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| danilos | you? | 14:01 |
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| jtv | me? | 14:01 |
| barry | mii | 14:01 |
| ddaa | self | 14:01 |
| bac | yo | 14:02 |
| sinzui | I | 14:02 |
| SteveA | Who is chairing today's meeting? | 14:02 |
| danilos | kiko or someone he delegates :) | 14:02 |
| danilos | that's what the MeetingAgenda says | 14:02 |
| SteveA | who has kiko delegated? | 14:02 |
| SteveA | BjornT_: would you run today's meeting? | 14:03 |
| danilos | apparently, nobody | 14:03 |
| BjornT_ | SteveA: sure, i'll do it | 14:04 |
| SteveA | thanks | 14:04 |
| BjornT_ | so, roll call. who's here? | 14:04 |
| jtv | me | 14:04 |
| mrevell | me | 14:04 |
| SteveA | me | 14:04 |
| matsubara | me | 14:04 |
| flacoste | me | 14:04 |
| mpt | me | 14:04 |
| schwuk | me | 14:04 |
| bac | me | 14:04 |
| statik | me | 14:04 |
| jamesh | me | 14:04 |
| barry | me | 14:04 |
| adeuring | me | 14:04 |
| ddaa | me | 14:04 |
| stub | me | 14:05 |
| sinzui | me | 14:05 |
| intellectronica | me | 14:05 |
| salgado | me | 14:05 |
| mthaddon | me | 14:05 |
| allenap | me | 14:05 |
| danilos | me | 14:06 |
| gmb | me. | 14:07 |
| BjornT_ | == Agenda == | 14:07 |
| gmb | Sorry. | 14:07 |
| BjornT_ | * Roll call | 14:07 |
| BjornT_ | * Agenda | 14:07 |
| BjornT_ | * Next meeting | 14:07 |
| BjornT_ | * Actions from last meeting | 14:07 |
| BjornT_ | * Oops report (Matsubara) | 14:07 |
| leonardr | me | 14:07 |
| BjornT_ | * Critical Bugs (Rinchen) | 14:07 |
| BjornT_ | * Bug tags | 14:07 |
| BjornT_ | * Operations report (mthaddon) | 14:07 |
| BjornT_ | * DBA report (stub) | 14:07 |
| BjornT_ | * Sysadmin requests (Rinchen) | 14:08 |
| BjornT_ | * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell) | 14:08 |
| BjornT_ | ---- | 14:08 |
| BjornT_ | * Test plans ownership (flacoste) | 14:08 |
| BjornT_ | * Add your bug feed to your website (mrevell) | 14:08 |
| BjornT_ | ---- | 14:08 |
| BjornT_ | * Blockers | 14:08 |
| BjornT_ | who will not be here for the meeting next week? | 14:09 |
| BjornT_ | ok. so next meeting will be as usual, 17th jan, 1400 UTC | 14:09 |
| BjornT_ | * Actions from last meeting | 14:09 |
| BjornT_ | there were no actions from the last meeting | 14:10 |
| BjornT_ | * Oops report (Matsubara) | 14:10 |
| matsubara | Today's oops report is about bugs 181772, 181770 | 14:10 |
| ubotu | Bug 181772 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/181772 is private | 14:10 |
| matsubara | bigjools: can you take181772? | 14:10 |
| matsubara | I've chatted with flacoste about #181770 already and assigned to him | 14:11 |
| matsubara | bigjools: ? | 14:11 |
| bigjools | hi | 14:13 |
| matsubara | am I lagged? | 14:13 |
| SteveA | bug 181770 | 14:13 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 181770 in launchpad "Oops deleting a package link" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181770 | 14:13 |
| bigjools | matsubara: I can take that | 14:14 |
| SteveA | matsubara: I don't think you are lagged | 14:14 |
| ddaa | I'd be happy to take that | 14:14 |
| matsubara | thanks bigjools | 14:14 |
| matsubara | ddaa: please coordinate with flacoste about it. thanks for volunteering | 14:14 |
| flacoste | ddaa: if you mean 181770, yes, I think it's a fallout from your branch | 14:14 |
| ddaa | flacoste: indeed | 14:14 |
| BjornT_ | ok, let's move on. there has been an amendment to the agenda. SteveA has an item now. | 14:15 |
| matsubara | BjornT_: I'm done with oops reports. I'll move on to Joey's critical bugs | 14:15 |
| BjornT_ | * launchpad-security team (SteveA) | 14:15 |
| matsubara | BjornT_: ok, go on | 14:15 |
| matsubara | SteveA: stage is yours :-) | 14:15 |
| SteveA | thanks | 14:16 |
| carlos | sorry, I forgot the meeting completely... | 14:16 |
| SteveA | right now, we have the launchpad-security team | 14:16 |
| SteveA | and it is automatically subscribed to bugs that are marked as related to security | 14:16 |
| SteveA | the problem with that is that we often need to have private bugs for launchpad that are not related to security | 14:17 |
| SteveA | so, there's a lot of noise for members of launchpad-security | 14:17 |
| SteveA | both in bugs that that team is subscribed to | 14:17 |
| SteveA | and in new bugs being temporarily subscribed to, and then unsubscribed | 14:18 |
| SteveA | I'm going to work around this by creating a new team: launchpad-security-autosubscribed | 14:18 |
| mpt | SteveA, currently "Launchpad Developers" is a member of "Launchpad Security" | 14:18 |
| SteveA | that will have launchpad developers as a member, and will be the security contact for launchpad projects | 14:19 |
| SteveA | we'll need to manually subscribe the "real" launchpad-security team to bugs that are really security issues | 14:19 |
| mpt | so "members of launchpad-security" means "all the developers" | 14:19 |
| SteveA | we have some outside help on launchpad-security, including james troup and kees cook | 14:19 |
| mpt | yes | 14:19 |
| barry | SteveA: doesn't it (perhaps also) make sense to have a separate checkbox for "this is a private (not security) bug" or somesuch? currently the workflow for private-not-security bugs is a pita | 14:19 |
| cprov | me (sorry) | 14:19 |
| SteveA | barry: yes, I've separately proposed better support for projects like launchpad | 14:20 |
| SteveA | barry: that will take a while to get done | 14:20 |
| barry | SteveA: cool, thanks | 14:20 |
| SteveA | barry: it's with the lpcomm team | 14:20 |
| SteveA | so, I'll be doing this change today | 14:20 |
| SteveA | any questions? | 14:20 |
| SteveA | 4 | 14:20 |
| SteveA | 3 | 14:21 |
| SteveA | 2 | 14:21 |
| SteveA | 1 | 14:21 |
| SteveA | thank you | 14:21 |
| BjornT_ | ok, thanks | 14:21 |
| BjornT_ | * Critical Bugs (matsubara) | 14:21 |
| EdwinGrubbs | me, sorry I'm late | 14:21 |
| matsubara | We have two critical bugs not yet started: bug 181766 and bug 181771. | 14:21 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 181766 in launchpad "fix mailing list message headers and footers" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181766 | 14:21 |
| ubotu | Bug 181771 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/181771 is private | 14:21 |
| matsubara | barry, do you have a status report about them? | 14:21 |
| flacoste | why are those critical? | 14:22 |
| barry | matsubara: i just reported them about 10 minutes ago :) | 14:22 |
| barry | flacoste: sorry, they shouldn't have been critical, but high | 14:22 |
| * barry will fix | 14:22 | |
| matsubara | barry: all right | 14:22 |
| matsubara | so, no critical bugs atm | 14:23 |
| matsubara | BjornT_: I'm done here. | 14:23 |
| barry | fixed | 14:23 |
| BjornT_ | * Bug tags | 14:23 |
| BjornT_ | no new tags have been proposed | 14:23 |
| BjornT_ | * Operations report (mthaddon) | 14:23 |
| mthaddon | Staging update script in progress | 14:23 |
| mthaddon | Staging supermirror rewritemap script now in place | 14:23 |
| mthaddon | Staging mailman complete (I believe?) | 14:23 |
| mthaddon | Scheduled downtime tomorrow to enable BBWC and for a PostgreSQL security update | 14:23 |
| mthaddon | Any final comments on the paramiko/bzr upgrade tests before we roll those out to all LP servers? | 14:23 |
| mthaddon | That's it from me unless there are any questions | 14:23 |
| barry | mthaddon: YES! thanks so much | 14:23 |
| mthaddon | cool | 14:24 |
| barry | mthaddon: we may want to run a few more tests (including a full rebuild) once my branch that flacoste is reviewing lands | 14:24 |
| mthaddon | barry, absolutely - just let me know when | 14:24 |
| barry | mthaddon: great, thanks | 14:24 |
| BjornT_ | ok, moving on | 14:25 |
| BjornT_ | * DBA report (stub) | 14:25 |
| stub | DB patch review call happened today with Mark. A couple of patches will | 14:25 |
| stub | get name changes. Two are rejected (bugs forwarded upstream, | 14:25 |
| stub | and bugs fixed elsewhere/upstream). I'll be doing the formal reviews tomorrow. | 14:25 |
| stub | Nothing else happening. | 14:25 |
| BjornT_ | any questions for stub? | 14:25 |
| BjornT_ | 4 | 14:25 |
| BjornT_ | 3 | 14:25 |
| BjornT_ | 2 | 14:26 |
| BjornT_ | 1 | 14:26 |
| BjornT_ | * Sysadmin requests (Rinchen) | 14:26 |
| BjornT_ | anyone have any outstanding rt requests rinchen should know about? | 14:26 |
| BjornT_ | 5 | 14:26 |
| BjornT_ | 4 | 14:26 |
| BjornT_ | 3 | 14:26 |
| BjornT_ | 2 | 14:26 |
| BjornT_ | 1 | 14:26 |
| BjornT_ | * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell) | 14:26 |
| mrevell | Howdy | 14:27 |
| mrevell | Hello. Today's user-affecting issue is related to bug 60915. | 14:27 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 60915 in usplash "usplash messes up colors on console" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60915 | 14:27 |
| mrevell | At present, non-authenticated users see an obfuscated version of email addresses in bug comments. | 14:27 |
| mrevell | However, email addresses in bug comments are still displayed to logged-in users. | 14:27 |
| mrevell | This has caused a complaint from someone who has reported a bug to Cocinella project. The bug reporter felt that as they had chosen to hide their email address in Launchpad it should not appear in bug comments at all. | 14:27 |
| danilos | mrevell: is it really 60915? | 14:28 |
| mrevell | danilos: Thank you, no, not that one. Sorry. | 14:28 |
| SteveA | I see one email address there | 14:28 |
| mrevell | bug 60195 | 14:28 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 60195 in launchpad-answers "May need to obfuscate email addresses in comments" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60195 | 14:28 |
| SteveA | at the domain paul.sladen.org | 14:28 |
| SteveA | is that the email address being objected to? | 14:28 |
| mrevell | The bug that caused the complaint is: bug 180132 | 14:28 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 180132 in coccinella "Login settings are not saved" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180132 | 14:29 |
| mrevell | comments 1 and 3 include the email address and comment 11 is where the reporter asked for removal | 14:29 |
| SteveA | what's bug 60915 then? | 14:29 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 60915 in usplash "usplash messes up colors on console" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60915 | 14:29 |
| mrevell | SteveA: A typo on my part. Sorry. | 14:29 |
| BjornT_ | mrevell: could you file a bug or send a mail to the list about this? we won't be able to come up with a solution in this meeting. | 14:29 |
| mrevell | BjornT_: Thank you. I shall file a bug. | 14:29 |
| BjornT_ | thanks | 14:29 |
| carlos | SteveA: do we parse and hide email addresses included in bug comment text ? | 14:30 |
| BjornT_ | * Test plans ownership (flacoste) | 14:30 |
| SteveA | carlos: yes, but only for non-loggedin-users | 14:30 |
| carlos | SteveA: because that other bug has an email address because someone added it manually | 14:30 |
| carlos | I see, ok | 14:30 |
| bigjools | the same obfuscation takes place in package changelogs | 14:30 |
| flacoste | hmm, ok, i think i remember what this was about | 14:30 |
| flacoste | i want to know on which team test plan a bug or blueprint should appear | 14:31 |
| flacoste | is it on the team's responsible for the functional area | 14:31 |
| flacoste | or the team of the person who will test the bug | 14:31 |
| SteveA | mrevell: please make sure the person who complained and the person who inadvertantly posted their mail address knows that we care. | 14:31 |
| mrevell | SteveA: I shall. | 14:31 |
| BjornT_ | flacoste: that sounds like a question better suited for the list, doesn't it? | 14:31 |
| flacoste | BjornT_: probably | 14:32 |
| flacoste | i'll email the list about it | 14:32 |
| flacoste | i think there was some other issue, but can't recall (i posted that item nearly one month ago) | 14:32 |
| BjornT_ | flacoste: cool. i'm curious about the answer myself :) | 14:32 |
| BjornT_ | * Add your bug feed to your website (mrevell) | 14:32 |
| mrevell | I've placed my bug feed on my home page at http://www.understated.co.uk/ | 14:33 |
| mrevell | It'd be great to see other people do something similar on their website, so that we can demonstrate the feeds feature we introduced with 1.1.12. | 14:33 |
| mrevell | It's very easy to do using MagpieRSS, Wordpress and tools such as http://wigitize.com/ | 14:33 |
| mrevell | I've posted a quick Wordpress how to at: | 14:33 |
| mrevell | http://www.understated.co.uk/2008/launchpad-bug-feeds-in-wordpress/ | 14:33 |
| mrevell | I'm keen to see how people are using their feeds, so please post links to the launchpad-users list if you go ahead. | 14:34 |
| mrevell | Thanks, back to BjornT_ | 14:34 |
| BjornT_ | thanks mrevell | 14:34 |
| BjornT_ | * Blockers | 14:34 |
| mrevell | Releases: not blocked | 14:34 |
| BjornT_ | Bugs: not blocked | 14:34 |
| jtv | Translations team: Not blocked | 14:34 |
| flacoste | Foundations: not blocked | 14:34 |
| SteveA | SC: not blocked | 14:34 |
| schwuk | HWDB: not blocked | 14:34 |
| ddaa | Code: dunno, just came back from vacation and have not synced up yet. Presumably not blocked. | 14:35 |
| statik | lpcomm: not blocked | 14:35 |
| bigjools | Soyuz Team: not blocked | 14:35 |
| BjornT_ | ok, that should be everyone. thanks for coming! | 14:36 |
| BjornT_ | MEETING ENDED | 14:36 |
| schwuk | Thanks BjornT_ | 14:36 |
| statik | thanks for running the meeting BjornT_ | 14:36 |
| matsubara | Thanks BjornT_ | 14:36 |
| SteveA | thank you BjornT_. very smooth. | 14:36 |
| mrevell | thanks all | 14:36 |
| barry | thanks BjornT_ | 14:37 |
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