[11:50] <nysosym> hi there
[11:50] <nysosym> kwwii: congrats for KDE 4.0 :)
[12:11] <kwwii> nysosym: thanks, I had some help though
[12:11] <nysosym> sure, i know :)
[12:12] <nysosym> i also like the new color palette for hardy :)
[12:12] <kwwii> cool
[12:12] <andreasn> kwwii: congrats on the release!
[12:13] <kwwii> andreasn: thanks, good to know that I can do something else for a while now
[12:13] <andreasn> like 4.1 ;)
[12:13] <kwwii> hehe
[12:21]  * Tm_T is shaking
[12:50] <_MMA_> kwwii: TheMuso cleaned up example-look to match the changes he did in ubuntustudio-look. Should make it easier to use as a base now. Check it out. bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/example-look/dev
[15:25] <Cimi> kwwii, news from yesterday's meeting I might notice for the murrine development?
[15:26] <_MMA_> I didnt see that but I did mention you.
[15:27] <Cimi> just to notice how the development will take place
[15:28] <kwwii> _MMA_: cool, I will check that out in a bit
[15:28] <kwwii> Cimi: pretty much we talked about how hardy will have smaller changes and the big changes will be made first in hardy+1
[15:28] <kwwii> hardy being the last of the LTS cycle and only 4 months away
[15:29] <Cimi> yes
[15:29] <Cimi> so no new theme?
[15:29] <_MMA_> Not for Hardy.
[15:29] <Cimi> oh cool
[15:29] <_MMA_> Cimi: So will you know release a new Murrine update?
[15:29] <_MMA_> s/know/now
[15:30] <kwwii> hardy is supported for a long time and supposed to be the most solid of the line before we screw everything up again and start fresh
[15:30] <Cimi> I have more time now to convert the world from ubuntu to murrine ;)
[15:30] <kwwii> :-)
[15:31]  * _MMA_ downloads 30MB worth of build-deps to build some art packages. :D
[15:32] <_MMA_> (20 just for a iconset) :P
[16:42] <thorwil> hey nand
[17:05] <_MMA_> kwwii: No artwork deadlines here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule
[17:07] <_MMA_> kwwii: Want me to approximate the ones from Gutsy? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
[17:23] <kwwii> erm, they were there and now they are gone
[17:23] <kwwii> freaky
[17:23] <kwwii> yeah, we should go with pretty much the same ones from gutsy
[17:25] <_MMA_> Ok. Ill do it.
[17:27] <nand> hey thorwil
[17:30] <_MMA_> kwwii: How's that?
[17:32] <thorwil> nand: would you be ok with an svg with the text and region rectangles in layers? you could check font sizes, check size and coords of the rects and export a template after hiding layers with one file
[17:34] <nand> thorwil: If it is feasible for a inkscape noob, no problem :)
[17:34] <nand> s/for/by/
[17:34] <thorwil> nand: heh, sure. plus you have your helpdesk right here ;)
[17:34] <nand> :)
[17:41] <nand> thorwil: just saw your annoying bugs mockups. I like both D & E! What is your personal preference?
[17:42] <thorwil> nand: D
[17:43] <thorwil> for reference ;) http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2008/01/11/ubuntu-most-annoying-bugs/
[17:44] <nand> thorwil: If D, then IMO a very small margin between the logo and the borders would make it nicer.
[17:44] <nand> like the others samples
[17:46] <thorwil> will try that later on
[17:46] <nand> otherwise, it's perfect
[17:46] <nand> ok
[17:46] <thorwil> heh, thanks!
[17:50] <thorwil> nand: you got mail
[17:51] <nand> thorwil: in the inbox! thanks. I'll host and post as usual?
[17:52] <thorwil> nand: i don't think anyone wants to touch them. they're meant as base for generated text
[17:52] <nand> ok
[17:57] <thorwil> nand: oh, to work with these files, you need the layers dialog (shift+ctrl+L)
[18:00] <nand> thorwil: hehe yes, I was looking for them.
[18:00] <nand> ok it looks straighforward
[18:01] <thorwil> nand: good, as your support goes to eat something ;)
[18:02] <nand> thorwil: ;) I shall too. Thanks again for your work!
[18:40] <kwwii> _MMA_: looks good, thanks man
[18:41] <_MMA_> np
[21:15] <thorwil> nand: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2008/01/11/ubuntu-most-annoying-bugs-2/
[21:19] <nand> thorwil: perfect! Concerning font sizes, GD offers a pretty nice API, I think I could handle that. I'll see that soon
[21:19] <thorwil> nand: cool. i'll prepare another template file, then
[21:19] <nand> thx
[21:36] <thorwil> nand: note that with bugs 2, indexed PNG with 128 colours beats JPG
[21:37] <thorwil> haven't tried a smaller index, actually
[21:40] <nand> thorwil: by beating, you mean an higher file size?
[21:40] <thorwil> nand: smaller files with indexed png. sharper at the same time
[21:41] <thorwil> it tends to lead to problems with the anti-aliasing, but i saw none in this case
[21:42] <nand> ok. So I understand png is the better option here
[21:52] <thorwil> yes, good night :)
[22:48] <troy_s> http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/01/11/apple_hoists_theres_something_in_the_air_macworld_banners.html
[22:48] <troy_s> New typesetting.  Very interesting.
[22:48] <troy_s> That is a massive shift.