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terran4000nexamac: scour your /var/log/kernel and messages for the any "snd_XYZ" problems00:00
terran4000if you have a similar messages in your logs then we could have just been thrown a bone!00:00
nexamac>_>00:00
terran4000o.O why is my cat eating my chips? WTF! Anywho fincan: sorry, I don't  understand.00:01
fincanterran4000: after booting livecd or installed ubuntu on the other hdd, I must shutdown pc because in raid boot screen one of the raid membered hdd seems as offline till shutdown00:01
terran4000fincan: what raid boot screen?00:01
fincanterran4000: next screen after bios's 100:02
terran4000ah00:03
terran4000fincan: ok, so ... if you boot into ubuntu (live cd or one installed on another hd) and once you reboot the HD will not show up in the raid thingy on boot correct?00:04
* terran4000 hopes what he just said made sense00:04
fincanterran4000: yeap :)00:05
terran4000ok, that's just plain weird.00:05
terran4000The fact that I made sense that is.00:05
terran4000ok ok ...00:06
terran4000So00:06
terran4000if you have everything setup fine, and the drive shows up in the raid thingy at boot ... but then you boot to a live cd, do nothing in there and just reboot, the drive won't show up anymore.00:07
fincanterran4000: there was another odd thing, I had not had any problem with 7.10 beta or alpha :)00:07
terran4000fincan: Do you have a dedicated raid card or are you using the 'onboard' raid controller that is part of the motherboard?00:07
fincanonboard 1, ich8 intel00:07
terran4000ok,00:08
fincanterran4000: and still no problem with 6.10 :)00:08
terran4000one thing I can say from experience ... don't use it and completely ignore any 'raid' stuff the motherboard gives ya00:08
fincanterran4000: but I wanna use new 1s :)00:08
terran4000I know, I understand.00:09
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terran4000I'm guessing you have some important info on that raid right?00:09
mark__which server is the easiest to configure for sharing to windows?00:09
fincanterran4000: my windows setup and all archives on raid :)00:09
mark__easiest by newbie standards that is00:09
terran4000mark__: you mean which software? or which version of linux?00:10
terran4000fincan: eh .. bleh.00:10
mark__which software00:10
terran4000mark__: samba probably00:10
fincanterran4000: yeap I m the luckest man in the linux world :)00:11
terran4000fincan: Well, you're luck is about to change ;-)00:11
nexamacterran4000: Search string 'snd_xyz' not found!00:11
mark__thanks00:11
* terran4000 shakes fist at nexamac00:11
fincanterran4000: anyway, still I ve a hope XD00:12
fincanterran4000: thx00:12
terran4000nexamac: I didn't mean "snd_xyz" literally.00:12
nexamac:>00:12
terran4000fincan: dmraid is made to work with hardware raid and stuff00:12
terran4000motherboards these days don't do that00:12
terran4000even though they claim so00:12
terran4000Plus, they're all made for Windows, thus linux can only play catchup00:13
biovorethe raid is all done in software really..00:13
terran4000yeah00:13
terran4000exactly00:13
mark__do i have to restart to run samba?00:13
ubuntuamarok is not working, forgot the workaround00:13
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mark__its installed but i can't find it00:13
terran4000With the use of the hardware raid thingy from your motherboard .... linux has trouble with that00:13
fincanbut this s some odd, while I was using 6.10 why it doesnt work anymore :)00:13
biovoreto get one thats all hardware your looking at $400 bucks US to start..00:13
nexamacfor the love of..00:14
terran4000You're best bet would be to not run it that way :-(00:14
tekstacyHow do I unlock a locked folder?00:14
biovorehardware raid works great on linux :-)00:14
terran4000fincan: sorry it's not exactly great news but it's the best I can give. Maybe someone else can do better. My apologies for not helping more.00:14
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fincanterran4000:thx anyway m8, as I said I ve a little hope only :)00:15
terran4000heh, cheers fincan.00:15
mark__sudo samba doesn't work either00:15
terran4000tekstacy: what do you mean locked?00:15
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raton#fr-kubuntu00:15
raton!fr raton00:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fr raton - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:15
terran4000mark__: you don't have to restart to run samba00:15
biovorehttp://linux-ata.org/faq-sata-raid.html <-- riad controller information00:15
NexaMac!fr | raton00:15
uboturaton: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.00:15
ratonthanks ^^00:16
Schuenemannanyone know how can I force a specific font DPI not listed in kcontrol?00:16
tekstacyThe icon shows a lock over it, properties says it is locked and if I try to use cd, I get told access denied00:16
fincanbiovore:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/11024500:16
tekstacyIt's a folder some game installer made00:16
Nexanotekstacy: sudo if terminal, hit the admin button in the window if GUI00:16
mark__how do i access it then?00:16
terran4000tekstacy: chmod 777 FOLDERNAME00:17
tekstacyAdmin button?00:17
Nexano:<00:17
Nexanojust sudo su from the command line :>00:17
terran4000!dpi00:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dpi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:17
terran4000>_>00:17
tekstacysudo chmod 777 /opt/PlaneSHift00:18
tekstacygrrr, sorry...00:18
terran4000Schuenemann: sorry, wish I could help but that's out of my league.00:18
terran4000NexaMac: search your log files for something pertaining to: snd_hda_intel00:19
biovorefincan: no clue.. I don't use software raid anymore these days.. Moved up to all hardware solutions..00:19
fincanbiovore: maybe hardware 1s can be ok but they r some expansive for home users like me XD00:20
Schuenemannterran4000, http://www.doingitwrong.com/wrong/wrong3.jpg00:20
geniiSchuenemann: You may find this page useful for your dpi isue: http://scanline.ca/dpi/00:21
terran4000Schuenemann: don't worry, I've actually done worse ;-)00:21
Schuenemanngenii, someone told me he solved it forcing dpi to 96, but I only have 120 option00:21
biovorefincan: yup.. I ran it on dapper here as well.. all software raid implementation.. Didn't have any problems.. I have tried to mess with it on feisty or gusty00:21
terran4000NexaMac: Hmmm, their proposed solution might work. Worth a try. No harm in it.00:22
Schuenemanngenii, resolution:    96x100 dots per inch <-- shouldn't it be a square?00:23
fincanbiovore: I m using 6.10 without any problem, but newer 1 ll be nice :)00:23
biovorefincan: yeah.. 6.06 is the LTS so they worry about minor details like that..00:23
fincanbiovore: thx u too for answers00:24
biovorefincan: might have to wait for the next LTS before DM-Raid works again..00:24
ibilicwhat's the command for updating all packages?00:24
fincanbiovore: I m waiting XD already XD00:24
NexaMacterran4000: failed at compiling00:24
biovoresudo apt-get update00:24
biovoresudo apt-get upgrade00:24
vzduchin that order00:25
terran4000NexaMac: which part and what was the error?00:25
geniiSchuenemann: No, if you have for instance 10x10 the aspect ratio of your monitor makes it not look like a square. Think of sqare 15" monitor which is set for ratios like 1024x768 or such00:25
Schuenemanngenii, yeh, you're right...00:26
NexaMacterran4000: ./configure00:26
terran4000NexaMac: ok ... what was the error?00:27
Nexanogetting to it :P00:27
terran4000My guess is a missing library ^_^00:27
NexaMacsmartass ;o00:27
NexaMacchecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables00:27
NexaMacSee `config.log' for more details.00:27
terran4000o.O00:27
terran4000what ... the ...00:27
terran4000NexaMac: You know, after all of this you're gonna owe me a beer.00:28
Nexanoi never let a man drink one beer00:28
Nexanoits either many or none00:28
Nexanoso bring your wallet :<00:28
geniiSchuenemann: 100x75 would be a square incidentally00:28
terran4000NexaMac: apt-get install g++ cpp00:29
jjessequestion: i enable sharing via samba on my xp vm when i try to connect to that share from windows, i am asked for a username and password, the username and password of the user i'm logged doesn't work, any ideas?00:29
Schuenemanngenii, I see...00:29
NickPrestaNexaMac, do you have the build-essential package?00:29
NexaMacNickPresta: think so00:29
NexaMac:p00:29
* NexaMac is still learning >_>00:30
jjessei have samba installed00:30
NexaMacterran4000: ./configure ran like a baby now :D00:30
terran4000woohoo!00:30
Nexano<300:30
terran4000Sorry, don't swing that way anymore.00:31
Nexano*snivel*00:31
ader10will I lose any functionality in kde if I use gdm? how about gnome with kdm?00:31
vzduch!b-e | NexaMac00:31
terran4000heh, well, now make and make install like it said. and let's see what crops up00:31
ubotuNexaMac: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)00:32
jjesse!samba00:32
ubotuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.00:32
vzduchader10: KDM/GDM is only for graphical login, has nothing to do w/ other functionality00:32
ader10vzduch: that's not what a number of other people have said but thank you :) I will choose gdm for now.00:33
geniivzduch: I have noticed sometimes kde using gdm has weirdnesses with screensaver size00:34
vzduchgenii: screensavers are about the last thing I look at, as I usually deactivate them anyway :>00:34
Nexanohmm00:34
ader10genii: do you notice any other loss of functionality00:35
NexaMacconfigure: error: this packages requires a curses library <--- terran4000 :<00:35
vzduchNexaMac: sudo apt-get install ncurses-devel00:35
Nexanoah00:36
Nexanocheers00:36
terran4000NexaMac: what he said.00:36
geniiader10: Not really00:36
NexanoARGH00:36
Nexanoalso00:36
Nexanocouldnt find package00:36
vzduchtry ncurses-dev00:36
vzduchthe naming is different in different distros, and I am not on *buntu00:37
geniilibncurses5-dev00:37
genii!info libncurses5-dev00:38
ubotulibncurses5-dev: Developer's libraries and docs for ncurses. In component main, is optional. Version 5.6+20070716-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 1422 kB, installed size 6136 kB00:38
apokruphoscould someone help me with a simple question?00:38
terran4000Yes00:38
terran4000That was easy.00:38
Nexano:D00:39
apokruphosit is in multiple parts. =p00:39
vzduchapokruphos: depends on the simple question.. we can't know unless you ask ;)00:39
Nexanocomplex > simple00:39
terran4000Unless you refactor your code, then simple > complex00:39
Nexano._.00:39
Nexanopartypooper00:39
apokruphosI'm running the kubuntu livecd to recover some data from a hdd with a corrupted windows install. Where in the tree is the data on the hard drive?00:40
adz21capokruphos: i think /media, but u might need to manually mount the drive00:40
apokruphosah, that might be it, media was empty00:41
vzduchapokruphos: it's nowhere unless you mounted it00:41
vzduchinkbuntu: are you the pen-and-paper version of Ubuntu? =D00:41
adz21clol00:41
Nexano>_<00:41
Nexanoterran4000: in alsamixer, there a slider named IEC958 which is set to 00 and cant be modified00:42
Nexanobad sign? :p00:42
inkbuntuvzduch: I'm men and I'm an entusiast of Ubuntu from Venezuela :D00:42
terran4000No idea, try unmuting it if possible00:42
Nexanocant :<00:42
terran4000Nexano: then ignore it.00:43
terran4000Nexano: keep compiling ^_^00:43
Nexanoim done :<00:43
terran4000with all 3?00:44
Nexanoyes00:44
apokruphoswhat do I mount then? /hda?00:44
Nexanofailed horribly tbh00:44
vzduchNexano: what failed?00:44
Nexanovzduch: still no sound :)00:44
geniiapokruphos: normally hda1 or sda1, yes00:44
terran4000you did sudo make00:44
terran4000and sudo make install00:44
Nexanoyesh00:44
terran4000for all 3?00:44
vzduchterran4000: no need to sudo make00:44
vzduchjust make00:45
terran4000vzduch: yeah yeah, I know. too lazy to change directions00:45
apokruphosIt's not in fstab or mtab00:45
terran4000Nexano: did you restart the mac?00:45
Nexanoyeah00:45
Nexanoim trying to compile the alsa-lib again as it went a little fast last time, taking ages now00:46
terran4000bullocks ...00:46
apokruphoscows?00:46
apokruphos;)00:46
nexamacmake[2]: Entering directory `/home/nexamac/Desktop/alsa-utils/alsa-utils-1.0.14/alsaconf/po'00:47
nexamacmv: cannot stat `t-ja.gmo': No such file or directory00:47
vzduchgood night folks :)00:48
nexamacnn00:48
terran4000cheers00:48
geniivzduch: night00:48
Nexano>_>00:49
ibilicark crashes... what do I do?00:50
terran4000Nexano: remove the alsa-utils directory00:50
ibilicI can't open it00:50
terran4000uncompress it again00:50
ibilicI want to make an archive00:50
terran4000and try a fresh ./configure; make; sudo make install00:50
ibilicbut I can't even open ark00:50
apokruphosWhen I try 'mount /dev/hda1'  it returns "mount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab". What am I missing?00:51
ibilicterran4000: I am a little new... what do I type in the console?00:51
Dr_willisibilic,  i alwyas use the command line tools. or mc.00:51
Nexanoibilic mkdir00:51
terran4000ibilic: sorry, I was talking to Nexano00:51
ardchoilleapokruphos: mount point?00:51
Nexanowanna create the folder lol? type mkdir lol00:52
ardchoilleapokruphos: mount /device /mount_point00:52
Nexanoor mkdir /etc/some/thing/lol00:52
apokruphos"mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist"00:53
ratonhow launch one "apt-setup" plz in the terminal ^^00:54
dbmoodbhello got a q  re clustering with dvd:rip, what do i set the local directory t obe00:54
apokruphosnm, I got it00:55
geniiraton: There is no command of that name. What did you want to change about apt?00:55
ratonmy sourcelist bug and i cant write another :(00:56
geniiraton: sudo cp /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list /etc/apt/00:57
ratonty^^00:57
Dr_willisi think apt-setup is in debian.00:57
geniiraton: That will copy the sample one in there. But you may need to add more, there are only a few in the example00:57
Dr_willisI always use that easysource web site00:58
Dr_willis!easysource00:58
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic00:58
ratonthanks allot ! :D00:58
geniiDr_willis: Actually that one is good too, does localisation etc00:58
dbmoodbnope ?00:59
Schuenemanngenii, "# The -dpi command line option has highest priority. " Which command uses that?01:00
geniiSchuenemann: when X is called, from commandline normally in the startx way, which just actually goes to binary of X01:00
ratonoula01:01
ratonautre problême:(01:01
ratonraton@raton-desktop:/etc/apt$ apt-get -f update01:01
ratonE: Impossible d'ouvrir le fichier verrou /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission non accordée)01:01
Schuenemanngenii, guess I shouldn't mess with that01:01
geniiraton: sudo01:01
ratonoops wrong chanel ^^01:01
ratonoh thanks ^^01:02
geniiSchuenemann: I haven't tinkered with that stuff normally, but I  seem to recall someplace in the /etc/X11 hierarchy is default options to X, which is where you wold put this. It is where the login manager like kdm or gdm draws it's initial info on how to display01:03
supergregI tried to follow this, but tried with kubuntu instead, it worked fine until now when I actually try to boot, I see syslinux starting, but it says "could not find kernel image: linux"  - http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/  - any quick hints, or another easy tutorial I could try? thanks01:04
geniiSchuenemann: I'm looking into where to set this stuff, if I find something I'll let ya know01:07
Schuenemanngenii, thanks brother01:09
geniiSchuenemann: np01:09
ubuntu__how can i edit my grub from a live cd01:10
geniiSchuenemann: /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc01:11
ubuntu__how can i edit my grub from a live cd01:12
nexamacterran4000!!11201:13
geniiubuntu__: Do you recall what the partition was that it installed to?01:13
terran4000 3 4 pick up sticks?01:13
nexamac:o01:13
nexamacmv: cannot stat `t-ja.gmo': No such file or directory <--- what i get when "make" utils :<01:13
terran4000You've tried removing the entire directory01:14
terran4000and untarring it again, and doing it from a fresh start right?01:14
ubuntu__genii: i dont know, the problem is i have two instilations, on two diff partitions01:14
ubuntu__and its booting to the wrong on01:14
ubuntu__e01:14
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Nexanoyes terran4000, got a few errors but i fixed them01:15
Nexanoturns out i didnt actually get headers >_>01:15
Nexanoheaders..01:15
Nexanokek01:15
terran4000>_>01:15
terran4000Right, so ... give me a link to the exact file you're trying and I'll give it a getgo01:16
Nexanosec01:17
Nexanomost forums say i need gettext01:17
Nexanoi got it, then they say i need some other crap01:17
Nexanomsg-instertworandomletters-01:17
geniiubuntu__: The next time you boot to wrong one, do command: mount    and notice which partition is the /   then try to find the one you wanted by command: sudo fdisk -l   which will list that one and hopefully only 1 other which has type of "linux" or 83 hex, this would be the (hopefully) right one. Then off livecd to mount it in a dir, then edit like nano /mountpoint/grub/menu.lst01:17
Nexanomsgfmt01:18
terran4000o.O01:18
Nexanosome nab said ja-trans01:19
Nexanodidnt do jack :<01:19
ubuntu__genii: thats the thing, i have unsolvable problems on the other, so i cant boot to it01:19
ubuntu__genii: but i know sdb2 is the wrong one and sdb3 is what i need it to boot to01:19
Schuenemanngenii, I changed from 100 to 96 but nothing happened01:19
geniiSchuenemann: :(01:19
Schuenemannexec /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi 96 -nolisten tcp01:20
geniiubuntu__: You have /boot on sda1? Or what is there, windows or so?01:20
geniiSchuenemann: Perhaps it is so close to 100 the difference is indistinguishable01:20
ubuntu__genii: no windows01:20
ubuntu__genii: its booting to sdb2, i need it to boot to sdb301:21
Schuenemanngenii, you think I should try a lower value?01:21
nexamacterran4000: ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/utils/alsa-utils-1.0.14.tar.bz201:21
geniiubuntu__: Yes, I understand the sda2 sda3 thing. What we need to know is where the /boot/grub/menu.lst file is, whether on /dev/sd1 /dev/sda2 /dev/sda3 etc ... if you chose a separate partition for /boot then it may have been the /dev/sda101:22
geniiSchuenemann: Just back up what you have and tinker is my recommendation01:22
ubuntu__there is no sd1, sda3, sda1 or anything01:23
Schuenemanngenii, what is tinker?01:23
geniiSchuenemann: To try some other values there than 100 or 96, etc. Perhaps go to 75 and see if any noticeable difference01:23
terran4000>_>01:24
terran4000Nexano: compiled without issue01:24
Schuenemanngenii, ok, I'll do that01:24
Nexanothen what am i missing? :>01:24
terran4000remove the folder and stuff01:25
geniiubuntu__: So then the menu.lst most likely on /dv/sdb2   so from livecd to do  mount /dev/sdb2 /someplace    then nano /someplace/grub/menu.lst01:25
terran4000untar to a new dir01:25
ubuntu__alright01:25
terran4000then01:25
terran4000./configure01:25
terran4000and when you do "make"01:26
terran4000stick it up on pastebin01:26
wesleycan you not set Konqueror as default file browser ?01:26
ardchoille!dolphin01:27
ubotuDolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.01:27
Schuenemanngenii, this has no effect, I changed to 76 and it's EXACLY the same01:27
geniiSchuenemann: And you exited to login then did ctrl-backspace or else restarted entirely the x server? If no change then likely ubuntu is overriding someplace :/01:29
geniiSchuenemann: Does the login screen seem different at all?01:29
genii(disproportional, etc)01:29
Schuenemanngenii, I went back to login screen01:29
Schuenemannno, I didn't see any difference01:30
geniiSchuenemann: when at login after logging out o ctrl-backspace to make X reload new values01:30
ubuntu__genii:  how would i change it to boot to sdb3?01:30
geniiubuntu__: Look for lines in it that are sdb2 and switch then to sdb301:31
Nexanofor some reason terran4000 it just compiled fine now01:31
Schuenemannbrb the01:31
terran4000Nexano: I need a stiff drink.01:31
Nexano:P01:32
* genii hands terran4000 a cofee with some whiskey in it01:32
* terran4000 sniffs it and passes it onto Nexo. 01:32
* Nexano chugs01:32
terran4000Thanks but I don't do tea and rum01:32
Nexano:<01:33
Nexanoanyone want a free zen microphoto mp3 player?01:33
Nexano:>01:33
terran4000No, but I would like to have your sound working already01:34
Nexano:p01:34
notvdoes gutsy come with a c compiler out of the box?01:34
Nexano"I`ve probably lost more patients then you`ve treated." - Dr.Zoidberg.01:35
geniinotv: the package build-essential is not installed by default, but easy enough to add01:35
wesleya free mp3 player?01:36
Nexanoterran4000: no sound >_>01:36
Nexanoim almost ready to give up allready01:36
notvgenii is that alls i needs?01:36
geniinotv: For most compiling, yes01:37
terran4000Nexano: honestly, I have no clue.01:37
genii!compile | notv01:37
ubotunotv: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)01:37
terran4000It could be that some kernel module was left out01:37
notvim using it for a c class01:37
notvim sure its nothing fancy yet01:37
terran4000or something was compiled wrong somewhere down the line .....01:37
terran4000Just for kicks, try the new kubuntu testing live cd01:37
terran4000and see if you get sound out of that01:37
terran4000and a older kubuntu live cd01:37
terran4000see what comes of them01:38
notvgenii will my programs run the same on whatever compiler the teacher uses?01:38
geniinotv: Then the build-essential package should be enough for most programs you would be making/using01:38
geniinotv: Yes, if standard code then the compiler doesn't matter01:38
notvthanks01:38
geniinotv: np01:39
Schuenemanngenii, ctrl + backspace doesn't seem to do anything01:40
geniiSchuenemann: OK. Then the system is drawing it's defaults from another place and not from there.01:40
Schuenemanngenii, when I change in kcontrol, it works, but I can only choose 120 DPI there.01:41
SchuenemannI wanted to place 96dpi there01:42
notvgenii are you familiar with a C IDE, and if i dont have one, will i just be coding in a terminal?01:42
geniinotv: For KDE there is KDevelop01:42
geniinotv: Otherwise any text editor is usually sufficient01:43
geniiSchuenemann: I am looking again, have patience :)01:43
nexamac_playing wii, if ya need me highlight nexano :>01:44
ubuntu__how can i boot my computer up without it running "/scripts/init-bottom"?01:44
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Schuenemanngenii, I have to go... thanks02:01
geniiSchuenemann: http://linux-blog.org/index.php?/archives/227-KDE-and-Xorg,-Fonts-and-DPI.html02:01
geniiSchuenemann: OK, seeya later.Might be some useful info on that site for you btw02:02
SchuenemannI'll check02:02
bmk789can any of you recommend software for KDE videoconfrencing?02:05
bmk789skype works, but id prefer something open source and that can do more fps on video02:05
TheWhiteRookwhat kind of luck have people had with installing Beryl on Kubuntu (7.10)?02:14
genii!konference02:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about konference - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:14
geniihmm02:14
ronnie__am I right in assuming that the only benefit to "jack" being a server is to record or play some audio software dosen't take up memory on you computer?02:14
Schuenemanngenii, it didn't change anything... omg02:14
Schuenemanngenii, I ran that command before and after changing and it displayed the same DPI02:15
geniiSchuenemann: I'm fresh outta ideas then at this point02:15
ardchoille!beryl | TheWhiteRook02:15
ubotuTheWhiteRook: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz02:15
TheWhiteRookok, thanx02:16
nexamac_TheWhiteRook: compiz works fine tho02:22
TheWhiteRookyeah, I tried it a bit ago, and then had to do a format and fresh install (though not cuz of compiz), and I had used Beryl in the spring when I was using gnome... and remembered that it worked really well...02:23
Schuenemanngenii, well, thanks02:27
TheWhiteRook!compiz02:28
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion02:28
ronnie__umm ok no in the room that uses midi along with jack?, sometimes I get some kind of pop up saying "jack is being used by another program" sorta warning, can I only use I program with jack at a time?02:28
geniibmk789: Perhaps check out http://www.vislab.uq.edu.au/research/accessgrid/software/debian/02:33
TheWhiteRookholy crap, windows really stick to the bottom panel when the wobbly windows effect is enabled in compiz...02:35
Dr_willisive had the wiggly windows get 'stuck' wiggling befor.. :) i couldent move/click/do anything other then watch them wiggle.. see them jiggle.02:37
NickPrestaAny idea why when I start fusion-icon as myself, fusion icon refuses to dock but when I start it via kdesu, it docks fine?02:37
TheWhiteRookno idea02:38
ubuntu_hi, i see, to be having a problem. i had a problem that i couldnt resolve, so i decided i would make a new partition, put a new install of kubuntu on it then keep the old partition (because it has aboue 100gb of data on it) and i could just use it as my /home directory and have the new partiton for the OS only. so i installed it, and now it wont boot up. it keeps booting up to the old OS (on the old partiton) how can i fix this?02:38
TheWhiteRookany idea why the window I click on doesn't come to the foreground unless I click on the title bar (with compiz)02:39
Bra_Wearer_SamueI am a guy and love wearing push up bras02:42
Bra_Wearer_SamueVisit your local men wearing bras message board today!02:42
Bra_Wearer_SamueI am a guy and wear a bra as often as I can and out in public all the time02:42
Bra_Wearer_SamueVisit your local men wearing bras message board today!02:42
Bra_Wearer_SamueBra wearing is amazing and I am a guy02:42
Bra_Wearer_SamueI wore a bra out in public to the mall today under just a t-shirt02:42
Bra_Wearer_SamueI love when my bra straps project through the back of my shirt.02:42
Bra_Wearer_SamueI am a man who would like to wear a bra. I need no support! Thanks, Ron02:42
Bra_Wearer_SamueCheck out my bra wearing questions on Yahoo! answers02:42
Bra_Wearer_SamueVictoria's Secret employees help fit me for the right bra every time i shop there even though I am a male02:42
Bra_Wearer_SamueI am a guy and wear a bra as often as I can and out in public all the time02:42
limacwell02:42
Bra_Wearer_SamueMy name is Samuel and I LOVE TO WEAR BRAS.02:42
Bra_Wearer_SamueEven though I am a guy I ask the Victoria's Secret employees if I can try on bras in the fitting rooms and they always say yes02:42
NickPresta!ops02:42
Bra_Wearer_SamueCheck out my bra wearing questions on Yahoo! answers02:42
ubotuHelp! Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild, jussi01 or ardchoille!02:42
Bra_Wearer_SamueMy name is Samuel and I LOVE TO WEAR BRAS.02:42
limaci think we get the point02:42
Bra_Wearer_SamueEven though I am a guy I ask the Victoria's Secret employees if I can try on bras in the fitting rooms and they always say yes02:42
Bra_Wearer_SamueI am a guy and love shopping at Victoria's Secret for bras02:42
Bra_Wearer_SamueI wore a bra out in public to the mall today under just a t-shirt02:43
NickPrestaThanks Jucato02:43
NickPrestaand stdin02:43
stdinchanserv lag :p02:43
NickPrestaheh02:43
Jucatohmph02:43
Jucato:P02:43
limacwell02:43
limachow do u do that?02:43
ronnie__OMG!!  talk bout unrelated ubuntu spam! haha02:43
LjLsorry i'm lagged02:43
stdinheh02:44
Jucatopfft...02:44
n8k99that's two nights in a row for that guy02:44
TheWhiteRookCan't say I've ever had spam like that02:45
ronnie__so no kin answer my questions, guess no one in here into music (midi programs) no prob maybe it's just the wrong time in here :)02:46
ubuntu_hi, i see, to be having a problem. i had a problem that i couldnt resolve, so i decided i would make a new partition, put a new install of kubuntu on it then keep the old partition (because it has aboue 100gb of data on it) and i could just use it as my /home directory and have the new partiton for the OS only. so i installed it, and now it wont boot up. it keeps booting up to the old OS (on the old partiton) how can i fix this?02:47
XadViowhats up peaople02:48
* genii imagines the Victorias Secret employees having a good laugh02:49
geniironnie__: What sort of things did you want to do involving midi?02:51
geniironnie__: at commandline, apt-cache search midi|more     produces many programs midi-related02:53
biovore!rosegarden02:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rosegarden - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:53
ronnie__genii I just was trying to use the sounds I found off the web with my midi keyboard, hmm is "speciman" a good sampler to do this?02:54
geniironnie__: Not sure how you'd go about exporting it from the computer02:58
jimmy51hello, should SHIFT+Backspace kill KDE?02:59
geniijimmy51:  ctrl-shift-backspace03:00
ptfd9100how do you fix the "kfmclient-kde4 openProfile webbrowsing" problem03:00
jimmy51genii:  i know that one... it restarts KDE03:00
jimmy51genii:  if i hit shift backspace, KDE just crashes......  only wallpaper and mouse icon visible03:00
geniijimmy51: The answer then to the question "should SHIFT+Backspace kill KDE?" is no03:02
ronnie__I use an M-audio usb plug with my midi keyboard to connect to the computer, it does seem to read it, i just probably dont have it conneted in options choices, ill try & try again, : )   thx anyhow,03:02
jimmy51genii:  ok, i've got a problem then.  i just wanted to make sure it's not normal behavior before i look into the issue03:03
geniironnie__: Some music ppl I know swear by the app timidity but I haven't used it03:03
jimmy51thanks!03:03
ronnie__hmm  ok ill check out that,thx, not installed at the moment cause I thought it was for karaoke, hehe03:04
ronnie__later room....  : )  : )03:05
geniijimmy51: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/shift-backspace-kills-x-server-123293/ may have what you need03:06
geniibah they left03:06
XadViohi im back03:08
ptfd9100how do you fix the "kfmclient-kde4 openProfile webbrowsing" problem03:08
XadVioi've got to go again03:11
XadViobrb03:11
ubuntu_hi, i see, to be having a problem. i had a problem that i couldnt resolve, so i decided i would make a new partition, put a new install of kubuntu on it then keep the old partition (because it has aboue 100gb of data on it) and i could just use it as my /home directory and have the new partiton for the OS only. so i installed it, and now it wont boot up. it keeps booting up to the old OS (on the old partiton) how can i fix this?03:15
thomas_newbie__I have a server on my machine and my mother is being a pain and is saying she is really scared that a hacker will break in, or a virus through my server and access her computer and destroy it....should I be worried?03:19
geniithomas_newbie__: maybe get some tips on herdening your server in #ubuntu-server channel03:24
geniithomas_newbie__: But I'd say generally your mother doesn't have much to worry over.03:25
jjesseok i'm having problems with my networking via knetworkmanager, i changed it to manual and now i can't select any other wireless connections, how do i bring that back?03:28
ganjamaniaccool03:30
jjesse!knetworkmanager03:31
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up03:31
ganjamaniac!knerd03:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about knerd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:31
ganjamaniac!nvidia03:31
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:31
ganjamaniac!distributed-net03:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about distributed-net - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:31
ganjamaniaci got a problem using dnetc with mdns03:32
ganjamaniacthey are somehow incompatible03:32
Jay-Oh-Enhow do i start over with everything without reinstalling kubuntu03:33
ganjamaniacturn back the time or something03:33
Jay-Oh-Enshut up03:34
enderunless you backed up the system...I think you are hosed, unless you mounted your /home directory to its own partition03:35
Jay-Oh-Enit is03:35
enderthen just reinstall and keep the partitions and don't format home...why do you need to start over?03:35
Jay-Oh-Enhome is its own partion03:35
Jay-Oh-Encause my computers been slow lately and i dont know whats causing it03:36
Jay-Oh-Enlike when i type03:36
enderchecked system processes?03:36
Jay-Oh-Enit goes slow03:36
Jay-Oh-Enyeah03:36
Jay-Oh-Enin htop03:36
Jay-Oh-Enbut nothings taking up anything03:36
Jay-Oh-EnSysinfo for 'Scrap-me': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: AMDAthlon643000+ at 2100 MHz (4204 bogomips), , RAM: 905/1011MB, 149 proc's, 2.38h up03:36
Jay-Oh-EnSysinfo for 'Scrap-me': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: AMDAthlon643000+ at 2100 MHz (4204 bogomips), , RAM: 905/1011MB, 149 proc's, 2.38h up03:37
Jay-Oh-Enthats my system info03:37
bazhangmay want to get more ram if possible03:37
Jay-Oh-Enits a gig03:37
bazhangso I see03:37
Jay-Oh-Enmozilla seems to be the slowest thing03:37
moparguy98632hello , 2 quick questions03:38
Jay-Oh-Enbesides frostwire03:38
bazhangJay-Oh-En: I would wait for firefox three before doing something drastic03:38
Jay-Oh-Enand i cant get the sound to work for kopete03:38
Jay-Oh-Enwhens that gonna be bazhang?03:38
rishadhi. i want to upgrade to hardy but also run a stable gutsy system. what do i need to do?03:38
enderhave you restarted lately?  looks like something has a memory leak03:38
moparguy98632wahts the Kde command for upgrade?03:38
Jay-Oh-Enender: me?03:38
enderyes03:38
Jay-Oh-Enender: hmm i restart alot03:39
Jay-Oh-Entwice or more a day03:39
bazhanglikely firefox or a torrent client such as azureus03:39
ganjamaniacwacko mips, i have mipsel03:39
ganjamaniacnah frickelfox isn't so fine$03:39
Jay-Oh-Enbazhang: i dont have any03:39
moparguy98632and the other question is what player will play avi Fiels?03:40
moparguy98632its started with a soemthing03:40
ganjamaniaci am messed up with java on frickelfox03:40
moparguy98632avls or soemthing?03:40
ganjamaniac!java03:40
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.03:40
ganjamaniac!multiverse03:41
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:41
ganjamaniac!firefox java03:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about firefox java - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:41
ganjamaniac!firefork03:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about firefork - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:42
antorogonhello03:43
ganjamaniachmm ubuntu is using a OLD hell libmdns from 200503:43
ganjamaniachmm what a crap03:43
Jay-Oh-Enhow do i check if a i have a memory leak03:44
Jay-Oh-Enor can somebody help me make my cpomputer faster03:44
ganjamaniacput the computer into a bathtube03:44
ganjamaniacif you see some blubbs you have a memleak03:44
bazhangganjamaniac: cmon that is not helpful03:45
bazhangJay-Oh-En: use a lighter browser, get some more ram, or wait for firefox three; those are all options available now03:46
Jay-Oh-Enbazhang: what would you suggest as a lighter browser03:48
Jay-Oh-Eni dont gewt it tho my computer was fast as heck when i forst installed03:48
dthackerJay-Oh-En: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179540 may help you.  Disclaimer: I have not tried this myself.03:48
bazhangJay-Oh-En: it is likely a memory leak from firefox--even the beta is much lighter--as to other alternatives, there are plenty in the repos--you can try some out03:49
rishadhi. sorry to ask again but i want to upgrade to hardy but also run a stable gutsy system. what do i need to do?03:49
bazhangrishad: dual boot or on two different computers03:50
geniiJay-Oh-En: If you use a torrent client of some sort make sure you don't keep seeding torrents indefinitely. This causes horrible slowdown that seems like memory leak03:50
ganjamaniacwhaetver i got libnss-mdns from debian package repo03:51
Jay-Oh-Enhow do i get rid of ubuntu programs that installed on kde03:52
moparguy98632hello, I was wondering if I can get the command line that forces the upgrade to begine03:52
bazhangJay-Oh-En: un install them03:52
Jay-Oh-Enthere is so many tho03:53
moparguy98632upgrade!03:53
moparguy98632taht is wierd03:53
Jay-Oh-En!upgrade03:54
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes03:54
bazhangmoparguy98632: you want the factoid?03:54
moparguy98632sure03:54
bazhangsee above moparguy9863203:54
moparguy98632eh ok..eh better yet waht is the command line?03:55
bazhangmoparguy who are you talking to?03:57
bazhanghe left?03:57
ubuntu_what do i need to install to play a .avi03:58
maduservlc03:58
ubuntu_dont you need some sort of restricted drivers03:59
ubuntu_because i cant get kaffiene to play an avi03:59
bazhanginstall kubuntu-restricted-extras ubuntu_03:59
ubuntu_thanks03:59
bazhangno worries :}04:00
ubuntu_E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-restricted-extras04:00
bazhangenable the repos in adept ubuntu_04:01
ubuntu_im on a live cd04:01
bazhang!info kubuntu-restricted-extras04:01
ubotukubuntu-restricted-extras: Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10 (gutsy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB04:01
bazhanguh ok04:02
ubuntu_can you not play an avi on a live cd?04:02
ganjamaniacwhaetve r i move to soyuz04:03
ganjamaniacsovayuz or something04:03
bazhangubuntu never tried04:03
ganjamaniacwho cares about restricted extras04:04
bazhangganjamaniac: people who need support care; this is not a chitchat channel please take it to offtopic04:05
specialbuddyis anyone else having a hard time getting the kde4 RC 2 to work04:07
ganjamaniachey develdoper04:07
specialbuddycan someone help me out with kde404:12
some_dudehow can i extract a file from a .deb file04:12
specialbuddysome_dude, can't you just right click and select open?04:13
bazhangspecialbuddy: you do know that final will be released tomorrow right?04:13
specialbuddyoh really04:13
specialbuddyhaha04:13
specialbuddythat's funny04:13
specialbuddywill it be easier to install04:13
bazhangspecialbuddy: define 'easy'04:14
specialbuddywell this kde4 rc2 doesn't work for me04:14
specialbuddyit loads up and I have a white screen04:14
specialbuddyfollowed the instructions on the kubuntu site04:15
some_dudeno04:15
specialbuddyI'm not totally new to doing this stuff04:15
specialbuddywhere did you download the .deb file04:15
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bazhangit is pretty graphics intensive--can your system handle it specialbuddy04:15
specialbuddyprobably04:16
bazhangokay..04:16
specialbuddygeforce go 7600, core 2 duo 7200 2 gb ram04:16
specialbuddyis that not good enough?04:16
bazhangmore than enough--I got it going on much less in fact specialbuddy04:17
specialbuddyI have had beryl and compiz working so it will probably work04:17
bazhangcertainly04:17
specialbuddysome_dude, are you still having problems04:17
specialbuddyso kde4 is going to be released for sure in 2 days?04:19
bazhang1/11/2008; two days for some, one day for others :}04:21
specialbuddyI hope it's not hard to install04:21
knicI have a thinkpad x60s and I cannot properly enable the external video port for 1280x1024, can someone help me04:23
moparguy98632eh, um, i need the update command for kde...eh somthing simular to the apt get command used in ubuntu..or do i just get the update mannager?04:24
ubuntu_!kubuntu-restricted-extras04:25
moparguy98632!update04:26
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes04:26
ubuntu_!restricted04:26
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:26
moparguy98632eh I need a refresher  coarse eh hwo again do I log in with super user thingy?04:37
moparguy98632eh wats the commnad line?04:37
bazhangmoparguy98632: sudo?04:37
moparguy98632!super user04:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about super user - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:37
moparguy98632ah yweaht htat one04:37
posingaspopular!konsole04:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about konsole - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:38
moparguy98632so it would be sudo apt get <what ever I need>?04:38
posingaspopularmoparguy98632: that's right04:38
bazhangmoparguy98632: sudo apt-get install packagename for example04:39
moparguy98632ok04:39
bargainmartwasabi04:41
bargainmartis there a way to change the boot string permanently?  I have to edit manually everytime to get kubuntu to load.04:42
stdinbargainmart: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst04:45
bargainmartoh thats simple04:46
ThecksHey, was looking for some help... Trying to connect via FTP (Konqueror, Dolphin) and normally it's fine04:48
ThecksHowever one username has an @ in it, I tried replacing it with + or %4004:48
ThecksAnd at first load it's fine, but any other actions after that04:48
ThecksMake the url into ftp://xxx...x@.com04:48
ThecksIt truncates most of the username and so it doesn't work =/04:49
ThecksAny ideas anybody? :)04:49
ThecksThis sucks, I expect it's a KDE issue as it effects both Konqueror and Dolphin :(04:53
console_jockeyI have kubuntu gutsy installed with the medibuntu repo defined.  I'm trying to get my system to play back mp3's but without success.  I've installed gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 and ubuntu-restricted-extras but still no go. I can open dolphin with audiocd:/MP3 and see the files, but no playback.  What am I missing?04:55
bazhangkubuntu-restricted-extras console_jockey?04:56
console_jockeyarg!  I install ubuntu-restriced-extras....04:57
bazhanggstreamer vs xine iirc04:57
console_jockeyalthough when I try to install kubuntu-restricted-extra's there is nothing more to install...04:57
console_jockeyI installed the gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp304:58
console_jockeynot xine though04:58
bazhangah what is it--libxine1-ffmpeg? memory fails me at the moment04:59
bazhang!find ffmpeg04:59
ubotuFound: ffmpeg, ffmpeg2theora, gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg, libxine1-ffmpeg, moc-ffmpeg-plugin04:59
console_jockeyI appear to have installed libxine1-ffmpeg as well...04:59
bazhangodd04:59
console_jockeyyeah05:00
bazhangusing amarok on gutsy?05:00
console_jockeywhat happens when I try to play an mp3 is the player loads but not time is indicated and of course nothing plays.05:00
console_jockeyamorak on gutsy as well as noatun05:00
bazhangfor all of your mp3?05:01
console_jockeywhen I try to play an mp3 on amarok it prompts me to install mp3 support then doesn't do anything... which is also odd as this is how ive added support in the past.05:01
console_jockeyyes, all mp305:03
bazhangwhat engine is amarok using? you can fiddle with that and see if that helps05:04
console_jockeydont know05:04
bazhangin configuration menu you can adjust it05:04
console_jockeyusing xine05:05
bazhangtry something else and see if that works05:05
console_jockeydamn, I've gotten this to work on other machines.. and it wasn't this difficult.  I recall one of those "ah-ha!" moments when I discovered the right lib but I can't remember what it was now...05:05
console_jockeythere was no other choice in the drop down, so evidently I have installed another engine.05:05
bazhangI would think that the install of ubuntu-restricted-extras is somehow conflicting with kubuntu-restricted-extras; otherwise another engine install might do it--not sure though--this is fairly critical though05:07
console_jockeylet me remove the ubuntu and try to reinstall kubuntu05:08
bazhangdoes xmms or any other media player play them? if so then it is an amarok engine problem05:08
bazhangor just plain old vlc05:09
bazhangjust as a test obviously--not a full time solution05:09
console_jockeyI will check05:18
bazhangworth a shot--this is something that needs to be solved though--probably number two behind web connection imo05:19
console_jockeyxine-ui won't play nor will vlc... something is definitely wrong05:21
bazhangthen not an amarok issue05:22
console_jockeynope, not amarok.  it's just won't let me play mp3's05:22
console_jockeynow, I am getting something from xine stating no demuxer was located to play the mp3...05:24
bazhanghttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=566021 this seems to be somewhat similar05:25
bazhanglibxine1-extracodecs iirc05:25
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console_jockeyok, now I think I'm going crazy.  I had thought maybe I hadn't been playing mp3's on this machine but now I know I have as I found a whole host of files I was playing for the longest time.  I think I may have installed something that broke libxine1.  When I aptitude install libxine1 I get a message that it's broken and then it suggests that I remove a whole host of applications...05:34
bazhangconsole_jockey: so it seems the kubuntu/ubuntu restricted deal may have been it after all, or at least the most likely candidate05:36
sigma_1234i dont use that package. i prefer installing everything manually05:37
sigma_1234so whens the next beta of hardy coming out?05:39
bazhangalpha you mean? that would be in #ubuntu+105:40
intelikeyi have an issue with iptables  any proficent ones here ?05:46
intelikeyi can work through the box one dirrection but not the other way      thus i assume it's an iptables issue05:47
bazhangguarddog is a decent front end for iptables as is (gnome) firestarter--have you tried either of those?05:49
intelikeyQ-collective ???   wasn't that Q-continuim and borg collective ?05:50
intelikeybazhang well no. working cli here.  but i can try them05:50
Q-collectiveintelikey: gotta love the mix ;)05:50
intelikeyheh.  the Q gets assemilated05:51
Q-collectiveuniverse is screwed :p05:51
intelikeyeven species 4872 has had it    no doubt05:52
intelikeyok guarddog installed i'll give it a look see05:52
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catalin1234hello05:56
intelikeywyoh!  you call that a "decent front end for iptables" i'm totally lost there.  i mean completely clueless.05:56
intelikeycatalin123405:56
catalin1234can you uninstall 'konqueror' or is it a must-have for kubuntu05:56
catalin1234i have firefox right now05:56
catalin1234i know how to uninstall it, i just don't know if it's safe05:57
intelikeytest    sudo apt-get remove konqueror05:57
intelikeythat will list anything it is going to take with it.05:57
intelikeyand if it were to only list "kubuntu-desktop" that would be fine.  no loss at all.05:58
catalin1234it said "too many arguments"05:58
catalin1234bash: test: too many arguments05:58
intelikeytest is not part of the command i was sujesting.  that's why the long      gap.05:59
Q-collectivekonq makes a fine filemanager aswell catalin123405:59
catalin1234that's the thing that worries me... i know it's a file manager06:00
intelikeykonqueror is a file manager.  it just does web stuff too06:00
Q-collectivekonqueror is more an umbrella that keeps together kparts ;)06:00
catalin1234but for file manager i always use dolphin06:00
catalin1234question is...06:01
catalin1234if i take out konq06:01
ardchoillecatalin1234: konqueror is just a shell for kio_slaves. It is, IMHO, as safe as any other web browser. I'm very security-minded and I use konq as my default web browser.06:01
catalin1234do the kparts fall apart06:01
bazhangcatalin1234: better to switch to gnome than try and take that out06:01
Q-collectivecatalin1234: well, try it. If it goes wrong then just reinstall konq06:02
intelikeytest#    sudo apt-get remove konqueror06:02
Q-collectivesimple06:02
mohihi all!06:02
mohiI waana to that Kubuntu 8.10 will be LTS or not?06:02
mohi*wanna06:02
ardchoillemohi: No, it will not be LTS06:02
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ardchoillemohi: Oh, 8.10? No idea. But 8.04 will not be LTS06:03
intelikeyardchoille note 8.1006:03
intelikeyyeah...06:03
catalin1234okey06:03
catalin1234thanx06:03
ardchoilleintelikey: Yeah, misread for a sec :)06:03
mohiardchoille: when would it be completely desisioned?06:03
intelikeyok i'm going to try to learn what in sams hill guarddog does...06:04
mohiardchoille: I mean when can we be sure of this?06:04
intelikeymohi some time after 8.4 releases06:04
Q-collectivemohi: when canonical says so06:04
ardchoillemohi: You can be sure that 8.04 will not be an LTS release.. that decision has been made already.06:05
mohiyou mean that despite ubuntu 8.04 is LTS, Kubuntu may be LTS a version after this?06:05
mohiardchoille: and officially? do you have link of news plz?06:06
intelikeyok in guarddog  under the 'zones' tab there are two 'internet' and 'local'  and no way to affect either.  why does it not see the nat ?06:07
intelikeydo i need to add it ?06:07
console_jockeyok, back with the mp3 questions.  I've found that I had install mpg321 which, when I call it from the command line, will play the same mp3's that amarok, xine, noatun and vlc will not... what does that suggest?06:07
vzduchmohi: http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20080107#news <-- 2nd article06:07
john-charlesdose any one know the command to make a simlink to a directory via terminal?06:08
console_jockeyln -s06:08
intelikeyln -s source/dir/ link/name06:08
console_jockeymore specifically ln -s /path/to/symlink symlinkname06:08
john-charlesthanks06:08
mohivzduch: yeas.. I've seen this... may be something by caninical itself?06:08
vzduchmohi: if you read the article, you haven't missed https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2007-December/002099.html06:09
* intelikey goes for firestarter to see if it makes anymore sense...06:09
mohivzduch: its just a mailing list! I need news! I'm one of the admin members of ubuntu-ir and need a official news, I have to answer the questions in forums truely!06:10
Q-collectiveintelikey: imho there is no really good iptables frontend out there06:10
Q-collectiveit's really one of thos areas where usability lags behind06:11
intelikeyQ-collective yeah.   guarddog certainly isn't one.06:12
dthackermohi: that message in the mailing list is from a Canonical employeee.  It's accurate, and if you read it, you'll see why the decision was made.06:15
console_jockeywhy would a utility like mpg321 be able to playback mp3 files but not any other application i have?06:16
mohidthacker: and I just wanna know your idea about this desision, generally.. ;) ?06:16
dthackermohi: I agree with the decision. The timing is not right for an LTS using KDE 4.06:17
mohidthacker: and what about 8.10? do you like it to be LTS ?06:18
dthackerIf you want to continue this we should move it to offtopic, ;)06:18
mohidthacker: and other question is : "is Kubuntu 8.04 comes with kde4 officially?" or kde3.5 ? or both?06:18
dthackeras of now, both.  but we're still in alpha....06:19
vzduchmohi: you can find all of that in this mailing list thread06:19
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intelikeyheh i try running the firestarter it kickstarts a wizard which asks which device is connected to the internet.   but none are.  so what do i answer to that one ?06:23
intelikeyhave two devices  eth0(192.168.0.0/24)  and  eth1(192.168.1.0/24)   i don't want things from one nat blocked from the other nat.   infact that's the problem that causes me to run guarddog/firestarter to unblock the 0 nat from accessing the 1 nat   ?06:26
bazhangardchoille: nice!06:26
bazhangabout time imo06:26
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intelikeywell from the best i can tell neither of those firewall scripts offer any option remotely close to what i need.06:30
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bazhangsorry intelikey just suggestions; not really my area06:32
intelikeybazhang not blaming you.  just saying they both seem to assume some kind of default setup/need   and make no allowance for a non-default.06:34
sperloso I  attempted to install the nvdia driver, then found the restricted nvidia driver. couldn't install, removed the nvidia I installed  now the video works great, but I seem to have some how removed my sound driver06:34
intelikeyit's as if the writers think.  "if they are setting up any thing iptables related, that means they want to block something."06:34
john-charlesIs there a way to see what the different colors represent on the output of an ls command in the terminal?06:35
sperloany ideas?06:35
intelikeysperlo not unless your audio chip is getting a restricted module06:35
sperloI   tried to lsmod snd-hda-intel and no luck06:36
sperlowell the sound worked fine before I did the restricted driver06:36
some_dudemy sound may or may not be working06:36
some_dudeand what files control the virtual termainls?06:36
sperlowell I got things working well then started on the video driver and now am soundless06:37
intelikeyjohn-charles The environment variable LS_COLORS can06:39
intelikey       influence the colors, and can be set easily by the dircolors command.06:39
intelikeyperhaps a clue-by-four06:39
intelikey<some_dude> and what files control the virtual termainls? <<< ?   what do you need/want ?06:40
mohihow much should I download to have KDE4 in my kubuntu?06:40
monzieHi all06:41
monzieI am having an Acer Aspire 2920 laptop with Kubuntu 7.1006:41
monzieIt has an Intel Extreme x3100 card06:41
monziewhich would be the best graphics driver for such a card?06:41
intelikeysome_dude basicly /etc/inittab assuming that upstart still uses one06:41
some_dudeI thought it was *i guess the old way* where it said vt1= /bin/getty or something like that06:42
some_dudeI'm trying to place a second kdm session vt806:43
intelikeysome_dude yeah should be an "/sbin/getty" linsting for each tty that init activates   but that doesn't exactly "control" them06:43
intelikeysome_dude you don't want that then.   you want /etc/kde/kdm/kdm*06:43
intelikey.conf i think06:44
monziewhich is the best driver for intel extreme graphics cards?06:44
intelikeyassuming kdm   if gdm  then /etc/gdm/gdm.conf06:44
monziethe "intel" or the "i810" driver?06:44
some_dudeI need to edit the /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc file i think06:44
mohihow much should I download by adept to have KDE4 in my kubuntu?06:44
intelikeysome_dude yeah kdmrc    guess so06:45
noaXessgood morning folks... was up today?06:45
some_dudeI'm not sure if I should be trying to edit the ServerVTs line or the StaticServers ?06:46
some_dudeIt would be nicer if kdm ran on VT7, then did a transfer to VT8, 9, 10 for each new session06:47
intelikeyit should/used to06:48
mohihow can I find out spesific permissins a user have?06:48
intelikeyby default i mean ^06:48
intelikeymohi groups06:48
mohiintelikey: by konsole ?06:49
intelikeymohi permissions are not set to a user but to the individual inodes06:49
intelikeymohi yes06:49
mohiintelikey: oh! tanx! worked! ;)06:50
mohiintelikey:  how much should I download by adept to have KDE4 on my kubuntu?06:50
intelikeymohi sorry i don't even really understand the question, and if i did probably couldn't answer it.06:50
* intelikey is using the LTS06:51
DreadKnightmohi: you mean what to download in order to have kde4?06:51
mohiI mean I wanna have kde4 on this system! I wana have it istalled by adept and want to know how much does it download from internet to install it!06:52
DreadKnightmohi: around 200 mb the most i think06:52
mohiDreadKnight: oh! tanx!06:53
DreadKnightmohi: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members-kde4/+archive06:53
stdinI'd wait a while if I were you06:54
DreadKnightmohi: but that is still rather old compared to source.... kde4 release is tomorow06:54
mohii see06:54
DreadKnightmohi: wait a day or to... then "sudo apt-get install kde4" :D06:54
DreadKnighttwo*06:54
DreadKnightthe PPA is even broken since last update :|06:55
mohiDreadKnight: ;)06:55
DreadKnight:)06:55
mohiDreadKnight: dou you think kde developers when would make kde4 on kubuntu ready? or maybe a live disk?07:00
Jucatomohi: kde developers don't make distro packages. that's what distro developers/packagers do. :)07:00
Jucatoand yes, there will be JKDE 4.0 packages released ASAP... so please be patient for a little while longer07:01
DreadKnightmohi: #kde4-release-party  the official kde4 release is friday... you'll find the packages in the ubuntu/kubuntu repository tomorow or so07:01
mohiJucato: oK! them... ? when do we have kubuntu live disk with kde407:01
DreadKnightmohi: also, kubuntu 8.04 will ship with kde4 :D07:02
Ownerdoes Dell Wireless 1395 work on kubuntu?07:02
Jucatomohi: not entirely sure on that one. perhaps in Kubuntu Hardy (8.04) already07:02
mohiDreadKnight: boy! i wanna downloas sooner!07:02
mohi*doenload ;)07:02
DreadKnightmohi: on a new kubuntu 8.04 milestone for sure :)07:02
mohi*download! wtf!07:02
sigma_1234im getting video thats a bit jerky. what can i do to smooth it out?07:02
DreadKnightmohi: compile from svn then :D07:03
JucatoDreadKnight: I don't think so...07:03
DreadKnightJucato: don't think so about what? :D07:03
Jucatoperhaps in the Beta or RC, but not the alphas07:03
DreadKnightJucato: oh yeah :)07:03
JucatoDreadKnight: hardy milestones/alpha releases07:03
DreadKnightJucato: the alpha still has kde307:03
sigma_1234im streaming da videos over a wireless network07:04
Jucatounless it has changed, there will be 2 Kubuntu Hardy versions. one with KDE 3.5.8 (or 3.5.9) and one with KDE 4.007:04
sigma_1234isnt kubuntu hardy alpha 3 due out today?07:04
DreadKnightsigma_1234: is it? :D hmm.. i'll check about it.. perhaps will include kde4 ^^07:05
sigma_1234yeah the release schedule says 10 jan07:06
Jucato[08:20] <corevette> will KDE4 be in alpha 3?07:06
Jucato[08:23] <Riddell> corevette: no07:06
JucatoDreadKnight: ^^^^07:06
sigma_1234which is today07:06
Jucato(that was what I was referring to by "don't think so" earlier)07:07
sigma_1234kde4 would only be in it if the alpha was released tomorrow07:08
stdinsigma_1234: nope07:08
DreadKnightJucato: xD mrrr07:09
DreadKnightsigma_1234: this things take planning and time ;) next milestone for sure07:09
DreadKnightand work :D07:09
sigma_1234so when will kde4 appear in the hardy alphas?07:10
stdinwe'll see how the 4.0.0 release is first, then decide07:11
jasmin_why do i get this error checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables07:14
stdin!b-e07:14
* stdin slaps ubotu 07:15
stdininstall "build-essential"07:15
Jucato!ping07:16
Jucatobot down! bot down!07:16
sigma_1234how do i check dma is enabled on my hard drives?07:28
jussi01sigma_1234: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA07:30
stdin!test07:33
UbotwoFbiled.07:33
sigma_1234how did da bot die?07:33
stdinubotu's just having a rest, Ubotwo's here to take the slack07:34
* jussi01 hugs stdin 07:35
sigma_1234lol. didnt know bots needed 2rest07:35
stdinif ubotu comes back just /remove Ubotwo (if I'm not around)07:35
stdinsigma_1234: ubotu works hard, he deserves a rest :)07:36
sigma_1234stdin: is hardy alpha 3 out today?07:36
sigma_1234so true. he has certainly taught me alot :)07:36
JucatoUbotwo: part07:37
* stdin points sigma_1234 to > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyReleaseSchedule <07:37
Jucatoomg! sorry07:37
jussi01stdin: sure07:37
jussi01lol07:37
Jucatosorry! I didn't know I still had power :/07:37
stdinUbotwo: whoami07:37
Ubotwostdin: stdin07:37
stdinthat's how you knwo07:38
stdin*know07:38
* Jucato didn't know that either :P07:38
Tm_TUbotwo: whoami07:38
UbotwoTm_T: I don't recognize you.07:38
sigma_1234stdin: it says 10th jan. but there isnt even a wiki page 4it yet07:38
n8k99Ubotwo: whoami07:38
Ubotwon8k99: I don't recognize you.07:38
Tm_TUbotwo: but you should, I am the Overseer07:39
UbotwoTm_T: Error: "but" is not a valid command.07:39
tininhey, what's a good wifi detection and conection application?07:39
stdinsigma_1234: then it's due today, wait and see. it'll be a nice surprise07:39
sigma_1234tinin: kwifimanager07:40
tininthanx sigma_123407:40
sigma_1234lol ok. just weird the wiki page is usually up way before it gets released07:40
sigma_1234no prob07:41
Jucatosigma_1234: it has always been like that07:41
sigma_1234my video is jerky but not that much. just enough 2b irritating. what could be the problem?07:43
Tm_Tsigma_1234: 2b?07:43
sigma_1234to be. sorry im chatting on a cellphone07:43
stdin'[ [ 2b ] || ![ 2b ] ]'07:44
Jucato!u07:44
UbotwoUnless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..07:44
ActionParsniphey all08:00
* jussi01 runs..... nooooooooo :P08:01
* ActionParsnip waves frantically08:01
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apparlehi08:05
ActionParsniphi apparle08:05
apparlewhat is the command to know the contents of selection buffer08:06
ActionParsnipmade me laugh. Check Bug #1for Ubuntu to fix (ongoing) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/108:06
UbotwoLaunchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed]08:06
Tm_TActionParsnip: ?08:06
ActionParsnipJust made me laugh :)08:07
Tm_Tmmmm, ok08:07
apparleardchoille: are you there08:07
ActionParsnipits fairly tongue in cheek08:07
ardchoilleapparle: I am08:07
apparleardchoille: do know the command in konsole to know the contents of selection buffer08:08
ActionParsnipJust looked at the new stuff in hardy. xorg.conf ease is a great new featue :D08:08
ardchoilleapparle: No, If I did I would answered your question the first time you asked it :)08:09
ActionParsnipapparle, do you mean the copy buffer?08:09
apparleardchoille: and the contents of clipboard08:09
ActionParsnipapparle, ready for pasting...08:09
apparleActionParsnip: I did not mean that. But it would also serve my purpose08:10
ActionParsnipapparle, man klipper (i'm guessing here, googling)08:11
apparleActionParsnip: I know klipper08:12
ardchoilleapparle: If you're using klipper: dcop klipper klipper getClipboardContents08:13
apparleI want to replace the contents of 'clip' by the contents of clipboard in this command "wn clip -over"08:13
apparleardchoille" Will this do "wn $(dcop klipper klipper getClipboardContents) -over08:14
Tm_Tapparle: dcop klipper klipper getClipboardContents08:14
Tm_Tbahhhhhh08:14
Tm_Tardchoille: murrr08:14
ActionParsnipapparle, http://www.usenet-forums.com/linux-general/94164-command-line-access-clipboard.html08:14
ardchoilleTm_T: :)08:15
[ifr0g].08:16
apparleTm_T: Will this do "wn $(dcop klipper klipper getClipboardContents) -over"08:16
test1-ba-pdginhi, hello all08:16
test1-ba-pdginI have a big problem with apt-get system as follows:08:16
test1-ba-pdginI downlowded all of repository of ubuntu from archive.ubuntu.com and made a local repository for my own but08:17
test1-ba-pdginafterrunning the "apt-get update" command it tells me:08:17
test1-ba-pdginE: Wow, you exceeded the number of versions this APT is capable of.08:17
Tm_Tapparle: try ;)08:17
test1-ba-pdginhow can I solve this problem ?08:18
apparleardchoille & Tm_T : How do you know such complicated commands  :o08:19
ardchoilleapparle: kdcop :)08:19
Tm_Tapparle: I just know (well, by tabfilling in konsole08:20
Tm_T)08:20
apparleTm_T: what is tabfilling08:20
Tm_T!tab | apparle08:21
apparleardchoille: kdcop08:21
Ubotwoapparle: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.08:21
apparleardchoille: what is kdcop?08:21
Tm_Tapparle: kdcop is application08:21
ActionParsnip!kdcop08:21
UbotwoFactoid kdcop not found08:21
Tm_T!info kdcop08:21
UbotwoPackage kdcop does not exist in gutsy08:21
ActionParsniphttp://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/kdcop/index.html08:21
test1-ba-pdginhi, is not there anyone thinking about my problem ?08:22
ardchoilletest1-ba-pdgin: It could be that the folks looking at their screen right now don't have an answer08:22
apparleanother question, when I use  kdialog -msgbox how to display more than 1 word08:22
jussi01!night08:23
UbotwoIt's the middle of the night in the US and Europe, and surrounds.  This means that a lot of people are likely asleep, therefore there are less potential people who can answer your question.  Please be patient, and consider asking at a time when more people will be awake.  This is particularly true in the quieter channels.08:23
ActionParsnipapparle, does\ this\ type\ of\ thing\ work08:23
apparleardchoille: :)08:23
ActionParsnipapparle, "or try maybe some quotes"08:24
Tm_Tapparle: can you do "foo foo foo" ? ;)08:24
ardchoilleapparle: kdialog --msgbox "this is a test"08:24
Tm_Tardchoille: murrr08:24
apparleno I have a command " kdialog -msgbox $(wn word -over)" . Only one word of text returned by "wn word -over" is displayed08:25
apparleTm_T and ardchoille: help me with this also08:26
ActionParsnipapparle, you could replace the spaces with "\ "08:27
ActionParsnipapparle, i dont know what input kdialog uses for spaces08:28
apparleActionParsnip I want to display the data returned by "wn word -over" in a dialog box\08:28
ActionParsnipapparle, I get it man. you may have to mess with it to put some \ characters before the spaces. or maybe "s at ehe start and end of the string08:29
ActionParsnipapparle, i'm googling away (work is dead so I have time)08:30
apparleardchoille: Can you do this :I have a command " kdialog -msgbox $(wn word -over)" . Only one word of text returned by "wn word -over" is displayed08:31
ActionParsnipapparle, looks like it needs quotes08:31
ActionParsniphttp://fosswire.com/2007/12/21/making-kde-dialogue-boxes-appear-from-shell-scripts/08:31
ardchoilleapparle: Please do not hilight people unnecessarily. If we know an answer to your questions, someone will speak up08:32
ardchoilleapparle: And, whatever "wn" is, I don't have it.08:32
ActionParsnip!wn08:33
UbotwoFactoid wn not found08:33
ActionParsnipardchoille, http://www.linuxcertif.com/man/1/wn/08:33
apparleardchoille: I am extremely sorry. wn is dictionary which returns a paragraph about the word. wn is wordnet08:33
apparle!wordnet08:34
UbotwoFactoid wordnet not found08:34
apparlehow to choose a mirror for a download?08:34
apparleActionParsnip: do you get anything08:39
ActionParsnipapparle, i think the return from wn needs "s round it. Can you somehow inset " characters at the start and end of the string then kdialog it?08:41
apparlenope08:42
apparleActionParsnip: see if yu can find it08:42
apparleanybody else here knows how to insert " in a command as text08:43
ActionParsnipapparle, will do. brb08:43
apparlebrb?08:44
tomahasamoothello08:44
apparlehello08:44
tomahasamootapparle: thank you, I was beging to think I had a problem w/ chat08:45
ardchoilleapparle: Try this: kdialog --msgbox "$(uptime)"08:45
Lynoureapparle: \"08:45
ardchoilleapparle: Uptime output has spaces in it, but the $(uptime) is quoted08:45
tomahasamootkdialog --msgbox "$(uptime)"08:46
ActionParsnipapparle, is that any good. I'm at work on XP atm so I can't test08:47
apparlethanks people I will try it when home. I am doing all this to  put a simple hotkey based gui to a CLI dictionary08:47
apparleActionParsnip: Me too08:47
apparlebye people08:47
apparlebyebye08:47
ActionParsnipapparle, peace08:47
apparlethanks for all the help08:47
tomahasamootdoes kubuntu use cron, anacron, or some other system?08:48
tomahasamootI noticed that root doesn't have a crontab08:48
ActionParsniptomahasamoot, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto08:48
ardchoilletomahasamoot: cron and anacron are both installed. And root won't have a crontab until you create one08:48
tomahasamootardchoille: is which one is prefered on kubuntu systems?08:49
ActionParsnip!cron | tomahasamoot08:50
Ubotwotomahasamoot: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm08:50
ardchoilletomahasamoot: The "Description" in  man anacron  explains the differences08:50
athenahello...this is off topic, but i want to connect to another channel, but don't know how to configure my program to do so (it's from Ubuntu)...can anyone help?08:51
athena(i'm an IRC newbie)...i did find a web page on the channel...but don't know what to do with it08:51
ActionParsnipathena, try /join #<channel name>08:51
magickal1 /join #channel08:52
athenanobody there...go figure...but thanks!08:52
ActionParsnipathena, np :D08:52
athenawhere would i go for an open discussion of distro's (unfortunately Kubuntu doesn't work well for me...adept an me seem to have an allergy)08:53
athenaoh...some people are there...thank you08:54
ardchoilleathena: You can also use synaptic, it's a gui front-end to APT (like adept) and some folks like it better:  sudo apt-get install synaptic08:54
ActionParsnipi only use apt08:55
arturohey everybody i want compiz-fusion =s where download? =S09:04
ardchoille!compiz | arturo09:05
Ubotwoarturo: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion09:05
arturo=O09:06
sebastian^good morning folks :)09:24
sigma_1234!kmldonkey09:27
UbotwoFactoid kmldonkey not found09:27
jamiihi, I'm having trouble turning off 3-button emulation09:48
jamiiI've already deleted the 3-button line in xorg.conf but that doesnt seem to have an effect09:48
ActionParsnipjamii, did you restart x?09:49
jamiiYep09:49
ActionParsnipjamii, tried rebooting?09:49
jamiiSeveral times - I'm debuggin an X driver09:49
jamiiWill try rebooting09:49
jamiibrb09:49
irinaHi all =)09:50
ActionParsniphi irina09:50
Jucato!ping09:51
ubotupong09:51
Ubotwopong09:51
irinaэ..э...э........ русские есть? =)09:51
ActionParsnipirina, english please09:51
ardchoille!ru | irina09:51
ubotuirina: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke09:51
irinaспасибо брат09:52
ardchoilleirina: you're welcome :)09:52
jamiiNo luck. There doesnt seem to be anything in the KDE system settings either. I wonder where else it could be enabled?09:53
irina!ru | irina09:54
ActionParsnipjamii, i'm guessing you editted Option "Emulate3Buttons" "False" in mouse input section09:54
ActionParsnipjamii, in you xorg.conf09:55
jamiiparsnip: Ah, no. I just deleted the line. Will try setting it to false.09:55
ActionParsnipjamii, worth a go :). then restart x. i think removing it does thesame but its nice to be explicit09:57
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onishidatohey guys, how can i save the setting in xterm??09:58
jamiiparsnip: Didnt work. Humbug.09:59
onishidatois there anyone here??09:59
ActionParsnipjamii, darn09:59
ActionParsnipsup onishidato ?09:59
onishidatohow can i save a setting in xterm??09:59
jamiiparsnip, I'm going to go grab a USB mouse and see if its system wide.09:59
ActionParsniponishidato, in what way?10:00
ActionParsnipjamii, nice one10:00
Jucatoxterm has settings?10:00
onishidatono not in xterm10:00
onishidatoi mean10:00
* ActionParsnip scratches his head10:01
ActionParsniponishidato, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/66 (?)10:01
onishidatoi try to set up a program with xterm, but it always return to the old setup when i restart my PC10:01
onishidatothat's my problem10:02
ActionParsniponishidato, is that what you mean?10:02
onishidatoyeah10:03
onishidato:D10:03
jamiiparsnip: its not on for the usb mouse, but it is on for my touchpad. So either its turned on for the touchscreen or the fpit driver is actually sending middle click. I'll have a fiddle with fpit and map middle to right.10:04
onishidatocan you help me??10:04
ActionParsnipjamii, maybe its in bios?10:06
ActionParsniponishidato, what do these xterm settings configure exactly?10:06
ActionParsniponishidato, you need to edit ~/.Xresources10:08
ActionParsniponishidato, http://www.google.co.uk/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1_____ENUK248&q=%7E%2F.Xresources&btnG=Google+Search&meta=10:09
onishidatook thanks Action10:10
ActionParsniponishidato, np10:10
onishidatolet me check it10:10
onishidato:D10:11
onishidatohow can i stop skim from working, it always automatic start even if i have closed it???10:13
ActionParsniponishidato, ps -ef | grep skim10:13
ActionParsniponishidato, kill the most left hand process number10:14
onishidatocan you explain more??10:14
onishidatoi don't know what to do:(10:14
ActionParsniponishidato, type the commands in konsole10:15
ActionParsniponishidato, it will show you the processes named skim10:15
ActionParsnipthen you will kill them10:15
athenahi, i was on here earlier...i was told there was a way to put synaptic on instead of Adept (the main reason i don't use Kubuntu). My past efforts at this have failed putting me in dependency hell. I just reinstalled...can someone help me with this?10:16
onishidatohow can i kill?10:17
ActionParsniponishidato, kill <process id>10:17
athenagosh had me worried there for a sec (coming in on the middle of how do i kill?)10:17
ActionParsnipathena, just use sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade10:17
ActionParsniponishidato, its the leftmost number10:18
athenai don't know how to use the apt system very well10:18
athenaor what to put in...for the synaptic manager10:18
ActionParsnipathena, you dont need to :)10:18
onishidato1000      6285  5584  0 17:17 pts/1    00:00:00 grep skim this is what i got10:18
athenaso just go to the terminal and write that In?10:18
ActionParsniponishidato, then its not running10:18
athenaand i will get synaptic on the system10:18
ActionParsnipathena, sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade10:19
onishidatobut sometime it auto start without my permission10:19
onishidato:(10:19
ActionParsniponishidato, is there a symlink to it in ~/.kde/autostart ?10:19
athenaok, i'm doing this10:20
ActionParsnipathena, those commands will update your repository knowledges and thendownload any updates you may need10:20
athenaso how does that get me the synaptic manager?10:21
ActionParsnipathena, if you want to install software just type sudo apt-get install <program>10:21
athenais it in adept...because when i got it there before...i went into dependency hell10:21
ActionParsnipathena, sudo apt-get install synaptic when its done :)10:21
ActionParsnipathena, apt resolves deps for you :)10:21
athenahmm...wish i had known this a while ago (always learning)10:21
ActionParsnipathena, do you need updates by any chance?10:22
athenayes, i just installed.10:22
athenaso it's taking it's time updating at the moment10:22
ActionParsnipathena, ok cool, get those then sudo apt-get install synaptic (if its not already installed)10:22
ActionParsnipathena, see how you go from there10:22
athenaalso i need to add some new repositories to get my system working (drivers and such)10:22
jamiiparsnip: 3button seems to only be for the touchpad. I've fixed the touchscreen to send right clicks now. Thanks for the help10:23
athenaok thanks!10:23
jamiiNow I just need to find out who the fpit maintainer is10:23
ActionParsnipathena, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list10:23
ActionParsnipjamii, np dude, glad its somewhat better :)10:23
Jucato(there's also a nice GUI for that in Adept Manager, Adept menu -> Manage Repositories)10:24
emilsedghJucato: isnt there any plan to improve Adept's UI?10:25
ActionParsnipJucato, i always hust edit the file10:25
emilsedghJucato: except Inkscape, i only miss Synaptic in kde :(10:25
Jucatoemilsedgh: there are. mornfall is working on it again, and yuriy is helping him with it.. but mostly for kde410:25
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emilsedghJucato: YES!10:25
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emilsedghJucato: better, who cares about kde3 anymore :P10:26
* Jucato does10:26
Jucatoand so will most of the KDE-using world :P10:26
* ActionParsnip ActionParsnip does10:26
Jucatoanyway, not sure if there will be anything in store for Adept in KDE 3...10:27
Jucato(most probably nothing entirely new)10:27
Tm_Temilsedgh: I do, I care about both of them10:27
* emilsedgh doesnt, its stable, keep bug fixes for a few years and then leave it...10:27
Jucatobug fixes is part of caring10:28
Tm_Temilsedgh: aye, that's good if you can think that way, I can't ;)10:28
Tm_TJucato: big part10:28
bazhangany word on what distro will be using the kde4 final release?10:28
ActionParsnipI just wait for whatever updates I get.10:28
Tm_Tbazhang: we?10:28
Jucatobazhang: any distro that will provide packages :)10:28
Tm_TActionParsnip: I just try to ruin all updates you get10:28
bazhangjucato Tm_T thanks!10:29
* Tm_T hides10:29
JucatoKubuntu, openSUSE, Fedora (they have a crazy plan), Debian, etc, etc, etc,10:29
ActionParsnipTm_T, haha cheers :)10:29
emilsedghJucato: are you on kde4 now?10:29
Jucatonope10:29
Athena18well it will be a while before i find out who things work...updating will take 3 hours10:29
Athena18two sorry10:29
Tm_Temilsedgh: umm, why asking?10:29
Athena18i've heard horror stories about kde4....is it really non-customisable...or was that a bad rumour10:29
_Shade_alpha3 is about to take off today. When should i expect any announcement about it?10:29
emilsedghTm_T: just wanted to know, what about you?10:29
* Jucato points Athena18 to Beineri's post: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3174 for some "warnings"10:30
Tm_TAthena18: well it's not "ready" in that sense, but yes it has more customisation options than GNOME10:30
Tm_Temilsedgh: I have both KDE 3 and 410:30
ActionParsnipdue to it not being "ready" i will not be "upgrading"10:30
* Jucato would love to put "KDE 4.0 != KDE 4" in the topic at some point...10:30
Athena18well...what i heard was you could only have one panel at the bottom...i love my three panels with my own icons!10:30
Tm_TJucato: haha10:30
* Jucato points ActionParsnip to the link as well10:31
Tm_TActionParsnip: I use them both, they don't rule each others out10:31
Tm_Tanyway, this is slipping to chitchat10:31
_3speakin of kde 4... any good? worried about destroying my system.. unsure if its worth it compared to kde 3.5.8 .. .and how does it go with compiz??10:32
Tm_T_3: you don't need compiz with it, but yes you can have them both10:32
emilsedgh_3: its Stable now, but not that customizable.also a few applications are not ported yet and you should use 3.x version10:32
ActionParsnipTm_T, I'm a very casual user. I'm not to bothered for prettys or stuff like that.Chat and browse, yeah I need the latest gumf10:32
Athena18thanks for the link...doesn't look as bad as i heard (or more like it will improve in all likelyhood10:32
Jucato_3: it's good as a point 0 release can be. why would it destroy your system. it has it's own fancy effects10:32
onishidatoActionParsnip: how can i know it?10:32
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ActionParsniponishidato, know what?10:33
Athena18but eventually it will be customizable with the 4.110:33
Athena18?10:33
JucatoAthena18: it *will* improve10:33
Tm_TAthena18: and more after it, and so on10:33
onishidatoActionParsnip: is there a auto start link?10:33
Athena18good, i was loathing giving up KDE...but i thought i might have to!10:33
bazhangbest to head to #kde for these kind of questions?10:34
ima-n00bok thanks (was _3 but it wasnt meant to be that nick)... i was meaning stabiltiy / apps ported / customisation wise10:34
Athena18and yes i knew it was more or less in BETA but still it sounded like a huge change10:34
JucatoAthena18: hopefully... remember, the current "customizable" version you are using is 3.5... that's 5 major releases after 3.0... so just imagine how much KDE 4 will progress as you go from 4.0 to 4.1 to 4.2 , etc10:34
Athena18 ok10:34
ima-n00bso all my questions were answered.. thanks :)10:34
emilsedgh4.0 is so stable now, its no more 'Beta Quality'10:34
Athena18join channel #cc10:34
Athena18oops...how do i join another channel (still new to IRC)10:35
ActionParsnipTm_T, if I just chat and browse and I'm not too fussd for prettys then I'm not getting KDE4 until its in repos and I accidentally pull it down with my automatic updates10:35
onishidatoActionParsnip: how can i know if there is a auto start link to my program??10:35
bazhangAthena18: /join #channelname10:35
Athena18thanks...!10:35
mueslixmorning... i just tried to install the latest alpha and i noticed something rather weird (but absolutely reproducable): i have two nvidia cards in my system. after running the installer for a few minutes, suddenly all monitors go blank (and tell me that there's no signal)10:35
bazhangno worries :}10:35
mueslixit's not happening at some magic point during installing, but seems rather time-based10:36
ActionParsniponishidato, check ~/.kde/Autostart, there will be a symlink file in there10:36
bazhangmueslix: hardy?10:36
mueslixanyone ever experienced something similar10:36
mueslixyes10:36
bazhang#ubuntu+1 mueslix10:36
Tm_TActionParsnip: yes, isn't it great to have choices ;)10:36
ima-n00boh, i just realised another question... apps that are built for kde 3.. they wont have been ported yet (eg ktorrent, kvirc, smb4k)10:36
mueslixbazhang: i assumed it's a general issue, nothing kubuntu specific10:36
Tm_Tima-n00b: btw, KDE 4.0 isn't BETA10:37
mueslixi'm not looking for a magic fix (yet), i'm just wondering if anyone experienced something similar, maybe even with gutsy10:37
ActionParsnipTm_T, yeah it is but i just want no viri / spyware system. I can do stuff with my system but when i get back from work I cant be bothered10:37
mueslixi did have similar issues once during the filesystem check at bootup. if the system doesn't load the nvidia drivers quickly enough the cards go haywire10:37
ima-n00bTm_T: cool.. but i would still need kde3 to run kde3 apps under kde4 right?10:38
Tm_TActionParsnip: ok, now you lost me, but prolly wasn't anything important10:38
Tm_Tima-n00b: IIRC no10:38
Tm_Tima-n00b: or perhaps10:38
Jucatoima-n00b: you don't need a full kde 3 session for that10:38
Jucatoima-n00b: you can run kde 3 apps in a kde 4 session and vice versa10:38
ima-n00boh.. ok.. that makes things easier... sort of lol10:39
ima-n00bhmm... may have a fun few days ahead of me... my kubuntu install isnt done by the traditional method... so it kinda takes longer10:40
XBehaveis theyre a good program to see partition usage? and how can i empty my swap or atleast temporarily shift it to  a file!10:40
onishidatoActionParsnip: where can i find it??10:40
ima-n00bXBehave: in a terminal type df -h10:41
emilsedghXBehave: free10:41
Jucatoor Filelight10:41
Jucatoemilsedgh: free is for memory usage though10:41
emilsedghJucato: oh sorry10:41
emilsedghwhats wrong with me today!10:41
emilsedghXBehave: there is a kdiskfree application too, i think10:42
XBehavethx df -h is all i needed10:42
ima-n00bsorry to be a pain again... another one about kde4... are the names that you use to install the packages the same as kde3.. so for example to install kde4 base you type sudo apt-get install kdebase ???10:43
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Jucatoima-n00b: mostly, except they'll have the number 4 (or 5 in the case of kdelibs)10:43
ima-n00bJucato: ok.. thanks....10:44
emilsedghJucato: why kdelibs is 5?10:45
Jucatolong story. Debian wackiness10:45
emilsedghand why its 4 in kde3 series?10:45
_Angelus_guy,,,10:45
_Angelus_nsplugin is crashing on konqueror, and not working  on opera10:46
_Angelus_but firefox is ok...10:46
_Angelus_if i try to remove konq-nsplugin... it remove half of my system10:46
_Angelus_what am  i gonna do? :S format? :S10:46
emilsedgh_Angelus_: format? no, thats not an option10:48
_Angelus_ermmm ... ok emilsedgh,,, do you have another option? please? xD10:50
emilsedgh_Angelus_: no, but im sure formatting is not an option10:51
_Angelus_:/10:51
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_Angelus_so no one has an answer for my troubles? :(11:04
dhqwhen i configure glibc why do i get this error checking the size of long double... configure: error: cannot compute sizeof (long double), 7711:05
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balachmarhow do I turn on the desktop effects in kubuntu? I am just trying out kde...11:19
XBehavecan you resize an active pv?11:22
gladierhey guys - i need a hand getting a adaptec 2940 controller to run synchronously11:25
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waylandbillhello. firefox can have settings locked using firefox.cfg. Is there similar functionality in Konqueror?11:40
XBehaveis there a way to make the pannels above everything? i have a dropdown pannel but if i have an above all window i cant see it11:43
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stmartinhi! I want to ask you, how to change directory (cd) to desktop on the terminal?11:57
bazhangcd ~/Desktop?11:58
ExilantSomething seems to be wrong with my kdes handling of usb mass storage, sometimes they are mounted read-only, often two windows pop up from kde-daemon (gutsy with latest updates), anyone knows those problems?12:01
waylandbillis there a way to lock konqueror settings like firefox's firefox.cfg ?12:07
ActionParsniphey all12:11
Exilantwaylandbill: what do you mean, like chmod u-w ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/konueror.rc?12:13
Exilantor just save it as a profile and being able to restore that?12:14
spaci76hi@ll12:14
ActionParsniphi spaci7612:14
waylandbillExilant: that's not a bad idea. Thanks.12:22
_Shade_where can i expect alpha3 announcement? It's about to take off today according to the release schedule12:23
_Shade_*where=when12:23
bazhang#ubuntu+1 topic12:24
waylandbillExilant: might even be able to change the user that owns the file to root to prevent possible chmod back to writabke12:24
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femiyo dudes linux rocks12:57
agmmy external hdd is not  working12:57
agmcant see it in fdisk -l12:59
agmnot in lsusb12:59
agmanothing happens in var/log/messages13:00
agmeven tried removing ehci_hcd13:01
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waylandbillfemi: preaching to the chior. ;-)13:06
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se7ensince 2 days on 2 different boxes i get Another window manager is already running on screen: 0 after compiz --replace ?????????????13:24
stmartinhow to play subtitle (.sub file) in movie player?13:26
Exilanthm, maybe sth. in the updates was wrong, noticed my compiz doesn't work anymore either13:26
dappermuisstmartin, there's a way to do it with mplayer13:27
dappermuisjust man mplayer and look for the part on subtitles13:27
stmartinhow to download it?13:28
dappermuissudo apt-get install gmplayer13:28
Jucatostmartin: I think there's a way to load Subtitles in Kaffeine (Player menu -> Subtitles)13:29
Jucatothere's also kmplayer :)13:29
stmartinand gxine?13:31
JucatoKaffeine uses Xine13:32
stmartinIt gives me message to write xvinfo13:35
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stmartinit tells me that my card doesn't support xv13:36
posingaspopularamarak also uses kaffeine13:38
Jucatoposingaspopular: you mean amarok uses xine right? :D13:40
posingaspopularyea thats what i mean13:41
posingaspopularit's 7:45am over here, cut me some slack13:41
Jucatosorry, I don't use slackware :)13:41
ActionParsnipsurely #slackware is advisable13:42
Pici!botsnack13:42
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!13:42
* Jucato wonders if ActionParsnip is riding on the joke too... or just didn't get it :)13:42
* ActionParsnip just got here :P13:43
Jucatothen you didn't :P13:43
posingaspopulari said it was early over here, cut me some slack. Jucato doesn't use slackware ;p13:44
ActionParsnipposingaspopular, nice one :D13:45
stickcan enyone tell me how can i play mp3's in kubuntu ?13:45
ActionParsnipposingaspopular, are you EST?13:45
ActionParsnip!amarok | stdin13:45
ubotustdin: Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.7 (1.4.3 for Dapper LTS). Packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok13:45
ActionParsnip!xmms | stick13:45
ubotustick: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs13:45
posingaspopularActionParsnip: central time13:46
jpatrickstick: ^^13:46
stickyes13:46
Jucatojpatrick: now you did it... triggering stdin :P13:46
ActionParsnip!mplayer | stick13:46
ubotustick: mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs13:46
jpatrickJucato: ActionParsnip did it!13:46
ActionParsnipStick, you'll need the mp3 codec too13:47
sticki habe the pplayer ...the problem is that i run it and it says that i don;t have the codec for it13:47
Jucatojpatrick: oh sorry lol13:47
ActionParsnip!codec | stick13:47
ubotustick: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats13:47
JucatoActionParsnip: now you did it.. triggering stdin!13:47
jpatrickJucato: now you did it... twice :O13:47
Jucatojpatrick: I know. stdin's going to kill me (now that's thrice)13:47
ActionParsnipJucato, why?13:47
stickthant it starts to download somenting it sais that he finisht install them ...and to restart Amarok...the the same shit all over again13:47
JucatoActionParsnip: it's more about annoying stdin that it is actually about blaming you (4 times now)13:48
ActionParsnipJucato, hahah keep it up13:48
ActionParsnipstick: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install amarok13:48
ActionParsnipstick, amarok is a standard app in kubuntu :D13:49
sticki'm a noob in kubuntu ...and it's hard for me to understand what yyou are trying to tell me13:50
ActionParsnipstick, when you installed, you got amarok (cos it kicks ass)13:51
stickbut i wont give up ...i'mm full of microsoft shit to the bone ...so ..i'll try to search some documentation13:51
jpatrick!language | stick, ActionParsnip13:51
ubotustick, ActionParsnip: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.13:51
ActionParsnipstick, they dont ship mp3 codecs due to some copyright stuff (i think)13:52
ActionParsnipass = a donkey ;)13:52
ActionParsnipstick: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP313:52
JucatoActionParsnip: nice try... but no :P13:53
ActionParsnipstick, Open Amarok and play an mp3 file. Amarok will ask you if you would like to add mp3 support and then install the libxine1-ffmpeg package13:53
ActionParsnipstick: or in konsole you can type sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg13:54
sticksry my net is crap13:55
stickenyway thx for help13:56
ActionParsnipstick, you got it nailed?13:56
epssihello14:02
ActionParsniplo epssi14:02
stick!codecs14:03
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats14:03
posingaspopularhi epssi14:03
epssiwhen i copy something from a usb stick or cd/dvd, the files have only read permissions on my computer by default. how can i change this?14:03
stick!mp314:03
ActionParsnipstick: in konsole you can type sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg14:03
ActionParsnipstick: that will give you mp3 codec14:03
stickthank oyu14:04
stickyou14:04
stmartinwhy I have "vesa" driver?14:04
TuxOtaku!KDE414:05
TuxOtakuhmm14:05
ActionParsnipstick: all playing now?14:05
ubotukde4 is KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information, please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://tinyurl.com/2gqwmr - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php14:05
TuxOtakuKDE 4 is supposed to be officially released tomorrow, right?14:05
Tm_TTuxOtaku: and?14:05
sticksudo apt-get install libxine1 -ffmpeg14:06
posingaspopularyes TuxOtaku14:06
ActionParsnipstick libxine1-ffmpeg14:06
sticknothing happend14:06
ActionParsnipstick:all one word14:06
TuxOtakuwill it be available from the kubuntu repos tomorrow?14:06
Tm_TTuxOtaku: perhaps, should but who knows for sure14:06
sticksudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg14:07
ActionParsnipstick: yes14:07
Tm_TTuxOtaku: I believe http://www.kubuntu.org will have info in the front page when they are available14:07
Tm_TTuxOtaku: also it will be mentioned in the channel topic here14:07
stmartinhow to change the driver from vesa to nvidia?14:07
zero1hi guys, anyone ever experience laptop resuming after hibernate, then just before you unlock the desktop it hibernates again?14:07
sticksudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg14:07
ActionParsnip!nvidia | stmartin14:08
ubotustmartin: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto14:08
sticknothing14:08
ActionParsnipstick, what message do you get?14:08
stickthat command it doesen't do nothing14:09
stickbut guys ...i have Kubuntu ..all documentation that you gived me is for Ubuntu14:09
ActionParsnipstick: so you type it in a console? Like a "DOS Prompt" window14:09
ActionParsnipstick: apt is the same for all the buntus as well as any other distro using apt14:10
sticki don't have some application taht ubuntu have ..at least i didn't find them14:10
stickoo14:10
zero1hi guys, anyone ever experienced laptop resuming after hibernate, then just before you unlock the desktop it hibernates again?14:10
ActionParsnipstick: i'd do a sudo apt-get update first too14:11
stickthx for you'r pacients(hope i'v speel it right) ActionParsnip14:12
sticki'm from romania ...i understand english ...but my rightin ...:)14:12
ActionParsnipstick np man14:12
ActionParsnipstick: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade14:13
ActionParsnipstick: you getting a tonne of updates now?14:15
sticksudo apt-get install libxinel1-ffmpeg14:16
stickReading package lists... Done14:16
stickBuilding dependency tree14:16
stickReading state information... Done14:16
stickE: Couldn't find package libxinel1-ffmpeg14:16
sticksry for flood14:16
stmartinwhy my driver is "vesa"?14:17
llutz libxine1-ffmpeg14:17
Bauldrickare there any decent visualizations for amarok ?14:17
zero1has anyone experienced a laptop that immediately Hibernates  after Resume finishes???14:17
stmartin!vesa14:17
ubotuvesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x14:17
solussdvesa is 'default'14:17
stmartin!x14:17
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto14:17
stmartinI have nvidia driver14:17
Jucatostmartin: it's the default open source driver if your card wasn't detected properly14:17
stmartinI have nvidia card*14:17
solussddownload it using the restricted driver installer14:17
Bauldrickand I still can't get the track info for cd's with amarok14:17
Jucatostmartin: then you can use either the open source driver (nv) o ruse restricted manager to get the binary nvidia driver14:17
sticki'v runed the comand fosr updates....and ...14:17
stmartinI have the nvidia-glx14:18
stmartininstalled14:18
llutzstick that package is named "libxine1-ffmpeg" not libxinel1...14:18
stmartinIn Synaptic Package Manager14:18
ActionParsnipstick, cool that will make sure your system is fully updates14:18
tzdhi, I would like to know if i need to install any packages on Kubuntu Gutsy to be able to sync Korganizer and my mobile phone (Sony Ericsson k750) please?14:18
Jucatostmartin: have you tried using the Restricted (Devices) Manager? System Settings -> Advanced tab14:19
ActionParsniptzd: http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2007/07/syncing-mobile-phone-and-kontact-via.html14:19
zero1has anyone experienced a laptop that immediately Hibernates  after Resume finishes???14:19
stickdamn ..i have big lag14:20
stickdo i need to have the cd with kubuntu n the cd-rom14:20
stick?14:20
llutzstick: you just have to spell it right14:20
tzdActionParsnip: thanks :)14:21
stmartinwhy I get this message from mplayer "no Xvideo support for your video card available"?14:21
ActionParsnipstmartin,http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35612814:22
ActionParsnipstmartin, did you google any?14:22
stmartinyes14:22
stmartinbut I didn't find it14:22
stickwhat i whanted to know is ...where do i get the updates form...from internet or from the instalation cd of kubuntu14:22
llutzstick: internet14:22
sticki'm not reciving any updates from the internet14:23
ActionParsnipstick: the repositories online14:23
Jucatostick: then your cdrom repository is still probably enabled, blocking the internet repositories14:23
Bauldrickg#14:23
sticksudo apt-get update14:23
stickIgn cdrom://Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1) gutsy/main Translation-en_US14:23
stickIgn cdrom://Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1) gutsy/restricted Translation-en_US14:23
stickReading package lists... Done14:23
stickthat's all that it does14:24
sticknothing more ...14:24
sticki saw cdrom:// ...... that's why i'v ask if i need the origina cd14:25
posingaspopular!paste | stick14:26
ubotustick: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)14:26
stickopz ...did i do something bad ?14:27
Jucatostick: in Adept Manager, go to Adept menu -> Manage Repositories -> Third-party software tab -> uncheck the cdrom line14:27
tzdjust a simple question; if i have a packet installed already and get it once again with the command: "sudo apt-get install packetname" what will happen? Will i mess something up or will the system recognize it's already installed and automatically not install it?14:27
ActionParsniptzd: it will seethe existing one14:28
Jucatotzd: it will say it's installed14:28
tzdActionParsnip: great, cheers!14:28
tzdthx Jucato ;)14:28
posingaspopulartzd: yea what Jucato said. it's okay. it wont break anything.14:29
tzdposingaspopular: Right thanks mate :)14:29
stickok i'v done that14:31
stick sudo apt-get update14:35
stickGet:1 http://archive.canonical.com gutsy Release.gpg [191B]14:35
stickHit http://archive.canonical.com gutsy Release14:35
stickHit http://archive.canonical.com gutsy/partner Sources14:35
stickFetched 1B in 16s (0B/s)14:35
stickReading package lists... Done14:35
posingaspopular!paste14:36
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)14:36
stickso...what now ?14:36
stmartinI did everything and my drivers are still vesa14:38
stmartinshould I change them manually in nvidia?14:38
Bauldrickstick: sudo apt-get upgrade       ......   but what are you trying to do?14:38
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stickif i write ...sudo apt-get udate libxinel1-ffmpeg....will it update the mp3 codec ??14:41
Bauldrickapt-get install libxinel1-ffmpeg14:42
stmartinWhen I get in device manager, my nvidia card is unknown?14:42
stickCouldn't find package libxinel1-ffmpeg14:43
epssiwhen i copy something from a usb stick or cd/dvd, the files have only read permissions on my computer by default. how can i change this?14:44
Bauldricksudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg14:44
Bauldrickspelling14:44
stickPackage libxine1-ffmpeg is not available, but is referred to by another package.14:46
stickThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or14:46
stickis only available from another source14:46
stickE: Package libxine1-ffmpeg has no installation candidate14:46
Darktan_are there any programs for accessing a palm pilot for linux?14:46
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sticki thik i'm cursed14:47
stick:))14:47
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Athena18hi14:48
Darktan_hi14:48
stickso the pckage is not available...now what do i do14:48
stickhy14:48
Athena18I've been told i can put synaptic in as my software manager...14:48
Athena18me and adept have an allergy14:48
Athena18i've finally updated everything...now how do i get it on? just go into adept and download it?14:48
Athena18<stick> how are you cursed?14:49
bazhangsudo apt-get install synaptic14:50
bazhang!info synaptic14:50
ubotusynaptic: Graphical package manager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.60ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 1280 kB, installed size 5932 kB14:50
Darktan_crap, i was just gonna say that14:50
sticklook above ...what it told me about xinel14:50
sticktha package is not available14:51
Athena18before i came on...so i just do that...and it will be my package manager after that (can i get rid of adept...so synaptic will take care of updates and such?14:51
Athena18xine...you might need to be in the non free repositories...they are legal outside the US (generally) but not always in (because of Microsoft patent)14:53
Athena18just like PGP14:53
stickenyway i'm noob ..in kubuntu at least ....maby i did somethig wrong ...i don't know14:53
Athena18i'm used to KDE, just not Kubuntu...what is the problem14:54
Athena18(been using it for over a year...year and half at least)14:54
bazhangstick: did you install kubuntu-restricted-extras?14:54
sticki whant to play mp3 and movies ....14:54
stickif i knew how ...14:55
Athena18you need to add non-free repositories...ubuntu doesn't like them...they need to be added manually14:55
bazhangstick: please answer my question if you want help14:55
Athena18mp3 is not *legal* on linux per say14:55
Athena18(depends on country again)14:55
Tm_TAthena18: depends also who says it14:55
sticki don't know how to install enything man ...i just told you i'm noob...14:55
bazhangstick: are you needing assistance or not?14:56
Athena18so it isn't free...do you have the universe and multiuniverse repositories turned on?14:56
Athena18<Tm_t> yes i agree...14:56
Tm_T!mp3 | stick14:56
ubotustick: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats14:56
Athena18that's the robot isn't it?14:56
sticktm_t14:56
bazhangyea Athena1814:56
stickwhat i't write on thows sitet i't doesent help me14:57
Athena18there ARE ubuntu directories for it (haven't been in ubuntu for a while but i know they are there). Alternatively...older MEPIS one's might be compatible (before 7.0 we used ubuntu repositories)14:57
Athena18do you know how to ADD a repository?14:57
Tm_Tstick: how it didn't help?14:58
bazhangstick: if you need assistance you need to answer questions or do some reading--saying I am a noob will not help you solve your problem14:58
stickbecause ///first i dont have other player beside Amrok...and there it speaks o Xinel14:58
stickno i don't14:58
Tm_Tstick: Amarok uses Xine14:58
Jucatoit's xine, not xinel :)14:58
bazhang:}14:59
Athena18it speaks other languages...as well...likely those are installed just not the one's for MP# (try putting a CD in and you'll see)14:59
stickoky my mistake14:59
Tm_Tplease kids, try be helpful ;)14:59
bazhangTm_T: sorry14:59
JucatoTm_T: I have to emphasize that because earlier he entered libxinel1-ffmpeg, which gave him errors15:00
Jucatojust making sure that if he types a command or a package, it will be the correct one15:00
Tm_TJucato: uuh, that sounds fun then15:00
sticklook man ...i'm from romania ..i understand english but my righting is bad ...if you whant to help me ..ok ...if you whant to joke on me ..that's something else15:00
Tm_Tstick: we all are here to help15:00
bazhangyes stick15:00
Athena18my written french is terrible...but it CAN be read...i can understand your english15:01
stickok...i understant that it is very hard for you to help me ..in specialy i don;t understand al the terms that you use15:01
Jucatostick: your english is fine. but the command line is less forgiving. a single wrong letter can make a big difference. which is how you got an error earlier15:01
Athena18i've had my own frustrations with media...trying to get Kaffeine working can be hard...15:02
Athena18(if you want it to do everything)15:02
Bauldrickstick: tried ... sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras15:02
stickok..than i'v writet ok ..an it saind the package is not available15:02
stickno that i did'n tryed15:02
stickjust a sec15:02
Tm_TAthena18: does "all" here :/15:02
Captain_HaddockEven though my integrated audio is detected as  nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2), my kMix is empty and the tray icon has a glaring x on it. Any idea why?15:03
stickCouldn't find package kubuntu-restricted-extras15:03
Athena18<TM-T> i'm a Cannuck...maybe we write different...then again maybe we don't!15:03
epssistick: open "add/remove programs" from the K-menu and install "kubuntu restricted extras"15:04
Athena18cut and paste it into your command line stick...it worked for me (i'm still setting up my system and want the same stuff)15:04
JucatoI don'tthink has the proper repositories enabled yet...15:04
Captain_HaddockAthena18: I think there's only a "ubuntu-restricted-extras"15:04
Captain_Haddockand a xubuntu, not a kubuntu15:04
* Jucato teaches Athena18 the joys of autocompleting nicknames using Tab15:04
Captain_Haddocknot sure15:04
JucatoCaptain_Haddock: there's a kubuntu15:04
Captain_Haddockok15:04
bazhangCaptain_Haddock: there is a kubuntu as well15:04
Athena18oh, i AM still learning IRC...i don't even know how to talk to someone particularly (i was just typing)15:05
Athena18only recently registered my nick15:05
Jucatonow you know how :)15:05
* Captain_Haddock confirms - there is :P15:05
Jucato!tab | Athena1815:05
ubotuAthena18: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.15:05
Athena18captain haddock is this working?15:06
Athena18nope15:06
Athena18This is what I'll be learning Stick15:06
epssistick: if you cannot find this package, you need to open "edit software sources" in the "add/remove programs" window, and enable "restricted" and "multiverse"15:06
posingaspopularAthena18: you'll pick it up soon enough15:06
bazhangAthena18: type the first few letters then hit tab for the nick15:06
Athena18i figure i will15:06
Athena18just be tolerant!15:07
* Jucato points Athena18 to bazhang's instructions :)15:07
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Athena18i'll go read the instructions...just not this early in the morning...i've cut and pasted the address15:07
Tm_Tepsis_poissa: noooooo15:07
Captain_Haddockany ideas on my sound issues?15:07
stickaham15:07
Tm_Tepsis_poissa: ei awaynickejä kiitos15:08
Jucatogah! I just remembered I need to fix that in add/remove...15:08
Athena18printers can be a killer...it took me 10 days to get mine working on my old system (i think it will be quicker here...the problem was that the normal drivers had to be gotten rid of because it was multipurpose!)15:08
Athena18but then i'm slow on that type of stuff15:09
Athena18don't think my speakers are working yet either15:09
Athena18ok i put in those exact commands for the different repositories...it asked me for my original CD...what does it need off there (it isn't saying...)15:10
Athena18(hold on looks like it's found it...still that is a quirky way of doing things!)15:11
Athena18stick 1. have you tried cutting and pasting the original command and 2. do you still have your CD?15:11
combiniohi, do u know maybe how to connect router under linux ?15:11
Athena18no idea...don't use one15:12
Athena18hello combinio15:12
combinioAthena18: heeeeeeeeello :))15:12
stickok...i'v done the edit souces ...but the thing is i can't install enythig because they are deactivated ...the appear in gray to me..the rest of that application(i have them allready ) i can olny uninstall them15:13
Athena18I'm back...Adept drove me nuts again...but people explained there WAS a way to use Synaptic in KUbuntu (which was what i did with my old distro, but it had other features so i wanted to try moving on)15:13
Athena18but you know i wanted to move...15:14
jussi01Athena18: just install synaptic... I have that at work...15:14
tuxickamazing, so many different interfaces to the same thing15:14
tuxickand they all suck in their own way15:14
Athena18that's what i'm doing...when i did it in the past through adept i ended up in dependency hell and the whole system broke down15:14
Athena18yes, kubuntu is slow...i'm looking for two distro's...this being my slow one but easy to use (mostly)15:15
jussi01Athena18: ok, so install it from the command line, sudo aptitude install synaptic15:15
Athena18Freespire actually has FIREFOX set up to CRASH if you use the adblock!15:15
Athena18every time i used adblock it crashed...otherwise it was fine!15:15
Athena18talk about gall15:15
* Tm_T has everything running fine and fast15:15
SkyblastAtWorkKubuntu is slow?15:15
SkyblastAtWorkNews to me.15:15
Athena18i have an older machine...yes for me it is slow.15:16
bazhangSkyblastAtWork: not really no15:16
iboui have a problem with th function copy/paste. Its only copying the texte i copyed first but doesnt care about the texte i copyed after.15:16
Tm_T!ot | FYI15:16
ubotuFYI: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!15:16
ibouhelp please15:16
tuxickAthena18: don't run kde on old machines15:16
tuxickunless you add ram15:16
Athena18I have a half gig of ram15:16
tuxickthat should do15:16
Tm_Ttuxick: no FUD there15:16
SkyblastAtWorkI have half a gig her on my work box15:16
Athena18i tried using an xfce system....and well it was confusing15:16
SkyblastAtWork1.7GHz Celeron... crappy machine, but it works fine15:16
SkyblastAtWorkIt's no demon, but neither is gnome on it15:16
tuxickTm_T: it's realistic, kde is heavier than a simple windowmanager like WM15:17
Athena18this isn't bad, slow is relative...much faster than windows...I"m a p3 933mh gal15:17
jussi01Athena18: ok, cool. have you installed synaptic now?15:17
Tm_Ttuxick: I know, but still it's FUD15:17
tuxicknot intended as such15:17
Athena18the machine is still putting on all sorts of stuff...although synaptic is on it's way15:17
Tm_Ttuxick: I'm long time WM user15:17
Athena18WM?15:17
tuxickthen you know the difference ;)15:17
tuxickwindowmaker15:17
jussi01Athena18: :)15:17
Athena18(i'm still looking for a second distro?)15:18
Tm_Ttuxick: I do, and KDE runs just fine even with 64 MB ram15:18
jussi01!ot15:18
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!15:18
stickok...i'v done the edit souces ...but the thing is i can't install enythig because they are deactivated ...the appear in gray to me..the rest of that application(i have them allready ) i can olny uninstall them15:18
Tm_Tjussi01: krhm15:18
tzd!sync15:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sync - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:18
tzd!bluetooth15:18
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup15:18
tuxickTm_T: that's UNFUD :)15:18
Athena18UNFUD?15:18
tuxickdunno what to call it15:18
stickso ...can enyone tell me why i can't install eny program beside the ones i have ?15:19
Athena18KDE is much faster than any comparable MS product...it's more a matter of what you are willing to accept15:19
tuxickAthena18: maybe you have kde configured with all bells and whistles on?15:19
Athena18have you tried seeing if you have a problem with your repositories generally stick...guys what is the apt for checking your system generally?15:19
stickha ?15:19
Athena18<tuxick> actually not very many, that is why it runs ok...i just like the feel of it being real fast!15:19
tuxickhow fast is CPU?15:20
Athena1893315:20
tuxickand which part is slow anyway?15:20
jussi01stick: could you repeat your problem exactly for me?15:20
Athena18someone told it to me yesterday...i needed to use it to update my system...could be causing the problem stick15:20
Tm_TAthena18: tuxick: like to join #kubuntu-offtopic ?15:20
* genii puts on a pot of coffee15:21
stickso ...i'v runed add/reomve programs....15:21
* posingaspopular puts on a cup of genii15:21
Athena18joined15:21
bazhanghe cant play mp3 with amarok jussi01; needs to add kubuntu-restricted-extras15:21
geniiposingaspopular: Hiya :)15:21
stickthe window appears..in left with the categories ...accesibilitis ..development ...and so on....15:22
Jucatoactually I think he needs proper repos...15:22
bazhangthat too15:22
* Jucato is a bit too tired to think how to go about this though :(15:22
stickfor example i go to system...i have the list with the programs15:23
Athena18are you in the terminal stick?15:23
Athena18where you can only type in letters and numbers nothing to click15:23
jussi01stick: follow these instructions exactly. go to kmenu -> system -> adept manager -> adept menu -> manage repositories and then make sure all the boxes are ticked15:23
stickit begin to dnload something15:25
jussi01stick: and so it should15:26
jussi01stick: when its done, search for kubuntu-restricted-extras in the adept that you have open, then click it, click install, then click apply15:27
sticknow i'm upgrading distribution15:27
stickto 7.1015:27
stickright on ...mi programs are finely activated ..i can install them15:29
stickok...now i must install kubuntu restricted extras no ?15:29
jussi01yes, with the -'s15:30
stickwith what ?15:31
stickman this si osome ...so many programs15:32
stick:D15:32
jussi01stick: thats why the search is there15:33
stickies...i'v write xine...but it's deactivavted15:34
jussi01stick: did you find kubuntu-restricted-extras ?15:35
sticki can't install it ...shoul i run the command now ....sudo apt-get15:35
stickyes ...al the other programs are activated now ..beside Xine15:35
jussi01stick:in kmenu->> system -> konsole type: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-restricted-extras15:36
stickE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)15:37
jussi01stick: close adept15:37
jussi01then try again15:37
stickright on ...love du15:38
jussi01stick: its installing now?15:38
stickyup...15:38
stick:D15:38
stickthank you very much15:38
jussi01stick: excellent. come back if you have any other issues :D15:39
jussi01no probs15:39
stickoky doki15:39
stickhop i wasn't a pain in the ...ss15:39
jussi01!stupid | stick15:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about stupid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:39
jussi01grr15:39
stick=))15:39
jussi01stick: there are no stupid questions ;)15:39
stickyeah...only stupid people15:40
jussi01!dumb | stick15:40
stick=))15:40
ubotustick: The only dumb or stupid question is the one not asked. Please do not tell people off for asking something, just because it seems simple or obvious -- we discourage this attitude in all our channels.15:40
jussi01:)15:40
stickvery nice15:40
Captain_HaddockIs there a recommended way to force Linux to redetect my hardware?15:41
stickwhell i'm only at the begining of a long jurny15:41
jussi01Captain_Haddock: which hardware in particular?15:41
Captain_Haddockmy sound card mainly15:41
Captain_HaddockI moved a Gutsy hard drive from one machine to another.15:42
Captain_HaddockThe sound card was previously detected fine on a fresh gutsy install.15:43
jussi01Captain_Haddock: Im not certain of the proceedure there but i suspect it will include modprobing the new module for the card15:44
Captain_HaddockActually, the (integrated) card is being detected fine, I believe. KMix just doesn't detect it, nor do I get any sound.15:44
Captain_Haddockaplay -l gives "aplay: device_list:204: no soundcards found..."15:47
jussi01Captain_Haddock: have you looked under system settings - sound system - hardware tab?15:47
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jussi01Captain_Haddock: what kind of s/c is it btw?15:48
Captain_Haddockjussi01: it's set to autodetect - there's no mention of my hardware though.15:48
Captain_Haddock20:00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)15:48
Captain_Haddockjussi01: ^15:48
jussi01Captain_Haddock: hmmm, I think that was one of the intel hda problematic ones, have a look at15:49
jussi01!intelhda15:49
ubotuFor fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto15:49
jussi01but check for sure, i cant remember for certain15:49
Captain_Haddockjussi01: Looking. This is an AMD board though.15:49
jussi01Captain_Haddock: ahh... maybe no then...15:50
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Captain_Haddockjussi01: what would I modprobe?15:50
stickhe he ...i'm listening mp3'd thank's a lot guys!15:51
jussi01Captain_Haddock: you need to find out the appropriate module for it, but I am by no means certain that will fix it15:51
jussi01stick: great to hear :D15:51
Captain_Haddockjussi01: any idea how to go about finding the associated module?15:52
Captain_Haddock!modprobe15:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about modprobe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:52
nosrednaekimCaptain_Haddock: one moment.... I have an nvidia desktop.15:52
jussi01Captain_Haddock: juust having a look15:52
Captain_Haddockthanks jussi01, nosrednaekim15:52
thewhitepelicanwhere can I find the md5sum for gutsyy?15:53
jussi01thewhitepelican: here: http://www.nic.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/gutsy/15:54
thewhitepelicanty15:54
nosrednaekimCaptain_Haddock: the module is called snd_intel8x015:55
Captain_Haddocknosrednaekim: this is a Gigabyte amd board :(15:56
nosrednaekimCaptain_Haddock: AND.. take a look at "lshw" to see if your sound device already has a an accosiaced driver15:56
nosrednaekimCaptain_Haddock: yes, I know, but thats what my AMD/nvidia desktop uses for the kernel module,15:56
nosrednaekimmy AMD/ATI laptop actually uses the hda_intel driver so don't let the name bother you15:57
Captain_Haddocknosrednaekim: thanks. lshw gives the following output for audio: http://pastebin.com/m242e1d4315:59
wraithmagihere's one u guys probably haven't heard in a while....15:59
wraithmagiI have an old zip 100 usb drive that I'm trying to create a bootable disk from...16:00
nosrednaekimCaptain_Haddock: ok, run "sudo modprobe snd_intel8x0"16:01
wraithmagiI don't have a win 95/Me box and the norton zip tool won't rune under wine.16:01
wraithmagiany ideas how to create a bootable zip 100 disk?16:01
Captain_Haddocknosrednaekim: does the unclaimed imply that there's no associated driver?16:01
nosrednaekimCaptain_Haddock: yeah16:02
geniiwraithmagi: I have done that, but was able in my bios to make the zip drive appear as a hd and not a floppy16:03
geniiwraithmagi: Otherwise you may want to format it as a bootable dos disk and then use syslinux on it16:04
wraithmagigenii:  The box I need to boot from zip has an internal zip250 in a modular bay... it's an older lappy.16:04
wraithmagigenii: ok... how to format as bootable dos?  Norton rescue won't work with wine and I've got XP on my other 2 boxes?16:05
wraithmagigenii: I try format j: /s and says invalid parameters or something like that... is there a way to make bootable dos zip thru Kubuntu?16:07
geniiwraithmagi: I'd suggest to get a boot disk image for 98 or so from bootdisk.com, then also the dos driver for the zip and put it on there. Boot to that floppy, format the zip drive from dos cli. then put the syslinux on it, along with whatever images you want it to load16:07
wraithmagik. I'll check to see if there is a dos driver for it.16:08
geniiWork needs me, leaving a few minutes but not /away16:13
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wraithmagigenii: u know where to get a DOS driver?16:16
geniiwraithmagi: Let me look16:16
stickok...i wanted to ask you somenthing about my laptop16:16
geniiwraithmagi: http://home.netcom.com/~deepone/zipjaz/dos.html seems useful here16:17
wraithmagigenii:  yeah, but no usb support.... what about setting up a virtual machine in vmware and just running the norton app from there?  I do have a win 95 disk somewhere...16:19
Captain_Haddocknosrednaekim: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_nforce_1.23.html also lists hda_intel.c16:22
Captain_Haddocknosrednaekim: so I would do a sudo modprobe hda_intel.c ?16:22
geniiwraithmagi: linux sees the drive already? If so as what device16:23
stickwhen i close my laptop lid...it enters in stand by ....16:23
nosrednaekimCaptain_Haddock: without the c16:23
nosrednaekimand the .16:23
stickcan enyone tell me how to dezactivate the option16:23
wraithmagisda116:23
nosrednaekimstick: right click on the little battery in the system tray16:23
sticki know it's somewere in power managment16:23
Captain_Haddocknosrednaekim: FATAL: Module hda_intel not found.16:24
nosrednaekimCaptain_Haddock: snd_hda_intel16:24
Captain_Haddocknosrednaekim: snd_intel8x0 <-- I tried it with this and it gave no output nor any errors16:24
nosrednaekimCaptain_Haddock: ah... then try lshw again16:25
stickies ..i have suspens ...hibernate...Cpu policy ...restore ..an Quit16:25
wraithmagibut when I goto system settings/disks it just shows as sda.16:25
stickyes*16:25
Captain_Haddocknosrednaekim: still "Unclaimed" :(16:25
nosrednaekimCaptain_Haddock: then try snd_hda_intel16:26
Captain_Haddocknosrednaekim:  FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel not found.16:26
nosrednaekimhmm not the right menu... try left clicking on the icon16:26
stickAt cpu option i have 3 options dynamic ...powersave and performance16:26
stickooo16:27
stickok16:27
wraithmagigenii:  you be on later?  I'm going to be late for class...16:27
stickdone16:28
geniiwraithmagi: I'll be on today another 5 hours16:28
wraithmagigenii:  cool... gotta go... I'll probably be back on in like 2 hrs. or so.16:28
nosrednaekimCaptain_Haddock: weird.16:29
geniiwraithmagi: OK, I'll be around. Don't be late for your class :)16:29
Captain_Haddocknosrednaekim: it resolves OK on your box?16:29
nosrednaekimCaptain_Haddock: might try searching for that sound chip and "ubuntu" on google16:29
nosrednaekimCaptain_Haddock: yup..i'm using it right now.16:29
wraithmagithx!16:29
Captain_Haddocknosrednaekim: FYI - it is detected fine on a fresh Gutsy install. This is an upgraded install on a different hard drive that I've had to move over to this system.16:29
Captain_HaddockSo, I'm not sure what's going on.16:30
nosrednaekimCaptain_Haddock: yeah, well, sometimes things like this happen when you move things from one computer to another.16:31
mith__hi all! can anybody help me with lazarus?16:31
nosrednaekimmith__: he's already alive.... he don't need no help.16:31
Captain_Haddockheh16:31
nosrednaekimXD16:31
bazhanghaha16:31
Captain_Haddocknosrednaekim: you think I can do anything with the drivers available for download here? http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_nforce_1.23.html16:31
Captain_HaddockThere's no special section for Debian or Ubuntu in it though.16:32
Captain_HaddockJust RHEL, Fedora, Suse and SLES16:32
mith__thanks but it needs the "Free pascal source directory"....where can i find it?16:32
nosrednaekimCaptain_Haddock: i'm sure the drivers are already in the kernel.... you just have to find out which exact module16:32
colorlessblueideIs there anyone who might be able to help with networking via a router?16:32
Captain_Haddocknosrednaekim: I see.16:33
Captain_Haddocknosrednaekim: Thanks for your time mate. Much appreciated!16:33
nosrednaekimmmhm, NP16:33
mith__how can i download the "Free pascal source directory" ? and where?16:35
stmartinwhy the subtitle is not shown in the kaffetine?16:35
BluesKajcolorlessblueide, a local network LAN , with windows on another pc16:35
BluesKaj?16:35
colorlessblueideBluesKaj: Basically a laptop running kubuntu 7.04 (currently) via the ethernet connection on a Linksys router.  I have some set-up questions which I haven't been able to figure out the answer on as of yet.16:36
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BluesKajok, colorlessblueide , so just dhcp to the router ?16:39
E_mEdoes KDE applications such as Kopete rely on KDE for network settings? because when ever im at home Kopete and karegator refuses to work (using my wireless connection). but when im in the office plugged in to a lan connection it works fine.16:39
mith__how can i download the "Free pascal source directory" ? and where?16:39
E_mEthe thing is, Firefox and other non-kde applications appear to work fine16:39
colorlessblueideBluesKaj: Yep.  Not sure how properly to set up router or kubuntu.  Get an error after ifup eth0 of "chmod: cannon access /etc/resolv.conf.dhclient-new': No such file or directory."   Also have gateway question on the router setting.16:40
geniimith__: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2174&package_id=2252&release_id=53822516:40
nosrednaekimE_mE: thats a problem with knetworkmanager and to a greater extent a kde service called KDED16:40
E_mEnosrednaekim: how can i resolve it?16:41
E_mEnosrednaekim: or where can i find out how to resolve it?16:41
nosrednaekimE_mE: try killing the KDED process16:42
nosrednaekimor, if you don't use knetworkmanager, kill it16:42
geniimith__: You want either the amd or i386 fpc deb from there.16:42
E_mEnosrednaekim: can i turn the services off permently?16:43
mith__genii: thanks i try it now16:43
Jeroihow can I get np: playing song with amarok and konversation?16:44
BluesKajcolorlessblueide, right click on the knetworkmanager, check the wired network box, then manual configuration , checking the network interface ,routes and domain name for the internal IP16:45
zeEezAre there going to be KDE 4.0 final packages for gutsy when it comes out in 2 days ?16:46
nosrednaekimzeEez: yep16:48
colorlessblueideBluesKaj: Thanks.  Checking.  There have been some changes since last I looked, which appear to be taking.  Standby.16:48
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zeEeznosrednaekim: cool, thanks16:48
nosrednaekim!kde416:49
ubotukde4 is KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information, please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://tinyurl.com/2gqwmr - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php16:49
nosrednaekimthey will be in that repo ^^16:49
lascari don't like the way it looks :-(16:49
colorlessblueideBluesKaj: Yes, it's now picking up the DNS, etc., from the router, and has the correct gateway setting.  What I think it was doing was having its DHCP requiest serviced by a *remote* router on my homeLAN.   But . . . still don't understand the resolv.conf.dhcp-client error.16:49
ryan__lascar: Then fix it. :)16:50
stmartinI  installed 100 programs for video, and still can't go subtitles work?16:50
lascarshould be able to work with vlc16:51
colorlessblueideBluesKaj: Also, are you familiar with router settings?  I'm more of an apps programmer than a systems type, and some of this is a bit mysterious.16:51
Saillehi16:52
lascarryan_: you misunderstand.  It's clunky.  Period.16:52
lascarkde 3 = best for me.16:52
Sailleis it possible to start xampp without sudo, just as normal user?16:52
BluesKajcolorlessblueide, trying the CLI option commands to setup a LAN with dhcp and routers is no longer necessary ...the knetworkmanager does a good job recognizing the router/gateway16:53
Captain_Haddocknosrednaekim: http://pastebin.com/m5913a95d <-- lsmod seems to hint that the hda_intel driver is already being used :o16:54
BluesKajcolorlessblueide, I just setup the router for various apps , otherwise I don't fool with the automatic settings , if the router is giving proper access to to the net.16:55
colorlessblueideBluesKaj:  Yes, I hadn't noticed it before.  Thanks for pointing it out.   Do you have a recommended source of info for my router settings ( two Linksys WRT54Gs spread throughout the house).16:55
Captain_Haddockcolorlessblueide: damn annoying how the DHCP and subnet masks are hard coded in those admin panels :/16:56
nosrednaekimCaptain_Haddock: not hda_intel... but the 8x0 is working.. or at least modprobed16:56
* Captain_Haddock just wanted to say that16:56
BluesKajhmm, 2 routers eh , not familiar with such a setup, colorlessblueide... I use just one router with 2 pcs and a laptop (all wired)16:56
Captain_Haddocknosrednaekim: I see. I think I'm going to give up for today. Thanks again.16:57
nosrednaekimCaptain_Haddock: ok.16:57
nosrednaekimsorry:(16:57
Captain_HaddockBut it's still great that I can just move my HD around from one system to another and still use Linux :)16:58
Captain_Haddockcolorlessblueide: what is the issue exactly.16:58
Captain_Haddock?16:58
BluesKajcolorlessblueide, and I'm not familiar with Linksys setups16:59
colorlessblueideBluesKaj: Sorry, had to answer the door.  Basically, the setup is . . .17:00
colorlessblueideBluesKaj: One wireless/ethernet router hooked up to cable modem.  A second wireless/ethernet router hooked in another room.  The wireless (in part) connects the two, so that the remote room computer can get out to the internet.  Does that make sense so far?17:01
llutzcolorlessblueide: so the 2nd wireless-router needs to be in WDS mode to act as a repeater17:02
Captain_Haddockcolorlessblueide: shouldn't you be using a repeater instead of another router?17:02
Captain_Haddockor that17:03
* Dr_willis was just thinking that. :)17:03
BluesKajcolorlessblueide, wireless isn't my forte', so i'll hand you over to Captain_Haddock or some other heavy hitter in the wireless area17:03
BluesKaj!wireless17:04
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs17:04
colorlessblueideEr, what is "WDS mode"?   :-)     It says "Wireless Mode:  AP" , and "Wireless Network Mode:  Mixed"  on the remote.17:04
llutzcolorlessblueide: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_Distribution_System17:05
BluesKajrouters are cheap , so why bother with repeaters :)17:05
Dr_willisLess confguration hassles?17:05
Dr_willis:)17:05
colorlessblueideBluesKaj: Thanks for the robohelp & wiki references.  Let me read those before bothering anyone else.  BTW, the local and remote wireless both seem to have more-or-less the same settings.17:05
llutzmany linksys work fine with 3rd-party firmware, which do all these nice new things ;)17:05
colorlessblueideBluesKaj: Also, the remote is hooked via ethernet to a computer.   I guess that seemed like a good idea at the time.17:06
llutzcolorlessblueide: the pcs in room #2 are connected wireless  to the 2nd router?17:06
llutzcolorlessblueide: then your 2nd router should act as wireless-client17:07
colorlessblueidellutz: No, the PC in room #2 is connected via cable to second router.17:07
llutzcolorlessblueide: ya, i just saw it too late ;)17:07
llutzcolorlessblueide: what brand is the router?17:08
colorlessblueidellutz: Linksys  WRT54G17:08
llutzcolorlessblueide: consider dd-wrt or tomato as firmware on that, it should do what you need. i don't know if the original firmware will17:09
kalorin`never heard of tomato17:09
llutzcolorlessblueide: www.dd-wrt.com, www.polarcloud.com/tomato17:09
llutzkalorin`: tomato ftw! :)17:10
kalorin`dd-wrt works very well for me on my linksys WRT-54G17:10
llutzkalorin`: tomato 1.13 on wrt54gl here, just... yessss17:10
kalorin`I went that route because the crappy default firmware woudln't allow static IP assignment17:10
colorlessblueidellutz: The current firmware (a friend hooked it up for my kids when I was out) works as far as that goes; it just looks as if, when a dhcprequest is made via ethernet to router#1, it is being supplied by router#2 (via wireless).  Strange17:10
llutzkalorin`: that's why i did too17:11
colorlessblueidellutz: I suspect my friend did a firmware change, as he's wont to do such sort of things.17:11
llutzcolorlessblueide: seems as there's kind of "network-seperation" active, which separates wlan from ethernet17:12
llutzcolorlessblueide: maybe check router-settings17:12
geniikalorin`: I agree about dd-wrt, I use it myself.17:13
colorlessblueidellutz: I have both router webadmin pages open in a browser right now, trying to figure out what settings should be.17:13
fenderblub17:17
sigma_1234anyone know where i can check why kubuntu is suddenly jerking when i play video files?17:20
sigma_1234ive had kubuntu on that laptop for a few months and only now it started playing up17:21
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epssiwhen i copy something from a usb stick or cd/dvd, the files have only read permissions on my computer by default. how can i change this?17:24
nosrednaekimepssi: don't copyas root17:25
Dr_willischeck dmesg output for a start. then its possible its a hdma issue.. or couldbe some other process going onin the background sigma_1234  check htop, or top to see if anythingis  else is running17:25
* ScorpKing loves dd-wrt..17:25
Dr_willisepssi,  how are you copying these files?17:25
epssiright-click, copy, paste17:26
Dr_willisYou can always set themwriteable. I may be that the devices are getting mounted read only. so the copy is cloneing the permissions.17:27
Dr_willisIve never seen that happen however. I just recall seeing the execute bit always getting set some times when copying things from cd/vfat partitions17:27
Dr_willisI tend to use a command like ---> find -type f -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 66417:28
Dr_willisTo set all files permissions properly when they get messed up.17:28
Dr_willisand if its directories that are messed up --> find -type d -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 75517:29
epssiwell the mounted devices/disks are read+write17:30
epssiit's not a big problem to change the permissions afterwards but i guess there's a solution for this17:30
epssiim not familiar with "find" yet17:31
Dr_willisCheck the mount/fstab entries I guess. unless of thource they are automounted17:31
Dr_willistry    find -type d -print017:31
Dr_willisas a test. :) should print out all directories17:31
Dr_willisthe 'trick' to rember is that directories must be executable in order for you to access the dir.17:32
Dr_willisso if i get a messed up bunch of files in a single dir. with lots of messed up dirs..17:32
parkin_anyone know a software that can quickly add text in the corner of multiple pictures?17:32
epssiim sorry but some of this is going over my head : )17:32
Dr_willisI normally fix the dirs first, then the files. with those commands. (i got them as an alias)17:32
Dr_willisepssi,  read up on how linux handles file permissions.. its rather straight forward. :)17:32
Dr_willisthen build from there.17:33
Dr_willisparkin_,  the Imagemagik tools might be able to do that.17:33
parkin_k17:33
Dr_willisparkin_,  they are the jack-of-all-trades-tools for a lot of things.17:33
sigma_1234parkin_: i dont think that has been invented yet17:33
epssiuhh yeah i should but using guis is the way for me :P17:33
parkin_okok ill try thanks17:33
Freddy_CatsHii17:34
Dr_willisI thought i saw an imagmagic tool that could overlay a image over another one.. but that would be good for a static/single/unchangeing text perhaps.17:34
Dr_willisor logo.17:34
Dr_willisepssi,  I got one command that fixes all my files. :)  as i want.17:35
Dr_willisIf you mixx/match different distros/machines/users - you can get the permissions really messed up17:35
epssii'd rather fix this so they copy with read and write permissions in the beginning17:36
sigma_1234how different is koffice to openoffice?17:38
Tm_Tvery17:38
Tm_Tand yet, not really17:38
Tm_Tsigma_1234: how about trying them?17:38
Lynouresigma_1234: Just try it, unless you are all out of disk space :)17:38
sigma_1234im not out of disk space. i dont have the bandwidth to download it!17:39
nosrednaekimsigma_1234: it doesn't do as good of a job on docs, thats for sure17:40
jpatricksigma_1234: well, I don't use either of docs and spreadsheets I use KSpread17:40
PingulitenAny chance one could get a bit help with with a kubuntu installation? Disc checked out ok before I started installation, live cd part of disc wouldn't boot so I did a text installation without any errors. Upon rebooting and after some initial lines when starting up the screen is just blank. It is a laptop with an nvidia chipset so is there any way to get some barebone graphic interface until I've located better dri17:40
jpatricks/of/for17:40
sigma_1234i hear koffice2 will be impressive17:41
nosrednaekimPinguliten: first of all, is it Gutsy?17:41
Pinguliten7.10 dvd17:41
nosrednaekimPinguliten: can you boot failsafe mode?17:41
epssipinguliten some nvidia cards dont work with the "nvidia" drivers installed by default. so you could change Xorg.conf to use vga driver and then download and install the right ones17:42
PingulitenThere is a recovery mode which seems to freeze after a while17:42
epssiif this is the case17:42
sigma_1234!vector17:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vector - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:43
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sigma_1234!inkscape17:43
ubotuInkscape is a powerful vector graphics drawing application - see http://www.inkscape.org/ for more17:43
PingulitenRecovery boot freezes at 5.23600017:45
nosrednaekimPinguliten: could you give me the exact model number for the laptop?17:46
PingulitenHmmm, think it was a hp tx1270eo17:47
nosrednaekimshould say somewhere on the case17:47
Pingulitenyeah, tx1270eo17:47
Pingulitenor hp pavillion tx100017:48
Pingulitenthink the tx1000 is more of a model family though17:48
nosrednaekimok17:48
nosrednaekimyeah, thats good enough17:48
nosrednaekimPinguliten: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45743917:50
PingulitenWhy thank you.17:52
PingulitenI think I'll read through all this before I take up more of your time.17:52
PingulitenThank you for your help, it is appriciated.17:52
nosrednaekimk, thats cool.17:52
Ravestream_omg Liux realy hates me !17:53
jpatrickRavestream_: why?17:54
Ravestream_jpatrick:  i does thing i dont tell it to17:54
jpatrickRavestream_: like?17:54
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CyberFlycan someone assist me with samba ?17:56
stmartinhow to restart computer through Terminal?17:56
jpatrickstmartin: "sudo reboot"17:57
nosrednaekim!samba17:57
ubotuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.17:57
Ravestream_jpatrick:  2 days ago i installed kubunto  everything works fine17:57
Ravestream_jpatrick:  i innstall updates and some stuff ..17:57
Ravestream_then i cant loog in nextime i install17:57
stmartinok, thanks17:57
Ravestream_soo.. reinstall.17:57
jpatrickRavestream_: that's just weird17:58
Ravestream_jpatrick:  installs on same pc same cd17:58
jpatrickRavestream_: I've always done updates and backports, no problems17:58
Ravestream_this time my nic dont wokt17:58
Ravestream_work*17:58
Ravestream_well i needed to aktivate it17:59
mark__how do i get something to show in storage media thats in the media folder?17:59
Ravestream_so everything workt fine yesterday17:59
jpatrickmark__: it should be there, /media = media:/17:59
mark__i've done: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb117:59
CyberFlymmh17:59
mark__thats what i thought but its not17:59
CyberFlyanyone tell me how I mount something with different ownership?17:59
Ravestream_well today i start my baby up .. ohhh nice ..640x480 and cant go higher17:59
mark__how do i set it to automatically mount?18:00
Ravestream_and i havent done shit sinse yewsterday18:00
jussi01!language | Ravestream_18:00
ubotuRavestream_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.18:00
jpatrickRavestream_: tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?18:01
nosrednaekimCyberFly: than.....18:01
Ravestream_jpatrick:  no im totaly newbie18:02
jpatrickRavestream_: then, try that :)18:02
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Ravestream_jpatrick: it want a lot of info .. what if i choos wrong ?18:06
jpatrickRavestream_: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf.backup18:06
jpatrick(even it backs up when you do it)18:07
jpatrickRavestream_: cp it back if something goes wrong18:07
Ravestream_jpatrick:  cp ?  u know first time (almost) using linux18:08
Bauldrickwhats the hardy channel #kubuntu+1 ??18:08
nosrednaekimBauldrick: no... #ubuntu+118:08
jpatrickBauldrick: #ubuntu+118:08
Bauldrickta18:08
jpatrickRavestream_: CoPy18:08
Ravestream_what happes if i stop in middle of sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg18:08
Ravestream_couse i dont have half the info i need18:09
nosrednaekimRavestream_: anything you don't know the info for, leave as deafult18:09
Ravestream_why do i need so mych info to get proper screen resulution that workt fine before last boot ?18:10
Ravestream_sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg18:12
Ravestream_ups18:12
Ravestream_all i want is a change driver button..18:12
Ravestream_or .. that kubunto dont change a already working config like it want18:12
nosrednaekimRavestream_: well, then go through the whole dialog and chose the edfaults until you get to the screen18:12
Ravestream_and the sy linux is smooth18:14
Ravestream_10 minutes to change somthing that takes 10 sek in windows :)18:15
Dr_willis!info fusesmb18:15
ubotufusesmb: filesystem client based on the SMB file transfer protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-1 (gutsy), package size 29 kB, installed size 140 kB18:15
BauldrickRavestream_: who says that!?18:15
Dr_willisLets see... last night i had to reboot windows twice to get my Display working right.. vs just restarting the X server....18:16
Dr_willisbut... we dont want to get sta4rted in a linux vs windows war.18:16
Dr_willisX is supposed to get the proper modes and information from the monitor. some monitors dont proplely send that info.18:16
Dr_willisas for drivers.. well.. thats a flamewar waiting for a match. :P i wont start that./18:17
* Dr_willis goes back to editing his fusesmb wiki page.18:17
ardchoilleWhere would I go to learn more about the steps Kubuntu takes from boot to kdm being ready?18:18
Dr_willisardchoille,  i rember a 'from grub to bash prompt' howto at tldp.org18:19
Dr_willisbut thats not kubuntu specific.18:19
ardchoilleYeah, I would like to learn more about how Kubuntu handles things18:19
Dr_willisBut it had some very good general info.18:19
ardchoilleDr_willis: Will look, thanks18:19
Dr_willisand if you dontknow the general parts that all the disrtos use.. how willyou realize that kubuntu is different. :)18:19
ardchoilleTrue18:20
Dr_willisUbuntu disrtos normally use 'upstart' for one thing. thats a big diff. that is not noticealbe much. Because it works so well.18:20
Dr_willis!upstart18:20
alumnobuenas18:20
ubotuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/18:20
Dr_willisUbuntu disrtos normally dont use the runlevels/inittab file like a lot of other disrtos do either.18:20
alumnocan you give me the link to the spanish kubuntu channel?18:20
alumnoplease?18:20
Dr_willis!sp18:21
alumno!sp18:21
ardchoille!es18:21
Dr_willisor was it !es18:21
Dr_willis:)18:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:21
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.18:21
alumno!es18:21
alumnoarigato gozaimas18:21
Ravestream_Bauldrick:  i have heard people sy it so smooth.. and stable ..18:21
alumno^18:21
alumno^^18:21
Ravestream_hell no .. its as unstable as win me18:21
Dr_willisRavestream_,  depends on the person/machine/hardware/other things. -18:21
Ravestream_Dr_willis:  well not in this case..18:22
Dr_willisI can say that on my laptop - kubuntu has been the best linux ive tried. and its much speedier then windows was.18:22
Ravestream_a "normal" pc18:22
Ravestream_clean install18:22
nosrednaekimLinux is user freindly.... its just picky who its users are ;)18:22
Dr_williswe can goon and on spouting meaniless  'wellit dident do this and that' and it all is pointless.18:22
Dr_willisthere is no such thing as a18:22
Dr_willisnormal pc. :)18:23
Ravestream_and it has lots of problem ..18:23
oemkick18:23
Dr_willisState the specific problems..and work on one at a time.. thats about all you can do. we dont have a magic 'fix everything' button.18:23
Ravestream_Dr_willis:  no .. notice "normal"18:23
Dr_willisthere IS no 'normal18:23
Dr_willisevery bios/chipset/mb can have quirks.18:24
Ravestream_Dr_willis:  okej .. i dont have a lot of odd stuff18:24
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stmartinwhy I receive blank screen after installing nvidia driver (I have GeForce 8400GS18:24
stmartinit seems that sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf is making problem18:25
stmartinI can't write in "nvidia"18:25
ardchoillestmartin: Are you using gnome?18:26
stmartinyes18:26
jpatrick!gksudo | stmartin18:26
ubotustmartin: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)18:26
Dr_willisstmartin,  i thought the nvidia tools/installer automaticially changed that file.18:26
stmartinyes18:27
ardchoilleDr_willis: It does.. *if* you run it18:27
stmartinthat's true18:27
stmartinI must change it from "nvidia" to "vesa"18:27
imitationHi, i've got a wierd thing going on with my keyboard: after holding shift for about 10 sec, my computer first beeps, after another 10sec it enables some kind of "keyboard lock" in which you have to hold every key for about 2sec to have it input something.18:28
stmartinI don't know what is the prob.18:28
Dr_willisimitation,  i recall some sort of 'disabled user feature' that sounds a lot like that.18:28
nosrednaekimimitation: press shift for another 10 seconds and I think you should be able to turn it off18:28
Dr_willisIve seen similer things in.. Ghasp.. Windows! :)18:28
imitationhow can i the whole thing off?18:29
Dr_willisnormally ya only notice it after you are playing a game for a while and the keyboard starts goofing up.18:29
imitation*turn18:29
stmartincan u give me some recommedation?18:29
nosrednaekimstmartin: if you are on gnome, you belong over in #ubuntu18:29
stmartinbut none helps there18:29
stmartin:)18:30
Hirvinenimitation: K menu -> System settings -> Accessibility -> Accessibility -> Modifier keys -> [ ] Use sticky keys18:30
rothchildevenin' all18:30
stmartin!gnome18:30
nosrednaekimstmartin: ok, are you in X? or on the command line?18:30
stmartinyes18:30
Hirvinenimitation: In the same place: Keyboard filters -> [ ] Use slow keys and Activation Gestures -> [ ] Use gestures for activating sticky keys and slow keys18:30
ubotugnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.18:31
nosrednaekimstmartin: which one?18:31
stmartinX server18:31
stmartinI don't know very much about ubuntu, I am newbie18:32
nosrednaekimstmartin: ok, then do this "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"18:32
imitationnone of it is activated, had to turn off gestures. Now it works, THANK YOU18:32
stmartinok18:32
stmartinnosrednaekim: I did it.18:33
nosrednaekimstmartin: did it give you a text file?18:33
nosrednaekimin it should be a -- Section "Device"18:33
stmartinyes18:33
nosrednaekimand within that -- Driver "nvidia"18:34
stmartinIdentifier     "NVIDIA Corporation NVIDIA Default Card"18:34
stmartin    Driver         "vesa"18:34
nosrednaekimwell, its vesa right now.18:34
nosrednaekimyou want it to be nvidia?18:34
tuxicktry nv :)18:34
stmartinIf I try to change it to "nvidia" it will give me blank on boot18:34
nosrednaekimstmartin: well, what do you want it to be then?18:35
Greenerystmartin: u installed the restricted driver from ubuntu?18:35
stmartinGreenery: I installed from nvidia.com, and I tried with envy18:36
ardchoille!nvy18:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nvy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:36
ardchoille!envy18:36
ubotuenvy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »18:36
stmartinbut I have no Restricted Manager18:36
stmartinI have ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper :)18:36
ardchoillestmartin: Well, you are using gnome and should be in the #ubuntu channel for gnome-specific stuff :)18:37
nosrednaekimstmartin: oh... I see... did you try installing any nvidia drivers?18:37
Pingulitennosrednaekim: Got it up and running now, thanks alot mate!18:37
stmartinyes18:37
nosrednaekimPinguliten: sweet....18:37
stmartinnosrednaekim:yes18:37
nosrednaekimPinguliten: I'm glad you could figure it out on your own... thats the way to learn :)18:37
PingulitenTell me about it18:38
LeAstralehi everybody18:38
PingulitenWhen I installed ubuntu on my stationary I had hell18:38
nosrednaekimstmartin: using which method18:38
PingulitenFirst time I touched linux and I had to compile my gpu driver.18:39
stmartinI just told you, 1-st using envy, second downloading drivers (from nvidia.com) for 8400GS18:39
PingulitenIncluding installing everything requierd to compile and use it.18:39
nosrednaekimPinguliten: Via?18:39
ardchoillestmartin: Have you read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia18:40
PingulitenHmm? had an ati card18:40
stmartinardchoille: yes. But my card is not on the list18:40
PingulitenThen a big update came and suddenly my network card wouldn't work anymore.18:40
stmartinunfortenately18:40
ardchoillestmartin: 85** ?18:40
mhikuive logged as root, then when i use vncserver, everything works fine, now i created an account, now when i logged in a vncserver, only a console is up, how can i fix to have kde gui menus again?18:41
nosrednaekimPinguliten: ah ok18:41
stmartin8400GS18:41
ardchoillestmartin: Yeah18:41
nosrednaekimstmartin: envy is not a good thing to use, though you can probably tell that by now18:41
ardchoille!sudo | mhiku18:42
ubotumhiku: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.18:42
sparrwat home when i insert a sd card i get a popup asking what i want to do, at work i get nothing.  whats up?18:42
stmartin!gksudo18:42
ubotuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)18:42
nosrednaekimsparrw: is it the same computer?18:42
sparrwno18:43
stmartinI am desperate18:43
stmartinI don't know what to do.18:43
nosrednaekimstmartin: can you download Gutsy?18:43
sparrwnosrednaekim: different computers18:44
stmartinI will download 7.10 version, and try18:44
stmartinshould I delete the 6.06 version?18:44
stmartinor I should upgrade?18:44
Assidheya18:44
LeAstralestmartin: fresh install18:44
Assidhow do i get ubuntu to have kde option in the startup?18:44
nosrednaekimstmartin: fresh install18:45
nosrednaekimAssid: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-deksotp18:45
epssikubuntu-desktop18:46
geniiyes18:46
* genii hands nosrednaekim a mug of coffee18:46
nosrednaekimhot chocolate please18:47
Assidokay18:47
Assidis there a good monitoring type app for checking datatransfr and stuff?18:47
Assidlike gkrellm?18:47
* genii turns nosrednaekim's mug of coffee into hot chocolate18:47
sparrwhow do i get usb flash storage auto mount/open to work?18:47
nosrednaekimAssid: ksysgaurd probably does that18:48
nosrednaekimsparrw: if its deifferent computers... its probably a hardware issue18:48
sparrwnosrednaekim: great answer18:48
sparrwnosrednaekim: the card reader works fine in both computers18:48
nosrednaekimsparrw: oh.... heh... it was a good try :)18:49
stmartinnosrednaekim: how to do fresh install?18:50
nosrednaekimstmartin: do you have alot of stuff saved on your computer?18:51
nosrednaekimsparrw: wait... the hardware works fine under windows, or under linux?18:51
gustavonareaHello. How do I completely remove compiz? I'm using Kubuntu Gutsy and I wanted to give Compiz-Fusion a try, but I don't want it anymore... I've already removed all of the packages I installed, but Compiz is still working. Thanks in advance.18:52
stmartinnosrednaekim: no.18:52
Assidits just impossible to get help from ubuntu folks18:52
Assidand things just start acting funny18:52
nosrednaekimstmartin: then burn what you have on a cd, reinstall with the gutsy cd and cpoy the stuff back18:52
stmartinhow to reinstall?18:54
stmartinto format the hard disk?18:54
rothchildgustavonarea: alt f2 and kwin --replace18:54
gustavonarearothchild: that used to work, but now it doesn't18:54
rothchildgustavonarea: sounds like you need to double check what packages you have uninstalled18:55
stmartinnosrednaekim: to format the whole hard disk?18:56
gustavonarearothchild: I removed everything with the text "compiz" and "emerald"18:56
nosrednaekimstmartin: no, chose manual partitionsing and select your partition, it will format it and install anew18:57
gustavonareaI removed them some days ago and kwin was working just fine, but I'm getting this error since the lastest upgrade (today)18:57
stmartinok, thanks18:57
rothchildgustavonarea:  what happens when you try kwin --replace in a konsole rather than using alt f2? (if it spits up error messages then we have some clues to work from)18:58
gustavonarearothchild: here's the output: http://rafb.net/p/nk3Qin99.html18:58
noaXesswith which command can i check if usb-storage is available/installed?19:02
Stilo!de19:02
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de19:02
geniilsmod19:02
gustavonarearothchild: I'm sorry... I killed `kwin --replace` because it was taking a lot of time, but after that, I could not type nor click on nothing19:03
noaXessgenii: lsmod | grep usb?19:03
geniinoaXess: Yes, that will work. If not in the list it gives use modprobe to load it19:03
Assiderr19:03
noaXesswith which command can i check19:03
noaXessshit sorry.19:03
Assidwhere can i get some help with monodevelop19:03
noaXessusbcore               138632  2 ohci_hcd19:03
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nosrednaekimAssid: no help here for mono19:04
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noaXess!modprobe19:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about modprobe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:14
faruk_merhaba19:16
methods[laptop]how do i install by category ?19:17
joonasosaisiko jok auttaa suomeksi?19:18
BluesKaj!fi | joonas19:18
ubotujoonas: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi19:18
noaXessif i need to load a modul in boot prozess, how does this work?19:20
parkinHi i did the steps in this guide but got the same error as ned in his post, http://kubuntu101.blogspot.com/2005/11/linux-gaming-part-4-installing-nvidia.html19:21
parkinanyone got any tips?19:21
faruk_turkish channel19:21
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jussi01!tr | faruk_19:22
ubotufaruk_: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.19:22
noaXess!nvidia | parkin19:23
ubotuparkin: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto19:23
faruk_thanks19:23
parkinok19:23
parkinubotu thats for ubuntu19:23
noaXessparkin: first.. ubotu is a bot :) and it work also under kubunt19:24
noaXesswhat kubunt version?19:24
noaXessparkin: ?19:24
parkin7.1019:24
parkinThe easiest way to install binary drivers is to use the built in Restricted Driver Manager from System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager in Ubuntu .19:25
jussi01!thanks | parkin19:25
ubotuparkin: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)19:25
noaXessparkin: go to system settings / advanced / restricted drivers19:25
parkinok19:25
edihi, i started an second xserver, how can i exit him ?19:26
faruk_fujitsu siemens notebook wireles problem19:27
noaXessedi: grep in ps for it19:27
faruk_help please19:27
parkinok found it :) thanks noaXess and ubotu19:27
parkini will try to reboot now19:27
noaXessedi: ps ax | grep kdm i think19:27
jpatrick!ask | faruk_19:28
ubotufaruk_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)19:28
noaXesshey jpatrick wasup?19:28
jpatricknoaXess: not much, just watching over several channels19:28
noaXess:)19:29
noaXessmodprobe how to autoload modules that are not loaded with kernel on boot time19:29
parkinwhich drivers do you reccomend of nvidia-glx-new and nvidia-glx  ?19:29
parkinany major difference?19:30
noaXessparkin: hm.... one moment19:30
jpatricknoaXess: put it in /etc/modules19:30
[-_-]zzZZmuhhahahahaha19:30
[-_-]zzZZhello everyone19:30
[-_-]zzZZheh19:30
jpatrick[-_-]zzZZ: hi19:30
edinoaXess: uhmm, ok, i think its just the konsole open in the 2nd (when i hit strg+alt+F8) how to close that?19:31
noaXessparkin: try the new one.. first backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf19:31
[-_-]zzZZokay... why wont firefox install on a fresh kubuntu install19:31
parkinok19:31
jpatrick[-_-]zzZZ: not even with "sudo apt-get install firefox" in the konsole?19:32
Freddy_CatsHi19:32
[-_-]zzZZnot even in the konsole19:32
[-_-]zzZZthat was my first move19:32
* [-_-]zzZZ love konsole19:33
SkyblastAtWork[-_-]zzZZ: What's the error is gives in konsole, if any?19:34
[-_-]zzZZReading package lists... Done19:34
[-_-]zzZZBuilding dependency tree19:34
[-_-]zzZZReading state information... Done19:34
[-_-]zzZZPackage firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.19:34
[-_-]zzZZThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or19:34
[-_-]zzZZis only available from another source19:34
[-_-]zzZZE: Package firefox has no installation candidate19:34
jpatrick!paste | [-_-]zzZZ19:35
ubotu[-_-]zzZZ: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)19:35
jpatrick!source-o-matic > [-_-]zzZZ19:35
jpatrick!info firefox > [-_-]zzZZ19:36
SkyblastAtWork!info firefox19:37
ubotufirefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.11+2nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10 (gutsy), package size 8969 kB, installed size 26024 kB19:37
SkyblastAtWorkThat package should work... what version of Kubuntu are you using19:37
jpatrickSkyblastAtWork: well, I did that but I made ubotu /msg it to him ;)19:37
[-_-]zzZZjust downloaded from website19:37
[-_-]zzZZthanks jpatrick19:37
[-_-]zzZZ;)19:37
jpatrick[-_-]zzZZ: you're welcome19:38
SkyblastAtWorkI know, I just wanted to make sure the package name hadn't been renamed.... I'm on a Dapper box right now... couldn't remember offhand19:38
jpatrickSkyblastAtWork: you can always consult packages.ubuntu.com :)19:38
[-_-]zzZZhow to you find out what version kde and kubuntu your using19:39
[-_-]zzZZin windows you could see all of that in system19:39
geniiKmenu..rightclick..Panel Menu..Help..About KDE19:39
supert0nesyes because windows provides you more information about your system than linux /sarcasm19:39
jpatrick[-_-]zzZZ: Help Menu -> About KDE/App name19:39
gladiertis going to be hot today19:41
noaXess[-_-]zzZZ: try alos in konsole uname -a or kdesktop -v19:42
noaXessgladier: where are you? we have 0842 pm and about plus 1 or 2 degrees19:42
gladieraus .. its 6am and 29'C19:42
supert0nes4.0.0 and its cluttered desktop still need some work19:43
gladiersydney to be specific19:43
[-_-]zzZZokay well i have gutsy 7.10 fresh install and firefox will not install19:43
jpatricksupert0nes: yes, it's brand new19:43
SkyblastAtWork[-_-]zzZZ: try doing 'sudo apt-get update' in konsole, then install firefox19:43
SkyblastAtWorkKDE4 looks cool... I'm kinda torn on using it though... gotten so use to the super awesome KDE3.519:44
supert0nestheir "release event" will be funny because not many people will be using it.19:44
gladierrotating windows are kinda neet19:44
SkyblastAtWorkI'll use it with Hardy19:45
SkyblastAtWorkIt's kinda like the Windows users with Veesta. You can avoid it for a while... but eventually, gotta get used to it. lol19:46
[-_-]zzZZi did the source o matic  can ubunutu and kubuntu have the same source list19:46
blackflag!avahi19:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about avahi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:48
Stilo!de19:48
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de19:48
ObeyRoyI need to get into the kubuntu equivalent of System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager, can someone help me, please?19:56
supert0nesare there any other huge unofficial repositories for programs like opera and awn?19:56
jpatricksupert0nes: the canonical ones?19:56
supert0nesI feel like the multiverse and universe are still a little limited19:56
noaXessfor usb_storage what other module should be loaded or will modprobe usb_storage load all neede modules?19:57
jpatricksupert0nes: "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy-commercial partner" is the canoncial one19:57
supert0nesooo nice19:58
supert0nesthanks19:58
ObeyRoyI need to get into the kubuntu equivalent of System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager, can someone help me, please?19:59
nosrednaekimObeyRoy: are you on gutsy?19:59
ObeyRoyI'm on 7.10, i forget the name20:00
jpatrickObeyRoy: it's in System Settings -> Advance20:00
nosrednaekimObeyRoy: ok, the the resticted manager is in under system settings->advanced20:00
CaptainFutureObeyRoy: You're just able to install the restricted manager20:00
nosrednaekimerr! jpatrick!!20:00
jpatricknosrednaekim: ?20:01
ObeyRoyWel, where is system settings?20:01
nosrednaekimjpatrick: too fast20:01
jpatrickObeyRoy: KMenu20:01
nosrednaekimObeyRoy: kmenu...20:01
* jpatrick wins again20:01
nosrednaekimlag....20:01
nosrednaekimit says I won that one20:01
jpatrick!lag > nosrednaekim20:01
ObeyRoyI have a systems tree and a settings tree20:01
ObeyRoyin the kmenu20:01
nosrednaekimonly .5 sec!20:01
genii!helpersnack | jpatrick20:01
ubotujpatrick: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!20:01
nosrednaekimObeyRoy: just run "systemsettings" from a arun command dialog20:02
* jpatrick sips his coffee with genii 20:02
CaptainFutureObeyRoy: Just try the command line (restricted-manager)20:02
tihomirhi all20:02
nosrednaekimCaptainFuture: actually, its restricted-manager-kde20:03
ObeyRoyOkay, I'm really just trying to make sure my driver is updated, what should I do?20:03
nosrednaekimObeyRoy: run "restricted-manager0kde"20:03
nosrednaekim0/-20:03
Dr_willisOk. Been working on a fusesmb wiki page - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/fusesmb anyone care to check it out. I gotta run to the store.  Thanks.20:05
david__hi!20:06
david__I am sorry... but don't know what's the proper channel to ask this... hehe20:06
enryhello20:06
nosrednaekimdavid__: just ask20:07
jpatrick!ask | david__20:07
ubotudavid__: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)20:07
david__I want to program some openGL and work with MIDI, do you know if there are MIDI bindings for python in ubuntu packages?20:08
ObeyRoynosrednaekim: Ok, I ran that command, now what?20:08
nosrednaekimObeyRoy: did it give you a little application window?20:08
gidnaHi20:09
ObeyRoynosrednaekim: yes, now I'm at this page that says: "No proprietary drivers in use on this system"20:09
gidnawhen I open synaptic I receive this error: E: Il pacchetto sun-java6-bin deve essere reinstallato, ma non si riesce a trovare un archivio per esso.20:09
nosrednaekimok... there you go.20:09
nosrednaekim!it20:10
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!20:10
th1has kde 4.0 release been packaged for kubuntu yet?20:10
ObeyRoynosrednaekim: Well, what should I do now?20:10
nosrednaekimObeyRoy: IDK.. what are you trying to do?20:10
ObeyRoynosrednaekim: Make sure I'm using th emost updated driver possible20:11
nosrednaekimObeyRoy: well, then enable the driver in there.20:12
ObeyRoynosrednaekim: I can't, it's grayed out20:13
JuJuBeeWhat program can I use to capture video from my Digital Vdieo Camera and create a DVD ?  I have been using Microsoft Movie Maker then using DeVeDe to make the iso  for a dvd.20:14
nosrednaekimObeyRoy: oh! close it and run "kdesudo restricted-manager-kde" instead20:14
ObeyRoynosrednaekim: Okay, that works. I have a second option, and that'sto enable the firmware for Broadcomm 43xx chipset family20:16
nosrednaekimJuJuBee: kino might work20:16
JuJuBeeI will have a look.20:16
nosrednaekimObeyRoy: thats for your wireless.... is your wireless working right now?20:16
ObeyRoynosrednaekim: Dunno, haven't needed to use it20:16
nosrednaekimObeyRoy: then don't mess with that20:16
ObeyRoynosrednaekim: Okay, thanks. I have a few more questions, so  is there a channel that focuses primarily on video cards?20:17
nosrednaekimObeyRoy: nope... ussually you go with your distro's channel20:17
nosrednaekimsince its different for easch distro20:17
ObeyRoynosrednaekim: oh... Well, I am just trying to run WoW, and I have an ati card.20:18
nosrednaekimObeyRoy: then enable that ATI restricted driver20:18
ObeyRoynosrednaekim: Okay, fair enough20:19
nosrednaekimand you MAY have to right with WoW in order to get it working. Its been done plenty of times before though20:19
nosrednaekim*fight20:19
ObeyRoynosrednaekim: Right now, the screen turns black, then sends me to into the login screen after i get to a certain point in the install20:20
nosrednaekimwait.... this isn't installed already?20:20
nosrednaekimor do you mean installing the driver20:20
ObeyRoyno, it's not yet installed20:20
ObeyRoyI keep trying to, but it can never complete20:21
nosrednaekimoh... you are going to need to install the OS first :)20:21
JuJuBeeWhat do I do about this "Warning: raw1394 Kernel module not loaded or failuter to read/write /dev/raw1394" ?20:21
JuJuBeeThis comes from kino20:21
nosrednaekimJuJuBee: check if the module raw1395 is loaded with "lsmod | grep 1395"20:22
ObeyRoynosrednaekim: What do you mean? I am installing it under Wine20:22
nosrednaekimObeyRoy: oh.... Wow...lol, I though you meant install linux :)20:22
JuJuBeeSeems to be... raw1394                30580  020:23
nosrednaekimJuJuBee: run kino as root20:23
JuJuBeeOk.20:23
ObeyRoynosrednaekim: haha, sorry, i wasn't  too clear20:23
nick__:D20:24
JuJuBeeThat worked.20:24
nosrednaekimJuJuBee: then do "sudo chmod a+w /dev/raw1394"20:25
ObeyRoyi'm gonna brb, I need to eat20:25
JuJuBeenosrednaekim: still same problem. I need to run as root...20:27
nosrednaekimJuJuBee: hmm ok, well I don't think there is any real danger in that20:27
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johnficcahey is there a kde 4 irc channel?20:36
jpatrickjohnficca: #kde4?20:36
gidnaE: The package sun-java6-bin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it20:36
SSJ_GZjohnficca: Development or support?20:36
jpatrick!info sun-java6-bin20:37
johnficcaSSJ_GZ: both20:37
ubotusun-java6-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture dependent files). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-03-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 25795 kB, installed size 77224 kB20:37
jpatrickjohnficca: #kde4-devel too then20:37
johnficcathanks20:37
SSJ_GZjohnficca: Development is #kde4-devel; support - just use #kde :)20:37
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holycowwhat is the name of the kde print manager?20:42
AmyRoseholycow: kjobviewer, I think20:44
pokerheh20:45
poker?20:47
jpatrick!pl | poker20:47
ubotupoker: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl20:47
pokerja pierwszy raz siedze na takim komunikatorze jak irc:D20:48
pokerja wogole pierwszy raz siedze na takim komunikatorze jak irc:d20:50
holycowAmyRose: thank you veyr much!20:55
AmyRoseyou're welcome, holycow20:56
AmyRose!kde420:56
ubotukde4 is KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information, please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://tinyurl.com/2gqwmr - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php20:56
* AmyRose wishes for KDE 4.0 packages now that the kde.org site says it's out20:56
davfCan anyone help me with getting kubuntu to show bluetooth services?20:57
supert0neskde 4.0 packages are out20:57
supert0nesi downloaded them this morning20:57
david__where from?20:57
jpatrickAmyRose: in gutsy-backports20:58
AmyRosejpatrick: Really? :D20:58
jpatrickAmyRose: yes20:59
supert0nesbut don't get your hopes too high20:59
supert0nesits not magically perfect20:59
AmyRoseI know20:59
AmyRoseI just want to see if it's any good for myself20:59
AmyRoseif not, I'm sticking with 3.521:00
jpatrickit worked ok here21:00
supert0nesif you have a desktop with a few files each one has a plasma border on it21:00
supert0nesit really becomes cluttered looking21:00
supert0nesanyone tried amarok 2 yet?21:01
aleksanteri:-o kde4 is out?21:01
AmyRosealeksanteri: Yes21:01
aleksanteri\o/21:01
* aleksanteri upgrades.21:01
supert0nesi heard it was still in alpha21:01
david__but the packages I have in backports I think they are RC1 still21:02
jpatrickdavid__: please do apt-get update21:02
jpatrickdavid__: mirrors may still be updating...21:02
supert0nesjpatrick: have you used the new amarok?21:03
david__I already did it, I'll try to do it tomorrow then21:03
jpatricksupert0nes: no, and amarok2 is not yet set for release21:03
supert0nesgotcha21:04
aleksanterihm..21:04
LjLjpatrick: are you sure they're in backports? i get plenty new KDE4 packages from http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu, but none from gutsy-backports21:04
aleksanteri$ apt-cache show kde4base | grep Version21:04
aleksanteriVersion: 3.94.0-0ubuntu121:04
* aleksanteri did update and even changed mirrors..21:05
LjLaleksanteri: that's not the current name of the package. try kdebase-kde421:05
jpatrickLjL: ah, they must still be building then...21:05
LjLactually, try just kdelibs521:05
ObeyRoyCan anyone tell me how to disable compiz/beryl?21:05
LjLno, don't try kdelibs521:05
aleksanteriLjL, it's 3.94 too21:06
jpatrickLjL: looks like they are only in the PPA21:06
jpatrickstill building in backports then21:06
LjLaleksanteri: i said nonsense... try « apt-cache policy kdebase-bin-kde4 » - for me, the package from backports are 4:3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1, while the ones from PPA are 4:4.0.0-0ubuntu1~gutsy1~ppa121:07
LjLjpatrick: perhaps one should rather wait for backports than install the ppa ones, uhm... given that they come with a ~gutsy1~ppa1 appendage, they would probably override the ones in backports :|21:07
LjLstdin?21:07
ObeyRoyCan anyone tell me how to disable compiz/beryl?21:07
Dr_willisI just normally remove the compiz package :)21:07
aleksanteri$ LANG=en_EN apt-cache policy kdebase-bin-kde421:08
aleksanteriW: Unable to locate package kdebase-bin-kde421:08
LjLaleksanteri: then you have neither ppa nor backports enabled21:08
Dr_williscompiz --replace is normally ran un the Autostart dir. with Kde.  I guess it deopends on whats starting compiz.21:08
aleksanteri!ppa21:08
ubotuWith Launchpad's Personal Package Archives (PPA), you can build and publish binary Ubuntu packages for multiple architectures simply by uploading an Ubuntu source package to Launchpad. See https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart.21:08
aleksanteriright-o21:08
LjLaleksanteri: i suggest waiting for the backports one though, at least until i'm more clear on this21:08
LjL!backports21:08
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging21:09
ObeyRoyDr_willis: I'm trying to get a game under wine to run smoothly21:09
ObeyRoyAnd, someone told me to try disabling that21:09
aleksanterioki21:09
emuDoes anybody here has the Text from the Release Anouncement for KDE 4.0?21:10
holycowhey guys21:10
geniikwin --replace21:10
holycowman oh man does kde4 look amazing, i want to start using it now21:10
Tm_Tholycow: who stops you?21:10
holycowi think the only thing i need to actually setup my workflow is to be able to add panels and icons to them ... is that possible yet? i couldn't figure it out if yes21:11
Dr_willisObeyRoy,  did you ENABLE compiz? You got the fancy wiggly windows? compiz is not enabled by default in kubuntu.21:11
mohihttp://kde.org/kde-4.0-release-event/21:11
geniistdin: I noticed you have a credit on the kde4 rc2 d/l page :)21:11
ObeyRoyDr_willis: No, i did not enable it21:11
holycowTm_T: i have it installed, am going in and testing it here and there21:11
mohiwas ir released?21:12
mohiit21:12
ObeyRoyDr_willis: I am just trying to get this program to run smoothly, any suggestions?21:12
mohiwhen whould we have kde4 (finall version) on kubuntu repos?21:12
LjLmohi: pretty shortly, i think. the packages should be building.21:13
mohiLjL: you mean maybe tomorrow? or when?21:13
jpatrickLjL: packages will be done tomorrow21:14
LjLmohi, i'm not a prophet, but i mean a mean of 5 hours from now with a standard deviation of 4 hours21:14
mohiLjL: ooh! tanx! I just wanted to know if I can publish the news of this or not .? (ubuntu.ir)21:15
jpatrickmohi: not yet21:15
mohijpatrick: ooh! ok!21:16
extremishow long do you think it will take before there is an official kubuntu kde4 package?21:16
Dr_willisObeyRoy,  you enabled compiz? If not - then its not enabled.. and you are looking in the wrong place. :)  You might want run your wine/game inside a lighter window manager. such as jwm,  that way you dont have all the kde overhead on the system. (that will also totally disable compiz as well, if its enabled)21:17
evesautomotiveello luv21:19
evesautomotivesoz I goez to kdelook and d/l some pretty cool stuff...but I'll be dam if I know how to make it install21:21
Dr_willisdepends on what exactly it is. In many cases kde theme 'parts' need to be compiled and installed.21:22
evesautomotiveohhhhhh....I thought I could just browse to the tar and it would do that automagically21:23
evesautomotivehmph21:23
AmyRoseevesautomotive: At least it's easier to customize than Windows is21:24
Dr_willisdepends on what it is exactly.21:24
evesautomotiveaighty21:24
Dr_willisicons you can just drag/drop to the icon settings tool normally21:24
Dr_willisthers also a lot of kde themes and parts Not installed by default. Check your pakage manager search for 'themes' and 'kwin'21:25
evesautomotivehow bout splash screens?21:25
Dr_willis!find kwin21:25
ubotuFound: kwin, kwin-style-crystal, kwin4, kwin-baghira, kwin-style-alphacube (and 6 others)21:25
Dr_willisI disable splash screens.. so i dont know. :)21:25
evesautomotiveyea got all those21:25
evesautomotiveI had to disable splash to get my 64 to even load21:25
AmyRose!anything`21:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about anything` - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:26
Dr_willis!info fusesmb21:26
ubotufusesmb: filesystem client based on the SMB file transfer protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-1 (gutsy), package size 29 kB, installed size 140 kB21:26
evesautomotiveyea got the universe in my pocket21:27
* AmyRose is naughty enough to also have the multiverse in hers21:28
evesautomotiveits cool....since I opened up more repositories via adept it let me get some pretty cool login screens however I want to match my splash screen w/ my lizard21:28
noaXess!lamp21:28
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)21:28
sparrwon one kubuntu box i get a kde popup when inserting usb flash drives or usb card readers.  on another kubuntu box i only get the popup for flash drives, not for my card reader.  help?21:29
AmyRoseWhat about lamps that take CF bulbs?21:29
* AmyRose rimshots21:29
stdingenii: I should hope so too :p21:29
Edulixhi21:30
Edulixanyone know when is going to be released the kde 4.0.0 packages for kubuntu?21:30
jpatrickEdulix: in ppa21:30
Tm_TEdulix: when ready21:30
EdulixTm_T: I know that before asking ;)21:32
Edulixjpatrick: uhm, what's is ppa?21:32
jpatrick!ppa > Edulix21:33
Edulixjpatrick: I mean, for example normally when there's a new amarok release, someone in the dot links to the ubuntu packages, jriddell I belive21:34
jpatrickEdulix: they will hopefully be in gutsy-backports tomorrows21:34
jpatricktomorrow*21:34
Edulixah ok =)21:34
spaci76re@ll21:37
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david__Has anyone been able to fix the problem with Kubuntu Gutsy not recieving obex pushes via bluetooth?21:47
x_linkHi21:48
x_linkDoes anybody know where I can get KDE 4.0 Live CD?21:48
trixonI installed kubuntu-desktop in my ubuntu, how do I get the KDE login manager?21:48
x_linkA friend want's to try it out.21:48
x_linktrixon: sudo aptitude install kdm?21:49
trixonx_link. I got /usr/bin/kdm already21:49
x_linktrixon: Okey, then I don't know.21:49
geniitrixon: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm21:49
geniitrixon: Choose kdm for login manager21:50
trixongeni, ty,,21:51
trixon$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm21:51
trixonPlease be sure to run "dpkg --configure kdm"21:51
makuseruhi, i want to put my /home directory on a different partition, how would i do this?21:51
trixondid that too, off to log in now21:51
trappistmakuseru: format the partition as ext3 or something, mount it as /tmphome or something, copy (sudo cp -a) the contents of /home to it, set it up in /etc/fstab to mount as /home, rename (sudo mv) /home, sudo mkdir /home, sudo mount /home21:53
trappistmakuseru: forgot, sudo umount /tmphome before trying to mount it on /home21:54
trappistmakuseru: you'll probably need to do this from a root console without kde running, so you'd sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop first.  might work without doing that, not sure.21:54
matttishow do i install the uberscript for xchat ?21:57
makuserutrappist: so if its set to mount as /home it will know to save everything there instead of the partition with the actuall OS?21:57
jhutchins_wkIsn't there a tool that lets you mount a bootable ISO, make changes, then remaster it for burning?22:02
tzdbluetooth skills anyone? Seems impossible to get some help with it and i would really love to get it working ;)22:02
trappistmakuseru: there can only be one /home, so if it's mounted as a partition, that's where it'll go22:02
chris062689Hello world! :)22:02
makuserutrappist: alright, thats pretty simple22:02
chris062689I can't wait for KDE 4.0, what about you guys?22:03
Ravestream_Newbi giving it 1 last chans..22:03
thewhitepelicanI come bearing glad tidings hehe22:04
Ravestream_i cant get higer res than 640x480.. why ??22:04
TheWhiteRookchris062089: only 7 hours... (if they release at midnight)22:04
chris062689Did they say what time they were going to release ti?22:04
thewhitepelicanI fonally got the dist upgrade to work22:04
chris062689I'm so happy I get Friday off.22:04
thewhitepelicanfinally*22:04
thewhitepelicanboy, you guys are chomping t the bit hehe22:05
thewhitepelicanat*22:05
chris062689Is there anyway to get Konqueror automaticly redirect to google if the URL isn't found?  (Like in firefox?)22:05
Ravestream_is there anyway to get kubunto to run higer res then 640x480  ??22:06
chris062689System Settings > Monitor & Display?22:06
chris062689I assume you already know about this though... :P22:06
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Ravestream_chris062689: : highest res there is 640x480 :(22:06
thewhitepelicanodd22:06
Ravestream_it workt fine after install..22:07
TheWhiteRookRavestream: it could also be Settings>Periferals>Monitor & Display22:07
TheWhiteRookhmmm22:07
chris062689Can your monitor support higher than that?22:07
Ravestream_chris062689: : oh ya22:07
Ravestream_it workt fine after install.. but when i booted up today i only get 640x48022:07
chris062689Make sure your restricted drivers are enabled?22:08
Ravestream_chris062689:  how di i do that ..22:08
Ravestream_im newborn with linux..22:08
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chris062689sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list22:11
chris062689copy / paste that somewhere22:11
jpatrick!kdesudo | chris06268922:12
ubotuchris062689: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)22:12
Ravestream_chris062689:  i did.. a hole lot of errors22:15
chris062689I know this is a really stupid question but... how do I play mp3 and ogm files?22:15
ed__You need the right codecs.22:15
ed__*reads a bit of a manual*22:15
ed__i mean searches22:16
ed__https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats22:16
ed__Here you go.22:16
ed__install kubuntu-restricted-extras,22:16
chris062689ah22:17
ed__(I prefer aptitude for installing meta-packagesnow)22:17
chris062689I put in ubuntu-res* instead :P22:17
chris062689Silly me.22:17
chris062689thank you so much.22:17
ed__Ah it's okay :-)22:17
GrahamAHey, how can I copy a DVD to CD?22:17
GrahamAThe DVD image will fit.22:18
ed__I should think so.22:18
ed__What are you using, K3B?22:18
GrahamAYes22:18
Ravestream_i got these kind of errors22:19
Ravestream_kded: ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed.22:19
ed__It's odd, but I seem to have less KDE apps when I install the kde package on Ubuntu rather than, say, openSUSE.22:19
ed__Meh.22:19
Ravestream_kded: cannot connect to X server :0.022:19
ed__I'd try launching gnome-system-monitor, ending kded and starting it again from bash, but don't blame me for any damages resulting from doing that.22:19
GrahamAed__: I'll rip a .iso off it to save time.22:20
ed__I have this really annoying problem with my sound; it seems that when I crash my computer, it messes up. I tend to end esd, change my sound card back t the usual, relaunch esd and restart, bu I'm not sure how reliable this is. Doe sanyone know of a solution?22:21
ed__Okay.22:21
basyHow can i check from terminal if I am on 32bit or 64bit kernel?22:21
ed__arch22:21
ed__if you have it, i think22:22
adz21cbasy: uname -a22:22
ed__*looks around in synaptic*22:22
ed__*fails to find arch*22:23
* ed__ guesses 'what he said'22:23
chris062689I just installed Kubuntu-restricted22:23
basythanks22:23
chris062689and now it says the Audio channel isn't available.22:23
chris062689:(22:23
chris062689I can't hear any music coming out of my speakers now.22:23
chris062689(or audio)22:23
ed__Hmm22:23
ed__Out of my scope.22:23
chris062689crap.22:23
ed__Eeeh, just wait for someone else.22:24
chris062689Audio output unabilible.  Device is busy. ()22:25
adz21cchris062689: what sound card you got?22:25
chris062689This isn't good....22:26
Ravestream_kded: cannot connect to X server :0.0   what can the problem be ?22:26
chris062689.... not positive, but it was working great before I installed restricted-drivers22:26
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adz21cchris062689: what did you need restricted for?22:27
chris062689mp3s...22:27
chris062689ogms...22:27
adz21cok22:27
adz21cdrivers?22:27
adz21cu shouldn't need restricted drivers for that22:27
chris062689just my wireless and nvidia.22:28
adz21cok22:28
chris062689Well22:28
chris062689er..22:28
chris062689Sorry..22:28
chris062689I installed kubuntu-restricted-extras22:28
chris062689Not the actual drivers.22:29
adz21cok22:29
adz21cyou tried just removing that see what happens?22:29
chris062689well22:29
chris062689No.. but..22:29
chris062689I need mp3 support :(22:29
adz21cyea but its a test to see if that caused it atleast22:29
chris062689should I try removing it and rebooting?22:30
adz21cyea22:30
chris062689ok brb22:30
Ravestream_is there any way to "repair" kubuntu withour reinstall ?22:30
adz21cRavestream_: in what sense?22:31
basyCan i install 32bit ubuntu with 32bit MINI_CD on 64bit Hardware? I download 32bit MINI CD, but the image was: x86_64 :( But it installs 64bit on my PC Can I use this mini CD to install 32bit version?22:31
ed__Yes.22:31
basyhow?22:31
ed__I think so.22:31
adz21cyes22:31
ed__Wait.22:31
adz21cjust go along as normal22:31
ed__I think you can install 32 bit ubuntu on 64 bit hardware, but maybe not from a 64 bit CD.22:32
adz21cno not from an x64 cd but installing x86 on x64 processor should work ok22:32
ed__yeah, just boot from the 32 bit one and launch the installer as usual :-)22:32
ed__ditto22:32
chris062689Ok now I hear stuff..22:32
Ravestream_adz21c: somthing is fucked upp with my grafik  i can only get 640x48022:32
chris062689It's just.. I can't get mp3 or ogms to play.22:32
ed__erm22:33
adz21cRavestream_: what graphics card you got?22:33
chris062689er.. wtf...22:33
chris062689Ogms still play, but when I do that it says audio device is in use.22:33
ed__i dunno if editing xorg.conf would help. *searches for gui tool*22:33
jpatrick!language | chris06268922:33
chris062689Gah this was so much easier on Ubuntu =(22:33
ubotuchris062689: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.22:33
adz21cok chris062689try this22:33
nexamacRavestream_: what driver are you using for your videocard?22:33
Ravestream_adz21c:  GF 6600gt22:33
chris062689... is "wtf" not allowed here I guess?22:33
jpatrickchris062689: no, just to keep the channel temperature down22:34
nexamacchris062689: just dont curse :)22:34
nexamacwell ok22:34
nexamacignore me22:34
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chris062689Perhaps.. I should just move back to Ubuntu =/22:34
adz21cchris062689: the packages that restricted-extras installs (its a dummy package) are as follows22:34
chris062689Since if I can't get this audio channel thing to work... it won't do me any good22:34
NexaMacchris062689: what soundcard?22:34
jpatrickchris062689: have you installed kubuntu-restricted-extas?22:34
Ravestream_nexamac: . dont know.. i only installed kubunto.. it looks nice.. next time reebot without any changes i can only sett 640x48022:34
chris062689yes..22:34
NexaMacand please dont tell me youre using a mac,,22:34
chris062689But I removed them.22:35
NexaMacRavestream_: whats your videocard then?22:35
adz21clibxine1-ffmpeg, libdvdread3, libk3b2-mp3, unrar, liblame0, libtunepimp5-mp3. install them one at a time and see which breaks it22:35
chris062689well the thing is..22:35
chris062689Even though I uninstalled it..22:35
chris062689It still allows me to play the things22:35
chris062689and audio channel still isn't there.22:35
Ravestream_NexaMac:  Gf 6600 gt22:35
NexaMacRavestream_: allright, first i want you to try something22:36
NexaMaclog out, shutdown the xserver and do a reconfigure22:36
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NexaMacknow how to?22:36
Ravestream_NexaMac:  Talk like to a child.. im newbie on linux22:36
NexaMacaight22:36
noaXessi get an sf_dir_open error rc=-3822:37
NexaMacdont do this yet, but you hit CTRL+ALT+F1, then log in, then type "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"22:37
ed__For the guy with the screen resolution problem: do you have gnome? If so, go into system->administration->scren and graphics then select from the Resolution: drop-down-box.22:37
Ravestream_ed__:  kubuntu22:37
noaXesshave made a shared folder for my guest, mounted it ok.. and wanted to browse it from the guest.. the avoce error offurs22:37
NexaMacRavestream_: then proceed to type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" then follow the instructions and select Vesa as video driver22:37
NexaMacRavestream_: THEN when it comes to resolution mode setup etc, select medium and select the resolution you wanna use22:38
ed__Ravestream: Alright; it's just that you CAN install gnome on Kubuntu... I think.22:38
NexaMacRavestream_: now grab a pen and write down what i said :P22:38
Ravestream_NexaMac:  can i do that in a console her or do i log of x first. ?22:38
Ravestream_NexaMac: : hold 2 sec befor typing22:38
NexaMacRavestream_: log of X22:38
NexaMac>_>22:38
noaXessou.. wrong channel.. sorry22:39
ravestreamNexaMac: now go :)22:39
NexaMacwhat part do you want me to repeat? :<22:39
Pollywogwhy does Konqueror in Gutsy fail to render many websites?  It just shows a blank page22:40
noaXess!find ftp-server22:40
ubotuFound: vsftpd, ftpd, ftpd-ssl, heimdal-servers, inetutils-ftpd (and 10 others)22:40
Ravestream_Not to self22:40
Ravestream_ "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" then follow the instructions and select Vesa as video driver22:40
PollywogFirefox will display most of them22:40
NexaMacRavestream: thats about right, just "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop" first to completely shut off X22:40
Ravestream_how do i log of x ? and stay in non x part22:41
Ravestream_tnx22:41
NexaMacread above statement ;)22:41
noaXesshow can i get info's about a package with apt-get?22:41
basy <adz21c>: uname -a result is i686 => mini cd that i used to install was x86_64 (there is no single 32 mini cd), and there were no choice of 32/64bit during instalation process, ... My hardware is 64bit... Are you sure that i can install it with mini cd?22:41
NexaMacRavestream_: when youre done, let me know :)22:41
Pollywogapt-cache show <package>22:41
NexaMacRavestream_: oh also, what resolution will you be using?22:41
NexaMacbah22:42
basy <adz21c> Do i need single 32 bit live CD or DVD?22:42
ravestreamNexaMac: 1280x102422:42
NexaMac:D22:42
adz21cbasy: i believe i686 is 32bit22:42
NexaMacallright22:42
ravestream@ least22:42
PollywognoaXess: also apt-cache showpkg <package>22:43
noaXessPollywog: thanks..22:43
NexaMacravestream: start off with 1280x1024, cause it works22:43
NexaMacravestream: when youre done well get to installing your vid card and fixing resolutions properly22:43
NexaMacravestream: now go do some magic :)22:44
basy<adz21c> :) you are rigth, my mistake22:45
basythanks22:45
basygot bles google22:46
ravestreamNexaMac: do i need to reboot ven guide is ready ?22:49
NexaMacravestream: nope22:49
NexaMacjust startx22:49
ravestreamtnx22:49
NexaMaclet me know if it worked ^^22:49
ravestreamNexaMac: LOL ..22:50
ravestreamdont work..22:50
NexaMac:<22:50
NexaMacwhat happens?22:50
ravestreami guess i did wrong somewere22:50
NexaMacwell, what exactly happens? :p22:50
NexaMacblinking screen with loads of weird pixels?22:50
ravestreami got black and vite lines crossed onlu22:50
NexaMacresolution problem i guess22:51
NexaMactry again only use 1024x76822:51
NexaMacgive it a try at least22:51
NexaMac:p22:51
ravestreami vill brb22:51
ravestreamhmmm hove do i go out from xorg now when i cant se22:51
NexaMacreinstalling ubuntu on my desktop, its soooo tempting to hit "use entire disk"22:51
NexaMacctrl+alt+f122:51
Flare183!autostart22:52
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.22:52
jpatrickravestream: seems like a guy in #kubuntu-es is having the same problem..22:52
ravestreamjpatrick .. det är jag det :)22:52
ravestreamjpatrick: ubuntu-se u mean ?22:52
NexaMacguys, i have no clue anymore, for 2 gig of ram, should i limit my swap to 2048mb, or should i still doubel it?22:53
NexaMacdouble even22:53
adz21cNexaMac: i don't even have that for mine22:53
adz21ci left it at 512 ithink22:53
adz21ci RARELY even touch my swap with 2GB22:53
NexaMac:>22:53
SSJ_GZNexaMac: Are you going to be hibernating your computer?22:53
NexaMacSSJ_GZ: its either on, or its off.22:53
jpatrickravestream: no, the spanish one22:54
SSJ_GZNexaMac: Then what adz21c said :)22:54
NexaMacaight22:54
NexaMaccheers22:54
ed__Hmm, I think hibernating is pretty good in some ways - i like the prospect of saving the stuff to sawp and pretty much switching off.22:54
ed__*swap22:54
sven_ubuntu rocks :D22:56
wesleyi need the adept fix adept crashed22:57
sven_whats the newest ubuntu version? i've an updated feisty fawn22:57
NexaMacgutsy22:57
NexaMac7.1022:57
sven_uh stable i mean22:58
wesleythat gutsy22:58
sven_um how can i upgrade? :)22:58
wesleyadept crased how to fix?22:58
NexaMacravestream: still here?22:58
sven_NexaMac: ?22:59
NexaMac?22:59
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ravestreamNexaMac: yes .. still trying :)22:59
NexaMack :p22:59
NexaMacany luck?22:59
sven_NexaMac:  how to update to the newest ubuntu version22:59
NexaMacsven_: download it? :<23:00
ravestreamNexaMac: not yet23:00
sven_NexaMac:  -.-23:00
NexaMacthrough X or through console sven_?23:00
NexaMacterminal whatever23:00
sven_i've installed and configured my ubuntu install23:00
sven_X23:00
NexaMacthe updater23:00
sven_i just want to switch repos to the newest and update23:00
NexaMacthere should be a button there to update to 7.1023:00
sven_dist-upgrade or something like that23:00
wesleyadept crased how to fix?23:00
sven_NexaMac: where's that button? :D23:00
NexaMacwesley: kill it? :p23:01
ravestreamNexaMac: not yet23:01
NexaMacsven_: should be at the top off the update window o_O23:01
NexaMacravestream: you ARE using Vesa right?23:01
ravestreamNexaMac: yes23:01
NexaMachmm23:01
NexaMacstrange tbh23:01
NexaMacgot two computers?23:01
NexaMac>_>23:01
sven_NexaMac:  and where can i find this update window?23:01
NexaMaci take that back23:01
wesleyyou cant kill it there a fix ubotu gives it all the time to me23:01
ravestreamwell i got to the login page with proper res. but gets blank when i try to login23:01
NexaMacsven_: dont ask me, im used to gnome :P23:02
NexaMacaight ravestream, i had that same problem, couldnt fix it.. doubt its a graphic card problem..23:02
NexaMaci tried reinstalling drivers, tried vesa, tried everything, couldnt fix it :< reinstalling as were talking :p23:03
ravestreamNexaMac: well i give it 1 chans more the reinstall ..23:03
NexaMaci didnt try googling tho23:03
sven_NexaMac:  same here :P23:03
NexaMacravestream: you could try installing the drivers for your vid card tho23:03
NexaMaci can give you a link if yo uwant :)23:03
NexaMacyou*23:03
ravestreamNexaMac: please :)23:03
NexaMacravestream: http://ubuntusoftware.info/beryl.html#nvidia23:04
NexaMacnow afk for some guitar hero while my system finishes :) back in five23:05
wesleyadept crased and now its closed how can i fix it please i need the adept fix23:05
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ravestreamNexaMac: tnx 4 the help .. play well :)23:06
wesley'please ubotu i need the adept fix23:07
lobashallo23:08
wesleyadept is crasedand the data base is closed now how to fix23:08
NexaMacback23:08
stdin!aptfix | wesley23:09
ubotuwesley: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »23:09
stdinwesley: ubotu is a bot, use !aptfix to get it to give you the "aptfix" factoid23:09
wesleyi going make me file wat te doen bij adept crash23:10
wesleyit happens often that adept crashed23:11
wesleyfor example when installing java via adept it will crash23:12
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sMonkHello23:13
NexaMac!hi23:14
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!23:14
Schuenemannwhere is the file kwin.rc ?23:14
colorlessblueide!apt23:14
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)23:14
sMonkDoesn't KDE 4 come out today?23:14
adz21cSchuenemann: ~/.kde/share/config23:15
Schuenemannadz21c, thanks23:17
legs1x1hody all23:18
yodazhi23:21
yodazhappy new year all23:21
yodazwhere can I edit the list of website for which konqueror store / don't store password ?23:22
flithmsMonk: it sure does!23:23
flithmsMonk: I'm pretty stoked about it... can't wait for ubuntu packages! :)23:24
NexaMacfinal release? :|23:24
SSJ_GZyodaz: ~/.kde/share/apps/khtml/formcompletions23:24
sMonkSame here23:24
artur_Hello. When i installed Kubuntu the step that i set a password for ROOT was skipped (i don't know why) but i could use kubuntu with SUDO. But yesterday i had to became ROOT, but i don't have the password. I've tried to use a Live CD, because in this way i'd have the root password, and then edit the /etc/shadow and in the line of root deleting what is between the 1st and 2nd ':' and make it become like this root::13849:0:99999:7::: The23:25
artur_problem was that when i went back to kubuntu a problem happened and i had to execute FSCK. After this, the result wasn't what was desired. Detail in the /etc/shadow:  root:!:13849:0:99999:7:::  In this this '!' is because no password was set.23:25
NexaMacartur_:  there is no root password23:25
NexaMacsudo su23:25
legs1x1artur_:  use $sudo su23:26
stdinno, sudo -i23:26
legs1x1then put in your pass23:26
artur_sudo su worked!23:26
legs1x1:)23:26
NexaMac.23:26
flithmanyone what the plan is with kd4?  how long after its release will packages be avail?23:26
artur_and now,  passwd ??23:26
NexaMacYOUR password23:26
stdinflithm: as soon as humanly possible23:27
flithmstdin: :>23:27
NexaMacartur_: the one you usually use for your regular user23:27
legs1x1yah kde4 is why I am here23:27
legs1x1is it in any reps?23:27
legs1x1besides RC223:27
flithmlegs1x1: it's not release just yet... another hour or something :)23:27
sMonkflithm: I wonder how easy the upgrade from 3.5.8 to 4 will be.. if there will be any issues23:27
legs1x1Damn the suspense...23:27
stdinit should hopefully be in -backports by tomorrow, but it'll be in the PPA too23:27
yodazSSJ_GZ: thx :)23:27
artur_Thanks folks!! ;)23:27
SSJ_GZyodaz: np :)23:27
NexaMacnp artur_23:28
flithmsMonk: from what I've been told, it's not an "upgrade" you install them side by side, so you can always go back to using kde3 apps and uninstall kde423:28
sMonkI know this isn't Winblows, but no one is perfect lol (Kubuntu is darn close tho)23:28
stdinsMonk: for now they will exist separately, so you'll have kde3 and kde423:28
legs1x1artur_: good luck23:28
sMonkOh yea?23:28
flithmstdin: nice!  good job to all involved for getting it out so quickly... awesome!23:28
sMonkI guess that's a good thing.. lol, until all the "bugs" ok.. realisitic, the BAD bugs are worked out23:29
Greenerywill the panel for KDE4 in Kubuntu different?23:29
stdinsome kde4 apps weren't ready for kde4 release (like amarok) so they'll need some kde3 bits anyway23:30
sMonkSo I take it one day (probably a year or more from now, it will be "safe" enough to rid of 3.5.823:31
Schuenemannmy fonts in non-KDE applications (firefox and thunderbird) are too big, what can I do?23:32
TheWhiteRookIt would be nice if they waited until software was decently ready for use before they put it out... seems to be a trend lately.23:32
sMonkTheWhiteRook: That's probably why they are making it side by side23:32
NexaMacravestream: getting anywhere? :p23:32
stdinsMonk: we think my KDE 4.1, which will hopefully be out in time for hardy23:33
chris062689Is there a good IRC client for GNOME?23:33
NexaMacchris062689: irssi or konversation? :)23:33
chris062689well, I'd like to stay GNOME-only23:33
chris062689even though I love KDE, I don't like to mix and match.23:33
flithmchris062689: strangely enough I prefer pidgin :)23:33
NexaMackonversation23:33
chris062689pidgin..23:33
chris062689Does IRC?23:33
sMonkYeah? Good to know. LoL Probably the same time, 2 big upgrades23:33
chris062689I never knew that :P23:33
chris062689I love pidgin.23:33
flithmchris062689: yeah it actually does a decent job of it too23:33
ravestreamNexaMac: no going to reinstall .. it was installed yesterday so i don lose anythin.. and i going to try ubunto 7.1023:34
flithmchris062689: tab complete, dcc, auto msg nickserv, hide join / parts in a smart way, etc23:34
NexaMackonversation for k/ubuntu, jsircci or whatever for mac, and mirc for winlol :<23:34
stdinsMonk: hopefully it'll be before hardy, we want 8.04 to be KDE4 by default so it'd be nice to have 4.123:34
NexaMacravestream: gl23:35
sMonkVery true. I don't care, my wife don't either as long as I don't play around again and loose everything. lol23:35
sMonkagain23:35
segfault2khey kde 4.0 its in ppa, but i cant get it to work, when i choose kde4 from kdm it restart x server (btw, sorry my english)23:36
flithmsegfault2k: 4.0 final is in PPA?!?23:37
segfault2kyeah23:37
segfault2klook23:37
segfault2kConfigurando kdenetwork-kde4 (4:4.0.0-0ubuntu1~gutsy1~ppa1) ...23:37
flithmsweet!23:37
segfault2kyeah, but i have the same problem that i had with rc2, it just restart x server :(23:38
flithmsegfault2k: where on ppa are you looking?23:38
segfault2kdeb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu gutsy main23:39
JuJuBeeAnybody having problems using openoffice and creating forms?  Every time I try to create a form, it crashes.23:39
flithmsegfault2k: I still see it hasn't been updated since dec 10?23:39
segfault2kxD23:39
segfault2kapt-get update d00d23:40
flithmsegfault2k: I'm just looking with the web browser... they haven't changed any packages in there since last month23:40
sMonkJuJuBee: What ver?23:41
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JuJuBee2.2.023:41
segfault2kflithm: u want screenshot ?23:41
flithmsegfault2k: no it's okay :)23:42
segfault2k:P23:42
sMonksorry, cant help you, I was going to check but I have 2.323:42
thewhitepelicanis anyone using kde 4 rc2?23:42
sMonkJust the livecd the odd time23:43
holasomeone knows where is the configuration file that start compiz at startup?23:44
TheWhiteRookI tried KDE 4 rc2, but it was buggy enough that I went back to 3.523:44
segfault2kkde4 is released in ppa23:44
segfault2k:B23:44
holasegfault2k: what ppa means23:45
segfault2kpublic mirror23:45
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TheWhiteRookjudging by the state of rc2, though, KDE4 won't be ready unless they did some MAJOR work on it.23:45
thewhitepelicanah, so it's isn't just me23:46
segfault2klol23:46
thewhitepelicanpersonally, I think they should delay it and work out all the kinks23:46
TheWhiteRook*nod*23:46
thewhitepelicani thought maybe it was because I'm running it through vmware23:46
sMonkTheWhiteRook: I know when I used the livecd it was shakey on my Kubuntu box, but the guys in #kde are talking about KDE4 on other builds and they are all saying that Kubuntu is having problems with KDE4 (in a nutshell)23:46
thewhitepelicanis it just kubuntu?23:47
TheWhiteRookmmm. sure, blame it on the distro :P23:47
sMonkNo no, I love Kubuntu. It's all I use23:47
sMonkBut a few of them with Suse boxes say it works good23:47
TheWhiteRooksMonk: I'm talking about the #kde people23:47
thewhitepelicanis it available with *choke gasp* open suse?23:48
sMonkAHH.. lol sorry23:49
flithmsegfault2k: sorry I take it back you were right, kde4 is in ppa23:49
segfault2k:P23:49
segfault2knp man23:49
thewhitepelicanrtm :)23:49
segfault2kdamn i cant run kde4 :@23:49
segfault2kit just restart X sessionm23:49
TheWhiteRookhmmm. sounds like it runs worse for you than it did for me :P23:50
segfault2kyeah23:50
segfault2k:(23:50
sMonkthat's crappy23:50
segfault2ki think its my fault but whatever XD23:50
Zombocomhey guys I have a laptop with several buttons on the top23:50
TheWhiteRookI was irritated particularly by the lack of working right click stuff on the panel23:50
Zombocomand my display got messed up so I reconfigured the Xserver23:50
Zombocomand most of the top buttons that I use23:50
Zombocomwork23:51
Zombocomexept for the volume ones23:51
Zombocomhold up23:51
Zombocomhow do I restore to the old xserver23:51
Zombocombecause I know you can go back and look23:51
sMonksegfault2k: Do what I do.. when Linux messes up on me.. just blame Microsoft, even though I don't run Windows, it helps me to believe that it's not my fault23:52
NexaMacsMonk: good plan23:52
flithmis there a kde4 meta package that installs all of kde4?23:52
chris062689Wish there was.23:52
flithmoh hahah kde423:52
flithmthere is23:52
stdinflithm: not yet, there well be by tomorrow23:52
chris062689Really?23:52
TheWhiteRookI don't think all of kde4 is there to install :P23:52
flithmstdin: oh no... I see kde4 in there23:53
chris062689Is it RC2? or...23:53
thewhitepelicanit is and it aint23:53
stdinflithm: on gutsy or hardy?23:53
flithmstdin: gutsy23:53
stdinwhat package name?23:53
segfault2ksMonk jajajaja lol! XD23:53
sMonkZombocom: Do you mean that your volume buttons don't work at ALL? or just the little green (colour?) dashes don't show?23:53
thewhitepelicanI'm on gutasy through vmware and kde4 is very crashy23:53
Zombocomthey don't work23:53
flithmstdin: ahh n/m it's rc2 I think23:53
segfault2ksMonk:  lollll xD23:53
thewhitepelicangutsy&23:53
mm_workwhats an easy way to see which groups a user belongs to thru bash?23:53
stdinflithm: what package name is it, I know I haven't put it on gutsy yet23:54
ZombocomsMonk the play/pause, stop, next track, and last track buttons all still work23:54
Zombocomhow do I restore to an old xorg.conf file?23:54
Zombocomjust rename the one xorg.conf.1?23:54
segfault2ksystemsettings-kde4_4%3a4.0.0-0ubuntu1~gutsy1~ppa1_i386.deb23:54
segfault2kkonqueror-kde4_4%3a4.0.0-0ubuntu1~gutsy1~ppa1_i386.deb23:54
segfault2ketc.. :B23:54
flithmstdin: it's kde4 version 2~gutsy1~ppa123:54
TheWhiteRooknone of my media buttons work23:54
SchuenemannZombocom, if that's a backup, yes23:54
sMonkZombocom: usually that is the case... depends on how many times you changed it tho.23:54
sMonkif it's just once, then yeah, that should be your backup23:55
sMonksegfault2k: thought you'd like that suggestion23:55
segfault2kyeah! xD23:55
ZombocomI've only changed it once, I ran locate: xorg.conf and only 1 file came up as xorg.conf.#23:55
segfault2ki'm feeling better XD23:55
Zombocomand it was xorg.conf.123:56
Zombocomso I just rename it to xorg.conf23:56
Zombocomok23:56
sMonkBUT!! 1st take the one you have and name it to xorg.conf.2 JUST incase you loose more than just your volume23:56
sMonk(I speak from exp)23:57
sMonklol23:57
Zombocomlol23:57
ZombocomI'll make sure to do that23:57
stdinflithm: ahh it was just uploaded23:57
flithmstdin: so it's okay to use that kde4 meta package?23:57
sMonk:) np23:57
stdinflithm: it may or may not work just yet, if you can try it and post the result to pasteben that'd be a great help :)23:58
segfault2kive installed ppa's kde423:58
flithmstdin: also, when I add the ppa repo to my sources file, it wants to update a bunch of kde3 apps, is that right?23:58
segfault2kand i can't run it, it just restart x server :(23:58
stdinflithm: yes it is, it's so kde3/4 can integrate properly23:59
Zombocomok23:59
flithmstdin: should I just wait till tommorrow or is this safe? :)23:59

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