driver working
[22:07] <flipmode> noserednaekim:should i pastebin it?
[22:07] <ardchoille> hsn_: Did you follow the !nvidia page?
[22:07] <nosrednaekim> flipmode: sure
[22:07] <flipmode> i really dont know how to use the pastebin
[22:08] <ardchoille> !w32codecs | ludan
[22:08] <ubotu> ludan: The Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu »), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[22:08] <flipmode> rror }
[22:08] <flipmode> [   69.213648] hdd: cdrom_decode_status: error=0x40 { LastFailedSense=0x04 }
[22:08] <flipmode> [   69.213654] ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[22:08] <flipmode> [   76.040526] hdd: cdrom_decode_status: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
[22:08] <flipmode> [   76.040549] hdd: cdrom_decode_status: error=0x40 { LastFailedSense=0x04 }
[22:09] <flipmode> [   76.040555] ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[22:09] <mrskateboy629> is there anyone available to solely help me fix my resolution
[22:09] <flipmode> [   80.392264] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[22:09] <flipmode> [   80.652112] NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out
[22:09] <flipmode> [   80.652131] eth1: Tx timed out, cable problem? TSR=0x16, ISR=0x0, t=57.
[22:09] <flipmode> [   82.867394] hdd: cdrom_decode_status: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
[22:09] <flipmode> [   82.867411] hdd: cdrom_decode_status: error=0x40 { LastFailedSense=0x04 }
[22:09] <mrskateboy629> is there anyone available to solely help me fix my resolution?
[22:09] <jpatrick> !paste | flipmode
[22:09] <ubotu> flipmode: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[22:10] <mrskateboy629> is there anyone available to solely help me fix my resolution?
[22:10] <flipmode> noserednaekim:there it is sorry bout that
[22:10] <bsm> hi, I'm running kde4 "beta", does anyone know where I can enable virtual desktops?
[22:11] <mrskateboy629> is there anyone available to solely help me fix my resolution?
[22:11] <ardchoille> !repeat | mrskateboy629
[22:11] <ubotu> mrskateboy629: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[22:11] <kenster> !resolution
[22:11] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[22:11] <nosrednaekim> bsm: add a "pager" applet to the desktop. or ctrl+f1(f2, etc)
[22:11] <ludan> and i've a funny problem with soundcard, i've to plug something in the input in order to get it working
[22:12] <flipmode> noserednaekim: did you get that?
[22:12] <ludan> i read something about but i couldn't find the solution, any clue?
[22:12] <mrskateboy629> ubotu> i did that but nothing happened
[22:12] <ludan> !frozen-bubble
[22:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about frozen-bubble - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:12] <ludan> !frozenbubble
[22:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about frozenbubble - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:12] <Flare183> !info frozen-bubble
[22:12] <ubotu> frozen-bubble: Pop out the bubbles !. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.1.0-1 (gutsy), package size 150 kB, installed size 712 kB
[22:12] <bsm> thanks nosrednaekim, just didn't found it
[22:12] <ludan> thanks :D
[22:13] <Flare183> no problem
[22:13] <ardchoille> mrskateboy629: You did « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » ?
[22:13] <mrskateboy629> i just need to figure out why i cant pick a higher resolution
[22:13] <jpatrick> ludan: please /msg the bot to investigate :)
[22:13] <bsm> and does anyone know what the "zoom out" function is for in kde4?
[22:13] <ludan> jpatrick: :D
[22:13] <bsm> i thought you would see all desktops
[22:13] <mrskateboy629> ardchoillo>i did that and nothing happened
[22:13] <ardchoille> mrskateboy629: , of course nothing happened, you need to read http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[22:14] <mrskateboy629> i did but i cant seem to figures it out
[22:14] <mrskateboy629> im a noob
[22:15] <mrskateboy629> is there someone who could just walk me hrough this
[22:15] <mrskateboy629> through*
[22:15] <flipmode> noserednaekim: did you get that?
[22:16] <nosrednaekim> flipmode: ah... yes
[22:16] <Jortmans> could somebody please help me? I've got an SIGSEGV 11 error in someting called nspluginviewer and it currently fucks up my whole system
[22:16] <nosrednaekim> flipmode: something is wrong with your drive.
[22:16] <nosrednaekim> Jortmans: you running 64 bit?
[22:17] <Jortmans> what do you mean, colourdepth?
[22:17] <flipmode> noserednaekim: do you think I have it in the wrong pin as slave or something
[22:17] <mrskateboy629> please somerone help me
[22:17] <ScorpKing> !wtf | Jortmans
[22:17] <ubotu> Jortmans: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[22:17] <nosrednaekim> Jortmans: no... OS
[22:17] <nosrednaekim> x86_64
[22:18] <kenster> it's just a bad disc, or laser needs cleaned
[22:18] <Mr_Sonoma> mrskateboy629, what do you need help with?
[22:18] <ardchoille> mrskateboy629: You have asked that several times. Please be patient, repeated asking is not going to get you helped any faster.
[22:18] <mrskateboy629> mr_sonoma
[22:18] <mrskateboy629> could you chat with me awbout my problem
[22:19] <mrskateboy629> i need to get my resolution higher but i cant
[22:19] <Jortmans> I'm not intirely sure just let me check
[22:20] <Jortmans> by the way, kacces just gave the same error
[22:20] <nosrednaekim> Jortmans: uname -a should tell you
[22:20] <Mr_Sonoma> mrskateboy629, ah see im not real strong on that particular topic, i've got one system here i still dont have exactly right in that very area (although i think mine is a hardware issue)
[22:21] <nosrednaekim> Jortmans: probably nspluginwrapper.... but we shall see.
[22:21] <mrskateboy629> i have no idea how to get my resolution to 1024x768 and its so frustration
[22:22] <Jortmans> 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 08:02:57 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[22:22] <mrskateboy629> im so fed up with this problem that im about to say forget it and install windows
[22:22] <nosrednaekim> Jortmans: hmmm nope
[22:22] <kenster> mrskateboy629: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#intro
[22:22] <Jortmans> it doesn't say on the cd either
[22:22] <nosrednaekim> mrskateboy629: did you use the restricted-manager to install the nvidia drivers?
[22:23] <nosrednaekim> Jortmans: yeah... its not 64 bit.
[22:23] <mrskateboy629> yes i did
[22:23] <ludan> !flashplugin
[22:23] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[22:23] <mrskateboy629> it says theyre enabled and everything
[22:24] <Jortmans> noop, is that bad?
[22:24] <Mr_Sonoma> and under the kmenu > system settings > monitor & display does it show a higher setting avail?
[22:24] <flo_> hi guys
[22:24] <flo_> quick question
[22:24] <BluesKaj> mrskateboy629, has anyone suggested that you check out installing the drivers available for your monitor (unless it's a laptop) ?
[22:24] <mrskateboy629> the highest setting available is 640x480
[22:25] <flo_> does kubuntu support hard drive encryption with it's installer
[22:25] <mrskateboy629> blueKaj> no they havent
[22:25] <parkin> i need a tip on how to make the key combo Ctrl + Shift + R = synclient TouchpadOff=1
[22:25] <mrskateboy629> it just says plug and play
[22:25] <nosrednaekim> parkin: accesibility in system settings
[22:26] <parkin> ok
 can you alter it andset it to costum
[22:26] <Jortmans> that worked for me
[22:26] <BluesKaj> mrskateboy629, exactly , check admin mode then look for your monitor in the cconfigure list
[22:26] <mrskateboy629> my monitor?
[22:27] <mrskateboy629> its not listed...i have an emachine
[22:27] <skyUbu> hello again
[22:28] <mrskateboy629> 17''
[22:29] <BluesKaj> well then, mrskateboy629 , take Jortmans' suggestion ,and set the monitor as custom
[22:29] <wilson_> I'm new to Kubuntu and I'm looking for a way to print envelopes from Kubuntu.
[22:29] <mrskateboy629> IM NOT SURE HOW TO DO THAT
[22:29] <mrskateboy629> sorry capps
[22:30] <ludan> flash is installed but doesn't work in firefox :(
[22:30] <BluesKaj> !flash | ludan
[22:30] <ubotu> ludan: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[22:30] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[22:32] <ludan> i really don't undestand
[22:34] <parkin> nosrednaekim: thanks it works :)
[22:34] <nosrednaekim> parkin: cool
[22:34] <ludan> boh
[22:39] <NickPresta> whoa. I have KDE 4 installed. I'm in a KDE 3 session and I started the Last.fm player and it's using the oxygen theme for no apparent reason. Nothing else is using that theme. Everything is still functional, but I'm curious why this is happening. Any ideas?
[22:42] <ludan> !kopete
[22:42] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) is supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !gaim
[22:44] <Jucato> NickPresta: possibly because it's using Qt4. the only explanation I can think of right now
[22:45] <nosrednaekim> NickPresta: pretty, eh :)
[22:45] <NickPresta> Jucato, I was thinking of that as well. Do you know of any other QT4 applications that I can install to test this theory.
[22:45] <NickPresta> nosrednaekim, I like it, yep :)
[22:45] <Jucato> Kubuntu Hardware Database I think.
[22:45] <NickPresta> Jucato, okay. I'll give it a try
[22:45] <ScorpKing> NickPresta: or it's just real nice and all to happy to give you a preview of kde4 ;)
[22:46] <nosrednaekim> NickPresta: psi is qt4 as well
[22:46] <ludan> i've kopete crashing, how to solve it? my kubuntu is just installed on the machine
[22:46] <ludan> i read on the Internet something similar but no solution
[22:46] <nosrednaekim> ludan: with MSN?
[22:46] <ludan> yes
[22:46] <ScorpKing> NickPresta: i saw a few on kde-apps as well
[22:46] <nosrednaekim> ludan: grab all updates
[22:46] <ludan> how?
[22:47] <ludan> nosrednaekim: which one?
[22:47] <nosrednaekim> ludan: "sudo apt-get update && sudp apt-get upgrade"
[22:47] <nosrednaekim> sudp->sudo
[22:47] <ludan> is it a well-known problem?
[22:48] <Jucato> it *was*
[22:51] <flathm> hey everyone, I'm curious when kde4 packages will be available?
[22:51] <jpatrick> flathm: when it's released
[22:52] <flathm> jpatrick: so, on friday?
[22:52] <jpatrick> flathm: hopefullt
[22:52] <jpatrick> flathm: we cannot release packages if the official release is not out
[22:53] <flathm> jpatrick: totally... nice to hear that the plan is to have them ready so soon after release though!
[22:54] <maatta> hello
[22:54] <nosrednaekim> flathm: we were given the tarballs friday...
[22:54] <Greenery> Just wondering, app under KDE3 can still work on KDE4?
[22:54] <jpatrick> nosrednaekim: ssh!
[22:54] <maatta> bye
[22:54] <nosrednaekim> Greenery: yes
[22:54] <nosrednaekim> jpatrick: oh.. thats right.. we are magician
[22:54] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[22:55] <Greenery> i'm tempted to upgrade to KDE4 when its released but worried might not be stable >.<
[22:55] <Fahuadai> Hello. I'm building a new machine and was wondering if anyone could reccommend me a 5.1/7.1 sound card for under £40 which has decent drivers on k7.10?
[22:55] <jpatrick> Greenery: it will install side-by-side with KDE3
[22:55] <flathm> nosrednaekim: oh yeah? nice!
[22:55] <nosrednaekim> Greenery: its stable. just not as feature filled
[22:56] <flathm> jpatrick: if we've installed rc2, will it be a simple matter of upgrading?
[22:56] <Greenery> ah ic
[22:56] <jpatrick> flathm: yes
[22:56] <Greenery> but lets say i've upgraded and feels like to revert back everything to KDE3, can it be done?
[22:56] <Jucato> jpatrick: we'll be using the PPA to release the stable packages?
[22:56] <jpatrick> Jucato: most probably
[22:56] <Jucato> Greenery: you don't "upgrade" to KDE 4... KDE 4 will be installed side-by-side with KDE 3
[22:57] <Jucato> you can switch back and forth from the login screen, or run KDE 4 apps in KDE 3 and vice versa
[22:57] <stick> !mp3
[22:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[22:57] <stick> !play mp3
[22:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about play mp3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:58] <Dragnslcr> Speaking of which, are the latest PPA packages any more usable than the RC2 packages?
[22:58] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: well, I haven't tested them, but they are later so I would assume so
[22:58] <Jucato> Dragnslcr: yes. according to stdin they've been updated to a certain revision in SVN (before it was tagged)
[22:58] <flathm> Jucato: nice! is it advisable to keep kde3 around, or wil it be okay to toast it
[22:58] <nosrednaekim> flathm: keep it.
[22:58] <jpatrick> flathm: I'm keeping it
[22:58] <Jucato> flathm: it's necessary
[22:59] <nexamac> lo all
[23:00] <flathm> Jucato: kde3 apps don't show in the kde4 menus though right?
[23:00] <NexaMac> any simple way to mount a moveable USB disk?
[23:00] <NexaMac> like a MP3 player for an example
[23:00] <Jucato> flathm: they do
[23:00] <nosrednaekim> NexaMac: should automatically do so
[23:00] <Jucato> and vice versa
[23:00] <NexaMac> really?
[23:00] <NexaMac> sounds sexy
[23:00] <arriesp> xao gente
[23:00] <flathm> Jucato: I guess I should try it, but it sounds a bit clunky... two instances of each app in the menus?
[23:01] <Jucato> flathm: yes. one is plain "App name", the other is "App name KDE 4"
[23:02] <flathm> Jucato: I don
[23:03] <Jucato> from where did you get your kde4 packages?
[23:03] <flathm> Jucato: heh ooops... I was gonna say I don't like the idea of having two of each, but whatever
[23:03] <Jucato> ah
[23:03] <flathm> yeah sorry about that... damn laptop keyboard
[23:04] <Jucato> I guess you'd rather hunt down the executable (actually it uses a wrapper script to make sure the proper environment variables are set properly) than simply clicking on the menu... ok :)
[23:04] <Impiety> anyone here have any experience sharing a windows printer with linux?
[23:05] <lkdkdksiff> is it possible to download ndiswrapper.deb and all dependencies.debs for ubuntu 7.10 under windows, so that i can install that programm on a ubuntu 7.10 machine which has no internet connection
[23:06] <flathm> Jucato: heheh... well, no I don't think I'd prefer that... I'll just shut up about, I'm just happy not to have to compile it myself
[23:08] <heanol> when kde4 is released.. will it be available from the ppa repository that rc2 is currently available from?
[23:15] <thewhitepelican> hi everyone
[23:15] <usser> hey
[23:16] <thewhitepelican> does anyone know when the dist-upgrade from adept will be fixed for 07.10?
[23:16] <thewhitepelican> it's quite broken right now
[23:16] <terran4000> Why not just use > apt-get -u dist-upgrade
[23:17] <nexamac> terran4000: sound damn you! ;o
[23:17] <Jucato> thewhitepelican: how is it broken?
[23:18] <Schuenemann> how can I force the font DPI to a certain value?
[23:18] <terran4000> nexamac: yo, still not workin aye?
[23:18] <nexamac> terran4000: yo, and naw :<
[23:18] <thewhitepelican> hi Jucato. well I'll tell you. After I install the base system, I update the repository list
[23:18] <nexamac> just got home from work, so havent had much time to look into it :o
[23:19] <terran4000> Ah, the joys of workin at home.
[23:19] <terran4000> Anywho ...
[23:19] <terran4000> Laptop Mac, running kubuntu 7.10
[23:19] <nexamac> you know, youve got kittens, work at home, and sound working.. i want your life :<
[23:19] <thewhitepelican> then I fetch updates, the full upgrade. During the configure step, at about 61 percent, it says can't continue because it says certain packages will break others
[23:19] <NickPresta> Jucato, you were correct. QT4 applications are using Oxygen. Any idea how to change this?
[23:19] <terran4000> nexamac: you don't want my life.
[23:19] <Jucato> NickPresta: qtconfig-qt4
[23:20] <Jucato> thewhitepelican: ah in that case, use apt-get instead to see the real reason why
[23:20] <thewhitepelican> ah
[23:20] <thewhitepelican> good idea
[23:20] <thewhitepelican> I'll let you know
[23:20] <terran4000> NexaMac: so ... back to the mac.
[23:21] <NexaMac> back to it ;o
[23:21] <thewhitepelican> is it OK to allow all the repositories too?
[23:21] <terran4000> What does lscpi list you're card as
[23:21] <terran4000> ?
[23:21] <NexaMac> sec
[23:21] <thewhitepelican> or should I exclude some of them?
[23:22] <NexaMac> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[23:22] <Jucato> thewhitepelican: you generally don't need/want -backports unless you need/want something from there, or deb-src, unless you're downloading souce packages
[23:22] <Jucato> source*
[23:22] <NickPresta> Jucato, thanks. It appears that any QT app. is using the QT4 style (and oxygen color theme). Speedcrunch, for example, is all Oxygen-ized.
[23:22] <thewhitepelican> ok, good to know
[23:23] <thewhitepelican> will I need backports ofr kde4?
[23:23] <thewhitepelican> for*
[23:23] <ariane> hi. i'm experiencing some problems with the windows borders of a couple of applications such as blender and all the open office kit. does anyone knows how to fix it and could explain it to me please ?
[23:23] <Jucato> thewhitepelican: wait for Friday. we'll have definite answers for that by then :)
[23:23] <thewhitepelican> I can do that :D
[23:23] <Schuenemann> how can I force the font DPI to a certain value?
[23:23] <Jucato> ariane: if you explained what the problems are, we could probably try if we knew
[23:24] <terran4000> speaking of kittens, brb ... mines meowing it's head off again.
[23:24] <thewhitepelican> It's "interesting" rc 2  that is
[23:24] <TheWhiteRook> I tried KDE4 and it was buggy enough yet that I decided to wait until Friday
[23:24] <thewhitepelican> at least there is finally a K buttin hehe
[23:24] <ariane> Jucato: the problem is that my borders disapear.
[23:24] <thewhitepelican> button*
[23:25] <TheWhiteRook> I couldn't do any right-click config on the bar.
[23:25] <NexaMac> terran4000: i put mine to sleep, threated with feeding it to the dog :<
[23:25] <sigma_1234> ive always had a k button on kde4
[23:25] <thewhitepelican> I didn't have one on beta 2 or 3
[23:25] <ariane> Jucato: i have compiz-fusion installed and i type "kde-window-decorator --replace" but blender and open office just won't get their borders back.
[23:26] <Jucato> TheWhiteRook: you couldn't because that feature doesn't exist yet :)
[23:26] <terran4000> NexaMac: o.O
[23:26] <Jucato> ariane: ah compiz... try asking in #compiz-fusion
[23:26] <terran4000> NexaMac: right, meowing right along. You are dual booting this mac right?
[23:26] <ariane> Jucato: ok thanks for the tip.
[23:26] <sigma_1234> i dont think u can right click it yet. remember plasma is stil under heavy development
[23:27] <thewhitepelican> Jucato, for someone like me who has used kde for 4 years now, what kind of learning curve should I expect for kde 4.0?
[23:27] <Jucato> not that much other than Plasma really. and even then remember that 4.0 is just the first in a series of long releases, so things can still change
[23:28] <Jucato> Plasma and Dolphin (new default file manager)
[23:28] <TheWhiteRook> wait... plasma?
[23:28] <thewhitepelican> very true, Jucato
[23:28] <sigma_1234> i dont think its much of a learning curve for a end user. but yes it is for a programmer
[23:28] <terran4000> nexamac: you and 'that' button
[23:29] <nexamac> :<
[23:29] <nexamac> wasnt me this time
[23:29] <terran4000> lol
[23:29] <nexamac> konqueror crashed the comp o_O
[23:29] <terran4000> You're dual booting the mac right?
[23:29] <nexamac> yes
[23:29] <terran4000> And sound works on OS-X right?
[23:29] <nexamac> i always dual boot so i have something to fall back on in case i mess up :P
[23:29] <nexamac> yes
[23:30] <TheWhiteRook> nexamac: did your sound randomly disappear?
[23:30] <Schuenemann> how can I force the font DPI to a certain value?
[23:30] <terran4000> nah, its just nexamac that just randomly disappears.
[23:30] <TheWhiteRook> thanx.
[23:30] <Jucato> !patience | Schuenemann
[23:30] <ubotu> Schuenemann: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[23:30] <nexamac> remind me to use firefox
[23:30] <nexamac> seriously
[23:31] <terran4000> Heh.
[23:31] <sigma_1234> but remember kde4.0.0 is only a technology review. so dont judge it too hard
[23:32] <nexamac> terran4000: yes, sound works in osx
[23:32] <nexamac> :P
[23:32] <terran4000> nexamac: k
[23:33] <sigma_1234> did anyone see that devs screenshot tour of the final kde4?
[23:33] <thewhitepelican> I think I did
[23:33] <thewhitepelican> it looks kinda interesting
[23:33] <TheWhiteRook> nexamac: my sound wasn't working for a couple reboots, and I went into alsamixer and found that my PCM channel was turned all the way down, and turning it back up fixed it
[23:34] <thewhitepelican> there ya go, rook
[23:34] <nexamac> TheWhiteRook: done that
[23:34] <TheWhiteRook> oh. darn.
[23:34] <TheWhiteRook> that's all I got on the sound thing.
[23:34] <sigma_1234> im most intrigued by the amount of last minute work dat went into plasma
[23:35] <terran4000> nexamac: you're part of the "audio" group?
[23:35] <terran4000> ie: > groups | grep audio
[23:35] <nexamac> the what?
[23:35] <nexamac> hmm
[23:35] <nexamac> nexamac adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner lpadmin admin netdev powerdev
[23:35] <nexamac> guess so
[23:35] <terran4000> yeah .. hmm
[23:36] <sigma_1234> but it rely looks gud now
[23:37] <terran4000> brb phone call
[23:39] <terran4000> that was random >_>
[23:39] <terran4000> Idea! Let's try something completely wack!
[23:39] <terran4000> try playing a song as root
[23:41] <nexamac> o-O
[23:41] <nexamac> k
[23:41] <nexamac> sec
[23:42] <fincan> any1 with raid0 install?
[23:43] <terran4000> fincan: used to have one, what's up?
[23:43] <nexamac> terran4000: root changed nothing
[23:43] <nexamac> however
[23:43] <mark__> how do i mount something thats at /media/sdb1 to the storage folder?
[23:43] <nexamac> im guessing its drivers knowing about the red light :/
[23:43] <fincan> terran4000: I ve installation problem with raid0 setup since 7.04
[23:43] <nexamac> man
[23:43] <terran4000> nexamac: so what is this red light you speak of? ??
[23:43] <ubuntu> hi
[23:44] <terran4000> ubuntu: wazup?
[23:44] <nexamac> terran4000: told you last night :P where im supposed to insert a headset theres a red light on
[23:44] <ubuntu> nutin
[23:44] <terran4000> fincan: can you be more detailed than that?
[23:44] <fincan> terran4000:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/110245
[23:44] <terran4000> nexamac: >_> I remember you telling me that ... but why is there a red light?
[23:45] <nexamac> terran4000: my guess, drivers arent functioning or its not usable for other ghey reason
[23:45] <nexamac> so
[23:45] <nexamac> tell me, how do i uninstall sound drivers? never ever done that O_O
[23:45] <terran4000> nexamac: rmmod <sound-card-module-driver-name-thingy>
[23:46] <fincan> terran4000: there were no problems while I was using 6.10 but as I said since 7.04 I ve this problem that was reported in launchpad
[23:46] <terran4000> fincan: I had a similar problem when trying to move my raid from 6.10 to 7.X
[23:47] <fincan> terran4000: could u solve the problem?
[23:47] <ubuntu> i noticed that when I loaded up this live kubuntu 64 bit cd that I get a string at btm of screen (about mapping) then black screen.  Reading online I found a blod in which someone had the same prob, removed splash from the boot string and it worked.  So I did.  Worked but I see that there was some error msgs at the ebginning such as 'buffer i/o' thingies
[23:47] <terran4000> fincan: well, you won't like my solution ...mostly because it's not one you'll want to do
[23:47] <fincan> terran4000: gave up using raid? XD
[23:48] <terran4000> fincan: lol no. What I did was boot into something that could see the raid. Back it up 'somewhere' else. Then boot into 'current'/new system and build a new raid
[23:49] <terran4000> nexamac: is that red light on when you're in os-x?
[23:49] <nexamac> nope
[23:49] <terran4000> what is that red light for anyway?!!
[23:49] <nexamac> if i knew i would tell you :>
[23:49] <terran4000> lol
[23:49] <ubuntu> it is prob a detionation warning device
[23:49] <ScorpKing> what is the program to take screenshots with?
[23:49] <Schuenemann> ScorpKing, hit printscreen
[23:50] <fincan> terran4000: lol some comfusing :), there s no solution still?
[23:50] <ScorpKing> not working
[23:50] <NickPresta> ScorpKing, ksnapshot
[23:50] <ScorpKing> ah
[23:50] <terran4000> fincan: one sec. I'll look into it more in a few.
[23:50] <fincan> terran4000:ok :)
[23:51] <ScorpKing> NickPresta: thanks. for some reason i have to start it manually
[23:52] <terran4000> nexamac: can you do this for me: > lsmod | grep snd
[23:53] <nexamac> never :<
[23:53] <nexamac> pastebin in a sec
[23:54] <nexamac> http://pastebin.com/d1cb9cb74 terran4000
[23:55] <itsjustme> hello all.. I dont understand how to add my cell phone device to the computer??  any help?
[23:55] <itsjustme> I have an HTC touch phone
[23:55] <selckin> when i install kubuntu through deboostrap manually (just a apt-get install kubuntu-desktop after), admin mode doesn't work in the kcontrol configuration, i'm not sure how it all works, anything else i should do?, it spits out these errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51406/
[23:55] <terran4000> fincan: hmm lets try something funky
[23:55] <terran4000> fincan: remove dmraid (outdated I think) and install "mdadm"
[23:56] <terran4000> I remember dmraid giving me heaps of trouble till I just settled on mdadm
[23:57] <raton> #linux aide
[23:57] <raton> #linux_aide
[23:57] <nexamac> terran4000: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/137319
[23:57] <nexamac> what rickhodgin wrote
[23:57] <nexamac> possible solution?
[23:57] <fincan> terran4000: hmm but there s very important point that booting from live cd is enough to make one of raid membered hdds disable
[23:58] <raton> ce trouve t'il des francais ici?
[23:58] <mark__> how do i mount a disk into storage media when is accessable via /media/sdb1 ?
[23:58] <NickPresta> !fr | raton
[23:58] <ubotu> raton: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[23:58] <nexamac> !fr raton
[23:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fr raton - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:58] <nexamac> :<
[23:59] <raton> ùerci  :)
[23:59] <raton> merci ^^