[04:14] can somebody tell me if I can make an event file similar to control-alt-delete but keyed off of a different key combo? [04:14] (like kbrequest in inittab, keyed off of alt-uparrow) [09:30] hi again [09:33] have you ever tried to manage apache 1.3 with upstart? [09:33] i'm experiencing some issues [09:36] no [09:36] not yet [09:36] what issues are you experiencing? [09:36] well [09:37] if i launch apache without -F, it's started it correctly [09:37] what does -F do? [09:37] but it can't be stopped [09:37] foreground [09:37] if i launch it with -F [09:37] start apache-perl never returns [09:38] no idea, sorry [09:38] I don't know apache 1.3 well enough [09:38] i used -F when i used runit to manage it [09:39] is there any option in upstart i can try? [09:39] cuz the only option related to this in apache is -F [09:40] which is intended for supervisors [09:40] foolano: what do you mean by "it can't be stopped"? [09:41] right [09:41] -F sounds like the right option to me [09:41] the problem with -F is what i said [09:41] what's "start apache-perl" ? [09:41] oh [09:41] you ran that on the command-line? [09:41] yep [09:41] that's it [09:41] (you named the job "apache-perl" not "apache"? :P) [09:41] did you include "service" or "respawn" in your job definition? [09:42] just exec [09:43] right [09:43] with respawn [09:43] works just ok [09:43] :) [09:43] the default behaviour in Upstart for jobs is that they are tasks, not services [09:43] (since that's less destructive) [09:43] ok i c [09:43] my bad [09:44] thanks a lot :) [09:44] i thought respawn was just to rerun the job in case it exists [09:44] right [09:44] that's what it does [09:44] it also implies "service" [09:44] if you don't want it respawned, use "service" instead [09:45] i want it respawned [09:45] great [09:45] :) [09:45] thx again guys