[00:15] lime4x4, last i looked at sirus radio web site - i couldent even get it to work with linux. [00:18] sooooo, anyone actually able to get mythstreamtv to work on mythbuntu? [00:22] is there a way to d/l videos on my mythbox over mythweb to a networked PC? [00:31] TazgodX: I have seen words about setting it up to play in vnc with that menthod, so I would imagine if you setup the directory access correctly you could just right click and save as [00:32] you could just set up a samba or nfs share too [00:34] where can I get a good mkiconmap.pl? [00:35] can someone pastebin theirs for me? [00:35] /usr/share/doc/mythtv-backend/contrib [00:36] <_andrew> TazgodX: I can send you a small Perl script you can set up to download the files from a web server, although it's not pretty and there's some assembly required. [00:36] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=659623 [00:38] he could just set up apache to host out his recordings folder [00:38] easy enough to do, but the names of the files would drive me crazy [00:38] <_andrew> Yeah, the Perl script grabs the names out of the database :) [00:39] blkorpheus: I think that mkikons.pl doesn't work [00:39] or didn't last I tried it [00:39] kept saying zip code was invalid [00:39] I'm on the hunt for a good one [00:40] think maybe in the myth source [00:40] _andrew is it easy? [00:41] <_andrew> Depends - how good are you at configuring Apache? [00:41] well...i can follow directions... :) [00:41] <_andrew> Then it depends on how good am I at describing this stuff on IRC... [00:42] sooo, shall we get started? :) [00:42] blkorpheus: actually it seems to be working better [00:44] what do you mean? [00:45] is the file empty? [00:45] actually [00:45] does it ask for your zipcode? [00:45] did the same thing that the forum post says [00:45] can you pastebin the contents for me please? [00:45] <_andrew> TazgodX, I was gonna do this privately, to keep the noise out of the channel. [00:45] contents of what? [00:45] where can I get a good mkiconmap.pl? [00:45] it used to hang on the zip, but its getting past that atleast [00:46] scroll up, I told you were it is at on your system [00:46] my file is blank [00:46] its prob in a .gz file [00:46] so again, could you pastebin the contents for that file so I can use it? [00:46] that you need to extract [00:46] I've done that, thats how I know its blank [00:46] could you do that for me? [00:48] <_andrew> TazgodX: I dunno if you can see me PMing you, but you've got some time to look while I clean up the script :) [00:49] ill eat really fast then :) [00:49] <_andrew> Let me know when you get back. [00:53] prob wont help you much though, as it doesn't seem to be working [00:53] go search around on the mailing list about the master icons file [00:53] I think thats the latest and greatest way to do the icons [00:59] well i got my MythTV box going again.. and was bout to sign up for schedulesdirect. and the wife decided we dont need cable tv.. :() [01:16] Mkiconmap is deprecated, it's now done with master_iconmap [01:16] _andrew, im back....just don't know for how long :) should be a while tho [01:16] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Channel_icons [01:17] <_andrew> TazgodX: alright, let's have a go... [01:17] thats why mkiconmap does nt work [01:17] ERROR:No icons were found. Please check 'na_icon_error.html' [01:17] <_andrew> The file I'm sending you, put it in /usr/lib/cgi/bin [01:18] <_andrew> (`sudo mv recorded-mythtv.pl /usr/lib/cgi-bin` in the console) [01:18] i not on my mythbuntu box....but we can attmept [01:18] i can putty in [01:18] <_andrew> Yeah, that should be alright. [01:19] <_andrew> Anyway, accept the file, and you can paste it over or something. [01:19] yeah, i have auto accept on... [01:19] shoot === tritium_ is now known as tritium [01:20] <_andrew> Don't tell me - I have to go work out how to use pastebin? [01:20] haha can't send? [01:20] <_andrew> Apparently not. [01:21] i wasn't recognized, i just authed with nickserv [01:21] try now [01:22] <_andrew> Nah, it's okay - just do `sudo wget http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=d3278f227 -O /usr/lib/cgi-bin/recorded-mythtv.pl` on your Linux box. [01:23] thats actually better for me :) [01:23] <_andrew> I suspected as much. [01:24] ok [01:24] <_andrew> Next, `sudo chmod 555 /usr/lib/cgi-bin/recorded-mythtv.pl`. [01:24] <_andrew> Which distro are you using? [01:24] <_andrew> Or to be more precise, do you have a /etc/httpd/ or a /etc/apache/ directory? [01:24] 7.10 mythbuntu [01:24] <_andrew> Good. [01:25] <_andrew> `echo ScriptAlias /recordings /usr/lib/cgi-bin/recorded-mythtv.pl | sudo dd of="/etc/apache2/conf.d/recorded-mythtv"` [01:25] <_andrew> `sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload` [01:25] <_andrew> Oh, and then the bit that's a security risk... [01:26] <_andrew> `chmod 644 /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt` [01:26] had to sudo that last one [01:26] <_andrew> It's probably safe to do that if this is your personal machine, but not if anyone else has access to it. [01:26] <_andrew> Yeah. [01:27] <_andrew> Anyway, if you promise not to come after me when you get hacked, I think we're done. [01:27] lol [01:27] <_andrew> You should now be able to go to http:///recordings/ [01:27] who would want to hack a mythtv box? [01:27] <_andrew> Pirates! [01:28] and, i can d/l anything in recordings now? what about if i put something in my videos folder? pull that too? [01:28] <_andrew> Er, I don't think so. [01:28] <_andrew> I don't have anything in my videos folder, so I didn't bother doing that. [01:29] <_andrew> If you want to do that, you could make it your first programming project. Shouldn't be too hard. [01:29] i get an error goign to recordings dir [01:29] The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. [01:29] <_andrew> :s [01:30] <_andrew> Yeah, that was a bit too easy I guess. [01:30] lol [01:30] <_andrew> So what happens if you run `/usr/lib/cgi-bin/recorded-mythtv.pl` on the command line? [01:31] -bash: /usr/lib/cgi-bin/recorded-mythtv.pl: /usr/bin/perl^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory [01:31] <_andrew> :s [01:31] <_andrew> [01:32] <_andrew> I'll have a look... [01:34] <_andrew> Right... [01:35] <_andrew> wget http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=d3278f227 -O - | sed 's/.$//' | sudo dd of="/usr/lib/cgi-bin/recorded-mythtv.pl"` [01:35] <_andrew> Then, `sudo chmod 555 /usr/lib/cgi-bin/recorded-mythtv.pl`. [01:37] ok [01:37] looks like it works [01:37] :) [01:37] thanks [01:37] <_andrew> :) [01:37] <_andrew> No problem. [01:38] how hard would it be to convert this for a http:///videos for the videos folder? :) [01:39] <_andrew> I don't know - it depends what information MythTV itself has about videos in there. [01:40] <_andrew> If there's not much information, you might be better off just doing `sudo ln -s /var/www/videos`. [01:41] <_andrew> Which is even cheaper and nastier than my script, but should work. [01:41] lol [02:42] hello [02:43] anyone knows what lineup to pick when downloading channel icons, I allready have icons for SD but I get some HD channels for free over the air and dont know what lineup that would be [02:43] i was wondering if someone could help me.. i cannot seem to get my audio to work correctly on my DVICO fusionHDTV3 [02:43] someone please help me lol [02:43] am i going to need a different card? [02:46] toorima cant you use EIT to pick up that information? [02:47] pick up the icons? [02:48] oh hmm [02:48] I dunno man [02:48] i'm new to the world [02:48] what tv tuner card are you using toorima [02:48] i use schedulesdirect for my program info, just wanted some icons too [02:48] i think i need to get a different one [02:48] i use the pvr150 for sd and pchdtv5500 for hd [02:49] how clear does the pchdtv5500 come in? [02:49] it is very nice and clear [02:49] hmm [02:49] currently i have a Dvico and i'm having problems [02:49] i cant get my audio to work right.. [02:50] perfect picture most of the time and that is on a 42" plasma [02:50] dang [02:50] would u have any idea what my prob may be? [02:50] it seems like it isnt porting the audio thru the pci bus [02:50] it has some cable you can connect to your audio card [02:50] well hd just captures the stream so [02:50] i'm wondering if maybe i dont have to keep that on :-\ [02:51] well its giving me probs in both SD and HD [02:51] :( [02:51] i had soundproblems at first, using optical sound [02:51] so how do you get around it? [02:51] so i recorded a little bit, and played the file on another computer [02:51] just to see that i had sound in the file [02:52] yeah [02:52] hmm [02:52] had to do some config to get the optical sound to work [02:52] to my amp [02:52] what os are you running? [02:52] mythbuntu [02:53] same here [02:53] i tried mythdora [02:53] i managed to get sound but it was really bad quality [02:53] i dunno what to do about this damn thing [02:53] i tried mythdora to but didnt like it [02:53] yeah i like mythbuntu more [02:54] never liked red hat either so [02:54] oh [02:54] i learned on fc5 [02:54] liked it back then.. but everything was pretty equal back then [02:54] no os seemed to have an upper hand for a newbie [02:54] allways like apt [02:54] over rpm [02:54] yeah [02:54] i like source.. lol [02:54] hehe [02:54] i've been using slackware on my main since 10.1 [02:55] i started on slack in 99 [02:55] but moved to debian after a year or so [02:57] you have any idea how well slack would do as a myth box? [02:57] may do that or arch [02:57] havent used slack since but should do good [02:57] hmm [02:57] maybe i should give that try [02:58] but i wonder how hard it'd be to get the remote to work w/ it [02:58] i think slacks kernel should have most tv tuners [02:58] but remote.. :-\ [02:58] should have it [02:58] but yeah lirc can be a pain [02:59] what is lirc? lol [02:59] sorry.. new to it === tritium_ is now known as tritium [03:00] the program that handles remotes [03:01] it could be horrible to set up manually and get all buttons to work [03:01] yeah [03:01] i better do some investigating [03:02] arch seems like it'd be really good tho [03:02] arch is a very up to date, always updating os [03:02] http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=slackware+mythtv&btnG=Google+Search [03:02] and easy to customize as far as running deamons [03:02] some nice stuff there [03:03] oh thanks man [03:03] i tried arch once but on a brand new laptop, didnt go well but gonna try it again when i have more time [03:03] arch looks good [03:03] yeah arch is good [03:03] i use it on my laptop [03:04] i have cpu scaling and some other stuff [03:04] will probably be my next os then [03:04] anyone using a dvico hdtv5 gold for dvb-t? im having a heck of a time setting up a channel.conf for this thing [03:04] i have it set up so i can set the cpu priority which then regulates the fan speed... if the battery gets low then it changes the cpu & fan accordingly [03:05] i have tried using scan from dvb-utils as well as w_scan to no avail [03:05] jesse: nice [03:05] slestak.. i have the dvico fushion hdtv3 and am having probs w/ audio [03:05] yeah it is pretty bitchin lol [03:05] with the analog or hd side? [03:05] and w/ that 9 cell battery it seems to last a while [03:05] sletak.. pm ? [03:05] and analog [03:06] pm is fine [03:06] hmm see if i can add the icons manually instead [03:06] jesse: not sure how to start a pm in irssi [03:07] ok [03:07] well [03:07] i can get audio to stream thru that cable [03:07] but i cant get it to actually enter the pc [03:07] it just streams it straight out my sound card [03:07] so if i pause or record it only gets video.. no audio [03:08] slestak? [03:08] i havent gotten far enough to tackle audio. im using spdif and the alsa to get audio to my receiver [03:09] but can you pause it? [03:09] i can get audio to come out if i plug it into my sound card and enable aux audio [03:09] but it only streams it straight out to my speaker [03:09] i dont know, i do not have any channels setupyet. autoscan is not getting anythig, as well as scan and w_scan [03:10] yeah my scans couldnt pick anything up either [03:10] how did you get your channel data? [03:10] i only have analog [03:10] do u not have that either? [03:10] i could set that up, im mainly interested in DT though [03:11] did you set up a video source? [03:11] im not even sure i will setup sd if i can get dt working [03:11] yeah [03:11] well did u set up a video source? [03:11] yes, i setup a video source, capture device, input, etc. [03:12] im working out of myth right now to see that the card is functional [03:12] but did you set up a video source for atsc / dvb using EIT? [03:12] maybe with vlc or mplayer [03:12] i dont think i did. [03:12] try that [03:12] maybe thats the prob.. [03:12] is that in mythbackendsetup? [03:12] yeah [03:12] mythtv-setup [03:14] the only capture card i have setup is DVB:0 [03:15] hm [03:15] video sources, us-bcast schedules direct feed. [03:15] try pcHDTV DTV capture [03:15] w/ V4L drivers [03:15] ok, i'll reset it [03:16] video device /dev/video0? [03:17] jesse: where is the EIT setting made? [03:17] its an option in the video source selection [03:18] u can either set up no grabber, eit, or schedules direct [03:19] oh, i already have a SD acct, should i use eit instead? [03:19] for hd maybe? [03:19] lol [03:19] i dunno.. i'm experimenting [03:19] i see it now, i'll try it. [03:19] i'm starting to wonder if maybe we dont have the wrong video card.. :-\ [03:19] from what i read Dvico is supposed to be good [03:20] but after looking at other ppls htpc's i wonder [03:20] everyones using something different [03:20] alot using pvr 150 for SD and pcHDTV for HD [03:20] im not seeing anything different on the atsc scan [03:21] when u scan what configs do u use.. [03:21] like freq table [03:21] atsc mod [03:22] freq table broadcast, atsc 8-vsb (i want ota only) channel sep "-" [03:22] try using a qam? [03:23] qam for ota? ive only seen that listed for cable [03:23] oo ur only doin broadcast [03:23] hmm [03:24] since my card only has 1 input how could i run cable and an HD int. to it? [03:24] get a 2 to 1, male to 2 male connector? [03:24] when i move the antenna to the tv to use the internal tuner, i get 5+ ota perfectly, so i know th eposition of the ant and the signal strength is there [03:24] hmm [03:25] during the scan, it says "No Lock" while its doing it [03:25] same here [03:25] it cant find the channel.. [03:28] maybe dvico is just junk? [03:28] :-\ [03:29] dunno. im seeing success on the forums, ive only had it since yesterday [03:30] i think it would help me if i had done this with an analog first before adding the complexity of hdtv channels.conf [03:31] yeah.. [03:31] how much did you pay for that card if you dont mind saying [03:31] i was looking at going for the #5 if i couldnt get my #3 to work [03:31] 149, that included a set of rabbit ears [03:31] snapstream.com [03:32] anyone have any idea how to verify which port mysql is running on? [03:32] not to my knowledge.. just have to trust the myth [03:32] lol [03:33] 149.. not bad [03:33] when you do mythfilldb you can see the connection on the console, can you see ht eport number there? [03:33] i paid $39 + $15ish for SH... ebay [03:33] im having some success! [03:33] i saw wxmi go by on the scan [03:33] what are your settings? lol [03:34] just a sec [03:34] ok lol [03:34] i wanna try it too [03:34] lol [03:35] i didnt use the v4l capture card, i used the one i was set to initially. dvb dtv capture card [03:35] hmm [03:35] i'll have to try that one also [03:35] the frontend id will change to dvico v2 [03:35] i used eit instead of scheduled direc. [03:35] ? [03:35] ok === Tar1 is now known as Tari [03:35] lets see if i can watch any tv [03:36] howdy [03:36] damn man that dvb takes forever lol [03:37] anyone use knoppmyth? [03:37] think i'm going to if i cant get audio on mythbuntu [03:37] and if that fails.. prolly have to get a different card lol [03:38] slestak can you plz try to pick up analog and tell me how it goes [03:38] if it works for u then maybe i'll buy a dvico #5 [03:39] oh man, i have abc-hd [03:39] oh snap! ol [03:39] u think i could use one of those old ant. they used on analog to cature HD? [03:39] not exactly smooth, but im just getting started [03:40] get an external HD reciever [03:40] i have 9.00 rabbit ears from Menards [03:40] i heard those externals PULL channels [03:42] i have an estimate in to get a roof antenna [03:42] use the tax return? [03:42] lol [03:42] i saw some small ones you can mount right out a window for fairly cheap [03:42] u gonna try analog? [03:42] plz lol [03:43] my mythfrontend is using all the cpu ive got. [03:43] very choppy video [03:43] do u have audio w/ the HD? [03:43] yes [03:43] hmm [03:43] can you try analog plz [03:43] choppy video though. [03:43] i may get a dvico #5 [03:43] yeah [03:43] what CPU u have? [03:44] my machine is a p4, 3G with 2 g of ram, thought it would be able to hang [03:44] yeah it should [03:44] i'm running a p4 2.2ghz [03:44] limit your audio sampling [03:44] i forget where its at [03:45] but as long as you keep it above like 4.1khz... 4100hz the human ear wont notice [03:45] could prolly even drop it below that [03:46] given the abuse i gave my ears in highschool w/ bass lol [03:46] prolly wont notice much at the lowest setting [03:47] i see it on the capture card setup, but i only have two choices, 32k or 44k [03:47] DUDE i'm pullin HD too [03:47] but thats on teh analog options [03:47] try 32 see how it does [03:47] o [03:48] how did you route your audio? [03:48] i need help w/ that if you can man [03:48] do you have spdif connection on your sound card? the digital finer link [03:48] i dunno what that means lol [03:49] i have that thing that connects from the capture to the sound [03:49] do you have a fiber optic connection on your sound card, its a wird plug that snaps in [03:49] its plugged into the TAD [03:49] yeah [03:49] where do i have to plug it in to [03:49] i have that running to a denon av receiver [03:50] so im exporting my sound [03:50] oo [03:50] so if u pause the video does the sound keep streaming? [03:50] could you run your output out one jack and then back in the mic input? [03:50] my video is too choppy [03:50] try analog [03:50] tell me how well it works? lol [03:50] im not sure how to setup analog [03:51] just do the analog tuner w/ the schedules direct source [03:51] its pretty cake [03:51] i need to setup that lineup, i deleted all the analog stations [03:52] ooo [03:53] i may need to change my tv input, i am using vga, which is like 1280 x sth resoluiotn, maybe the hd is being scaled (the high cpu). i have an hdmi input i can try [03:53] yeah [03:53] so i should have to capture cards setup, one for hd channels and another for analog? from the same physical card? [03:53] i have DVI out to my monitor and Svid cloned to my CRT tv [03:53] i think so [03:54] i think i have a lockup. no activity when selecting new capture card [03:55] im going to reboot and try the hdmi input [03:56] back in a minute [04:09] jesse: well, the frontend is using a lot less cpu with the hdmi, but i also have no output [04:09] since i had a lockup, im going to make sure my last settings were saved [04:11] hmm [04:11] alright [04:11] mne locked up too.. now my tv tuner isnt working :-\ [04:13] i have some overscan with the hdmi input. on the right and left i lose about 5% of the screen, enought to not see some of the setup. is it possible to "crop" or hardcode a factor in the ui to ge tthis back? [04:15] i dunno [04:16] great, so much for ubuntus unbreakable X, now its pulling down 100% cpu [04:16] damn put in some high-res icons for my hd channels now, looks good [04:17] lol [04:17] can you pause your video tho? [04:17] what resolution are you running your hd at? [04:17] i dunno yet, not stable yet [04:17] right now i'm not [04:17] i cant get anything to work [04:17] i had to kill power to it [04:17] anyone know how to change the order of the channels? i have the channels in order in mythweb but while "zaping" around they are not in numerical order [04:17] now tuner doesnt work [04:18] i dont have a remote configured, so im not sure how to pauise with the keyboard [04:18] p [04:18] does your audio continue to play? [04:18] cant tel yet, im doing another reboot [04:19] i may need to go back to vga input [04:20] hey is there a way to flush the program guide data and download a fresh copy? [04:21] i know it does it on its own every so often [04:21] dunno how to force it [04:23] bummer the cable company changed the cable lineup and i noticed its updated on the schedules direct site but my box still has outdated channel line up [04:23] i think my router is blocking schedules [04:23] :( [04:23] any chance u know what ports it uses? [04:24] nope [04:25] i wonder if the hdmi input could be drm'd up and be blocking hte hd into the tv. worked on vga, just not into hdmi [04:28] dunno man [04:31] going back to vga input [04:31] this sound thing is pissing me off big time lol [04:32] crap, had he antenna lead off [04:32] ;P [04:32] lol [04:32] mythfilldatabase --refresh-today should tell you something jesse [04:32] are you going to use this with a stereo at all? [04:32] or pc speakers jesse? [04:33] i cant get audio out period [04:33] unless i plug it directly into my aux [04:33] but the aux is fed straight out to speakers [04:33] no way to record it [04:34] did you get a book with your card, there is some stuff in mine about "direct to dma" audio [04:35] ok, even with the antenna connected, nothing on hdmi. i know the mpaa has sth to do with this [04:35] wheres my tin foil hat [04:36] lol [04:39] frick [04:41] jesse: when ipause, the sound pauses as well. it appears to be in sync [04:41] fuck balls! [04:41] lol [04:42] why wont mine :( [04:42] do you have that audio cable connect to anything inside the pc? [04:42] what in the heck is process apport [04:42] looks like mythfrontend crashed [04:42] is there a cable that connects from the tv tuner to anything? [04:43] i did connect the capture card to the cd-in jumper on the motherboard [04:44] hmm [04:44] maybe thats my prob.. mines connect to the TAD on my sound card [04:44] my sound card doesnt have a CD in.. only TAD and Aux [04:44] maybe i should try to connect directly to my motherboard? [04:46] the cd-in will be on the moptherboard [04:46] i had to look for the manual to find it [04:48] in windows it works w/o it tho ? [04:48] i dont have windows [04:48] well in my windows it will work w/o being connect to the motherboard and i dunno why [04:50] oh shit man!!!! [04:50] IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [04:50] i somehow got it to port the audio thru the pci bus [04:50] dunno what i did but by god it works [04:50] !!!! [04:51] THANK YOU JESUS [04:51] lol [04:51] I think i'm going to install full blown ubuntu tho [04:51] then run myth on that [04:51] ive been tweaking the playback settings and have the cpu usage down. [04:53] kool [04:53] hd looking alright? [04:53] wonder if i need to deinterlace on an lcd hdtv? [04:54] looks better, almost fluid. not quite as smooteh as id like. there is a live feed from the kennedy center on, good material for testing [04:54] hmm [04:54] kool [04:56] well, good luck with your rig [04:56] gonna run [04:57] fuck [05:01] how canb the channel lineup still be wrong if it is correct on schedules direct [05:05] it hasnt updated to your pc yet [05:05] prolly had an error in it when your machine uploaded it [05:06] then they corrected but your machine has yet to download the corrected version [05:06] i manually ran a mythfilldatabase --refresh-all and it pulled down all new data [05:09] has anyonr gotten sirius online to play thru mythtv? i followed this wikki and when i click on the sirius button it dumps the myth box back to the desktop http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Integrate_Sirius [05:26] if you listen to stern, I record it daily to vorbis, I'll let you in my private stash [05:28] i lovr stern. listen to him every morning going to work [06:50] hi [06:59] how do i get icons in? [09:40] Hi all [09:40] I've got a little problem getting mythbuntu to run on my rig [09:40] It just hangs at "running local root script (/etc/rc.local) [09:41] anyone had that problem before? [09:42] it's a P4 2.8, ATI Radeon 9600, 256MB RAM btw [09:42] with a SATA hard disk [13:54] need help [13:54] before I file a bug [15:08] is there a way to find out what resoution the live TV is running at? [18:09] maybe, I have found via tivo that there are several resolutions that things are broadcasted in. I can have tivo set at High Recording for several channels and get several different resolutions from the recorded files. As I understand it you have 1080i 1080p 480i and 480p and I am not too sure where NTSC and PAL fit into it. [18:12] hope that helps [18:41] Seeker`: if you check under setup, tv, recording profiles [18:42] then chose your recorder and live tv [18:42] you can set it under there [18:46] need some assistance with myth-backend [18:46] !ask [18:46] Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-) [18:53] that was a statement, but anyway [18:53] still applies [18:53] ask your question so people can see it [18:53] the myth-backend is telling me I don't have permissions, my record folder does not exists [18:53] all erroneous [18:54] does a recordings folder exist with permissions for the user running myth-backend to write to? [18:54] and then it dies. I can run it by itself from term, and it stays running, but the script dies, mentioning the non-existant nfslock fike? [18:55] rhpot1991, yes [18:55] I moved it from the default location, because of hd space [18:55] and you are sure you changed the location in mythtv-setup? [18:56] google reveals others have resolved the issue simply deleting the nfs lock fle [18:56] positive [18:56] thats why when it said the directory does not exist, I'm looking at it [18:57] with the same files it recorded to, when run from term [18:57] I can't find a bug for it, and did not want to file until sure it is not user error [18:58] Permission denied Unable to open lockfile!, the file is long gone [18:58] :( [18:58] * blkorpheus weeping [18:59] :-P [18:59] is myhth keeping old data somewhere? [18:59] what if you make a new empty lock file? [18:59] tried that [18:59] no dice [19:00] same errrot [19:00] error [19:00] not really sure [19:00] checked the user mailing list? [19:00] only what google came back with [19:00] some guy had the same issue, and they just glossed over it [19:01] also on the ubuntu forums, for mythbuntu project, another with the issue, and no resolve for me [19:01] I even renamed the folder [19:01] I fixed that with the INFAMOUS sudo chmod -R 777 /directory trick [19:01] I'd hate to put it backto default [19:01] it was the only way I could do it [19:01] did that [19:02] did you restart? [19:02] mythtv is the owner and group for everything related [19:02] -R [19:02] its driving me up a wall [19:03] you are using mythbuntu? [19:04] who is autologging in to the system, mythtv or your user [19:04] my user is logging into mine [19:05] its a ubuntu box I installed mythtv on [19:05] my user logs in [19:06] I can only run myth with sudo or root running mythbackend [19:06] I'd like to stop doing it that way [19:06] that shouldn't happen [19:06] when you say myth you mean the back or frontend? [19:07] but just now, I started mythbackend via root, and the backend runs flawless. It creates a new nfslock file with root permissions on it, but see the record folder fine, and works as supposed. [19:07] backend [19:07] you should be staring myth with sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start [19:07] of course [19:07] thats why I'm upset [19:07] it will also automagically start like that on boot [19:08] the script starts, then dies, talking about permissions etc [19:08] I understand how its supposed to work, but it is not [19:11] remember it all depends on who created the directories [19:12] root should have access though, unless you really did something funky [19:13] changed it back to the default directory, the script starts and the backend does not fail [19:13] ah dios mio [19:14] new nfslockfile.lock but wth mythtv user and group 644? [19:17] octal permissions 2775 [19:31] thats why you have to be sudo to do it === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh [20:28] I have used vnc (read vino) to connect one computer running gnome to another. I am not sure how to set anything up though when running gnome on one computer and mythbuntu on the other. I have enabled vnc in the mythbuntu set up but thats all I have. [20:29] I normally install vnc4server [20:30] im not sure what enabling vnc on the mythubuntu setup does actually. Never tried that. [20:30] watching videos over vnc.. is not doable I am thinking. [20:33] I just want to be able to use it when I need to move files around and that kind of thing. I just need a basic gui but no video support [20:37] I would say install a light window manager. or use whatever the default is.. ssh in, start 'vnc4server' connect with any vnc client. do what you want.. [20:37] No need to use vino/gnome. [20:37] Or use mc in the terminal for a nice file manager if you dont like the cli commands. [20:38] i normally have a vncserver session going - so i can connect to the box's and do things. :) [20:38] its best to use a very light window manager for vnc. I use jwm. [20:38] is there a how to on that some where you could link me to? I know nothing about ssh [20:38] ssh is documented at 100000000000000's of web sites [20:39] ssh remotebox [20:39] get a shell.. there ya go. :) [20:39] run vnc4server if you want, or mc, or do the file managing from the shell. [20:39] You have to install the sshd server package, its not installed by default [20:39] !find ssh [20:39] Found: aolserver4-nssha1, autossh, clusterssh, crosshurd, dpsyco-ssh (and 28 others) [20:40] !find sshd [20:40] File sshd found in apparmor-profiles, gradm, logwatch, openssh-server [20:42] it's that last one [20:42] openssh-server [20:43] openssh-server is installed [20:43] Yep. I never can rember the name. :) [20:43] install vnc4server [20:44] then run it.. it will make a .vnc/xstartup file. Kill vnc4server with vncserver --kill:1 edit xstartup as you like.. rerun the server. connect with any client. :) [20:44] for some ODD reason I think the default xstartup still tries to run 'twm' which is not instaled by default. [20:48] doh.. its vncserver -kill:1 using 2 -- will makeit spawn yet another vnc session [20:50] ok it said it created a startup script when I ran the set up. so to connect would I just type vncviewer media-center:1 [20:53] Yep. [20:53] You might want to tweak the xstartup script however. [20:53] nice move to release alpha 3 ubuntu in time for kde4 releases [20:53] kde4 is not running good for me under vnc. :) i gotta go to the basement and try it out soon [20:55] ok I got an error unable to connect to host: No route to host (113) [20:55] can you ping the machine? [20:56] You may need to use its ip# not the host name.. Unless your hosts file is set up properly [20:56] you also may want to check the vnc logs. Just in case it did try to run twm, which wasent there. [20:57] Going to the Basement.. be back in a few. [21:03] There we go. [21:05] ok it helps to have the network cable plugged in all the way. I am getting a unable to connect to host: No route to host (113) I need to put in the password. Where do I do that? [21:09] ok I am not sure what I did but it gave my a pop up password box. I think something was messed up. I am going to restart and see if that fixes. [21:10] the vncviewer should pop up a dialog asking [21:10] check your xstartup file and the vncserver logs also (in the .vnc dir) [21:20] ok now it is not taking my password. what file is the passowrd saved in or how can I change it? [21:22] vncpasswd [21:23] the passwprd is stored in .vnc/passwd it seems [21:25] ok I logged in again and I get a almost blank screen http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/4373/screenshotxe8.png [21:26] Did you set up the xstartup to run somthing other then twm? Check the vncserver logs in .vnc? [21:28] ok mythbuntu seems to have no program that can read a .log what program should I be using to veiw them? [21:29] its a text file.. [21:29] like 99% of all logs and config files. :) [21:30] more whatever.log [21:30] I have used .logs with ubuntu. [21:31] check the xstartup file also. see what its running. [21:39] I am still trying to figure out a program in mythbuntu that will open these. [21:40] they are text files. use any text editor. or the more command. [21:41] Install your fave editor if you want. [21:41] or use the cat command from a terminal if you want. [21:46] ok this might be a problem in the xstartup it has the entry xsetroot -solid grey [21:57] look below that line and see what window manager its running. [21:58] if its running twm and twm is not installed then you wont have a window manager, or muchof a desktop [21:58] if it Is running twm. and you have twm.. well.. twm is so minimal.. its hard to get used to. [22:00] xsetroot -solid grey is just setting a solid grey color wallpaper. [22:02] hmm I wonder what it could be then. at the top of that file it says uncomment the following lines for a normal desktop I did that and I get a screen that is totally blank. [22:03] my standard xstartup is like the following.. 3 lines total. [22:03] xsetroot -solid grey & [22:03] xterm & [22:03] jwm [22:04] i have installed jwm. and that is the widnow manager i am using for vnc. [22:04] I dont know what exact lines are in your config file. [22:04] i DONT uncomment the 2 lines they mention at the top. That makes the vncserver spawn your default desktop (i think) [22:05] When you make changes to the xstartup file. Your eally should kill the currently running vncserver and restart it. just changing the file does not affect any running servers [22:11] I killed it. I still have a blank screen. it is kind of a cross hatch look. could it be a color setting? [22:13] thats what the xsetroot command removes. [22:13] if you uncommented the first 2 lines.. the lines after those - i dont think EVER get read. [22:13] # exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc - will reroute to xinitrc, anything past that line is ignored. [22:14] and i got no idea if using xinitrc is a good idea or not. [22:14] all xinitrc does is run --> . /etc/X11/Xsession [22:16] From here.. uncommenting those lines.. makes nothing run. So i would say comment them back. and manually confuigure what you want ran. [22:19] ok what do I need to do to manually configure it? [22:19] Make it run the winow manager you want to run. [22:19] like the example i gave above. [22:20] sudo apt-get install jwm [22:20] then set the last line to be 'exec jwm' or just 'jwm' instead of twm. [22:24] what is the trick to connecting to a remote backend? I have mythbuntu running the frontend and backend i installed mythtv on my gutsy box used the address of the mythtv box and password but when i start the mythtv frontend on gutsy it won't connect to the mythbuntu box [22:26] well i think for one. You beed to ahve the proper ip# in the mythtv-setup [22:27] i did 192.168.1.10 [22:27] when i start mythtv from a shell it's not connecting to the data base [22:27] Im going from memory here.. so i may be wrojkg. but theres 2 places for the ip#. one is 127.0.0.1 i thoight. that needs to be change4d for the frontendsd to see it. [22:28] QMYSQL3: Unable to connect [22:28] Database error was: [22:28] Can't connect to MySQL server on '192.168.1.10' (111) [22:28] That sounds like your mysql password may be wrong. [22:29] ok that worked. I am not a big fan of that though. Is there any way to let it use xfce? [22:29] MythbuntuGuest79, instead of 'exec jwm' or whatever.. make it load whatever starts up xfce [22:29] hello [22:29] well i did change it to match the one used on the mythtv backend server thru the mythtv frontend on the gutsy box [22:30] which seems to be the startxfce4 command. :) [22:30] QSqlQuery::exec: database not open [22:30] QSqlQuery::exec: database not open [22:30] 2008-01-11 17:25:59.250 DB Error (KickDatabase): [22:30] Query was: [22:30] SELECT NULL; [22:30] No error type from QSqlError? Strange... [22:30] 2008-01-11 17:26:01.728 Unable to connect to database! [22:30] 2008-01-11 17:26:01.728 Driver error was [1/2003]: [22:30] QMYSQL3: Unable to connect [22:30] Database error was: [22:30] Can't connect to MySQL server on '192.168.1.10' (111) [22:31] do i have to forwrd any ports on the router? I don't think i have to cause it's all local traffic [22:32] There may be some mysql settings to allow other machines to access it. [22:32] Is there a standard command for xfce4? How do I figure that out? [22:32] I suck at MySQL. [22:32] yeah i checked that in the mcc control panel [22:32] MythbuntuGuest78, ---------> which seems to be the startxfce4 command. :) [22:32] MythbuntuGuest79, ---------> which seems to be the startxfce4 command. :) [22:32] :) [22:33] ? [22:33] * Dr_willis_ tells the various people that the command /nick PickANewNick - will change your Nickname to smmthing a bit more readable. === MythbuntuGuest78 is now known as Simminator [22:34] The command to start the default xfce desktop is 'startxfce4' [22:34] :) [22:34] i have a couple of questions [22:35] i downloaded the latest release of mythbuntu and am trying to run the install on a box i built [22:35] i used sudo apt-get install mythtv on the gusty box [22:35] the installer hits the point of realizing LIRC (i dont know what LIRC is) and says its not configured [22:37] well i have the latest release of ubuntu installed on a different drive and it runs mythtv just fine [22:37] so i know that the box is capable of running ubuntu and mythtv, but i wanted to see if i could get mythbuntu running [22:38] I just normally intall Mythubuntu, then install whatever other parts of ubuntu i want. [22:39] thats just my problem [22:39] I think on this box i installed mythubuntu, then isntalled ubuntu-desktop. and kubuntu-desktop [22:39] i cant get mythbuntu installed [22:39] on the Frontend box. I just used mythubuntu, and followed its little wizard I think. [22:40] ok I cahnged jwm to startxfce4 and It gives me terminal session with no window borders or anything. [22:41] ok [22:46] looks like startxfce4 tries to spawn a new X session.. odd for it to do things that way [22:48] guess you could run xfwm4 & and xfce4-panel from the xstartup file [22:50] so I should change startxfce4 to xfwm4 & and xfce4-panel ? === MythbuntuGuest75 is now known as Xenocide [22:52] hey guys can anyone help me in setting up a remote wonder Ii remote [22:53] MythbuntuGuest79, thats one way. you may want to run some other xfce related tools also. Be sure to use & after all but the last one, which should be starting the panel or window manager. [22:57] what kind of tools? This is my first run with xfce4. I changed jwm to xfce4-panel and that almost worked. I had my applications bar up top but none of the programs would launch. adding xfwm4 to that made the caused tha app bar to not show up. [23:06] the panel is one tool. the window maanger itself is another tool. I dont use xfce, so not sure what else should be ran [23:09] it looke like the startxfce4 script eventually runs /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc You could just try running /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc from your xstartup [23:10] do i have to something else to the remote backend? [23:10] QMYSQL3: Unable to connect [23:10] Database error was: [23:10] Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'192.168.1.151' (using password: YES) [23:21] Thanks Dr willis I got it working. [23:21] MythbuntuGuest79, the last part of the /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc , has about 4 commands that seems to be ran for a normal xfce desktop. [23:22] You cant run the acript directly however. - i copied it to a differ file. and edited out all the cruft. [23:23] xfce-mcs-manager & xfwm4 --daemon & xfdesktop & and xfce4-panel - seem togive a full Xfce desktop