=== bigjools-afk is now known as bigjools === cprov-out is now known as cprov [14:01] you? [14:01] me? [14:01] mii [14:01] self [14:02] yo [14:02] I [14:02] Who is chairing today's meeting? [14:02] kiko or someone he delegates :) [14:02] that's what the MeetingAgenda says [14:02] who has kiko delegated? [14:03] BjornT_: would you run today's meeting? [14:03] apparently, nobody [14:04] SteveA: sure, i'll do it [14:04] thanks [14:04] so, roll call. who's here? [14:04] me [14:04] me [14:04] me [14:04] me [14:04] me [14:04] me [14:04] me [14:04] me [14:04] me [14:04] me [14:04] me [14:04] me [14:04] me [14:05] me [14:05] me [14:05] me [14:05] me [14:05] me [14:05] me [14:06] me [14:07] me. [14:07] == Agenda == [14:07] Sorry. [14:07] * Roll call [14:07] * Agenda [14:07] * Next meeting [14:07] * Actions from last meeting [14:07] * Oops report (Matsubara) [14:07] me [14:07] * Critical Bugs (Rinchen) [14:07] * Bug tags [14:07] * Operations report (mthaddon) [14:07] * DBA report (stub) [14:08] * Sysadmin requests (Rinchen) [14:08] * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell) [14:08] ---- [14:08] * Test plans ownership (flacoste) [14:08] * Add your bug feed to your website (mrevell) [14:08] ---- [14:08] * Blockers [14:09] who will not be here for the meeting next week? [14:09] ok. so next meeting will be as usual, 17th jan, 1400 UTC [14:09] * Actions from last meeting [14:10] there were no actions from the last meeting [14:10] * Oops report (Matsubara) [14:10] Today's oops report is about bugs 181772, 181770 [14:10] Bug 181772 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/181772 is private [14:10] bigjools: can you take181772? [14:11] I've chatted with flacoste about #181770 already and assigned to him [14:11] bigjools: ? [14:13] hi [14:13] am I lagged? [14:13] bug 181770 [14:13] Launchpad bug 181770 in launchpad "Oops deleting a package link" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181770 [14:14] matsubara: I can take that [14:14] matsubara: I don't think you are lagged [14:14] I'd be happy to take that [14:14] thanks bigjools [14:14] ddaa: please coordinate with flacoste about it. thanks for volunteering [14:14] ddaa: if you mean 181770, yes, I think it's a fallout from your branch [14:14] flacoste: indeed [14:15] ok, let's move on. there has been an amendment to the agenda. SteveA has an item now. [14:15] BjornT_: I'm done with oops reports. I'll move on to Joey's critical bugs [14:15] * launchpad-security team (SteveA) [14:15] BjornT_: ok, go on [14:15] SteveA: stage is yours :-) [14:16] thanks [14:16] sorry, I forgot the meeting completely... [14:16] right now, we have the launchpad-security team [14:16] and it is automatically subscribed to bugs that are marked as related to security [14:17] the problem with that is that we often need to have private bugs for launchpad that are not related to security [14:17] so, there's a lot of noise for members of launchpad-security [14:17] both in bugs that that team is subscribed to [14:18] and in new bugs being temporarily subscribed to, and then unsubscribed [14:18] I'm going to work around this by creating a new team: launchpad-security-autosubscribed [14:18] SteveA, currently "Launchpad Developers" is a member of "Launchpad Security" [14:19] that will have launchpad developers as a member, and will be the security contact for launchpad projects [14:19] we'll need to manually subscribe the "real" launchpad-security team to bugs that are really security issues [14:19] so "members of launchpad-security" means "all the developers" [14:19] we have some outside help on launchpad-security, including james troup and kees cook [14:19] yes [14:19] SteveA: doesn't it (perhaps also) make sense to have a separate checkbox for "this is a private (not security) bug" or somesuch? currently the workflow for private-not-security bugs is a pita [14:19] me (sorry) [14:20] barry: yes, I've separately proposed better support for projects like launchpad [14:20] barry: that will take a while to get done [14:20] SteveA: cool, thanks [14:20] barry: it's with the lpcomm team [14:20] so, I'll be doing this change today [14:20] any questions? [14:20] 4 [14:21] 3 [14:21] 2 [14:21] 1 [14:21] thank you [14:21] ok, thanks [14:21] * Critical Bugs (matsubara) [14:21] me, sorry I'm late [14:21] We have two critical bugs not yet started: bug 181766 and bug 181771. [14:21] Launchpad bug 181766 in launchpad "fix mailing list message headers and footers" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181766 [14:21] Bug 181771 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/181771 is private [14:21] barry, do you have a status report about them? [14:22] why are those critical? [14:22] matsubara: i just reported them about 10 minutes ago :) [14:22] flacoste: sorry, they shouldn't have been critical, but high [14:22] * barry will fix [14:22] barry: all right [14:23] so, no critical bugs atm [14:23] BjornT_: I'm done here. [14:23] fixed [14:23] * Bug tags [14:23] no new tags have been proposed [14:23] * Operations report (mthaddon) [14:23] Staging update script in progress [14:23] Staging supermirror rewritemap script now in place [14:23] Staging mailman complete (I believe?) [14:23] Scheduled downtime tomorrow to enable BBWC and for a PostgreSQL security update [14:23] Any final comments on the paramiko/bzr upgrade tests before we roll those out to all LP servers? [14:23] That's it from me unless there are any questions [14:23] mthaddon: YES! thanks so much [14:24] cool [14:24] mthaddon: we may want to run a few more tests (including a full rebuild) once my branch that flacoste is reviewing lands [14:24] barry, absolutely - just let me know when [14:24] mthaddon: great, thanks [14:25] ok, moving on [14:25] * DBA report (stub) [14:25] DB patch review call happened today with Mark. A couple of patches will [14:25] get name changes. Two are rejected (bugs forwarded upstream, [14:25] and bugs fixed elsewhere/upstream). I'll be doing the formal reviews tomorrow. [14:25] Nothing else happening. [14:25] any questions for stub? [14:25] 4 [14:25] 3 [14:26] 2 [14:26] 1 [14:26] * Sysadmin requests (Rinchen) [14:26] anyone have any outstanding rt requests rinchen should know about? [14:26] 5 [14:26] 4 [14:26] 3 [14:26] 2 [14:26] 1 [14:26] * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell) [14:27] Howdy [14:27] Hello. Today's user-affecting issue is related to bug 60915. [14:27] Launchpad bug 60915 in usplash "usplash messes up colors on console" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60915 [14:27] At present, non-authenticated users see an obfuscated version of email addresses in bug comments. [14:27] However, email addresses in bug comments are still displayed to logged-in users. [14:27] This has caused a complaint from someone who has reported a bug to Cocinella project. The bug reporter felt that as they had chosen to hide their email address in Launchpad it should not appear in bug comments at all. [14:28] mrevell: is it really 60915? [14:28] danilos: Thank you, no, not that one. Sorry. [14:28] I see one email address there [14:28] bug 60195 [14:28] Launchpad bug 60195 in launchpad-answers "May need to obfuscate email addresses in comments" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60195 [14:28] at the domain paul.sladen.org [14:28] is that the email address being objected to? [14:28] The bug that caused the complaint is: bug 180132 [14:29] Launchpad bug 180132 in coccinella "Login settings are not saved" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180132 [14:29] comments 1 and 3 include the email address and comment 11 is where the reporter asked for removal [14:29] what's bug 60915 then? [14:29] Launchpad bug 60915 in usplash "usplash messes up colors on console" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60915 [14:29] SteveA: A typo on my part. Sorry. [14:29] mrevell: could you file a bug or send a mail to the list about this? we won't be able to come up with a solution in this meeting. [14:29] BjornT_: Thank you. I shall file a bug. [14:29] thanks [14:30] SteveA: do we parse and hide email addresses included in bug comment text ? [14:30] * Test plans ownership (flacoste) [14:30] carlos: yes, but only for non-loggedin-users [14:30] SteveA: because that other bug has an email address because someone added it manually [14:30] I see, ok [14:30] the same obfuscation takes place in package changelogs [14:30] hmm, ok, i think i remember what this was about [14:31] i want to know on which team test plan a bug or blueprint should appear [14:31] is it on the team's responsible for the functional area [14:31] or the team of the person who will test the bug [14:31] mrevell: please make sure the person who complained and the person who inadvertantly posted their mail address knows that we care. [14:31] SteveA: I shall. [14:31] flacoste: that sounds like a question better suited for the list, doesn't it? [14:32] BjornT_: probably [14:32] i'll email the list about it [14:32] i think there was some other issue, but can't recall (i posted that item nearly one month ago) [14:32] flacoste: cool. i'm curious about the answer myself :) [14:32] * Add your bug feed to your website (mrevell) [14:33] I've placed my bug feed on my home page at http://www.understated.co.uk/ [14:33] It'd be great to see other people do something similar on their website, so that we can demonstrate the feeds feature we introduced with 1.1.12. [14:33] It's very easy to do using MagpieRSS, Wordpress and tools such as http://wigitize.com/ [14:33] I've posted a quick Wordpress how to at: [14:33] http://www.understated.co.uk/2008/launchpad-bug-feeds-in-wordpress/ [14:34] I'm keen to see how people are using their feeds, so please post links to the launchpad-users list if you go ahead. [14:34] Thanks, back to BjornT_ [14:34] thanks mrevell [14:34] * Blockers [14:34] Releases: not blocked [14:34] Bugs: not blocked [14:34] Translations team: Not blocked [14:34] Foundations: not blocked [14:34] SC: not blocked [14:34] HWDB: not blocked [14:35] Code: dunno, just came back from vacation and have not synced up yet. Presumably not blocked. [14:35] lpcomm: not blocked [14:35] Soyuz Team: not blocked [14:36] ok, that should be everyone. thanks for coming! [14:36] MEETING ENDED [14:36] Thanks BjornT_ [14:36] thanks for running the meeting BjornT_ [14:36] Thanks BjornT_ [14:36] thank you BjornT_. very smooth. [14:36] thanks all [14:37] thanks BjornT_ === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado === salgado is now known as salgado-afk === cprov is now known as cprov-out