| Riddell | Vorian: I don't see it here yet https://launchpad.net/~vorian/+archive | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| nixternal | CMake Error: Blitz_DIR is not set. It must be set to the directory containing BlitzConfig.cmake in order to use Blitz. | 00:05 |
| nixternal | bah! | 00:05 |
| Vorian | Riddell: it's comming | 00:05 |
| nixternal | wth is BlitzConfig.cmake? | 00:06 |
| Vorian | nixternal: good luck trying to find it | 00:06 |
| Vorian | nixternal: http://www.nabble.com/Build-problems-and-solutions-to12359280.html | 00:07 |
| stdin | Riddell: wasn't kdepim-kde4 released with 4.0.0 ? | 00:10 |
| nixternal | argh, when did apt-file stop working :( | 00:10 |
| Riddell | stdin: no, not ready | 00:10 |
| Riddell | stdin: also no quanta or kdevelop | 00:10 |
| stdin | ahh, then the meta-kde4 package should remove reference to kdepim-kde4 | 00:11 |
| Riddell | stdin: true true | 00:11 |
| stdin | Riddell: I'm working on -3 anyway, updating the versions required, I'll show it to you when I think it's done :) | 00:12 |
| Riddell | stdin: I may well be asleep in which case just upload to the ppa | 00:14 |
| stdin | Riddell: sure, but it should be done in a couple mins anyway | 00:14 |
| Vorian | Riddell: ktorrent is in pending status atm | 00:14 |
| danimo | re | 00:17 |
| xRaich[o]2x | hrmm installing kde-l10n-de makes kde4 act really weird | 00:17 |
| Riddell | danimo: can't sleep for the excitement either? | 00:17 |
| xRaich[o]2x | krunner does not start anymore | 00:17 |
| xRaich[o]2x | and kopete doesn't allow me to add ne accounts to my identity | 00:17 |
| danimo | Riddell: nah, rather trying to find very last showstoppers in the kubuntu packages | 00:18 |
| Tm_T | wooooooo | 00:19 |
| Tm_T | KDE 4.0.80 <3 | 00:19 |
| danimo | xRaich[o]2x: yeah, adding jabber accounts makes kopete crash :( | 00:19 |
| Tm_T | ? | 00:19 |
| Tm_T | murrrr | 00:19 |
| xRaich[o]2x | danimo: nope not when i'm using the english locals | 00:19 |
| xRaich[o]2x | works fine | 00:19 |
| xRaich[o]2x | but | 00:19 |
| Tm_T | forgot to try Kopete | 00:20 |
| stdin | Riddell: http://www.stdin.me.uk/meta-kde4/ | 00:20 |
| xRaich[o]2x | when i'm using the german locals and want to add new accounts there are none | 00:20 |
| xRaich[o]2x | no jabber, no icq, no what so ever | 00:20 |
| xRaich[o]2x | i hit add account and get an empty list where the protocols should show up | 00:21 |
| xRaich[o]2x | and pressing alt+f2 won't make the krunner widget appear | 00:21 |
| danimo | I just get a crash upon connect | 00:21 |
| xRaich[o]2x | works fine with english locals though | 00:21 |
| danimo | not here | 00:22 |
| xRaich[o]2x | weird | 00:22 |
| xRaich[o]2x | i did tried it for a number of times | 00:22 |
| xRaich[o]2x | try | 00:23 |
| xRaich[o]2x | without it worked fine with german locals it went bonkers | 00:23 |
| xRaich[o]2x | i even removed all .kde* files | 00:24 |
| Riddell | stdin: looks great, I'll upload to ubuntu and you can upload to the ppa | 00:25 |
| * nixternal kicks ligature | 00:25 | |
| stdin | ok, sounds like a plan :) | 00:26 |
| Riddell | Vorian: your ktorrent is a native packages, there's no .orig file | 00:26 |
| Riddell | Vorian: spose I can just make one | 00:29 |
| nixternal | Riddell: I am seeing a problem here...I will check ktown for an updated package, but the package we have for ligature isn't the same that is in KDE SVN | 00:31 |
| Riddell | nixternal: ask toma | 00:31 |
| yuriy | anybody working on amarok 2 packages? | 00:32 |
| Riddell | yuriy: I don't think they want us to, apachelogger will do it when appropriate I suspect | 00:32 |
| yuriy | oh ok | 00:32 |
| stdin | I doubt they want the same treatment as kde4 got with it's alpha/RC releases, they want people to see something mostly stable | 00:33 |
| Nightrose | yuriy: we will have a techpreview soonish | 00:34 |
| Nightrose | I think apachelogger will package that | 00:34 |
| Nightrose | stdin: true - but we need to get something out there and then we switch to qt 4.4 | 00:34 |
| xRaich[o]2x | Nightrose: good news :D | 00:35 |
| Nightrose | ;-) | 00:35 |
| xRaich[o]2x | told you i can't wait for the release ;) | 00:35 |
| Tm_T | release? | 00:35 |
| xRaich[o]2x | preview | 00:35 |
| xRaich[o]2x | whatever ^^ | 00:35 |
| Tm_T | is that equiv to svn commit? | 00:35 |
| xRaich[o]2x | Nightrose: any idea when this will happen? | 00:37 |
| Nightrose | yea but I am not sure if I am supposed to tell | 00:37 |
| Riddell | Vorian: ok, uploaded, many thanks | 00:37 |
| Vorian | no problem | 00:37 |
| Vorian | Riddell: sorry about the orig.tar.gz | 00:37 |
| Vorian | i don't know why it didn't upload | 00:38 |
| xRaich[o]2x | Nightrose: ah ok i don't want to ruin the surprise ^^ | 00:38 |
| Vorian | nixternal: I'll keep hammering away at kpov | 00:38 |
| Nightrose | xRaich[o]2x: hehe well - it really is apachelogger´s thing to do | 00:38 |
| Vorian | cd | 00:39 |
| Vorian | pfft | 00:39 |
| nixternal | Riddell: nah, my mistake on that....BlitzConfig.cmake is no longer in kdelibs, but ligature is looking for it...how do I get it to look for FindBlitz.cmake instead? | 00:39 |
| Riddell | nixternal: cmake is a mystery to me, try #kde4-devel | 00:39 |
| nixternal | k | 00:39 |
| Riddell | nixternal: or is it fixed in svn? | 00:40 |
| Tm_T | back to hacking life and kwin -> | 00:40 |
| xRaich[o]2x | Nightrose: ok then i'll try to be patient ^^ | 00:40 |
| nixternal | no it isn't in SVN | 00:40 |
| nixternal | what I have is the same | 00:40 |
| === uga is now known as uga|away | ||
| Vorian | oi | 00:53 |
| Vorian | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51515/ | 00:54 |
| Vorian | that's kpovmodeler | 00:54 |
| Riddell | Vorian: "error: freetype/config/ftheader.h: No such file or directory" | 00:55 |
| Riddell | looks like that file is missing | 00:55 |
| Vorian | yeah | 00:55 |
| Vorian | hmmm | 00:56 |
| Riddell | Vorian: packages.ubuntu.com may be able to find it | 00:56 |
| stdin | hmm kdesu in kde4 want's roots password :p oh well | 01:09 |
| Riddell | hmm, there's probably a compile option for that | 01:11 |
| Vorian | hmm | 01:13 |
| Vorian | i bet it's ftgl-dev | 01:13 |
| Riddell | Vorian: try libfreetype6-dev | 01:14 |
| Vorian | i already had that one | 01:14 |
| Riddell | it maybe needs a pointer to usr/include/freetype2/ somehow then | 01:14 |
| Vorian | hmmm | 01:15 |
| === gnomefre2k is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| * stdin wonders when gnomefreak will identify ;) | 01:21 | |
| gnomefreak | happy :) | 01:21 |
| gnomefreak | there much better | 01:22 |
| stdin | no you can kick people quicker and with more fury :D | 01:22 |
| * stdin gives Hobbsee a belated "Pong" | 01:30 | |
| Hobbsee | heya! | 01:30 |
| Riddell | well, I think we're ready for 4.0 | 01:38 |
| Riddell | time for some sleep before the announce | 01:38 |
| Vorian | :) | 01:39 |
| stdin | Riddell: I messed up the Depends line of kde4-devel a bit, here's the fix http://www.stdin.me.uk/diffs/meta-kde4_3.1.debdiff | 01:39 |
| Riddell | stdin: ok | 01:39 |
| stdin | in meta-kde that is | 01:39 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 01:40 |
| stdin | missing commas, I wish that lintain doesn't pick that up | 01:40 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: got your CD done? | 01:40 |
| stdin | s/doesn't/did/ | 01:40 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: testers welcome http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/gutsy/kde4/ | 01:40 |
| Hobbsee | woot :) | 01:40 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: how's the hardy packages? | 01:40 |
| stdin | I got 4.0.0 running here on hardy now, on display :1 :D | 01:41 |
| * Hobbsee wonders if you still have to mangle with kdm, etc | 01:41 | |
| stdin | I started it from kdm | 01:42 |
| stdin | just installed and switched user, then logged in | 01:42 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: I've not tried kdm and some of the app icons are broken but otherwise they work decently | 01:43 |
| * Hobbsee nods | 01:43 | |
| Hobbsee | stdin: ah right, so kdm (or gdm) picks that up now? neat. | 01:43 |
| stdin | yeah, the package installs the /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop file | 01:43 |
| Hobbsee | woot :) | 01:44 |
| stdin | has done since RC2 :) | 01:44 |
| Hobbsee | Binary: kde-devel, kde, kde-amusements, kde-core | 01:46 |
| Hobbsee | i want ammusements and core, i take it? | 01:46 |
| Riddell | that's kde 3 | 01:47 |
| Riddell | kde4-core | 01:47 |
| * Riddell snoozes | 01:48 | |
| stdin | oh diggidy dang, guess what kde4-* depends on: kde-core | 01:48 |
| * Riddell unsnoozes | 01:48 | |
| stdin | how come no one (including me) spotted that? :p | 01:48 |
| stdin | ok, it was just kde4-amusements, not so bad then | 01:49 |
| Riddell | test before upload? bah humbug | 01:49 |
| * Riddell uploads fix && snoozes | 01:50 | |
| nixternal | ooh, Vorian found a bug in libfreetype | 01:51 |
| stdin | Hobbsee: if you don't want kde-core installed, you can grab kde4-core kdeedu-kde4 kdegames-kde4 and kdetoys-kde4 (that's what kde4-amusements will get) | 01:51 |
| nixternal | /usr/include/ft2build.h has #include <freetype/config/ftheaer.h> when it should be #include <freetype2/freetype/config/ftheader.h> | 01:52 |
| Hobbsee | stdin: right | 01:52 |
| Hobbsee | stdin: so i can basically pick my metapackages like kde3, and get a full system? | 01:53 |
| nixternal | holy smokes, I can do a full update and nothing wants to uninstall today...now that is love! | 01:53 |
| stdin | Hobbsee: that's the plan yeah, if you wanted all of it you could do "sudo apt-get install kde4" :) | 01:54 |
| Tm_T | mooh | 02:02 |
| Tm_T | stdin: I just do "cmakekdeall" :( | 02:02 |
| stdin | you don't have to compile with apt :) | 02:02 |
| Tm_T | stdin: but then it's not current trunk | 02:03 |
| stdin | current trunk is 4.1 isn't it? | 02:03 |
| Tm_T | well 4.0.80 atm | 02:04 |
| Tm_T | more or less | 02:04 |
| Tm_T | stdin: logout dialog is <3 | 02:04 |
| stdin | is it different from 4.0.0? | 02:04 |
| Tm_T | IIRC yes | 02:04 |
| Tm_T | well atleast it's different from week or two back | 02:05 |
| === rdieter is now known as rdieter_afk | ||
| jjesse | evening | 03:47 |
| stdin | morning :) | 03:47 |
| Jucato | noon | 03:47 |
| jjesse | hello stdin | 03:47 |
| jjesse | hello Jucato | 03:50 |
| stdin | I think we finally got #kubuntu under control now :) | 03:51 |
| Jucato | hah stick around for the official release... you're gonna be swamped :P | 03:51 |
| * Jucato won't be here | 03:51 | |
| Jucato | enjoy :D | 03:52 |
| stdin | I may have another 11hour nap by then :p | 03:52 |
| jjesse | official release is at what time utc? | 03:53 |
| stdin | no one knows, or at least I haven't seen a time mentioned | 03:54 |
| Jucato | lunch... | 03:54 |
| Jucato | jjesse: I heard the release will be between 00:00 and 23:59 on Jan 11, 2007 | 03:54 |
| jjesse | nice :) | 03:55 |
| Jucato | no timezone indicated :) | 03:55 |
| stdin | no, between 00:00:00.00 and 23:59:59.99 | 03:55 |
| Jucato | aaah sorry | 03:55 |
| Jucato | my sources were lacking | 03:55 |
| jjesse | smart a$$ | 03:55 |
| stdin | gotta keep you ear to the ground, finger on the pulse and eat off the grape vine :) | 03:56 |
| jjesse | :) | 03:56 |
| jjesse | heading to bed i'm tired | 03:56 |
| Jucato | whose pulse? | 03:56 |
| jjesse | while i dowwnload the updates | 03:56 |
| Jucato | :P | 03:56 |
| Jucato | later | 03:56 |
| jjesse | night | 03:56 |
| stdin | the pulse of the kde devs, don't want them to die on us :p | 03:57 |
| stdin | night jjesse | 03:57 |
| * genii sips a coffee | 04:26 | |
| genii | I can't say I'm crazy about this vista-like kmenu navigation | 04:26 |
| stdin | there is another menu available, like the old one | 04:27 |
| genii | stdin: Find it in themes or so? | 04:27 |
| stdin | it's a applet, so just add it to the panel and remove the old one | 04:27 |
| genii | stdin: OK, thanks | 04:29 |
| genii | stdin: Crap. How to dock it? | 04:33 |
| stdin | remove it from the desktop, then just drag it from the widget chooser to the panel | 04:34 |
| stdin | should popup by the other menu | 04:34 |
| genii | stdin: Heh. Thanks. | 04:35 |
| stdin | I don't like the new menu much either, so that's one of the 1st things I did :) | 04:35 |
| genii | Otherwise the standard theme/layout is nice | 04:36 |
| nixternal | BOOYAH@!#)@*)*#@)!)* | 04:39 |
| nixternal | Vorian: fixed ligature! | 04:39 |
| Vorian | ^5 nixternal | 04:39 |
| Vorian | what was it? | 04:39 |
| genii | Bah. The context overlay thing doesn't move with the icon it's originally attached to when you align vertical or horizontal | 04:39 |
| nixternal | their CMakeList.txt file was missing KDE4 REQUIRED | 04:39 |
| * nixternal fixes and uploads to KDE svn | 04:40 | |
| Vorian | that's it? | 04:40 |
| nixternal | yup | 04:40 |
| Vorian | you are awesome | 04:40 |
| nixternal | I can't believe I didn't catch that | 04:40 |
| stdin | wow, kde 4.0.0 only took 107 uploads and 31 FTBFS :) not bad | 04:41 |
| Vorian | nice | 04:41 |
| Vorian | :) | 04:41 |
| nixternal | gotta make sure we don't have any svn freezes going on | 04:42 |
| Vorian | so nixternal, it would be: find_package(KDE4 REQUIRED) before blitz required? | 04:43 |
| nixternal | yes | 04:43 |
| nixternal | it is missing other things as well which I am fixing in svn | 04:44 |
| Vorian | nice find :) | 04:44 |
| Vorian | the only file in the source directory, who would have thought? :) | 04:44 |
| nixternal | my god, how big is freakin' keg | 04:45 |
| nixternal | I feel like I am checking out kdebase | 04:45 |
| Vorian | a full size one? | 04:45 |
| nixternal | ya | 04:45 |
| Vorian | like 50 gal | 04:45 |
| nixternal | I thought I already had it, guess I didn't | 04:45 |
| nixternal | hahaha | 04:45 |
| Vorian | or something close to it | 04:45 |
| nixternal | you ass | 04:45 |
| Vorian | :) | 04:45 |
| nixternal | not that keg | 04:45 |
| nixternal | KDE Extrage Gear == keg | 04:45 |
| Vorian | ROFL!!!! | 04:46 |
| nixternal | hahaha | 04:46 |
| nixternal | you had me for a second | 04:46 |
| Vorian | :) | 04:46 |
| Vorian | how many extragear packages are left? | 04:46 |
| nixternal | are you done with yours? | 04:46 |
| nixternal | just kpov and lig | 04:47 |
| Vorian | freetype bug | 04:47 |
| Vorian | ah, too bad | 04:47 |
| nixternal | ahhh, damn I think I just ran into that as a matter of fact with ligature | 04:47 |
| Vorian | uh oh | 04:47 |
| nixternal | OK, ligature is fixed in KDE SVN now | 04:49 |
| * Vorian sleeps | 04:50 | |
| Vorian | night :) | 04:50 |
| * genii considers asking a support question of stdin | 04:55 | |
| stdin | fine, but ask nixternal if it's about vista :p | 04:56 |
| genii | heh, deal | 04:56 |
| genii | I'll need a bulletproof vest first though <laughing> | 04:56 |
| * nixternal breaks out the canon | 05:04 | |
| genii | I guess I won't ask that burning question of how do you make ubuntu load from vista's bootloader instead of vice-a-versa then .... | 05:05 |
| nixternal | ahh, there is actually a howto on the wiki :) | 05:08 |
| genii | Bah. Did compiz --replace and had to go to terminal to kill it enough to be able to logout | 05:18 |
| genii | Must not take my ccsm settings from 3.5.8 | 05:19 |
| genii | nixternal: Found that wiki page btw, thanks | 05:24 |
| genii | Heh some guy in #ubuntu dissing kde4 | 05:42 |
| genii | oops #ubuntu-offtopic | 05:42 |
| Jucato | let him. he'll find sympathizers there... | 05:44 |
| Jucato | or maybe angry ops. | 05:44 |
| Jucato | either way, if he ever comes our way.... WHAM! | 05:44 |
| * genii hides the baseball bat | 05:44 | |
| Jucato | I have other blunt objects :) | 05:45 |
| genii | :) | 05:45 |
| * ScottK isn't particularly excited about KDE4. It doesn't include the one KDE app that is most important to me for my use. | 05:46 | |
| Jucato | which is? | 05:46 |
| Jucato | s/KDE4/KDE 4.0/ | 05:47 |
| Jucato | :D | 05:47 |
| ScottK | Jucato: Kontact (kdepim) | 05:47 |
| ScottK | Also, since I use my Kubuntu boxes for $WORK, stability is more important than the latest kewl features. | 05:48 |
| ScottK | But I'm also old and grumpy, so what do I know. | 05:48 |
| Jucato | ah yes... definitely not for KDE 4.0.. maybe not even 4.1 | 05:48 |
| ScottK | So I'll just keep on with KDE 3.5 for a while and eventually will make the switch. | 05:50 |
| ScottK | In the meantime, I hope it gets a reasonable level of bug fixing. | 05:50 |
| * Jucato nods | 05:51 | |
| Jucato | you're not being old and grumpy. just being sensible and stable :) | 05:51 |
| ScottK | Good night all. | 05:52 |
| Jucato | 'night! :) | 05:52 |
| nixternal | no, ScottK is being old and grumpy ;p | 05:55 |
| nixternal | just like ligature is right now | 05:55 |
| Jucato | ligature is just plain being a PITA :) | 06:00 |
| apachelogger_ | Riddell: can you please nuke the older dragonplayer? https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=dragonplayer | 06:01 |
| * apachelogger_ is on his way to school | 06:01 | |
| nixternal | ligature I don't think should have ever been tagged, unless of course I am missing the obvious | 06:04 |
| nixternal | when someone can tell me why HAS_WCHAR, HAS_GNUG_PRAGMAS is an issue, then maybe I can do something | 06:05 |
| Jucato | um... I thought extragear wasn't included in the scope of the regular release schedules? | 06:05 |
| Jucato | (I mean that's why they're in extragear, right?) | 06:05 |
| nixternal | "NEED_GNUG_PRAGMAS | 06:06 |
| nixternal | wth is that | 06:06 |
| nixternal | not everything in extragear was tagged though | 06:06 |
| Jucato | I didn't know anything in extragear was tagged (maybe plasma only?) | 06:07 |
| nixternal | I wish I knew where NEED_GNUG_PRAGMAS was defined | 06:08 |
| genii | libdjvu | 06:09 |
| nixternal | you would think so, but it isn't | 06:10 |
| nixternal | hrmm | 06:11 |
| nixternal | actually ligature has djvu in the damn plugins already | 06:11 |
| genii | Weird. are you getting something like <clipped full path>/djvu/libdjvu/Arrays.cpp:58:21: error: config.h: No such file or directory | 06:11 |
| nixternal | nope | 06:13 |
| genii | hmm | 06:13 |
| nixternal | In file included from /tmp/buildd/ligature-kde4-4.0.0/plugins/djvu/libdjvu/Arrays.cpp:64: | 06:13 |
| nixternal | /tmp/buildd/ligature-kde4-4.0.0/plugins/djvu/libdjvu/Arrays.h:62:5: warning: "NEED_GNUG_PRAGMAS" is not defined | 06:13 |
| nixternal | a bunch of those | 06:13 |
| nixternal | once again, I think you can chalk this up to bogus ass CMakeList.txt files | 06:14 |
| nixternal | wtf, instead of building ligature against libdjvulibre-dev, he includes it in the damn package | 06:15 |
| Jucato | hm.. quite amusing, our only new feature for alpha 3 is kde4 :) | 06:16 |
| Jucato | oh nixternal, did you write about Tonio's new kio-apt features already? | 06:17 |
| * nixternal #'s out djvu from CMakeLists.txt and tries again | 06:17 | |
| nixternal | I didn't write any of the release notes this go round | 06:18 |
| nixternal | I think yuriy did | 06:18 |
| Jucato | ah :) | 06:18 |
| Jucato | I'll poke him instead then | 06:18 |
| Jucato | good for you. you needed a break :) | 06:18 |
| nixternal | ya, first one in 2 years :) | 06:18 |
| nixternal | woohoo! | 06:18 |
| * genii thinks about the mushroom principle | 06:21 | |
| genii | eg: lock programmers in dark room, feed them manure and hope something fruitful comes | 06:22 |
| nixternal | w00t, just comment out that crappy djvu garbage from CMakeList.txt and it builds past that plugin garbage | 06:23 |
| nixternal | now I need to fix up fax with some tweaked out cmake includes and on to the next breakage | 06:23 |
| * genii puts a pot of coffee on for nixternal | 06:33 | |
| nixternal | thanks! gonna need it | 06:35 |
| genii | Anytime | 06:35 |
| * genii sneaks a peek at http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/extragear/graphics/ligature/CMakeLists.txt | 06:41 | |
| === _czessi is now known as Czessi | ||
| buz | i'm seeing a really annoying issue: at times, konqueror-kde4 simply wont load sites while firefox does so without any issues? | 07:07 |
| nixternal | buz: running v4.0.0 or older? | 07:12 |
| Jucato | stdin: btw, did you see my comment about kpackage-kde4 requiring smartpm-core? | 07:13 |
| stdin | Jucato: nope | 07:13 |
| nixternal | genii: error: config.h: No such file or directory <-- what is the fix for that? I cannot remember how I did it before for the life of me | 07:13 |
| Jucato | stdin: ok now I'm telling you :) | 07:13 |
| genii | nixternal: [01:15:35] <nixternal> wtf, instead of building ligature against libdjvulibre-dev, he includes it in the damn package | 07:14 |
| stdin | Jucato: can you file a bug report, pretty please :) | 07:14 |
| buz | nixternal: 4.0.0 | 07:14 |
| buz | mhh that just was the first composite crash | 07:15 |
| stdin | Jucato: just so I don't forget to tell Riddell and it is a packaging issue so reporting a bug is fine in that case | 07:15 |
| genii | nixternal: Maybe theres a reason that .krazy contains: SKIP /plugins/ps/\|/plugins/dvi/\|/plugins/djvu/ | 07:16 |
| nixternal | hrmm | 07:16 |
| nixternal | forgot about that damn .krazy | 07:16 |
| nixternal | stupid hidden files :p | 07:16 |
| Jucato | stdin: wokei | 07:17 |
| apach|mobile | yuriy: Nightrose: I'm not yet sure whether we should package amarok2 tp 1 | 07:39 |
| buz | can someone check if web shortcuts work for them in kde4? i always end up searching google, no matter what shortcut i try | 07:54 |
| stdin | Jucato: made a bug report on kpackage-kde4 yet? | 08:13 |
| Jucato | bug 181950 | 08:16 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 181950 in kdeadmin-kde4 "KPackage4 requires smartpm-core in order to run" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181950 | 08:16 |
| nixternal | Riddell: ligature is a mess...if you want to take a look at it feel free...I have uploaded to svn the CMakeList.txt fixes | 08:18 |
| nixternal | I am going to crash, see you all on the otherside of KDE 4 :) | 08:18 |
| Jucato | nixternal: I see what you mean about some extragear being tagged. given your problems, I'm also surprised ligature made it... :/ | 08:19 |
| Jucato | g'night nixternal | 08:19 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: things are going okay so far :) | 08:33 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: did the Kde4 team run out of ideas for icons? In games nearly all of them seem to have pictures of cards. ie arcade/board games/games for kids etc | 08:36 |
| davmor2 | Why does clicking on restart bring up a dialogue saying shutdown/restart etc? | 08:46 |
| davmor2 | couldn't find service khelpcenter was an error I received trying to access the manual for KspaceDuel Kde 4 | 08:52 |
| stdin | is khelpcenter-kde4 installed? | 08:53 |
| davmor2 | I'll check in a sec | 08:54 |
| stdin | I think it's a recommend of something, but not a dep | 08:54 |
| davmor2 | stdin: I would check via the package manager but it says "Kpackage requires the SMART Package Manager to be installed in order to function" | 08:57 |
| stdin | bug 18195 | 08:58 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 18195 in netcfg "dhcp search can't be avoided during installation" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18195 | 08:58 |
| stdin | erm, bug 181950 | 08:58 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 181950 in kdeadmin-kde4 "KPackage4 requires smartpm-core in order to run" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181950 | 08:58 |
| Jucato | thankies | 08:59 |
| davmor2 | stdin: Not a kde user just a tester. It helps sometime to not know what your doing in order to find bugs :) | 08:59 |
| stdin | davmor2: the bug topic includes the fix though "KPackage4 requires smartpm-core in order to run", so just install smartpm-core via apt-get | 09:00 |
| davmor2 | should the install icon still be available on an installed system? | 09:03 |
| Jucato | install icon on the desktop? no | 09:03 |
| stdin | probably not, no | 09:03 |
| davmor2 | Jucato: stdin: No this is in the menu above package manager | 09:05 |
| Jucato | hm? | 09:05 |
| stdin | afaik, the installer shouldn't be installed | 09:05 |
| davmor2 | I've install smartpm-core. I'v started package manager, I've typed in the password and the window for my password pops back up | 09:07 |
| stdin | it asks for the root pass I think, try using "kdesudo kpackage" from krunner | 09:08 |
| Jucato | it worked for me last night, so I'm sure only smartpm-core was needed :/ | 09:09 |
| === \sh_away is now known as \sh | ||
| davmor2 | kdesudo command not found I think I've located the error :) | 09:11 |
| stdin | kdesudo is from kde3, doh! | 09:12 |
| stdin | erm, set a root password? | 09:12 |
| * stdin cringes | 09:12 | |
| stdin | or just install the kdesudo package | 09:13 |
| stdin | that's probably better right now | 09:13 |
| davmor2 | Jucato: do you have a root password? Or did you type in your user pass | 09:13 |
| Jucato | I actually launched it from a KDE 3 session :) | 09:13 |
| Jucato | so it used kdesu | 09:13 |
| stdin | kdesu = kdesudo | 09:14 |
| Jucato | oh wait... | 09:14 |
| Jucato | I can't recall if it asked me the password or if I ran it in read only mode (Kpackage's default if you just run it) | 09:14 |
| Jucato | stdin: only if kdesudo is installed. otherwise it reverts to plain kdesu :) | 09:15 |
| stdin | yeah, but kdesudo is installed by default in our kde3 | 09:16 |
| Jucato | so can he run kdesudo from a KDE 4 session? | 09:16 |
| \sh | moins | 09:17 |
| stdin | yeah, kdesudo only exists in one place in the $PATH, so it'll run the kde3 version | 09:17 |
| Jucato | what's the problem with kde4's kdesu then? | 09:18 |
| davmor2 | I think I may of found the issue I just tried to access users in order to make sure I was set up as admin. It would accept my password and that was kdesu at work. I've just rebooted and am going to check again | 09:19 |
| davmor2 | s/would/wouldn't | 09:19 |
| stdin | Jucato: asks for root pass | 09:21 |
| davmor2 | yes definite problem. I just tried User Manager again and kdesu is saying that my password is wrong but I just logged in with it :) | 09:21 |
| stdin | if you look it asks for "root" password, so there's the problem :p | 09:22 |
| === hunger_t_ is now known as hunger | ||
| davmor2 | how can I check via command line as to what groups I'm in | 09:22 |
| Jucato | stdin: then using kdesudo will work around that right? maybe we can symlink kdesudo to kde4's kdesu like we do in kde3's kdesu | 09:22 |
| Jucato | davmor2: "id" | 09:22 |
| stdin | davmor2: "groups" | 09:23 |
| Jucato | both :) | 09:23 |
| Jucato | id shows groupid too though... :( | 09:23 |
| Jucato | stdin: so the bug is kdesu4 doesn't/can't use sudo and only su? | 09:23 |
| stdin | it's not configured to do so, it's probably come cmake option | 09:24 |
| stdin | not 100% sure if we'll need to patch the code or just reconfigure it | 09:24 |
| Jucato | I see...but in any case, wouldn't it still be advisable to use kdesudo as well? unless kdesu4 works more properly than kdesu (3) | 09:25 |
| davmor2 | hey guys if you go to User Manager it is kdesu asking for password and it is saying that I got it wrong | 09:25 |
| mak3_ | hi all | 09:25 |
| === mak3_ is now known as mak3 | ||
| stdin | Jucato: probably yes, we need a kde4 port really | 09:26 |
| davmor2 | should the id number make any difference as long ass the admin group is listed? | 09:26 |
| Jucato | davmor2: yeah, because it's actually looking for the root's password.. which doesn't exist | 09:26 |
| mikkael | i use kdesudo for the kde4 password problem | 09:26 |
| hunger | Is kdevelop already available for kde4? | 09:26 |
| davmor2 | Jucato: Kdesu is | 09:26 |
| stdin | hunger: no, not yet | 09:27 |
| davmor2 | yes your right it does ask for roots password :) | 09:27 |
| Jucato | hunger: I thought kdev has a different release cycle? | 09:27 |
| hunger | Jucato: Dunno. That is why I am asking. | 09:27 |
| Jucato | oh ok.. then most probably no | 09:28 |
| hunger | I have a build of kdevelop from kde/trunk and that is mostly unuseable. I just wanted to make sure that I did not break something locally;-) | 09:28 |
| Jucato | ah don't worry then :) | 09:29 |
| davmor2 | stdin: Jucato: Right back to the original issue before I found the other. There is no khelpcenter-kde4 listed in the repo's using apt-cache search. I changedd the search field to khelpcenter and that's listed. Would that be the right one? | 09:34 |
| stdin | khelpcenter-kde4 is the package, and it does exist | 09:35 |
| davmor2 | that'll be why it isn't installed then :) | 09:36 |
| milian | regarding: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0-2.php | 09:36 |
| milian | I still have to start kde manually when using KDE 4 from my login manager | 09:36 |
| milian | an xterm was started and I had to use the old commands | 09:36 |
| milian | i.e. exporting some envs and running startkde afterwards | 09:37 |
| Jucato | hm.. that's kinda wrong | 09:37 |
| stdin | you just choose "KDE 4" from the login manager, ie: kdm or gdm | 09:38 |
| milian | I did just that | 09:38 |
| milian | xterm was presented and nothing else | 09:38 |
| davmor2 | or a spare disk with the kde4 install on and start it a run time :) | 09:38 |
| stdin | post /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop to pastebin then | 09:38 |
| milian | so I did what I described above | 09:38 |
| buz | hm lol | 09:38 |
| milian | the next time I run kde4 it worked though | 09:38 |
| buz | i managed to remove the taskbar and now it wont come back :P | 09:39 |
| stdin | buz: I think that happens when you don't have a clean ~/.kde4 it happened to me too | 09:39 |
| buz | so its not a good idea to copy over kde3 ? | 09:39 |
| buz | how else am i gonna get my settings | 09:40 |
| Jucato | buz: when you run your kde3 apps in a kde4 session it will use ~/.kde | 09:40 |
| buz | yeah but for example i want kwallet data in konqui4 | 09:40 |
| buz | and kopete data in kopete | 09:41 |
| Jucato | hm... they may or may not be compatible with the old, but you could try | 09:41 |
| Jucato | carefully :) | 09:41 |
| buz | well they are | 09:41 |
| buz | but somehow, this plasma business is beyond me :P | 09:41 |
| buz | ah well lets nuke .kde4 and try again :P | 09:42 |
| buz | i have feeling i will do that numerous times :P | 09:42 |
| davmor2 | afk I'll break it some more when I come back :P | 09:42 |
| milian | darn, those kde4 programs made themselves highes-priority defaults for many filetypes... | 09:47 |
| hunger | kde4-devel is not installable here. | 09:47 |
| milian | kwrite kde4, konqueror kde4 etc. now start in my kde3 environment | 09:47 |
| hunger | kde4-devel depends on kde4-core >= 5:47. | 09:47 |
| Riddell | tsk, poke stdin ^^ | 09:48 |
| * stdin wonders why that is | 09:49 | |
| hunger | kde4 is not installable either: depends on kdeartwork-kde4 > 4:4.0.0 while available is 4:3.98.x | 09:49 |
| stdin | just installed it fine on my gutsy install | 09:50 |
| hunger | stdin: I'm on hardy. | 09:50 |
| stdin | well that's because kdeartwork-kde4 hasn't built yet :) | 09:51 |
| hunger | stdin: Ah, that explains it:-) I'll just wait it out. | 09:51 |
| Riddell | hmm, it failed to build | 09:52 |
| Riddell | xscreensaver foo | 09:52 |
| stdin | built in gutsy PPA | 09:52 |
| Riddell | yeah, it has magic xscreensaver detection so if xscreensaver changes kdeartwork needs to as well | 09:53 |
| buz | stdin: even with a virgin .kde4, removing the pager and readding it doesnt seem to put back in the bottom bar | 09:57 |
| buz | it just floats on the desktop | 09:57 |
| stdin | probably a bug then | 09:58 |
| buz | sounds like it | 09:58 |
| buz | not the first one i'd file today :P | 09:58 |
| stdin | Riddell: http://www.stdin.me.uk/diffs/post-rel/meta-kde4_3.3.debdiff see also bug 181950 | 10:02 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 181950 in kdeadmin-kde4 "KPackage4 requires smartpm-core in order to run" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181950 | 10:02 |
| Riddell | stdin: does kpackage only use smart now? | 10:02 |
| Jucato | yep | 10:02 |
| Jucato | it won't start without smart... | 10:03 |
| stdin | it pops up saying it can't find "SMART" so I guess so | 10:03 |
| \sh | Riddell: I guess it's because smart can handle all types of repositories..rpm-md, deb, yum etc. | 10:06 |
| Riddell | makes sense | 10:06 |
| \sh | but it can be dangerous, too | 10:06 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: On a plus side the install itself was absolutely flawless. | 10:42 |
| Riddell | davmor2: overall I'm happy it works at all :) | 10:42 |
| davmor2 | Like I say there are some niggles but that I'm sure is to be expected. All my hardware was detected. I installed on my second drive and updated grub on the 1st. Everything seems to be okay. | 10:45 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: the other main niggle I have is why does it pop up a window with end session when from the menu you selected restart | 10:51 |
| Riddell | Bug in KDE 4.0 shocker! | 10:52 |
| Riddell | quick stop the release! | 10:52 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: No I wondered more if it was deliberate :P | 10:52 |
| Riddell | I doubt it, probably just a last minute change to something that clashed with something else | 10:53 |
| mhb | hi folks | 10:53 |
| Riddell | same thing happened with desktop wallpaper, the formats changed and it broke kdm | 10:53 |
| mhb | everyone in a jolly mood, I see | 10:53 |
| davmor2 | right okay | 10:54 |
| * Riddell fluffles mhb | 10:55 | |
| * apache|mobile__ schedules work on kdm-kde4 for tonight | 10:55 | |
| stdin | when oh when will kde.org announce... :p | 10:56 |
| apache|mobile__ | Riddell: btw, do you think it makes sense to create some patches from the 4.0 branch... e.g. plasma is crashing like a crazy horse for me | 10:56 |
| apache|mobile__ | stdin: when the beer is here! | 10:56 |
| stdin | damn those beer delivery guys, always late | 10:57 |
| Riddell | stdin: soon soon! | 10:57 |
| stdin | I just want to stop saying "when kde.org announces it" every few mins :p | 10:58 |
| mhb | ya, time based releases rock | 10:58 |
| Riddell | even gnome doesn't release to the minute | 10:59 |
| mhb | KDE should go back to its punktlich German roots | 10:59 |
| Nightrose | haha | 10:59 |
| apache|mobile__ | pünktlichkeit ftw! | 10:59 |
| Nightrose | indeed | 10:59 |
| Riddell | now there's a good word | 10:59 |
| apache|mobile__ | we should import aseigo, so he gets to learn that ;-) | 10:59 |
| stdin | a general time would be nice, like "somewhere around lunchtime UTC" | 10:59 |
| Riddell | not as good as entwickler, but still sounds fun | 10:59 |
| Riddell | stdin: minutes! | 10:59 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: I just dropped in my usb pen drive and it's not been mounted at all | 10:59 |
| apache|mobile__ | naaah | 11:00 |
| apache|mobile__ | IMHO | 11:00 |
| Riddell | davmor2: stop testing, you'll only find bugs! | 11:00 |
| apache|mobile__ | the time should be in a 3 day time frame | 11:00 |
| stdin | so I was right then, depending on when you have lunch :p | 11:00 |
| apache|mobile__ | that creates a lot of buzz | 11:00 |
| davmor2 | I thought that was the point :P | 11:00 |
| Riddell | davmor2: oh aye :) | 11:00 |
| apache|mobile__ | just imagine, 3 days without sleep and total excitement | 11:00 |
| davmor2 | Manually mounting the device works and dolphin can access and read it np's. However the computer icon by the time still doesn't register it :( | 11:05 |
| * apache|mobile__ runs through the class room and shouts "ooohhhh KDE4, oohhhhhh, can't wait any longer" | 11:06 | |
| mhb | Riddell: hope your "within minutes" does not mean "within hours" | 11:08 |
| Riddell | hold your breath! | 11:08 |
| * apache|mobile__ stops breathing | 11:09 | |
| davmor2 | apache|mobile__: don't be blagged you'll die ;) | 11:10 |
| apache|mobile__ | omg, ohnoes | 11:11 |
| apache|mobile__ | can't die I have to be here when the announce gets out | 11:11 |
| Riddell | keep holding! | 11:12 |
| === apache|mobile__ is now known as apache|mobile | ||
| davmor2 | Once again Riddell On the whole it workish looks nice and feels a whole lot more sprightly. Good job all round. I hope the niggles are ironed out soon :) | 11:13 |
| mhb | woo hoo! | 11:14 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: stop trying to kill him :P | 11:14 |
| * stdin woots at www.kde.org ! | 11:14 | |
| Nightrose | \o/ \o/ \o/ yaaaaaaaay! | 11:15 |
| stdin | apache|mobile: you can breath now :) | 11:15 |
| apache|mobile | KAY DE EE | 11:15 |
| apache|mobile | KAY DE EE | 11:15 |
| apache|mobile | KAY DE EE | 11:15 |
| apache|mobile | FOUR | 11:15 |
| * apache|mobile hands out more and more beer | 11:15 | |
| apache|mobile | free beer for everyone | 11:16 |
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | Next meeting: 12th January 11:00 | KDE 4.0! http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php | ||
| stdin | ooh Riddell, shouldn't "run startkde in the Xerphyr xterm" be "run /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde in the Xerphyr xterm" ? | 11:28 |
| Riddell | mm, yes | 11:29 |
| stdin | you know, we should have done a startkde-kde4, but it's not exactly a big deal | 11:30 |
| mhb | so, get ready for all the negative reviews :o) | 11:30 |
| stdin | HOBBSEE!!! hi :) | 11:33 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: you just missed the big release! | 11:34 |
| Riddell | the fireworks were amazing | 11:34 |
| mhb | ryanakca: ping | 11:34 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: awwww | 11:35 |
| \sh | wooosa | 11:37 |
| \sh | THIS DAY IS INCREDIBLE...KDE4 released...rejoined motu...birthday....and klinsmann is new coach of Bayern München...what a great day...I love it | 11:38 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 11:38 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: so were there lots of shiny colours? | 11:38 |
| stdin | all the colours of plasma :p | 11:38 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 11:39 |
| davmor2 | mhb: It ain't that bad I can only find niggles | 11:39 |
| Hobbsee | right, so how do i install it on hardy? | 11:39 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: a large amount of black | 11:40 |
| Hobbsee | just kde4-core seems listed in teh announcement | 11:40 |
| Riddell | \sh: it's your special day! | 11:40 |
| stdin | "sudo apt-get install kde4-core" should work fine | 11:40 |
| \sh | Riddell: looks like :) | 11:40 |
| mhb | davmor2: reviewers tend to pay attention to details, and KDE4 is not a release of Windows Vista, which is both good and bad | 11:42 |
| * Hobbsee installs | 11:42 | |
| Hobbsee | ...blink | 11:42 |
| * Hobbsee just saw how fast the archives are serving data | 11:42 | |
| stdin | prepare for the involuntary "ooh"s and "ahh"s you'll expel | 11:42 |
| Vorian | lol | 11:43 |
| davmor2 | mhb: But I'm a tester I'm looking for faults I'm actually hunting them down :) | 11:43 |
| Hobbsee | Fetched 108MB in 2min8s (840kB/s) | 11:44 |
| stdin | not bad, I bet the PPA is a tad slower than that by now ;) | 11:45 |
| Hobbsee | my connection *never* goes that fast on a non-au site. | 11:45 |
| Hobbsee | rarely that good, consistently, on an au site | 11:45 |
| === neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde | ||
| === \sh is now known as \sh_away | ||
| Hobbsee | Riddell: why does this hate me? | 11:52 |
| Hobbsee | i don't seem to get a terminal after running Xephyr :1 | 11:52 |
| Riddell | do you get xephyr? | 11:52 |
| stdin | did you do "Xephyr :1 & export DISPLAY=:1 ; xterm" ? | 11:52 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: as in, the screen? yes | 11:53 |
| stdin | I think Xephyr is starting too slowly for xterm | 11:54 |
| Riddell | yeah, they probably need to be separate commands | 11:54 |
| Riddell | export DISPLAY=:1 ; xterm | 11:54 |
| Hobbsee | AUDIT: Fri Jan 11 22:54:27 2008: 11334 Xephyr: client 1 rejected from local host (uid 1000) | 11:54 |
| Hobbsee | No protocol specified | 11:54 |
| Hobbsee | xterm Xt error: Can't open display: :1 | 11:54 |
| Riddell | hrm | 11:55 |
| stdin | yep, Xephyr is too slow for xterm | 11:55 |
| Hobbsee | so, um, what can i do? | 11:56 |
| Tm_T | mmmh | 11:56 |
| * Tm_T uses full KDE4 session | 11:56 | |
| stdin | Hobbsee: did you wait a sec before starting xterm? | 11:57 |
| Hobbsee | stdin: i didn't start xterm, i just pasted what you had in quotes | 11:58 |
| stdin | you mean "Xephyr :1 & export DISPLAY=:1 ; xterm" ? | 11:58 |
| Hobbsee | yes | 11:58 |
| stdin | try "export DISPLAY=:0" to reset the display then "Xephyr :1 &" then wait and do "export DISPLAY=:1 ; xterm" see if that works at all | 11:58 |
| Hobbsee | sarah@LongPointyStick:~% export DISPLAY=:1 ; xterm 10:58PM | 11:59 |
| Hobbsee | AUDIT: Fri Jan 11 22:59:07 2008: 11409 Xephyr: client 1 rejected from local host (uid 1000) | 11:59 |
| Hobbsee | No protocol specified | 11:59 |
| Hobbsee | xterm Xt error: Can't open display: :1 | 11:59 |
| Hobbsee | same thing | 11:59 |
| stdin | does "xhost" display anything other than: access control enabled, only authorized clients can connect | 12:00 |
| Tm_T | hmmm | 12:00 |
| Tm_T | what will we do WHEN #kubuntu becomes full of kde4 questions? | 12:00 |
| Hobbsee | stdin: | 12:01 |
| Hobbsee | AUDIT: Fri Jan 11 23:00:56 2008: 11409 Xephyr: client 1 rejected from local host (uid 1000) | 12:01 |
| Hobbsee | No protocol specified | 12:01 |
| Hobbsee | xhost: unable to open display ":1" | 12:01 |
| * Hobbsee restarts X, and hopes to get in via GDM | 12:01 | |
| Jucato | Tm_T: we'll do what we've always done... try to cope with it :) | 12:08 |
| Jucato | or direct them somewhere else >:) | 12:08 |
| Tm_T | Jucato: that's what I do expect | 12:08 |
| Tm_T | Jucato: glad we have #kde too ;) | 12:09 |
| Jucato | actually a few days ago we were also wondering where to put kde4 questions in #kde :D | 12:09 |
| stdin | I hope #kde doesn't just send them back our way | 12:09 |
| Jucato | well that depends... | 12:09 |
| Jucato | we'll see :) | 12:10 |
| Tm_T | Jucato: I won't, dunno for others | 12:10 |
| stdin | heh, I think I got #ubuntu-offtopic in a KDE4 buzz :D | 12:10 |
| Tm_T | distro specific is different | 12:10 |
| Jucato | we could always ask "What version of KDE are you using? 3.5? 4.0? or Kubuntu?" | 12:10 |
| Jucato | >:) | 12:10 |
| Tm_T | haha | 12:10 |
| Hobbsee | wow, nice! | 12:12 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: isn't it just | 12:12 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: 4.0? | 12:12 |
| Hobbsee | yup | 12:13 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: 0.0 or 0.80? | 12:13 |
| Hobbsee | 0.0 | 12:13 |
| stdin | had any involuntary "ooh"s and "ahh"s yet? | 12:13 |
| davmor2 | What's the name of the rss reader for the desktop rather than the rsd ticker tape | 12:13 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: welcome home :) | 12:13 |
| Hobbsee | :D | 12:13 |
| Hobbsee | stdin: yeah - over the startup time, etc | 12:14 |
| stdin | I noticed that, it's lightning | 12:14 |
| Hobbsee | the lack of panel at the top of my screen is somewhat disturbing though | 12:14 |
| Hobbsee | particularly coming from gnome | 12:14 |
| Tm_T | haha | 12:14 |
| Riddell | damn, we should have a fridge story | 12:14 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: well I don't usually have panel even in the bottom, soo | 12:14 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: yeah me too... | 12:15 |
| Jucato | not having my usual 6 panels is disturbing... | 12:15 |
| Nightrose | hehe yea that was the first thing i noticed as well | 12:15 |
| Nightrose | but I will get used to that | 12:16 |
| Tm_T | Jucato: 6? | 12:16 |
| emonkey | damn it the ubuntu mirrors is faaaast, 5MB/s download of the Live CD | 12:16 |
| * Jucato kinda totally dislikes big single panel setups right now :) | 12:16 | |
| Jucato | Tm_T: 6, 3 above, 3 below :) | 12:16 |
| Tm_T | Jucato: hmm, interesting, I'm unable to get useful panels more than two | 12:16 |
| Tm_T | as in, third I can't configure | 12:17 |
| stdin | I only have 2, one on the bottom and one on the right (taskbar) | 12:17 |
| Jucato | Tm_T: actually it can be reduced to 2.. but for more configurability, I split them up | 12:17 |
| Tm_T | you mean panelpanel? or, some, special panel with their own settings? | 12:17 |
| Jucato | panel panel | 12:18 |
| Tm_T | mmmmh | 12:18 |
| stdin | panel panel panel | 12:18 |
| Tm_T | stdin: hug me | 12:18 |
| Jucato | hm.. actually.. panel kasbar panel, panel panel panel :D | 12:18 |
| Jucato | badger badger bagder | 12:18 |
| * stdin gives Tm_T a biiiiiiiiig hug | 12:18 | |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: here as well. this panel is huge! | 12:18 |
| Jucato | at least it's pretty though... | 12:19 |
| Jucato | but then again, Kubuntu's panel has always been pretty :) | 12:19 |
| Jucato | shiny!!! | 12:19 |
| stdin | mmmm, shiny | 12:19 |
| Hobbsee | dunno what to think of oxygen, though | 12:19 |
| Hobbsee | :D | 12:19 |
| presroi_ | greetings | 12:20 |
| Jucato | oxygen is... um... new :) | 12:20 |
| Hobbsee | so, how do i turn the compositing on? | 12:20 |
| stdin | Hobbsee: system settings > desktop > advanced (IIRC) | 12:20 |
| Jucato | right-click on window titlebar -> Configure Window Behavior | 12:20 |
| Jucato | bottom settings | 12:20 |
| Jucato | that too :) | 12:20 |
| Jucato | oooh.. System Settings is now pleasing to look at :P | 12:20 |
| stdin | yeah, it got a lot better | 12:21 |
| Hobbsee | awww, looking glass isn't great. compiz does that better | 12:21 |
| stdin | usable even | 12:21 |
| presroi_ | hi. When I try to install kde4, I get the following error from apt-get: | 12:22 |
| presroi_ | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 12:22 |
| presroi_ | kde4: Depends: kdeartwork-kde4 (>= 4:4.0.0) but it is not going to be installed | 12:22 |
| presroi_ | E: Broken packages | 12:22 |
| presroi_ | how do I fix this? | 12:22 |
| Hobbsee | install kdeartwork-kde4 | 12:22 |
| presroi_ | Reading state information... Done | 12:23 |
| presroi_ | E: Couldn't find package kdeartwort-kde4 | 12:23 |
| Hobbsee | presroi_: spell it correctly. | 12:23 |
| presroi_ | sorry. typo | 12:23 |
| presroi_ | I see it now | 12:23 |
| Jucato | :D | 12:23 |
| Hobbsee | oh, nice expose | 12:23 |
| presroi_ | oh, a miracle. it started to work :) | 12:23 |
| presroi_ | sorry | 12:23 |
| Jucato | we could probably start directing kde4 installation questions in here to #kubuntu?> | 12:23 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: well, we're all playing with it too for the moment | 12:24 |
| Jucato | wotey :) | 12:24 |
| presroi_ | Jucato: Which n-th person am I to ask kde4 related questions in this channel? | 12:24 |
| stdin | well, it looks like the backport is mixing with the PPA in a bad way .. | 12:24 |
| Jucato | presroi_: anyone. but stdin is likely to know :) | 12:25 |
| Jucato | stdin: we should have probably stuck to PPA's with KDE4 all the way | 12:25 |
| stdin | "you have -backports enabled, the backported packages are trickling through. you can either wait, or disable -backports temporally" < is my answer | 12:26 |
| stdin | has anyone updated !kde4 yet? | 12:26 |
| Jucato | feel free :) | 12:26 |
| Jucato | !kde4 | 12:27 |
| ubotu | kde4 is KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information, please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://tinyurl.com/2gqwmr - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php | 12:27 |
| stdin | you have ubotu-foo, not I :) | 12:27 |
| Jucato | give me the text then :) | 12:27 |
| * Jucato is wary of the wikipedia link though | 12:27 | |
| stdin | !no kde4 is <reply> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. - KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php | 12:28 |
| Jucato | !no kde4 is <reply> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. - KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ | 12:32 |
| ubotu | I'll remember that Jucato | 12:32 |
| === \sh_away is now known as \sh | ||
| Riddell | s/next/latest/ ? | 12:34 |
| Jucato | er... stdin didn't change that!! | 12:34 |
| stdin | !-kde4 | 12:34 |
| ubotu | kde4 aliases: kde 4 - added by apokryphos on 2006-06-18 20:48:00 | 12:34 |
| stdin | I blame apokryphos | 12:34 |
| Jucato | !no kde4 is <reply> KDE 4 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. - KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ | 12:35 |
| ubotu | I'll remember that Jucato | 12:35 |
| Jucato | hm.. technically is it a major release? (aren't the major releases 4.0, 4.1, 4.2 etc?) | 12:35 |
| Jucato | (of course Curious Joe probably wouldn't pwant to know...) | 12:35 |
| stdin | no, that's minor. <major>.<minor>.<patch> (minor is sometimes called "release" too) | 12:36 |
| * Hobbsee wonders if this stuff all looks better with polyester | 12:41 | |
| Jucato | change oxygen to polyester? | 12:41 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 12:41 |
| Jucato | is polyester ported to qt4 already? | 12:41 |
| mhb | it is | 12:41 |
| Hobbsee | the whole "grey on grey" really isn't doing it for me | 12:41 |
| Jucato | oh nice | 12:41 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: try the other color schemes? | 12:42 |
| Tm_T | http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/001.png <3<3<3<3<3<3<3 | 12:42 |
| Hobbsee | oh ouch. i must not have the gtk/qt engine thing | 12:42 |
| davmor2 | Tm_T: Nice | 12:56 |
| Tm_T | davmor2: indeed, well, not for everyone, but just perfect for me | 12:56 |
| davmor2 | Anyone else with some nice shots? | 12:56 |
| Tm_T | davmor2: shots from what? | 12:57 |
| davmor2 | screens sorry | 12:57 |
| Tm_T | yes, screenshots of/from what | 12:57 |
| Hobbsee | grah. bad kde. | 12:57 |
| apachelogger__ | Hobbsee: ? | 12:58 |
| Hobbsee | it's changed the text colour of some of the applets in gnome | 12:58 |
| davmor2 | kde4/3 in action | 12:58 |
| apachelogger__ | Hobbsee: now that sounds rather strange | 12:58 |
| Hobbsee | yes... | 12:59 |
| apachelogger__ | maybe an evil plan of KDE4 - make gnome desktops ugly | 12:59 |
| Hobbsee | whether it was in the gnome updates or something, i'm not sure | 12:59 |
| * apachelogger__ goes with the evil theory :P | 12:59 | |
| * Tm_T admits nothing! | 12:59 | |
| * apachelogger__ senses a party | 13:00 | |
| * Tm_T senses life and death | 13:00 | |
| Tm_T | oh, that's only me | 13:00 |
| apachelogger__ | mom, I don't like it when you talk about death | 13:01 |
| Tm_T | but its crucial part of life, son | 13:01 |
| apachelogger__ | Tm_T: why does it have to be that way? | 13:03 |
| Tm_T | because I say so! | 13:04 |
| apachelogger__ | :( | 13:04 |
| * apachelogger__ is listening to Tétris by Les Chapo-T on En Faîte [Amarok] | 13:04 | |
| apachelogger__ | Riddell: btw, amarok2 tech preview 1 is coming soon ... I'll create a package for testing, so we can decide whether it would make sense to include it into hardy | 13:05 |
| apachelogger__ | I kinda doubt that | 13:05 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger__: what I have seen, though haven't seen most recent status, no | 13:05 |
| apachelogger__ | well | 13:06 |
| apachelogger__ | it plays music | 13:06 |
| apachelogger__ | collection works somewhat | 13:06 |
| apachelogger__ | but that's about it | 13:06 |
| Tm_T | yu | 13:07 |
| Riddell | jjesse: the 4.0 live CD is not entirely unlike what I expect the hardy 4.0 CDs to be like (but the hardy CDs will have adept and other kde 3.0 missing bits on too) | 13:09 |
| jjesse | Riddell: awesome news thanks :) | 13:09 |
| Riddell | jjesse: for screenshots you probably want to set a blank background since I don't know what background we'll use | 13:10 |
| Riddell | although we might just use that default kde 4.0 one | 13:10 |
| jjesse | Riddell: thanks for all the hard work just getting some preasure | 13:10 |
| mhb | Riddell: that'd be a shame | 13:10 |
| mhb | Riddell: /me votes for one wallpaper for both KDE3 and KDE4 versions | 13:11 |
| mhb | and the default KDE4 one shouldn't be used in KDE3, I guess. | 13:11 |
| jjesse | +1 to mhb | 13:11 |
| * Hobbsee wonders what the heck is wrong with this | 13:13 | |
| mhb | Hobbsee: this being... ? | 13:13 |
| mhb | that pointer segfaults here | 13:13 |
| * apachelogger__ notes: party in 50 minutes | 13:13 | |
| Riddell | mhb: that would be sensible | 13:14 |
| Riddell | apachelogger__: is it a radio amarok party? | 13:15 |
| mhb | how come distros like Arch can gather dozens of nice logo suggestions when they need artwork, but we are so much lacking people? | 13:15 |
| txwikinger2 | Isn't it a bit early for a party? | 13:15 |
| mhb | mommy, the world's not fair! | 13:16 |
| apachelogger__ | Riddell: well, with radio amarok support, not about it though | 13:16 |
| apachelogger__ | txwikinger2: I was drinking beer at noon :P | 13:29 |
| apachelogger__ | today is KDE 4 day, means it's never too early for a party | 13:30 |
| txwikinger2 | well.. always those people south of the danube :p | 13:30 |
| apachelogger__ | :P | 13:31 |
| * apachelogger__ shouts: PARTEEEE | 13:31 | |
| * txwikinger2 thinks he should put his civil servant hat on and take an early TGIF | 13:31 | |
| * Riddell quoffs smoothie | 13:32 | |
| * apachelogger__ just hopes \sh is around :P | 13:36 | |
| \sh | apachelogger__: ^^ | 13:37 |
| apachelogger__ | very good :D | 13:38 |
| * \sh is going to drink some sekt | 13:38 | |
| * apachelogger__ adds a todo item and heads towards a cigarette | 13:38 | |
| * mornfall appears for a bit | 13:47 | |
| === apachelogger__ is now known as apachelogger | ||
| Riddell | guys, blog! I want that planet a nice shade of blue! | 13:54 |
| Riddell | jjesse: blog! | 13:54 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: blog! | 13:54 |
| Riddell | seele: wake up and blog! | 13:54 |
| Riddell | if jdub can do it, you can too! | 13:54 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: I've got bad dependencies on KDE4.. | 13:55 |
| Nightrose | those who give support in #kubuntu: amarok 1.4.8 lost my collection in kde 4 - a rescann solved it | 13:55 |
| jpatrick | looks like one thing still has to build.. | 13:56 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: what's that? | 13:56 |
| jpatrick | kdebase-runtime: Conflicts: kdebase-runtime-bin but 4:3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1 is to be installed. | 13:56 |
| Hobbsee | heh, what are we blogging about? :) | 13:56 |
| jpatrick | kdebase-runtime-bin: Depends: kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 (= 4:3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1) but 4:4.0.0-0ubuntu1~gutsy1 is installed | 13:56 |
| jpatrick | ? | 13:56 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: there is no kdebase-runtime-bin any more | 13:58 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: what version of kdebase-runtime is it trying to install? | 13:58 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: I think you need to remove your old packages first | 13:59 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: I have 4.0.0 of kdebase-runtime | 13:59 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: apt-get remove kdebase-runtime-bin | 14:00 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: it's not installed | 14:00 |
| Nightrose | ladies and gentleman!!! we gotta PARTY! | 14:01 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: let the party get started ;-) | 14:01 |
| * nosrednaekim can't wait for all of the kde4 support requests. | 14:01 | |
| jpatrick | !opsnack | 14:01 |
| ubotu | Chocolate! And Peanuts! | 14:01 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 14:01 |
| Jucato | class KDE4Dance : public Qt4Dance | 14:02 |
| * Hobbsee parties by apt-get clean | 14:02 | |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: sec | 14:02 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: so what's trying to install it? | 14:03 |
| Riddell | apt-cache rdepends kdebase-runtime-bin | 14:03 |
| gribelu | on hardy, is it normal that 'apt-get install kde4-core' tries to remove kdebase-bin-kde3? | 14:04 |
| * Riddell dances a gay gordons | 14:04 | |
| jpatrick | Riddell: almost everything - | 14:04 |
| jpatrick | *-kde* | 14:04 |
| jpatrick | *-kde4* | 14:04 |
| Riddell | gribelu: yes that's fine, the kde 4 one replaces it | 14:04 |
| gribelu | Riddell: thanks | 14:04 |
| nosrednaekim | hey... re we using .kde4 for the $KDEHOME? | 14:05 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: yes | 14:05 |
| Jucato | for kde4 apps | 14:05 |
| * jpatrick removes PPA kde4 | 14:05 | |
| nosrednaekim | ok. | 14:05 |
| Jucato | [20:34] <stdin> *NOTICE: If you're trying to install KDE 4.0.0 but are getting errors like "Depends: kdebase-workspace-bin (>= 4:4.0.0-0ubuntu1~gutsy1) but it is not going to be installed" then you need to temporarily disable the gutsy-backports repository or just wait until all the packages have made it into gutsy-backports* | 14:05 |
| jpatrick | Jucato: cheers | 14:06 |
| Riddell | meh, backports | 14:06 |
| Riddell | ppa is better | 14:06 |
| Jucato | :) | 14:07 |
| jpatrick | poor build machines.. | 14:08 |
| apachelogger | \sh: ping | 14:08 |
| gribelu | is the ppa needed on hardy? | 14:08 |
| jpatrick | gribelu: it's in hardy | 14:09 |
| gribelu | finally! .. the older kde4 releases made it into gutsy before hardy | 14:10 |
| jpatrick | gribelu: the build machines got pritoized that way | 14:10 |
| Riddell | gribelu: no | 14:11 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: \sh is lost | 14:11 |
| Nightrose | :/ | 14:11 |
| Nightrose | \sh: get back! | 14:11 |
| \sh | waa? | 14:11 |
| seele | Riddell: lol | 14:11 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: there he is ;-) | 14:12 |
| apachelogger | P-A-R-T-Y | 14:12 |
| * \sh has openscenegraph party right now :) | 14:12 | |
| nosrednaekim | wow, this is almost as crazy as the day gutsy was released | 14:12 |
| apachelogger | pfft | 14:12 |
| apachelogger | \sh: we defenitely rok more :P | 14:12 |
| * Riddell grabs apachelogger and dances | 14:12 | |
| * apachelogger is dancing | 14:12 | |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: can you plz get us insanity | 14:12 |
| apachelogger | now that sounds..... | 14:13 |
| Nightrose | sure sec | 14:13 |
| \sh | apachelogger: you are not in karlsruhe today? ,-) | 14:13 |
| apachelogger | \sh: I don't need to | 14:13 |
| apachelogger | we has tha IRC | 14:13 |
| \sh | apachelogger: you should...so we could party in RL and IRC ;) | 14:13 |
| apachelogger | \sh: next year :D | 14:13 |
| apachelogger | ~order birthday package | 14:14 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: there you got insanity | 14:14 |
| * insanity is running to the corner shop to get a birthday present. | 14:14 | |
| * insanity slides a birthday present down the bar to apachelogger and gives everyone a nice frosty mug of beer. | 14:14 | |
| insanity | Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday apachelogger, happy birthday to you!!!! - Wooooho! | 14:14 |
| insanity | Happy Birthday apachelogger :D | 14:14 |
| insanity | To your health! | 14:14 |
| * apachelogger starts singing | 14:14 | |
| apachelogger | oh | 14:14 |
| apachelogger | hehe | 14:14 |
| * \sh will watch "I am Legend" tonight, and then going into a nice bar for having a good dinner :) | 14:14 | |
| apachelogger | ~order birthday package for \sh | 14:14 |
| * Nightrose sings with apachelogger | 14:14 | |
| * insanity tosses 37 balloons in the raving crowd | 14:14 | |
| * \sh bounces | 14:14 | |
| insanity | apachelogger: dude, you rock! | 14:14 |
| * insanity turns on tha most funky party music as well as the all shiny disco ball. | 14:14 | |
| insanity | apachelogger: wanna dance with me? :-) | 14:14 |
| * insanity starts shaking her tight ass | 14:14 | |
| \sh | bounce bounce baby bounce bounce | 14:14 |
| apachelogger | letz do global birthday :D | 14:14 |
| * insanity slides a gigantic cake with 37 candles down the bar to apachelogger. | 14:15 | |
| apachelogger | uhhhh | 14:15 |
| apachelogger | hrrr | 14:15 |
| * insanity detects: a women is jumping out of apachelogger's gigantic cake!!! | 14:15 | |
| * insanity is running to the corner shop to get a birthday present. | 14:15 | |
| * insanity slides a birthday present down the bar to \sh and gives everyone a nice frosty mug of beer. | 14:15 | |
| insanity | Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday \sh, happy birthday to you!!!! - Wooooho! | 14:15 |
| insanity | Happy Birthday \sh :D | 14:15 |
| insanity | To your health! | 14:15 |
| apachelogger | now that is a flodd here | 14:15 |
| apachelogger | -d +o | 14:15 |
| \sh | harhar | 14:15 |
| * insanity tosses 37 balloons in the raving crowd | 14:15 | |
| * apachelogger grabs all the balloons | 14:15 | |
| apachelogger | mine, mine mine! | 14:16 |
| insanity | \sh: dude, you rock! | 14:16 |
| * insanity turns on tha most funky party music as well as the all shiny disco ball. | 14:16 | |
| insanity | \sh: wanna dance with me? :-) | 14:16 |
| * insanity starts shaking her tight ass | 14:16 | |
| * Nightrose sneaks behind apachelogger and steals a balloon | 14:16 | |
| * insanity slides a gigantic cake with 37 candles down the bar to \sh. | 14:16 | |
| apachelogger | ohnoes | 14:16 |
| * apachelogger sends orks out to get the balloons back | 14:16 | |
| Hobbsee | grah. now i've got the song about shiny disco balls in my head | 14:16 |
| Nightrose | haha | 14:16 |
| mhb | one is sure that it's insane in a channel when there's insanity partying with the people | 14:16 |
| * insanity detects: a women is jumping out of \sh's gigantic cake!!! | 14:16 | |
| gribelu | hey i got a weird message while installing kde4 ---> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51550/ .. installation kept on going but still | 14:16 |
| * apachelogger is streaming on Radio Amarok :: Happy BDay \sh :: http://radio.getamarok.com:8000/amarok.ogg :: #amarok.radio | 14:17 | |
| Nightrose | mhb: you should see the amarok channels sometimes ;-) | 14:17 |
| nosrednaekim | gribelu: looking | 14:17 |
| nosrednaekim | gribelu: ignore these psycos | 14:17 |
| apachelogger | lol | 14:18 |
| gribelu | :)) | 14:18 |
| * jpatrick sets the spanish channels' topic to kde4 spam | 14:18 | |
| * apachelogger starts dancing on his desk | 14:18 | |
| nosrednaekim | gribelu: make sure you install kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 | 14:18 |
| Hobbsee | people! meeting! | 14:18 |
| * apachelogger starts dancing on the meeting table | 14:18 | |
| apachelogger | ~order beer for \sh | 14:19 |
| * insanity gives \sh a nice frosty mug of beer. | 14:19 | |
| * nosrednaekim hits everyone with teh gavel | 14:19 | |
| * \sh wants to hear that | 14:19 | |
| apachelogger | nosrednaekim: dude, it's the first KDE 4 day | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | you really shouldn't be working | 14:19 |
| gribelu | nosrednaekim: hmmm it appears that it was installed even though i got that message.. maybe it's because i used aptitude? who knows.. | 14:20 |
| nosrednaekim | apachelogger: working? haha, no, i'm not working | 14:20 |
| apachelogger | most perfect | 14:20 |
| apachelogger | ~order beer for nosrednaekim | 14:20 |
| * insanity gives nosrednaekim a nice frosty mug of beer. | 14:20 | |
| \sh | apachelogger: when is my birthday song coming? ,-) | 14:20 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm, that must be after work | 14:20 |
| nosrednaekim | i'm underage! stop! | 14:20 |
| apachelogger | \sh: I have none :P | 14:20 |
| Hobbsee | ~order dinner | 14:20 |
| \sh | apachelogger: wanna have one? ,-) | 14:20 |
| apachelogger | \sh: I can offer the open source song though | 14:20 |
| * insanity slides dinner down the bar to Hobbsee | 14:20 | |
| apachelogger | \sh: will do my best | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | theoretically I could sing | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | but | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | you don't want that | 14:21 |
| nosrednaekim | gribelu: you are probably fine then :) | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: right? :P | 14:21 |
| Nightrose | right | 14:21 |
| Nightrose | ;-) | 14:21 |
| Nightrose | just as you would not want me singing | 14:21 |
| Hobbsee | ~order brain | 14:21 |
| * insanity shouts: OMG!!!!! RED ALERT! We lost a brain. Get me a medic, NOW! | 14:21 | |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: got a birthday song? | 14:22 |
| \sh | apachelogger: www.pornophonique.de -> CC song...bitte | 14:22 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: checking | 14:22 |
| \sh | apachelogger: 02 take me to the bonuslevel because i need an extralife.mp3 | 14:22 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: nope - get him pornophonic instead | 14:22 |
| yuriy | Jucato, nixternal: i only barely started the release notes :[, i didn't realize alpha 3 was already being released yesterday. Riddell just cut off all the old stuff from alpha 2. | 14:23 |
| \sh | apachelogger: http://www.pornophonique.de/download.php?song_id=9 :) | 14:23 |
| * apachelogger starts kget | 14:23 | |
| \sh | apachelogger: the whole album...and then the 2nd song of it :) | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 14:23 |
| Riddell | yuriy: nothing much had happened apart from 4.0 :) | 14:23 |
| \sh | apachelogger: with a nice little speech before that ,-) | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | hehe | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | \sh: my radio mic is br0ken | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | only have my mumble headset here | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | might sound kinda crappy :D | 14:23 |
| \sh | apachelogger: that's enough :) | 14:23 |
| * apachelogger is streaming on Radio Amarok :: Happy BDay \sh :: http://radio.getamarok.com:8000/amarok.ogg :: #amarok.radio | 14:24 | |
| Jucato | yuriy: kio-apt improvements would be a good one for the next alpha | 14:24 |
| Riddell | this tune reminds me of the early knoppix CDs :) | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | :D | 14:25 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: it still makes me feel that special feeling | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | proudness probably | 14:26 |
| \sh | lol-...you did it really | 14:26 |
| \sh | apachelogger: thx a lot :) | 14:27 |
| apachelogger | \sh: we are not there yet | 14:28 |
| * apachelogger writes a speech | 14:28 | |
| \sh | Nightrose: btw...check mr. gobby and come around 19:30 to the zkm cinema :)after that it's time to visit la cage :) | 14:28 |
| Nightrose | \sh: hehe he is in zurich - debian bug sprint :/ | 14:28 |
| Nightrose | left a few hours ago | 14:28 |
| \sh | Nightrose: oh...so you have to come :) | 14:28 |
| Nightrose | would love to but I really got a lot to do and I promissed apachelogger that we get to mumble tonight | 14:29 |
| Riddell | la cage? sounds hardcore | 14:29 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: haha it is | 14:29 |
| Nightrose | ;-) | 14:29 |
| \sh | Riddell: sportsbar...very nice girls :) | 14:29 |
| \sh | Riddell: and good food...especially the burgers :) | 14:29 |
| * Hobbsee raises an eyebrow | 14:29 | |
| \sh | like client eastwood with a lot of chilis | 14:29 |
| \sh | Hobbsee: http://www.lacage.de/ :) | 14:30 |
| \sh | ROTFL | 14:30 |
| Riddell | ooh, there's a DJ | 14:30 |
| \sh | OH | 14:30 |
| Riddell | who's that? | 14:30 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: apachelogger | 14:30 |
| \sh | Riddell: apachelogger | 14:30 |
| \sh | THX A LOT | 14:31 |
| Nightrose | ;-) | 14:31 |
| * apachelogger stands up and dances | 14:31 | |
| * Nightrose grabs apachelogger and dances | 14:31 | |
| * \sh is already dancing | 14:31 | |
| Nightrose | \sh: join in! | 14:31 |
| Nightrose | love this song | 14:31 |
| * Hobbsee stays not dancing, and throws hard lollies at you all | 14:31 | |
| Nightrose | outsch Hobbsee - what was that for? ;-) | 14:32 |
| * yuriy leaps over the dancers and dances | 14:32 | |
| Hobbsee | Nightrose: because i can? | 14:32 |
| Nightrose | hehe I see | 14:32 |
| rebugger | lol | 14:32 |
| * \sh catches his C64 and gameboy and playing the tunes | 14:32 | |
| \sh | the music is actualy played with a guitar, a gameboy and a c64...just as a hint... | 14:33 |
| \sh | nothing else...great stuff | 14:33 |
| rebugger | \sh: where can i hear it? | 14:33 |
| * Nightrose is listening to Elektronische Musik by paniq on Radio Amarok :: Happy Birthday \sh :: http://radio.getamarok.com:8000/amarok.ogg [Amarok] | 14:33 | |
| Nightrose | there | 14:34 |
| rebugger | thx | 14:34 |
| \sh | rebugger: well it was thx to apachelogger on radio amarok | 14:34 |
| \sh | rebugger: but you can download the stuff on www.pornophonique.de | 14:34 |
| \sh | rebugger: CC lic | 14:34 |
| apachelogger | cc ftw! | 14:35 |
| \sh | CC use for non-commercial stuff ;) | 14:35 |
| apachelogger | what happened to good old jazz | 14:40 |
| * \sh needs to take a screenshot of the amarok OSD :) | 14:40 | |
| * apachelogger starts singing | 14:42 | |
| Riddell | german umpa music! | 14:43 |
| Hobbsee | ~order brain for apachelogger | 14:43 |
| gribelu | humm.. the launcher doesn't display icons for any kde4 apps | 14:43 |
| insanity | Hobbsee: We are out of brain, you should reorder some of it. | 14:43 |
| Hobbsee | ~reorder brain | 14:43 |
| insanity | Billy Kay is on his way to the store.... | 14:43 |
| Riddell | is david hasslehoff in this? | 14:43 |
| * txwikinger2 suggests Mariachi | 14:43 | |
| apachelogger | omg | 14:43 |
| apachelogger | ~hassle | 14:43 |
| apachelogger | hm, probably was something else | 14:44 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose knows | 14:44 |
| txwikinger2 | Or tejano --- German umpa music with spanish words | 14:44 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: haha no - it is german ska | 14:44 |
| apachelogger | SKA | 14:44 |
| Nightrose | SKA ftw | 14:44 |
| apachelogger | we should do a music workshop | 14:44 |
| Nightrose | indeed | 14:44 |
| Nightrose | noone seems to know ska | 14:44 |
| apachelogger | next up: jazz | 14:44 |
| apachelogger | good old jazz | 14:44 |
| apachelogger | well, kind of at least ;-) | 14:44 |
| * apachelogger is streaming on Radio Amarok :: Happy BDay \sh :: http://radio.getamarok.com:8000/amarok.ogg :: #amarok.radio | 14:45 | |
| * Nightrose tries to find out what the hasslehoff comand was - give me a sec | 14:45 | |
| txwikinger2 | classical jazz, or modern jazz? | 14:45 |
| apachelogger | txwikinger2: modern = electro jazz? | 14:46 |
| txwikinger2 | modern like Manhattan Transfer | 14:46 |
| apachelogger | should I know manhattan transfer? :P | 14:47 |
| txwikinger2 | yes :p | 14:47 |
| apachelogger | what is it? | 14:47 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: I think insanity doesn't like me either now | 14:47 |
| txwikinger2 | A modern jazz group | 14:47 |
| apachelogger | cool | 14:47 |
| === uga|away is now known as uga | ||
| apachelogger | txwikinger2: doing CC music? | 14:47 |
| txwikinger2 | hmmm.. not that I know of ... missed that part | 14:47 |
| apachelogger | whatever | 14:48 |
| txwikinger2 | where is CC music? | 14:48 |
| apachelogger | jamendo.com | 14:48 |
| apachelogger | magnatune.com | 14:48 |
| txwikinger2 | Is it good? | 14:48 |
| apachelogger | it's CC :P | 14:48 |
| txwikinger2 | :[ | 14:48 |
| txwikinger2 | :p | 14:48 |
| \sh | rotfl | 14:49 |
| \sh | lol | 14:49 |
| \sh | you don't actually know what happened just now | 14:49 |
| apachelogger | Ah Celebrate | 14:49 |
| \sh | a recruiter phoned me on behalf of canonical | 14:49 |
| Nightrose | oO | 14:49 |
| txwikinger2 | They have recruiter? | 14:49 |
| \sh | if I want to work for canonical ubuntu mobile develpoment...packaging stuff | 14:50 |
| Nightrose | \sh: this must be your lucky day ;-) | 14:50 |
| Jucato | woot :) | 14:50 |
| * apachelogger never gets phoned by anyone :| | 14:50 | |
| \sh | Well, I said no :) | 14:50 |
| Jucato | aw.... | 14:50 |
| buz | anyone else noticed that if you run kde3 apps from konsole, they use .kde4 settings and colors? | 14:50 |
| Jucato | that was... anti-climactic... | 14:50 |
| jpatrick | Jucato: did you want rain? | 14:51 |
| Jucato | snow... but that'd be impossible :) | 14:51 |
| txwikinger2 | jpatrick: No.. already raining the whole day here | 14:51 |
| \sh | Riddell: try to get me from their list .. ;) | 14:51 |
| txwikinger2 | show I would take | 14:51 |
| Riddell | \sh: er, huh? | 14:51 |
| jpatrick | txwikinger2: I have sun, lots of sun | 14:51 |
| Hobbsee | \sh: interesting... | 14:51 |
| Riddell | \sh: did he/she have a name? | 14:51 |
| Hobbsee | \sh: probably due to MOTUship | 14:52 |
| \sh | Riddell: it's the recruiter company of canonical..they saw that I did much work for ubuntu motu etc. | 14:52 |
| \sh | Riddell: I wonder where they got my number from | 14:52 |
| txwikinger2 | phone book? | 14:52 |
| \sh | txwikinger2: not listed anywhere..but in xing | 14:53 |
| Hobbsee | \sh: linkedin? | 14:53 |
| \sh | Hobbsee: in linkedin i don't have a number listed...have I? | 14:53 |
| txwikinger2 | you are usually listed on Deutsche Telecom | 14:53 |
| Hobbsee | \sh: unsure | 14:53 |
| \sh | but in xing I didn't opened up my contact details to anyone..only for special people | 14:53 |
| \sh | no number on linkedin | 14:54 |
| * txwikinger2 wonders uif he can hack /sh's phone number in 5 minutes | 14:54 | |
| === \sh is now known as \sh_away | ||
| === \sh_away is now known as \sh | ||
| apachelogger | \sh: any special wish for last song? | 14:54 |
| txwikinger2 | I could call my old buddy's at DT | 14:55 |
| \sh | grmpf...konversation crashed | 14:56 |
| \sh | apachelogger: I don't know if this works...but Shout it out loud from kiss ,-) | 14:57 |
| apachelogger | hm | 14:57 |
| apachelogger | I think I don't have that song on my HD | 14:57 |
| * apachelogger connects to the NAS | 14:57 | |
| bobesponja | is there a way to make akregator open konqueror4.0 in a KDE 4.0 session? | 14:59 |
| === jpatrick_ is now known as jpatrick | ||
| apachelogger | \sh: 2 songs to go, it's backup session right now, so I have the slowest connection possible -.- | 15:06 |
| \sh | apachelogger: cool :) | 15:07 |
| * apachelogger is streaming on Radio Amarok :: Happy BDay \sh :: http://radio.getamarok.com:8000/amarok.ogg :: #amarok.radio | 15:10 | |
| apachelogger | ~part | 15:10 |
| apachelogger | \sh: there you go :D | 15:12 |
| \sh | head bang.. | 15:12 |
| \sh | cool apachelogger | 15:12 |
| uga | bobesponja: maybe (just maybe) if you open kcontrol, and set as default apps /usr/local/kde4.../ | 15:13 |
| iRon | Riddell: i'm working on bullet-proof-x, and now have a problem with displayconfig.. it failes with exception if there is no ServerLayout section in xorg.conf file. | 15:13 |
| iRon | Riddell: do i need to look at displayconfig and patch it? | 15:14 |
| \sh | NEIN | 15:14 |
| \sh | LOL | 15:14 |
| apachelogger | :D | 15:14 |
| bobesponja | uga: thanks | 15:14 |
| \sh | hahaha | 15:14 |
| apachelogger | Mr. president! | 15:14 |
| * \sh hugs apachelogger | 15:15 | |
| apachelogger | :) | 15:15 |
| Riddell | iRon: mm, sounds like it would need a bug fix | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | \sh: have a nice birthday :) | 15:15 |
| iRon | Riddell: there is already filled bug #173768 | 15:16 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 173768 in kde-guidance "The module Monitor & Display could not be loaded." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173768 | 15:16 |
| iRon | Riddell: i could fix it if no one working on it.. | 15:17 |
| Riddell | iRon: I'm quite certain nobody will be | 15:18 |
| iRon | ok | 15:18 |
| alleeHol | \sh: Happy birthday! | 15:19 |
| === alleeHol is now known as allee | ||
| jpatrick | \sh: herzlichen glückwunsch! | 15:24 |
| Riddell | tsk to \sh, Kubuntu has lower case u | 15:27 |
| apachelogger | hehe | 15:27 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: can you please initate a dragonplayer backport to gutsy? | 15:28 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: could do, have you tested it? | 15:28 |
| Riddell | seele: cheeky request there from young jono | 15:28 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: should build just fine, but if you want I'll kick off a pbuild | 15:29 |
| jpatrick | apachelogger: if it builds, +1 from me | 15:29 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: nah, I'm in a mood for some risk | 15:29 |
| apachelogger | ok | 15:30 |
| apachelogger | risk++ :D | 15:30 |
| apachelogger | ah, insanity left already | 15:30 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: although it might be better to ask stdin to throw it into the PPA | 15:30 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: well, both maybe | 15:30 |
| apachelogger | stdin: pling | 15:30 |
| seele | Riddell: lol.. if it weren't so damn difficult to keep up I would still have it :) | 15:36 |
| \sh | Riddell: when I want to include Kubuntu and Ubuntu people I always write KUbuntu :) | 15:39 |
| \sh | allee: jpatrick: thx :) | 15:39 |
| \sh | ok...time to leave the pc alone :) | 15:54 |
| \sh | thx to all for the fun:) cu later :) | 15:54 |
| === \sh is now known as \sh_away | ||
| jpatrick | willkommen zurück Nightrose | 15:59 |
| Nightrose | ;-) | 16:00 |
| Nightrose | just installed all the goodies kde4.core does not install | 16:00 |
| Nightrose | wohooooo | 16:00 |
| jpatrick | installed kde4? | 16:00 |
| jpatrick | that should have grabbed the rest | 16:01 |
| Nightrose | jep most of it - but IIRC the plasma stuff for example was not | 16:01 |
| serzholino | hi! Can someone please tell me command to just apply patches from debian/ dir without building packages | 16:03 |
| serzholino | package is kde4libs_4.0.0-0ubuntu1~gutsy1~ppa1 | 16:04 |
| jpatrick | serzholino: debian/rules apply-patches | 16:04 |
| serzholino | jpatrick: thanks a lot :) | 16:05 |
| jeroenvrp | 1. should http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdepim-kde4/ not be removes, because kdepim is not released for 4.0? | 16:14 |
| jeroenvrp | 2. How to disable the old kde4 packages in Gutsy? | 16:14 |
| jpatrick | jeroenvrp: removing them? | 16:15 |
| jeroenvrp | jpatrick: no, to disable to original shipped kde4 packages in the package-list | 16:15 |
| jpatrick | jeroenvrp: oh, those are frozen, don't think we can... | 16:16 |
| jeroenvrp | version 3.94 | 16:17 |
| jpatrick | updated in backports | 16:17 |
| jeroenvrp | can be confusing for people who want use gutsy | 16:17 |
| jeroenvrp | jpatrick: ? | 16:17 |
| jpatrick | jeroenvrp: we cannot update the packages in gutsy (archives are frozen (security/critical updates only)) so we've put them in backports | 16:18 |
| jpatrick | jeroenvrp: and for kdepim, I think the versions will conflict on those packages | 16:19 |
| jeroenvrp | ok | 16:20 |
| jeroenvrp | jpatrick: is there not an option to hide those packages? | 16:22 |
| jeroenvrp | or is that long apt-get story | 16:22 |
| jpatrick | jeroenvrp: no, PPA does not support packages removals | 16:23 |
| jeroenvrp | oh well, ok | 16:23 |
| jeroenvrp | installing kde4 is for the technical advance anyway, so it doesnt matter for me | 16:24 |
| jpatrick | pity, I know | 16:24 |
| nixternal | mornin' | 16:27 |
| jpatrick | moin nixternal | 16:28 |
| Jucato | moin nixternal! | 16:28 |
| jpatrick | guys, bit of help in #kubuntu with the n00bs? | 16:34 |
| nixternal | OK, where are the LiveCDs? Time to wipe this laptop :p | 16:58 |
| * nixternal is scared | 16:58 | |
| stdin | apachelogger_: pong | 16:58 |
| apachelogger_ | stdin: already solved, thanks :) | 17:00 |
| nixternal | man, there has got to be a ton of KDE 4 image downloads right now, or....ubuntu.com is slow as all hell today | 17:00 |
| _Shade_ | hi there | 17:00 |
| nixternal | howdy | 17:01 |
| stdin | apachelogger_: good good, it's nice to have nothing to do :) | 17:01 |
| nixternal | stdin: why are we all just standing here looking around? we have work to do! | 17:01 |
| apachelogger_ | stdin: especially on such a wonderful day like today :D | 17:01 |
| apachelogger_ | nixternal: work? | 17:01 |
| nixternal | Microsoft went under? | 17:01 |
| apachelogger_ | on KDE 4 day | 17:01 |
| apachelogger_ | are you totally insane | 17:01 |
| nixternal | oh KDE 4 | 17:01 |
| nixternal | hahahahaha | 17:01 |
| * apachelogger_ points his finger on nixternal | 17:01 | |
| stdin | I just got to watch TV for a few hours, haven't actually done that in weeks :p | 17:02 |
| DreadKnight | why is the font of konversation so damn small (running kde4) | 17:02 |
| _Shade_ | i'd like to ask can we, kubuntu users count on something more than just 4.0 (i mean kde) in hardy release. I find it's cool and good signing but very incomplete as well. I think it would leave users way behind regular ubuntu users | 17:02 |
| nosrednaekim | DreadKnight: it looks the same | 17:02 |
| nixternal | _Shade_: KDE 3.5.8? | 17:02 |
| nixternal | it is there too | 17:03 |
| dewd | Hi does anyone know where to get an updated kdenetwork-filesharing package that fixes the stupid dfs proxy= no bugs ? | 17:03 |
| nixternal | dewd: do you have a link to a bug? | 17:03 |
| _Shade_ | nixternal: but not by default right? | 17:03 |
| dewd | nixternal: moment | 17:03 |
| nixternal | your choice | 17:03 |
| * apachelogger_ is going to do a major patch session in kde4 packages | 17:04 | |
| nixternal | you can either download and use 3.5.x or 4.0 | 17:04 |
| apachelogger_ | fix some .0 bug | 17:04 |
| apachelogger_ | though | 17:04 |
| apachelogger_ | maybe I should go to that lug meeting thingy | 17:04 |
| nixternal | heh | 17:04 |
| apachelogger_ | or to that lan party | 17:04 |
| apachelogger_ | hm | 17:04 |
| apachelogger_ | oh well | 17:04 |
| Jucato | _Shade_: there will be 2 versions for 8.04, a KDE 3.5.x version and a 4.0.x version. the 4.0.x version will definitely need to have some KDE 3 apps in it | 17:04 |
| apachelogger_ | it's kde 4 day | 17:05 |
| apachelogger_ | holiday | 17:05 |
| apachelogger_ | so I'll go out | 17:05 |
| Jucato | heh :) | 17:05 |
| _Shade_ | nixternal: ah that's good :) | 17:05 |
| dewd | hmm only able to find an kubuntu bug i think | 17:05 |
| dewd | https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdenetwork/+bug/95452 | 17:05 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 95452 in kdenetwork "kde samba sharing doesn't work - remove msdfs proxy option in smb.conf" [Medium,Confirmed] | 17:05 |
| lextul | my next reinstall is when a hardy images come out with kde preinstalled | 17:06 |
| _Shade_ | Jucato: the kde4.0.x sounds better as well :) they might improve a lot of things in the ~x release | 17:06 |
| dewd | I saw some patch somewhere that should fix it but I could not apply | 17:06 |
| DreadKnight | nosrednaekim: well? http://imagebin.org/12978 | 17:06 |
| Jucato | _Shade_: don't get your hopes up too much. .x releases are mostly maintenance and bug fixes | 17:06 |
| === apachelogger_ is now known as apachelogger | ||
| Jucato | few new features... | 17:06 |
| lextul | my next reinstall is when a hardy images come out with kde 4.0 preinstalled | 17:07 |
| nixternal | dewd: guess today isn't a good day to look at the KDE bug tracker...I wonder whose idea that was | 17:07 |
| apachelogger | Jucato: in case of KDE 4.0 I'm really excited about .x releases :P | 17:07 |
| DreadKnight | damn small font in konversation issue :(( http://imagebin.org/12978 | 17:07 |
| dewd | nixternal: what do you mean ? | 17:07 |
| apachelogger | .0 scares me | 17:07 |
| nixternal | bugs.kde.org is offline to celebrate KDE 4 | 17:07 |
| Jucato | apachelogger: er.. I meant 4.x.x releases :) | 17:07 |
| nixternal | that is kind of annoying | 17:07 |
| apachelogger | Jucato: ha, no new features in 4.x? | 17:08 |
| dewd | apachelogger: I just installed it today but I am not using it .. plasma stuff is butt ugly | 17:08 |
| apachelogger | then kde4 is rather pointless :P | 17:08 |
| Jucato | KDE calls 4.0.x/3.5.x releases as "minor" releases... 4.x/3.x as "major" | 17:08 |
| nixternal | I would like to see the fix and see if it is going to be released with another 3.5.x point release (3.5.9) or if we should patch it from source | 17:08 |
| Jucato | apachelogger: new features will be in the 4.x releases. | 17:08 |
| apachelogger | nixternal: I told you | 17:08 |
| apachelogger | today is a holiday | 17:08 |
| nixternal | 4.0.x though will at least have added functionality | 17:08 |
| apachelogger | no ***** work! | 17:08 |
| nixternal | bah, I will go find work then | 17:09 |
| Jucato | :D | 17:09 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 17:09 |
| nixternal | maybe Gnome needs help :p | 17:09 |
| * nixternal dies | 17:09 | |
| * apachelogger throws his party head at nixternal | 17:09 | |
| apachelogger | *hat | 17:09 |
| nixternal | haha | 17:09 |
| apachelogger | awful that guy, total workoholic | 17:09 |
| nixternal | damn, threw an entire head at me | 17:09 |
| nixternal | if I don't do something I just might shrivel up | 17:09 |
| apachelogger | nixternal: play some kdegames-kde4 | 17:10 |
| nixternal | and seeing that KDE SVN is totally saturated right now and cdimage.ubuntu.com is wasted, I need to do something | 17:10 |
| nixternal | knetwalk! | 17:10 |
| apachelogger | have a look at the stars | 17:10 |
| nixternal | that is my game | 17:10 |
| apachelogger | or the earth | 17:10 |
| apachelogger | nixternal: mine too :d | 17:10 |
| * apachelogger played it while school today | 17:10 | |
| nixternal | I also like some of the new board games as well | 17:10 |
| apachelogger | the new games all rock imo | 17:10 |
| nixternal | I never liked kdegames in the past really, and honestly haven't had them installed on my box in quite a few years | 17:11 |
| nixternal | actually, I don't even have any games installed on my machines :) | 17:11 |
| nixternal | all about work man | 17:11 |
| _Shade_ | Jucato: well, we'll have to wait for kubuntu+2 to get usable kde4 then... :) but anyways... i wouldn't be very mad if i could get 3.5.8 next release. Generally all i would like to see is more ubuntu compatible distro | 17:11 |
| apachelogger | -.- | 17:11 |
| nixternal | hopefully a 3.5.9 :) | 17:11 |
| apachelogger | nixternal: now you just have to tell me that you have no p0rns and I'll send Nightrose over for a therapy | 17:12 |
| nixternal | no pr0n either | 17:12 |
| nixternal | pr0n is old and boring | 17:12 |
| apachelogger | omd! | 17:12 |
| Nightrose | oO | 17:12 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: therapy!!!! | 17:12 |
| nixternal | I went through that faze 15 years ago | 17:12 |
| _Shade_ | what about the policykit thingy? are you going to use that for kubuntu too? | 17:12 |
| apachelogger | _Shade_: it's planed | 17:12 |
| apachelogger | but not before hardy+1 | 17:12 |
| Nightrose | nixternal: I put you on my list for therapy - you get ticket #352 | 17:12 |
| Nightrose | :P | 17:13 |
| nixternal | I thought policykit was already in place...if it isn't, we are behind then | 17:13 |
| apachelogger | nixternal: prioirty push plz | 17:13 |
| nixternal | lol | 17:13 |
| * nixternal checks it out for Kubuntu | 17:13 | |
| apachelogger | very good | 17:13 |
| apachelogger | and | 17:13 |
| nixternal | I just uploaded it not long ago for foresight | 17:13 |
| apachelogger | don't tell me! | 17:13 |
| apachelogger | I weil have to eat your shorts | 17:13 |
| * apachelogger is wondering what weil woudl mean in english | 17:13 | |
| Jucato | !policykit | 17:13 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about policykit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 17:13 |
| * Jucato has no idea about these *Kit things... | 17:14 | |
| apachelogger | kit++ | 17:14 |
| _Shade_ | asking because the only thing i could read today in the "new in hardy alpha 3" section was: KDE4.0.0 :) | 17:14 |
| apachelogger | "get me home kit" | 17:14 |
| Jucato | _Shade_: the page was unfinished by the time alpha 3 went out | 17:14 |
| nixternal | also because there wasn't anything else really new for alpha 3 | 17:14 |
| nixternal | we will go into bug squashing mode here in the next few weeks I am assuming | 17:15 |
| _Shade_ | Jucato: you mean there's something more than just new kde in alpha3? how cool :) | 17:15 |
| Jucato | _Shade_: nixternal said so | 17:15 |
| nixternal | I didn't say anything :) | 17:15 |
| nixternal | I got my first release note break in 2 years, very much needed | 17:15 |
| iRon | _Shade_: i believe that nobody working right now on PolicyKit implementation in KDE | 17:16 |
| nixternal | weird how something so easy can burn you out | 17:16 |
| dewd | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/95460 | 17:16 |
| Jucato | _Shade_: understandable though... they were *very* busy with kde4 packages.. or would you rather they focused on the release notes instead? :D | 17:16 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 95460 in samba "samba 3.0.24 on feisty is broken - msdfs proxy option broken (dup-of: 95452)" [Unknown,Confirmed] | 17:16 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 95452 in kdenetwork "kde samba sharing doesn't work - remove msdfs proxy option in smb.conf" [Medium,Confirmed] | 17:16 |
| dewd | it seems it is _VERY_ old already | 17:16 |
| dewd | Why would something like this happen ? | 17:16 |
| Jucato | _Shade_, nixternal: although if I had been sane during these days, I would have suggested that Tonio's work on kio-apt be added | 17:16 |
| nixternal | that had been added previously I thought | 17:17 |
| nixternal | alpha 2 maybe | 17:17 |
| Jucato | can't find it :) | 17:17 |
| Jucato | no alpha 1, no alpha 2 :) | 17:17 |
| nixternal | there is a policykit implementation for KDE...there are a few distros already using it | 17:17 |
| _Shade_ | iRon: i was just curious, i think i can live without PolicyKit... but anyways | 17:18 |
| nixternal | Fedora (HAL only right now I think), Pardus, Foresight | 17:18 |
| nixternal | Red Hat is actually the one working on it I believe | 17:19 |
| _Shade_ | well i think kubuntu suffers a lack of good administratibve applications known from gnome... the point is all i can do is draw so i can draw them :P | 17:19 |
| Jucato | hm... | 17:20 |
| Jucato | s/gnome/ubuntu/ | 17:20 |
| yuriy | _Shade_: drawing them wouldn't be useless | 17:20 |
| nixternal | what can you admin in ubuntu that you can't admin in kubuntu? I don't use Ubuntu and don't pay attention to it | 17:20 |
| yuriy | if somebody is gonna implement them, they need to know what to implement | 17:21 |
| Jucato | ask Hobbsee then :P | 17:21 |
| nixternal | ouch | 17:21 |
| nixternal | So whoever cries for an emerge backend for PackageKit shouldn’t use Gentoo in the first place! | 17:22 |
| nixternal | lol, liquidat rocks! | 17:22 |
| _Shade_ | Jucato: nixternal i mean such apps like adept etc. I do not use them as well since they are rather unusable :) but what about the newcomers who ran it for the first time? | 17:23 |
| Jucato | _Shade_: work on Adept is progressing | 17:23 |
| nixternal | actually adept is quite usable, I just don't like it...I have been using aptitude for more than 10 years | 17:23 |
| * Jucato needs to blog again tomorrow... | 17:24 | |
| _Shade_ | Jucato: really? can i see any changelog then? | 17:24 |
| nixternal | you can also install Synaptic in Kubuntu quite easily and use it | 17:24 |
| Jucato | _Shade_: no. I don't want to show you | 17:24 |
| _Shade_ | or something more about it | 17:24 |
| nixternal | hahahahaha | 17:24 |
| nixternal | read the Planet! | 17:24 |
| Jucato | j/k... there's no changelog yet..it's in the very early process of porting to KDE4 and redesign | 17:24 |
| nixternal | yuriy just posted a blog post about it within the past day or so | 17:24 |
| yuriy | _Shade_: drawings of what you would consider usable for adept are welcome | 17:24 |
| nixternal | oh wait, there are a bunch of KDE 4 posts now so it might not be there :p | 17:24 |
| Jucato | nixternal: that's the problem why I don't want to blog yet... oversaturation :( | 17:25 |
| nixternal | oversaturate it, forget them gnomites | 17:25 |
| Jucato | lol | 17:25 |
| nixternal | when gnome releases .x you see nothing but smelly feet all over the planet | 17:25 |
| _Shade_ | yuriy: well i think whole of its gui should be reconsidered and redesigned | 17:26 |
| nosrednaekim | yuriy: I personally like synaptic's gui. | 17:26 |
| nixternal | Jucato: then again, I guess we really shouldn't snoop to their level | 17:26 |
| Jucato | nixternal: their level? that's ground level right? :) | 17:26 |
| Jucato | smelly feet :) | 17:26 |
| nixternal | Jucato: they are in the basement with MS and .NET throwing darts at a Stallman poster | 17:27 |
| voonte | _Shade_: why not design a ui file with the QtDesigner with some suggestions? | 17:27 |
| yuriy | nosrednaekim: last i tried it i didn't like it. mostly the search feature. search should be the foremost part of the package manager, as it is in adept and kynaptic | 17:27 |
| yuriy | adept just goes a little too far with it imho | 17:27 |
| _Shade_ | voonte: well i have never did that before (just playing around with it) but why not? | 17:28 |
| nosrednaekim | yuriy: I agree, the search bar should be like it is in adept_manager and most other kde apps. | 17:28 |
| Jucato | yuriy: I had a few UI ideas for my ideal package manager... I kinda lost them though... | 17:28 |
| nosrednaekim | but there are too many options for what to search for, etc | 17:28 |
| voonte | _Shade_: It's a good way to learn for sure :) | 17:28 |
| Jucato | never trust your brain... | 17:28 |
| nixternal | haha | 17:29 |
| yuriy | _Shade_: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/AdeptUsability unfortunately most of the pictures are missing, but new ones with new ideas would help | 17:29 |
| Jucato | nosrednaekim: that's actually good.. the bad part is that too much is exposed at once... quite overwhelming... | 17:29 |
| Jucato | sensory overload | 17:29 |
| nosrednaekim | yeah | 17:29 |
| yuriy | mornfall: so, if you're around and awake, my question was, what's the plan for the details view? | 17:33 |
| _Shade_ | yuriy: just reading... but i think adding package management capabilities to konqueror would be enough. Smooth and easy | 17:35 |
| Jucato | _Shade_: done | 17:35 |
| Jucato | Hardy will have a Konqueror-based "1 click" installer | 17:36 |
| _Shade_ | Jucato: yeah i heard that it is planned for implementation. I need to download an iso to see it in action | 17:36 |
| Jucato | not planned. implemented already | 17:36 |
| Jucato | just needs a few more fixes and aesthetics | 17:36 |
| _Shade_ | Jucato: great, does it allow to search for packages in the repos? | 17:37 |
| Jucato | of course | 17:37 |
| Jucato | you remember apt:/ in Konqueror? | 17:37 |
| _Shade_ | Jucato: indeed | 17:38 |
| Jucato | you can search, and then click on the Install button to install | 17:38 |
| Jucato | or you can directly install with apt://<packagename> | 17:38 |
| _Shade_ | Jucato: but is it an option in menubar or konqueror start page or how does it looks actually? | 17:39 |
| Jucato | basically it still looks the same apt:/ | 17:39 |
| Jucato | it just launches adept_batch to do the dirty work | 17:39 |
| nosrednaekim | does the apt:/ kioslave work with kde4? | 17:40 |
| Jucato | haven't tested | 17:41 |
| _Shade_ | Jucato: ah i see. Could be nice to have the option when starting konqueror, when the most common tasks are displayed (home, storage, etc) | 17:41 |
| Jucato | maybe... :) | 17:41 |
| Jucato | nosrednaekim: oh it hasn't been ported to KDE4 yet iirc | 17:41 |
| mornfall | yuriy: Hi. | 17:41 |
| _Shade_ | Jucato: but it is a pretty big progress anyways | 17:42 |
| mornfall | yuriy: Well, probably something akin to what's been in Adept 2.x. | 17:42 |
| * Jucato waves to mornfall :) | 17:42 | |
| _Shade_ | mornfall might be a bit dissapointed about the adept complains again and again :) | 17:45 |
| mornfall | yuriy: Hm? | 17:45 |
| mornfall | Er. | 17:45 |
| mornfall | That was to _Shade_ | 17:45 |
| mornfall | . | 17:45 |
| mornfall | Well, dinner. | 17:47 |
| mornfall | yuriy: Basically, what we have in adept now: dependencies, file list, possibly changelog... dunno. Tags. | 17:48 |
| _Shade_ | mornfall: no i am just thinking about how to improve package management in kubuntu, so i had to point some bad things in adept | 17:49 |
| yuriy | mornfall: with the history thing, or just display the info for the currently selected package? | 17:50 |
| _Shade_ | mornfall: i would prefer more simple interface, and leave all those ticks and radio buttons as an option | 17:50 |
| stdin | hmm, 100 users in -devel, not bad :) | 17:51 |
| nosrednaekim | :) | 17:52 |
| yuriy | mornfall: i meant more of how it is brought up and whether to have the back/forward buttons. content is mostly obvious or at least can be added later easily | 17:52 |
| yuriy | also i updated/pulled and am now getting linking errors | 17:53 |
| mornfall | yuriy: What kind of linking error? | 18:09 |
| yuriy | mornfall: nevermind, fixed it. make clean wasn't enough cleaning up i guess | 18:10 |
| mornfall | yuriy: I do out-of-tree builds as a matter of rule. | 18:11 |
| mornfall | CMake produces a lot of mess in the build directory. | 18:12 |
| yuriy | mornfall: yep i was too, just had to delete the cmake stuff and run it again | 18:12 |
| yuriy | anyways, about details behavior | 18:12 |
| mornfall | Right. | 18:13 |
| yuriy | i personally found the back/forward thing in the details view confusing. I would be fine with just having it show details for the currently selected package (the only you clicked details for..) but i don't know if other people find the history feature useful | 18:17 |
| yuriy | s/only/one | 18:17 |
| mornfall | Well, it is basically essential for the dependency navigation usecase. | 18:18 |
| mornfall | Which is a nontrivial part of what details view is for. | 18:18 |
| yuriy | ah. | 18:20 |
| mornfall | I was considering to change that to a "trail" view, which would list all (recently) visited packages. | 18:21 |
| yuriy | a thought: maybe only keep history for items entered through the details view | 18:22 |
| mornfall | Dunno. | 18:22 |
| Jucato | breadcrumb bar like Dolphin's? | 18:22 |
| mornfall | Breadcrumbs don't solve that. | 18:22 |
| yuriy | although it would be a neat (albeit bizarre) way to view a dependency tree | 18:23 |
| Jucato | I thought that was what you meant by the trail view :) | 18:23 |
| mornfall | Once I even had a tabbed view for the details... But dunno about that as well. | 18:23 |
| mornfall | yuriy: Dependencies do not form a tree, mind you. | 18:23 |
| mornfall | Jucato: List of recently visited items is a different concept from breadcrumbs, as far as I can tell. | 18:24 |
| Jucato | aaah | 18:24 |
| bddebian | Heya | 18:25 |
| yuriy | mornfall: my thoughts on the details view from a while ago: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adept/+bug/82428 | 18:25 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 82428 in adept "adept details view usability" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 18:25 |
| mornfall | Looking. | 18:26 |
| yuriy | half of that is already solved though | 18:27 |
| yuriy | sounds like nixternal couldn't figure out the back/forward buttons either | 18:27 |
| mornfall | Bleh. | 18:29 |
| nixternal | yuriy: nah, I just commented/confirmed on that one....I never really paid attention to them honestly | 18:30 |
| nixternal | been a while since I commented on that I think | 18:30 |
| jjesse | wow 6.9 kb/s download on alpha3 for hardy from cdimage.subuntu.com | 18:42 |
| jjesse | that's awesome speed | 18:42 |
| stdin | almost dial-up speeds | 18:42 |
| stdin | wow, my post to kubuntu-users got 30 replies so far :p | 18:45 |
| mornfall | ... | 18:47 |
| TheInfinity | hmm | 18:48 |
| TheInfinity | cd images servers have problems atm, hmm? | 18:48 |
| TheInfinity | is there any way to get it via bittorrent? | 18:49 |
| TheInfinity | kubuntu alpha3? | 18:49 |
| === marseillai_ is now known as marseillai | ||
| mhb | heh | 19:00 |
| mhb | have you checked bugs.kde.org today? | 19:00 |
| stdin | "bugs.kde.org is temporarily offline to celebrate KDE 4.0.0 launch." heh :) | 19:04 |
| blueyed | sweet. good tactic to not get too many bug reports.. ;) | 19:07 |
| mhb | well, I find it a bit ... cowardly | 19:07 |
| stdin | the're setting it up for kde4 (or so I've heard) | 19:08 |
| nixternal | http://www.nixternal.com/~rj/kdepimpin.png | 19:13 |
| nixternal | haha | 19:13 |
| mornfall | yuriy: So, ideas? | 19:14 |
| mhb | stdin: they should have written it there, this way it just confuses people | 19:15 |
| yuriy | mornfall: i'll work on implementing the basic view and meanwhile i'll think about it. just wanted to know if you had any intentions. | 19:23 |
| yuriy | mornfall: other question: are there going to be columns/headings in the list view? | 19:24 |
| jjesse | interesting using updated 4.0.0 packages, i can't authenticate via konqueror kde4 to my outlook web access site for work | 19:24 |
| mornfall | yuriy: No, probably not. But I will eventually add a sorting combo. | 19:24 |
| mornfall | yuriy: As for history, don't worry about it just yet. | 19:25 |
| mornfall | yuriy: Just make sure that you give an interface to: show package (using ept::Token) and update view. | 19:26 |
| mornfall | yuriy: Do you have a working preview in your checkout? | 19:29 |
| mornfall | (Well, either way probably pull ept...) | 19:30 |
| mornfall | I'll probably go offline in a while and work on "apply changes". | 19:31 |
| mornfall | yuriy: It would also be good, if you could grab http://anna.fi.muni.cz/~xrockai/icons.tar.gz and figure how to put them into source and install them properly. I currently have them under ~/.kde/share/apps/adept_manager/ to get them in the appp. | 19:34 |
| mornfall | yuriy: The bit that looks for them is under adept/util.h, scaledIcon( ... ) | 19:34 |
| mornfall | yuriy: You can twiddle with both to make them reasonably installable and loadable. The icons should be proportional to font size. | 19:35 |
| mornfall | (That is what scaledIcon does.) | 19:35 |
| mornfall | I am off the network for today I suppose, see you tomorrow : - ). | 19:36 |
| yuriy | mornfall: ok, bye | 19:40 |
| yuriy | mornfall: and yes, preview works | 19:41 |
| === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh | ||
| mhb | mornfall: no, ty ikonky by mohly bejt lepsejsi... | 19:47 |
| mhb | :o) | 19:47 |
| iRon | mhb: which icons? ;) | 19:50 |
| mhb | the ones he mentioned a few minutes ago | 19:51 |
| iRon | mhb: polski majzhe jak ukrainsky :)) | 19:52 |
| mhb | iRon: česky, actually :o) | 19:53 |
| iRon | oh :) | 19:53 |
| mhb | Riddell: there's something rotten in the state of amarok hardy (again the Hamlet quote) | 20:14 |
| mhb | Riddell: amarokapp: error while loading shared libraries: libtag.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 20:15 |
| mhb | Riddell: that means it counts on some library that is not a dependency of amarok (otherwise I'd have it) | 20:15 |
| * jpatrick has an error with Konqueror KDE4 settings | 20:16 | |
| jpatrick | "Shared library was not found.Library not found" | 20:17 |
| nixternal | we will have to create a symlink to /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kubuntu to /usr/lib/kde4/share/doc/kde/HTML/en | 20:17 |
| danimo | something is horribly broken about konquerors kcm's | 20:17 |
| danimo | can anyone confirm? | 20:17 |
| danimo | (KDE 4 packages) | 20:17 |
| jpatrick | danimo: what I just said? | 20:18 |
| * danimo reads up | 20:18 | |
| danimo | jpatrick: oh, indeed :) | 20:18 |
| danimo | jpatrick: sorry :) | 20:18 |
| Nightrose | mhb: you are right - I will investigate that with apachelogger later today | 20:18 |
| Nightrose | mhb: I think it might be a problem of amarok file tracking - | 20:18 |
| jpatrick | danimo: no problems. Confirmed :) | 20:19 |
| Nightrose | mhb: ohh you mean package wise broken... - well then not the same ;-) | 20:19 |
| danimo | and neither cookies nor flash work forme | 20:19 |
| jpatrick | yes, I was looking for the cookies for gmail | 20:19 |
| mhb | Nightrose: it is a missing library, so my bet is on packages | 20:19 |
| Nightrose | mhb: yea - we had a few problems of people missing their libraries - fixed by a rescan though | 20:20 |
| Nightrose | collection even | 20:20 |
| jpatrick | danimo: I'm installing kde4-core, see if that does something | 20:21 |
| mhb | Nightrose: yes, this is a missing dynamic library file, so something different | 20:21 |
| danimo | jpatrick: that's the old package | 20:21 |
| danimo | jpatrick: no? | 20:21 |
| danimo | 3.95 or such | 20:22 |
| nixternal | jpatrick: site back and enjoy lunch and dinner...repos are being hammered it seems | 20:22 |
| jpatrick | danimo: it's a metapackage we made to place in the basic install of kde4 | 20:22 |
| jpatrick | nixternal: I've had dinner ;) | 20:22 |
| nixternal | time for a snack and maybe a nap then :) | 20:23 |
| danimo | jpatrick: if I install some of those metapackages, I get one single blob (IIIRC I tried to install kde4base) | 20:23 |
| nixternal | just need to get effects working on my crappy ati card | 20:23 |
| danimo | jpatrick: and it conflicts, because it says it's from KDE 3.95 or 6 | 20:23 |
| jpatrick | danimo: hey it fixed it here... | 20:23 |
| nosrednaekim | nixternal: old enough for open source drivers? | 20:23 |
| nixternal | nosrednaekim: Radeon 9700 | 20:23 |
| danimo | ok.. | 20:23 |
| nosrednaekim | nixternal: ummm is that old enough? | 20:24 |
| nixternal | Driver "ati" <- aren't those the opensource drivers there? | 20:24 |
| mhb | ah, nosrednaekim, just my kind of guy | 20:24 |
| jpatrick | danimo: try installing kdebase-kde4 | 20:24 |
| danimo | looks indeed pretty basic :) | 20:24 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: how goes progress on that compiz configuration? | 20:24 |
| nosrednaekim | mhb: why thanks :) | 20:24 |
| danimo | jpatrick: yupp, I know | 20:24 |
| nosrednaekim | mhb: working great | 20:24 |
| danimo | (now :) | 20:24 |
| jpatrick | Unable to communicate with the cookie handler service. | 20:25 |
| nosrednaekim | mhb: got some little things to tweak... so that it knows what state compiz is in when you start it | 20:25 |
| ryanakca | mhb: pong? | 20:27 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: there's an idea I wanted to discuss with you later | 20:27 |
| nosrednaekim | mhb: ok.... anytime | 20:28 |
| nixternal | I take it kdm-kde4 doesn't work? | 20:29 |
| nixternal | I get a critical error with it | 20:29 |
| mhb | ryanakca: how's the website progress? | 20:29 |
| nosrednaekim | nixternal: for some it seems to | 20:29 |
| mhb | ryanakca: last I remember you were pondering about pinging the planet for mockups and suggestions | 20:29 |
| ryanakca | mhb: I thought I was supopsed to poll planet? | 20:29 |
| ryanakca | mhb: yes... I'm about to do that, unless we've had a change of heart? | 20:29 |
| mhb | well, no :o) | 20:29 |
| jpatrick | nixternal: it's "borked" basically | 20:29 |
| mhb | I just haven't seen the post for a few days, so I thought you had a change of heart | 20:30 |
| ryanakca | mhb: no, I had bagpipes on wednesday, and then last night I had to projects to finish for today :) | 20:31 |
| mhb | ah | 20:31 |
| ryanakca | mhb: give them a week to submit them? | 20:31 |
| mhb | them? | 20:31 |
| ryanakca | s/to/two | 20:31 |
| ryanakca | give the planet two weeks to submit the mockups? | 20:31 |
| mhb | okay. | 20:31 |
| ryanakca | or one? | 20:31 |
| mhb | Riddell: false alarm, must have been a broken library on my part, sorry. | 20:32 |
| mhb | two | 20:32 |
| ryanakca | okies | 20:35 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: regarding that idea | 20:37 |
| nosrednaekim | mmhm | 20:37 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: I've been thinking how can you make creating new guidance modules really fast | 20:37 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: if you reduced one module to editing a config file (that's quite common) then all you need to do is a) create the UI b) write the write config/read config part | 20:38 |
| nosrednaekim | yes... | 20:39 |
| mhb | I was wondering whether a script, much like kdepyuic, could load an .ui file and a metadata txt file (with possible options and explanations) and it would result in a functional guidance module, without just the read() and write() functions | 20:39 |
| mhb | so all the programmer has to do is write the parser for the config file | 20:40 |
| nosrednaekim | sounds interesting. | 20:41 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: do you have opensuse install by any chance? | 20:41 |
| mhb | or some live CD you can launch YaST from | 20:42 |
| nosrednaekim | mhb: no | 20:42 |
| mhb | hmm, too bad | 20:42 |
| nosrednaekim | I last used that like 2 years ago | 20:42 |
| nosrednaekim | not any recent version,.no | 20:42 |
| nosrednaekim | but I could probably get one. | 20:42 |
| mhb | I'd like to see YaST now and see how much functionality does Kubuntu lack | 20:42 |
| mhb | because of my bandwidth limits, I can't just download a CD and check it out myself. | 20:43 |
| nosrednaekim | I'll get my dad to grab a liveCD | 20:43 |
| nosrednaekim | the PClinuxOS control center is nice as well. | 20:44 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: I'll check out the web for screenshots | 20:46 |
| nosrednaekim | its the same as Mandriva's | 20:46 |
| mhb | never seen either | 20:47 |
| Riddell | sebas: could just be me but your hackergotchi on planet ubuntu is looking a bit tired today | 20:47 |
| nosrednaekim | major bug #1 of kde4/kubuntu integration. link kdesu to kdesudo! | 20:47 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 | 20:47 |
| sebas | Riddell: Nice catch. I didn't actually sleep much this week | 20:48 |
| sebas | I'll make up for that this weekend of course | 20:49 |
| sebas | You're probably still recovering from the early release party? | 20:50 |
| * nixternal misses Konsole transparency already | 20:51 | |
| * jpatrick misses yakuake | 20:51 | |
| nosrednaekim | nixternal: turn on desktop effects and you can have it back | 20:51 |
| nixternal | they are turned on | 20:51 |
| nixternal | what do I have to do to get konsole transparent? | 20:52 |
| sebas | nixternal: konsole --enable-transparency | 20:52 |
| mhb | change the theme I presume | 20:52 |
| sebas | With no konsole running :) | 20:52 |
| nixternal | let me try that...brb | 20:52 |
| jpatrick | mhb: no themes that I can see.. | 20:52 |
| nixternal | and sebas you are my hero :) | 20:52 |
| nixternal | KDE 4 on Intel == <3 | 20:53 |
| nixternal | just gotta shut off them annoying sounds :) | 20:53 |
| mhb | jpatrick: edit current profile, appearance ... you'll find it eventually | 20:53 |
| nixternal | and Kontact is rockin' in KDE 4...just gotta shut off this touch pad so I quit moving the mouse accidentally | 20:53 |
| jpatrick | mhb: thanks! | 20:55 |
| yuriy | nixternal: i haven't figured out how to make the konsole background transparent (or i did, and it doesn't work) but you could always change the opacity of the window | 20:56 |
| nixternal | yuriy: konsole --enable-transparency | 21:12 |
| nixternal | works like a champ | 21:12 |
| * blueyed finds transparent windows rather disturbing.. what transparency value are you using? | 21:19 | |
| === gryc_ is now known as gryc | ||
| nixternal | 25% | 21:29 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: do we need to package any extragear stuff? | 21:36 |
| nosrednaekim | jpatrick: please do package the old style menu | 21:38 |
| jpatrick | hehe | 21:38 |
| Riddell | not a bad idea that, it's in playground | 21:38 |
| jpatrick | any tar? | 21:39 |
| nosrednaekim | jpatrick: I think its SVN ATM | 21:42 |
| jpatrick | nosrednaekim: yes, I've just poked around websvn.* for it | 21:43 |
| nosrednaekim | its called "simplemenu" | 21:43 |
| jpatrick | nosrednaekim: btw could you relink me to supercat? | 21:46 |
| jpatrick | nosrednaekim: it got rejected.. | 21:46 |
| nosrednaekim | yeah | 21:46 |
| nosrednaekim | why? | 21:46 |
| nosrednaekim | why was it rejected that is | 21:46 |
| nosrednaekim | http://supercat.nosredna.net should do it | 21:47 |
| jpatrick | I made a slight mistake on the copyright file... :) | 21:47 |
| blueyed | Riddell: is it known already that the kde-system-settings icon is missing? | 21:49 |
| * blueyed hopes that kubuntu tracks the kde-4.0 branch closely.. :) | 21:49 | |
| nixternal | jpatrick: the only extragear item left is ligature, and honestly it is a mess | 21:56 |
| nixternal | and since we have Okular, not having ligature isn't hurting my feelings :) | 21:56 |
| nixternal | bah, I am going to have to install Firefox so I can watch break.com | 21:57 |
| nixternal | darnit..I was hoping to stay away from that | 21:57 |
| jpatrick | nixternal: ok | 21:57 |
| nixternal | jpatrick: if you seriously want to work on it, grab from SVN as I uploaded the CMake fixes last night | 21:58 |
| jpatrick | nosrednaekim: supercat source package made | 21:58 |
| * jpatrick fees to pbuilder | 21:59 | |
| jpatrick | "nosrednaekim: supercat source package made" | 22:00 |
| nosrednaekim | :) | 22:00 |
| jpatrick | nosrednaekim: now, let's see if pbuilder likes it | 22:02 |
| jpatrick | oh my, that was fast | 22:02 |
| nosrednaekim | its a tiny program | 22:02 |
| jpatrick | nosrednaekim: supercat uploaded | 22:09 |
| nosrednaekim | :) | 22:10 |
| jpatrick | pbuilder and lintian both liked it | 22:11 |
| jjesse | if i was trying to troubleshoot we a kde4 session freezes whenever i do something with hig h disk activity where would i look/ | 22:12 |
| jpatrick | nixternal: ligature appears to have no COPYING file (in svn at least) | 22:12 |
| nixternal | hrmm | 22:13 |
| jjesse | hello rich | 22:13 |
| nixternal | it doesn't have one in the tarball either | 22:13 |
| nixternal | howdy johnny boy | 22:13 |
| jpatrick | nosrednaekim: arg, it's already in Deban | 22:13 |
| nosrednaekim | jpatrick: yeah.. I know. | 22:14 |
| jpatrick | nosrednaekim: ah well | 22:14 |
| nixternal | jpatrick: I wouldn't even waste my time on ligature honestly | 22:14 |
| jpatrick | nosrednaekim: they just synced it across | 22:14 |
| nosrednaekim | jpatrick: never mind the simple menu is already in the packages | 22:14 |
| jpatrick | ah, so all my work, is donde 8) | 22:15 |
| jpatrick | done* | 22:15 |
| jpatrick | nixternal: ok then :) | 22:15 |
| jpatrick | nixternal: well add a COPYING file with credit to me ;) | 22:28 |
| blueyed | http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=66 | 22:28 |
| jpatrick | lo Tonio_ | 22:38 |
| Tonio_ | hi there | 22:39 |
| nixternal | hola Tonio_ | 22:39 |
| jpatrick | http://tinyurl.com/2ftpj9 - hmm :( | 22:41 |
| nixternal | search KDE in either Google News or Digg | 22:42 |
| nixternal | nothing but KDE 4 stuff with Gnome, Windows, and Mac fan bois calling everyone names | 22:42 |
| nosrednaekim | haha | 22:43 |
| mhb | so the battle has begun | 22:44 |
| nosrednaekim | I like very much how kde4 is giving tons of press to kubuntu | 22:44 |
| mhb | Riddell: speaking of kde4 and kubuntu and live CDs... any ETA on that rejiggering thing? | 22:45 |
| jpatrick | http://www.news.com/8301-13580_3-9849110-39.html?tag=newsmap | 22:45 |
| jpatrick | end of third paragraph | 22:45 |
| mhb | like they say | 22:46 |
| mhb | there's no such thing as bad publicity | 22:46 |
| Riddell | mhb: I've not heard anything about it | 22:51 |
| Riddell | I'll ask | 22:51 |
| jpatrick | night everyone! see you at the meeting tomorrow | 22:52 |
| mhb | right | 22:53 |
| nixternal | bah, early meeting | 22:56 |
| nixternal | 05:00 | 22:56 |
| nixternal | about the time I will be going to sleep | 22:56 |
| nixternal | anyone up for membership tomorrow? | 22:56 |
| nosrednaekim | i have to be up early anyway... | 22:56 |
| nosrednaekim | maybe I can drop in | 22:57 |
| nixternal | on a Saturday? | 22:57 |
| nixternal | I am going out tonight and partying like a KDE 4.0 Rockstar! | 22:57 |
| nixternal | now I got a pimp goblin that says KDE on its way | 22:57 |
| nixternal | I will be the Bishop Pimp Daddy | 22:57 |
| nixternal | is it me, or is Kontact in KDE 4 much faster than it is in KDE 3 | 22:58 |
| nixternal | when it downloads email, it is silent in KDE 4, when it does it in KDE 3, I know it is happening | 22:58 |
| apachelogger | xRaich[o]2x: plinggggggggggggg | 22:59 |
| mhb | I thought kdepim is not in KDE4 | 22:59 |
| xRaich[o]2x | apachelogger: pong | 22:59 |
| mhb | isn't kontact kdepim? | 22:59 |
| apachelogger | xRaich[o]2x: kopete got no jabber? | 22:59 |
| xRaich[o]2x | apachelogger: it works but only with english locals | 22:59 |
| mhb | apachelogger: kopete4 got jabber, pretty crashy though | 23:00 |
| apachelogger | mhb: well .1 ain't any better right now | 23:00 |
| xRaich[o]2x | apachelogger: kde4 went bonkers with german locals on my computer | 23:00 |
| apachelogger | xRaich[o]2x: screenie | 23:00 |
| nosrednaekim | I think KDE4 is giving k/ubuntu new users as well. | 23:01 |
| xRaich[o]2x | didn't take one but the protocols didn't show up when i wanted to add an account | 23:01 |
| nosrednaekim | seein as how we are one of the most prepared distros | 23:01 |
| xRaich[o]2x | i removed the german locals | 23:01 |
| xRaich[o]2x | but even after removing they did not show up | 23:01 |
| mhb | I wanted to congratulate Riddell on his really good work on the packages/live CD/ppa/backports | 23:01 |
| Riddell | moi? | 23:02 |
| mhb | I was always a bit ashamed when SUSE had a CD but Kubuntu had not even the packages built | 23:02 |
| mhb | (during the betas and rcs) | 23:02 |
| xRaich[o]2x | apachelogger: should i take one? | 23:02 |
| mhb | but this time, everything was ready, that was awesome, thanks Riddell | 23:02 |
| nosrednaekim | yeah... you guys really came out on top here. | 23:03 |
| apachelogger | xRaich[o]2x: yes | 23:03 |
| Riddell | the trick is to pretty much not use backports, it's far too slow | 23:04 |
| xRaich[o]2x | ok just let me save my current .kde4 give me a couple of minutes | 23:04 |
| nixternal | mhb: it is kdepim3 | 23:06 |
| blizzzek | gn8 | 23:06 |
| mhb | nixternal: so kontact is using the old kdepim, but has a new look? | 23:06 |
| nixternal | no, it has the same old look...it uses your settings from ~/.kde3 | 23:07 |
| nixternal | even uses the icon theme I had in kde3 | 23:07 |
| mhb | nixternal: but it is a KDE4 app | 23:07 |
| nixternal | kde3 app | 23:07 |
| mhb | hmm, I don't get it | 23:07 |
| mhb | so "Kontact in KDE4" you reffered to was actually "KDE3 Kontact run in a KDE4 session" | 23:08 |
| nixternal | yup | 23:09 |
| nixternal | I had kdepim4 working before the 4.0.0 release, but it was nothing more than a duplicate of kde3pim | 23:09 |
| xRaich[o]2x | apachelogger: do you have jabber? | 23:12 |
| xRaich[o]2x | i have the screenie | 23:13 |
| xRaich[o]2x | and with german locals i can't start krunner using alt+f2 | 23:13 |
| xRaich[o]2x | simply doesn't show up | 23:14 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 23:14 |
| apachelogger | xRaich[o]2x: can I see the screeny? | 23:14 |
| wolfger | Hey you guys.... Happy K Day! Thanks for all the work you've done. KDE4 rocks! | 23:14 |
| apachelogger | Happy KDE 4 Day | 23:14 |
| xRaich[o]2x | apachelogger: sure gimme your jabber or whatever so i can send it. i have no webspace or whatsoever | 23:14 |
| apachelogger | -.- | 23:14 |
| apachelogger | xRaich[o]2x: use an image hosting service | 23:15 |
| apachelogger | my kopete4 has no transport stuff setup | 23:15 |
| apachelogger | so I can't recieve anything | 23:15 |
| xRaich[o]2x | narf | 23:15 |
| xRaich[o]2x | any suggestions? | 23:15 |
| apachelogger | xRaich[o]2x: google will know :P | 23:15 |
| xRaich[o]2x | a wait i could upload it to my obsolete myspace account. should work | 23:16 |
| xRaich[o]2x | apachelogger: http://a844.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/44/l_64ed2845dc16fa5406ef233b1a77c6d3.png | 23:18 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 23:19 |
| xRaich[o]2x | does it work` | 23:19 |
| apachelogger | xRaich[o]2x: and it does work when you run it in english? | 23:19 |
| xRaich[o]2x | ? | 23:19 |
| xRaich[o]2x | yep | 23:19 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 23:19 |
| xRaich[o]2x | don't ask me... i know it's weird | 23:19 |
| apachelogger | need to try | 23:20 |
| * apachelogger puts it on his list | 23:20 | |
| xRaich[o]2x | save your config before you do it | 23:20 |
| xRaich[o]2x | the problem stays after removing the locals | 23:20 |
| apachelogger | ohhhhh | 23:21 |
| apachelogger | well | 23:21 |
| apachelogger | we will see :P | 23:21 |
| xRaich[o]2x | good luck ;) | 23:21 |
| apachelogger | thx | 23:21 |
| xRaich[o]2x | i heard that a lot of people don't have that problem. so i guess i'm the lucky one where everything goes horribly wrong ^^ | 23:22 |
| * apachelogger agrees on that :P | 23:24 | |
| xRaich[o]2x | so it works on your system? | 23:24 |
| xRaich[o]2x | did you add the language in systemsettings or did you just install the package? | 23:25 |
| apachelogger | xRaich[o]2x: nah, didn't try yet | 23:25 |
| xRaich[o]2x | ah ok | 23:26 |
| xRaich[o]2x | i'm just curious ^^ | 23:26 |
| xRaich[o]2x | just for the protocol. i installed the package, told systemsettings to use it logged you, logged in again and voila | 23:27 |
| xRaich[o]2x | s/you/out | 23:27 |
| xRaich[o]2x | after logging out i had to restart the x server because my drivers seems to have some flaws | 23:28 |
| xRaich[o]2x | but i don't really think those 2 problems have anything to do with each other | 23:29 |
| nosredna_ekim | oh wow... the Kwin effects got way smoother | 23:33 |
| santiago-ve | guys... i gotta say it... you have done a GREAT work with kde4 | 23:35 |
| xRaich[o]2x | they really did. and they did it fast :) | 23:37 |
| santiago-ve | im starting my jorney to help them to do such things :D... | 23:37 |
| * santiago-ve has a goa: Be a Kubuntu MoTu | 23:38 | |
| santiago-ve | :p | 23:38 |
| === gryc__ is now known as gryc | ||
| nosredna_ekim | or in our case... MoTppa ;) | 23:39 |
| nosredna_ekim | s/our/stdin | 23:39 |
| santiago-ve | MoTppa? | 23:40 |
| xRaich[o]2x | master of the personal package archive ;) | 23:40 |
| santiago-ve | Oh! | 23:40 |
| nosredna_ekim | XD | 23:41 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
