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Dr_willislime4x4,  last i looked at sirus radio web site - i couldent even get it to work with linux.00:15
TazgodXsooooo, anyone actually able to get mythstreamtv to work on mythbuntu?00:18
TazgodXis there a way to d/l videos on my mythbox over mythweb to a networked PC?00:22
rhpot1991TazgodX: I have seen words about setting it up to play in vnc with that menthod, so I would imagine if you setup the directory access correctly you could just right click and save as00:31
rhpot1991you could just set up a samba or nfs share too00:32
blkorpheuswhere can I get a good mkiconmap.pl?00:34
blkorpheuscan someone pastebin theirs for me?00:35
rhpot1991/usr/share/doc/mythtv-backend/contrib00:35
_andrewTazgodX: I can send you a small Perl script you can set up to download the files from a web server, although it's not pretty and there's some assembly required.00:36
blkorpheushttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65962300:36
rhpot1991he could just set up apache to host out his recordings folder00:38
rhpot1991easy enough to do, but the names of the files would drive me crazy00:38
_andrewYeah, the Perl script grabs the names out of the database :)00:38
rhpot1991blkorpheus: I think that mkikons.pl doesn't work00:39
rhpot1991or didn't last I tried it00:39
rhpot1991kept saying zip code was invalid00:39
blkorpheusI'm on the hunt for a good one00:39
blkorpheusthink maybe in the myth source00:40
TazgodX_andrew is it easy?00:40
_andrewDepends - how good are you at configuring Apache?00:41
TazgodXwell...i can follow directions... :)00:41
_andrewThen it depends on how good am I at describing this stuff on IRC...00:41
TazgodXsooo, shall we get started? :)00:42
rhpot1991blkorpheus: actually it seems to be working better00:42
blkorpheuswhat do you mean?00:44
blkorpheusis the file empty?00:45
rhpot1991actually00:45
blkorpheusdoes it ask for your zipcode?00:45
rhpot1991did the same thing that the forum post says00:45
blkorpheuscan you pastebin the contents for me please?00:45
_andrewTazgodX, I was gonna do this privately, to keep the noise out of the channel.00:45
rhpot1991contents of what?00:45
blkorpheuswhere can I get a good mkiconmap.pl?00:45
rhpot1991it used to hang on the zip, but its getting past that atleast00:45
rhpot1991scroll up, I told you were it is at on your system00:46
blkorpheusmy file is blank00:46
rhpot1991its prob in a .gz file00:46
blkorpheusso again, could you pastebin the contents for that file so I can use it?00:46
rhpot1991that you need to extract00:46
blkorpheusI've done that, thats how I know its blank00:46
blkorpheuscould you do that for me?00:46
_andrewTazgodX: I dunno if you can see me PMing you, but you've got some time to look while I clean up the script :)00:48
TazgodXill eat really fast then :)00:49
_andrewLet me know when you get back.00:49
rhpot1991prob wont help you much though, as it doesn't seem to be working00:53
rhpot1991go search around on the mailing list about the master icons file00:53
rhpot1991I think thats the latest and greatest way to do the icons00:53
Dr_williswell i got my MythTV box going again.. and was bout to  sign up for schedulesdirect. and the wife decided we dont need cable tv.. :()00:59
blkorpheusMkiconmap is deprecated, it's now done with master_iconmap01:16
TazgodX_andrew, im back....just don't know for how long :) should be a while tho01:16
blkorpheushttp://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Channel_icons01:16
_andrewTazgodX: alright, let's have a go...01:17
blkorpheusthats why mkiconmap does nt work01:17
blkorpheusERROR:No icons were found.  Please check 'na_icon_error.html'01:17
_andrewThe file I'm sending you, put it in /usr/lib/cgi/bin01:17
_andrew(`sudo mv recorded-mythtv.pl /usr/lib/cgi-bin` in the console)01:18
TazgodXi not on my mythbuntu box....but we can attmept01:18
TazgodXi can putty in01:18
_andrewYeah, that should be alright.01:18
_andrewAnyway, accept the file, and you can paste it over or something.01:19
TazgodXyeah, i have auto accept on...01:19
TazgodXshoot01:19
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_andrewDon't tell me - I have to go work out how to use pastebin?01:20
TazgodXhaha can't send?01:20
_andrewApparently not.01:20
TazgodXi wasn't recognized, i just authed with nickserv01:21
TazgodXtry now01:21
_andrewNah, it's okay - just do `sudo wget http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=d3278f227 -O /usr/lib/cgi-bin/recorded-mythtv.pl` on your Linux box.01:22
TazgodXthats actually better for me :)01:23
_andrewI suspected as much.01:23
TazgodXok01:24
_andrewNext, `sudo chmod 555 /usr/lib/cgi-bin/recorded-mythtv.pl`.01:24
_andrewWhich distro are you using?01:24
_andrewOr to be more precise, do you have a /etc/httpd/ or a /etc/apache/ directory?01:24
TazgodX7.10 mythbuntu01:24
_andrewGood.01:24
_andrew`echo ScriptAlias /recordings /usr/lib/cgi-bin/recorded-mythtv.pl | sudo dd of="/etc/apache2/conf.d/recorded-mythtv"`01:25
_andrew`sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload`01:25
_andrewOh, and then the bit that's a security risk...01:25
_andrew`chmod 644 /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt`01:26
TazgodXhad to sudo that last one01:26
_andrewIt's probably safe to do that if this is your personal machine, but not if anyone else has access to it.01:26
_andrewYeah.01:26
_andrewAnyway, if you promise not to come after me when you get hacked, I think we're done.01:27
TazgodXlol01:27
_andrewYou should now be able to go to http://<your-machine>/recordings/01:27
TazgodXwho would want to hack a mythtv box?01:27
_andrewPirates!01:27
TazgodXand, i can d/l anything in recordings now? what about if i put something in my videos folder? pull that too?01:28
_andrewEr, I don't think so.01:28
_andrewI don't have anything in my videos folder, so I didn't bother doing that.01:28
_andrewIf you want to do that, you could make it your first programming project.  Shouldn't be too hard.01:29
TazgodXi get an error goign to recordings dir01:29
TazgodXThe server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.01:29
_andrew:s01:29
_andrewYeah, that was a bit too easy I guess.01:30
TazgodXlol01:30
_andrewSo what happens if you run `/usr/lib/cgi-bin/recorded-mythtv.pl` on the command line?01:30
TazgodX-bash: /usr/lib/cgi-bin/recorded-mythtv.pl: /usr/bin/perl^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory01:31
_andrew:s01:31
_andrew<waves fist at pastebin>01:31
_andrewI'll have a look...01:32
_andrewRight...01:34
_andrewwget http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=d3278f227 -O - | sed 's/.$//' | sudo dd of="/usr/lib/cgi-bin/recorded-mythtv.pl"`01:35
_andrewThen, `sudo chmod 555 /usr/lib/cgi-bin/recorded-mythtv.pl`.01:35
TazgodXok01:37
TazgodXlooks like it works01:37
TazgodX:)01:37
TazgodXthanks01:37
_andrew:)01:37
_andrewNo problem.01:37
TazgodXhow hard would it be to convert this for a http://<my machine>/videos for the videos folder? :)01:38
_andrewI don't know - it depends what information MythTV itself has about videos in there.01:39
_andrewIf there's not much information, you might be better off just doing `sudo ln -s <my-mythvideo-directory> /var/www/videos`.01:40
_andrewWhich is even cheaper and nastier than my script, but should work.01:41
TazgodXlol01:41
jessehello02:42
toorimaanyone knows what lineup to pick when downloading channel icons, I allready have icons for SD but I get some HD channels for free over the air and dont know what lineup that would be02:43
jessei was wondering if someone could help me.. i cannot seem to get my audio to work correctly on my DVICO fusionHDTV302:43
jessesomeone please help me lol02:43
jesseam i going to need a different card?02:43
jessetoorima cant you use EIT to pick up that information?02:46
toorimapick up the icons?02:47
jesseoh hmm02:48
jesseI dunno man02:48
jessei'm new to the world02:48
jessewhat tv tuner card are you using toorima02:48
toorimai use schedulesdirect for my program info, just wanted some icons too02:48
jessei think i need to get a different one02:48
toorimai use the pvr150 for sd and pchdtv5500 for hd02:48
jessehow clear does the pchdtv5500 come in?02:49
toorimait is very nice and clear02:49
jessehmm02:49
jessecurrently i have a Dvico and i'm having problems02:49
jessei cant get my audio to work right..02:49
toorimaperfect picture most of the time and that is on a 42" plasma02:50
jessedang02:50
jessewould u have any idea what my prob may be?02:50
jesseit seems like it isnt porting the audio thru the pci bus02:50
jesseit has some cable you can connect to your audio card02:50
toorimawell hd just captures the stream so02:50
jessei'm wondering if maybe i dont have to keep that on :-\02:50
jessewell its giving me probs in both SD and HD02:51
jesse:(02:51
toorimai had soundproblems at first, using optical sound02:51
jesseso how do you get around it?02:51
toorimaso i recorded a little bit, and played the file on another computer02:51
toorimajust to see that i had sound in the file02:51
jesseyeah02:52
jessehmm02:52
toorimahad to do some config to get the optical sound to work02:52
toorimato my amp02:52
jessewhat os are you running?02:52
toorimamythbuntu02:52
jessesame here02:53
jessei tried mythdora02:53
jessei managed to get sound but it was really bad quality02:53
jessei dunno what to do about this damn thing02:53
toorimai tried mythdora to but didnt like it02:53
jesseyeah i like mythbuntu more02:53
toorimanever liked red hat either so02:54
jesseoh02:54
jessei learned on fc502:54
jesseliked it back then.. but everything was pretty equal back then02:54
jesseno os seemed to have an upper hand for a newbie02:54
toorimaallways like apt02:54
toorimaover rpm02:54
jesseyeah02:54
jessei like source.. lol02:54
toorimahehe02:54
jessei've been using slackware on my main since 10.102:54
toorimai started on slack in 9902:55
toorimabut moved to debian after a year or so02:55
jesseyou have any idea how well slack would do as a myth box?02:57
jessemay do that or arch02:57
toorimahavent used slack since but should do good02:57
jessehmm02:57
jessemaybe i should give that try02:57
jessebut i wonder how hard it'd be to get the remote to work w/ it02:58
jessei think slacks kernel should have most tv tuners02:58
jessebut remote.. :-\02:58
toorimashould have it02:58
toorimabut yeah lirc can be a pain02:58
jessewhat is lirc? lol02:59
jessesorry.. new to it02:59
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toorimathe program that handles remotes03:00
toorimait could be horrible to set up manually and get all buttons to work03:01
jesseyeah03:01
jessei better do some investigating03:01
jessearch seems like it'd be really good tho03:02
jessearch is a very up to date, always updating os03:02
toorimahttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=slackware+mythtv&btnG=Google+Search03:02
jesseand easy to customize as far as running deamons03:02
toorimasome nice stuff there03:02
jesseoh thanks man03:03
toorimai tried arch once but on a brand new laptop, didnt go well but gonna try it again when i have more time03:03
toorimaarch looks good03:03
jesseyeah arch is good03:03
jessei use it on my laptop03:03
jessei have cpu scaling and some other stuff03:04
toorimawill probably be my next os then03:04
slestakanyone using a dvico hdtv5 gold for dvb-t?  im having a heck of a time setting up a channel.conf for this thing03:04
jessei have it set up so i can set the cpu priority which then regulates the fan speed... if the battery gets low then it changes the cpu & fan accordingly03:04
slestaki have tried using scan from dvb-utils as well as w_scan to no avail03:05
toorimajesse: nice03:05
jesseslestak.. i have the dvico fushion hdtv3 and am having probs w/ audio03:05
jesseyeah it is pretty bitchin lol03:05
slestakwith the analog or hd side?03:05
jesseand w/ that 9 cell battery it seems to last a while03:05
jessesletak.. pm ?03:05
jesseand analog03:05
slestakpm is fine03:06
toorimahmm see if i can add the icons manually instead03:06
slestakjesse: not sure how to start a pm in irssi03:06
jesseok03:07
jessewell03:07
jessei can get audio to stream thru that cable03:07
jessebut i cant get it to actually enter the pc03:07
jesseit just streams it straight out my sound card03:07
jesseso if i pause or record it only gets video.. no audio03:07
jesseslestak?03:08
slestaki havent gotten far enough to tackle audio.  im using spdif and the alsa to get audio to my receiver03:08
jessebut can you pause it?03:09
jessei can get audio to come out if i plug it into my sound card and enable aux audio03:09
jessebut it only streams it straight out to my speaker03:09
slestaki dont know, i do not have any channels setupyet.  autoscan is not getting anythig, as well as scan and w_scan03:09
jesseyeah my scans couldnt pick anything up either03:10
slestakhow did you get your channel data?03:10
jessei only have analog03:10
jessedo u not have that either?03:10
slestaki could set that up, im mainly interested in DT though03:10
jessedid you set up a video source?03:11
slestakim not even sure i will setup sd if i can get dt working03:11
jesseyeah03:11
jessewell did u set up a video source?03:11
slestakyes, i setup a video source, capture device, input, etc.03:11
slestakim working out of myth right now to see that the card is functional03:12
jessebut did you set up a video source for atsc / dvb using EIT?03:12
slestakmaybe with vlc or mplayer03:12
slestaki dont think i did.03:12
jessetry that03:12
jessemaybe thats the prob..03:12
slestakis that in mythbackendsetup?03:12
jesseyeah03:12
jessemythtv-setup03:12
slestakthe only capture card i have setup is DVB:003:14
jessehm03:15
slestakvideo sources, us-bcast schedules direct feed.03:15
jessetry pcHDTV DTV capture03:15
jessew/ V4L drivers03:15
slestakok, i'll reset it03:15
slestakvideo device /dev/video0?03:16
slestakjesse: where is the EIT setting made?03:17
jesseits an option in the video source selection03:17
jesseu can either set up no grabber, eit, or schedules direct03:18
slestakoh, i already have a SD acct, should i use eit instead?03:19
jessefor hd maybe?03:19
jesselol03:19
jessei dunno.. i'm experimenting03:19
slestaki see it now, i'll try it.03:19
jessei'm starting to wonder if maybe we dont have the wrong video card.. :-\03:19
jessefrom what i read Dvico is supposed to be good03:19
jessebut after looking at other ppls htpc's i wonder03:20
jesseeveryones using something different03:20
jessealot using pvr 150 for SD and pcHDTV for HD03:20
slestakim not seeing anything different on the atsc scan03:20
jessewhen u scan what configs do u use..03:21
jesselike freq table03:21
jesseatsc mod03:21
slestakfreq table broadcast, atsc 8-vsb (i want ota only) channel sep "-"03:22
jessetry using a qam?03:22
slestakqam for ota?  ive only seen that listed for cable03:23
jesseoo ur only doin broadcast03:23
jessehmm03:23
jessesince my card only has 1 input how could i run cable and an HD int. to it?03:24
jesseget a 2 to 1, male to 2 male connector?03:24
slestakwhen i move the antenna to the tv to use the internal tuner, i get 5+ ota perfectly, so i know th eposition of the ant and the signal strength is there03:24
jessehmm03:24
slestakduring the scan, it says "No Lock" while its doing it03:25
jessesame here03:25
jesseit cant find the channel..03:25
jessemaybe dvico is just junk?03:28
jesse:-\03:28
slestakdunno.  im seeing success on the forums, ive only had it since yesterday03:29
slestaki think it would help me if i had done this with an analog first before adding the complexity of hdtv channels.conf03:30
jesseyeah..03:31
jessehow much did you pay for that card if you dont mind saying03:31
jessei was looking at going for the #5 if i couldnt get my #3 to work03:31
slestak149, that included a set of rabbit ears03:31
slestaksnapstream.com03:31
rhpot1991anyone have any idea how to verify which port mysql is running on?03:32
jessenot to my knowledge.. just have to trust the myth03:32
jesselol03:32
jesse149.. not bad03:33
slestakwhen you do mythfilldb you can see the connection on the console, can you see ht eport number there?03:33
jessei paid $39 + $15ish for SH... ebay03:33
slestakim having some success!03:33
slestaki saw wxmi go by on the scan03:33
jessewhat are your settings? lol03:33
slestakjust a sec03:34
jesseok lol03:34
jessei wanna try it too03:34
jesselol03:34
slestaki didnt use the v4l capture card, i used the one i was set to initially.  dvb dtv capture card03:35
jessehmm03:35
jessei'll have to try that one also03:35
slestakthe frontend id will change to dvico v203:35
slestaki used eit instead of scheduled direc.03:35
jesse?03:35
jesseok03:35
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slestaklets see if i can watch any tv03:35
noonanhowdy03:36
jessedamn man that dvb takes forever lol03:36
jesseanyone use knoppmyth?03:37
jessethink i'm going to if i cant get audio on mythbuntu03:37
jesseand if that fails.. prolly have to get a different card lol03:37
jesseslestak can you plz try to pick up analog and tell me how it goes03:38
jesseif it works for u then maybe i'll buy a dvico #503:38
slestakoh man, i have abc-hd03:39
jesseoh snap! ol03:39
jesseu think i could use one of those old ant. they used on analog to cature HD?03:39
slestaknot exactly smooth, but im just getting started03:39
jesseget an external HD reciever03:40
slestaki have 9.00 rabbit ears from Menards03:40
jessei heard those externals PULL channels03:40
slestaki have an estimate in to get a roof antenna03:42
jesseuse the tax return?03:42
jesselol03:42
jessei saw some small ones you can mount right out a window for fairly cheap03:42
jesseu gonna try analog?03:42
jesseplz lol03:42
slestakmy mythfrontend is using all the cpu ive got.03:43
slestakvery choppy video03:43
jessedo u have audio w/ the HD?03:43
slestakyes03:43
jessehmm03:43
jessecan you try analog plz03:43
slestakchoppy video though.03:43
jessei may get a dvico #503:43
jesseyeah03:43
jessewhat CPU u have?03:43
slestakmy machine is a p4, 3G with 2 g of ram, thought it would be able to hang03:44
jesseyeah it should03:44
jessei'm running a p4 2.2ghz03:44
jesselimit your audio sampling03:44
jessei forget where its at03:44
jessebut as long as you keep it above like 4.1khz... 4100hz the human ear wont notice03:45
jessecould prolly even drop it below that03:45
jessegiven the abuse i gave my ears in highschool w/ bass lol03:46
jesseprolly wont notice much at the lowest setting03:46
slestaki see it on the capture card setup, but i only have two choices, 32k or 44k03:47
jesseDUDE i'm pullin HD too03:47
slestakbut thats on teh analog options03:47
jessetry 32 see how it does03:47
jesseo03:47
jessehow did you route your audio?03:48
jessei need help w/ that if you can man03:48
slestakdo you have spdif connection on your sound card?  the digital finer link03:48
jessei dunno what that means lol03:48
jessei have that thing that connects from the capture to the sound03:49
slestakdo you have a fiber optic connection on your sound card, its a wird plug that snaps in03:49
jesseits plugged into the TAD03:49
jesseyeah03:49
jessewhere do i have to plug it in to03:49
slestaki have that running to a denon av receiver03:49
slestakso im exporting my sound03:50
jesseoo03:50
jesseso if u pause the video does the sound keep streaming?03:50
slestakcould you run your output out one jack and then back in the mic input?03:50
slestakmy video is too choppy03:50
jessetry analog03:50
jessetell me how well it works? lol03:50
slestakim not sure how to setup analog03:50
jessejust do the analog tuner w/ the schedules direct source03:51
jesseits pretty cake03:51
slestaki need to setup that lineup, i deleted all the analog stations03:51
jesseooo03:52
slestaki may need to change my tv input, i am using vga, which is like 1280 x sth resoluiotn, maybe the hd is being scaled (the high cpu).  i have an hdmi input i can try03:53
jesseyeah03:53
slestakso i should have to capture cards setup, one for hd channels and another for analog?  from the same physical card?03:53
jessei have DVI out to my monitor and Svid cloned to my CRT tv03:53
jessei think so03:53
slestaki think i have a lockup.  no activity when selecting new capture card03:54
slestakim going to reboot and try the hdmi input03:55
slestakback in a minute03:56
slestakjesse: well, the frontend is using a lot less cpu with the hdmi, but i also have no output04:09
slestaksince i had a lockup, im going to make sure my last settings were saved04:09
jessehmm04:11
jessealright04:11
jessemne locked up too.. now my tv tuner isnt working :-\04:11
slestaki have some overscan with the hdmi input.  on the right and left i lose about 5% of the screen, enought to not see some of the setup.  is it possible to "crop" or hardcode a factor in the ui to ge tthis back?04:13
jessei dunno04:15
slestakgreat, so much for ubuntus unbreakable X, now its pulling down 100% cpu04:16
toorimadamn put in some high-res icons for my hd channels now, looks good04:16
jesselol04:17
jessecan you pause your video tho?04:17
slestakwhat resolution are you running your hd at?04:17
slestaki dunno yet, not stable yet04:17
jesseright now i'm not04:17
jessei cant get anything to work04:17
jessei had to kill power to it04:17
toorimaanyone know how to change the order of the channels? i have the channels in order in mythweb but while "zaping" around they are not in numerical order04:17
jessenow tuner doesnt work04:17
slestaki dont have a remote configured, so im not sure how to pauise with the keyboard04:18
jessep04:18
jessedoes your audio continue to play?04:18
slestakcant tel yet, im doing another reboot04:18
slestaki may need to go back to vga input04:19
defendguinhey is there a way to flush the program guide data and download a fresh copy?04:20
jessei know it does it on its own every so often04:21
jessedunno how to force it04:21
defendguinbummer the cable company changed the cable lineup and i noticed its updated on the schedules direct site but my box still has outdated channel line up04:23
jessei think my router is blocking schedules04:23
jesse:(04:23
jesseany chance u know what ports it uses?04:23
defendguinnope04:24
slestaki wonder if the hdmi input could be drm'd up and be blocking hte hd into the tv.  worked on vga, just not into hdmi04:25
jessedunno man04:28
slestakgoing back to vga input04:31
jessethis sound thing is pissing me off big time lol04:31
slestakcrap, had he antenna lead off04:32
slestak;P04:32
jesselol04:32
defendguinmythfilldatabase --refresh-today  should tell you something jesse04:32
slestakare you going to use this with a stereo at all?04:32
slestakor pc speakers jesse?04:32
jessei cant get audio out period04:33
jesseunless i plug it directly into my aux04:33
jessebut the aux is fed straight out to speakers04:33
jesseno way to record it04:33
slestakdid you get a book with your card, there is some stuff in mine about "direct to dma" audio04:34
slestakok, even with the antenna connected, nothing on hdmi.  i know the mpaa has sth to do with this04:35
slestakwheres my tin foil hat04:35
jesselol04:36
defendguinfrick04:39
slestakjesse: when ipause, the sound pauses as well. it appears to be in sync04:41
jessefuck balls!04:41
jesselol04:41
jessewhy wont mine :(04:42
jessedo you have that audio cable connect to anything inside the pc?04:42
slestakwhat in the heck is process apport04:42
slestaklooks like mythfrontend crashed04:42
jesseis there a cable that connects from the tv tuner to anything?04:42
slestaki did connect the capture card to the cd-in jumper on the motherboard04:43
jessehmm04:44
jessemaybe thats my prob.. mines connect to the TAD on my sound card04:44
jessemy sound card doesnt have a CD in.. only TAD and Aux04:44
jessemaybe i should try to connect directly to my motherboard?04:44
slestakthe cd-in will be on the moptherboard04:46
slestaki had to look for the manual to find it04:46
jessein windows it works w/o it tho ?04:48
slestaki dont have windows04:48
jessewell in my windows it will work w/o being connect to the motherboard and i dunno why04:48
jesseoh shit man!!!!04:50
jesseIT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!04:50
jessei somehow got it to port the audio thru the pci bus04:50
jessedunno what i did but by god it works04:50
jesse!!!!04:50
jesseTHANK YOU JESUS04:51
jesselol04:51
jesseI think i'm going to install full blown ubuntu tho04:51
jessethen run myth on that04:51
slestakive been tweaking the playback settings and have the cpu usage down.04:51
jessekool04:53
jessehd looking alright?04:53
slestakwonder if i need to deinterlace on an lcd hdtv?04:53
slestaklooks better, almost fluid.  not quite as smooteh as id like.  there is a live feed from the kennedy center on, good material for testing04:54
jessehmm04:54
jessekool04:54
slestakwell, good luck with your rig04:56
slestakgonna run04:56
defendguinfuck04:57
defendguinhow canb the channel lineup still be wrong if it is correct on schedules direct05:01
jesseit hasnt updated to your pc yet05:05
jesseprolly had an error in it when your machine uploaded it05:05
jessethen they corrected but your machine has yet to download the corrected version05:06
defendguini manually ran a mythfilldatabase  --refresh-all  and it pulled down all new data05:06
lime4x4has anyonr gotten sirius online to play thru mythtv? i followed this wikki and when i click on the sirius button it dumps the myth box back to the desktop http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Integrate_Sirius05:09
JThundleyif you listen to stern, I record it daily to vorbis, I'll let you in my private stash05:26
lime4x4i lovr stern. listen to him every morning going to work05:28
MythbuntuGuest43hi06:50
MythbuntuGuest43how do i get icons in?06:59
SteveBookHi all09:40
SteveBookI've got a little problem getting mythbuntu to run on my rig09:40
SteveBookIt just hangs at "running local root script (/etc/rc.local)09:40
SteveBookanyone had that problem before?09:41
SteveBookit's a P4 2.8, ATI Radeon 9600, 256MB RAM btw09:42
SteveBookwith a SATA hard disk09:42
blkorpheusneed help13:54
blkorpheusbefore I file a bug13:54
Seeker`is there a way to find out what resoution the live TV is running at?15:08
javatexanmaybe, I have found via tivo that there are several resolutions that things are broadcasted in.  I can have tivo set at High Recording for several channels and get several different resolutions from the recorded files.  As I understand it you have 1080i 1080p 480i and 480p and I am not too sure where NTSC and PAL fit into it.18:09
javatexanhope that helps18:12
rhpot1991Seeker`: if you check under setup, tv, recording profiles18:41
rhpot1991then chose your recorder and live tv18:42
rhpot1991you can set it under there18:42
blkorpheusneed some assistance with myth-backend18:46
rhpot1991!ask18:46
ubotuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)18:46
blkorpheusthat was a statement, but anyway18:53
rhpot1991still applies18:53
rhpot1991ask your question so people can see it18:53
blkorpheusthe myth-backend is telling me I don't have permissions, my record folder does not exists18:53
blkorpheusall erroneous18:53
rhpot1991does a recordings folder exist with permissions for the user running myth-backend to write to?18:54
blkorpheusand then it dies. I can run it by itself from term, and it stays running, but the script dies, mentioning the non-existant nfslock fike?18:54
blkorpheusrhpot1991, yes18:55
blkorpheusI moved it from the default location, because of hd space18:55
rhpot1991and you are sure you changed the location in mythtv-setup?18:55
blkorpheusgoogle reveals others have resolved the issue simply deleting the nfs lock fle18:56
blkorpheuspositive18:56
blkorpheusthats why when it said the directory does not exist, I'm looking at it18:56
blkorpheuswith the same files it recorded to, when run from term18:57
blkorpheusI can't find a bug for it, and did not want to file until sure it is not user error18:57
blkorpheusPermission denied Unable to open lockfile!, the file is long gone18:58
blkorpheus:(18:58
* blkorpheus weeping18:58
blkorpheus:-P18:59
blkorpheusis myhth keeping old data somewhere?18:59
rhpot1991what if you make a new empty lock file?18:59
blkorpheustried that18:59
blkorpheusno dice18:59
blkorpheussame errrot19:00
blkorpheuserror19:00
rhpot1991not really sure19:00
rhpot1991checked the user mailing list?19:00
blkorpheusonly what google came back with19:00
blkorpheussome guy had the same issue, and they just glossed over it19:00
blkorpheusalso on the ubuntu forums, for mythbuntu project, another with the issue, and no resolve for me19:01
blkorpheusI even renamed the folder19:01
javatexanI fixed that with the INFAMOUS sudo chmod -R 777 /directory trick19:01
blkorpheusI'd hate to put it backto default19:01
javatexanit was the only way I could do it19:01
blkorpheusdid that19:01
javatexandid you restart?19:02
blkorpheusmythtv is the owner and group for everything related19:02
blkorpheus-R19:02
blkorpheusits driving me up a wall19:02
javatexanyou are using mythbuntu?19:03
javatexanwho is autologging in to the system, mythtv or your user19:04
javatexanmy user is logging into mine19:04
blkorpheusits a ubuntu box I installed mythtv on19:05
blkorpheusmy user logs in19:05
blkorpheusI can only run myth with sudo or root running mythbackend19:06
blkorpheusI'd like to stop doing it that way19:06
rhpot1991that shouldn't happen19:06
rhpot1991when you say myth you mean the back or frontend?19:06
blkorpheusbut just now, I started mythbackend via root, and the backend runs flawless. It creates a new nfslock file with root permissions on it, but see the record folder fine, and works as supposed.19:07
blkorpheusbackend19:07
rhpot1991you should be staring myth with sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start19:07
blkorpheusof course19:07
blkorpheusthats why I'm upset19:07
rhpot1991it will also automagically start like that on boot19:07
blkorpheusthe script starts, then dies, talking about permissions etc19:08
blkorpheusI understand how its supposed to work, but it is not19:08
javatexanremember it all depends on who created the directories19:11
rhpot1991root should have access though, unless you really did something funky19:12
blkorpheuschanged it back to the default directory, the script starts and the backend does not fail19:13
blkorpheusah dios mio19:13
blkorpheusnew nfslockfile.lock but wth mythtv user and group 644?19:14
blkorpheusoctal permissions 277519:17
javatexanthats why you have to be sudo to do it19:31
=== claydoh_ is now known as claydoh
MythbuntuGuest79I have used vnc (read vino) to connect one computer running gnome to another. I am not sure how to set anything up though when running gnome on one computer and mythbuntu on the other. I have enabled vnc in the mythbuntu set up but thats all I have.20:28
Dr_willisI normally install vnc4server20:29
Dr_willisim not sure what enabling vnc on the mythubuntu setup does actually. Never tried that.20:30
Dr_williswatching videos over vnc.. is not doable I am thinking.20:30
MythbuntuGuest79I just want to be able to use it when I need to move files around and that kind of thing. I just need a basic gui but no video support20:33
Dr_willisI would say install a light window manager. or use whatever the default is.. ssh in, start 'vnc4server' connect with any vnc client.  do what you want..20:37
Dr_willisNo need to use vino/gnome.20:37
Dr_willisOr use mc in the terminal for a nice file manager if you dont like the cli commands.20:37
Dr_willisi normally have a vncserver session going - so i can connect to the box's and do things. :)20:38
Dr_willisits best to use a very light window manager for vnc.  I use jwm.20:38
MythbuntuGuest79is there a how to on that some where you could link me to? I know nothing about ssh20:38
Dr_willisssh is documented at 100000000000000's of web sites20:38
Dr_willisssh remotebox20:39
Dr_willisget a shell.. there ya go. :)20:39
Dr_willisrun vnc4server if you want, or mc, or do the file managing from the shell.20:39
Dr_willisYou have to install the sshd server package, its not installed by default20:39
Dr_willis!find ssh20:39
ubotuFound: aolserver4-nssha1, autossh, clusterssh, crosshurd, dpsyco-ssh (and 28 others)20:39
Dr_willis!find sshd20:40
ubotuFile sshd found in apparmor-profiles, gradm, logwatch, openssh-server20:40
pdragonit's that last one20:42
pdragonopenssh-server20:42
MythbuntuGuest79openssh-server  is installed20:43
Dr_willisYep. I never can rember the name. :)20:43
Dr_willisinstall vnc4server20:43
Dr_willisthen run it.. it will make a .vnc/xstartup file. Kill vnc4server with vncserver --kill:1  edit xstartup as you like.. rerun the server. connect with any client. :)20:44
Dr_willisfor some ODD reason I think the default xstartup still tries to run 'twm' which is not instaled by default.20:44
Dr_willisdoh.. its vncserver -kill:1          using 2 -- will makeit spawn yet another vnc session20:48
MythbuntuGuest79ok it said it created a startup script when I ran the set up. so to connect would I just type vncviewer media-center:120:50
Dr_willisYep.20:53
Dr_willisYou might want to tweak the xstartup script however.20:53
blkorpheusnice move to release alpha 3 ubuntu in time for kde4 releases20:53
Dr_williskde4 is not running good for me under vnc. :) i gotta go to the basement and try it out soon20:53
MythbuntuGuest79ok I got an error  unable to connect to host: No route to host (113)20:55
Dr_williscan you ping the machine?20:55
Dr_willisYou may need to use its ip# not the host name.. Unless your hosts file is set up properly20:56
Dr_willisyou also may want to check the vnc logs. Just in case it did try to run twm, which wasent there.20:56
Dr_willisGoing to the Basement.. be back in a few.20:57
Dr_willis_There we go.21:03
MythbuntuGuest79ok it helps to have the network cable plugged in all the way. I am getting a  unable to connect to host: No route to host (113) I need to put in the password. Where do I do that?21:05
MythbuntuGuest79ok I am not sure what I did but it gave my a pop up password box. I think something was messed up. I am going to restart and see if that fixes.21:09
Dr_willis_the vncviewer should pop up a dialog asking21:10
Dr_willis_check your xstartup file and the vncserver logs also (in the .vnc dir)21:10
MythbuntuGuest79ok now it is not taking my password. what file is the passowrd saved in or how can I change it?21:20
Dr_willis_ vncpasswd21:22
Dr_willis_the passwprd is stored in .vnc/passwd it seems21:23
MythbuntuGuest79ok I logged in again and I get a almost blank screen http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/4373/screenshotxe8.png21:25
Dr_willis_Did you set up the xstartup to run somthing other then twm? Check the vncserver logs in .vnc?21:26
MythbuntuGuest79ok mythbuntu seems to have no program that can read a .log what program should I be using to veiw them?21:28
Dr_willis_its a text file..21:29
Dr_willis_like 99% of all logs and config files. :)21:29
Dr_willis_more whatever.log21:30
MythbuntuGuest79I have used .logs with ubuntu.21:30
Dr_willis_check the xstartup file also. see what its running.21:31
MythbuntuGuest79I am still trying to figure out a program in mythbuntu that will open these.21:39
Dr_willis_they are text files. use any text editor. or the more command.21:40
Dr_willis_Install your fave editor if you want.21:41
Dr_willis_or use the cat command from a terminal if you want.21:41
MythbuntuGuest79ok this might be a problem in the xstartup it has the entry xsetroot -solid grey21:46
Dr_willis_look below that line and see what window manager its running.21:57
Dr_willis_if its running twm and twm is not installed then you wont have a window manager, or muchof a desktop21:58
Dr_willis_if it Is running twm. and you have twm.. well.. twm is so minimal.. its hard to get used to.21:58
Dr_willis_xsetroot -solid grey is just setting a solid grey color wallpaper.22:00
MythbuntuGuest79hmm I wonder what it could be then. at the top of that file it says uncomment the following lines for a normal desktop I did that and I get a screen that is totally blank.22:02
Dr_willis_my standard xstartup is like the following.. 3 lines total.22:03
Dr_willis_xsetroot -solid grey &22:03
Dr_willis_xterm &22:03
Dr_willis_jwm22:03
Dr_willis_i have installed jwm. and that is the widnow manager i am using for vnc.22:04
Dr_willis_I dont know what exact lines are in your config file.22:04
Dr_willis_i DONT uncomment the 2 lines they mention at the top. That  makes the vncserver spawn your default desktop (i think)22:04
Dr_willis_When you make changes to the xstartup file. Your eally should kill the currently running vncserver and restart it. just changing the file does not affect any running servers22:05
MythbuntuGuest79I killed it. I still have a blank screen. it is kind of a cross hatch look. could it be a color setting?22:11
Dr_willis_thats what the xsetroot command removes.22:13
Dr_willis_if you uncommented the first 2 lines.. the lines after those - i dont think EVER get read.22:13
Dr_willis_# exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc   - will reroute to xinitrc, anything past that line is ignored.22:13
Dr_willis_and i got no idea if using xinitrc is a good idea or not.22:14
Dr_willis_all xinitrc does is run --> . /etc/X11/Xsession22:14
Dr_willis_From here.. uncommenting those lines.. makes nothing run. So i would say comment them back. and manually confuigure what you want ran.22:16
MythbuntuGuest79ok what do I need to do to manually configure it?22:19
Dr_willis_Make it run the winow manager you want to run.22:19
Dr_willis_like the example i gave above.22:19
Dr_willis_sudo apt-get install jwm22:20
Dr_willis_then set the last line to be 'exec jwm' or just 'jwm' instead of twm.22:20
lime4x4what is the trick to connecting to a remote backend? I have mythbuntu running the frontend and backend i installed mythtv on my gutsy box used the address of the mythtv box and password but when i start the mythtv frontend on gutsy it won't connect to the mythbuntu box22:24
Dr_willis_well i think for one. You beed to ahve the proper ip# in the mythtv-setup22:26
lime4x4i did 192.168.1.1022:27
lime4x4when i start mythtv from a shell it's not connecting to the data base22:27
Dr_willis_Im going from memory here.. so i may be wrojkg. but theres 2 places for the ip#. one is 127.0.0.1 i thoight. that needs to be change4d for the frontendsd to see it.22:27
lime4x4QMYSQL3: Unable to connect22:28
lime4x4Database error was:22:28
lime4x4Can't connect to MySQL server on '192.168.1.10' (111)22:28
Dr_willis_That sounds like your mysql password may be wrong.22:28
MythbuntuGuest79ok that worked. I am not a big fan of that though. Is there any way to let it use xfce?22:29
Dr_willis_MythbuntuGuest79,    instead of 'exec jwm' or whatever.. make it load whatever starts up xfce22:29
MythbuntuGuest78hello22:29
lime4x4well i did change it to match the one used on the mythtv backend server thru the mythtv frontend on the gutsy box22:29
Dr_willis_which seems to be the  startxfce4  command. :)22:30
lime4x4QSqlQuery::exec: database not open22:30
lime4x4QSqlQuery::exec: database not open22:30
lime4x42008-01-11 17:25:59.250 DB Error (KickDatabase):22:30
lime4x4Query was:22:30
lime4x4SELECT NULL;22:30
lime4x4No error type from QSqlError?  Strange...22:30
lime4x42008-01-11 17:26:01.728 Unable to connect to database!22:30
lime4x42008-01-11 17:26:01.728 Driver error was [1/2003]:22:30
lime4x4QMYSQL3: Unable to connect22:30
lime4x4Database error was:22:30
lime4x4Can't connect to MySQL server on '192.168.1.10' (111)22:30
lime4x4do i have to forwrd any ports on the router? I don't think i have to cause it's all local traffic22:31
Dr_willis_There may be some mysql settings to allow other machines to access it.22:32
MythbuntuGuest79Is there a standard command for xfce4? How do I figure that out?22:32
Dr_willis_I suck at MySQL.22:32
lime4x4yeah i checked that in the mcc control panel22:32
Dr_willis_MythbuntuGuest78,  ---------> which seems to be the  startxfce4  command. :)22:32
Dr_willis_MythbuntuGuest79,  ---------> which seems to be the  startxfce4  command. :)22:32
Dr_willis_:)22:32
MythbuntuGuest78?22:33
* Dr_willis_ tells the various people that the command /nick PickANewNick - will change your Nickname to smmthing a bit more readable.22:33
=== MythbuntuGuest78 is now known as Simminator
Dr_willis_The command to start the default xfce desktop is 'startxfce4'22:34
Dr_willis_:)22:34
Simminatori have a couple of questions22:34
Simminatori downloaded the latest release of mythbuntu and am trying to run the install on a box i built22:35
lime4x4i used sudo apt-get install mythtv on the gusty box22:35
Simminatorthe installer hits the point of realizing LIRC (i dont know what LIRC is) and says its not configured22:35
Simminatorwell i have the latest release of ubuntu installed on a different drive and it runs mythtv just fine22:37
Simminatorso i know that the box is capable of running ubuntu and mythtv, but i wanted to see if i could get mythbuntu running22:37
Dr_willis_I just normally intall Mythubuntu, then install whatever other parts of ubuntu i want.22:38
Simminatorthats just my problem22:39
Dr_willis_I think on this box  i installed mythubuntu, then isntalled ubuntu-desktop. and kubuntu-desktop22:39
Simminatori cant get mythbuntu installed22:39
Dr_willis_on the Frontend box. I just used mythubuntu, and followed its little wizard I think.22:39
MythbuntuGuest79ok I cahnged jwm to startxfce4 and It gives me terminal session with no window borders or anything.22:40
Simminatorok22:41
Dr_willis_looks like startxfce4 tries to spawn a new X session.. odd for it to do things that way22:46
Dr_willis_guess you could run    xfwm4 &  and  xfce4-panel   from the xstartup file22:48
MythbuntuGuest79so I should change startxfce4 to xfwm4 &  and  xfce4-panel ?22:50
=== MythbuntuGuest75 is now known as Xenocide
Xenocidehey guys can anyone help me in setting up a remote wonder Ii remote22:52
Dr_willis_MythbuntuGuest79,  thats one way. you may want to run some other xfce related tools also. Be sure to use & after all but the last one, which should be starting the panel or window manager.22:53
MythbuntuGuest79what kind of tools? This is my first run with xfce4. I changed jwm to xfce4-panel and that almost worked. I had my applications bar up top but none of the programs would launch. adding xfwm4 to that made the caused tha app bar to not show up.22:57
Dr_willis_the panel is one tool. the window maanger itself is another tool. I dont use xfce, so not sure what else should be ran23:06
Dr_willis_it looke like the startxfce4 script eventually runs /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc  You could just try running  /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc   from your xstartup23:09
lime4x4do i have to something else to the remote backend?23:10
lime4x4QMYSQL3: Unable to connect23:10
lime4x4Database error was:23:10
lime4x4Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'192.168.1.151' (using password: YES)23:10
MythbuntuGuest79Thanks Dr willis I got it working.23:21
Dr_willis_MythbuntuGuest79,  the last part of the /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc , has about 4 commands that seems to be ran for a normal xfce desktop.23:21
Dr_willis_You cant run the acript directly however. - i copied it to a differ file. and edited out all the cruft.23:22
Dr_willis_xfce-mcs-manager & xfwm4 --daemon & xfdesktop &  and xfce4-panel   - seem togive a full Xfce desktop23:23

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