[00:02] <elkbuntu> PreZLaptop, i take it you're not a friendly neighbourhood romneybot?
[00:17] <Tm_T> tsadaaaaam
[00:18]  * Tm_T hugs elkbuntu 
[00:26] <Pici> gnomefreak!
[00:29] <nalioth> darn it, i knew we should have changed the locks...
[00:29] <nalioth> hi gnomefreak  :)
[00:36] <LjL> hello chuy
[00:38] <chuy_max> LjL, hi
[00:38] <chuy_max> why am I being banned?
[00:38] <LjL> i think you know why chuy
[00:39] <chuy_max> nope
[00:39] <Pici> wow... just wow.
[00:39] <chuy_max> I just connected
[00:39] <chuy_max> can you just tell me so I don't do it anymore?
[00:40] <LjL> chuy_max, everything is possible, but some things are probabilistically very, very unlikely
[00:40] <Pici> What was the last thing you remember doing on #ubuntu/related channels?
[00:41] <chuy_max> maybe asking/answering something?
[00:42] <chuy_max> I don't remember doing anything wrong
[00:42] <Pici> Give me us a moment please.
[00:42] <chuy_max> ok
[00:56] <LjL> chuy_max, can you leave this channel for a minute? i'll invite you back, but we need to discuss something briefly
[00:57] <chuy_max> ok
[00:57] <Pici> So.
[00:58] <stdin>  BraWearerGuy38B (n=9435@62.42.4.194.dyn.user.ono.com) is back again
[00:58] <Pici> I thought that they were the same person, but I'm not so sure now.
[00:58] <LjL> we need to know if "our" chuy, the one who was banned, was identified to services
[00:58] <LjL> anybody has a whois in the logs?
[00:58] <LjL> or capab identify-msg?
[00:59] <nalioth> LjL: chuy_max was indeed identified
[00:59] <nalioth> oh, our troll chuy
[01:00]  * nalioth has no clue  :(
[01:00] <Pici> I think he was identified as FullMon-t
[01:01] <Pici> Although, grepping for fullmon-t gives completely different behavior than chuy exhibited.
[01:01] <LjL> Pici: well but it *is* definitely the same person... i have a NICK command
[01:01] <LjL> he changed from fullmon-t to chuy
[01:02] <LjL> last seen quit msg: "/ pici"
[01:02] <Pici> Hostmasks are different, but if he was using a proxy like he threatened, it very well could be him.
[01:03] <Pici> Not that this really helps us with the chuy / chuy_max situation
[01:04] <nalioth> holy moly
[01:04] <nalioth> you guys are linking chuy with chuy_max ?
[01:04] <nalioth> let the poor guy in
[01:04]  * nalioth shakes his head
[01:04] <Pici> nalioth: you know him?
[01:04] <Pici> Well, I take that as you do.
[01:05] <nalioth> no, but suspicion over a similar nick is not cool
[01:05] <LjL> nalioth: well, same ident
[01:05] <nalioth> chuy has not identified in 9 weeks
[01:06] <LjL> nalioth: but chuy *is* chuy_max (to nickserv)
[01:06] <LjL> both *.mx
[01:06] <nalioth> lots of people have the same ident
[01:06] <Pici> I suppose if it was the same fellow, he would have not created fullmon-t to talk to us with.
[01:06] <nalioth> LjL: i just /ns info'd both.
[01:06] <nalioth> they are not linked
[01:06] <LjL> nalioth: no, but they're quite clearly the same user... same ISP, same ident, come on - same user. but they might not be the same user as "our" chuy, who is n=chuy@72.178.63.126
[01:07] <Pici> same isp?
[01:07] <Pici> Lets just ban on 72.178.63.126, let chuy_max in and just keep an eye on things.
[01:08] <Pici> How does that sound?
[01:09] <LjL> Pici: it sounds ok
[01:11] <chuy_max> hi
[01:11] <Pici> chuy_max: Thanks for being patient.
[01:11] <LjL> chuy_max: the issue here is that your name resembles very much the name of someone who is banned. i hope it's not really you, but we believe it's not - so apologies for the inconvenience, and you can now join #ubuntu
[01:11] <Pici> s/banned/caused a big scene and was banned/
[01:12] <chuy_max> I was thinking something like that happened, Chuy is a pretty popular nick for Iesus in hispanic countries
[01:12] <chuy_max> Jesus
[01:12] <Pici> Interesting... to me it was extremely uncommon.
[01:12] <LjL> chuy_max: good to know. you should probably link your current nickname to "chuy" (that nickname is also yours, is it not?)
[01:13] <chuy_max> I didn't register that nick
[01:14] <LjL> chuy_max: it was last used 9 weeks ago, if you want you can ask freenode staff to release it to you
[01:14] <Pici> LjL: Like he said, its a common nickname /shrug
[01:15] <LjL> Pici: (err yeah but same isp...)
[01:15] <Pici> LjL: .mx...
[01:15] <chuy_max> ok, I will ask one :)
[01:15] <Pici> gnomefreak: !
[01:15] <gnomefreak> :)
[01:15] <LjL> hey gnome
[01:16] <Pici> Welcome back.
[01:16] <LjL> chuy_max: meanwhile anyway, check if you can join #ubuntu now, you should
[01:16] <LjL> cool
[01:16] <gnomefreak> hi everyone im back for atleast the time being. had major surgery and still recovering
[01:16] <Pici> We heard, I hope you're not still in a lot of pain.
[01:16] <LjL> gnomefreak: hope it's all well insomuch as it can be
[01:16] <gnomefreak> a bit still
[01:30] <Pici> !idle | chuy_max :)
[01:30] <ubotu> chuy_max :): Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.
[01:30] <chuy_max> ok
[01:30] <chuy_max> good bye :)
[01:30] <Pici> Byas
[02:10] <ubotu> Pelo called the ops in #ubuntu (twavisdegwet)
[02:29] <nalioth> Pici: #freenode IS a support channel
[02:29] <Pici> nalioth: see my correction.
[02:29] <nalioth> Pici: we answer all help questions (not just network related0
[02:29] <Pici> nalioth: Oh, I'm sorry.
[02:30] <nalioth> we've had questions on how to install tile floors
[02:30] <nalioth> and frame up new construction
[02:31] <Pici> Sorry, whenever I've been in there people seem to herd people out who dont ask network support questions.. although I'm not sure if those people were staffers or not.
[02:31]  * Pici now knows
[02:34] <nalioth> there is a sinister troll who lies in wait and speaks falsehoods
[02:34] <tonyyarusso> I thought random help was more #defocus's thing, but I apparently was mistaken as well.
[02:35] <nalioth> #defocus = controlled chaos
[02:35] <stdin> controlled?
[02:35] <nalioth> #freenode used to be #help / ##anything and we continue to help with anything
[02:35] <nalioth> stdin: if you want uncontrolled chaos, join #politics
[02:36] <stdin> nah, my highlights would go off every second in there
[02:36] <tonyyarusso> Now, here's something that's always confused me - what's the difference between #politics and ##politics?
[02:36] <LjL> nalioth: but you always had a #freenode or ##freenode, didn't you
[02:36] <nalioth> #politics is "no holds barred" and ##politics is moderated
[02:36] <nalioth> LjL: ##freenode doesn't exist or is inhabited by trolls
[02:37] <LjL> nalioth: i mean before the change, and i said "or" because i don't remember which one it was
[02:37] <tonyyarusso> aah
[02:39] <LjL> nalioth: weird naming though (for politics) ;)
[02:40] <Pici> Perhaps intended, so the unwashed masses go to the unmoderated channel
[02:41] <tonyyarusso> fair point
[02:42] <nalioth> LjL: at one time, #freenode was what #defocus is now
[02:42] <nalioth> way long ago
[02:43] <LjL> well i've been around since more than two years, depends what you mean by way ago
[02:43] <nalioth> more than 3 or 4 years back
[02:45] <LjL> ah i'm probably thinking of #freenode-social
[02:46] <Pici> hrm, what do you think of soshite's name in #ubuntu, its setting off my hilights.
[02:46] <nalioth> i think actions speak louder than nicks
[02:46] <Pici> I had a feeling you'd say something like that.
[02:47] <Pici> :)
[02:47] <LjL> erm, the actions being "being offtopic"
[02:48] <jdong> nicks and stones can break my bones....
[02:49] <tonyyarusso> Pici: certainly not new regardless :P
[02:51] <Pici> LjL: to be honest I didnt even read what they were talking about.
[02:52] <LjL> Pici: electricity stuff
[02:53] <LjL> nickspoon can break my bones
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry guys.. I know better...
[03:05] <LjL> Jack_Sparrow: answering an ot question is hardly the end of the world
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[03:08] <nalioth> just answer it an then tell the requestor to continue your chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed...  I really thought it would be a one line end of discussion thing...  Then it dragged out and we ended up in ot anyhow.. but I will be more careful
[03:10] <Pici> Stop being so hard on yourself
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> I am really tired...  the new grandkid seems to spend more time here than at their house...  :)
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Where did I put the duct tape...   ummmmm...
[03:12] <nalioth> Jack_Sparrow: next to the velcro
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> velcro sheet... every parents dream
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> take care guys...    cya tomorrow
[03:14] <LjL> yikes... i was smoking now, missed him
[03:14] <LjL> must be careful with calling some people offtopic :)
[03:15] <LjL> when he comes back explain to him that i'd be offtopic half of the time if it weren't for the fact that i know that most of you would not call !ot on me (though you should) when i am
[03:15] <LjL> night
[03:16] <Pici> goodnight
[03:20] <Pici> back already?
[03:20] <ardchoille> That was a quick catnap
[03:57] <ubotu> In #ubuntuforums-beginners, ajmorris said: !botabuse is fun
[04:10] <tonyyarusso> Time from question asked to first totally jerkface response in #fedora: 51 seconds.
[04:11] <nalioth> shouldn't tease the trolls, tonyyarusso
[04:12] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: I have a real, Fedora-related question!
[04:12] <tritium> tonyyarusso: what?!?!?!?
[04:12] <tonyyarusso> The server at school (where I just started a work-study position) got hosed by a power outage and I wanted to see if there was anything we can do other than reinstall.
[04:12] <tonyyarusso> That particular server happens to be running Fedora.
[04:13] <elkbuntu> hosed is a fairly broad term
[04:14] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: My school has this server running Fedora 4.  It experienced a power outage a few days ago.  Symptoms discovered so far are that a) While Firefox can access pages on the internet, wget, yum, and elinks all can not (in yum's case, meaning any usage of yum is impossible, so the system is in pretty sad shape from that), and b) the mysqld init script is missing without a trace.
[04:14] <tonyyarusso> 'tis the description
[04:16] <elkbuntu> is there no RH version of dpkg?
[04:18] <nalioth> elkbuntu: there is, but it doesn't work real well in maintaining fedorea
[04:18] <nalioth> sort of like rpm exists for us, but we hardly ever use it
[04:18] <elkbuntu> s/version/alternative/
[04:18] <elkbuntu> so like dpkg is to apt, ??? is to yum
[04:19] <nalioth> elkbuntu: rpm is to yum as dpkg is to apt
[04:19] <elkbuntu> ah
[04:20] <elkbuntu> i did actually know that... i think this heat is killing me slowly
[04:21]  * elkbuntu is going to go waste $2 on a cheap thermometer so she knows how hot it actually is in here
[04:21] <elkbuntu> outside, it's 37
[04:21] <elkbuntu> but it feels cooler out there
 anyone willing to test my dcc send speed cap? need a good connection pls.. <file> ~BSG Razor(movie)  < hmm.
[04:22] <nalioth> stdin: it's not illegal to tape television programs
[04:23] <stdin> nalioth: is it illegal to then distribute copyrighted content?
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> distribution is different than taping for own use usually
[04:23] <nalioth> i'd say it's off topic because file trading is off topic
[04:23] <elkbuntu> in some parts
[04:24] <elkbuntu> oh great, my life gets better... my sunnies just fell apart
[04:24] <nalioth> sunnies?
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> fish?
[04:24] <elkbuntu> sunglasses
[04:24] <nalioth> ah
[04:24] <ardchoille> elkbuntu: At least you can remember where youput them
[04:26] <tonyyarusso> oh
[04:58] <Amaranth> !opsnack
[04:58] <ubotu> Chocolate!  And Peanuts!
[06:26] <elkbuntu> !usersnack
[06:26] <ubotu> Are peanut husks ok? The ops ate the chocolates and peanuts already...
[06:26] <jussi01> !botsnack
[06:26] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[06:35] <ardchoille> I think our bot may have an obsession with food
[06:40] <stdin> what do you mean?
[06:47] <ardchoille> All the snacks :)
[06:49] <stdin> everyone/everybot likes snacks :)
[06:49] <jussi01> !opsnack > stdin
[06:49] <stdin> heh, got 2 snacks then
[06:49] <stdin> from ubotu and Ubotwo
[06:50] <jussi01> lol
[06:55] <Jucato> jussi01: congrats btw
[07:05] <jussi01> Jucato: thanks :)
[08:47] <Seeker`> morning
[09:41] <ubotu> dgjones called the ops in #ubuntu (ameet (paste))
[09:42] <stdin> reop floodbot1 ?
[11:59] <PriceChild> Hobbsee, you'll never guess what happenned....
[12:00] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: oh?
[12:00] <PriceChild> See planet.
[12:00] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: \sh?
[12:00] <PriceChild> yup
[12:00] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, theunixgeek said: !ops niceM is either a bot or a troll
[12:01] <theunixgeek> Please help in #ubuntu. niceM is either a bot or a troll.
[12:02] <Tm_T> PriceChild: mmmm, I was so about to do it :-P
[12:02] <Jack_Sparrow> nicem is a bot
[12:02] <theunixgeek> Jack_Sparrow: really?
[12:03] <theunixgeek> who controls him?
[12:03] <theunixgeek> it
[12:03] <theunixgeek> :S
[12:03] <Jack_Sparrow> None of us...
[12:03] <PriceChild> theunixgeek, best to give benefit of the doubt
[12:03] <theunixgeek> all I know is he's a finnish bot by his IP : http://samspade.org/whois/84.248.28.137
[12:03] <PriceChild> Uuuu last exam today... then kde 4.0 is released so might as well install hardy and play
[12:04] <theunixgeek> eee 4.0 is finished! :D
[12:28] <ubotu> In #kubuntu-devel, stdin said: !no kde4 is <reply> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. - KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php
[12:28] <Jucato> :D
[12:29] <Jucato> !no kde4 is <reply> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. - KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php
[12:29] <ubotu> I'll remember that Jucato
[12:29] <Seveas> !kde4 is broken
[12:29] <ubotu> But kde4 already means something else!
[12:29] <Pici> hehe
[12:29] <Seveas> not really
[12:29] <Jucato> hahah :)
[12:29] <Seveas> :)
[12:30] <stdin> there is a !brokenkde4 actually :)
[12:33] <ce_17taon> server mesra.dal.net
[12:34] <Pici> I'm starting to think that 125.164.236.93 is just someone who doesnt know how to use their irc client.
[12:35] <stdin> they're ban forwarded to here for nickspam IIRC
[12:35] <PriceChild> i think it was more than that
[12:54] <elkbuntu> Pici, they dont respond when spoken to though
[12:54] <elkbuntu> !staff | ^^ see above
[12:54] <ubotu> ^^ see above: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2 or Christel,  I could use a bit of your time :)
[12:55] <Pici> Whatever they are... its not normal.
[12:56] <elkbuntu> Pici, agreed
[14:24] <jpatrick> LjL: -> #ubuntu-youth
[14:24] <LjL> what's going on? i left because my proxy crashed tonight...
[14:25] <jpatrick> LjL: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3476/
[14:25] <jpatrick> I think I should kick
[14:26] <Pici> yes.
[14:26] <LjL> jpatrick, you're an operator, you decide if you should kick.
[14:26] <jpatrick> man, he left
[14:53] <Seveas> jpatrick, so do you? :)
[14:54] <Seveas> hi :)
[14:54] <Hobbsee> :)
[14:54] <Hobbsee> how goes it?
[14:54] <Seveas> Hobbsee, I need no hot sisters, I have you :)
[14:54] <Hobbsee> Seveas: and elkbuntu
[14:54] <Seveas> (expects another kick)
[14:54] <Hobbsee> just to make people jealous
[14:54] <Seveas> :)
[14:54] <Seveas> I'm good at making people jealous
[14:54]  * Hobbsee grins, remembering the airport
[14:55] <Seveas> last week a few colleagues of mine wanted me to join them to the pub
[14:55] <Seveas> so I call my fiancee saying I'll be late and why
[14:55] <Seveas> took 10 seconds
[14:55] <ikonia> little help please
[14:55] <ikonia> check out curs0r in #ubuntu
[14:55] <Seveas> then they stared at me and asked "how on earth..., I need to ask 2 days in advance"
[14:55] <Hobbsee> haha
[14:56] <Seveas> So I put my fiancee on speakerphone and se laughed really hard :)
[14:56] <Seveas> :)
[14:56] <Hobbsee> Seveas: so, you coming to UDS?
[14:58] <LjL> no free wifi, no party
[14:59]  * Seveas now has loads of free wifi
[14:59] <Seveas> my isp has a contract with the largest hotspot provider in nl since this week to allow every customer unlimited free wifi
[14:59] <ikonia> Seveas: thanks
[14:59] <Hobbsee> wow, nice!
[14:59] <Seveas> ikonia, np
[15:00] <Seveas> Hobbsee, yeah, best thing is: it covers 3 of the 4 trainstations from my trip from home to work :)
[15:00] <Hobbsee> heh :)
[15:00] <Seveas> and the 4th is 2 minutes from another one ;)
[15:01] <ikonia> Seveas: that is unheard of in the uk, fantastic poilcy from your guys
[15:01] <LjL> ikonia: that's what happens when upper management is on drugs all day
[15:02] <ikonia> I like it
[15:06] <Seveas> Of course it helps that my ISP is now owned by the same company that provides these access points ;)

 seriously, I'm considering another distribution as I think it's incredibly rude to answer help questions the way he did. Your volunteers should have to behave themselves at least as much as the users don't you think?
 then please make the switch. Ikonia was trying to help you but you were uncooperative and rude. things went downhill from there because both of you insisted the other was behaving wrong.
 suppose I was a new user to linux? Something like that could have driven me away for years if not forever.
 His answer was useless and condescending
 that's your interpretation
 And it's correct
 not at all
 his answer was useful and not at all condescending
 the way you reacted was quite bad
 As an intelligent person with manners, I disagree
 I see neither intelligence nor manners in your actions
[15:06] <Mez> !paste | Seveas
[15:06] <ubotu> Seveas: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)

[15:07] <Seveas> heh, more paste
 And fuck you too.
[15:07] <Pici> What was the answer that ikonia gave? or where abouts in my log should I look for it?
[15:07] <ikonia> paste paste paste
[15:07]  * Pici lastlogs
[15:08] <ikonia> Pici: he asked if a re-install would fix his issue, I said "I don't see why"
 You banned me from a channel for what I said in pm? How juvenile
 irc guidelines don't end at channel borders
 waa
 so until you grow manners and preferably some intelligence, goodbye
 Eat me stimpy
[15:08] <Seveas> it gets better
[15:08] <ikonia> please paste the full lot
[15:08]  * LjL brings floodbot in here
[15:08] <ikonia> he came in looking for a fight
[15:09] <Seveas> he did
[15:09] <Seveas> did the same on sept 27 last year
[15:09] <Seveas> https://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/bans.cgi?query=curs0r&kicks=on&oldbans=on&bans=on&oldmutes=on&mutes=on
[15:09] <Pici> Stimpy? Thats an insult now?
[15:09] <Seveas> apparently
[15:10] <Mez> Seveas, remember, IRC is a privilege, not a right, *hint hint*
[15:11] <Seveas> :)
[15:12] <elkbuntu> Mez, the whole damn internet is a privilege
[15:13] <Pici> ikonia: fyi, if you want, there is a nickserv option to allow unregistered users to message you.
[15:13] <Mez> You must be this intelligent to use the internet *picture of stick*
[15:13] <ikonia> Pici: I'd rather not, just to keep the noise down, but I didn't know you could do that
[15:13] <ikonia> Pici: thanks
[15:17] <ikonia> Seveas: I think your getting a complaint in #freenode ;)
[15:17] <Pici> 10:15:10 <Curs0r> how do I add a cloaked user to the ignore list? Say I want to ignore all ubuntu members (for example) would that be to use the cloak ubuntu/members as the domain to be ignored?
[15:17] <Pici> hah
[15:17] <Seveas> hahahahaha
[15:17] <ikonia> Pici: you beat me to it, is that in #freenode
[15:17] <Pici> ikonia: yep ;)
[15:18]  * elkbuntu ops up
[15:18] <ikonia> ironic that he wants to ignore all ubuntu members, yet the person he had a problem with isn't cloaked with ubuntu
[15:18] <Pici> you?
[15:18] <Pici> The S man is.
[15:19] <Seveas> his problem was with ikonia
[15:19] <Seveas> well, his real problem is somewhere else...
[15:19] <ikonia> agreed
[15:20] <ikonia> elkbuntu: good call
[15:29] <PriceChild> Woooooooo exams over.
[15:29] <Pici> Wooo
[15:29] <PriceChild> Lectures on Monday :D
[15:29] <PriceChild> oh wait :(
[15:40] <jpatrick> !kde4
[15:40] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. - KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/
[15:40] <jpatrick> ok
[15:42]  * Mez spins on his chair and makes himself feel sick
[15:44] <Pici> Are we supporting KDE4 in #ubuntu now?
[15:44] <PriceChild> No.
[15:44] <elkbuntu> no, +1
[15:44] <PriceChild> It isn't part of an ubuntu release in any way?
[15:44] <PriceChild> its part of the kubuntu team's ppas but that's it?
[15:45] <Pici> Well, +1 or #kubuntu?
[15:45] <jpatrick> PriceChild: in gutsy-backports too, still building some last few packages/mirrors updaing
[15:45] <PriceChild> jpatrick, ah right
[15:45] <PriceChild> i say #kubuntu then
[15:46] <Pici> Sounds good
[15:47] <ikonia> is the current 6.06 kubuntu build classed as LTS ?
[15:47] <jpatrick> yes
[15:47] <ikonia> someone was shouting about 8.04 not being LTS, any truth in that ?
[15:47] <PriceChild> ikonia, not for kubuntu, ubuntu wil be
[15:47] <PriceChild> *will
[15:47] <jpatrick> ikonia: it's _kubuntu_ hardy that won't be LTS
[15:48] <PriceChild> ikonia, explanations are probably still on planet
[15:48] <ikonia> that's what was being shouted about, I'd not read anything to say yay or nay
[15:48] <ikonia> PriceChild: I think it's reasonably self explanitory
[15:48] <ikonia> ;)
[15:49] <jpatrick> ikonia: http://tinyurl.com/32b8fs
[15:49] <ikonia> oh, thanks
[15:49] <jpatrick> what I wrote up from the meeting we had
[15:50] <ikonia> makes for an interesting read
[15:50] <jpatrick> you're welcome :)
[15:52] <ikonia> jpatrick: not the reasons I had in mind, but very sensible ones
[15:52] <jpatrick> ikonia: what reasons were those?
[15:53] <ikonia> the 3.5/4 stability supportability reasons, very sensible
[15:53] <jpatrick> no, the reasons you had in mind :)
[15:54] <ikonia> ahh, mine where just personal silly ones as I'm not a big kde fan / user
[15:54] <ikonia> eg: drop it because I don't like it
[15:54] <ikonia> I was just being facicious
[15:54] <jpatrick> hmm :)
[15:55] <ikonia> I meant drop kde because I don't like it, not "drop the topc"
[15:55] <ikonia> wasn't being rude
[15:55] <ikonia> topic
[16:07] <jpatrick> ;) no worries
[16:43] <LjL> sorry but there's only so much idiocy i can put up with
[16:44]  * Pici headdesks
[16:46] <Pici> I can't take it either.
[16:49] <Pici> I'm not very happy with the rash of bad advice being given in the channel lately either.  Just a part of growing pains I guess...
[16:50] <LjL> Pici, when bad advice is given, you lart the bad advicer. lart verbally that is, but don't think about it twice
[16:50] <PriceChild> stomp on them
[16:50] <Pici> I do... but its been just getting annoying now.
[16:52] <LjL> Pici, when you help someone, you've helped one person out of 10000 who still need help. when you correct bad advice in a way that the bad advicer understand why their advice was bad, you've suddenly fixed a potentially exponentially growing amount of issues
[16:52] <LjL> so it's worth it
[16:52] <Pici> LjL: Oh, I know its worth it, otherwise I wouldnt be doing it.
[16:52] <Pici> I'm just venting :)
[17:03] <LjL> ehm...
[17:03] <LjL> look at -ops-monitor
[17:04] <LjL> and look at the exchange between benjiman and odd_bloke in #u
[17:04] <Pici> hrm...
[17:04] <PriceChild> warwick...
[17:04] <PriceChild> i almost went there
[17:04] <Pici> Very odd.
[17:06] <LjL> they're probably good though, google hints that they're different people
[17:07] <PriceChild> I'm /msg'ing them
[17:07] <PriceChild> Those two gave *exactly* identical replies.
[17:07] <LjL> PriceChild: uh? that is?
[17:09] <LjL> benjiman, odd_bloke and lamby are registered, {brad} is not. the former two are on freenode, the latter two are not
[17:09] <LjL> registered since a long time
[17:10] <PriceChild> fauxfaux - incoming
[17:10] <FauxFaux> Hi PriceChild!
[17:10] <PriceChild> Hello there FauxFaux.
[17:10] <PriceChild> benJIman, how can I help?
[17:10] <benJIman> Hi FauxFaux.
[17:10] <FauxFaux> !say Hi!
[17:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about say hi! - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:10] <FauxFaux> Wow, pre-emptive, today.
[17:11] <PriceChild> FauxFaux, So... could we start the pm conversation again here please?
[17:11] <FauxFaux> What PM conversation..?
 Oh hi, I upgraded your channel.
 Pardon?
 With my bot network.
 (the COMPletely Secret Optimised Cluster)
[17:12] <PriceChild> =compsoc
[17:12] <wietz0r> FauxFaux: why
[17:12] <FauxFaux> Compsoc? That doesn't expand to compsoc!
[17:12] <PriceChild> wietz0r, How can I help/
[17:12] <Pici> Bspec, wietz0r: Can I help you?
[17:13] <PriceChild> FauxFaux, so... what does that mean?
[17:13] <FauxFaux> I was jokin, PriceChild, I'd never be immature enough to get loads of bots to join your channels.
[17:13] <FauxFaux> (¬_¬)
[17:13] <wietz0r> lolgay
[17:13] <FauxFaux> Hi lamby!
[17:13] <FauxFaux> !dcc list
[17:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dcc list - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:13] <FauxFaux> Oops, wrong channel.
[17:13] <lamby> Why are so many compsoc people on this channel?
[17:13] <wietz0r> FauxFaux: with immature you mean ``I don't know how to build a botnet'' amirite ?
[17:14] <PriceChild> FauxFaux, explain what is going on now please.
[17:14] <FauxFaux> Absolutely nothing!
[17:15] <wietz0r> LOL GNAA AMIRITE
[17:15] <FauxFaux> Could you unban @compsoc? That's horribly unfair. :(
[17:15] <PriceChild> FauxFaux, so why did you "just happen" to pm me?
[17:15] <LjL>  
[17:15] <FauxFaux> About what?!
[17:15] <wietz0r> because he's FauxFaux
[17:15] <wietz0r>  
[17:15] <PriceChild> wietz0r, pardon?
[17:15] <PriceChild> FauxFaux, i have pasted the pm above.
[17:15] <wietz0r> PriceChild: you can have it
[17:15] <FauxFaux> Yeah, you pmmed me!
[17:15] <FauxFaux> 11/17:08:05 <PriceChild> What're you up to?
[17:16] <PriceChild> FauxFaux, I am afraid I didn't?
[17:17] <wietz0r> man
[17:17] <wietz0r> that guy is such a failure
[17:17] <Bspec> PriceChild, you didnt pm him?
[17:17] <LjL> who's wietz0r for that matter
[17:17] <Pici> We don't joke around about these things.
[17:17] <Bspec> i think FauxFaux was clowning around
[17:18] <Bspec> told everyone in ##socialites to join here
[17:18] <LjL> wtf
[17:18] <PriceChild> lovely
[17:18] <PriceChild> thankyou Bspec
[17:18] <Bspec> youre welcome i guess
[17:18] <Bspec> so i joined here
[17:18] <Bspec> i guess i should leave
[17:19] <PriceChild> Bspec, please.
[17:19] <Bspec> okies
[17:19] <wietz0r> LjL: why the ctcp bullshit ?
[17:19] <PriceChild> wietz0r, go tell them all that bspec told us where you're from and who told you to come here.
[17:19] <mneptok> wietz0r: it's in response to the "LOL GNAA AMIRITE" bullshit
[17:20] <LjL> wietz0r: was trying to find out who's who.
[17:20] <mneptok> wietz0r: we're evaluating your bullshit filter to ensure inbound and outbound traffic shaping match.
[17:20] <wietz0r> man
[17:20] <wietz0r> you guys sure are 1337
[17:20] <wietz0r> fauxfaux told me to join this channel
[17:21] <Pici> wietz0r: And you listened...
[17:21] <PriceChild> wietz0r, bspec told us
[17:21] <wietz0r> fuck
[17:21] <PriceChild> wietz0r, now go back and have fun with bad language
[17:21] <wietz0r> I should be leet aswell
[17:21] <wietz0r> 18:21 [freenode] [ctcp(PriceChild)] VERSION
[17:21] <wietz0r> 18:21 [freenode] CTCP VERSION reply from PriceChild: xchat 2.8.4 Ubuntu
[17:21] <wietz0r> damn
[17:21] <LjL> wietz0r: and you do everything that people randomly tell you to?
[17:22] <wietz0r> on irc ?
[17:22] <wietz0r> heck yes
[17:22] <mneptok> wietz0r: type /quit
[17:22] <wietz0r> if there might be some fun in it, sure I will
[17:22] <wietz0r> unless the people are complete and utter retards ofcourse
[17:22] <wietz0r> np
[17:22] <Pici> What about counting from 1 to 3?
[17:22] <wietz0r> What about it ?
[17:23] <LjL> wietz0r: yeah, i bet you can't count from 1 to 3 using the english words for those numbers each on a line, without misspelling, in at most 5 seconds
[17:23] <wietz0r> LjL: I bet you don't know when to use a capital "i" in a sentence
[17:24] <LjL> wietz0r: you lose
[17:24] <wietz0r> but hey, atleast you know how to use some sw33t ctcp commands
[17:24] <LjL> yeah, i bet you know much better than that though
[17:24] <wietz0r> heck yes
[17:24] <wietz0r> let me show you
[17:24] <Pici> !idle | benJIman
[17:24] <ubotu> benJIman: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.
[17:25] <wietz0r> LjL: 18:24 [freenode] CTCP PING reply from LjL: 1.296 seconds
[17:25] <Pici> fancy.
[17:25] <wietz0r> I can teach you how to do sweet things like this if you want
[17:25] <wietz0r> just join ##otw
[17:25] <wietz0r> best channel on freenode, easily
[17:25] <ikonia> ooh its the Of the Wall Lot
[17:25] <wietz0r> Ofcourse it is
[17:25] <mneptok> oh, i thought it was "Outed Transsexuals World"
[17:25] <stdin> hmm, you step away for a few hours and look what happens...
[17:25] <Pici> PriceChild: that hostmask is still muted fyi
[17:25] <Pici> PriceChild: thats why he didnt respond.
[17:26] <LjL> wietz0r: nah, i know those. i think you know much more l33t commands, but i don't think i'm prepared to learn about them
[17:26] <LjL> mneptok...
[17:26] <wietz0r> mneptok: Man, you sure are sweet at this whole ``backcronym'' thing
[17:26] <wietz0r> mneptok: notice use of GNU/quotes
[17:26] <ikonia> warick uni ?
[17:26] <mneptok> wietz0r: man, you sure are sweet at having a sweet short list of sweet adjectives.
[17:27] <wietz0r> mneptok: Heck yes
[17:27] <wietz0r> mneptok: However, variety is the spice of life
[17:27] <wietz0r> mneptok: but I know you're probably h4x enough to know this
[17:28] <Pici> risjh: Can we help you?
[17:28] <LjL> wietz0r: ok, just, morale of the story... if you're randomly told to join a channel together with a swarm of other people, you shouldn't be surprised if you've investigated and CTCP'd by the people of that channel.
[17:28] <LjL> now, nothing else to see, please move along
[17:28]  * mneptok pats wietz0r onna head
[17:28] <wietz0r> Lol what
[17:28] <wietz0r> ``investigated'' ?
[17:28] <risjh> Pici: i am confused
[17:28] <wietz0r> You can ofcourse, just ask
[17:28] <risjh> what is going on?
[17:28] <Pici> risjh: Why are you here?
[17:28] <LjL> wietz0r: that ctcp was a way to investigate.
[17:28] <LjL> wietz0r: yeah sure
[17:28] <risjh> Pici: wanted to ask if ubuntu is a rolling distro
[17:29] <wietz0r> Sure
[17:29] <PriceChild> risjh, no need to worry about anything else. Can I help you?
[17:29] <wietz0r> LjL: ask away
[17:29] <risjh> PriceChild: is ubuntu a rolling distro?
[17:29] <Pici> risjh: You are in the #ubuntu-ops channel, either you were banforwarded here or you joined accidentally.
[17:29] <risjh> i shouldnt be here?
[17:29] <PriceChild> risjh, this is not a support channel. and No.
[17:29] <risjh> ok i see i read the topic now
[17:30] <LjL> wietz0r: ask away? ok, are you a gnaa member?
[17:30] <PriceChild> risjh, not if you don't have any business here.
[17:30] <risjh> later folks
[17:30] <wietz0r> LjL: No, I am not in anyway affiliated with the Gay Nigger Association of America
[17:30] <LjL> i see.
[17:30] <LjL> i asked what i wanted to know.
[17:30] <LjL> i'm done.
[17:30] <Pici> Can we please be done with this?
[17:30] <wietz0r> LjL: how was ctcping me gonna let you find this out ?
[17:30] <wietz0r> I am just interested in this, after this I will leave
[17:31] <LjL> ctcping was to help me find out if you were on the same machine as those five other folks.
[17:31] <wietz0r> you mean /whois
[17:31] <wietz0r> but sure
[17:31] <LjL> no, i don't mean /whois
[17:32] <wietz0r> Oh, you 1337 hacker
[17:32] <LjL> no. but really, we're done now.
[17:32] <wietz0r> anyhow, I didn't mean to cause any disturbance yadayadayda
[17:32] <wietz0r> later
[17:32] <Pici> Lies.
[17:32] <ikonia> < wietz0r> can I leave a channel in irssi but keep the window open ?
[17:32] <ikonia> he's trying to look like he's leaving but not
[17:33] <LjL> ikonia: i think he knows better than that though
[17:33] <LjL> anyway, incident closed.
[17:33]  * Pici closes the book
[17:33] <ikonia> LjL Pici you two are like a double act with the counting thing
[17:33] <LjL> ikonia: it never works though
[17:34] <ikonia> I was hopinh
[17:34] <ikonia> hopinh
[17:34] <ikonia> hoping
[17:34] <Pici> I was hopinh too
[17:34] <ikonia> ughh
[18:19] <ubotu> FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[18:20] <Pici>  commiebob (i=loser@cpe-74-79-24-106.twcny.res.rr.com)
[18:21] <Pici> !staff | above user attempted a dcc exploit, but didnt use enough character to trigger it and didnt caught by the auto-l-line
[18:21] <ubotu> above user attempted a dcc exploit, but didnt use enough character to trigger it and didnt caught by the auto-l-line: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2 or Christel,  I could use a bit of your time :)
[18:21] <Pici> heh, characters, not character.... although lack of character might have something to do with it.
[18:24] <nalioth> well, we can't fault 'em for trying
[18:24] <Pici> we can't?
[18:31] <LjL> uhm, although...
[18:31] <Pici> Yes, it triggered the floodbots
[18:31] <LjL> the *bots* shouldn't have been triggered by a non-exploit either
[18:31] <LjL> yeah
[18:31] <Pici> Thats the only way I noticed it
[18:31] <LjL> but i thought i did have a characters count check in place
[18:32] <nalioth> it did not trigger me (obviously)
[18:32] <nalioth> i don't think it was malicious in nature, after looking at /lastlog
[18:34] <Pici> nalioth: Why not?
[18:34] <Pici> He joined, was there for a minute, did his thing, and left.
[18:34] <nalioth> i think it was meant as a joke
[18:34] <nalioth> actually.
[18:34] <nalioth> the trolls know well what it takes to actually exploit
[18:35] <LjL> well, it was a *failed* exploit
[18:35] <LjL> and he did indeed say dcc send fail
[18:35] <LjL> anyway later
[18:35] <Pici> Laters
[18:43] <ardchoille> I dislike those *snack factoids. They provide nothing useful to the channel.
[18:43] <stdin> they make people feel appreciated when they help, well !helpersnack does anyway
[18:44] <Pici> There are a few non-useful factoids, but as long as they dont get abused, I see no problem with them.
[18:45] <nalioth> ardchoille: there are many factoids that consist of 100% cruft
[18:45] <ardchoille> nalioth: I'm beginning to see that
[18:45] <nalioth> ardchoille: do you remember ubotu v1?
[18:45] <ardchoille> I think that was before my time in ubuntu
[18:45] <Pici> Any 'fun' factoids that I add, I usually make only active in #ubuntu-offtopic, theres no need for them in any of the other channels.
[18:46] <Pici> s/usually/only/
[18:46] <Gary> I hate the !Gary one :'(
[18:46] <Pici> !gary
[18:46] <ubotu> Gary is as Gary does, on the other hand four fingers and a thumb!
[18:46] <nalioth> well, cafuego (the guy that operated it) still has his factoid page up.  it allowed anyone to add a factoid, and we (the ubuntu ops) were always going through the list and deleting the nasty/off topic ones
[18:46] <ardchoille> nalioth: eeewwwww
[18:46] <nalioth> so if you want to see "major cruft", ardchoille, find the ubotu v1 factoid page and give it a read
[18:47] <ardchoille> hehe, no thanks
[18:48] <Pici> I do agree with stdin on the helpersnack one, I use that every now and then for the exceptional user who is helping alot.
[18:49] <ardchoille> A simple "thank you" should suffice, imo
[18:52] <stdin> but the user feels "special" when ubotu does it, and everyone else notices ubotu doing it too, so they feel "extra special" :P
[18:53] <Gary> my mum says I am special
[18:53] <stdin> because you are :)
[18:55] <Daviey> he's not special, he's a very naughty boy
[18:58] <Gary> :'(
[18:58] <jussi01> there are fun useful factoids like !thanks, and then there are just useless ones, like !jdong
[18:59] <Pici> jdong is pretty useless...
[18:59] <jussi01> !jdong
 jdong: yes, but you're FULL OF CRACK!
[19:00] <Pici> I think we're being too sterile about this, I wouldnt be happy if ubotu was completely devoid of humor.
[19:01] <jussi01> I would have to agree with that
[19:02] <ubotu> In ubotu, luca_b said: !plasma is Plasma is the new technology developed in KDE 4 to improve the user's desktop experience. For more information, turn to the FAQ at http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/FAQ
[19:15]  * jussi01 is completely bored of the kde4 discussion in #k ... 
[19:18] <stdin> not much you can do about it, and expect it for a few days (at least) yet
[19:18] <jussi01> stdin: yeah, I know...
[19:19] <Pici> If Kubuntu would just release versions more often you wouldnt have this problem
[19:19] <Pici> s/kubuntu/KDE/
[19:19] <Pici> :p
[19:19] <jussi01> I just wish we had a separate channel for it or something, like #kubuntu-kde4 its like devel talk in there, which is cool and needed, but doesnt help the new people...
[19:20] <Pici> #kubuntu+1
[19:20] <jussi01> Pici: ssshhh
[19:20] <Gary> is kde4 out then :p
[19:20] <jussi01> :P
[19:20] <jussi01> THWAACCKKK
[19:20] <Gary> is it shiny?
[19:20]  * Gary hides
[19:21] <Pici> I'm not a KDE user, but I really have nothing against it :)
[19:23] <stdin> jussi01: kde4 is community supported, so it should be in #kubuntu, but maybe a #kubuntu-kde4 isn't a bad idea. or a #kubuntu-kde3 for when hardy had 4 by default
[19:23] <stdin> something to think about for later anyway
[19:24] <jussi01> stdin: I suppose, just when we are having these dual versions, it gets a tad on my nerves...
[19:25] <stdin> gets messy anyway, you have to ask "what version of Kubuntu and what version of KDE" when hardy comes out
[19:25] <Pici> Its messy if you want to split the channels up too.
[19:25] <jussi01> life is messy....
[19:25] <stdin> yeah, that's why I think it's something that needs proper discussion, later
[19:26] <jussi01> its messy in #kubuntu... which way do you want it?
[19:26] <stdin> we'll have to bring it up at one of the kubuntu meetings
[19:27] <jussi01> stdin: yeah, we will have to,
[19:27] <Pici> imo #k is no where near as messy as #u is.
[19:28] <jussi01> thats really not the point....
[19:28] <Pici> I didnt mean for it to sound like a competition, sorry.
[19:29] <stdin> #ubuntu vs. #kubuntu, the new "Gnome vs. KDE" for 2008 :p
[19:29] <jussi01> LOL
[19:30] <Pici> Both channels are going through their own growing pains.
[19:32] <jussi01> yeah, its something thats getting a little worrying for me, wondering how we are going to do it in the future when we have 30 or 40 thousand people trying to cram into #ubuntu
[19:32] <Pici> I hope we arent using irc at that point.
[19:32] <jussi01> hehe
[19:33] <Pici> Plus as the distro grows, hopefully it will be more easy to use, more stable and less people will even require support.
[19:33] <jussi01> one hopes...
[19:33] <Pici> I gotta hope for something ;)
[19:33] <jussi01> hehe, true
[19:33] <Seveas> Plus as the distro grows, hopefully it will be more easy to use, attracting more users with less clue, increasing the support demand
[19:34] <Seveas> which is what's happening :)
[19:34] <jussi01> exactly what I was thinking..
[19:34] <jussi01> Hi Seveas
[19:35] <Seveas> hi
[19:35]  * jussi01 wonders how to get his shiny new email address working...
[19:37] <Seveas> what's your main launchpad address?
[19:38] <jussi01> Seveas: https://edge.launchpad.net/~jussi01
[19:38] <stdin> jussi01: it took about a month for me, apparently LP runs it as one big cron job
[19:38] <Seveas> <** 550 <youraddressatubuntu.com>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual alias table
[19:38] <Seveas> stdin, not cron job but manually run
[19:39] <jussi01> Ok, so how do I fix it?
[19:39] <Seveas> to test: swaks -f bill@microsoft.com -t yourubuntu.comaddress
[19:39] <stdin> Seveas: took forever for mine then :p
[19:39] <Seveas> :)
[19:44] <jussi01> oooh, i think it works now!
[19:44] <jussi01> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51571/
[19:50] <Pici> Seveas: Any word on getting ubotu moved to canonical's server or transferring updates/maintenance of it to someone else?
[19:51] <Seveas> nobody volunteered
[19:52] <Pici> I'm concidering volunteering.
[19:52] <jussi01> I would, but you dont want me too ;)
[19:54] <ardchoille> Seveas: Anything I can do to help?
[19:54] <Gary> surely mneptok must be useful for something? :-)
[19:55] <Pici> About as useful as jdong.
[19:55] <jussi01> LOL
[19:55] <Seveas> I don't know who you insulted most
[19:55] <Pici> Thats the beauty of it.
[19:55] <ardchoille> haha
[19:56] <Jack_Sparrow> May I ask a short offtopic question.
[19:56] <Pici> No, we're being very serious right now... of course you can.
[19:57] <Jack_Sparrow> I have a multi-user extension for unix  from 2 user to unlimited.. Is it of any value to the project or to give it away to the group
[19:57] <Jack_Sparrow> I found it while cleaning my office
[19:58] <Pici> Excuse my ignorance, but what is a 'multi-user extension' for unix?
[19:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Software license.. it was expensive at the time..
[20:02] <Seeker`> I would potentially be willing to help with ubotu once I finish uni in june, but it depends on jobs etc.
[20:02] <Seeker`> well, specifically, whether I find one or not
[20:03] <PriceChild> eek i should be applying for jobs already
[20:03] <Seeker`> PriceChild: you are 2nd year?
[20:03] <Seeker`> or final year?
[20:03] <PriceChild> yup
[20:03] <Seeker`> why do you need to apply for jobs?
[20:04] <PriceChild> I've got a DoE gold expedition on the books hopefully but obviously that doesn't pay
[20:04] <PriceChild> for money :D
[20:04] <Seeker`> heh
[20:04] <PriceChild> mullah
[20:04] <PriceChild> renumeration
[20:04] <Seeker`> but you have a year before graduation
[20:04] <PriceChild> yup
[20:04] <PriceChild> that's if i make it to graduation
[20:04] <Seeker`> I need a job because the student loans compnay / my parents will stop giving me money soon
[20:05] <PriceChild> damn parents
[20:05] <PriceChild> lulling you into a false sense of security
[20:05] <Seeker`> heh
[20:05] <PriceChild> and then BLAM!
[20:06] <jussi01> Seeker` has parents o.O
[20:06] <jussi01> :P
[20:06] <Seeker`> jussi01: No, I just spontaneously came into existace
[20:07] <jussi01> lol
[20:08]  * PriceChild eats ice cream and cookies
[20:11]  * PriceChild dips cookie in ice cream
[20:19] <Seeker`> @btlogin
 How do I get the stupid built in webcam for my hp pavilian to work? I need to get a recent picture for this dating service I just signed off for
[20:43] <PriceChild> (-offtopic)
[20:45] <Gary> lol
[20:48] <Gary> he sounds really annoyed too :p
[21:42] <LjL> sigh
[21:43] <PriceChild> LjL, what's up?
[21:43] <LjL> PriceChild: oh nothing, just sighing on mikem.
[21:44] <PriceChild> :)
[22:01] <articpenguin3800> im still banned from ubuntu+1
[22:03] <PriceChild> articpenguin3800, you told us a few weeks ago and quickly left
[22:03] <PriceChild> Thanks for the reminder.
[22:03] <articpenguin3800> couple days ago
[22:03] <articpenguin3800> my computer crashed
[22:04] <PriceChild> articpenguin3800, skyfalcon866?
[22:05] <articpenguin3800> didnt we talk about this last week?
[22:05] <PriceChild> articpenguin3800, you've probably dealt with us once, we've dealt with hundreds
[22:06] <Seveas> articpenguin3800, it's a good thing if ops don't remember you. You probably weren't too bad
[22:06] <LjL> Seveas: wrong
[22:06] <Seveas> if they remember you, you're in trouble
[22:06] <PriceChild> articpenguin3800, The ban has been lifted, "/msg ubotu guidelines"
[22:06] <Seveas> LjL, you just have dodgy memory ;)
[22:06] <LjL> Seveas: yes, that's it
[22:07] <ompaul> articpenguin3800, trolling is not acceptable the /msg ubotu guidelines will help you understand the attitude we try to encourage, you already know the type we don't like
[22:08] <PriceChild> articpenguin3800, anything else I can help you with?
[22:08] <articpenguin3800> no thanks
[22:08] <articpenguin3800> bye
[22:10] <siriusnova> Hi can i please get unbanned from ubuntu-offtopic
[22:10] <siriusnova> my friend got on my comp
[22:10] <siriusnova> and got me banned
[22:10] <siriusnova> :(
[22:10] <siriusnova> i went to take a shower and i come back and im banned
[22:11] <LjL> siriusnova: did friend have a different nickname? i don't see you banned as siriusnova
[22:11] <siriusnova> LjL - no it was this nick
[22:11] <siriusnova> it says im not welcome
[22:12] <LjL> ok, i've found it
[22:12] <Pici> Twas me.
[22:12] <LjL> yeah
[22:12] <siriusnova> :/
[22:12] <siriusnova> sowrry
[22:12] <siriusnova> what did he do
[22:12] <siriusnova> that got me banned anyway
[22:12] <siriusnova> :/
[22:12] <LjL> 2008-01-09T17:33:31 <siriusnova> lol
[22:12] <LjL> 2008-01-09T17:33:32 <siriusnova> http://www.efukt.com/2006_Punched_In_The_Pussy.html
[22:13] <siriusnova> :/
[22:13] <siriusnova> im going to kick his ass
[22:13] <ompaul> game over methinks
[22:13] <siriusnova> next time im locking my screen :S
[22:13] <LjL> siriusnova, i'll unban you because you're enough of a regular, but yeah, please lock your computer while not using it, can never hurt
[22:14] <siriusnova> yeah :(
[22:14] <nalioth> or electrify the keyboard :0
[22:14] <siriusnova> especially when your drunk friends are over
[22:14] <siriusnova> :P
[22:15] <jdong> oh yes I remember that happening to me, too :)
[22:15] <jdong> fortunately it was over AIM though
[22:15] <Gary> where can one find these keyboards you talk of?  I want them for my users
[22:15] <jdong> I had to correct people for weeks after that I was NOT having a camel and llama party.
[22:15] <siriusnova> lol
[22:16] <ompaul> siriusnova, is there anything else we  an help you with?
[22:16] <siriusnova> oh no im good thanks :)
[22:51] <jussi01> what is going on in #kubuntu-offtopic's topic?????
[22:53] <PriceChild> jussi01, ?
[22:54] <jussi01> PriceChild: weird... i think I was seing things...
[22:54] <jpatrick> gerax banned from #kubuntu
[22:54] <PriceChild> jussi01, about the coc?
[22:54] <jussi01> jpatrick: I was about to do that
[22:54] <jpatrick> posted a porn link
[22:55] <jussi01> PriceChild: nm, I was seeing things...
[23:10] <Seveas> jussi01, so you're not blind :)
[23:17] <Moduliz0r> hi, does anyone here have power to actually kick someone off the server
[23:17] <LjL> Moduliz0r: why?
[23:17] <Moduliz0r> Wait ill get him on
[23:19] <Moduliz0r> here he is
[23:19] <Moduliz0r> _Undefine1: tell them your problem
[23:19] <_Undefine1> ok, my wireless disconnected me, but for some reason my nick wasnt kicked off the freenode network
[23:19] <LjL> !ghost
[23:19] <ubotu> On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>
[23:20] <Moduliz0r> hehe
[23:20] <_Undefine1> yay, thanks guys
[23:20] <LjL> no problem
[23:20] <Moduliz0r> ;)
[23:23] <LjL> pici...
[23:23] <Pici> ljl...
[23:23] <LjL> *you* said it's $chan and not $channel
[23:23] <LjL> !away
[23:23] <ubotu> You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu-opsnel - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also !Guidelines
[23:23] <Pici> er... yeah... then I didnt do anything about it...
[23:23] <LjL> also, #ubuntu is busy, #ubuntu-ops is not, #ubuntu-opsnel even less so :P
[23:23] <Pici> oops.
[23:23] <LjL> aah well, my seventh sense failed me
[23:24] <LjL> who's the sacrifice victim then
[23:24] <Pici> !away =~ s/$channel/$chan/
[23:24] <ubotu> Nothing changed there
[23:24] <Pici> hrm
[23:24] <Pici> !away =~ s/\$channel/\$chan/
[23:25] <Palintheus> it seems the !away factoid tacks come extra letters to the channel name
[23:25] <Palintheus> !away
[23:25] <ubotu> You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like ubotunel - it causes unrequired scrolling which is  unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for  using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also  !Guidelines
[23:25] <Pici> !away
[23:25] <ubotu> You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu-ops - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also  !Guidelines
[23:26] <Pici> Palintheus: fixed already ;)
[23:26] <Palintheus> ha!
[23:29] <nekostar> PriceChild u about?
[23:29] <PriceChild> yeah sure
[23:29] <nekostar> ah
[23:29] <PriceChild> How can I help?
[23:29] <nekostar> sorry about a couple weeks ago
[23:29] <nekostar> you were right
[23:29] <nekostar> irssi was misconfigured
[23:29] <nekostar> was connecting via 6667 and not 8001
[23:29] <nekostar> and since i took the time to bitch u out
[23:30] <nekostar> wanted to take the time to apologize same way
[23:30] <nekostar> /sorry/
[23:30] <PriceChild> Its no problem nekostar. Thanks for coming back to let me know.
[23:30] <nekostar> sigh
[23:30] <PriceChild> hmm?
[23:30] <nekostar> sometimes thats what it takes to be a man or w/e
[23:31] <nekostar> hey how broken is hardy?
[23:31] <PriceChild> no idea, ask in #ubuntu+1
[23:31] <nekostar> i'm there
[23:31] <nekostar> l8
[23:32] <PriceChild> Well that was nice.
[23:34] <mc44> that's what it takes to be a man or w/e!
[23:34] <LjL> !rootshell is <reply> Using !sudo with single commands in preferable in most circumstances. However, if you really need a root shell, use « sudo -i » (other variants of this commands are redundant and/or potentially dangerous)
[23:34] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[23:35] <nalioth> if you have to ask, it's broken beyond your abilities
[23:36] <LjL> nalioth: maybe, but i'm just sick & tired of seeing people replying "sudo bash", "sudo sh", "sudo -s", "sudo su", "sudo su -", i.e. everything except the right thing to do, to this question
[23:40]  * nalioth was referring to nekostar
[23:40] <LjL> ah
[23:40] <LjL> well, how broken is hardy?
[23:41] <nalioth> if you have to ask, it's more borked than you can handle
[23:41]  * nalioth runs
[23:42] <LjL> can't be more broken than the kde4 packages in gutsy :P
[23:42]  * LjL runs too
[23:44] <Seveas>                  !nalioth
[23:44] <ubotu> Sorry, nalioth's repository is no longer available.
[23:45] <LjL> rredd4: need a test?
[23:45] <rredd4> please test me, i am logged in via 8001
[23:45] <rredd4> yes
[23:45] <LjL> you pass
[23:45] <rredd4> ty
[23:46] <rredd4> when i do try to join on 8001, i get the 6667 room?
[23:46] <PriceChild> yes
[23:46] <rredd4> why?
[23:48] <nalioth> rredd4: we have to see if you've connected on 8001 before we can remove the ban (it's not automatic)
[23:48] <rredd4> ok
[23:48] <PriceChild> rredd4, you should be able to join now.
[23:48] <rredd4> ty!
[23:50] <ubotu> FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)
[23:50] <LjL> uhm
[23:51] <LjL> just a spike?