| crimsun | amitk_: unfortunately, no. I've often started by mv'ing /etc/udev/rules.d/85-alsa.rules out of the way so that on a fresh boot, asound.state isn't `alsactl restore`'d at all | 00:44 |
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| amitk_ | crimsun: would it be that hard to create a minimal asound.state with fore example Master, PCM, Line In? | 00:46 |
| amitk_ | crimsun: the problem we are trying to solve is not having to 1. delete asound.state, 2. kill mixer applet, 3. rmmod driver 4. modprobe driver just to get a clean slate | 00:47 |
| crimsun | amitk_: the cleanest slate that can be gotten is simply not to `alsactl restore` on boot | 00:48 |
| crimsun | amitk_: even with a "minimal" asound.state, there's no guarantee said mixer elements are even enumerated :/ | 00:49 |
| amitk_ | crimsun: we want to _try_ one step better. Instead of a clean slate, give 'em a minimal default that is known to work on majority of that HW | 00:49 |
| amitk_ | crimsun: I understand the codec wiring will dictate a lot of details, but surely everyone will have Master, PCM and Line In? | 00:50 |
| crimsun | amitk_: nope, some emu10k-based ones don't | 00:51 |
| crimsun | a lot of usb ones don't | 00:51 |
| crimsun | for HDA, Conexant, Realtek, and Sigmatel should | 00:52 |
| amitk_ | will 3-4 such minimal configs cover 90% of the HW out there? | 00:52 |
| crimsun | hmm, yes | 00:52 |
| crimsun | I'm guessing that 90% of the HW will be PCI-based, with the vast majority being HDA | 00:54 |
| amitk_ | crimsun: so if we can have them pre-installed as say, asound.state.intel, asound.state.dell or whatever, we could ask the user to check if sound works with 'alsactl -F -f <path to asound.state> restore' | 00:55 |
| crimsun | amitk_: yes, that is feasible | 00:56 |
| amitk_ | crimsun: it could even be exposed in the mixer applet UI | 00:56 |
| amitk_ | crimsun: I can try to come up with something for HDA, Realtek, Sigmatel stuff. Could you help with the USB, emu10k ones? | 00:59 |
| crimsun | amitk_: I'm afraid I can't promise, but I certainly will try. | 01:00 |
| amitk_ | crimsun: ok... thanks Daniel. I will keep you posted on this. | 01:00 |
| crimsun | amitk_: http://pastebin.ca/search.php?q=alsa-info&s=Search should help | 01:00 |
| crimsun | amitk_: for some time, we've been accumulating pastebinned codec dumps | 01:01 |
| amitk_ | crimsun: great... this might prove handy | 01:03 |
| Hasufin | ....imbrandon or zul around? | 05:11 |
| Hasufin | ..........was looking for imbrandon's fatx module | 05:12 |
| Hasufin | id rather try not and ...... well you know, recreate the wheel | 05:13 |
| Hasufin | im just reading old irc logs | 05:36 |
| Hasufin | tons of info :P | 05:36 |
| Hasufin | themuse - yeah I have that | 05:39 |
| Hasufin | but it was my understanding, he got the thing built | 05:39 |
| Hasufin | and had it up on his website somewhere :) | 05:39 |
| TheMuso | Hasufin: Ah ok. | 05:40 |
| Hasufin | or they had a patch or something | 05:40 |
| Hasufin | Ive been reading irc logs | 05:40 |
| Hasufin | thanks for replying and looking that up btw -- I appreciate it | 05:41 |
| TheMuso | Hasufin: Are you willing to build it for your kernel yourself? | 05:41 |
| Hasufin | Yeah, I'll have to get into the wiki's and such | 05:42 |
| Hasufin | I haven't built kernel modules since........ uh | 05:42 |
| Hasufin | redhat 6.x/suse 7.x days | 05:42 |
| Hasufin | or built a kernel since then | 05:42 |
| Hasufin | hmm | 05:44 |
| Hasufin | i think im going to have to do the exact same thing he did | 05:44 |
| Hasufin | he has a test fatx image posted | 05:44 |
| Hasufin | but doens't have the module source or anything so | 05:44 |
| Hasufin | this will be a learning exercise :) | 05:44 |
| Hasufin | i just realized something | 05:50 |
| Hasufin | wrong srever/cahnnel | 05:50 |
| Hasufin | Zul -- (or imbrandon) if you have that patch........ :) i'd appreciate if you pointed it to me. | 06:50 |
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| kraut | moin | 08:28 |
| imbrandon | Hasufin: what kernel version are you looking for the patch for ? | 10:37 |
| Hasufin | im on gutsy | 10:37 |
| Hasufin | 2.6.22-14 | 10:37 |
| Hasufin | generic | 10:38 |
| Hasufin | .............if you only knew what ive been thru tonight to get a damn dos boot disk modified :) | 10:38 |
| Hasufin | well... a dos boot iso | 10:38 |
| Hasufin | i didn't find a program to pull out a binary boot image off an iso.... | 10:38 |
| Hasufin | holy crap has it been heck :P | 10:38 |
| Hasufin | anyways another story | 10:39 |
| imbrandon | ok i have two diffrent patches, one for the kernel to run ON the xbox, and one to just run on gutsy x86 and read/write fatx filestsems | 10:41 |
| imbrandon | i'm guessing you need the latter ? | 10:41 |
| Hasufin | yes :) | 10:41 |
| Hasufin | hard drive is getting read errors | 10:42 |
| Hasufin | so I need to run ddrescue on it to get all my xbox stuff off it | 10:42 |
| imbrandon | ahh, is it unlocked or locked ? | 10:42 |
| imbrandon | this wont unlock the drive | 10:42 |
| imbrandon | it has to be unlocked by the xbox or xbhdm | 10:42 |
| Hasufin | why im doing the whole dos thing | 10:43 |
| Hasufin | trying varios spare drives i have to see if they are lockable | 10:43 |
| Hasufin | I have the password, etc | 10:43 |
| Hasufin | so I can unlock it | 10:43 |
| Hasufin | the drive just has a lot of bad sectors on it...... | 10:44 |
| imbrandon | ahh ok, do you have xbhdm ? ( btw mostly any modern ide drive can be locked ) | 10:44 |
| Hasufin | which is causing linux not to boot... or to install | 10:44 |
| Hasufin | ....no i don't have that... | 10:44 |
| Hasufin | what is it? | 10:44 |
| Hasufin | i haven't seen it in any of the readme's | 10:44 |
| imbrandon | xbox hard drive maker , it is a custom linux boot cd, that has the fatx modules, xbox harddrive clone utils etc | 10:45 |
| Hasufin | :P | 10:45 |
| Hasufin | wow | 10:45 |
| Hasufin | nice | 10:45 |
| imbrandon | one sec lemme find it | 10:45 |
| Hasufin | I will google it | 10:45 |
| imbrandon | is more what you need | 10:45 |
| Hasufin | well yes | 10:45 |
| Hasufin | that would help me not have to do the insmod.... mount rmmod thing on my desktop | 10:45 |
| imbrandon | ok here is the link, its 100% legal etc, but you can only gget it via torrent | 10:47 |
| imbrandon | http://www.torrentz.com/ec05e2c927a69699896a929d9c73eeacce07838d | 10:47 |
| imbrandon | read the README with it, but basicly there is a shellscripot in that zip that will make a custom iso just for your xbox with the eprom backup from your xbox or hdd passord | 10:48 |
| imbrandon | boot off that iso with your xbox hdd as the only drive attached ( and past this feel free to join me in #buntubox , we're getting a little OT for -kernel ) | 10:49 |
| imbrandon | zul, did you ever commit the fatx stuff to l-u-m ? | 11:06 |
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| voyo | hi there, anyone alive? need to ask about format of kallsyms | 12:30 |
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| blueyed | Is somebody not affected by bug 177713? How can I debug this? | 16:43 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 177713 in linux "2.6.24-2: Regression with idle cpu cycle handling" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177713 | 16:43 |
| mtretin | Can anyone help me figure out why ACPI support causes my IDE drives not to be recognized? | 17:13 |
| blueyed | mtretin: what do you mean with "not to be recognized"? | 17:16 |
| mtretin | w/o ACPI support, using the AHCI driver for my hdd and PIIX driver for my cdrom, when the kernel says it probes ide0 and ide1 it picks up my drive as /dev/hdb - when I turn *on* ACPI support int he kernel this doesn't happen | 17:18 |
| mtretin | blueyed: but it it doesn't pick the drive up as /dev/srX either | 17:18 |
| blueyed | mtretin: unfortunately I have no clue, but others might help you know better (with this info). Have you search for a bug about it on launchpad.net? | 17:20 |
| mtretin | I've been google searching for about a week for something relevant, and there are a few fixes -- none of which have worked, I'll try laynchpad now | 17:20 |
| maks_ | did you check for /dev/sdX mtretin | 17:23 |
| maks_ | above you speak about srX | 17:23 |
| mtretin | maks_: yup, there's nothing but /dev/sda :( | 17:23 |
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| maks_ | mtretin: what's your config? | 17:32 |
| maks_ | are you using stock kernels | 17:32 |
| mtretin | maks_: I've treid stock, custom rebuilds using stock sources, and rebuilds using vanilla | 17:33 |
| maks_ | 2.6.24-rc7 ? | 17:33 |
| mtretin | 2.6.23.13 | 17:34 |
| maks_ | 23 is a strange release i don't trust it much.. | 17:36 |
| mtretin | I'm meaning to try .24 (that's latest unstable, right?) but time keeps in slipping into /dev/null | 17:37 |
| maks_ | we have test builds on the debian side i guess ubuntu too | 17:38 |
| maks_ | they should just install fine | 17:38 |
| mtretin | maks_: I switched to Ubuntu hoping everything woudl work out of box, so, I'd love to install one - but what repository is it in? | 17:40 |
| maks_ | trunk http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernel | 17:42 |
| blueyed | maks_: Thanks for the hint, I can use those images instead of building it from git myself to test if my regression is still there. | 17:51 |
| blueyed | bleh. idle regression still in 2.6.24-rc7-686 from http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernel | 18:10 |
| blueyed | Is this enough to send it to the upstream bugtracker? (.config might be involved, so I'll include it of course) | 18:10 |
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| bullgard4 | uswsusp (0.6~cvs20070618-1ubuntu2) gutsy; urgency=low; mjg59: "* Don't build s2ram. It's not sensible on Ubuntu." I understand 'sensible' = reasonable. What is the reason? | 18:34 |
| mjg59 | Because we use pm-utils | 18:36 |
| mjg59 | And, in earlier versions, acpi-support | 18:36 |
| mjg59 | There's no reason to provide multiple packages that do exactly the same thing | 18:36 |
| mjg59 | If it doesn't work out of the box, that's a bug | 18:36 |
| bullgard4 | Thank you very much for explaining. | 18:36 |
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