[15:41] <alsadk> what i need to programing java programs
[15:41] <alsadk> ??
[15:44] <man-di> alsadk: and editor and a java compiler at least
[15:44] <man-di> a/and/an/
[15:46] <alsadk> give me compiler name that i can programing gui programs with it 
[15:48] <man-di> what you probably want is an IDE
[15:48] <man-di> best to look at Eclipse or NetBeans
[15:49] <alsadk> ok is it good and shortcut a lot of codes to u?
[15:51] <man-di> it will help you
[15:52] <alsadk> can u try 2 download netbeans ?
[15:56] <man-di> alsadk: why should I?
[15:57] <alsadk> nv