[00:01] Vorian: I don't see it here yet https://launchpad.net/~vorian/+archive [00:05] CMake Error: Blitz_DIR is not set. It must be set to the directory containing BlitzConfig.cmake in order to use Blitz. [00:05] bah! [00:05] Riddell: it's comming [00:06] wth is BlitzConfig.cmake? [00:06] nixternal: good luck trying to find it [00:07] nixternal: http://www.nabble.com/Build-problems-and-solutions-to12359280.html [00:10] Riddell: wasn't kdepim-kde4 released with 4.0.0 ? [00:10] argh, when did apt-file stop working :( [00:10] stdin: no, not ready [00:10] stdin: also no quanta or kdevelop [00:11] ahh, then the meta-kde4 package should remove reference to kdepim-kde4 [00:11] stdin: true true [00:12] Riddell: I'm working on -3 anyway, updating the versions required, I'll show it to you when I think it's done :) [00:14] stdin: I may well be asleep in which case just upload to the ppa [00:14] Riddell: sure, but it should be done in a couple mins anyway [00:14] Riddell: ktorrent is in pending status atm [00:17] re [00:17] hrmm installing kde-l10n-de makes kde4 act really weird [00:17] danimo: can't sleep for the excitement either? [00:17] krunner does not start anymore [00:17] and kopete doesn't allow me to add ne accounts to my identity [00:18] Riddell: nah, rather trying to find very last showstoppers in the kubuntu packages [00:19] wooooooo [00:19] KDE 4.0.80 <3 [00:19] xRaich[o]2x: yeah, adding jabber accounts makes kopete crash :( [00:19] ? [00:19] murrrr [00:19] danimo: nope not when i'm using the english locals [00:19] works fine [00:19] but [00:20] forgot to try Kopete [00:20] Riddell: http://www.stdin.me.uk/meta-kde4/ [00:20] when i'm using the german locals and want to add new accounts there are none [00:20] no jabber, no icq, no what so ever [00:21] i hit add account and get an empty list where the protocols should show up [00:21] and pressing alt+f2 won't make the krunner widget appear [00:21] I just get a crash upon connect [00:21] works fine with english locals though [00:22] not here [00:22] weird [00:22] i did tried it for a number of times [00:23] try [00:23] without it worked fine with german locals it went bonkers [00:24] i even removed all .kde* files [00:25] stdin: looks great, I'll upload to ubuntu and you can upload to the ppa [00:25] * nixternal kicks ligature [00:26] ok, sounds like a plan :) [00:26] Vorian: your ktorrent is a native packages, there's no .orig file [00:29] Vorian: spose I can just make one [00:31] Riddell: I am seeing a problem here...I will check ktown for an updated package, but the package we have for ligature isn't the same that is in KDE SVN [00:31] nixternal: ask toma [00:32] anybody working on amarok 2 packages? [00:32] yuriy: I don't think they want us to, apachelogger will do it when appropriate I suspect [00:32] oh ok [00:33] I doubt they want the same treatment as kde4 got with it's alpha/RC releases, they want people to see something mostly stable [00:34] yuriy: we will have a techpreview soonish [00:34] I think apachelogger will package that [00:34] stdin: true - but we need to get something out there and then we switch to qt 4.4 [00:35] Nightrose: good news :D [00:35] ;-) [00:35] told you i can't wait for the release ;) [00:35] release? [00:35] preview [00:35] whatever ^^ [00:35] is that equiv to svn commit? [00:37] Nightrose: any idea when this will happen? [00:37] yea but I am not sure if I am supposed to tell [00:37] Vorian: ok, uploaded, many thanks [00:37] no problem [00:37] Riddell: sorry about the orig.tar.gz [00:38] i don't know why it didn't upload [00:38] Nightrose: ah ok i don't want to ruin the surprise ^^ [00:38] nixternal: I'll keep hammering away at kpov [00:38] xRaich[o]2x: hehe well - it really is apachelogger´s thing to do [00:39] cd [00:39] pfft [00:39] Riddell: nah, my mistake on that....BlitzConfig.cmake is no longer in kdelibs, but ligature is looking for it...how do I get it to look for FindBlitz.cmake instead? [00:39] nixternal: cmake is a mystery to me, try #kde4-devel [00:39] k [00:40] nixternal: or is it fixed in svn? [00:40] back to hacking life and kwin -> [00:40] Nightrose: ok then i'll try to be patient ^^ [00:40] no it isn't in SVN [00:40] what I have is the same === uga is now known as uga|away [00:53] oi [00:54] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51515/ [00:54] that's kpovmodeler [00:55] Vorian: "error: freetype/config/ftheader.h: No such file or directory" [00:55] looks like that file is missing [00:55] yeah [00:56] hmmm [00:56] Vorian: packages.ubuntu.com may be able to find it [01:09] hmm kdesu in kde4 want's roots password :p oh well [01:11] hmm, there's probably a compile option for that [01:13] hmm [01:13] i bet it's ftgl-dev [01:14] Vorian: try libfreetype6-dev [01:14] i already had that one [01:14] it maybe needs a pointer to usr/include/freetype2/ somehow then [01:15] hmmm === gnomefre2k is now known as gnomefreak [01:21] * stdin wonders when gnomefreak will identify ;) [01:21] happy :) [01:22] there much better [01:22] no you can kick people quicker and with more fury :D [01:30] * stdin gives Hobbsee a belated "Pong" [01:30] heya! [01:38] well, I think we're ready for 4.0 [01:38] time for some sleep before the announce [01:39] :) [01:39] Riddell: I messed up the Depends line of kde4-devel a bit, here's the fix http://www.stdin.me.uk/diffs/meta-kde4_3.1.debdiff [01:39] stdin: ok [01:39] in meta-kde that is [01:40] heh [01:40] missing commas, I wish that lintain doesn't pick that up [01:40] Riddell: got your CD done? [01:40] s/doesn't/did/ [01:40] Hobbsee: testers welcome http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/gutsy/kde4/ [01:40] woot :) [01:40] Riddell: how's the hardy packages? [01:41] I got 4.0.0 running here on hardy now, on display :1 :D [01:41] * Hobbsee wonders if you still have to mangle with kdm, etc [01:42] I started it from kdm [01:42] just installed and switched user, then logged in [01:43] Hobbsee: I've not tried kdm and some of the app icons are broken but otherwise they work decently [01:43] * Hobbsee nods [01:43] stdin: ah right, so kdm (or gdm) picks that up now? neat. [01:43] yeah, the package installs the /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop file [01:44] woot :) [01:44] has done since RC2 :) [01:46] Binary: kde-devel, kde, kde-amusements, kde-core [01:46] i want ammusements and core, i take it? [01:47] that's kde 3 [01:47] kde4-core [01:48] * Riddell snoozes [01:48] oh diggidy dang, guess what kde4-* depends on: kde-core [01:48] * Riddell unsnoozes [01:48] how come no one (including me) spotted that? :p [01:49] ok, it was just kde4-amusements, not so bad then [01:49] test before upload? bah humbug [01:50] * Riddell uploads fix && snoozes [01:51] ooh, Vorian found a bug in libfreetype [01:51] Hobbsee: if you don't want kde-core installed, you can grab kde4-core kdeedu-kde4 kdegames-kde4 and kdetoys-kde4 (that's what kde4-amusements will get) [01:52] /usr/include/ft2build.h has #include when it should be #include [01:52] stdin: right [01:53] stdin: so i can basically pick my metapackages like kde3, and get a full system? [01:53] holy smokes, I can do a full update and nothing wants to uninstall today...now that is love! [01:54] Hobbsee: that's the plan yeah, if you wanted all of it you could do "sudo apt-get install kde4" :) [02:02] mooh [02:02] stdin: I just do "cmakekdeall" :( [02:02] you don't have to compile with apt :) [02:03] stdin: but then it's not current trunk [02:03] current trunk is 4.1 isn't it? [02:04] well 4.0.80 atm [02:04] more or less [02:04] stdin: logout dialog is <3 [02:04] is it different from 4.0.0? [02:04] IIRC yes [02:05] well atleast it's different from week or two back === rdieter is now known as rdieter_afk [03:47] evening [03:47] morning :) [03:47] noon [03:47] hello stdin [03:50] hello Jucato [03:51] I think we finally got #kubuntu under control now :) [03:51] hah stick around for the official release... you're gonna be swamped :P [03:51] * Jucato won't be here [03:52] enjoy :D [03:52] I may have another 11hour nap by then :p [03:53] official release is at what time utc? [03:54] no one knows, or at least I haven't seen a time mentioned [03:54] lunch... [03:54] jjesse: I heard the release will be between 00:00 and 23:59 on Jan 11, 2007 [03:55] nice :) [03:55] no timezone indicated :) [03:55] no, between 00:00:00.00 and 23:59:59.99 [03:55] aaah sorry [03:55] my sources were lacking [03:55] smart a$$ [03:56] gotta keep you ear to the ground, finger on the pulse and eat off the grape vine :) [03:56] :) [03:56] heading to bed i'm tired [03:56] whose pulse? [03:56] while i dowwnload the updates [03:56] :P [03:56] later [03:56] night [03:57] the pulse of the kde devs, don't want them to die on us :p [03:57] night jjesse [04:26] * genii sips a coffee [04:26] I can't say I'm crazy about this vista-like kmenu navigation [04:27] there is another menu available, like the old one [04:27] stdin: Find it in themes or so? [04:27] it's a applet, so just add it to the panel and remove the old one [04:29] stdin: OK, thanks [04:33] stdin: Crap. How to dock it? [04:34] remove it from the desktop, then just drag it from the widget chooser to the panel [04:34] should popup by the other menu [04:35] stdin: Heh. Thanks. [04:35] I don't like the new menu much either, so that's one of the 1st things I did :) [04:36] Otherwise the standard theme/layout is nice [04:39] BOOYAH@!#)@*)*#@)!)* [04:39] Vorian: fixed ligature! [04:39] ^5 nixternal [04:39] what was it? [04:39] Bah. The context overlay thing doesn't move with the icon it's originally attached to when you align vertical or horizontal [04:39] their CMakeList.txt file was missing KDE4 REQUIRED [04:40] * nixternal fixes and uploads to KDE svn [04:40] that's it? [04:40] yup [04:40] you are awesome [04:40] I can't believe I didn't catch that [04:41] wow, kde 4.0.0 only took 107 uploads and 31 FTBFS :) not bad [04:41] nice [04:41] :) [04:42] gotta make sure we don't have any svn freezes going on [04:43] so nixternal, it would be: find_package(KDE4 REQUIRED) before blitz required? [04:43] yes [04:44] it is missing other things as well which I am fixing in svn [04:44] nice find :) [04:44] the only file in the source directory, who would have thought? :) [04:45] my god, how big is freakin' keg [04:45] I feel like I am checking out kdebase [04:45] a full size one? [04:45] ya [04:45] like 50 gal [04:45] I thought I already had it, guess I didn't [04:45] hahaha [04:45] or something close to it [04:45] you ass [04:45] :) [04:45] not that keg [04:45] KDE Extrage Gear == keg [04:46] ROFL!!!! [04:46] hahaha [04:46] you had me for a second [04:46] :) [04:46] how many extragear packages are left? [04:46] are you done with yours? [04:47] just kpov and lig [04:47] freetype bug [04:47] ah, too bad [04:47] ahhh, damn I think I just ran into that as a matter of fact with ligature [04:47] uh oh [04:49] OK, ligature is fixed in KDE SVN now [04:50] * Vorian sleeps [04:50] night :) [04:55] * genii considers asking a support question of stdin [04:56] fine, but ask nixternal if it's about vista :p [04:56] heh, deal [04:56] I'll need a bulletproof vest first though [05:04] * nixternal breaks out the canon [05:05] I guess I won't ask that burning question of how do you make ubuntu load from vista's bootloader instead of vice-a-versa then .... [05:08] ahh, there is actually a howto on the wiki :) [05:18] Bah. Did compiz --replace and had to go to terminal to kill it enough to be able to logout [05:19] Must not take my ccsm settings from 3.5.8 [05:24] nixternal: Found that wiki page btw, thanks [05:42] Heh some guy in #ubuntu dissing kde4 [05:42] oops #ubuntu-offtopic [05:44] let him. he'll find sympathizers there... [05:44] or maybe angry ops. [05:44] either way, if he ever comes our way.... WHAM! [05:44] * genii hides the baseball bat [05:45] I have other blunt objects :) [05:45] :) [05:46] * ScottK isn't particularly excited about KDE4. It doesn't include the one KDE app that is most important to me for my use. [05:46] which is? [05:47] s/KDE4/KDE 4.0/ [05:47] :D [05:47] Jucato: Kontact (kdepim) [05:48] Also, since I use my Kubuntu boxes for $WORK, stability is more important than the latest kewl features. [05:48] But I'm also old and grumpy, so what do I know. [05:48] ah yes... definitely not for KDE 4.0.. maybe not even 4.1 [05:50] So I'll just keep on with KDE 3.5 for a while and eventually will make the switch. [05:50] In the meantime, I hope it gets a reasonable level of bug fixing. [05:51] * Jucato nods [05:51] you're not being old and grumpy. just being sensible and stable :) [05:52] Good night all. [05:52] 'night! :) [05:55] no, ScottK is being old and grumpy ;p [05:55] just like ligature is right now [06:00] ligature is just plain being a PITA :) [06:01] Riddell: can you please nuke the older dragonplayer? https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=dragonplayer [06:01] * apachelogger_ is on his way to school [06:04] ligature I don't think should have ever been tagged, unless of course I am missing the obvious [06:05] when someone can tell me why HAS_WCHAR, HAS_GNUG_PRAGMAS is an issue, then maybe I can do something [06:05] um... I thought extragear wasn't included in the scope of the regular release schedules? [06:05] (I mean that's why they're in extragear, right?) [06:06] "NEED_GNUG_PRAGMAS [06:06] wth is that [06:06] not everything in extragear was tagged though [06:07] I didn't know anything in extragear was tagged (maybe plasma only?) [06:08] I wish I knew where NEED_GNUG_PRAGMAS was defined [06:09] libdjvu [06:10] you would think so, but it isn't [06:11] hrmm [06:11] actually ligature has djvu in the damn plugins already [06:11] Weird. are you getting something like /djvu/libdjvu/Arrays.cpp:58:21: error: config.h: No such file or directory [06:13] nope [06:13] hmm [06:13] In file included from /tmp/buildd/ligature-kde4-4.0.0/plugins/djvu/libdjvu/Arrays.cpp:64: [06:13] /tmp/buildd/ligature-kde4-4.0.0/plugins/djvu/libdjvu/Arrays.h:62:5: warning: "NEED_GNUG_PRAGMAS" is not defined [06:13] a bunch of those [06:14] once again, I think you can chalk this up to bogus ass CMakeList.txt files [06:15] wtf, instead of building ligature against libdjvulibre-dev, he includes it in the damn package [06:16] hm.. quite amusing, our only new feature for alpha 3 is kde4 :) [06:17] oh nixternal, did you write about Tonio's new kio-apt features already? [06:17] * nixternal #'s out djvu from CMakeLists.txt and tries again [06:18] I didn't write any of the release notes this go round [06:18] I think yuriy did [06:18] ah :) [06:18] I'll poke him instead then [06:18] good for you. you needed a break :) [06:18] ya, first one in 2 years :) [06:18] woohoo! [06:21] * genii thinks about the mushroom principle [06:22] eg: lock programmers in dark room, feed them manure and hope something fruitful comes [06:23] w00t, just comment out that crappy djvu garbage from CMakeList.txt and it builds past that plugin garbage [06:23] now I need to fix up fax with some tweaked out cmake includes and on to the next breakage [06:33] * genii puts a pot of coffee on for nixternal [06:35] thanks! gonna need it [06:35] Anytime [06:41] * genii sneaks a peek at http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/extragear/graphics/ligature/CMakeLists.txt === _czessi is now known as Czessi [07:07] i'm seeing a really annoying issue: at times, konqueror-kde4 simply wont load sites while firefox does so without any issues? [07:12] buz: running v4.0.0 or older? [07:13] stdin: btw, did you see my comment about kpackage-kde4 requiring smartpm-core? [07:13] Jucato: nope [07:13] genii: error: config.h: No such file or directory <-- what is the fix for that? I cannot remember how I did it before for the life of me [07:13] stdin: ok now I'm telling you :) [07:14] nixternal: [01:15:35] wtf, instead of building ligature against libdjvulibre-dev, he includes it in the damn package [07:14] Jucato: can you file a bug report, pretty please :) [07:14] nixternal: 4.0.0 [07:15] mhh that just was the first composite crash [07:15] Jucato: just so I don't forget to tell Riddell and it is a packaging issue so reporting a bug is fine in that case [07:16] nixternal: Maybe theres a reason that .krazy contains: SKIP /plugins/ps/\|/plugins/dvi/\|/plugins/djvu/ [07:16] hrmm [07:16] forgot about that damn .krazy [07:16] stupid hidden files :p [07:17] stdin: wokei [07:39] yuriy: Nightrose: I'm not yet sure whether we should package amarok2 tp 1 [07:54] can someone check if web shortcuts work for them in kde4? i always end up searching google, no matter what shortcut i try [08:13] Jucato: made a bug report on kpackage-kde4 yet? [08:16] bug 181950 [08:16] Launchpad bug 181950 in kdeadmin-kde4 "KPackage4 requires smartpm-core in order to run" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181950 [08:18] Riddell: ligature is a mess...if you want to take a look at it feel free...I have uploaded to svn the CMakeList.txt fixes [08:18] I am going to crash, see you all on the otherside of KDE 4 :) [08:19] nixternal: I see what you mean about some extragear being tagged. given your problems, I'm also surprised ligature made it... :/ [08:19] g'night nixternal [08:33] Riddell: things are going okay so far :) [08:36] Riddell: did the Kde4 team run out of ideas for icons? In games nearly all of them seem to have pictures of cards. ie arcade/board games/games for kids etc [08:46] Why does clicking on restart bring up a dialogue saying shutdown/restart etc? [08:52] couldn't find service khelpcenter was an error I received trying to access the manual for KspaceDuel Kde 4 [08:53] is khelpcenter-kde4 installed? [08:54] I'll check in a sec [08:54] I think it's a recommend of something, but not a dep [08:57] stdin: I would check via the package manager but it says "Kpackage requires the SMART Package Manager to be installed in order to function" [08:58] bug 18195 [08:58] Launchpad bug 18195 in netcfg "dhcp search can't be avoided during installation" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18195 [08:58] erm, bug 181950 [08:58] Launchpad bug 181950 in kdeadmin-kde4 "KPackage4 requires smartpm-core in order to run" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181950 [08:59] thankies [08:59] stdin: Not a kde user just a tester. It helps sometime to not know what your doing in order to find bugs :) [09:00] davmor2: the bug topic includes the fix though "KPackage4 requires smartpm-core in order to run", so just install smartpm-core via apt-get [09:03] should the install icon still be available on an installed system? [09:03] install icon on the desktop? no [09:03] probably not, no [09:05] Jucato: stdin: No this is in the menu above package manager [09:05] hm? [09:05] afaik, the installer shouldn't be installed [09:07] I've install smartpm-core. I'v started package manager, I've typed in the password and the window for my password pops back up [09:08] it asks for the root pass I think, try using "kdesudo kpackage" from krunner [09:09] it worked for me last night, so I'm sure only smartpm-core was needed :/ === \sh_away is now known as \sh [09:11] kdesudo command not found I think I've located the error :) [09:12] kdesudo is from kde3, doh! [09:12] erm, set a root password? [09:12] * stdin cringes [09:13] or just install the kdesudo package [09:13] that's probably better right now [09:13] Jucato: do you have a root password? Or did you type in your user pass [09:13] I actually launched it from a KDE 3 session :) [09:13] so it used kdesu [09:14] kdesu = kdesudo [09:14] oh wait... [09:14] I can't recall if it asked me the password or if I ran it in read only mode (Kpackage's default if you just run it) [09:15] stdin: only if kdesudo is installed. otherwise it reverts to plain kdesu :) [09:16] yeah, but kdesudo is installed by default in our kde3 [09:16] so can he run kdesudo from a KDE 4 session? [09:17] <\sh> moins [09:17] yeah, kdesudo only exists in one place in the $PATH, so it'll run the kde3 version [09:18] what's the problem with kde4's kdesu then? [09:19] I think I may of found the issue I just tried to access users in order to make sure I was set up as admin. It would accept my password and that was kdesu at work. I've just rebooted and am going to check again [09:19] s/would/wouldn't [09:21] Jucato: asks for root pass [09:21] yes definite problem. I just tried User Manager again and kdesu is saying that my password is wrong but I just logged in with it :) [09:22] if you look it asks for "root" password, so there's the problem :p === hunger_t_ is now known as hunger [09:22] how can I check via command line as to what groups I'm in [09:22] stdin: then using kdesudo will work around that right? maybe we can symlink kdesudo to kde4's kdesu like we do in kde3's kdesu [09:22] davmor2: "id" [09:23] davmor2: "groups" [09:23] both :) [09:23] id shows groupid too though... :( [09:23] stdin: so the bug is kdesu4 doesn't/can't use sudo and only su? [09:24] it's not configured to do so, it's probably come cmake option [09:24] not 100% sure if we'll need to patch the code or just reconfigure it [09:25] I see...but in any case, wouldn't it still be advisable to use kdesudo as well? unless kdesu4 works more properly than kdesu (3) [09:25] hey guys if you go to User Manager it is kdesu asking for password and it is saying that I got it wrong [09:25] hi all === mak3_ is now known as mak3 [09:26] Jucato: probably yes, we need a kde4 port really [09:26] should the id number make any difference as long ass the admin group is listed? [09:26] davmor2: yeah, because it's actually looking for the root's password.. which doesn't exist [09:26] i use kdesudo for the kde4 password problem [09:26] Is kdevelop already available for kde4? [09:26] Jucato: Kdesu is [09:27] hunger: no, not yet [09:27] yes your right it does ask for roots password :) [09:27] hunger: I thought kdev has a different release cycle? [09:27] Jucato: Dunno. That is why I am asking. [09:28] oh ok.. then most probably no [09:28] I have a build of kdevelop from kde/trunk and that is mostly unuseable. I just wanted to make sure that I did not break something locally;-) [09:29]