[00:00] <NoelJB> ToastGuy: glad to hear it.
[00:00] <cwillu> NoelJB, -> ToastGuy :p
[00:00] <bobby_> Slart: ok... cool!! THANK YOU THANK YOU!! it's copying now!! :D
[00:01] <ader10> I want to adjust my screensaver. I can't find a way to do it. I am using "phosphor" and I want to have it print the output of a console command. Help please!
[00:02] <esteveryt> Jack_Sparrow: i'm going to sell drugs while it's burning
[00:02] <cwillu> ader10, you just ran into a political problem :/
[00:02] <hagabaka> Strangework: you could also try fcitx, xcin, gcin
[00:02] <cwillu> ader10, disagreement on how screensavers should be configured
[00:02] <schnoowork> anyone know what it means when i cant use any visual effects at all and it says 'The composite extension is not available' ?
[00:02] <cwillu> schnoowork, what video card?
[00:02] <ader10> cwillu: You mean gnome devs think you shouldn't be able to configure s... right?
[00:02] <ToastGuy> What's up NoelJB?
[00:02] <cwillu> ader10, not exactly
[00:03] <cwillu> ader10, but close
[00:03] <qwaz> Quick question: why do some pages have question marks all over the place? is it my font settings?
[00:03] <schnoowork> cwillu, ati mobility x2300
[00:03] <ader10> cwillu: I remember the good old red hat days when they let you do what you wanted.... Too bad kubuntu sucks
[00:04] <ToastGuy> cwillu: so there's are 3 different was to make an MP3?
[00:04] <schnoowork> cwillu, any idea why that may be.
[00:04] <bastid_raZor> you're allowed to have an opinion.. and i'm allowed to think you're an idiot for having it
[00:04] <cwillu> sorry, one sec
[00:04] <ToastGuy> k
[00:04] <x86>  xserver-xorg-video-intel conflicts with xserver-xorg-video-i810 (<< 2:1.9.91-1)
[00:04] <x86>   xserver-xorg-video-i810 (version 1:1.7.2-4mepis2) is installed.
[00:04] <x86> dpkg: error processing ./xserver-xorg-video-intel_1.9.94-1ubuntu4_i386.deb (--install):
[00:04] <x86>  , I can I fix this and update to the intel driver?
[00:04] <Slart> bobby_: sorry.. crashed there... had to kill some stuff to get back.. it worked?
[00:05] <crazyrk> Hi can someone help me ? I'm having problems with the filesystem
[00:05] <x86> * how can I fix it to update to the intel driver?
[00:05] <jimmygoon> x86, do you intentionally have mepis repos enabled?
[00:05] <ader10> I want to adjust my screensaver. I can't find a way to do it. I am using "phosphor" and I want to have it print the output of a console command. Please help!!
[00:05] <cwillu> schnoowork, you probably need to set your screen depth to 16bit;  have you played with compiz or aiglx before on that machien?
[00:05] <truna> ader10  pipe the output of the cli command like so   command1 > file.txt    is this not good enuff to capture your command1 results?
[00:06] <cwillu> ToastGuy, there's probably a couple hundred ways :p
[00:06] <cwillu> ToastGuy, you just want to copy off a cd?
[00:06] <ToastGuy> cwillu: well ya
[00:06] <jimmygoon> Sound Juicer will go to an mp3?
[00:06] <crazyrk> GDM keeps saying that my user doesn't have permissions to edit it's folder or there is no disk space
[00:06] <cwillu> ader10, I think you can still install plain old xscreensaver
[00:06] <ToastGuy> cwillu: or what ever
[00:06] <ToastGuy> cwillu: it's just more to be aware that there are different levels
[00:06] <ader10> truna: I do not need to know how to do that. I need to know how to configure gnome-screensaver.
[00:06] <qwaz> anyone? please?
[00:06] <qwaz> Quick question: why do some pages have question marks all over the place? is it my font settings?
[00:06] <crazyrk> But there is disk space, and i've already tried to change it's home folder permissions
[00:06] <jimmygoon> crazyrk, well, are you out of space?
[00:06] <crazyrk> No
[00:06] <cwillu> ToastGuy, look in applications | sound & video; there should be a cd extracter there
[00:07] <ToastGuy> cwillu: I'm not into piracy, but I just don't believe in locking down media
[00:07] <ader10> cwillu: I might do that, but it'll probably screw over the integration I worked so hard on.
[00:07] <truna> ader10 what is with this attitude?
[00:07] <crazyrk> I already deleted big files like 500mb
[00:07] <jimmygoon> crazyrk, what is the perm level of your home dir?
[00:07] <joeamined> does anyone know how to get wireless internet connection working in ubuntu with bell sympatico ?
[00:07] <x86> jimmygoon I have a mepis install because I have an Acer Aspire 3680, now I'm trying to get the s-video to work mainly. How can I accomplish this?
[00:07] <ader10> truna: I'm not trying to be difficult. Just please read my question :)
[00:07] <crazyrk> I don't know how it was before, but i've tried to set it 644 with root and later 777
[00:07] <cwillu> ToastGuy, don't worry, I'm pretty sure I get kicked if I tell you how to create a torrent file from a dvd rip you just made ;p
[00:07] <Rufus_> whats the program to edit partitions on ubuntu?
[00:07] <ToastGuy> cwillu: will it do it be the most open form of mp3s?
[00:07] <cwillu> ader10, indeed, it would
[00:07] <crazyrk> Even with 777 i'm not able to access it with gnome
[00:07] <truna> ader10 your question includes how to capture output of command line...
[00:07] <crazyrk> nor even in terminal without root
[00:07] <Rufus_> whats the program to edit partitions on ubuntu?
[00:07] <cwillu> ToastGuy, mp3's don't have any drm in them (they're ugly because of the patent, not the format itself)
[00:08] <ToastGuy> cwillu: lol
[00:08] <cwillu> ToastGuy, ogg is the recommended format
[00:08] <x86> I'm trying to configure my s-video, it appears I have intel drivers can anyone help?
[00:08] <qwaz> Quick question: why do some pages have question marks all over the place? is it my font settings?
[00:08] <Starnestommy> Rufus_: either gparted or cfdisk
[00:08] <ader10> truna: I'm sorry I didn't make it clear, what I meant was how do I configure my screensaver to print the output of a command,
[00:08] <Rufus_> thank you
[00:08] <cwillu> ToastGuy, although many windows players won't doing anything with an ogg out of the box
[00:08] <Starnestommy> qwaz: could be that you have poor unicode support
[00:08] <jimmygoon> x86, um, lol, I don't understand what mepis has to do with Acer but your ubuntu repositories are clashing with the mepis ones. you might be able to just remove the i810 driver and then try installing the intel driver, but if one is in mepis and one is in ubuntu or something liek that, you will have problems
[00:08] <crazyrk> somebody ?
[00:08] <FrostRat> joeamined: I did have one, before switching to Teksavvy... I used a router, though, which handled the connection, so it doesn't make a difference whether it was Bell or Rogers, DSL or cable...
[00:08] <ToastGuy> cwillu: understood
[00:08] <bastid_raZor> qwaz:: translation issues? or viewing a file that shouldn't be view in html
[00:08] <qwaz> Starnestommy: Ahh, ok.  How do I go about fixing unicode support
[00:09] <ToastGuy> cwillu: well, it's also about being aware of the better non patent version
[00:09] <ToastGuy> and that is OGG?
[00:09] <x86> ahhh... jimmygoon so how can I go about getting s-video to work?
[00:09] <papuccino1> hello
[00:09] <qwaz> bastid_raZor: just regular pages in english
[00:09] <cwillu> ToastGuy, as long as your in the linux world, either format will work (ogg is in -good, so it'll work out of the box)
[00:09] <bobby_> Slart: yes it did!! thank you very much!! it's copying now... take more then a hour though!!
[00:09] <cwillu> ToastGuy, indeed
[00:09] <papuccino1> Just checking in to see what's new.
[00:09] <jimmygoon> crazyrk, might check where the perm levels lie in subdirs (I'm not sure on intracacies of gdm)
[00:09] <qwaz> bastid_raZor: for example http://www.epinions.com/content_2251202692
[00:09] <truna> can someone verify on a gutsy install if  nxclient is a stock install? i seemed to have deleted mine and now can not add it as it is not in the repository <--someone check please and let me know
[00:09] <Strangework> My computer has a tendency to hang at random moments, sometimes when I change songs in Rhythmbox, click on a link in Firefox, start a new application, anything. Intervals can be as little as 3 minutes to as long as a day. What could be the problem? I remember hearing someone on this chatroom say something about "nohz=off" or something of the sort.
[00:09] <jimmygoon> x86, I have no idea. video output besides LCD is supposedly better in intel driver. otherwise I don't know
[00:09] <bastid_raZor> qwaz:: you're using firefox?
[00:10] <cwillu> Strangework, ibm?
[00:10] <bastid_raZor> qwaz:: ubuntu 7.10?
[00:10] <qwaz> bastid_raZor: aye
[00:10] <Slart>  bobby_: ah.. good
[00:10] <qwaz> aye
[00:10] <crazyrk> jimmygoon: are you saying to check the folders inside /home/user/ ?
[00:10] <ader10> truna: do you have any ideas?
[00:10] <jimmygoon> truna, no. it is not stock, its not oss if I remember
[00:10] <bobby_> Slart: I'm a happy camper! :D
[00:10] <ToastGuy> my rhythmbox is just lagging.... I'm guessing because of all the files it's trying to load
[00:10] <truna> ader10 nope not yet, i may come across it and let you know
[00:10] <jimmygoon> crazyrk, yeah, like maybe it needs access to /home/crazyrk/.gnome2 and maybe that dir has bad perms... I REALLY DONT KNOW THOUGH :P sorry
[00:10] <jimmygoon> crazyrk, really, its just a thought on my part :S
[00:10] <crazyrk> jimmygoon: are you saying to check the folders inside /home/user/ ?
[00:10] <cwillu> ToastGuy, probably;  there's a bunch of kernel improvements that you're missing out on too (although the biggest comes with hardy, which isn't actually out yet anyway)
[00:11] <Strangework> cwillu: nahh, HP
[00:11] <cwillu> ToastGuy, aka "make things work smoother under load"
[00:11] <crazyrk> jimmygoon: Well, trying with -R on chmod now
[00:11] <jimmygoon> crazyrk, er, be careful
[00:11] <jimmygoon> lol
[00:11] <willluongo> Hello, I had to restore my mysql database from a backup, and now all my tables are read only. Can anyone tell me how to make sure they have write access in ubuntu server?
[00:11] <ToastGuy> cwillu: "with Hardy" ???
[00:11] <truna> jimmygoon, are you sure? i saw my nxclient, but since I messed up the authorized_keys i figured to remove and reinstall not realizing its been installed as part of stock install(?)
[00:11] <jimmygoon> truna I'm 100% sure
[00:11] <cwillu> ToastGuy, hardy is the next long-term-service release, due out in 3 months
[00:12] <bastid_raZor> qwaz:: it is showing ?'s all over for me also.. whatever that character is isn't supported.
[00:12] <cwillu> ToastGuy, aka 8.04
[00:12] <jimmygoon> truna, I sure haven't uninstalled it, I would like to use it but last tiem I checked it was a PITA to get working. it is not installed on my copy
[00:12] <esteveryt> the alternate cd is this ubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64.iso ???
[00:12] <crazyrk> jimmygoon: Tried it, still doesn't working.... Has it something with deleting /tmp contents ?
[00:12] <ToastGuy> cwillu: for ubuntu.. gott'cha....
[00:12] <jimmygoon> crazyrk, no clue
[00:12] <xoqa> i've installed ekiga, but when i try to run, i get the error "No usable audio plugin detected... Ekiga didn't find any usable audio plugin. Make sure that your installation is correct" searched the net to no avail
[00:12] <qwaz> bastid_raZor: oh ok...so it's the web-authors fault?
[00:12] <truna> jimmygoon, umm. ..where the heck did that nxclient come from that I removed...
[00:12] <bastid_raZor> qwaz:: yes,
[00:12] <crazyrk> jimmygoon: Well, thanks
[00:12] <Regor> has kde4 hit the repos yet?
[00:12]  * cwillu wishes ekiga would go away, to be replaced by something good, or at least not bad
[00:12] <truna> oh well
[00:12] <qwaz> bastid_raZor: ok thanksk for your time, i appreciate it
[00:12] <ToastGuy> cwillu: is there any simple upgrade packages from 6.06 to 7?
[00:12] <g0rb3hy> esteveryt: nope.... sec
[00:12] <xoqa> oh so.. has anyone has this problem?
[00:13] <jimmygoon> truna, it could have come from a package, or a dependency of another package. etc etc
[00:13] <jimmygoon> ader10, see about replacing gnome-screensaver with xscreensaver
[00:13] <joeamined> does anyone know how to get wireless internet connection working in ubuntu with bell sympatico ?
[00:13] <esteveryt> g0rb3hy: and which one is the alternate?
[00:13] <bastid_raZor> qwaz:: no problem.
[00:13] <cwillu> ToastGuy, yep;  by default, it won't bug you about them (6.06 being a long-term release)
[00:13] <truna> JimmyDee, ill goo poking around
[00:13] <ader10> jimmygoon: I'll do that right now :)
[00:13] <crazyrk> jimmygoon: Now my user cannot even access /bin to use commom apps !
[00:13] <crazyrk> jimmygoon: only root can do anything
[00:13] <cwillu> ToastGuy, you can run the update manager by hand (not hard), and it'll do an upgrade to 6.10, and when that's done it'll offer automatically to go to 7.04, and so on
[00:13] <jimmygoon> crazyrk, er...
[00:13] <bastid_raZor> crazyrk:: sounds like you've removed yourself from admin group
[00:13] <peter_> On what channel I can find help with sh-scripting?
[00:13] <jimmygoon> crazyrk, is your HD going bad?
[00:14] <Strangework> My computer has a tendency to hang at random moments, sometimes when I change songs in Rhythmbox, click on a link in Firefox, start a new application, anything. Intervals can be as little as 3 minutes to as long as a day. What could be the problem? I remember hearing someone on this chatroom say something about "nohz=off" or something of the sort.
[00:14] <truna> joeamined, i dont think it has to be ISP specific, but anyhow, what have you done to test if its active or have loaded the drivers?
[00:14] <crazyrk> jimmygoon: Well, SMART didn't say anything
[00:14] <ToastGuy> cwillu: update manager? where?
[00:14] <cwillu> ToastGuy, there's currently no way to skip distro's other than reinstalling, although I _think_ they're planning on a direct 6.06->8.04 upgrade (could be mistaken though)
[00:14] <waner> en español
[00:14] <MaxRide> One more quick question, a quick answer is ok, Ubuntu on a UMPC with a touchscreen, easy or hard?
[00:14] <crazyrk> bastid_raZor: Oh, how can i check it ?
[00:14] <jimmygoon> crazyrk, hm, sounds to me like you've got some major permission problems going on
[00:14] <cwillu> ToastGuy, alt+f2, type in "update-manager -c"
[00:14] <ToastGuy> cwillu: whatever, I'm ready to go to the next version
[00:14] <cwillu> ToastGuy, this will take some time though
[00:15] <jimmygoon> crazyrk, you will probably need to ssh in or do a "Recovery/single user" boot and boot into root, find out what those folders are supposed! to be and repair them
[00:15] <g0rb3hy> esteveryt: sorry, you had it right :)
[00:15] <crazyrk> jimmygoon: This is strange because everything was working, and when i rebooted this happened
[00:15] <cwillu> ToastGuy, you'll end up doing the equivilent of downloading _every_ version between 6.06 and 7.10
[00:15] <cwillu> ToastGuy, that is, you'll upgrade to 6.10, and then 7.04, then 7.10
[00:15] <g0rb3hy> esteveryt: thought it had something else in the file name
[00:15] <ToastGuy> I need to be root is says
[00:15] <ToastGuy> I know how to do that from command line
[00:15] <cwillu> ToastGuy, my bad
[00:15] <ToastGuy> how do I do that otherwise?
[00:15] <ToastGuy> o
[00:15] <cwillu> ToastGuy, just add sudo before the command
[00:16] <cwillu> bah
[00:16] <MaxRide> Repost to channel: quick question, quick answer ok, Ubuntu on a UMPC with a touchscreen, easy or hard?
[00:16] <crazyrk> jimmygoon: ill try it, thks
[00:16] <cwillu> ToastGuy, make that gksudo
[00:16] <FrostRat> I thought they were planning on an LTS->LTS upgrade path... :(  Darn it.
[00:16] <Nessarose> can anyone tell me why i cant see my root parition in cfdisk it comes up as free space
[00:16] <cwillu> FrostRat, i think so,
[00:16] <tdoggette> How can I upgrade my kernel (currently 2.6.22-14-generic x86_64) to 2.6.24.3-2.9 without breaking anything under Feisty?
[00:16] <Strangework> My computer has a tendency to hang at random moments, sometimes when I change songs in Rhythmbox, click on a link in Firefox, start a new application, anything. Intervals can be as little as 3 minutes to as long as a day. What could be the problem? I remember hearing someone on this chatroom say something about "nohz=off" or something of the sort.
[00:16] <cwillu> FrostRat, but that doesn't help ToastGuy for another few months
[00:16] <gravemind> why does gnome take so long to load folders with lots of folders in them?
[00:16] <bastid_raZor> crazyrk:: vi /etc/group and look to see if you are listed under admin:
[00:17] <ToastGuy> cwillu: gksudo "Missing command to run"
[00:17] <FrostRat> cwillu: Thx... I jumped in halfway through your conversation. :)  Sorry!
[00:17] <crazyrk> bastid_raZor: ok
[00:17] <cwillu> ToastGuy, gksudo update-manager -c
[00:17] <ToastGuy> cwillu: ahh
[00:17] <ToastGuy> cwillu: remember I'm totally novice
[00:17] <ToastGuy> cwillu: I understand more command line stuff
[00:17] <cwillu> Strangework, only thing I can think of off hand is to boot with nohz=off  noapic nolapic acpi=off and see if it works better
[00:17] <ToastGuy> cwillu: you'd be surprised
[00:18] <cwillu> ToastGuy, then open the d*** terminal :p
[00:18] <crazyrk> bastid_raZor: Im listed like adm:x:4:user
[00:18] <cwillu> ToastGuy, it's the same command either way
[00:18] <ToastGuy> cwillu: lol
[00:18] <Strangework> cwillu: How can I do that?
[00:18] <qwaz> holy cow....elinks pretty much owns lynx
[00:18] <ToastGuy> cwillu: but I'm also trying to learn ubuntu
[00:18] <cwillu> Strangework, reboot, hit escape for the grub menu, edit the kernel line (there's a key listed to do that), and add that gunk to the end of it
[00:18] <bastid_raZor> crazyrk:: adm and admin .. admin:x:110:you_here
[00:18] <jimmygoon> qwaz, so does firefox :D
[00:18] <cwillu> Strangework, same line as 'splash'
[00:19] <crazyrk> bastid_raZor: Ok
[00:19] <gravemind> hey -- does anyone know why it takes so long to load folders with lots in them (such as my music folder) and how can I fix that?
[00:19] <g0rb3hy> esteveryt: =s it was wrong, for some reason on the website the checkbox wasnt takeing me to the correct file, its ubuntu-7.10-alternate-amd64.iso
[00:19]  * pegwole yawn stretch grunt
[00:19] <abccat> Hey does anyone know how to be an online DJ with Rhythmbox?
[00:19]  * cwillu is going in about 5 minutes, fair warning
[00:19] <Strangework> cwillu: uh, okay, I will give that shot, thanks :)
[00:19] <qwaz> jimmygoon: yeah, but not as geeky :)
[00:19] <cwillu> ToastGuy, any luck?
[00:20] <crazyrk> bastid_raZor: yes, im listed like this, sounds like an HD problem here, since i created another user and gdm keeps complaining about disk space
[00:20] <gravemind> abccat: i did not know that was possible
[00:20] <bastid_raZor> crazyrk:: yeah, it does sound like hd issues.. good luck with buying a new one
[00:20] <cwillu> gravemind, there's a plugin I think
[00:21] <abccat> Well, I recently got an offer to become a DJ. Unfortunately, the "Free setup" guy doesn't know a thing about Linux broadcasters.
[00:21] <xoqa> found the answer to the ekiga error: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/178555
[00:21] <cwillu> abccat, no idea off hand, sorry;  I think there's a plugin, but google would probably be a better guide
[00:21] <gravemind> cwillu: a plugin that does what?
[00:21] <crazyrk> bastid_raZor: I have another one, i was specting something like this...
[00:21] <cwillu> gravemind, shoutcast streaming
[00:21] <gravemind> ah, ok
[00:21] <crazyrk> bastid_raZor: thanks for the help
[00:21] <bastid_raZor> crazyrk:: which brand and how old is the hdd?
[00:21] <ToastGuy> cwillu: nothing happens
[00:21] <crazyrk> bastid_raZor: its a maxtor from 2004
[00:21] <abccat> @ cwillu, it's not a shoutcast server?
[00:21] <thedoctor903> Does anyone know if it's possible to use a AVI file (or any format I can convert the file to) as a screensaver in Ubuntu 7.10?
[00:22] <jimmygoon> crazyrk, do a df in gnome-terminal
[00:22] <cwillu> ToastGuy, sorry, my bad again
[00:22] <wib> may i say that drive names in ubuntu are WAY TOO dynamic? you unmount a drive and the next drive changes from /media/disk-1 to /media/disk... you didn't want it to be /media/disk in the first place.. is there a way to assign a solid path to a certain device that isn't affected when you insert an SD card or soemthing?
[00:22] <crazyrk> bastid_raZor: but it has many heating issues, the new maxtor ones doesnt, but this keeps a lot of heat
[00:22] <cwillu> ToastGuy, gksudo "update-manager -c"
[00:22] <cwillu> ToastGuy, including the quote marks
[00:22] <bastid_raZor> crazyrk:: i have two maxtor 40G drives 6 years old.. a third one just recently died.. maxtor is a great brand
[00:22] <ToastGuy> cwillu: :D
[00:22] <crazyrk> jimmygoon: i cant access gnome, can i do this in normal terminal ?
[00:22] <thumbal> abccat: What are they using? Maybe you could google for an linux equiv...
[00:22] <cwillu> ToastGuy, gksudo is being silly with grabbing args obviously not meant for it ;p
[00:22] <jimmygoon> crazyrk, yep
[00:22] <cwillu> ToastGuy, that'll teach me to give command lines without trying them first ;p
[00:22] <thumbal> abccat, Or try wine...
[00:23] <crazyrk> bastid_raZor: yes, mine one is an 40G too, this one had some heating problems
[00:23] <ToastGuy> cwillu: lol
[00:23] <abccat> i'm not sure. it's a custom set up server. he suggested such things as "Winamp" and "SAM Broadcaster"
[00:23] <bastid_raZor> crazyrk:: more cooling? i thought the same when my drive went down.. i went over board and bought a larger case fan
[00:23] <zombiepig> hope someone can help - i installed 8.04 on a seperate partition on my hdd to test out. but after a kernel upgrade on hardy it looks like this test partition is now the one with grub installed on it - and i'd like to get it back to booting off my main gutsy partition, with the hardy one as an option
[00:23] <zombiepig> but i don't know how to move grub back to the main partition...
[00:23] <VSpike> can anyone tell me how I can get ubuntu to play http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/realplayer/media/fmg2.ram
[00:24] <cellofellow> hey, does anybody know why so many non-linear video editors have black GTK themes? LiVES and Cinelerra to name a few.
[00:24] <thumbal> SAM Broadcaster is a nice proggie for windows.. Umm hold up..
[00:24] <Dr_willis> Is there a ubuntu-wiki doc channel? Working on some wiki pages.. and wanting some feedback, and tips.
[00:24] <crazyrk> bastid_raZor: No, i have 2 drives in a big case, and the other one is always cold but this one is very HOT
[00:24] <n00bie> what guide would you recommend using for installing/configuring icecast + ices (to be used with mpd)
[00:24] <Rufus_> bye peoples
[00:24] <Odd-rationale> What is the command to install a deb from the CLI? I have the .deb downloaded already.
[00:24] <abccat> is 8.04 even out? i haven't seen it on ubuntu page
[00:24] <thedoctor903> Does anyone know if it's possible to use a AVI file (or any format I can convert the file to) as a screensaver in Ubuntu 7.10?
[00:24] <crazyrk> bastid_raZor: already tried to chance their places, but didn't work
[00:24] <cellofellow> Odd-rationale: sudo gdebi thefile.deb
[00:24] <kitche> abccat: officially no testing yes
[00:24] <bastid_raZor> crazyrk:: yeah.. heat is a killer for any electronics.
[00:24] <crazyrk> i tried the df thing, what can i do now ?
[00:25] <cellofellow> Odd-rationale: or sudo dpkg -i thefile.deb, but the former installs depends if needed.
[00:25] <crazyrk> bastid_raZor: Yes, but I'm already used to it, I've already had an Prescott :)
[00:25] <Odd-rationale> cellofellow: OK thanks! I don't gdebi anyways.
[00:25] <abccat> i can't wait. i installed a shell script (didn't know what that was at the time) and there doesn't seem to be an uninstall script. i'm stil lrather new. i'd rather reformat when the new distro comes out.
[00:25]  * cwillu is leaving now, last chance!
[00:25] <crazyrk> jimmygoon: tried it
[00:26] <kitche> abccat: usually shell scripts you just delete unless they have an installer
[00:26] <crazyrk> jimmygoon: it shows 33% use of hda1
[00:26] <Ademan> does anyone know how you can split $PATH into a bash array?
[00:26] <jimmygoon> crazyrk, hm, well, thats weird
[00:26] <abccat> eh but i installed using a script
[00:26] <cwillu> ToastGuy, I'm out of here, gl!
[00:26] <thumbal> abccat, Try this post, it mentions a few linux programs used for Radio broadcasting - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=121761
[00:26] <jimmygoon> I dunna why gnome is whinning about diskspace
[00:26] <abccat> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53755&highlight=Logitech+QuickCam
[00:26] <abccat> this thing didn't work
[00:26] <thumbal> abccat, Note XMMS is more of a Winamp clone.. it may have the same feature.
[00:26] <crazyrk> jimmygoon: me too
[00:26] <Dr_willis> Ademan,  i recall i think some examples of doing that in the advanced bash scripting guide
[00:26] <tdoggette> How can I upgrade my kernel (currently 2.6.22-14-generic x86_64) to 2.6.24.3-2.9 without breaking anything under Feisty?
[00:26] <abccat> thanks thumbal
[00:27] <Ademan> thanks Dr_willis i'm looking there right now, but no luck thus far
[00:27] <g0rb3hy> abccat: whats the product / vendor id of your cam?
[00:27] <abccat> er
[00:27] <peabody> Anyone have any idea what the latest updates did?  Some how, my tomboy notes got zapped
[00:27] <Dr_willis> Ademan,  its set of tokens seperated by : i  recall doing a similer thing in perl with like 2 lines. :) but i forget how/why
[00:28] <abccat> Logitech V-UAL9
[00:28] <abccat> ?
[00:28] <irotas> http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/m4w/533096562.html
[00:28] <crazyrk> well, ill check what i can do here, bye people
[00:28] <irotas> yikes
[00:28] <g0rb3hy> lsusb will tell u
[00:28] <peabody> I have a backup of some, but I lost something fairly important today.  I'm really curious as to what could have happened
[00:28] <Ademan> lol, yeah in most languages it's rather simple, i just don't know bash well enough to do it
[00:28] <abccat> aparently when i plug it in, it calls it a drive.. lol
[00:29] <thumbal> abccat,  Maybe it has some UDF drive on it for automatic installation of the Software?
[00:29] <ader10> cat "find /usr/src/linux-source/ -name '*.c'" returns the error cat: find /usr/src/linux-source/ -name '*.c': No such file or directory
[00:29] <pegwole> wow i have to stop daydreaming
[00:29] <ader10> any ideas?
[00:29] <abccat> i don't know. i just know it works on XP (which i deleted, and my dad can't find the product key anymore so it won't validate and is pointless)
[00:30] <thumbal> abccat, When you plug it into a windows computer? does the software install automaticly ?
[00:30] <Dr_willis> ader10,  whats the cat for? the default optuin for find i thouhg was to print the files found.
[00:30] <jrib> Dr_willis: #ubuntu-doc for feedback on the wiki (or try their mailing list if it is dead)
[00:30] <mckooter> i got a question, anyone have any luck using (or can help with) a ENLWI-G wireless card, my buddy (who cant come here himself as he has no internet, lol) has had nothing but problems with getting it to work (even using ndiswrapper)
[00:30] <peabody> Whatcha trying to do again abccat?
[00:30] <Dr_willis> jrib,  ok. Thanks. :) I just made my first wiki page.. and .. i named it wrong. :)
[00:30] <robertoshamerto>  
[00:30] <abccat> er i have vista, and i don't think it's compatible
[00:30] <abccat> tried many times
[00:30] <pegwole> mckooter ndiswrapper is the devil
[00:30] <abccat> i'm trying to get a webcam to work
[00:31] <abccat> so i can get ready for the new release (reformatting asap)
[00:31] <peabody> mckooter, no sorry.  What do the community docs say about that card?
[00:31] <ader10> Dr_willis: I'm trying to do this: http://micrux.net/?p=66
[00:31] <mckooter> pegwole: yeah i know, but apparently theres absolutely no support for ok. Thanks. :) I just made my first wiki page.. and .. i named it wrong. :)
[00:31] <mckooter> [19:30] <robertoshamerto>
[00:31] <mckooter> [19:30] <abccat> er i have vista, and i don't think it's compatible
[00:31] <mckooter> [19:30] * Zero1 (n=matthewd@ppp154-128.static.internode.on.net) has joined #ubuntu
[00:31] <mckooter> [19:31] <abccat> tried many times
[00:31] <jrib> mckooter: stop
[00:31] <mckooter> wtf
[00:31] <mckooter> wrong thing it copy
[00:31] <peabody> abccat what model webcam is it?
[00:32] <thumbal> Yeah, I just know with some products that they have a 'flash' drive in them.. this allows for CD less installs with proprietry software.. You need to disable the drive in order for it to work correctly.. no point in giving you the fix if that's not the case..
[00:32] <abccat> logitech V-UAL9
[00:32] <pegwole> mkcooter: what wifi card is it man?
[00:32] <mckooter> jrib: sorry, thought the network card was still on my clipboard, didnt realize
[00:32] <mckooter> ENLWI-G
[00:32] <Ximal> I would like to request help for an issue concerning a fresh install..
[00:32] <abccat> perhaps it has a flash drive, but i don't know how to disable. i'm used to running GUI everything windows.. -_-
[00:32] <Ximal> I am unable to get my wireless adapter or ati restricted drivers work..
[00:33] <pegwole> mkcooter i've never heard of it, who makes it?
[00:33] <Ximal> It says my drivers are not enabled.. how might I enable them please /
[00:33] <mckooter> pegwole: encore
[00:33] <mckooter> peg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833180030
[00:33] <peabody> abccat, hmm, google seems to tentatively suggest that that cam can be made to work...
[00:33] <pegwole> hrm is it broadcom based?
[00:33] <mckooter> his isnt the ENLWI-G2 though
[00:33] <abccat> well i googled up an incorrect article. so i don't know what to do.
[00:34] <ader10> Dr_willis: any ideas?
[00:34] <neil_d> I have a 'Agere Systems WinModem 56k' vendor id 0x11c1 product id 0x0449...  How do I find out if there is a Linux driver for this card ?
[00:34] <mckooter> peg: im not sure to be honest
[00:35] <abccat> @ peabody, can you send me the link you used to google? perhaps "ubuntu logitech V-UAL-9" isn't doing it for me
[00:35] <pegwole> well if it is then you can find the exact chipset and get the right drivers for ndiswrapper
[00:35] <peabody> just a sec...
[00:35] <cellofellow> !winmodem > neil_d
[00:35] <Ximal> I couldn't even do an install using the disc I got from canonical ... some kindof issue with the beta disc being theonly kernel i can install that will work upon install
[00:35] <DaRk-DuDe> .chatnet.org
[00:35] <mckooter> he has the right drivers for ndiswrapper but it constantly disconnects
[00:36] <pegwole> hrm, must just be a shitty card lol
[00:36] <peabody> Not a great link, but here it is: http://www.excito.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1935&sid=801d9e77581c5fe61e153168ad581b9f
[00:36] <mckooter> for some reason slax (slackware live cd) has absolutely no problem with it though
[00:36] <Tramp> Ademan: try: foo=($(echo $PATH | tr : ' '))
[00:36] <peabody> Mentions your cam and linux in the forum post
[00:36] <Ademan> thanks Tramp
[00:36] <pegwole> honestly i suggest getting a better one, i know that throwing more money at a problem rarely works, but the Belkin G notebook adapters work great
[00:37] <abccat> thanks peabody
[00:37] <pegwole> although they do use proprietary drivers, but most of the time it doesn't bother me
[00:37] <Ademan> Tramp: looks like it works, awesome, thanks
[00:37] <mckooter> peg: yeah, ill work on getting him to go that route, he's stubborn, lol
[00:37] <mckooter> thankgs peg
[00:37] <Tramp> Ademan: np
[00:37] <abccat> what is bubba ....
[00:38] <pegwole> not a problem man
[00:38] <Nessarose> can anyone help me with this issue http://pastebin.com/m1d8869d2
[00:39] <peabody> abccat got no clue, but the promising thing is there's someone in that forum that says they're using your cam with Linux
[00:39] <pegwole> mckooter if you need more help check #somehtiongkindatechy on occasion i'm in there
[00:39] <pegwole> #somethingkindatechy*
[00:39] <BlackCat> yeah
[00:39] <BlackCat> i'll bookmark it
[00:39] <peabody> abccat, what software did you try?
[00:39] <BlackCat> ?
[00:39] <BlackCat> well the camera wouldn't even load as a cemera.
[00:39] <Nessarose> can anyone help me with this issue http://pastebin.com/m1d8869d2
[00:39] <BlackCat> i used this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53755&highlight=Logitech+QuickCam
[00:40] <Odd-rationale> How do you disable the usplash on startup?
[00:40] <Dr_willis> ader10,  you did note  the "note the backquotes" note?"
[00:41] <peabody> Odd-rationale: if you use grub, edit the menu.lst and get rid of the splash option
[00:41] <Nessarose> can anyone help me with this issue http://pastebin.com/m1d8869d2
[00:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Nessarose: Please stop repeating.
[00:41] <Nessarose> can anyone help me with this issue http://pastebin.com/m1d8869d2
[00:41] <Nessarose> can anyone help me with this issue http://pastebin.com/m1d8869d2
[00:41] <Nessarose> can anyone help me with this issue http://pastebin.com/m1d8869d2
[00:41] <Nessarose> can anyone help me with this issue http://pastebin.com/m1d8869d2
[00:41] <IndyGunFreak> !splash | Odd-rationale i think peabody is right, or maybe this will help
[00:41] <Nessarose> :D
[00:41] <ubotu> Odd-rationale i think peabody is right, or maybe this will help: To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[00:41] <darklordveynom> how do i install my agp nvidia 7800 drivers without wanting to put a bullet in my head
[00:41] <Odd-rationale> peabody: OK I loked there. I lust haved missed it.
[00:42] <Odd-rationale> *must
[00:42] <g0rb3hy> The logitech quick cam for notebooks comes in quite a few flavours with quite a few different chips
[00:42] <nickrud> Nessarose: ask a question, don't just point at a link and expect us to figure out the issue
[00:42] <pegwole> posting your problem a housand times will not hel you get an answer
[00:42] <pegwole> help*
[00:42] <Nessarose> well my problem is that with cfdisk I can't see my main parition why is that?
[00:42] <pegwole> thousand*
[00:42] <renegade420> Okay im running Xubuntu. I failed to save an open office document and the recovery system was trying to recover it. It won't move past that window and on to my new document
[00:42] <pegwole> wow i can't type today
[00:42] <peabody> Nessarose: What kind of partition is it?
[00:42] <renegade420> I have to close open office in htop
[00:42] <Nessarose> resierfs
[00:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Nessarose: Also include a description of your problem so someone with experience in that area can look it over  Being rude and repeating after being asked not to is a good way to get ignored or booted out
[00:43] <peabody> Nessarose: Have you tried other tools?
[00:43] <Nessarose> yes I tried cfdisk and fdisk
[00:43]  * IndyGunFreak votes for booting out.. :)
[00:43] <renegade420> but if I try to open openoffice again it will once again try to recover the doc and I can't go into the new word doc
[00:43]  * nickrud thinks IndyGunFreak should not carry guns ;p
[00:43]  * Dr_willis hopes the guy is running cfdisk as root
[00:43] <peabody> Nessarose: Are you trying to recover the partition, or are you partitioning the space?
[00:44]  * IndyGunFreak is glad nickrud isn't president.. :)
[00:44] <Jack_Sparrow> already ignoring him...
[00:44] <Nessarose> I am parition the space
[00:44] <ader10> Dr_willis: yes, but I didn't understand it :P would you be kind enough to give me something in plain text I can copy?
[00:44] <IndyGunFreak> renegade420: have you tried this, create a document on your desktop(blank, it doesn't matter),. right click it,a nd choose to o pen it w/ open office.,
[00:45] <IndyGunFreak> renegade420: then close it properly, and restart OO.o
[00:45] <Dr_willis> ader ` is a backtick.. ' is a single quote..  the 2 work very differently :)
[00:45] <thumbal> anyone know where I can find the compiz-fuzion log, so I can sort out some crashing issues?
[00:45] <Dr_willis> oops wrong nick
[00:45] <peabody> Nessarose: ?? So, what's the problem exactly?  Are you saying you created a reiserfs partition on /dev/sda1 and it ends up being marked as some other kind of partition?
[00:45] <Dr_willis> ader10,  ` is a backtick.. ' is a single quote..  the 2 work very differently :)
[00:46] <ader10> Dr_willis: I'll try it again
[00:46] <Dr_willis> I forget whats the new better way of doing backticks.. was `command` the same as $(command)  ?
[00:46] <sfears> while compiling a new kernel i read that i could add modules (ndiswrapper, nvidia) to be included in the compile, what files & where do i need to put them to make sure they're included in the kpkg
[00:46] <sfears> ??
[00:46] <renegade420> IndyGunFreak, I tried to open opne office bt it still goes to this recovery window
[00:46] <peabody> Dr_willis: Yeah, what are you trying to do exactly?
[00:46] <ConstyXIV> how secure is wpa2/aes with a proper passphrase?
[00:47] <orionjoe> anyone know anything about subtitles?
[00:47] <IndyGunFreak> renegade420: even after you've opened a different file?
[00:47] <colourAgga> ConstyXIV: very secure
[00:47] <renegade420> IndyGunFreak, yah i tried to open the different file and it tries to recover this file.
[00:47] <thumbal> orionjoe, other then they show on the screen on a DVD no :)
[00:47] <Dr_willis> peabody,  helping ader10  hes reading some older guides that uses backticks. which are a bit  hard to see/read/understand. :)
[00:47] <peabody> sfears: I don't honestly know, I recompile ndiswrapper from source myself.  I set the KBUILD environment varible to the headres for the custom kernel
[00:47] <IndyGunFreak> renegade420: maybe try deleting the file?...
[00:47] <orionjoe> well, maybe if i describe my problem :P
[00:47] <IndyGunFreak> or moving it from the folder that OO.o is going to look for it.
[00:47] <renegade420> IndyGunFreak, i did not save it how doo i delete it?
[00:48] <IndyGunFreak> renegade420: oh i see, nevermind.
[00:48] <renegade420> or how do i move it?
[00:48] <orionjoe> i have a movie in avi format and i downloaded the czech subtitles for it
[00:48] <peabody> Dr_willis: Ah, okay.  Yeah, either ` ` or $( ) works fine.
[00:48] <Nessarose> peabody, my problem is I have a 20G swap I want to cut that space in half give half to swap half to a new parition I can't do that though cause my root linux parition shows up in cfdisk as free space
[00:48] <IndyGunFreak> renegade420: have you tried restarting X?
[00:48] <sfears> thanks peabody.. i'm pretty sure it can be done during the initial compile, anyone have any more info
[00:48] <orionjoe> but when i view the subtitles with text editor they don't look right
[00:48] <orionjoe> the characters are wrong
[00:48] <orionjoe> like a weird box instead of č
[00:49] <thumbal> orionjoe, Maybe you don't have support for czech characters installed..
[00:49] <thumbal> hold on..
[00:49] <OMGrant> I'm just going to put this request out there. I have a Radeon HD 2600 XT and I can't seem to get any support. Would someone be willing to PM me and help me out?
[00:49] <schnoowork> anyone ever have trouble with suspend/hibernate with ubuntu on laptops ?
[00:49] <peabody> sfears: It might be possible, only thing I can think of though is to patch your kernel source tree so it carries the ndiswrapper module.
[00:49] <orionjoe> i think i did everything to have support for czech characters
[00:49] <renegade420> IndyGunFreak, i did and openoffice still was trying to recover thefile...
[00:49] <ader10> Dr_willis: I'm very confused by this
[00:49] <osxdude> I'm getting the following error when I try to reload Synaptic, or install a package: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/Release.gpg: Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[00:49] <sfears> cool
[00:49] <peabody> Nessarose: Your root partition?
[00:49] <orionjoe> in language support, right?
[00:49] <Nessarose> peabody, yes
[00:49] <Nessarose> http://pastebin.com/m1d8869d2
[00:50] <Dr_willis> ader10,  cat `find /usr/src/linux-source/ -name ‘*.c’ | argshuf` would become   cat $(Whaterv)   with no backticks
[00:50] <IndyGunFreak> renegade420: i have no idea, maybe purge and reinstall.. never had that prob before.
[00:50] <Dr_willis> ader10,  bash basics here man. :) ` ` enclosed a command that is ran, and the output goes to the other commands.
[00:50] <thumbal> orionjoe, I'm not familiar with this myself.. just having a look now..
[00:50] <orionjoe> ok
[00:50] <peabody> Nessarose: Which is your root partition?  /dev/sda[1-3] ??
[00:50] <Nessarose> /dev/sda4
[00:50] <Dr_willis> ader10,  people just dont often see that they are backticks. :)
[00:50] <Nessarose> look at my mount and df command
[00:50] <jw--> Hi guys. I have burned 7.10 to CD at 4x, and when i boot up the machine to check the CD for errors, I get a line across the screen and a 7 digit number in the corner and the screen freezes and I have to hard reboot. Any ideas?
[00:50] <Dr_willis> ader10,  you do relize that you must use the proper path to the linux source, and that none is installed on ubutu by default.. :)
[00:51] <osxdude> Anyone know  why I get the following error when I try to reload Synaptic, or install a package?: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/Release.gpg: Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[00:51] <ader10> I've used linux for a few years (I'm still uninformed about a lot of it though due to lack of help-out-noob-ness) and never seen a back-tick :P
[00:51] <Dr_willis> ader10,  top left of the keyboard. :)
[00:51] <ader10> Dr_willis: I extracted the source to /usr/src/linux-source
[00:51] <thumbal> orionjoe, I think the Language support is for a USER to user basis. i.e it wont be loaded unless it's your default language, there must be someway to install the lingo pack to be available when needed..
[00:52] <peabody> osxdude: Good question, did you change your repositories to read from a local one run from your computer?  Check your sources list.
[00:52] <Dr_willis> ader10,  $() is the better way of doing the same thing as `` does. more readable.
[00:52] <orionjoe> i see
[00:52] <nickrud> osxdude: looks like you have a proxy setting in one of your /etc/apt/conf.d/ files
[00:52] <Nessarose> peabody, any idea?
[00:52] <orionjoe> so i can only use that language with a second user account?
[00:52] <osxdude> thanks peabody and nickrud
[00:52] <osxdude> oh wait
[00:52] <osxdude> I think I know what is up
[00:52] <dan__> osxdude
[00:52] <thumbal> You could, or have it as your default on the default user..
[00:52] <osx5> whats up
[00:52] <peabody> ader10: It's understandable you would never have seen a backtick, they're an old style shell output capture.  Lots of people still use them though because they more cross-platform.
[00:52] <thumbal> Hold up tho.. just looking if there is another way todo it
[00:53] <ader10> Dr_willis: :D I got it, because the site converted the quote marks to some strange format I had to change it for the console and accidentally swapped the `s for the 's and vice versa
[00:53] <ader10> Dr_willis: Thank you very much!
[00:53] <Dr_willis> ader10,  so you just installed some 20mb+ of source.. for a nice screensaver..... :P
[00:53] <ader10> Dr_willis: w00t
[00:53] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: May I pm?
[00:54] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow: any time, no need to ask
[00:54] <thumbal> orionjoe, Have you tried loading the AVI and the file in VLC media player, just to see if it works..?
[00:54] <orionjoe> yeah, it worked with totem. but in vlc the subtitles didn't show at all
[00:54] <thumbal> oh ok
[00:55] <BB88> Hello. Does anybody have any experience with VirtualBox OSE?
[00:55] <thumbal> It's just that you can't view them in the document correctly?
[00:55] <orionjoe> well, a little showed. anyways, it didn't work in vlc
[00:55] <orionjoe> both as a document and as subtitles
[00:55] <osxdude> Guess what: ls: /etc/apt/conf.d/: No such file or directory
[00:55] <BB88> How can I do this "Make sure that the user has write permissions for /dev/vboxdrv by adding them to the vboxusers groups."  ?
[00:55] <Artus> åñòü êóáóíòó 7.10 ìîæíî ëè ïðîèíñòàëèòü ñ æåñòêîãî äèñêà? îòñóòñòâóåòü ÑÄ
[00:55] <peabody> BB88: Not OSE, but I don't think they're too different, other than the USB support
[00:55] <inxane> brawearerguy?
[00:55] <thumbal> orionjoe, hrmm I couldn't find much on my google searches.. I gotta goto work! sorry dude..
[00:56] <BB88> peabody: How can I do this, Make sure that the user has write permissions for /dev/vboxdrv by adding them to the vboxusers groups?
[00:56] <osxdude> That isn't right, am I correct peabody or nickrud?
[00:56] <orionjoe> alright, thanks anyways
[00:56] <thumbal> np
[00:56] <peabody> BB88: Do you know how to change a file's mode? (chmod command)
[00:56] <thedoctor903> Anyone know how I can use an AVI as a screensaver?
[00:56] <BB88> peabody: Like 775 ?
[00:56] <nickrud> osx5: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d
[00:56] <osx5> ?
[00:56] <inxane> thedoctor903: fullscreen it and walk away
[00:56] <inxane> lol
[00:56] <peabody> BB88: yeah, that's part of it
[00:56] <osx5> nickru whats that for?
[00:56] <orionjoe> lol
[00:56] <osxdude> oh thanks nickrud
[00:56] <BB88> peabody: Probably be better if you just tell me word for word then =)
[00:56] <jw--> I have burned 7.10 to CD at 4x, and when i boot up the machine to check the CD for errors, I get a line across the screen and a 7 digit number in the corner and the screen freezes and I have to hard reboot. Any ideas?
[00:56] <thumbal> Try creating the second user with the default lingo pack as czech.. that could be a work around for now untill you find a decent fix.
[00:56] <osxdude> osx5 nick completion messed up
[00:57] <BraWearerGuy38B> Any guys here like to wear bras?
[00:57] <peabody> osxdude: What was that?  Sorry, I missed it...
[00:57] <orionjoe> i'll give it a try
[00:57] <osxdude> peabody ls: /etc/apt/conf.d/: No such file or directory
[00:57] <orionjoe> thanks
[00:57] <Jack_Sparrow> jw--: Did you md5 the file you used for the burn?
[00:57] <osx5> I am the true OSX in this channel lol :-p
[00:57] <inxane> BraWearerGuy38B: umm, no. my manboobs aren't big enough
[00:57] <nickrud> osx5: sorry about that :)
[00:57] <thumbal> np, gotta go! have a goodly day...
[00:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !md5
[00:57] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[00:57] <peabody> osxdude: You should be able to access your sources list from System -> Administration -> Software Sources
[00:57] <flacom> hey... I'm trying to compile a program with autoconf... but I get this aclocal: configure.ac: 54: macro `AM_PROG_CC_C_O' not found in library
[00:57] <flacom> any ideas?
[00:57] <jw--> yes i did that
[00:57] <osx5> ya what the heck is m5?
[00:57] <osx5> md5
[00:58] <Dr_willis> !md5
[00:58] <Jack_Sparrow> osx5: Checksum
[00:58] <osx5> whats a checksum
[00:58] <peabody> flacom: Try running aclocal
[00:58] <jw--> the hash was fine, i've tried 3 or 4 different cd's all the same result
[00:58] <BB88> peabody: Any ideas then?
[00:58] <Jack_Sparrow> osx5: Checksum is a way of verifying the integrity of a file.
[00:58] <osx5> oh ok
[00:59] <flacom> peabody: I get the same error
[00:59] <peabody> BB88: Sorry about that, got distracted...If I remember correctly, when I installed Virtual box, I remember creating a vboxusers group and adding myself to it.
[00:59] <Onyx> I understand that what I'm about to ask is a security issue... but I want to run a cron job as root (while logged into my user account).  Is this possible, or completely inadvisable?  Basically, I want to do updatedb so I can later locate stuff...
[00:59] <peabody> I thin that was all there was to it, there were detailed steps on the Ubuntu Community Documentation (wiki).
[01:00] <BB88> peabody: Can I not just do that through Users and Groups?
[01:00] <Onyx> ...And I want to do the whole system, which is why I want to do it as root.
[01:00] <BB88> Ok, I think I got it. Thank you peabody .
[01:00] <peabody> Onyx: updatdb *is* run from cron.  Why don't you just move its script so it runs more frequently?
[01:00] <Artus> ðóñêèé ñàïîð åñòü?
[01:00] <Onyx> peabody: _oh_ :P -- where can I pull that up to edit it?
[01:00] <Artus> ñàïîðò*
[01:01] <peabody> Onyx: Not a matter of editing, it's a matter of moving, /etc/cron.hourly /etc/cron.daily /etc/cron.weekly  <-- those are folders where most of the scheduled stuff runs from.  Pretty self explanatory.
[01:01] <Onyx> peabody: All right, thanks
[01:02] <peabody> flacom: sorry obut that
[01:02] <peabody> was distracted.
[01:02] <peabody> Well, are you trying to make the configure script?
[01:02] <flacom> yep
[01:02] <Flare183> What is with the random symbols?
[01:02] <Artus> êàê ïðîèíñòàëèòü ubuntu ñ æåñòêîãî ïðè îòñóòñòâèè ïðèâîäà?
[01:02] <osx5> whats the main IM app for xfce?
[01:03] <peabody> flacom: Basically it's an m4 error, it's complaining that it doesn't have a definition of that macro in the configure.ac.  Provided you have the very latest autoconf stuff installed, those things are rarely a problem.
[01:03] <BB88> Well that has to be my quickest Windows XP Professional Install of 5 Minutes, heh.
[01:03] <d03boy> how to set up WPA with ndiswrapper?!
[01:03] <Flare183> osx5: i though it was pidgn
[01:03] <Flare183> pigden
[01:03] <osx5> k
[01:03] <Flare183> crap i can't spell
[01:04] <flacom> peabody: the program I downloaded from the svn... and the system has been upgrade today
[01:04] <peabody> d03boy: What are using to configure your wireless adapter?
[01:04] <flacom> peabody: so.. hte versions would be the lastest
[01:04] <pegwole> i swear i love playing Sys Admin lol i've had five calls just now on computer stuff
[01:04] <osx5> playing sys admin?
[01:05] <peabody> flacom: couple of things then...it's either very old, or very new.  You may have to install a fresh autoconf from source, or hack the configure.ac file yourself.  Is there a file called autogen in the folder?
[01:05] <osx5> how can someone play being a sys admin lol
[01:05] <flacom> peabody: yep..
[01:05] <d03boy> peabody, well I used to use WEP
[01:06] <d03boy> peabody, so I used Wireless Assistant
[01:06] <d03boy> now I need to use WPA so I use... ?
[01:06] <d03boy> something simple I hope?
[01:06] <pegwole> it's easy, do the job on your off hours and don't get paid, that's how you play Sys Admin
[01:07] <pegwole> action figures optional
[01:07] <peabody> d03boy: Wireless Assistant??  You mean Network Manager?
[01:07] <pegwole> voodoo dools are required though
[01:07] <pegwole> dolls*
[01:07] <kernco> What packages do I need to reconfigure so that Ubuntu will try to detect my graphics card and setup the xorg.conf file?
[01:07] <Flare183> !offtopic
[01:07] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:07] <WindowSmasher> !flash
[01:07] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[01:07] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[01:07] <Flare183> kernco: xorg
[01:07] <peabody> kernco: What graphics card do you have?
[01:08] <kernco> NVIDIA 8300 GS
[01:08] <osx5> its easy to install flash, download the deb pack and right click on it and hit terminal an it'll run it
[01:08] <Flare183> kernco: sudo dpkg --reconfigure xorg
[01:08] <IdleOne> can rhythmbox play mp3's from a smb share on a windows network?
[01:08] <macd> kernco, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' then choose nvidia over nv.
[01:08] <macd> or what Flare183 said.
[01:09] <rchen625> Ubuntu's startup process is quite slow
[01:09] <Flare183> IdleOne: first you must make sure you can play mp3's first
[01:09] <Flare183> IdleOne: can you?
[01:09] <d03boy> peabody, Wireless Assistant (Wireless LAN Manager) is the name it has
[01:09] <ader10> Dr_willis: Ahh, my 239.7mb screensaver is lookin' good! Again, thanks for the help.
[01:09] <IdleOne> Flare183: yes
[01:10] <peabody> d03boy: And you're running Ubuntu not Kubuntu or Xubuntu?
[01:10] <Flare183> IdleOne: umm nope rythmbox can't
[01:10] <IdleOne> flare when I try to go to smb://192.168.1.5 rhytmbox adds network:// in front of it
[01:10] <wweasel> I want to move an entire partition from one hard drive to my new larger one. I have booted into a Live CD, what is the best way to go about it? I am thinking: make a partition of the same size, then dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1.  Thoughts?
[01:10] <IdleOne> Flare183: you know of a player that can?
[01:10] <d03boy> peabody, im running kubuntu dapper but they're useless in that channel
[01:11] <IdleOne> !away | amidaniel|away
[01:11] <ubotu> amidaniel|away: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntunel - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also !Guidelines
[01:11] <callas> hello
[01:11] <Flare183> IdleOne: try dragging a file that is on the smb network to rhythmbox and try that
[01:11] <peabody> d03boy: Oh, okay...well I don't run Kubuntu so I'm not sure how much help I can actually be.  ubuntu uses a different network program to my knowledge.  It's called Network Manager.
[01:11] <Flare183> !hi | callas
[01:11] <ubotu> callas: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:11] <Flare183> peabody: yeah and the kde program for it is knetworkmanager
[01:11] <Kniggit> hi everybody
[01:11] <Flare183> peabody: i know i am using kubuntu
[01:12] <Flare183> !hi | Kniggit
[01:12] <ubotu> Kniggit: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:12] <Kniggit> thanks.  I just installed xubuntu but this channel is more lively :)
[01:12] <IdleOne> Flare183: that did not work
[01:12] <peabody> Flare183: Cool, could you help d03boy?  He says he's having trouble connecting with WPA
[01:12] <Kniggit> and you guys seem more helpful ATM
[01:12] <wweasel> IdleOne: Very few audio players can play files off an smb network. I know amarok can't for one. Totem can. Not exactly an audio manager though. just a player.
[01:12] <Flare183> IdleOne: beats me then keep asking around
[01:12] <Flare183> peabody: i can try
[01:12] <Flare183> lets see
[01:13] <wweasel> I want to move an entire partition from one hard drive to my new larger one. I have booted into a Live CD, what is the best way to go about it? I am thinking: make a partition of the same size, then dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1.  Thoughts?
[01:13] <Flare183> !wpa | d03boy
[01:13] <ubotu> d03boy: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:13] <Flare183> crap let me read that first
[01:13] <peabody> lol @ Flare183
[01:13] <Jack_Sparrow> wweasel: add bs=4k to speed up the dd
[01:13] <d03boy> that site has WAAAAAY too many links. I can't read all of that
[01:13] <wweasel> Jack_Sparrow: What will that change?
[01:13] <IdleOne> wweasel: dd prolly would work best
[01:13] <Flare183> peabody, d03boy: have you tried this yet: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo/Kubuntu
[01:14] <callas> you tell me
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> wweasel: It is the size of the buffer/blocks that it copies over
[01:14] <d03boy> that tutorial assumes you have Edgy installed
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> wweasel: Let me find the info on that for you
[01:14] <Flare183> d03boy: so... same thing even between releases
[01:14] <peabody> d03boy: Do you know for a fact that instructions for Edgy won't work in the version you're running currently?
[01:15] <neuro_sys> about
[01:15] <osx5> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Join+the+Revolution?content=73194  NICE WALLPAPER  comrads
[01:15] <osx5> !fonts
[01:15] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> wweasel: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Dd
[01:15] <peabody> d03boy: It's worth a shot.
[01:15] <wweasel> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks
[01:15] <Onyx> Is there a program i can use to resolve the exact URL this file is downloading from?  https://crl.chamb.disa.mil/getcrlzip?ALL+CRL+ZIP
[01:15] <Flare183> d03boy: yeah peabody is right
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:16] <peabody> Onyx: In what sense?  wget will echo the redirects it receives...
[01:16] <IdleOne> Flare183: dragging and dropping the file did work. just took a bit for the file to move over. thanks for the push in the right direction
[01:16] <Flare183> IdleOne: oh no problem
[01:17] <Onyx> peabody: Yeah, I gave wget a go, and it starts downloading the file, but when it finishes the file is nowhere to be found... basically, I want to use wget to download the file directly without the redirect, but it's not telling me where it redirects to exactly.
[01:17] <Hammer89> When I boot up Ubuntu the graphical "progress bar" doesn't show up... the screen is just black till it loads... any ideas?
[01:18] <peabody> Onyx: ...?  So, the file is being downloaded, but it isn't there in the folder you're in?
[01:18] <Onyx> peabody: correct.
[01:18] <ryanakca> Umm... why is my usb thumb drive being mounted to /proc?
[01:18] <peabody> Have you tried an ls -at
[01:19] <peabody> ryanakca: Is there nothing under /media?
[01:19] <Ignacio> hello i need to practice my english ... anybody wants to talk ?
[01:19] <Pici> ryanakca: Mounted to /proc?! thats not right..
[01:19] <ryanakca> peabody: no
[01:19] <ryanakca> Pici: no. At least that's what KControl / System Settings is showing me
[01:19] <peabody> ryanakca: is something coming up that allows you to write to it?
[01:19] <ryanakca> peabody: no.
[01:20] <Pici> Ignacio: This is a support channel, not a chat channel, try ##linguistics, #defocus or #ubuntu-offtopic.  Thanks.
[01:20] <peabody> ryanakca: It is probably not mounting under proc per se... usb devices will show up their because the /proc filesystem is a special in memory filesystem that represents things in the kernel.
[01:21] <peabody> ryanakca: What's happening is it's not being mounted at all probably, for whatever reason.  Have you been able to write to it before?
[01:21] <crazyrk> hi, can someone help me ? im having problems with gdm
[01:21] <peabody> crazyrk: just ask your question
[01:21] <ryanakca> peabody: yes, usually kio_media_mounthelper (??) pops up a window asking me if I want to mount, etc.
[01:22] <reverendnathan> What's an alternitive archive extractor to ark?
[01:22] <crazyrk> peabody: Well, one user permissions are broken out, I don't know how this happened, and gdm is complaining about setuid or setgid when another user tries to login...
[01:22] <peabody> ryanakca: couple of things may have happened.  Have you rebooted?  Does it persist after reboot?  What does a partition tool say about the drive when it's plugged in?
[01:22] <reverendnathan> What's the default one for Gnome?
[01:23] <peabody> crazyrk: it's complaining...is that all it's doing?
[01:23] <peabody> reverendnathan: file-roller
[01:24] <crazyrk> peabody: When i try to login with one user, the one with the perm problems, it gives a message that says that or the disk is full or the user has no permissions to execute/write gdm and the home folder
[01:24] <Randompolygamy> Anyone know why the dependencies for yahoo will not install from an apt get? here my pastebin http://pastebin.ca/850169
[01:24] <crazyrk> peabody: when the other user tries to login, it can't and gdm shows the message about setuid or setgid
[01:25] <peabody> crazyrk: Has this user been able to login properly before?
[01:25] <Suren> excuse me, could i have some help on rsyncing with ssh from a windows pc to an ubuntu pc?
[01:25] <Hammer89> *tries once more* When I boot up Ubuntu the graphical "progress bar" doesn't show up... the screen is just black till it loads... any ideas?
[01:25] <crazyrk> peabody: yes
[01:25] <JohnnyNoBueno> Just installed Gutsy Gibbon and can't get SCSI to work.  Any ideas??
[01:25] <Nicolaidis> hy
[01:25] <Nicolaidis> can i mount osx leopard in VirtualBox?
[01:25] <peabody> Suren: rsync -aP -e ssh folder user@host:.
[01:26] <peabody> crazyrk: What did the user do recently?  Was the chmod command used recently?
[01:27] <peabody> Is it just me?  Or did lots of people just leave?
[01:27] <crazyrk> peabody: no, the graphical interface froze some time ago and i had some problems with /tmp, when I got problems about permissions i tried to chmod it's home folder with root, and it didn't work, even with 777 or 644
[01:27] <peabody> crazyrk: Are you sure the disk isn't full?  Both / and /home?
[01:28] <crazyrk> peabody: yes, when i do a df, it shows the disk is only 33% used
[01:28] <wickedrash> hello
[01:28] <kirk> hello
[01:29] <gcleric> hi!
[01:29] <wickedrash> ubuntu help available here?
[01:29] <peabody> Try running this on the users folder as root: chown -R user:user /home/user
[01:29] <crazyrk> peabody: how can i check if home is full ? root isn't
[01:29] <peabody> where user is the user's username
[01:29] <kirk> whoami
[01:29] <crazyrk> ok
[01:29] <sudobash> join #C++
[01:29] <Pici> wickedrash: yep, just ask.
[01:29] <sudobash> oops
[01:29] <peabody> crazyrk: df will tell you how much space is on /home, if you don't see a /home, it means you share /home on /, which would mean /home has free space.
[01:29] <JoeThomas> Hi, is there an option to add tab-completion in nano?
[01:30] <wickedrash> I am working with bacula...and a 40/80 DLT but having trouble
[01:30] <peabody> JoeThomas: Don't know.  Any reason it has to be nano?  vim or emacs are totally worth the learn
[01:30] <JoeThomas> peabody: nah, no reason. Doesn't matter, whichever will allow me to use tab completion.
[01:31] <crazyrk> peabody: Yes, i tried with chown but i'm with the same problem, looks like it's making / my home everytime I login, as it says on the terminal, how can i change user's home ?
[01:31] <wickedrash> I can't get bacula-web to see the DB
[01:31] <peabody> JoeThomas: they'll both do it, and I could tell you how to do it in both.
[01:31] <JoeThomas> peabody: nano :)
[01:32] <apathy> Hey I got ubuntu 64 installed finally right now
[01:32] <peabody> crazyrk: what is the output of ls -ld /home/user
[01:32] <crazyrk> peabody: drw-r--r--
[01:33] <peabody> crazyrk: AHAHAH!  well, we've just solved your problem, do a chmod 755 /home/user as root
[01:33] <apathy> I was wondering if google video works for anyone
[01:33] <crazyrk> peabody: ok
[01:33] <peabody> crazyrk: For future reference, it's very important that directories have their execute bit set
[01:33] <soldats> apathy, yes
[01:34] <crazyrk> peabody: haha, you are a genious
[01:34] <wickedrash> Anyone know anything about bacula?
[01:34] <apathy> does it play in fullscreen?
[01:34] <apathy> I can get it to show up in normal size but when I try to resize google videos they disappear but the sound keeps going
[01:34] <peabody> wickedrash: heard about it, never used it.  I just rsync my stuff
[01:34] <crazyrk> peabody: has any idea with the other problem ?
[01:34] <mnemonica> Hello, ubuntu! ^_^   I just got AWN (pretty friggin cool) installed and whatnot. But when I attempt to add a launcher by dragging a wine executable app to the dock, it doesn't do anything... What's up?
[01:34] <apathy> youtube works good though
[01:35] <soldats> apathy, i run it fullscreen, i have no clue why it wouldnt work though
[01:35] <wickedrash> 10-4
[01:35] <crazyrk> peabody: Ok, living 'n learning :)
[01:35] <peabody> crazyrk: what other problem?  That should solve it, once you've don that chmod, login as that user, I'm pretty sure that should fix it
[01:35] <apathy> do you have 64-bit?
[01:35] <wickedrash> I am just wanting to send data to tape
[01:35] <soldats> no
[01:35] <crazyrk> peabody: Ok, thanks :)
[01:35] <apathy> ok
[01:35] <soldats> 64bit is sketchy
[01:36] <apathy> yea I heard, I was hoping to figure it out
[01:36] <apathy> so far ubuntu is cool though, I like it
[01:36] <Pici> wickedrash: You may want to try asking in #ubuntu-server as well, this channel usually ends up being for more 'end user' questions :)
[01:36] <Slart> !hardy
[01:36] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[01:36] <noonan> wow, i think ubuntu just saved my whole music collection
[01:37] <wickedrash> thanks pici
[01:37] <silent_> noonan: ubuntu needs music... it feeds on it
[01:37] <apathy> I just installed the 64bit version and I'm wondering what else I need to do, do I need java or anything?
[01:37] <crazyrk> peabody: Now I have the same problem of gmd for both users, about setgid and setuid, it talks about a website: http://www.gtk.org/setuid.html, can you check it for me since I'm without X right now ?
[01:38] <silent_> apathy: if you're going to run java applets you sure do
[01:38] <peabody> crazyrk: Can you somehow typeout the message here if possible?
[01:38] <apathy> ok
[01:38] <noonan> silent_: yeah but what I'm talking about is a totally dead hard drive - 300gb worth - half full of music
[01:38] <apathy> I've never used linux either by the way lol
[01:38] <silent_> apathy: if you're asking what you need to do if you have 64 bit, I'd really suggest you install 32 bit, or book a few weeks off
[01:38] <noonan> or at least dead to windows
[01:38] <apathy> haha
[01:39] <peabody> noonan: cool, what did you use to recover it?
[01:39] <JoeThomas> peabody: got that howto? :)
[01:39] <silent_> noonan: you're making me want to go buy more hard drives for mirroring :S
[01:39] <apathy> I was expecting some difficulties
[01:39] <BB88> peabody: Any ideas how to share folders between Guest and Host?
[01:39]  * peabody needs his memory jogged...Howto?
[01:39] <noonan> nothin! just plugged it in internally to my new ubuntu system and  voila, back to life
[01:39] <apathy> so far I like it though, I got sound going and youtube works
[01:39] <JoeThomas> peabody: tab completetion in nano.
[01:39] <darklordveynom> when i install the nvidia driver that i downloaded from their site and reboot i get "Fatal: error running install command for nvidia". how can i resolve this?
[01:39] <silent_> apathy: get 32 bit, 64 bit for a first-timer will not be pleasant... and there's no big performance hit
[01:39] <peabody> BB88: sure, through smb or nfs, what do you need?
[01:39] <silent_> how much ram are you using?
[01:40] <peabody> JoeThomas: Not for nano, for vim or emacs :)
[01:40] <JoeThomas> Ahh vim then
[01:40] <noonan> like, I had my IT guy at work try everything, plug it into his windows machine, run stuff on it - nothing
[01:40] <silent_> noonan: well, thats the problem, he was on windows
[01:40] <BB88> peabody: Well I am just trying to share a folder, so I can install VB6 on XP through the Virtual thing?
[01:40] <silent_> he probably needed the drivers or to go into the control panel or some crap
[01:40] <apathy> silent, do you have 32bit ?
[01:40] <peabody> JoeThomas: Okay, you can tab complete a filename to edit by using :edit some_letters_of_this_filename_<Tab>
[01:40] <silent_> you know, windows things
[01:41] <crazyrk> peabody: Ok, here it goes: "Your session only lasted less than 10 seconds. If you have not logged out yourself, this could mean that there is some installation problem or that you may been out of diskspace. Try logging in with one of the failsafe sessions to see if you can fix this problem."
[01:41] <silent_> apathy: I do, on a 64-bit capable processor no less
[01:41] <JoeThomas> peabody: No, I mean...
[01:41] <peabody> JoeThomas: Or, if you're in a file you're editing, you can use ^X^F in insert mode to complete a filename
[01:41] <apathy> oh alright
[01:41] <crazyrk> peabody: It has more in ~/.xsession-errors
[01:41] <silent_> apathy: my server is 64 bit though
[01:41] <noonan> seriously
[01:41] <apathy> shoot, cuz I just got it all installed finally and most of it works pretty good
[01:41] <peabody> crazyrk: did you try logging in with a failsafe session?
[01:42] <silent_> apathy: if you want to get internet plugins working, just get 32 bit
[01:42] <noonan> i can't understand though, i mean,  this was an external drive it used to freeze any windows box it was plugged into
[01:42] <JoeThomas> peabody: I want to be able to do tab-completion, but for php. Such as if I enter the method 'ldap_...', it would come up with methods starting with ldap_
[01:42] <silent_> get the alternate install cd, faster and easier
[01:42] <noonan> anyway, I'm done, but wow
[01:42] <apathy> alright
[01:42] <apathy> ok
[01:42] <crazyrk> peabody: No, I only got to this stage with your help :) I'll try it now, thanks...
[01:42] <peabody> JoeThomas: CTRL-N or CTRL-P in insert mode
[01:42] <JoeThomas> peabody: okay.
[01:42] <silent_> apathy: just play around with stuff while it downloads... get familiar with the interfaces
[01:42] <peabody> JoeThomas: That works if you have the method already typed in the file.
[01:42] <silent_> apathy: the install doesnt take long at all
[01:43] <silent_> you'll be up and running in no time
[01:43] <peabody> JoeThomas: If not, tags files can help with that.
[01:43] <apathy> ok
[01:43] <JoeThomas> peabody: alright.
[01:43] <apathy> I like ubuntu alot though so far
[01:43] <wickedrash> ubuntu-server room is about as dry as a popcorn fart
[01:43] <wickedrash> :)
[01:43] <silent_> apathy: good, so do I
[01:43] <noonan> I got some problems with mythtv still though
[01:43] <silent_> apathy: you'll only discover more good things as you go along
[01:43] <apathy> sweet
[01:43] <mnemonica> REPEATING:: Hello, ubuntu! ^_^   I just got AWN (pretty friggin cool) installed and whatnot. But when I attempt to add a launcher by dragging a wine executable app to the dock, it doesn't do anything... What's up?
[01:44] <ozzloy> i have sound in my headphones, but not in my speakers
[01:44] <ozzloy> how do i fix this?
[01:44] <silent_> apathy: and maybe even some classic linux bad things, but those can be overcome easily. The community is very large and the forum is very useful
[01:44] <mnemonica> apathy: I can attest to that.
[01:44] <apathy> ok
[01:44] <BB88> mnemonica: You need to right click AWN and select Preferences. Then add your credentials ijn Launchers.
[01:45] <silent_> apathy: the thing that wows me most about linux is the superior sound architecture
[01:45] <wickedrash> I have tried a blue ton of linux distros and this is the one I found reasonably easy to learn
[01:45] <BB88> peabody: Any luck?
[01:45] <apathy> yea
[01:45] <peabody> BB88: Sorry, what did you need again?
[01:45] <mnemonica> BB88: Right, I figured I'd have to use the actual launcher adderthingy... But I don't know how to add the credentials. What would I put?
[01:46] <Ximal> hey guys .... is it a bug whenever you use the OEM cd from ubuntu to install on a 64 bit system and u get a blank screen after you install ?
[01:46] <BB88> peabody:  Well I am just trying to share a folder, so I can install VB6 on XP through the Virtual thing?
[01:46] <silent_> wickedrash: you probably just learned from each until you got here and knew enough. Most linux distros today are the same (in each gnome/kde family), with the exception of their package manager and various bits and pieces
[01:46] <Ximal> I can't install unless I used the beta disc
[01:46] <apathy> my computer was too old to upgrade to vista and I didn't have enough money for a whole new computer so I figured I'd try ubuntu
[01:46] <silent_> but the overall experience in Ubuntu is very nice
[01:46] <apathy> I wanted a mac though
[01:46] <mnemonica> apathy: Good call. lol
[01:46] <ozzloy> i have sound in my headphones, but not in my speakers.  how do i fix this?
[01:46] <wickedrash> true
[01:46] <peabody> BB88: Oh, I haven't haven't messed with shared folders in virtual box.  Sorry, thought you meant in ubuntu in general
[01:46] <silent_> apathy: It's amazing what linux can do with old hardware, truly
[01:46] <peabody> BB88: However, from my understanding it's not very hard.
[01:46] <wickedrash> I don't use gui's though
[01:46] <BB88> mnemonica: Ignore "credentials", I was just being fancy, but I guess you could call them that. Go to add, then go to /usr/bin/ and find the executable file, and add the name of the program etc.
[01:47] <apathy> yea
[01:47] <BB88> peabody: So it seems, but not having much luck.
[01:47] <silent_> apathy: my athlon xp 1.6Ghz machine was more responsive at times than my E6300 Core 2 Duo 3Ghz, 4GB memory machine running vista
[01:47] <david__> Hello Is there a scanner program that will work with the Canon 8400F Scanner?
[01:47] <mnemonica> BB88: it requires wine... will it get that automatically?
[01:47] <peabody> Well folks, gotta take a break.  Ciao
[01:48] <smultron_> where's the place to configure LDAP settings in Evolution?
[01:48] <BB88> mnemonica: Yes it will, but you will not get the icon of the file I believe. Instead, some weird spring icon =)
[01:48] <tailsfan> Hello, I'm trying to install World of Warcraft on Ubuntu, but the tutorial is for the CDs of WoW andc I have the DVD and I see no Installer.exe
[01:48] <mnemonica> BB88: Ah. Ok... Awesome. I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks for the help! :)
[01:48] <apathy> haha I know, I heard vista bogs computers down
[01:49] <BB88> mnemonica: No worries and good luck!
[01:49]  * marcx bru noc
[01:49] <crazyrk> Hi, I was here some time ago
[01:50] <crazyrk> talking with peanut...
[01:50] <mnemonica> apathy: Yeah man, Vista blows... I just got rid of my Vista partition a couple of days ago. I was dual-booting Vista and Ubuntu. But after a couple of months with Ubuntu on my system, I just got to the point that I didn't even boot into Vista anymore. lol
[01:50] <bajun> Hello! Question - How to flash bios on HP Compaq laptop in ubuntu?
[01:50] <david__> Any scanner programs for Ubuntu that work?
[01:50] <tailsfan> xsane?
[01:50] <crazyrk> peanutbody
[01:51] <crazyrk> Is recovery mode a failsafe mode ?
[01:51] <apathy> yea I deleted everything and just decided to go all ubuntu
[01:51] <ZiNC2^6> bajun: Don't they offer bootable media?
[01:51] <BB88> peabody: Try looking at this link http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/VirtualBox#Sharing_folders_between_the_host_and_the_guest I am just flat out confused! =)
[01:51] <david__> I tried xsane it did not work.
[01:51] <crazyrk> peabody: Is recovery mode a failsafe mode ? And what am I meant to do there ?
[01:52] <apathy> what's that program that helps you install things? It started with an A
[01:52] <tailsfan> Automatix
[01:52] <apathy> oh yea
[01:52] <th0r> apathy aptitude
[01:52] <Blair> adept
[01:52] <BB88> Add/Remove? =)
[01:52] <dsnyders> apt-get
[01:52] <th0r> apathy avoid automatix
[01:52] <crazyrk> :)
[01:52] <apathy> lol no it was automatix
[01:52] <bajun> ZiNC2^6: No, that was with vista preinstalled.
[01:52] <apathy> oh no good?
[01:52] <Blair> thers alot
[01:52] <th0r> apathy it has some problems and can get you into some appreciable trouble
[01:52] <apathy> oh ok
[01:53] <apathy> thanks
[01:53] <david__> Does anybody else here have a scanner that works on Ubuntu?
[01:53] <ZiNC2^6> bajun: BIOS updates are in many cases something that's done thru DOS. So they offer a bootable floppy/CD image/etc.
[01:53] <BB88> peabody: Any ideas from that link then?
[01:53] <Pici> !scanner | david__
[01:53] <ubotu> david__: Scanning software: XSane, the GIMP (GNOME), Kooka (KDE). For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners - See also !OCR
[01:54] <ForgetYouNot> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5547481422995115331&q=zeitgeist&total=2569&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
[01:54] <Torbul> In what circumstances would Ubuntu Server Edition be better to use than Debian Sarge or Etch!?!?!?!?
[01:54] <ForgetYouNot> go now
[01:54] <ForgetYouNot> Zeitgeist
[01:54] <ForgetYouNot> watch it
[01:54] <Pici> !offtopic | ForgetYouNot
[01:54] <ubotu> ForgetYouNot: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:55] <bajun> ZiNC2^6: Maybe some live CD or another madia to download. Any idea? On hp.com is one flash utility for windows.
[01:55] <mnemonica> BB88: Hey, found the .exe I was looking for and gave the add manager the file path but it still isn't on the dock. It's showing up in the preferences window, but not on the dock itself.
[01:55] <dsnyders> Any software recommendations for backing up a 40G drive to DVD?
[01:55] <BB88> mnemonica: You need to restart AWN for it take effect.
[01:55] <Torbul> Is there any reasons to use Ubuntu Server Edition over Debian Sarge or Etch????
[01:55] <crazyrk> dsnyders: tar bz2 and k3b
[01:55] <mnemonica> BB88: Heh... I should be smart enough to try that on my own by now...
[01:55] <ZiNC2^6> bajun: Gotta be something bootable. Trying to update firmware on non supported OSes doesn't sound good. :)
[01:56]  * mnemonica slaps himself
[01:56] <mnemonica> BB88: Thanks.
[01:56] <LjL> Torbul: some say security updates are more timely.
[01:56] <BB88> mnemonica: No problem =)
[01:56] <tailsfan> k3b Rulez! :)
[01:56] <scrounch> yeah!
[01:56] <crazyrk> graveman too
[01:56] <Blair> Torbul: i thought is as considerably easyer to install and if nessary nstall a desktop interface over
[01:56] <Torbul> LjL: k thx
[01:56] <Blair> npm
[01:57] <mattgyver83> Hi room, has anyone setup bluetooth via usb adapter with ubuntu (7.04) ?
[01:57] <dsnyders> crazyrk, are you suggesting that I make ISOs and then burn them.  I don't have the space.
[01:57] <Torbul> Blair: Gotcha
[01:57] <crazyrk> dsnyders: No, I was suggesting you to compact data before recording :)
[01:58] <Tanokai> Hello everone, I have an ATI card,  I'm trying to get WoW to work. I understand that they're behind on linux drivers, but I know people have gotten it to work in the past. Cana anyone help me?
[01:58]  * Pelo 's new favorite for the hardy default theme  > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Kerberos
[01:58] <crazyrk> Tanokai: Are you trying to do it with WINE ?
[01:58] <Tanokai> Right now, WoW is running, but very, very slowly
[01:58] <Tanokai> crazyrk: yes
[01:58] <crazyrk> Tanokai: Well, it won't work that fast, what card are you using ?
[01:59] <Torbul> If I were to want to stream video over my network and the internet (NOT in a web browser) via Ubuntu, what should I do? Is there some sort of media server?
[01:59] <Tanokai> crazyrk: I'm not exactly sure, how can I check?
[01:59] <Blair> get an nvidia card Tanokai there fully compatale
[01:59] <tailsfan> Who in here plays WoW on ubuntu anyway?
[01:59] <apathy> do I need to install nvidia drivers for my motherboard?
[01:59] <dsnyders> crazyrk, so, I tar/zip and create a compressed file?
[01:59] <Tanokai> It's a laptop, I don't really have that option
[01:59] <crazyrk> dsnyders: Yes, .tar.bz2 is btter than zip
[02:00] <Blair> Torbul: try vlc (or video lan client)
[02:00] <Blair> its easy
[02:00] <tailsfan> Yeah
[02:00] <crazyrk> Tanokai: Hm, you can check it on /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:00] <subhan> i am playing with netboot,i got one problem while booting the client machine
[02:00] <tailsfan> but sometimes, VLC can be laggy with Video Playback
[02:00] <Blair> nver hapened to me
[02:00] <dsnyders> crazyrk, how do I split that across multiple DVDs?
[02:00] <crazyrk> Tanokai: The device section should show it, but don't modify this file...
[02:00] <apathy> ok I have to restart I will be back in a while
[02:00] <Suren> can anyone show me how to rsync through an ssh tunnel from a windows pc to an ubuntu pc?
[02:01] <ozzloy> can anyone help me troubleshoot my sound problems?  i have sound coming through the headphones, but not speakers on my laptop
[02:01] <apathy> thanks for helping
[02:01] <Tanokai> ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP]
[02:01] <subhan> the problem is client cannot find iamge file linux
[02:01] <Pelo> !sound | ozzloy
[02:01] <crazyrk> dsnyders : compact every 4.5GB
[02:01] <ubotu> ozzloy: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:01] <Torbul> Blair: k cool, thx
[02:01] <Suren> can anyone show me how to rsync through an ssh tunnel from a windows pc to an ubuntu pc?
[02:01] <Blair> i can
[02:01] <ozzloy> Pelo: thx, i'll check that out
[02:02] <crazyrk> Sorry people, I need to leave, bye
[02:02] <Blair> Suren:  i can
[02:02] <Suren> Blair, yes please
[02:03] <Blair> first why rsync what are you trying to do
[02:03] <mnoir> I going crazy here - it's something I should (and did) know.  In vi, in a s/ command, what is the regex to match x'0a'?
[02:03] <silent_> ugh, that reminds me I need to set up rsync as a cron job
[02:03] <Suren> backup certain directories on my windows pc to my ubuntu pc, which pretty much just is for backup
[02:04] <Suren> Blair, i'm currently using cygwin for windows
[02:04] <tailsfan> Do game controllers work on Ubuntu?
[02:04] <Blair> its really dificult o set up windows to do data that way are they on the same netwourk
[02:04] <Blair> ?
[02:04] <Pelo> what's the app to create a theme ?  I mean make a new one with custom colors in such
[02:04] <Suren> yep, same network
[02:05] <tailsfan> Like USB Game Controllers?
[02:05] <Pelo> tailsfan, depends on the model,  look it up in the forum or in this list  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport  www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:05] <Blair> use a samba share to set up a local share drive
[02:05] <soldats> Pelo, you can use the gimp or inkscape to make new icons
[02:05] <Blair> can you do that it would be easyer
[02:05] <Blair> ?
[02:05] <Pelo> soldats, not quite what I had in mind I mean making a new gtk theme
[02:06] <Suren> yes, it's already set up
[02:06] <n00bie> does anyone here have some experience with ices2 and icecast2 ?
[02:06] <soldats> Pelo, ahh my bad
[02:06] <Suren> Blair, but i need it to be through ssh
[02:06] <Pelo> n00bie, better look for a ices2 or icecast2 channel
[02:06] <Tramp> mnoir: x'0a' should be perfect as regex for x'0a'
[02:06] <n00bie> Pelo: i have, but there are none responding :-)
[02:06] <Blair> why and if so..  http://www.cs.toronto.edu/support/remote_ssh_tunneling_windows_samba.html
[02:07] <tailsfan> pelo, I don't see anything
[02:07] <Suren> ssh just for security
[02:07] <Pelo> n00bie, not all channels are as busy as this one,  try different times or day and be patinet
[02:07] <iCEifer> can anyone explain why when I move try to place a file on my desktop it say there is not enough room even though I am sure there is?
[02:07] <Suren> Blair, just for security. I can already rsync with the secrets file, but i can't get it to work with ssh
[02:07] <Pelo> tailsfan, try broadening your search, make the keywords more general , usb game , usb control, usb joystick
[02:08] <n00bie> Pelo: ok
[02:08] <Blair> oh. use putty on the windows machine to ceate the inittal conection
[02:08] <Blair> puTTy
[02:08] <Pelo> iCEifer, one or several files ?
[02:08] <mnoir> Tramp - vi's s/ comand does not use that style - it uses an escaped syntax of (ctl)v(ctl)something else
[02:08] <mnoir> i fergot the something else
[02:08] <Suren> hmm, that might be difficult
[02:08] <tailsfan> X( What the f**k
[02:08] <iCEifer> Pelo, either...it also seems that ubuntu is no longer saving any settings of mine under things like compiz, it's almost like it can't write anything anywhere?
[02:08] <tailsfan> Flash is broken, which means No YouTube for a whole
[02:08] <Tramp> mnoir: or do you mean "xnewline" with x0a? then use x$
[02:08] <Suren> Blair, the computers in question are without internet connection
[02:08] <chump> hey guys whats the command to figure out what distro i'm running?
[02:09] <Blair> not really its juust an ip putty does pretty much everything else
[02:09] <Blair> http://www.cs.toronto.edu/support/remote_ssh_tunneling_windows_samba.html
[02:09] <twavisdegwet> quick everyone go here and vote for lazyforlife2006 (http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/317941) when it asks for zuneboards username make something up.. thank you everyone.. (and don't do !offtopic i know it is)
[02:09] <Blair> thats a good tutorial fo this
[02:09] <oldude67> so anyone using webmin?
[02:09] <Pelo> iCEifer, try emptying your trashcan also use the system monitor to check the partition usage (4th tab)
[02:09] <Suren> right, but i can't get it to those computers without internet?
[02:10] <Pelo> !ops | twavisdegwet
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[02:10] <Blair> don't need internet there on the same network and have local ip's
[02:10] <mnoir> Tramp - no - I am trying to replace double newlines with a '<br>' - the $ syntax doesn't do it either
[02:10] <dsnyders> oldude67, I use it
[02:10] <Suren> Blair: it really needs to use rsync, because that is the current setup: all i need to do is setup ssh tunnelling. And I can't get putty to the computers without internet
[02:10] <heatmzzr> im running ubuntu, trying to install another distro that i burned but wont boot from cd? do i need to do something as root so it will bootup
[02:11] <ozzloy> i have sound in my headphones, but not in my speakers.  how do i fix this?  i already checked out !sound, but found it unhelpful
[02:11] <mattgyver83> Hi room, has anyone setup bluetooth via usb adapter with ubuntu (7.04) ?
[02:11] <bebo> hello, is there any way of adding the power manager icon in the toolbar of gnome without adding the notification area?
[02:11] <LjL> ozzloy: think you mixer has separate controls for headphones and speakers out... also, are the speakers amplified? if not, perhaps your soundcard doesn't have an amplified output.
[02:11] <oldude67> dsnyders, is it worth installing ?
[02:11] <Pelo> heatmzzr, if your new distro also makes it's own bootmenu you'll be fine it should add ubuntu and any other OS to it,  if not , you might have to make an entry for the new distro in your current menu.lst file to boot it
[02:11] <Tramp> mnoir: ah, now I get it. What about "1,$s/^$/<br>/"
[02:12] <chump> hey guys how can i figure out if i'm running fiesty or gutsy?
[02:12] <Sarkie> Hi there, I have a 15 gig unallocated space on a 40gb hdd with the rest going on NTFS, the Ubuntu Setup cannot seem to find it, and manual is a bit hard for me... Can anyone help
[02:12] <iCEifer> Pelo, looks like the trash can thing helped, thanks :)
[02:12] <orionr> Hey, what program do you guys use to get pod casts ?
[02:12] <Blair> Suren:  try this http://troy.jdmz.net/rsync/index.html
[02:12] <Javid> !install
[02:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[02:12] <Blair> is this close
[02:12] <ozzloy> LjL: i looked in alsamixer, nothing worked there
[02:12] <iCEifer> Pelo, it seems that I only have 1.7gb for /home but I have a 15 gig or so partition, how can I expand the space for /home?
[02:12] <heatmzzr> Pelo, it wont install, it wont spin up? are you saying i need to add something?
[02:13] <LjL> ozzloy: try looking at the output of "amixer" (pastebin if you want)
[02:13] <Pelo> Sarkie, from the live cd desktop,  select system > admin > gnome partiton manager,  clear the space you ahvwe alocated for ubuntu , just delete any existing partiton
[02:13] <dsnyders> oldude67, I find it helpful for most things.  Of course, it's only as good as its modules.
[02:13] <ozzloy> LjL: the speakers are laptop speakers.  not powered
[02:13] <Suren> Blair, yes that's what i need to do
[02:13] <Blair> good
[02:13] <Pelo> Sarkie,  delete any existing partiton in that space, leave the ntfs one
[02:13] <oldude67> ok thanks
[02:13] <Suren> Blair, but i can't get it to work?
[02:13] <Blair> use it live it love
[02:13] <Sarkie> Pelo: It is empty, that the thing
[02:13] <Blair> whats the prob?
[02:13] <LjL> ozzloy: have you tried pumping up the volume very, very high and seeing if you can hear anything at all (even very faint) from the speakers? that would show that your soundcard's output isn't amplified
[02:13] <dsnyders> oldude67, For example, it's great for setting up apache, but openldap has some problems
[02:14] <Pelo> iCEifer, you'll need to boot the live cd if you want to resize your /home partiton
[02:14] <Sarkie> But ubutun setup, asks me "do i want to make my NTFS drive, and alter it, or use the full drives
[02:14] <oldude67> ah i see
[02:14] <foug> Is there a command to find out my cpu's architechture?
[02:14] <iCEifer> Pelo, okay, thanks again
[02:14] <LjL> foug: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:15] <dsnyders> oldude67, I would recommend that you give it a spin.  Especially if you're not entirely comfortable on the command line.
[02:15] <Blair> Suren: whats the prob
[02:15] <Pelo> Sarkie, make a spartiton for swap that is about 2x your Ram and make the rest into an ext3 partiton,  that will make it easier for your to use the manual partitoning mode when you get to it in the installer, just skip to the bit whre you specify where what goes where,   select the swap one for /swap and the otehr one for / and proceed
[02:15] <mnoir> Tramp: ah - that will do part of the job, but stripping out the hard returns on most of the lines requires eliminating the x'0a' so I gotta match that as well
[02:15] <Suren> Blair: i get the error "connection unexpectedly closed. Error in rsync protocol data stream
[02:15] <foug> LjL: hmmm, well you see, I am trying to download gentoo but I am not sure what to get. I don't know if my computer is x86 or not
[02:15] <oldude67> dsnyders, i suck on the command line
[02:16] <Sarkie> kk Pelo I'll write that down, and ill try booting back into ubuntu 5 mins
[02:16] <bebo> hello, is there any way of adding the power manager icon in the toolbar of gnome without adding the notification area?
[02:16] <LjL> foug, even if it is amd64, x86 will work, and will probably give you fewer headaches.
[02:16] <Suren> Blair: but when i remove the '-e ssh' switch, it works perfectly
[02:16] <Hammer89> When I boot up Ubuntu the graphical "progress bar" doesn't show up... the screen is just black till it loads... any ideas?
[02:16] <foug> LjL: kk thank you, i tried using the ppc but it isn't working. What is PPC?
[02:16] <subhan> please help me ,i got this problem "could not find image:linux"  while doing network installing
[02:17] <Blair> windos side or linux side?
[02:17] <Blair> linux right
[02:17] <subhan> linux
[02:17] <LjL> foug: a processor used in Macintosh computers until a year or so ago
[02:17] <ozzloy> LjL: http://pastebin.com/d1806721d my amixer output
[02:17] <Suren> Blair: windows
[02:17] <oldude67> dsnyders, the mrs's has windows on it and the printer which is a lexmarx will it help print of it?
[02:17] <foug> LjL: ahh i see, thank you
[02:17] <spiritraveller> Anyone know of a program that will burn *Video* DVDs, besides K3b?
[02:17] <Suren> i'm rsyncing from windows to ubuntu
[02:17] <foug> LjL: and i686? intel?
[02:17] <pawan> any good torrent client
[02:17] <LjL> foug: intel x86 (32 bit, not 64)
[02:17] <LjL> !good > pawan    (pawan, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:18] <LjL> !torrent > pawan    (pawan, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:18] <e_rev> could anyone recommend a wireless usb card? I'm on 7.10
[02:18] <charles__> Anyone know why when I install the ati driver on Ubuntu gutsy with a Radeon X1300 it thinks the video card is an X1400 and I cannot any longer use the 1400x1050 resolution?
[02:18] <LjL> ozzloy: uhm, i don't think it's that, but try setting "Mix" to on...
[02:18] <Edwardxp> can someone help me install my drivers for my sound???
[02:19] <dsnyders> oldude67, not entirely sure, as my printer is on a linux box, but I think so.
[02:19] <mnoir> tramp - actually your last answer is good enuf - tnx
[02:19] <Blair> is this in mid transfer Suren
[02:19] <Tramp> mnoir: ok then.
[02:19] <Pelo> !sound | Edwardxp start with this first
[02:19] <ubotu> Edwardxp start with this first: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:19] <Suren> Blair: no, the transfer doesn't even begin
[02:19] <bebo> hello, is there any way of adding the power manager icon in the toolbar of gnome without adding the notification area?
[02:19] <Suren> Blair: the ssh tunnel can't be authenticated
[02:19] <oldude67> dsnyders thats about the only thing i really need it for, lol
[02:19] <Edwardxp> ikm
[02:19] <Edwardxp> ok
[02:20] <Pelo> bebo, what do you mean by power manager  ?
[02:20] <orionr> What do you guys use to download podcasts?
[02:20] <Blair> did the ssh tunnel promp you with a machine id code
[02:20] <ozzloy> LjL: how?
[02:20] <Suren> um nope
[02:20] <noonan> anyone ever hear of a mac style copy /paste key config in ubuntu?
[02:20] <Blair> do you have ssh install on linux
[02:20] <ozzloy> LjL: highlighting it and hitting up does nothing, m does nothing too
[02:21] <Pelo> bebo,  look in the the available pannel applets in right click , add to panel,  if none seems available to do what you want,   go into synaptic an do a search for panel  others might be available for install
[02:21] <Suren> i'm using "rsync.exe -avz -e ssh suren@10.1.1.3::surenbackup "cygdrive/c"
[02:21] <dsnyders> oldude67, you may just need a good samba howto instead.
[02:21] <Suren> Blair
[02:21] <Suren> i'm using "rsync.exe -avz -e ssh suren@10.1.1.3::surenbackup "cygdrive/c"
[02:21] <bebo> Pelo the power manager icon in the bar, it comes along with the notification area that also displays the icons of the programs i start, but i just want to see the power manager icon
[02:21] <Suren> and yes, ssh is installed on linux
[02:21] <LjL> ozzloy: should be « amixer set Mix on » or « amixer set Mix unmute »
[02:21] <noonan> anyone know if that is possible ?
[02:21] <Blair> yea but ssh needs to be installed on the linux machine
[02:21] <orionr> Anyone know anything about getting podcasts on linux?
[02:21] <charles__> Anyone know why when I install the ati driver on Ubuntu gutsy with a Radeon X1300 it thinks the video card is an X1400 and I cannot any longer use the 1400x1050 resolution?
[02:21] <LjL> noonan: i just don't know what you're talking about
[02:22] <Suren> Blair: I am able to ssh in without a password
[02:22] <Pelo> noonan, do you mean like ctrl+v , ctrl+c and such ?
[02:22] <Suren> so ssh must be installed
[02:22] <RB2> Quick question, a friend of mine has two laptops. On 7.04, everything was smooth. However, on 7.10, it installed the i386 kernel and none of the apps will install. (saying that the software was not designed for the i386 arch)
[02:22] <fog_proxy> Hi all, my ubuntu is 6.10, how can I update my libraries to higher verion? my 'libavformat-dev' is too old for building a package.
[02:22] <noonan> Pelo: yeah alt instead of ctrl
[02:22] <LjL> orionr: why don't you try typing « apt-cache search podcast » ?
[02:22] <LjL> fog_proxy: upgrade to a newer version of Ubuntu.
[02:22] <fog_proxy> LjL: reinstall?
[02:22] <Pelo> noonan, look in menu > sytem > prefs > keybaord shortcuts ,make the ones you want
[02:22] <genoma> holasssssss
[02:22] <Pici> !upgrade | fog_proxy
[02:22] <ubotu> fog_proxy: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:22] <LjL> !upgrade > fog_proxy    (fog_proxy, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:22] <noonan> LjL: alt instead of control on macs
[02:22] <genoma> q tal
[02:23] <genoma> soy de venezuela
[02:23] <Pici> !es | genoma
[02:23] <ubotu> genoma: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:23] <Blair> login wih your username and password
[02:23] <noonan> it's what I'm used to and plus I like it better - it
[02:23] <Blair> rathe
[02:23] <noonan> it's more intuitive to me
[02:23] <genoma> ok
[02:23] <fog_proxy> LjL: OK, thanks
[02:23] <Suren> Blair login to what?
[02:23] <Pelo> !enter | noonan
[02:23] <ubotu> noonan: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:23] <genoma> hello
[02:23] <Blair> to ssh
[02:23] <dobblego> can I recover what was in /tmp after a reboot?
[02:23] <Skapare> does anyone here have a copy of the kernel .config file used to compile the kernel in Ubuntu 6.06?
[02:23] <Edwardxp> i want to add in a driver' from my cd ... :(
[02:23] <LjL> noonan: i thought Macs didn't even have an Alt keyboard... but, no, i don't think it can be done in a general way. in KDE (i use that), i could probably set it up like that, but it would only work for KDE applications
[02:23] <LjL> dobblego: no
[02:24] <Suren> Blair: it doesn't ask for password
[02:24] <dobblego> didn't think so; cheers
[02:24] <Pelo> Edwardxp,  is it a windows driver or a driver for linux ?
[02:24] <dsnyders> Hi all! Any software recommendations for backing up a 40G drive to DVD?
[02:24] <Blair> and his is using rsync from the windos?
[02:24] <hateliedeceive> s.a.
[02:24] <hateliedeceive> naber
[02:24] <noonan> ubotu: OK, sorry
[02:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok, sorry - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:24] <Blair> this*
[02:24] <Skapare> dsnyders: dual-layer blu-ray?
[02:24] <Edwardxp> Pelo:  no, its' a linux drier for the sound
[02:24] <Suren> Blair, ssh doesn't ask for a passwd
[02:24] <ConstyXIV> are there any firefox 3 beta packages for ubuntu?
[02:24] <Pelo> Edwardxp, what kind of file is it ?
[02:24]  * hateliedeceive np: 2 Elazýð Kýna Gecesi - Mardin kapý þen olur-Lorke lorke
[02:24] <Suren> Blair, rsync doesn't ask for a passwd and fails
[02:24] <ozzloy> LjL: both of those "amixer: Invalid command!"
[02:25] <LjL> !info firefox-3.0 | ConstyXIV
[02:25] <ubotu> constyxiv: firefox-3.0: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla (Development Version). In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0~alpha8+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1130 kB, installed size 3832 kB
[02:25] <joeamined> consty yes in official repositories
[02:25] <mattgyver83> !bluetooth
[02:25] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[02:25] <LjL> sigh
[02:25] <dsnyders> Skapare, nope.  Just a standard DVD+R
[02:25] <Edwardxp> cmpci - cmpcicmpci
[02:25] <ConstyXIV> that's alpha
[02:25] <noonan> LjL: yeah, macs have the same set up only you use alt instead of control button pretty interchangeably so you can use thumbs
[02:25] <Pelo> Edwardxp, what's the ending for it ? tar.gz ? bin ?
[02:25] <Blair> you need an acount on your linux machine that has no password so you can login to do the transfet
[02:26] <Skapare> dsnyders: you'll need some serious compression ... and it may not fit ... so I guess you're going to have to split it among multiple DVDs
[02:26] <Edwardxp> it has acmpci.c - and a make file and what not.. it wants to know about the location of the /usr/linux location
[02:26] <Edwardxp> yes
[02:26] <Edwardxp> .tar.gz
[02:26] <RB2> Are there any known problems with Ubuntu and the Athlon-M processor?
[02:26] <Suren> aah i see
[02:26] <Suren> thanks blair
[02:26] <Suren> that's fixed it
[02:26] <Suren> (Y)
[02:26] <LjL> noonan: you could swap completely the functions of Ctrl and Alt, but that's probably not what you want...
[02:26] <Pelo> Edwardxp, isnT' there a readme and or a install file in it ?
[02:26] <Blair> cool
[02:26] <noonan> ubotu: mind if I ask why no enter?
[02:26] <dsnyders> Skapare, Yes, of course it will have to split.  That's why I'm looking for software.
[02:26] <Suren> bye and thanks for all your help blair
[02:26] <Skapare> RB2: dunno about Athlon-M but it hangs on my Opteron
[02:26] <noonan> LjL: yah that sounds like it
[02:26] <Starnestommy> noonan: ubotu is a bot
[02:26] <LjL> noonan: don't you notice just how fast this channel flows?
[02:27] <Edwardxp> it wants me to go in the /usr/src/linux directory
[02:27] <Skapare> dsnyders: amanda
[02:27] <ObeyRoy> Where in the ubuntu forums should I make a post about getting wow to work with wine?
[02:27] <Blair> don't forget to delete it its a huge security fla
[02:27] <Tetracomm> Hi.
[02:27] <noonan> oh, right I get it
[02:27] <Pelo> noonan, ubotu is a bot and ithis is a busy channel it makes it scroll up needlessly
[02:27] <Blair> *flaw
[02:27] <Pici> noonan: Ubotu is a bot, its not going to reply to you.
[02:27] <Pelo> Edwardxp, open a terminal,  type  cd usr ,  then cd src
[02:27] <LjL> !wow > ObeyRoy    (ObeyRoy, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:27] <IdleOne> ubotu: tell noonan about enter
[02:27] <RB2> Skapare, it hangs. But, rebooting and trying again does a successful install. Then all the apps state that they were not designed to work on the i386 architecture.
[02:27] <LjL> ObeyRoy: ask in #ubuntuforums, i think we'd mostly not know
[02:27] <Skapare> dsnyders: amanda is originally for tape, but it does splitting ... it might work on CD/DVD
[02:28] <Pelo> Edwardxp, and please use my nick when talking to me so I get highlighted
[02:28] <noonan> heh, thanks folks, bear with me here, i mean well
[02:28] <zobf> raaaa
[02:28] <Skapare> RB2: it's coming up in 32 bit mode?
[02:28] <Edwardxp> bin  games  include  lib  local  sbin  share  src  X11R6   << thats' all there is in the /usr dir
[02:28] <Edwardxp> Pelo:  okay
[02:28] <ozzloy> LjL: thanks for the help, btw
[02:28] <LjL> Edwardxp, that's not too surprising if you don't have the linux sources installed
[02:28] <Pelo> Edwardxp,  you are already in /usr now cd to src which is where you need to go
[02:29] <RB2> Skapare, yes, but only with 7.10. 7.04 is flawless.
[02:29] <fog_proxy> LjL: I have read the upgrade guide, but I have a question: does upgrade daemon download file from the standard server? Can I change to my apt-get server so that imporve the speed?
[02:29] <Tetracomm> I can't play any audio files in any program in Ubuntu 7.10 all of a sudden.
[02:29] <noonan> LjL: i think that completely swapping would do it
[02:29] <Tetracomm> Could someone please help me?
[02:29] <Pelo> LjL, can you explain to Edwardxp how to recompile his kernel with is sound driver ? cause I don't know how
[02:29] <LjL> noonan: then install xkeycaps
[02:29] <Pelo> Tetracomm, we need a quesiton
[02:29] <zobf> Hmm.
[02:29] <LjL> Pelo, the sound driver being what?
[02:29] <IdleOne> fog_proxy: it should use the server you have in sources.list
[02:29] <dsnyders> Skapare, Thanks for the pointer.  I'm checking amanda out. :-)
[02:29] <Skapare> RB2: I'm still doing 6.06 ... what's funny is that one recognizes all 4 of my CPUs ... but self-compiled kernel does not
[02:29] <Edwardxp> Pelo:  okay im in :)
[02:29] <Pelo> LjL, driver for his sound card
[02:30] <Tetracomm> I can't play any audio files in any program in Ubuntu 7.10 all of a sudden. Could someone please help me?
[02:30] <fog_proxy> IdleOne: but my server in sources list is for 'dapper'
[02:30] <Pelo> Edwardxp, can you take it from there ?
[02:30] <LjL> Pelo: yes but i mean specifically what has he downloaded
[02:30] <fog_proxy> IdleOne: I want upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04
[02:30] <RB2> Skapare, that's weird.
[02:30] <IdleOne> fog_proxy: upgrade manager will modify it to be for fiesty
[02:30] <fog_proxy> IdleOne: should I change 'dapper' to 'feisty'?
[02:30] <Pelo> LjL, ask him, but I think he is ok now , he just needed to navigate to the correct folder apparently
[02:30] <Skapare> RB2: unfortunately, later on in the boot it hangs ... I'm still trying to figure that out, but I can't mount the squashfs filesystem to see stuff
[02:30] <fog_proxy> IdleOne: OK, thanks
[02:30] <Edwardxp> Pelo:  i think so
[02:30] <IdleOne> fog_proxy: np
[02:30] <Pelo> Tetracomm, can'T play or can't hear sound ?
[02:31] <ozzloy> LjL: i'm stuck on amixer, can't seem to turn on "Mix"
[02:31]  * Pelo should go to bed 
[02:31] <Skapare> RB2: so I think I need to go talk to kernel people
[02:31] <qwaz> what is a decent iso burning tool for the command line?
[02:31] <LjL> Pelo, Edwardxp: maybe, but keep in mind that recompiling the whole kernel is usually not necessary for just compiling a *module*
[02:31]  * IdleOne sends Pelo to bed. here is your milk and dont forget your blanky~ good night
[02:31] <LjL> !modules > Edwardxp    (Edwardxp, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:31] <Tetracomm> Pelo: That is correct.
[02:31] <Skapare> dsnyders: good luck ... I'm off to other channels
[02:31] <RB2> Skapare, is there a kernel dev channel on FreeNode?
[02:31] <dsnyders> Skapare, Thanks
[02:32] <Pelo> Tetracomm, that is not a proper response to an either or question ,  which it is ?
[02:32] <Skapare> RB2: there is some kernel talk I think
[02:32] <Starnestommy> ##linux ?
[02:32] <nickrud> qwaz: you can try cdw
[02:32] <wers> I just installed gutsy using the live cd. Whenever I attempt to boot, x wont start
[02:32] <Tetracomm> Pelo, sorry.
[02:32] <wers> it's a clean install. any idea why?
[02:32] <Tetracomm> :(
[02:32] <Carbonflux> I am running 7.10 amd64 and I keep getting this kinit: No resume image. I have tried a few of the things I found in the forums but have not had any luck getting rid of it, the machine boots fine, has anyone experienced this? is there a fix ?
[02:32] <wers> I'm on a live cd right now. how can I repair it?
[02:32] <qwaz> thanks nickrud
[02:32] <Tetracomm> Pelo: I can't play sound. The media players crash.
[02:33] <nickrud> wers: what kind of video card do you have?   lspci | grep -i vga will tell yuo
[02:33] <IdleOne> !x | wers
[02:33] <ubotu> wers: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:33] <LjL> ozzloy: uhm i'm not sure, try « amixer set Mix toggle », i can't remember the right syntax
[02:33] <wers> nickrud: I never had this problem before
[02:33] <Pelo> wers, boot the recovery mode and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ,  select the correct driver or vesa if yours does not exist, for everything else go wit the default,  then restart the comp
[02:33] <wers> okay.
[02:33] <Pelo> Tetracomm, what apps have you tried ?
[02:33] <nickrud> wers: this is a new install that you haven't done, so you start at the beginning
[02:33] <ozzloy> LjL: yeah, i'm looking at amixer -h and it's cryptic to me
[02:34] <nickrud> *done before
[02:34] <wers> the weird thing is that, I have installed ubuntu for more than 20 times already
[02:34] <Tetracomm> Amarok, Rhythmbox, and Frostwire.
[02:34] <ozzloy> LjL: oh that worked to turn it on
[02:34] <nickrud> wers, 7.10?
[02:34] <wers> I have been doing this for a year now and it's the first time i encountered this
[02:34] <mattholimeau> quick easy question: how do i modify what's in my menu bar?
[02:34] <wers> gutsy
[02:34] <Pelo> Tetracomm, what type of files are you trying to play ?
[02:34] <ozzloy> still no sound
[02:34] <Tetracomm> FLAC.
[02:34] <nickrud> wers: no, the first time you've installed gutsy on this machine?
[02:34] <mattholimeau> i don't feel like rtfm, heh
[02:35] <Pelo> mattholimeau, right click add to pannel
[02:35] <Tetracomm> Pelo: It also crashed when I tried to open a wav.
[02:35] <ozzloy> LjL: still no sound, alsamixer doesn't let me increase the volume on "Mix"
[02:35] <Pici> mattholimeau: right click menu, edit.
[02:35] <Tetracomm> Pelo: and play an MP3 in Frostwire.
[02:35] <mattholimeau> i mean what's in the like applications/places/system menu
[02:35] <RB2> On an Athlon M, what should the architecture be?
[02:35] <LjL> ozzloy: i don't know what else. i assume you're connecting the speakers to a *different* socket than the headphones? ("Mix" has no volume, it's just a switch)
[02:35] <Pelo> Tetracomm, did you add the proper codecs ?
[02:35] <mattholimeau> oh
[02:35] <wers> nickrud: I have installed ubuntu on this machine for more than 20 times already
[02:35] <mattholimeau> that is what i'm looking for... thanks!
[02:35] <Tetracomm> Yes, it used to work.
[02:35] <wers> I reformat often
[02:35] <nickrud> wers, you still haven't said if it was gutsy.
[02:36] <Pelo> Tetracomm, what have you done since the last time it worked ?
[02:36] <wers> nickrud: gutsy
[02:36] <ozzloy> LjL: no, not external speakers, just the laptop built-in speakers
[02:36] <wers> I guess i'll just sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:36] <nickrud> wers: then start at the beginning. Check your video card, then check the xorg.conf
[02:36] <ozzloy> LjL: up until about 20 minutes ago i could just unplug the headphones and the laptop speakers would start
[02:36] <wers> ok
[02:36] <Chris|> anyone knows how ubuntu auto mounts removeable media?
[02:36] <wers> brb. i'll boot again
[02:37] <ozzloy> LjL: i think it has to do with me suspending
[02:37] <Pelo> Chris|, udev rules for events
[02:37] <Carbonflux> does anyone have any information on the No resume image message from kinit ? I have tied several things and nothing as gotten rid of it so far.
[02:37] <LjL> ozzloy: ah... then i suspect it's hardware failure, i.e. the little thingie that detects whether headphones are plugged in or not has got stuck.
[02:37] <Chris|> ok ty
[02:37] <ozzloy> LjL: i think maybe i suspended w/ headphones in, resumed w/ them unplugged.  oh i hope it's not a hardware problem
[02:38] <LjL> ozzloy: well then reboot, if it keeps doesn't that, it's not it...
[02:38]  * nickrud thinks Pelo likes cryptically accurate comments
[02:38] <LjL> but it seems unlikely to me
[02:38] <ozzloy> LjL: aw, i wanted to avoid rebooting and actually fix the problem
[02:38] <mattgyver83> does anyone here know how to setup bluetooth via usb in ubuntu?
[02:38] <LjL> ozzloy, reboot
[02:38] <ozzloy> cuz if rebooting fixes the symptom now, i still have no guarantee it won't keep happening
[02:38] <ozzloy> fine fine, brb
[02:39] <Pelo> mattgyver83, try checking in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:39] <LjL> ozzloy: you can fix the problem later if you find out that rebooting does help
[02:39] <schnoowork> anyone got eclipse europa installed on ubuntu ?
[02:39] <LjL> ozzloy: but rebooting will help you diagnose what the problem is
[02:39] <nickrud> schnoowork: me
[02:39] <chump> hey guys how can i upgrade from dapper to gusty?
[02:39] <Pici> chump: Dapper->Edgy->Feisty->Gutsy
[02:40] <IdleOne> chump: you dont
[02:40] <nickrud> chump: you'd have to upgrade thru edgy and feisty to get to gutsy, a reinstall would be faster, see the following for a trick that will help
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> chump: not directly...
[02:40] <Chris|> this might be a bit tricky, i'm running ubuntu base system in a VM, and i got another partition mounted but my external hdd wont mount, which it should
[02:40] <nickrud> !clone | chump
[02:40] <ubotu> chump: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[02:40] <Pici> chump: I suggest either reinstalling or waiting for 8.04
[02:40] <schnoowork> nickrud, was there a guide you followed seeing only callisto is in the packages
[02:40] <Chris|> mmm 8.04
[02:40] <pawan> hi
[02:40] <mattholimeau> anyone know how i add or remove the menu items, or where i modify what's on "places"?
[02:40] <chump> nah this is  a fresh install no reason to clone
[02:40] <Pelo> Chris|, does your vm have the usb drive setup in it ?
[02:40] <Chris|> yes
[02:40] <heatmzzr> help: downloaded a ubuntu iso, when I restart the machine, it doesnt load the cd? what am i doing wrong?
[02:41] <Chris|> i have it setup all correctly
[02:41] <nickrud> schnoowork: I downloaded the c development version since I wanted the smallest download, then added the web & php & svn stuff using the update manager
[02:41] <IdleOne> heatmzzr: make sure bios are set to boot from cd
[02:41] <Pelo> Chris|, I would suggest you try asking about this in the vm's chanel,  this is mostlikely not a problem with ubuntu
[02:41] <heatmzzr> it is idleone
[02:41] <robdig> mattholimeau: system->preferences->main menu
[02:41] <Tetracomm> Pelo: I played a FLAC in Xfmedia, and Xfmedia stopped responding when I tried to close it. I
[02:41] <Chris|> well you see, i just built a system off ubuntu, i wasnt sure if i didnt have something installed or not
[02:41] <IdleOne> heatmzzr: you burned cd as bootable and not as a data cd?
[02:41] <Tetracomm> Pelo: XMMS plaus MP3s fine.
[02:41] <nickrud> chump: then for sure do a reinstall if you have the bandwidth to get the iso for gutsy
[02:41] <Tetracomm> No
[02:42] <Tetracomm> Sorry.
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> heatmzzr: did you test the md5 before you burned the cd?
[02:42] <Tetracomm> Pelo: XMMS plays WAVs fine.
[02:42] <mattholimeau> robdig: that's where i am. it doesn't let me edit the places menu, nor add or delete menu's themselves, just submenus and menu items
[02:42] <heatmzzr> no jack
[02:42] <Chris|> but.. how come it mounted a sda1 and not sdb1?
[02:42] <Pelo> Tetracomm, try reinstalling the gstreamer0.10 packages
[02:42] <Tetracomm> Pelo: XMMS is playing the MP3 that Frostwire won't.
[02:43] <mattholimeau> robdig: well - i found how to create new menus... really just looking for how to modify the "places" menu
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> heatmzzr: If you have the system set to boot from cd and it does not get to any screen...  I would test the download.. if you are a windows user you and use the nero tool (freeware) or one of the other freeware ones
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !md5
[02:43] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[02:43] <Chipmaster> Chris|, manually mounting with mount doesn't work?
[02:44] <Pelo> Tetracomm, frostwire has some issues starting files since the last couple of version, I wouldn'T worry tomuch about that one
[02:44] <nickrud> mattholimeau: the places menu is controlled by nautilus, you would add/remove places there
[02:44] <Tetracomm> Pelo: sudo apt-get install gstreamer?
[02:44] <mattholimeau> well - no, that wasn't how to create a menu - that was how to create a submenu i found
[02:44] <Chris|> hrm sorry Pelo to be a bother, but i suppose it just took a long while to mount, i should of waited a min, same thing happens in a xp vm
[02:44] <Pelo> Chipmaster,  this is a versual machine
[02:44] <Tetracomm> Pelo: Totem won't start either.
[02:44] <adavid> exit
[02:44] <adavid> quit
[02:44] <Chipmaster> ah
[02:44] <Tetracomm> and now Amarok won't start.
[02:44] <dimeotane> anyone have a suggestion where I can find out about the newest latest greatest ubuntu packages / .deb files
[02:44] <Pici> adavid: /quit
[02:44] <Pelo> Tetracomm, menu <system < admiN > synatpic package manager,  search gstreamer0.10 , install or reisntall everything
[02:44] <dimeotane> packages.ubuntu.com just lists everything
[02:44] <Pelo> Tetracomm, can you start totem on it's own ?
[02:44] <soshite> anyone know about step down transformers (no not the transformers from the movie) and why they would be automatically switching off after they build up heat (resistance) odly it only takes about 10 minutes? any ideas?
[02:45] <heatmzzr> Jack using ubuntu, downloaded 8.04 and cant get it to spin up cd burned the iso to disk. im forgetting something stupid im sure.
[02:45] <Pici> !hardy | heatmzzr
[02:45] <ubotu> heatmzzr: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[02:45] <Carbonflux> does anyone have any information on the No resume image message from kinit when booting ?
[02:45] <Chris|> Chipmaster out of curiousity, what is the command to manually mount a drive?
[02:45] <Tetracomm> Pelo: No.
[02:45] <nickrud> soshite: off topic, but they probably have devices that shut them down when they get hot
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> soshite: You are drawing too much from them
[02:45] <mattholimeau> sweet - got the places control under control
[02:45] <ozzloy> LjL: ok, so same situation after reboot
[02:45] <Pelo> Tetracomm, you migth want to consider a clean install
[02:45] <soshite> nickrud: yeah
[02:45] <Chipmaster> Chris| mount (-t filesystem type) /dev/sdxN /mount/point
[02:46] <Tetracomm> Pelo: How do I do that?
[02:46] <ozzloy> LjL: T_T any ideas on troubleshoting hardware?
[02:46] <LjL> ozzloy, the thing is stuck. i couldn't swear on it, but i could bet on it
[02:46] <Chris|> ah
[02:46] <nickrud> soshite: so either Jack_Sparrow is right, or the devices are getting old and out of calibration
[02:46] <Chris|> ty
[02:46] <Pelo> Tetracomm, that means  reinstall ubuntu from scratch
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> heatmzzr: Start with verifying the iso file.. then the cd itself   also burn very slow
[02:46] <RB2> Which architecture should be used for an Athlon M processor?
[02:46] <Pelo> Tetracomm, just backup your /home folder so you can recover your data and settings
[02:46] <Tetracomm> Pelo: Select everything that says gstreamer in Synaptic?
[02:46] <ozzloy> LjL: i jiggled the headphone as i pulled it out.  et voila!
[02:46] <soshite> Jack_Sparrow: thing is it says it takes down 240 volts down to 100 volts step down, it worked before but lately its been giving the crap, is it possible its just loose soldering or is it going to be more than that
[02:46] <Pelo> RB2,   i386
[02:46] <heatmzzr> ok jack thanks
[02:46] <IdleOne> RB2: 386
[02:46] <ozzloy> LjL: thanks
[02:46] <Chipmaster> Chris| there are a bunch of other options as well if that doesn't work all under 'man mount'
[02:46] <LjL> ozzloy: that might do it, it'll probably happen again though
[02:46] <Tetracomm> Pelo, No I don't want to go through an Ubuntu reinstallation.
[02:46] <Pelo> Tetracomm, gstreamer0.10
[02:46] <mattholimeau> anyone know how to add a folder to the "applications places system" menu?
[02:47] <Chris|> ok
[02:47] <ozzloy> LjL: yeah, at least i know what the problem is though
[02:47] <mattholimeau> or how to make it not show any of those?
[02:47] <ozzloy> LjL: thanks!
[02:47] <RB2> Pelo / IdleOne, So most applications will not install then? (i.e., Amarok, etc.)
[02:47] <nickrud> mattholimeau: in the file manager, drag a folder over to places
[02:47] <dimeotane> mattholimeau: use bookmarks in nautilus
[02:47] <Chris|> well its all good, it took a while for virtualbox to mount my external i suppose
[02:47] <Tetracomm> Pelo: gstreamer tools? I don't see anything that says gstreamer alone.
[02:47] <IdleOne> RB2: why wouldnt they?
[02:47] <Hammer89> When I plug in my headphones they're detected and the sound goes through them... but it also continues to go through my main speakers... I ran alsamixer in the terminal, but the "headphones" option has to 0's... and no slider to adjust the volume... anyone have any idea how to fix this?
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> soshite: This is not the channel for that offtopic.  But a loose connection can do it.. or you have overheated the thermal breaker too many times and it is shot and cutting out early
[02:47] <Chris|> in xp or other
[02:48] <Hammer89> *two
[02:48] <dimeotane> isn't there a website out there where the latest ubuntu packages are getting listed?
[02:48] <soshite> god damn and if i stop it from cutting out i risk surging
[02:48] <crazyrk> Hi, I'm having sobre problems with GNOME that keeps complaining about problems with setuid/setgid programs, can someone help me ?
[02:48] <LjL> dimeotane: what do you mean "latest"?
[02:48] <Pelo> Tetracomm, I mean all the package that start with gstreamer0.10 ,  that should get most file format covered ,
[02:48] <soshite> ok ok i get it not on topic, but the ubuntu folk are just so helpful i cant help it
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[02:48] <LjL> dimeotane: ubuntu packages don't change unless there are security fixes or fixes to extremely serious bugs
[02:48] <nickrud> soshite: lol, flattery will get you smiles
[02:49] <Pelo> RB2, you asked for the architecture to use with the athlon what does that have to do with amarok and such ?
[02:49] <dimeotane> LjL... if an author just wrote a new IRC program for ubuntu in a .deb file... freeware just released..
[02:49] <RB2> IdleOne, I'm working with a family member who has two notebooks. On 7.04, everything was fine. On 7.10, when attempting to install apps, he gets an error about an unsupported architecture (i386).
[02:49] <IdleOne> mattholimeau: right click > edit menus> new menu
[02:49] <soshite> nickrud: or a new transformer ;D?
[02:49] <LjL> dimeotane: you won't get it, unless it gets backported and you have backports enabled. or you wait until a new release of Ubuntu comes out.
[02:49] <LjL> !backports > dimeotane    (dimeotane, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:49] <crazyrk> Hi, I'm having sobre problems with GNOME that keeps complaining about problems with setuid/setgid programs, can someone help me ?
[02:49] <dimeotane> or packages that are new in v 6.10 or 7.04 compared to last version
[02:49] <Pelo> crazyrk, lookup the exact error msg in the forum  www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:49] <mattholimeau> IdleOne: that created a new submenu withing the applications or system folder
[02:49] <passbe> does anyone here know of alternatives to horde IMP and squirelmail ? (needs good HTML support)
[02:49] <pjwalsh> I'm trying to download the 'alternate cd' image for ubuntu 7.1 i386, but the file appears to be identical to the Live CD version. ?
[02:49] <crazyrk> Pelo: Ok
[02:50] <mattholimeau> i want to make a new menu that's next to applications on the menu bar
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> soshite: You can cool the transformer with extra fans or whatever to test...   Are you in the US? if so why are you not just pulling off one leg.
[02:50] <wers> guys, my touch pad doesn't work anymore after I sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:50] <Pelo> pjwalsh, how can you tell ?
[02:50] <wers> any idea why?
[02:50] <dimeotane> !backports
[02:50] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[02:50]  * LjL points soshite and Jack_Sparrow to -ot
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed
[02:50] <Edwardxp> damn this command doesn't work for extracting .tar.gz files; tar xvzf "filename"
[02:50] <nickrud> pjwalsh: releases.ubuntu/7.10 , makes it easy to choose
[02:50] <Pelo> !toucpad | wers
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about toucpad - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <Edwardxp> am i doing ti right?
[02:50] <Pelo> !touchpad | wers
[02:50] <ubotu> wers: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[02:50] <LjL> Edwardxp: yes
[02:51] <Pelo> Edwardxp, just right click on it and extract here
[02:51] <IdleOne> mattholimeau: hmm not sure howto do that
[02:51] <Edwardxp> Pelo:  im trying to extract it in the linux src dir
[02:51] <pjwalsh> First I downloaded the Live CD version, and after having problems, downloaded the alternate. When I booted from the resulting CD, I got the Live behavior. Went backed and ran cksum against both downloads, and they are identical.
[02:51] <Edwardxp> with sudo
[02:51] <soshite> Jack_Sparrow: nah just got home from japan, so japan is same as US 100-110v i believe however australia is a riddiculus 240V
[02:51] <nickrud> Edwardxp: a good general version is tar xvf filename, the z is not necessary. Makes it easy to unpack various version
[02:51] <LjL> Edwardxp: are you *sure* you need to do that? to compile modules, you should normally only need the *headers*, not the kernel source
[02:51] <mattholimeau> IdleOne: thanks anyway. neither do i, heh
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> soshite: /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:51] <Pici> soshite: Can you please move this conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic, since it isnt Ubuntu related.
[02:51] <Pelo> Edwardxp, gksu nautilus  that will give you a root file manager , if you want to do it the gui way
[02:51] <theCarpenter> is there any way to auto-regenerate fstab
[02:52] <soshite> k
[02:52] <IdleOne> mattholimeau: lemme check something out
[02:52] <LjL> !headers > Edwardxp    (Edwardxp, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:52] <Edwardxp> must do terminal :)
[02:52] <nickrud> Edwardxp: excellent practice
[02:52] <crazyrk> Pelo: Thanks, everything is working now :)
[02:52] <mattholimeau> does anyone know a chatroom i could ask questions specifically about nautilus in?
[02:52] <wers> what mouse port should I use for my touch pad /dev/input/mice, /dev/psaux/, /dev/ttyS0, /dev/tts0, or /dev/gpmdata?
[02:52] <pjwalsh> pelo: not sure if you saw my response. The two files are identical, according to cksum.
[02:52]  * Pelo isn't 1337 enougth for this crowd
[02:53] <mattholimeau> this is probably the best place to start... so...
[02:53] <Pelo> pjwalsh, does the file name differ ?
[02:53] <theCarpenter> is there any way to auto-regenerate fstab?
[02:53] <pjwalsh> no
[02:53] <IdleOne> mattholimeau: right click on the panel ( emtpy space ) add to panel> scroll down some and add custom menu
[02:53] <Pelo> pjwalsh, you got the wrong file
[02:53] <pjwalsh> pelo: no
[02:53] <IdleOne> mattholimeau: sorry Menu Bar
[02:53] <Pelo> pjwalsh, the iso for the alt cd will say so in the name
[02:54] <Pelo> theCarpenter, not that I know,  depending on how you modified it , there should be a backup in the same folder
[02:54] <IdleOne> mattholimeau: ok maybe not
[02:54] <nickrud> mattholimeau: you would have to recode the menu bar application ....
[02:55] <pjwalsh> Pelo: I'm just grabbing the download from http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download, and I'm checking the 'Check here if you need the alternate CD box.' ...
[02:55] <Pelo> pjwalsh, which version of the cd are you looking for alt cd for gutsy ? i386 ?
[02:55] <RB2> IdleOne, I'm assuming you have no idea? :)
[02:55] <mattholimeau> IdleOne: the custom menu bar adds the one i have on there already... yeah, looks like i'd have to recode the menu bar app
[02:56] <pjwalsh> pelo: gutsy/i386, yes
[02:56] <IdleOne> RB2: sorry no I dont. didnt mean to ignore you
[02:56] <nickrud> pjwalsh: go to releases.ubuntu.com/7.10 , compare the file listings at the bottom.
[02:56] <Pelo> pjwalsh, hold on
[02:56] <RB2> IdleOne, np.
[02:56] <squarebracket> what version of xorg does ubuntu use?
[02:56] <IdleOne> mattholimeau: yeah I saw that after i told you
[02:56] <IdleOne> !info xorg
[02:56] <ubotu> xorg: X.Org X Window System. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.2-5ubuntu13 (gutsy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[02:56] <RB2> Pelo, Do you know what would cause that?
[02:56] <nickrud> squarebracket: 1.3.0 according to X -version
[02:56] <mattholimeau> using the desktop transparency of the desktop cube, i want my icon files to not go invisible. i was told somewhere i would need to apply a patch or mod to nautilus and recompile... does anyone know a good direction to start going to do that?
[02:56] <Pelo> RB2, the cause of what ?
[02:57] <DrMitch> i'm getting that "aumix: SOUND_MIXER_READ_DEVMASK" error whenever i try running aumix. every post i find regarding this error doesn't make much sense to me. anyone know how to fix it?
[02:57] <LjL> !compiz > mattholimeau    (mattholimeau, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:57] <Edwardxp> how do you copy the contents of a folder to a new location? cp -R cmpci /newplace ?  --- but i don't want the folder to go along with it.. just everything in it
[02:57] <Pelo> pjwalsh, where are you located ?
[02:58] <pjwalsh> Des Moines, Iowa
[02:58] <Pelo> Edwardxp, sudo cp -f /source /dest
[02:58] <Berto> Hi - Does anyone have an ubuntu repository for PIDGIN (32-bit) ?
[02:58] <Pelo> Edwardxp, might be -r
[02:58] <pjwalsh> pelo: if that's what you meant...?
[02:58] <Berto> i want pidgin 2.3.1
[02:58] <LjL> best -a to preserve permissions, Pelo, Edwardxp
[02:58] <Pelo> pjwalsh, north america would have  been ok to
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Berto: getdeb.net
[02:58] <Berto> Jack_Sparrow, thanks!
[02:58] <pjwalsh> pelo: :-)
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[02:58] <nickrud> Edwardxp: cp /sourcedir/* /destdir
[02:58] <RB2> Pelo, sry.. I'm working with a family member who has two notebooks. On 7.04, everything was fine. On 7.10, when attempting to install apps, he gets an error about an unsupported architecture (i386).
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Berto: Remember to remove the old version first
[02:59] <LjL> Edwardxp: to just copy the contents and not the directory name, use cp -a /dir1/* dir2/
[02:59] <Ryoma> Does anyone know where I can get 8.04 beta?
[02:59] <LjL> !hardy > Ryoma    (Ryoma, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:59] <mstreetlinux> hi
[02:59] <nickrud> Ryoma: and it's definitely an alpha
[03:00] <Pelo> RB2, I had this issue with my aunts computer, but her's was a very old,  presasrio,  duron,  700 mhz with 64 megs of ram , this mgith be related , machien is just too old,  mind you in her case it was mostly games
[03:00] <boselecta> my swap keeps disappearing. i think the UUID of the swap keeps changing for some reason...
[03:00] <Ryoma> Oh okay. I was in IRC earlier and I saw someone mention 8.04 alpha (sorry) and so i was interested
[03:00] <pjwalsh> pelo: I'm grabbing the 'alternate' file from releases.ubuntu.com/7.1 now, and it seems like the correct one (says 'alternate' in the name) but it seems to me the main download page is broken.
[03:00] <Ryoma> will the alpha version upgrade to regular?
[03:00] <Pelo> pjwalsh, try on here http://mirrors.rit.edu/ubuntu-releases/gutsy/
[03:00] <LjL> Ryoma: who knows. it might break completely at some stage.
[03:01] <RB2> Pelo, ahh, thanks. It's just strange that it was fine w/ 7.04. That's a huge regression.
[03:01] <nickrud> Ryoma: yes, but it wouldn't be advisable to expect that to be rock solid, I usually would install the final after playing with betas
[03:01] <Ryoma> oh okay.
[03:01] <Pelo> RB2, I had installed xubuntu 7.04 on my aunts comp
[03:01] <nickrud> Ryoma: and when I didn't, I did eventually anyway, something was always broken a little
[03:01] <Condoulo> ok, I just installed the new ATI 7.12 drivers. Only problem, is I can't enable 3D effects.the new drivers support AIGLX, so whats the problem?
[03:01] <psyche_> anyone know why I can't see the whole sentence
[03:02] <boselecta> isn't it kind of a bug if the swap partition randomly becomes unavailable between reboots?
[03:02] <RB2> Pelo, How would I file this bug? It's a pretty wide net to cast without knowing the exact culprit.
[03:02] <nickrud> boselecta: you would think so
[03:02] <pjwalsh> pelo: that seems to be working. While I'm here, where would be the right place to ask this question: how do I get drivers loaded for my nvidia 8800 GT board for 7.10?
[03:02] <Pelo> RB2, I have idea, this is over my head I'm sorry to say
[03:02] <Tetracomm> Pelo: I just reinstalled gstreamer, testing.
[03:02] <Berto> Jack_Sparrow, so does this getdeb.net have a repository or do they just make you download debs and use apt-get?
[03:02] <Hammer89> Where can I download an 8.04 ISO?
[03:02] <RB2> Pelo, Thanks for the info!
[03:02] <Ryoma> thanks a lot guys!
[03:03] <nickrud> !hardy> Hammer89
[03:03] <theCarpenter> what would happen if i deleted my fstab
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Berto: you have to dl the three debs.. and manually install them
[03:03] <nickrud> theCarpenter: you wouldn't be able to boot
[03:03] <Chipmaster> pjwalsh, Envy is a great graphic installer for the nvidia binary drivers
[03:03] <nickrud> theCarpenter: or complete the boot, rather
[03:03] <Hammer89> nickrud: thanks
[03:03] <Pelo> pjwalsh, once you have installed the alt-cd you will get the desktop gui with a vesa driver,  go in the admin menu to the restricted driver app,  it should let you install the driver automaticlay,  if not , come back here and we'll give you instrctions fro the binairy driver
[03:03] <Tetracomm> Pelo: Totem still won't work, help?
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !envy
[03:03] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[03:04] <Pelo> Tetracomm, reisntall totem
[03:04] <Berto> Jack_Sparrow, that's so much work and won't give me updates!!! :)
[03:04] <squarebracket> i want to make my fn+switch display button work by using randr, can anyone tell me how i might be able to set that up?
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Chipmaster: Great at breaking systems
[03:04] <Pelo> Tetracomm, from synaptic
[03:04] <WindowSmasher> !broadcom
[03:04] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[03:04] <Condoulo> ok, I just installed the new ATI 7.12 drivers. Only problem, is I can't enable 3D effects.the new drivers support AIGLX, so whats the problem?
[03:04] <pjwalsh> pelo, chipmaster: thanks for the help
[03:04] <Chipmaster> haha, alright sorry always worked for me
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Berto: It took me all of 5 minutes to install.. yes I upgraded mine here
[03:04]  * Pelo is off to bed , work tomorrow 
[03:04] <Pelo> g'night folks
[03:04] <Berto> Jack_Sparrow, i know i was kidding, but it woudl be cool if they'd let me know of updates.  I guess i can do that through sourceforge though
[03:05] <Sarkie> Hi all, just installed ubuntu, but can't do any upgrades cos i keep getting " Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> 8800 is a great card... it is worth the effort
[03:05] <Tetracomm> Pelo, Rhytmbox still won't work.
[03:05] <DerangedDingo> Sarkie: are any other package managers working?
[03:05] <sacul> Sarkie do you have synaptic running?
[03:05] <Sarkie> nope, apt-get, nothing
[03:05] <Chipmaster> Sarkie, are you running it with sudo?
[03:05] <Sarkie> can't see it
[03:06] <Sarkie> yeah
[03:06] <Sarkie> i am
[03:06] <theCarpenter> if i deleted my fstab, it couldnt boot properly, etc, could i regenerate the fstab at CLI?
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Berto: To be honest, I didnt see much dfference
[03:06] <WindowSmasher> I have a friend who is having trouble with his broadcom wireless card.  It fires up and connects to his network, but his speeds are limited.  I got no help from the wiki.  Any advice?
[03:06] <smultron_> where's the place to configure LDAP settings in Evolution?
[03:06] <nickrud> theCarpenter: yes, it can be done from the live cd
[03:06] <Berto> Jack_Sparrow, yeah well i'm having issues that require going down from 64-bit to 32-bit, so i figure i'll get 2.3.1 while at it
[03:06] <sacul> SArkie tried rebooting to remove lock?
[03:06] <theCarpenter> can it be done without the livecd?
[03:06] <Sarkie> yup, its the same
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Berto: getdeb is just the place to get what you need
[03:07] <Hammer89> nickrud: Meh... the download links are 404ing me
[03:07] <Sarkie> omg its working
[03:07] <Berto> Jack_Sparrow, yep already got it.  hopefully my problems will be solved by 32-bit.  thansk!
[03:07] <Sarkie> I told it to download in the background
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:07] <Sarkie> so it has been
[03:07] <Sarkie> meh
[03:07] <Chipmaster> :D
[03:07] <Sarkie> silly error message
[03:07] <IdleOne> Sarkie: sudo rm  /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[03:07] <nickrud> theCarpenter: do you get to the cli?
[03:07] <Tetracomm> Pelo: Audacity won't run.
[03:08] <Sarkie> IdleOne: It's ok now, its because it was running in the background downloading the updates
[03:08] <theCarpenter> nickrud: i'm exploring options right now; i haven't explored it fully
[03:08] <Tetracomm> Pelo: restarting.
[03:08] <WNxCryptic> I'm working in a CLI and I need to install berkeley DB, but I'm having trouble downloading it via ftp and aptitude doesn't recognize "berkeley" as a package
[03:08] <IdleOne> Sarkie: :)
[03:08] <PLSshowyourhelp> mplayer mplayer
[03:08] <sacul> sarkie :)
[03:08] <Sarkie> a better error message would have been better
[03:08] <PLSshowyourhelp> ubotu mplayer
[03:08] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[03:08] <sacul> idleone isn't it dangerous to remove the lock without checking for that situation first?
[03:08] <nickrud> theCarpenter: having never actually done that (I've done things as catastrophic though :) my initial take is you couldn't get to the cli
[03:08] <SeaFire0> could somebody tell me the reasons of a "Destination host unreachable" error when pinging another computer ?
[03:09] <IdleOne> sacul: is it?
[03:09] <boselecta> so OK my swap is listed in fstab and the UUID actually points to the correct partition... but for some reason the swap isn't turned on upon booting and i can't activate it via swapon -a. any ideas?
[03:09] <Sarkie> SeaFire0: They are dead
[03:09] <Carbonflux> Can anyone help me with a error message I am getting from kinit: No resume image? The machine boots fine after, I am running 7.10 amd64.
[03:09] <fellacious> hello!
[03:09] <SeaFire0> Sarkie, what do you mean
[03:09] <fdsfds> http://en.thisbitch.info/?id=50e12643d759cf38457d960f2babecbe
[03:09] <Sarkie> It cannot reach the computer you are trying to ping
[03:09] <fdsfds> http://en.thisbitch.info/?id=50e12643d759cf38457d960f2babecbe
[03:09] <fdsfds> http://en.thisbitch.info/?id=50e12643d759cf38457d960f2babecbe
[03:09] <fdsfds> http://en.thisbitch.info/?id=50e12643d759cf38457d960f2babecbe
[03:09] <fdsfds> http://en.thisbitch.info/?id=50e12643d759cf38457d960f2babecbehttp://en.thisbitch.info/?id=50e12643d759cf38457d960f2babecbe
[03:09] <fellacious> does anyone know where i can find debugging symbols for firefox-3.0?
[03:09] <SeaFire0> Sarkie, ah ok, I got you now, but I can ping it from XP without problems
[03:09] <Berto> Jack_Sparrow, how can i tell dpkg --install to allow my 32-bit deb file onto my 64-bit system?  It is saying the architecture doesn't match.  Is this possible?
[03:09] <Sarkie> well it can't ping out
[03:09] <sacul> IdleOne I believe you can screw yourself up pretty bad if two package managers start accessing things at once since they both have root
[03:10] <WNxCryptic> anyone??  I'm working in a CLI and I need to install berkeley DB, but I'm having trouble downloading it via ftp and aptitude doesn't recognize "berkeley" as a package
[03:10] <nickrud> sacul: they won't, one will have dpkg locked
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Berto: Actually others here know that.. I have no clue
[03:10] <PLSshowyourhelp> Hi , what's the mean of For codecs try !codecs? Please
[03:10] <Pici> !codecs
[03:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:10] <sacul> nickrud yes.. we're saying if you manually removed the lock
[03:10] <IdleOne> sacul: yeah I see what you are saying
[03:11] <nickrud> sacul: oh. Another catastrophic event I haven't tried
[03:11] <schnoowork> !eclipse
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eclipse - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <WNxCryptic> !berkeley
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about berkeley - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <sacul> nickrud :)
[03:11] <SeaFire0> WNxCryptic, try installing the db3 package
[03:11] <Pici> !msgthebot
[03:11] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[03:11] <PLSshowyourhelp> !codecs
[03:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:11] <fellacious> does anyone know where i can find debugging symbols for firefox-3.0?
[03:11] <PLSshowyourhelp> :-D
[03:11] <sacul> nickrud & idleone will try it on my other box some time and let you know what happens ;)
[03:12] <nickrud> sacul: please do
[03:12] <IdleOne> fellacious: firefox-3.0-dbg
[03:12] <IdleOne> sacul: hehe ok
[03:12] <bazhang> PLSshowyourhelp: codecs are used to enable the play of various media formats--such as mp3, movie files and so on
[03:12] <fellacious> E: Couldn't find package firefox-3.0-dbg
[03:12] <fellacious> nice try
[03:12] <IdleOne> fellacious: apt-cache search firefox will list it
[03:13] <nickrud> PLSshowyourhelp: the codecs are a bundle of dll's that the mplayer people gather, that allows apps to play non-free formats
[03:13] <fellacious> *shrug* it doesnt tho
[03:14] <fellacious> google doesn't even list that package
[03:14] <nickrud> fellacious: you should probably ask the mozilla people where to find some
[03:14] <fellacious> there's a firefox-3.0-dev.  not the same thing
[03:14] <nickrud> fellacious: probably need to compile it yourself with debug enabled
[03:14] <IdleOne> fellacious: #ubuntu-mozillateam
[03:15]  * nickrud is amazed at the proliferation of #ubuntu's
[03:15] <boselecta> could somebody please tell me why i've all of a sudden had to start running mkswap on my swap partition, and then update the UUID in fstab in order for swap to be available?
[03:15] <nickrud> boselecta: did you only have to do it once? If so, possibly the swap partition got corrupted somehow
[03:15] <IdleOne> nickrud: #ubuntu-mozillateam works on the firefox packages for ubuntu and a few other packages.
[03:15] <boselecta> nickrud: no it's something i've been having to do routinely
[03:16] <nickrud> IdleOne: um, I think the name is self-explanatory :)
[03:16] <IdleOne> :P
[03:16] <nickrud> boselecta: I would file a bug on bugs.ubuntu.com , that would definitely qualify in my mind
[03:17] <IdleOne> nickrud: what I meant to say is that it isnt just another #ubuntu... it is an important #ubuntu- . not to minimize the importance of other channels
[03:18] <Condoulo> ok, I just installed the new ATI 7.12 drivers. Only problem, is I can't enable 3D effects.the new drivers support AIGLX, so whats the problem? Do I need to install something else?
[03:18] <nickrud> IdleOne: oh, I wouldn't consider any unimportant, it's just that the teams have grown to the point that they need their own channels. A good thing
[03:18] <IdleOne> nickrud: yeah that is a good thing :)
[03:19] <nickrud> Condoulo: take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log , my suspicion is that you have the kernel modules for the ubuntu fglrx loaded
[03:19] <FactTech> Question: Does anybody have any experience getting an old SB16 ISA card working?
[03:19] <mikeylikesit5805> hi all i have ubuntu on a thinkpad r40 when ever i try to play a media file i can only hear sound, no video though
[03:19] <mikeylikesit5805> any ideas
[03:19] <WNxCryptic> what are the commands for db4.4-util (AKA Berkeley)? db_load doesn't work to load a database.
[03:20] <Condoulo> nickrud- ah. I thought I have blacklisted the module.
[03:20] <notv> okay guys i need your help
[03:20] <nickrud> Condoulo: the log will tell you if it is
[03:20] <notv> whats a really good c++ IDE for gnome?
[03:20] <Condoulo> nickrud- where in the log?
[03:20] <boselecta> nickrud: i think it's something to do with hibernate
[03:20] <notv> like, the end all top dog C++ IDE
[03:20] <nickrud> Condoulo: somewhere in there there will be a big notice about kernel mismatch
[03:21] <Skapare> so where can I download the Ubuntu _source_ ?
[03:21] <nickrud> boselecta: I hibernate with no problem, or have been. (tries)
[03:21] <j85wilson> $ grep -P foo
[03:21] <j85wilson> grep: The -P option is not supported
[03:21] <j85wilson> why?
[03:21] <Condoulo> nickrud- I see nothing about kernel mismatch.
[03:22] <j85wilson> gutsy
[03:22] <j85wilson> grep (GNU grep) 2.5.1
[03:22] <boselecta> i will try hibernate and see what happens
[03:22] <zetheroo> will the KDE4 effects work with the fglrx driver?
[03:22] <FactTech> Skapare Isn't the source available as a package if it's not already installed?
[03:23] <FactTech> Question: Nobody with experience debugging ISA sound cards? I think I'm mostly there -- the right modules seem to be listed in 'lsmod' output, but there's no sound.
[03:23] <PLSshowyourhelp> bazhang&nickrud: thanks
[03:23] <j85wilson> played with the mixer yet, FactTech?
[03:23] <j85wilson> sometimes the volume is at zero.
[03:23] <j85wilson> but that's my only contribution.
[03:24] <bazhang> PLSshowyourhelp: no worries
[03:24] <renam> Ola,baixei um joguinho e ele veio em pacote tar.bz2...como faco pra instalar..??
[03:24] <FactTech> j85wilson Thanks. I did try turning up the volume, but the mixer doesn't seem to be attached to the device.
[03:24] <nickrud> boselecta: no, everything fine here
[03:24] <Tanokai> How can I tell what video card is in my machine?
[03:24] <Redf1sh> Tanokai, should show up in lspci
[03:24] <FactTech> Tanokia Try 'lspci' and look for the right entry.
[03:24] <Redf1sh> from command line
[03:25] <FactTech> Tanokai 'lspci -v' should provide additional information.
[03:25] <crabgrass> Flannel: hey, you there?
[03:26] <crabgrass> Flannel: I solved my problem from last night, and it's kinda embarassing. should have been hdd(0,0) instead of (1,0)... i have no idea why it changed.
[03:26] <FactTech> j85wilson, Am I correct in thinking that if I see things like 'snd_sb_common' in the lsmod output, that means the kernel detected the card?
[03:26] <crabgrass> Flannel: but thanks for all your help, though. it got me thinking in the right direction
[03:26] <Tetracomm> Pelo: I restarted and everything is working perfectly again.
[03:26] <zetheroo> anyone?
[03:26] <TigranG> Hi. What was the command/app to test mount inputs?
[03:26] <boselecta> yeah hibernate is broken.
[03:26] <Skapare> FactTech: that would be one massively huge package to hold all that source code
[03:26] <j85wilson> FactTech: necessary but not sufficient, I think (sb_common that is).
[03:26] <j85wilson> you need some other snd_ modules as well
[03:27] <j85wilson> maybe?
[03:27] <Skapare> FactTech: or are you assuming I just want source for only the kernel?
[03:27] <FactTech> j85wilson, There are lots, for the OPL devices and MPU401 and such...
[03:27] <FactTech> Skapare Yes.
[03:27] <zetheroo> will the KDE4 effects work with the fglrx driver?
[03:27] <Skapare> FactTech: actually what I'm looking for is the .config file they use to build the kernel
[03:27] <j85wilson> if they are the modules that you think correspond to your card, then yes, that should be correct.
[03:27] <Tanokai> Why is it that when I'm typing, sometimes the focus will switch to wherever my mouse pointer is pointing?
[03:28] <j85wilson> FactTech: IIRC, with ISA you have to play around with IRQ numbers and all that?
[03:28] <FactTech> Skapare Oh. I really don't know much about kernel building.
[03:28] <LimCore> how to install to a box without CD nor floppy nor net-boot?  like, by installing to hard drive, from another/running linux
[03:28] <boselecta> nickrud: does your hibernate work?
[03:28] <wweasel> I've been told that SATA is hotswappable, though hotswapping internal drives always felt wrong to me. Nevertheless, I'm in a LiveCD: I can just connect the SATA power and data cables and Linux will detect it?
[03:28] <ce_logos> hyyhh
[03:28] <TigranG> What was the command/app to test mount inputs?
[03:28] <Skapare> FactTech: I'm trying to fix up some kernel init issues on a new machine ... I can't get Ubuntu to finish the kernel probes
[03:28] <Dragon67> hi how can i run tftp server on ubuntu
[03:28] <nickrud> boselecta: yes it did. No problems with swap either
[03:28] <Skapare> FactTech: I'm trying to rig up an alternate kernel
[03:28] <FactTech> j85wilson, Yeah... that was stage one. :) I think I'm past all that since it looks like the right modules are loaded. The issue *may* be something with the connection to higher layers like ALSA, OSS, etc, but I can't quite get it.
[03:28] <Dragon67> i have installed by apt-get install tftp
[03:28] <Redf1sh> Shakoare: it should be included in the kernel source packages in the repos. I think ubuntu has it at least.
[03:29] <FactTech> Skapare I am way too neophyte for that kind of stuff. :)
[03:29] <Skapare> Redf1sh: but how do I find that?  is there a URL?
[03:29] <j85wilson> FactTech: I think I've exhausted my knowledge of the subject.
[03:29] <FactTech> j85wilson, Got it. Thanks for trying.
[03:29] <Skapare> Redf1sh: note that Ubuntu itself is not running, yet
[03:29] <boselecta> nickrud: so my hibernate experience is that it spins the disk and then eventually powers off. it doesn't wake up on keypresses, and when i press the power button it reboots freshly.
[03:29] <j85wilson> np
[03:29] <boselecta> and the swap is gone again.
[03:29] <waner> #ubuntu-es
[03:29] <j85wilson> what do I need to do to get a grep that supports the -P flag?
[03:30] <nickrud> boselecta: yes, that sounds like a bug. Not sure what to file it under, though.
[03:30] <Redf1sh> Skapare: right, you should be able to get it via ftp. I'll see if i can find you a link.
[03:30] <Hank_> i have a question
[03:30] <j85wilson> Hank_: ask, don't ask to ask.
[03:30] <Redf1sh> Skapare: Tough you could always download a newer kernel and build that too.
[03:30] <SR71-Blackbird> hey i have a rather wierd problem... i reinstalled ( from source) alsa to fix my mic problem.. now after restarting nothing's working and /dev/snd doesn't even exist
[03:30] <Hank_> where do you get ubuntu for mac
[03:30] <mindframe> which channel for hardy support?
[03:30] <wweasel> Guys, can I just connect a SATA drive while the PC is on and it will be detected and added as sdb or whatever?
[03:31] <wweasel> !hardy
[03:31] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[03:31] <Hank_> and how do you install it?
[03:31] <Skapare> Redf1sh: I have every 2.6 kernel (even 2.6.23.13) ... but I need a configuration starting point to mimic Ubuntu as close as possible
[03:31] <Skapare> Redf1sh: I was hoping maybe the source had the .config
[03:32] <Hank_> where do you get ubuntu for mac
[03:32] <Skapare> Redf1sh: it should be in the bootable CD maybe in /boot but I can't get at it
[03:32] <Redf1sh> Skapare: I think it does? Though I could be wrong.
[03:32] <nickrud> Skapare: the config that was used is in /boot/config ...  oh
[03:32] <KojakWolf> hey...has anyone ever had the problem with Ubuntu where it won't use the Swap partition ?
[03:32] <Skapare> nickrud: can you access it from yours?
[03:32] <FactTech> Hank_ What model of Mac?
[03:32] <waner> hola
[03:33] <nickrud> Skapare: yes, I can put it up on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:33] <runnerjosh> I'm look for a distro that will run well on a 900 mhz 256mb ram laptop any suggestions
[03:33] <waner> quiero entrar a ubuntu en español
[03:33] <nickrud> Skapare: it's for the 64bit version though
[03:33] <FactTech> runnerjosh Xubuntu
[03:33] <apathy> ok I created this folder on my desktop as root and now I don't know how to delete it
[03:33] <Skapare> nickrud: I would need it as a file, not a decorated paste
[03:33] <Redf1sh> Skapare: I onlhave 64 bit configs tooy
[03:33] <Redf1sh> wow i cannot type
[03:33] <nickrud> Skapare: just copy the text box below
[03:33] <xoqa> where is the default audio directory in ubuntu? is there a command i can type to find this?
[03:33] <Pici> !es | waner
[03:33] <ubotu> waner: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[03:33] <MdL054_> hey guys I need a hand, the forums haven't helped - Getting desperate....    I can currently only boot into 2.6.17, this is the latest kernel I can boot into. Other kernels boot me into "Initramfs" prompt of busybox. I've tried "irqpoll" and "All_generic_ide" but none work
[03:33] <Skapare> nickrud: OK, I'll try that
[03:34] <Kalamansi> hello world
[03:34] <nickrud> Skapare: but if you're using 32big, mine's not going to be quite right
[03:34] <MdL054_> P4 2.6ghz Overclocked to 3.0
[03:34] <MdL054_> 1.5gb PC3200
[03:34] <MdL054_> Abit IS7-G motherboard
[03:34] <MdL054_> 2x 160gb IDE
[03:34] <MdL054_> 1x 80gb IDE
[03:34] <nickrud> *32bit
[03:34] <xoqa> i'm using alsa, but i'm not sure where it's located
[03:34] <Skapare> nickrud: you're on 64 bit?
[03:34] <nickrud> Skapare: yes
[03:34] <MdL054_> I'm currently running 7.10 but using the 2.6.17 kernel.
[03:34] <Redf1sh> MdL054_: busybox give you any errors as to why it died?
[03:34] <Skapare> nickrud: well I could try 64 bit ... I have a pair of 2.8 GHz Opterons
[03:34] <MdL054_> no, but it looks to me like an hdd issue
[03:35] <Redf1sh> MdL054_: I usually see that when I break something, but it could be unable to find you drive or missing drivers for something important.
[03:35] <MdL054_> because it keeps giving me the same messages about my hdd
[03:35] <runnerjosh> thanks facttech
[03:35] <nickrud> Skapare: its worked well for me, the only issue I've had is java in browsers, don't miss it.
[03:35] <MdL054_> anything you can suggest to start my search?
[03:35] <FactTech> runnerjosh No sweat. I rebuild machines with poorer specs than that, and they run OK.
[03:35] <Redf1sh> MdL054_: Does the kernel mention some kind of disk (probably sda1 or hda1) during boot?
[03:35] <MdL054_> i tried checking dmesg but it only shows my current boot
[03:35] <MdL054_> yes it mentions sdb
[03:35] <apathy> there is this folder on my desktop now and it says I don't have permission to delete it
[03:35] <MdL054_> actually mentions all my drives
[03:36] <MdL054_> over and over and over
[03:36] <Redf1sh> MdL054_: I think dmesg gets gzipped into older copies in /var/log, but maybe only after a boot.
[03:36] <Redf1sh> MdL054_: Ohh that is special.
[03:36] <apathy> I'm not joking, I don't know how to delete the folder it says I don't have permission
[03:36] <pyrak> how do i check privileges from ftp in the console?
[03:36] <MdL054_> yea i checked there too but unfortinately it only shows my 2.6.17 boots
[03:36] <MdL054_> same with my kern logs
[03:36] <Hank_> can some1 tell me where to get ubuntu for my imac?
[03:37] <WorkingOnWise> minor emergency. i ned to clear up disk space fast. where is the apt-get cache so I can delete it?
[03:37] <MdL054_> i have a theory
[03:37] <MdL054_> that my controller isn't supported
[03:37] <Redf1sh> MdL054_: Do you know if the modules your drive needs have changed between kernels? Also do you have a root= line in your boot line? (probably grubs config)
[03:37] <Skapare> Hank_: it's not on the web site?
[03:37] <MdL054_> i compiled my own kernel of 2.6.23.12 with support for my controller and same deal
[03:37] <nickrud> Skapare: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51524/
[03:37] <Skapare> nickrud" thanks
[03:37] <boselecta> nickrud: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/134680/comments/61
[03:37] <Redf1sh> MdL054_: Possibly, but infinitly listing the drives is something new to me.
[03:37] <MdL054_> i do have a root line and I'm not sure about my drive needs, how can i check
[03:38] <MdL054_> i really wish i could show you a log :(
[03:38] <Redf1sh> MdL054_: I wish I want a network dev. :p
[03:38] <boselecta> i'm running 2.6.22-14 though
[03:38] <nickrud> boselecta: you running the 2.6.24 kernel as well? (or is that you)
[03:38] <MdL054_> :)
[03:38] <nickrud> read my mind
[03:38] <boselecta> that's not me
[03:38] <Redf1sh> MdL054_: What kind of disk do you have?
[03:38] <MdL054_> 3 disks all IDE
[03:39] <pyrak> how can i find out how many perms i have for an ftp folder?
[03:39] <Redf1sh> MdL054_: Alright, you booting off of a single partition or raid?
[03:39] <MdL054_> single
[03:39] <MdL054_> not sure if its relivant but
[03:39] <_gtt_> !irc
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[03:39] <_gtt_> !lirc
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lirc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <_gtt_> ubotu is just about useless beyond a certain skill level.l
[03:40] <MdL054_> on my 2.6.17 I need to boot with the peram "hdb=noprobe" or else it takes 5+ min to boot, i do eventually get the full use of the drive
[03:40] <bqmassey> totem is stuck in full screen
[03:40] <MdL054_> obviously this is less than ideal but im not sure if that is relivant to the issue im getting
[03:40] <bqmassey> press the "leave fullscreen" button does nothing
[03:40] <bqmassey> what do i do?
[03:40] <Redf1sh> MdL054_: Huh, something is odd there. I'd guess you tried that with the other kernels?
[03:40] <boselecta> does 2.6.22 have a resume parameter too?
[03:40] <MdL054_> absolutely
[03:40] <MdL054_> no effect on anything 2.6.20+
[03:41] <bazhang> !info lirc
[03:41] <ubotu> lirc: Linux Infra-red Remote Control support. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu8 (gutsy), package size 353 kB, installed size 1720 kB
[03:41] <MdL054_> I cannot boot off a live cd
[03:41] <bazhang> _gtt_: see above
[03:41] <Redf1sh> MdL054_: Hrm. Crashing during initram is a really weird spot to die... What did you use to make it?
[03:41] <nickrud> boselecta: not sure, I stopped watching the kernel much in the 2.4 series, I just use what I'm given these days
[03:41] <MdL054_> to get up to 7.10 i had to install 5.10 and upgrade each step of the way
[03:41] <Redf1sh> MdL054_: You might need to pass some "magic" boot options as well.
[03:41] <apathy> ok how do you get into the desktop directory in terminal?
[03:41] <Redf1sh> noapci and the like.
[03:42] <MdL054_> this is the default ubuntu kernel, the one i made has no difference in result
[03:42] <Skapare> nickrud: thanks ... took me a while to get it saved ... that paste site names the files ending in "/" in the URL and that seems to confuse lynx
[03:42] <Mar1> hey everyone!
[03:42] <Redf1sh> MdL054_: huh, it sounds like your disks got unsupported somehow.
[03:42] <mkquist> hey all isnt gparted able to resize partitions?  and w/ntfs install resize windows too? having a bit of a problem doing it...
[03:42] <BiGKiD> hey friend
[03:42] <MdL054_> this happens in every install as well, ive tried many different installs
[03:42] <Redf1sh> MdL054_: Or controller maybe. What is the model?
[03:43] <MdL054_> exactly what it sounds like huh :(
[03:43] <Mar1> anyone know any trouble shooting tips for ffmpeg?  i'm getting an error and i've googled it and i'm not sure what to do with it?
[03:43] <MdL054_> let me get the specifics real quick ill brb
[03:43] <Redf1sh> ok
[03:43] <Skapare> nickrud: is that the way it comes from ubuntu?  alphabetized?
[03:43] <Redf1sh> MdL054_: lshw should probably give you oodles of info.
[03:43] <nickrud> Skapare: yup, just like that. A lot of it is autogenerated
[03:44] <Redf1sh> MdL054_: lshw | less and seearch (press / ) for IDE
[03:44] <Skapare> nickrud: I see ... I need the options organized by section so I can see the processor type section :-(
[03:44] <nickrud> Skapare: and I assume you're not ready for make menuconfig yet
[03:44] <Mar1> basically it has all the specifics for the output, but it's saying "ffmpeg2pass -0.log: no such file or directory"
[03:44] <skyhook> Hey, would anyone foresee any problems with setting the ubuntu home folder to be the same as the vista home folder?
[03:44] <Redf1sh> Skapare: If youve run make oldconfig, you can run make menuconfig to get it broken down for you in a gui-ish thing.
[03:44] <nickrud> skyhook: oodles and oodles of problems
[03:45] <Mar1> i'm using vive..installed ffmpeg from source to include aac and i264
[03:45] <Skapare> nickrud: the problem I run into is when I try to use my own kernel, it says the CPU numbers are 67, 68, 69, 70 ... when they should be 0, 1, 2, 3 ... but the Ubuntu kernel gets past that part OK
[03:45] <skyhook> nickrud:  what kind of problems?
[03:45] <Skapare> Redf1sh: I'm not running GUI ... I'll try the old config and see if that re-arranges it back
[03:46] <MdL054_>              description: IDE interface
[03:46] <MdL054_>              product: 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) IDE Controller
[03:46] <Redf1sh> Skapare: Its in ncurses, so text based, but has a nifty menu.
[03:46] <nickrud> Skapare: lol, you must have missed my comment about following the kernel. When the stable branch became a development branch, I decided to leave it to the developers. My last kernel compile was 2.6.3 or so
[03:46] <Hank_> can some1 plz help me
[03:46] <MdL054_> awesome command.. ill be sure to remember that
[03:46] <mikeylikesit5805> does anyone know why i would not have any video when i try and play a movie, i have sound but thats it
[03:46] <shrug> !ot
[03:46] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:46] <FactTech> Question: The output of 'lsmod' shows only *loaded* modules, right?
[03:46] <chris062689> Hello!
[03:46] <BiGKiD> hey buddies, my friend brought his laptop over with ubuntu and i think his install somehow got messed up because whenever he tries any system stuff like add/remove apps, or sys. update, he gets errors like
[03:46] <BiGKiD> "this is a major failure of your software management system. please check for broken packages with synaptic, and check the file permissions and correctness of the file /etc/apt/sources.list and reload the software information with: sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install -f
[03:47] <Redf1sh> MdL054_: Ok one minute. I'm pretty sure ICH5 shipsets should still work. I use ICH6 on craploads of stuff.
[03:47] <chris062689> So everyone ready for KDE 4.0 tomorrow?
[03:47] <skyhook> mikeylikesit5805: when opening your video file did you get any msgs saying you should install some codecs?
[03:47] <mikeylikesit5805> no
[03:47] <mikeylikesit5805> i installed all of the codecs including libdvdcss2
[03:47] <MdL054_> :) thanks so much i REALLY appreciate the help... sooooo desperate at this momment
[03:47] <Mar1> ...no one knows ffmpeg?
[03:47] <apathy> how do you get into a directory
[03:47] <chris062689> Ha.  I would love to have KDE 4 on my laptop, but sadly it's hard to install codecs for it.
[03:47] <bazhang> BiGKiD: used automatix or envy?
[03:47] <mikeylikesit5805> and all of the ones under mythbuntu
[03:47] <kajey_> will kde4 be released tomorrow?
[03:47] <FactTech> BiGKiD, sounds like corruption of the database used by the package manager.
[03:47] <macd> !ics
[03:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ics - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:47] <mikeylikesit5805> could it have anything to do with the output on the laptop
[03:47] <FactTech> BiGKiD, He should be able to update it, though.
[03:47] <skyhook> mikeylikesit5805: hmm, you know more then me sorry!
[03:48] <Mar1> mikeylikesit...open synaptic and search mplayer and gstreamer
[03:48] <mikeylikesit5805> no problem thanks for the help
[03:48] <mikeylikesit5805> ok thanks marl
[03:48] <mikeylikesit5805> let me try
[03:48] <mikeylikesit5805> brb
[03:48] <WNxCryptic> with virtual users and vsftpd, can i set the "home" directory as something like /var/www ??
[03:48] <BiGKiD> FactTech: is there a way i can check the integrity of the install he has?
[03:48] <Mar1> do you have vnc installed mikey?
[03:48] <zetheroo> anyone?
[03:48] <zetheroo> will the KDE4 effects work with the fglrx driver?
[03:49] <FactTech> BiGKiD, I'm not too sure... I've never run into the problem personally. I think the man pages for apt-get might point the way, though.
[03:49] <Hammer89> what's a good program for burning a bootable CD?
[03:49] <bazhang> zetheroo: open gl?
[03:49] <FactTech> Hammer89, on Windows?
[03:49] <kitche> zenrox: theyshould sicne they don't depend on anything but X really
[03:49] <nickrud> Hammer89: right click the iso in the file manager, select burn disk
[03:49]  * sacul whispers vLc to marl
[03:49] <Hammer89> FactTech: Linux
[03:49] <nicholas> \list
[03:50] <Hammer89> nickrud: oh... okay... that works :)
[03:50] <nickrud> Hammer89: amazing what linux puts on your desktop :)
[03:50] <WNxCryptic> with virtual users and vsftpd, can i set the "home" directory as something like /var/www ??
[03:50] <mikeylikesit5805> hi all i think it might be a new bug according to this
[03:50] <mikeylikesit5805> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=596336&highlight=gnome_screensaver_control
[03:50] <regeya> more important question about kde4:  wt heck is up with the fading-in widget buttons on every stinking desktop icon
[03:50] <mikeylikesit5805> if you have any idea let me know
[03:50] <zetheroo> bazhang: ???
[03:50] <Hammer89> nickrud: Aye... if only I could get MSoffice 07 running on it (the only reason Windows exists)!
[03:51] <Mar1> mikey, do you have vnc installed?/
[03:51] <nickrud> Hammer89: yeah, I run that in vmware, gotta have it for work
[03:51] <Mar1> err...VLC
[03:51] <Mar1> ?
[03:51] <mikeylikesit5805> yes
[03:51] <mikeylikesit5805> yea
[03:51] <mikeylikesit5805> bothy
[03:51] <Mar1> okay..and it doesn't work in vlc?
[03:51] <mikeylikesit5805> nope
[03:51] <mikeylikesit5805> no videos at all
[03:51] <tritium> !enter | mikeylikesit5805
[03:51] <ubotu> mikeylikesit5805: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:51] <mikeylikesit5805> . avi
[03:51] <bazhang> zetheroo: the open gl effects--is that what you mean?
[03:51] <haxplorer> I have a HP Compaq nc6400 notebook on which I've installed ubuntu. It is said to carry an intel onboard graphics card according to HP specification, but people who own it have reported it to have a ATI Radeon x1300 with 128 MB mem. I want to have a dual monitor like, when I dock my laptop to my docking station, my laptop screen should be the default screen while the 24'' monitor that I have connected to the docking station should be the s
[03:51] <mikeylikesit5805> sorry
[03:51] <chris062689> Does anyone know if MS2003 (Especially Access) works with WINE yet?
[03:51] <Mar1> touchy!
[03:51] <Mar1>  lol
[03:51] <goldbond> i added a user, but i forgot its name. what command can i use to list all users?
[03:51] <zetheroo> bazhang: I think so.....
[03:52] <Mar1> what did you find when you searched for gstreamer and mplayer?
[03:52] <doseryder> !dmraid
[03:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dmraid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:52] <mikeylikesit5805> i dont know why i try all the formats, including .avi in many differny players
[03:52] <haxplorer> my graphics card actually supports dual monitor very well, since it works on doze
[03:52] <bazhang> zetheroo: not sure of your question then
[03:52] <goldbond> surprisingly i can;t find a terminal command to list all users on google
[03:52] <zetheroo> bazhang: a friend of mine said that the effects would not work with fglrx drivers
[03:52] <Redf1sh> MdL054_ try setting hdx=nodma on your boot list. Where hdx is your main disk.
[03:52] <doseryder> Does anyone here have experience with dmraid?
[03:52] <Redf1sh> MdL054_: No guarantees but I've found a few reported problems with that.
[03:52] <sacul> mikeylikesit5805 sounds like you have a problem with the video card to me
[03:52] <mikeylikesit5805> i think it may be a bug, do you know im using a laptop that has a broken lcd so it is going out to an external lcd could that me the problem
[03:52] <truna_> chris062689, do you have to use access? there are better databases like mysql
[03:52] <MdL054_> K, i'll give it a shot
[03:52] <MdL054_> brb
[03:52] <Redf1sh> In any case it ought to spee dup the 5 minute boot.
[03:53] <chris062689> well
[03:53] <zetheroo> bazhang: I use the fglrx drivers for the ATI Rad Mob X1400 thats in my laptop
[03:53] <chris062689> It's for a college class :/
[03:53] <chris062689> so it's kind of HARD not to use Access =P
[03:53] <Hammer89> 'Nother question... are there any programs you can use to make a custom installation CD for Ubuntu?
[03:53] <NoelJB> chris062689, you can run Access in a virtual machine, if you have a license for MS-Windows as well.
[03:53] <nickrud> !customize
[03:53] <truna_> chris062689, off course not, you can use mysql to store your data, and do your sql too
[03:53] <zetheroo> bazhang: he said that the effects in KDE4 need xgl running.... but I thought that that's not a problem any more....
[03:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about customize - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:53] <bazhang> zetheroo: well if you really in a hurry to know this you could go to kde channel or even kubuntu channel--they might actually have an answer :}
[03:54] <FactTech> Hammer89, I know it can be done, just not how.
[03:54] <fog_proxy> IdleOne: I run synaptic to do upgrade, but find my 'update-manager' is 0.42.2, the guide said I need use 0.45.2. I have tried reload and set option(I have no 'Recommended updates' option as guide said). So, how can I do the upgrade?
[03:54] <nickrud> Hammer89: yes, my mind is blank for a sec
[03:54] <zetheroo> bazhang: ha
[03:54] <chris062689> ... It's a class on how to use Access.
[03:54] <Hammer89> lol
[03:54] <regeya> rofflecopters.  have fun with access.  it's a piece of cake, chris062689
[03:54] <chris062689> I doubt I could use MySQL for that =P
[03:54] <Rian-Davide> hey is there anyone who knows how to fix wireless issues with wusb54g v.4?
[03:54] <supersako> speaking of mysql
[03:54] <chris062689> I need some good themes for Ubuntu, what do you guys suggest?
[03:54] <truna_> chris062689, well this is not access support line :)
[03:54] <sacul> mikeylikesit5805 with direct rendering of video the os sends a chroma keyed background to the monitor and a direct data stream of the video the the video card..  the video card then overlays the video.. sometimes its not possible for your card to do this on a secondary output.. especially if its an older card.
[03:54] <chris062689> Hmm?
[03:54] <supersako> how do i restart my mysql server?
[03:54] <apathy> ok I figured it out
[03:55] <regeya> zetheroo: I'll second that; most people in #ubuntu are likely to be gnome users and at times you may even find kde-bashers (though I think many of the rabid fanboys "left" when kubuntu came about)
[03:55] <chris062689> Do you guys know any good themes?  I want to "pimp" out my Ubuntu, but can't find anything good.
[03:55] <NoelJB> supersako: /etc/init.d/mysql restart ought to be about right
[03:55] <truna_> supersako, if it has entries in /etc/init.d/  mysql restart
[03:55] <bazhang> does #mysql have a channel?
[03:55] <Starnestommy> bazhang: yes
[03:55] <supersako> im trying to set up mysql with amarok
[03:55] <Rian-Davide> Im having problems getting my wireless card working can anyone help?
[03:55] <NoelJB> bazhang: almost certainly
[03:55] <zetheroo> regeya: ok I am in the kubuntu room now
[03:55] <bazhang> thanks Starnestommy!
[03:55] <phigan> evening, gents
[03:56] <nickrud> !customlivecd | Hammer89
[03:56] <ubotu> Hammer89: Creating custom Live CDs is explained on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[03:56] <truna_> Rian-Davide, which chip does your wifi card uses?
[03:56] <phigan> is there an alternate 7.10?
[03:56] <bazhang> cheers NoelJB
[03:56] <Hammer89> nickrud: Thanks!
[03:56] <Rian-Davide> rt2570
[03:56] <phigan> cause when I check alternate on the website, it gives me the same filename as the regular iso
[03:56] <Rian-Davide> its a linksys wusb54g v4
[03:56] <supersako> thanks
[03:56] <truna_> Rian-Davide, prefix your responses to me with my nick or I will miss it
[03:56] <renegade420> I forgot to save something and the recovery window pops up and is frozen there. I can't get it to the new document window at all.
[03:56] <mikeylikesit5805> ok thanks sacul i willl try and look into that, or do you think that it is not even possible
[03:56] <apathy> heck yea, Java games are working now!!
[03:56] <renegade420> on openoffice
[03:56] <Rian-Davide> truna_ ok sry its wusb54g v4 rt2570
[03:57] <pyrak> anyone familiar with running ftp from console
[03:57] <regeya> java...games?
[03:57] <nickrud> phigan: you're not the first to say that tonight :(  try releases.ubuntu.com/7.10
[03:57] <truna_> Rian-Davide, what have you done to test it yet?
[03:57] <apathy> yea I got java working
[03:57] <apathy> lol
[03:57] <sacul> mikeylikesit5805 what model is your laptop?
[03:57] <phigan> nickrud: thanks
[03:57] <kitche> pyrak: what about running the ftp program?
[03:57] <apathy> java...games
[03:57] <Rian-Davide> truna_  Ive done alot, Ive even installed alternate modules to get it working but it still wont start up in the network manager and show wireless networks nor connect
[03:57] <scurry7> pyrak ftp client or server??
[03:58] <pyrak> ftp client
[03:58] <Rian-Davide> truna_ even when I try to manually connect it won't connect but when i switch to my other internal broadcom card it works great
[03:58] <truna_> Rian-Davide, is your AP using some kind of encryption like wep or wap? disable them for now, to test connectivity
[03:58] <pyrak> from console
[03:58] <danc3> pyrak: man ftp
[03:58] <Rian-Davide> truna_ there is nothing like that just simple open wireless connections
[03:58] <pyrak> i want to see how many permissions my user has
[03:59] <pyrak> danc3, tried, couldn't find it
[03:59] <regeya> bzr vs hg fight.  go!
[03:59] <danc3> pyrak: couldn't fine what?
[03:59]  * regeya runs away
[03:59] <riPPerMD> et my ip and then the dhcp server gives me the one i set or what. thats just one of many questions.
[03:59] <riPPerMD> [9:57pm] * Joins: mardum___
[03:59] <riPPerMD> [9:58pm] * Joins: eltech
[03:59] <riPPerMD> [9:58pm] <guest_> kadim2: What's wrong with using dhcpcd?
[03:59] <riPPerMD> [9:58pm] * Quits: cekz (No route to host)
[03:59] <pyrak> danc3, looking for how many permissions my user has
[03:59] <riPPerMD> oops
[03:59] <nickrud> regeya: wrong channel, see #rv-wars
[03:59] <FloodBot1> riPPerMD: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:59] <regeya> lol
[03:59] <Rian-Davide> truna_ Ive blacklisted the old module that ubuntu tries to use for the card which is called rt2500 and then loaded one I got offf of a support website
[03:59] <danc3> pyrak: "how many permissions"...?  doesn't make sense
[03:59] <regeya> thanks nickrud :->
[04:00] <pyrak> danc3, if i have read/write or just read, etc
[04:00] <riPPerMD> will ubuntu be able to support KDE4?
[04:00] <truna_> Rian-Davide, you put them in the same directory as where the rt500 was before?
[04:00] <danc3> pyrak: depends on what ftp server you connect to
[04:00] <mikeylikesit5805> sacul it is an thinkpad r40
[04:00] <FactTech> Hey -- I got that sound card working! You really can do anything in linux, if you're willing to read 20MB to solve your problem.
[04:00]  * regeya looks at the kde4 dir on his machine....waddayathink riPPerMD 
[04:00] <pyrak> danc3, i realize.  i'm looking on a particular server
[04:00] <genii> FactTech: Now you're getting the idea.
[04:00] <truna_> truna_, is the driver loaded yet?  check /sys/module/rt2500 ?
[04:01] <pyrak> a client was supposed to give me permissions to edit files, but i'm having trouble through nautilus
[04:01] <riPPerMD> heh answers my question
[04:01] <MdL054> Sorry... didn't work :(  no change in result
[04:01] <pyrak> so i thought i'd try one more approach before blaming them
[04:01] <riPPerMD> thanks regeya
[04:01] <mikeylikesit5805> hey sacul i just wanted to say thanks for the help and this is what i found out about the card it is an ati mobility radeon 7500
[04:01] <grep100> FactTech: now test it on youtube and see if you get sound there
[04:01] <FactTech> genii I know it's not that cool to show up asking easy questions, but a little mercy is always useful to a newbie.
[04:01] <danc3> pyrak: you don't use Nautilus to do file managing over FTP....
[04:01] <pyrak> danc3, you can.
[04:01] <FactTech> grep100 I got it via beep media player... hold, I'll check.
[04:01] <danc3> pyrak: lol, ok whatever
[04:01] <danc3> good luck
[04:01] <Redf1sh> MdL054: Damn!
[04:02] <MdL054> I've sure got quit the issue here
[04:02] <pyrak> danc3, what do you recommend?
[04:02] <Rian-Davide> truna_ here's the website with the directions I followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=516649
[04:02] <regeya> riPPerMD: I'd say with a bit of work after it stabilizes it'll be jsut fine and dandy...just as kde is on ubuntu, except with the 10,000x better nature of kd34 (ok, I might be exaggerating a bit)
[04:02] <danc3> pyrak: I recommend you use a GUI FTP client
[04:02] <regeya> s/d3/de/
[04:02] <pyrak> danc3, which one?
[04:02] <danc3> pyrak: like gFTP
[04:02] <MdL054> you said my chipset is supported right?
[04:02] <Redf1sh> MdL054: In theory yeah.
[04:02] <Rian-Davide> truna_ I dont know if they are in the same directory I'll check the sys file you told me to, but I followed the directions off of that website
[04:02] <truna_> Rian-Davide, way too much for me to read, at what point you are at testing? what command did you use so far?
[04:03] <genii> FactTech: :) My point is that almost anything is possible in ubutu, just it takes some work and research occasionally
[04:03] <DiCha_cHa-Cha> c.cbn.net.id
[04:03] <Redf1sh> MdL054: I use ich6 and ich7
[04:03] <Rian-Davide> truna_ its not anything to read at all its only a few lines of code
[04:03] <genii> *ubuntu  <hides from typo monster>
[04:03] <FactTech> genii I know -- I was just poking fun. I appreciated your help yesterday.
[04:03] <MdL054> because i was thinking of trying an ide controller card but no stores around stock em and I'd need to newegg it.. if it doesn't work then i eat a lot of shippng costs
[04:03] <MdL054> plus i move between us and germany very often so it would take me a long time to sit down with it
[04:04] <MdL054> and if my chipset is theoretically working then theres probobly a different issue
[04:04] <FactTech> genii The secret to the sound card was doing a modprobe with an 'isapnp=0' parameter.
[04:04] <Redf1sh> MdL054: Yeah that would be pretty inconvenient. You could always bug intel?
[04:04] <FactTech> grep100, It doesn't work with YouTube -- how did you know?
[04:04] <Redf1sh> MdL054: Theyve got pretty good linux support, at least network wise. :p
[04:04] <genii> FactTech: I need to add that to my little black book of answers.... ;)
[04:04] <bullgard4> truna_: What is a good graphical frontend or viewing mysql data?
[04:05] <MdL054> i actually tried it and they give the runaround
[04:05] <sacul> mikeylikesit that card should be new enough to handle it.. not really sure
[04:05] <MdL054> try the real basic stuff ya know
[04:05] <grep100> I needed to install flashplayer from adobe and then I needed aoss (alsa-oss
[04:05] <genii> bullgard4: phpmyadmin is not bad
[04:05] <doseryder> does anyone here have experience with dmraid?
[04:05] <Redf1sh> MdL054: I dunno mate. :(
[04:05] <truna_> bullgard4, i dont have a preference, i can use the openoffice settings and use mysql as the data source to populate a spreadsheet
[04:05] <Chicory> !testdisk
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about testdisk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <Chicory> !photorec
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about photorec - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <Chicory> Hmm ...
[04:05] <danc3> pyrak: did you try gftp?
[04:05] <MdL054> thanks for the help red i appreciate it
[04:06] <Rian-Davide> truna_ sorry that was the wrong page, this is the right one http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=588045
[04:06] <Chicory> I'm having some problems with recovering MP3
[04:06] <sacul> doseryder i have 2 seagate baracudas running on dmraid right now
[04:06] <FactTech> grep100, I already have flashplayer installed, I think. I'll look into also-oss. Thanks for the pointer.
[04:06] <Chicory> *MP3's using Testdisk/Photorec.
[04:06] <pyrak> danc3, yeah.  still playing with it...
[04:06] <flatline-kun> !jingle
[04:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jingle - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:06] <doseryder> sacul: Hi sacul
[04:06] <MdL054> im not sure what i should do now... i mean my 7.10 system isn't fully working with an old kernel
[04:06] <sacul> doseryder hi
[04:06] <MdL054> crummy support for my hardware
[04:06] <flatline-kun> !openfire
[04:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openfire - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:06] <Chicory> Hey, does anyone have hints on recovering MP3's?
[04:06] <GanryuMVP> amd64 installer cd keeps freezing up in final stages of install (language-pack-en mainly). i386 install works fine. any ideas on causes?
[04:06] <doseryder> sacul: I've been pulling my hairs out the past week trying to get this thang working
[04:06] <Redf1sh> MdL054: I am seeing lots of google hits for your hardware and kernel 2.6.20; might be something useful buried there. Though all ive seen so far is more dma suggestions.
[04:07] <Rian-Davide> truna_ so I have to figure out what's installed in the rt2500 directory?
[04:07] <Chicory> The last time I attempted to recover, I got an awful lot of 6.1k MP3 files.
[04:07] <truna_> truna_, is the driver loaded yet?  check /sys/module/rt2500 ?
[04:07] <MdL054> if it means anything, pre 2.6.17 I always had the "mounting root file system" hang
[04:07] <Chicory> ... Like they've been fragged.
[04:07] <Rian-Davide> truna_ but if i black listed that one will it not matter?
[04:07] <FactTech> grep100, Before I go off on a tangent and have to read another 20MB, can you point me to anything specific?
[04:07] <doseryder> sacul: do you mind joining #dmraid as it is kinda crowded in here
[04:07] <bazhang> flatline-kun: what are you looking for?
[04:07] <sacul> doseryder sure
[04:07] <truna_> Rian-Davide, something similar rtxxx in /sys/module/
[04:07] <Redf1sh> MdL054: hmm, someone hard-disky has to know about that if its been affecting kernels for so long.
[04:07] <Rian-Davide> truna_ ok what should I look for in it?
[04:08] <Rian-Davide> truna_ Im using windows right now to get on the internet
[04:08] <flatline-kun> bazhang: I was looking for some instruction on how to install either Jabber w/jingle support, or possible OpenFire.
[04:08] <Rian-Davide> truna_ i cant get on with ubuntu right now
[04:08] <Redf1sh> It mgiht be worth ti to check around other distros or some kernel forums. kernel-trap.org has lots of fixes.
[04:08] <scurry7> video driver question: (i have a geForce 7900): on a default install, gdm does not load properly.  I have to /etc/init.d/gdm stop > sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run >then etc/init.d/gdm start.  :: now after a reboot its back to the drawing board (i have to repeat the process to get gdm to load properly)... what can i check???
[04:08] <MdL054> your deff thinking hdd at this point as well though?
[04:08] <bullgard4> truna_: A spreadsheet-like GUI is not enough for me. MS-Access is much more flexible to represent data in forms. So I was forced to leave mysql for Kexi.
[04:09] <truna_> Rian-Davide, well, we cant check anything then
[04:09] <grep100> not in memory I read a ton of web pages, final result was download and install the alsa-oss package, then reboot, still didn't work, so then read a ton more web pages and it said start firefox with the command "aoss firefox" that worked after the first time I no longer needed to start from a terminal
[04:09] <Rian-Davide> truna_ Im going to reboot and check it and then report back, what should i  be looking for/
[04:09] <Redf1sh> MdL054: Yeah, if its not just freezing at the "waiting for root fs" screen you usually see when you have no drivers for root=thing.
[04:09] <FactTech> grep100, You probably just saved me about 12 hours. Thank you very much.
[04:09] <Redf1sh> MdL054: Then youve got something new. You tried mounting it manually in busybox?
[04:10] <Redf1sh> MdL054: Its got a fair amount of tools
[04:10] <truna_> bullgard4, data is data, how you present it is dependent on your client taste..it can possibly be in xml format if you wish..but you have to do some conversions
[04:10] <Redf1sh> MdL054: well sometimes it does at least.
[04:10] <DSG|theuser> Is anyone here a virus professional?
[04:10] <MdL054> actually i havent, (been scared, no experience in busybox)
[04:10] <DSG|theuser> Is anyone here a virus professional? Who works in the virus industry?
[04:10] <Redf1sh> MdL054: its just miniature sh, may even have tab completion.
[04:10] <grep100> FactTech:  just know that it will work if you beg and plead long enough
[04:10] <bullgard4> genii: I found phpmyadmin very much inferior to MS-Access in representing data on GUI forms.
[04:11] <truna_> Rian-Davide, do you have a cable you can use to connect to your router so you can get in here while checking those connectivity?
[04:11] <Redf1sh> MdL054: I use it for embedded systems instead of a normal system; its pretty slick.
[04:11] <scurry7> any one know about video drivers??? or might could help me out...
[04:11] <scurry7> video driver question: (i have a geForce 7900): on a default install, gdm does not load properly.  I have to /etc/init.d/gdm stop > sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run >then etc/init.d/gdm start.  :: now after a reboot its back to the drawing board (i have to repeat the process to get gdm to load properly)... what can i check???
[04:11] <Rian-Davide> truna_ nope I dont, so once I open that directory do you want me to tell you whats in it?
[04:11] <MdL054> i'll give it a shot
[04:12] <MdL054> after i mount it should it just go on its merry way?
[04:12] <grep100> FactTech: now the bad news I am not running ubuntu, I tested this in fedora 8, but getting help in #fedora is pointless, so I hang out here and hope to learn something
[04:12] <DSG|theuser> Does anyone here know of a virus professional or an emergency help line for an infected file for corporate use?
[04:12] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=419586 flatline-kun it would seem that jingle is not at the moment see the thread there
[04:12] <MdL054> or do i have to initiate the rest of the boot?
[04:12] <pawan> how to install ares on ubuntu
[04:12] <Redf1sh> MdL054: nope, but if you can mount it I'd be really confused. :D
[04:12] <pawan> or emule
[04:12] <Redf1sh> MdL054: Mgiht give you a better error.
[04:12] <danc3> DSG|theuser: LOL, the AV software that  you have installed
[04:12] <FactTech> grep100, Hey, it's a start. The same symptom might have the same solution.
[04:12] <Redf1sh> MdL054: if its mounted you can sorta boot with a chroot call.
[04:12] <DSG|theuser> heh they are not avaialble at this hour
[04:12] <danc3> DSG|theuser: you have a virus on a Linux box?
[04:13] <truna_> Rian-Davide, yes, and i want you to tell me what the result of iwconfig rasb0 or whatever nic name you use,
[04:13] <Redf1sh> MdL054: chroot /mnt /sbin/init
[04:13] <MdL054> ill try it and report back
[04:13] <Redf1sh> MdL054: I'll be around
[04:13] <MdL054> thanks
[04:13] <DSG|theuser> this is a seriuos issue
[04:13] <DSG|theuser> er
[04:13] <danc3> DSG|theuser: that was a serious question... you have a virus on a Linux box?
[04:13] <Rian-Davide> truna_ ok its rausb0 I get that one and wlan1 which is my internal boradcom wifi
[04:13] <bullgard4> truna_: Do you have some examples to represent data in xml format imitating the MS-access forms style?
[04:13] <bazhang> DSG|theuser: sounds like a windows virus; or is a linux one?
[04:14] <flatline-kun> bazhang: Yea, I saw that. I was hoping that someone may have gotten either jingle or OpenFire to work on 7.10
[04:14] <truna_> Redf1sh, since you mentioned embedded systems, how to you access your embedded system through jtag? rs232 cable? how? and how do you burn the flash ?
[04:14] <Hank_> are there any applefanboys here?
[04:14] <bazhang> Hank_: offtopic here
[04:14] <Redf1sh> truna: I cheat and use cfdisks and the linux routing project.
[04:14] <DSG|theuser> this is not a linux box but, there are more "professional types" usualy here, our main corporate computer was hacked by a custom coded virus, I know the user who did it, know the person and I wish to have the file scanned to see if sensitive data was leaked.
[04:14] <truna_> bullgard4, no i do not have a sample to show you, but I can make the query to the sql, and present the data in xml
[04:15] <danc3> DSG|theuser: then why ask in here? Ask in a windoze channel.
[04:15] <egroeg> leopard in vmware on ubuntu?
[04:15] <Invert314> how do i determine the location of a program?
[04:15] <DSG|theuser> could you link me, I'm very tired 3 hours sleep
[04:15] <DSG|theuser> heh
[04:15] <Invert314> the name of the program on my HD is warsow
[04:15] <bullgard4> truna_: OK, thank you for commenting.
[04:15] <truna_> bullgard4, then one has to use another app to render or display the xml to the form(at) you wish
[04:15] <bazhang> DSG|theuser: windows problems should be addressed in ##windows thanks very much
[04:15] <Rian-Davide> truna_ Im gonna brb and tell you what I get with the commands you had
[04:15] <DSG|theuser> thank you sir
[04:15] <scurry7> anyone want to comment on why when i install my video driver after reboot it is un-installed????  -  last time i ask
[04:15] <scurry7> video driver question: (i have a geForce 7900): on a default install, gdm does not load properly.  I have to /etc/init.d/gdm stop > sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run >then etc/init.d/gdm start.  :: now after a reboot its back to the drawing board (i have to repeat the process to get gdm to load properly)... what can i check???
[04:15] <DSG|theuser> didn't know that channel exsisted, sorry
[04:15] <bullgard4> truna_: But what applications are that?
[04:16] <Redf1sh> Invert314: locate warsow, which warsow, cd /; find . | grep warsow
[04:16] <DSG|theuser> seeyas
[04:16] <DSG|theuser> gl all
[04:16] <scurry7> (or maybe there is a better channel to connect to???)  ---any comments?
[04:16] <DVS01> whats a good app to use so i can get the macosx style bouncy icon things at the bottom of the screen in gnome?
[04:16] <h4x5> a
[04:17] <Flughafen> does anyone here use rockbox?
[04:17] <th0r> DVS01  wbar will give you something like that
[04:17] <Invert314> how do i determine the location of a program?
[04:17] <Invert314> the name of the program on my HD is warsow
[04:17] <truna_> bullgard4, in cocoon2 (xml base framework), there are webtools to present data in svg, or whatever display you like..
[04:17] <h4x5> I have a nVidia gForce 5200, how exactly do i load the hardware drivers?
[04:17] <nickrud> Invert314: which warsow
[04:17] <FactTech> grep100, The aoss trick worked like a charm. I have no idea what I did, but thanks for the tip.
[04:17] <NoelJB> scurry7, I just went thought that process (again), and it works fine.
[04:17] <Invert314> ty Redf1sh
[04:17] <pawan> how to install azureus
[04:17] <nickrud> Invert314: erm, that's the command to run in a terminal, not a question
[04:18] <grep100> FactTech:  your welcome
[04:18] <bullgard4> truna_: I will have a look at cocoon2. Thank you for mentioning.
[04:18] <scurry7> h4x5: i have a geforce 7900 - will the graphical not load at all???
[04:18] <NoelJB> scurry7, check /etc/X11 and see what is happening with your config.
[04:18] <Kuropon> I need someone to test my dcc send speed cap.. any volunteers with good connection? I'll be sending.. anime episode I guess
[04:18] <truna_> bullgard4, okay, get ready for the bleeding edge technologies they offer...
[04:18] <h4x5> nope, it wont
[04:18] <scurry7> NoelJB my X11 config does not change...
[04:18] <danc3> scurry7: of course it will.... load the Nvidia driver from the "restricted drivers" repository
[04:18] <NoelJB> scurry7, oh?
[04:18] <bazhang> pawan: apt-get doesnt do it?
[04:18] <h4x5> mine is a manufacturer video card
[04:19] <pawan> no
[04:19] <Kuropon> anyone?
[04:19] <lgc> How can I convert ".3gp" (cell phone clips) files to other formats?
[04:19] <NoelJB> scurry7, I see "NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run"  I just noticed ... that's old, IIRC.
[04:19] <danc3> lgc: did you google for info on that?
[04:19] <bazhang> !info azureus
[04:19] <ubotu> azureus: BitTorrent client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0.4-1ubuntu3~gutsy1 (gutsy), package size 7061 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[04:19] <NoelJB> scurry7, go to the nvidia web site and get the newest version.
[04:19] <Trebel> pawan: apt-get should do it, make sure you also have java installed and working
[04:19] <BiGKiD> facttech: it was a messed up sources.list file
[04:19] <lgc> damc3 not yet.
[04:19] <pawan> ok
[04:19] <scurry7> danc3: i tried the resticted drivers but then my screen res is all jacked (and willl not change)
[04:19] <danc3> lgc: well go do that
[04:19] <bazhang> pawan it is in the repos--do you have them enabled?
[04:19] <pawan> any other good torrent clieent
[04:19] <FactTech> BiGKiD, So you got it figured out?
[04:20] <danc3> scurry7: works for everyone else... dunno
[04:20] <BiGKiD> yeh
[04:20] <nickrud> !google
[04:20] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[04:20] <pawan> yes
[04:20] <h4x5> if i try that it gives me an error message saying "The software source for the package (nvidia-glx-new) is not enabled"
[04:20] <NoelJB> scurry7, I am using NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run, but there is a package for legacy systems, too.
[04:20] <danc3> !google
[04:20] <lgc> damc3 thanks for your helpful advice.
[04:20] <FactTech> BiGKiD, Good deal.
[04:20] <NoelJB> sorry, bad paste.
[04:20] <scurry7> NoelJB i can't get any other dirver to work (maybe i'm not going it correct but im doing it the same way i am doing the 100.14.19
[04:20] <Onyx> I want to install KDE -- sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[04:20] <danc3> lgc: you could at least spell my name right
[04:20] <NoelJB> scurry7,  NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-169.07-pkg2.run is the current for me.
[04:20] <Flughafen> rockbox wont play my music, if anyone knows why I'de appreciate some help
[04:20] <Hank_> i get a error message at the login window
[04:20] <nickrud> h4x5: system->admin->software sources, enable the first four items, and disable the cdrom.  In synaptic, hit update and try again
[04:20] <truna_> Redf1sh, oh i see, you remove the cf disk and store it to that? what about for systems thats already installed, do they normally have flash burners embedded on them?
[04:21] <genii> Onyx: yes
[04:21]  * lgc hell, this place gets so hard to breathe in sometimes!
[04:21] <Onyx> genii: Word.
[04:21] <genii> Onyx: also if you want the kde login manager, kdm
[04:21] <scurry7> NoelJB what card do you have???
[04:21] <Kuropon> anyone willing to test my dcc send speed cap? need a good connection pls.. <file> ~BSG Razor(movie)
[04:21] <jschade> hi, i installed beryl, and emerald... but i can't find anyway to apply the emerald theme i imported. anybody know what i'm doing wrong?
[04:21] <Onyx> genii: Any noticeable benefits over GDM?
[04:21] <truna_> Redf1sh, im asking, i want to play around with those cheap soho routers that has embedded linux but seems no way to change the flash
[04:21] <Redf1sh> truna_: I run everything from ram, since cfdisks only live so long with writes. So anything I need to do I can do from loggin into a box.
[04:22] <nickrud> lgc: ignore the find your info elsewhere people, but googling is customarily a good idea
[04:22] <DVS01> th0r thanks
[04:22] <Redf1sh> truna_: You should probably be able to flash the firmware somehow.
[04:22] <genii> Onyx: Not particularly as far as my opinion. Others may have different views
[04:22] <NoelJB> scurry7, nVidia 570
[04:22] <grep100> Flughafen: often you can't play music because of the format of the music, ie. .mp3 is a non free propritary format and you need to install special codecs to play it
[04:22] <Redf1sh> I know linksys ones have a few community linux firmwares.
[04:22] <Flughafen> grep, how do i get the codecs?
[04:22] <Onyx> genii: ehh, I can always get it later if I want it
[04:22] <scurry7> I guess i will try the updated driver or play around with the restricted drivers area some more  -  thanks for the input
[04:22] <truna_> Redf1sh, thats the tricky part, find out how they flash the firmware while installed onto the unit
[04:22] <genii> Onyx: Yup, exactly
[04:23] <reeeh2000> hi all, having a little trouble getting a dvd to play.  Totem is saying I need the plugin. I beleive I have the correct codecs.  Also I allready ran through what ubuntu help said to do.
[04:23] <NoelJB> scurry7, see http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_169.07.html if you are an x86 user.
[04:23] <Redf1sh> truna_: Not sure.
[04:23] <bullgard4> truna_: package.ubuntu.com: "Package Contents Search Results: You have searched for cocoon2 in gutsy, architecture i386. Can't find that file, at least not in that distribution and on that architecture."
[04:23] <grep100> Flughafen: thats the problem I got them from the livna repo but you can't do that with ubuntu, you have to find them in a ubuntu repoistory
[04:23] <Onyx> genii: Ouch... 495MB :P
[04:23] <truna_> Redf1sh, just curious too, which arch do you use? ppc?
[04:23] <nickrud> reeeh2000: did you get the libdvdcss from medibuntu?
[04:24] <reeeh2000> nickrud: let me check
[04:24] <Flughafen> grep100, im talking about rockbox, the GNU ipod firmware
[04:24] <h4x5> thank you so much, i need to restart to see if it worked
[04:24] <truna_> bullgard4, it is an apache project, java based xml framework, pls see cocoon2.apache.org
[04:24] <bullgard4> truna_: ok
[04:24] <bazhang> Flughafen: you need to install libdvdcss2 from www.medibuntu.org ; the instructions are on the site
[04:25] <genii> Onyx: Yes, hopefully you're not on dialup :)
[04:25] <grep100> Flughafen:  then ignore that, I was thinking that rockbox was a simple linux music player
[04:25] <reeeh2000> nickrub: I have libdvdcss2, is that the same thing?
[04:25] <Onyx> genii: lol, nope... :)
[04:25] <Flughafen> grep100, no i can play music fine on ubuntu
[04:25] <Flughafen> grep100, thanks though
[04:25] <truna_> bullgard4, i gave wrong url,  cocoon.apache.org
[04:25] <nickrud> reeeh2000: yes it is. try running totem from the terminal, you might get better error messages
[04:25] <bullgard4> truna_: ok
[04:25] <bazhang> Flughafen: for working with video? mp3? what codecs do you need? ubuntu-restricted-extras has the rest iirc outside of realplayer
[04:25] <reeeh2000> nickrub: ok
[04:26] <scurry7> NoelJB: i believe i have tried it before with no luck (same black screen as default drivers) but i'll try again and play with the restricted drivers some more.
[04:26] <scurry7> thanks for the input!!!!
[04:26] <nickrud> reeeh2000: although, I would suggest getting vlc and using that as your dvd player, it's much better (including menus)
[04:26] <Redf1sh> truna: A very customized debian.
[04:26] <reeeh2000> nickrub: ok
[04:26] <NoelJB> scurry7, good luck.  they've worked well for me.
[04:27] <truna_> Redf1sh, i meant, the platform as in intel, arm, ppc, or adi?
[04:27] <Redf1sh> truna: Oh, right. Just intel.
[04:27] <reeeh2000> nickrub: installing the package now
[04:27] <nickrud> truna_: adi platform? Don't recognize that one
[04:28] <truna_> nickrud, they use uclinux as the os
[04:28] <reeeh2000> nickrub: I don't use the terminal to much, what is the command to start a program within it again?
[04:28] <nickrud> reeeh2000: apps->accessories->terminal, and type the program name:   totem    or    vlc
[04:28] <reeeh2000> nickrub: o ok thanks
[04:28] <scurry7> oh NoelJB:  how can i tell that the default ubuntu drivers are not overRiding my new ones?
[04:29] <JerseyMonkey> Hi folks, when I boot my desktop using the Live CD in normal & Safe Graphics mode, I get a black screen. My video card is a 7800 GT CO. The on-board video boots fine though.
[04:29] <NoelJB> scurry7, nvidia's installer should replace anything with their own, and offers to run a config tool to setup the config file.
[04:30] <reeeh2000> nickrub: on startup in totem it says jackd: not found
[04:30] <scurry7> NoelJB: but do i need to add the default to the some black list drivers (i was reading something ont hat some where)?
[04:30] <sid> I have a DVD5 movie, it has css etc, what is an easy way to just rip this, without modifying it.
[04:30] <truna_> nickrud sorry i meant adi (stock ticker)  as in analog devices inc, blackfin processors, they support  blackfin.uclinux.org
[04:30] <nickrud> reeeh2000: that's a possible sound daemon, not used and not a problem
[04:30] <ta1> Anybody know if its possible to use DDR2 800 on a board that says it supports up to 667?  would it just use the 800 at a slower speed or is it not possible at all?
[04:30] <NoelJB> scurry7, I haven't had to.
[04:31] <nickrud> truna_: ah, thanks for that :)
[04:31] <scurry7> NoelJB: k, thanks again.
[04:31] <knightzor> hey all getting this problem with compiz, Comparing resolution (2560x1024) to maximum 3D texture size (2048): Failed. any one able to help?
[04:31] <truna_> nickrud you're welcome
[04:31] <NoelJB> scurry7, I did see a problem where using the "Screens and Graphics" corrupted the config, and I had to repair it, but the nVidia utility pretty much replaces it entirely.
[04:31] <sid> anyone?
[04:31] <grep100> ta1: it will run fine, just at lower than designed speed
[04:31] <Meshezabeel> how can I get gcompris to go full screen so that gnome panels are not in the way? It has fullscreen mode, but menubar and task bar are on top.
[04:32] <scurry7> NoelJB the nvidia-xconfig right?
[04:32] <supersako> hey guys does anyone know how to mess with mysql? i cant get to the mysql> prompt no matter what i try
[04:32] <reeeh2000> nickrud: ok, im downloading vlc right now through school network, so it will be a minute, I need to set up a proxie with my friend to get past the annoying ratchiting down on downloads
[04:32] <lgc> nickrud, indeed. But the right bit of knowledge from someone usually spares others hours of their time. People in no disposition to help should not linger around on help channels, or else keep a low profile (danc3, did I spell your name right this time?). Same with the bunch of etiquette bigots that jump at your throat if you don't abide by the strictest, senseless rules.
[04:32] <nickrud> reeeh2000: ah, you're already a network engineer :)
[04:32] <danc3> lgc: you must be new to IRC, eh?
[04:33] <nickrud> !etiquette | lgc (lol)
[04:33] <ubotu> lgc (lol): Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubotu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense...
[04:33] <reeeh2000> nickrud: learning, in college take CS, made the switch to linux last year
[04:33] <NoelJB> scurry7, after installing, you'll have 4 nvidia programs (plus the driver): nvidia-bug-report.sh, nvidia-settings, nvidia-installer, nvidia-xconfig
[04:33] <lgc> danc3, I've been around on this channel since Hoary Hedgehog.
[04:34] <nickrud> lgc: I think I got them all that time :)
[04:34] <danc3> lgc: ooooooh, such a long time   ;)
[04:34] <JerseyMonkey> Question: When my system attempts to boot in normal and safe graphics mode, it results in a blank screen. The video card is a 7800 GT.
[04:34] <NoelJB> supersako, I do, but this isn't the place, which is probably why people are ignoring you
[04:34] <supersako> ok
[04:34] <reeeh2000> nickrub: Ahh, VLC is working, the problem must have been with totem, thanks
[04:34] <nickrud> lgc: thought I remembered your nick
[04:34] <lgc> nickrud, yeah, yeah! :).
[04:34] <leprasmurf> hello all
[04:34] <leprasmurf> having an issue with my wireless networking
[04:34] <scurry7> I am going to try nvidai-installer --update to see if that will work
[04:34] <ta1> grep100: thx
[04:35] <NoelJB> JerseyMonkey, are you trying to do an install?
[04:35] <lgc> nickrud, you're from the old customers in the house, I know.
[04:35] <stephans> where does banshee keep its config files? I need to whack them I think ... I just will not play mp3 anymore.... radio is OK. Amarok  works and system sounds...
[04:35] <mnemonica> Halp! Can't change icon for WoW in AWN... Really kinda mad about it. 'Cause all it is is a spring..
[04:35] <JerseyMonkey> NoelJB: I'm trying just to get to the desktop. :(
[04:35] <reeeh2000> nickrub: thanks for the help, see you later
[04:35] <mnemonica> BB88: You still here?
[04:35] <nickrud> reeeh2000: yw, see you around
[04:35] <NoelJB> JerseyMonkey, but have you installed Ubuntu, or are you trying to use a LiveCD?
[04:35] <MdL054> Wasn't able to mount
[04:35] <scurry7> NoelJB i appreciate your help... off to try some stuff!
[04:36] <MdL054> I was able to pull an error
[04:36] <NoelJB> scurry7, good luck
[04:36] <JerseyMonkey> NoelJB, I am using the LiveCD.
[04:36] <MdL054> "ata1.01: exception EMask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 Action 0x2 Frozen
[04:36] <leprasmurf> as an example, I tried going to weather.com and it took a good minute or two to load, meanwhile my wife (on her wired connection) tried to go and it loaded within 15 seconds.
[04:36] <lgc> danc3, I believe there were just a couple of Ubuntu releases before Hoary.
[04:37] <Redf1sh> MdL054: Alright then.
[04:37] <mnemonica> Halp! Can't change icon for WoW in AWN... Really kinda mad about it. 'Cause all it is is a spring..
[04:37] <MdL054> Does that make sense?
[04:37] <NoelJB> JerseyMonkey, and using an nvidia graphics card, right?  Won't work.  I am trying to recall if I could even get VGA mode to work (I can for Hardy).  For gutsy, I just use text mode to install, and then install the nVidia drivers.
[04:37] <MdL054> that message gets spammed countless times
[04:37] <danc3> lgc: that's not the point... IRC has been around a lot longer than that
[04:37] <heatmzzr> anyone use kde and gnome?
[04:37] <heatmzzr> they both look cool, which do you folks prefer
[04:37] <Redf1sh> MdL054: Not to me yet.
[04:38] <JerseyMonkey> NoelJB, does Hardy have better support for the card? I wouldn't mind using alpha/beta.
[04:38] <Onyx> how long is this "update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic" process supposed to take?
[04:38] <lgc> danc3, and I figure you were there since the days of BBSs.
[04:38] <iN00DLE> heatmzzr, ubuntu = gnome, kubuntu = kde, the likely response in this room would therefore be gnome?
[04:38] <nickrud> people have been rude and helpful since bbs days, it's just a fact of life. Some places tend one way or another
[04:38] <NoelJB> JerseyMonkey, do NOT use Hardy if you want stable.  There are some things that are very badly broken (other things work fine).
[04:38] <danc3> lgc: you figure right
[04:38] <JerseyMonkey> NoelJB, Yes, its a nvidia 7800 GT CO, but it was able to boot with my on-board 6150 nvidia.
[04:38] <heatmzzr> yeah but i figure folks prolly use both.. but i know what you mean
[04:38] <lgc> danc3, good for you.
[04:39] <danc3> yup
[04:39] <Hammer89> yet another question... what's a good program for copying a CD to my harddrive as an ISO?
[04:39] <heatmzzr> i like that kde desktop switching allows different backgrounds
[04:39] <nickrud> !ot | lgc danc3 nickrud
[04:39] <ubotu> lgc danc3 nickrud: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:39] <yaba> php?
[04:39] <danc3> Hammer89: dd
[04:39] <bazhang> hehe
[04:39] <NoelJB> JerseyMonkey, you'll be wanting http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_169.07.html
[04:39] <nickrud> yaba:   sudo apt-get install php5
[04:39] <NoelJB> Or the 64 bit version.  You didn't mention what you're running.
[04:39] <MdL054> Redf1sh: I'm going to try this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/104581/comments/25
[04:39] <MdL054> looks hopeful
[04:40] <lgc> nickrud, thanks for the reminder. I didn't remember you were one of those 'etiquette bigots', though. ;).
[04:40] <yaba> thanks~
[04:40] <Redf1s1> Ouch, ati drivers died and took x with them
[04:41] <NoelJB> JerseyMonkey, or http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_169.07.html if running 64 bit
[04:41] <nickrud> lgc: I get off topic a lot here, so I need to remind myself. In the bbs days, I'd never have been allowed on this channel. I've grown :)
[04:41] <Skapare> ubuntu.org has a DVD they sell ... not available for download ... what's different about the DVD compared to the CD?
[04:41] <yaba> svn后需要改文件权限，怎么办？
[04:41] <Skapare> e.g. why might I want the DVD?
[04:41] <nickrud> !cn | yaba
[04:41] <ubotu> yaba: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[04:41] <Redf1s1> MdL054: Sorry I managed to break my video drivers and completely break most things. back now.
[04:41] <shawn34> i don't hear any sound after playing a track i just recorded from within ardour, I must export to hear what I recorded. can anyone help with this issue?
[04:41] <NoelJB> Skapare, Which DVD?  You can download the Ubuntu DVD.
[04:41] <Hammer89> danc3: dd?
[04:41] <Redf1s1> MdL054: what was that error again?
[04:41] <MdL054> oh np lol I fought my way through that one earlier :)
[04:41] <nickrud> !jp | yaba (just in case)
[04:41] <ubotu> yaba (just in case): 日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい
[04:41] <danc3> Hammer89: yes, dd
[04:42] <DropKickMurpheys> Hi all.
[04:42] <leprasmurf> my network graph keeps spiking.  the speed will spike to 40kB/s then down to 3kB/s then back up to 40, and it keeps doing so.  I count 20 spikes on my graph
[04:42] <Skapare> NoelJB: that's not what the web site said ... but ... my question is, what's different
[04:42] <Redf1s1> MdL054: I've got a weird ati card too; their latest drivers have been brutal.
[04:42] <WNxCryptic> I setup vsftpd for virtual users, but when I go to login, I get an FTP error: "No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it.
[04:42] <MdL054> ata1.01: exception EMask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 Action 0x2 Frozen
[04:42] <JerseyMonkey> NoelJB, heres a question. I cain't get the 7800 to display anything on desktop or LIVECD, unless I boot using onboard video which then Ubuntu doesn't seem to know the PCI-E is there.
[04:42] <bazhang> haha nickrud you got it the first time
[04:42] <MdL054> ati for me as well, also had issues with latest
[04:42] <lgc> nickrud, excuse my lack of experience on BBS, but why?
[04:42] <yaba> ok~ i`m chinese thank you~ nickrud
[04:42] <MdL054> i found somthign im going to try real quick, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/104581/comments/25
[04:42] <MdL054> ill report back
[04:42] <DropKickMurpheys> I have a question, is there any way to schedule downloads to start at certain times using synaptic package manager?
[04:43] <nickrud> bazhang: yeah, I saw the 文 after I did the just in case :)
[04:43] <bullgard4> truna: http://cocoon.apache.org/ displays only tools but no results (data representations). It seems to be made by marketing people. Not much practical stuff that I could use to make a MS-access like form.
[04:43] <Hammer89> danc3: gotcha... like "dd if=/dev/cdrom of=image.iso bs=2k"?
[04:43] <bazhang> yaba: you were asking about svn commits?
[04:43] <danc3> Hammer89: yup
[04:43] <bazhang> haha
[04:43] <Hammer89> danc3: thanks
[04:43] <NoelJB> Skapare, you can get to it from http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors
[04:43] <Nulifier> Drop Kick: you could use a cron task and ap-get
[04:43] <danc3> Hammer89: np
[04:44] <nickrud> lgc: it wasn't bbs's it was me. The worst of debian flames didn't compare to my crassness then. Luckily, the logs from eskimo north and minibin are long gone
[04:44] <DropKickMurpheys> Nulifier: thats like throwing a fish into a barrel of sharks
[04:44] <NoelJB> Skapare, scroll to the bottom, and you'll see the DVD locations
[04:44] <DropKickMurpheys> I'm a very new unexperienced ubuntu user
[04:44] <Nulifier> DropKickMurphy: But is it sprobably more effore than it is worth
[04:44] <lgc> nickrud, pardon?
[04:44] <yaba> svn up  need me  chmod -R 777 *
[04:44] <Nulifier> DropKickMurphys: Why do you need to schedule it?
[04:44] <NoelJB> JerseyMonkey, I don't know your system.  I install onto mine in text mode, get to a console, install the nVidia drivers, and start gdm.
[04:45] <Skapare> NoelJB: where on the web site is the link that goes there?  Or was just a URL you "have to know" ?
[04:45] <truna> bullgard4, you have to install cocoon2 and get a feel of it, click on the community links to find out how they use this framework..
[04:45] <cOzy> Squall_Sk8
[04:45] <DropKickMurpheys> well i have to update my apps at 3A.M. - 6A.M.
[04:45] <cOzy> cade ?
[04:45] <bazhang> yaba: what are you trying to do?
[04:45] <Squall_Sk8> uahushushusas
[04:45] <Rian-Davide> hey truna Im back
[04:45] <Rian-Davide> truna Im back
[04:45] <cOzy> nem eh teu esse canal
[04:45] <NoelJB> Skapare, from the "enhanced download page" (misnomer in my view), you go to the complete listing.
[04:45] <cOzy> ei Rian-Davide
[04:45] <cOzy> va se foder
[04:45] <Nulifier> DropKickMurphys: You would need to write a script
[04:45] <nickrud> lgc: I was rude, but no one will ever see it. Nowadays logs are everywhere. Your children will probably be able to read what you've said today
[04:45] <lgc> nickrud, are those guys' names something one should know about?
[04:45] <truna> Rian-Davide, okay welcome back..what have you found out?
[04:45] <cOzy> quem ai quer pegar na minha pica ?
[04:45] <bazhang> cOzy: this is an english channel :}
[04:45] <DropKickMurpheys> ... O.o
[04:46] <nickrud> lgc: no, I was name dropping bbs's from the early 80's
[04:46] <sid> What is good software to rip a DVD9 movie, that has css, to a Dual Layer DVD-R, and have the css removed
[04:46] <cOzy> `@@´bazhang`@@´: i nao falo english
[04:46] <cOzy> bazhang i falo portuguex
[04:46] <cOzy> e mto mal
[04:46] <cOzy> IUEHuiehIUHUIEHUIhUIEHuiahEUIIehIUEHIUheiu ®
[04:46] <DropKickMurpheys> I really have no knowledge of scripting :/
[04:46] <cOzy> ei
[04:46] <bazhang> !pt | cOzy
[04:46] <ubotu> cOzy: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[04:46]  * kirk replaces DropKickMurpheys with a script
[04:46] <lgc> nickrud, I don't even know how to recall what's gone past the upper end of the chat window!
[04:46] <nickrud> !logs | lgc
[04:46] <ubotu> lgc: Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ - See also « /msg ubotu ircstats »
[04:46] <cOzy> %%+Squall_Sk8+%%: very god ?
[04:47]  * ablyss just installed cairo-dock and is pretty happy with it
[04:47] <vgramanatha1> /irchelp/
[04:47] <nickrud> lgc: and you can turn on logging in xchat, they're in ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs
[04:47] <Rian-Davide> truna this is what it says when i type in iwconfig rausb0    RT2500USB WLAN
[04:47] <cOzy> %%+Squall_Sk8+%%: all good ?
[04:47] <MdL054> nope, didn't change a thing
[04:47] <lgc> nickrud, holly s**t! You mean every stupid thing we type gets logged forever?
[04:48] <Skapare> so is there an answer to my original question ... what's different about the DVD compared to the CD
[04:48] <stephans> anyone knwo where banshee keeps its config?
[04:48] <iN00DLE> DropKickMurpheys, check synaptic and search cron-apt
[04:48] <nickrud> lgc: yup
[04:48] <Squall_Sk8> cOzy La pergunta?
[04:48] <vgramanatha1> How can I issue an IRC command? I am using pidgin...
[04:48] <bazhang> cOzy: squall? is it any good? is that your question
[04:48] <DropKickMurpheys> k
[04:48] <iN00DLE> looks like it will fill your needs dropety_
[04:48] <Redf1s1> MdL054: It seems to be an issue with the ata_piix module. Does your (initramfs) shell have an lsmod command?
[04:48] <Rian-Davide> truna the thing is, it should say rt2500 in the iwconfig, it should rt2570
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[04:48] <NoelJB> Skapare, DVD has a much more complete and comprehensive set of packages.
[04:48] <truna> Rian-Davide, I was expecting things like associated to AP, and ip address assigned
[04:48] <MdL054> is there a way i can check without booting into it again?
[04:48] <NoelJB> otherwise, you install over the net.  <<shrug>>
[04:48] <lgc> (by the way, censors, "s**t" means "soot", not ... well, you know).
[04:48] <Skapare> NoelJB: so it could do the install offline?
[04:48] <DropKickMurpheys> k
[04:48] <cOzy> =@>Squall_Sk8<@=: you're deer ? ;x
[04:49] <ablyss> Skapare: pretty much you can fit more data on a dvd, just like hddvd and blueray fits more data than dvd
[04:49] <NoelJB> Skapare, yes
[04:49] <Rian-Davide> truna sry it shouldnt say rt2500, and when i check for the rt2500 module it doesnt exist
[04:49] <cOzy> Mp3pLayer [ samba merengue - harmonia do samba ] CeBoLiNhA 2008 
[04:49] <bazhang> cOzy: not sure what squall is cant help you there sorry
[04:49] <lgc> nickrud, let me check that...
[04:49] <Redf1s1> MdL054: Not really, but wait a bit first. You could try loading ide_generic first, I think that might catch it.
[04:49] <wobblywu> another mystery solved
[04:49] <cOzy> bazhang dont colors ?
[04:49] <Skapare> ablyss: yeah, I know that concept ... but what is the meaning of ubuntu on dvd ... is it "complete" or just "more"
[04:49] <Redf1s1> MdL054: But i dont know how to make it do that automatically.
[04:49] <nickrud> lgc you active on ubuntu-es?
[04:49] <DropKickMurpheys> iN00DLE: can i use the same package names in apt-get as they are displayed in synaptic?
[04:50] <Redf1s1> MdL054: blacklisting piix in your initram should work, but I think you just tried that. :s
[04:50] <ablyss> Skapare: not sure I understand
[04:50] <MdL054> i could just modify my /etc/initramfs-tools/modules right?
[04:50] <Skapare> NoelJB: I see they are only 4.2 GB ISOs ... so I guess they had no more to add since DVD is 4.7 GB in single layer
[04:50] <iN00DLE> yyes DropKickMurpheys
[04:50] <bazhang> cOzy: that sounds like a music question--unless you cannot get mp3 players to work--not the right channel for that
[04:50] <MdL054> oh nvm
[04:50] <MdL054> yea i just tried blacklisting it
[04:50] <cOzy> bazhang sorry
[04:50] <Redf1s1> MdL054: Yeah, but youd have to rebuild the initram for the kernel your trying to boot.
[04:50] <Skapare> ablyss: will _all_ the packages fit on the DVD ... or just _some_ (presumably the most popular) of them?
[04:51] <bazhang> no worries cOzy
[04:51] <DropKickMurpheys> k thanks inoodle
[04:51] <MdL054> i updated it by using
[04:51] <Redf1s1> MdL054: I think that command would build it for what your running
[04:51] <MdL054>  sudo update-initramfs -u
[04:51] <MdL054> actually built it for my 2.6.23.12
[04:51] <Rian-Davide> truna so what commands should i try?
[04:51] <Skapare> ablyss: I was looking on web site for a description of DVD like "it has all the packages o eliminate downloading" or "it has more packages to minimize downloading"
[04:51] <cOzy> bazhang I could explain what system ubuntu?
[04:52] <lgc> nickrud, no, I'm not active on -es, nor on -mx. Only here, and not so often anymore.
[04:52] <Rian-Davide> truna do you want to see what it said when i did the iwconfig?
[04:52] <Redf1s1> MdL054: update-initramfs -k all -u
[04:52] <truna> Rian-Davide, yes..please
[04:52] <Redf1s1> MdL054: might get it
[04:52] <cOzy> So that the system serves ubuntu?
[04:52] <MdL054> ok lemme try it
[04:52] <nickrud> lgc: wasn't you then
[04:52] <Redf1s1> MdL054: sounds good.
[04:52] <lgc> nickrud, I checked the logs are on .xchat2/scrollback.
[04:52] <Redf1s1> pass it a -v and it might tell you what its doing.
[04:52] <bazhang> cOzy: probably easier in Portuguese but it is a linux distribution, just as famelix is
[04:52] <Rian-Davide> truna ok here it is rausb0    RT2500USB WLAN
[04:52] <lgc> nickrud, what do you mean?
[04:53] <MdL054> hey now whats this
[04:53] <MdL054> i get "find: /lib/firmware/2.6.24-rc3-zen3-zen-rc4: No such file or directory
[04:53] <MdL054> "
[04:53] <nickrud> lgc: http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/free/2005/09/01/%23ubuntu-es.html
[04:53] <MdL054> and that same error for each of my kernels installed
[04:53] <truna> Rian-Davide, thats all? no other things like associated to the AP and an ip address assigned?
[04:53] <Redf1s1> MdL054: hmm, might not be an issue I think I get that when I use mkinitramfs sometimes. That directory isnt <toooo> crucial afaik.
[04:54] <ablyss> Skapare: assuming they compress it I guess so :|
[04:54] <cOzy> bazhang And where can I download the system?
[04:54] <Rian-Davide> truna it doesnt even connect tot he internet via rausb0
[04:54] <MdL054> k
[04:54] <Redf1s1> MdL054: but it listed the kernel that gives you that error too?
[04:54] <Skapare> ablyss: packages are always compressed
[04:54] <Kalamansi> hello how to install gaim?
[04:54] <MdL054> yea for each of the kernels
[04:54] <dg19075> !emerald
[04:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emerald - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:54] <Redf1s1> apt-get install pidgin
[04:54] <truna> Rian-Davide, well first it it has to associate to your AP and acquire the ip address
[04:54] <SeveredCross> Kalamansi: Gaim has been superseded by Pidgin.
[04:54] <Skapare> ablyss: I guess I have to download it just to see if it will help to download it
[04:54] <Redf1s1> Kalamansi: gaim is no more, its renamed to pidgin
[04:54] <MdL054> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[04:54] <MdL054> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-386
[04:54] <MdL054> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-16-386
[04:54] <MdL054> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-12-386
[04:54] <nickrud> Kalamansi: gaim comes by default on 7.04 and earlier, pidgin replaced it (name change only) in 7.10
[04:54] <mnemonica> Question: Where should all of AWN's files be?
[04:54] <genii> Kalamansi: gaim had to change their name to pidgin
[04:54] <Redf1s1> Kalamansi: should be pre-installed.
[04:55] <bazhang> cOzy: www.ubuntu.com
[04:55] <Redf1s1> MdL054: ok, that sounds good.
[04:55] <Redf1s1> MdL054: I guess try another boot?
[04:55] <Kalamansi> nickrud: but there is no doodle or drawing in pidgin =/
[04:55] <Rian-Davide> truna I know but it wont even do that, like I said its not working, it wont show its doing anything in the network manager nor will it even try to connect manually
[04:55] <cOzy> bazhang where'u from ?
[04:55] <bazhang> Kalamansi: you missed the server experts--about 6 hours ago
[04:55] <smultron_> where's the place to configure LDAP settings in Evolution?
[04:55] <Skapare> ablyss: Fedora, by comparison, as a set of 5 CDs ... or 1 DVD ... the 1 DVD is just the same contents as the 5 CDs
[04:55] <nickrud> Kalamansi: I wouldn't know, I don't use it. It might be a plugin now
[04:55] <MdL054> sure
[04:56] <Skapare> ablyss: if Ubuntu had 5 or 6 CDs ... I could believe the DVD has that contents
[04:56] <lgc> nickrud, the guy certainly takes the care to write correctly, just like I normally do, though I don't recall that conversation. Maybe it's too old, when I was little...;).
[04:56] <Rian-Davide> truna when i try to rmmod the rt2500 it says it doesnt exist and then when i rmmod the rt2570 it says it cant cause its in use
[04:56] <mnemonica> Question: Where should all of AWN's files be?
[04:56] <truna> Rian-Davide, you are dual booting?
[04:56] <bazhang> cOzy: sorry this is not a chat channel but a support channel
[04:56] <Skapare> ablyss: but as you know, Fedora sucks
[04:56] <cOzy> You know me say why the Africans have small dick?
[04:56] <nickrud> Kalamansi: you can search in synaptic, there are a lot of plugins
[04:56] <Kalamansi> bazhang : yeah...
[04:56] <Rian-Davide> truna yes I am dual booting, Im in windows right now
[04:56] <lgc> nickrud, but I see your point.
[04:56] <truna> Rian-Davide, and the same wifi usb works in windows?
[04:57] <Rian-Davide> truna yes it works perfectly
[04:57] <mnemonica> cOzy: What the hell are you talking about?
[04:57] <JohnnyNoBueno> Using AdvanSys SCSI, updated Kernel to 2.6.24 but still can't access my scsi devices.  Where should I look?
[04:57] <bazhang> Skapare: you find the dvd you want? linuxtracker.org has many torrents as well
[04:57] <mnemonica> Question: Where should all of AWN's files be?
[04:57] <Rian-Davide> truna this card used to work for ubuntu but now it doesnt
[04:57] <nickrud> cOzy: one warning
[04:57] <bazhang> cOzy: please stop
[04:57] <lgc> nickrud, so, if I inaugurate the #FUCK channel (hey, censors, it's the name of a computer language, don't blame me!), it'll also be automagically logged?
[04:58] <ablyss> Skapare: i tried fedora once and was not obliged at how they kept ifconfig *out* of my env path.. was headache from the beginning
[04:58] <Kalamansi> nickrud : bazhang : i have ubuntu 7.10 desktop and i want to share internet to pc1 (xp home) how to share internet? and also install a firewall? and lastly how to install traffic monitor shapping and blocking dangerous websites? thanks
[04:58] <truna> Rian-Davide, i dont know what to tell you right now...
[04:58] <cOzy> bazhang sorry
[04:58] <SeveredCross> mnemonica: /usr/local?
[04:58] <nickrud> mnemonica: if you installed it with dpkg ,   dpkg -L avant-window-navigator will tell you
[04:58] <DropKickMurpheys> inoodle
[04:58] <DropKickMurpheys> i can use the KDE right?
[04:58] <kirk> kubuntu!!
[04:58] <SeveredCross> ablyss: A lot of distros keep /sbin and /usr/sbin I think out of the user's path.
[04:58] <kirk> ftw
[04:58] <Rian-Davide> truna ok Im wondering something I removed the rt2500 module so why would my card even show up as that when i installed a how new module and driver for it?
[04:58] <Kalamansi> nickrud : bazhang i dont want to missed up my iptables again..
[04:59] <nickrud> Kalamansi: not necessarily, the ubuntu logs were originally started by fabbione , and I see they are on the actual ubuntu site now. Someone has to set it up
[04:59] <bazhang> DropKickMurpheys: yes you can
[04:59] <rainwalker> DropKickMurpheys: you can try kubuntu if you just want KDE
[04:59] <mnemonica> nickrud: Nope.
[04:59] <kirk> !gnome---
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnome--- - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <mnemonica> SeveredCross: Where from there?
[04:59] <kirk> !kde+++
[04:59] <DropKickMurpheys> no i like ubuntu
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde+++ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <DropKickMurpheys> but
[04:59] <DropKickMurpheys> i am using cron
[04:59] <DropKickMurpheys> and i can't find the app
[04:59] <SeveredCross> mnemonica: The makefile will figure all that out for you.
[04:59] <DropKickMurpheys> once i downloaded
[04:59] <DropKickMurpheys> i need it to schedule update and downloads
[04:59] <mnemonica> SeveredCross: It's already installed.
[04:59] <nickrud> Kalamansi: I am not a network dude at all, sorry
[04:59] <SeveredCross> Ah.
[04:59] <Kalamansi> nickrud : i tried to setup internet sharing and it works..but when i run firestarter, my pc2 cannot connect to internet now...
[04:59] <rainwalker> DropKickMurpheys: you can install the kubuntu-deskotp package I think, at that will let you use KDE
[04:59] <truna> Rian-Davide, kind of odd yes, but perhaps its called that rt2500 family and it just carry same name?
[04:59] <dg19075> Need info. on istalling emerald themes.. have the theme mgr active but themes are not setting
[04:59] <MdL054> no go :(
[05:00] <SeveredCross> Well, it'll probably be in /usr/local/lib, /usr/local/bin, etc.
[05:00] <nickrud> !enter | DropKickMurpheys (it scrolls the window way too fast)
[05:00] <ablyss> SeveredCross: i hear ya
[05:00] <ubotu> DropKickMurpheys (it scrolls the window way too fast): Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:00] <mnemonica> SeveredCross: I'll try that then. Thanks.. bbias
[05:00] <SeveredCross> dg19075: Use emerald-manager to install the themes from the theme repositories.
[05:00] <alexcamilo> Hello, i installed MYSQL server 5.0 and one of the install scripts i'm using cant find the file mysql_config. i did a find / -name mysql_config and came up with nothing. does anyone know where i can find this program? (when i compiled mysql from source on another box it was installed along with everything else)
[05:00] <kirk> sudo apt-get install kde-desktop i think
[05:00] <Kalamansi> nickrud : so this time i am in serious need help .. hehehe i dont want to missed up with my iptables again. its a fresh install btw
[05:00] <truna> Kalamansi, its your firewall rule that stops it,
[05:00] <nickrud> Kalamansi: then you best look away from me :)
[05:01] <Redf1s1> MdL054: Buggery. I really dont know.
[05:01] <rainwalker> kirk: it's kubuntu-desktop I think
[05:01] <Rian-Davide> truna I dont think it said that before when i had it plugged in while I booted up the computer, so when i revmoed it to reboot its named changed when i plugged it in again
[05:01] <nickrud> kubuntu-desktop
[05:01] <bazhang> kirk DropKickMurpheys kubuntu-desktop is the package you want
[05:01] <MdL054> lol
[05:01] <MdL054> this sucks
[05:01] <Redf1s1> MdL054: I see lots of google hits for that error, but most of them make the same suggestion.
[05:01]  * osxdude accidentially quit XChat
[05:01] <WooD> Is there anything better than Picasa to manage photos ?
[05:01] <kirk> ahh
[05:01] <deostroll> Trying to create dual boot. Created the bootsect.lnx file. Now what? I have a pen drive at my disposal...
[05:01] <Jinxed-> how can i get flash to work?
[05:01] <MdL054> ditto on my research
[05:01] <JerseyMonkey> Question: How do I reset the monitor settings? I set the resolution too high, and now I cain't do anything.
[05:02] <nickrud> WooD: I find fspot good enough for me, but I don't need much
[05:02] <bazhang> !flash | jinxed
[05:02] <ubotu> jinxed: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:02] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[05:02] <NoelJB> Does anyone happen to know how Gnome decides that a USB device is a drive vs a media player when attached?   Gutsy is getting it right, Hardy keeps getting it wrong.  I'm not sure what the mechanism is.
[05:02] <Redf1s1> MdL054: I think it is that module; its possible blacklisting it that way is not working or its not building the initram for some reason.
[05:02] <WooD> nickrud, thanks
[05:02] <truna> Rian-Davide, thats udev doing that, i am still learning how it names devices it recognize..so not much of help there yet
[05:02] <nickrud> NoelJB: talk about it in #ubuntu+1 , they probably would want to troubleshoot it
[05:02] <rainwalker> !flash > Jinxed-
[05:02] <Redf1s1> MdL054: Its also possible its something completely different; but I dont think so.
[05:02] <Kalamansi> truna : i see.. so whats the best thing to do? its a fresh install btw.. i want to share internet connection to pc2, apply or install firewall, and monitor pc2 and block dangerous websites..i am using ubuntu 7.10 desktop this is my server now..but pc2 have no internet at the moment...
[05:02] <mynyml> i'm cloning the screen image to my tv, and when i make mplayer full screen it looses its image - any idea?
[05:02] <Redf1s1> MdL054: you could try it manually from the busybox shell
[05:03] <FactTech> Question: Can anybody answer a brief question about using modprobe? I want to load the 'snd-sb16' module at startup with a parameter of 'isapnp=0'. The problem is that the isapnp parameter seems to be passed to all of the snd-* modules, which makes them fail to initialize. Is there a way to set things up so that if I call for snd-sb16 in /etc/modules that it will automatically fetch the parameter for the one module that needs it?
[05:03] <MdL054> how would i do that?
[05:03] <truna> Kalamansi, if you disable the firewall or flush its rules, your client can get to the internet?
[05:03] <Jinxed-> hahahahah flash is broken?
[05:03] <WooD> nickrud, seems to be good
[05:03] <Redf1s1> MdL054: lsmod to see if its loaded, modprobe -v -r *name* to remove it, modprobe -v *name* to insert it again.
[05:03] <NoelJB> nickrud, I will, but thought that the basic question might be answerable here.  They're quiet on +1.  The more serious issue with Hardy is that hotswapping is badly broken (at least on my system for all versions of hardy).
[05:03] <bazhang> Jinxed-: in dire straits at least
[05:03] <Redf1s1> MdL054: try remove ide_generic and the piix modules
[05:04] <Redf1s1> MdL054: then insert ide_Generic first
[05:04] <deostroll> Can anyone help me with dual booting. I am almost done halfway...
[05:04] <Jinxed-> how is the gnaw flash thing?
[05:04] <SeveredCross> Gnash?
[05:04] <SeveredCross> Not really good.
[05:04] <Jinxed-> hmm
[05:04] <bazhang> gnash Jinxed-? not so hot
[05:04] <MdL054> ok
[05:04] <Redf1s1> MdL054: I see some things saying that works, but its not really a good solution in the least.
[05:04] <SeveredCross> I mean, it works, but not well enough for Youtube.
[05:04] <NoelJB> Jinxed-, you have to install the dependency packages first, then use dpkg to install the downloaded package.  Works fine.  I did it on my Gutsy install last night.
[05:04] <Jinxed-> if i installed it would it be easy to uninstall
[05:04] <Kalamansi> truna : i reinstall ubuntu and try to share internet sharing and pc2 can connect. so how to setup firewall and other monitoring devices that you can assign policy to pc2?
[05:04] <nickrud> FactTech: you would set up file in /etc/modprobe.d/ with the option line, see the options file for examples
[05:04] <Jinxed-> screw this... i restarting and opening
[05:05] <Jinxed-> windows
[05:05] <Jinxed-> lol
[05:05] <FactTech> nickrud Thank you for the pointer.
[05:05] <lgc> Kalamansi, did you play with you router already? You might be able to do some things without messing with iptables.
[05:05] <JerseyMonkey> Question: How do I reset the monitor settings? I set the resolution/refresh rate too high, and now I cain't do anything. Even TTY doesn't work.
[05:05] <bazhang> bye Jinxed-
[05:05] <nickrud> NoelJB: well you are running a system that's supposed to be broken right now
[05:05] <truna> Kalamansi, first thing is learn iptables, may take a bit while though..a good tutorial is by gandalf on iptables..
[05:05] <Redf1s1> MdL054: If that does its possible to edit the initram and make it do that, but blacklisting it <should> have done it as well.
[05:05] <grep100> SeveredCross:  to make youtube work you have to have the flash player from adobe, then download alsa-oss and install it, reboot, then run firefox with the command aoss firefox
[05:05] <deostroll> Anyone knows how to dual boot ubuntu and windows xp...?
[05:06] <SeveredCross> grep100: I was talking about Gnash.
[05:06] <MdL054> k ill give it a shot
[05:06] <Kalamansi> lgc : i dont use router.. my server ubuntu 7.10 desktop is already connected to the net.. this is my network.. modem isp --- > server ubuntu desktop 7.10 ---switch --- > pc2
[05:06] <Redf1s1> MdL054: good luck!
[05:06] <nickrud> !dualboot | deostroll
[05:06] <ubotu> deostroll: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[05:06] <bazhang> deostroll: need a link?
[05:06] <lgc> Kalamansi, I mean DSL router. are you on a home connection?
[05:06] <Kalamansi> truuna : what do you mean by "by gandalf on iptables" ? gandalf is an application? ok ill download that "gandalf" in google
[05:06] <FactTech> nickrud Just to make sure I understand: I add a line that says 'options snd-sb16 isapnp=0' at the end?
[05:06] <Trebel> JerseyMonkey: you can find the settings in /etc/X11/xorg.conf make sure you edit under the correct screen
[05:07] <deostroll> bazhang: I have a pen drive. Ubuntu already detects it. How do I transfer the .lnx file to it?
[05:07] <truna> Kalamansi on google search for gandalf iptables tutorial
[05:07] <Kalamansi> lgc : adsl. my isp gave me a modem that already configured. meaning you can connect internet directly without dialing.
[05:07] <NoelJB> nickrud, I've no problem with that idea.  That's why I started testing it early and often.
[05:07] <NoelJB> nickrud, like voting in Chicago.
[05:07] <FactTech> nickrud And this will be automatically picked up if I add 'snd-sb16' to the end of /etc/modules?
[05:08] <Kalamansi> lgc : i dont have router
[05:08] <nickrud> FactTech: you should create a new file in that directory containing that line. One of the blessings of ubuntu is if you modify a conffile in /etc , ubuntu won't overwrite it. Downside is you might lose a needed update. So they have a mechanism that will load any custom files in a conf.d directory
[05:08] <Kalamansi> lgc : my isp gave me a modem
[05:08] <JohnnyNoBueno> Can't access my scsi devices!  Gutsy with kernel updated to 2.6.24
[05:08] <lgc> Kalamansi, that's what I mean: you can connect to your modem and play with the settings to allow, for example, incoming ssh requests.
[05:08] <Kalamansi> lgc : are you refering to router like "linksys" ?
[05:08] <Trebel> deostroll: you have linux and windows installed already correct?
[05:08] <bazhang> http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch14_:_Linux_Firewalls_Using_iptables Kalamansi
[05:08] <lgc> Kalamansi, yes.
[05:09] <nickrud> NoelJB: lol, I usually wait until about a month or two before release.
[05:09] <Kalamansi> lgc : ah ok.. my modem is in "routing" not bridge
[05:09] <lgc> Kalamansi, is it also a wireless modem?
[05:09] <deostroll> trebel: correct.
[05:09] <Trebel> deostroll: ok you're making it more difficult than you need to, simply rewrite your MBR to point to both linux and windows on boot
[05:09] <sid> What is good software to rip a DVD9 movie, that has css, to a Dual Layer DVD-R, and have the css removed
[05:09] <sid> I don't want to encode or edit much of anything, except maybe remove fbi warning/previews if that is very easy, if not, just a direct copy, but remove css
[05:10] <JohnnyNoBueno>  Can't access my scsi devices!  Gutsy with kernel updated to 2.6.24
[05:10] <Kalamansi> lgc : nope.. this is the network here.. telephone like -- > modem isp -- > pc1 (my server) ubuntu desktop 7.10 --- switch---pc2 (xp home)
[05:10] <jack-desktop> hi boys
[05:10] <FactTech> nickrud I don't think I understand. So I create a file in /etc/modprobe.d -- does it have to have any particular filename, or are all files scanned?
[05:10] <deostroll> Trebel: I did as was instructed here http://www.poopoccurs.com/linux/dualboot.html. Till now I have just created the .lnx file.
[05:10] <Kalamansi> lgc : well im not using router linksys.. i am using modem of my isp connect to nic pc ubuntu
[05:10] <lgc> Kalamansi, I have a little "2Wire" white box with 4 Ethernet connections. That's my modem and my router.
[05:11] <deostroll> Trebel, I simply tried copying this file to my pen drive, but my windows could not detect it...
[05:11] <FactTech> nickrud I see modprobe.d has a man page... Iet me read that before you answer.
[05:11] <Trebel> deostroll: look at the date on that page
[05:11] <bazhang> http://apcmag.com/6101/dualboot_windows_xp_and_ubuntu deostroll
[05:11] <nickrud> FactTech: np, man pages are very useful.
[05:12] <deostroll> Trebel: But someone told me it was okay to do so...
[05:12] <Kalamansi> lgc : my isp gave me a modem (already configured by my isp) with 1 port.
[05:12] <Trebel> deostroll: its ok, but way more difficult than necessary, hold on i'm looking for the page i used
[05:12] <bazhang> deostroll: or www.pendrivelinux.com
[05:12] <Kalamansi> lgc : and that port is directed to my nic
[05:12] <lgc> Kalamansi, I mean that I can connect 4 computers to it (router) and also go out to the Internet (modem).  I don't know much about other equipment, but I figure yours must be somewhat similar.
[05:13] <Kalamansi> lgc : and with that modem i cannot connect 4 pc either. nor 2 pc.. only one pc..
[05:13] <lgc> Kalamansi, if it's configured, you can still change the settings to your taste.
[05:13] <Kalamansi> bazhang : in ubuntu 7.10 is the iptables already installed? or do i need to download it? i am afraid to missed up again with my ubuntu
[05:13] <lgc> Kalamansi, do you have a browser open now?
[05:13] <JohnnyNoBueno>  Can't access my scsi devices!  Gutsy with kernel updated to 2.6.24
[05:14] <Kalamansi> lgc : browser of what?
[05:14] <lgc> Kalamansi, Firefox, for example.
[05:14] <nickrud> bazhang: is that page significantly better than the ubuntu one?
[05:14]  * nickrud is too lazy to look
[05:14] <MdL054> I'm being told they are in use and I am unable to remove them :/
[05:14] <Trebel> deostroll: are you looking to dual boot, or boot of a pen drive?
[05:14] <Kalamansi> lgc : yes i have
[05:14] <Kalamansi> lgc : ubuntu 7.10 desktop have already firefox here
[05:15] <Redf1s1> MdL054: Hrm. But it is still loading ata_piix then?
[05:15] <lgc> If you type "home" on the address window, what happens?
[05:15] <anvo> What is the USB group name under Ubuntu?
[05:15] <MdL054> yes
[05:15] <bazhang> nickrud: the dual boot one? seems more clearly laid out imo
[05:15] <Redf1s1> MdL054: And therfor blacklisting didnt work.
[05:15] <Redf1s1> MdL054: Buggery.
[05:15] <lgc> Kalamansi, that was for you.
[05:15] <MdL054> lame :(
[05:15] <deostroll> trebel: dual boot. Looking to transfer the bootsect.lnx file to windows from where I can probably take care of things myself.
[05:16] <Redf1s1> MdL054: You could do it interestingly by editing the initram by hand? Its relativly simple.
[05:16] <Redf1s1> MdL054: but still pretty... odd
[05:16] <Kalamansi> bazhang : i got it now. i dont have iptables yet. what i did is "service iptables start"
[05:16] <Kalamansi> lgc : ok. what to do with firefox?
[05:16] <MdL054> this whole issue is WAY weird
[05:16] <Trebel> oh, so you're just trying to mount your pen drive?
[05:16] <Redf1s1> MdL054: True.
[05:16] <anvo> Can anybody give a hint, here...? What is the USB group name in Ubuntu?
[05:16] <bazhang> nickrud: should I desist and only use the ubuntu one? just curious
[05:16] <AwesomeGuy> hello all :) i need some help with my cd-rw.. any one up there to help me out plz ? :)
[05:17] <fiXXXerMet> I am trying to mount /dev/sdb1 to /mnt and it keeps telling me "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1,"  The drive is XFS and I have xfs progs installed
[05:17] <lgc> Kalamansi, type "home" (without the quotes) on the URL window of Firefox.
[05:17] <Timbal> Does anyone know the right syntax for executing a *.patch file from the terminal?
[05:17] <mikeylikesit5805> hi all i have an ubuntu 7.10 laptop with a  ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 when i open up a dvd in vlc i can hear it but can see no video all i get is a solid color, does anyone have any ideas
[05:17] <Redf1s1> MdL054: Gentoo has some good initramfs documentation: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Initramfs
[05:17] <WNxCryptic> I just put in the command "useradd virtual -d /var/www" and then I used "ls -ld /var/www" and instead of giving any information on virtual it gives me information for user: root?
[05:17] <nickrud> bazhang: no, I look for good ones to give out. I used to ask them if I could crib from them for ubuntu pages, but haven't done much wiki work recently.
[05:17] <truna> Kalamansi, are you mixing Fedora style and ubuntu style of initiating the services in /etc/init.d ?
[05:17] <Redf1s1> MdL054: You could extract it by hand and remove the ata_piix.ko file.
[05:17] <Redf1s1> MdL054: which is all sorts of ugly.
[05:17] <MdL054> heh
[05:18] <bazhang> nickrud: okay; cheers!
[05:18] <Redf1s1> MdL054: <or> figure out why blacklisting didnt work.
[05:18] <kirk> try usermod now
[05:18] <Redf1s1> MdL054: You could try specifying the kernel with -k *kernel name*
[05:18] <Redf1s1> MdL054: or making that firmware directory ubuntu seems to want.
[05:18] <KB9BVN> Newb here....using Firefox and Chatzilla on Ubuntu desktop ... HOW do I get IDent turned on??
[05:18] <Redf1s1> MdL054: chances are it can be empty
[05:18] <MdL054> ok
[05:18] <Redf1s1> MdL054: thats easier than doing it by hand. :)
[05:18] <WNxCryptic> I just put in the command "useradd virtual -d /var/www" and then I used "ls -ld /var/www" and instead of giving any information on virtual it gives me information for user: root?
[05:18] <MdL054> It can never hurt right?
[05:19] <MdL054> hehe
[05:19] <Redf1s1> nope
[05:19]  * kirk slaps WNxCryptic
[05:19] <MdL054> well i'll give it a shot as soon as I land
[05:19] <MdL054> I'm about to leave for my flight
[05:19] <WNxCryptic> why kirk?
[05:19] <kirk> use usermod to set the home dir again
[05:19] <MdL054> going to germany again
[05:19] <FactTech> nickrud OK, so I created a file (/etc/modprobe.d/sb16-20080110) with the 'options snd-sb16 isapnp=0' line in it. I will still need to update /etc/modules to call for the snd-sb16 module, though, right?
[05:19] <deostroll> Trebel: Should I unmount my pen drive?
[05:19] <kirk> make usr eit has permissions to be there
[05:19] <MdL054> i go back and forth 2-3 times a week
[05:19] <Kalamansi> lgc : okay i saw google
[05:19] <nickrud> FactTech: yep, that will do the trick.
[05:19] <Trebel> deostroll is the .lnx file already on it?
[05:20] <MdL054> never in one place more than a few hrs LOL
[05:20] <WNxCryptic> kirk its a CLI environment, and obviously I'm still getting used to linux.
[05:20] <Redf1s1> MdL054: Sounds good, its got to be something with that, so try it. That documentation has some info, but it may be as simple as creating the firmware folder.
[05:20] <FactTech> nickrud OK, thanks. I think I'm finally starting to understand the whole modules subsystem.
[05:20] <nickrud> FactTech: when the module gets loaded, the loader looks in your file for the options
[05:20] <Kalamansi> truna : im not familiar with fedora.. first time ever to use ubuntu
[05:20] <deostroll> trebel: I can move it to the pen drive. Yes.
[05:20] <MdL054> well thanks so much
[05:20] <Redf1s1> MdL054: which would rock
[05:20] <Trebel> deostroll: i don't get it, you can't see that file when you boot in windows?
[05:20] <kirk> oih
[05:20] <kirk> dude
[05:20] <MdL054> i REALLY appreciate the help
[05:20] <kirk> do
[05:20] <MdL054> its been great
[05:20] <Redf1s1> MdL054: No problem mate, have fun in germany.
[05:20] <lgc> Kalamansi, you should've connected to your modem...
[05:20] <kirk> ls -l ~virtual
[05:20] <MdL054> lol I'll certainly try
[05:20] <MdL054> I'll check back in and let ya know how i turned out :)
[05:20] <deostroll> trebel: Correct... not able to see
[05:20] <MdL054> peace my friend
[05:20] <Timbal> I have a .patch file I want to run.  Does anybody know what command I need to use to run it?
[05:21] <Redf1s1> MdL054: A bien tot; I'll be around sometimes
[05:21] <WNxCryptic> kirk, that works appropriately
[05:21] <Trebel> deostroll: you probably mounted it in ext3 instead of fat
[05:21] <WNxCryptic> does that mean the permissions are set properly?
[05:21] <kirk> yes
[05:21] <WNxCryptic> ok, thank you.
[05:21] <grep100> man patch
[05:21] <kirk> werd
[05:21] <Trebel> deostroll: if its a small enough file i would just upload it to google then get it in windows
[05:21] <lgc> Kalamansi, if that doesn't work, try "http://home".
[05:21] <MdL054> sprechen sie deutsches
[05:21] <MdL054> ?
[05:21] <WNxCryptic> Do you have particular experience with setting up vsftpd with virtual user?
[05:21] <Kalamansi> lgc : i see.. i cannot connect to my modem ip... my isp is the one who setup it. they wont allow me to access it.. the modem is already set "routing" not bridge .. is it okay?
[05:21] <deostroll> Trebel: Hehe I never thought of that...
[05:22] <Redf1s1> MdL054: nope just french and english, i go into french every now and again for some reason.
[05:22] <edwardxp> i need to uninstall a file i downloaded http://www.paulbetts.org/projects/libflashsupport_1.0~2219-2_i386.deb
[05:22] <deostroll> Trebel: I'll c ya when I boot my windows.
[05:22] <edwardxp> but it only gives me the option to reinstall the driver...
[05:22] <Trebel> deostroll: ok
[05:22] <MdL054> sehr gut :)
[05:22] <edwardxp> i want to completely remove it from the system
[05:22] <deostroll> \quit leaving
[05:22] <Kalamansi> lgc : when i type "http://home", firefox redirected me to this site http://www.home.com/
[05:23] <truna> edwardxp, man dpkg and look for options to remove
[05:23] <marshall> hey guys
[05:23] <MdL054> plane leave at 2:00 I should get going
[05:23] <MdL054> :)
[05:23] <MdL054> cya
[05:23] <marshall> good to be back on ubuntu
[05:23] <Redf1s1> ciao
[05:23] <truna> Kalamansi, are you doing that on your client or from the server?
[05:24] <marshall> in what channel would one ask for support with compiz fusion, emerald and metacity?
[05:24] <Kalamansi> truna : i am now in server
[05:24] <Kalamansi> lgc : truna : i am now in server
[05:24] <lgc> Kalamansi, then such method to access your router doesn't work.
[05:25] <lgc> Kalamansi, what?
[05:25] <WNxCryptic> kirk: what's the default directory for the vsftpd binary?
[05:25] <bazhang> marshall: #compiz-fusion if anyone is awake :}
[05:25] <kirk> i dunno
[05:25] <kirk> ./usr/bin
[05:25] <kirk> ?
[05:25] <truna> Kalamansi okay
[05:25] <marshall> bazhang: lol ok thanks
[05:26] <edwardxp> edward@edward-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --unpack libflashsupport_1.0~2219-2_i386.deb    doesn't work :(*
[05:26] <bazhang> no worries
[05:26] <truna> Kalamansi, can you read my pm to you?  read that tutorial ..
[05:26] <lgc> Kalamansi, I'd suggest you take a look at the following page: http://portforward.com/default.htm .
[05:27] <anvo> What is the USB group name in Ubuntu?
[05:27] <lgc> Kalamansi, you can find specific help for your box there almost surely.
[05:27] <Kalamansi> truna : ok.. lgc : ok i will read that up
[05:27] <genii> anvo: plugdev
[05:28] <shazoor> any one help me
[05:28] <WNxCryptic> grrrr...the command "sudo /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart" isn't giving me the normal notifications about starting/stopping the stuff..why????
[05:28] <anvo> No plugdev group in my Ubuntu!!!!
[05:28] <Kalamansi> truna : lgc : im afraid to missed up with my ubuntu again hehehe. thats why i badly need advices on " internet sharing, traffic shapping, firewall setup and blocking dangerous sites or set policy" thanks
[05:28] <truna> edwardxp, to remove a package its dpkg -P  packagename
[05:29] <anvo> powerdev, maybe?
[05:29] <genii> anvo: result on my box of command: groups      :user adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner lpadmin admin netdev powerdev burning
[05:29] <truna> Kalamansi, slow down, only one at a time, you have to understand NAT and port forwarding first
[05:29] <anvo> Hmmm...
[05:29] <marshall> whats the command to allow a process to continue running in the background if you want to return to the prompt in the terminal?
[05:29] <shazoor> how do i install pidgin in feisty fawn...
[05:30] <truna> marshall,  put & at the end like so  command &
[05:30] <sethk> shazoor, didn't find it in the usual repositories?
[05:30] <genii> shazoor: the getdeb website has te deb file you require
[05:30] <genii> sethk: There is gaim and not pidgin in 7.04
[05:30] <Proteque> hello. does the installer in latest ubuntu offer safe resizing of existing windowspartitions?
[05:30] <shazoor> how do i install pidgin in feisty fawn...
[05:31] <genii> Proteque: Yes. Just make sure ntfs ones have filesystem marked clean.
[05:31] <Kalamansi> truna : pc2 can now connec internet...
[05:31] <lgc> Kalamansi, what did you do?
[05:31] <Proteque> genii: what does that mean?
[05:31] <truna> Kalamansi okay good, now what do you want to do next?
[05:31] <bazhang> Kalamansi: success?
[05:32] <sethk> genii, it has been available for ages; why was it removed from the repostories, do you know?
[05:32] <shazoor> ya i have downloadd it from getdeb.com and installed after uninstalling gaim. but i cannot see the pidgin in the internet menu
[05:32] <genii> Proteque: In windows, run the chkdsk command on the drive to make sure no filesystem errors
[05:32] <Proteque> ah like that
[05:32] <Proteque> thak you
[05:32] <Kalamansi> bazhang truna yah success. pc2 can now connect internet
[05:32] <Proteque> thank
[05:32] <genii> Proteque: np
[05:32] <xubuntu> i need to know how to know how to down load java for pogo games
[05:33] <xubuntu> please
[05:33] <shazoor> sathk: ya i have downloadd it from getdeb.com and installed after uninstalling gaim. but i cannot see the pidgin in the internet menu
[05:33] <truna> !java | xubuntu
[05:33] <ubotu> xubuntu: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[05:33] <shazoor> genni: ya i have downloadd it from getdeb.com and installed after uninstalling gaim. but i cannot see the pidgin in the internet menu
[05:33] <genii> sethk: Perhaps now it is available in backports. But afaik still gaim is standard in feisty, pidgin in gutsy
[05:33] <Kalamansi> truna : bazhang now is assigning policy...if i use firestarter im sure pc2 will disconnected from the net....i dont want to reinstall ubuntu again
[05:33] <nickrud> sethk: gaim had to change the name, aol complained I guess
[05:34] <genii> !info pidgin feisty
[05:34] <sethk> nickrud, ah, yes, now I remember
[05:34] <ubotu> Package pidgin does not exist in feisty
[05:34] <truna> Kalamansi, you just have to learn to make iptables rules
[05:34] <genii> See above
[05:34] <shazoor> help me
[05:34] <ixian_> hello.. is there a command to change my screensaver? i can't get into the screensaver settings because ubuntu will freeze every time i do because it doesn't seem to like one particular screensaver (which is the one i set it to).
[05:34] <truna> Kalamansi, did you ever read the tutorial I pasted to you in private?
[05:34] <Kalamansi> truna : bazhang : internet sharing is done.. i use eth2 and gateway is 192.168.0.2.. how to setup firewall and assign policies?
[05:34] <bazhang> Kalamansi: best do some reading first--this is not a quick fix five minute thing
[05:34] <Kalamansi> yeah truna im on it
[05:35] <Kalamansi> truna : so i will not use firestarter?
[05:35] <sethk> nickrud, I ran into the at work today with 7.10.  I should have rmembered.
[05:35] <truna> Kalamansi, if you are on it, read that gandalf tutorial on iptables, firestarter uses iptables
[05:35] <Kalamansi> truna : im sure pc2 will disconnected again
[05:35] <Kalamansi> truna : ok
[05:35] <nickrud> Kalamansi: you can clear all rules in a firewall sudo iptables -F
[05:35] <firefly2442> Is there a reason why IE would display a 404 but not Firefox? (I'm setting the header(404) in PHP)
[05:36] <genii> shazo   bah no wonder tab completion no good, they left
[05:36] <truna> Kalamansi, much easier me think than firestarter, am biased since i have not learned firestarter..manual hack..heh
[05:36] <Kalamansi> nickrud : ahhh ok.. im also doing research on how to cheat the sheet of terminal commands easy way
[05:36] <Kalamansi> truna : hehehe i am not good in typing in terminal
[05:36] <sethk> nickrud, I wondered how xchat magically appears.  New name; make sense.
[05:37] <Trebel> firefly2442: that happened to me when i got a virus in windows, had IE connecting through a proxy server sometimes
[05:37] <J-_> Is there anyway to rid the handles? I guess you'd call them on a panel that isn't expanded? like when I put full transparency on a panel both ends are still white. Can I get rid of them?
[05:37] <Chris|> how do i get extract on my menu in nautilus?
[05:37] <nickrud> sethk: xchat is old, I'm not sure what you mean
[05:37] <firefly2442> Trebel: no IE is doing it correctly, I want the 404 to show up, I'm actually setting it in a PHP page
[05:37] <supersako> how can i connect to my windows machine from my ubuntu laptop??
[05:37] <Kalamansi> truna i just migrated to ubuntu tho very fast internet so far than xp home. i made a tally i install fresh ubuntu and fresh xp home. i compared it by browsing the net. ubuntu is fast than xp home
[05:37] <Trebel> oh, nm then
[05:37] <NoelJB> nickrud, I've got Gutsy on one USB external drive, Hardy on another, MS-Windows on the internal drive.  Working toward being able to ditch MS-Windows as my host system, and use Ubuntu.  So testing early and often for hardware support is key.
[05:38] <supersako> i went to System -> Network when i try to connect im supplying my username and password and domain MSHOME
[05:38] <truna> Kalamansi, okay
[05:38] <sethk> nickrud, You said there is a problem with the name, so ubuntu changed the name.  If that's not what you meant to say, tell me.
[05:38] <nickrud> NoelJB: yup, I see your reasons. I'm more patient :)
[05:39] <nickrud> sethk: gaim became pidgin, xchat is a separate app. If I misunderstood you it's not a unique experience in my life
[05:39] <vexati0n> so.. i downloaded kde4.. blah.
[05:39] <nickrud> sethk: I'm resigned to screwing up while listening :)
[05:39] <sethk> nickrud, no, I probably said gaim,
[05:40] <Kalamansi> truna: same thing with bulmer. i mean the typing words or whatever that thing you call but advance
[05:40] <truna> NoelJB, having two external USB drive, how does your bios tell which of the two it can boot from?
[05:40] <sethk> nickrud, my fault this time.  :)
[05:40] <flamesage> Hola.
[05:40] <flamesage> Can you guys recomend some themes for my new Ubuntu? :)
[05:41] <flamesage> What are some good themes for Ubuntu?
[05:41] <Trebel> flamesage: www.gnome-look.org
[05:41] <nickrud> flamesage: I like gion icons, use generic control themes
[05:41] <flamesage> Well yeah
[05:41] <Kalamansi> !cheat sheet
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cheat sheet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <flamesage> I looked there..
[05:41] <flamesage> But.. I didn't find anything good.
[05:41] <nickrud> flamesage: art.gnome.org tries to select the quality ones
[05:41] <flamesage> Any themes you guys personally like?
[05:41] <sethk> supersako, basic question:  is samba installed on configured?
[05:41] <flamesage> i've looked there too >_>
[05:42] <Proteque> flamesage: milk
[05:42] <supersako> i have samba installed yes
[05:42] <supersako> on the ubuntu machine right?
[05:42] <bazhang> heh
[05:42] <theshadow> how do I install the nvidia panel?
[05:42] <Trebel> flamesage: i really like mandolux for my backgrounds
[05:42] <Kalamansi> truna : what are the other ker word aside from " cheat sheet" ? cannot find some cheat sheet typing . someone told me here (i forgot his nick) that there is an "old school" term for hacking the cheat sheet for easy typing
[05:42] <sethk> supersako, yes, the other side is really windows.
[05:42] <flamesage> Any otheres you guys prefer?
[05:43] <sethk> theshadow, same way it was installed in the first place.
[05:43] <supersako> doesnt samba come with ubuntu?
[05:43] <sid> I have this DVD9 unencrypted directory, with VIDEO_TS, what gui burning software can I use to burn this to a Dual Layer DVD-R I have?
[05:43] <supersako> i have 7.19
[05:43] <bazhang> flamesage: not really the right channel for this; best to join offtopic
[05:43] <supersako> 7.10*
[05:43] <flamesage> how do I join that?
[05:43] <truna> Kalamansi, i dont know, a cheat sheet is basically a shortcut notes
[05:43] <theshadow> sethk: that doesn't really help.
[05:43] <Trebel> do /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:43] <theshadow> sethk: if I knew that I wouldn't have asked
[05:43] <bazhang> flamesage: /join #ubuntu-offtopic or click on the link
[05:44] <heatmzzr> hello all, is there a way to have different desktop images on the switcher like kde?
[05:44] <bazhang> sid not sure have you tried devede?
[05:45] <ForgetYouNot> whats is a fast bit torrent for linux?
[05:45] <supersako> hmm i need a samba server running in order to access windows?? i thought thats if i want windows to acess linux
[05:45] <peabody> ForgetYouNot: If you have the RAM, azureus, if not, probably uTorrent through wine
[05:45] <sid> ForgetYouNot: bittyrant
[05:45] <jason> hey guys i've installed the propreitry ati driver, i cant start compiz cause the dual head resolution is to high. but when i try to change it in xorg.conf it seems to have no affect. would the res be stored somewhere else?
[05:45] <firefly2442> ForgetYouNot: rtorrent
[05:45] <truna> sid that new wodim seems to do lots, dont know if it can do your DVD9 to dual layer
[05:46] <ForgetYouNot> thanks for the info
[05:46] <sethk> supersako, it's included in the repositories.  You may need to install it with apt-get (or synaptic).
[05:46] <bazhang> !info samba
[05:46] <supersako> sethk why would i need samba-server to access windows
[05:46] <ubotu> samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.3 (gutsy), package size 3751 kB, installed size 9212 kB
[05:46] <NoelJB> truna, pretty easily, actually.  I get a menu asking me from which drive I want to boot.
[05:46] <truna> supersako, what do you really want to do anyways between windows and linux?
[05:47] <NoelJB> truna, and I have more than two USB drives.  those are just the ones currently housing bootable systems.
[05:47] <sethk> supersako, I didn't say samba server, I side the entire samba.
[05:47] <bazhang> its optionul supersako
[05:47] <htmljunkie> e
[05:47] <supersako> well
[05:47] <supersako> i am on a linux laptop on my wireless network just need to access my windows computer on the server and get my music
[05:47] <sethk> supersako, installing it is very quick, so install it and eliminate that variable.
[05:47] <NoelJB> supersako, you don't.  I was just browsing the local LAN here with a clean Hardy install.
[05:48] <truna> NoelJB, thanks for satisfying my curiosity, i didnt realize boot from usb will seek all bootable usb drives it sees
[05:48] <supersako> sethk i dont want a process running if i dont need it ( samba server )
[05:48] <NoelJB> truna, depends on your BIOS, I suppose.
[05:49] <sethk> supersako, I never said to run the server (which actually get's launched if an approriate request arrives, which means it not really runnin)
[05:49] <Kalamansi> yeah short cut note truna
[05:49] <truna> NoelJB, right, am still on an old mobo, cant even support a usb boot, well maybe usb fdd  as i was able touse  damn small linux
[05:49] <sethk> supersako, at a minimum you need sambafs
[05:49] <whabo> hello i have a question why videos go blank ( black ) on VLC player?? i mean it plays fine in any player excpet VLC it plays for few seconds but if i touch the window it goes black .. and only the audio plays .. any suggestions??? thank you PLEASE HELP
[05:49] <supersako> i tried with samba same error
[05:49] <bazhang> whabo: with compiz?
[05:50] <Kalamansi> truna : bazhang the bruce lee : lgc : thanks alot i am reading it now..
[05:50] <truna> supersako, so you basically have some files in windows and want to transfer those to linux?
[05:50] <qfour21> I just applied some updates to a fiesty box and rebooted and X won't start.  Last message in the logs is "Fatal server error: no screens found"
[05:50] <SamHamwich> Wireless problem: Under Feisty and Gutsy, I my compaq laptop can detect my wireless hub, but no application can actually reach the net.  I have tried manual configuration instead of NetworkManager - System/Administration/Network shows the wireless connection as active.  Still no net access (eg with Firefox).  anybody have any suggestions?
[05:50] <whabo> bazhang yes with compiz
[05:50] <lgc> Kalamansi, happy reading!
[05:50] <sethk> supersako, tell us what you mean.  Tell us what you ran, and tell is the _exact_ response.
[05:50] <whabo> any idea why
[05:50] <NoelJB> supersako, I can do that right now without installing anything beyond a clean install.  What problem are you having?
[05:50] <qfour21> nvidia module shows up using lsmod
[05:50] <bazhang> whabo: what about with compiz disabled? does that work?
[05:50] <Kalamansi> !ati
[05:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:50] <Trebel> qfour21: did it rewrite your xorg.conf file?
[05:50] <whabo> bazhang : yes if i disable compiz
[05:51] <sethk> SamHamwich, in the routing table, the default route should point to the wireless access point.
[05:51] <SamHamwich> Note; I did (and do) connect OK under Edgy
[05:51] <whabo> bazbang: tho any other player plays it fine....
[05:51] <qfour21> Trebel: not that I know of.  My customizations (resolution and such) are still there.
[05:51] <NoelJB> supersako, Places -> Network -> Windows Network -> [my network] -> [our systems] -> [their resources]    working fine.  I'm browsing as I type.
[05:51] <supersako> ya i did that
[05:51] <truna> SamHamwich, does your pc have an ip address? check via  iwconfig wlan0   assuming wlan0 is your nic name
[05:51] <SamHamwich> thanks sethk.  where do i find the routing table?
[05:51] <Chris|> how do i get extract on my menu in nautilus?
[05:51] <supersako> i get up to C$ folder
[05:52] <bazhang> whabo: I have had that problem as well; suspect it is more compiz related then ubuntu though--I just shut down compiz when watching movies as a workaround--you can also ask in the compiz-fusion channel if anyone is around :}
[05:52] <sethk> SamHamwich, at the command line, route (no arguments) lists the current routing table.  There is a flag for netstat to get it in the netstat output.
[05:52] <xubuntu> help i need to know how down lode java to play games on pogo please
[05:52] <whabo> bazhang thank you
[05:52] <bazhang> xubuntu: what is pogo?
[05:52] <Kalamansi> truna : bazhang : lgc : lunch time be back in a few. =) thanks
[05:52] <bazhang> no worries whabo
[05:52] <Kalamansi> bazhang : do you sleep?
[05:52] <Kalamansi> you always chat
[05:53] <deostroll> Dual boot not loading. Help...
[05:53] <NoelJB> supersako, are you sure that the system you are browsing to has anything else shared?
[05:53] <Kalamansi> hehe
[05:53] <bazhang> Kalamansi: I am a bot
[05:53] <sethk> SamHamwich, easiest way to run "route" at the command line.  See what the settings are currently.
[05:53] <Kalamansi> ok lunch
[05:53] <supersako> hmm
[05:53] <whabo> bazbang im playing the DVD with mplayer and it plays it fine but VLC cant ... o well ill stick with mplayer
[05:53] <Kalamansi> waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa bazhang
[05:53] <supersako> ya let me check the shared folders
[05:53] <Trebel> qfour21: i hate that error, could be many things, for me its always been a nvidia problem, but as long as your loading the right drivers, nvidia instead of nv you should be ok
[05:53] <Kalamansi> bazhang : serious?
[05:53] <Kalamansi> !bazhang
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bazhang - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <supersako> prob stupid windows giving me problems ;)
[05:53] <Kalamansi> !bot
[05:53] <Trebel> deostroll: what did you do?
[05:53] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:53] <bazhang> Kalamansi: see you after lunch
[05:53] <Kalamansi> nah you are not
[05:53] <Kalamansi> ok ok bazhang
[05:53] <bazhang> no I am not
[05:53] <Kalamansi> bazhang : gua ai di
[05:53] <SamHamwich> truna, i don't see an ip address, unless it is "Access Point: 00:18:02:70:5F:08"
[05:54] <NoelJB> keep in mind that we're only browsing storage resources.  not printers, etc., as far as I can see (since I know which of our systems export printers, and I only see the file system shares).
[05:54] <truna> SamHamwich, lest you get an ip address, you can not get anywhere
[05:54] <sethk> bazhang, last I checked, bot's don't get lunch.
[05:54] <deostroll> Trebel: downloaded the file from google and followed the instructions as per that web page. The system sits idle when I select ubuntu...
[05:54] <sethk> NoelJB, that's the mac address at a layer lower than you are interested in.
[05:55] <Fade2BLK> man wtf is up wtin efnet servers
[05:55] <bazhang> whabo: contrary to popular opinion mplayer is just as good or better than vlc--at least imo
[05:55] <Trebel> deostroll: are you using vista or xp?
[05:55] <truna> SamHamwich, do this,  iwconfig wlan0  and pastebin the results
[05:55] <bazhang> sethk: haha
[05:55] <Chris|> mplayer is good i like totem though
[05:55] <deostroll> Trebel: I use xp.
[05:55] <Chris|> i actually dont even like vlc my two cents
[05:55] <NoelJB> sethk, Huh?  Context?
[05:55] <khirr> how can i change nautilus for thunar? (mean default)
[05:56] <SamHamwich> sethk and truna, "route" shows an I.P. address of 192.168.1.0
[05:56] <NoelJB> sethk, or did you just mean that for someone else, e.g., SamHamwich ?
[05:56] <truna> SamHamwich, lest you get an ip address, you can not get anywhere..pastebin your iwconfig wlan0  results
[05:56] <scurry7> hello
[05:56] <sethk> noeljb not for you, sorry, I was confusing two users.
[05:56] <NoelJB> sethk, :-)
[05:56] <Trebel> deostroll: did you get my pm?
[05:57] <SamHamwich> umm.. pastebin?  sorry, i don't know the term
[05:57] <deostroll> Trebel: no.
[05:57] <heatmzzr> is there a way to run gnome and kde, not at the same time but on the same machine
[05:57] <truna> !pastebin | SamHamwich
[05:57] <ubotu> SamHamwich: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:57] <SamHamwich> truna, sorry, i don't know "pastebin"
[05:57] <sethk> heatmzzr, sure.
[05:57] <vexati0n> heatmzzr: you can run gnome and kde at the same time, it just sucks.
[05:57] <flamesage> I have a question..
[05:57] <heatmzzr> haha
[05:58] <sethk> heatmzzr, simply install both, you can choose one at login time
[05:58] <flamesage> If I download Kubuntu Hardy Alpha 3, will I be able to simply do a sudo apt-get update to upgrade to the new KDE 4.0?
[05:58] <sethk> heatmzzr, I thought you said "not at once"
[05:58] <Trebel> deostroll: essentially what you're doing is copying your linux kernel to your windows partition and booting off of it, the problem with this is each time you do a kernel update you're going to have to do this all over again
[05:58] <NoelJB> flamesage, Hardy is in the #ubuntu+1 channel
[05:58] <sethk> heatmzzr, I have gnome and kde (not to mention several other) desktops installed.
[05:58] <Trebel> deostroll: with the old redhat and lilo this was necessary, but grub is a much better bootloader, go here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[05:59] <Trebel> deostroll: it will overwrite your MBR and have linux manage it instead of windows
[06:00] <scurry7> NoelJB: I'm back with questions... (nvidia 7900 - driver probs...)
[06:00] <scurry7> I did a nvidia-installer --update (which updated me to the version you linked me to) and it works fine BUT after a reboot gdm to load.  I've check my xorg.conf it does not change - i even deleted it did a dpkg-reconfigure (as stated in the xorg.conf) then ran the nvidia-xconfig, nothing works.  ANY IDEAS?
[06:00] <deostroll> Trebel: Ok will check it out. Thanks.
[06:00] <sethk> SamHamwich, that's not an IP, it's the base of an ip block.
[06:01] <xubuntu> help can,t download java  please help
[06:01] <heatmzzr> ok ima newbie. sethk, how do i do that?
[06:01] <Trebel> deostroll: np, with what you've already done  you can do this no problem
[06:01] <NoelJB> scurry7, that's just weird.  check the permissions on /etc/X11.  I can give you my config, for all the good it might do.
[06:01] <supersako> yay it works
[06:01] <supersako> it was microbsoft windows ;(
[06:02] <Trebel> scurry7: sudo nvidia-xconfig ?
[06:02] <NoelJB> supersako, ain't it always the case ... LOL
[06:02] <scurry7> NoelJB: well the thing is my xorg.conf is working now
[06:02] <scurry7> Trebel: let me try that (inside gdm or shoud i stop it first?)
[06:02] <Trebel> you have to stop it
[06:03] <SamHamwich> sethk, truna... i've pasted the output from iwconfig eth1 and route at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51531/
[06:03] <NoelJB> scurry7, so what exactly is the problem, if your xorg.conf is OK now?
[06:03] <jklfdjskl> compiz fusion kicks ass
[06:03] <bazhang> language jklfdjskl
[06:03] <Trebel> scurry7: ctrl alt f4
[06:03] <jklfdjskl> lol ok
[06:04] <scurry7> NoelJB: i dont think it the xorg.conf......(the config stays the same, but when i reboot all of a sudden gdm will not load (with out having to reinstall the driver from nvidia script))
[06:04] <scurry7> Trebel: sorry if forgot i did the nvidia-xconfig already
[06:04] <sethk> SamHamwich, try using an IP address instead of chico.  Using a name, you are vulnerable to dns problems.
[06:05] <truna> SamHamwich, can you add your  ifconfig eth1 results too? we'd like to see your ip address
[06:05] <Trebel> scurry7: was just making sure you did it as superuser
[06:05] <htmljunkie> hey i'm on xubuntu , im' trying to put a dock on like zenwalk has
[06:05] <htmljunkie>  how do I do that?  install avant-window-navigator?
[06:05] <scurry7> Trebel: oh right...( i did it as superuser - :-[)
[06:06] <SamHamwich> sethk, how do i "use" an i.p. address
[06:06] <scurry7> all: so if it is not my xorg.conf what else can i check???
[06:06] <Char> For some reason I can't get 1400x1050 running with X. Running Gutsy on a lenovo thinkpad T60 with a Radeon Mobility X1300. Here is my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.ca/850447
[06:06] <kirk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S-_5ZjLHKc&NR=1
[06:06] <bazhang> htmljunkie: not sure what the zenwalk one looks like but awn is a dock like thing yes
[06:07] <jklfdjskl> other than upgrading hardware, how can i rid myself of that annoying black flicker on the firefox menu bar when i open it
[06:07] <htmljunkie> how do i install it?
[06:07] <bazhang> kirk: is there a support question tied to that video?
[06:07] <jklfdjskl> oops wrong room
[06:07] <kirk> yes
[06:07] <kirk> thier is just let me find it
[06:07] <sethk> SamHamwich, you use ###.###.###.###  instead of "chico" in your example.
[06:07] <NoelJB> scurry7, weird.
[06:08] <bazhang> htmljunkie: the forums have some info, and a simple net search of ubuntu gutsy awn will yield some nice walkthroughs
[06:08] <roky> hi there all, Can someone help me out with a problem I am currently having with firefox here in ubuntu, I just installed ubuntu again and For the past few days I havent been able to figure out why anyyy kind of media wont load correctly in ff
[06:08] <SamHamwich> sethk and truna, i've added ifconfig to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51533/
[06:08] <htmljunkie> k
[06:09] <heatmzzr> sethk, how do i install kde desktop and pick which one to run or whatever?
[06:09] <SamHamwich> sethk, sounds reasonable.  how do i get an I.P. address, and how do i add it to the table?
[06:10] <truna> SamHamwich, the "chico" is that something you have added or is that something that came from your dhcp server (ap/dhcp server?)
[06:10] <sethk> heatmzzr, Easiest way is to use synaptic, which has a KDE section.  If you know the pseudo-package name, you can just sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[06:10] <Char> For some reason I can't get 1400x1050 running with X. Running Gutsy on a lenovo thinkpad T60 with a Radeon Mobility X1300. Here is my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.ca/850447
[06:10] <sethk> heatmzzr, the install adds it to the list of available desktops.  Then, at the login screen, you change the session.
[06:11] <roky> hi there all, Can someone help me out with a problem I am currently having with firefox here in ubuntu, I just installed ubuntu again and For the past few days I havent been able to figure out why anyyy kind of media wont load correctly in ff
[06:11] <sethk> heatmzzr, there are numerous login managers around, but I'm sure you'll find it for the one you are using.
[06:12] <sethk> SamHamwich, easy question first.  You run a "route add ..." command to add it to the routing table.  You remove the current values, also using the route command with route delete
[06:12] <rrbiz> roky: what kind of media ?
[06:12] <sethk> SamHamwich,  hopefully "host chico" will show you the IP of chico
[06:13] <IcemanV9> Char: comment out the line "DisplaySize  370 277" ... btw, i have tp z60m with 1400x1050
[06:13] <_MattB> how can i get the progress of a dd operation? the example from the man page seems to give statistics on the speed, but nothing about how much has completed
[06:13] <roky> anything rrbiz, mp3, wav, and type of video files anything media and it either wont display or is all messed up with the play button in the middle of the screen or something
[06:13] <Char> IcemanV9: will try, thanks.
[06:13] <truna> sethk did he add that "chico" manually? or was that doled out by the dhcp server in his AP?
[06:14] <sethk> truna, don't know.  My ubuntu boxes use IPs when I get info from a dhcp server, but I'm not sure that's universally true.
[06:14] <rrbiz> roky: earlier i couldn't play flash video due to the plugin not being in the right place
[06:15] <truna> sethk i think that is pretty universal, how he got that "chico" in the route tables, he must have added those manually
[06:15] <roky> erm, I installed it with ff though
[06:15] <bazhang> roky: this is feisty? gutsy
[06:15] <roky> gutsy
[06:15] <roky> bazhang
[06:16] <char> IcemanV9: unfortunately that didn't work.
[06:16] <bazhang> roky: do you have the ubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[06:16] <char> I restarted X and nothing.
[06:16] <roky> bazhang, I doubt it, lmao
[06:16] <char> the problem was that I tried to install the ati-driver-installer
[06:16] <bazhang> roky: well that would be a starting point--check if that is installed
[06:17] <IcemanV9> char: did you follow the wiki on installing ATI? that's where i got it to work on mine
[06:18] <roky> bazhang, Im installing with terminal right now
[06:18] <BRUCE_> i need to get a good ISO burning prog. can anyone help??????????
[06:18] <char> I've reverted back to the original driver now.
[06:18] <char> The restricted driver.
[06:18] <bazhang> roky: that should hopefully clear it up
[06:18] <char> Just trying to get my resolution back to normal.
[06:18] <IcemanV9> char: also, i was able to get 1680x1050 to work; much better resolution than 1440 one
[06:18] <roky> bazhang, yes I hope so
[06:18] <roky> bruce....do you need to make iso's or to be able to burn them to a disk?
[06:18] <bazhang> BRUCE_: for burning iso files youcan right clikc open with cd/dvd creator
[06:19] <BRUCE_> i tryed it didnt burn
[06:19] <char> How can I check what driver I have installed?
[06:19] <haxality> hey all
[06:19] <bazhang> BRUCE_: this is in ubuntu right? windows uses something different
[06:19] <winkman> Hi, can someone tell me how to install an older version of a program (namely libboost-date-time)
[06:19] <haxality> when I boot my system with ndiswrapper in /etc/modules, it hangs for about 6 minutes on login
[06:19] <BRUCE_> im on 7.10
[06:20] <bazhang> BRUCE_: what iso file--that might be the problem
[06:20] <char> IcemanV9: It's still reading my card as an X1400 for some reason.
[06:20] <IcemanV9> char: fglrxinfo
[06:20] <haxality> does anyone know if there's a simple fix, or if this is a bigger underlying ndiswrapper issue?
[06:20] <winkman> anyone?
[06:20] <bazhang> winkman: why would you want to do that?
[06:20] <BRUCE_> in a new OS called gOS (based ok 7.10)
[06:21] <BRUCE_> on
[06:21] <haxality> gOS != Ubuntu 7.10
[06:21] <truna> haxality, i believe its because its attempting to search for AP, and associate at boot?
[06:21] <haxality> it's heavily based on it, but it's not identical
[06:21] <winkman> bazhang: because a program (campcaster) requires libboost-date-time1.33.1 and i have libboost1.34.1...
[06:21] <bazhang> BRUCE_: oh, then wrong channel that is not ubuntu and not supported here
[06:21] <haxality> truna, that could very well be possible! is there a way to prevent this?
[06:21] <char> IcemanV9: http://pastebin.ca/850457
[06:21] <haxality> or change the timeout period?
[06:21] <BRUCE_> in talking about buring tho!
[06:21] <BRUCE_> ...
[06:22] <haxality> BRUCE_, I didn't mean to sound like I was shooing you away
[06:22] <xubuntu> how do i download jave used to play games on pogo? please
[06:22] <koshaboi> what's the channel for the beta ubuntu chat?
[06:22] <IcemanV9> char: after you installed the video driver, did you try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ?
[06:22] <bazhang> BRUCE_: who knows how gOS does things? no one here certainly
[06:22] <winkman> bazhang: so do you know?
[06:22] <char> IcemanV9: Yea, I'm not sure what to put for all of the settings.
[06:22] <truna> haxality, umm dont load ndiswrapper at boot?
[06:22] <haxality> :(
[06:22] <bazhang> koshaboi: #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:22] <BRUCE_> ok... but5 i meant burning (in just need a good burner)
[06:22] <roky> bazhang, gOS is a dumbed down version of ubuntu
[06:22] <haxality> I was hoping there was a less kludgy way than that :P
[06:23] <kahrytan> !hardy | koshaboi
[06:23] <ubotu> koshaboi: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[06:23] <haxality> BRUCE_, if you have the kde libs, k3b is excellent.
[06:23] <bazhang> winkman campcaster? not really sure--you might try the forums/search engines
[06:23] <haxality> BRUCE_, it's basically like using nero on windows
[06:23] <IcemanV9> char: it should be automatically created a new one without asking
[06:23] <BRUCE_> coo, i preciate the hellp
[06:23] <winkman> bazhang: It's a radio broadcasting app, www.campware.org
[06:23] <BRUCE_> thanx
[06:23] <char> It asks me to fill out information.
[06:23] <haxality> BRUCE_, any time
[06:24] <BRUCE_> take care
[06:24] <bazhang> BRUCE_: there are plenty of good burners, but as gOS uses e17 not sure what they support--best to go to their support site
[06:25] <IcemanV9> char: your video has mesa and mine has ATI (x600); little difference
[06:25] <damo22> im pretty happy with xfce i dont think ill bother changing to e17
[06:25] <char> IcemanV9: Probably why that other thing didn't work. =P
[06:25] <roky> well, the install didnt work
[06:26] <koshaboi> Are KDE4 packages up yet?
[06:26]  * mypapit out!!!
[06:26] <Nereos> hi
[06:26] <jay2xra> hi everyone.... i'm having problem with my wireless connection.... anyone willing to help?
[06:27] <IcemanV9> char: yeah ... i have seen it does work with mesa in ubuntuforums.org and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATIhere's the wiki that helped me -->
[06:27] <roky> can anyone help me with trying to get media displayed properly in firefox in gutsy
[06:27] <sandma2> Can anyone help me install a ATI video card?
[06:27] <sandma2> well the drivers for a ATI Card?
[06:28] <bazhang> roky: the install failed? can you be more precise? those are the packages you need
[06:28] <SamHamwich> sethk, truna... i just realized, the stuff I pastebin'd for you was from my current session under edgy - it won't help with the feisty/gutsy problem.   I'lll have to disconnect, to re-boot under gutsy and try the stuff you suggested.  I'll come back with (at least) the correct output if i can't fix it.  thanks
[06:28]  * IcemanV9 just reread his reply ... man, must be tired
[06:28] <bazhang> sandma2: want a factoid/link?
[06:29] <sandma2> ok
[06:29] <roky> bazhang: no,, the install finished with 0 errors, but for some reason or another. it still is displayed alll messed up like it was before
[06:29] <bazhang> !ati | sandma2
[06:29] <ubotu> sandma2: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:29] <IcemanV9> sandma2: follow the wiki --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:29] <bazhang> roky: you did quit and restart firefox right?
[06:29] <roky> bazhang: lawl, yeah
[06:30] <bazhang> roky: what are the precise errors you are getting? problems with flash? mp3 what
[06:31] <bazhang> when will flash be fixed ugh
[06:31] <roky> bazhang: there's no errors in firefox literally. It says its actually completed the page and loaded it, but when I look at it, all media is messed up totally. There's not really an "error" message displayed
[06:31] <bazhang> roky: messed up? like black screen for flash or what and what about streaming mp3
[06:31] <sandma2> hmmmm doesnt seem to reconize the card?? What could be wrong??
[06:32] <bazhang> sandma2: what card? do you have the correct drivers installed?
[06:33] <roky> bazhang: streaming mp3, unless its embedded, and even then it wont play. Like for instance on myspace, trying to play something for music, the player acts like its about to load into the song. But it ends up disappearing. For videos, all the buttons are all over the video screen, the play buttong will be right in the middle of the movie screen, the pause button will be where the fast forward button is suppose to be etc...
[06:34] <sandma2> its a ATI Radeon HD 2400 Pro PCI Express Graphics card
[06:34] <sandma2> no the right drivers arnt installed. Thats what i am trying to do
[06:34] <bazhang> roky: hmm-sounds bad--what card and what driver for video and how did you install it? please dont say automatix or envy
[06:34] <jay2xra> help: two cards connected to two access points... first do an rsync via the first card... getting 60/kbps, then do an rsync via the second card, now the first rsync becomes 30/kbps... it slowed down the first connection even though data are traveling on separate interfaces.... any idea?
[06:35] <bazhang> sandma2: are you a speed reader? :} those links should be able to get you going
[06:35] <roky> bazhang: lmao, nah bro. Nvidia, I ran the glx install then I installed all the compiz fusion through updates and synaptic
[06:36] <sandma2> they say to use the Restricted Driver Manager but there are no drivers there
[06:36] <bazhang> roky: ah good phew! with compiz running? there seems to be a lot of complaints with compiz and video these days--did you see how it is with compiz disabled--this might pinpoint the problem
[06:36] <jay2xra> yuhu...
[06:36] <jay2xra> help: two cards connected to two access points... first do an rsync via the first card... getting 60/kbps, then do an rsync via the second card, now the first rsync becomes 30/kbps... it slowed down the first connection even though data are traveling on separate interfaces.... any idea?
[06:37] <roky> bazhang: I dont have any problems with anything, this is about my 4th time running ubuntu full time. I can't seem to locate it either. It's runs perfect in gaming and other apps with compiz running at max. no issues but in ff It's all fucked up I think it's actually ff not my gpu
[06:38] <bazhang> sandma2: I'm on nvidia so not really sure how to go about an ati install--perhaps others can help (if anyone is awake)
[06:38] <IcemanV9> sandma2: type fglrxinfo in the terminal
[06:38] <stdin> !language | roky
[06:38] <ubotu> roky: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[06:38] <bazhang> roky: ahem language; firefox then hmm that is odd
[06:39] <roky> bazhang,stdin,ubotu, sorry ;) I shall
[06:39] <carlos> alguem fa la portugues?
[06:39] <sandma2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51534/
[06:39] <aganthorp> anyone have experience with fglrx problems?
[06:39] <bazhang> !pt
[06:39] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[06:39] <mynyml> is there a way to send the image to tv through s-video without having to restart X ?
[06:39] <CyberMad> what is the best tool to do auto backup of user documents?
[06:39] <bazhang> carlos: see above
[06:40] <Onyx> I just started gdm again, and my desktop background and icons did not show up.  How can I restore them and how can I make sure this doesn't happen again?
[06:40] <truna> jay2xra, curious how did you make your route table to split the transfer between the two? what was your command to do this?
[06:40] <bazhang> rsync CyberMad?
[06:41] <jay2xra> well, i'm using rsync with ssh..
[06:41] <jay2xra> my default route is on the first card..
[06:41] <jay2xra> after connecting...
[06:41] <jay2xra> i changed the bind address of ssh to that of the second card..
[06:41] <phuzion> How do I open a new server tab in xchat?
[06:41] <bazhang> !info rsync
[06:41] <ubotu> rsync: fast remote file copy program (like rcp). In component main, is standard. Version 2.6.9-5ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 256 kB, installed size 516 kB
[06:41] <jay2xra> so that my second rsync will pass through the second card..
[06:41] <roky> phuzion, irc>connect
[06:42] <phuzion> roky: what if I don't have the server in my list?
[06:42] <aganthorp> anybody able to help me troubleshoot an fglrx issue?
[06:42] <IcemanV9> sandma2: ah. mesa. type "glxinfo | grep direct" in the terminal. did it said yes or no?
[06:42] <roky> phuzion edit>preferences>
[06:43] <roky> phuzion: >networks
[06:43] <truna> jay2xra, am even surprise that works..rebinding sshd to a different nic and all
[06:43] <sandma2> Nope
[06:43] <roky> phuzion: then click add, and then add the IRC server you want
[06:43] <phuzion> roky, I know that I can add them in, but isn't there a way to open a new blank tab so I can just do /server whatever?
[06:43] <jay2xra> nope... not sshd...
[06:43] <jay2xra> ssh...
[06:43] <LetterRip> hi all, I have an SD card but I'm not sure how to mount it, once I insert the card doing lsusb gives - That is essentially what Stray et al are saying. It's hard to get good data, and this guy doesn't have it, or if he does, he certainly can't defend it.[/quote]
[06:43] <LetterRip> oops wrong paste
[06:44] <LetterRip> it gives  -   Bus 002 Device 003: ID 058f:6366 Alcor Micro Corp.
[06:44] <amitprakash> hi.. can someone help me compile tiny OS 1.1
[06:44] <SeveredCross> LetterRip: The volume manager should automatically mount it if the chipset your card reader is supported.
[06:44] <jay2xra> my two ssh connections are now originating on two different IPs
[06:44] <LetterRip> so where would i see it if it is automounted?
[06:44] <IcemanV9> sandma2: not good, then. it would be better to use open source ATI driver instead of fglrx
[06:44] <roky> phuzion: once you add it go to it in the server list and it will automatically open a new tab with the server window for you
[06:44] <SeveredCross> LetterRip: On the desktop.
[06:45] <LetterRip> hmm okay then why do i see it show up under lsusb?
[06:46] <phuzion> roky: I understand that, but there are certain situations where I need to connect to a network quickly without adding it to my list, is there anything like mIRC's /server -m argument?
[06:46] <SeveredCross> phuzion: ^T
[06:46] <roky> phuzion: I personally don't know maybe someone else here would.
[06:46] <sandma2> IcemanV9: How would i do that??
[06:46] <phuzion> SeveredCross: Control+T?
[06:47] <SeveredCross> Yeah.
[06:47] <phuzion> Doesn't work
[06:47] <SeveredCross> It'll open a new server tab for you.
[06:47] <aganthorp> ls
[06:47] <aganthorp> exit
[06:47] <SeveredCross> Works for me phuzion.
[06:47] <phuzion> What version you running?
[06:47] <SeveredCross> Other than that, there are no flags to pass to server.
[06:47] <SeveredCross> Uh, 2.8.5e (on Windows right nwo) but I know I've used it in Gutsy and in Hardy.
[06:47] <phuzion> Oh, wow
[06:48] <phuzion> I'm using some xchat-gnome 0.18 version
[06:48] <phuzion> what the hell
[06:48] <SeveredCross> Ah.
[06:48] <phuzion> I'm gonna update this real quick
[06:48] <SeveredCross> Remove xchat-gnome, install just plain' xchat.
[06:48] <phuzion> Alright
[06:48] <jay2xra> this is really strange.... on netstat i'm seeing two established connections on two interfaces....  these wireless interfaces are connected to two different APs....  both are transferring at 30 kbps, now if i cut down the first connection, the second connection goes up to 60, as if ubuntu is treating the two cards as connected to just one AP....
[06:48] <LetterRip> okay it automounted now
[06:48] <LetterRip> wierd
[06:49] <phuzion> That was easy
[06:49] <jerkface03> gcc comes with the standard ubuntu server installation, correct?
[06:50] <bazhang> jerkface03: you want to compile? install build-essential
[06:50] <jerkface03> does that include 4.1 or 4.2?
[06:51] <bazhang> !info build-essential
[06:51] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[06:51] <jerkface03> no i mean does that include gcc 4.1 or 4.2?
[06:51] <bazhang> !info gcc
[06:51] <ubotu> gcc: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.2-9ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB
[06:51] <jerkface03> k
[06:52] <IcemanV9> sandma2: well, uninstall fglrx, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, restart X ... and more info on troubleshooting --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:53] <rencore_> how can i get my codecs back in firefox 3
[06:54] <Flannel> rencore_: You should ask in #firefox on irc.mozilla.org
[06:56] <rabi> Hi everybody. My menu editor doesn't start in gusty.
[06:56] <yaba> ?
[06:56] <mattholimeau> anyone know any good social channels on this here IRC thing?
[06:57] <rabi> I have a problem. My menueditor doesn't start in ubuntu gusty. can somebody help me?
[06:57] <scurry7> hello
[06:57] <bazhang> patience rabi
[06:58] <barurot69> why I couldn't browse my network share in samba?
[06:59] <TigranG> HI. How do I check for mouse inputs? There was a command, I forgot it
[07:00] <linux-ubuntu> hola
[07:00] <linux-ubuntu> espanol
[07:00] <Flannel> !es | linux-ubuntu
[07:00] <ubotu> linux-ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[07:00] <scurry7> NoelJB: just reporting back (I figured it out).  here is the link to the doc that gave me the answer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual I had to disable the modules nv and nvidia_new (aparently they overiding my manual installs from nvidia script).   Thanks for all help!
[07:01] <Kniggit> I've got a question about restricted drivers
[07:01] <Kniggit> I tried to install the restricted drivers for my nVidia geforce 4
[07:01] <tarelerul2> I am running a 32 bit Ubuntu and I was wondering could I use 64 bit kernel on it ?  can that be done
[07:02] <scurry7> hello Kniggit: what was the outcome?
[07:02] <Kniggit> and I got the message that "The software source for the package 'nvidia-glx' is not enabled.  sorry for the drawn out question
[07:02] <Kniggit> whereas 2 hours ago I had xubuntu on this same system with no issue in this regard
[07:02] <malnilion> Kniggit, that means you need to enable the Universe repository in Synaptic I think
[07:03] <TigranG> How do I check for mouse inputs? There was a command, I forgot it
[07:03] <Kniggit> malnilion: I appreciate the advice
[07:03] <scurry7> Kniggit: check this out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:04] <scurry7> Kniggit: sorry this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:05] <CyberMad> what is the best tool to do auto backup of user documents?
[07:06] <Flannel> !backup
[07:06] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[07:06] <malnilion> ubotu has so many scripted responses...it's wonderful :)
[07:07] <kirk> !smoke weed
[07:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smoke weed - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:07] <malnilion> And humble as it just responded: "Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)"
[07:07] <Kniggit> you guys rock!  thanks, it appears to have worked.
[07:07] <genii> And polite
[07:07] <genii> !hello
[07:07] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:07] <malnilion> Kniggit, you're welcome :)
[07:08] <Kniggit> for some reason all my software sources were disabled
[07:08] <malnilion> That's never good, lol
[07:08] <Verithrax> What's AMD64 support like nowadays?
[07:08] <Verithrax> Is Flash still an issue?
[07:08] <TigranG> Mouse, check, please? lol
[07:09] <Verithrax> The threads I can find easily on the forums are about a year old, so I don't know if things have improved.
[07:09] <TigranG> There was a program that checked key and mouse inputs and told you how its mapped. Know what I'm talking about?
[07:09] <wsguede> hello
[07:10] <Flannel> Verithrax: things have inproved.  However, flash (for everyone) is broken right now.
[07:10] <vontux> how can I reinstall the grub?
[07:10] <Flannel> !grub | vontux
[07:10] <ubotu> vontux: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:10] <Flannel> vontux: first link
[07:10] <wsguede> does anyone know if you can upgrade from xubuntu to normal ubuntu after the install of xubuntu
[07:10] <Verithrax> Flash is broken?
[07:10] <amitprakash> hi.. can someone help me compile tiny OS 1.1
[07:10] <malnilion> wsguede, yes
[07:10] <Verithrax> On the production version of the distro? Since when?
[07:10] <CajunTechie> Hello everyone. How can I make an external USB hard disk rw instead of ro? I've tried the mount -o user,rw,exec,umask=000 /mnt/sda5 and it doesnt' unlock it.
[07:10] <wsguede> malnilion: thanks
[07:10] <charlz> hello all.. how can i enable disable an NIC? i have 2 NIC.
[07:11] <ixian_> flash works fine for me
[07:11] <malnilion> wsguede, just install the xubuntu-desktop package
[07:11] <charlz> using command line
[07:11] <amitprakash> charlz, ifconfig nickname up to enable ifconfig nickname down to disable
[07:11] <Flannel> Verithrax: Adobe changed the file.  Flash (when installed) downloads the tar file from adobe's site.
[07:11] <Kniggit> charlz: I would either physically remove it (in the case of a PCI card) or disable it in BIOS.
[07:11] <malnilion> wsguede, or the regular ubuntu desktop rather, lol
[07:11] <wsguede> malnilion: I have a pent 4 (2.7 ghz) 256 mb computer
[07:11] <Verithrax> Flannel: What a brilliant idea, that.
[07:11] <wsguede> malnilion: so the install of ubuntu is rather slow
[07:11] <charlz> ok ill try thanx..
[07:12] <wsguede> malnilion: what does ubuntu normally use.. mem wise
[07:12] <Flannel> Verithrax: Blame Adobe.  (Or, look at it as one more benefit of OSS, not having to wait for things to be fixed)
[07:12] <wsguede> malnilion: or do you think I should just stick with xubuntu
[07:13] <Verithrax> Flannel: Yep. I suppose copyright issues keep the real repos from mirroring the Flash stuff.
[07:13] <malnilion> wsguede, I wish I could tell you how much memory it uses, but your computer *should* run ubuntu alright
[07:13] <charlz> yeah it works.. thnx ppl
[07:13] <Verithrax> But was Flash working for 64-bit users before Adobe decided to be cute?
[07:14] <wsguede> malnilion: maybe I will stick with xubuntu for a little while, and then try ubuntu later if need be
[07:14] <Flynsarmy> Is there a bug with ubuntu where opening large text files causes 100% CPU and never finishes loading?
[07:14] <malnilion> wsguede, you're not missing out on too horribly much by sticking with xubuntu in my opinion
[07:14] <Flynsarmy> I have a 2.9meg mysqldump file that i tried to open in both 'text editor' and open office writer and it's just been sitting on 100% cpu usage for the past 5 mins or so (still not open)
[07:15] <wsguede> malnilion: good to know
[07:15] <charlz> hello again how to manually configure network cards in the command line
[07:15] <malnilion> wsguede, I mean xfce is like stripped down gnome that runs quicker and uses less resources, but might not have all the flashy features that gnome does
[07:16] <malnilion> charlz, that would depend on what exactly you want to do
[07:17] <wsguede> malnilion: that's fine with me I guess... I am new to linux all together... so I won't be missing anything at all in the beginning... and I am putting this on the shittiest computer I have... so if I like it enough... maybe I will have it on the best one in no time
[07:17] <malnilion> wsguede, hope you like it :)
[07:17] <charlz> malnilion << i want to manually set a dynamic or static ip.
[07:17] <bazhang> language wsguede
[07:17] <wsguede> malnilion: you and me both buddy, I have spent so many cds to get this thing to work its not funny
[07:17] <wsguede> bazhang: english
[07:18] <wsguede> ?
[07:18] <wsguede> oh
[07:18] <wsguede> I get what ur saying
[07:18] <wsguede> haha
[07:18] <bazhang> yah
[07:18] <wsguede> sorry about the poopy word
[07:19] <malnilion> charlz, read "man ifconfig"
[07:19] <malnilion> That might have what you need
[07:19] <tarelerul2>  I installed 32  ubuntu and dual core  ,but  when I put kernel x86_64  I come up with this This package contains the Linux kernel image for version 2.6.22 on
[07:19] <charlz> malnilion: ok thanx.
[07:19] <tarelerul2> x86/x86_64 ? dose the mean I have that kernel on here some where
[07:19] <kirk> charlz dyndns
[07:19] <kirk> or read dns and bind the book
[07:20] <charlz> ok thanx all for the help..
[07:21] <malnilion> kirk, that seems like a bit of a read just to get dynamic or static ip address working :P
[07:22] <charlz> its ok malnilion, i'll just try to read it, even if it too long.. :)
[07:22] <wsguede> would you say that xubuntu is the best unbuntu version to run on a slow/older computer?
[07:22] <malnilion> Well...best "official" ubuntu version
[07:22] <neantror> slackware
[07:22] <malnilion> There's also fluxbuntu
[07:22] <kirk> dsl
[07:23] <wsguede> what's good about that version?
[07:23] <wsguede> vs x
[07:23] <mosno> damnit, hard deps suck
[07:23] <mosno> you'd think i'd be able to remove cups without much grief
[07:23] <bazhang> slackware is official ubuntu? :}
[07:24] <Beelze> wsguede, xubuntu is very small and clean but has a gnome touch
[07:24] <kirk> absolutely not
[07:24] <kirk> gentoo is however debian
[07:24] <neantror> yes
[07:24] <Beelze> i like the gnome touch....very easy to configure
[07:24] <malnilion> It uses fluxbox which is even lighter on resources...I'm not sure you'd want to jump straight into fluxbox, but you might take it for a test drive in your xubuntu install
[07:25] <wsguede> hmm
[07:25] <root__> hey all, how do i make a windows mount writeable?
[07:25] <root__> whats the params i need in my fstab?
[07:25] <Beelze> say something about your hardware wsguede
[07:25] <charlz> hello all.. is there any best guide out there to setup an ip routing?
[07:25] <wsguede> beelze what do you mean?
[07:25] <Beelze> your prozessor and your ram
[07:26] <wsguede> Beelze: as in my 2.7 ghz pent 4, 256 mb mem
[07:26] <malnilion> p4 256mb
[07:26] <wsguede> yeah
[07:26] <wsguede> that
[07:26] <ta1> I just installed 2gb additional ram on my machine bringing it up to 4gb... on the main page hardware shows only 3.2gb of memory.. what gives?
[07:26] <Beelze> i would use xubuntu on that...
[07:26] <wsguede> do you have the 64 bit version?
[07:26] <wsguede> that's what I thought
[07:26] <robc4> what does the terminal command free say
[07:26] <ixian_> ta1: 32-bit operating system can't use the full 4 gigs
[07:26] <Beelze> but thats not really a slow computer :-)
[07:27] <wsguede> not really slow... but the mem is killing me!
[07:27] <ta1> how can I tell if I am running 32bit version?  I thought I installed the 64bit but I may be mistaken
[07:27] <grep100> 32bit normal kernels can not use all of the 4 gig memory space, but a special version of the kernel called the PAE version can use up to 64 gigs of mem in a 32 bit kernel
[07:27] <wsguede> its my dads old computer... and I begged him for it so that I can try linux out with out having to use dual boot (i tend to always boot into windows then)
[07:28] <Beelze> full xubuntu desktop uses about 60 mb ram with irc/aim
[07:28] <reenignEesreveR> can't i beg adduser command not to ask me Full Name, Room Number etc?
[07:28] <ta1> how do I check for 64bit version?  it seems like I have tried to install several x86 versions and it always made me get the 64bit
[07:28] <malnilion> reenignEesreveR, you can just hit enter through that stuff and give them blank values
[07:28] <wsguede> ok so for some reason xubuntu live does NOT work
[07:29] <grep100> uname -r
[07:29] <wsguede> I have burned like 4 cds
[07:29] <wsguede> 6.06 7.04 7.10
[07:29] <wsguede> and another 7.1
[07:29] <malnilion> wsguede, what doesn't work on it?
[07:30] <Beelze> don´t use 52x write speed if you have that
[07:30] <Beelze> use a slower mode
[07:30] <wsguede> after it goes to the screen that asked me to
[07:30] <wsguede> install/try
[07:30] <wsguede> intstall oem (manufactures)
[07:30] <wsguede> check cd
[07:30] <wsguede> ...
[07:30] <wsguede> I choose install and it goes blank
[07:30] <FloodBot1> wsguede: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:31] <ta1> 2.6.22-14-generic so I assume that is 32bit?
[07:31] <wsguede> I choose install and it goes blank
[07:31] <Onyx> Is there a way I can change the KDE icon theme from within Gnome?
[07:31] <Beelze> wsguede, try to use the acpi=off switch @starup
[07:31] <ixian_> ta1: try uname -a
[07:31] <wsguede> >?
[07:31] <malnilion> Onyx, run kcontrol would be what I'd do
[07:31] <grep100> I would think, yes, 64 bit versions tend to attach 64 to the end of the kernel name, and PAE versions do the same for PAE
[07:31] <oldude67> has anyone used the test kernel 2.6.24-rc7 yet?
[07:32] <ta1> 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 05:28:27 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:32] <Beelze> you can edit the bootup line...after the word splash use acpi=off....maybe it works
[07:32] <Beelze> ok...my laptop goes blank and than i rebootet without that switch
[07:33] <charlz> does anyone knows where can i find a guide for routing??
[07:33] <Flannel> ta1, grep100: -generic is either 32 or 64 bit.  The kernel name itself won't indicate
[07:33] <grep100> uname -r 2.6.23.9-85.fc8PAE
[07:33] <malnilion> Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I think charlz will be wanting to get his hands dirty with iptables
[07:34] <Flannel> wsguede: that's the alternate CD, not the live CD (I believe, unless xubuntu has combined them)
[07:34] <ixian_> x86_64?
[07:34] <oldude67> Linux chris 2.6.24-rc7-smp
[07:34] <QDawg> does anyone have the mail plugin for jpilot?
[07:34] <oldude67> but that is in my virtual slack distro
[07:34] <firebird619> Could someone help me? I just installed Conky using a guide I found on the Internet. It included a .conkyrc file to use, which I did, and now conky covers the top gnome panel and it is also on top of all other windows. How can I fix this?
[07:35] <reenignEesreveR> malnilion: I am trying to use adduser to create around 100's of users. I just want to run a file which will create all the users. dun wanna hit 4 enters for every user :(
[07:35] <malnilion> charlz, actually ignore that, you probably don't want iptables, I'm not sure about routing guides though
[07:35] <ta1> So any other ideas?
[07:35] <malnilion> reenignEesreveR, ah, I see
[07:35] <wsguede> no I mean when I enter the screen that says install/try ... start in low grafix ... check cd... I hit install and it goes blank... I am using the live cd
[07:35] <charlz> manilion << where can i find a good guide for iptables?
[07:36] <root__> bye
[07:36] <wsguede> and I wrote the cd at 24x
[07:36] <Flannel> reenignEesreveR: use useradd
[07:36] <tuntun> Hi. Does the firefox 'find' function allow wildcards and/or multiple disperate searches?
[07:36] <charlz> wsguede << when you want to burn distros, just select a speed of 8x only to be safe always.
[07:37] <wsguede> I don't have that choice... it gives me 24x and max...
[07:37] <wsguede> which I believe is 24x
[07:37] <Flannel> wsguede: When you check the CD, does it verify properly?
[07:37] <malnilion> charlz, I really don't know anything about complex networking in linux, I'm afraid
[07:37] <Creed> Question, does the graphical subsystem run on tty1?
[07:37] <wsguede> yep... all is well
[07:37] <Flannel> Creed: 7
[07:37] <robc4> tty7
[07:37] <charlz> wsgued << what type of cdr did you use?
[07:37] <wsguede> -
[07:37] <Creed> Flannel, why is 1 not recomended for general use?
[07:37] <wsguede> sony
[07:38] <Flannel> Creed: Where did you see that 1 wasn't recommended for general use?
[07:38] <Creed> Flannel / robc4 doing a assignment and cant figure it out...
[07:38] <Creed> Flannel, in all the labs we use tty2
[07:38] <robc4> creed, have you hit alt f1 and see if there was something running on tty1?
[07:39] <Creed> robc4, startup info is on tty1 for me.
[07:39] <Flannel> wsguede: If the CD verifies, then its a good CD.  And burning isn't your issue
[07:39] <narg> Does anyone here have gnome-hearts installed? Fresh off the repos, I run it and an assertion segfaults it.
[07:39] <robc4> yea, tty1 is normally what you use for a console
[07:39] <Creed> Old teletype machines couldn't operate as teh first console, so Linux honors the same restriction.
[07:39] <wsguede> flannel: then what shall I do?
[07:39] <robc4> there are 6 stty sessions that load for a standard linux system
[07:39] <Creed> That is the answer that makes most sense to me.
[07:39] <wsguede> I want to get linux up an running like his year
[07:40] <wsguede> this*
[07:40] <Flannel> wsguede: Just do a regular install, not via the liveCD
[07:40] <robc4> so when you load an X system (gnome, kde, etc etc) it uses tty7
[07:40] <wsguede> so the alternate cd?
[07:40] <Flannel> wsguede: yeah.
[07:41] <malnilion> You've tried installing in safe graphics mode?
[07:41] <Creed> robc4 / Flannel http://pastebin.ca/850538 This is the question...none of the answers make sense to me.
[07:41] <wsguede> Flannel: I tried the alternate cd for 7.10 and it installs all the way then it freezes at "gathering install information" or sumthing like that
[07:41] <oldude67> is anyone running a test kernel?
[07:41] <robc4> all of those are wrong minus the one about terminals
[07:42] <wsguede> malnilion: yeah and it crashed
[07:42] <Flannel> wsguede: *that* might be a burn issue.  did you verify that disk?
[07:42] <wsguede> yes
[07:42] <robc4> at least as far as my experiences have gone
[07:42] <wsguede> Flannel: ok but hold on
[07:42] <spee> you + your mom
[07:42] <Creed> robc4, lol so none of those is the correct answer?
[07:42] <robc4> 3 is
[07:42] <charlz> is anyone here knows how to run a visual foxpro program using wine?
[07:42] <robc4> 1 is wrong
[07:42] <robc4> 2 is wrong, it uses tty7
[07:43] <robc4> 4 is def. wrong
[07:43] <wsguede> Flannel: I hard booted it hoping that it would be ok... since it already made me take out the cd... the first time I had problems... then this last time it boots... but then after it "tries?" to boot into xubuntu, the screen goes blank
[07:43] <earlmred> mmm, got all 3 monitors and both video cards working finally :)
[07:43] <robc4> charlz, there is a problem running .net applications on wine, go check out winehq for more info
[07:43] <earlmred> sweet setup, no? http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1000636ey7.jpg
[07:43] <Creed> robc4, thats what I thought.
[07:43] <charlz> robc4 << ok thanx..
[07:44] <Flannel> wsguede: Screen going blank is probably a display issue.  You should be able to get to a terminal via ctrl-alt-f1, try reconfiguring xorg, see if it takes
[07:44] <robc4> creed, is sounds like your IT guys are stuck 10 years ago
[07:44] <robc4> creed, and are too proud to now lose the now useless info
[07:44] <wsguede> Flannel: ok so I booted it into "recovery mode"
[07:45] <wsguede> Flannel: now I get a cmd line
[07:45] <Creed> robc4, yeah :-/ Stupid ass instructor...wont even let us use Fedora 8 even though its perfectly fine...making us use FC6.
[07:45] <Flannel> wsguede: wait, recovery mode?  This is booting off the harddrive?
[07:45] <robc4> yea
[07:45] <wsguede> yeah
[07:45] <wsguede> Flannel: I tried reinstalling it after it wouldn't show up
[07:45] <vwfanatic> Is there any programs for *Nix that are comparable to Quicken or Ms Money, in that they will update online?
[07:45] <wsguede> Flannel: but talking to you know I booted off the hdd
[07:46] <robc4> creed, I got that alot back at college when my CIS instructors would use obsolete software
[07:47] <Flannel> wsguede: If you booted off the harddrive into the recovery console, you're already installed.
[07:47] <wsguede> Flannel: I know
[07:47] <wsguede> Flannel: BUT if I don't boot into recovery, the screen goes blank
[07:48] <robc4> what video card do you have
[07:48] <wsguede> me?
[07:49] <wsguede> robc4: POS mother board one
[07:49] <robc4> wsguede, what mobo is it
[07:49] <robc4> it might be a video problem(?)
[07:49] <wsguede> I have no clue what a mobo is
[07:49] <robc4> motherboard
[07:50] <wsguede> oh
[07:50] <wsguede> haha
[07:50] <wsguede> old one?
[07:50] <wsguede> haha
[07:50] <Flannel> wsguede: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and then after that, init 2
[07:50] <wsguede> Flannel: where? in the cmd of the recovery mode?
[07:50] <Flannel> wsguede: yes
[07:51] <Flannel> wsguede: Basically what's happening is your GUI isn't displaying properly (so its just black)
[07:51] <linux_user400354> how can i get these codecs without buying? http://chris1.hopto.org/~chris/Screenshot-Codec%20Installer.png
[07:51] <earlmred> hmm
[07:51] <earlmred> is there support for amd's cool and quiet?
[07:51] <wsguede> Flannel: yeS
[07:51] <spee> http://www.jaenicke.org/suicide.html
[07:51] <linux_user400354> hey roky, you in san antonio too?
[07:52] <roky> linux, and how might you know this?
[07:52] <Flannel> !offtopic | spee
[07:52] <ubotu> spee: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:53] <zetheroo> has anyone successfully used the effects in KDE4 with the fglrx drivers?
[07:53] <robc4> linux, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[07:53] <robc4> roky, you can see people's ip's as they join
[07:54] <roky> I haver a question for some, I have my graphics drivers installed correctly ( as what it seems ) , runs seemlessly with compiz and all but as soon as I launch a game, My system lags incredibly bad. I never had this problem before and I dont know what it is any recomandations?
[07:55] <roky> robc4, I know this, but to  know where I'm from is a little differant xD
[07:55]  * barurot69 ssssssshhhhhhhhhh
[07:55] <robc4> roky, yea, it said stx.res.rr.com, so I guess he knows his also has that suffix :)
[07:55]  * barurot69 ssssssshhhhhhhhhh
[07:55]  * barurot69 ssssssshhhhhhhhhh
[07:56]  * barurot69 ssssssshhhhhhhhhh
[07:56] <davef_> Anyone know if its possible to open a GUI window on a local computer (i.e. firefox), and then go to a remote computer and SSH (with X11-forwarding) back to the local computer, and view the firefox window that is already open?
[07:57] <bazhang> barurot69: please stop
[07:58] <roky> I haver a question for some, I have my graphics drivers installed correctly ( as what it seems ) , runs seemlessly with compiz and all but as soon as I launch a game, My system lags incredibly bad. I never had this problem before and I dont know what it is any recomandations?
[07:59] <stdin> daedrik: no it's not, you'll need VNC for that
[08:01] <DrMitch> I installed ubuntu, and then installed xfce. Now nm-applet still loaded while i'm in xfce. How do i stop nm-applet from loading?
[08:01] <marshall__> how do i install flash player?
[08:01] <msdtux> help me please... is there any easiest method for installing moinmoin, I using feisty
[08:01] <earlmred> anybody know why reiserfs on ubuntu always replays the journal on every boot?
[08:01] <Flynsarmy> marshall__ It's currently broken. See the link in the channel title
[08:01] <wsguede> Flannel: yeah no that didn't work
[08:02] <crdlb> DrMitch: run xfce4-autostart-editor
[08:02] <DrMitch> thanks
[08:02] <wsguede> it brought me through so many screens and stuff... half of them were for the mouse and keyboard... flannel
[08:02] <msdtux> I´m following this old thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=206853 but when I would like to try moin, it shows nothing (blank)
[08:03] <robc4> msdtux, moin wiki is part of the ubuntu server guide now
[08:03] <robc4> and the instructions work perfectly
[08:03] <robc4> I just installed mine last night
[08:03] <wsguede> Flannel: no wait, it did work, but I had to hit ctrl alt f1 for it to do it
[08:04] <marshall__> i did /msg obotu flash and nothing happened
[08:04] <stdin> marshall__: ubotu not obotu
[08:04] <msdtux> robc4, which version of ubuntu do you use... I´m using feisty server...
[08:04] <marshall__> stdin: lol -_-"
[08:04] <robc4> msdfux, I did it on both dapper and edgy
[08:05] <robc4> msdtux, both server versions
[08:05] <msdtux> I wonder, what am I doing wrong ?
[08:05] <robc4> msdtux, anyways, what are you doing using feisty server? one bad upgrade and woops :)
[08:06] <robc4> msdtux, the dependancies might not be complete yet
[08:06] <robc4> msdtux, I am also betting you dont have a database setup right
[08:06] <robc4> wait, sorry
[08:06] <msdtux> Do I have to set the database first ?
[08:06] <robc4> hardy is 8.04
[08:06] <robc4> feisty is 7.04
[08:06] <robc4> woops
[08:07] <robc4> msd, yea, you do
[08:07] <sven_> well done :) after upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10 i have no boot stop anymore :D (before switching to newer i had 20 seconds boot stops at boot splash screen after nearly 30%)
[08:07] <robc4> msdtux, http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/moinmoin.html
[08:08] <msdtux> rob, I have install feisty server, and install LAMP also... do I have to setup database ?
[08:08] <robc4> msdtux, you might
[08:08] <robc4> msdtux, I know media wiki will do that as part of the setup IIRC
[08:08] <robc4> do you have your heart set on media wiki?
[08:09] <msdtux> robc4, sorry I don´t understand...
[08:10] <robc4> msdtux, sorry, I meant do you have your heart on using moin for a wiki?
[08:12] <msdtux> sorry for my bad english... I don´t understant what you mean with ¨have your heart¨...
[08:13] <sven_> msdtux use a dictionary :)
[08:13] <wsguede> msdtux: that means like... are you open to use something else
[08:13] <robc4> msdtux, I mean is there any reason why you want to use moin was your wiki software? Because installing mediawiki as your wiki software is much easier in my opinion
[08:13] <ajitam> hi how can I put output from cmd uptime in a var in shell
[08:13] <roky> can anyone help me figure out some graphical lag issues im having while running any game in ubuntu? gutsy....nvidia 7950 gt
[08:13] <msdtux> Oh i see
[08:13] <robc4> msdtux, especially when you follow the instructions that are on the ubuntu server guide
[08:13] <ajitam> for example x = uptime (but this doesn work)
[08:13] <earlmred> ajitam: x = `uptime`
[08:14] <wsguede> haha
[08:14] <robc4> msdtux, sorry, I forgot this is international
[08:14] <j2daosh> hey
[08:15] <msdtux> mediawiki is easier, yes... but looks like moin is more simpler (not in installation)...
[08:15] <j2daosh> how do i make my windows mount writeable?
[08:15] <ajitam> earlmred: this puts string 'uptime' in var
[08:15] <Ironman1> hey yall, can one of yall send me a repository list with a lot of extra sources added
[08:15] <zenobius> hiya someone remind me the syntax for appneding text to an enviroment variable? is it : echo /usr/local/arm-elf/bin >> $PATH
[08:15] <earlmred> ajitam: what shell are you using
[08:15] <j2daosh> i cant seem to get changes to windows files written in VIM
[08:15] <msdtux> Well maybe I should install it from clean system...
[08:15] <Roscar> hey. I have ubuntu installed right now and I'm going to create a partition and install windows on it. I know that windows will destroy my boot record and I'll have to rebuild it to boot ubuntu, I'm just wondering how to do that.
[08:15] <zetheroo> can I use Sound Recorder to record streaming audio?
[08:16] <earlmred> ajitam: if i type x=`uptime` into a bash prompt, and then echo $x, i get the results of uptime.
[08:16] <zenobius> zetheroo: try streamripper
[08:16] <earlmred> ajitam: so if you're writing a bash script, that's what you'll get.
[08:16] <Ironman1> anyone have a repository list with a lot of added sources ?
[08:16] <zetheroo> zenobius: is that in the repos?
[08:16] <zenobius> zetheroo: yup
[08:16] <zenobius> zetheroo: might be universe so make sure you have those in
[08:16] <ouellettesr> hello, im trying to copy a directory using "cp source destination" then it says cp: omitting directory.
[08:17] <zetheroo> zenobius: is it easy to use?
[08:17] <ouellettesr> any idea what im doing wrong?
[08:17] <mavi-> ouellettesr: cp -r for directories
[08:17] <mavi-> -r = recursive
[08:17] <ouellettesr> thanks
[08:17] <ouellettesr> ahh
[08:17] <zenobius> zetheroo: its a cli, i use it to ripp shoutcast into a folder of indivdual files, auto named by their id3 tags that get stream alongside music...
[08:17] <ouellettesr> that works
[08:17] <msdtux> robc, from the link you gave me, it is the same with forum I´ve referred... they doesn´t mention that we have to set any database first.
[08:18] <verb3k> zetheroo, you can also use mplayer, google it
[08:18] <zenobius> zetheroo: basically  : streamripper htpp://radio.internode.on.net:8037 -r
[08:18] <zetheroo> zenobius: command line?
[08:18] <zetheroo> zenobius: oh
[08:18] <kirk> http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=1712&file=filename.pls
[08:18] <zenobius> zetheroo: yep, mplayer wont name the files and wont split them fo you
[08:18] <kirk> philsomatika is so rediculously awesome
[08:18] <robc4> msdtux, yea, I was mistaken, thats part of the mediawiki setup
[08:18] <Ironman1> are you trying to rip streams?
[08:19] <kirk> i listen to it while i fly around in my spaceship
[08:19] <kirk> when im at the helm.
[08:19] <msdtux> Ok, then... I´ll try it later again with clean install...
[08:19] <zenobius> someone remind me the syntax for appneding text to an enviroment variable? is it : echo /usr/local/arm-elf/bin >> $PATH
[08:19] <msdtux> thanks for helping me...
[08:19] <Ironman1> use apt-get thing to get a program called streamtuner
[08:19] <roky> can anyone help me figure out some graphical lag issues im having while running any game in ubuntu? gutsy....nvidia 7950 gt
[08:20] <kirk> zenobius: do like, $a= $astring
[08:20] <zenobius> streamtuner is good, but wont let you create restream server like you can with e '-r' param
[08:20] <kirk> zenobius: do like, $a= "$a"string
[08:20] <zenobius> kirk: cheers mon
[08:20] <kirk> see what i mean
[08:20] <kirk> ?
[08:20] <verb3k> zenobius, can streamripper rip all kinds of streams?
[08:20]  * kirk ticks one onto his unixhelper ticker.
[08:20] <kirk> like 40'000 to go and ill be an op
[08:20] <ajitam> earlmred: hmm I type this i ubuntu and I get string uptime
[08:20] <roky> can anyone help me figure out some graphical lag issues im having while running any game in ubuntu? gutsy....nvidia 7950 gt, My graphics driver's are installed and thats whats confusing me.
[08:20] <earlmred> ajitam: what shell are you using.
[08:21] <kirk> the ones that come with ubuntu roky?
[08:21] <kirk> the "proprietary ones"
[08:21] <oldude67> ok how do i reset the sound in ubuntu it doesnt have alsaconf
[08:21] <ajitam> earlmred: I'm connected to ubuntu via ssh on my mac (you mean this ? sorry I'm new at this)
[08:21] <roky> kirk, yeah, It installed under synaptic, everything works great with compiz and the works, but as soon as I get in game I lag like hell, and I never did before
[08:22] <robc4> sorry msdtux
[08:22] <earlmred> ajitam: type bash
[08:22] <zenobius> verb3k: noit sure, but i wouldnt bet it could rip realplayer streams. nothing but locked down virtuous virgins can touch those, and only if you been through big bro DNA check...(jokes)
[08:22] <zetheroo> zenobius:  is there no simple gui styled app for this?
[08:22] <zenobius> zetheroo: streamtuner
[08:22] <zetheroo> zenobius: ok
[08:23] <verb3k> zenobius, I remember I ripped a realstream with mplayer in the past
[08:24] <zenobius> verb3k: i could care about this much for real player and its variants ....nil
[08:24] <verb3k> roky, You can disable compiz if you want
[08:24] <bullgard4> uptime reports "5 user" although I have been the only user on my computer. Who are the other 4? Gnome terminals, or what?
[08:24] <verb3k> zenobius, :)
[08:24] <zenobius> kirk, doesnt work
[08:25] <verb3k> bullgard4, use the command "w" to know them
[08:25] <roky> verb3k, its not compiz, I've never had this issue before, I ran all the games with no issues but now when i enter in game, I can hardly move around the menu's
[08:25] <zenobius> $PATH=$PATH";/usr/local/arm-elf/bin"
[08:26] <verb3k> roky, you can use a tty with a "top" command to see what's making the CPU 100%
[08:26] <verb3k> roky, while you're in the game I mean
[08:26] <AdemoS> Ubuntu 7.10 64 Bit So, I installed LMMS 64 it from Synaptic, and after checking Synpatic again, it was installed normally......The issue, I can't FIND it. unlike everything else I installed, it didn't show up in my Main Menus, not in the Sound/Video section, not anywhere...any ideas?
[08:26] <bullgard4> verb3k: w shows 5 times a user named 'detlef'
[08:26] <_moro_bana_> how do i join the python channel, it says i need to be identofied to join
[08:26] <ObeyRoy> What command can I use to make the terminal show me what ethernet card I'm using?
[08:26] <verb3k> bullgard4, is that you?
[08:26] <ajitam> earlmred: on my mac I et bash-3.2$
[08:26] <bullgard4> verb3k: yes
[08:27] <verb3k> bullgard4, I think it's about the terminals you open
[08:27] <zenobius> ObeyRoy: ifconfig will show you settings, but you can use all availble cards at same time. not sure such a command exist except for examining output of something simple like htop and noticing which device traffic is leavin/coming on
[08:27] <verb3k> bullgard4, the GUI is considered 1 and the terminal is 2
[08:27] <dgjones> bullgard4, one user will be your gnome, one will be the terminal you're running the commands in, do you have other terminals open as well
[08:27] <zetheroo> zenobius: I get this error when I try to listen to a stream: Failed to execute child process "xmms" (no such file or directory).
[08:28] <zenobius> zetheroo: what command a re you running to recieve such an error?
[08:28] <Viking667> good evening all,. ..... wow. What a lot of nicks!!!
[08:28] <zetheroo> zenobius: no command... I am using streamtuner
[08:29] <verb3k> zenobius, he may be pasting the link without quotation ""
[08:29] <zenobius> there is a page on the forums and wiki that helps you set up preferences to enable proper usage of desired mediaplayer from stream tuner
[08:29] <zetheroo> zenobius: do I need xmms
[08:29] <zetheroo> ?
[08:29] <roky> verb3k, sorry was afk for a sec, but the cpu isnt topping
[08:29] <AdemoS> Ubuntu 7.10 64 Bit So, I installed LMMS 64 bit from Synaptic, and after checking Synpatic again, it was installed normally......The issue, I can't FIND it. unlike everything else I installed, it didn't show up in my Main Menus, not in the Sound/Video section, not anywhere...any ideas?
[08:29] <roky> I just looked
[08:29] <j2daosh> anyone here know how to make a network samba share writable? i tried setting my fstab to umask=0000 and umask=0002 but still nothing
[08:29] <roky> verb3k I just lag, and I cant seem to figure out why
[08:29] <verb3k> zetheroo, use quotes around the link ""
[08:29] <zenobius> zetheroo: you will need to setup the command that streamtuner uses for your paticular player so it passes the song path on properly. is why i ust use the terminal and point "listen media player " there
[08:29] <Viking667> I'm trying to do remote X logins to a Gutsy machine, it only sometimes works. If I use Metacity, it's all fine, but if I try using compiz or xfce4, the remote login just crashes back to the remote chooser.
[08:30] <ObeyRoy> zenobius: I'm just trying to figure out my card model, I need to find a driver for it for windows.
[08:30] <bullgard4> dgjones: I have open 4 terminals. w shows 5 times the USER 'detlef'. w shows the TTYs 'tty10', pts/0, pts/1, pts/2, pts/3.
[08:30] <kirk> make the samba have write privileges
[08:30] <verb3k> roky, I hope I can help
[08:30] <oldude67> how do you restart the sound ?
[08:30] <IndyGunFreak> AdemoS: can you start it from the terminal?
[08:30] <Viking667> frankly I'm not sure what to investigate first.
[08:30] <oldude67> for some reason it stopped working
[08:30] <dgjones> bullgard4, that'd be right then, one user per terminal plus your gdm would make 5
[08:30] <roky> verb3k me too, because I have no clue as to why Im lagging
[08:30] <zenobius> ObeyRoy: sudo lspci will list your devices, sudo ifconfig will list your netowrk card config, and dmesg will help you identify system events when they heppen
[08:30] <j2daosh> kirk, and how do i do that?
[08:30] <AdemoS> IndyGunFreak, I'm not sure how I would
[08:30] <verb3k> roky, all games?
[08:30] <j2daosh> on the windows box, the share is writable to everyone
[08:31] <IndyGunFreak> AdemoS: open a terminal and type "lmms" no quotes
[08:31] <zenobius> ObeyRoy: help.ubuntu.com/community
[08:31] <zenobius> ObeyRoy: start there
[08:31] <IndyGunFreak> if it starts, then all yuo have to do is manually add it to th emenu
[08:31] <zetheroo> zenobius: well I installed xmms and its automatically opening the player to play... but nothing happens
[08:31] <AdemoS> IndyGunFreak, ah alright
[08:31] <roky> verb3k yep any game I play
[08:31] <Viking667> zetheroo: is the file turning up in the playlist of xmms?
[08:32] <zenobius> zetheroo: have you check the preferneces of streamtuner? have you gone to ubuntu forums to investigate the proper usage of the parameters required to pass to xmms?
[08:32] <AdemoS> IndyGunFreak,  well it gave me a couple input device issues, but it ran fine and presented me with a wizard
[08:32] <verb3k> roky, strange
[08:32] <zetheroo> Viking667: yes... I can see it listed in the xmms player... but nothing plays
[08:32] <roky> verb3k very, lol
[08:32] <IndyGunFreak> AdemoS: ok.., so test it out, see if its going to work, and if it does what you want, just create an entry for it in your menu system.
[08:33] <Viking667> zetheroo: hm. checked output plugins?
[08:33] <j2daosh> how do i do that kirk?
[08:33] <zetheroo> zenobius: it was setup with xmms when I installed it....
[08:33] <fl1p> When trying to install Ubuntu 7.10 on an Dell Dimension the Keyboard in grub is not found (USB, there is no PS2) When using the LiveCD the Video resolution cant be determined so what to do ?
[08:33] <verb3k> roky, try googling your card + ubuntu
[08:33] <ObeyRoy> zenobius:  Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8038 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller (rev 14) Does that sound like the name of an ethernet card?
[08:33] <Viking667> yuh
[08:33] <verb3k> roky, + gutsy + compiz :)
[08:33] <Josiah> does anybody know if I were to install Hardy Heron Alpha 3, would I be able to upgrade all releases from that or do I have to re-install with new image every time there is a new release?
[08:33] <roky> verb3k, I have already I have never had issues like that before
[08:33] <zetheroo> Viking667: this is the link I am using: http://www.triplem.com.au/media/livestream/2mmmlivestream.asx
[08:33] <Viking667> ObeyRoy: that's a network card all right.
[08:34] <IndyGunFreak> ObeyRoy: thats a pretty new ethernet card, thats probably your issue.. the kernel probably doesn't have the driver for it.
[08:34] <j2daosh> kirk
[08:34] <kirk> wha
[08:35] <j2daosh> how do i make my samba share "writeable"?
[08:35] <Viking667> zetheroo: well, mplayer certainly plays it.
[08:35] <Josiah> I ask because I am unable to install Fiesty because of the kernel version
[08:35] <kirk> where is your samba share mounted at?
[08:35] <Viking667> mplayer's using ffmpeg to play the stream with... if that's any help.
[08:35] <zenobius> zetheroo: goto http://streamripper.sourceforge.net/tutorialplugin.php
[08:35] <ObeyRoy> IndyGunFreak: Linux has a driver for it, it's windows I need the driver for
[08:35] <atlantide> the driver, which is adapted for Dell 3000cn for cups in Debian, is HP Color LaserJet 5500 Footmatic/pxlmono
[08:35] <j2daosh> /media/net_backup
[08:36] <IndyGunFreak> ObeyRoy: oh..lol
[08:36] <zenobius> zetheroo: winamp plugin
[08:36] <j2daosh> and it has a 777 chmod
[08:36] <ObeyRoy> Figures
[08:36] <Flannel> Josiah: yes, alpha software updates seemlessly.  Like day-to-day updates.  Have you tried Gutsy thoug?
[08:36] <kirk> whats its devnode
[08:36] <zenobius> zetheroo: try audacious instead of xmms, may find it bit more to your liking?
[08:36] <j2daosh> not sure, how do i find out
[08:36] <kirk> i mean
[08:36] <kirk> its in your computer
[08:36] <kirk> and your running a samba server from linux
[08:36] <zenobius> zetheroo: also higly recomend you get over fear of terminal and use streamripper directly
[08:36] <kirk> and you want it writable
[08:36] <j2daosh> yeah, but my ubuntu is running from a vmware box
[08:37] <zenobius> zetheroo: http://streamripper.sourceforge.net/tutorialconsole.php
[08:37] <j2daosh> so it doesn't see the disks locally
[08:37] <j2daosh> its "over the network"
[08:37] <kirk> yea
[08:37] <kirk> go into windows and make it writebale
[08:37] <kirk> like
[08:37] <IndyGunFreak> Josiah: i've not messed ot much with Alpha releases, other than w/ Gutsy, but Gutsy, as long as you keep the updates current, then you're *current*,
[08:37] <zenobius> zetheroo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonCustomizations
[08:37] <zenobius> verb3k: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonCustomizations
[08:37] <kirk> ricght click on it, share, look at it, click the bos that says let network users write to
[08:38] <kirk> click apply
[08:38] <Josiah> Flannel: I am worried that if I install Gusty when I update to Fiesty it is going to update to the kernel version that doesnt work with my hard drive
[08:38] <zenobius> most peoples questions here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonCustomizations
[08:38] <riaal> What package give widescreeen screen resolutions? (fogot the name) running it on my macbook
[08:38] <kirk> windows sucks my ball vinegar
[08:38] <Josiah> kirk: agreed
[08:38] <kirk> xranr?
[08:38] <riaal> hm?
[08:38] <zenobius> Josiah & kirk, but it apeals to the 'mob mentailty'
[08:39] <besit> I'm having a problem accessing the shares on my ubuntu box from windows 2000. The computer icon appears and seems to come up with the dialog but the username and password doesn't work. It just refeshes. I think I may be getting the input format wrong. Can anyone help me?
[08:39] <kirk> if i could just make counerstrike source work in linux i'd never boot to windows again
[08:39] <zenobius> Josiah & kirk robspiere found out that the mob is a powerful force unstoppable by guillotines
[08:39] <Josiah> kirk: why cant you get source to work?
[08:39] <bullgard4> Where would I feel the most improvement if I replace my 512 MB RAM with 2 GB on an 1.8 GHz Intel Pentium M processor? (No 3D applications planned)
[08:39] <sven_> kirk it works hehe :)
[08:39] <kirk> never tried.
[08:39] <kirk> whats standard way to install it?
[08:39] <Josiah> zenobius: the mob will die and another will arise
[08:40] <Josiah> wine :)
[08:40] <Josiah> steam works with wine as well
[08:40] <Peddy> can anyone please help me install Timevault in 64 bit Gutsy?
[08:40] <kirk> oh sweet
[08:40] <sven_> wine =  Wine Is Not an Emulator   xD
[08:40] <kirk> directx?
[08:40] <sven_> kirk it translates directX commands to openGL :)
[08:40] <zetheroo> zenobius: its got nothing to do about a "fear" of the terminal.....
[08:40] <kirk> ok ill take it
[08:40] <sven_> but better you choose openGL at games
[08:41] <sven_> then it runs more natively
[08:41] <sintacto> s
[08:41] <riaal> common, how do I get widescreen suport for 7.04?
[08:41] <riaal> some package in the standard repos, just forgot its name
[08:41] <zenobius> zetheroo: http://streamripper.sourceforge.net/tutorialconsole.php
[08:41] <Peddy> can anyone tell me about a simple backup program such as OSXs Timemachine but for ubuntu?
[08:41] <sintacto> openchrome?
[08:41] <kirk> ive never used wine before. im off to make it happen
[08:41] <sven_> riaal:  i do have a toshiba 16:10 15,4" tft notebook and i had widescreen on the fly at 7.04 ^^
[08:41] <zetheroo> zenobius: I am trying to get more and more people to go to Linux (Ubuntu) every day... adn those who have made the switch cannot be told that they have to start fidling around with command prompts in order to do somethign relitively simple
[08:41] <kirk> is there 64 amd version of wine?
[08:42] <bullgard4> Peddy: Use rsnapshot.
[08:42] <kirk> shoudl i install 32bit even tho im 64amd?
[08:42] <Peddy> thanks bullgard4
[08:42] <dgjones> !backup | Peddy I use an app called unison which works well, but there's a few suggestions here
[08:42] <ubotu> Peddy I use an app called unison which works well, but there's a few suggestions here: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[08:42] <AdemoS> IndyGunFreak, seems to run fine, though it looks like they complied it for KDE instead of Gnome. How do I add the correct svg file for the icon?
[08:42] <zenobius> zetheroo: dont bother. most love brands and linux isnt a brand its a kernel.
[08:42] <Peddy> thanks guys
[08:42] <IndyGunFreak> AdemoS: do you know where the icon is on your computer?
[08:42] <zetheroo> zenobius: your right about that
[08:43] <bullgard4> Peddy: rsnapshot is not the simplest available in Ubuntu but very good. I use it every single day.
[08:43] <zetheroo> zenobius: thanks for your help
[08:43] <sven_> i have no menu entry for "desktop backgrounds" to change them at system ->settings :(
[08:43] <Peddy> bullgard4- I mean backing up and restoring of single files easily
[08:43] <zenobius> zetheroo: ie. most of my friends that use win and mac do so becuase they know nothing of computers but dont want to come here and admit it or go without that supermarket feel you get with those platforms
[08:43] <Peddy> but thanks
[08:43] <mavi-> sven_: appearance or just right click the desktop
[08:43]  * verb3k thanks zenobius for his help on the IRC
[08:43] <sven_> mavi-:  aaah thank you hehe :)
[08:44] <Josiah> Flannel: wow sorry if that confused you I had my Gustys and my Fiestys backwards. I cannot install Gusty because of the kernel version. If I use Fiesty it will just update it to Gusty and screw the pooch with my kernel again.
[08:44] <bullgard4> Peddy: No, for backing up single files, rsnapshot requires too much overhead.
[08:44] <AdemoS> IndyGunFreak, I'm not sure no. A search for "lmms" turned up nothing
[08:44] <sven_> mavi-: there's no appearance button but rightclick helped hehe :)
[08:44] <sven_> oh my god how cool is this wallpaper o.o earth
[08:45] <Viking667> weird.
[08:45] <IndyGunFreak> AdemoS: idont' know maybe it'd be easier to either download an icon, or use another one thats already in the system.
[08:45] <sven_> mavi-: i've lost my other wallpaper i had before changing from 7.04 to 7.10 :(
[08:45] <bottiger> when I try to update my system I get an error like: "main/a/amarok/amarok-xine_1.4.8-0ubuntu1~gutsy1_i386.deb  Size mismatch"
[08:45] <bottiger> any idea what to do about that?
[08:46] <new2ubuntu> I'm trying to type japanese, I've installed scim and related packages, I've started scim but I cannot get the input method to change.. any suggestions ?
[08:46] <Peddy> can anyone tell me about a simple backup program with a GUI? :)
[08:46] <Peddy> bullgard4 I need something simpler
[08:46] <zenobius> peddy: open your main menu
[08:46] <zenobius> peddy: and search in add/remove
[08:46] <Peddy> backup
[08:46] <malnilion> !backup
[08:46] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[08:46] <dgjones> Peddy, have a look at Unison, thats very easy to use
[08:46] <Josiah> anybody up for a little internet connectivity troubleshooting?
[08:47] <Peddy> dgjones: it does not seem to have a gui
[08:47] <AdemoS> IndyGunFreak, alright I just picked something random. Any idea why it might not have made it's own entry in the menu?
[08:47] <IndyGunFreak> AdemoS: look in /usr/share/pixmaps, there's a lot of icons in that directory and its subdirectories.
[08:47] <zenobius> Josiah: it depends on your ability to comprehend netowrking
[08:47] <bullgard4> Peddy: dgjones has given you very good links. They include also your simple needs.
[08:47] <dgjones> Peddy, it does have a gui, thats what I use, give me a sec, I'll install it on this machine
[08:47] <IndyGunFreak> AdemoS: no colue... it happens to me every once in a while... if it makes you feel better though, just to see if it did the same to me, i installed lmms, and it didn't go into my menu either.
[08:47] <malnilion> Josiah, but we can certainly take a shot
[08:47] <ObeyRoy> Could I burn a CD during a live session?
[08:48] <IndyGunFreak> AdemoS: for instance, for some reason, Frostwire never goes into my menu.., so i always have to add it manually...
[08:48] <zenobius> ObeyRoy: maybe, if you have second drive
[08:48] <Peddy> dgjones: ohh its a seperate package
[08:48] <Peddy> sorry :/
[08:48] <dgjones> Peddy, if you search in synaptic for unison, there's unison-gtk :)
[08:48] <AdemoS> IndyGunFreak, haha that did actually make me feel better. You running 32 or 64 bit?
[08:48] <Peddy> dgjones yeah thanks
[08:48] <IndyGunFreak> AdemoS: 32bit
[08:48] <Josiah> lol. well we will give it a shot :). Internet just stopped working... :( Works on other computer on router (the one im on now) but just stopped on the other. Have rebooted the system and tried different ports... must i reboot router? sounds like its not sending a new dhcp connection request to the router to me
[08:48] <dgjones> Peddy, no probs
[08:49] <AdemoS> IndyGunFreak,  ah okay, good to cover both bases
[08:49] <Josiah> but i dont know how to force linux to do that
[08:49] <zenobius> Peddy : there is also sbackup - Simple Backup Suite for desktop use
[08:49] <kirk> i hope this wine shit works with css
[08:49] <malnilion> Josiah, so you're running over ethernet?
[08:49] <kirk> mmm it will be so on
[08:49] <bullgard4> Where would I feel the most improvement if I replaced my 512 MB RAM with 2 GB using an 1.8 GHz Intel Pentium M processor? (No 3D applications planned)
[08:49] <Josiah> malnilion: correct
[08:49] <zenobius> bullgard4: for me, when i put in 1gb everything ran faster
[08:50] <bottiger> bullgard4: are you ever using all your ram for applications?
[08:50] <bottiger> bullgard4: then yes
[08:50] <bullgard4> bottiger: Yes, often.
[08:50] <Josiah> in windows i would just ipconfig /release all renew all
[08:50] <Josiah> what do i do in linux?
[08:50] <murch> whats the shortcut to switch between workspaces anyone
[08:50] <zenobius> Josiah: not sure, i dont use dhcp by habit
[08:50] <zenobius> Josiah: like to be incontrol
[08:51] <bottiger> bullgard4: then I guess you would feel a difference. but remember, in linux you more or less always use all your rams because of caching
[08:51] <sven_> bullgard4: 1,8ghz is mostly fast enough hehe :) just get more ram than 512 512 is really small today hehe 1gb or more i prefer
[08:51] <bullgard4> zenobius: Can you tell me how much faster, sujectively?
[08:51] <Josiah> zenobius: good point unfortunatly I do not have the password to get into the router and reconfigure... otherwise i wouldnt either
[08:51] <malnilion> Josiah, you might try running dhclient
[08:51] <IndyGunFreak> murch: i always use the scroll wheel, but if that doesn't work for you, check system/preferences/keyboard shortcutzs
[08:51] <murch> ta
[08:52] <ameet> hi
[08:52] <malnilion> Josiah, try running sudo dhclient and see if that gets you a renewed lease
[08:52] <mosno> why is LVM not the default install type?
[08:52] <zenobius> bullgard4: well, metacity didnt stutter is rendering as i dragged windows, apps take 1-3secs to load rather than 20secs, (some gnomes apps still take ages to load)....i can do more thigns at once without sttutered slowdown
[08:52] <Josiah> malnilion: said it did... but not connecting still :(
[08:52] <zenobius> Josiah: to restart netowrking stack : sudo /etc/init.d/netoworking restart
[08:53] <malnilion> Josiah, that's /etc/init.d/networking restart
[08:53] <Josiah> zenobius: ah well that fixed it :) just unplugged the wireless router from the other router... must be a conflict in ip addresses
[08:53] <malnilion> lol
[08:53] <Josiah> :)
[08:53] <zenobius> malnilion: nothing much will happen without sudo
[08:53] <malnilion> zenobius, you misspelled networking :P
[08:53] <zenobius> Josiah: tis why i dont use dhcp,
[08:53] <IndyGunFreak> *except permissiond enied errors
[08:53] <malnilion> But issue resolved regardless :P
[08:54] <Josiah> zenobius: same here... but like I said no control over it at the moment
[08:54] <riaal> how can I access the signs/char templet?
[08:54] <riaal> running with mac keyboard
[08:54] <mnemonica> are directx and d3d the same thing?
[08:54] <riaal> found it
[08:54] <riaal> not
[08:55] <zenobius> mnemonica: directx is the parent project that encompasses direct3d
[08:55] <bullgard4> bottiger: I know the word 'caching'. But when I use find and grep, these programs often need more than 10 minutes to finish. Also, if I have 17 applications open and I switch to another of my 4 desktops, then I begin to think if quadrupling my RAM size would do good.
[08:55] <Josiah> zenobius: when they had their (wireless bleh) internet installed the installer put a pword on the router and I cant figure it out... dont want to reset the router because I dont know if there is any ip addresses or internal user/passes i might need
[08:55] <Josiah> zenobius: then i would be without internet all night... cant have that
[08:55] <mnemonica> zenobius: So running a program, in wine, using d3d is not the same as running it in wine using directx?
[08:55] <bottiger> bullgard4: I think so too
[08:55] <zenobius> Josiah: also i would nt use wifi by habiot either . since its possible to hijack your session regardless of os
[08:56] <zenobius> Josiah: so im no help their
[08:56] <sven_> mnemonica: i would say D3D is a part of directx O.o
[08:56] <zenobius> Josiah: there*
[08:56] <sven_> mnemonica: DirectX  <-- this X stays as replacer for "3D"  "Sound"  "Draw" and so on
[08:56] <Josiah> zenobius: lol... come on zenobius you dont have anything running on wifi? thats no fun
[08:56] <zenobius> Josiah: keep thinking if hte advert for 'tubes' in brazil
[08:57] <zenobius> Hi...and i'd like to talk to you about....tubes
[08:57] <yaba> geeker
[08:57] <Josiah> lol
[08:57] <zenobius> moving right along
[08:57] <mnemonica> sven_: Ok... Cool. _kind of_ answers my question. Thanks. :)
[08:57] <sven_> mnemonica: D3D is a short for direct3D :)
[08:57] <chump> hey guys i
[08:57] <Josiah> hey guys i?
[08:57] <sven_> and Direct3D is a part of DirectX like DirectDraw and DirectSound or others
[08:57] <chump> sorry i fat fingered and was retyping my question
[08:58] <ameet> how can i use the talk feature of Google Talk , am using Ubuntu 7.04
[08:58] <chump> hey guys i'm having issues installing VMware on my  ubuntu gusty its giving me this error during installation
[08:58] <chump> make: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config0/vmnet-only'
[08:58] <chump> Unable to build the vmnet module.
[08:59] <zenobius> chump: check the ubuntu wiki? checked the howto forge?
[08:59] <AdemoS> IndyGunFreak, hmm the latest 64bit build from here says I'm missing libc6 was not satisifed. http://ftp.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/l/lmms/  But if I try to install libc6 from the latest deb from ubuntu's package website, the deb says I already HAVE libc6 installed...
[08:59] <zenobius> chump: google vmware ubuntu install howto forge
[08:59] <chump> thanks
[08:59] <IndyGunFreak> AdemoS: thats wierd... what package is that in relation to?
[08:59] <AdemoS> does the 32 bit install for you?
[08:59] <zenobius> chump: i used the guide about a year ago and it was solid for me
[08:59] <AdemoS> IndyGunFreak, what do you mean by relalation?
[09:00] <zenobius> chump: gone from local memory though, sorry cant help more than that
[09:00] <IndyGunFreak> AdemoS: you need libc6 for what program?
[09:00] <Josiah> chump: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.ubuntu.com%2Farchives%2Fubuntu-users%2F2005-September%2F047811.html&ei=3S-HR9_bHKDUpgTx0fzpDA&usg=AFQjCNGhUjoqc07sJN2qWlOjz4CiMk_p7Q&sig2=gckjU7lDOv0XQgBGkW3zbg
[09:00] <AdemoS> IndyGunFreak, sorry, I need it for lmms_0.3.1-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[09:00] <IndyGunFreak> AdemoS: hmmm..
[09:00] <ameet> or any other  alternative for that
[09:00] <AdemoS> IndyGunFreak, does it give you the same error if you try to install that version?
[09:01] <zenobius> zetheroo: excellent terminal app im using to keep a clean terminal on the desktop is tilda, operates just like the console in quake
[09:01] <IndyGunFreak> AdemoS: try opening a terminal and sudo apt-get build-dep lmms  see if it downloads/installs anything
[09:01] <AdemoS> IndyGunFreak, from that place
[09:01] <Josiah> oops nm that chump
[09:01] <IndyGunFreak> AdemoS: i installed from the Synaptic, and it works fine.
[09:01] <AdemoS> hmm, same here but I thought that deb might fix the menu issue
[09:01] <IndyGunFreak> AdemoS: must be a 64bit issue, cuz it seems to work fine for me.
[09:02] <AdemoS> IndyGunFreak, the deb from there you mean?
[09:02] <zenobius> AdemoS: are you trying latest version? is it good? does it play large songs nice without stutters?
[09:02] <IndyGunFreak> AdemoS: no, installing frmo Synaptic.
[09:02] <AdemoS> IndyGunFreak, well the Synaptic install works fine. But I was trying to use the Deb from that location instead, to see if it would fix the Main Menu issue
[09:02] <zenobius> AdemoS: i was big fan of jekolaBuzz and fruityloops when i was a windows user
[09:02] <osfameron> how do I restart gnome network manager?
[09:03] <IndyGunFreak> AdemoS: oh i see, ok....
[09:03] <osfameron> recently it's taken to soiling itself on resume and claiming there are no network interfaces
[09:03] <AdemoS> zenobius, well I prefered Reason to FL Studio, but Wired isn't as available in terms of debs
[09:03] <IndyGunFreak> AdemoS: that seems kinda like removing the engine of a car to do an oil change.
[09:03] <zenobius> osfameron: comparison to reason in linux is using the jack server with any sound app you want
[09:04] <zenobius> osfameron: woops mistell
[09:04] <osfameron> heh
[09:04] <AdemoS> IndyGunFreak, in reference to what?
[09:04] <IndyGunFreak> AdemoS: just install it from the package manager, and add it to the menu, rather than downloading the .deb, etc...
[09:05] <zenobius> AdemoS: have you tried making a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications ?
[09:05] <AdemoS> zenobius, "are you trying latest version? is it good? does it play large songs nice without stutters?" <--- The version from Synaptic works great, it won't match my Gnome theme, and looks like a KDE app, but the functions are fine. The only issue is you have to make your own Main Menu item
[09:05] <zenobius> AdemoS: ive only used lmms from repos in feisty
[09:05] <AdemoS> zenobius, I wouldn't know how to make a .desktop file
[09:05] <AdemoS> zenobius, all I've done is make a menu entry
[09:06] <zenobius> AdemoS: large songs with many intruments and interesting piano rolls take ages to load and dont always play true
[09:06] <AdemoS> zenobius, so you're saying LMMS isn't that good? Well, is there anything better? Wired looked good, but I couldn't track down a deb for 64 bit
[09:07] <zenobius> AdemoS: lmms is pretty darn close to fruityloops, darn well should be since its trying to clone it...but i remember nullsoft or AOL bought out frutiyloops so no love on the source release
[09:07] <AdemoS> IndyGunFreak, oh and I did install it from the pkg manager, and add it to the menu. That's how it is now, I was just trying to get a official soultion, for if I ever wanted to upgrade
[09:07] <zenobius> AdemoS: anyhting 64bit is no love
[09:07]  * osfameron tries killing network manager
[09:07] <IndyGunFreak> AdemoS: gotcha.. i see what you're saying now.... as for Wired, have youc onsidered downloading the source code?..
[09:07] <zenobius> AdemoS: but i wouldnt know since i dont have 64bit processor
[09:08] <AdemoS> IndyGunFreak, yes, but building from source always seems like trying to re-invent the wheel in terms of steps. I'm probably just being lazy though
[09:08] <zenobius> osfameron: try in terminal : sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[09:08] <osfameron> ok, I've killed nm-appet, and tried to restart it
[09:08] <IndyGunFreak> AdemoS: sometimes.. i think your'e issue is the 64bit though..
[09:08] <osfameron> but of course it doesn't come up again
[09:08] <AdemoS> IndyGunFreak, probably
[09:08] <osfameron> zenobius: ah!  ok... that probably won't bring up the applet again though will it?
[09:09] <zenobius> osfameron: no, but you should check your system menu -> preferences -> session
[09:09] <AdemoS> IndyGunFreak, I used to have 32 bit, changed to 64 bit for the increased RAM (I have 8 GB of it) I mainly use this computer for Blender and Cinelerra
[09:09] <osfameron> zenobius: it also doesn't bring up eth1 again
[09:09] <IndyGunFreak> AdemoS: not that i encourage people to leave Ubuntu, but one of the few distros that is 64bit ready in my opinion, is Suse.
[09:09] <zenobius> osfameron: is it in there? is it set to restart on crash?
[09:09] <osfameron> zenobius: after running restart, ifconfig just shows me "lo"
[09:09] <AdemoS> IndyGunFreak, yeah I've heard good things about OpenSuse, a friend has it. I may try dual booting with it one day. For now though, Ubuntu seem good enough
[09:09] <osfameron> zenobius: I don't have a "Session" under System - Preferences
[09:10] <AdemoS> IndyGunFreak, does OpenSose use Gnome by default?
[09:10] <zenobius> osfameron: you should
[09:10] <sven_> AdemoS: nope it uses what you choose :P
[09:10] <IndyGunFreak> AdemoS: i don't think so, i think suse(at least it used to), kinda used its own bastard GUI... i don't recall the libraries that it used... that was ages ago for me.
[09:10] <sven_> you can choose by install
[09:10] <osfameron> zenobius: I'm on 6.10 still.  Menu goes from "Search and Indexing" to "Sound"
[09:11] <AdemoS> IndyGunFreak, ah I see.
[09:11] <zenobius> osfameron: edgey is on edge. feisty is rockn and ready to bounce ya
[09:11] <AdemoS> sven_, :P Well so does Ubuntu, but that doesn't really say anything besides "Options exist"
[09:11] <zenobius> osfameron: anyhting to do with startup?
[09:11] <sven_> AdemoS: openSuSe uses KDE or Gnome or Xfce (depends on your install choosing) and has upgrades to style these environments in suse way :)
[09:12] <Sandy_Malteser> hi
[09:12] <osfameron> zenobius: yeah, I'm waiting to get new laptop to install it on.  I have very little disk space and my external HD is knackered, so haven't done a *full* backup in ages (YES, I SUCK)  hence no upgrade yet
[09:12] <zenobius> osfameron: im on feisty, much more stable...and it seems they mess ed around with the menus too
[09:12] <sven_> AdemoS:  but by default (at install screen) KDE is marked
[09:12] <zenobius> osfameron: no need to backup if you had put /home on a another partition
[09:12] <osfameron> zenobius: yeah, I just installed xubuntu gutsy on my old desktop pc/server, looks lovely
[09:12] <IndyGunFreak> sven_: i thought that was the case, but wasn't 100% sure
[09:12] <osfameron> zenobius: how do I check?
[09:13] <AdemoS> sven_, ah I see. You seem like a OpenSuse missionary, sent to pull away users. :P
[09:13] <sven_> IndyGunFreak: no problem hehe :)
[09:13] <osfameron> zenobius: but I'd like to back up /etc and so on too, as there's bound to be config files I'll mess up...
[09:13] <zenobius> osfameron: xubuntu lacks porper desktop use of netowrks file sharing and intergration like gnome has
[09:13] <sven_> AdemoS:  rofl hell no xD i dont hate any linux distro all have good and bad things on their own :> after all i just used alot of hehe
[09:13] <zenobius> osfameron: check? waht version ubuntu or where your partitions are?
[09:14] <IndyGunFreak> suse isn't to bad, but like i said, iv'e not used it in many years... i'm just in love w/ debian.
[09:14] <AdemoS> sven_, :P Well as a non-hater, would you agree that OpenSuse does 64 bit better? And if so how? Just greater number of 64 bit packages?
[09:14] <osfameron> zenobius: it's a really old machine... from 2000, low memory.  The ubuntu install CD crapped itself.  Actually even the xubuntu GUI install CD would have failed :-)
[09:14] <osfameron> zenobius: the partitions
[09:14] <sven_> AdemoS: but for me suse is a bit to slow at install of software (yast rpm system with caching of repos every time so slooow) :)
[09:14] <zenobius> osfameron: sudo fdisk -l
[09:14] <zenobius> osfameron: or sudo cat /etc/fstab
[09:14] <zenobius> osfameron: or for Mounted File Sytem Table : sudo cat /etc/mtab
[09:15] <AdemoS> sven_, OOOH yeah, the friend who has it told me Suse creates everything from source so it takes a while to install new things.......I hate waiting but does that mean you can just throw source files at it and watch them install? :D
[09:15]  * AdemoS uses wishful thinking
[09:15] <AdemoS> xD
[09:15] <bazhang> is this #suse or #ubuntu ?
[09:15] <sven_> AdemoS: no it doesnt do anything better it works simultaneous 32 + 64bit at once same time thats the funny thing hehe :) but 64bit kernel (with 32bit cappability) for more ram support
[09:15] <osfameron> zenobius: oh, even df -h (incidentally)
[09:15] <osfameron> zenobius: but no, this install doesn't have /home on a separate party
[09:15] <zenobius> osfameron: yep that DiskFree
[09:15] <IndyGunFreak> bazhang: its #ubususe
[09:15] <Josiah> anybody tried gos?
[09:16] <bazhang> IndyGunFreak: haha
[09:16] <AdemoS> sven_, well that's what got me. Supposedly (never used it) but Windows 64 bit can run 32 bit things without issue. So the fact that Ubuntu won't (without a massive amount of tweaking/installing) was kind of a let-down.
[09:16] <zenobius> osfameron: consider it next time
[09:16] <osfameron> zenobius: yeah, I did on that xubuntu install.  Will make a note for lappy too
[09:16] <sven_> AdemoS: nope suse doesnt create everything from source suse has its own package format named .rpm and these cabs have all pre-configured mostly hehe
[09:16] <IndyGunFreak> AdemoS: thats the one thing thats kept me from running 64bit.., its just not wortht he hassle to me, so i'll stay w/ 32bit for the forseeable future
[09:16] <bazhang> Josiah: yeah but offtopic here; e17 on top of Ubuntu 7.10; not easy to get going as far as codecs
[09:16] <zenobius> sven_: suse uses rpm?
[09:17] <IndyGunFreak> zenobius: it used to, don't knwo if it still does
[09:17] <zenobius>  bazhang:  Josiah: just tried it a couple days ago, the e17-cvs...and i dont recommend it
[09:17] <zenobius>  bazhang:  Josiah: it borked my apt-get
[09:17] <sven_> AdemoS:  yes thats cause ubuntu is based on debian and debian can only 32 or 64bit at same time as one said to me from the debian team some time back suse can both things but is slower then a bit
[09:17] <IndyGunFreak> !suse
[09:17] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[09:18] <zenobius> very much am disliking the rpm hell.
[09:18] <AdemoS> sven_, hah slow and steady huh?
[09:18] <AdemoS> sven_, this article explains why I went with 64 bit http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,111508-page,1/article.html
[09:18] <sven_> AdemoS: i dont know what fits to you just try all things and find your best
[09:18] <AdemoS> Mainly that you can use more RAM and run things faster. Things like 3D modeling and video editing
[09:18] <Josiah> zenobius: lol ok... i hear there is a way to get e17 with the gos theme and everything through ubuntu without installing gos itself
[09:19] <zenobius> AdemoS: also i think Suse have benifit of a deal with microsoft, since novell is in their pocket...am i wrong i might be
[09:19] <zenobius> Josiah: a live cd is available for that
[09:19] <sven_> AdemoS: 64bit is better yes but not standard everywhere today just wait some time soon ubuntu will be 64bit only too when 64bit comes standard :)
[09:19] <IndyGunFreak> ah yes, Suse's deal w/ the Devil
[09:19] <kirk> wine kicks ass
[09:19] <IndyGunFreak> there was a big backlash when that happened, on LQ.org
[09:19] <zenobius> so yeah if suse have megacorp backing then its no wonder they have a pot of gold from scrouges vault
[09:19] <IndyGunFreak> kirk: when it works
[09:20] <Josiah> zenobius:  i think you can do it by just adding the repositorie and telling it to get one thing... let me see if i can find that howto
[09:20] <AdemoS> sven_, haha that'll be the day. And I'll come back to #ubuntu to giggle at you :P
[09:20] <sven_> zenobius: the most money novell makes through payed support
[09:20] <sven_> paid? omg i dont know
[09:20] <kirk> milkdrop2 works
[09:20] <zenobius> Josiah: not interested. e17 is only a pretty desktop, not funcational...the file manager isnt even better than my the rockbox file navigator on my ipod
[09:20] <IndyGunFreak> sven_: the good thign though, is Debian will probably always have a 32bit release...lol
[09:21] <Josiah> http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2007/12/steps-to-install-gos-on-ubuntu-gutsy.html
[09:21] <sven_> AdemoS: why so? i do like 32bit still fine enough for me and my newest notebook supports it and all codecs too so i will stay some time with 32bit
[09:21] <zenobius> sven_ : ahh i was wrong
[09:21] <Josiah> zenobius: lol ok :) I just liked that ibar it comes with
[09:21] <nios> if i want to tar all in /home/* how to do that ?
[09:21] <AdemoS> sven_, oh, I didn't have a good point, I just wanted to giggle for the sake of giggling xD
[09:21] <sven_> IndyGunFreak: yeah but thats for hardware support but soon 64bit will turn the standard and most will have 64bit then hehe :)
[09:21] <Josiah> zenobius: and the theme... i think they did a very nice job with the theme
[09:21] <zenobius> Josiah: it crashes to much to be useful too
[09:21] <Symmetria> can someone give me the format of a bind mount entry in fstab?
[09:22] <IndyGunFreak> sven_: very true... :)
[09:22] <sven_> AdemoS: lol @ randomness xD
[09:22] <AdemoS> sven_, I think that's a good sign that I should get some sleep 4:22 AM here
[09:22] <AdemoS> goodnight guys
[09:22] <earlmred> nios: tar cfp backupname.tar /home
[09:22] <zenobius> Josiah: but i would like it as my main, since it is quite fast at rendering windows
[09:22] <Josiah> zenobius: sucks for all those people that are buying the wal-mart $200 machines :)
[09:22] <sven_> AdemoS: it's 10:22am here :P
[09:23] <Josiah> zenobius: e17 is?
[09:23] <zenobius> Josiah: they making same desicion there as when they choose to buy chemmically pumped prepeared food packages rather than cook their own food from scratch with herbs
[09:23] <zenobius> Josiah: yep
[09:24] <sven_> i prefer .deb when i have to decide between .deb and .rpm :) just for speed
[09:24] <Beelze> someone of you have a guide to install kde 4 for ubuntu?
[09:24] <Josiah> zenobius: mmm sounds yummy
[09:24] <loodjuret> is kde 4 out?
[09:24] <loodjuret> released?
[09:24] <Josiah> so iBar sucks huh
[09:24] <zenobius> yup, only cvs though i think
[09:24] <Beelze> y think so
[09:24] <loodjuret> k
[09:25] <zenobius> Josiah: its a nueterd version of avant-windows-manager, cept i dont require a compositing manager
[09:25] <zenobius> Josiah: or kiba-dock
[09:25] <Josiah> which is best? or is it best not to use one?
[09:25] <earlmred> Beelze: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:25] <zenobius> Josiah: its not bad though, just not usable and i cant replace gnome-panel with any of those reliably yet
[09:26] <sven_> zenobius: apple friend? :)
[09:26] <zenobius> earlmred: kde4 not kde3
[09:26] <loodjuret> just love avant-window-navigator
[09:26] <Beelze> earlmred, but i get kde3 then
[09:26] <earlmred> zenobius: isn't it kde4 on gutsy?
[09:26] <zenobius> earlmred: no. sven_: no.
[09:26] <earlmred> zenobius: i see kde4 packages in apt-cache
[09:26] <Josiah> gos
[09:26] <zenobius> earlmred: empty they be
[09:26] <Josiah> oops :)
[09:26] <Josiah> wrong keyboard mt sorry
[09:27] <zenobius> Josiah: yeah that has a livecd you can get and use
[09:27] <earlmred> Beelze: http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[09:27] <Josiah> id wrather not :)
[09:28] <Beelze> thx earlmred i´ve used that link some days before
[09:28] <neko_> hi people
[09:28] <zenobius> earlmred: sudo apt-cache show kde4base...oops eat my own words they have bytes size now
[09:28] <neko_> fast question
[09:28] <earlmred> zenobius: yeah, i thought i saw it
[09:28] <earlmred> i think apt-get install kde4base is all you need to do
[09:28] <zenobius> earlmred: when i check last week they had no bytesize
[09:28] <Taffy_nay> Hey people, I'm having trouble with ALSA on ubuntu 7.10. Every time I plug headphones into the sound card on my laptop, i get sound through the headphones AND the laptop speakers. It does not switch, and I cant seem to find a way to switch manually
[09:28] <zenobius> earlmred: be our guinea pig?
[09:28] <neko_> do you know if it is possible to have the input line of a terminal in a different color than the output of the commands
[09:29] <Josiah> alright... k9copy issues... it gets about halfway through reading the dvd and then closes completely.... anybody?
[09:29] <loodjuret> Taffy_nay: volume control -> switches -> headphone jack sence
[09:29] <zenobius> Josiah: i use acidrip, on feisty, and i have the codecs from medibuntu repos
[09:30] <zenobius> Josiah: i just made a ackup of shameless season 1 no problems
[09:30] <jgonzalez> hi, anybody out there with a working bluetooth headset? I'm trying to configure mine without success
[09:30] <neko_> "mycomputer:/home/some/path$ ls" in bright white for example and the output of ls in a dimmer color
[09:30] <Taffy_nay> loodjuret: I have that option ticked alread, but it is making no difference
[09:30] <neko_> (don't know if my question is clear
[09:30] <Josiah> zenobius: is this damned deadwood season 3... giving me problems with dvdfab as well
[09:30] <murch> hey folks quick question
[09:31] <murch> is it worth trying to set up my XF-i card
[09:31] <loodjuret> Taffy_nay: check the connection. should work
[09:31] <zenobius> Josiah: dvdfab? a prog? not used it.. your using kde as a desktop?
[09:31] <zenobius> murch: waht is "XF-i card"
[09:31] <Josiah> sorry dvdfab is on my windows machine... best backup program ever... wish i could use it in ubuntu
[09:31] <zenobius> Josiah: is it dual layer?
[09:31] <Josiah> zenobius: the dvd?
[09:32] <Taffy_nay> tloodjuret: the connection is fine, as I said, i get sound through both output points
[09:32] <zenobius> Josiah: i used dvddecryptor on windows
[09:32] <murch> creative sound card
[09:32] <gee1> sound card?
[09:32] <ameet> my capture is not working
[09:32] <ameet> sound capture
[09:32] <zenobius> Josiah: yep is it dual layer or something exotic like that?
[09:32] <Josiah> zenobius: i use dvddecryptor as well... still do in ubuntu but dvdfab is way better imo
[09:32] <earlmred> bah
[09:32] <Josiah> zenobius: nope not dual layer
[09:32] <earlmred> stupid "desktop effects could not be enabled"
[09:32] <Josiah> just a pain
[09:32] <earlmred> i think desktop effects hates xinerama
[09:33] <ameet> my sound capture is not working , what to do
[09:33] <loodjuret> Taffy_nay: strange. works for me. using ubuntu?
[09:33] <zenobius> ammet: try looking on : wiki.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com/community first
[09:33] <tarelerul2>  Is  Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  T2310  @ 1.46GHz  a 64 bit processor ?  anyone
[09:33] <zenobius> ammet: gutsy or feisty?
[09:34] <IndyGunFreak> tarelerul2: 1.5ghz?  i doubt it, but it might be...
[09:35] <IndyGunFreak> tarelerul2: if you're not sure, just use 32bit ubuntu, unless you have some reason to need 64bit.
[09:35] <zenobius> Joshia: have you got libdvdcss2 from medibuntu repos installed?
[09:35] <Taffy_nay> loodjuret: I have had four iterations of ubuntu on my laptop, all of which I have managed to find a way to, at least, manually switch.  This just has me totally confuzzled
[09:35] <Josiah> zenobius: yesir
[09:35] <Josiah> and 3
[09:36] <zenobius> Josiah: okies
[09:36] <Johnny_5> is 64 bit ubuntu as stable as 32 bit??
[09:36] <zenobius> Josiah: i suspect gutsy was released far too early for consumption
[09:37] <Johnny_5> how does one know which one they have?
[09:37] <IndyGunFreak> Johnny_5: i imagine they're both stable, but 32bit is far less hassle
[09:37] <Johnny_5> k
[09:37] <Josiah> zenobius: I agree... I did not have any issues with it on my machine until I updated the bios... and according to the forums the issue I am having is with the kernel version and the hard drive I have
[09:37] <IndyGunFreak> Johnny_5: in a terminal uname -a  whats the output?.. that will tell you what verison your'e using.
[09:38] <Johnny_5> k
[09:38] <Johnny_5> thanx
[09:38] <Josiah> zenobius: I dont know... just figured I would get hardy and try it from there
[09:38] <Josiah> zenobius: supposadly thats the fix :(
[09:38] <tarelerul2> IndyGunFreak  , what do you mean  hassle ?
[09:38] <ameet> feisty
[09:38] <zenobius> kirk: to update enviroment variables i needed to use the export command as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[09:39] <IndyGunFreak> tarelerul2: web plugins, some programs don't have 64bit versions, etc.. i'm sure for some, its great, to me, it was just a headache..
[09:39] <Josiah> zenobius: you use ubuntu tweak / compiz fusion?
[09:39] <loodjuret> Taffy_nay: nothing related on ubuntuforums.org ? should be a way to check whether the jack sensor is detecting the cord or not.
[09:39] <zenobius> ameet: you can use terminal?
[09:39] <sss> Is it possible to upgrade to ubuntu 7.1 from ubuntu 6.0 without losing any data ?
[09:39] <mkquist> hey all, I'm running a generic kernel.  Is it better to run a kernel for my cpu?  noob question i know...
[09:39] <zenobius> Josiah: i have it running on dual screen with fraembuffer. on a raedon 9660
[09:39] <mkquist> or does it matter?
[09:39] <ameet> I can
[09:39] <tarelerul2> IndyGunFreak:  I think java and flash player where not 64 bit
[09:40] <IndyGunFreak> tarelerul2: yeah.
[09:40] <zenobius> ameet: run sudo lspci and pastebin the output for me
[09:40] <Josiah> both of them? does ubuntu tweak recognize your compiz fusion? its not recognizing mine
[09:40] <ameet> ok
[09:40] <zenobius> ammet: ps nice plugin for pastebin for gnome in repos called weboard
[09:41] <ameet> here u go
[09:41] <zenobius> Josiah: ubuntu tweak? not using that . i installed compiz using amaranths repos
[09:41] <ameet> 00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 Host Bridge (rev 10)
[09:41] <ameet> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge
[09:41] <ameet> 00:05.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 5a37
[09:41] <ameet> 00:06.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge
[09:41] <ameet> 00:12.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 Non-Raid-5 SATA
[09:41] <ameet> 00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI0)
[09:41] <ameet> 00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI1)
[09:41] <ameet> 00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI2)
[09:41] <ameet> 00:13.3 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI3)
[09:41] <zenobius> ammet: i said pastebin.
[09:41] <ameet> 00:13.4 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI4)
[09:41] <dgjones> !paste > ameet
[09:41] <ameet> 00:13.5 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB Controller (EHCI)
[09:41] <ameet> 00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 SMBus (rev 13)
[09:41] <ameet> 00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 IDE
[09:41] <zenobius> kek
[09:41] <ameet> 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 Azalia
[09:41] <ameet> 00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 PCI to LPC Bridge
[09:41] <zenobius> lol
[09:41] <ameet> 00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 PCI to PCI Bridge
[09:41] <IndyGunFreak> moron
[09:41] <ameet> 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
[09:41] <dgjones> !ops | ameet (paste)
[09:41] <ubotu> ameet (paste): Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[09:41] <ameet> 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
[09:41] <ameet> 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
[09:41] <Josiah> ameet use pastebin
[09:41] <ameet> 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
[09:41] <ameet> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS482 [Radeon Xpress 200M]
[09:41] <ameet> 05:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01)
[09:41] <zenobius> too late
[09:41] <Josiah> or just stop that
[09:41] <Josiah> lol
[09:42] <elkbuntu> ameet, PM me or come into -ops when your flood finishes
[09:42] <Beelze> should i use the kdm-kde4 display manager or can i hold my gdm?
[09:42] <zenobius> ameet: sudo apt-get install webboard
[09:42] <Beelze> a question while installing  kde4
[09:43] <Josiah> zenobius: hopefully tweak ubuntu will take off. I like what they are doing so far.
[09:43] <zenobius> Josiah: is it like tweakUI for windows?
[09:43] <Josiah> zenobius: yeah
[09:44] <zenobius> Josiah: ahh frontend to options available in gconf
[09:44] <zenobius> Josiah: as twekUI is a frontedn to options avail in the much harder to manipualte registry
[09:44] <Josiah> zenobius: yeah but it also works with 3rd party apps.... like metacity, compiz fusion, nautilus
[09:44] <ubuntu_newbie> hai
[09:45] <tarelerul2> I think I found my cpu ,but it says  64bit + and - what does that mean one one
[09:45] <sss> Is it possible to upgrade to ubuntu 7.1 from ubuntu 6.0 without losing any data ?
[09:45] <ubuntu_newbie> u may use ubuntu for 64 cpu
[09:45] <zenobius> Josiah: third party doesnt sound right here
[09:45] <ubuntu_newbie> like AMD 64
[09:45] <zenobius> Josiah: hehe it would in a lockdown world of "dont cross the red line"
[09:46]  * zenobius neckbrace explodes
[09:46] <Josiah> zenobius: ok... dont know how else to put it.
[09:46] <mkquist> do kernel builds matter anymore?  maybe that's the question...
[09:46] <zenobius> Josiah: i get it
[09:46] <Josiah> zenobius: well... we will see what they do :)
[09:46] <erawfish> sss: yes but you have to upgrade to every version along the way. 6.06 then 7.04 then 7.10. so you need to do 3 upgrades
[09:46] <gee1> yes
[09:46] <Johnny_5> ubuntu_newbie: but i hear its a pain to use the 64 bit version of the os
[09:46] <ubuntu_newbie> no one help me?
[09:46] <sss> I am ready to! where are the instructions?
[09:47] <zenobius> Josiah: it a good idea, is it in one gui now? before it was spread out over a few
[09:47] <ubuntu_newbie> why
[09:47] <Johnny_5> ubuntu_newbie: what do u need help with?
[09:47] <Josiah> zenobius: yeah. they are is v.02 :)
[09:47] <erawfish> tarelerul2: where did you see that + - thing
[09:47] <erawfish> !upgrade
[09:47] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:47] <zenobius> ubuntu_newbie: you didnt actually ask a question....you gave an answer "u may use ubuntu for 64 cpu"
[09:47] <Josiah> zenobius: sorry .2
[09:48] <mkquist> !kernel
[09:48] <sss> erawfish: thanks
[09:48] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[09:48] <mkquist> !k7 kernel
[09:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about k7 kernel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:48] <tarelerul2> erawfish  This is what ubuntu tell me my cpu is  Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  T2310  @ 1.46GHz and here is the page http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/chart/pentium_dual-core.htm
[09:48] <zenobius> omg swiftfox site is down
[09:49] <erawfish> tarelerul2: check your /proc/cpuinfo
[09:49] <zenobius> not now
[09:49] <zenobius> back up
[09:49] <IndyGunFreak> tarelerul2: so whats the question?
[09:49] <Johnny_5> ubuntu_newbie: r u from Japan?
[09:49] <Josiah> zenobius: i get on just fine
[09:50] <ubuntu_newbie> i'm new user ubuntu. i was installed 7.10, but i'm need more software. i have some software who need to install. there i found i must configure then type make, and make install. but why i cant??
[09:50] <zenobius> yeah it was for a few seconds...must be running a server with not much threads
[09:50] <tarelerul2> IndyGunFreak:  What dose the + -  on 64  bit mean on that page
[09:50] <erawfish> tarelerul2: ask intel
[09:50] <cwillu> anybody ever hear of synaptic just freezing when hitting apply or okay in the prefs dialog (without having changed anything in the dialog)?
[09:50] <IndyGunFreak> tarelerul2: i don't think thats a - sign, i think thats a line under the + sign.
[09:50] <tarelerul2> ok put it this way what do you all think ?
[09:51] <erawfish> tarelerul2: we think you are offtopic
[09:51] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[09:51] <Johnny_5> ubuntu_newbie: what software r u refering to?
[09:51] <dgjones> ubuntu_newbie, its very rare that you'll need to manually install software with ubuntu, most app's you need are already in Synaptic package manager, you should be able to search for the app and if its there, you just tick the box and it will install it for you
[09:51] <zenobius> tarelerul2: i alwasy thought that symbol meant "tolerance within this range"
[09:51] <ubuntu_newbie> no i'm from indonesia
[09:51] <tarelerul2>  I am think about geting  64 Ubuntu and I was just wondering  if  I have 64 bit cpu . That is all
[09:52] <Johnny_5> ah...
[09:52] <IndyGunFreak> tarelerul2: wellt aht chart you posted seems to be quite clear
[09:52] <zenobius> ubuntu_newbie; al-ka-mana? is that right?
[09:52] <erawfish> tarelerul2: and I told you where to look
[09:52] <zenobius> ubuntu_newbie: did very little indonesian in primary school
[09:52] <erawfish> tarelerul2: if you have questions about intel websites: ask intel. not us
[09:52] <compwiz18> where would one find the HAL log at?
[09:52] <ameet> @zenobius : what do i do ?
[09:52] <zenobius> ubuntu_newbie: but yes you can run ubuntu on 64bit, but be prepared for effort
[09:52] <erawfish> ubuntu_newbie: you still haven't said what software
[09:53] <IndyGunFreak> erawfish: well, i tsounds like he's trying to compile something...lol
[09:53] <zenobius> ameet: have you pasted your output of lspci into a pastebin server, if so give me the url
[09:53] <erawfish> IndyGunFreak: it sounds he has no clue how to ask in an answerable way
[09:53] <Josiah> ubuntu_newbie: enable a universe and multiverse repositories and see if your software is listed.
[09:53] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[09:53] <Josiah> :)
[09:53] <zenobius> compwiz18: not in /var/logs ?
[09:53] <dgjones> IndyGunFreak, I get the feeling they don't know about synaptic
[09:53] <tarelerul2> zenobius, you mean "tolerance within this range" like it could go either 64 bit or not .  both os I am running are 32 bit
[09:54] <vlt> Hello. I want to open a .docx file. It seems to be MS's new "open" document format. I know it's evil and I rather should delete this from my ubuntu pc and my brain immediately ... but how _could_ I open it? Just in theory, purely academic ;-)
[09:54] <IndyGunFreak> dgjones: lol, ya think?
[09:54] <compwiz18> zenobius, if it is, it isn't called hal.log
[09:54] <zenobius> tarelerul2: yeah.
[09:54] <erawfish> !ot | tarelerul2
[09:54] <ubotu> tarelerul2: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:54] <dgjones> IndyGunFreak, just slightly
[09:54] <_moro_bana_> DOES THIS REMOVE WINE  FROM MY SYSTEM: sudo apt-get remove wine
[09:54] <dgjones> :)
[09:54] <erawfish> tarelerul2: please take your hardware questions to ##hardware
[09:54] <IndyGunFreak> _moro_bana_: yes...
[09:54] <Josiah> vlt: use docs.google.com and convert it in there
[09:54] <cwillu> _moro_bana_, assuming you installed it via apt or synaptic or similar
[09:54] <zenobius> compwiz18: since gutsy or feisty are having many different variations in its conf files etc, which one are you using...
[09:54] <_moro_bana_> IndyGunFreak: COMPLETLY ?
[09:54] <ubuntu_newbie> when i get the software in .deb, i can install it. but in my country i have some magazine about linux, there has many software, but in package, and i must compile by my own. but, ican't
[09:54] <compwiz18> zenobius, gutsy
[09:55] <IndyGunFreak> _moro_bana_: how did you install it?
[09:55] <dgjones> ubuntu_newbie, what software are you trying to install?
[09:55] <ubuntu_newbie> like songbird
[09:55] <compwiz18> _moro_bana_, sudo apt-get --purge remove wine removes completely, I think
[09:55] <_moro_bana_> IndyGunFreak: manually that was before i managet to connect to internet
[09:55] <zenobius> ubuntu_newbie: ahhh you will need build-essential, and you may even need to grab special one for 64bit
[09:55] <IndyGunFreak> _moro_bana_: so you installed it from source?
[09:56] <erawfish> ubuntu_newbie: then said CD is useless. fix your sources.list
[09:56] <Johnny_5> ubuntu_newbie: well one thing u can do is go to add/remove and in the box that says show: you can click in the box and tell it to show all available applications and you can go to  software sources and make sure multivers and universe and so forth are selected...
[09:56] <_moro_bana_> IndyGunFreak: i downloaded the pack from packages.ubuntu yse
[09:56] <Josiah> ubuntu_newbie: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-songbird-music-player-in-ubuntu.html#more-105
[09:56] <zenobius> ubuntu_newbie: but more reliable source of ingformation is on wiki.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com
[09:56] <erawfish> ubuntu_newbie: and you still haven't told us WHAT software!
[09:56] <IndyGunFreak> _moro_bana_: that doesn't mean you installed from source.. did you download a .deb file, or a tar.gz file
[09:56] <IndyGunFreak> erawfish: the software he wants!
[09:56] <_moro_bana_> IndyGunFreak: deb file
[09:56] <Josiah> erawfish: yeah he did. songbird
[09:56] <zenobius> ubuntu_newbie & erawfish: basically anything 64bit i assume
[09:56] <compwiz18> zenobius, the wiki tells us what is up with that : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingRemovableDevices
[09:57] <IndyGunFreak> _moro_bana_: ok, then sudo apt-get remove wine should work, if you want to purge it...
[09:57] <compwiz18> zenobius, it would appear there is no log file...
[09:57] <tarelerul2> zenobius , thanks for the infro.  I don't think everyone in here should know everything I ask . Just wondering if any of you had an idea . That is all
[09:57] <Josiah> ubuntu_newbie: if you goto that link i posted it will walk you through it step by step
[09:57] <zenobius> compwiz18: your trying to mount ipod auto style?
[09:57] <IndyGunFreak> _moro_bana_: i can't remember how to purge a program, i'm sure someone here knows
[09:57] <Josiah> ubuntu_newbie: in english... maybe google will translate it for you
[09:57] <Josiah> ubuntu_newbie: if needed
[09:57] <cwillu> I've got a synaptic problem
[09:57] <zenobius> tarelerul2: public forums is the store of non-institutionalised knowledge
[09:57] <_moro_bana_> IndyGunFreak: apt-get --purge remove, pasted already
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[09:58] <compwiz18> zenobius, nope, trying to mount my usb key, sudo mount works fine, hal doesn't. works fine on all the XP comps I've tried too
[09:58] <goldsniper> hi all
[09:58] <IndyGunFreak> _moro_bana_: ok.. so there you go.
[09:58] <bullgard4> https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/ lists several languages, for example es - Spanish. What does 'C' stand for?
[09:58] <cwillu> when I go into the preferences page and hit ok, the whole program freezes
[09:58] <erawfish> compwiz18: when you plug it in, what does dmesg say?
[09:58] <zenobius> compwiz18: it would work fine on xp since they have all the funding and tech docs
[09:58] <goldsniper> its exciting to be here :-D
[09:58] <erawfish> bullgard4: "default"
[09:58] <zenobius> compwiz18: but i would stronlgy suggest you use feisty instead
[09:59] <erawfish> cwillu:try apt-get instead
[09:59] <goldsniper> this is my first time using linux
[09:59] <cwillu> goldsniper, I'd rather be fishing :p
[09:59] <goldsniper> exciting
[09:59] <compwiz18> erawfish, dmesg says all the normal things (as far as I can tell) and the device registers, would youl ike me to pastebin the output?
[09:59] <compwiz18> zenobius, why should I use Feisty?
[09:59] <bullgard4> erawfish: I cannot detect any letter 'C' in the word 'default'. Please explain.
[09:59] <zenobius> compwiz18: far more stable and reliable
[09:59] <erawfish> bullgard4: learn how UNICODE works
[09:59] <compwiz18> zenobius, gutsy seems fine to me...
[09:59] <cwillu> erawfish, that strikes me as an 'ignoring the problem' type solution :p
[09:59] <erawfish> eris: and i18n in general
[09:59] <goldsniper> cwillu : i know windows but never thought ubuntu is quite easy
[10:00] <bullgard4> erawfish: Is that all that you can contribute in answering my question?
[10:00] <erawfish> cwillu: it isn't. no error, no logs: no help from us
[10:00] <compwiz18> erawfish, of course, now it works fine.
[10:00] <zenobius> compwiz18: im using it becuase xrandr decides my card cant do dual screen nor 3d, but look at me now, in fiesty i have compiz running over two screens as one large desktop, video playing on both...down with xrandr
[10:00] <erawfish> cwillu: cause we are not psychic
[10:00] <goldsniper> anyway got myself a broadband  today
[10:00] <erawfish> bullgard4: ask a ubuntu related support question next time. and no, this isn't one
[10:00] <goldsniper> and i am wondering to to nstall program in ubuntu? the is no installer?
[10:00] <compwiz18> zenobius, my computer can't power compiz on the monitor i'm using (bad gfx card) and compiz is slow with ati drivers anyway
[10:01] <mosno> interesting, apt-get lets me remove cups-common, but aptitude complains and tries to take actions to resolve deps
[10:01] <erawfish> goldsniper: there is. https://help.ubuntu.com/ you should read that
[10:01] <mosno> according to the dry-run of each
[10:01] <bullgard4> erawfish: Haha. You may have noticed that the website contains an 'ubuntu' identifier.
[10:01] <zenobius> compwiz18: upto you, your actually using a version hat hasnt been fully tested.
[10:01] <goldsniper> oo..okay.. im off to read
[10:01] <dgjones> !synaptic | goldsniper
[10:01] <ubotu> goldsniper: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[10:01] <goldsniper> thank you all
[10:01] <sleshy> I have fairly odd question really I just tried Ubuntu for the first time and when installing Java 1.6 update 3 I can no longer get Runescape to work. It says I have the wrong version Going to the Sun Java Test site it says the installation is fine. Ther eare only two possible explanations I can see. 1 Runscape doesn't work with the latest JRE or 2 It doesn't work with Linux JRE implementation. I only just noticed i actually still have 1.
[10:01] <erawfish> bullgard4: about 50% programs in ubuntu are written in C. doesn't mean we support C here. same thing
[10:01] <compwiz18> zenobius, ok
[10:01] <_moro_bana_> IndyGunFreak : i did that to wine and automatix, they just stay on my menu
[10:01] <zenobius> compwiz18: waht card? im using raedon 9600.
[10:02] <compwiz18> zenobius, ati 200m, it's a laptop,
[10:02] <zetheroo> what is the swap memory for?
[10:02] <bullgard4> erawfish: Your answer is not helpful.
[10:02] <zenobius> zetheroo: same as windows virtual memory
[10:02] <erawfish> bullgard4: your question is OT
[10:02] <zenobius> zetheroo: but better
[10:02] <_moro_bana_> IndyGunFreak: on the terminal it shows that they are not installed
[10:02] <compwiz18> zenobius, and the latest drivers don't support 1680x1050, which is the size of my monitor, so... I'm stuck with mesa because something got screwed up
[10:02] <ameet> u got it ??
[10:02] <sleshy> zetheroo just like windows virtual memory but more secure
[10:03] <zenobius> compwiz18: im happy with 1024x768
[10:03] <erawfish> sleshy: please don't lie
[10:03] <zetheroo> I have a screenlet which shows the RAM and Swap Memory ... and the swap only has 1% used.... and my Ram is sitting at 47%
[10:03] <ubuntu_newbie> i want have a friend who now and expert in ubuntu, Arie Indonesia my phone number +627518230885
[10:03] <mosno> bullgard4: you want to know what the C locale is?
[10:03] <zetheroo> is that good?
[10:03] <cwillu> erawfish, no output in terminal when run, nothing showing up in the logs;  the closest I've been able to find is something related to what the python c module apt_pkg accesses, because apt_pkg.update hangs in the same way
[10:04] <erawfish> cwillu: which is why I said to use apt-get. your choice if you want to ignore me. since you do, so do I know. HAND
[10:04] <zenobius> ameet: your soundcard is a creative soundblaster you said?
[10:04] <bullgard4> mosno: yes, please.
[10:04] <zetheroo> sleshy: I have a screenlet which shows the RAM and Swap Memory ... and the swap only has 1% used.... and my Ram is sitting at 47%
[10:04] <compwiz18> zetheroo, ideally, you would have enough ram that no swap is used
[10:04] <sleshy> There have always been security issues with the way windows implements disk memory as all users can always access all of it. That's what I read erawfish is that wrong
[10:04] <erawfish> !repeat | zetheroo
[10:04] <ubotu> zetheroo: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:04] <dgjones> !id | ubuntu_newbie, Maybe this other channel will be able to help
[10:04] <ubotu> ubuntu_newbie, Maybe this other channel will be able to help: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[10:04] <erawfish> sleshy: wrong
[10:04]  * ubuntu_newbie new in UBUNTU, need more help
[10:04] <Josiah> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-songbird-music-player-in-ubuntu.html#more-105
[10:05] <zetheroo> compwiz18: : I have 2 GB of RAM..... why is my swap being used?
[10:05] <ameet> I din
[10:05] <ameet> I have a DELL Inspiron 1501
[10:05] <ameet> in built card
[10:05] <mosno> bullgard4: man 7 locale
[10:05] <Josiah> mt
[10:05] <erawfish> !enter | ameet
[10:05] <sleshy> why do you say that erawfish the reason I read - that it's not fixed by default - or it's dynamic as MS says - made sense to me?
[10:05] <ubotu> ameet: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:05] <ubuntu_newbie> thx josiah, i found it
[10:05] <mosno> bullgard4: C is the "default" locale
[10:05] <goldsniper> huh
[10:05] <mosno> how was bullgard4's question offtopic?
[10:06] <Josiah> ubuntu_newbie: no problemo
[10:06] <goldsniper> i try to read and open the synaptic
[10:06] <goldsniper> i dont understand
[10:06] <goldsniper> how can i install firefox? please help
[10:06] <AzMoo> Hey. I finally got around to upgrading my PC, so I took the opportunity to finally install gutsy on my desktop. I'm impressed with the ease of installation. Anyway, Compiz is clearly installed, but where can I configure it?
[10:06] <ubuntu_newbie> dgjones: only few peoples in that channel
[10:06] <zenobius> goldsniper: see that search field up top? type firefox in it
[10:06] <cwillu> goldsniper, firefox should already be installed;  click applications | internet |firefox
[10:06] <erawfish> open synaptic, look for firefox there. install it
[10:07] <compwiz18> zetheroo, probably becasue the swappiness in your computer is set to swap stuff out: see http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management
[10:07] <erawfish> !ccsm | AzMoo
[10:07] <ubotu> AzMoo: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[10:07] <sleshy> goldsniper isn't it there by default?
[10:07] <cwillu> goldsniper, if not, go to applications | add/remove, type in firefox, and go from there
[10:07] <compwiz18> zetheroo, sorry, the swappiness value in the kernel, not the computer :D
[10:07] <goldsniper> erawfish, i already got firefox version 2.0.6 installed
[10:07] <AzMoo> erawfish: Winner! Thanks.
[10:07] <dgjones> ubuntu_newbie, it was worth a try, they at least are likely to be local to where you live
[10:07] <erawfish> goldsniper: then run it
[10:07] <zenobius> ameet: looking at this page for reference and clues for further leads : http://www.linlap.com/wiki/Dell+Inspiron+1501
[10:07] <goldsniper> i just download a new firefox version 2.0.11
[10:07] <dgrant_> the compiz memory leak makes compiz totally unusable
[10:07] <Josiah> AzMoo:  goto system > preferences > and its called advanced desktop effects settings
[10:08] <erawfish> !wireless | ameet
[10:08] <ubotu> ameet: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:08] <goldsniper> how to run, erawfish
[10:08] <cwillu> goldsniper, you probably don't want to download it from firefox.com;  ubuntu contains repositories which handle updates automatically
[10:08] <sleshy> erawfish what did you mean about the windows swap file - I still didnt get your reason?
[10:08] <Johnny_5> i hate synaptic...i used it once for picasa2 on my laptop and now picasa2 doesn't work right...no on for now i use the regular add/remove applications for my downloading needs and if that doesn't work i apt-get install whatever i need...
[10:08] <erawfish> ameet: you have two choices for a driver, ndiswrapper or bcm43xx with the fw-cutter. both have tons of howtos
[10:08] <AzMoo> Josiah: cheers.
[10:08] <goldsniper> ooo?
[10:08] <cwillu> goldsniper, if you just recently installed ubuntu from a cd, there should be a bunch of updates that can be applied;  firefox 2.0.0.11 is among them iirc
[10:08] <zetheroo> compwiz18:: is that how it should be?
[10:08] <Josiah> AzMoo: downum :)
[10:09] <compwiz18> zetheroo, it's probably fine as it is, yes
[10:09] <erawfish> sleshy: it's OT, but: on windows, just like on linux, only root cann access said file. on winodws not even a root using program since windows locks files that are in use
[10:09] <goldsniper> i just installed ubuntu 7.10
[10:09] <zenobius> ameet: bad news looks like you going to have to compile drivers
[10:09] <white_eagle> I want to install something, but when I try to install it it says that it cannot get the exclusive lock, and I am sure I have nothing else running in background, so I restarted the X server (logged off, then logged back on) and the same happened?!!
[10:09] <zenobius> ameet: http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/12/getting-sound-to-work-on-your-ubuntu.html
[10:09] <erawfish> zenobius: no
[10:09] <cwillu> goldsniper, okay;  do you see a little yellow star'ish thing in the top right corner near the clock?
[10:09] <ameet> wow that would be fun
[10:09] <sleshy> erawfish are you talking about Vista cos i'm sure that isn't true on XP?
[10:09] <goldsniper> hmm... so, .......:-(
[10:10] <erawfish> sleshy: any NT based OS
[10:10] <goldsniper> yellow
[10:10] <white_eagle> help please
[10:10] <sleshy> Anyway I'll drop it but I have read that in several places
[10:10] <zenobius> erawfish: deferring
[10:10] <cwillu> goldsniper, okay, click on that, tell it to install all updates
[10:10]  * zenobius sits to one side
[10:10] <compwiz18> white_eagle, did you terminate a working package manager at some point?
[10:10] <cwillu> goldsniper, it'll grind for a while (downloading a bunch of stuff, and then installing it);  once it's done, close firefox and reopen it, and you'll be running the latest version
[10:10] <goldsniper> cwillu, i dont have it?
[10:10] <zetheroo> is there such a thing in Linux as having to maintain your RAM?... like in Windows?
[10:10] <white_eagle> compwiz18, yes
[10:10] <erawfish> sleshy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51541/
[10:10] <avi_me> how do I check via command line what ubuntu version I have ?
[10:11] <dgjones> !version | avi_me
[10:11] <ubotu> avi_me: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[10:11] <cwillu> goldsniper, do you have any icons up there?
[10:11] <compwiz18> white_eagle, there's your problem.  you need to remove the lock file, hang on, I'll get ya a link
[10:11] <erawfish> zenobius: while broadcom setup is not trivial, ther is no compiling involved
[10:11] <goldsniper> whahttp://getfirefox.com/releases/ yellow starish thing?
[10:11] <zenobius> erawfish: ameet needs sound too.
[10:11] <Johnny_5> i'm just curious...r there any other skins for rhythmbox or is there just the one it comes w/
[10:11] <cwillu> goldsniper, no
[10:11] <ubuntu_newbie> i want have a friend who now and expert in ubuntu, Arie Indonesia my phone number +627518230885
[10:11] <compwiz18> ameet, what version broadcom card do you ahve?
[10:11] <avi_me> dgjones, thanks
[10:11] <erawfish> zenobius: ok, that might need an alsa compile. ati chipsets: evil. didn't see that
[10:11] <cwillu> goldsniper, okay, go to |system | administration | update manager
[10:11] <ameet> i dun have a problem with wireless
[10:11] <goldsniper> ok..wait a minute
[10:11] <cinemagoo> anyone familar with network pxe booting the os
[10:11] <erawfish> compwiz18: he has a 1390
[10:12] <ubuntu_newbie> i want have a friend who now and expert in ubuntu, Arie Indonesia my phone number +627518230885/
[10:12] <zenobius> Johnny_5: for skinned music players try the skins2 for vlc, its quite awesome.
[10:12] <goldsniper> ok..done cwillu
[10:12] <cwillu> goldsniper, click check
[10:12] <white_eagle> compwiz18, tell me please
[10:12] <Johnny_5> k
[10:12] <zenobius> Johnny_5: also i fyou want winamp visualisation studio, adacious has a clone
[10:12] <sleshy> erawfish thanks I must admit I've never been able to reproduce it either. Maybe it's an urban myth :)
[10:12] <white_eagle> how to fix that
[10:12] <goldsniper> yes clicked check
[10:12] <Johnny_5> k
[10:12] <cwillu> goldsniper, when that's done, click install updates
[10:12] <zenobius> johnny_5: adacious is also highly skinnable
[10:12] <zetheroo> is there such a thing in Linux as having to maintain your RAM?... like in Windows?
[10:12] <sleshy> or a cyber myth :)
[10:13] <Johnny_5> so nothing for rhythmbox?
[10:13] <goldsniper> i cant click install updates..its grey out
[10:13] <cwillu> zetheroo, there isn't really in windows either
[10:13] <erawfish> zenobius: an OS always has to "Maintain RAM" aka do memory management. it's its job. what an OS does
[10:13] <zetheroo> cwillu: sure there is
[10:13] <cwillu> zetheroo, there's such a thing as fragmentation, but there's little you can do as a user (or any third party program)
[10:13] <zenobius> zetheroo: mmm, many things that you have come to take as "industry standrasd" when using windows is actually a afterthought due to micorosft not implementing certain feature at the first version of windows
[10:13] <cinemagoo> ubuntu_newbie:  you from indonesia?
[10:13] <goldsniper> why is it grey out?
[10:14] <Johnny_5> zenobius: is adacious anything like rhythmbox?
[10:14] <zenobius> Johnny_5: its a clone of winamp 2.91
[10:14] <cwillu> goldsniper, are you sure you're not already running 2.0.0.11?
[10:14] <zenobius> or rather a lighter improved version of xmms
[10:14] <goldsniper> yes
[10:14] <sleshy> This channel is a lot more international than the Freenode one. I like that, but I have to go now seeya later
[10:14] <Johnny_5> ah...much like xmms...
[10:14] <cwillu> goldsniper, greyed out would usually mean that you're up to date (assuming everything else is working properly)
[10:14] <zetheroo> cwillu: I have had to always have a RAM app running to clear the RAM of unnecessarily used space
[10:14] <white_eagle> anyone knows how can I install software again ? :(((
[10:15] <zenobius> Johnny_5: if you want a itunes like player i recommend : listen and gMusicBrowser
[10:15] <zetheroo> cwillu: Windows seems to be really archaic in that area
[10:15] <erawfish> zenobius: this doesn't work well, either in windows or in linux. and no linux doesn't need it
[10:15] <cwillu> zetheroo, gah;  unfortunately, that's not the case;  those utilities are not really doing anything useful
[10:15] <compwiz18> white_eagle, if you are absolutely sure there is no other package manager running (and I take no responsibility for this command or what it does) run --> sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock-broken <-- then try installing your program
[10:15] <zenobius> erawfish: ?
[10:15] <erawfish> zetheroo: it's not. just criminals selling useless software
[10:15] <goldsniper> clicked HELP-About Mozilla Firefox-- version 2.0.0.6
[10:15] <cwillu> zetheroo, they tend to force caches to be emptied (increases the free space, but you don't actually want completely unused free space)
[10:15] <erawfish> zetheroo: this RAM program thing is snakeoil. useless
[10:15] <Johnny_5> k
[10:15] <cwillu> zetheroo, short answer is no, and no under windows either
[10:15] <zetheroo> cwillu: why not?
[10:16] <cwillu> zetheroo, completely free memory is wasted memory
[10:16] <white_eagle> compwiz18, I told you, I logged off and logged back in, and it still couldn't get the exclusive loc
[10:16] <goldsniper> is anything wrong with my ubuntu?
[10:16] <erawfish> zetheroo: cause caches is good. and free ram is very bad
[10:16] <erawfish> free ram is wasted ram
[10:16] <cwillu> goldsniper, close firefox if you have it open, and reopen it (including any download windows, etc)
[10:16] <cwillu> goldsniper, and then open the about page
[10:16] <Lcark> Hello, I have XAMPP installed, can someone tell me how can I do to have also ASP working?
[10:17] <goldsniper> cwillu: okay...done
[10:17] <zetheroo> cwillu: not if its full of old data that should have automatically "ejected" itself when the corresponding application closed
[10:17] <cinemagoo> anyone know about booting os from network.  pls anyone hellp!!!
[10:17] <erawfish> Lcark: why don't you use ubuntu apache?
[10:17] <cwillu> zetheroo, yes, even in that case
[10:17] <erawfish> zetheroo: wrong
[10:17] <white_eagle> compwiz18, thanks very much
[10:17] <cwillu> zetheroo, cached memory can be repurposed for effectively no cost whatsoever
[10:17] <goldsniper> still version 2.0.0.6
[10:17] <murch> whats the best way to convert a dvd size mdf image to an iso file
[10:17] <Lcark> erawfish I needed also a ftp server and XAMPP installed it for me
[10:17] <cwillu> goldsniper, is it connected to the internet right now?
[10:17] <CyberMad> !sbackup
[10:17] <ubotu> sbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe
[10:18] <cwillu> goldsniper, and is there any chance you've disabled the security update repository by accident?
[10:18] <VSpike> zetheroo: even in Windows, apps haven't really leaked memory like that since Windows 2000/XP
[10:18] <erawfish> Lcark: ubuntu has about half a dozen ftp servers too
[10:18] <zetheroo> cwillu: I don't understand then.... where is the logic in having 2 GB of RAM and thus having half of it free ?... if its going to be "bad" as you say?
[10:18] <zenobius> zethroo: we really need some links to docs that explain how windows an linux manage memory and diskspace differently from each other
[10:18] <Lcark> erawfish is it easier to make ASP working on ubuntu apache?
[10:18] <CyberMad> !cloning
[10:18] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[10:18] <CyberMad> !backup
[10:18] <cwillu> zetheroo, memory being free because you haven't actually accessed 2gb worth of material is a somewhat different case, but you don't gain any performance from it being free
[10:18] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[10:18] <goldsniper> err... i think so..im using it
[10:19] <CyberMad> !rsync
[10:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rsync - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:19] <erawfish> zenobius: they don't. they pretty much do the same thing, only that Linux isn't so lock happy for used files. that's the biggest difference
[10:19] <cwillu> zetheroo, if there was an effective way to preload 2gb of cache, it would
[10:19] <zenobius> Lcark: you realise asp is microsoft land? active server pages
[10:19] <goldsniper> im connected to the internet, using pidgin to be here
[10:19] <dgjones> goldsniper, when you clicked on the check updates button, did it list any updates?
[10:19] <cwillu> goldsniper, okay, go the system|administration| synaptic
[10:19] <Josiah> zetheroo: think its better to have windows read a networked external hard drive with ext3 or ntfs... which would be better for both system i guess is my question... hard drive being ext3 or ntfs
[10:19] <zetheroo> cwillu: well if I did not have 2 GB of RAM I would have a definit problem with performance
[10:19] <Johnny_5> cinemagoo: r u talking about rebooting a box from another box in the network?
[10:19] <zetheroo> cwillu: so yes I am gaining "power" from having more RAM
[10:19] <Lcark> zenobius yes, but i have apache, and a client needed to use ASP, so im trying to put ASP on apche
[10:19] <goldsniper> cwillu :okay
[10:19] <erawfish> Josiah: doesn't really matter
[10:19] <zenobius> Lcark: hence to run it you need to have in place a package which may not exist in future due to litigation by the microsoftians
[10:20] <cwillu> zetheroo, only so far as you're using enough applications and data that you need 2gb to keep it all in memory
[10:20] <zetheroo> Josiah: I never said I would rather have Windows
[10:20] <zenobius> Lcarkthere is packages in repos for it
[10:20] <zetheroo> cwillu: exactly
[10:20] <erawfish> zenobius: you gain power by having more tam. you get negative power from constantly "freeing" (something that is impossible btw)
[10:20] <cwillu> zetheroo, the biggest gain from memory is being able to keep disk in memory
[10:20] <VSpike> Lcark: do you mean asp or asp.net?
[10:20] <Josiah> zetheroo: lol.. thats not what i ment... thank you erawfish
[10:21] <Lcark> VSpike im not really sure
[10:21] <cwillu> goldsniper, now, scroll down to firefox, and tell me the installed version (the whole thing, it'll be about 30-40 letters long)
[10:21] <zenobius> Lcark: asp.net is  C sharp, which requires mono
[10:21] <goldsniper> dgjones: i click check but no updates listed
[10:21] <VSpike> Lcark: you can run asp.net http://www.mono-project.com/ASP.NET
[10:21] <goldsniper> cwillu : wait
[10:21] <VSpike> Lcark: ironically asp may be harder
[10:21] <zenobius> lcark : sudo apt-cache search asp | grep apache
[10:22] <Johnny_5> cinemagoo: r u talking about rebooting a box from another box in the network?
[10:22] <zenobius> lcark: dont use gutsy
[10:22] <zetheroo> cwillu: I dunno ... it just seemed that under Windows 512 MB of RAM went no where fast.... and then when I used Cacheman or RAMfree.... this were moving faster and progs were loading faster....
[10:22] <erawfish> Johnny_5: he talks about network booting obviously
[10:22] <Agent_bob> can anyone here elp me get a linux router to work bi-dirrectional   i have one way connections but the other way can't see nuffin'
[10:22] <erawfish> !pxe
[10:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pxe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:22] <Lcark> zenobius I use the last version of Xbuntu
[10:22] <zetheroo> cwillu: In Linux there seems to be no problem with this though
[10:22] <erawfish> Agent_bob: install ipmasq
[10:22] <Josiah> anybody played stalker on ubuntu? if so how does it run?
[10:22] <jin> hi
[10:22] <cwillu> zetheroo, when you use a 'ram freeing' program, you're forcing the os to reload things from disk instead of having it already in memory (which is the most common case)
[10:22] <Lcark> VSpike are .aspx files ASP or ASP.net?
[10:23] <VSpike> Lcark: asp.net
[10:23] <bullgard4> mosno: Thank you very much for your help.
[10:23] <zetheroo> cwillu: seems that in Linux even 512MB of RAM goes a long way
[10:23] <jin> how do you add custom launchers to AWN?
[10:23] <Agent_bob> erawfish using it  but it's uni-dirrectional
[10:23] <zenobius> Lcark: got all repos opened? (main restricted universe multiverse)
[10:23] <goldsniper> installed version : 2.0.0.6-2nobinonly-0ubuntu1
[10:23] <Jakes> Hi there - anyone know of an HTTP app that can authenticate via some unique RSA device/key to then gain access to servers via SSH,RDP,etc and have features of saving sessions in video with playback and other people viewing current sessions if authenticated?  Just wondering if software like this existed somewhere or if developing in house is the only option.
[10:23] <nawty> Hi Guys, I've recently put dapper on a server (only install i had) and then i've upgraded it to edgy, feisty, gutsy
[10:23] <cwillu> zetheroo, what you might have seen is a fairly recent change in firefox's behaviour on windows
[10:23] <zenobius> jin: drag from menu or desktop and drop on bar
[10:23] <erawfish> Agent_bob: define "unidirectional". be more specific
[10:23] <nawty> and in there, it now doesn't boot, the old kernel boots, but the new ones dont..
[10:23] <goldsniper> latest version is the same
[10:23] <cwillu> goldsniper, okay, now go to settings | repositories
[10:23] <goldsniper> :-(
[10:24] <erawfish> Jakes: this doesn't exist over http and it would be crap too if used ovre http
[10:24] <nawty> essentially seems to not be able to find the boot device, but it's there when i 'ls' from the initramfs
[10:24] <zetheroo> cwillu:  well I have not used Windows on any of my PC's for about a year... so I would not know how a new version of Firefox runs in Windows
[10:24] <nawty> any ideas? (sorry about the multiline)
[10:24] <vlt> Josiah: hmmm, converting the document at docs.google.com means it has to leave my pc which is not possible. How can I convert it locally on my ubuntu pc?
[10:24] <goldsniper> ok..done
[10:24] <Johnny_5> cinemagoo: just ssh in the box u want to reboot then sudo reboot
[10:24] <Agent_bob> erawfish from the 192.168.1.0/24 lan i can access anything on the 192.168.0.0/24 lan   but not the other way around.
[10:24] <cwillu> goldsniper, now go to the updates tab
[10:24] <Josiah> vlt: no internet access?
[10:24] <goldsniper> ok..done
[10:24] <erawfish> Agent_bob: why do you have two private subnets?
[10:24] <cwillu> goldsniper, under ubuntu updates, gutsy-security and gutsy-updates should both be selected, right?
[10:24] <Agent_bob> erawfish there is a single linux box with two eth cards between them.
[10:24] <zenobius> vlt: what are you trying to convert? and to what format?
[10:25] <Josiah> docx to doc
[10:25] <loodjuret> anyone here who creates music in ubuntu? what software is recommended?
[10:25] <erawfish> Agent_bob: your setup is not where one uses NAT
[10:25] <gurth4ng> how do i install KDE4 in ubuntu 7.10? by installing kde4base from Synaptic?
[10:25] <vlt> Josiah: No, but it's sensitive data.
[10:25] <goldsniper> huh..none is checked
[10:25] <erawfish> !kde4
[10:25] <ubotu> kde4 is KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information, please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://tinyurl.com/2gqwmr - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[10:25] <Agent_bob> erawfish i know.  so how do i get it to work ?
[10:25] <tarelerul2> How do you tell how much space a black cd has ?  It is not on the cd itself
[10:25] <vlt> zenobius: I try to convert .docx to something readable
[10:25] <goldsniper> huh...none is checked
[10:25] <cwillu> zetheroo, if you ran firefox under windows, they recently changed it to not trim its working set in a few important cases, which resulted in artificially high memory pressure.  a 'memory freeing
[10:25] <Josiah> vlt: ah ok at least you have net access... ok one sec
[10:25] <erawfish> Agent_bob: by bridging thw two cards instead. no NAT
[10:26] <vlt> zenobius: docx seems to be MS's new "open" format
[10:26] <zenobius> Josiah: ahhh "open" as in you can come in but cant leave
[10:26] <cwillu> zetheroo, memory freeing app' would force firefox out of memory, which is worse than necessary, but may have improved the overall performance (there's a setting in the firefox about:config page to change the behaviour)
[10:26] <Agent_bob> erawfish i'm all ears.  but pretty network illiterate.   avid console user tho.
[10:26] <erawfish> erUSUL: alternatively simply enabling ip forwarding
[10:26] <gurth4ng> how do i install KDE4 in ubuntu 7.10? by installing kde4base from Synaptic?
[10:26] <erawfish> Agent_bob:  alternatively simply enabling ip forwarding
[10:26] <cwillu> zetheroo, firefox 3.0 (upcoming) has some changes which should largely solve the problem
[10:26] <cwillu> goldsniper, okay, that's your problem :p
[10:26] <loodjuret> "...scheduled for release on 11 January 2008". coming today?
[10:26] <zenobius> vlt: just wait till micorosft unleash the trusted computing facism they have waiting in vista
[10:26] <Agent_bob> erawfish that doesn't work.  or i couldn't get it to
[10:27] <cwillu> goldsniper, when you installed it, I'm guessing you told it not to install updates at some point by accident
[10:27] <zetheroo> cwillu: ok yeah... I remember the memory issues with Firefox...
[10:27] <cwillu> goldsniper, check off security and updates
[10:27] <erawfish> Agent_bob: what doesn't?
[10:27] <Josiah> zenobius: lol. and you dont have office im guessing. can you install apps via wine?
[10:27] <Agent_bob> erawfish just enabling ip_forwarding
[10:27] <goldsniper> ok done...
[10:27] <vlt> zenobius: And then?
[10:27] <cwillu> goldsniper, and then click close.  it'll tell you to reload, so click the reload button
[10:27] <zenobius> Josiah: i only use windows2000 for wow, and nothing else.
[10:27] <Josiah> sorry ment that for vlt
[10:28] <goldsniper> yweaaaa.. its downloading now
[10:28] <cwillu> zetheroo, there's a similar issue on linux with firefox, but again, that'll go away with hardy (which has firefox 3.0)
[10:28] <cwillu> goldsniper, sweet :)
[10:28] <goldsniper> thanks a lot... u guys are great
[10:28] <zenobius> vlt: it like hte next level of source code lockin, but with gpg keys or something similar, only the vendor releases them at a high cost,
[10:28] <vlt> Josiah: I _have_ Office. OpenOffice.org
[10:28] <cwillu> goldsniper, once it's done, you should see the star thingy I mentioned
[10:28] <zetheroo> cwillu: cool
[10:28] <Agent_bob> erawfish that doesn't work.  or i couldn't get it to.  you have to have some iptables rules to forward the traffic of just turning on ip_forwarding does me no good at all.    but again if you can tell me how. i'll try it.
[10:28] <goldsniper> i was told by my friend that linux community is very helpful...
[10:28] <cwillu> goldsniper, just close synaptic and click on that (or open the update manager I mentioned before), and click install updates
[10:28] <glenn> hi
[10:28] <gurth4ng> is KDE4 in the repos now?
[10:29] <zenobius> vlt: bling! http://thedailyblahblah.wordpress.com/2007/07/20/odf-docx-in-openoffice/
[10:29] <cwillu> goldsniper, it has it's moments, but on the whole its pretty good here :)
[10:29] <goldsniper> and yes... it iss.... you are very helpful
[10:29] <zetheroo> gurth4ng: no... you can add a repo though
[10:29] <mosno> bullgard4: no problem
[10:29] <Josiah> vlt: sorry was wondering if you had msoffice 2007: http://www.softpedia.com/get/Windows-Widgets/System-Utilities/Docx-Converter.shtml run that in wine
[10:29] <gurth4ng> oh, which repo is that?
[10:29] <nawty> Question: I've recently done an upgrade from dapper (through the releases with reboots until gutsy) and currently my gutsy install doesn't want to boot, the initramfs prompt pops up and it has a message about the /by-uuid/... being used, I've attempted to boot from /dev/hda3 and that seems to be unable to find the device. I've done an 'ls' in /dev/ and the devices are there. the original kernel still boots, ideas?
[10:29] <erawfish> Agent_bob: iptables -L
[10:29] <cwillu> now, having complimented the community, anybody run into synaptic's pref page hanging for no apparent reason?
[10:30] <goldsniper> huh...51 updates
[10:30] <Agent_bob> erawfish you want that pastebin'd ?
[10:30] <erawfish> Agent_bob: if the policy is accept, you don't need any iptables rules
[10:30] <cwillu> goldsniper, sounds about right
[10:30] <gurth4ng> zetheroo: do u know which repo i should add?
[10:30] <QuantumKenny> UBUNTU ROCKS
[10:30] <goldsniper> cwillu..im waiting for the updates to finish
[10:30] <Josiah> vlt:  or this might help http://www.sigmundvoid.com/?p=81
[10:31] <goldsniper> about 8 minutes :-D
[10:31] <moidekar> cwillu, had that prob on 6.10 + updates, don't know what borked it, but all my admin apps stopped working - frozen screens
[10:31] <Josiah> vlt:  makes openoffice docx compatible :)
[10:31] <elig> hi all out there
[10:31] <kirk> someone killall bash'd you
[10:31] <zenobius> joshia : nice one buva
[10:31] <zetheroo> gurth4ng: let me see if I can find them
[10:31] <cwillu> moidekar, what other screens did it lock up on do you remember?
[10:31] <zenobius> joshia: omg...ignore me
[10:32] <nawty> Alas, i seem to be the only poor soul with the ultimate question :P
[10:32] <cwillu> Josiah, I think it may still be an open problem
[10:32] <cwillu> Josiah, let me look for a sec
[10:32] <Josiah> zenobius: sorry mate... spell my name right and i wont ignore :)
[10:32] <moidekar> cwillu: network tools and software sources, sum and bum
[10:32] <roky> can someone help me out, Somehow I lost all my buttons on the top right of my windows, to be able to exit out and minimize and things of that sort how do I fix this?
[10:32] <zenobius> kek
[10:32] <zenobius> /facepalm
[10:32] <Agent_bob> erawfish let me get on a box on the other side of the linux router box  so i can mess with it without loosing connection here.
[10:32] <gurth4ng> zetheroo: thx a lot, i'm trying but i dindt have much luck so far :)
[10:32] <raztha> ae
[10:32] <cwillu> moidekar, did they lock up when you opened them, or when you tried to close them?
[10:33] <zenobius> Josiah: ima grab that too, all i need now is a filemaker pro import for openoffice base
[10:33] <roky> can someone help me out, Somehow I lost all my buttons on the top right of my windows, to be able to exit out and minimize and things of that sort how do I fix this?
[10:33] <goldsniper> cwillu : that yellow starish icon just popped out
[10:33] <Josiah> roky: just hit ctrl+alt+del from now on :)
[10:33] <roky> I tried that
[10:34] <cwillu> Josiah, http://download.novell.com/SummaryFree.jsp?buildid=ESrjfdE4U58%7E is rumoured to have a linux docx converted;  haven't tried it though, so fair warning
[10:34] <jin> what ftp client can I use on Ubuntu? it seems I can't copy files to my ftp account via the gnome connect to server feature.
[10:34] <Josiah> roky: top right bar? like the time search network sound user power everything?
[10:34] <Agent_bob> erawfish http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d12a2c1ea that's what i have right now.
[10:34] <moidekar> cwillu: no hard and fast rule: Network tools would display an initial screen, but no controls on it - freeze apparently occurred somewhere in init. Software Sources whenever I tried to switch tabs (initial display was OK)... don't rem abt the others - it was around 3 months ago
[10:34] <Josiah> cwillu: not I that needs it... vlt does
[10:34] <roky> josiah: no like the buttons you use to exit out of apps, and minimize out of them
[10:34] <cwillu> vlt^^^
[10:34] <zenobius> jin: can use a extension for firefox or gftp
[10:35] <Josiah> cwillu: ah :) lol
[10:35] <Agent_bob> erawfish most of that was automaticly set by ipmasq
[10:35] <erawfish> Agent_bob: all unecessary as I told you. and you want to have the policy ACCEPT in the forward chain
[10:35] <erawfish> Agent_bob: I know
[10:35] <Agent_bob> so i kill ipmasq dump all rules and  ???
[10:36] <cwillu> moidekar, hmm;  doesn't seem to be the same issue, but thanks for the thought
[10:36] <erawfish> Agent_bob: as long as ipmasq is active you cannot reach your goal
[10:36] <zetheroo> gurth4ng: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/12/18/how-to-install-kde-4-rc-2-in-ubuntu/
[10:36] <Agent_bob> erawfish like i said i can kill.   but then what ?
[10:36] <Josiah> roky: in everything or just firefox?
[10:36] <goldsniper> ok... now is the any good games for ubuntu?
[10:36] <roky> josiah: every windows
[10:36] <erawfish> you set the FORWARD policy correctly and enable ip_forward
[10:36] <goldsniper> like need for speed
[10:36] <roky> every windows*
[10:37] <roky> window*
[10:37] <Josiah> roky: ok one sec
[10:37] <moidekar> cwillu, no probs - wouldn't have been able to help anyhow :-( since I jumped ship to MDV 2008 PP for the interim, and am now on 7.04 which seems to work OK so far.
[10:37] <roky> josiah: k
[10:37] <Agent_bob> erawfish how do i "set the FORWARD policy correctly" ?
[10:37] <Josiah> cwillu: did you get it converted? and did you see my openoffice post not the application post?
[10:37] <gurth4ng> zetheroo: thx very much :)
[10:38] <zetheroo> gurth4ng: sure
[10:38] <vlt> Josiah, cwillu: Thank you. What license is there for the novell tool? GPL?
[10:38] <erawfish> by setting the iptables default policy for the forward chain. why do have the say the same thing over and over again. /me stops doing it now
[10:38] <cwillu> Josiah, sorry, I just came in halfway;  I don't have to support any ms software anymore, so I haven't run into any docx files yet, just knew they were an issue
[10:38] <zetheroo> gosh... is there really no simple way to record streaming audio!?
[10:38] <vlt> cwillu: Yes, that's my problem. I get more and more docx files.
[10:39] <Josiah> vlt:  i would guess its gpl
[10:39] <erawfish> zetheroo: depends a bit on the straming audio
[10:39] <Agent_bob> erawfish so if you don't know.  you could just say so.
[10:39] <cwillu> lol
[10:39] <goldsniper> installing updates.. huh 1 hour..is this right?????????
[10:39] <Josiah> vlt: im guessing they are not going to look exactly the same after conversion btw
[10:39] <zetheroo> erawfish: just internet radio type thing
[10:39] <vlt> Josiah: Shouldn't it be attached to it then?
[10:39] <krim> goldsniper: Depends on how fast your connection is
[10:39] <roky> zetheroo: there is a plugin mozilla offers too record streaming audio, its very simple
[10:39] <erawfish> Agent_bob: I am just not doing your work. look it up. man iptables is a nice manpage
[10:39] <nymtar> hi there
[10:39]  * cwillu pity's erawfish for a brief moment
[10:39] <Josiah> vlt:  yeah.. im looking it up
[10:39] <goldsniper> how to check hw fast my connection?
[10:40] <dgjones> goldsniper, it could be right, depends on download speed, and speed of the computer, if there's lots of updates then its quite possible
[10:40] <cwillu> Agent_bob, have you been following any guides?
[10:40] <Josiah> vlt:  its for suse though
[10:40] <roky> goldsniper  http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest
[10:40] <vlt> goldsniper: send packets and measure how many go through in what time.
[10:40] <Agent_bob> erawfish man iptables sucks totally.   and i have been there and am there now.  but that doesn't help much.
[10:40] <goldsniper> im using core 2 with 2gig ram
[10:40] <Josiah> vlt: "the odf-converter-1.0.0-5.i586.rpm file works only on SUSE® Linux Enterprise, SUSE Linux, and openSUSE. On both platforms, the OpenXML Translator works only with the latest Novell® edition of OpenOffice.org.
[10:40] <cwillu> goldsniper, it's tough for the computer to know beyond what the download rate shows;  there's websites you can go to which will measure it, but it won't be accurate while you're downloading the updates anyways
[10:41] <nymtar> lshw shows me "network:0 DISABLED" for the intern Prism 2.5 WLAN-card, anyone knows how to activate it?
[10:41] <cwillu> Agent_bob, may I suggest firestarter or similar?
[10:41] <Agent_bob> cwillu several.  but nothing seems to be for what i am actually trying to do    it all seems to be for a one way gate
[10:41] <cwillu> Agent_bob, lets back up;  what are you trying to accomplish?
[10:41] <Agent_bob> cwillu firestarter is for a one way gate
[10:41] <Josiah> vlt:  http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/89718/index.html
[10:41] <vlt> nymtar: Still trying to get that prism card working?
[10:41] <VSpike> Can anyone help?  I have to use Thunderbird for mail, but I really miss a notification area or panel new mail notifier, especially when using multiple desktops...  I need a biff or mail checker that can work either with IMAP or Maildir++ but it needs to be able to detect mail in any folder as I use maildrop to route mail to folders
[10:41] <goldsniper> hmmm
[10:42] <cwillu> goldsniper, what type of internet do you have?
[10:42] <vlt> goldsniper: dd and nc are nice tools I use for this.
[10:42] <moidekar> Agent_bob, why not try shorewall? (unless the gurus here have objections)
[10:42] <Agent_bob> cwillu i have two lan's   with a linux box between.   i want seemless connections between the two
[10:42] <nymtar> yeah, vlt, still .. i dumped the xubuntu-installation with my sins for configuring the motorola cardbus-card
[10:42] <roky> Josiah: still there?
[10:42] <cwillu> Agent_bob, what subnets are they on?
[10:42] <goldsniper> broadband 1mib
[10:42] <vlt> goldsniper: and iftop is a fine one.
[10:42] <goldsniper> i think
[10:42] <erawfish> Agent_bob: straight from the manpage:  -P, --policy chain target
[10:42] <Josiah> roky: oh shit lol sorry mate one sec
[10:42] <Agent_bob> moidekar i have it's no help here.
[10:42] <nymtar> new xubuntu, and no prism card enabled :/
[10:42] <roky> josiah: lol it's cool
[10:43] <goldsniper> dd?
[10:43] <zetheroo> roky: can you suggest one?
[10:43] <Agent_bob> cwillu 192.168.1.0/24 and 192.168.0.0/24
[10:43] <roky> zetheroo: not of the top of my head and atm im kinda stuck in one window lmao
[10:43] <krim> goldsniper: That's your speed then, 1 megabit per second = 0.125 megabytes per second.
[10:43] <spanther> what is better? 32 or 64bit of ubuntu ?
[10:44] <spanther> have nvidia notebook
[10:44] <erawfish> !better | spanther
[10:44] <ubotu> spanther: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[10:44] <goldsniper> ooo...
[10:44] <goldsniper> ok...
[10:44] <roky> spanther: depends if you have 32 or 64 bit notebook
[10:44] <Kalamansi-Lunch> hello how to know if iptables is installed to my ubuntu 7.10 desktop? (fresh install)
[10:44] <Josiah> roky:  are you using metacity?
[10:44] <goldsniper> i'll wait for the updates to finish
[10:44] <erawfish> Kalamansi-Lunch: it is.
[10:44] <roky> josiah: yeah
[10:44] <Josiah> or have you installed berly or anything... ok in term type metacity
[10:44] <spanther> roky its intel Core2Duo T5200 with 1gb ddr2 and geforce7600go 128mb a toshiba satellite a100-00a but i want to play videos with codecs too and have 3D enabled
[10:45] <VSpike> spanther: you should probably use 32-bit unless you have a specific reason to use 64 bit
[10:45] <goldsniper> in windows i have this cfosspeed software to speed up my internet
[10:45] <Kalamansi> erawfish : is it installed? ~$ iptables
[10:45] <Kalamansi> iptables v1.3.6: no command specified
[10:45] <Kalamansi> Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information.
[10:45] <goldsniper> is the any adequate software for ubuntu?
[10:45] <Kvark> Ubuntu can't connect to the Internet after a reboot or after turning the computer off for a couple minutes but it just works perfectly when the computer has been off for a couple hours, Windows can always connect... I have the computer plugged directly into an RJ45 outlet in the wall with a network cable, get IP address from ISP's DHCP servers and resolve names from ISP's DNS servers
[10:45] <Josiah> roky:  or goto system-prefrences-desktop effects
[10:45] <spanther> VSpike isnt 32bit slower ?
[10:45] <krim> spanther: Go to the 64 bit section in ubuntu forums and read about the problems people have had with 64 bit. if those won't affect you choose whichever you like. I'm using 64 bit with no problems at all but you may have different needs.
[10:45] <erawfish> Kalamansi: I already told you
[10:45] <VSpike> spanther: those reasons might be that you need to support 4G of RAM or more, or that you have specific requirements for very large files or databases, or processing requirements that you know will benefit from 64 bit optimisations
[10:45] <roky> spanther: look at your proc and tell me if its 32 or 64, and 32 is not necesarily slower depends on hardware like everything else
[10:46] <roky> josiah: kk
[10:46] <krim> goldsniper: adequate software for what?
[10:46] <spanther> krim i want watch dvd play videos hearing music and browse websites
[10:46] <erawfish> roky: it's a c2d. of course it doest 64bit
[10:46] <nymtar> so no one with a hint for prism wavelan in a thinkpad?
[10:46] <goldsniper> krim cfosspeed
[10:46] <VSpike> spanther: you'd be hard pushed to notice any difference in the majority of standard desktop uses
[10:46] <erawfish> spanther: with 64bit, you will have problems with flash and acrobat
[10:46] <vlt> Kalamansi: iptables is installed by default.
[10:46] <Josiah> roky:  or you can right click on desktop tyr to change your wallpaper then switch to the visual effects tab then select the option to not use any effect at all
[10:46] <spanther> erawfish oh okay :( i need flash then i'll take 32bit
[10:46] <erawfish> !wireless | nymtar
[10:46] <ubotu> nymtar: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:47] <krim> spanther: all that will work fine. but as I said, it's best to read in the forums so you get what's right for you.
[10:47] <goldsniper> tranfers rate in update manager : 156 kB/s 21m2s remaining
[10:47] <roky> erawfish: there incorporating 64 bit now
[10:47] <chnaon> Hi, have problem with installing ubuntu on my asus laptop, tried both livecd and alternate cd, but the install freezes directly after choosing install ubuntu.. tried to remove quiet and splash from boot-options but still no luck, last thing I can see before it freezes is something about hpet, does anyone have any tips?
[10:47] <erawfish> roky: who is?
[10:47] <Josiah> roky: or if you cant do that in term type metacity --replace
[10:47] <Josiah> i can keep going until you get it fixed if you like :)
[10:48] <Kvark> roaming and dhcp mode behaves exactly the same, ifup and ifdown doesn't recognize my network card as eth0 which is what ifconfig calls it, i tried uncommenting the reboot line in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and got to keep the correct IP address instead of getting a local one but still couldn't connect
[10:48] <Kalamansi> vit erawfish : how to know if kernel is already installed to my fresh intalled ubuntu desktop 7.10? i ask this beacause i dont want to missed up with my iptables and etc.. i would like to install firewall using this http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:AtPU64owMoQJ:www.linuxexposed.com/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D107%26Itemid%3D54+gandalf+linux+stateful+firewall&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a
[10:48] <roky> josiah: what do you mean
[10:48] <bauer_> i use konversation to log on irc. How can i change the browser from quanta+ to firefox ?
[10:48] <Josiah> roky:  i can keep offering you solutions... i dont know which ones you can or cant do
[10:48] <Josiah> roky:  or did you already get it fixed
[10:48] <erawfish> Kalamansi: what do you need a firewall for?
[10:48] <roky> josiah: lol sorry....I just tryed changing themes and stuff and nothing happened
[10:49] <Josiah> roky:  ook goto system - preferences - appearance - visual effects - none
[10:49] <roky> josiah: yes there we go
[10:49] <roky> josiah: worked thanks :)
[10:49] <Josiah> :) np
[10:50] <roky> josiah: sometimes I hate being a noob all over again
[10:50] <Johnny_5> i go to bed now
[10:50] <Johnny_5> g'nite all
[10:50] <Kalamansi> erawfish : i want to block some other sites?creat or assign policies?
[10:50] <El_toni> hi
[10:50] <erawfish> Kalamansi: hosts.deny is good for that
[10:50] <goldsniper> ok.. im off... thanks a lot guys... nice support... i think im not making mistake switching to linux...( i hopes);-)
[10:50] <El_toni> there is some channel support for acpi?
[10:51] <Kalamansi> erawfish : this time im very careful. i dont want to reinstall again ubuntu.. before i did the internet sharing. then after i installed firestarter, pc2 cannot connect to the internet...
[10:51] <Josiah> roky: lol np... im still a noob too... i think you almost always remain a noob in this fast paced environment. i still dont know anything :(
[10:51] <krim> goldsniper: bye and good luck
[10:51] <erawfish> Kalamansi: if you want NAT, install ipmasq and be done
[10:51] <goldsniper> thanks krim
[10:51] <spanther> where does ubuntu store the wallpapers?
[10:51] <roky> josiah: lol, come to windows and I'll be an expert...here....jesus....I get screwed over lmao
[10:52] <Kalamansi> erawfish : any suggestions how to do that with cheat sheet? all i want is block 6667 irc ports and torrents sites. im afraid of malwares...internet sharing YES
[10:52] <white_eagle> is there any bandwith manager for ubuntu
[10:52] <Josiah> roky:  ah but it is so much better than windows once you get relearned... i think its harder for people coming over from a vast amount of windows knowledge to get ahong of it than it is for mac or new users
[10:52] <roky> oh it is trust me
[10:53] <roky> but its fun at the same time
[10:53] <roky> it's something new and exciting
[10:53] <roky> and a fun challenge in programming
[10:53] <moidekar> spanther, /usr/share/backgrounds/ what you want?
[10:53] <Josiah> vlt: in this article they are discussing the openxml and if it is gpl or not: http://blogs.zdnet.com/Berlind/?p=204
[10:53] <Bonster> is there a site for daily ubuntu tips?
[10:53] <VSpike> roky: I relate .. i switched about a year ago and spent about 6 months seesawing between elation and frustration :)
[10:53] <erawfish> Kalamansi: you cannot block irc and torrents in a meaningufl way. e.g. you can reach freenode on about half a dozen ports. 6667 is only one port
[10:53] <Josiah> vlt:  sorry dont feel like reading it
[10:53] <spanther> moidekar when i upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10 i've lost the old wallpaper from 7.04 :( i want to backup them now that i cant loose the older ones
[10:53] <white_eagle> is there any bandwith manager for ubuntu
[10:53] <erawfish> Kalamansi: same for torrents which can, and does, use ports all ovre the place since too man blocks
[10:54] <VSpike> roky: good for the brain and good for the soul though :)
[10:54] <roky> vspike: for sure bro....I love both honestly....
[10:54] <erawfish> Kalamansi: there is http://l7-filter.sourceforge.net/ however. but there is nothing premade for it
[10:54] <roky> vspike: Both have fun aspects :)
[10:54] <VSpike> Bonster: tombuntu has some good ones.  also look at http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/
[10:54] <Josiah> vlt:  it looks like its BSD not GPL
[10:55] <pa3dsc> wat betekent   "tdbsam"   ?
[10:55] <Josiah> vlt:  so Microsoft can take it proprietary (including any improvements that naive members of the community may make to it) any time it changes it - for example when it releases Word 2008 or Excel 2008
[10:55] <moidekar> spanther, look around /usr/share/backgrounds - or go to /usr/share and do a 'find . -name "*.jpg" ' to look for all JPEG images...
[10:55] <erawfish> !nl | pa3dsc
[10:55] <ubotu> pa3dsc: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[10:55] <Josiah> anyway im going to bed guy have a good night all
[10:55] <ChrisGibbs> Hi. Im having problems with dmraid. It works fine when i install it but when i reboot i get dumped into initramfs and it wont load Ubuntu. Any ideas? at the moment I can fix it by booting with the liveCD and chroot into my system and removing dmraid. I think its specifically something wrong with initramfs but i cant put my finger on it.
[10:56] <erawfish> pa3dsc: it's a way for samba to store passwords
[10:56] <Kalamansi> erawfish : okay.. so what can you suggest? all i want is to share internet to my cousin's pc2. pc1 server ubuntu 7.10 desktop have internet already...my only concerns also is that how to block those malwares if pc2 will download files or upload files
[10:56] <erawfish> Kalamansi: I already told you what's out there
[10:56] <white_eagle> is there any bandwith monitor for ubuntu
[10:56] <Malinth1> Help on Microtek Scanmaker 3840 on Gutsy!
[10:56] <erawfish> white_eagle: iptraf, ntop and loads of others
[10:56] <pa3dsc> erawfish: Thanks I see it in the doc concerning samba indeed.
[10:57] <moidekar> Kalamansi, you could maybe install squid on your system to provide caching as well as Net proxy to pc2. Filtering for malware isn't easy, though.
[10:57] <Shai_A> people, I installed ubuntu about 2 weeks ago, and since then flash isn't working. I know there is some issue with it and people are working on a fix, but why is it taking so long? I'm thinking about moving to OpenSUSE.
[10:57] <VSpike> Can anyone help?  I have to use Thunderbird for mail, but I really miss a notification area or panel new mail notifier, especially when using multiple desktops...  I need a biff or mail checker that can work either with IMAP or Maildir++ but it needs to be able to detect mail in any folder as I use maildrop to route mail to folders
[10:58] <roky> shai_A go download it manually from adobe
[10:58] <Kalamansi> erawfish : how to filter what they download when pc2 will download some files?
[10:58] <Flannel> Shai_A: It's adobe's file that is having the issues.  Nothing anyone non-adobe can do about it.
[10:58] <erawfish> Kalamansi: I told you about l7-filter already
[10:58] <roky> flannel, thats weird....I just got mine to work earlier :/
[10:59] <Shai_A> So were waiting for adobe to fix it?
[10:59] <Kalamansi> erawfish : if i will install proxy to pc2, what ip i will assign there?
[10:59] <erawfish> Shai_A: then move if flash is that important to you
[10:59] <Malinthe> Help: Microtek Scanmaker 3840 on Ubuntu 7.10 doesn't work. Xsane detects it. When it's selected it gives me the error  Failed to open device 'sm3840:libusb:002:004': Access to resource has been denied. This worked fine with Ubuntu 7.04
[10:59] <erawfish> Kalamansi: proxies don't assign IPs
[10:59] <qos> hey guys ... i entered "sudo apt-get update" and now there are 8 applications to be updated. how to start the update process?
[10:59] <compwiz18> qos, sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:59] <Shai_A> it's important because I'm studying for the CCNA in the Cisco Academy site and everything is in flash, so I can't enter it.
[10:59] <erawfish> Malinthe: check the permissions of the device
[11:00] <cvasilak> qos: sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:00] <Kalamansi> erawfish : ok if im done installing squid, what ip i will set in the firefox manual proxy configuration?
[11:00] <Malinthe> erawfish: I'm a newbie. Can you guide me on doing it?
[11:00] <erawfish> Kalamansi: the private IP of the router
[11:00] <qos> compwiz18, cvasilak: but doesn't this upgrade to the next ubuntu version?
[11:00] <Flannel> roky: Yeah, I misspoke.  Its not an issue, just a packaging issue (now that I actually read the website).  Should be fixed soon enough.
[11:00] <compwiz18> qos, nope, shouldn't
[11:00] <erawfish> Malinthe: no since I don't know what device it is
[11:00] <Malinthe> erawfish: what should i do?
[11:01] <cvasilak> qos: no it doesn't there is another command for this
[11:01] <moidekar> Shai_A, I had the same prob; telling Firefox to find, download and install the plugin worked for me (as different from previous versions of Ubuntu/other distros, where it failed)
[11:01] <erawfish> Malinthe: find out the device it uses. check dmesg for example
[11:01] <roky> flannel: ah nice, I wasn't meaning to like hit on you about that. I was just saying thats weird because I just fixed mine lol
[11:01] <VSpike> malinthe: remove the device, then plug it in again and type dmesg in a terminal.  Look at the last few lines for something like /dev/usbxyz
[11:02] <Flannel> roky: Well, there is a fix, but its a manual one and can cause issues with future upgrades if done improperly
[11:02] <VSpike> malinthe: then do "ls -l /dev/usbxyz" or whatever the device was to see the permissions
[11:02] <roky> flannel: well, I didnt exactly know that when I did it. So who knows guess I will have to find out when the updates comes out lol
[11:03] <latarsky>  /join #centos
[11:04] <Malinthe> VSpike: I get usb 2-2: new full speed usb device using uhci_hcd and address 4
[11:04] <Malinthe> configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[11:04] <darklight> hello everyone
[11:04] <darklight> i would like to ask question ...
[11:04] <darklight> how to set privileges to a user ?
[11:05] <darklight> by command line
[11:05] <Kalamansi> erawfish : but i dont use router...you mean like "linksys router" ? i am connected directly to modem given by my isp and its configured already...
[11:05] <Agent_bob> chown chmod darklight
[11:05] <VSpike> malinthe: pastebin the most recent chunk of output.  Or grab it from /var/log/messages
[11:05] <Agent_bob> darklight but not if it's vfat or ntfs
[11:05] <Flannel> darklight: usermod with -G and -a (the -a is very important)
[11:05] <tijn> hi all
[11:06] <Malinthe> VSpike: Jan 11 16:33:09 malinthe-desktop kernel: [ 1334.812407] usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4
[11:06] <Malinthe> Jan 11 16:33:09 malinthe-desktop kernel: [ 1334.979388] usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[11:06] <darklight> any manual on this that i can read somewhere?
[11:06] <Flannel> darklight: man usermod
[11:06] <tijn> !alsa
[11:06] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:06] <oldude67> Agent_bob
[11:06] <darklight> flannel is that through command line?
[11:06] <Quicksilva> Hi there.  I need help with this error.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51543/
[11:06] <Flannel> darklight: yep
[11:06] <oldude67> oops
[11:06] <darklight> thanks guys
[11:06] <Malinthe> VSpike: i tried lsusb and got this: Bus 002 Device 004: ID 05da:30d4 Microtek International, Inc.
[11:07] <oldude67> Agent_bob, are you trying to do ipforwarding to the other computer?
[11:07] <Kalamansi> erawfish : is it okay to use firestarter than this http://l7-filter.sourceforge.net/README ?
[11:08] <tijn> how do i upgrade alsa to 1.0.15 with backports?
[11:09] <tijn> !backports
[11:09] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[11:10] <Malinthe> VSpike: I tried ls -l /dev/bust/usb/002/004 and got this: us 002 Device 004: ID 05da:30d4 Microtek International, Inc.
[11:10] <Malinthe> VSpike: I tried ls -l /dev/bust/usb/002/004 and got this: crw-rw-r-- 1 root scanner 189, 131 2008-01-11 16:33 /dev/bus/usb/002/004
[11:11] <VSpike> Malinthe: OK, if you type "groups", do you see scanner in there?
[11:11]  * marcx zbohom budte neublizil som, zajtra zbohom budem
[11:11] <darklight> flannel: how to change user privilege to be able to do the administrative job.. ? cant find it through man usermod
[11:11] <Flannel> tijn: alsa hasn't been backported.  You can try and do it yourself with prevu (see !prevu)
[11:11] <Malinthe> VSpike: Yes, I can see scanner in there
[11:11] <tijn> !prevu
[11:11] <ubotu> prevu is an automated, personal backporting utility. Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Prevu for more details
[11:12] <Flannel> darklight: you need to add the user to the admin group.  so sudo usermod -G admin -a username
[11:12] <VSpike> malinthe have you recently added yourself to the scanner group?
[11:12] <VSpike> Malinthe: if you have, you do need to log out and back in
[11:12] <Malinthe> VSpike: no
[11:12] <tijn> Flannel, thnx i will look into it
[11:13] <VSpike> Malinthe: OK, well the permissions look go so I'm stuck now ;)
[11:13] <Malinthe> VSpike: oh :) i've been trying to fix this for two days now :)
[11:13] <Malinthe> VSpike: it worked fine in feisty
[11:13] <spanther> ubuntu is only a CD not a DVD like debian? Oo
[11:13] <darklight> thanks Flannel  ... let me try first
[11:14] <spanther> how so?
[11:14] <oldude67> Agent_bob, are you still there?
[11:14] <Agent_bob> oldude67 yes
[11:15] <VSpike> Malinthe: my usb scanner does work in gutsy with xsane so it's not a general problem
[11:15] <oldude67> Agent_bob, are you trying to do ipforwarding?
[11:15] <KenSentMe> spanther, you can also download a dvd image which has more packages on the disc then the cd
[11:15] <Malinthe> VSpike: Yes, but I saw a few threads about this specific type of scanner is not working
[11:16] <Agent_bob> oldude67 right now i think i going to try to bridge the two eth cards and see if that's not a better solution
[11:16] <linediconsine> Hi ! I have this easy code in bash that doesnt run, I can use an argoments for my loop while http://dpaste.com/30617/
[11:16] <linediconsine> any helps?
[11:16] <Malinthe> VSpike: i tried scanimage -T and got Floating point exception (core dumped). any ideas?
[11:16] <kirk> how can i find out what my processor type is in unix form a cli?
[11:16] <linediconsine> $2 = $2 +1
[11:16] <linediconsine> is an error
[11:17] <oldude67> Agent_bob, ok well i dont know about that, i do know how to do the ipforwarding tho.
[11:17] <rvz5423> kirk: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[11:17] <Agent_bob> oldude67 ok if this fails i'll look you up    k?
[11:17] <oldude67> k
[11:17] <El_toni> someone can help to fix some errors in my dsdt table?
[11:17] <kirk> unix
[11:18] <kirk> no proc hpux v11
[11:18] <kirk> no /dev/cpuinfo either
[11:18] <rvz5423> kirk: this channel covers ubuntu, which is a linux distro
[11:18] <rvz5423> kirk: no hpux help here
[11:18] <darklight> it works ..
[11:19] <darklight> thanks again flannel .. guys ... keep up a good work
[11:19] <simmerz> why would an unencrypted dvd not play on my machine?!
[11:19] <sahil> urk
[11:20] <_Undefined> does anyone know if there are any belkin wireless N adapter drivers available?
[11:20] <sahil> in the oem install if i want to have settings for the user in their folder by default how would i go about doing that?
[11:20] <cj_> hey folks
[11:20] <cj_> debootstrap doesn't make the same filesystem as does the install CD
[11:20] <cj_> is there a way to bring up a stock ubuntu FS without booting a CD?
[11:21] <Kalamansi> !unix
[11:21] <ubotu> UNIX is an operating system created in the '70s, which has many direct derivates and inspired systems like Minix and !Linux. Most "UNIX-style" systems try to somewhat adhere to the POSIX standard.
[11:22] <kirk> forgot to mention linus torvalis
[11:22] <cwillu> you said unix, not linux :/
[11:22] <simmerz> I get this error when I try to play a dvd in mplayer: libdvdread: CHECK_VALUE failed in nav_read.c:207
[11:23] <kirk> unix unix unix
[11:23] <kirk> simmerz:  use vlc
[11:23] <chealdo> guys need help who among you have installed ubuntu feisty in sata drives?
[11:23] <kirk> heh i have
[11:23] <kirk> but why not install gutsy?
[11:23] <simmerz> kirk: I need to use mencoder to pull the dvd into an mpeg
[11:23] <kirk> ohhh
[11:24] <simmerz> its not encrypted. works on my ubuntu machine at home, but not here at work
[11:24] <simmerz> the same dvd
[11:24] <cwillu> chealdo, #mplayer might be a better bet;  I'm not sure mplayer uses the gstreamer plugins
[11:24] <Malinthe> what program should i use to capture tv programs? (i have a tv tuner and i watch tv programs with tvtime)
[11:24] <cwillu> bah, simmerz rather
[11:24] <chealdo> cwillu, i mean installng feisty on sata hdd
[11:25] <cwillu> chealdo, ya, wrong person
[11:25] <cwillu> Malinthe, I'm fond of mythtv myself;  depending on the card, you can often just cp from /dev/video0 and get an mpeg file out of it
[11:25] <simmerz> cwillu: thanks
[11:25] <Jack_Sparrow> chealdo: yes, on sata and feisty..
[11:25] <Malinthe> cwillu: thnx
[11:25] <chealdo> well jack do you hav tips for me
[11:26] <cwillu> Malinthe, what tuner do you have?
[11:26] <Jack_Sparrow> chealdo: Are you dual booting,
[11:26] <Jack_Sparrow> chealdo: Do you have an option in bios/cmos to emulate ide drives etc
[11:26] <skazi_> kanenas ellinas edw mesa?
[11:27] <chealdo> Jack_Sparrow, yup with xp and my machine is 64bit ga-vm900m and the only option i see in this motherboard is ied and raid in sata
[11:27] <Malinthe> cwillu: it's sth called intex. has a philips SAA7130 tuner chip.
[11:27] <cwillu> !es ?
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es ? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <cwillu> !es
[11:27] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[11:27] <simmerz> cwillu: kirk: vlc doesn't play it either
[11:27] <kirk> what dvd is it?
[11:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Portugese
[11:27] <cwillu> Malinthe, does it have an mpeg encoder on it do you know?
[11:28] <cwillu> Malinthe, the thing I said about mpeg2 will only work if it does
[11:28] <Malinthe> cwillu: i'm not sure
[11:28] <simmerz> kirk: one we've had a film company film for us. burned to a dvdr
[11:28] <Jack_Sparrow> chealdo: I would use the ide optionin the bios and install the 32 bit version
[11:28] <cwillu> Malinthe, k;  I know mythtv will do live tv recording stuff (pause, rewind, etc)
[11:28] <simmerz> I just get noise when totem/mplayer/xine/vlc try to play it
[11:28] <Jack_Sparrow> chealdo: How much room on the hard drive are you giving to ubuntu
[11:28] <cwillu> Malinthe, it'll need a fairly beefy machine if the card doesn't do encoding onboard though
[11:28] <chealdo> unfortunatley the computers dileverd for me from saudi is all 64bit intel pentium4 ht
[11:29] <Malinthe> cwillu: okay
[11:29] <chealdo> 40GB for ubuntu
[11:29] <Jack_Sparrow> chealdo: ou can still use the 32 but ubuntu
[11:29] <Jack_Sparrow> chealdo: Sorry my fingers are not awake yet
[11:30] <chealdo>  itried gutsy but during installation it goes black and says it restarted 6times and theres something wrong with your hardware...ubuntu sys
[11:30] <Jack_Sparrow> chealdo: create two partitions plus the  swap drive equal to your ram
[11:31] <chealdo> what about the bios
[11:31] <Jack_Sparrow> chealdo: How many partitions are you running for XP
[11:31] <chealdo> i got 80Gb and 37Gb for xp
[11:32] <Jack_Sparrow> chealdo: Stick with ide in the bios not the soft raid..
[11:32] <chealdo> sata>>>ide is that right? or sata>>>>raid
[11:33] <zenobius> Kalamansi: the packet filter in the kernel is netfilter. iptables makes use of this already
[11:33] <Jack_Sparrow> chealdo: Yes to IDE...  the partitioning  as litle as 10 for /  which is root and 28 for /home then the swap
[11:33] <zenobius> erawfish: dnsmasq aint a good recommnedation for them, usually they only mean a gui for the already existing firewall (netfilter)
[11:33] <Jack_Sparrow> chealdo: How many partitions are you running for XP?
[11:34] <chealdo> just one
[11:34] <Jack_Sparrow> chealdo: Just did not want you to run into the 4 Primary partition limit..
[11:35] <orgthingy> hi
[11:35] <chealdo> well i like ubuntu to use the whole disk
[11:35] <erawfish> zenobius: what has dnsmasq to do with netfilter again?
[11:35] <zenobius> white_eagle: best bandwidth limiting solution i found was : per app : trickle for limitiing bandwidth wo other computers on a lan that connect to the internet via a dedicated linux box, use squid
[11:35] <orgthingy> the bittorrent client is soo slow (the built in)
[11:35] <chealdo> and gonna rid of the xp thing
[11:35] <orgthingy> how can i make it faster?
[11:35] <erawfish> zenobius: and where did I talk about dnsmasq?
[11:35] <sluimers> My camera no longer works
[11:35] <Jack_Sparrow> chealdo: Ubuntu will be using the 40 you have left
[11:35] <sluimers> It's a hercules webcam Deluxe
[11:36] <chealdo> ok
[11:36] <sluimers> Can anyone help me with that?
[11:36] <zenobius> Kalamansi: sudo apt-get install firestarter, then system -> admins -> firestarter.. then turn on internet connection sharing
[11:36] <Kalamansi> zenobius : i cant understand netfilter.. is it okay to use firestarter? is it the same as netfilter?
[11:37] <Jack_Sparrow> chealdo: I have been withubuntu for years.  I still dual boot.  I just dont give XP access to the network card as I disabled the network card in the hardware settings.
[11:37] <zenobius> erawfish: he asked for internet sharing and you gave dnsmasq. all that is required is firestarter
[11:38] <chealdo> ok is ahci possible to my motherboard or just work around with sata>>>ide
[11:38] <Kalamansi> Jack_Sparrow : you are in ubuntu for years.. what can you suggest?
[11:38] <Jack_Sparrow> sluimers: DId it work before, did you recently upgrade etc.. we need a little mre info
[11:38] <erawfish> zenobius: I never did such a thing
[11:38] <erawfish> dnsmasq is not ipmasq
[11:38] <Kalamansi> erawfish : like firestarter?
[11:38] <chealdo> kalamsi isuggest the latest version of ubuntu
[11:38] <zenobius> Kalamansi: firestarter talks to iptables which talks to the kernel level netfilter
[11:38] <Kalamansi> chealdo : yes i have that running now
[11:39] <Kalamansi> zenobius : do you think thats what i need?
[11:39] <sluimers> Jack_Sparrow, I haven't used it in a while, so maybe its becuse I upgraded from feisty to gutsy?
[11:39] <sluimers> *because
[11:39] <chealdo> so well wait for the heron to release
[11:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Kalamansi: No sure about your issue.  I will look when I am done with my other questions..ok?
[11:39] <Kalamansi> zenobius : i am not familiar with netfilter tho
[11:39] <Kalamansi> Jack_Sparrow alright
[11:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall
[11:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[11:40] <zenobius> Kalamansi: you dont need to be
[11:40] <Kalamansi> zenobius : you mean i dont need firestarter?
[11:40] <Jack_Sparrow> chealdo: One more thing
[11:40] <chealdo> Jack_Sparrow, yup
[11:41] <Jack_Sparrow> chealdo: Have you run the livecd yet.  If you have a problem.  My gigabit MB needed me to hit F^ and add noapic to the boot like
[11:41] <Jack_Sparrow> F6
[11:41] <zenobius> Kalamansi: yes you do, for the easiest way to enable internet connection sharing using one devie on your puter for the net and one devie for the connection to your local lan. its pretty much like windows interenet connection sharing
[11:42] <zenobius> Kalamansi: you choose the ethernet device thats hooked to the internet(wan) and then the one thats hooked to the local lan.
[11:42] <Kalamansi> zenobius : okay . it can utilize traffic too?
[11:42] <chealdo> Jack_Sparrow, what kind of F F6 F8 or what
[11:42] <Kalamansi> zenobius : like pc2 will download some files?
[11:42] <Kalamansi> zenobius : and i can block also sites in firestarter?
[11:42] <zenobius> Kalamansi: pretty much transparent, cept your computer may be 192.168.0.2 and your router is 192.168.0.1, but your friends on your lan ethernet device will be another subnet
[11:43] <zenobius> Kalamansi: definitly
[11:43] <Jack_Sparrow> chealdo: At start or install  you can hit F6     then on the boot line before the --   type in noapic
[11:43] <Kalamansi> zenobius : cept?
[11:43] <zenobius> Kalamansi: you can either whitelist sites, ip or ports or you can blacklist ips, ports or addresses
[11:43] <chealdo> Jack_Sparrow, what i did is got load the live cd then typical installation then in the partion part it says manual and then it never detected the sata drive
[11:43] <zenobius> Kalamansi: cept = except
[11:44] <zenobius> if you want to restrict bandwidth usages to some addresses, ip or ports you need to use squid as well
[11:45] <AzMoo> Hey, is there a way to change my compiz theme? I liked some of the things you could do with emerald in beryl, is that still around?
[11:45] <Jack_Sparrow> chealdo: if it got to the desktop .. then try the option ide=nodma
[11:45] <zenobius> azmoo: apt-get install emerald
[11:45] <_Undefined> does anyone know of any drivers that work with NDISwrapper for a belkin pre-N wireless adapter based on the Marvell Pre-N chipset?
[11:45] <zenobius> AzMoo: or open synaptics package manager and search for and install emerald
[11:46] <cwillu> what's the syntax for a private ubotu query?
[11:46] <cwillu> !test > cwillu
[11:46] <zenobius> AzMoo: and emerald-themes, then goto gnome-look, kde0look, or beryl-look or deviant art, etc and download .emerald files
[11:46] <Moduliz0r> cwillu: /msg ubotu
[11:46] <AzMoo> zenobius: heh, yeah ta. Probably should've just done that in the first place ;)
[11:46] <cwillu> thx
[11:46] <zenobius> AzMoo: gtk-window manager is fastest though
[11:46] <cwillu> duh, right
[11:46] <Kalamansi> zenobius : but i dont use router like "linksys" ... i use modem that my isp give to me
[11:46] <zenobius> Kalamansi: okies then you puter is the router
[11:47] <zenobius> Kalamansi: rather it will act like one
[11:47] <Kalamansi> zenobius : yah..
[11:47] <KenSentMe> Is there a package that switches my desktop background after a certain time?
[11:47] <Kalamansi> zenobius : whats the config to my built-in nic1? and to temp nic2?
[11:47] <hwdyki> what's the difference between universe and multiverse?
[11:48] <chealdo> Jack_Sparrow, is the ide=nodma thru terminal?
[11:48] <hwdyki> and restricted
[11:48] <theunixgeek> KenSentMe: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Environment/Tools/Wallpaper-Slideshow-23289.shtml
[11:48] <Kalamansi> zenobius : and also my isp gave me a statice ip and dns and gateway too. but it is already stored in the isp modem
[11:48] <theunixgeek> !universe  | hwdyki
[11:48] <ubotu> hwdyki: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:48] <Jack_Sparrow> chealdo: No it is another F6 at start or install         option
[11:48] <theunixgeek> !multiverse | hwdyki
[11:48] <Moduliz0r> !info ndiswrapper
[11:48] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in gutsy
[11:48] <cwillu> hwdyki, universe is open but unsupported, multiverse is restricted in some way, and unsupported
[11:48] <Moduliz0r> WHAT
[11:48] <niceM> Enter text here...hi?
[11:48] <simmerz> what would cause a dvd not to play even if all the codecs and associated packages are installed?
[11:49] <Moduliz0r> what's the package name for ndiswrapper
[11:49] <theunixgeek> Moduliz0r: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/
[11:49] <zenobius> Kalamansi: that should be listed in /etc/network/interfaces, to edit it in gedit : alt+f2, type : gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[11:49] <Moduliz0r> k
[11:49] <Jack_Sparrow> simmerz: Is it just one dvd or any dvd's
[11:49] <theunixgeek> !google
[11:49] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[11:49] <niceM> how are you?
[11:49] <zenobius> simmerz: its dual layer maybe?
[11:49] <theunixgeek> niceM: fine, and you? :)
[11:49] <theunixgeek> !ubuntu | niceM
[11:49] <ubotu> niceM: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[11:49] <niceM> thx me too fine
[11:50] <niceM> can we talk?
[11:50] <theunixgeek> !offtopic | niceM
[11:50] <ubotu> niceM: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:50] <Kalamansi> zenobius : mate i have problem installing firestarter http://pastebin.com/m7f5a1978
[11:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !botabuse > theunixgeek
[11:50] <KenSentMe> theunixgeek, thanks
[11:50] <Moduliz0r> how would I go about getting ndiswrapper downloaded and installed on a PC with no network connection yet?
[11:50] <theunixgeek> KenSentMe: no problem :)
[11:50] <zenobius> Kalamansi: do you have universe repo open?
[11:51] <Kalamansi> zenobius : nope
[11:51] <theunixgeek> Moduliz0r: you could try using a USB flash jump drive or burn a CD/DVD
[11:51] <Moduliz0r> ok
[11:51] <zenobius> Kalamansi: that would be your issue, enable it and try again
[11:51] <Moduliz0r> thanks
[11:51] <niceM> are you here?
[11:51] <theunixgeek> niceM: yes.
[11:51] <zetheroo> has anyone tried to install the Beta version of Gizmo for Windows in Linux through Wine?... or crossover?
[11:51] <Kalamansi> zenobius : just one terminal.. thats my problem. i cannot even install or download updates...
[11:51] <niceM> good
[11:51] <theunixgeek> niceM: This is the Ubuntu chatroom. For conversations, type /msg theunixgeek your message here.
[11:51] <mm7> hello. ubuntu isn't recognizing my on-board LAN. do I have to download a driver or something?
[11:51] <zenobius> Kalamansi: sudo apt-get update
[11:52] <niceM> can i ask are you female ou male?
[11:52] <zenobius> Kalamansi: sudo apt-get install firestarter
[11:52] <Flynsarmy> Is there a way to set the icon of a 'Launcher'? I created one (i assume its the equivalent of a windows shortcut) that connects to my comp but it created this tiny little icon. I want one like the HDD image of the mounted NTFS drive
[11:52] <theunixgeek> niceM: male; for private messages please type /msg theunixgeek message here.
[11:52] <zenobius> Kalamansi: to edit available repos : sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:52] <theunixgeek> mm7: what's your network card?
[11:52] <Kalamansi> zenobius : http://pastebin.com/m264e0773
[11:53] <KenSentMe> theunixgeek, fyi: drapes also support desktop wallpaper switching
[11:53] <stefano_> can i set up the vga port on my intel notebook so that i can plug in a second monitor? i tried displayconfig-gtk but it doesnt appear to work
[11:53] <zenobius> Kalamansi: should only have to uncomment a line somewhere there to enable universe
[11:53] <theunixgeek> KenSentMe: ok. thanks for the info :)b ut I was just using google ;)
[11:53] <Kalamansi> zenobius: i am not good in scripting or editing. before, i just click at the tray the updates.. but now i dont see any updates after reinstalling ubuntu
[11:53] <theunixgeek> Zenobius, Kalamansi you don't need to do that.
[11:53] <niceM> are you bussy?
[11:54] <zenobius> theunixgeek: huh?
[11:54] <mm7> theunixgeek it's on board LAN. on Abit IP35 Pro mother board
[11:54] <zenobius>  theunixgeek: he need firestarter, he doesnt have universe repo open
[11:54] <theunixgeek> zenobius, Kalamansi https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu and scroll down to "Adding the Universe Repository"
[11:54] <Kalamansi> this is my /etc/network/interfaces
[11:54] <theunixgeek> mm7: check google to see if there are any Linux drivers for it :)
[11:54] <zenobius> Kalamansi: deferr to theunixgeek
[11:54] <ToDor> Is there a way to install ubuntu without running the live version?
[11:55] <theunixgeek> ToDor: alternate install
[11:55] <zenobius> ToDor: its possible to do wahts called a netboot install
[11:55] <Jack_Sparrow> ToDor: Yes ,by using the alternate cd
[11:55] <zenobius> ToDor: but i cant help you there, try the wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:55] <theunixgeek> ToDor: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download and check off the alternate desktop CD checkbox
[11:55] <ToDor> theunixgeek: can i do it with the live media? the one which has install icon on desktop when u run it?
[11:56] <ToDor> theunixgeek: but without runinng the live version?
[11:56] <theunixgeek> ToDor: yes. you double-click on the install icon to install it.
[11:56] <theunixgeek> ToDor: then get the alternate cd at the link I gave you :)
[11:56] <theunixgeek> ToDor: the alternate install cd is not live; only installation
[11:56] <Jack_Sparrow> ToDor: No you cant do it withthe livecd..  is there a problem with the live cd install?
[11:56] <ToDor> theunixgeek: that is what i did in first place and i got live media :D
[11:56] <ToDor> theunixgeek: no but it's slow...
[11:57] <theunixgeek> Jack_Sparrow: yes you can
[11:57] <cwillu> theunixgeek, it's live if a busybox if good enough for what you have in mind :p
[11:57] <gobandaaa> test
[11:57] <corvus> join #ubuntu-fr
[11:57] <theunixgeek> corvus: /join #ubuntu-fr
[11:57] <ToDor> Jack_Sparrow: how?
[11:57] <theunixgeek> ToDor: the alternate install
[11:57] <Kalamansi> theunixgeek i am not using 6.10 .. i am using 7.10 there is no software properties here
[11:57] <Jack_Sparrow> theunixgeek: You can do a text install from the live cd?  ISince when
[11:57] <lgierth> what are the doing with cups? it's the third update within three days now
[11:57] <ToDor> Jack_Sparrow: how do i do the text install?
[11:57] <zenobius> Kalamansi: theunixgeek actually meant to send you to this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[11:58] <zenobius> theunixgeek: you meant this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[11:58] <theunixgeek> Jack_Sparrow: not from the live cd
[11:58] <theunixgeek> zenobius: ok
[11:58] <Jack_Sparrow> theunixgeek: I agree with that.. he asked.. if he could do a text install using the live cd..
[11:58] <doktoreas> hello i am trying to set up awstats on my ubuntu server..
[11:59] <theunixgeek> Jack_Sparrow: not from the Live CD.
[11:59] <theunixgeek> Jack_Sparrow: Well, you could try an OEM install....
[11:59] <Kalamansi> zenobius : i am using 7.10 not 6.10 so there is no "software preferences" here
[11:59] <theunixgeek> ToDor: try using the OEM install from the live cd
[11:59] <Jack_Sparrow> theunixgeek: Ant No was my answer to that question...
[11:59] <doktoreas> i have seen some tutorial but i come always to SiteDomain parameter not defined in your config/domain file
[11:59] <niceM> hi?
[11:59] <theunixgeek> ToDor: when you boot select "OEM install for manufacturers"
[11:59] <theunixgeek> niceM: hello
[11:59] <niceM> how are you?
[11:59] <ToDor> theunixgeek: thank you
[11:59] <theunixgeek> niceM: do you have any idea what IRC is?
[11:59] <theunixgeek> ToDor: no problem
[12:00] <niceM> not to bed thxxxxxxxx
[12:00] <theunixgeek> niceM: and do you realize you're in a chat room with other people?
[12:00] <niceM> can I ask are you male or female?
[12:00] <theunixgeek> niceM: you already asked me that
[12:00] <Jack_Sparrow> ToDor: The live cd is slow but the hd install runs faster.  Even the livecd runing slow is a faster install than windows.
[12:00] <theunixgeek> !ops niceM is either a bot or a troll
[12:00] <niceM> aha sorry
[12:00] <Jack_Sparrow> niceM: Please type /j #Ubuntu-offtopic
[12:01] <niceM> where are you from?
[12:01] <PriceChild> !guidelines > niceM (pleae read the message from ubotu)
[12:01] <pmratpoison> hello! How can I share an NTFS folder? (via smb preferably)
[12:01] <Jack_Sparrow> PriceChild: He or the bot is not listening
[12:01] <theunixgeek> pmratpoison: http://www.google.com/linux?hl=pt-BR&q=share+ntfs+folder&btnG=Pesquisar&lr=
[12:02] <niceM> how old are you?
[12:02] <pmratpoison> theunixgeek: thnx
[12:02] <dgjones> niceM, this channel is a support channel for Ubuntu, if you're just looking for general chat, please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:02] <Kalamansi> zenobius : you mean software sources?
[12:02] <theunixgeek> he's gone! :D
[12:03] <Kalamansi> !ati
[12:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:09] <_moro_bana_> heeeeeeeep with installing tileracer
[12:09] <_moro_bana_> help
[12:10] <Jack_Sparrow> _moro_bana_: You know better than that.. Morning buddy..
[12:10] <_moro_bana_> Jack_Sparrow: morning captain
[12:11] <Jack_Sparrow> _moro_bana_: IS tile racer from the repos?  never heard of it.. but that means nothing
[12:11] <chealdo> Jack_Sparrow, i hav no 7.10 64bit installer yet but does gibbon automatically detects sata drives?
[12:11] <_moro_bana_> Jack_Sparrow:actually its 3pm here, its a linux game racing
[12:11] <dgjones> Jack_Sparrow, no, i just looked in repo's, didn't see any sign of it
[12:11] <Jack_Sparrow> chealdo: It should detect the sata yes
[12:11] <_moro_bana_> Jack_Sparrow: i think i need to install 32bit support but i dont know how to
[12:12] <chealdo> well the feisty havent yet
[12:12] <Jack_Sparrow> chealdo: I install feisty on several machines that had sata drives
[12:12] <chealdo> Jack_Sparrow, so this how you work around with sata?
[12:13] <Jack_Sparrow> chealdo: That includes the one I am on right ow that I just upgraded to gutsy yesterday
[12:13] <Jack_Sparrow> _moro_bana_: 3am here.. where did you dl the game.. If you have a link I will look at it
[12:14] <sinthetek> i'm having trouble getting apache2 to run properly. i've tried purging and reinstalling various components of apache2 but am still having problems. does anyone know how to get mod_access enabled and/or why else apache would say 'Order' is an invalid command at apache startup?
[12:14] <bottiger> "Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/amarok/amarok-xine_1.4.8-0ubuntu1~gutsy1_i386.deb  Size mismatch" - what does that mean? and how do I fix it?
[12:14] <sinthetek> same problem as this guy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4071687
[12:15] <Jack_Sparrow> chealdo: Not sure I understand your question.  But some drive controllers do need ide=nodma
[12:15] <etfb> A friend showed me once how to view the boot logs, the stuff that gets printed on the screen at boot time when you have the splash screen switched off.  Sadly, I didn't save his settings when I installed Gutsy.  Can anyone tell me what I've forgotten?
[12:15] <Slart> hm.. does anyone else get problems with compiz when running the screensaver "braids" ? it makes my compiz hang with 100% cpu usage until I kill-9 it
[12:15] <jabrahamsen> hi where do i set silent startup again?
[12:15] <chealdo> Jack_Sparrow, ok try this anyway in a few minutes....
[12:15] <etfb> jabrahamsen: You mean: switching off all the messages at boot time?  Or something else?
[12:16] <Slart> jabrahamsen: do you mean the grub switch?
[12:16] <jabrahamsen> showing the messages
[12:16] <jabrahamsen> yeah grub setup
[12:16] <sinthetek> chealdo: they are usually detected as scsi devices and given a /dev/sd* name, but i've seen some that use sata-to-ide bridge thing and appear as regular ide (hd*)
[12:16] <sinthetek> ...if that is what you're asking
[12:16] <Jack_Sparrow> etfb: /boot/grub/menu.lst    is the file where you turned off splash and quiet...  if that is what you mean
[12:16] <etfb> jabrahamsen: in /boot/grub/menu.lst - remove any mention of splash and quiet
[12:17] <Slart> jabrahamsen: look in /boot/grub/menu.lst add the option "quite" to default boot options
[12:17] <etfb> Jack_Sparrow: Snap!
[12:17] <Slart> jabrahamsen: you'll have to run "sudo update-grub" to make it active
[12:17] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[12:17] <Pici> Slart: quiet.
[12:17] <etfb> etfb: I did that, but I want to be able to read a file of the stuff that gets printed, AFTER I've finished booting
[12:17] <_moro_bana_> Jack_Sparrow: http://gaming.gwos.org/doku.php
[12:17] <Slart> oops.. make that quiet..
[12:17] <Pici> Slart: s/quite/quiet/ I mean ;)
[12:17] <Slart> sorry
[12:17] <Jack_Sparrow> sinthetek: the livecd booted to desktop but manual partitioning didnt show any drives
[12:17] <Slart> hehe
[12:17] <jabrahamsen> remove splash and quiet from grub.1st??
[12:18] <etfb> jabrahamsen: Yep - that's the condensed version.  Do you need further explanation of how to do that?
[12:19]  * etfb realises he was talking to himself there, so repeats with the correct name...
[12:19] <etfb> Jack_Sparrow: : I did that, but I want to be able to read a file of the stuff that gets printed, AFTER I've finished booting
[12:19] <chealdo> Jack_Sparrow, btw what if it won't work in noapic what else will i type
[12:19] <jabrahamsen> and then what was the command to update the grub
[12:20] <Slart> sudo update-grub'
[12:20] <Slart> bah.. without the '
[12:20] <jabrahamsen> ta
[12:21] <etfb> Slart: I don't think you need update-grub for that, do you?  I removed the offending options and next time I rebooted it was fine.
[12:22] <Jack_Sparrow> chealdo: Sorry, I was reading..   ide=nodma  is what I would try first
[12:22] <Slart> etfb: then you changed the part of the file where it says "DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE".. now didn't you =)
[12:22] <Jack_Sparrow> _moro_bana_: You are right.. there is no 64 bit version..
[12:22] <Slart> etfb: and your changes will be overwritten if there comes a new kernel..
[12:22] <_moro_bana_> Jack_Sparrow: but can  dl 32bit support
[12:23] <chealdo> Jack_Sparrow, ok i'll try..........r u gonna stick here for awhile?
[12:23] <_moro_bana_> Jack_Sparrow: can i
[12:23] <Jack_Sparrow> _moro_bana_: I dont know how to do that.. others here will
[12:23] <Jack_Sparrow> chealdo: I am in and out all day
[12:23] <_moro_bana_> Jack_Sparrow: ok
[12:24] <Jack_Sparrow> chealdo: I will be here for another hour or so then back to bed for a bit
[12:24] <chealdo> Jack_Sparrow, ok i'll be back
[12:24] <chealdo> Jack_Sparrow, thanks
[12:24] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[12:24] <josh__> hello does anyone know of a better movie codec to get than GStreamer ?
[12:25] <etfb> Slart: Naah, because the other thing I changed was the pseudo-comment line that gets used as the template for all future changes.  Clever, me!
[12:25] <Jack_Sparrow> josh__: It is more likely an issue with your video card driver than codec  Is it an ati card?
[12:25] <laughzilla> anyone know how to test that my webcam is working in skype on ubuntu 7.10 ? i just installed the latest skype about an hour ago. i don't see where to test the webcam or mic or speakers (and none of the contacts i have to video chat with are on right now).
[12:26] <_moro_bana_> Jack_Sparrow: have the same prob with josh, using an ati
[12:26] <Slart> etfb: hehe.. then I guess you're ok.. but you still changed the line below... so no christmas presents for you =).. but seriously.. I think you're only supposed to change the first one.. and then run update-grub and it changes all the rest of the lines for you
[12:27] <laughzilla> jack_sparrow : we held a Pirates & Wenches Party here last night in Tel Aviv :) it was quite ridiculously fun :)
[12:27] <josh__> Jack_Sparrow,  yes it is, but someone was telling me about a better codec than GStreamer i just cant remember the name of it
[12:27] <Jack_Sparrow> _moro_bana_: Yes..  they are improving on the driver,
[12:27] <etfb> Slart: I don't like the way it arranges them by default, so I always reedit.  Besides, haven't you ever wanted to write in the "do not write in this space" space?
[12:28] <Slart> etfb: of course..I draw naughty ascii graphics down there.. =)
[12:28] <etfb> So: all that text that gets printed on boot up.  Is it stored in a file anywhere?  How do I find it?  I know about dmesg, but that's only some of it.
[12:29] <etfb> Slart: If you do that, you get a terse and grumpy email from Linus, and you have to stay behind and clean the erasers.
[12:30] <inflex> what's the DVD copying software that Ubuntu uses when you right-click on a DVD/CD drive and it offers "Copy this CD/DVD" ?
[12:33] <tass> perhaps not fitting, but got a problem with latex - overfull \hbox in a normal paragraph
[12:33] <inflex> tass: usually that's a warning - not an error
[12:34] <inflex> tass: typically happens when you put a graphic in and it exceeds the text boundary
[12:34] <inflex> tass: you using LyX ?
[12:34] <pmratpoison> hello! how can I learn what the values of umask mean?
[12:34] <tass> inflex: winefish because kile isn't working
[12:35] <inflex> mmm... not familiar with either of those personally
[12:35] <inflex> (sorry)
[12:35] <inflex> but usually an overfull box shouldn't be enough to terminate the processing via the TeX engine
[12:35] <tass> exit code: 1
[12:36] <tass> actually it's around 18pt too wide
[12:36] <Kanedacorp> hi all, linux newbie here :)
[12:36] <Malinthe> guys, how can i add 'refresh desktop' to ubuntu desktop context-menu? (which was available in windoez)
[12:37] <ChrisGibbs> anyone got any suggestions where i can get some help with dmraid please?? forums there is no response and I have asked a few times in this channel with no luck??
[12:37] <Pici> Malinthe: I don't believe you can, what seems to be the problem that you need to refresh the 'desktop'?
[12:37] <Kanedacorp> I have managed to set up dual screen and compiz on unbuntu. I've also installed the xfce desktop, I'm wondering if I can specify a different xorg.conf to use when I select the xfce session?
[12:37] <tass> inflex: so i really got a problem :/
[12:38] <Malinthe> Pici: I moved from windoez recently and i'm used to clicking that over and over :) and i miss it in ubuntu :)
[12:38] <Pici> Malinthe: You shouldn't have to refresh the desktop.
[12:38] <Malinthe> Pici: true, but i'm used to doing that ;)
[12:39] <Kanedacorp> well you could make a menu entry that does nothing maybe?
[12:39] <Kanedacorp> that would satisfy your desire to clcik it ;)
[12:39] <inflex> tass: are you able to edit the tex source ?
[12:39] <etfb> Malinthe: Since you don't need to do it, why not just convince yourself that the Shift key does it, and get into the habit of pressing that.  Like nicotine patches for the screen...
[12:39] <tass> inflex: jep
[12:39] <inflex> tass: do those programs you mentioned generate the TeX for you, or are they just TeX sensitive editors?
[12:40] <tass> inflex: tex sensitive editors
[12:40] <inflex> (sorry, I'm not being much use now --- I usually use LyX )
[12:40] <Malinthe> etfb: :)
[12:40] <inflex> mmm... might be useful if you go to #latex
[12:40] <_trine> can someone tell me how to get all the menus back again on my ubuntu
[12:41] <_trine> they have disappeared
[12:41] <_trine> it the latest version
[12:41] <Pici> _trine: The menu bar with "Applications, Places, System" has disappeared?
[12:41] <_trine> yes
[12:41] <_trine> I don't know why
[12:42] <Kanedacorp> does anyone know an answer for my session question? or can point me to a good session tutorial or article?
[12:42] <Pici> _trine: Right click on the panel, select 'add to panel' and pick Menu Bar
[12:43] <Pici> Kanedacorp: By the time that GDM has started, it is already running X and has processed your xorg file.
[12:43] <Malinthe> can I map the winkey to open the applications menu instead of using <Alt>F1 ?
[12:43] <amidaniel> Just upgraded to Gutsy. When playing music in Rhythmbox, all that comes through is static with a slight hint of the song way underneath. All other audio apps work perfectly fine. Any ideas?
[12:43] <amidaniel> And Rhythmbox used to work fine on this comp
[12:43] <Kanedacorp> GDM is the login screen?
[12:43] <Pici> Kanedacorp: Yes.
[12:44] <_trine> Pici: sorry for a dumb question but do you mean right click in the screen?
[12:44] <_trine> because there is no panel
[12:44] <Pici> _trine: Are you missing the entire grey bar at the top?
[12:44] <_trine> yes
[12:44] <inflex> so... no one knows what 7.10 uses / invokes when you select "copy CD/DVD" ?
[12:44] <Pici> _trine: What about the one on the bottom?
[12:44] <_trine> gone as well
[12:45] <neuro_sys> how can we use terminal screen to search for a package over internet such as lets say Kopete instant manager?
[12:45] <_trine> I still have all my desktop icons
[12:45] <Xion> any one be able to tell me how to wipe my computer and start from scratch???
[12:45] <j2dope> hello. i'm on pidgin, but it says I need SSl stuff to get on msn. any help?
[12:45] <amidaniel> neuro_sys: Use dpkg
[12:45] <Pici> _trine: Were you playing around with the panels before this happened?
[12:45] <inflex> Xion: many many ways
[12:45] <Xion> dpkg?
[12:46] <inflex> Xion: If you just restart with a Ubuntu install CD it'll offer you to do it with a complete format
[12:46] <_trine> no I just turned on my computer and they did not reappear they were all working when I last used it
[12:46] <amidaniel> neuro_sys: Woops, sorry :) dselect's probably what you're looking for
[12:46] <Xion> oh yeah so if i use the boot disc i can go about it like that
[12:47] <Pici> amidaniel: er.. thats not really going to help either.
[12:47] <jin> is there a tool to remember the windows size? or modify the window size when clicked on the maximize button?
[12:47] <Pici> neuro_sys: use `apt-cache search package`
[12:47] <Xion> is it possible to partion my hard drive without losing data?
[12:47] <neuro_sys> any other than dpkg? I'm using Fedora 8
[12:47] <neuro_sys> oh okay
[12:47] <Xion> want to duel partition my hard drive
[12:47] <Pici> neuro_sys: Why are you asking in an Ubuntu channel?
[12:47] <Malinthe> can I map the winkey to open the applications menu instead of using <Alt>F1 ?
[12:47] <Pici> neuro_sys: That won't work, please ask in #fedora as we do not use the same packaging systems.
[12:48] <neuro_sys> lol, my DNS server seems to be get banned from #Fedora
[12:48] <inflex> Xion: not sure that you want to fight with your partitions... but if you want dual partitions, yes, you can setup that ... though you may find that it's better to setup Windows first
[12:48] <inflex> Xion: since Windows installs clobber the boot setup
[12:48] <Pici> neuro_sys: Thats not much of an excuse.
[12:48] <alsadk> how to fix errors on add/remove applications
[12:48] <alsadk> ?
[12:48] <Pici> neuro_sys: Take it up with them, or ask in a distro independent channel like ##linux
[12:48] <Xion> yeah thats why i wanted to wipe and start over
[12:49]  * neuro_ cries as he keeps getting pinged :)
[12:49] <Xion> have all the stuff i want backed up
[12:49] <Pici> _trine: if you press alt-f2, does a little window come up?
[12:49] <_trine> yes
[12:49] <Pici> _trine: type: gnome-panel
[12:49] <Xion> but yeah if i just run the install disk i can uninstall and wipe like that???
[12:50] <Pici> Xion: Yes.
[12:50] <Xion> great, thanx alot
[12:50] <Pici> Xion: It just wipes, no need to 'uninstall'
[12:50] <tuntun> !flash
[12:50] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[12:50] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[12:50] <Xion> nice
[12:50] <Jack_Sparrow> alsadk: Have you changed your sources list.. what is the exact error it gives
[12:50] <Xion> thanx for the help, lol i gotta go, have a bit of work ahead of me
[12:50] <alsadk> yes
[12:51] <Pici> !who
[12:51] <ubotu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[12:51] <Jack_Sparrow> alsadk: What did you do to your sources list?
[12:51] <MrKeuner> hi, can anybody use webcam with skype in ubuntu?
[12:51] <Pici> _trine: Did that help?
[12:51] <_trine> Pici: I'm just going to reboot I will be back in 3 minutes and I want to say I appreciate your help
[12:51] <Pici> _trine: Okay
[12:51] <_trine> it did not work
[12:51] <_trine> but
[12:51] <alsadk> i change it to another one
[12:52] <_trine> Pici: xfce4-panel worked
[12:52] <_trine> Pici: but not the gnome-panel
[12:52] <Slart> MrKeuner: I could.. for a short while.. with the latest skype beta.. but it was broken in so many other ways so I removed it
[12:52] <Pici> _trine: Are you running Gnome or xfce?
[12:52] <schnootop> anyone know how to get awn run on startup always ?
[12:52] <Jack_Sparrow> alsadk: Perhaps you could tell us what you changed and what you were trying to do so that we may help you
[12:52] <_trine> Pici: so I'm going to try a reboot
[12:52] <MrKeuner> Slart: that's what I thought thanks
[12:53] <demonspork> ohi, after a sudden power outage, the internet stopped stopped working on my gutsy system. It can ping the gateway and get to any address on the LAN, it just refuses to find the internet.  This computer is on the same internet connection. What can I do to fix it, rebooting hasn't helped, neither has disabling and then reenabling the network adapter
[12:53] <Pici> !session | schnootop
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about session - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:53] <_trine> Pichu0102: gnome
[12:53] <_trine> opps
[12:53] <Pici> !startup | schnootop
[12:53] <ubotu> schnootop: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[12:53] <_trine> Pici: : gnome
[12:53] <Pici> _trine: okay, try the reboot then :)
[12:53] <Malinthe> i have an nvidia geforce fx 5200 card and nvidia-glx-new is installed. tv out is also working. monitor resolution: 1152x864, tv resolution: 1024x768. how can i enable full screen video to the tv? (it's usually available in windows nvidia control panel)
[12:53] <_trine> Pici: ok
[12:53] <cwillu> Malinthe, I think it's nvidia-config
[12:53] <cwillu> nvidia-settings, sorry
[12:54] <alsadk> while deleting apps its ends with error but after try to install mythtv with no enough space
[12:54] <Malinthe> cwillu: i checked there. clone mode is already enabled. but there's no fullscreen video overlay?
[12:54] <alsadk> apps deleted but ends with error
[12:54] <cwillu> Malinthe, it should just work, assuming that you get any output on the tv at all
[12:55] <barduck> Hi. I have a bare ubuntu "console" setup (no Gnome or X) and I would like to be able to automount a USB storage stick when I plug it in and automatically run a script when it is mounted. Can anyone give some pointers how can I achieve this?
[12:55] <Malinthe> cwillu: i get tv output. but when i maximize the video on my monitor, tv cuts the bottom and left. (due to the resolution difference)
[12:55] <cwillu> barduck, hal or udev triggers I think, although it's been a while
[12:56] <cwillu> Malinthe, okay, sounds like overscan issues
[12:56] <barduck> cwillu: so far, I am able to mount the USB stick manualy but can't figure out how to make it automount as soon as I plug it in
[12:57] <barduck> is there any package I need to install ?
[12:57] <barduck> I know the full Ubuntu install mounts it automatically
[12:57] <cwillu> barduck, I'm not sure how tied into gnome that is though
[12:58] <Jack_Sparrow> barduck: I thought there was an automount option for removeable media in the settings
[12:58] <barduck> Jack_Sparrow: which settings ? I am using an alternative install with only the base system
[12:58] <tomppu> flash plugin can't play sounds but Gnome's players can. What should I do?
[12:59] <Jack_Sparrow> barduck: system    preferences  removeable drives and media
[12:59] <cwillu> Jack_Sparrow, he doesn't have gnome installed :p
[12:59] <barduck> Jack_Sparrow: well....I dont have that :)
[12:59] <barduck> I am looking for a way to configure it without VM/Gnome etc
[12:59] <Jack_Sparrow> barduck: sorry, didnt catch that part.
[12:59] <barduck> WM
[12:59] <kirk> if i find sensitive data housed in the open, is it illegal for me to copy it?
[12:59] <WooD> Hi Guys.. any of you know what they do to their destop to have a 3d effect like this ? http://bmpx.backtrace.info/site/Image:Bmpx-0.40-screenshot-9.jpg
[13:00] <cwillu> barduck, I can't give any particular advice, but look at man hald, and the man pages associated with it
[13:00] <kirk> wood beryl
[13:00] <Jack_Sparrow> kirk: yes, depending on your country of origin..  but yes, most likely
[13:00] <_trine> Pici: I have rebooted but gnome-panel does not bring up the panel
[13:00] <jrib> kirk: ask a lawyer, not here please
[13:00] <kirk> ok
[13:00] <cwillu> barduck, you might have to use udev scripts though, I'm not dead sure
[13:00] <demonspork> WooD: that is using compiz-fusion
[13:00] <WooD> kirk, is this hard to install ?
[13:00] <kirk> yes
[13:00] <alsadk> while deleting apps its ends with error but after try to install mythtv with no enough space
[13:00] <WooD> demonspork, ok is it hard to install
[13:01] <barduck> cwillu: I will look there, thanks. Since Ubuntu can do it on the full install I am sure there must be a way...
[13:01] <alsadk> apps deleted but ends with error
[13:01] <kirk> need graphics drivers installed
[13:01] <WooD> kirk, ok
[13:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !beryl
[13:01] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[13:01] <kirk> oh wow
[13:01]  * kirk is behind
[13:01] <kirk> you read that wood?
[13:01] <WooD> kirk, yeah . thanks
[13:01] <cwillu> barduck, udev provides the hook to hal, which provides the easier to use hooks for dbus, which provides gnome or kde the notification to run the mount command, and the appropriate args to provide the mount command
[13:02] <cwillu> barduck, udev creates the files in /dev, and you can add scripts in there, although filtering the device is a bit tricky
[13:02] <demonspork> WooD: Go into System>Preferences>appearance and click on visuall effects
[13:02] <WooD> kirk, that'S mean compiz-fuzion is the one to install
[13:02] <bullgard4> What does the extension '.am' stand for in /usr/src/gnome-power-manager-2.20.0/src/Makefile.am?
[13:02] <WooD> demonspork, I'll check thanks
[13:02] <Jack_Sparrow> WooD: the effect is called cube and you will need to install ccsm to be able to do it
[13:02] <cwillu> barduck, hal will provide dbus messages, so that might be an easier way of running things, presuming that dbus is running on your system (I think it is, but I'm not sure)
[13:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !ccsm
[13:02] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[13:02] <Malinthe> i know that ubuntu is virus free. but should we get an antivirus? it's like this: i get a usb flash drive with windows executables (infected) i copy some files from it and give it to a windows user. isn't it good if i can identify the infected files?
[13:03] <WooD> Jack_Sparrow, ok thanks
[13:03] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[13:03] <demonspork> WooD: if you are using ubuntu gutsy, it is already installed, just you won't be able to configure it very much until you install the settings manager
[13:03] <jrib> bullgard4: automake most likely
[13:03] <cwillu> barduck, I don't know a whole lot about it, I just use udev to manage assigning 8 keyboards to the right head on my multiseats :p
[13:03] <demonspork> ohi, after a sudden power outage, the internet stopped stopped working on my gutsy system. It can ping the gateway and get to any address on the LAN, it just refuses to find the internet.  This computer is on the same internet connection. What can I do to fix it, rebooting hasn't helped, neither has disabling and then reenabling the network adapter
[13:03] <barduck> cwillu: I see...well, thats a good start, I will start my search with udev hooks/hal and see if I can figure out how to write my script there. Will it help to boot the Ubuntu LIVE CD and dig there for how it does it ?
[13:03] <cwillu> demonspork, unplug everything, leave it unplugged overnight (or at least a few minutes)
[13:04] <bullgard4> jrib: Thank you for commenting.
[13:04] <demonspork> cwillu, it works when I boot it into windows
[13:04] <WooD> demonspork, that's cool !! :) I'll try soon
[13:04] <_trine> Pici: it looks like others have had the same problem:- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/143966
[13:04] <cwillu> demonspork, static assigned address on the gutsy?
[13:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Malinthe: There are virus scanners, but they are not needed for ubuntu.  In the case you are giving.  they should be running their own anti-virus in their own windows anyhow.
[13:05] <_trine> Pici: but mine does not come back after typing gnome-panel
[13:05] <cwillu> demonspork, I'd still suspect router confusion (just went through this at a remote location a couple days ago), if it worked reliably before
[13:05] <Chuck_> exit
[13:05] <cwillu> Malinthe, yes, it'd be kind to do that
[13:05] <Malinthe> Jack_Sparrow: :)
[13:05] <Pici> _trine: What version of Ubuntu are you running? Are you running with desktop effects?
[13:06] <cwillu> Malinthe, did you get your tv issue sorted out?
[13:06] <_trine> Pici: 7.10
[13:06] <Pici> _trine: Any custom sort of compiz-fusion version running? Or just the defaults?
[13:06] <_trine> Pichu0102: I have been messing with desktop effects I think the last time I was using it
[13:07] <_trine> Pici: I'm not sure
[13:07] <Pici> _trine: I'm going to suggest that you try asking in #compiz-fusion, they might have a better idea of whats going on here, and may have seen this issue before.
[13:07] <_trine> Pici: I thihnk I have just fixed it
[13:08] <_trine> Pici: I did killall gnome-panel
[13:08] <_trine> Pici: and it came back
[13:08] <_trine> Pici: but now i need to see if it comes back after a reboot
[13:08] <joe__> How do I tell if my machine is a thin client?
[13:08] <cwillu> joe__, how do you mean?
[13:08] <Pici> _trine: weird.
[13:09] <cwillu> joe__, like, booted off the network?
[13:09] <joe__> cwillu: yeah, etc.
[13:09] <_trine> Pici: it is wierd when you kill something and it comes back :)
[13:09] <Pici> joe__: Is this your own personal computer? Installed from the CD?
[13:09] <Jack_Sparrow> barduck: gnome-volume-properties is what gets run when you use the menu option  to mount removeable media...  if that helps
[13:09] <joe__> I am trying to fix an elementary school system setup by someone who's gone and I don't know anything about it.
[13:09] <cwillu> ah, k
[13:09] <cwillu> joe__, how recent are the machines?
[13:09] <cwillu> less than 10 years old?
[13:09] <_trine> Pici: give me another few minutes to try a reboot
[13:09] <dusty-sts> Every time I boot up ubuntu I have to run this command: xrandr --output VFA-0 --mode 1600x1200 to get it to go from 1024x768 (editing the xorg.conf and using tools does not resize it) how can I fix this? - Pici you helped me yeterday to get this farm, how do i get the changes to stick?
[13:09] <joe__> Mmm... probably about 10 years old.
[13:09] <joe__> Old IBM NetVista
[13:09] <barduck> Jack_Sparrow: cool, thanks. I will look at that one as well.
[13:10] <cwillu> joe__, if you're luckishh, you should see something about pxe boot when you reboot them
[13:10] <cwillu> assuming they're a netboot
[13:10] <joe__> I belive they are. WHen i shut down the main server the computers freeze
[13:10] <cwillu> okay
[13:10] <joe__> and I see something about 'ubuntulab' which I learned is a thin / semi-thin setup
[13:10] <cwillu> joe__, ya, almost certainly they are then
[13:10] <joe__> But I was confused by one thing
[13:10] <cwillu> joe__, what's the problem you're seeing?
[13:11] <joe__> Each machine has its own set of users.... and users created on one machine don't propagate. ANd users I create on the server don't propagate.
[13:11] <hipitihop> I get error 'PaHost_OpenStream: could not open /dev/dsp for 0_WRONLY' when I try to use espeak in gutsy, can anyone help ?
[13:11] <cwillu> it could be a netboot using the local storage (i.e., just using _some_ of the resources of the server)
[13:11] <joe__> The problem is they need basic maintenance: some of them are dead and I don't know how to set them up.
[13:12] <cwillu> joe__, I've played with edubuntu a bit, but not in anything approaching a production environment
[13:12] <joe__> cwillu -- well in that case, I still don't know how to manage users. =)
[13:12] <cwillu> joe__, :p
[13:12] <joe__> hmm. drats. I have been in here a million times and can't find any help. I found some edubuntu docs but nothing recent.
[13:12] <cwillu> joe__, do you know what version of edubuntu you're running?
[13:12] <joe__> 7.04
[13:12] <cwillu> joe__, don't give up yet, I've got at least a couple hours of wakeful hours left in me :p
[13:12] <joe__> =)
[13:13] <cwillu> joe__, there's a administrative tool in one of the menu's, something about client manager or something I think?
[13:13] <Harrison___> Hi guys, can someone help me out with desktop effects. If I enable the restricted driver I get the composie extension is not available, if I disable it, I get desktop effects could not be enabled. So I seem to be stuck
[13:13] <cwillu> joe__, I think the file system the thin clients get are in /opt/ltsp
[13:13] <Pici> Harrison___: What video card do you have?
[13:13] <Harrison___> Video card is an ATI radeon xpress 200m
[13:13] <cwillu> joe__, and the dead clients, how dead are they?
[13:13] <WooD> any of y ou have tried songbird  ? this seems to be a pretty good Music Player
[13:13] <Pici> Harrison___: Okay, let me check something
[13:14] <Harrison___> Thank you
[13:14] <joe__> Probably nothing FSCK wouldn't fix.
[13:14] <cwillu> Harrison___, I think you need to run xgl for the restricted driver to work
[13:14] <Nibblyn> Hi! Have a prob with a Radeon 9200. Reconfigured with dpkg, using now ATI driver (open). Should it be Radeon instead? poor scrolling performance...
[13:14] <schnootop> what is a good rar unzipper which can handle archived rars
[13:14] <Harrison___> is that as simple as apt-get xgl?
[13:14] <Harrison___> or is it then running xconfig as well?
[13:14] <jrib> !rar > schnootop (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:14] <l337_n166a> aye
[13:14] <cwillu> Nibblyn, shouldn't make a difference, but if you're running compiz, scrolling performance has issues on that card
[13:15] <cwillu> Nibblyn, what does glxinfo | grep -i direct say?
[13:15] <dusty-sts> Every time I boot up ubuntu I have to run this command: xrandr --output VFA-0 --mode 1600x1200 to get it to go from 1024x768 (editing the xorg.conf and using tools does not resize it) how can I fix this? - Pici you helped me yeterday to get this farm, how do i get the changes to stick?
[13:15] <dusty-sts> anyone?
[13:15] <Pici> Harrison___: its xserver-xgl
[13:15] <l337_n166a> is this the best place to ask for help with apache2/php5 setup?
[13:15] <cwillu> dusty-sts, what video card?
[13:15] <joe__> cwillu -- i've got a ubuntu boot disk but it doesn't bring up the install on this one particular HD.
[13:16] <cwillu> joe__, cd or diskette?
[13:16] <joe__> CD
[13:16] <Harrison___> ok apt-get install xserver-xgl running
[13:16] <hipitihop> Can anyone help me with an espeak problem ?
[13:16] <cwillu> joe__, the bios may not be set to boot off the cd
[13:16] <joe__> it gives me 'Start or Install Ubuntu' option, however.
[13:16] <markvandenborre> I have a postscript printer with a jetdirect module
[13:16] <joe__> but after that I just get bad sda warnings and, bleh.
[13:16] <l337_n166a> as in they're both installed but when i load a page from the browser that is php the browser (ff/opera) will try to save the page instead of opening it.
[13:16] <markvandenborre> printing to it works fine, except for printing pdf documents
[13:16] <cwillu> joe__, does it bring up the cd boot menu at least, or what does it say?
[13:16] <cwillu> joe__, okay
[13:16] <dusty-sts> cwillu, Radeon 9200 Pro
[13:16] <markvandenborre> this is on a clean gutsy install
[13:16] <Harrison___> I'll re-enable the restricted driver and reboot? or get some x-config done?
[13:16] <jrib> !lamp > l337_n166a (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:16] <cwillu> dusty-sts, compiz enabled?
[13:16] <markvandenborre> this is an _extremely_ common use case
[13:17] <markvandenborre> is anyone else having similar problems?
[13:17] <Nibblyn> cwillu: will probe...
[13:17] <cwillu> joe__, I _think_ you need to add nodma to the boot line
[13:17] <jrib> l337_n166a: follow the "troubleshooting" section for php5 on the wiki page ubotu linked you to
[13:17] <markvandenborre> I see a lot of bugs in launchpad, but no clear answers
[13:17] <dusty-sts> cwillu, Not sure default ubuntu install
[13:17] <_trine> Pici: I just rebooted but again there is no panel
[13:17] <cwillu> dusty-sts, do the menu's fade in and out?
[13:17] <markvandenborre> any hints?
[13:17] <l337_n166a> thanks!
[13:17] <Nibblyn> cwillu: direct rendering: Yes
[13:17] <cwillu> markvandenborre, how to pdf's fail?
[13:18] <joe__> wow, you're smart cwillu. =)
[13:18] <joe__> What did that do?
[13:18] <dusty-sts> cwillu, yes
[13:18] <cwillu> Nibblyn, okay, go to system|preferences|appearance|and set the fancyness level to the lowest setting
[13:18] <cwillu> bah
[13:18] <markvandenborre> cwillu: evince hangs on printing
[13:18] <joe__> Nevermind.
[13:18] <joe__> =)
[13:18] <cwillu> dusty-sts, do what I just said, not Nibblyn
[13:18] <_trine> Pici: I just killed it again and it popped up again
[13:18] <kyle_> Hi how do i find out my computers ip address in ubuntu?
[13:18] <joe__> cwillu -- I am back to error messages.
[13:18] <tarzeau> kyle_: open a terminal, say /sbin/ifconfig
[13:18] <hipitihop> Can anyone help with a Festival problem ?
[13:18] <cwillu> one sec, I took one too many people at a time :p
[13:19] <joe__> Sorry. =)
[13:19] <joe__> no problem
[13:19] <Pici> _trine: Did you try askin in #compiz-fusion as well?
[13:19] <_trine> Pici: I wonder if this is not gnome panel that's popping up
[13:19] <cwillu> markvandenborre, give me 5 minutes :p
[13:19] <cwillu> joe__, I'll brb
[13:19] <Nibblyn> cwillu: :)
[13:19] <dusty-sts> cwillu, what did u say?
[13:19] <_trine> Pici: not yet
[13:19] <dusty-sts> ah
[13:19] <Pici> _trine: Why would you think that?
[13:19] <cwillu> Nibblyn, dusty-sts I need to review what I said to both of you:  two people with the same vid card completely threw me off :p
[13:19] <dusty-sts> lol
[13:19] <dusty-sts> i took the fanciness off
[13:19] <Nibblyn> lol
[13:19] <dusty-sts> visual effects = none
[13:20] <kyle_> it says the programs currently not installed tarzeau
[13:20] <kyle_> ;o
[13:20] <cwillu> dusty-sts, you were slow scrolling right?
[13:20] <duudii> Here's a problem for ya: Why can't i uninstall xorg-driver-fglrx? It tells me dpkg-divert: rename involves overwriting `/etc/xdg/compiz/compiz-manager' with different file `/etc/xdg/compiz/compiz-manager.ubuntu', not allowed
[13:20] <dusty-sts> no
[13:20] <cwillu> dusty-sts, okay, fanciness off should solve your problem
[13:20] <_trine> Pici: well first let me tell you that I'm new to linux and I was wondering if there was something else that could pop up as a panel that looked like gnome-panel
[13:20] <cwillu> Nibblyn, you're gonna have the same problem as dusty-sts
[13:20] <dusty-sts> cwillu, i cant resize X ?
[13:20] <duudii> and  Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) :/
[13:21] <cwillu> dusty-sts, ?
[13:21] <_trine> Pici: because I can't understand how it came reappear if i just killed it
[13:21] <Pici> _trine: no, if you do killall gnome-panel, it will attempt to restart itself.
[13:21] <duudii> This also keeps from installing anything via synaptic or apt-get, etc...
[13:21] <_trine> Pici: ah I see
[13:21] <bullgard4> jrib: Thank you for your help.
[13:21] <Pici> _trine: If you relogin, and click where the panel should be, does it appear?
[13:21] <dusty-sts> Every time I boot up ubuntu I have to run this command: xrandr --output VFA-0 --mode 1600x1200 to get it to go from 1024x768 (editing the xorg.conf and using tools does not resize it) how can I fix this? - Pici you helped me yeterday to get this farm, how do i get the changes to stick?
[13:21] <cwillu> bah
[13:21] <dusty-sts> cwillu, that was my question
[13:21] <cwillu> dusty-sts, I'm sorry, I got people confused, and then reconfused :p
[13:21] <_trine> Pici: I will try that
[13:22] <dusty-sts> lol
[13:22] <dusty-sts> thats ok
[13:22] <dusty-sts> stop multitasking! :p
[13:22] <cwillu> dusty-sts, are you running the restricted driver?
[13:22] <cwillu> I'm trying ;p
[13:23] <cwillu> Nibblyn, what does glxinfo|grep -i direct say?
[13:23] <_trine> Pici: no it does not
[13:23] <Nibblyn> dusty-sts: fell free to ask... will wait
[13:23] <cwillu> dusty-sts, do you know if you're running fglrx, or the radeon driver (open source driver)
[13:23] <cwillu> Nibblyn, go ahead with that command
[13:23] <cwillu> I can handle two at a time :p
[13:23] <cwillu> just not 4 :p
[13:24] <Nibblyn> cwillu: direct rendering: yes
[13:24] <laughzilla> how can i unpack a .rar file ? i installed "rar" via synaptic and when i run "rar -x /filename" nothing happens
[13:24] <cwillu> Nibblyn, compiz isn't running right now?
[13:24] <laughzilla> and there seems to be no GUI for rar
[13:24] <dusty-sts> cwillu, i put 'radeon' into xorg.conf IT DID use 'ati' im not sure if thats right
[13:24] <dusty-sts> cwillu, it appears tho my card is recognised automagically
[13:24] <cwillu> dusty-sts, same driver actually
[13:24] <dusty-sts> ok
[13:24] <cwillu> dusty-sts, yep, good
[13:24] <_trine> Pici: which channel was it again was it compiz you said
[13:25] <Nibblyn> cwillu: pardon me... wat is compiz?? ;)
[13:25] <cwillu> dusty-sts, they just changed how the radeon is configured in 7.10
[13:25] <cwillu> Nibblyn, fancy graphics on the desktop
[13:25] <l337_n166a> compiz is awesome :p
[13:25] <RulerOf> Irc via blackberry. This is cooollll
[13:25] <laughzilla> the .rar file is actually multiple .rar files (it's a big file downloaded from remote server)
[13:25] <cwillu> Nibblyn, do the menus fade in when you click them?
[13:25] <dusty-sts> l337_n166a, yeah.
[13:25] <l337_n166a> (but  way too powerful for my laptop !!)
[13:25] <Nibblyn> cwillu: no
[13:25] <Pici> _trine: #compiz-fusion
[13:25] <_trine> Pici: tnx
[13:25] <duudii> unrar e *.rar
[13:25] <dusty-sts> cwillu, now what?
[13:25] <jschitto> could someone give me their opinion whether a vt6421 pci sata card can work in ubuntu? i am reading conflicting answers and im really confused
[13:25] <laughzilla> thanks duudii
[13:26] <cwillu> dusty-sts, I'm posting an xorg.conf file that should work for you
[13:26] <cwillu> dusty-sts, i was using a radeon 9250 up until about a month ago with dual screens
[13:27] <apdb> anyone got any experience with vsftpd? I would like all users to be in the same directory when login on to the FTP, not their home dir's
[13:27] <dusty-sts> cwillu, oooh sweet can you post the config for dual screens as i want to plug another monitore into it
[13:27]  * dusty-sts buys cwillu a pint.
[13:27] <Nibblyn> cwillu: the windows make a nice 3D effect... but I haven't enable any special effect...
[13:27] <cwillu> Nibblyn, okay, 2 seconds :p
[13:27] <Nibblyn> please...
[13:27] <cwillu> dusty-sts, http://nokia.cwillu.com/xorg.conf
[13:28] <neuro_sys> .
[13:28] <Nibblyn> I men please.. fell free... will wait
[13:28] <cwillu> dusty-sts, you'll need to tweak it for your resolutions, but that'll set it just like the new xrandr command does
[13:28] <neuro_sys> .
[13:28] <cwillu> Nibblyn, what resolution are you running?
[13:28] <dusty-sts> cwillu, can i just cp it to /etc/X11 and reboot?
[13:29] <cwillu> dusty-sts, copy you old xorg first, and then just hit ctrl+alt+backspace when you copy the new one in
[13:29] <cwillu> it should work, although it'll be running at 1280x1024 on each screen (assuming you have two)
[13:29] <Nibblyn> cwillu: started with a Vesa (accepted only 1280), switch to Ati (now running 11xx)
[13:30] <cwillu> dusty-sts, there's also a glitch on the 9250 where the vga port is disabled on boot if you don't have anything plugged in, in which case you might actually need to reboot, but if you're just using one monitor, that xorg will work (in a weird fashion, as it'll still have the dual screen size)
[13:30] <cwillu> Nibblyn, okay, so you're running the restricted driver right now?
[13:31] <Nibblyn> cwillu: no. When I say ATI i always mean Open. No fglrx installed.
[13:31] <cwillu> Nibblyn, okay
[13:31] <dusty-sts> cwillu, I cp /etc/X11 and rebooted. what your saying to me is if i plug another card in before it boots up it will activate dual screens, if not i wont?
[13:31] <dusty-sts> s/i/it/
[13:32] <cwillu> dusty-sts, not another card, another monitor on the same card:  9250 should have an svga and a dvi port on it?
[13:32] <napster_> test
[13:32] <laughzilla> thanks duudii -- i did that, and then it went through the list of files and at the end said "No file to extract."  except ... there are files to extract. any idea how to fix that?
[13:32] <Nibblyn> cwillu: and that was my dilemma... I see ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO] , driver at in xorg.conf
[13:32] <cwillu> Nibblyn, are you running 7.04 or 7.10?
[13:32] <dusty-sts> cwillu, a box appeared saying ubuntu ois running in low graphics mode, your screen and graphics card could not be detected correctly to use higher res vis effects or multiple screens u need to configure the display yourself..
[13:32] <joe__> Hmm.... I see the /home folder is a network folder.
[13:32] <Nibblyn> cwillu: 7.10
[13:32] <sarkie> Hi, I have some workspaces on the bottom right, but they are 1/2 the size of the normal, but are only "1" row.
[13:33] <niskyd> nick threttle
[13:33] <dusty-sts> cwillu, it only gives me 800x600 ?
[13:33] <Nibblyn> cwillu: driver Ati and not Radeon. but, as you said, it won't make the difference
[13:33] <cwillu> dusty-sts, okay, you'll probably need to delete the virtual line, and the left/right lines
[13:33] <cwillu> dusty-sts, ya, it's confused by the multimonitor sounds like
[13:34] <cwillu> Nibblyn, ya, the ati driver picks the radeon driver for that card
[13:34] <Nibblyn> cwillu: hum, that is ok then...
[13:34] <dusty-sts> cwillu, what lines?
[13:34] <cwillu> Nibblyn, what happens if you disable composite in xorg.conf and restart x?  (the url I gave dusty-sts above has the section you need to do that at the bottom)
[13:35] <cwillu> dusty-sts, one sec
[13:35] <sven__> i love the font Purisa xD
[13:35] <Nibblyn> cwillu: give me time to reread please ;P
[13:35] <cwillu> dusty-sts, actually, just try deleting the Busid "PCI:2:0:0" line, forgot that was in there :p
[13:36] <cwillu> Nibblyn, just ping me when you're ready
[13:36] <cwillu> joe__, what's the word?
[13:36] <joe__> Back. Getting a copy of knoppix burned to deal with the messed up computers.
[13:36] <Nibblyn> cwillu: ok, thanks
[13:36] <joe__> I am poking around online looking for documentation on how to manage users.
[13:36] <cwillu> joe__, nodma didn't work you said?
[13:37] <joe__> nodma didn't work. I put it after the -- in the boot line.
[13:37] <joe__> should it be before? is that a comment signifier?
[13:37] <BB88> Hello. How can I change the Login Screen for Ubuntu?
[13:38] <cwillu_> hmmmmmm
[13:38] <cwillu_> that was annoying
[13:38] <cwillu_> joe__, how much of that did you get?
[13:38] <cwillu_> !edubuntu
[13:38] <ubotu> Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[13:39] <joe__> How much of the error?
[13:39] <joe__> It goes and goes for 20 minutes.
[13:39] <dusty-sts> cwillu, ok rebooted and it appears to be working but in normal 1024x768 res|
[13:39] <cwillu_> joe__, that was with nodma?  do you know that the cd worked?
[13:39] <joe__> I get .... right up until 'can't access job tty'
[13:39] <cwillu_> joe__, that was with nodma?  do you know that the cd worked?
[13:39] <joe__> cwillu -- I know the CD worked because I get the STart or Install screen but when I put in nodma to the boot instructions, no difference.
[13:40] <dusty-sts> no its doing 1280x1024 but i want 1600x1200
[13:40] <cwillu_> joe__, the cd can be bad and still get to the start screen though
[13:40] <joe__> hmm
[13:40] <joe__> Ok, I'll burn another.
[13:40] <cwillu_> joe__, run the verify cd option, and check that;  do it on a known good drive first though
[13:40] <joe__> Ok.
[13:40] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, one sec
[13:41] <cwillu_> joe__, http://www.edubuntu.org/Documentation will probably be helpful
[13:41] <dusty-sts> cwillu, when i run xrandr it says maximum res my card can do is 2560x1024
[13:41] <dusty-sts> lol
[13:41] <dusty-sts> that would be wirrd
[13:41] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, with a big enough monitor :)
[13:41] <joe__> WHat kind of verification will I get when I test it for defects?
[13:41] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, that's actually the limit for multiple monitors on the card as well
[13:41] <dusty-sts> cool
[13:41] <joe__> WIll it just continue on afterwards if its ok?
[13:41] <dusty-sts> will multiple monitors work?
[13:42] <dusty-sts> now if i just plug them in?
[13:42] <cwillu_> joe__, it'll read all the file/packages, and verify they match the checksums
[13:42] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, sorry, back up a tiny bit ;p
[13:42] <dusty-sts> ;)
[13:42] <joe__> Ok, it doesn't seem to do any of that. It just gave me progress bar for a while and started doing the same thing again.
[13:42] <joe__> *burning latest Knoppix now* =)
[13:42] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, okay, to set the default resolution, add the resolution you want to the modes lines ("1600x1200@60" should work), and then set the preferred mode to "1600x1200"
[13:43] <dusty-sts> k
[13:43] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, you're using just the single video card right?
[13:43] <willluongo> Hello, after I restored my mysql backup all of my tables are read only. Can anyone help me restore write privileges?
[13:43] <dusty-sts> yes but i have a savage 3d card in there as well but i just want to use my radeon
[13:43] <cwillu_> willluongo, #mysql might be able to help more
[13:43] <AzMoo> Hey, is there any way to see what options the kernel was compiled with?
[13:43] <dusty-sts> can i use the radeon for one screen and the savage for the other? cause the radeon only has 1 vgfa and 1 dvi and i aint got a dvi monito
[13:44] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, ya, just using the single card is preferable, in that acceleration isn't Not Trivial to set up across two cards even if they're identical
[13:44] <willluongo> cwillu_:I am asking there as well, it is running on ubuntu server though, so I was hoping someone  here had some insight.
[13:44] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, you can buy a dvi->vgi adapter for about 4-5 dollars
[13:44] <cwillu_> willluongo, np;  I don't know much about mysql though, but keep asking
[13:44] <cwillu_> (in the sense of, every few minutes, not every few seconds :p)
[13:45] <flacom> hey... how can I fix this... E: Couldn't configure pre-depend python-central for python-apt, probably a dependency cycle.
[13:45] <flacom> ?
[13:45] <dusty-sts> cwillu, ok
[13:45] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, granted that that doesn't help you today, but it's a much simpler setup (i.e., the config file you have will work, wheras doing two video cards is much trickier)
[13:45] <dusty-sts> cwillu, say i get an adapter plug it on the dvi, plug the monitor in and it will JUST automatically work?
[13:45] <LjL> flacom: while trying to install what?
[13:45] <flacom> is a dist-upgrade
[13:46] <cwillu_> joe__, let me know how it's going
[13:46] <cwillu_> Nibblyn, any luck?
[13:46] <LjL> flacom: not from a release to another, i hope
[13:46] <flacom> from feisty to gutsy
[13:46] <cwillu_> who was having the printer problem?  you scrolled off the top of my screen, sorry
[13:46] <cwillu_> flacom, apt-get dist-upgrade, or update-manager ?
[13:46] <NET||abuse> hey guys.. i notice on adobe that the linux flash install is 9.0.115 and just checking my current version i'm on 9.0.48 which i installed from the deb packages, so is it required to manually rev the installed deb? or should the deb get updated seperately?
[13:47] <flacom> apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:47] <NET||abuse> just i havn't received an update in time
[13:47] <LjL> flacom, that's not the way to upgrade
[13:47] <cwillu_> flacom, any particular reason you're trying to hose your system? :p
[13:47] <LjL> !upgrade | flacom
[13:47] <ubotu> flacom: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[13:47] <cwillu_> flacom, I've done it, but it ain't pretty
[13:47] <flacom> :(
[13:47] <cwillu_> flacom, undo the changes to /etc/apt/sources.list, and then run update-manager, and let it run the distribution upgrade that way
[13:48] <cwillu_> flacom, it's got scripts to handle the corner cases of the upgrade
[13:48] <dusty-sts> cwillu, hrm it seems to have gone to 1280 again
[13:48] <gorilla3d> im having an issue with font, I've had to chnage my fonts to font siza 64 because they are soooooooo tiny on my monitor and I've set the display to 1024x768 with no effect to the fonts. Anyone know how to fix this? every app and firefox displays text soooo small I cant read it
[13:48] <VSpike> Hmm.. that's annoying.  Screenlets are almost really good but ultimately just too flakey to use
[13:48] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, pastebin me what you have for xorg.conf right now
[13:48] <flacom> ok
[13:48] <cwillu_> !pastebin
[13:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[13:48] <dusty-sts> k
[13:48] <VSpike> Can anyone help?  I have to use Thunderbird for mail, but I really miss a notification area or panel new mail notifier, especially when using multiple desktops...  I need a biff or mail checker that can work either with IMAP or Maildir++ but it needs to be able to detect mail in any folder as I use maildrop to route mail to folders
[13:48] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, is it every program, or just firefox?
[13:49] <gorilla3d> cwillu everything
[13:49] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, where are you setting the font size?
[13:49] <dusty-sts> cwillu, http://pastebin.com/m4dc81f96
[13:49] <anna__> hu
[13:50] <gorilla3d> cwillu_: the "User Interface" settings
[13:50] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, my bad:  I'm not sure that video card will do dual 1600x1200+any other resolution and still have 3d acceleration.  That said, I forgot to tell you to change the Virtual line to match (just set it to 1600x1200)
[13:51] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, 1600 1200 rather (no x)
[13:51] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, 7.10 or 7.04?
[13:51] <dusty-sts> ik
[13:51] <gorilla3d> cwillu_: 7.10
[13:51] <tanlaan> !kde
[13:51] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[13:52] <dusty-sts> cwillu, what will happen when the other screen bots?
[13:52] <tanlaan> !kde4
[13:52] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. - KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/
[13:52] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, okay, hit details in that window, which should open "Fond Rendering Details".  Increase the dots per inch to 102 or so, and see if its better
[13:52] <dusty-sts> cwillu, the tv is going to be my other screen :)
[13:52] <dusty-sts> cwillu, i have a laptop with a radeon x700 running ubuntu, u got xorg for that? :)
[13:53] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, I haven't run any of the newer radeon's yet;  I'm not sure if the radeon driver supports it
[13:53] <dusty-sts> im running using the driver on this comp now
[13:53] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, if the radeon driver _does_ support it, it'll be basically the same file, just different resolutions to match the monitor
[13:53] <dusty-sts> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility X700 (PCIE)
[13:54] <dusty-sts> sweet
[13:54] <dusty-sts> I have an odd problem wiuth it now
[13:54] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, scrolling around? :p
[13:54] <dusty-sts> cwillu_, when i boot to x its obviously 1600 x 1200, but the screen res gnome program thinks its 640x480
[13:54] <dusty-sts> lol
[13:55] <dusty-sts> other than that it works
[13:55] <dusty-sts> what ya mean about scrolling?
[13:55] <dusty-sts> my monitor is a 19" dell crt
[13:55] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, thought you might have been running into a virtual screen size thingy
[13:55] <tanlaan> its fine to install something like KDE4 alongside with GNOME right? I just choose which one I want to run at session start *login*
[13:55] <dusty-sts> ah
[13:55] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, I don't think there's much you can do about that;  the gnome config doesn't yet understand how radeon's do accelerated multi-head
[13:55] <LjL> tanlaan: yes, only thing is that your gnome menu will be "polluted" with kde apps and vice versa
[13:56] <dusty-sts> cwillu_, so when i want to get it working with two monitors what not i just purely edit the file?
[13:56] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, which is a nuisance for hot plugging monitors on a laptop for instance, because you _need_ to use xrandr to set it up instead of a nice and easy gui
[13:56] <dusty-sts> yea
[13:56] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, pretty much;  virtual needs to be the total size
[13:56] <dusty-sts> perhaps write to gnome-developers about it
[13:56] <dusty-sts> cwillu_, well thankyou VERY much for your help.
[13:56] <cwillu_> np
[13:56] <dusty-sts> i'm going to try it on my laptop.
[13:57] <tanlaan> LJL: Hmm...Maybe I'll grab a live CD of Kubuntu with KDE4, I also need to set up a seperate home partition so I can change installs
[13:57] <cwillu_> joe__, still hanging in?
[13:57] <tanlaan> LjL:Thanks for the warning though =]
[13:57] <gorilla3d> cwillu_: hm... its not there is only font rendering options and changing  the font size/style
[13:57] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, do you remember who the last person I was talking to was?  the printer guy?  he went off the top of my scrollback :(
[13:57] <mneisen> Hi, is there a way to change the number of lines and columns in the console (not Konsole!)? i.e. I want to have more text on my screen, using a text-only system (ubuntu server).
[13:57] <joe__> cwillu -- yeah. just looking at the various computers and seeing what's wrong
[13:57] <joe__> One is missing the 'GDM' group. I wonder how that happened?
[13:57] <joe__> Found a few people with the same problem.
[13:58] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, do you see the rendering thing for monochrome, bestshapes, subpixel smoothing,e tc?
[13:58] <joe__> I am still frustrated as to how to add users to the system. Adding them at client nor server level does anything
[13:58] <cwillu_> joe__, did you get the doc link I sent?
[13:58] <gorilla3d> cwillu_: anti-ali..., hinting, sub-pixel
[13:58] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, you see it?
[13:58] <joe__> yeah.
[13:59] <joe__> The only setup I see for thin-client is diskless. And these aren't diskless.
[13:59] <rvz5423> cwillu_: 14:16 < markvandenborre> I have a postscript printer with a jetdirect module
[13:59] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, the very top of that window (smoothing, hinting, subpixel order)
[13:59] <theCarpenter> why the hell is ubuntu asking me to download an un-auntheticatable openSSH-client/server?
[13:59] <Nibblyn_> cwillu: sorry, lag problems, could you tell me how to check if compiz is enabled?
[13:59] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, should say Resolution: [96] dots per inch
[13:59] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, change it to 102
[13:59] <cwillu_> rvz5423, thanks :)
[13:59] <rvz5423> cwillu_: but markvandenborre left
[13:59] <cwillu_> rvz5423, bah, he's gone
[13:59] <cwillu_> I see that
[13:59] <gorilla3d> cwillu_: http://imagehost.labs.gorilla3d.com/image/view/d00d2a914db213ecf013088084fcbb71
[13:59] <EDinNY> I just upgraded to gutsy and for some reason when I click on a link in an email in Evolution it does not launch Firefox...how can I fix this?
[13:59] <theCarpenter> either my repo lists have been hacked, or someone fucked up at openssh/ubuntu HQ
[14:00] <ChrisGibbs> !info dmraid
[14:00] <ubotu> dmraid: Device-Mapper Software RAID support tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0.rc13-2ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 181 kB, installed size 612 kB
[14:00] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, ahhhhhh, xubuntu?
[14:00] <LjL> !language | theCarpenter
[14:00] <ubotu> theCarpenter: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[14:00] <gorilla3d> cwillu_: ~_~ yeah sorry
[14:00] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, np
[14:00] <rvz5423> cwillu_: btw, i used irssi's /lastlog command to search the printer line
[14:00] <theCarpenter> !language | gorilla3d
[14:00] <ubotu> gorilla3d: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[14:00] <theCarpenter> whoa!
[14:00] <Slart> theCarpenter: got any 3rd party repos configured?
[14:00] <theCarpenter> that's cool =]
[14:00] <cwillu_> rvz5423, does that work in xchat? :p
[14:00] <theCarpenter> Slart: yes, one for a little game called TASpring
[14:00] <hataricus> hi guys
[14:00] <rvz5423> cwillu_: don't know
[14:00] <gorilla3d> theCarpenter: ???
[14:01] <theCarpenter> gorilla3d: sorry, was just testing it out ;)
[14:01] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, okay, let me think
[14:01] <hataricus> does anyone know an irc channel for support with ZAPPING ?
[14:01] <rvz5423> cwillu_: just type /lastlog printer
[14:01] <Slart> theCarpenter: I haven't seen any updates about ssh lately.. you running standard gutsy?
[14:01] <theCarpenter> Slart: is there any way to check where the package is asking me to download it from, from within the update manager?
[14:01] <cwillu_> rvz5423, so close :)
[14:01] <theCarpenter> Slart: yes
[14:01] <hataricus> does anyone know an irc channel for support with the ZAPPING app ?
[14:01] <cwillu_> rvz5423, scrollback is gone for that too :p
[14:01] <theCarpenter> Slart: hence my worry =]
[14:01] <mneisen> Hi, is there a way to change the number of lines and columns in the console (not Konsole!)? i.e. I want to have more text on my screen, using a text-only system (ubuntu server).
[14:02] <cwillu_> rvz5423, it goes back to me asking dusty about it
[14:02] <cwillu_> good to know still
[14:02] <Slart> theCarpenter: I don't think so.. but you can take a look in synaptic.. look at the ssh package and see what version it is.. check if there are more than one ssh package available etc
[14:02] <dgjones> theCarpenter, try updating your sources using the reload button in synaptic, i had a problem with that at the weekend, but after a reload, everything worked fine
[14:02] <iamnewb> what command do i gi
[14:02] <Kasplatt> ay , I want to install aiglx/compiz fusion effects :)
[14:02] <axi_booy> do you speak turkey?
[14:02] <axi_booy> do you speak turkey?
[14:02] <Slart> theCarpenter: indeed.. I would get suspicious too.
[14:02] <dgjones> !tr | axi_booy
[14:02] <ubotu> axi_booy: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[14:02] <Kasplatt> I Probably only need Aiglx now
[14:02] <iamnewb> what command do i give to see if xinetd is running?
[14:03] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, open a terminal and try running gnome-appearance-properties
[14:03] <mneisen> How do I change the resolution of the console on a text-only system?
[14:03] <cwillu_> iamnewb, ps aux|grep xinetd would be my standby
[14:03] <Slart> mneisen: by using the vga=??? option in grub
[14:03] <iamnewb> cwillu_: thanks
[14:03] <cwillu_> iamnewb, pidof xinetd will also work as long as it's not a script
[14:04] <EDinNY> doboo opI spopeak Toberkoby?
[14:04] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, still there?
[14:04] <Slart> mneisen: you can start with vga=ask to try to find a vga mode that works for you..
[14:04] <Kasplatt> how do I install AIGLX for compiz ?
[14:04] <iamnewb> cwillu_: command pidof returns a number. is this the pid number?
[14:04] <theCarpenter> my installed openssh versions (server and client) are 1:4.6p1-5build1
[14:04] <Kasplatt> I dont know what the aiglx package is called or something , cant find it.
[14:04] <cwillu_> iamnewb, should be; handy for command lines
[14:05] <mneisen> Slart: Thanks for the tip. Did that already, it seems not to have any modes with more than 80 chars per line.
[14:05] <iamnewb> cwillu_nice thanks
[14:05] <theCarpenter> i'm being told by Synaptic that the latest version is 1:4.6p1-5ubuntu0.1
[14:05] <gorilla3d> cwillu_: yeah I thionk I may have it though
[14:05] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, okay
[14:05] <mneisen> Slart: That's why I ask for changing the *resolution*, like to 1280x1024.
[14:05] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, the gnome dialog is nice, modifies everything right as you change it
[14:05] <toni_> i have compiled my dsdt.aml table and putted it in /etc/initramfs-tool, but at reboot it says me that there isn't any in initrd...why?
[14:06] <Slart> mneisen: then I don't know of any way.. that was all I had .. =/
[14:06] <Nibblyn_> system-preferences-appearance-visual effects: is that for enabling compiz?
[14:06] <theCarpenter> repeat: my installed openssh versions (server and client) are 1:4.6p1-5build1   ;i'm being told by Synaptic that the latest version is 1:4.6p1-5ubuntu0.1
[14:06] <theCarpenter> can anyone verify that please?
[14:06] <cwillu_> mneisen, I think there's a radeonfb module you can use if you've got a radeon;  might be an equivilent for any vesa device
[14:06] <jrib> !info openssh-server | theCarpenter
[14:06] <ubotu> thecarpenter: openssh-server: secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.6p1-5ubuntu0.1 (gutsy), package size 241 kB, installed size 640 kB
[14:06] <Slart> theCarpenter: same here
[14:06] <cwillu_> mneisen, but I haven't done much with that
[14:07] <cwillu_> mneisen, "apropos fb" might give you some pointers
[14:07] <jrib> Nibblyn_: yes
[14:07] <theCarpenter> interesting
[14:07] <Nibblyn_> jrib: thanks
[14:07] <mneisen> cwillu_: Thanks. Will check that,
[14:07] <theCarpenter> so it looks like the latest version im told to upgrade to is the *right* version
[14:07] <MrKeuner> hi all, does anybody know what application is used to record the screencasts on screencasts.ubuntu.com?
[14:07] <NoelJB> theCarpenter, I'm booted on Hardy, but apt-cache show ${package} should give you the details
[14:08] <theCarpenter> but again, what happened to the authnetication keys? i havent fooled with my sources in ages
[14:08] <theCarpenter> something weird about this, hopefully nothing to bad though
[14:08] <theCarpenter> hopefully my sources list just got corrupted or something :X
[14:08] <dgjones> MrKeuner, this should help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastTeam/RecordingScreencasts
[14:09] <gilson> algum Brasileiro ?
[14:09] <jrib> !br | gilson
[14:09] <ubotu> gilson: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[14:09] <dgjones> !br | gilson
[14:09] <cwillu_> k, I'm outta here!
[14:09] <cwillu_> gl everyone ;p
[14:09] <MrKeuner> dgjones: yes. thank you
[14:09] <stefanv> Hey all, I have noticed interesting suspend/hibernate behaviour on my laptop: suspend works fine, but when automatically suspended by power manager, the notebook wakes up and complains that it couldn't suspend (even though it did) and the does a hibernate.  has anyone else seen this?
[14:10] <jschitto> i have two vt6420 sata controllers... is it possible to get ubuntu to see both?
[14:10] <theCarpenter> i dunno, it still seems odd
[14:10] <theCarpenter> its absolutely critical that ssh-related packages and programs are *rock solid*
[14:11] <EDinNY> jschitto, try "sudo dmesg" and see if it found both
[14:11] <theCarpenter> man,,,, i dunno.
[14:11] <EDinNY> jschitto: or look at /var/log/messages
[14:11] <jschitto> i will plug it back in EDinNY to see but it only shows up once in lspci
[14:11] <Xintruder> hi
[14:12] <Xintruder> I have a compiz problem, #compiz told me to reinstall my video drivers. How do I know if I have the right ones installed?
[14:12] <theCarpenter> i must just end up reinstalling gutsy... i've been having random stability issues with it anyway
[14:12] <theCarpenter> it tends to crash a lot on the screen saver...
[14:12] <Gucio> Hi! Whats better option for LAN performance of 4 Ubuntu machines NFS or SMB?
[14:12] <EDinNY> jschitto: oops...there should be a way to tell it to look for it...it might involve /etc/modules
[14:13] <erUSUL> Xintruder: which is your graphic card?
[14:13] <Xintruder> nVidia 7400\
[14:13] <Ximal> Anyone here know how I can make my windows black see through ... like high contrast ...
[14:14] <erUSUL> Xintruder: check System>Admin>Restricted Drivers
[14:14] <stefanv> Gucio: NFS should be faster, but a person has to be a bit more careful with security
[14:14] <Ximal> I'm trying just to get my windows to be high contrast but not the whole theme...
[14:14] <iamnewb> i've just installed xinetd using synaptic to run with inetd. do i have to do anything else?
[14:14] <Xintruder> erUSUL: I have two enabled drivers there
[14:15] <jschitto> any idea EDinNY? i am newbie
[14:15] <Xintruder> erUSUL: one of them is: nVidia accelarated driver
[14:16] <iamnewb> i've just installed xinetd using synaptic to run with inetd. do i have to do anything else? like configure it?
[14:16] <EDinNY> jschitto, I have not needed to do this since the 2.4 kernel and it has changed
[14:17] <Xintruder> erUSUL: now what do I do?
[14:17] <borndeer> I'd like  some good UML tools for database design, any tip?
[14:17] <joe__> in the ubuntu rescue disk, I am unable to fdisk /dev/hda
[14:17] <joe__> says 'unable to read' <--- dead HD?
[14:17] <reya276> morning
[14:18] <ikonia> joe__ what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[14:18] <joe__> 7.10
[14:18] <EDinNY> jschitto: the man page is no help...searching
[14:18] <erUSUL> Xintruder: if it is enabled your graphic drivers are installed and running ok...
[14:18] <joe__> HD starts up with lots of errors. I got to a terminal but I can't fsck or fdisk
[14:18] <EDinNY> jschitto: when you boot the machine does the bios find both cards?
[14:18] <Gucio> stefanv: thank you! I'm behind router with built in firewall. Does it make any security diff for NFS?
[14:18] <Pici> !nickspam > diafic (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[14:18] <reya276> Does anyone know what is the default URL for a local Bugzilla install
[14:18] <ikonia> joe__ you'll find it  is /dev/sda not hda
[14:19] <Viele-baeren> hi
[14:19] <joe__> yeah that's what I mean. sorry.
[14:19] <joe__> ubuntu uses sda for some weird reason
[14:19] <ikonia> joe__: nothing weird about it
[14:19] <Kasplatt> !aiglx | Kasplatt
[14:19] <joe__> ikonia -- yes there is. sda is reserved naming for 'sata' devices. ubuntu just made it all sda.
[14:19] <joe__> but lets not argue about that =)
[14:19] <joe__> anyway, i can't fdisk it. what do you think? dead?
[14:20] <ikonia> joe__: sda is not for sata, sd is any disk device
[14:20] <ikonia> joe__: please show me exactly what command your using
[14:20] <Savek> sd used to be scsi ;)
[14:20] <ikonia> joe__: hd devices died many kernel release ago
[14:20] <ikonia> Savek: used to be
[14:20] <joe__> sudo fdisk /dev/sda/
[14:20] <joe__> ikonia -- tell that to all other linux distributions =)
[14:20] <ikonia> joe__: they all know it and abide by it
[14:21] <joe__> mmm...maybe you've never run anything else.....
[14:21] <ikonia> joe__: I've run most distros
[14:21] <joe__> mmk. so. back to fdsik.
[14:21] <tacone> I am looking for a way to exclude a subfolder from a samba shared folder. anyone ?
[14:21] <ikonia> joe__: ls -la /dev/sda please.
[14:21] <ikonia> tacone: permissions is the only way
[14:22] <joe__> brw-rw----- 1 root disk 3, 0 Jan 11 14:05 /dev/sda
[14:22] <VSpike> Can anyone help?  I have to use Thunderbird for mail, but I really miss a notification area or panel new mail notifier, especially when using multiple desktops...  I need a biff or mail checker that can work either with IMAP or Maildir++ but it needs to be able to detect mail in any folder as I use maildrop to route mail to folders
[14:22] <tacone> ikonia: sigh, I can't.
[14:22] <ikonia> joe__: please show me the output of blkid
[14:22] <joe__> not you, tacone =)
[14:22] <ikonia> joe__: in a pastebin if its long
[14:23] <ikonia> tacone: if you can't exclude with permissions - you can't exclude
[14:23] <joe__> its not long. just two /dev/loop0 and loop1 entries.
[14:23] <ikonia> joe__: your disk appears dead then, or the controller is not visable
[14:23] <joe__> lookin' like it.
[14:23] <jrib> VSpike: have you checked out mail-notification?
[14:23] <joe__> cool. thanks.
[14:23] <Xintruder> how do I install my nVidia drivers without X running?
[14:23] <tacone> ikonia: thx :-)
[14:23] <ikonia> Xintruder: what video card do you have
[14:24] <jschitto> EDinNY: yes, it is one card and one onboard
[14:24] <joe__> ikonia -- is it possible to run edubuntu without any hard disk?
[14:24] <ikonia> joe__: from a livecd, sure why not
[14:24] <Xintruder> nVidia accelerated
[14:24] <ikonia> Xintruder: what model
[14:24] <jschitto> EDinNY: the card has SATA and IDE, and the ide controller shows up in lspci when the card is plugged in
[14:24] <Xintruder> 7400
[14:24] <joe__> hmm....what about just loading / as a network space?
[14:24] <ikonia> joe__: thats ram
[14:24] <ikonia> joe__: running in ram
[14:25] <rvz5423> !info sun-java5-plugin
[14:25] <ubotu> sun-java5-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-13-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1 kB, installed size 80 kB
[14:25] <joe__> hmm...
[14:25] <ikonia> Xintruder the nvidia-glx package should be fine for that
[14:25] <ilan> o.O
[14:26] <VSpike> jrib: i havent .. thanks for the pointer
[14:26] <ilan>  :)
[14:26] <Xintruder> ikonia: how do I know if its installed?
[14:26] <ilan> Nobody here speaks in portuguese?
[14:26] <ikonia> Xintruder: are you using the restricted drivers manager ?
[14:26] <ikonia> Xintruder: you should be able to see it in that
[14:26] <ilan> speaks portuguese*
[14:26] <Pici> !pt | ilan
[14:26] <ubotu> ilan: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[14:26] <Xintruder> yeah i see it there ikonia
[14:26] <ikonia> Xintruder: mega, your running it then
[14:27] <joe__> Can I edit /etc/sudoers with vim or do I have to use that special program?
[14:27] <Xintruder> ok thanks
[14:27] <ilan> ola
[14:27] <ikonia> joe__: sudoedit is better
[14:27] <joe__> but is it possible / will it cause problems if I use vim?
[14:27] <tacone> Any way to change the home directory of an existing user ? I need to use /home for other purpouses.
[14:27] <ilan> o.o
[14:27] <joe__> tacone -- /etc/passwd
[14:28] <Xintruder> Guys I got to go, if you have time please pass by my problem thread and post a solution if you can. Ive been having this problem for days, I have to go now thanks in advance: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4115320#post4115320
[14:28] <ilan> NIMGUEM FALA PORTUGUES?
[14:28] <ikonia> joe__: it can cause problems, but it may not
[14:28] <ikonia> tacone: usermod
[14:28] <ilan> NADIE HABLAS ESPAÑOL?
[14:28] <ikonia> Xintruder: problem ?
[14:28] <jrib> ilan: /join #ubuntu-pt
[14:28] <dgjones> !es > ilan
[14:28] <Xintruder> ikonia: yeah, its all there with the info on everything
[14:29] <ikonia> where ?
[14:29] <ilan> thanks jrib
[14:29] <Xintruder> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4115320#post4115320 ikonia
[14:29] <bgergo94> sziasztok
[14:29] <Savek> is it possible to run 7.10 x64 without a swap partition? got 4gb physical ram and don't want memory contents to be written to disk (encryption keys and such) - i know about encrypted swap, but i'd rather completely ommit it
[14:29] <ilan> hola dgjones
[14:29] <ikonia> Savek: you can do that, but your being paranoid
[14:29] <joe__> howto get ubuntu version from command line?
[14:29] <ikonia> Savek: no swap partition will have effects on things like hibernation, memory waste etc
[14:29] <jwd_> uname -a
[14:29] <jrib> !version | joe__
[14:29] <ubotu> joe__: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[14:29] <el_Toni> joe__, uname -a
[14:30] <bgergo94> ismertek magyar MUD szervert?
[14:30] <tacone> joe_: after changing /etc/passwd what shuold i do to refresh the situation ? reboot ?
[14:30] <genii> joe__: yes, uname -a   and also lsb_release -a
[14:31] <joe__> excellent
[14:31] <joe__> tacone -- I believe that isn't neccesary
[14:31] <Savek> s3 should be enough - don't need to-disk
[14:31] <joe__> tacone -- I think you just change the directory, logout and login
[14:31] <joe__> (if you are changing your own home)
[14:31] <joe__> 1 thing. make sure you have permissions on your new home =)
[14:31] <tacone> ok, thx
[14:32] <jimcooncat> what's the quickest way to install multi-domain web and ftp servers? Anything simpler than apache2?
[14:32] <joe__> What's wrong with apache2? =)
[14:32] <ikonia> jimcooncat: apache2 is very simple
[14:32] <VSpike> jrib: it doesn't seem to be able to check multiple folders :./
[14:33] <joe__> jimcooncat -- if you want it all working this hour or today, your probably in no luck. But apache is quite simple. The guys at #apache are really helpful, too.
[14:33] <Nibblyn> cwillu_: thanks, deactivated all visual effects... that helped a lot
[14:33] <joe__> FYI - apache has nothing to do with 'ftp servers'
[14:33] <joe__> jimcooncat ^^
[14:33] <martianlobster> I just did an "apt-get install openvpn"  and it started Openvpn, after the installation. Does "apt-get install"  do an "rc-update add" also,  so that openvpn will be restarted after each reboot?
[14:33] <jrib> VSpike: yeah, you're right.  I assumed you could add more than one mailbox and specify the path but does not seem so
[14:34] <jimcooncat> ok, thanks all. I'll give it a shot. So what for ftp?
[14:34] <adub> my toolbar is pushed off to the right side of my screen from the top of my screen how can i get it back to the top of my screen
[14:34] <Ltlbgr67> Hi, I have a question I cant seem to find an answer for.  Is there a way to customize icons?
[14:34] <Pici> !themes > Ltlbgr67 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[14:34] <ikonia> Ltlbgr67: make an icon theme
[14:34] <Pici> !changethemes > Ltlbgr67 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[14:34] <joe__> jimcooncat -- i forget but its very simple. google for ubuntu ftp.
[14:34] <VSpike> jrib: in some ways, the logical thing might be to have maildrop call a notification tool
[14:34] <joe__> !ftp
[14:34] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[14:34] <ikonia> joe__: vsftp ?
[14:35] <VSpike> jrib: but I'm not sure how it would communicate with a running user session
[14:35] <joe__> yes ikonia
[14:35] <joe__> jimcooncat --> see ikonia's last msg. that's a good one.
[14:35] <jimcooncat> joe__: yes there's a few. I'll check out vsftp, thanks ikonia
[14:36] <VSpike> jrib: it's annoying because t-bird scans all folders for new mail, and shows a brief popup, but has no tray icon.  Yet t-bird for windows does.
[14:37] <Balachmar> Hi yesterday I installed Kubuntu dekstop from synaptic because I want to try KDE
[14:37] <dazza> hi, i'm having trouble with my wireless card. module is loaded but the card doesn't appear in iwconfig. see http://rafb.net/p/CjIezf62.html for output of lspci/lsmod/iwconfig
[14:38] <Balachmar> But now it has changed the spashscreen as well, how can I switch that back, I must admit that I like the ubuntu splash better
[14:38] <jrib> Balachmar: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[14:38] <beggi> hi all
[14:38] <beggi> i need help with buntu
[14:39] <Pici> Just ask.
[14:39] <jwd> ubuntu or just buntu
[14:39] <jwd> hehehe
[14:39] <beggi> ubuntu of course
[14:39] <Balachmar> @jrib: I didn't mean the gdm or kdm, I mean the splash screen you get when booting
[14:40] <beggi> now i'm on ubuntu, and i want to update this
[14:40] <Savek> @dazza: have you looked at this site: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140085&page=2 ?
[14:40] <jschitto> hi, i have a vt6420 sata controller on my motherboard and one on my pci card. how can i make ubuntu also recognize the one on the pci card? the card is seated correctly...
[14:40] <beggi> i'm on 5.03
[14:40] <Savek> (sry, don't have that card, so can't tell more)
[14:40] <Ximal> i am soo in love with compiz ;)
[14:40] <dazza> Savek: not yet i don't think! i'll have a look at it
[14:41] <Ximal> now... can someone tell me what vmware fusion is ?
[14:41] <Ximal> oops... this is the wrong window.. haha
[14:41] <Savek> Ximal: vmware for OS-X
[14:41] <urbanmonkey> Ximal: workstation for macos
[14:41] <Ximal> oh... heh.. thanks guys...
[14:41] <Sweatgh> hi to all1
[14:41] <Sweatgh> :D
[14:41] <dgjones> beggi, that might be too old to upgrade now, it'd probably be safer and better to backup your /home partition and install a fresh version of 7.10
[14:41] <corentin> Hi everybody
[14:42] <corentin> Is someone can help me to configure my sound on linux?
[14:42] <corentin> (Kubuntu)...
[14:42] <corentin> And Is someone can tell me how update my KDE?
[14:42] <genii> corentin: Perhaps go instead to channel #kubuntu instead of this one for assistance :)
[14:42] <erUSUL> jschitto: why do you know it is not recogniced? does the disk attached there not show up?
[14:43] <jschitto> erUSUL: yes the disks do not show up and there is only one entry in lspci
[14:43] <beggi> thanks dgjones, so do I have to format the hard drive?
[14:43] <jschitto> the IDE controller on the card shows up in lspci however erUSUL
[14:44] <tacone> thank you joe__, i'm done ! :-)
[14:44] <dgjones> beggi, if its the only operating system on the machine, once you've done the backup, you should just be able to let the livecd install and that'll format and clear what you had originally, do you have a seperate /home partition?
[14:44] <tacone> bye !
[14:45] <erUSUL> jschitto: humm then you may hve to pass some kind of module parametaer or something... i will report it as a kernel bug in launchpad maybe kernel ubuntu gurus can sched some light on this
[14:45] <beggi> no this ubuntu is with win xp, home is not separate partition
[14:45] <javaccen> erUSUL: here is some more information
[14:46] <joe__> cool, tacone =)
[14:46] <Curs0r> powernowd is throwing errors at boot. Will a simple reinstall fix that?
[14:46] <joe__> tacone -- usermod is also helpful but honestly I just edit /etc/passwd when it comes to things like that.
[14:46] <ikonia> Curs0r: I don't see why
[14:46] <javaccen> erUSUL: in /var/log/messages there are 5 lines showing up with sata_via
[14:46] <beggi> i read that it's possibel to upgradefrom 5.0 to 6.0 and then 6.0 to 7.0
[14:46] <javaccen> erUSUL: scsi0 through scsi4
[14:46] <erUSUL> javaccen: can you paste them?
[14:46] <erUSUL> !paste
[14:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[14:46] <Curs0r> Does anyone have a useful answer?
[14:47] <ikonia> Curs0r: depends what the errors are
[14:47] <mavi-> Curs0r: try? =D
[14:47] <erUSUL> javaccen: but i gues they are the 4 ports of the onboard controler chip
[14:47] <Curs0r> Better, still not all the way to useful though.
[14:47] <dgjones> beggi, do a backup of your /home, download a 7.10 install cd and boot from that, you'll be able to specify that it uses the partition you've got your old version of ubuntu on and tell to format that, just make sure you'd don't format your windows partition
[14:47] <javaccen> erUSUL: take a look please http://pastebin.com/m50f85cc3
[14:47] <javaccen> it looks kinda like 2 controllers
[14:47] <ikonia> Curs0r if you are unable to provide useful information, don't expect useful help
[14:48] <Curs0r> Don't answer the question if you don't know
[14:48] <javaccen> there are only 2 onboard sata ports
[14:48] <ikonia> Curs0r: how can I know you've not given me any information, apart from a bizzare magic suggestion of a reinstall fix all
[14:48] <ikonia> Curs0r: provide information
[14:48] <Curs0r> You could have led off with "I need more info"
[14:49] <ikonia> Curs0r: I answered your question. "Would a reinstall fix that" "I don't see why"
[14:49] <ikonia> Curs0r: provide information
[14:49] <Curs0r> I'll fix it myself. Thanks for nothing asswad
[14:49] <ikonia> Curs0r: or ask more accurate question
[14:49] <beggi> ok, thanks dgjones, btw this ubuntu can't access cdrom device to enable this?
[14:50] <erUSUL> javaccen: can you paste full dmesg ?
[14:50] <jschitto> sure erUSUL
[14:50] <dgjones> beggi, are you able to download the .iso using windows and then burn it to a cd? and are you able to boot from cd?
[14:50] <Sweatgh> people what is the name of package that can to add many cap pac with aircrack?
[14:51] <javaccen> erUSUL: http://pastebin.com/m2d217987
[14:52] <javaccen> there are 4 disks connected
[14:52] <beggi> yes i''m able to, i can boot from cdrom, this ubuntu was installed by me, but 2 years ago :)
[14:52] <Curs0r> ikonia, do you provide help at all or just rhetorical insights?
[14:52] <javaccen> but only the two are showing up
[14:53] <javaccen> Curs0r: please relax i am sorry for any offense you have taken
[14:54] <dgjones> beggi, if you can do that, that should let you burn the cd in from windows and then get on the way to installing the latest version
[14:54] <Curs0r> I'm just trying to discern what makes a person sit in a help channel and act like a prick
[14:54] <ikonia> !language | Curs0r
[14:54] <ubotu> Curs0r: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[14:55] <Curs0r> Oh I see, we want to be a hall monitor when we grow up.
[14:55] <ikonia> !attitude | Curs0r
[14:55] <ubotu> Curs0r: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[14:55] <ikonia> Curs0r: just provide the information, or ask a genuine question, not one you didn't want an answer for
[14:55] <Curs0r> Volunteers should contribute, not drive users away
[14:56] <ikonia> Curs0r: I have not been rude to you in any way, I answered your question, and aske for more info/better question
[14:56] <Curs0r> ikonia, lame defense
[14:56] <ikonia> Curs0r: if you want help, provide information, or solid question, don't complain
[14:57] <Seveas> Curs0r, would you please behave in here?
[14:57] <Curs0r> ikonia, why don't you just go away and I'll talk to the other users here for help if I need it ok?
[14:57] <Seveas> Curs0r, final warning. Behave or begone.
[14:57] <ikonia> Curs0r: just provide the information to fix it
[14:57] <Curs0r> Like I said, I'll fix it myself.
[14:57] <ikonia> Curs0r: ok, fix it yourself and stop complaining.
[14:58] <Seveas> ikonia, please ignore Curs0r as well, you're only making it worse
[14:58] <ikonia> ok
[14:58] <tim167> hello, i am trying to make an image with apt-on cd, but it only sees 4 installed packages, although i'm sure i installed dozens, what can i do ? thanks
[14:58] <wsguede> can you "update" from ubuntu 7.10 to xubuntu 7.10?
[14:58] <Seveas> wsguede, install the xubuntu-desktop package
[14:58] <ikonia> wsguede: not really an update, just a different desktop, and use
[14:58] <ikonia> yes
[14:59] <wsguede> I don't want o have to go through another cd
[14:59] <wsguede> I have normal ubuntu but it goes slow
[14:59] <ikonia> wsguede: look at the package Seveas suggested.
[14:59] <ikonia> wsguede: slow doing things, or just visually slow
[15:00] <tim167> has anyone here used apt-on cd ?
[15:00] <wsguede> doing
[15:00] <ikonia> wsguede: can you give me a quick example
[15:01] <Rhoruns> ahhh! i minimized my shell window in TightVNC, how do i bring it back up again??
[15:01] <tim167> can ubuntu be installed via an image on harddisk instead of a CD ?
[15:01] <gabriele> hi
[15:02] <ikonia> tim167: really needs to be booted
[15:02] <ikonia> !install | tim167
[15:02] <ubotu> tim167: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[15:02] <wsguede> ikonia: I am working with 256 mb mem
[15:02] <B-rabbit> hi all
[15:02] <ikonia> wsguede: that is really the minimum for gnome, I see why you may want to try xubuntu
[15:03] <Patogen> "configure: error: id3tag header not found!", how do I fix this? Trying to compile pmplib
[15:03] <VSpike> hey B-rabbit did you ever get that thing compiled and installed?
[15:03] <wsguede> ikonia: :)
[15:03] <Blinkiz> I would like to burn a cd disc from command line. I have used growisofs for dvd. Does it work for cd disc also or do I need another program for that?
[15:04] <BB88> Anybody know how I can mount a partition and change its permissions?
[15:04] <B-rabbit> VSpike, yer i did actually :) ... took me quite a will to figure it out though
[15:04] <erUSUL> javaccen: i can see 3 disks sda sdb and hdb....
[15:04] <wsguede> BB88: what are you trying to do?
[15:04] <ikonia> BB88 once it's mounted it behaves like a normal file system, just change the permissions as you would anything else
[15:05] <sinthetek> wtf...
[15:05] <BB88> wsguede, I have just done a fresh install of Ubuntu. I have a 500gb HD, and partitioned it into 100gb as the root, and 400gb as /Files. The folder "Files" is located in /Files, but I cannot access, and I want to mount it in media also ;)
[15:06] <ikonia> BB88: you'll need to change /etc/fstab to make it mount in /media
[15:06] <genii> Blinkiz: You may find some help here http://sharkysoft.com/tutorials/linuxtips/cdcommands/
[15:06] <ikonia> BB88: and also make the dir in /media
[15:06] <BB88> ikonia, I need to edit the permissions first, or can I do this through fstab?
[15:06] <mavi-> directories in /media gets auto created by the mounter
[15:06] <kurbacik> problems with vlc
[15:06] <mavi-> so dont create one if you want to use that one
[15:06] <ikonia> mavi-: no, only if it's done through dbus/hal
[15:06] <kurbacik> i need help with vlc
[15:07] <mavi-> yes, if its mounted via the auto mounter
[15:07] <erUSUL> javaccen: also the sata ports of the pci card are reported as down (ata4 and ata5) so maybe you have to check the various cables (sata power etc)
[15:07] <mavi-> oh
[15:07] <kurbacik> i can't here sound
[15:07] <mavi-> missed "auto" in auto mounter in first sentence
[15:07] <ikonia> BB88: mount it on /files, change the permissions, then mount it wher you want, or mount it where you want and then change the permissions
[15:07] <kurbacik> i can't hear sound
[15:07] <BB88> ikonia, I would if I knew how :)
[15:07] <tiagoboldt> anyone has tried the new creative ZEN with ubuntu? I'm about to buy one, but I would like to be sure it works. Since it's really recent, there aren't many infos online..
[15:07] <javaccen> erUSUL: sorry there is a 5th IDE disk that I booted off of
[15:07] <Ximal> wuts the command for downloading the C header files ? i can't get vmware to install without them
[15:07] <BB88> ikonia, I am in fstab via gedit now, and I am not sure what to do next.
[15:08] <erUSUL> javaccen: i guess that's hdb?
[15:08] <javaccen> erUSUL: i will reseat all of the connectors
[15:08] <erUSUL> Ximal: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[15:08] <aoupi> tiagoboldt: if you have a laptop you can bring it to the store
[15:08] <ikonia> BB88: look at how /files is setup, change that to /media/what_you_want
[15:08] <Ximal> what is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[15:08] <Ximal> kernel? is the question
[15:08] <Blinkiz> genii: Thanks for the link. The author for that page recommends "cdrecord" to burn iso files. Is "cdrecord" the ´one´ cd burning tool?
[15:08] <Ximal> I need to know wht the dir would be ? and ok
[15:08] <javaccen> erUSUL: yes, the 300GB samsung hdb is the boot disk
[15:08] <javaccen> erUSUL: there are also 4 identical 500GB SATA
[15:08] <genii> Blinkiz: It is the backend for most gui burning apps
[15:09] <Blinkiz> genii: I see. Thanks for that information
[15:09] <Ximal> erUSUL : what's the uname -r mean ?
[15:09] <Blinkiz> bye
[15:10] <Beber80> uname -r gives you your kernel version
[15:11] <Ximal> it still shows it as not being the C header files.. wth ?
[15:11] <BB88> ikonia, I private messaged you. Any ideas?
[15:11] <Twigathy> Hey all - I'm trying to run Tomboy notes but keep getting the error: "WARNING: Could not scan file: /usr/lib/tomboy/Tomboy.exe"
[15:11] <VSpike> BB88: if you want more help, pastebin the whole file.  By the way, did you do "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab" ?
[15:11] <ikonia> BB88: I've not got your message
[15:11] <Twigathy> Anyone else use Tomboy and have the same problem?
[15:11] <ikonia> BB88: is your nick registered ?
[15:12] <ikonia> BB88: VSpike had a good call, paste your fstab ina pastebin
[15:12] <BB88> Ok.
[15:13] <Ximal> could anyone tell me the directory of the C header files that match the running kernel I a using ? what would be the generic way of finding that folder ?
[15:13] <BB88> Yes, my nick is registered.
[15:13] <abhi_> hi
[15:13] <BB88> ikonia, VSpike, http://pastebin.com/m35fb5a16
[15:14] <ikonia> BB88: that looks quite good, what's the error
[15:14] <VSpike> BB88: do you want you disk to be mounted in *both* places?  If so, you might be better symlinking
[15:14] <BB88> ikonia, There is no error, I just want to change the permissions, and mount it.
[15:14] <Watarase_Jun> hi, i'm having problems with graphics on my 7.10 system... my graphics card is a radeon 1650 pcie and my monitor is an old em-175... i can't seem to get the drivers in and working
[15:14] <BB88> VSpike, I just want to move the partition to /media/ and mount it, and change the permissions.
[15:15] <ikonia> BB88: that seems fine, mount it on /media and change the permissions
[15:15] <BB88> ikonia, I do not know how.
[15:15] <Mez> Twigathy, I had issues with tomboy not loading unless I ran the command from a shell with nohup, but the lastest from -updates fixed it
[15:15] <apdb> Is there a command i Linux to display what groups a specific user is member of?
[15:15] <ikonia> BB88 "sudo mount /media/Files"
[15:15] <ikonia> apdb: id $user
[15:15] <ikonia> apdb: or the gui user manager
[15:15] <Twigathy> Mez: -updates? I assume you mean a repo I don't have enabled? :)
[15:16] <BB88> ikonia, mount: mount point /media/Files does not exist
[15:16] <javaccen> erUSUL: ok i swapped all the cables in case a cable is bad and rebooted
[15:16] <ikonia> BB88: I told you to create the directory you wanted to mount it on
[15:16] <javaccen> erUSUL: now the dmesg is http://pastebin.com/m130fb0a7
[15:16] <Mez> Twigathy, yes, gutsy-updates - if you'd care to pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list I can see whether you have that repository available and point you in the correct direction if not
[15:16] <BB88> ikonia, So create /Files/ inside /media ?
[15:16] <CrashTest_> I have just run updates on my 7.10 install, and it tried to upgrade my kdm, which failed. with a dpkg: error processing kdm (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1.  I have tried apt-get install -f, apt-get upgrade, apt-get clean but I still get the same error.  No other pkg system is running.
[15:16] <guru> firman
[15:16] <ikonia> BB88: yes
[15:17] <BB88> You cannot create folders in media..
[15:17] <javaccen> erUSUL: so unless the card is bad or something it is a bug
[15:17] <lewix> what's the difference between kill and killall
[15:17] <ikonia> BB88: use sudo
[15:17] <Twigathy> Mez: on
[15:17] <Mez> CrashTest_, try a sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get install --reinstall kdm,
[15:17] <Twigathy> er...
[15:18] <Mez> (without the comma at the end
[15:18] <Twigathy> Mez: http://pastebin.com/m6ac2e7ea
[15:18] <BB88> ikonia, to create a folder?
[15:18] <ikonia> BB88: "sudo mkdir /media/files"
[15:18] <erUSUL> javaccen: the two ports are still reported as down... dunno why you may want to report it to lunchpad or een the linux-kernel mailing list
[15:18] <ikonia> BB88: "sudo mkdir /media/Files"
[15:18] <genii> lewix: kill works on a single process, killall will kill everything running with a particular name
[15:18] <Twigathy> It's a bit of a mess, sorry... x_x
[15:18] <ikonia> BB88: note the captical F
[15:18] <CrashTest_> Mez: Thanks, same error
[15:18] <javaccen> erUSUL: ok thank you
[15:18] <lewix> genii, thanks
[15:18] <Mez> CrashTest_, sorry that didnt hellp
[15:19] <genii> lewix: np
[15:19] <CrashTest_> Mez: NP, thanks for the try, anyone know of a better way to force a package to install or update?
[15:19] <BB88> ikonia, Ok, but how can I change the permissions so I can actually do stuff with the partition?
[15:19] <ikonia> BB88: what is your user name
[15:20] <BB88> ben
[15:20] <Mez> Twigathy, can you pastebin the output of apt-get policy tomboy please?
[15:20] <BB88> is it chown -R ?
[15:20] <ikonia> BB88: "sudo chown -R ben:users /media/Files"
[15:20] <Mez> CrashTest_, kdm failing at the configure is a major thing - I'd suspect a corrupt package.
[15:20] <ikonia> BB88: then "sudo chmod -R 755 /media/Files"
[15:20] <CrashTest_> Mez: Ok, I will wait for the next update, and try again then
[15:21] <Twigathy> Mez: http://pastebin.com/m3c468df8
[15:21] <Mez> CrashTest_, you're trying to update to 7.10 though?
[15:21] <Twigathy> oh, hm
[15:21]  * Twigathy wonders why he has gutsy-proposed enabled
[15:21] <CrashTest_> Mez: No, I am already on 7.10, I was just running an update because Update Manager told me to
[15:21] <obreiro> hello to everybody. someone know how to forget a configured wlan with network manager in gutsy?
[15:21] <obreiro> thanks
[15:21] <CrashTest_> :)
[15:21] <Seveas> obreiro, black magic
[15:21] <Seveas> obreiro, hang on a bit
[15:22] <Mez> CrashTest_, you might get better help for KDE in #Kubuntu ...
[15:22] <CrashTest_> Thanks
[15:22] <manojloviclMVP> Can someone tell me if it possible to somehow make logs rotate every 10 minutes?
[15:22] <manojloviclMVP> I would like to have a new log every 10 minutes.
[15:22] <Seveas> obreiro, gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /system/networking/wireless/networks/foo  (replace foo with the ssid)
[15:22] <manojloviclMVP> I use syslog-ng
[15:23] <Mez> Twigathy, might be that, the version I'm running is from security
[15:23] <Mez> Twigathy, try sudo apt-get install tomboy=0.8.0-1ubuntu0.1
[15:23]  * Twigathy updates a bit...
[15:23] <Twigathy> two secs :)
[15:23]  * genii gives Seveas a black magic award
[15:23] <BB88> ikonia, Still no luck.
[15:23] <Mez> manojloviclMVP, logs for what ?
[15:24] <ikonia> BB88: what is the problem
[15:24] <manojloviclMVP> mez.
[15:24] <BB88> ikonia, I still cannot edit it, and now I have "Files" located in both "/" and "/media"
[15:24] <afief> I am having trouble installing flash on my Ubuntu, could someone help me?
[15:24] <manojloviclMVP> I would like to make log from my router but I would like that syslog-ng and logrotate create a new log every 10 minutes.
[15:24] <Pici> !flashissues | afief
[15:24] <ubotu> afief: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[15:24] <manojloviclMVP> Is it possible?
[15:24] <Seveas> afief, maybe someone can if you tell us the problems :)
[15:24] <ikonia> BB88: you've got a cross mount, show me the output of "mount" in a pastebin please.
[15:24] <Mez> !flashissues | afief
[15:24] <Mez> !flashissues | afief
[15:24] <Mez> !flash | afief
[15:24] <Seveas> manojloviclMVP, make the logratate cronjob run every 10 minutes instead of daily
[15:25] <ubotu> afief: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[15:25] <VSpike> BB88: you have the contents of Files in both places, or just an empty directory in one?
[15:25] <Pici> Mez: I did it like 3 lines before you did. !botabuse ;)
[15:25] <BB88> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/m648f1f2
[15:25] <manojloviclMVP> Seveas... The problem is that syslog-ng config does not know how to make a new one every 10 minutes.
[15:25] <ikonia> VSpike: he's posting mount, hang one
[15:25] <Mez> !opabuse | Pici
[15:25] <manojloviclMVP> If I run the procedure manualy it does not create a new log.
[15:25] <ubotu> Pici: leave the ops alone ktnxbye
[15:25] <Twigathy> Mez: different crash now!
[15:25] <BB88> VSpike, It is an empty directory as it is a new hard drive split into two partitions.
[15:25] <ubuntu__> hi
[15:25] <ikonia> BB88: you have a cross mount
[15:25] <manojloviclMVP> How shoudl I configure it to make it every 10 minutes?
[15:25] <Mez> Twigathy, w00... what crash now
[15:25] <ikonia> BB88: sudo umount /files
[15:26] <ikonia> BB88: sudo umount /Files
[15:26] <Tracy_P> In the standard UI, is there a way to select a file and edit it in the default editor with SUDO?
[15:26] <Twigathy> http://pastebin.com/mb3faf0f <-- Mez
[15:26] <Seveas> manojloviclMVP, I don't know about syslog-ng but normal syslog needs a SIGHUP after rotating the log, which is what the default logratate config does
[15:26] <ikonia> Seveas: ng does too
[15:26] <manojloviclMVP> Well...
[15:26] <muszek___> I just fired up alpha 3... is pulse audio "in it"?  I'd like to set different volume for rhythmbox and firefox.... possible?
[15:26] <Seveas> Tracy_P, sadly not. YOu can install nautilus-actions and create such an action
[15:27] <BB88> ikonia, Ok, but I cannot delete the folder. Need to use CHMOD and CHOWN again?
[15:27] <Seveas> (which is what I did :))
[15:27] <Tracy_P> Thank you
[15:27] <ikonia> BB88: forget the folder for now - one thing at t time
[15:27] <Pici> !hardy | muszek___
[15:27] <ubotu> muszek___: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:27] <ikonia> BB88: can you mount to /media/Files
[15:27] <ikonia> BB88: sorry, can you "write"
[15:27] <Ax-Ax> is debian better than ubuntu?
[15:27] <BB88> ikonia, No.
[15:27] <Pici> !debian | Ax-Ax
[15:27] <ikonia> BB88: what does it say ?
[15:27] <ubotu> Ax-Ax: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[15:27] <muszek___> Pici, sorry, I though I _was_ on #ubuntu+1 :)
[15:28] <mneptok> Ax-Ax: is Coke better than Pepsi?
[15:28] <Seveas> mneptok, definitely!
[15:28] <BB88> ikonia, It seems I can now after the umount.
[15:28] <mneptok> Seveas: i mean for drinking.
[15:28] <BB88> ikonia, Ok, that is sorted thank you. Now just to remove the older /Files folder?
[15:28] <Seveas> mneptok, that too. But definitely for rust removal
[15:28] <Mez> Twigathy, you seem to have removed an addin or something - maybe rm -rf ~/.tomboy
[15:29]  * mneptok eats a 1949 Mercury
[15:29] <ikonia> BB88: sudo rm -rf /Files
[15:29] <mrx1222> ls
[15:29] <mrx1222> ls
[15:29]  * Twigathy backs up his notes first ;)
[15:29] <BB88> ikonia, Ok thank you. How can I make it show up on the desktop, as it normally would as an NTFS FileSystem ?
[15:30] <ikonia> BB88: it "should" show up the next time you reboot
[15:30] <ikonia> BB88: you can do it manually, but it's easier and quicker to reboot
[15:30] <ed_> very quick newbie question: how do i kill an unresponsive ap?
[15:30] <Twigathy> Mez: heh, I'm back to the original error *facedesk*
[15:30] <ikonia> ed_: sudo kill -11 $pid
[15:30] <ikonia> ed_: or pkill $process
[15:30] <dury> hi there channel :)
[15:30] <ed_> terminal won't come up for some reason
[15:30] <BB88> ikonia, I'd rather do it manually as I am installing XP on VirtualBox at the moment, if you would be so inclined :)
[15:30] <Mez> Twigathy, which was?
[15:30] <obreiro> Seveas very thanks
[15:31] <ed_> ok
[15:31] <ikonia> BB88: just wait until your install has finished and reboot
[15:31] <Twigathy> http://pastebin.com/m5e45d2c5 <-- that one
[15:31] <BB88> ikonia, Heh ok, thank you.
[15:31] <ed_> terminal has come up- i have a dying hard drive and it's causing f-ups
[15:31] <ikonia> BB88: honetly, it's quicker and easier, I sense your a new user
[15:31] <BB88> ikonia, I have been using Ubuntu for about two months now, so not really no. Just haven't really had to configure a new hard drive up until now.
[15:32] <Mez> Twigathy, sudo apt-get remove --purge tomboy
[15:32] <Mez> Twigathy, sudo apt-get install tomboy=0.8.0-1ubuntu0.1
[15:32] <ikonia> BB88: 2 months and you can't delete a directory, with respect I'd still class you as finding your feet
[15:32] <ikonia> BB88: I suggest you read the following URL's to help you get running easier
[15:32] <BB88> ikonia, Never needed to, but oh well :)
[15:32] <ikonia> !sudo | BB88
[15:32] <ubotu> BB88: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[15:32] <ikonia> BB88: thats a key tool
[15:33] <Twigathy> Mez: heh, again, same error
[15:33]  * Mez rolls eyes
[15:33] <Mez> no idea
[15:33] <Twigathy> gah, I might just go without notes for a bit - got work to be doing :(
[15:33]  * Twigathy will report a bug on launchpad a little later :)
[15:33] <Twigathy> Thanks for trying at least, Mez :)
[15:34] <Mez> thanks for being useful and providing the info promptly
[15:34] <BB88> ikonia, Ok. Well thank you for all your help.
[15:34] <ikonia> BB88: welcome
[15:34] <kirk> woot
[15:36] <mattwalston> what is the ubuntu equivelant of redhat's chkconfig?
[15:36] <mattwalston> I am trying to manage services from commandline quickly instead of renaming rc.X files
[15:36] <CarlFK> what is the gui sudo ?
[15:37] <erawfish> gksudo
[15:37] <CarlFK> ah, thanks.
[15:37] <erawfish> mattwalston: try rcconf
[15:37] <mattwalston> erawfish: thanks
[15:38] <CarlFK> where are the "open with" defined?
[15:39] <CarlFK> like a .sh file has "Open with: Text Editor" - in what file is that association stored?
[15:40] <bcpage_> has anybody tried to install unbuntu in virtual Box. I'm trying it now and it seems excessively slow.
[15:40] <jetscreamer> i think in the desktop shortcut. open one up with a text editor
[15:41] <CarlFK> what desktop shortcut?
[15:41] <gnari> mattwalston: update-rc.d
[15:41] <khelll> how to get the mac address ?
[15:41] <obreiro> ifconfig
[15:41] <obreiro> sudo ifconfig
[15:41] <heatmzzr> why cant i play encoded dvd's in my computer and how do i fix it. Pretend i dont know crap, cause i dont
[15:41] <yuras> привет всем
[15:42] <markvandenborre> yuras, please go to ubuntu-ru with that
[15:42] <jetscreamer> libdvdcss
[15:42] <jetscreamer> heatmzzr:
[15:42] <jetscreamer> !css
[15:42] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[15:42] <obreiro> khelll> sudo ifconfig
[15:42] <martin_> hi, on kde 4 i can't seem to get gtk applications to use any theme other than the default boxy gray one, is there a way?
[15:45] <Hami> No sound from web stream, but I do have all other sound working fine? checked alsa settings Help pls thx
[15:46] <bcpage_> how well are the older ati rage 128 cards supported?
[15:47] <crdlb> bcpage_: should work for 2d, but no 3d support
[15:47] <wanghui> vvbbb
[15:47] <punkshui> i'm attempting to install ubuntu on a dell inspiron 6000, and i would like to install it so that windows is still restorable through dell's PC restore function. anyone point me to a guide or have any advice for me?
[15:48] <wanghui> aa
[15:48] <erawfish> don't overwrite the restore partition, don#t overwrite the MBR, instead install the bootloader into a partition
[15:49] <punkshui> erawfish install the bootloader into a partition. could you be more specific?
[15:49] <bcpage_> crdlb: so no fancy gui stuff?
[15:49] <ajitam> hi how can I download file from internet www.mypage.com/data.zip via terminal thx
[15:49] <PriceChild> ajitam, wget url
[15:49] <crdlb> bcpage_: no compiz effects if that's what you mean
[15:49] <punkshui> ajitam wget filename
[15:49] <bingodeville> punkshui: you may want to look into Wubi if you are rather new to Linux
[15:49] <Hami> No sound from web stream, but I do have all other sound working fine? checked alsa settings Help pls thx any suggestion!!!
[15:50] <ajitam> punkshui: thx
[15:50] <CarlFK> wget http://www.mypage.com/data.zip
[15:50] <punkshui> bingodeville i'm not that new to linux i just haven't dealt with dell's partition table before
[15:50] <erawfish> punkshui: by default it's installed in the MBR /dev/hda you want it in a partition /dev/hdaX
[15:50] <erawfish> dells partition table is the same like any other
[15:50] <bcpage_> thankz
[15:51] <punkshui> erawfish i don't want windows to be on the computer anymore... i just want it to be restorable
[15:51] <levander> How do I connect to a printer on a Windows machine from a desktop running Gutsy?
[15:51] <wanghui> have anybody?
[15:52] <Rodolfo> hello! ppl i got myself in trouble...my video resolution is set to 640x480 when i leave a game like frets on fire....
[15:52] <dgjones> !anybody | wanghui
[15:52] <ubotu> wanghui: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[15:52] <wanghui> 有人吗？
[15:52] <punkshui> erawfish so does that mean i have to create a new partition before installing ubuntu? load the GRUB bootloader on to it and then proceed with installation? or ...
[15:53] <rebecca__> im running gutsy, i followed the instructions for the restricted media setup but playing virtually any AVI file, while functional, is disgustingly colour saturated and contrasty. can anyone suggest how the codecs are fixed? i have installed "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" and vlc + xine + mplayer and they all produce the same colour saturated video output.
[15:53] <bingodeville> !ch | wanghui
[15:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:53] <punkshui> erawfish or do i just have to make sure to make a new partition to install ubuntu on to, and set it as the target drive?
[15:53] <Rodolfo> can anyone tell me what i can do?
[15:54] <dgjones> !cn > wanghui
[15:54] <bingodeville> !cn | wanghui
[15:54] <ubotu> wanghui: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[15:54] <WorkingOnWise> whats the big fancy video app that Pixar uses?
[15:54] <maswan> renderman?
[15:55] <punkshui> erawfish ?
[15:55] <Hami> punkshui: why not remove the hard drive and install a new one, if you need to use windows you just put it back!!!
[15:55] <punkshui> Hami Dell doesn't ship computers with an install CD for windows
[15:55] <erawfish> damn. wrong channel
[15:55] <punkshui> Hami instead they provide users with a restore partition
[15:55] <Ttech> punkshui, yea they do... or they did
[15:56] <Ttech> I know you can get you to send them
[15:56] <bingodeville> punkshui: I believe you can call technical support to request one
[15:56] <dgjones> Ttech, its and added extra to the price
[15:56] <rebecca__> anyone know how best to fix the horribly colour saturated video codecs?
[15:56] <Ttech> dgjones,  I got it for $0
[15:56] <punkshui> Hami what I need to be able to do is maintain the integrity of these partitions so that I can restore factory settings at some point.
[15:56] <Ttech> So I think not. :)
[15:56] <wanghui> I come  here  firsr time   .  so  have something  is unkowning
[15:56] <Ttech> lol
[15:57] <dgjones> Ttech, we've just bought a couple of new dells for work, the restore cd was an added extra, rather than included as standard
[15:57] <punkshui> erawfish have you done this before? what method should i use for partitioning this HD if I'm to maintain these partitions... normally the root goes at the beginning and the swap at the end, however I believe the restore and utility partitions are located there. i'm worried that moving them will cause their corruption
[15:58] <Ttech> dgjones, then its changed. I deleted the restore partition and I got the windows restore disk and the end results was a computer free of all that crap ware they install by default
[15:58] <erawfish> punkshui: just don'te delete those parttions
[15:58] <Hami> punkshui: cannot help
[15:58] <Ttech> I don't recommend that I did but it worked
[15:58] <Ttech> ;)
[15:58] <emeline> slt
[15:58] <punkshui> erawfish so i should place the root and swap partitions just ahead of the restore and behind the utility partition?
[15:59] <emeline> gvèuy
[15:59] <sreekanth_> hai everyone... can anyone help me in Gyachi
[15:59] <sreekanth_> ??
[15:59] <sreekanth_> its very important!
[15:59] <sreekanth_> please...
[15:59] <sreekanth_> any gyachi users here?
[15:59] <emeline> tagueule
[15:59] <dgjones> sreekanth_, just ask your full question, if anybody knows, they'll most likely help
[15:59] <Hami> No sound from web stream, but I do have all other sound working fine? checked alsa settings ???
[16:00] <erawfish> punkshui: it doesn't matter where you put them. placement is irrelevant
[16:00] <Ttech> sreekanth_, how about you wait a second and let people reply
[16:00] <FactTech> Question: If I use usermod to change the login name and home directory of a user, will that user's group membership stay intact?
[16:00] <erawfish> punkshui: you should not delete the dell service partitions and not mess with the parttion table (too much). that#s it
[16:00] <Ttech> eerrrr
[16:00] <sreekanth_> ok...i can load my buddy icon
[16:00] <punkshui> erawfish okay.. and do i need to install this bootloader before i go through the ubuntu install? or can i just do a normal install making sure to "not mess with the partition table too much"
[16:01] <Hami> question: No sound from web stream, but I do have all other sound working fine? checked alsa settings Help pls thx
[16:01] <erawfish> punkshui: I don't know. depends on int installation routine
[16:01] <punkshui> Hami are you using real player to play that web stream
[16:01] <twl3> i've installed a number of times, transferring data from many hard disks.. now i find myself with two installations of ubuntu, and no matter what boot order i set the hdds in the BIOS, it still gives a grub 1.5 error.  I've booted off the install CD now, and am planning to install again, but how do i wipe/reset the MBR/grub?  thanks for any help
[16:01] <sreekanth_> but it says that it cannot connect to filetransfer.msg.yahoo.com
[16:01] <punkshui> erawfish okay, thanks for your help
[16:01] <erawfish> you just have to make sure you doN't install grub to your MBR but a partition
[16:01] <sreekanth_> and due to that my friends cannot see my nuddy icon
[16:01] <sreekanth_> :(
[16:02] <twl3> (using guided entire disk)
[16:02] <erawfish> twl3: you install grub properly. please show us your partition layout
[16:02] <sreekanth_> its urgent...
[16:02] <sreekanth_> please help..
[16:02] <erawfish> sreekanth_: the more urgent you ar the less help you will get
[16:02] <twl3> i've just been using 'guided - entire disk', erawfish
[16:03] <sreekanth_> huh!....coz i have a date!
[16:03] <punkshui> sreekanth_ i fail to see how your friends not being able to see your buddy icon is urgent
[16:03] <Hami> Punkshui:not sure but I do hoave Flash9 installed flash9
[16:03] <erawfish> sreekanth_: then you will miss it. we don't give a damn
[16:03] <sreekanth_> punkshi_:do u use gyachi
[16:04] <bingodeville> !traffic > sreekanth_
[16:04] <Hami> punkshui: open firefox and open a youtube video and no sound??
[16:04] <sfears> fatal error: closing dependency file drivers/ide/pci/.hpt366.mod.o.d: No space left on device... i get that error while compiling a new kernel, i'm not out of disk space, anyone know what that means?
[16:05] <punkshui> Hami sorry no idea...
[16:05] <sreekanth_> mmm... i can load and see my pic, but a pop up message says...cannot connect to filetransfer.msg.yahoo.com
[16:05] <rvz5423> sfears: your filesystem is full
[16:05] <sreekanth_> is it bcoz i chose the wrong server?
[16:05] <Hami> punkshui: thanks
[16:05] <erawfish> sfears: either your disk is full or you ran out of inodes
[16:05] <jimcooncat> joe__ , ikonia: no problems! apache2 and vsftp got my website up. It's sure gotten easier.
[16:05] <sfears> what's an inode?
[16:06] <sfears> i have space left on the drive
[16:06] <erawfish> sfears: look at wikipedia. basically, a file entry
[16:06] <^root^> i have a video thats shot inverted, which player should i user and how do i rotated it by 180Deg?
[16:09] <scales> quick question: i have and sdhc sd card and would like to format it to ntfs.  i tried gparted but it will not let me select ntfs.  ideas?
[16:09] <sfears> how would i fix something like that? is there a make clean or anything that would help?
[16:09] <vwfanatic> Howdy everyone! I was wondering how I can configure the buttons on my mouse in Ubuntu Gutsy. The system preferences leaves something to be desired.
[16:11] <pestilence> and it makes noise when i change desktops?  how do i fix that...
[16:11] <dgjones> !mouse > vwfanatic, Please see the private message from ubotu
[16:11] <pestilence> guess i just change "notifications" to no audio output
[16:11] <haxality> hello, I'm having some problems getting the fglrx driver installed and working
[16:12] <haxality> restricted-manager doesn't seem to do anything, and none of the manual install instructions I've tried have worked
[16:14] <dury> ikonia: hji there :)
[16:14] <beggi> (deb smb://HOME/cd1/ breezy main)       is it OK?
[16:14] <dury> ikonia: sorry hi
[16:14] <benno2> hi, I am using gnome directly under ubuntu but I want to run it in a vnc session too (always the same machine, ubuntu and tightvnc as vnc server). the problem is that in the VNC sessions all fonts are a bit smaller than on the native X11 screen. any idea why ?
[16:14] <ikonia> dury: no problem
[16:15] <dury> ikonia: there is not basque package for openoffice
[16:15] <beggi> hi, i'm changing contents of sources.list Is it OK to write like this (deb smb://HOME/cd1/ breezy main)
[16:16] <jimcooncat> benno2: what are you using for a vnc client?
[16:16] <dury> ikonia: I have installed all required packages
[16:16] <ikonia> dury: to be honest I thought open office picked up it's language from the OS rather than the app
[16:16] <benno2> jimcooncat: tightvnc viewer
[16:16] <LjL> beggi: no, "smb://" is a gnome/kde thing
[16:17] <jimcooncat> benno2: I wonder if the client has scaling turned on
[16:17] <pestilence> with kde4, if i hit alt+f2 and type "konsole", hit enter, i get an error:  KDEInit could not launch '/usr/bin/konsole-kde4'.
[16:17] <dury> ikonia: so what's the solution for that?
[16:17] <benno2> jimcooncat: no. regular stuff. btw could this be my problem ? http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2003-May/039190.html
[16:17] <LjL> beggi: you need that samba share to be mounted, and then specify it the correct way, which however i'm not entirely sure about. also, you know that breezy is at end of life, right?
[16:17] <beggi> LjL, how to add samba share in repositories list
[16:18] <ikonia> dury: truthfully, no idea. you could either a.) log a launchpad request for a tranlsation package b.) ask in #openoffice if they are aware of a solution
[16:18] <LoneWolf> Hi all. I have a newbie question to ask. When trying to located a folder by using "cd" in terminal, is it not possible to locate a folder with a space in the folder name? for example, I would like to cd to a folder in my Windows partition, I type "cd /media/sda2/Program Files" and it cannot find the folder, because it cannot see the "Files" part of "Program FIles", is there something I need to do when folders have spaces in their names?
[16:19] <delliott> LoneWolf: cd Program\ Files
[16:19] <LoneWolf> thanks
[16:19] <LjL> beggi, you should simply be able to specify the correct directory, e.g. « deb /mnt/sambashare/HOME/cd1/something breezy main ». you need to mount the samba share under /mnt/sambashare (or some other directory), and i doubt that the repository is found at the root of the CD anyway
[16:19] <delliott> Or you can use tab-completion
[16:19] <jimcooncat> benno2: geez, I wouldn't think so.
[16:19] <loMMi> hi
[16:20] <beggi> LjL. yes i mounted it and nautilius can open this share,
[16:20] <delliott> LoneWolf: type cd /media/sda2/P[press tab now] this will perform tab completion
[16:20] <LjL> beggi: if nautilus can open it using a "smb://" address, that doesn't mean it's mounted
[16:20] <jimcooncat> benno2: I have good luck with vnc4server, haven't used tightvnc in years
[16:20] <beggi> Ljl, ok I understood
[16:20] <LjL> !smb > beggi    (beggi, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:21] <LoneWolf> delliott ; I see, thanks for the help
[16:21] <ajitam> hi if I install something with apt-get can I uninstall it or somehow delete it ? thx
[16:21] <Micksa> hi guys, I have a small problem with my gutsy which I could use some help with.
[16:21] <benno2> jimcooncat: you mean with vnc4server you get the same fonts locally and via vnc ?
[16:21] <LjL> !apt > ajitam    (ajitam, see the private message from Ubotu) of course
[16:21] <Micksa> After a dist-upgrade (I guess) I can no longer mount usb disks
[16:21] <benno2> jimcooncat: is vnc4server = realvnc ?
[16:22] <Micksa> they don't mount automatically, and when I attempt to mount them from the mount applet thing I get an error box pop up with no message in it
[16:22] <^root^> anyone?
[16:22] <Micksa> I can at least mount from the cmdline
[16:22] <jimcooncat> benno2: I seem to. yes, I believe it is realvnc
[16:22] <benno2> jimcooncat: thanks. I always heard that using tightvnc is preferable as it works better and has more encoding options
[16:23] <beggi> LjL, it's .iso image mounted on smb://mnt/cd1
[16:23] <beggi> LjL, I just want to add to repository list because my cdrom can't be found by OS
[16:24] <Pici> beggi: Is the iso on the same computer that you are mounting from?
[16:24] <jimcooncat> benno2: I believe the vnc4server has tight encoding. Anyway, I have no problem over DSL lines with it (through SSH even).
[16:24] <LjL> beggi, but you need to mount the *samba share*, not the iso. what is "smb://mnt/cd1"? the name of the machine running samba is not "mnt", i assume...
[16:24] <benno2> jimcooncat: I am using it locally, for me the most important requirement is stability, that it does not leak memory over time and does not crash
[16:24] <beggi> Pici, yes it's in my /home directory it's breezy 5.10 iso image
[16:25] <^root^> anyone?
[16:25] <Pici> beggi: How are you mounting the iso?
[16:25] <^root^> i have a video thats shot inverted, which player should i user and how do i rotated it by 180Deg?
[16:25] <Pici> !anyone | ^root^
[16:25] <ubotu> ^root^: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[16:25] <beggi> LjL, oh sorry, I typed wrong, my machne name is HOME so smb://HOME/cd1 this is reachable by nautiliuss
[16:25] <jimcooncat> benno2: I've had great stability with it, unlike the Windows vnc server apps.
[16:26] <LjL> beggi: but as i said, nautilus has its own way of reaching samba shares. for apt, you need to actually *mount* the samba share: sudo mount -t cifs /HOME/cd1 /mnt/somedirectory
[16:26] <jschitto> erUSUL: im sorry, i needed a jumper for sata 150 mode
[16:26] <LjL> read the tutorial
[16:26] <beggi> Pici, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-mount-iso-image-under-linux.html by this tutorial
[16:26] <benno2> jimcooncat: thanks, giving vnc4server a try.
[16:27] <jimcooncat> benno2: good luck
[16:27] <LjL> beggi, the problem is not mounting the iso image, it's mounting the *samba share of that other machine of yours called HOME*
[16:27] <Symmetria> hrm, whats the command to install a .deb file you've downloaded
[16:27] <LjL> Symmetria: gdebi
[16:28] <emeline> SLT
[16:28] <Symmetria> thanks
[16:29] <Pici> beggi: I'm just confused, is the ISO on the same computer that you are trying to modify your sources.list file or no?
[16:29] <kam1> hi
[16:30] <oldude67> is anyone running kde4 yet?
[16:30] <kam1> where is the complete noob help room?
[16:30] <heatmzzr> trying to play a dvd, it looks all screwed up, green blocks, scrambled up? help
[16:30] <Pici> oldude67: yes, you can ask for help with it in #kubuntu
[16:30] <Pici> kam1: You're in the right place (for Ubuntu support at least)
[16:31] <oldude67> Pici, was already going there thanks anyways
[16:31] <kam1> ok, I had 64bit xpinstalled, media ctr installed and then put ubuntu on over the 64 bit xp (the trial expired)
[16:31] <kam1> now my media center is gone
[16:31] <beggi> Pici, yes computer name is HOME, iso is located in my /home/beggi/ directory
[16:31] <kam1> should i not even bother with it?
[16:31] <ajitam> hi I get "XAMPP: Another web server daemon is already running." how can I see witch daemon is running and how do I stop it ?
[16:32] <Pici> beggi: But is that the same computer that you are trying to update your sources.list file on?
[16:32] <beggi> Pici, is it possible to add iso image to sources.list?
[16:32] <LjL> beggi: then why on earth are you using smb to access it, if it's on your local computer? smb (samba) is for accessing *remote* files, files that are *on another computer*
[16:32] <a4ndr3c> ajitam: /etc/init.d/<daemon> start|stop
[16:32] <beggi> Pice, yes it's same computer
[16:33] <kam1> is gaim included with gutsy?
[16:33] <Pici> beggi: see LjL's response ^
[16:33] <Pici> kam1: Its called Pidgin now.
[16:33] <ajitam> a4ndr3c: thx but how do I found out which daemon I'm dealing with
[16:33] <LjL> kam1: no
[16:33] <LjL> !pidgin > kam1    (kam1, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:33] <kam1> thanks guys,
[16:33] <dkalderson7414> dkf
[16:33] <Pici> kam1: When you were installing Ubuntu, what kind of paritioning did you do? Are you sure that you didnt tell it to use the whole drive?
[16:33] <kam1> i went to the ubuntu community and that was the first thing they said
[16:34] <heatmzzr> after i download a tar.gz file, where should i put it and what do i do with it
[16:34] <a4ndr3c> ajitam: cd /etc/init.d then see which daemon u want to stop
[16:34] <kam1> nope. that hd had 2 partitions, and i kept the xp one the same
[16:34] <kam1> i had 64bit windows and media ctr on seperate ones already so
[16:34] <Pici> heatmzzr: a tar.gz file is just a compressed file, like a zip file.  It depends what it is and why you downloaded...
[16:34] <ajitam> a4ndr3c: thx
[16:35] <kam1> is there any way to play ddo on linux?
[16:35] <Pici> kam1: Whats DDO?
[16:35] <beggi> LjL, because this computer can't find it's cdrom device so i can't use breezy cds. so i'm using iso, also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-8a18d4250a1c368b58239ba0d6fcc4e5639fa42f here are 5 rep types. So I thought SMB is suitable for this situation
[16:35] <heatmzzr> pici: libdvdcss
[16:35] <dka7414> how do i install live ubuntu support from gnomefiles?
[16:35] <LjL> ajitam: aptitude search "~i~Phttpd"
[16:35] <kam1> dungeons and dragons online, it is an mmorpg
[16:36] <diepes> how do i download a flash video to disk ?   e.g http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=6454521153918323669&autoPlay=true&playerMode=embedded
[16:36] <Pici> heatmzzr: Why are you trying to install it from a tar.gz file?
[16:36] <MrKeuner> hi, is there a way to put a line in crontab and make sure that it is run the next time it is turned on if it was turned off at the scheduled time?
[16:36] <a4ndr3c> kam1: try install it in wine
[16:36] <kam1> hou hou
[16:36] <dka7414> and also does anyone know where to get some cool avant window navigator curve themes
[16:36] <kam1> i havent even found wine yet
[16:36] <Pici> !wine | kam1
[16:36] <ubotu> kam1: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[16:36] <a4ndr3c> kam1: apt-get install wine
[16:37] <kam1> ok
[16:37] <dka7414> the kam1 to find wine install automatix
[16:37] <diepes> MrKeuner: what would turn off cron ?
[16:37] <dgjones> !automatix | dka7414
[16:37] <ubotu> dka7414: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[16:37] <dka7414> it is a option
[16:37] <kam1> got that it is low on the priority checklist though
[16:37] <LjL> beggi: SMB has nothing to do with this situation. samba is *only* useful when *two* machines are involved. here, you simply need to *mount* the iso, and that's it. mount it, and then try « sudo apt-cdrom -d /path/to/where/it/is/mounted add"
[16:37] <heatmzzr> well ive tried all i can think of and the dvd starts up now but only through previews then it gets all choppy and crappy looking during movie or errorss out?
[16:37] <MrKeuner> diepes: not anacron the system
[16:37] <dka7414> true but it is an option if you have problems i had masive problems installing wine
[16:37] <kam1> is the dvd scratched?
[16:37] <beggi> LjL, ok I will try this
[16:38] <Pici> dka7414: No, its is not an option and is NOT supported here.
[16:38] <dgjones> dka7414, wine is easy to install via synaptic or apt-get
[16:38] <roald> does xine use the same codecs as mplayer?
[16:38] <heatmzzr> you get that pici?
[16:38] <dka7414> why is it so unsupported tell me for future reference
[16:38] <amiralul> is there any known problems with the newest NVIDIA drivers?
[16:38] <mark2007> hi, i'm on dapper and when I unplug the AC power to my laptop it automatically locks the screen. how can i stop this?
[16:38] <neverblue> amiralul, check the forums
[16:38] <Pici> !medibuntu | heatmzzr
[16:38] <kam1> how long has flash been broken?
[16:38] <dka7414> because i activated all the repositories necessary and had problems
[16:39] <a4ndr3c> mark2007: do u mean locks the session?
[16:39] <neverblue> kam1, a bit
[16:39] <kam1> and does that usually take care of itself in a reasonable amt of time?
[16:39] <th0r> MrKeuner what are you trying to accomplish with cron?
[16:39] <dgjones> dka7414, have a look at the link in ubotu's message, that explains the problems with automatix
[16:39] <ubotu> heatmzzr: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[16:39] <dka7414> thanx
[16:39] <Pici> heatmzzr: Yes, I got it, Use medibuntu to install libdvdcss.
[16:39] <amiralul> I booted normal my UBuntu LiveDVD and X server was serving me a scrambled. Also, installing the latest NVIDIA on my Slackware box, also caused X to act weird
[16:39] <mark2007> a4ndr3c, yeh the same as Ctrl+Alt+L
[16:39] <neverblue> kam1 check the !flash trigger (type !flash > kam1 )
[16:39] <ali1234> it is possible/safe to resize (shrink) ntfs partitions using the 7.10 install disc?
[16:39] <LjL> beggi: uhm, apt-cdrom will probably not work though... i'm afraid it will know that it's not really a cd, unless you list it in /etc/fstab
[16:39] <beggi> LjL, Pici it's working thank you very much
[16:39] <MrKeuner> th0r: I would like to put a line so that it will run an rsync command every night or the next time it is turned on
[16:39] <a4ndr3c> mark2007: log off then
[16:39] <LjL> ali1234: it's possible, never safe
[16:40] <kam1> !flash > kam1
[16:40] <Pici> beggi: thank LjL, I didnt do much for you
[16:40] <neverblue> ali1234, with data on it, and not lose any ?
[16:40] <a4ndr3c> mark2007: do u use gnome as desktop manager?
[16:40] <mark2007> a4ndr3c, yes
[16:40] <dka7414> kam1 listen to what they said they were right sorry
[16:40] <ali1234> yeah, obviously with data on it :/
[16:40] <abhi_> my gcc is not generating an output file
[16:40] <abhi_> what's wrong??
[16:40] <genii> ali1234: Make sure the filesystem is marked clean before resizing. eg: run chkdsk on it from within windows
[16:40] <neverblue> dka7414, East Coaster?
[16:40] <dka7414> midwest
[16:40] <kam1> cool thanks again
[16:40] <LjL> ali1234: it's still possible, but it's really always unsafe to resize a partition. you should have a backup
[16:40] <beggi> LjL, I think it's working, new versions are showing in synaptec package manager
[16:41] <dury> ikonia: is it possible to install this => OOo_2.2.1_LinuxX86_install_eu_deb.tar.gz
[16:41] <kam1> how can i gety my usb web cam working again?
[16:41] <th0r> MrKeuner cron is what you want for nightly ops, but it won' t automatically run when turned on. What i would do is put the rsync in a script that writes the date to a file...just the date...then write another script that is run at login, reads that file, and if the date is different runs the rsync
[16:41] <ali1234> but i mean, obviously it's never going to be 100% safe. but is it even worth trying, or is it guaranteed to completely destroy the partition?
[16:41] <LjL> beggi: well i thought it wouldn't, but if it does, good
[16:41] <PriceChild> kam1, working "again"? when did it sotp working?
[16:41] <dka7414> can anyone give a good link to help me with how to install ubuntu live support from gnome files
[16:41] <mark2007> how can i stop a laptop from locking the screen when the ac power is unplugged?
[16:41] <combinio> hello, do u know maybe how to connect router ??
[16:41] <kam1> hehe
[16:41] <neverblue> ali1234, it will destroy all your info on that partition
[16:41] <a4ndr3c> mark2007: go to administration settings i think
[16:41] <PriceChild> mark2007, that's not standard behaviour
[16:41] <dka7414> does everyone have compiz fusion and avant window navigator in here
[16:42] <Pici> dka7414: What is 'ubuntu live support from gnomefiles'?
[16:42] <LjL> ali1234, it's done by default by the installer if it detects a Windows partition covering the whole drive and you don't instruct it otherwise, so it's generally "safe"
[16:42] <diepes> mark2007: can you then unlockit again
[16:42] <a4ndr3c> mark2007: power configurations
[16:42] <kam1> it stopped when i lost windows, so never since installing ubuntu
[16:42] <dka7414> check out gnome files on the web
[16:42] <MrKeuner> th0r: I see so anacron cannot do that for me
[16:42] <kam1> so.. new question: how do I get a web cam working ?
[16:42] <Pici> dka7414: CAn you provide me with a link?
[16:42] <Pici> !webcame | kam1
[16:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about webcame - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:42] <mark2007> diepes, yes, it's just gnome screen lock. it's just a little irritating
[16:42] <dka7414> yea hold on
[16:42] <Pici> !webcam | kam1
[16:42] <ubotu> kam1: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[16:42] <amiralul> so, no one noticed any NVIDIA hicups lately?
[16:42] <kam1> !webcam
[16:42] <th0r> MrKeuner I am not familiar with anacron...give me a sec
[16:42] <mark2007> a4ndr3c, theres nothing related to it in the power settings
[16:42] <ali1234> LjL: oh really... well that's good enough for me
[16:42] <Pici> kam1: just look at what ubotu said.
[16:42] <LjL> !webcam > kam1    (kam1, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:43] <kam1> !webcam | kam1
[16:43] <egc> hey guys
[16:43] <LjL> sigh
[16:43] <dka7414> just go to www.gnomefiles.com
[16:43] <a4ndr3c> mark2007: humm damn.. when u close your laptop lid it logoff too?
[16:43] <dka7414> it is a site with packages for gnome
[16:43] <Pici> dka7414: I dont know what you mean by 'ubuntu live support'...
[16:43] <beggi> LjL, it's ok, now i'm going to update to breezy :D
[16:43] <egc> how can I keep X from starting automatically? I.e., how do i configure things such that i need to type "startx" to start X?
[16:43] <roald_> does xine use the same codecs as mplayer?
[16:43] <th0r> MrKeuner you know...it does look like it will do what you want. I will have to look into that further...learn something new every day <smile>. Thanks
[16:43] <mark2007> a4ndr3c, all other power stuff is fine, it's just when i unplug the power that it's not how i want
[16:43] <LjL> beggi: you're going to upgrade to a way out-of-date version... if you're happy with that :)
[16:44] <a4ndr3c> egc: uninstall gdm or kdm
[16:44] <dka7414> Pici go to gnomefiles.com and it is one of the first packages available
[16:44] <combinio> diods are blinking (in modem and in router) but internet doesn't work :/
[16:44] <frankS_> roald_: maybe, some of them atleast. you can configure xineand mplayer to use different directories for codecs
[16:44] <dka7414> compiz and avant window navigator is awesome
[16:44] <Pici> dka7414: What am I looking for?
[16:44] <egc> a4ndr3c: and I'll still be able to type "startx"?
[16:44] <dka7414> ubuntu live support
[16:45] <dka7414> under chat clients
[16:45] <jimcooncat> how to do mass rename on command line? mv doesn't seem to work
[16:45] <PriceChild> !offtopic | dka7414
[16:45] <ubotu> dka7414: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[16:45] <th0r> MrKeuner I just discovered....my ubuntu server has anacron...my suse laptop never heard of it!
[16:45] <LjL> jimcooncat: man rename
[16:45] <beggi> LjL, yeah i know then to dapper, edgy, feisty , gutsy like this way
[16:45] <KEBA> hi
[16:45] <Pici> PriceChild: Hes asking how to install a package.
[16:45] <dka7414> please explain more
[16:46] <dka7414> how do i get those
[16:46] <jimcooncat> LjL ok, I tried but had syntax wrong. thanks
[16:46] <PriceChild> dka7414, read ubotu's message
[16:46] <LjL> beggi, actually you'd be probably better off reinstalling gutsy from scratch, than going through all those updates... however, that might be hard to achieve without a cd drive
[16:46] <Pici> !who | dka7414
[16:46] <ubotu> dka7414: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[16:46] <a4ndr3c> mark2007: corse, that's very strange.. it always worked like that in your computer or starts with no reason?
[16:46] <katxabas> :)
[16:46] <KEBA> how to start firefrox only by type in contl and f ?`???
[16:46] <ajitam> a4ndr3c: can I remove daemon from init.d (so that it doesn't start with next reboot)
[16:46] <dka7414> ubotu= thanx
[16:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:47] <LjL> !thanx is <alias> thanks
[16:47] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[16:47] <Skiessl> is there a tool for recovering files from a ntfs partition that was on this hard drive before this ubuntu one?
[16:47] <a4ndr3c> egc: i think u need to configure X to load the desktop manager u want, but for default in ubuntu when u tyoe startx it load gnome
[16:47] <white_eagle> hello, I have a problem with java, I have the mozilla plugin 1.4 installed from the repos and the sun java webstart 6 and the sun java 5.0 plugin and the sun java runtime enviroment 6 and i still can't play games at yahoo! and it gives me this error message "This game cannot be played using your current settings. "
[16:47] <dka7414> any help on install .bin files
[16:47] <mark2007> a4ndr3c, i've only just installed dapper today on this laptop, and it does it everytime i unplug
[16:47] <MrKeuner> th0r: thank you very much, I'll be reading it further too
[16:47] <KEBA> dka, mabye youve to comile the code
[16:47] <white_eagle> I mean sun java enviroment 5 sorry
[16:47] <LjL> Skiessl: there are tools, but most are DOS or Windows tools. and if the partition was *overwritten* by the ubuntu one, your chances are extremely low.
[16:47] <PriceChild> dka7414, what is inside it?
[16:48] <th0r> MrKeuner I am reading the man page off my server. It does look like exactly what you want...and something good for my toolbox also <smile>
[16:48] <a4ndr3c> mark2007: try upgrading to edgy... im not seeing why that is happning... :(
[16:48] <Gate_Laptop> white_eagle: did you apt-get install them? Did Firefox do it?
[16:48] <dka7414> KEBA when i go to ./configure it wont it says there is no package of that kind
[16:48] <white_eagle> i apt-get installed them
[16:48] <punkshui> ok i was recently told on this channel to install grub to my restore partition.. .i've also read on forums that this action permanently disables the ability to restore windows on dell computers can anyone clear this up for me.. there is no installation disc for windows with this computer and i want to be able to restore factory settings in the future.
[16:48] <KEBA> how old is the time?
[16:48] <egc> a4ndr3c: i see what you're saying; what i'd like is for no window manager to start up automatically.  I'd like a text terminal to be default
[16:48] <dka7414> I'm trying to install realplayer
[16:48] <dury> Is it possible to install this => OOo_2.2.1_LinuxX86_install_eu_deb.tar.gz
[16:48] <Gate_Laptop> white_eagle: ok, I did the same. I am looking to see if mine work (I have used them on other sites)
[16:48] <mark2007> a4ndr3c, i had to downgrade to dapper to enable wireless on this adapter, for some reason it wouldn't work in newer versions of ubuntu
[16:48] <PriceChild> dka7414, what is inside it?
[16:48] <dka7414> is there a suggestion for a better player
[16:48] <dury> in Ubuntu?
[16:49] <KEBA> (17:48:33) KEBA: how old is the time?
[16:49] <MrKeuner> th0r: are you reading crontab or anacron man page?
[16:49] <dka7414> Pricechild one min ill get it
[16:49] <KEBA> (17:48:33) KEBA: how old is the time?
[16:49] <LjL> dury: eh? is that openoffice? why would you install like that, when there's a *newer* version in the repositories?
[16:49] <kam1> hgmmm
[16:49] <PriceChild> KEBA, pardon?
[16:49] <kam1> anyone use easycam?
[16:49] <Pici> KEBA: Please stop. What are you asking?
[16:49] <beggi> LjL, yeah but i have to do it withour fomating
[16:49] <KEBA> oh soory i mean, what tiem is it?
[16:49] <PriceChild> !offtopic | KEBA
[16:49] <ubotu> KEBA: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[16:49] <dury> OOo_2.2.1_LinuxX86_install_eu_deb.tar.gz - this is in my language
[16:49] <a4ndr3c> egc: do u use gnome as default desktop manager?
[16:49] <th0r> MrKeuner anacron. ... it is installed on my server running ubuntu, but there isn't even a package for it in suse...will have to find the source and compile it
[16:49] <PriceChild> !away > Tyczek|afk
[16:50] <KEBA> o o soory.,,
[16:50] <egc> a4ndr3c, yup
[16:50] <Pici> dury: Why not install OpenOffice from the repositories?
[16:50] <a4ndr3c> egc: ok try apt-get remove gdm
[16:50] <LjL> beggi: well, good luck... that's a lot of upgrades
[16:50] <a4ndr3c> egc: then reboot
[16:50] <dka7414> Pricechild im trying to install realplay-10.0.9 and have extracted it to the desktop so far
[16:50] <LjL> dury: which language is that?
[16:50] <fbc> How do I get flash on x64?
[16:50] <LjL> !flash64 > fbc    (fbc, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:50] <dury> LjL: basque
[16:51] <Gate_Laptop> white_eagle: I just joined a game of Yahoo checkers and I could observe a match, I am presuming that you can't get that far?
[16:51] <white_eagle> Gate_Laptop, no I can't
[16:51] <PriceChild> dka7414, sh path/to/file.bin
[16:51] <punkshui> hey Pici, you've helped me before: i'm looking to do a new ubuntu install on my girlfriends laptop.. i've convinced here linux is better than windows for political reasons.. but am now running into the problem of these restore partitions and the fact that her dell doesn't come with an xp cd
[16:51] <beggi> LjL, thanks fo all
[16:51] <white_eagle> I'm using ff 2
[16:51] <Gate_Laptop> white_eagle: ok, I am going to get the versions I have installed, just a moment.
[16:51] <babo> how do I stop scribus from opening .txt files ?
[16:51] <babo> it's really annoying
[16:51] <babo> Does anyone on here use QEMU ?
[16:51] <PriceChild> babo, right click it, properties, then you can choose the default app to open them
[16:51] <Pici> punkshui: Whats wrong with the retore partitions?
[16:52] <babo> PriceChild, I tried that but it doesn't work ... :-(
[16:52] <dka7414> i did sh realplay-10.0.9 in the terminal and it didnt work. i did it when i cd to the desktop and realplay folder
[16:52] <PriceChild> babo, can't help then sorry
[16:52] <a4ndr3c> babo: did u try web based virtual machine maker?
[16:52] <dury> LjL: how is it going there?
[16:52] <dka7414> is this wrong
[16:52] <LjL> !info language-pack-gnome-eu | dury
[16:52] <ubotu> dury: language-pack-gnome-eu: GNOME translation updates for language Basque. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.10+20071120 (gutsy), package size 78 kB, installed size 300 kB
[16:52] <PriceChild> dka7414, type "ls" and make sure you see the file in there
[16:52] <punkshui> Pici: well nothing yet.. but i want to be able to restore factory settings on this laptop after the ubuntu installation if necessary. so i think i should leave them alone... i just don't really know how they work or if i can do damage to them by installing ubuntu
[16:52] <LjL> !info language-pack-eu | dury
[16:52] <ubotu> dury: language-pack-eu: translation updates for language Basque. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.10+20071120 (gutsy), package size 40 kB, installed size 168 kB
[16:52] <PriceChild> dka7414, then "sh realpl" thebn press <tab> to get it to complete the name
[16:53] <PriceChild> dka7414, then you can press enter
[16:53] <babo> PriceChild, ah ok sorry - that did work ... i tried something else
[16:53] <Gate_Laptop> white_eagle: did you install sun-java-plugin or something else?
[16:53] <babo> a4ndr3c, what's that ?
[16:53] <Pici> punkshui: My thinkpad had a recovery session, Ubuntu actually detected it and gave me an extra grub option just in case I wanted to boot into that.
[16:53] <dury> already install it
[16:53] <a4ndr3c> babo: u want to create a virtual machine with qemu?
[16:53] <dury> my ubuntu is not gutsy
[16:54] <LjL> dury: also language-support-eu is installed?
[16:54] <punkshui> Pici: okay.. so i shouldn't worry too much about it.. do you dual boot windows and ubuntu on your thinkpad?
[16:54] <babo> I really liked QEMU and generally thought it was great. It stopped working two ubuntu releases ago. It just errors and says it can't find the framebuffer. I can't blame it though - cause it appears that there is no framebuffer in dev ...
[16:54] <babo> somebody moved it ...
[16:54] <dury> yeah
[16:54] <white_eagle> Gate_Laptop, I installed them from add/remove programes
[16:54] <alfi> brauche ein Diktierprogramm für Ubuntu,hallo
[16:54] <PriceChild> !de | alfi
[16:54] <ubotu> alfi: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[16:54] <babo> a4ndr3c, well I want to run a virtual machine. Creating one would be a bonus though ;-)
[16:54] <beezelbub> i've got both a 13.3 macbook running osx and 15.4 dell running ubuntu. they both run at 1280x1024, yet ubuntu feels like it is 1024x768 because the window decorations are so large. i've already taken the dpi down from 96 to 82 and that helps a bit, but not enough. are there any ways to bring the ubuntu setup on par with osx, resolution-wise?
[16:54] <Gate_Laptop> hm, hold on, I will get you a command to find out
[16:54] <dka7414> ok i ls and realplay was there then i put in the partial name and hit tab and it finished the name and when i pressed enter it just went to myname@mycomputer:~/Desktop$
[16:54] <Pici> punkshui: I used to, until I realized that I never actually booted into windows since I got the thing.
[16:54] <dury> how can I know which Ubuntu I have
[16:55] <LjL> dury, ok, then extract that tarball (tar xf filename.tar.gz), and then tell me what's in it (use ls)
[16:55] <Pici> dury: lsb_release -a
[16:55] <LjL> !version | dury
[16:55] <ubotu> dury: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[16:55] <white_eagle> I can't install Sun Java 6 Web Start (32bit) is that the problem?
[16:55] <white_eagle> and I HAVE a 32 bit system
[16:55] <punkshui> Pici: ha, i imagine she'll have quite the same experience.. i just want her to have the option to reload windows.. can you give me any directions on installing ubuntu? partitions, etc..
[16:56] <dka7414> PriceChild= on another topic i have been having trouble ./configure a lot of packages
[16:56] <PriceChild> dka7414, why are you wanting to do that?
[16:56] <babo> a4ndr3c, ?
[16:56] <a4ndr3c> babo: go here  www.easyvmx.com , create your vm then run it with vmplayer
[16:57] <dury> No LSB modules are available.
[16:57] <dury> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[16:57] <dka7414> Im not trying to configure this package i was just saying
[16:57] <dury> Description:    Ubuntu 7.10
[16:57] <dury> Release:        7.10
[16:57] <dury> Codename:       gutsy
[16:57] <LjL> !paste > dury    (dury, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:57] <PriceChild> !paste | dury
[16:57] <ubotu> dury: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[16:57] <Gate_Laptop> white_eagle: I *do* have that installed, so maybe
[16:57] <a4ndr3c> babo: if u want a very simple how too i can help :)
[16:57] <ali1234> babo: perhaps you need to tell qemu to run in X mode, not framebuffer?
[16:57] <LjL> dury: you're on gutsy
[16:57] <PriceChild> dury, you need only have told us one line of that (ie 7.10 or gutsy)
[16:57] <babo> a4ndr3c, vmplayer is free ? I hate closed source products ...
[16:57] <Gate_Laptop> white_eagle: what is the output of this command? "dpkg-query -l | grep sun-java*"
[16:57] <LjL> babo: it free as in price, but closed source
[16:57] <white_eagle> Gate_Laptop, but why can't I install?
[16:57] <LjL> !virtualbox > babo    (babo, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:57] <_KAMI3> Hello! Do you want to promote free softwares in Hungary? There is a MS sponsored competition at www.legalizalj.hu
[16:57] <dury> sorry channel really sorry
[16:57] <Gate_Laptop> not sure, I will write a command to install that next :)
[16:57] <a4ndr3c> babo: it is free, apt-get install vmware-player
[16:58] <Pici> punkshui: I'd say about 1.5xRAM for swap, the rest for /, perhaps a /home parition if you want too.
[16:58] <white_eagle> !pastebin
[16:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[16:58] <LjL> a4ndr3c: 1) that won't work in Gutsy, it has been removed from the repositories 2) it's free as in price, but it's closed source, and he said he hates closed source products
[16:58] <LjL> !free
[16:58] <ubotu> freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[16:58] <babo> LjL: what's virtual box like ?
[16:58] <a4ndr3c> babo: only the player is free, but it what u need to run the vm so.. :)
[16:58] <LjL> babo: very much like vmware, kind of slower in my experience, but free
[16:59] <_KAMI3> I uploaded one video that promote Linux (my second (much better video) is on the way – please vote to it
[16:59] <dka7414> anyone have any cool links about cool things to do with compiz fusion or avant window navigator
[16:59] <a4ndr3c> LjL: virtual box supports 3d rendering I think
[16:59] <punkshui> Pici: and the placement of the swap and root partitions? my partition table is kinda weird.. it has 8mb of free space ... it doesn't seem to clearly match up to the actual partitions
[16:59] <th0r> MrKeuner do you understand the tab file for anacron?
[16:59] <Odd_Bloke> Segmentation fault.
[16:59] <Timon_Crazy> bbl
[16:59] <heatmzzr> pici?
[17:00] <white_eagle> Gate_Laptop, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51557/plain/
[17:00] <LjL> a4ndr3c: hmm, i know that *vmware* has experimental support for Direct3D, virtualbox i'm not sure, i thought not
[17:00] <dka7414> I love ubuntu
[17:00] <dka7414> none other that is better
[17:00] <Pici> punkshui: In my experience the placement does not matter.
[17:00] <Pici> heatmzzr: ?
[17:00] <LjL> punkshui: some megabytes of unpartitioned space often happen, nothing to worry about
[17:01] <MrKeuner> th0r: do you mean the /etc/crontab? a little
[17:01] <sreekanth_> how can i disable firewall in feisty?
[17:01] <dka7414> alright im outta here yall thanx ubuto and PriceChild and everyone for the support
[17:01] <kam1> anyone familiar with easycam?
[17:01] <babo> a4ndr3c, can you run x mode and vga standard simulataneously ?
[17:01] <Odd_Bloke> How do you spell "Segmentation fault."?
[17:01] <babo> a4ndr3c, http://www.easyvmx.com/ is down ...
[17:01] <benJIman> Odd_Bloke: S.E.G.M.E.N.T.A.T.I.O.N. .F.A.U.L.T.
[17:01] <nickrud> rolaids
[17:01] <heatmzzr> went through everything libdvdcss etc.. dvd's playback previews flawlessly, then when dvd should go to dvd menu, (so you could click play) it errors out... how do i get dvds to play?
[17:01] <th0r> MrKeuner there is also a /etc/anacrontab...that is the file you want for your rsync command
[17:02] <ali1234> qemu has experimental 3d acceleration...
[17:02] <heatmzzr> went to medi pici, did all that installed it all
[17:02] <LjL> ali1234: for opengl i assume?
[17:02] <Gate_Laptop> whoops, he left.
[17:02] <th0r> MrKeuner I am looking at the file on my server, but it doesn't quite match what the man page says
[17:02] <Pici> heatmzzr: What software are you using to play the dvd?
[17:02] <punkshui> Pici okay, so I don't have to worry about boot records etc... on forums they mention having to install something in the boot.ini file on the restore partition in order to boot ubuntu...
[17:02] <a4ndr3c> babo: damn... I can e-mail u a win xp vm if u want
[17:03] <babo> a4ndr3c, nah it's ok cheers ..
[17:03] <heatmzzr> tried all, totem movie player, gxine...
[17:03] <Pici> punkshui: I'm not familiar with having to do that, but it could be a different setup than I know.
[17:03] <ali1234> LjL: yes, that's what it says. there is a direct3d to opengl wrapper available for windows too
[17:03] <babo> Can I run x-mode and vga standard simultaneously ... ?
[17:03] <heatmzzr> could there be conflicting software pici?
[17:03] <lousygarua_> nvidia+compiz frequently hangs when i have maximized or fullscreen windows - is that something common or rings a bell to anyone?
[17:03] <a4ndr3c> babo: try it (the site) another day. Its very simple to create vms there
[17:03] <punkshui> Pici: well alright, i'll just give it a shot... thanks again
[17:03] <ali1234> babo: what does that mean, x-mode and vga?
[17:04] <ali1234> you mean run the host full screen?
[17:04] <Pici> heatmzzr: Do you by chance have libdvdread installed as well?
[17:04] <Gate_Laptop> lousygarua_: I know it doesn't like it when I have a fullscreen game running
[17:04] <heatmzzr> pici: yes
[17:04] <ali1234> i mean guest
[17:04] <babo> ali1234, hmm dunno - someone suggested that i run qemu in x-mode cause it couldn't find any framebuffer on ubuntu ... I'm wondering whether or not i can run x-mode simultaneously ...
[17:05] <lousygarua_> Gate_Laptop: yes but does it ever hang or dies? i couldn't even ctrl+alt+f1 so i have to use the magical-debian-keystrokes to reboot
[17:05] <bratjan> idziemy na piwo?
[17:05] <ali1234> babo: simultaneously with what?
[17:05] <heatmzzr> do i need to take it off pici?
[17:05] <Pici> heatmzzr: Do you have issues with all dvds or just this one?
[17:05] <Pici> heatmzzr: no, dont take it off.
[17:05] <babo> ali1234, normal mode ...
[17:05] <Gate_Laptop> lousygarua_: I have had that happen in other circumstances, but not with compiz running and not correlated to fullscreen games, so sorry :(
[17:05] <babo> framebuffer mode
[17:05] <ali1234> babo: x mode is normal mode
[17:06] <Gate_Laptop> lousygarua_: I mean fullscreen programs :)
[17:06] <heatmzzr> havent tried any others except rush hour 3, all i have with me
[17:06] <ali1234> babo: framebuffer graphics are almost never used these days
[17:06] <babo> ali1234, hmm maybe I was thinking of mode X ?
[17:06] <lousygarua_> Gate_Laptop: k thanks, i'll try updateing to latest compiz i guess
[17:06] <Pici> heatmzzr: I'm stumped, you could try asking the rest of the channel though
[17:07] <bratjan> w 2008 mój komputer zaczal sie dziwnie zachowywac normalnie runing ubuntu i tak ucieka i skacze i fruwa i Bóg wie co jeszcze no i nie wiem co mam z TYM zrobić 6.06. no problem ale to to już jest normalnie crash
[17:07] <babo> ali1234, how can i run qemu in x-mode ?
[17:07] <heatmzzr> pici, it errors out before menu screen, when i select file .VOB it plays but looks like crap green blocks and etc...
[17:08] <ali1234> babo: i'm looking it up now
[17:09] <bratjan> ìŐŕŔŰÝГВёДдЧёввФффФТУДťЁÔЗ
[17:09] <bratjan>       Ůииő óеñЁвв Őøÿмş
[17:09] <LjL> !pl | bratjan
[17:09] <ubotu> bratjan: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[17:10] <Shaw1> hey, maybe someone knows this... I deleted /etc/bind , now when I reinstall via apt, it wont install the example files
[17:10] <ali1234> babo: qemu uses SDL so do something like "SDL_VIDEODRIVER=x11 qemu" should force it. but it should be using X by default...
[17:11] <LjL> Shaw1: try apt-get --purge remove packagename and then reinstalling (if it lets you without removing tons of other packages)
[17:11] <ali1234> babo: can you pastebin a full log of what happens when you run qemu? (at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org)
[17:11] <ksbalaji> I have ubuntu gutsy. Now I want to use my ADSL MT882 - thru ISP - BSNL-India  for broadband connection. I tried pppoeconf.  It gave error: see your cable connections -or another pppoe is controlling your modem..-but the hardware works well in MSW... Where is the error? Please ... guide...
[17:11] <babo> ali1234, http://pastebin.com/m2dfc4809 thanks
[17:12] <babo> ali1234, i was just in the process of doing that ;-)
[17:13] <Shaw1>  LjL: Thanks!
[17:14] <ikonia> dury: apologies I was away from my keyboard
[17:14] <ikonia> dury: are you still there
[17:14] <mark2007> my laptop goes into lock screen (in gnome) when the power is unplugged. I've looked through /etc/acpi/events/battery and all related scripts from that file but I can't find anything that causes it. does anyone have any idea what else could be the cause
[17:14] <dury> ikonia: yeah
[17:15] <ikonia> dury: I would not install that tar file
[17:16] <babo> ali1234, are you still there ?
[17:17] <ali1234> babo: what version of qemu are you using?
[17:17] <ali1234> you are running it in X windows right? not in a console?
[17:17] <fruitbag> Man
[17:17] <fruitbag> I love Ubuntu
[17:17] <fruitbag> Hey, guys -- what is the difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu?
[17:18] <fruitbag> Xubuntu *
[17:18] <fruitbag> Not Kubuntu
[17:18] <babo> ali1234, QEMU PC emulator version 0.9.0,
[17:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Different desktops and software packages
[17:18] <babo> ali1234, I'm starting it from the console. I can't find any way to start it from X ...
[17:18] <babo> ali1234,  It doesn't appear in gnome
[17:19] <ali1234> babo: start a terminal in X, and then run it the same way
[17:19] <ali1234> babo: applications -> accessories -> terminal
[17:19] <abhi_> i find the touch pad on my laptop to be too sensitive how do i adjust it?
[17:19] <babo> ali1234, yeah - console == terminal right ?
[17:20] <aszwet1> hello i'm having problems with video playback, it plays fine but there is this strobing line about an inch down from  the top of the video.  i have a dell d800 with an nvidia geforce 4400 i've heard of fixes with an ati card does anybody else have this problem?
[17:20] <babo> abhi_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3994&highlight=touchpad
[17:20] <ali1234> babo: well, if it does, you are running it inside X windows?
[17:20] <babo> abhi_: also ... http://scottcollins.net/blog/2006/01/disable-touchpad-tap-in-kubuntubreezy.html
[17:21] <dury> ikonia: why not install that tar file
[17:21] <babo> ali1234, well I open a terminal in X and then I try to run it from there ..
[17:21] <ali1234> babo: ok so the answer is yes
[17:22] <fruitbag> I love Ubuntu
[17:22] <fruitbag> Great stuff
[17:22] <sandr-_> me too fruitbag :)
[17:22] <fruitbag> Quite arguably my favourite Linux distro
[17:22] <ikonia> dury: because it is outside of the ubuntu package manager
[17:22] <fruitbag> Ubuntu is a very green OS.
[17:22] <pestilence> is it not possible to do dual head in kde4?
[17:22] <ikonia> fruitbag: what ?
[17:22] <ikonia> fruitbag: a green OS ?
[17:22] <babo> ali1234, so if I start it from a terminal in X, that counts as running it in X ? What did you mean by running it in a console then ?
[17:23] <aszwet1> does anybody else have a glitch when it comes to video playback using an nvidia graphics card?
[17:23] <babo> what other way is there to run it ?
[17:23] <pestilence> oops, wrong channel
[17:23] <dury> I personally prefer Fedora or Debian
[17:23] <sandr-_> mine's silver OS :p
[17:23]  * babo kicks dury ...
[17:23] <babo> :-_
[17:23] <sburwood> hello everyone
[17:23] <babo> :-)
[17:23] <ali1234> babo: press ctrl-alt-f1 - that's what i meant by console. then press ctrl-alt-right arrow until you get back to X windows.
[17:23] <shameless_> ok, i have a bug in warzone 2100 where i can't load game saves, it crashes on load
[17:23] <ali1234> or is it just ctrl-right arrow
[17:24] <sburwood> 2 questions.  When I open a terminal in Gutsy, I get a white screen - no command line
[17:24] <ksbalaji> Hi! sorry to disturb - now, I have ubuntu gutsy installed. Now I want to use my ADSL MT882 - thru ISP - BSNL-India  for broadband connection. I tried pppoeconf.  It gave error: see your cable connections -or another pppoe is controlling your modem..-but the hardware works well in MSW... Where is the error? Please ... guide...
[17:24] <sburwood> second, how can I set up Atlantik on my computer locally (I don't have Internet)
[17:24] <shameless_> anyone else get that, or should i just reinstall and see what happens?
[17:25] <luksmann> hey guys - my laptop just won't shut down. the last command from the console is always Power Off.
[17:25] <dury> have to go
[17:25] <luksmann> then it just stays there and the laptop keeps running
[17:25] <dury> byeee
[17:26] <genii> luksmann: "Power Off" means to hit the off switch
[17:26] <luksmann> genii: any idea how I can get it to turn of automatically?
[17:27] <sburwood> help
[17:27] <genii> luksmann: Older laptop?
[17:27] <luksmann> not at all
[17:27] <zylche> 113 more what?
[17:27] <luksmann> genii: a noname core2duo 2.2 ghz, 2 gig of ram, ati x1600
[17:27] <babo> ali1234, err ... that didn't work out quite as well as I'd hoped ...
[17:27] <babo> ctrl-alt-right didn't get me out of console ...
[17:28] <sburwood> anyone wanna answer offline ... my e-mail is ch.mere.porteuse@gmail.com
[17:28] <genii> luksmann: Looks like acpi is not working properly. You could try as a kernel option acpi=force
[17:28] <sburwood> I need to go ...
[17:28] <sburwood> bye
[17:28] <Chris12349> I'm looking for a tutorial on how to get my ubuntu box  sitting on my lan, to be able to send mail.  IE: (echo testmessage | mail -s foo myEmailAddress@gmail.com)   Anyone know of one?
[17:28] <sburwood> and thanks in advance
[17:28] <ali1234> babo: ctrl-right and you have to push it about 5 or 6 times
[17:28] <babo> ali1234, ah
[17:28] <ali1234> babo: anyway...
[17:28] <luksmann> genii: okay I'll try that one! Hope it helps... thanks a lot!
[17:28] <genii> luksmann: Let me know how it goes, I'll be here mostly for another 4 hours or so
[17:28] <zylche> All XKCDers, reply!
[17:29] <ali1234> babo: SDL should be able to use other video drivers than directfb and i dont know why it is failing to do so. but you can use vnc mode instead and avoid sdl entirely
[17:29] <luksmann> genii: okay! thanks again1
[17:29] <kuun-lann> hello
[17:29] <babo> ali1234, so I'm trying to start qemu in X using the terminal ... but SDL won't initialize and qemu is trying to use the framebuffers ...
[17:29] <FoxD> Hi there - I'm new to Ubuntu and am trying to install it on a extra tower I have, but am having trouble getting it going.  I used Wubi to install it from my XP partition, and it looks to have installed correctly, but when I select Ubuntu from my boot options, it locks up.
[17:29] <ads> I'm using pidgin on Ubuntu/KDE, but pidgin has a "big" icon for the panel. Sometimes pidgin makes this a small icon like all the other icons in my panel, but i don't know, how to enforce this. Anyone an idea?
[17:29] <babo> ali1234, vnc ? isn't that the remote computing tool ?
[17:29] <ali1234> babo: yes
[17:29] <ali1234> babo: it will export the guest OS display as a vnc session
[17:30] <babo> ali1234, what should I use for vnc display ?
[17:30] <ali1234> babo: probably :1
[17:31] <kuun-lann> i've got a problem with Ubuntu 7.10. I have a Cmedia soundcard and Pnp audio device (integrated chipset). I have sound on totem or rythmbox but nothing on mplayer in command line or vlc or streaming video..And i want music on mplayer :S Who can help me please? I have tested lots of things that i found on google but nothing worked :S
[17:31] <babo> ali1234, k - it seems to be taking it's time ...
[17:31] <ali1234> babo: you wont get any display until you run a vnc client and connect
[17:31] <ali1234> babo: vncviewer :1
[17:32] <babo> ali1234, vncviewer: unable to open display ""
[17:32] <babo> vncviewer :1
[17:33] <babo> ali1234, nope. it won't connect there either ...
[17:33] <burpsmirk> can anyone suggest why my video play back is luminous? (Intel 945GM Express chipset, latest intel drivers)
[17:33] <ali1234> vncviewer localhost:1
[17:33] <ali1234> or just "vncviewer"
[17:33] <babo> ali1234, same issue :-(
[17:34] <ali1234> babo: are you running these programs as root or something like that?
[17:34] <babo> ali1234, which programs ? vnc ? no
[17:34] <ali1234> babo: anything
[17:34] <babo> ali1234, i don't run things as root unless i have to ... ( so no )
[17:35] <babo> ali1234, I tried opening vncviewer with sudo but still the same issue ...
[17:35] <burpsmirk> 1235 people in here and no suggestions?
[17:35] <ali1234> babo: what that error means is that you dont have permission to open windows on your desktop. it should not happen
[17:35] <FoxD> Sorry, I'm too new to Ubuntu and Linux in general to be of much use.
[17:36] <burpsmirk> Me too!
[17:36] <FoxD> Least you got it installed ^^
[17:36] <burpsmirk> lol
[17:36] <burpsmirk> 2nd time lucky
[17:36] <babo> ali1234, DISPLAY=
[17:36] <babo> in my env
[17:37] <ali1234> babo: dont mess with DISPLAY it is set automatically
[17:37] <babo> ali1234, i'll open vncviewer as root then...
[17:37] <ali1234> babo: it should be anyway. the fact that it isn;t is likely the cause of all your problems
[17:38] <tyler_2> hot swapable ide drive bay? I would like to know how to mount it after putting in a new drive?
[17:38] <babo> ali1234, same problem as root
[17:38] <ali1234> babo: of course, only the logged in user has permission to access the X server, even root does not, by default
[17:38] <tim167> i am trying to install ubuntu on a G4 Mac, i get a prompt like this : (initramfs) what should i do to intall ?
[17:39] <ali1234> babo: it can be forced but not without totally screwing up loads of things, so dont even try it, ok?
[17:39] <aszwet1_> can anyone help me with a video playbac glitch using nvidia graphics card?
[17:39] <brobostigon> tim167: this is a known problem, i have a mac too, i will find the details for you.
[17:39] <alfi> kann man VoicePro 11 mit Ubuntu ausüben?
[17:40] <ali1234> babo: try this all on one line: 'DISPLAY=:0 vncviewer localhost:1'
[17:40] <ali1234> (not as root)
[17:40] <Freakingme> so kde4 was released today, when could it possibly be expected in the ubuntu-stable repository?
[17:40] <babo> k
[17:40] <kuun-lann> i've got a problem with Ubuntu 7.10. I have a Cmedia soundcard and Pnp audio device (integrated chipset). I have sound on totem or rythmbox but nothing on mplayer in command line or vlc or streaming video..And i want music on mplayer :S Who can help me please? I have tested lots of things that i found on google but nothing worked :S
[17:41] <brobostigon> tim167: load ide_core, and then once it boots add ide_core to /etc/modules
[17:41] <babo> ali1234, cool - that seems to be working dude cheers :-)
[17:41] <ali1234> babo: ok - next try 'DISPLAY=:0 qemu c.img'
[17:42] <ali1234> and then try to figure out what you have done to mess up DISPLAY
[17:42] <tim167> brobostigon is load ide_core a command ? or is it modprobe ?
[17:42] <Odd-rationale> How do you get the cube to rotate with the scroll wheel? I had it before, I just can't seem to find the option in ccsm. Thanks!
[17:42] <aszwet1_> hello i'm having problems with video playback, it plays fine but there is this strobing line about an inch down from  the top of the video.  i have a dell d800 with an nvidia geforce 4400 i've heard of fixes with an ati card does anybody else have this problem?
[17:43] <babo> ali1234, cool that works too :-)
[17:43] <babo> thans
[17:43] <babo> ks
[17:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Odd-rationale: ctrl-alt   left mouse  move mouse is the standard way, let me see if I can set it to the wheel.
[17:44] <Odd-rationale> Jack_Sparrow: Yeah, I have that.
[17:44] <FoxD> I'm trying to get 7.04 installed - anyone able to give me some assistance?
[17:44] <ali1234> babo: DISPLAY is a very important variable that controls which display windows open on. if it is blank, then things like SDL will assume there is not X server running and try to fall back to framebuffer. DISPLAY should be set automatically unless you override it, which is almost always a bad idea
[17:44] <tim167> i'm trying to install ubuntu PPC, get this prompt (initramfs), i did modprobe ide_core, got no complaints so i guess it worked...how do i install now ?
[17:45] <babo> ali1234, I don't override it, but I've had problems with it before ...
[17:45] <babo> ali1234, I should probably set it in .bashrc ...
[17:45] <babo> :0 is the first tty right ?
[17:46] <denis> hi
[17:46] <ali1234> babo: no. :0 is the first X display. but you shouldn;t set it yourself. you should allow the X stuff to handle it for you
[17:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Odd-rationale: Under advanced
[17:46] <denis> alguien que hable español
[17:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Odd-rationale: actions.. rotate cube
[17:47] <ali1234> babo: that way things like X forwarding over ssh will actually work properly
[17:47] <Odd-rationale> Jack_Sparrow: Advanced? Are you looking at ccsm?
[17:48] <babo> ali1234, i only ever use ssh in the terminal. my server doesn't even have X installed ...
[17:48] <bingodeville> !es | denis
[17:48] <ubotu> denis: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Odd-rationale: yes .. not sure that is it but I think it is vlose
[17:48] <tim167> can anyone help install ubuntu PPC, got stuck at (initramfs) thanks
[17:49] <ali1234> babo: well, look at it this way. for everyone else who didnt mess with that variable, these problems dont occur...
[17:49] <Odd-rationale> Jack_Sparrow: What catagory in ccsm is "Advanced" found?
[17:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Odd-rationale: bottom left in the window
[17:50] <babo> ali1234, hmm I dunno about that. I've looked for other qemu users and I couldn't find any until i came across this one guy who had the exact same problem as i did ...
[17:50] <aszwet1_> hello i'm having problems with video playback, it plays fine but there is this strobing line about an inch down from  the top of the video.  i have a dell d800 with an nvidia geforce 4400 i've heard of fixes with an ati card does anybody else have this problem?
[17:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Odd-rationale: Advanced search
[17:50] <babo> ali1234, although DISPLAY being missing is abnormal I'll grant you ...
[17:51] <Odd-rationale> Jack_Sparrow: OK then the actions tab?
[17:52] <ksbalaji> can someone tell which IRC application (GUI) has a lot of tools inbuilt? like, viewing only some users, tool config etc..please
[17:52] <tim167> any help installing ubuntu PPC please ?
[17:53] <whabo> hello i need to run win xp virtually what do i need?
[17:53] <whabo> thx
[17:53] <Marshalz> Hi, how can if format hdd?
[17:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Odd-rationale: yes then actions and rotate cube tab
[17:54] <gil> spanish?
[17:54] <Marshalz> Hi, how can if format hdd?
[17:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Marshalz: gparted can do that
[17:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !es > gil
[17:55] <Odd-rationale> Jack_Sparrow: OK found that. How do I set it to the scroll wheel?
[17:55] <gil> hola como estas  jack sparrow
[17:55] <josh__> I just installed an audigy se and cant get more than one program to play a sound at one time, anyone know how to fix this?
[17:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Odd-rationale: Best to ask in #compiz  that is where I go for those questions..  I am in there now
[17:56] <Odd-rationale> Jack_Sparrow: OK. Thanks!
[17:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !sound josh__
[17:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sound josh__ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !sound > josh__
[17:57] <goodstarting> admin
[17:57] <gil> some body can help me to install java ?
[17:57] <ikonia> gil: open synaptic look for the java package you want and click install
[17:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Odd-rationale: wheel is button 3
[17:58] <gil> i was trying but nothing i downloaded grom java but i  am a new guy in ubuntu
[17:58] <Aeleon> oye gil, si necesitas ayuda en espanol, hay un canal para personas hablahispanas.
[17:58] <Aeleon> se llama #ubuntu-es
[17:58] <Odd-rationale> Jack_Sparrow: Yes, I know. But do I need to say scroll up/down?
[17:59] <ikonia> gil: open synaptic and use the search button to find "java" then makr it for install, then click "install"
[17:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Odd-rationale: no
[17:59] <Odd-rationale> Jack_Sparrow: Ok, I got it now, Thanks!
[17:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Aeleon:  try /j #Ubuntu-es
[17:59] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[18:00] <Aeleon> Jack_Sparrow, I was telling gil that he could join ubuntu-es.
[18:00] <Aeleon> because your !es tag did nothing.
[18:00] <Jack_Sparrow> sorry
[18:00] <Aeleon> Not a problem. :)
[18:00] <graphikeye> hi everyone
[18:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Aeleon: Thought they wer having trouble with the /j
[18:01] <graphikeye> i have kde 3.5, can i install 4.0 stable over it without having to uninstall 3.5?
[18:01] <Aeleon> Haha.
[18:01] <danilo> hello!!!!
[18:01] <ikonia> graphikeye thre is a thrad on the forum for this
[18:01] <ikonia> !kde4 | graphikeye
[18:01] <ubotu> graphikeye: KDE 4 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. - KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/
[18:01] <hamid11771> Hi all
[18:01] <danilo> help for my ubuntu
[18:01] <graphikeye> thanks a bunch :)
[18:01] <danilo> i'm italian
[18:02] <graphikeye> me too!
[18:02] <ikonia> !it | danilo
[18:02] <ubotu> danilo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[18:02] <danilo> ok
[18:02] <danilo> thank
[18:02] <risjh> hi, how do i resize my ntfs partition using gparted? it is giving me an error saying i need to add the option --bad-sectors when using the command ntfsresize. how do i do it?
[18:02] <Patogen> What is a good software to recovery files from fat32 disks?
[18:02] <phaidros> hi, after some acpi tweaking I got suspend running. but hibernation just comes back to the locked screen and does not proceed to hibernate. where could I find out about what happens there? (dmesg doesn't say it)
[18:02] <ikonia> risjh: boot into windows and run chkdisk and defrag a few times
[18:03] <risjh> ikonia: i did all that
[18:03] <ikonia> Patogen: you can't
[18:03] <ikonia> risjh: I'd do it again
[18:03] <risjh> ikonia: i did chkdsk /f /r a few times too
[18:03] <Patogen> ikonia: Ehm are you sure?
[18:03] <risjh> ikonia: i have done defrag and ckhdsk about 3 times now
[18:03] <risjh> you think i should do it more times?
[18:03] <ikonia> Patogen yes, there is no journaling
[18:04] <Patogen> ikonia: But there are windows softwares that can recover files?
[18:04] <viking> in you all's experience what is the best ubuntu compatible firewall?
[18:04] <ikonia> Patogen nothing in ubuntu then
[18:04] <ikonia> viking iptables
[18:04] <risjh> ikonia: ?
[18:04] <Patogen> hmm ok
[18:04] <viking> thanks ikonia
[18:04] <ikonia> risjh what
[18:04] <risjh> ikonia: i  already did chkdsk and defrag about 3 times, should i do it more?
[18:05] <phaidros> hibernate.log also doensn't say anything. it just comes back :/
[18:05] <ikonia> risjh: your using gparted yes ?
[18:05] <risjh> ikonia: yes
[18:05] <ikonia> risjh if it's complaining about the --bad-sectors flag your disk may be damaged or the file system is damaged
[18:05] <K_Dallas> Morning guys! Q: Is there a way to resolve hibernation issues with toshiba-satellite laptopts in 7.10? Thanks (problem is that mine doesnt go to hibernation)
[18:05] <risjh> ikonia: how do i fix?
[18:06] <ikonia> risjh: well if you have hardware errors on yhour disk, it's broke, the file ssytem you can fix with defrag and check disk or ask the windows guru's in ##windows how to verify your disks integrity
[18:06] <gil> hi somebody in spanish?
[18:06] <figginator> Hello, does ubuntu server 6.06 need to run a firewall or is it secure by its self? I understand that I should turn off and remove services/programs I'm not using but running a standard lamp install leave me vulnerable
[18:06] <ikonia> !es | gil
[18:06] <ubotu> gil: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:07] <risjh> ikonia: if i have hardware errors how come things work fine?
[18:07] <ikonia> figginator: thats your call
[18:07] <ikonia> risjh: you could just have bad sectors
[18:07] <risjh> ikonia: oh, how to fix them?
[18:07] <ikonia> risjh: you can't
[18:07] <ikonia> risjh: if the disk is damaged, the disk is damaged
[18:07] <Tilllinux> hm, how to "install" gscore? it seems to be written in ruby O_o?
[18:07] <risjh> ikonia: :(
[18:07] <risjh> ikonia: no way i can resize it?
[18:07] <gil> gracias
[18:07] <phaidros> ok: fix is: edit /etc/uswsusp.conf to the according swap partition ..
[18:08] <gnurph69> Strange problem:  I try to start Firefox, and it tells me that Firefox is already running.  I alt-tab, and the only application I see is Xchat; if I try to run something through Wine, nothing displays, but the application is clearly running.  Anybody got any ideas on what might be wrong?
[18:08] <ikonia> risjh: I didn't say that
[18:08] <ikonia> risjh: please listen
[18:08] <phaidros> gnurph69: killall firefox-bin
[18:08] <Tilllinux> gnurph69: pkill firefox-bin
[18:08] <Tilllinux> ^^
[18:08] <phaidros> Tilllinux: whats pkill ?
[18:08] <phaidros> just know skill from openbsd
[18:08] <Tilllinux> process kill...
[18:08] <figginator> Ikonia: what is recommended? I know it has IP table installed by default but is it setup to do a blanked protection and only open ports services I'm running or is it empty by default?
[18:08] <ikonia> risjh: ubuntu is complaining that it wants to use the --bad-sectors option, this is noramlly because either a.) the disk has errors b.) the file system has errors the guys in ##windows can explain how to verify your hard disk physical state and file system state
[18:09] <ikonia> figginator: it's disabled by default
[18:09] <tim167> i get GRUB error 18, what can i do ?
[18:09] <gnurph69> I can kill the process - but if I restart firefox, I have the same problem.  it's as if firefox (and other apps) just can't display
[18:09] <risjh> ikonia: oh k
[18:09] <risjh> ikonia: can i somehow use the --bad-sectors option and parition?
[18:09] <figginator> is iptables the best way to protect my self or should I run something else like shorewall through webmin?
[18:09] <cal-mac> guys when i plug in my external hard drive to my usb port it issues a ton of error 110 messages to dmesg and refuses to work.. any ideas?  i got it working for a while by adding in noacpi to the boot command line, but it eventually crashed again
[18:10] <kbrosnan> gnurph69: also there may be a "lock" and ".parentlock" file in your profile folder ~/.mozilla/firefox/...
[18:11] <Kuwanger> Does anyone here know of an irc channel/forum for tftpd32?  The one off Jounin's site isn't working.
[18:11] <gnurph69> okay, now Firefox works...
[18:12] <gnurph69> but my other applications have the same problem.
[18:12] <gnurph69> any similar suggestions?  I'm running uTorrent in Wine.
[18:12] <figginator> ikania: Is iptables the best way to protect my self or should I run something else like shorewall through webmin?
[18:12] <bwlang> all of a sudden my keyboard seems to have lost all modifiers... shift o does not cause a capital o to be printed... ctrl s does not cause  a save event... anybody seen this before?
[18:13] <Tilllinux> another question: I recently *tried* to install suse, but that didn't work and instead killed all my mbrs; I recreated them with supergrubdisk (and i also had to change the ermm ntfs header(? cylinders?))
[18:13] <Pici> Tilllinux: Whats the question there?
[18:14] <Tilllinux> just a second ^^
[18:14] <Tilllinux> my problem is following: i had to add my external to fstab (/dev/sdb1 /media/TILLEX ntfs-3g defaults,locale=de_DE.UTF-8 0 0) as ubuntu is installed onto the same external device
[18:14] <Tilllinux> (so it is indeed static)
[18:14] <Tilllinux> however, everytime I plug in an usb device, just nothing happens
[18:15] <Pici> Tilllinux: What do you mean 'static'?
[18:15] <heatmzzr> DVD playback in ubuntu sucks. I still cant get ti to work.
[18:15] <Tilllinux> I would not have put it in fstab, if it weren't "static"
[18:15] <graphikeye> heatmzzr: have your tried VLC?
[18:16] <heatmzzr> cant get any program to work, installed libdvdcss2 but all it will play is the previews
[18:16] <Tilllinux> I'm wondering, why there is an entry in mtab (/dev/sda1 /media/TILLEX fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,blksize=4096 0 0) which wasn't there before I think ^^
[18:16] <rinaldi_> hi all. im getting "cannot mount volume" when trying to access my windows hard drive, whats going wrong?
[18:16] <wesw02> My roommate and I are having some issues trying to install the nvidia drivers, does anyone know of any documentation relating to installing the nvidia drivers
[18:17] <wesw02> I googled it but all the articles were lacking info
[18:17] <Tilllinux> rinaldi_: you probably didn't unmount windows correctly (like, just pressing the power button while booting ;D)
[18:18] <graphikeye> rinaldi: what windows version (Vista or XP)?
[18:19] <commiebob> DCC SEND Fail
[18:19] <Pici> !traffic
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[18:19] <Szeraax> what is a really good wireless manager? kwireless sucks...
[18:20] <dark_> LOAD
[18:21] <Szeraax> load?
[18:21] <dark_> meh sorry trying a script out.. not working
[18:21] <Szeraax> lol
[18:21] <Szeraax> ah
[18:21] <bazhang> Szeraax: network-manager not doing it for you?
[18:22] <Szeraax> bazhang: will go check it out
[18:22] <shishirm1> hi
[18:22] <Pici> dark_: Please don't test your scripts in this channel.
[18:22] <UltraNav> Szeraax: try http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[18:22] <shishirm1> how to schedule a shutdown??
[18:22] <shishirm1> on gutsy
[18:22] <Szeraax> dark_: and if you do, make sure they dont include halt...
[18:23] <kurthy> hi all
[18:23] <shishirm1> hi can anyone tell me how to schedule a shutdown?
[18:23] <shishirm1> in ubuntu?
[18:23] <dark_> it a script to make me auto join another channel.. ive never used xchat before so im guessing its the wrong type of script
[18:23] <Szeraax> shutdown command?
[18:23] <PriceChild> shishirm1, man shutdown
[18:23] <Xplicit> arg stupid net error, did i say "how can i find whats causing my entire system to die (even kernel magic fails), when i try and make a file system or a journal on my truecrypt container on an ntfs partition" before i droped? any answers?
[18:25] <bazhang> http://www.ss64.com/bash/shutdown.html shishirm1
[18:25] <Micc> how do I initiate the screen saver without waiting and not in preview mode?
[18:25] <kurthy> I downloaded a GDM theme
[18:26] <bazhang> Micc: as in a hot corner?
[18:26] <Micc> yeah, that would work
[18:26] <kurthy> but i don t know how can i copy to gdm theme folder,because it is locket
[18:26] <kurthy> d
[18:26] <shishirm1> bazhang: i used shutdown -P 90
[18:26] <shishirm1> it should work right/
[18:26] <Azzmodan> shishirm1, you can schedule a command with "at"
[18:26] <bazhang> shishirm1: what did that bash man shutdown page say?
[18:26] <ArthurArchnix> Micc: http://www.codejacked.com/launch-a-privacy-screen-saver-in-gnome/
[18:27] <shishirm1> welll it says something else
[18:27] <kurthy> please help me
[18:27] <shishirm1> but i used unix commands
[18:27] <testNode> whjat is a program I can use to wipe a disk?
[18:27] <shishirm1> i mean thats the way i used to do it in unix
[18:27] <shishirm1> will it work?
[18:27] <ndube> Hello, How would I look up the status of a RAID resync process
[18:27] <ArthurArchnix> testNode: Dban http://dban.sourceforge.net/
[18:27] <Pici> shishirm1: why not read the manpage?
[18:27] <shishirm1> i read has diff options!!
[18:28] <testNode> ArthurArchnix:  looks like a grat program but it wount boot on my d830  / is there somthing I can run under unbuntu?
[18:28] <bazhang> shutdown -h 20:00 shishirm1
[18:28] <shishirm1> ok
[18:28] <sebastian> hello
[18:28] <ArthurArchnix> testNode: You want to erase free space on your existing harddrive, or erase and entire harddrive?
[18:28] <kab> hey does anyone have any experience setting up pptpd servers?
[18:28] <bazhang> shishirm1: for 8 pm obviously :} may not be the time you want
[18:29] <sebastian> halihalo
[18:29] <ArthurArchnix> !hello | sebastian
[18:29] <ubotu> sebastian: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[18:29] <kab> hey does anyone have any experience setting up pptpd servers?
[18:29] <testNode> ArthurArchnix:  erase the whole disk and do the overwrite like dban does
[18:29] <Pici> !repeat | kab
[18:29] <ubotu> kab: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[18:29] <sebastian> wer bist du
[18:29] <ndube> !spam | kab
[18:29] <ubotu> kab: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubotu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense...
[18:29] <shishirm1> hey i used shutdown --help
[18:29] <telexicon> Ubuntu 7.10 fails to boot off of a SCSI cdrom, any recommendations for another live distro I can try? (I need to do some disk stuff)
[18:29] <kab> lol
[18:29] <josh__> after reading the info from tho bot I still have no luck. My audigy can't play two sounds at once. Can anyone help me with this?
[18:29] <testNode> ArthurArchnix:  so I was going to boot to cd on ubuntu and then run some progam if i can find one
[18:29] <Xplicit> how can i find whats causing my entire system to die (even kernel magic fails), when i try and make a file system or a journal on my truecrypt container on an ntfs partition
[18:29] <ArthurArchnix> testNode: Do you have a cd rom, or are you planning on doing this from a floppy disk or over the network?
[18:29] <shishirm1> i think it will shutdown by what i have given
[18:30] <shishirm1> lets see
[18:30] <shishirm1> ok bye
[18:30] <shishirm1> thanks
[18:30] <ArthurArchnix> testNode: Ah.. I understand. Well, you can boot the live cd, mount the hard-drive, then use dd and some random switch.
[18:30] <testNode> ArthurArchnix:  from a cd
[18:30] <testNode> dd?
[18:31] <ArthurArchnix> testNode: Looking for a link... can you boot the live and mount the disk?
[18:31] <testNode> ArthurArchnix:  yes I can boot from cd and mount the disk
[18:32] <Pici> ArthurArchnix: You cant use dd or gparted or whatever else you want to use while the disk is mounted.
[18:32] <Pici> testNode: gparted can format iirc.
[18:32] <Jadd76> Hi people, on gnome-look.org I can choose between GTK 1.x and GTK 2.x. Which one does Ubuntu use?
[18:33] <testNode> Pici:  yes but gparted does not do overwrite with random bits and the miilitary wipe.... what will do that?
[18:33] <ArthurArchnix> testNode: Ok.. go here and look at number 3. It tells you how to fill the disk with random data. There's a quick way and a slow way. More and less secure. For even more control and better options you can use dban. http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/howto-disk-encryption-with-dm-crypt-luks-and-debian
[18:35] <testNode> ArthurArchnix:  thanks
[18:36] <dark_> Jadd76: Ubuntu will use both gtk 1 and 2 fine i think
[18:37] <ArthurArchnix> My friend gave me a damaged dvd that he can't read under windows. No file will copy. I'm trying to find some good recovery programs for damaged cd/dvd's. Any recommendations?
[18:37] <Bakefy> I am trying to install linux on a desktop and its not even able to boot the live CD.
[18:37] <Szeraax> hey, anyone using kde 4? know about forms in firefox being black and how to change them?
[18:37] <ArthurArchnix> Bakefy: Can you boot other cd's or dvd's?
[18:37] <Clearzen> ArthurArchnix: Can you mount the disk in ubuntu or does it give you I/O errors?
[18:37] <Szeraax> Bakefy: be more descriptive, what part fails
[18:37] <kurthy_> hello
[18:37] <Szeraax> hi
[18:37] <bazhang> Bakefy: the alternate cd will sometimes work when the livecd chokes; what are your system specs, esp ram and cpu
[18:38] <Pensador> Hello everybody, UbuntuForums is down at the moment, does anybody know what is happening?
[18:38] <ArthurArchnix> Clearzen: It mounts without problem. I get file errors when I try and copy the files over. Only about 5% of the pictures are read.
[18:38] <Bakefy> arthurArchnix, I have booted, even installed linux on this computer before, I added two 500 GB hard drives, now it fails..
[18:38] <tim167> how does one "move your boot partition to the front" ? thanks
[18:38] <kurthy_> this isnt hungarian chat room?
[18:38] <Clearzen> ArthurArchnix: try using the dd command to image the entire disk and go from there
[18:38] <Jadd76> dark_: thanks
[18:38] <ArthurArchnix> Clearzen.. will manpage that. Thanks for the recommendation.
[18:38] <Pici> Pensador: They seem to be working from here.
[18:39] <Clearzen> ArthurArchnix: dd if=/path/to/dvd of=/output/path
[18:39] <Bakefy> baxhang, 1.1 Ghrz AMD 512 Ram, 16 MB graphics, trying to install server on an older BIOS. no luck
[18:39] <ArthurArchnix> Clearzen: Then I can mount the iso and work on that. Good idea.
[18:39] <Bakefy> bazhang *, 1.1 Ghrz AMD 512 Ram, 16 MB graphics, trying to install server on an older BIOS. no luck
[18:39] <Pensador> Pici: Thanks... I'm refreshing the page over and over and nothing. All other websites I usually use are working
[18:40] <bazhang> Bakefy: where does it fail?
[18:40] <ArthurArchnix> Bakefy... when you added those discs you may have switched around some of your cables. Have you confirmed that your bios is set to boot from the cd rom first?
[18:40] <riaal> how can I change the default group of a user?
[18:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Bakefy: those old bios are supporting those large drives?
[18:40] <riaal> adduser?
[18:40] <kuun-lann> i've got a problem with Ubuntu 7.10. I have a Cmedia soundcard and Pnp audio device (integrated chipset). I have sound on totem or rythmbox but nothing on mplayer in command line or vlc or streaming video..And i want music on mplayer :S Who can help me please? I have tested lots of things that i found on google but nothing worked :S
[18:41] <bazhang> useradd for a new user account riaal
[18:42] <Bakefy> bazhang, I can install easily, yes, it does boot the live cd, just fails to make it to the gui arthurARchnix, It usually fails after i install it (with no problems) first it failed on Grub 18 error.
[18:42] <bazhang> usermod would modify the user's account
[18:42] <Bakefy> bazhang, then I created a small /boot partion, and it got past that error.
[18:43] <Bakefy> bazhang, now it fails  just after grup.
[18:43] <Azzmodan> Is there a "kubuntu-desktop" like package for kde4?
[18:43] <bazhang> Bakefy: after you added the hdd's?
[18:43] <bazhang> kde4-core iirc Azzmodan
[18:43] <Clearzen> Bakefy: Error 18 means your bios doesn't support a cylinder size that large (eg your hard drive is to large for the bios) have you tryed updated your bios?
[18:43] <Bakefy> bazhang, yes, it had a 40 GB in there before, worked fine.
[18:44] <Micc> Thanks, ArthurArchnix
[18:44] <bazhang> Bakefy: the bios allows for those drives? Jack_Sparrow suggested that earlier..
[18:44] <Bakefy> clearzen, yeah, I read that too... the last updated I found for my bios is 2001... I think I am up to date... Ill check real quick though
[18:45] <Azzmodan> bazhang, there's a gnome-core and a kde4base, but they're just the gnome/kde base packages. I was interrested in a desktop enviroment like ubuntu-desktop (default ubuntu install) and kubuntu-desktop and such
[18:45] <riaal> How can I change the default group for a user?
[18:45] <ArthurArchnix> Micc: Np
[18:45] <Bakefy> bazhang, Jack_Sparrow, it sees the drives, when it installs it allows me to partition them... it lets me attempt to boot off them... I dont know anything past that.
[18:45] <Azzmodan> riaal, usermod?
[18:45] <bazhang> Azzmodan: well the folks in #kubuntu say that kde4-core will pull in the other packages--best make sure with them :}
[18:46] <Azzmodan> bazhang, yeah it'll pull in kde4 proper, but I want an "ubuntu" enviroment instead of a plain kde4 if you know what I mean
[18:47] <Azzmodan> But I'll check #kubuntu :)
[18:47] <bazhang> Azzmodan: best to be safe ;}
[18:47] <Aeleon> i hope i'm not being silly when I ask this, but can I "install openvpn" without worrying about downloading stuff? I'm SSH'ed into my ubuntu box and have never installed things from the commandline.
[18:47] <dark_> riaal: yeah do a man usermod and have a look.. you'll have to do something with the -G/g switch
[18:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Bakefy:  I still suspect that is the problem...
[18:48] <Azzmodan> Aeleon, apt-get install openvpn
[18:48] <Aeleon> hooray, thank you!
[18:48] <Azzmodan> Aeleon, that'll download and install everything you need
[18:48] <bazhang> http://www.ss64.com/bash/usermod.html riaal
[18:48]  * Aeleon HUGS YOUU~
[18:48] <Bakefy> Jack_Sparrow, it would make some since.  do I have any way of testing this?
[18:48] <Azzmodan> Aeleon, you might need to use "sudo apt-get install openvpn" if you're not logged in as root
[18:49] <Aeleon> Right, I figured. :D
[18:49] <ArthurArchnix> Bakefy:  You have two 500GB disks not setup in a raid format?
[18:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Bakefy: I am busy with tother things, there are some tools you can get from the drive mfg that may help...  they make the drive appear to have 1024 cyl max etc
[18:50] <Bakefy> arthurarchnix, right no raid for this PC.
[18:50] <Jack_Sparrow> ArthurArchnix: Good point to check
[18:50] <rinaldi_> Tilllinux: you answered earlier to the mount problems, yes it was that problem but i can't boot windows, used the force command in terminal and worked. however my friend over the phone is having the same problem but is using the live cd to backup his documents. however when he uses sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/disk -o force he gets an error " failed to write lock"
[18:51] <stothepizzle> hello!
[18:51] <jaggy> hi all
[18:51] <ArthurArchnix> Bakefy: I'm not sure how you're trying to partion the disks, but have you tried unplugging one disk and installing with only one 500GB disk plugged in?
[18:51] <linduxed> o/
[18:52] <jaggy> anyone can help me ? i want to make my right mouse click look like this : http://news.softpedia.com/images/reviews/large/nubuntu-large_028.png
[18:52] <stothepizzle> how can i install kde 4 in kubuntu... its just come out n i really want it
[18:52] <Bakefy> ArthurArchnix, I have not tried that.  but I just find it strange that I can't even get the thing to go into Live mode, when it used to... it almost makes it, it just fails then stays at command prompt
[18:52] <rinaldi_> looks like tillinux is gone anyone have any ideas about by message above at 18:50:53?
[18:53] <VanDyke> hello all
[18:53] <ArthurArchnix> Bakefy: Sorry... I misunderstood the problem. I thought you could install the system then it failed to boot.
[18:53] <Assid> heya
[18:53] <Assid> i have an issue with gnome-rdp
[18:53] <VanDyke> I got an interesting scenario I need some light-shed
[18:54] <stothepizzle> how can i install kde 4 in ubuntu?
[18:54] <jaggy> don't ask to ask van dyke , just ask
[18:54] <Jack_Sparrow> stothepizzle: You will have better luck in #Kubuntu or #KDE
[18:54] <ArthurArchnix> Bakefy: There's a few things that cause most install problems... 1. Check the cd for errors rather than boot, 2. Check memory for errors, rather than boot. 3. If both those work, try the alternate scd.
[18:54] <stothepizzle> kk
[18:54] <Bakefy> ArthurArchnix, If I do a text install, it will go through perfectly
[18:54] <stothepizzle> /leave
[18:54] <Assid> "error during the connection to database"
[18:54] <Assid> i get that when trying to start gnome-rdp
[18:55] <riaal> I can't get usermod to change the default group with usermod -g user group
[18:55] <VanDyke> I've got ubuntu on a pendrive, need to boot it, but usb boot is not an option
[18:55] <jaggy> anyone has an idea hos i would have to do it ? (  anyone can help me ? i want to make my right mouse click look like this : http://news.softpedia.com/images/reviews/large/nubuntu-large_028.png )
[18:55] <riaal> I have added the user to the group with adduser -g user group
[18:55] <VanDyke> cd boot is also not an option
[18:55] <VanDyke> but I have a floppy disk
[18:55] <rich__> im running ubuntu on my PDA, does anyone know how to hook it up to a network?
[18:55] <viking> what's a good linux video recorder?
[18:55] <Bakefy> i find it strange that my BIOS version is newer than any BIOS avaliabe to install
[18:55] <Pici> jaggy: Thats fluxbox, not gnome.
[18:56] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[18:56] <bazhang> viking: for recording the desktop or what
[18:56] <jaggy> Pici t
[18:56] <EvaLuaTe> how to see most recent programs that were installed or upgraded please ?
[18:56] <VanDyke> is there a disk image available that will boot from USB even though the bios doesn't support it?
[18:56] <viking> bazhang: yes... I wish to record a video of my desktop cube with World of Warcraft on one side to show you cna play wow in linux
[18:56] <Assid> err, can someone PLEASE help me with this
[18:56] <LogicalDash> Has anyone gotten Miro 1.1 working yet?
[18:56] <Assid> gnome-rdp gives an error : "error during the connection to database"
[18:57] <Daviey> viking: i'd joing #ubuntu-screencasts and speak wth them
[18:57] <viking> Thanks for the advice Daviey
[18:57] <bazhang> !info recordmydesktop | viking
[18:57] <ubotu> viking: recordmydesktop: Captures audio-video data of a linux desktop session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.4-1 (gutsy), package size 41 kB, installed size 124 kB
[18:57] <viking> Thanks bazhang :)
[18:58] <Chinaski1> hello
[18:58] <bazhang> viking: no worries :}
[18:58] <LOLADSS> hi
[18:58] <rinaldi_> i get an error "failed to write lock" when trying to mount a drive using the live cd. sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hdb1 /media/Bree -o force is what i used as windows was not shut down properly
[18:58] <LOLADSS> windows -.-'' ....
[18:58] <keit1> urgent help required here!  I've just connected a NAS for the first time ever to my router and can't see it in ubuntu.  HOw do I get stuff onto it????
[18:59] <keit1> do i have to ftp (surely not!)
[18:59] <genii> keit1: What IP is it on?
[18:59] <Chinaski1> i experience slow file copy with my ubuntu 7.10 laptop as i copy files from one partition to another and to an external usb device. any suggestions?
[19:00] <yahont> keit1: what kinf of nas?
[19:00] <yahont> also try connect over http to its ip address
[19:00] <Nibblyn> HI! Someone using Ekiga? Is there another more appropriate channel to ask?
[19:00] <keit1> standard nas drive we use at work for a sonos unit
[19:00] <Assid> can someone help me with this: gnome-rdp gives an error : "error during the connection to database"
[19:00] <keit1> presume it's on the same ip as my xobx from which i stole the ethernet cable!
[19:01] <genii> keit1: Most of them these days are embedded linux boxes running samba. WD, etc as example. So if you use an smb client and go to the ip should work
[19:01] <keit1> its buffalo
[19:01] <keit1> hfs file system i think too (is this ok?)
[19:01] <keit1> it works with sonos home wifi hifi system
[19:01] <keit1> (that uses linux for os too)
[19:02] <Pici> keit1: Thats not how dhcp works, its probably not on the same IP as the last device connected to that port.
[19:02] <keit1> do I NEED samba?!
[19:02] <genii> keit1: I'm not familiar with that particular model. It is mac oriented? (hfs filesystem)
[19:02] <runa> hi can sb help me with sonypi im desperate
[19:02] <keit1> how do I check
[19:02] <Pici> keit1: This isnt really even an Ubuntu question at this point.
[19:02] <genii> Pici: Good point actually
[19:02] <keit1> I need Ubuntu to connect to this drive
[19:02] <keit1> i use ubuntu and only ubuntu
[19:02] <bazhang> heh
[19:03] <darkkith> is there a way to run vmware workstation in tandem with vmware-server in ubuntu ?
[19:03] <keit1> if i go get it and connect via usb i can make this work though wtf is the point of a nas drive in that case?! lol
[19:03] <genii> keit1: I think you need to look up the docs on your nas unit first to see what kind of access it supports... samba, nfs, iscssi   or so on
[19:03] <keit1> it is hfs I think
[19:03] <bazhang> runa: could you be more precise? sb?
[19:03] <keit1> I don't have them
[19:03] <keit1> this is a drive from work I'm borrowing to put music on
[19:03] <XLV> keit1, system>administration>shared folders .. it will prompt to install samba and nfs, if they arent installed
[19:04] <keit1> would like to know how to get it working thats all
[19:04] <keit1> XLV: ty ;)
[19:04] <genii> keit1: Please read what I said above. How can we tell you what way to access the drive if you can't tell us if it uses samba, or nfs, or so on?
[19:04] <XLV> keit1, then you need to set it up..
[19:04] <keit1> does hfs work by default in ubuntu?
[19:04] <runa> i dont know how to make work sonypi
[19:04] <Pici> keit1: We dont know, you need to figure out what it works/supports etc before we can help you, and then its only limited to getting it setup in Ubuntu.
[19:04] <XLV> !samba | keit1
[19:04] <ubotu> keit1: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[19:04] <Kl4m> What does it mean to put largefile instead of standard when setting up a ext3 fs during alternate setup?
[19:04] <tweaK_> anyone that can rekommend a player for .mp3 files?
[19:04] <XLV> !nfs | keit1
[19:04] <ubotu> keit1: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[19:05]  * genii makes XLV's next coffee a decaf
[19:05] <keit1> genii: HFS
[19:05] <genii> XLV:  ;)
[19:05] <Pici> keit1: Ask in ##hardware if you have any questions *not related to mounting it in ubuntu*
[19:05] <rinaldi_> i get "cannot mount volume " when trying to access my windows hard drive using the live cd. i can't shut down windows properly because it wont load in the first place. any ideas?
[19:05] <bazhang> runa: what is sonypi? is that a notebook computer? are you trying to install ubuntu on a notebook?
[19:05] <keit1> thanks guys, I know I'm not much help as I'm in the dark myself to alot of this
[19:05] <keit1> your help is much appreciated
[19:05] <keit1> ok
[19:05] <XLV> genii, hyperspooning... as hyperactive?
[19:06] <genii> keit1: hfs is not a remote access protocol but a filesystem type
[19:06] <genii> XLV: I'll need to get back to you on that one
[19:06] <runa> sonypi is the driver for the sony laptops for the fn keys(to change brightnes for eg.);i have it on my compiuter because when i do "modprob sonypi " it is ok; i dont know how to
[19:06] <warcaptain> are there any nice sites out there that focus on software that can be used to customize ubuntu
[19:07] <keit1> genii: right. doubt its samba
[19:07] <tj_> re
[19:07] <Laney> Should a partition appear in /dev/disk/by-uuid as soon as I've created it? Because I just made one and it's not showing up... How can I force it to refresh?
[19:07] <tj_> j'vous dis pas :/
[19:07] <Pici> !fr | tj_
[19:07] <ubotu> tj_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[19:07] <warcaptain> not just new software to put on but like.. cool visual effects.. application launchers etc
[19:07] <tj_> lol
[19:07] <tj_> whoups sorry ^_^!
[19:07] <Pici> !thems | warcaptain
[19:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thems - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:07] <Pici> !themes | warcaptain
[19:07] <Daviey> !nmap | keit1
[19:07] <XLV> keit1, actually most if not all use samba by default, maybe they have nfs and appletalk also
[19:07] <ubotu> warcaptain: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[19:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nmap - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:07] <bazhang> runa: sonypi was installed from where? I dont see it in the ubuntu repositories
[19:08] <glm1> so when i boot, i need to edit grub to read hd0,0 instead of hd2,0 which it defaults to.  where can i edit that - somewhere in /boot?
[19:08] <Daviey> keit1: look up samba - pretty good at telling you what services are running
[19:08] <FactTech> Question: Since I switched out my audio card, only one app at a time can play a sound. Anyone know what would cause this?
[19:08] <tj_> Pici, french are quickly spotted here :o
[19:08] <Daviey> keit1: nmap rather...  nmap -v -A IP_ADRESS
[19:08] <keit1> thank you guys!!
[19:08] <Assid> can someone help me with this: gnome-rdp gives an error : "error during the connection to database"
[19:08] <Pici> keit1: We can't help you guess what your device supports. I suggest you look online for that model and find its documentation.
[19:08] <runa> i think is kernel module
[19:08] <viking> I have recordMyDesktop installed and it works fine. Just need to know what button command do I use to stop recording once I start? Anyone know?
[19:08] <Assid> this happened ever since i did some update
[19:09] <keit1> ok will do
[19:09] <XLV> keit1, and most have some internal web server, in which you log in and set it up
[19:09] <keit1> right
[19:09] <bazhang> runa: that does not really answer my question though--installed from where? should I google it?
[19:09] <SpamInaCan> how do i install compiz fusion on my 7.04 install, (please do not say upgrade to 7.10 because if i do my computer will BREAK)
[19:09] <Pici> !compiz | SpamInaCan please read
[19:09] <ubotu> SpamInaCan please read: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[19:09] <bazhang> SpamInaCan: what the factoid?
[19:09] <bazhang> oops
[19:10] <viking> is it in Synaptic SpamInaCan? Do a search in there for Compiz
[19:10] <bazhang> want *
[19:10] <SpamInaCan> compiz is there but its not fusionized lol
[19:10] <keit1> well i might leave this till I get my own NAS with documentation adn the like
[19:10] <FactTech> Question: What is the easiest way to purge all sound-related modules and rebuild them?
[19:10] <viking> bazhang: do you know right off hand how I get recordMyDesktop to stop recording once I am done with my video?
[19:10] <Micksa> so um, anyone know what this means?:
[19:10] <Micksa> ** (gnome-mount:22404): WARNING **: Mount failed for /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/volume_uuid_BC0F_A3BF\norg.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod : Method \"Mount\" with signature \"ssas\" on interface \"org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume\" doesn\'t exist
[19:10] <Meronik> is Ubuntu based on Debian?
[19:11] <keit1> still emlightening stuff.  I would continues with my quest but I've run out of space for samba as i'm running this off a flashpen install.... DOH
[19:11] <Assid> yes
[19:11] <keit1> yes it is based on deb
[19:11] <bingodeville> meronik: yes
[19:11] <Meronik> and what makes it different from Debian?
[19:11] <bazhang> viking: in kde and never used it so no idea sorry
[19:11] <Assid> keit1: care to help me with this bug?
[19:11] <Assid> gnome-rdp gives an error : "error during the connection to database"
[19:12] <bazhang> Meronik: there are tons of web pages comparing the two--ubuntu is more cutting edge though
[19:12] <keit1> Assid: not gonna be much help I'm afraid
[19:12] <viking> np bazhang. Just thought I would ask. What is that ubuntu channel that has the video chat going on? #ubuntu-screencasts or something like that?
[19:12] <Assid> anyone? anyone at all ?
[19:12] <Meronik> define: cutting edge
[19:12] <Pici> !debian | Meronik
[19:12] <ubotu> Meronik: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[19:12] <bazhang> viking: that seems to be the right one; not sure though
[19:12] <MrObvious> Morning. Does apt-get seem slow to anyone this morning?
[19:12] <viking> bazhang: k, will try. Thanks again.
[19:12] <MrObvious> I'm downloading at only 10% of the speed available.
[19:12] <tim167> ubuntu text installer claims to see SCSI drives, but in reality they are just plain IDE's, how come ?
[19:13] <bazhang> viking: no worries :}
[19:13] <bazhang> MrObvious: might be your mirror--that does happen to me sometimes as well
[19:13] <MrObvious> I know it's not my connection because I just downloaded manually the NVidia drivers at full speed.
[19:13] <Hoxzer> :)
[19:13] <MrObvious> bazhang: What's the site to update my sources so I can get a better mirror so it's faster?
[19:14] <MrObvious> !sources
[19:14] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[19:14] <bazhang> !easysource
[19:14] <MrObvious> !easysource
[19:14] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[19:14] <bazhang> MrObvious: you seem to know :}
[19:14] <ajitam> hi I'm using firestart how can I open ports from terminal ?
[19:14] <MrObvious> I need the NVidia drivers because I just bought a new laptop and it's stuck at 800x600 with a native 1900x1200 res. Yikes!
[19:14] <whabo> okay i have a windows XP CD ..and i need it on a virtual machine .. so i got qemu and installed all the graphical interfaces for it for easier use ... but when i place my CD and click  start .... IT DOESNT boot .. and gives me an error .... what am i doing wrong??????
[19:14] <DRebellion> !firestart | ajitam
[19:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firestart - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:14] <DRebellion> whabo: what error?
[19:15] <jwd> anyone use asterisk or setup a voip system
[19:15] <whabo> Drbrllion ... unbootable device !!!
[19:15] <DRebellion> !ask | jwd
[19:15] <ubotu> jwd: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:15] <DRebellion> whabo: maybe its a corrupted cd
[19:15] <jwd> thank you DR
[19:16] <bazhang> firestarter has some excellent docs and a faq ajitam
[19:16] <whabo> Drebellion no it runs fine if i wanna put it in and restart my PC
[19:16] <whabo> Drebellion maybe its not reading from the CD
[19:16] <Nibblyn> jwd: trying ekiga now..
[19:16] <whabo> how to make sure its reading from the CD
[19:17] <Jack_Sparrow> ajitam: to c=open ports from cli you would use firestarter.. you would use iptables
[19:17] <MrObvious> bazhang: Hmm it's still the same mirrors. :\
[19:17] <whabo> Drebellion its says boot from hard drive failed .. but i want it to boot from my CD
[19:17] <viking> bazhang: just so you know. I found out you can cancel the recording in recordMyDesktop by pressing ctrl-c ")
[19:17] <DRebellion> whabo: is this a BIOS error?
[19:17] <whabo> Drbellion yes
[19:17] <whabo> Drebellion yes
[19:17] <bazhang> viking: thanks! will update my knowledgebase!
[19:18] <viking> ;)
[19:18] <cal-mac> hey folks.  i am trying to update my graphics driver using envy but i encountered an error message while trying to install a dependency.  the error message can be viewed here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51567/
[19:18] <Jack_Sparrow> ajitam: Would not use firestarter...  sorry fingers not working
[19:18] <DRebellion> whabo: then you need to configure your bios to boot off the cd
[19:18] <bazhang> MrObvious: iirc you can edit your sources list to new ones
[19:18] <IndyGunFreak> !envy | cal-mac
[19:18] <ubotu> cal-mac: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[19:18] <DRebellion> whabo: it probably says press del or f1 or something when it boots to enter setup
[19:19] <Meronik> so, applications for Debian will work on Ubuntu also?
[19:19] <bazhang> cal-mac: just say no to envy
[19:19] <cal-mac> IndyGunFreak: I tried using the restricted package manager to install the proprietary driver and now my computer only boots in low graphics mode
[19:19] <bazhang> Meronik: not a good idea no
[19:19] <IndyGunFreak> cal-mac: then configure it .
[19:19] <runa> bazhang: i found on google :he driver was integrated in the official Linux kernel starting with the 2.4.7 kernel, and the latest version is always found in the latest kernel tree.
[19:19] <whabo> DRebellion .... i have no idea .... it might be reading files from my harddrive not the CD ....
[19:19] <Meronik> no? how is that?
[19:19] <cal-mac> IndyGunFreak: configure which?
[19:19] <andrewss> Hi, I have a problem with my gnome-panel, I can't change the order of the panels: http://www.rootshell.be/~vaidab/1.png I'd like that shutdown button together with the time on the upper right part (as normal)
[19:20] <DRebellion> whabo: yes, that's obvious
[19:20] <DRebellion> andrewss: right-click it and select move
[19:20] <cal-mac> IndyGunFreak: i'm sorry.. i'm totally new to linux and ubuntu, i just installed it about 5 days ago
[19:20] <bazhang> runa: okay; dont have a sony though others here may--you can check the forums/internet search or keep asking here
[19:20] <IndyGunFreak> cal-mac: what video card?
[19:21] <whabo> DRebellion should i make an ISO image and try booting it through that?
[19:21] <andrewss> DRebellion: I can't move it after the clock
[19:21] <cal-mac> geforce go 6150
[19:21] <techqbert> anyone have the problem where randomly ubuntu thinks its time to go into standby when you touch the mouse?
[19:21] <IndyGunFreak> cal-mac: thats an old card, you don't need envy to install the driver for that.
[19:22] <cal-mac> IndyGunFreak: the restricted package manager shows that the proprietary driver is installed and in use, but i can't get screen resolution higher than 800x600
[19:22] <danie_> hello
[19:22] <DRebellion> whabo: it'll be copy protected if its a genuine windows disk. i wouldn't bother.
[19:22] <bazhang> Meronik: you addressing anyone in particular?
[19:22] <MrObvious> How do I kill X so I can manually run the NVidia display driver installer?
[19:22] <IndyGunFreak> cal-mac: open a terminal.. sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[19:22] <whabo> Drebellion ... so no chance at all?
[19:22] <MrObvious> !nvidia
[19:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:23] <DRebellion> whabo: just tell your bios to boot off the disk
[19:23] <MrObvious> Nevermind.
[19:23] <danie_> can someone help me how to get rid of blue lines on my screen
[19:23] <andrewss> DRebellion: worked, I have to unlock each one of the icons, thanks
[19:24] <cal-mac> thanks guys, i'll read through that stuff
[19:24] <DRebellion> andrewss: no problem
[19:24] <IndyGunFreak> cal-mac: did you install nvidia-settings?
[19:24] <DRebellion> danie_: can you describe your problem more?
[19:24] <cal-mac> IndyGunFreak: yep
[19:24] <IndyGunFreak> cal-mac: open  terminal, gksudo nvidia-settings
[19:24] <cal-mac> IndyGunFreak: it removed nvidia-glx/legacy
[19:25] <warcaptain> Blah.. I really dislike Nautilus
[19:25] <warcaptain> Anything better that runs on GNOME?
[19:25] <IndyGunFreak> warcaptain: thunar is good.
[19:25] <cal-mac> IndyGunFreak: alright i have an nvidia x server settings window open now..
[19:25] <IndyGunFreak> cal-mac: do you have an option there to set the resolution?
[19:25] <katabatic> .seen
[19:25] <cal-mac> IndyGunFreak: nope
[19:25] <katabatic> is there a seen command?
[19:26] <IndyGunFreak> cal-mac: who knows what you've done messing w/ Nvidia.
[19:26] <IndyGunFreak> *ebvty'
[19:26] <crdlb> katabatic: /msg seenserv seen nick
[19:26] <IndyGunFreak> envy
[19:26] <katabatic> thx
[19:26] <bazhang> katabatic: to do what?
[19:26] <danie_> when ever i select compiz to run i get small horizontal lines on my screen. they are blue lines on black background and yellow on white background
[19:27] <danie_> i installed new nvidia driver 169.07 and it did not helped
[19:27] <GottesDiener> witch command can I use from the terminal to configure my Display?
[19:29] <warcaptain> Don't I need to be using Xfce to use Thunar?
[19:29] <deadlock> omg this stupid scroll wheels doing it agin
[19:29] <deadlock>  i scroll up, and the damn right click menu open
[19:29] <cal-mac> IndyGunFreak: can you recommend where i might start?
[19:29] <IndyGunFreak> cal-mac: not really, envy has torn up mroe than a few installs.
[19:30] <IndyGunFreak> i'd probably start w/ reinstalling
[19:30] <Pici> warcaptain: nope.
[19:30] <Pici> !thunar | warcaptain
[19:30] <ubotu> warcaptain: thunar is a File Manager for XFCE. It is a lightweight alternative Nautilus and is quite similar. More info at: http://thunar.xfce.org/index.html - Want to Replace Nautilus with Thunar? see: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/nonautilusplease
[19:30] <IndyGunFreak> you an use Thunar in Gnome... i used to, but Nautilus kinda grew on me
[19:31] <warcaptain> hm
[19:31] <warcaptain> it just kinda bugs me
[19:31] <warcaptain> ubuntu so far has not been as friendly when it comes to using using folders and stuff as windows is
[19:31] <danie_> does any one having same problem as me
[19:31] <dark_> once you get used to the filesystems it makes more logical sense than windoze to me
[19:32] <Micksa> I swear I am going to get on #ubuntu-dev
[19:32] <danie_> i need help with nvidia 7900 glx
[19:32] <dark_> I use konqueror in Gnome just because it find it the easiest and most configurable
[19:33] <spydon> Does anybody know how to change what shows up in CTCP?
[19:35] <Pici> spydon: If you mean what shows up when someone tries to version you, that really depends on the client.
[19:35] <spydon> I know Pici but where does the client get it from?
[19:35] <kostarellis> !umts
[19:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umts - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:35] <danie_> hello first time here
[19:35] <siriusnova> Is it a good or bad idea to use Ubuntu as a server instead of CentOS?
[19:35] <danie_> need help
[19:35] <jimcooncat> warcaptain: It's funny, I find file management much easier with Nautilus than Windows Explorer. Much faster on many operations. I was very surprised when I moved a few files in Vista how doggy it was.
[19:35] <siriusnova> Server / Portable Workstation
[19:36] <Clearzen> siriusnova: Did you just ask that question in a ubuntu channel?
[19:36] <bdancer> danie_, hi )
[19:36] <siriusnova> no
[19:36] <Clearzen> siriusnova: then ubuntu is better
[19:36] <siriusnova> lol
[19:36] <Pici> spydon: I'm not sure what you mean, the client can report anything it wants.
[19:36] <Jack_Sparrow> danie_: Couple of questions if I may.  What version of Ubuntu?  How did you install the drivers for your video card and did you add in anything to compiz..  Did you install ccsm?
[19:36] <danie_> i need help with nvidia and compiz
[19:37] <warcaptain> maybe its just the look of it
[19:37] <warcaptain> its so boring to me
[19:37] <warcaptain> i suppose i could spice it up
[19:37] <jimcooncat> siriusnova: they're both good, but you'll like one over the other eventually
[19:37] <erica2> ubuntu-it
[19:37] <siriusnova> jimcooncat - i don't that's the problem, i like how CentOS has gui tools for everything, but ubuntu is easier as a desktop
[19:38] <danie_> ubuntu 7.10 installed ccsm downloaded driver from nvidia it works fine i have problem when i run ccsm
[19:38] <spydon> Yes Pici but isn't there a file sourcecode or conf file somewhere where I can configure what shows up?
[19:38] <jimcooncat> siriusnova: old f*rts like me only use cli on servers anyway lol
[19:38] <Pici> spydon: What client?
[19:38] <|unjustice|> anyone know how to fix the system clock in Ubuntu? I cannot get it to stay synchronized
[19:38] <Clearzen> siriusnova: if you want to run a server GUI tools shouldn't be on the list of priorities right? There is much more support for ubuntu then centOS
[19:38] <pmratpoison> Hello! I have installed Canon MP510 on my other ubuntu pc, using Canon's provided RPM drivers and making them into *.deb with alien. I want to share this printer now with this pc, which uses amd64. How do I do it?
[19:39] <SpamInaCan> how come the repo's are so SLOW...
[19:39] <siriusnova> Clearzen - yeah well id love to figure out all the intricacies of the apache text configuration files, but i dont have lots of time :(
[19:39] <amonkey> how can i get cpu usage on the command line?
[19:39] <SpamInaCan> i am getting 12 KB/s..., i have a 10mps connection
[19:39] <spydon> Pici, irssi or xchat
[19:39] <jimcooncat> Clearzen: support is everything. If you're working for a company that has RH support, you'd probably like to run most all your machines on CentOs
[19:39] <krim_> |unjustice|: I had the same problem, had to do something with cron
[19:40] <siriusnova> if ubuntu made gui config tools for ubuntu server like RHEL that would be grand
[19:40] <Pici> spydon: irssi has /set ctcp_version_reply
[19:40] <Clearzen> jimcooncat: That's a good point
[19:40] <spydon> thx Pici :D
[19:40] <jimcooncat> Clearzen: I got you guys, so I ubuntu!
[19:40] <siriusnova> lol
[19:40] <marshall> deskbar keeps crashing, how do i restart it? and how do i get it so it doesnt open a window when i activate it?
[19:40] <spydon> ^^
[19:41] <|unjustice|> anyone know how to fix the system clock in Ubuntu? I cannot get it to stay synchronized
[19:42] <genii> !ntp | |unjustice|
[19:42] <ubotu> |unjustice|: Information about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)
[19:42] <jimcooncat> siriusnova: what are you missing that Ubuntu's not providing for your server?
[19:42] <siriusnova> jimcooncat - gui config tools mainly
[19:42] <sic> hey all
[19:42] <Bosf> lol?
[19:42] <siriusnova> i just dont have the time to pop open manuals
[19:42] <siriusnova> :|
[19:42] <zachary> Hello,  I have just installed KDE4, and i somehow removed the panel at the bottom, the one that usually has the application launcher and the time.  Now all i have is an application launcher widget in the middle of the desktop.  I cannot figure out how to add the panel back.
[19:42] <siriusnova> i know it sounds terrible
[19:43] <siriusnova> meh
[19:43] <pmratpoison> Hello! I have installed Canon MP510 on my other ubuntu pc, using Canon's provided RPM drivers and making them into *.deb with alien. I want to share this printer now with this pc, which uses amd64. How can I convert the i386 RPM's to debs for this machine?
[19:44] <El_toni> hi
[19:44] <DRebellion> pmratpoison: i think 64bit will run 32bit programs. correct me if i'm wrong somebody.
[19:44] <jimcooncat> siriusnova: you mean tools to adjust window placement, themes, that kind of stuff?
[19:44] <El_toni> i have some trouble with initrd and my fixed dsdt.aml,  someone hears something about?
[19:44] <pmratpoison> DRebellion: alien tells me that the rmps are not for my arch
[19:45] <siriusnova> jimcooncat - no i mean tools to configure the server aspect, bind, procmail, apache
[19:45] <mikubuntu> my mouse on my dell d600 laptop has gone mad.  happens with or without usb mouse attached.  cursor starts drifting slowly northeast to top right corner of screen, and the longer i stay on the computer, the faster it drifts, till it's impossible to controll or counteract at all, thus leaving me with no way to navigate.  i found this page of posts with similar problems on ubuntu forums, but...
[19:45] <mikubuntu> ...they are from 2006 and appear never to have been addressed.  does anyone know what to do about this MAJOR prob?  is it some kind of malicious code that a micromole from gates team managed to slip into my updates?  heeeeEEEELLLLLppppp.
[19:46] <mikubuntu> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=207677
[19:46] <ribow> salut la compainie
[19:46] <genii> mikubuntu:
[19:46] <genii> mikubuntu: Sounds to me more like it needs cleaning
[19:46] <Pici> !it | ribow
[19:46] <ubotu> ribow: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[19:46] <unagi> when i try to copy a file from an iso in the terminal it tells me 'cp: omitting directory `/home/unagi/Desktop/maya2/maya/linux'
[19:46] <unagi> what does that mean
[19:47] <pmratpoison> !fr | ribow
[19:47] <ubotu> ribow: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[19:47] <genii> unagi: If you want directories as well as files to be copied use the -r switch
[19:47] <ribow> c hi le patron
[19:47] <hansb> How can I talk to someone at the network via a terminal using ytalk?
[19:47] <unagi> ty
[19:47] <rinaldi_> hi my ubuntu installation hangs when loading the partition editor. what can i do?
[19:47] <mikubuntu> genii, i don't think so cuz it happens with touchpad AND/OR usb lazer optic mouse
[19:47] <nickrud> mikubuntu: well, here's someone that claims they have the fix http://www.laptopsunlimited.com/dellmouse/dellmouse.htm
[19:47] <DrakeJustice_> anyone know howto compile amarok2 in kde4??? plz
[19:48] <profanephobia> how can i hide certain mounts from showing on the desktop?
[19:48] <mikubuntu> nickrud: thanks, i go have a look
[19:49] <sic> i get multiple errors when trying to install ubuntu one being buffer i/o error on device fd0 and the other is some problem with the xfer mode
[19:49] <pmratpoison> If I have the source, how can I create a deb package?
[19:49] <danik_> i need help. when ever i select visual effects from none to normal, extra, or custom, i get some random horizontal lines on my screen
[19:49] <genii> !debhelper
[19:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about debhelper - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:49] <genii> bah
[19:50] <hansb> pmratpoison: install checkinstall, and run it after you compiled the package
[19:50] <TellStar> what  should be done to secure Ubuntu 7:10 befor i take it on the net
[19:51] <Dr_willis> TellStar,  very little most likely.
[19:51] <pmratpoison> hansb: thnx, I'll check it!
[19:51] <Dr_willis> TellStar,  its very locked down by default. No services running and so forth
[19:51] <danik>  i need help. when ever i select visual effects from none to normal, extra, or custom, i get some random horizontal lines on my screen
[19:51] <TellStar> what about remote desktop
[19:51] <tushyd> are there any good slideshow programs for ubuntu... with polished transitions and the works
[19:51] <duncanm> are there prebuilt packages for firefox 3.0 for Gutsy?
[19:51] <profanephobia> how can i hide certain mounts from showing on the desktop?
[19:51] <ribow> a ba sa calm
[19:51] <DRebellion> !repeat | danik
[19:51] <ubotu> danik: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[19:51] <mikubuntu> nickrud: ya, that looks like the right fix, too bad it's over my head :(
[19:52] <DRebellion> !openoffice | tushyd
[19:52] <ubotu> tushyd: a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[19:52] <TellStar> ty bbat
[19:52] <tushyd> DRebellion, i meant for my photo collection
[19:53] <mikubuntu> nickrud:  my grandaddy used to say, put down that wheelbarrow, michael, you know you don't know a THING about machinery!
[19:53] <tushyd> danik, you might want to hit up the compiz-fusion channel
[19:53] <Clearzen> profanephobia: I know it is somewher in the gconf-editor
[19:53] <cizarro> any hints on how to get adobe acrobat installed on a x86-64 ubuntu?
[19:53] <Clearzen> profanephobia: one sec I'll try to find it
[19:53] <tim167> ubuntu installer stalls at 85%, why would that be ?
[19:54] <profanephobia> Clearzen, ah thanks
[19:54] <DRebellion> !pdf | cizarro
[19:54] <ubotu> cizarro: pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[19:54] <Foxfire_18> hi everybody
[19:54] <nickrud> mikubuntu: lol, well they have a test to see if it's that issue
[19:54] <cizarro> DRebellion, the issue is arch mismatch for the downloaded deb (from adobe)
[19:54] <Foxfire_18> does someone know how to install ubuntu in an USB HD?
[19:54] <Foxfire_18> and make it run , of course
[19:55] <Tigerplug> hey everyone - I have a question
[19:55] <Clearzen> profanephobia: use gconf-editor and go to /apps/nautilus/desktop and uncheck volumes_visible
[19:55] <Tigerplug> I usually pen test at work using windows / Mac
[19:55] <Tigerplug> but I need to use my inpsiron 1520
[19:55] <tushyd> Foxfire_18, when you're installing ubuntu it should show your USB drive as an option to install on
[19:56] <Tigerplug> how can I install the madwifi drivers that is if they work at all on dell inspiron 1520
[19:56] <DRebellion> !grub | Foxfire_18
[19:56] <ubotu> Foxfire_18: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[19:56] <Clearzen> Tigerplug: the restricted driver manger under system
[19:56] <Dr_willis> i saw a tutorial on some web site about installigmn to a usb drive. Aparently there can be ... issues installing to a usb device.
[19:56] <|REM|> Firefox_18:  Check out this site http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/
[19:56] <DRebellion> Foxfire_18: actually nevermind thost grub tutorials.
[19:56] <amonkey> how can i get the cpu usage in a bash script? using top seems to influence the cpu usage when grepping it.
[19:57] <Tigerplug> Clearzen ... can I just select madwifi from there?
[19:57] <YouKnowMe> Can I please get some help with slimserver? I installed it, but when I try running it I get thiss error: http://pastebin.com/d5d98efc0
[19:57] <Clearzen> Tigerplug: if you have a supported card it will show up there and you just check the box.
[19:57] <rinaldi_> my 7.10 installation hangs on the loading cursor when loading the partition editor. what should i do?
[19:57] <Tigerplug> clearzen its not there
[19:57] <|REM|> Firefox_18: I have not installed ubuntu that way, but I have installed other versions of linux on a USB drive following what is there and it worked like a champ
[19:57] <Tigerplug> is there anyway I can download it....
[19:58] <cypher_> Im having an issue installing SDL,  im getting an error saying dpkg is having an error trying to overwrite /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0
[19:58] <cypher_> any advice?
[19:58] <Tigerplug> clearzen - does that mean my card is not compatible
[19:58] <ttt--> hi, which program can i download to download mp3 streams?
[19:58] <Foxfire_18> thanx everyone :-)
[19:58] <siriusnova> ttt--- i use streamripper
[19:58] <Clearzen> Tigerplug: If you are using them for pentesting you probably have to patch them for injection anyway. Yes, more than likely it is not compatible with madwifi if it isn't showing up there.
[19:58] <siriusnova> ttt--: streamripper works best for me
[19:59] <Tigerplug> Clearzen - thanks for the advice - is there any other option that you know of?
[19:59] <ttt--> siriusnova: thanks i'll try it!
[19:59] <Clearzen> Tigerplug: what card do you have?
[19:59] <Tigerplug> Intel Pro wireless... Im not sure... Im just after getting it - how can I check in Ubuntu?
[19:59] <Tigerplug> clearzen
[20:00] <Clearzen> Tigerplug: lspci
[20:00] <Clearzen> Tigerplug: that will list pci devices. Including your wireless card chipset
[20:00] <Tigerplug> clearzen any links
[20:00] <Pirate-King> how do you add repositories?
[20:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Pirate-King: Which ones are you trying to add..
[20:01] <Pirate-King> ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/
[20:01] <Clearzen> Tigerplug: one sec
[20:01] <Pirate-King> trimg to get dvd's to play
[20:01] <mnemo> Pirate-King: either you edit some sources file in etc or you use synaptic GUI
[20:01] <Clearzen> Tigerplug: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[20:01] <nickrud> Pirate-King: you don't want to use that one, it's for debian. You should be using medibuntu.org
[20:02] <nickrud> Pirate-King: and medibuntu.org has instructions for adding it's repos
[20:02] <poor_man> hello ubuntu fellows
[20:02] <Pirate-King> ok ummm do you know where there is a good how to
[20:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !dvd
[20:02] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[20:02] <YouKnowMe> .
[20:02] <Pirate-King> thanks Jack
[20:02] <Clearzen> Tigerplug: If you want to do the whole pentesting thing check out the church of wifi. They have lots of info.
[20:03] <poor_man> i' made de download for the 2nd time ubuntu server edition 7.10 and when installing the burned iso image, i get errors
[20:03] <linuxConfusedNew> hi all
[20:04] <linuxConfusedNew> anyone could help me on some questions ??
[20:04] <Clearzen> !ask
[20:04] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:04] <Tigerplug> clearzen - no probs... it doesn't show my wireless just my ethernet controller
[20:04] <Pirate-King> !mediubuntu
[20:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mediubuntu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:04] <bcpage> is there a program comparable to PDF factory?
[20:04] <Tigerplug> clearzen - got it Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN Network Connection
[20:05] <Pirate-King> !Medibuntu
[20:05] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[20:05] <mikeylikesit5805> not that i know off but you can always run it in wine bcpage
[20:05] <BloodyScum> what is the min system requirements for ubuntu? I have a customer with a very old comp i think ubuntu would be great for them if it works..
[20:06] <linuxConfusedNew> I was reading about linux , read about debian, ubuntu, and also gOS, but could not yet get my choice
[20:06] <mikeylikesit5805> hi all i dont have sound it TV Time is there a place to configure it
[20:06] <Clearzen> Tigerplug: Is your laptop a HP?
[20:06] <Jack_Sparrow> BloodyScum: what cpu and how much ram
[20:06] <DRebellion> BloodyScum: i'm running it fine on pentium3 550Mhz + 512 mb of RAM :P
[20:06] <mikeylikesit5805> BloodyScum, i would i recommend about 500 mhz with 256
[20:06] <Tigerplug> Clearzen - No, my laptop is a Dell Inpspiron 1520
[20:06] <DRebellion> make that 256 mb ram sorry
[20:07] <linuxConfusedNew> can u help me choose before downloading
[20:07] <DRebellion> lolzers i'm right on the borderline
[20:07] <BloodyScum> ok thank you
[20:07] <DRebellion> linuxConfusedNew: you do realise that everybody in this channel will tell you to pick ubuntu?
[20:07] <mikeylikesit5805> no problem, let us know if you have any problems bloodyscum
[20:07] <vb> how can I check which instruction set my processor is using on ubuntu ? , I have Intel Pentium M-735A (1.7 GHz) 2 MB L2 Cache / 400 MHz FSB
[20:08] <DRebellion> linuxConfusedNew: the best thing to do is to download a handful of livecds and test them out. choose the one that works best on your hardware and you personally like the best.
[20:08] <dario> hola
[20:08] <dario> como estab
[20:08] <DRebellion> !es | dario
[20:08] <ubotu> dario: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:08] <Clearzen> Tigerplug: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=501195 <--- this thread has a wifi section for your laptop
[20:09] <Tigerplug> clearzen - gonna check that out right now
[20:09] <TellStar> who is able to runn a security  chk on this ubuntu box
[20:09] <linuxConfusedNew> DRebellion : yes but that's time consuming to try them all, I wonder if u can just give me a first choice to try
[20:09] <Clearzen> Tigerplug: it looks like it should use the bcm4xx driver. If you want to do pentesting I would suggest a external card with a atheros chipset
[20:09] <pvl> are there good python ide's with support to help with gui?
[20:09] <marshall> how do you change deskbar into just being a bar or a button instead of a window in gutsy??
[20:09] <Jack_Sparrow> linuxConfusedNew: You can join   /j #Ubuntu-offtopic  for more details...
[20:10] <BloodyScum> is there a light version of ubuntu? or somthing from the ubuntu community that would be lighter system requirements? like 128 ram, p2 200 mhz? i know thats not much to work with, but some ppl just dont want to upgrade...
[20:10] <patogen> Xubuntu or fluxbunt?
[20:10] <patogen> *fluxbuntu
[20:10] <vb> BloodyScum: Xubuntu
[20:10] <TellStar> puppylinux
[20:10] <linuxConfusedNew> ok thank u all :)
[20:10] <patogen> http://roland65.free.fr/xfe/images/screenshot-s1.png what is that showing on the desktop? I mean the mem eth0 and stuff
[20:10] <vb> how can I check which instruction set my processor is using on ubuntu ? , I have Intel Pentium M-735A (1.7 GHz) 2 MB L2 Cache / 400 MHz FSB
[20:11] <Tigerplug> clearzen - thanks - I think ill just get another card like you mentioned... that what I thought I would have to do
[20:11] <Pici> vb: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[20:11] <Assid> Pici:  doesnt mean it will use all those
[20:11] <Kernel> !bcm43xx
[20:11] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[20:11] <ajitam> hi what I have to do on my ubuntu so that I can connect to it from mac (chicken of the vnc)
[20:11] <Assid> the default ubuntu i believe uses the generic i686/i586
[20:12] <Assid> unless you get the 64bit
[20:12] <Pirate-King> damn web browser won't work now
[20:12] <wobblywu> patogen, that's gdesklets
[20:12] <MrObvious> Is anyone having any problems getting a fast download off of apt-get/synaptic?
[20:12] <Pici> vb, Assid: then do:  uname -a
[20:12] <vb> Pici: damn, it supports only SSE2 :(
[20:12] <r-wolf> how do I assign Esc keypress for Cancel button, and Enter for OK?
[20:12] <wobblywu> MrObvious, try selecting a different mirror, it's quite fast for me
[20:12] <pvl> are there good python ide -s with support for gui -s?
[20:12] <MrObvious> wobblywu: How exactly? Where are the mirror listings?
[20:13] <MrObvious> wobblywu: I looked at easysource and didn't find what I wanted.
[20:13] <patogen> wobblywu: Thank you :) Seems sweet so I'll try it ;)
[20:13] <wobblywu> patogen, most desklets on gdesklets are quite buggy, but those are fairly stable
[20:14] <patogen> wobblywu: Do you know of any alternatives to gdesklet that is not buggy?
[20:14] <h00s> Hi! I have a problem with ubuntu server 7.10 installed on usb stick/disk (corsair voyager 1gb). After 1 week of running, server just died and showed errors like 'rejecting I/O to dead device'. After reboot everything is ok again. Device is ok. What could be the problem?
[20:14] <ajitam> hi I would like to connect from my mac (chicken of the vnc) to Ubuntu. I get The server closed the connection from chicken of the vnc
[20:14] <wobblywu> patogen, to my experience they're all quite buggy, but gdesklets is usable if it's those specific things you're after
[20:14] <Clearzen> MrObvious: gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list if you add gb. to the beginning of the repo names it will use the great britian servers instead.
[20:14] <wobblywu> patogen, just don't use their xmms readers and whatnot
[20:14] <marshall> how cna i replace nautilus with thunar for opening folders in gutsy?
[20:14] <wobblywu> MrObvious, go to your synaptic > settings > repositories
[20:14] <patogen> wobblywu: Ok, well best way is to try :-)
[20:14] <Pici> !thunar | marshall
[20:14] <ubotu> marshall: thunar is a File Manager for XFCE. It is a lightweight alternative Nautilus and is quite similar. More info at: http://thunar.xfce.org/index.html - Want to Replace Nautilus with Thunar? see: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/nonautilusplease
[20:15] <wobblywu> MrObvious, you will find a dropdown box for server selection there
[20:15] <MrObvious> Clearzen: I might try that.
[20:15] <DRebellion> ajitam: ssh
[20:15] <DRebellion> !ssh | ajitam
[20:15] <ubotu> ajitam: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[20:15] <marshall> Pici: i tried that and it didnt work
[20:15] <MrObvious> wobblywu: Oh ok. I'm used to CLI I guess. I'll play with that.
[20:15] <Clearzen> MrObvious: The gui probably the better route. The other way is not the best.
[20:15] <ajitam> DRebellion: no I need graphic interface
[20:16] <DRebellion> ajitam: you can forward X over ssh:   ssh -X user@host
[20:17] <Kernel> hmm the bcm43xx driver will only run at 11 or 24 mbits?
[20:17] <Kernel> i seem to be getting realy slow speeds
[20:18] <Clearzen> Kernel: yeah, that driver is not the best. At least in my experience.
[20:18] <MrObvious> Hmm, maybe it IS my physical connection.
[20:18] <MrObvious> :\
[20:18] <ajitam> DRebellion: yes X is running how do I acess a app on ubuntu now ?
[20:18] <Kernel> hmm is there any way to make it faster?
[20:18] <Kernel> ie use ndiswrapper?
[20:18] <Kernel> or...
[20:18] <DRebellion> ajitam: you have to run a graphical program.. e.g. firefox, xchat, openoffice
[20:18] <Clearzen> ajitam: you may have to enable X forwarding in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[20:18] <Kernel> its maxing out on me at 500kb/s
[20:19] <Clearzen> Kernel: Ndiswrapper actually works better
[20:19] <DRebellion> Clearzen: ajitam: it should be enabled by default
[20:19] <Rufus_> back
[20:19] <Clearzen> DRebellion: Oh, I wasn't sure if it was in ubuntu
[20:19] <Kernel> hmm
[20:19] <bailey321> Im having a few problems with my proftpd conf file, i have it running ftp wise fine. Ive set it up for fxp but it keeps staling between transfers - Would sombody take a look at my proftpd.conf for me plz to see if i have the optiosn added correctly ;)
[20:20] <MrObvious> Can I find a way to see how many packets I'm losing?
[20:20] <ajitam> DRebellion: YES thats all I need. thx a milion
[20:20] <DRebellion> ajitam: no problem man
[20:20] <bailey321> link: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51576/
[20:20] <Clearzen> MrObvious: you could ping the server 50 or so times and see how many drop
[20:22] <MrObvious> Clearzen: Well I think the US server is just slow today. A ping to the GB server is 100 ms faster than the US one.
[20:22] <Zweisteine> Hi, I'm using gutsy and the radeon video driver. I want to use an external monitor on my laptop, I plugged it in my laptop's VGA output port and used xrandr --output VGA-0 --left-of LVDS and it works, however the output on the external monitor is very bright. How can I set the brightness per each monitor?
[20:23] <DRebellion> MrObvious: Clearzen: well i just got "Fetched 750kB in 3s (206kB/s)" off the gb server :D
[20:23] <Clearzen> MrObvious: The US servers tend to run slowly a lot. Not sure why but the gb servers are my backup
[20:23] <marshall> and i was wondering if there is a way to get a menu under the applet button or get the input field beside the button like it used to be instead of having a window with input and results
[20:23] <amonkey> how can i get usleep on the command line?
[20:23] <MrObvious> Well I just switched. We'll see if it's any better.
[20:24] <MrObvious> I'm only pulling 64kB/s now
[20:24] <MrObvious> *63
[20:24] <amer> hi, how can i backup my installed packages just names, and install them again on another pc? please any help.
[20:24] <DRebellion> !clone | amer
[20:24] <ubotu> amer: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[20:24] <grekkos> I'm having an issue with my ubuntu... I'm only getting sound *sometimes* when it starts up, other times I have to keep rebooting until it works. How do i fix this?
[20:24] <MrObvious> BRB. I'm gonna load xchat on the laptop.
[20:25] <Streifenhoernche> re
[20:26] <Clearzen> amer: or like this sudo dpkg --get-selections | grep '[[:space:]]install$=' \| awk '{print $1}' > package_list then on the other machine cat package_list | xargs sudo aptitude install
[20:26] <MrObvious> Ahh better.
[20:26] <r-wolf> is it possible in Gnome to set Esc key for window close?
[20:26] <bailey321> nobody can help me?
[20:26] <bailey321> ;(
[20:26] <MrObvious> Man the physical is just slow today I guess.
[20:26] <htmljunkie> with linux peolpe don't help you
[20:27] <htmljunkie> most people tell you to shut up
[20:27] <htmljunkie> and do it
[20:27] <bailey321> are u a linux person then?
[20:27]  * Dr_willis waves his magical wand of support...
[20:27] <Clearzen> lol
[20:27] <Assid> Dr_willis: help me fix this stupid gnome-rdp error
[20:27] <htmljunkie> bailey im' a newb
[20:27] <Assid> gnome-rdp gives an error : "error during the connection to database"
[20:28] <grekkos> r-wolf: yes it's very simple open up your keyboard shortcuts in System-> Preferences
[20:28] <bailey321> htmljunkie u badman linux geezer u cant u just help me
[20:28] <Dr_willis> Assid,  i dont use gnome. Sorry.   Dont even know what gnome-rdp is.
[20:28] <grekkos> r-wolf: it's under window management
[20:28] <amer> Thank you ubotu and Clearzen.
[20:28] <gnychis> what's the proper guide to follow for setting up compiz-fusion in terms of video cards?
[20:29] <Assid> is htere a better im than pidgin
[20:29] <Tigerplug> what should I be looking for ... Unable to find a supported JDK or JRE version. Version 1.3.1 or higher is required.
[20:29] <Assid> something that supports even webcam and stuff
[20:29] <Assid> and faster
[20:29] <r-wolf> grekkos: it would be just a Alt+F4 replacement then
[20:29] <grekkos> gnychis: i think the only thing different between video cards is the drivers
[20:29] <Tigerplug> what do I need to install... well what is JDK or JRE ?
[20:29] <grekkos> r-wolf: yes
[20:29] <Tigerplug> anyone :"Unable to find a supported JDK or JRE version. Version 1.3.1 or higher is required.
[20:29] <Tigerplug> "
[20:29] <grekkos> Tigerplug: JDK is the java software development kit, JRE is the java "player"
[20:30] <Tigerplug> grekkos - can I install using apt-get
[20:30] <Assid> aka - java runtime environment
[20:30] <hypn0> Assid: kopete works with webcam, don't know if its faster
[20:30] <grekkos> Tigerplug: there should be a package available on the repositories, are you using gnome?
[20:30] <Assid> kopete - gnome ?
[20:31] <bailey321> omg i googled my problem and i found the exact same problem
[20:31] <bailey321> funny thing is its my post lol
[20:31] <riaal> change default group for a user? anyone?
[20:31] <Tigerplug> grekkos - yes I am - But Im new to linux... I don't really understand what I have to do
[20:31] <grekkos> bailey321: welcome to linux :)
[20:31] <hypn0> Assid: kopete is kde app
[20:31] <l3dx> How can I restore the default fonts in Ubuntu? I followed a guide a while ago, to change them to more windows-looking
[20:32] <l3dx> but hey..who want a windows-look?
[20:32] <Assid> i know. but im using gnome. hence my - kopete - gnome" remark
[20:32] <bailey321> idk grekkos its not so bad ive managed ok but just this small prob needs a gurus attention
[20:32] <Tigerplug> grekkos - can you tell me where to find it
[20:32] <MrObvious> How do I go to a 64 bit install without burning a x64 CD?
[20:32] <bailey321> guru = htmljunkie i assume
[20:32] <bailey321> :P
[20:32] <MrObvious> !64bit
[20:32] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[20:32] <hypn0> Assid: you can run kde apps in gnome too
[20:32] <htmljunkie> i'm not a linux pro
[20:32] <grekkos> Tigerplug: i would recommend using adept_manager it's a nice way to browse the repositories graphically.. sudo apt-get install adept or adept_manager I don't remember the specific name of the package... and then it will let you browse the repositories easier than using the apt-get from the command line
[20:32] <Assid> more libraries :(
[20:32] <grekkos> what's the problem you're having bailey321 ?
[20:32]  * bailey321 was being sarcastic
[20:32] <Assid> and it just doesnt perform the same
[20:33] <htmljunkie> bailey i will know more about linux in a month than you will in 3 years
[20:33] <htmljunkie> :)
[20:33] <Tigerplug> grekkos - thankyou
[20:33] <gaypc> what will u do?
[20:33] <bailey321> grekkos my fxp in proftpd stalls beteen trasnfers for some reason, im sure its just the way i have the conf setup
[20:33] <grekkos> Tigerplug: tell me if you'er having trouble finding any of the packages or using that package manager and i'll help you fix the problem
[20:34] <bailey321> htmljunkie why is this?
[20:34] <bailey321> plz elaborate..
[20:34] <grekkos> bailey321: i've never used proftpd... i'm guessing this is some kind of ftp daemon? i prefer to use SSH
[20:34] <Aeleon> Yo, I'd like some help setting up openvpn on Ubuntu as a server, is that offtopic?
[20:34] <Tigerplug> grekkos - thanks - I appreciate it
[20:35] <mikubuntu> gaypc, you love a catfight don't you :)
[20:35] <danilo> good evening!
[20:35] <gaypc> yes mikubuntu
[20:35] <bailey321> ogrekkos: np ill keep goolging ;)
[20:35] <mikubuntu> i thought so
[20:35] <danilo> escuse me please help for ubuntu?
[20:35] <bailey321> grekkos*
[20:35] <mikubuntu> lol
[20:35] <Assid> okay as for my problem
[20:35] <Assid> can someone help me?
[20:35] <Aeleon> danilo, what is your first language?
[20:35] <Assid> gnome-rdp gives an error : "error during the connection to database"
[20:36] <riaal> change users default group anyone?
[20:36] <Aeleon> !ask | Assid
[20:36] <ubotu> Assid: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:36] <mikubuntu> danilo que ocupas
[20:36] <danilo> italian
[20:36] <mikubuntu> danilo what can we do for  you
[20:36] <Mumssa> Italian! .. Thats suckulent!
[20:36] <Aeleon> danilo, /j #ubuntu-it
[20:36] <Mumssa> :=)
[20:36] <Assid> Aeleon: posted a question.. heck i asked quite a few times
[20:36] <unagi> does dpkg overwrite older installations?
[20:36] <mikubuntu> danilo, if you can try english
[20:36] <Mumssa> Assid: Suck our balls
[20:36] <Aeleon> Then keep asking, we probably either didn't read it through the scroll or don't know the answer.
[20:37] <Aeleon> But because people keep joining and leaving, maybe someone else will.
[20:37] <Assid> Mumssa: ?
[20:37] <jw--> our?
[20:37] <Mumssa> Assad blows ?
[20:37] <Aeleon> I just got back, what was it you asked? Make sure to ask it all on one line, please, so we can read it.
[20:37] <Assid> Mumssa: get a life
[20:37]  * Fackamato touches <nick> with a twenty-foot rusty halberd
[20:37] <aricz> :]
[20:37] <Fackamato> o,o
[20:37] <Mumssa> STFU :P
[20:37] <aricz> mmmmmm
[20:37] <Fackamato> tweaK_!!
[20:37] <danilo> i want installer the beryl
[20:37] <jw--> lol
[20:37] <Assid> Aeleon: thats why i kept asking
[20:37] <Assid> gnome-rdp gives an error : "error during the connection to database"
[20:37] <Aeleon> so keep asking, don't ask if you can ask.
[20:37] <Fackamato> tweaK_ sug av quakenet
[20:37] <Aeleon> What was your question?
[20:37] <mikubuntu> Mumssa: do you have someone in your pocket?
[20:37] <Mumssa> Ass Add
[20:38] <Aeleon> bailey321, there's a #proftpd channel, if you'r ehaving a problem with that.
[20:38] <Assid> someone wanna kick his butt?
[20:38] <grekkos> danilo, per aiuta in italiano /join #ubuntu-it
[20:38] <Mumssa> mikubuntu: We like to have this network running
[20:38] <Aeleon> Thanks, grekkos.
[20:38] <flokuehn> hey whats going on in this ca
[20:38] <angasule> I can't play mp3 on amarok or kaffeine, even though I installed the appropriate packages as far as I know
[20:38] <r-wolf> does the 64-bit Ubuntu really outperform the 32-bit one? I mean, 32-bit version is compiled for i686, thus no modern instructions available, and stuff like that...
[20:38] <DRebellion> angasule: which packages did you install?
[20:38] <Aeleon> Assid, what's your questoin?
[20:38] <bailey321> kewl Aeleon
[20:38] <Assid> gnome-rdp gives an error : "error during the connection to database"
[20:38] <angasule> DRebellion: a lot :) I tried using the automated thingie, too
[20:39] <Assid> wanna know how to fix that
[20:39] <Mumssa> mikubuntu: does not include dalnet ops or we need to remove them from our nets
[20:39] <DRebellion> r-wolf: 64bit outperforms 32bit simply because more is better :D
[20:39] <DRebellion> angasule: which ones?
[20:39] <mikubuntu> danilo, synaptic package manager, search for compiz or compiz fusion or beryl, mark for installation
[20:39] <angasule> DRebellion: I didn't install today, I don't recall every single package I installed in the last couple of months
[20:39] <l3dx> what is the default fonts in ubuntu?
[20:39] <l3dx> FreeSans?
[20:39] <Aeleon> Google tells me it's a bug, Assid.
[20:39] <DRebellion> !medibuntu | angasule
[20:39] <ubotu> angasule: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[20:40] <DRebellion> angasule: specifically the package win32codecs
[20:40] <Assid> Aeleon: right, so hence why i want to get some help
[20:40] <l3dx> what is the default fonts in ubuntu? FreeSans?
[20:40] <tim167> is ot possible that ubuntu installer sees an IDE disk as a SCSI while installing? what's wrong with it ? (7.10)
[20:40] <angasule> DRebellion: I'm pretty sure that's not required to play mp3
[20:40] <Assid> thought maybe someone worked with it
[20:40] <r-wolf> DRebellion: well, as for windows, I haven't noticed any performance boost from 32 to 64 bit; so, maybe linux would...
[20:40] <DRebellion> angasule: so far you have given me zero information to help you
[20:40] <Dr_willis> tim167,  with some of the new changes in the libata stuff.. YES ide disks can appear as scsi.
[20:40] <Aeleon> Try deleting .gnome-rdp.db in your home folder, Assid.
[20:41] <DRebellion> r-wolf: that's because its windows
[20:41] <angasule> DRebellion: this is the error I get from kaffeine: PM: xine: couldn't find demux for <filename>
[20:41] <tim167> Dr_willis, ah , and will the install work in the end ?
[20:41] <tim167> Dr_willis or should i install an older version ?
[20:41] <ubuntu__> hey guys, I have a problem.  I keep trying to install gutsy but the kernel crashes.  The alternative installer will install the system but then the system won't boot all the way (it hangs).  Any ideas?  Is there any way to update the kernel in case the bug was fixed in an update, without having to boot the system?
[20:41] <Dr_willis> tim167,  it should. Just sure you dont accidently format the wrong disk like i did once. :) i had a mixed sata/ide system.. both disks showed up as scsi/sd$$ - I dident pay attention
[20:42] <DRebellion> angasule: i'm not sure about that
[20:42] <DRebellion> !mp3 | angasule
[20:42] <ubotu> angasule: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:42] <retohu> can someone help me with this v4l issue? i have a wintv hvr 1300, now i installed the updated v4l and it suddenly worked, but when I reboot the analog tv signal is gone (using tvtime), what can I do?
[20:42] <Dr_willis> tim167,  im thinking  ide showingup as sd## will be commonplace in a year of 2.
[20:42] <omar_> hi
[20:42] <Assid> Aeleon: yeah that seems to do the job, but unfortunately, lost the rdp lists :(
[20:42] <angasule> DRebellion: thanks, but I already tried that...
[20:43] <Aeleon> sorry, it's all i can come up with.
[20:43] <Dr_willis> tim167,  its aparently a change thats from fixing a lot of issues in the old ata/ide interface code. Theres sites that discuss this all. :)
[20:43] <grekkos> Tigerplug: were you able to find the JRE package?
[20:43] <tim167> Dr_willis, ok, that wont be the problem, but the installation is very slow... it failed a few times, burned new cds, trying a third time now...i got GRUB error 18 the first time...
[20:43] <Assid> Aeleon: scary.. oh well.. atleast it works
[20:43] <Aeleon> i think that's all you can do until the bug gets fixed.
[20:43] <Assid> but they should fix that
[20:43] <Tigerplug> grekkos : I got "Check your installation and use +javahome to specify the JDK or JRE location" - when trying to run an application that needed JDK and JRE
[20:43] <Aeleon> it was filed in the beginning of december, i'm sure they're on it.
[20:43] <Assid> cool
[20:44] <grekkos> Tigerplug: the application should only require JRE, unless your'e compiling the sourcecode then you'll need the JDK... i think there might be a package named 'java' so try apt-get install java
[20:44] <grekkos> How can i fix the problem of my sound card being "blocked" it seems that no audio programs are able to output to my sound anymore... strangely.
[20:44] <Dr_willis> tim167,  no idea there sounds like some really odd stuff going on.
[20:45] <mikubuntu> danilo, did you find compiz in synaptic?
[20:45] <retohu> anyone experienced with v4l?
[20:45] <Aeleon> !ask | retohu
[20:45] <ubotu> retohu: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:45] <Aeleon> so i apt-get install'd openvpn, but i have no easy-rsa directory. any suggestions?
[20:45] <Tigerplug> grekkos - nope thats not the package. The program that I am trying to run is a program written by a network admin here in ireland ... I'd say I may have to compile
[20:46] <Chris|> Aeleon include sudo
[20:46] <Nine5102> My ubuntu refuses to play midi files (tried both kmid and timidity, and several midi files).
[20:46] <tim167> Dr_willis yes, indeed, i am downloading feisty now, i think i will try that, maybe its better for older computers...
[20:46] <grekkos> Tigerplug: did you install the adept_manager?
[20:46] <Aeleon> I did, Chris. I installed openvpn just fine. everything else is there.
[20:46] <Chris|> ah
[20:46] <Assid> i wish making mono / gtk# wasnt more complicated than regular C#
[20:46] <Dr_willis> tim167,  never noticed. :)
[20:46] <Assid> thought id have a generic C# app run
[20:47] <Tigerplug> grekkos ... Just running the jdk install from adept... I selected it the first time...but must have forgot to apply
[20:47] <Aeleon> Chris| but the only directory in my /usr/share/doc/openvpn is examples/.
[20:47] <grekkos> Assid: use java they're practically the same thing ;)
[20:47] <Assid> grekkos: need to relearn
[20:48] <grekkos> Assid: yeah java's really nice though I don't use it very often... I always need to keep a java reference handy
[20:48] <Assid> and also java.. yikes.. too much resources
[20:48] <ajitam> hi anybody using ProFTPD? Where is config file ?
[20:48] <DRebellion> ajitam: /etc/ is my best guess
[20:48] <Assid> ajitam: i think /etc/proftpd.conf or /usr/local/etc/proftpd.conf
[20:49] <Assid> grekkos: nah
[20:49] <Assid> oh well.. back to php :P
[20:49] <Tu13es> can someone point me to a tutorial for installing KDE 4 on a previously gnome system?
[20:49] <Tu13es> I'm on Gutsy
[20:49] <sFEARs> i get a "no space left on device" while trying to compile. anyone know what device that is refering too and how i could clear up some space?
[20:49] <Tu13es> I did sudo apt-get install kde and am having issues
[20:49] <grekkos> Tu13es: there's a package called kubuntu on the repositories try that
[20:49] <grekkos> Tu13es: or kubuntu-desktop i don't remember exactly
[20:49] <Tigerplug> grekkos - adept says JRE and JDK are installed but I get "Unable to find a supported JDK or JRE version. Version 1.3.1 or higher is required."
[20:50] <grekkos> Tigerplug: what program are you trying to run?
[20:50] <Tu13es> grekkos: just sudo apt-get install kubuntu?
[20:50] <cheeby> hi.  is there a decent flash player for x86_64?  Trying to view flash 9.
[20:50] <Assid> kubuntu-desktop gets kubuntu stable
[20:50] <Tigerplug> Ill give you a link, it tracked by pirate bay..... NOT WAREZ - just a piece of software developed by a local guy: http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3831026/Eircom_Netopia_Wireless_Router_WEP_Key_Generator
[20:51] <Tigerplug> grekkos Ill give you a link, it tracked by pirate bay..... NOT WAREZ - just a piece of software developed by a local guy: http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3831026/Eircom_Netopia_Wireless_Router_WEP_Key_Generator
[20:51] <MrObvious> cheeby: Just download the 32 bit one, get the file you put into the Firefox plugin directory and put in 64 bit.
[20:51] <Tigerplug> its not a big file
[20:52] <grekkos> Tigerplug: is this program just to generate keys from passphrases ? i'll try downloading it now and see if it works for me
[20:52] <roni> Tem Alguem no Brasil
[20:52] <angasule> apparently xine-config is missing
[20:52] <angasule> !pt | roni
[20:52] <ubotu> roni: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[20:52] <Tigerplug> grekkos - it generates them from the ssid
[20:53] <Tigerplug> grekkos - only on routers by eircom (Irish ISP)
[20:53] <roni> ok obrigado
[20:53] <grekkos> Tigerplug: do you have any problems running any other java software?
[20:54] <Tigerplug> grekkos I can run azureus
[20:54] <grekkos> Tigerplug: it sounds like a program-specific error, is there any way to configure the program?
[20:54] <beter_bocek> aguuuuuuuuuuu
[20:54] <beter_bocek> hey
[20:54] <AutoMatriX> !swf
[20:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:55] <Tigerplug> grekkos - theres a readme with it.. but not much
[20:57] <YouKnowMe> Can I please get some help with slimserver? I installed it, but when I try running it I get thiss error: http://pastebin.com/d5d98efc0
[20:57] <LetterRip_> hi all, cpufrequency scaling only lists two possible values and the low one is high - the two values are 800 and 1600
[20:58] <beter_bocek> I need the help? for VCD players in ubuntu
[20:58] <Tigerplug> grekkos - you get the torrent?
[20:59] <sFEARs> i get a "no space left on device" error when i try to compile xconfig.. anyone know how i can clear up some space.. i have 20 gigs left on the hard drive
[20:59] <Tigerplug> grekko - Ill be back in 5 mins
[20:59] <rinaldi_> hi my live cd installation hangs as it's loading the partition editor. what can i do? it's ubuntu7.10
[21:00] <magicrobotmonkey> is there a torrent for jeos?
[21:00] <wsgued1> how much mem do you have?
[21:00] <sFEARs> rinaldi_, make sure you have defragmented your drive before you start your live cd
[21:00] <PriceChild> !offtopic | magicrobotmonkey
[21:00] <ubotu> magicrobotmonkey: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:00] <sFEARs> and if you have a large volume drive it takes 15 minutes sometimes before the partition manager opens up
[21:01] <wsgued1> rinaldi_: how much mem do you have on the pc?
[21:01] <rinaldi_> 1gb ram and its 150gb hard drive
[21:01] <DRebellion> !vcd | beter_bocek
[21:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vcd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:01] <rinaldi_> what should i use to defragment then?
[21:01] <sFEARs> yeah.. it's not hanging.. your just not giving it enough time to process
[21:01] <DRebellion> beter_bocek: what exactly is the problem?
[21:02] <sFEARs> 150GB is a lot to sift thru to repartition.. and repartition using windows if your doing a dual boot system
[21:02] <sFEARs> sorry..
[21:02] <sFEARs> 150GB is a lot to sift thru to repartition.. and DEFRAGMENT using windows if your doing a dual boot system
[21:02] <rinaldi_> i have left it for 30mins  before. the orange bar goes up to the top but im left with the rotating cursor
[21:02] <wsgued1> rinaldi_: just give it some time... I had a problem with my 7.10 live cd, so I made a 7.04 and installed through that
[21:03] <Proxeneta> ][][][-Mucha gente-][][][
[21:03] <tumbleweed__> lul
[21:03] <wsgued1> rinaldi_: then through the updates you can upgrade to 7.10
[21:03] <Proxeneta> ][][][-Alguna mujer preciosa por aca-][][][
[21:03] <Mumssa> Fieldy idiot doesnt understand Koders and banns Mumssan!!!!
[21:04] <MirrorImage> Has anyone installed KDE4?
[21:04] <rinaldi_> ok il try leaving it for a while longer, if not 7.04 then. thanks
[21:04] <rinaldi_> mirrorimage: yes i have
[21:04] <wsgued1> yep
[21:04] <Tigerplug> grekko - any lucj?
[21:04] <Tigerplug> *luck
[21:04] <MirrorImage> I need a little help.
[21:04] <wsgued1> MirrorImage: we all need help in our own ways ;)
[21:05] <MirrorImage> I don't know what the tutorial I'm reading means when it explains "setting up the enviorment."
[21:05] <DRebellion> MirrorImage: what exactly are you trying to do?
[21:05] <wsgued1> what is kde4?
[21:06] <MirrorImage> http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4#Setting_up_the_environment
[21:06] <wsgued1> MirrorImage: IE java run environment uses the java JRE...
[21:06] <tmccrary> Does ubuntu support the Realtek 8211BL network cards?
[21:06] <wsgued1> MirrorImage: what do you need the kde4 for?
[21:07] <wsgued1> yes
[21:07] <retohu> why is my tv card working after installing the updated v4l but after another boot not anymore?
[21:07] <wsgued1> wait I don't know
[21:07] <wsgued1> haha
[21:07] <MirrorImage> I don't need it for anything in particular other than having it.
[21:07] <tmccrary> Dapper doesn't seem to be able to detect the Realtek 8211BL card
[21:07] <wsgued1> MirrorImage: hmm
[21:08] <dinesh> hi
[21:08] <wsgued1> I am using a realtek net card on 7.10
[21:08] <cox377> HEY ALL
[21:08] <wsgued1> I don't know which type though
[21:08] <cox377> does anyone here use a pdf editor?
[21:08] <tmccrary> can you do an lspci and see please?
[21:08] <dinesh> hello
[21:08] <wsgued1> I am in the middle of upgrading
[21:08] <wsgued1> in a second I can
[21:08] <tmccrary> ok, thanks
[21:09] <tmccrary> man Realtek sucks
[21:10] <g4lv4tr0n> does anyone know how i cd to a samba share from terminal ?
[21:10] <comicinker> help!: I receive a kernel panic after playing arount with a usb wifi-stick! what can I do?
[21:10] <linduxed> is there an equivalent of the windows app DaemonTools?
[21:10] <Chousuke> linduxed: for standard .iso images, mount is sufficient
[21:11] <dark__> gisomount
[21:11] <linduxed> Chousuke: for others?
[21:11] <Chousuke> linduxed: you need to convert them to .isos
[21:11] <linduxed> dark__: thx, will try
[21:11] <g4lv4tr0n> should i mount my samba share to /media/folder to cd to it ?
[21:12] <grekkos> Tigerplug: it works just fine for me
[21:12] <grekkos> Tigerplug: how are you running the program?
[21:12] <bingodeville> g4lv4tr0n: I use smbmount to mount shares from a windows server
[21:12] <Tigerplug> like it says in the readme
[21:12] <grekkos> Oh i didn't read the readme
[21:12] <grekkos> let me read it
[21:13] <Aeleon> ok, refresher: how do I copy one directory into another directory?
[21:13] <Tigerplug> grekko : "./eircomWEP-linux"
[21:13] <grekkos> oh
[21:13] <grekkos> I didn't use that file
[21:13] <grekkos> let me see what's in it
[21:13] <Tigerplug> ok
[21:13] <grekkos> try this
[21:13] <obreiroGZ> Hello to everybody. There is someone tha knows how to forget a wlan config in network manager? (I use gutsy)
[21:14] <grekkos> java -jar eircomWEP.jar
[21:14] <grekkos> from a terminal window in the containing folder for the .jar file
[21:14] <Tu13es> how do I install KDE 4 alongside Gnome?
[21:14] <siriusnova> KDE4 is out?
[21:14] <siriusnova> awesome
[21:14] <siriusnova> how do i install it :)
[21:14] <rinaldi_> sudo apt-get install kde4-base i think
[21:14] <rinaldi_> (did it earlier)
[21:15] <ruthgard> there is a package for getting all the kde packages
[21:15] <grekkos> kubuntu-desktop?
[21:15] <grekkos> maybe
[21:15] <ruthgard> it was mentioned in fullcircle, I can check what its called
[21:15] <grekkos> I don't remember the package name offhand
[21:15] <ijn> hi all
[21:15] <linduxed> dark__: ok i checked out giso but thats also for isos
[21:16] <ijn> how to add windows to lilo on ubuntu 7.10 64 bit????
[21:16] <MrObvious> !lilo
[21:16] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li]nux Boot[Lo]ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[21:16] <MrObvious> :\
[21:16] <dark__> linuxed yes.. mostly isos can be mounted easy.. you can convert what youve got to iso.. what type of file are you dealing with?
[21:16] <tacone> hello, feel stupid asking, does any port of gnome terminal exists for windows ?
[21:16] <ijn> during installation lilo didnt recognized xp
[21:16] <grekkos> kde4base no dash in it
[21:16] <obreiroGZ> ijn you can install starup
[21:16] <Flare183> tacone: cygwin maybe
[21:17] <tacone> Flare183:  mh, I guessed something like that. I'll check
[21:17] <dark__> linduxed yes.. mostly isos can be mounted easy.. you can convert what youve got to iso.. what type of file are you dealing with?
[21:17] <grekkos> Tigerplug: did you get it working?
[21:17] <Flare183> tacone: ok
[21:17] <ijn> so what to do to install grub???
[21:17] <tacone> thanks
[21:17]  * MrObvious downloads the KDE4 package but waits on the slow download.
[21:17] <MrObvious> For some reason it's being slow today.
[21:17] <grekkos> MrObvious: i'm not entirely sure that's the right package tell me how that works out
[21:17] <tmccrary> What is the latest kernel on dapper?
[21:18] <ruthgard> sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[21:18] <MrObvious> grekkos, Ok.
[21:18] <Tigerplug> grekkos ... yep I just did now
[21:18] <JerseyMonkey> Question: How do I install Ubuntu in a text based manner? I have issues with my video card, so it'd be easier to install through text so I can manually install drivers.
[21:18] <ubuntu-s> hi how do i see my mozilla cokkies on ubuntu
[21:18] <JRU909> I have a question about a compatibility issue
[21:18] <ruthgard> not sure what kde version you get tho
[21:18] <Flare183> !grub | ijn
[21:18] <ubotu> ijn: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:18] <Tigerplug> grekkos - thanks very much!
[21:18] <sidewalk> can anyone help me with a KDE question?
[21:18] <grekkos> Tigerplug: no problem... if you want you can write a short bash script to type in the command for you and run it with a ./scriptname command
[21:18] <Flare183> !ask | Tig'
[21:18] <ubotu> Tig': Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:18] <ijn> so during install ubuntu did not detected windows
[21:18] <Flare183> !ask | Tigerplug
[21:18] <ubotu> Tigerplug: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:18] <Flare183> sorry
[21:19] <ijn> and now it says just lilo
[21:19] <grekkos> FloodBot2: sidewalk , not tiger
[21:19] <Flare183> sorry
[21:19] <grekkos> er
[21:19] <grekkos> Flare183:
[21:19] <TheGoodKid> JerseyMonkey: use the alternate install CD
[21:19]  * MrObvious thwacks Flannel 
[21:19] <froksen> Hey everyone... I have a friend who haven't any sound in his flash when he tries use Youtupe etc. We have tried: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204022 ... Any Ideas?
[21:19] <grekkos> Flare183: it was sidewalk ^^
[21:19]  * MrObvious thwacks Flare183 instead
[21:19] <Flare183> grekkos: yeah i know now
[21:19] <grekkos> hehe it happens
[21:19] <ubuntu-s> hi how do i see my mozilla cokkies on ubuntu
[21:19] <rinaldi_> mrobvious: what exactly are you downloading. are you using the repos from here: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-kde-40-stable-in-ubuntu-gutsy.html
[21:19] <JerseyMonkey> TheGoodKid, So, I have to download a seperate ISO to do such?
[21:19] <grekkos> Flare183: out of all the channels i idle this one gets the most activity
[21:19] <Tigerplug> grekkos - I'll look into that - it'll help me learn more too
[21:19] <MrObvious> rinaldi_: Just the plain repos
[21:20] <JRU909> I have an older computer, and it meets all of the requirements listed on all the sites I read, but when I try to boot the live cd, I hang in the middle, and I get a black terminal screen with a flashing cursor, any advice?
[21:20] <ruthgard> THose interested in trying out KDE4 could follow this short guide: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php
[21:20] <Flare183> grekkos: yeah tell me about it
[21:20] <Aeleon> refresher: how do you make a folder?
[21:20] <grekkos> Tigerplug: good :) bash scripting is very helpful... you can find a lot of good guides and references on google... search for bash tutorials or something
[21:20] <TheGoodKid> JerseyMonkey: yes, go to http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download and check the box for the slternate desktop CD
[21:20] <TheGoodKid> alternate*
[21:20] <Flare183> froksen: yeah flash is broken right now (on adobe anyway)
[21:20] <Tilllinux> how to hide *all* desktop icons? i know how to hide the volumes etc but I want all icons to be hidden
[21:20] <rinaldi_> ii used the deb from the ubuntu members, went fast
[21:20] <MrObvious> Does anyone know if it's possible to download a 64 bit verion of Ubuntu if I don't have any burnable CDs at work?
[21:20] <Jowi> JRU909, "meet requirements" ...? how much ram do you have and what is the cpu type?
[21:20] <JerseyMonkey> TheGoodKid, Thankyou. Gotta go dig up a CD to burn it with. :)
[21:20] <froksen> Flare183: Fair... Any idea when it might be fixed?
[21:21] <JRU909> 256 ram P2 processor
[21:21] <Tigerplug> grekkos - actually I think I will - I want to learn to write one for backups and a few other thing... rather than copying and not learning
[21:21] <Aeleon> how do I create a new directory?
[21:21] <Flare183> froksen: nope
[21:21] <ubuntu-s> hi how do i see my mozilla cokkies on ubuntu
[21:21] <Flare183> Aeleon: mkdir
[21:21] <froksen> Flare183: Fair... Thanx anyway :-)
[21:21] <Aeleon> thank you, Flare183.
[21:21] <Jowi> JRU909, you will need the alternate CD.
[21:21] <Flare183> froksen: no problem
[21:21] <grekkos> Tigerplug: it saves a lot of time :) i'm not that great at it myself but I have written a few helpful scripts
[21:21] <Jowi> !alternate | JRU909
[21:21] <ubotu> JRU909: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[21:21] <MrObvious> I guess not. :\
[21:21] <Flare183> Aeleon: same for you
[21:21] <hsteve> hi peeps
[21:22] <JRU909> I also want to know what the reason for my system hanging is
[21:22] <JRU909> if it's not a problem
[21:22] <Aeleon> Oh, how do you delete files?
[21:22] <ijn> obreiroGZ:i did installed startup but it wont start ....
[21:22] <Aeleon> :|
[21:22] <bingodeville> aeleon rm <filename>
[21:22] <Aeleon> I haven't done this in like five years, I'm really embarrassed.
[21:22] <Aeleon> Thank you, bingodeville.
[21:22] <Hammer89> I'm having some strange problems with 3D graphics when I run games
[21:22] <Flare183> Aeleon: rm
[21:22] <Jowi> JRU909, your RAM is ok, but the CPU is low end. I would recommend alternate or even Server version (and add a GUI/WM on top of that). wait, I have a good link for thtat
[21:22] <tretle> how do I change grub settings within the live cd?
[21:23] <l3dx> Hammer89: what kind of problems?
[21:23] <Ink5> hi
[21:23] <Tigerplug> grekkos - cool, Its something I've always wanted to learn. May be useful in work... where i work mainly on windows (but I've tried to bring in unix as much as possible) deployed a nagios box today. Maybe use bash scripting to check services on servers ... thats possible right?
[21:23] <Ink5> how do i find out what version of Ubuntu i have installed?
[21:23] <Jowi> JRU909, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[21:23] <Ink5> i mean, Dapper, Feisty etc
[21:23] <insane_alien> Ink5, system/about ubuntu
[21:23] <Hammer89>  l3dx: colors are all shifted around... I tried playin Open Arena and almost everything was black... menus were so messed up I couldnt even read text
[21:23] <Flare183> Ink5: use lsb_release
[21:24] <Hammer89>  l3dx: the main menu was fine, hoever
[21:24] <Hammer89> *however
[21:24] <JRU909> Jowi: Thank you very much, I'll try this out, if it doesn't work, I'll just continue using Puppy
[21:24] <grekkos> Tigerplug: i'm not exactly sure what you mean by "checking services" but I've seen bash scripts to convert file formats from one text file format to another so I'm sure anything's possible :)
[21:24] <Ink5> 'No LSB modules are available.' - and I don't have system/about
[21:24] <Jowi> JRU909, you're welcome. I've installed using the method in the link for a P1 133 with 128MB RAM.
[21:24] <bingodeville> ink5: lsb_release -a
[21:25] <Ink5> bingodeville: thx
[21:25] <Flare183> Ink5: use lsb_release -r
[21:25] <Flare183> or -a
[21:25] <Ink5> is gutsy older than dapper? :-)
[21:25] <insane_alien> ink5 the system is the menu named system up the top left
[21:25] <Ink5> man, do I have no clue
[21:25] <Ayabara> I use the dark Divinorum theme for my Ubuntu. This work pretty well, but when I use the volume buttons on my laptop, both the slider and the background are dark/black. How can I fix it so I get another color?
[21:25] <grekkos> Ink5: dapper is about a year old
[21:26] <Tigerplug> Cool stuff
[21:26] <Flare183> Ink5: dude in order, dapper, edgy, fiesty, gusty
[21:26] <grekkos> Ink5: dapper drake i think is version 6.01
[21:26] <IndyGunFreak> grekkos: its almost 2yrs.
[21:26] <Flare183> grekkos: that's right
[21:26] <l3dx> Hammer89: OK, never tried that game, so I don't have any suggestions..however..are your graphics driver correct/working?
[21:26] <IndyGunFreak> its version 6.06
[21:26] <Flare183> !dapper
[21:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) was the fourth release of Ubuntu. See !lts for more details.
[21:26] <Flare183> yeah
[21:26] <tretle> hi, I installed ubuntu and then upgraded it to ubnutu+1 or hardy alpha a few weeks ago. I installed windows xp on another partition afterwards and then a few weeks after last night I installed ubuntu gutsy onto the last partition.... I thought that it would reinstall grub but it didnt and now Im stuck with the windows boot manager which gives me too options... windows xp or other os and the other os option doesnt work
[21:26] <grekkos> hmm sounds like an exciting game of Ubuntu trivia :)
[21:27] <PriceChild> !hardy | tretle
[21:27] <ubotu> tretle: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[21:27] <ubuntu-s> how can i edit cookies on mozilla
[21:27] <Ink5> so i have a shiny new version
[21:27] <esc> hi
[21:27] <Flare183> !fixgrub | tretle
[21:27] <ubotu> tretle: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:27] <dark__> Hammer89 It will be a problem with openGL - you gotta have Direct Rendering enabled too
[21:27] <tretle> how do I get grub to reset as default  and detect the three os's
[21:27] <tretle> ?
[21:27] <Flare183> !fixgrub | tretle
[21:27] <esc> i am having trouble accessing password protected samba shares from a gutsy machine
[21:27] <Hammer89> dark__: where/how do I do that?
[21:27] <Ryuho> hey compiz is acting up so i want to uninstall everything and start over, can ubuntu work correctly with out compiz installed?
[21:27] <haluk> tretle:  try this boot with ur ubuntu live cd then type these on ur terminal
[21:27] <PriceChild> !fixgrub | tretle
[21:27] <Flare183> tretle: got that?
[21:27] <ubotu> tretle: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:27] <grekkos> !fixgrub | grekkos
[21:28] <Flare183> Ryuho: yes it can
[21:28] <haluk> sudo grub then find /boot/grub/stage1
[21:28] <Jowi> Ryuho, yep
[21:28] <Flare183> !fixgrub > tretle
[21:28] <FactTechnologies> Question: Suppose you have just one user on a computer, and you want to change the username for that user. I would think you would want to use usermod, but usermod fails complaining that it can't lock the password file. Presumably, that's because you can't edit the user that's logged in. What's the best way to get this done -- start in single-user mode?
[21:28] <Ryuho> im having this trouble where windows can't move or resize
[21:28] <Ryuho> no close button either
[21:28] <haluk> root(hd?,?)
[21:28] <haluk> setup (hd0)
[21:28] <haluk> quit
[21:28] <hsteve> is ubuntu one of the best distro for linux?
[21:28] <Tigerplug> does intalling tor on ubuntu slow down your internet much?
[21:28] <tretle> ok thanks
[21:29] <linduxed> lets say ive got a 64-bit ubuntu, and ive realized this comp really is better off with 32-bit...is there any way to backup the system so that ill have little to none to do after reinstalling?
[21:29] <haluk> ? means after find /boot/grub/satge 1 it gives ur linux partion numbers
[21:29] <IndyGunFreak> hsteve: best thing to do is try it, it works for a lot, not for others.
[21:29] <FactTechnologies> hsteve I highly recommend it for new users because of the extensive community support.
[21:29] <Dr_willis_> Tigerplug,  tor can slow things down a bit. and using tor can slow down your browser. Yes.
[21:29] <Tilllinux> Tigerplug: there is a torbutton plugn for firefox for quick enablind/disabling tor
[21:29] <Flare183> !best | hsteve
[21:29] <Jowi> hsteve, yes/no/maybe :)
[21:29] <hsteve> yes
[21:29] <ubotu> hsteve: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[21:29] <Dr_willis_> !tor
[21:29] <ubotu> TOR is a project aiming to provide anonymous connections via specialized !proxies - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TOR for information and help - Note that TOR is blocked on most Ubuntu IRC channels, please see !hostmask and !tor-gpg
[21:29] <Flare183> and that includes os's too
[21:29] <Tigerplug> tillinux I've never had much luck installing tor
[21:29] <esc> anyone any ideas about not beng able to get at samba shares that are only acessible for certain users?
[21:29] <Tigerplug> I would install it and it worked once
[21:29] <hsteve> ok
[21:29] <Tigerplug> then gone
[21:29]  * IndyGunFreak forgot all about ubuntu-bots
[21:29] <dark__> Hammer89 do "glxinfo | grep rendering" in console and see what it says
[21:30] <FactTechnologies> esc are you providing a username parameter when you try to connect?
[21:30] <Hammer89> dark__: okay
[21:30] <hsteve> i seem to like ubuntu a lot
[21:30] <esc> well, i click on the share, and enter username/passowrd
[21:30] <grekkos> neat bot :)
[21:30] <esc> ps: works fine with windows
[21:30] <mannytu> TOR is so slow...
[21:30] <hsteve> i support almost everything
[21:30] <IndyGunFreak> hsteve: then if you like it, use it.
[21:30] <linduxed> would baking up /home be enough? (that is if i exclude the apps and dont mind installing them throung synaptic again)
[21:30] <Kuwanger> I have a small routing problem with gutsy's netboot.  Specifically, I can't seem to get the default gateway to work.
[21:30] <hsteve> it
[21:30] <Hammer89> dark__: http://pastebin.com/m705d6407
[21:31] <FactTechnologies> esc Are you talking about accessing a linux machine's share from a Windows machine, or vice versa?
[21:31] <hsteve> it support almost everything except my mailing system
[21:31] <esc> FactTechnologies: the samba is on a debian box
[21:31] <Phusion> mannytu: that's because you're using proxies from possibly across the globe
[21:31] <esc> i can access the shares there from windows
[21:31] <hsteve> how do i get evolution to work as a mail retriever?
[21:31] <limetang> Hello. I'm trying to get my joystick working on Gutsy. I'm pretty sure my gameport's detected, but analog doesn't appear to be doing much (according to dmesg, at least). /dev/input/js0 doesn't exist.
[21:31] <FactTechnologies> esc Sorry, I've only ever used samba the other way. What's the symptom?
[21:32] <dark__> Hammer89 So you aint got Direct rendering working which is why openGL games like openarena wont work properly
[21:32] <esc> and also the guest ones from ubuntu
[21:32] <Ayabara> 5~/exit
[21:32] <Hammer89> dark__: how do I fix that?
[21:32] <unagi> !topaz
[21:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about topaz - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:32] <unagi> sigh
[21:32] <unagi> anyone know what 'topaz' is?
[21:32] <Flare183> !info topaz
[21:32] <ubotu> Package topaz does not exist in gutsy
[21:32] <ubuntu-s> how can i find where is mozilla
[21:32] <esc> but i can't get at password protected shares
[21:32] <ubuntu-s> in which directory is mozilla
[21:32] <Flare183> !search topaz
[21:32] <ubotu> Found:
[21:32] <esc> like users homes for example
[21:32] <Flare183> unagi: nothing
[21:32] <unagi> ?
[21:32] <Phusion> Ubuntu: Applications -> Internet -> Firefox Web Browser
[21:32] <Phusion> ack
[21:33] <Phusion> ubuntu-s:
[21:33] <Sopor> Topaze?
[21:33] <dark__> Hammer86 have a look at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml its for gentoo but you need to really just make sure you have the right modules loading in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:33] <esc> i have the same problem with mint btw..
[21:33] <Sopor> A medical soft
[21:33] <hsteve> does ubuntu retrieve mail from free mail distro's
[21:33] <Hammer89> dark__: okay
[21:33] <FactTechnologies> esc Could be permissions settings on the files being shared.
[21:33] <esc> and its only those shares where u need a user and password to login
[21:33] <hsteve> like hotmail box
[21:33] <Flare183> hsteve: it can
[21:33] <FactTechnologies> esc Most stuff in /home is only visible to the user that created it, I think.
[21:33] <esc> FactTechnologies: no, as these are accessible from windowd
[21:33] <hsteve> how
[21:33] <ubuntu-s> no i mean from my home directory catalogue
[21:34] <ubuntu-s> in which directory is mozilla
[21:34] <dark__> Hammer89 .. take a backup of xorg.conf before you mess with it "sudo cp /et/X11/org.conf /etc/X11/xorg.backup
[21:34] <esc> this is what makes me wonder
[21:34] <hsteve> Flare183 how does it do that
[21:34] <Flare183> !info hotway | hsteve
[21:34] <ubotu> hsteve: hotway: POP3 to Hotmail (HTTPmail) gateway. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.8.4-2.2 (gutsy), package size 54 kB, installed size 192 kB
[21:34] <linduxed> lets say ive got a 64-bit ubuntu, and ive realized this comp really is better off with 32-bit...is there any way to backup the system so that ill have little to none to do after reinstalling?
[21:34] <Flare183> !repeat | ubuntu-s
[21:34] <ubotu> ubuntu-s: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[21:34] <Jowi> hsteve, your question is a bit strange. you can use web interface or configure evolution/thunderbird to retrive mail with both pop3 or IMAP.
[21:34] <esc> everything is fine with windows, but with ubuntu it ain't doing the trick, which is is kinda odd ;-)
[21:34] <Hammer89> dark__: will do
[21:34] <ubuntu-s> i did not repeat
[21:34] <esc> i thought maybe its a common problem
[21:34] <someguy> linduxed: back up your /home
[21:34] <ubuntu-s> whats this
[21:34] <FactTechnologies> esc So if you connect Win->linux, you see them. If you connect linux->linux, you don't?
[21:34] <hsteve> jowi i don't know just trying
[21:35] <IndyGunFreak> someguy: even when switching from 64bit to 32bit?
[21:35] <linduxed> someguy: will that preserve application settings?
[21:35] <limetang> linduxed: in future, make /home and /boot separate partitions.
[21:35] <esc> FactTechnologies: corract, but only those that are user/password protected
[21:35] <dark__> Hammer89 .. I should think you just need to add the modules in (dri and GLX) and the mode bit in the dri section
[21:35] <FactTechnologies> esc Is it possible that samba is enforcing permissions on a linux->linux connection that it doesn't enforce on a Win->linux connection?
[21:35] <Hammer89> dark__: Hmm... okay
[21:36] <Kuwanger> Is gutsy's netboot environment just not working?
[21:36] <comicinker> I cannot boot my system because of a kernel panic. can somebody help me?
[21:36] <someguy> linduxed: I should think so.  At least most of your desktop and wine settings
[21:36] <keisangi> i have a problem with gusty and samba shares ... i can see and browse remote shared folders, but i cannot seem to be able to get write permission ("read only" option is unchecked in menu system > admistration > shared folders .... i shared /home/keisangi/ )  how can i get write permission on samba shares ?
[21:36] <jimcooncat> would like to make a shell script that I can cron; delete any file older than 24 hours. Where would I find how to do that, please?
[21:36] <someguy> linduxed: obviously you will lose anything you've installed since the initial istallation
[21:36] <nagyv> hello! I have a video, and I would like to have one part of its sound separately. Could someone recommend me a suitable application?
[21:36] <Flare183> keisangi: use gksudo to fix the permissions
[21:36] <esc> FactTechnologies: maybe
[21:37] <comicinker> keisangi: you have to set the folder permissions to let everybody have write access
[21:37] <keisangi> Flare183, ok i try that
[21:37] <dark__> Hammer89 .. You could just make sure you are using the right drivers from the manufacturer of whatever first.. i dunno
[21:37] <Flare183> keisangi: ok
[21:37] <linduxed> someguy: ok, that would mean a lot...
[21:37] <keisangi> comicinker, you mean set /home/keisangi to 777 ?
[21:37] <linduxed> someguy: ofh but wait
[21:37] <tretle> on that page it says to run /mnt/root and you should get an output but all i get is /mnt/root is a directory
[21:38] <Hammer89> dark__: I have the drivers for my graphics card installed
[21:38] <linduxed> someguy: you mean the apps right? i dont mind instaling them again...as long as the settings prevail
[21:38] <Jeffx_> how do I install fedora?
[21:38] <comicinker> keisangi: yes. so I recommend you to create a single folder. not yout whole home directory
[21:38] <someguy> linduxed: yeah, I mean the apps, but the configuration for this are in the .* folders in you /home directory
[21:38] <rinaldi_> !fedora
[21:38] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[21:38] <dark__> Hammer89 .. K well you want to look at section 3, configuring direct rendering in that site i gave you
[21:39] <someguy> linduxed: (for your personal settings)
[21:39] <esc> FactTech: i'll go and dig round in the samba logs
[21:39] <Flare183> Jeffx_: this is a ubuntu support channel not a fedora support channel
[21:39] <keisangi> comicinker, ok thanks a lot for the help, i'll try that
[21:39] <Hammer89> dark__: that's where I'm at now :)
[21:39] <FactTech> esc That might be a lead... like I said, I don't have any experience with this situation.
[21:39] <someguy> linduxed: if you modified and .conf's you can always copy them to your back up and paste them back where they ened to go after
[21:39] <dark__> Hammer89 .. yeh you dont need to worry about compiling the kernel and all that
[21:40] <Flare183> !linux
[21:40] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[21:40] <Tigerplug> If im currently running Gnome and I install KDE.. what does that make my distro?
[21:40] <Starnestommy> Tigerplug: it'll still be ubuntu
[21:40] <dark__> Hammer89 .. you dont need to touch modules.autoload.d either i dont reckon
[21:40] <someguy> Tigerplug: Ubuntu, but you can use any apps from Kubuntu
[21:41] <Tigerplug> .... and can I select between kde and gnome?
[21:41] <Starnestommy> yes
[21:41] <gnoift> yeah
[21:41] <Flare183> Tigerplug:
[21:41] <Starnestommy> gdm allows you to select session types
[21:41] <gnoift> from the login-screen
[21:41] <linduxed> someguy: ok so basically if i install the same apps i have now i should end up with the same system (pretty much) if i backup and then overwrite the /home directory?
[21:41] <someguy> Tigerplug: yes!  gdm will allow you to select either one at login
[21:41] <Flare183> Tigerplug: yeah you can
[21:41] <Flare183> Tigerplug: from gdm
[21:41] <someguy> linduxed: in theory yes.
[21:42] <Roscar> I need some help dual booting. Initially, I installed just ubuntu. Wine isn't working well enough so I resized my partition and installed winxp on the new partition. Rebooting went to windows. I resetup grub with a knoppix disc but it only seems to detect my ubuntu install. How can I get it to decect and boot both operating systems?
[21:42] <comicinker> nagyv: you mean something like virtual dub for linux?
[21:42] <donkdonk> installed and changed the config around for vsftpd. now i start the vsftpd service and the message says it starts but its not running when i check ps.
[21:42] <donkdonk> no error logs anywhere
[21:42] <donkdonk> is there some way i can debug it?
[21:42] <Tigerplug> someguy is it just apt-get kde?
[21:42] <Tigerplug> for kde 4
[21:43] <Flare183> !kde4 | Tigerplug
[21:43] <ubotu> Tigerplug: KDE 4 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. - KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ and support in #kubuntu
[21:43] <linduxed> someguy: would this include gdm settings?
[21:43] <someguy> Tigerplug: that would be just the base, you could probably search Synaptics for all the bells and whistles you will want with KDE
[21:43] <nagyv> comicinker: I don't really know virtual dub, but as I see it's also for capturing video. Actually, I already have the video file, and just need the sound.
[21:43] <Dr_willis_> kde4 is being discussed in #kubuntu at this time.
[21:43] <someguy> linduxed: all specific user settings, yes
[21:43] <Hammer89> dark__: I can't find a "Section "dri"" in myxorg.conf file
[21:44] <someguy> linduxed: just dont' switch from Ubuntu to Kubuntu :)
[21:44] <nagyv> comicinker: just found a command line solution at http://linux.byexamples.com/archives/229/extract-audio-from-video-or-online-stream/
[21:44] <nagyv> thanks!
[21:44] <dark__> Hammer89 thats cos you need to add it at the very end..
[21:44] <Hammer89> dark__: ok
[21:45] <dark__> Hammer89 Section "DRI"
[21:45] <dark__> Hammer89 Mode 0666
[21:45] <Aeleon> Ohhh, damnit. :c I have an ubuntu box that I can SSH to and I just made some key files for what i hope will be my vpn from openvpn. How do I send them to the vista box I'm SSH'ing from, which wil be my client?
[21:45] <dark__> Hammer89 EndSection
[21:45] <Hammer89> dark__: done it... is the 3rd part of that page the only one I need to be concerned with?
[21:45] <selckin> is there a way to get a dep tree with apt? or see why a package is getting pulled in?
[21:45] <dark__> Hammer89 yeh i reckon
[21:46] <Hammer89> dark__: alright... do I need to reboot in order for the changes to take effect?
[21:46] <gnoift> Aeleon what are you using to get to the linux machine from vista?
[21:46] <jimcooncat> Aeleon: if you're going to be doing this more than once, get WinSCP
[21:46] <Aeleon> putty.
[21:46] <nullbyte00> uh, what it the command to join a different server?
[21:46] <dark__> Hammer89 you can restart x with ctrl alt backspace
[21:46] <Hammer89> okay
[21:46] <Hammer89> brb
[21:46] <Aeleon> I don't think I'm going to be doing this mor ethan once, no, jimcooncat.
[21:46] <Aeleon> Oops, forgot to hightlight- gnoift, I'm using putty.
[21:47] <nagyv> comicinker: hmm, this didn't work
[21:47] <nullbyte00> how do i connect to a server?
[21:47] <jords> Aeleon: yeah get winscp it gives you a ftp-like interface over ssh.
[21:47] <gnoift> aeleon: you only need the public key id_rsa.pub
[21:47] <comicinker> nagyv: there is a cool tool, wait, I have to remember the name....
[21:48] <gnoift> aeleon: the text in there is small enough to copy and paste into the authorized_keys file
[21:48] <Aeleon> this howto on openvpn.net says I need ca.crt and my client key.
[21:48] <Aeleon> and my client .crt
[21:48] <Hammer89> dark__: still messed up....
[21:49] <KenSentMe> nullbyte00, you mean on irc?
[21:49] <nullbyte00> yes
[21:49] <comicinker> nagyv: the tool is called avidemux
[21:49] <dark__> Hammer89 what does glxinfo | grep rendering say now
[21:49] <Aeleon> gnoift: this howto on openvpn.net says I need ca.crt and my client key.
[21:49] <jimcooncat> Aeleon: if they're text files, copy them from the putty screen and paste them into notepad
[21:50] <Aeleon> uh, they're not suposed to be text files, are they?
[21:50] <Jeffx_> I was wondering, are their any benefits in using a KDE desktop over Gnome?
[21:50] <gnoift> aeleon: can you start a ftp deamon on your machine to grab the files? Otherwise filezilla can also handle scp
[21:50] <dark__> Hammer89 and what vid card are you using? in the driver section of xorg are you ising the right driver?
[21:50] <jimcooncat> Aeleon: I don't know about vpn keys. I know ssh keys are
[21:50] <Odd-rationale> Jeffx_: The choice is yours.
[21:50] <KenSentMe> nullbyte00, oops, i fiddled with the server settings myself and got disconnected
[21:50] <Aeleon> gnoift, I'm probably going to download winscp like the others advised.
[21:51] <Aeleon> jimcooncat, i'll look.
[21:51] <terrible_tickler> hi
[21:51] <KenSentMe> nullbyte00, with /server server.address you can connect to a different irc server
[21:51] <Hammer89> dark__: http://pastebin.com/d5930c510
[21:51] <unagi> anyone know what  16: Syntax error: Bad substitution means
[21:51] <gnoift> aeleon: good choice
[21:51] <Hammer89> dark__ I'll check... my card is an ATI Radeon Xpress 200m
[21:51] <jimcooncat> Aeleon: don't bother, if you're going to get winscp anyway. I'm sure you'll have future use for the program
[21:51] <tickler> hi
[21:52] <dark__> Hammer89 so glxinfo gives same as before
[21:52] <gnoift> aeleon: why are you using vpn btw: just qurious
[21:52] <Hammer89> dark__: what was the gentoo link again?
[21:52] <gnoift> Hammer89: what gentoo link are you looking for?
[21:52] <Hammer89> dark__: fwiw, I have compiz-fusion running fine right now
[21:52] <dark__> Hammer89 http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-489349.html .. ive lost the gentoo one for a minute
[21:52] <nagyv> comicinker: thanks, actually I just succeeded to get it in a wav file, now I just find out how to cut out a portion of the text :)
[21:52] <Aeleon> gnoift, uh. You promise you won't get mad?
[21:53] <Aeleon> thanks, jimcooncat.
[21:53] <gnoift> aeleon: why would i? :-)
[21:53] <Ryuho> when i try to go to windows settings it gives me an error "These settings cannot work with your current window manager"
[21:53] <Professor_K> Hi everybody
[21:53] <tripps> i'm using ubuntu server and using apt-get install to install apps and it prompts me to put the gutsy cd in the drive. how do i tell it to download the packages? the server is remote
[21:53] <Aeleon> gnoift, people did last time when i got into detail about what i wanted to do.
[21:53] <Hammer89> dark__: http://pastebin.com/d158c0ea
[21:53] <Jeffx_> I'm so glad I chose Ubuntu over fedora, the community there is terrible!
[21:53] <Hammer89> dark__: that's my device setting
[21:53] <gabriel7645> can I ask anything about script shell writing on this channel?
[21:53] <syntaxerror55> What is 'scrollkeeper-up'?
[21:54] <syntaxerror55> gabriel7645: #bash
[21:54] <unagi> anyone know what  16: Syntax error: Bad substitution means
[21:54] <bluefoxx> any good how-to sites on coding/scripting[c++, perl, java, css, i want to learn it all]
[21:54] <dark__> Hammer89 oky lemmie have a think.. some radeon  dont play nice
[21:54] <BoxcarJim> I need help on an oldworld PPC Mac install, I copied over the kernel and all but when bootx boots the kernel it doesn't see the install cd and just goes to busybox
[21:54] <keisangi> comicinker,  it worked, tnx again
[21:54] <Hammer89> dark__: sure
[21:54] <gnoift> aeleon: nah i'm just q, i use ssh for pretty much everything and anything - tunneling through firewalls,getting to my machine from work, making a proxy to sites that i can't get to from work when they are blocked
[21:54] <syntaxerror55> bluefoxx: Have any prior knowledge of coding?
[21:55] <knoppix> jjtr
[21:55] <knoppix> jggg
[21:55] <syntaxerror55> knoppix: stop spamming please :D
[21:55] <Aeleon> Did you get my PM
[21:55] <Aeleon> ?
[21:55] <gabriel7645> when i want to launch a python program from a shell script what command should I use?
[21:55] <Aeleon> I hate fighting with some people here, they can get really pretentious. :|
[21:55] <bluefoxx> syntaxerror55: i know some html and linux bash, im a sponge for computer knowlage
[21:55] <proqesi> so don't, you'll wear yourself out
[21:56] <syntaxerror55> bluefoxx: okay, let me get the link to what I'd reccommend
[21:56] <skorbutrage> fighting os for those who cannot kill in the first strike
[21:56] <Aeleon> proqesi, that's why I'm not, thanks for the advice.
[21:56] <Professor_K> can somebody help me please, I installed amarok on ubuntu but it says that it can't play mp3s, the problem is that just before that I used XMMS and it could read mp3s...
[21:57] <FactTech> Professor_K What's the exact text of the error message?
[21:57] <Jeffx_> how do I root?
[21:57] <Aeleon> gnoift, you there? or did I lose you?
[21:57] <syntaxerror55> bluefoxx: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Non-Programmer%27s_Tutorial_for_Python
[21:57] <gabriel7645> su
[21:57] <gabriel7645> jeff
[21:57] <Aeleon> Jeffx_, more often than not you'll be fine with sudo.
[21:57] <syntaxerror55> bluefoxx: that's for python at least.
[21:57] <syntaxerror55> (which I like very much :D)
[21:57] <johnficca> it there a version of ubuntu that will run on a emac ppc with only 32mb of ram
[21:57] <comicinker> keisangi: youre welcome
[21:57] <johnficca> ?
[21:58] <Aeleon> I'm gonna bookmark that, syntaxerror55!
[21:58] <bluefoxx> syntaxerror55: tyvm, ittl get me started
[21:58] <syntaxerror55> johnficca: I don't think so, but there are probably Linux distros that will
[21:58] <Bohemian> where is firefox located by default in ubuntu (command line)?
[21:58] <nios> all lp,lpstat (printer stuff) what to apt-get install ?
[21:58] <gmoore> i'm thinking of setting up XBMC-linux on my HTPC, which currently runs Vista. to do this i'll need to install linux. i'm very used to linux (used to run ubuntu, now gentoo) but i want as few headaches as possible for getting audio/video/etc working. *before* i commit to wiping my hdd to install an os, i'd like to try a livecd to do a dry-run. how hard will it be to get audio (SPDIF output via toslink), video acceleration (onboard intel GMA3100), e
[21:58] <gmoore> tc working on an Ubuntu LiveCD?
[21:58] <Professor_K> FactTech: I dont really know, it just said that it couldnt read mp3s, it also asked if I wanted to install something but I already installed all the codecs as I said; it also talked about xine I think
[21:58] <MrObvious> Bohemian, I think /usr/bin/firefox
[21:58] <syntaxerror55> Aeleon: yay :D
[21:58] <FactTech> Professor_K, hold a sec...
[21:58] <LjL> Professor_K: sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[21:59] <keisangi> hum i see files copied through samba aren't getting their owner and permission updated , i can copy files from a remote share, but then i have to change their permission to be able to use them, there's no way to make all copied files to inehrit target machine owner right ?
[21:59] <Jeffx_> ok Im in root, how do I fedora?
[21:59] <gnoift> aeleon: no still here, just talking to you in the pm
[21:59] <FactTech> Professor_K, Have you tried the instructions seen here http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=94539&
[21:59] <Bohemian> thanks
[21:59] <syntaxerror55> bluefoxx: you're welcome
[21:59] <Aeleon> gnoift, if you sent me anything, I got none of it.
[21:59] <MrObvious> I'd say you're welcome but Bohemian left. lol
[21:59] <Professor_K> FactTech: no, I will check out this right now thx
[22:00] <FactTech> Professor_K, No problem. Good luck.
[22:00] <linduxed> what cli command do you use to check how much space a directory occupies?
[22:00] <bluefoxx> anyone else got some links for programming?
[22:00] <gnoift> bohemian - if you ever want to know where things are type "whereis whateveryourelookingfor"
[22:00] <dark__> Hammer89 oky it may be a case of you having to do some googling with the name of your card and enable direct rendering linux or something.. the only thing i can think of off the bat is to try the "radeon" driver instead of fglrx in your xorg.. im looking on some websites now but i have to go out in a moment
[22:00] <gmoore> linduxed: man du
[22:01] <Dr_willis_> whereis my car keys.
[22:01] <Dr_willis_> :)
[22:01] <Aeleon> whereis my sanity
[22:01] <gnoift> dr_willis: or "man overboard"
[22:01] <proqesi> Dr_willis_: no car keys found in /usr/bin
[22:01] <gmoore> Aeleon: segmentation fault
[22:01] <Aeleon> oh damn.
[22:01] <XinFei> im running ubuntu 7.10.... i cant get any cds to burn
[22:01]  * Aeleon pulls a Britney!
[22:01] <Dr_willis_> "car Keys found under /dev/couch/cushion
[22:01] <XinFei> with gnomebaker or Brasero
[22:01] <proqesi> Aeleon: no sanity found in /usr/bin
[22:02] <unagi> is there anything wrong with these lines?...............LEADING_PATH_CHARACTER=${INSTALLDIR:0:1}  # This assumes that sh really is Bash!
[22:02] <unagi> if (test ${LEADING_PATH_CHARACTER} != "/") ; then
[22:02] <DrakeJustice_> Dr_willis_: nice
[22:02] <Hammer89> dark__: alright
[22:02] <unagi> is there something missing?
[22:02] <XinFei> im trying to copy a .mp3 file
[22:02] <Flare183> !offtopic
[22:02] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:02] <BrightEyes`> hello. how can i install the latest kde4 on my ubuntu?
[22:02] <Dr_willis_> BrightEyes`,  see topic in #kubuntu
[22:02] <Flare183> !kde4 | BrightEyes`
[22:02] <ubotu> BrightEyes`: KDE 4 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. - KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ and support in #kubuntu
[22:02] <Aeleon> gnoift, i still can't see anything you're saying if you're saying anything to me.
[22:03] <gnoift> Aeleon: no still here
[22:03] <bluefoxx> proqesi: how about "sanity found: terminating...sanity terminated"
[22:03] <BrightEyes`> i got there.now what
[22:03] <linduxed> gmoore: thx
[22:03] <BoxcarJim> Can anyone help me with BootX?
[22:03] <gnoift> man woman
[22:03] <gnoift> hehehe
[22:03] <DrakeJustice_> BrightEyes`: google it... or ask in #kubuntu
[22:03] <gabriel7645> is there anyone who could help write a simple script to launch a python screenlet?
[22:03] <sourcemaker> somebody tested kde4? is it stable?
[22:03] <igorzolnikov> Tell me the simple method of deny some IP on gentoo.
[22:04] <gnoift> /etc/denyhosts?
[22:04] <DrakeJustice_> sourcemaker: works good... few icon glitches on my box...
[22:04] <DrakeJustice_> sourcemaker: supposedly svn fixed already
[22:04] <al-_-Gir> someone can help me , just tell me if this site is working http://85.65.28.15/phpinfo.php
[22:04] <spencer70> how come everything all the sudden is choppy when it scrolls?
[22:04] <Aeleon> gnoift, you can't actually run udp over ssh, can you?
[22:05] <Flare183> spencer70: clear the screen
[22:05] <Flare183> spencer70: using /clear
[22:05] <comicinker> keisangi: I know that problem. If you want to get rid of that, you have to study the smb.conf. I think the integration of widows shares on ubuntu is a pain. maybe its better with kubuntu. I hate samba and the config file. I need something graphical. (swat is a bad joke!)
[22:05] <Flare183> spencer70: that fixes the problem
[22:05] <gnoift> Aeleon: not sure, let me test quickly
[22:05] <Flare183> !smb4k
[22:05] <spencer70> flare183 where do i use /clear
[22:05] <Odd-rationale> al-_-Gir: Seems like it is working
[22:05] <Flare183> spencer70: on the line you are typing on
[22:05] <rschu68>  http://85.65.28.15/phpinfo.php -? works
[22:06] <XinFei> yo guys, im running ubuntu 7.10 and im trying to burn an .mp3 file.. i tried to burn it with gnomebaker and brasero.. but it just doesnt burn.. gnomebaker says it failed.. and brasero has *Determining VOlume* or something like that... and it wont quit anyway.. any ideas how to burn it
[22:06] <al-_-Gir> Odd-rationale  you see the php info ?
[22:06] <Flare183> !spam | rschu68
[22:06] <XinFei> or do i need to go back to 6.10
[22:06] <XinFei> >_>
[22:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb4k - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:06] <ubotu> rschu68: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubotu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense...
[22:06] <torago> o
[22:06] <spencer70> flare183 im talkin bout my whole computer is choppy
[22:06] <Flare183> !info smb4k
[22:06] <ubotu> smb4k: A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4-1 (gutsy), package size 1788 kB, installed size 3832 kB
[22:06] <Aeleon> gnoift, if you can, you're my newest hero.
[22:06] <Flare183> spencer70: I have not idea
[22:06] <gnoift> Aeleon: yeah you can but it's a bit of work to setup
[22:07] <rschu68> @ : yesal-_-Gir
[22:07] <Odd-rationale> al-_-Gir: Yes
[22:07] <unagi> !pastebin
[22:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[22:07] <al-_-Gir> apache is coole :)
[22:07] <unagi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51589/
[22:07] <al-_-Gir> cool *
[22:07] <unagi> er
[22:07] <Aeleon> do you have to set it up port-by-port, or can it be.. uh, dynamic, like you can with tcp ports?
[22:07] <gnoift> Aeleon: is there a firewall that you have to tunnel through? are you using corkscrew?
[22:08] <torago> oops
[22:08] <Aeleon> no, never heard of corsckrew.
[22:08] <Aeleon> & yes, gnoift, as a matter of fact, there is.
[22:08] <alvaro_> holala
[22:08] <Professor_K> FactTech: this thread is about an unstable version of debian, and it's too specific, I don't have the same problem because XMMS reads all my music without any problem; I guess I just have to enable amarok to use the codecs but i don't know how..
[22:08] <gnoift> Aeleon: no it will have to be done 1 at a time
[22:08] <alvaro_> helolo
[22:08] <Aeleon> :( saad.
[22:08] <alvaro_> ubuntu apesta
[22:09] <Flare183> !es | alvaro_
[22:09] <ubotu> alvaro_: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:09] <igorzolnikov> gnoift, i have not found /etc/denyhosts?
[22:09] <gnoift> Aeleon: you using port 443 to tunnel through and running your ssh deamon on 443?
[22:09] <igorzolnikov> gnoift, i have not found /etc/denyhosts
[22:09] <FactTech> Professor_K, Hmm...
[22:09] <georges> hey, where can I find help for qdvdauthor?
[22:09] <Aeleon> gnoift, i'm using putty and using 22.
[22:09] <gnoift> igor: man denyhosts
[22:09] <krim> Is it possible to add one mysql hash to John the Ripper manually? Without putting it in a file first that is.
[22:09] <sourcemaker> DrakeJustice_: all right... but I think... I will wait for kde 4.1 :-)
[22:10] <Hammer89> does  fglrx still not support Composite with DRI
[22:10] <gnoift> georges: have you tried 'devede' ? it's easier to use than dvdaut
[22:10] <Hammer89> *?
[22:10] <FactTech> Professor_K, You tried the part about installing the 'libxine1-plugins' package?
[22:10] <Hammer89> *does  fglrx still not support Composite with DRI?
[22:10] <georges> hmm, thanks for pointing that out!
[22:10] <white_eagle> !k3b
[22:10] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[22:10] <gnoift> aeleon: this will help:
[22:10] <georges> gnoift: in fact qdvdauthor does not show thumbnails, only "ERROR" but of course no detail
[22:11] <gnoift> to tunnel UDP over TCP -> http://zarb.org/~gc/html/udp-in-ssh-tunneling.html
[22:11] <georges> hmm, you wanted to suggest k3b. as far as I know that one does not author the disk :-)
[22:11] <Professor_K> FactTech: that part is in the thread? :S
[22:11] <georges> heading to devede...
[22:11] <gnoift> georges: i love devede it was the perfect solution to getting avi's on my ps3 before firmware 2
[22:12] <Sonja> how do i convert 100 jpg images (sorted alphabetically) into the pages of a single pdf document? they are of varying sizes, so the tool should auto-best-fit the images to Letter size on each page.
[22:12] <gnoift> apt-get install devede :-)
[22:12] <Aeleon> Sonja, do you have photoshop?
[22:12] <Sonja> yes i have it on my winxp computer
[22:12] <pike_> there is im sure a way to script it on ubuntu
[22:12] <Aeleon> you can do it there. Under the file menu, there's an automate option.
[22:12] <georges> hehe. gnoift, about the ps3... it now plays divx ok. does it also play HD divx? 1080i?
[22:12] <Aeleon> and one of those is uh, something like automate to pdf
[22:13] <Sonja> Aeleon neat
[22:13] <Aeleon> you have to have all the images you need open in ps, though.
[22:13] <FactTech> Professor_K -- Well, it's the part that's listed as relevant here http://tronprog.blogspot.com/2007/08/amarok-cant-play-mp3-files.html
[22:13] <gnoift> georges: never got a 1080i file before, best i've seen is 720
[22:13] <gnoift> and it played that just grat
[22:13] <georges> gnoift: hmm eah, heroes comes in 720p
[22:13] <Sonja> i'll try Aeleon's method, if ubuntu has no way of creating pdf from 100 jpgs
[22:13] <FactTech> Professor_K -- Did you upgrade something when Amarok stopped working?
[22:14] <Aeleon> i don't know if gimp has that option?
[22:14] <whabo> why doesnt my 4 GIGs of ram show????
[22:14] <Aeleon> have you ooked, sonja? ^
[22:14] <Aeleon> looked*
[22:14] <gnoift> did the guy looking for DENYHOSTS come right?
[22:14] <whabo> i just upgraded to 4 GIG of ram
[22:14] <neverblue> whabo, how are you viewing it ?
[22:14] <whabo> im only showing around 3 GIG
[22:14] <georges> gnoift: apparently a lot now in matroshka containes. I wonder if ps3 handles that
[22:14] <Sonja> i googled around but didn find
[22:14] <mikeylikesit5805> Whabo are you sure you computer supports 4 gb try memtest
[22:14] <whabo> from the about
[22:14] <gnoift> georges: mp4?
[22:14] <Professor_K> FactTech: no I just installed amarok, it never worked, yet.
[22:14] <georges> a propos: putting lotsa jpg into a pdf, there are scripts for managing pdf files.
[22:14] <whabo> mikey yes it supports 4 GIG
[22:15] <neverblue> whabo, about says its only 3GB, maybe do memtest, and see if one isnt working
[22:15] <Aeleon> whabo, you were just in the windows channel. What operating system do you run?
[22:15] <georges> gnoift: avhdc (spelling) the format on HD discs
[22:15] <whabo> maybe coz i need a 64 bit ubuntu?
[22:15] <FactTech> Professor_K -- That's weird. But mp3s do play in other programs?
[22:15] <Professor_K> yeah
[22:15] <whabo> ubuntu and windows
[22:15] <Sonja> georges you know how to convert 100 or so jpgs into a pdf ?
[22:15] <gnoift> georges: heh no i have no idea, i'm still struggling to get "transcode" to get my avi's to mpeg4 as mp4
[22:15] <neverblue> whabo, its on the Ubuntu CD
[22:16] <FactTech> Professor_K -- Amarok was a little weird for me the first few times I started it up. You might try 'ps aux | grep amar', kill all threads you find there, and try relaunching.
[22:16] <whabo> ill try something out hold on .. thx for the support
[22:16] <georges> gnoift: I usually use mencoder, way faster. no idea about mp4 though. have you tried avidemux?
[22:17] <georges> sonja: never did. I did the reverse. extract all jpg from the pdf. I don't remember what utility it was.
[22:17] <gnoift> georges: no not yet, i've installed it but i don't really like gui's that much as i do most of my admin work via text
[22:18] <georges> gnoift: me too, but for just the occasional video it's great.
[22:18] <obreiroGZ> Buenas a todos. Alguien me puede decir como olvidar la configuracion de una wlan en gutsy? utilizo el network manager
[22:18] <gnoift> Aeleon: i suggest if you setup your vpn or tunnel your traffic over the firewall, do so on port 443 - it never gets monitored and people don't think twice about it
[22:18] <Rohsputina> hello. i wish to install ubuntu to a seperate HDD ( hdb ) as for i have on hda stuff i wish not to change. if i was to install to hdb and then later wish to boot from hda , will the grub appear or the grub only written to the MBR on hdb ?
[22:19] <Aeleon> really, gnoift?
[22:19] <pike_> Rohsputina: it will write to the mbr of the hd it is installed to i believe. so youd need to follow the fixmbr link to write to hda
[22:19] <gnoift> georges: yeah, the ps3 was a real pain in the but the new firmware is just dandy except for the odd files that doesn't have the resolution dividable by 16
[22:19] <pike_> !fixmbr| Rohsputina
[22:19] <ubotu> Rohsputina: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[22:20] <Aeleon> I'll try it out.
[22:20] <Professor_K> FactTech: tried to type your command, still doesn't work...
[22:20] <FactTech> Rohsputina -- Unless you are using a different boot manager, I think you will need to have GRUB on the main hard drive.
[22:20] <gabriel7645> how do you make a script launch every time you log on?
[22:20] <FactTech> Rohsputina -- But I've never tried to set something up like you're describing.
[22:20] <gnoift> Aeleon: yeah, I tunnel EVERYthing over 443. gigs. vi your /etc/ssh/sshd_config file and add "Port 443" underneath "Port 22"
[22:20] <Rohsputina> well i would like to have "2 main hdds"
[22:20] <georges> gnoift: about devede, my mpeg is DVD compliant. will it reencode that or just burn it?
[22:20] <FactTech> Professor_K -- which command?
[22:21] <FactTech> Professor_K -- The 'ps aux' command?
[22:21] <pike_> !startup | gabriel7645
[22:21] <ubotu> gabriel7645: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[22:21] <Rohsputina> one with windows and the other with Ubuntu
[22:21] <georges> gnoift: fount it...
[22:21] <gnoift> Aeleon: then you use putty to point to port 443 instead of 22 - if're you connecting to port 22 the firewall admin will probably know it's not web traffic
[22:21] <Aeleon> i see.
[22:22] <Professor_K> FactTech: yeah
[22:22] <gnoift> georges: not sure, i've always just used it to convert avi's to DVD's.
[22:22] <gabriel7645> ubotu: I would do that except there is no launcher for this script I just created,
[22:22] <jules_winfield> hello all. just reinstalled ubuntu 7.10 i386 and I'm having some trouble getting steam to run via wine
[22:22] <Aeleon> gnoift - does it matter which udp port i use, in the case of this walkthrough you gave me? or can it just be one that's forwarded?
[22:22] <georges> gnoift: has option "file is already compliant PS"
[22:22] <FactTech> Professor_K: 'ps aux | grep amar' should list all processes/threads that may have been spawned and hung when Amarok didn't load.
[22:22] <gnoift> georges: i have a script that i wrote for qdvdauth somewhere if you want to do it that way
[22:22] <jules_winfield> i had it going before, but it's not being very friendly as of right now
[22:23] <FactTech> Professor_K: If you got nothing back (or just one line from your command), then there are no hung processes.
[22:23] <emilio> ubuntu-ni
[22:23] <FactTech> Professor_K: Have you tried launching Amarok more than once?
[22:23] <gnoift> Aeleon, i pretty much do everything over 443
[22:23] <Professor_K> FactTech: the weird thing is that everytime I restard amarok and try to play a file it says that it can't read mp3 and asks if I want to install mp3 support, and if I click yes nothing happens and it still don't work
[22:23] <jahrichie> s
[22:23] <georges> gnoift: hmm, just the thing I used qdvdauthor for is not in devede: create custom chapter breaks in the video file
[22:23] <Ubuntu-fan> lo all
[22:24] <Aeleon> wouldn't i have to forward 443 on my server's router?
[22:24] <Flare183> !hi | Ubuntu-fan
[22:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu-fan: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[22:24] <FactTech> Professor_K: Do you have administrator access to the machine?
[22:24] <gnoift> you can setup a socks server on your pc at home and port forward it to a local port on your vista machine - then you tell your mmo client that you are using a socks server and it will encrypt, forward all your data to the local port, then over 443 to your machine, then out and bacj again overthe same port
[22:24] <jules_winfield> to be more specific, I downloaded the latest .deb from WineHQ and installed steam, wherein everything was perfectly fine. when I try to run the program, however the "connecting to account window" comes up and dissappears as soon as the "install Gecko" dialog pops up
[22:24] <sled> ciao
[22:24] <sled> ho una domanda
[22:24] <jules_winfield> any ideas?
[22:24] <gnoift> georges: i think dvd creates a break ever 5 minutes
[22:24] <Ubuntu-fan> anyone have any experience in checking the security of a wireless network ?
[22:25] <Flare183> !eu
[22:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:25] <Pici> Ubuntu-fan: try ##security or ##networking :)
[22:25] <Professor_K> FactTech: yeah
[22:25] <Flare183> !es
[22:25] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:25] <georges> gnoift: exactly, but I want the breaks at my points.
[22:25] <gnoift> Aeleon: you just tell your router that you want 443 to go to 443 on your lan, 192.168.1.1 or whatever local ip you're using
[22:26] <Aeleon> gnoift: i added the port to my sshd_config, but the network times out. the port isn't forwarded on the router my server's connected to, and I don't have the router's IP. :c
[22:26] <a_s_> Ciao is Italian
[22:26] <FactTech> Professor_K: If you can get the exact text of the error message, there's a good chance you can find a web page where someone else has experienced the same problem.
[22:26] <gnoift> georges: then i am at a loss ... no wait...that script i wrote does that exactly
[22:26] <Aeleon> !it
[22:26] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[22:26] <hammy> Hey i need help with my Skydome, i have 7.10 so...
[22:26] <georges> gnoift: before you send that script... I want a visual interface to define the chapter points. else I can just use todisk
[22:27] <gnoift> aeleon: yeah you need to tell the router that you want it go to your machine on your network otherwise it won't work, but trust me, if they have not figured it out by now they proably never will
[22:27] <Dragon67> hi
[22:27] <Aeleon> haha.
[22:27] <sled> hi
[22:27] <FactTech> !it | sled
[22:27] <ubotu> sled: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[22:27] <Dragon67> i just need help with tftp server
[22:27] <jules_winfield> anyone know much about wine/steam?
[22:27] <Flare183> hammy: try in #compiz-fusion
[22:27] <Dragon67> i have installed but dont know how to run it
[22:27] <FactTech> sled Mi dispiace non parlo italiano molto bene
[22:27] <sled> i have a question: i dloaded a gtk theme from gnome-look, i tried to load it in Themes section under Appearance, but it says format not valid
[22:28] <hammy> Flare183: thanks, i just wanted to know what channel it was in, again thanks a lot
[22:28] <gnoift> georges: i pretty much just used 5,15,20,25 to define the break points in a xml file
[22:28] <Flare183> hammy: no problem
[22:28] <sled> FactTech, no problem i wrote my question above
[22:28] <gnoift> sled: DRAG and DROP it into the gui
[22:28] <sled> what gui?
[22:28] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[22:28] <sled> the one of themes?
[22:28] <BigToe> [22:28:15] <@FC24> what language does Linux tend to be written in?
[22:28] <BigToe> [22:28:17] <@FC24> C++?
[22:28] <georges> gnoift: not useful. so there is a definitve lack on linux for a visual editor to define chapter points. that's so bad
[22:28] <mikeylikesit5805> hi all i have mythtv installed and when iever i go to play a dvd all i can hear is sound, no video, i can play the dvd fine in mplayer so that it what i checked for myth but still no luck does anyone have any idea
[22:28] <IndyGunFreak> Graphical User Interface?
[22:28] <Flare183> sled: means that you have to drag it to the correct hidden folder
[22:28] <sled> .themes ?
[22:28] <Pici> BigToe: ?
[22:29] <Dragon67> please help with tftp
[22:29] <sled> i did it. but i can't see it in themes list.
[22:29] <pike_> mikeylikesit5805: might check in #mytv-users  also
[22:29] <BigToe> someone asked me that question and I wanted an answer from here :P
[22:29] <Flare183> BigToe: what is with the random stuff
[22:29] <gnoift> sled: the normal gui you find under places. open up themes window and drop it from the Places gui you get when you look for files
[22:29] <mikeylikesit5805> thanks pike i will try that
[22:29] <pike_> mikeylikesit5805: er #mythtv-users
[22:29] <cdecarlo> Dragon67: why did you choose tftp?
[22:29] <gnoift> georges: no there is plenty!
[22:30] <georges> gnoift: ok, gimme the list!
[22:30] <nickrud> sled: try the custom button on the themes window, then look at controls. The themes on the front tab is for meta themes, including icon and window boarder
[22:30] <gnoift> georges: I just don't know what they are: I know the ubuntu studio comes with a frikken nice gui you can use
[22:30] <georges> ubuntu studio?
[22:30] <Dragon67> cdecarlo: i have cisco router and want to backup their image
[22:30] <Flare183> !ubuntustudio | georges
[22:30] <ubotu> georges: UbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org
[22:30] <Professor_K> FactTech: it's not really an error message, it says: Amarok currently cannot play MP3 files. and then one button: Install Mp3 support and another: No ...
[22:31] <Dragon67> by image i mean ios
[22:31] <georges> oh, heading towards #ubuntustudio now. thanks for that pointer!
[22:31] <cdecarlo> Dragon67: From what I've learned so far about tftp you don't want to use it to transfers backups of anything
[22:31] <gnoift> georges: sure dude - have fun
[22:31] <sled> no way
[22:31] <gnoift> georges: or girl :-)
[22:31] <sled> nickrud, the problem is that i can not load it
[22:31] <hammy> Dragon67:ISO
[22:31] <cdecarlo> Dragon67: b/c it uses UDP to transfer the data
[22:32] <gnoift> georges: it's a strange name :)
[22:32] <nickrud> Professor_K: system->admin->software sources, make sure the first four are selected.
[22:32] <Dragon67> cdecarlo: in cisco router in order to back up their image i need to have tftp server that is the way that router can communicate with windows or linux
[22:32] <Dragon67> i know about windows but new to linux
[22:32] <Dragon67> cdecarlo: udp 69
[22:32] <georges> gnoift: yep. I'm a guy ...
[22:32] <georges> cu
[22:32] <nickrud> sled: you should try dragging the theme tar ball onto the theme window, that will install it properly
[22:33] <gnoift> PROF: have you heard about AUTOMATIX?
[22:33] <cdecarlo> Dragon67: are you talking about Trivial FTP
[22:33] <sled> nickrud: it is a .tar.gz and it says format invalid. (i tried)
[22:33] <Dragon67> cdecarlo: yes
[22:33] <nickrud> !automatix | gnoift Professor_K (problems usually come at upgrade time)
[22:33] <ubotu> gnoift Professor_K (problems usually come at upgrade time): automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[22:33] <gnoift> sled okay uo need to extract the .gz
[22:33] <hammy> wow no one in the #Compiz-fusion chan. is able to help me, they dont even reply...
[22:33] <nickrud> sled: there you go, probably a bad theme.
[22:33] <PriceChild> !patience | hammy
[22:33] <ubotu> hammy: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[22:34] <cdecarlo> Dragon67: and the only way for the cisco router to communicate with other machines is through tftp?
[22:34] <Dragon67> i have read this article but do not work for me:http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/tftp.htm
[22:34] <cdecarlo> Dragon67: sorry man, I wish I could help but I gotta go
[22:34] <nickrud> sled: you could try  cd ~/.themes && tar xf /path/to/themetarball
[22:35] <Dragon67> cdecarlo: no i dont meant that i mean the only way to get file from cisco router and change their IOS is by tftp as far as i know
[22:35] <jules_winfield> anyone? a little help with wine and steam? pretty please with sugar on top?
[22:35] <hammy> haha PriceChild, ive been there for a while trust me, and i know i was just saying, like can anyone from this chan give me soem help with setting up skydome
[22:35] <sled> ok
[22:35] <Yggdrasil> hello, can somone help me configure an smb server so that it doesnt need a username and pw to connect to a folder i have ?
[22:35] <Dragon67> ok thanks
[22:35] <gnoift> AUTOMATIX adds all the needed repos to your /etc/apt/sources.lists file - i've never ever had a problem with it
[22:35] <nickrud> jules_winfield: begging will get you nowhere, but #winehq probably has the latest info on it
[22:36] <jorik808> how do i disable my trackpad on my laptop? i have a usb mouse
[22:36] <nickrud> jules_winfield: should have added a smiley to that line, it sounds a bit harsh :)
[22:37] <gnoift> Yggdrasil: there is a gui to samba that you can use that will allow guest logins
[22:37] <Yggdrasil> yes.
[22:37] <krim> Does anyone have any experience with running XP in VMware? Will it be really slow with intel core 2 duo e4500 and 2gb ram?
[22:37] <mazen> hi all ... can any1 assist me in setting up my nVidia driver? i've just downloaded the newest release for its official site for Linux x86
[22:37] <Yggdrasil> thanks
[22:37] <nickrud> !synaptics | jorik808
[22:37] <ubotu> jorik808: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[22:37] <Dr_willis_> krim,  it should run fine. Ive ran it decently with much less.
[22:37] <jules_winfield> sorry. i didn't mean it to be.8-)
[22:37] <gnoift> Yggdrasil: but if you read the /etc/samba/smb.conf there is a documented guest login
[22:37] <nickrud> jules_winfield: no, mine was
[22:38] <Dr_willis_> krim,  that box has like 4x the cpu and 2x the ram on the box i was using vmware+xp on. :)
[22:38] <gnoift> krim: a suggestion : why don't you use virtualbox?
[22:38] <javaccen_> hey guys how can i install inetd for ubuntu server?
[22:38] <krim> gnoift: What's better about it?
[22:38] <Draggin> Evening
[22:39] <gnoift> mazen: why do you want to use the newest nvidia driver the one that is in the repos is .19 - which is very fast
[22:39] <Draggin> Can anyone help me get my Ubuntu back to life? I just messed up in trying to prepare for the upgrade to Gutsy
[22:39] <Beelze> krim: i would use virtualsbox too....it´s faster and has more funktions for normal user
[22:39] <jorik808> nickrud, thx
[22:39] <krim> Ok thanks, I'll check out virtualbox
[22:39] <Ph0ebus> Hi room :)
[22:39] <gnoift> krim: well, for one thing it is in the repositories so there will be no extra software installed
[22:40] <Rufus_> http://forum.swiftirc.net/viewtopic.php?t=14683 - POST PLEASE
[22:40] <nickrud> javaccen: sudo aptitude install inetutils-inetd
[22:40] <krim> gnoift: Just read that on Wikipedia, saves me a lot of trouble, thanks :)
[22:40] <gnoift> krim: VIRTUALBOX also has guest additions, just like vmware
[22:41] <Draggin> How do I install a standard nVdiia driver if I can't get into Ubuntu (GUI) at all?
[22:41] <mazen> ok matey gnoift ... i've set up kiba-dock ... and then found the compiz-fusion is not responding
[22:41] <Ph0ebus> krim, you can use Parallels Desktops too ;)
[22:41] <hammy> i have a little problem, ive been trying to fix my skydome for ages and i cant ever get it too, my problem is that when i try to use an image instead of sold colors, it doesnt let me like it says im using the skydome background but it just uses the regular standard colors as a skydome, how do i fix this?
[22:41] <mazen> i cannot use it like something is conflicting
[22:41] <gnoift> draggin: apt-get install nvidia* and check what you need from there any only install those
[22:42] <Draggin> gnoift - how would I know what I need though?
[22:42] <keisangi> is there's a way to select/move multiple entries in gnome menu ? alacarte seems to allow selecting/moving only entries one by one ..
[22:42] <gnoift> draggin: OR BETTER yet use: "apt-cache search nvidia"
[22:42] <gnoift> Draggin: you need nvidia-glx-new
[22:43] <gnoift> Draggin: that should pull in all the dependancies
[22:43] <Draggin> No - nvidia-glx-new is too new - I have a Geforce 4 card
[22:43] <keisangi> i have lots of menu entries to organize .. moving them one by one is slow.. isn't there's a better solution than just alacarte ?
[22:43] <gnoift> mazen: hm? Kiba dock...? I've never worked with that sorry man
[22:43] <Aeleon> ohmigod, how do i sudo with winscp?
[22:43] <IndyGunFreak> Draggin: is Ubuntu actualy installed, or are you trying to runt he Live CD?
[22:43] <gnoift> mazen: are you at least getting a X login?
[22:44] <nickrud> keisangi: heck, a year ago we were begging for something that worked at all :)
[22:44] <gnoift> Draggin: then use nvidia-glx
[22:44] <mazen> X login? i'm new in this matey
[22:44] <gnoift> Draggin: apt-get install nvidia-glx
[22:44] <Draggin> IndyGunFreak - yes, Ubuntu (feisty) is fully installed and was fully functional until I tried fixing stuff to prepare for upgrading to Gutsy from the alternate CD
[22:44] <IndyGunFreak> Draggin: why not just do a clean install?
[22:44] <gnoift> mazen: try "apt-cache search compiz
[22:45] <gnoift> "
[22:45] <Draggin> gnoift - what does apt-cache search nvidia
[22:45] <Draggin> do?
[22:45] <Professor_K> I tried to install those two packages one after the other respectively (libxine-extracodecs, libxine1-ffmpeg) and I got two error message in the terminal (the error messages are here http://pastebin.com/d5149310b) and amarok still refuses to play mp3 files...can somebody help me plz?
[22:45] <Draggin> IndyGunFreak - because I have a crapload of files and programmes running - don't want to reformat everything
[22:45] <mazen> ok gnoift
[22:45] <mazen> i'll try
[22:45] <IndyGunFreak> Draggin: wel, regardless, you'd be wise to make a backup before upgrading, if thats the case..... just in case something goes haywire
[22:46] <jklfdjskl> . /join #youbuntu
[22:46] <gnoift> Draggin: it looks through the ubuntu repositories and finds all the packages that have nvidia as a keyword
[22:46] <nickrud> Professor_K: go to system->admin->software sources , enable the first 4 , disable the cdrom.  In the terminal, run  sudo apt-get update   for luck, then repeat the line you used in the pastebin
[22:46] <gnoift> mazen: why don't you use the online repositories?
[22:46] <Draggin> IndyGunFreak - I did make a backup of the most important stuff and hope I won't lose them anyway, but it should still be less effort upgrading than reformatting
[22:46] <jklfdjskl> when people *TRY* to help but dont know what they're talking about, it HURTS the free software movement!
[22:46] <adub> where can i get a ubuntu matrix theme
[22:46] <IndyGunFreak> Draggin: i guess thats where i disagree, i find clean installing much easier.
[22:47] <Ph0ebus> adub,  on the "gnome art " website ;)
[22:47] <Kibble_> hey all
[22:47] <nickrud> jklfdjskl: then help here, raise the bar
[22:47] <Draggin> IndyGunFreak - dude, how long does that take?  Do you know how many packages I would have to get, reconfigure, etc. etc. all over again...
[22:47] <Kibble_> anyone here have an Nvidia Geforce go 7700?
[22:47] <Aeleon> nickrud, h must not know what he's alking about.
[22:48] <Kibble_> Draggin - i feel the same way
[22:48] <mazen> wt if i ust them? would this problem be sorted out?
[22:48] <Aeleon> draggin
[22:48] <nuno_nunes> HI PPL
[22:48] <Professor_K> nickrud: I already did that..
[22:48] <Draggin> Aeleon?
[22:48] <IndyGunFreak> Draggin: i can setup any of my systems in roughly an hour.. install all packages i use, remove packages I don't, and transfer data from my backup to my install.... then I usually spend about 10-15min setting up programs like xchat, pidgin, etc.
[22:48] <Kibble_> hey nuno
[22:49] <Professor_K> nickrud: in fact I did that before posting in the pastebin
[22:49] <nickrud> Draggin: you have to get them anyway during the upgrade. !clone makes automates replacing any packages you had instaled
[22:49] <Kibble_> indy - teach my whatever tricks you're using to do that
[22:49] <Draggin> IndyGunFreak - I'm rather new to Linux, so all of that will take me about a week :)  That's why I want to upgrade
[22:49] <Aeleon> Draggin: make a list? sometimes a clean reformat puts in perspective what you really need. if you can't be assed to reconfigure them, then, they must not be that important.
[22:49] <nickrud> Professor_K: then something went haywire, since that's the cause of your problem in the pastebin
[22:49] <IndyGunFreak> Kibble_: its not rocket science
[22:49] <gnoift> mazen: it's just better for upgrading i find, you have all the latest software and you don't have to find problems other people have already fixed
[22:49] <nickrud> gah. My grammer sucks this day
[22:50] <Kibble_> and i'm not a rocket scientist
[22:50] <gmoore> i'm thinking of setting up XBMC-linux on my HTPC, which currently runs Vista. i want as few headaches as possible for getting audio/video/etc working, so *before* i commit to wiping my hdd to install an os, i'd like to try a livecd. how hard will it be to get audio (SPDIF output via toslink), video acceleration (onboard intel GMA3100), etc working on an Ubuntu LiveCD?
[22:50] <Professor_K> nickrud: what's haywire: :S is that bad?
[22:50] <nightstalker> Hello
[22:50] <gnoift> i actually met a rocked scientist once :-) a girl!
[22:50] <Aeleon> Draggin: it beats seeing what doesn't upgrade seamlessly and having to uninstall *and* reconfigure.
[22:50] <Aeleon> Draggin: or that might just happen in windows, i'm not sure.
[22:50] <Kibble_> gmoore - RUN
[22:50] <mazen> should i download this thing matey?
[22:50] <nickrud> Professor_K:   gedit /etc/apt/sources.list , put the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org . Nah, you have no errors in that output, all is still good :)
[22:50] <gmoore> Kibble_: uh
[22:50] <gnoift> gmoore: have you had a look at mythtv? Probably.
[22:51] <adub> having trouble finding matrix theme
[22:51] <gmoore> gnoift: yes and xbmc is leaps and bounds beyond it
[22:51] <Aeleon> gnoift, i met a dude one. he wouldn't stop making reference to it.
[22:51] <nickrud> Professor_K: seriously haywire error messages, that is
[22:51] <josiah> whats up guys
[22:51] <IndyGunFreak> i backup all my files(mp3s, videos, office files, etc..).. install, wipe the drive, when its booted, i install all the software i like to use(about 8 programs that aren't with the normal install), then I remove about 5-6 programs that I don't ever use that come w/ a normal install, then i transfer all my files(this takes the longest, about 20-30min) from my 500gig USB drive.. once thast done, i set up my programs and do any updating
[22:51] <IndyGunFreak> thats left.
[22:51] <Draggin> Aeleon - it all makes sense - but it really took me so long to get Feisty up and running properly from scratch that I don't want to sit through all that again.  Plus - I wouldn't even know what to backup - I don't know which files are required etc. and which are just optional
[22:51] <Eagle2160> hello?
[22:51] <Ph0ebus> adub,  --> http://art.gnome.org/search.php?search_text=matrix&search_type=all
[22:51] <omar_> guys how can i check the disk space on ubuntu
[22:51] <IndyGunFreak> Draggin: did you at least take notes?
[22:51] <itch_> Hello guys. Having a little problem here. I`m trying to connect from Ubuntu to a windows share via NFS. So I use this command in the console: sudo mount 192.168.0.1:/XJunk /media/share , where 192.168.0.1 is the ip pf the windows box. All I get is this error: "System Error: Connection refused". Now I know for sure that there is a share on that windows box (I`m siting next to it) and that there is no firewall. Also, the windows box is accessible, since it respon
[22:51] <nickrud> I just keep my home on another partition, even simpler.
[22:52] <Eagle2160> can anyone help me reinstall unbuntu on my computer?
[22:52] <Draggin> IndyGunFreak - notes of what?
[22:52] <Kibble_> Indy - I'm on my first linux learning curve and having to re-install almost every day
[22:52] <pmedia> Hi there
[22:52] <IndyGunFreak> nickrud: i could never adjust to that, don't know why
[22:52] <gnoift> Draggin: then why upgrade at all? :-) If it works, leave it i say except for security patches
[22:52] <Aeleon> of what you did as you were doing it, Draggin.
[22:52] <IndyGunFreak> Draggin: things you done to make things work, etc.
[22:52] <mehiel> \join
[22:52] <mehiel> \join -list
[22:52] <Pirate-King> why won't firefox show up the graph in google finance
[22:52] <Kuroachia> I, hopefully, have a quick question. Does anyone have any suggestions for getting ipod/itunes support using Ubuntu?
[22:52] <Draggin> IndyGunFreak - yeah, saved all the sites and howtos that I used to get things up and running
[22:52] <IndyGunFreak> mehiel: "/join"
[22:52] <adub> that is all backgrounds
[22:52] <Jowi> mehiel, commands start with / not \
[22:52] <adub> i just want a green black theme
[22:52] <mehiel> \join #ubuntu
[22:52] <Eagle2160> can anyone help me reinstall ubuntu?
[22:53] <gnoift> gmoore: just asking never used xbmc before but you'be probably done some research and I'll check it out aswell, ta man
[22:53] <IndyGunFreak> mehiel: for cryin out loud.. "/join #channelname"  no quotes
[22:53] <Ph0ebus> Eagle2160, yes
[22:53] <gnoift> itunes does not work with either wine or crossover
[22:53] <IndyGunFreak> Eagle2160: why do you need to reinstallL?
[22:53] <pmedia> I'd installed Fluxbox on Ubuntu 7.10 Server (Fluxconf, too) and now I wonder why I don't have a menu on rightlclick. I also have installed debian on another machine and there it works well, from beginning. I copied the configurationdata, but nothing happens
[22:53] <jason> hey all
[22:53] <gmoore> gnoift: yes i've used both. xbmc for linux is pretty young still but xbmc period is very old and has some incredible work put into it. it's leaps and bounds better than ANY commercial or open source product, period. it is really excellent, give it a shot
[22:53] <nickrud> Kuroachia: if you have one of the later ipods, like a 3d gen nano, you will have to wait for 8.04 or so. gtkpod.org has the info
[22:53] <IndyGunFreak> use Amarok to sync an ipod, its awesome.
[22:53] <gnoift> you need gtkpod or use amarok to get your ipod working
[22:53] <Pirate-King> why won't firefox show up the graph in google finance
[22:53] <Eagle2160> the install installed incorectly
[22:54] <jason> need to fix this error from gnome desktop runing on xubuntu
[22:54] <jason> OAFIID:Deskbar_Applet
[22:54] <Kibble_> i'm dying with this wierd graphics bug
[22:54] <Kibble_> it's killing me
[22:54] <gnoift> gmoore: thanks man, i will just do that :-)
[22:54] <jmarinis> adub: try http://www.gnome-look.org
[22:54] <IndyGunFreak> dinner time, back in a bit.
[22:54] <Draggin> Let me see what I can manage to do... I'll probably be back real soon :)
[22:54] <Eagle2160> ph0ebus ok so I installed it but the install did not completely install correctly so i need to reinstall it from scratch were is the option to do this?
[22:54] <Kibble_> i'm going to shoot someone and blame it on the linux-nvidia leprechons
[22:54] <Professor_K> nickrud: that's my sources.list : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51597/
[22:55] <adub> jmarinis been there
[22:55] <adub> lol
[22:55] <gnoift> if you have nvidia issues: try ENVY
[22:55] <Ph0ebus> Eagle2160, did you install Ubuntu from LiveCD or from Alternate ?
[22:55] <Odd-rationale> !envy
[22:55] <gnoift> ENVY for nvidia - had never every failed me
[22:55] <Eagle2160> ph0ebus live cd
[22:55] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[22:55] <Jack_Sparrow> gnoift: That is a bad idea..
[22:55] <Kibble_> gnoift - i'm having nvidia issues WITH envy
[22:55] <Bspec> is there a flash player that doesnt use up 50% of my cpu if i say, for example, want to watch a youtube video
[22:55] <jmarinis> adub - did you check out the matrix theme there?
[22:55] <Ph0ebus> Eagle2160, what was the problem when you tried to install ?
[22:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !worksforme
[22:55] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[22:55] <Bspec> i tried gnash, but that was completely bugged out
[22:56] <gnoift> envy works
[22:56] <nickrud> Professor_K: disable the medibuntu.sos-sts.com ones, do the apt-get update and install again
[22:56] <Jack_Sparrow> gnoift: Please do not recommend it to anyone in this channel
[22:56] <Jowi> !envy
[22:56] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[22:56] <Eagle2160> ph0ebus well it said it could not find a network or something and it never ended up finishing the installation
[22:56] <FernandoL> could someone help me get sound working on ubuntu 6.06 dapper?
[22:56] <adub> jmarinis i did not find one
[22:56] <jmarinis> adub: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Yet+Another+Matrix+Emerald+Theme?content=53061
[22:57] <gnoift> Jack_Sparrow: why do you not want to use envy?
[22:57] <Pirate-King> why won't firefox show up the graph in google finance
[22:57] <FernandoL> anyone know how to get sound working on ubuntu 6.06?
[22:57] <Jack_Sparrow> gnoift: Please read what ubotu said.. i is not needed, or supported andit breaks systems
[22:57] <Pirate-King> is that flash
[22:57] <patbam> what's an okay webcam app for ubuntu
[22:57] <Draggin> kay... I'm off to try and salvage the remains of my Ubuntu...
[22:58] <Draggin> See you later...
[22:58] <adub> im guessing i need beryl
[22:58] <Ph0ebus> Eagle2160, you don't need network to install the ubuntu base system ...  you just need network for updates...
[22:58] <Kibble_> Jack_Sparrow - it's broken mine like 15 times
[22:58] <adub> i dont know how to apply that theme
[22:58] <nickrud> gnoift: when you've been around this channel long enough to see all the people come in asking for help after using envy you'll jump on people recommending it too
[22:58] <mazen> gnoifit: my vga is geforce 8 ... gtx 8800
[22:58] <iCEifer> hello, I am having trouble watching streaming ASX videos and I think I have all the codes? can anyone help?
[22:58] <Jowi> gnoift, envy is not supported.
[22:58] <pmedia> nobody wants to help me? :(
[22:58] <gnoift> Jack_Sparrow: It's never ever breaked anything, it's installs a .deb and you can remove that pretty easy
[22:58] <donkdonk> umm, why does the php5 package not install php binary
[22:58] <donkdonk> ?
[22:58] <jmarinis> adub: this is true
[22:59] <Kibble_> pmedia - maybe nobody can
[22:59] <adub> can i apt-get it
[22:59] <gnoift> Well okay, I'm just saying it automates a lot of work for people that don't know anything about unix
[22:59] <Kibble_> Jowi - what is then?
[22:59] <nospoon> I'm having issues w/ flash in firefox on amd64.  I can't see youtube :(.  I installed the non free plugin w/ synaptics and from within firefox, and I ran nspluginwrapper -v -a -i and no luck
[22:59] <mazen> from envoy... should i update it to 100.14.23 or other one?
[22:59] <Eagle2160> ph0ebus yes i realize that its just the installer never finished completely so i need to reinstall the whole thing is there a way to do this? i would just go back to my windows but everything got screwed up and windows got erased and i dont know how to put windows back on so i need to get ubuntu working
[22:59] <Jack_Sparrow> gnoift: Sorry but it is not up for debate..  Feel free to ask about it or discuss it in #Ubuntu-offtopic
[22:59] <Jowi> Kibble_, about 2000 packages.
[22:59] <FernandoL> Can anyone help me set up my sound? I've tried the ubuntu site on sound issues but that doesn't work, ubuntu doesn't recognize my sound card, which I dont know what it is at all, and I think it's built in. I'm on a laptop by the way. Are there any packages or links that someone can provide me?
[23:00] <pmedia> kibble_: that couldn't be, that I don't find on Google something, and in all supportchannels. Should I change to Debian, completely?
[23:00] <jmarinis> adub: what release are you on?
[23:00] <Kibble_> Jowi - and who's the address for support?
[23:00] <adub> 7.10
[23:00] <Aeleon> I'm using winscp for a sftp to my ubuntu box, yeah, but I need to access a folder that I need to sudo. .. I don't know how to do that in the GUI. Anybody?
[23:00] <Jowi> !support | Kibble_
[23:00] <ubotu> Kibble_: the official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org
[23:00] <mazen> that's the nature of life gnoift ... not all know everything :D
[23:01] <Kibble_> well then, I'm in ubuntu, looking for support, and where the @#$$ is it?
[23:01] <adub> jmarinis i am on 7.10
[23:01] <patbam> what's an okay webcam app for ubuntu for filming video
[23:01] <Flare183> !find webcam
[23:01] <ubotu> Found: webcam, webcam-server, webcamd
[23:01] <Flare183> !webcam
[23:01] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[23:02] <patbam> Flare183: thanks.
[23:02] <gnoift> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, sure. Let's not talk about envy anymore. There are easier ways to get nvidia working.
[23:02] <Flare183> np
[23:02] <Kibble_> !nvidia
[23:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[23:02] <Jowi> Kibble_, we would not say this if there was no point of it. automatix/envy has, in our *experience* broke systems quite badly.
[23:02] <Kibble_> Jowi - that's alot lamer than offering a viable, tested, solution
[23:02] <Jowi> Kibble_, nothing against you, or your experience.
[23:02] <Ph0ebus> Eagle2160, come in pm ;)
[23:02] <PriceChild> !offtopic | Jowi Kibble_
[23:02] <ubotu> Jowi Kibble_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:03] <Kibble_> which i'm desperately looking for
[23:03] <gnoift> Jowi, just q, how has it broken systems that you're aware of?
[23:03] <jmarinis> adub: haven't installed it on 7.10 myself.  looks like there a a few walk throughs aroung though
[23:03] <PriceChild> !offtopic > gnoift
[23:03] <Eagle2160> ph0ebus I am but i am using mirc, i dont know if you are using mirc but if you are not then pm wont work do you have something else like aim or msn?
[23:03] <Jowi> sorry, gnoift. PriceChild is king :)
[23:04] <donkdonk> just ran apt-get install php5. this didnt install php. what am i doing wrong?
[23:04] <jmarinis> adub: http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=591580
[23:04] <Kibble_> !nvidia
[23:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[23:04] <Jowi> does anyone experience tty1 lockups (like lag in key presses) while using screen in other tty?
[23:04] <nickrud> donkdonk: if you mean you can't run it on the command line, you also need to install php5-cli
[23:04] <Ragnaroek> yo
[23:05] <Ph0ebus> Eagle2160, did you received my notice ?
[23:05] <gnoift> sure, pricechild and jowi. no problem
[23:05] <Eagle2160> ph0ebus no i did not
[23:05] <Torago> m
[23:05] <donkdonk> nickrud: well, its for webpages
[23:05] <francesco> Hello, guys. I have a problem. When I restart my PC in recovery mode, the person who uses the computer, automatically, has root rights. How can I avoid this?
[23:05] <Cromag> !init1
[23:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about init1 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:05] <nickrud> donkdonk: heh. I kept getting that in firefox, kept telling me to download the file. I did, and firefox started working properly
[23:06] <Cromag> !init
[23:06] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[23:06] <Eagle2160> Ph0ebus if we are usuing different clients it will not work do you have aim or msn?
[23:06] <mazen> gnoift... i'm trying envy now
[23:06] <Jowi> Most of times, while having used screen on tty2 extensively, tty1 does not respond well. exiting tty1 session does not solve the issue. anyone has the same prob?
[23:06] <donkdonk> centos makes such a better server...
[23:06] <francesco> Hello, guys. I have a problem. When I restart my PC in recovery mode, the person who uses the computer, automatically, has root rights. How can I avoid this?
[23:06] <Ph0ebus> Eagle2160, I've sent my msn adress on notice but you have not received it. Notice me your msn adress pls
[23:06] <gnoift> mazen: hm.. you might not what to do that from what i hear around here. it's worked for me. i hope it does not break what you have
[23:07] <Jowi> francesco, recovery = root console.
[23:07] <Flare183> francesco: duh it's supposed to
[23:07] <gnoift> mazen: does apt-get install nvidia-glx not work for you?
[23:07] <nickrud> francesco: if you're concerned about someone having root access to your machine while at the keyboard, you should use a bios password and put a lock on the case. If they can boot or access the hard drive having recovery mode unprotected is irrelevant
[23:07] <Jowi> francesco, you can remove the recovery option from the grub menu.
[23:07] <Eagle2160> Ph0ebus I did but obviously you are not recieveing it
[23:08] <francesco> How can I remove the recovery option?
[23:08] <mazen> i'm checking matey now
[23:08] <Ph0ebus> Eagle2160, I've not received ... :(
[23:08] <mazen> still downloading its files ... not seen anything yet
[23:08] <gnoift> francesco, you can edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file and remove the 5 lines or so that refer to the recovery option: don't delete them just comment them out
[23:09] <Eagle2160> ph0ebus what client are you using to talk right now?
[23:09] <ChrisGibbs> Anyone had experience with dmraid, initramfs and grub and can lend me a hand...... 3+ days of pulling my hair out now :(
[23:09] <Ph0ebus> Eagle2160, I'm using Xchat
[23:09] <Zsan> Hey guys. What's the best emthod of getting a graphical installer when I have a new nVidia card (8800GT) which doesn't like the usual installer? (Doesn't start x)
[23:09] <gnoift> francesco, but it makes no difference cause you can still hit 3 when you're booting and put a 1 on the command line to boot into single
[23:09] <khelll> how shall i write in ntfs drive
[23:09] <ArthurArchnix> francesco: Like nikrud says, if your data is unencrypted neither root password, grub entry or bios will help. Someone could remove your hard-drive, plug it into a different system and have full access. To increase security, change your bios so that hard-drive boots first, and put a password on bios. Then add a password to grub as well. That's about as good as you can do minus a fully encrypted system.
[23:09] <Jowi> francesco, see /boot/grub/menu.lst. there is a line that say # altoptions=(recovery mode) single. see !grub for more info
[23:09] <gnoift> francesco, sorry, hit 1 that is
[23:09] <ChrisGibbs> !info ntfs | khelll
[23:09] <ubotu> khelll: Package ntfs does not exist in gutsy
[23:09] <Eagle2160> ph0ebus ok hold on 1 second
[23:10] <ChrisGibbs> !ntfs | khelll
[23:10] <ubotu> khelll: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[23:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs-3g
[23:10] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[23:10] <Kibble_> my computer's going ballistic. linux is thrashing the life out of my gpu, and who has the firehydrant?!
[23:10] <Ph0ebus> Eagle2160, I'm inviting you on an other room ;)
[23:10] <T1m0thy> Can you install Linux on a GUID Partition Table?
[23:10] <Jowi> 'night everyone. have a nice week-end.
[23:10] <nickrud> francesco: find #alternative=true and change it to #alternative=false in /boot/grub/menu.lst , then run sudo update-grub . This will make sure you don't get the recovery option back with a kernel upgrade
[23:10] <Kibble_> :)
[23:10] <francesco> Guys, the problem is that I don't want the other users to read/manipulate my data.
[23:10] <Eagle2160> ph0ebus ok
[23:11] <francesco> Is there a document I could read about GRUB to learn how to set GRUB?
[23:11] <ArthurArchnix> francesco: Change bios so that someone can't pop a livecd into your drive and read it. Add a grub password so that someone can't hit esc and choose to boot into recovery mode.
[23:11] <nickrud> francesco: use a bios password. lock the case. If they can boot a cd or get to your hard drive, they can get your data
[23:11] <Flare183> !grub | francesco
[23:11] <ubotu> francesco: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[23:11] <Ph0ebus> Eagle2160, I'm trying to invite you on "azerty" room , but I think you don't receive ....
[23:12] <Eagle2160> ph0ebus you are correct this is because we are using different clients hold on i have downloaded x chat how do i connect?
[23:13] <francesco> No, the point is that the other users can/must login as their own username, but mustn't access the other users' data.
[23:13] <nickrud> francesco: but either Jowi's or mine suggestion will disable the recovery mode during boot
[23:13] <Inespertissimo> ciau a tutti
[23:13] <Inespertissimo> ho un prob con la configurazione della scheda wireless
[23:13] <Ph0ebus> Eagle2160, try to connect to  irc.freenode.net : 6667
[23:13] <francesco> nickrud: Ok, I'll take a look.
[23:13] <tacone> francesco: which kind of data they should not read ?
[23:13] <MrObvious> Eagle2160: Load it up, on the server tab type /server irc.freenode.net and when it connects type /join #azerty
[23:13] <El_toni> Inespertissimo, le premesse ci sono
[23:14] <mazen> gnoift: i'm gonna restart my machine now ... brb :)
[23:14] <nickrud> francesco: and one more thing, everyone can read everyone
[23:14] <francesco> tacone: Private data.
[23:14] <nickrud> s home dir
[23:14] <Ph0ebus> Thanks MrObvious  ;)
[23:14] <MrObvious> !french | El_toni
[23:14] <ubotu> El_toni: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[23:14] <Tyczek> Translation (fr|en):
[23:14] <MrObvious> Ph0ebus: YW.
[23:14] <tacone> Inespertissimo: this is an english channell, please use english or join #ubuntu-it
[23:14] <gnoift> mazen: good luck dude
[23:14] <francesco> nickrud: No, if the directory in which the data is is private. Right?
[23:14] <tacone> francesco: private data in the home directory ?
[23:14] <El_toni> sorry, i mixed the tab order
[23:14] <nickrud> francesco: if it's not readable by others, true. But by default the home dirs can be read by anyone
[23:15] <T1m0thy> Can you install Linux on a GUID Partition Table?
[23:15] <donkdonk> so apt-get install php5 doesnt really do anything?
[23:15] <Kibble_> you must be kidding nickrud
[23:15] <primanox007> HELP! I'm a newbie and my daughter got rid of my lauch bar at the top of my desktop and I don't know how to get it back!!!
[23:15] <francesco> nickrud: If the user accesses as root, he can read everything. Right?
[23:15] <MrObvious> francesco:  You can always add a . to the front of the file or folder name and it becomes hidden. I'm not sure if nickrud means this but this is possible.
[23:15] <Eagle2160> ph0ebus how exactly do i do that on x chat?
[23:15] <gnoift> Kiubble_: the default permissions are r for 'others'.
[23:15] <nickrud> francesco: yes.
[23:16] <nickrud> Kibble_: sure do, create a new user and try looking at his files
[23:16] <MrObvious> :D
[23:16] <chuy_max> hi, I get "The Composite extension is not available" when going to Desktop Effects under System -> Preferences, any idea on how to solve the issue?, direct rendering and proper drivers are installed
[23:16] <francesco> Then, the point is remove recovery mode. Right?
[23:16] <tacone> francesco: right, but they should NOT know the root password
[23:16] <Ph0ebus> Eagle2160: Load it up, on the server tab type /server irc.freenode.net and when it connects type /join #azerty
[23:16] <nickrud> MrObvious: no, he'll be able to read those as well
[23:16] <MrObvious> chuy_max: What video card?
[23:16] <tacone> francesco: they could use a recovery cd
[23:16] <MrObvious> nickrud: Just thought I'd throw that out as well. :p
[23:16] <Draggin> Me again - how do I enable my networking from the command line?  When I boot up, I can't install my nVidia drivers and things because I don't seem to have network connectivity
[23:16] <Eagle2160> ph0ebus it can not connect to irc.ffreenide.net
[23:16] <gnoift> chuy_max: have you loaded the glx module in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[23:16] <chuy_max> MrObvious, ATI Radeon X700
[23:17] <chuy_max> gnoift, nope, maybe that was the problem
[23:17] <francesco> tacone: Yes. That's another problem. :)
[23:17] <MrObvious> chuy_max: Ahh, ATis are a pain to get to work.
[23:17] <tacone> francesco: or a live distro such as knoppix, puppylinux etc.
[23:17] <primanox007> HELP! I'm a newbie and my daughter got rid of my lauch bar at the top of my desktop and I don't know how to get it back!!!
[23:17] <Ph0ebus> Eagle2160, it's " irc.freenode.net "
[23:17] <gnoift> Draggin: /etc/init.d/networking start
[23:17] <tacone> francesco: a safe computer, is a shutted-down-computer
[23:17] <Eagle2160> ph0ebus haha im sorry that is what i meant to type
[23:17] <MrObvious> /server irc.freenode.net
[23:17] <tacone> francesco: you could consider some kind of encryption
[23:17] <MrObvious> /join #roomname
[23:17] <Draggin> gnoift - that's it?  That's the same as selecting the networking icon in the GUI and choosing 'Wire Network'?
[23:18] <ArthurArchnix> francesco: When you turn on the computer you don't want anyone without authorization to be able to divert the system. If they can divert the system from the normal boot-up then they can read your data. Either with a livecd or with booting into recovery mode. First step is to prevent those things from happening. Set a bios password. Change the bios boot order so that hard-drive boots first. That eliminates live cd. Then set a passwo
[23:18] <nickrud> francesco: ultimately anyone who has physical access to the machine can do anything to it. Just a sad fact
[23:18] <Eagle2160> ph0ebus it says it can not find the server
[23:18] <Kibble_> on all files, gnoift?
[23:18] <gnoift> Draggin: yeah, that doesn't work for you?
[23:18] <MrObvious> A BIOS password is only good if people don't reset the CMOS. lol
[23:18] <chuy_max> gnoift, I checked it and changed composite to 1, I'm restarting X
[23:18] <Ph0ebus> Eagle2160,  try to ping irc.freenode.net
[23:18] <MrObvious> But it's a good measure.
[23:18] <tacone> there are also backdoors in older bioses
[23:18] <ArthurArchnix> MrObvious: Full disk encryption is the only choice for the truly paranoid.
[23:19] <gnoift> Kibble_: yes, far as i can see
[23:19] <neverblue> primanox007, sure, it was your 'daughter'
[23:19]  * ArthurArchnix is running full disk encryption :)
[23:19] <Draggin> gnoift - dunno, will have to try that. Do I type out that whole path just like that or do I switch to the folder and then execute 'start'?
[23:19] <MrObvious> ArthurArchnix: Lol. What do you use to run that?
[23:19] <primanox007> Hello? I'm running Ubuntu fiesty fawn (gnome) and my daughter got rid of my lauch bar (top of screen) and I don't know how to get it back
[23:19] <francesco> nickrud: But, if I set a password, the other users can't access the system.
[23:19] <gnoift> DRaggin: sudo /etc/init.d/networking start
[23:19] <ArthurArchnix> MrObvious: It's a default install option when using 7.1 alternate cd.
[23:19] <Kibble_> what are you talking about tacone?
[23:19] <Draggin> gnoift - thanks :) I'll try that
[23:19] <tacone> francesco: you could find some encrypted filesystem
[23:19] <Odd-rationale> primanox007: did you try adding a new panel?
[23:19] <tacone> francesco: http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems
[23:20] <Dr_willis_> primanox007,  you can right click on the buttom panel in the PROPER place and get a 'New Panel' menu item.
[23:20] <chuy_max> gnoift, I did it but I get the same, glx is loaded, I didn't change anything, any ideas?
[23:20] <MrObvious> ArthurArchnix: If I was paranoid about data I would encrypt the data I needed encrypted.
[23:20] <Dr_willis_> primanox007,  but clicking on the proper place can be a little hard if the panel is full of stuff. :)
[23:20] <chuy_max> gnoift, I changed composite under extensions to 1 only
[23:20] <neverblue> primanox007, add a panel from a current panel
[23:20] <francesco> Guys, although I encrypt the system, the other users could delete my data, right?
[23:20] <gnoift> chuy_max: hang on a second let me check
[23:20] <neverblue> primanox007, make sure you lock the panel this time :)
[23:20] <iCEifer> anyone know how to play asx video files with ubuntu?
[23:21] <MrObvious> iCEifer: What Windows program plays ASX?
[23:21] <gnoift> chuy_max: did you add the following?
[23:21] <tacone> Kibble_: http://www.google.com/search?q=bios+password+backdoor
[23:21] <Lokii-> hello
[23:21] <Eagle2160> ph0ebus it is not working
[23:21] <gnoift> chuy_max: Section "Module"
[23:21] <iCEifer> MrObvious, windows media player
[23:21] <tacone> francesco: yes, if they enter recovery mode
[23:21] <gnoift> chuy_max: Load "glx"
[23:21] <ArthurArchnix> !hello | lokii
[23:21] <ubotu> lokii: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[23:21] <Flare183> !hi | Lokii-
[23:21] <ubotu> Lokii-: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[23:21] <gnoift> chuy_max: EndSection
[23:21] <damaltor_> can anyone tell me if "doing something for a living" is like "doing something for earning money"? im german, want to have that confirmed...
[23:21] <gnoift> chuy_max: ?
[23:21] <Lokii-> i was wondering if anyone here has had any experience with installing the realtek alsa HD audio drivers
[23:21] <MrObvious> iCEifer: Try http://vntutor.blogspot.com/2008/01/how-to-play-asx-files-under-firefox.html
[23:21] <MrObvious> lol
[23:22] <spencer70> does anyone know why my ubuntu has been running slowly lately and graphics have been choppy
[23:22] <nickrud> francesco: Remove the recovery mode, but be prepared to have to jump thru some hoops if you need to fix something critical. change the umask in /etc/profile to 026 , that way any files a user creates will not be readable by others. Those two things will give you essentially what you want, unless a cracker takes a whack at it
[23:22] <MrObvious> iCEifer: I literally typed in Google play asx linux
[23:22] <chuy_max> gnoift, I didn't add it, it was already there
[23:22] <MrObvious> spencer70: How much are you swapping?
[23:22] <nickrud> damageboy: yes
[23:22] <Flare183> !away | Johnny_5
[23:22] <ubotu> Johnny_5: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntunel - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also !Guidelines
[23:22] <tacone> francesco: are you sure you need so much security ?
[23:22] <primanox007> what is a button panel?
[23:22] <nickrud> damaltor_: in us english, yes
[23:22] <francesco> tacone: I have Windows installed in my PC too. If I uninstall it, must still I have GRUB?
[23:22]  * primanox007 is a NEWBIE
[23:22] <damaltor_> nickrud: thank you
[23:22] <gnoift> chuy_max: sorry, what exactly is the error message?
[23:22] <Odd-rationale> primanox007: bottom
[23:22] <pavan> hi all.. i am having problem with getting my mic working.. any ideas...what i can fix it
[23:22] <Lokii-> ArthurArchnix: have you ever had to install the realtek alsa drivers ?
[23:22] <MrObvious> spencer70: Which graphics driver are you using? It may have reverted to something stock if you installed the NVidia drivers.
[23:23] <Johnny_5> oh...sorry
[23:23] <neverblue> primanox007, try a few of them out, u wont break anything, just learn about it :)
[23:23] <Flare183> np
[23:23] <chuy_max> gnoift, "The composite extension is not available"
[23:23] <spencer70> MrObvious  my linux swap is 1.4 gb
[23:23] <gnoift> chuy_max: aaah
[23:23] <MrObvious> spencer70: Are you using that any? That could have something to do with it.
[23:23] <ArthurArchnix> nikrud: Can't you just enter grub, choose 'e' on the default choice, then boot into su mode anyway by editing the kernel parameters?
[23:23] <Ph0ebus> Eagle2160,  I can not type on your keyboard in your place ;)
[23:23] <gnoift> chuy_max: add Option         "AddARGBVisuals" "True"
[23:23] <Eagle2160> ph0ebus it is not working! do you have aim?
[23:23] <pavan> nickrud can you help me with a problems of not working mic.. please
[23:23] <tacone> francesco: I installed ubuntu yesterday formatting everything (the previous os was redhat) and still have grub
[23:23] <spencer70> mrobvious what do you mean am i using that
[23:23] <gnoift> chuy_max: and add Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
[23:24] <mikeylikesit5805> has any been able to get dvd playback to work with a ati mobility radeon 7500
[23:24] <crdlb> ugh
[23:24] <Lokii-> i was wondering if anyone here has had any experience with installing the realtek alsa HD audio drivers
[23:24] <gnoift> chuy_max: to the device section
[23:24] <crdlb> chuy_max: you need to install xserver-xgl
[23:24] <chuy_max> gnoift, let me try that
[23:24] <majikins> hi anyone know how I can bring up that utility when I first installed ubuntu that allows you disk partition?
[23:24] <tacone> francesco: why do you need that ? hiding porno movies ? :-)
[23:24] <nickrud> pavan: I don't have a mic , never tried to get them working before. I see a lot of people asking for help on it, but don't know enough to help. sorry
[23:24] <chuy_max> crdlb, that package is already installed
[23:24] <crdlb> gnoift: no, that's for nvidia
[23:24] <Ph0ebus> Eagle2160, are you running windows ?
[23:24] <MrObvious> spencer70: I mean when you look at the command free, how many MB are being used by your swap?
[23:24] <crdlb> chuy_max: then you need to log out
[23:24] <QDawg> tacone: GRUB is stored on the the first part of the drive
[23:24] <happy1> is there a command to remount all drives that were mounted at startup?
[23:24] <Flare183> !offtopic
[23:24] <pavan> nickrud thx
[23:24] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:24] <gnoift> crdlb: oh my bad then
[23:24] <Eagle2160> ph0ebus right now yes i am on my laptop with vista =(
[23:24] <MrObvious> Swap:      6072528          0    6072528
[23:24] <spencer70> mrobvious i dont know how to check
[23:24] <QDawg> tacone: you can reinstall the windows bootloader, but formatting won't do it
[23:25] <MrObvious> spencer70: Load a terminal and type the command free.
[23:25] <krim> I installed VirtualBox but when I choose to start it it tells me "VirtualBox kernel driver not installed. The vboxdrv kernel module was either not loaded or /dev/vboxdrv was not created for some reason. Re-setup the kernel module by executing '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' as root." Anyone know what's up?
[23:25] <Jack_Sparrow> majikins: gparted... you can get it with apt-get or synaptic
[23:25] <francesco> tacone: Maybe :)
[23:25] <chuy_max> crdlb, I restarted xserver, CTRL ALT BACKSPACE, do I need to restart any other service?
[23:25] <tacone> QDawg: it's francesco the one in need of help.
[23:25] <gnoift> happy1: mount -a
[23:25] <Ph0ebus> Eagle2160,  try to connect to 216.165.191.52 insteed of irc.freenode.net
[23:25] <majikins> does that need xserver? or can I run it from cli?
[23:25] <MrObvious> krim: It tells you to do a sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[23:25] <Odd-rationale> krim: What kernel are you using? the real time? (ubuntu studio)
[23:25] <maybeway36> majikins: needs xserver, sorry
[23:25] <tacone> francesco: have you considered having a second machine somewhere ?
[23:25] <spencer70> mrobvious              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[23:25] <spencer70> Mem:       1027504     991908      35596          0       8268     541156
[23:25] <crdlb> chuy_max: what does 'xvinfo | grep Xgl' say?
[23:25] <spencer70> -/+ buffers/cache:     442484     585020
[23:25] <spencer70> Swap:      1373548      34812    1338736
[23:25] <maybeway36> there is a live cd of it though, and it is included with knopppix
[23:25] <gnoift> happy1 but that will only mount what's missing
[23:25] <Flare183> !paste | spencer70
[23:26] <ubotu> spencer70: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[23:26] <Flare183> oh boy
[23:26] <krim> Odd-rationale: I'm using Ubuntu 7.10 64 bit. So whichever is in that :)
[23:26] <iCEifer> MrObvious, that works for audio but any ideas on video? can you play http://apex.eng.usf.edu/sample/sample.asx
[23:26] <QDawg> tacone: i realize that, but you were talking about your reinstallation
[23:26] <krim> MrObvious: I'll try that.
[23:26] <tacone> francesco: put the machine in another door, mount some samba shares, and lock the door.
[23:26] <primanox007> OK... I got a new panel. How can I move the "menu bar" to the far left of the panel?
[23:26] <chuy_max> crdlb, nothing
[23:26] <Lokii-> i was wondering if anyone here has had any experience with installing the realtek alsa HD audio drivers
[23:26] <tacone> QDawg: thanks. :-)
[23:26] <El_toni> i have some trouble with initrd and my fixed dsdt.aml,  someone hears something about?
[23:26] <Odd-rationale> primanox007: right-click --> move
[23:26] <MrObvious> iCEifer: Dunno. Keep using Google with what I typed in
[23:26] <Flare183> !repeat | Lokii-
[23:26] <ubotu> Lokii-: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[23:26] <majikins> I haven't installed xserver and prefer not to - so the utility when installing was gparted>\
[23:26] <francesco> tacone: The point is that if I 'hide' my data in my home directory, and then someone can simply access them turning on the pc in recovery mode, it's useless.
[23:26] <majikins> ?
[23:26] <Dr_willis_> primanox007,  right click. be sure its unlocked. Move it :)
[23:26] <tacone> francesco: also put lasers, and dogs to guard the room :)
[23:26] <crdlb> chuy_max: are you sure you have 'xserver-xgl' installed?
[23:26] <QDawg> tacone: and i was telling you why the reformat wouldn't erase grub
[23:26] <MrObvious> spencer70: There you go, you're using almost all your swap. That's where your performance is going.
[23:26] <Lokii-> !atience
[23:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about atience - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:27] <crdlb> chuy_max: if you do, then log out and log back in
[23:27] <Lokii-> !patience
[23:27] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[23:27] <Eagle2160> ph0ebus ok this is obviously not working I do not have time to waste can we figure something out please?
[23:27] <chuy_max> crdlb, xserver-xgl is already the newest version.
[23:27] <Lokii-> lol
[23:27] <Kibble_> my problem is with compiz-config
[23:27] <tacone> francesco: you cannot prevent people to delete that data. but you can encrypt that
[23:27] <chuy_max> crdlb, ok, Im restarting the PC, I already logged out when I killed xserver
[23:27] <krim> MrObvious: I only get "* Usage: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv {start|stop|restart|status}
[23:27] <Flare183> !compiz | Kibble_
[23:27] <primanox007> NO NO NO
[23:27] <crdlb> chuy_max: this is gutsy right?
[23:27] <Odd-rationale> krim: OK, well I had that problem with the real time kernel. I don't beleive the 64 bit uses rt.
[23:27] <spencer70> MrObvious Should i make my swap bigger?
[23:27] <chuy_max> crdlb, feisty
[23:27] <happy1> gnoift:  didn't work
[23:27] <tacone> francesco: and backup that data to a remote location regularly
[23:27] <crdlb> oh :/
[23:27] <crdlb> chuy_max: you need to set it up manually then
[23:27] <MrObvious> spencer70: Close some programs that are using swap or buy more RAM.
[23:27] <ubotu> Kibble_: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[23:27] <happy1> gnoift: (it didn't remount anything)
[23:27] <gnoift> happy1: are you just trying to mount something you've unmounted?
[23:28] <chuy_max> crdlb, and how is that?
[23:28] <tacone> francesco: if your data it's so important you're not likely to loose it for an hard disk failure as well
[23:28] <primanox007> I mean the ubuntu icon with all the applications attatched to it. How do you move that (within the panel) to the far left?
[23:28] <QDawg> tacone: haha, it really does sound like he doesn't want to loose a porno stash or something along those lines
[23:28] <MrObvious> spencer70: If you wanna see which are using the most swap type the command top, then hit Shift+F then hit N
[23:28] <crdlb> chuy_max: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl follow Method A from that guide
[23:28] <tacone> QDawg: I am a prophet ;-)
[23:28] <Eagle2160> ph0ebus do you have aim??
[23:28] <JRU909> I've been trying to install ubuntu on an older pc with 256 ram, p2, I have an alternate cd, but I can't figure out how to enter expert mode
[23:28] <spencer70> MrObvious it has been fine before yesterday, i have a gig of ram
[23:28] <nickrud> francesco: you just want to let other people share this machine, and get basic privacy for each, right?
[23:28] <MrObvious> spencer70: Err don't hit N, hit P
[23:28] <krim> MrObvious: I changed setup to start and it said it started the kernel module but still no luck
[23:28] <Ph0ebus> Eagle2160,  type  /join #azerty
[23:28] <Dante123> Hi all, trying to get COD (under wine) to work with Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000].  Any suggestions?
[23:28] <Odd-rationale> primanox007: right-click and unlock it, then right-click then move. then move your mouse over to the left.
[23:29] <Flare183> JRU909: try xubuntu it's  better for slower computers
[23:29] <QDawg> tacone: yea, what a shame if he had nothing to fap to, right? ;)
[23:29] <GIRL_-_-> My Profile!! [23:29] <francesco> nickrud: I think I'll take recovery mode option from GRUB and use a live CD if something goes wrong.
[23:29] <gnoift> happy1: do the following:
[23:29] <Odd-rationale> krim: Are you using the OSE?
[23:29] <MrObvious>  5277 root      15   0  841m  58m 9640 R    1  2.9   3:25.00 783m Xorg
[23:29] <MrObvious>  5980 paul      15   0  355m 165m  26m S   13  8.2  11:40.72 189m firefox-bin
[23:29] <Flare183> !spam | GIRL_-_-
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[23:29] <francesco> 'take off'
[23:29] <Flare183> !paste | MrObvious
[23:29] <JRU909> Ok, but could someone tell me about using expert mode on the alt. cd?
[23:29] <ubotu> MrObvious: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[23:29] <gnoift> happy1: mount -o remount /whateverismountedthatyouwanttoremount
[23:29] <krim> Odd-rationale: What's that?
[23:29] <GIRL_-_-> My Profile!! [23:29] <MrObvious> Flare183: It's only two lines. Sheesh.
[23:29] <donkdonk> wow i hate ubuntu! i have a php script /var/www/index.php and that works but the php script /var/www/other/index.php causes the browser to download the source
[23:29] <Aeleon> wait, why can't i sudo cd /[anydirectory]/?
[23:29] <Odd-rationale> krim: The Open Source Edition of vbox.
[23:29] <primanox007> THANK YOU!
[23:29] <nickrud> francesco: and if you have more than one user on the machine, just make that umask 026 change in /etc/profile, for practical purposes it will give them some privacy
[23:29] <Flare183> LjL: thanks
[23:29] <MrObvious> Flare183: Usually for 3 lines or more I use Pastebin.
[23:29] <tacone> QDawg: fap = ?
[23:29] <Dante123> Hi all, trying to get COD (under wine) to work with Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000].  Any suggestions?
[23:30] <Flare183> MrObvious: so... get use to it
[23:30] <krim> Odd-rationale: Yeah, I got it through aptitude install virtualbox
[23:30] <MrObvious> spencer70: As you can see I'm using Xorg and Firefox taking up the most room in my swap (which is none)
[23:30] <QDawg> tacone: to "jack off" to
[23:30] <LjL> Aeleon: wha?! why would you use sudo to change directory?
[23:30] <tacone> :-)
[23:30] <MrObvious> krim: Sorry I don't remember what your problem is but I must leave.
[23:30] <gnoift> Aeleon: that won't work if you want to cd and work as route do sudo bash
[23:30] <Eagle2160> ph0ebus i am not connected to a network it will do nothing
[23:30] <MrObvious> krim: Maybe someone else will have a suggestion. ;)
[23:30] <MrObvious> Bye all. :D
[23:30] <krim> MrObvious: Thanks for the help anyway. Bye!
[23:30] <Dante123> Hi all, trying to get COD (under wine) to work with Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000].  Any suggestions?
[23:30] <Aeleon> because i can't get into my keys directory.
[23:30] <LjL> gnoift, Aeleon: not sudo bash, please... sudo -i if anything
[23:30] <Flare183> the mess using sudo to change dirs?
[23:31] <tacone> donkdonk: paste the script in a pastebin and contact me privately
[23:31] <tcm_> gnoift: sudo su
[23:31] <Aeleon> whenever it says "permissoin denied", i try sudoing.
[23:31] <LjL> sigh
[23:31] <majikins> anyone know what is the program that allows you to manipulate your disks? its the one that comes with ubuntu install where u don't need xserver
[23:31] <Flare183> oh blarg
[23:31] <Odd-rationale> krim: was your error message similar to mine? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=625975 Try using the standard edition available on the vbox website.
[23:31] <Jack_Sparrow> QDawg: Can you try and keep this family friendly please
[23:31] <LjL> who's got the next wicked sudo -i variant?
[23:31] <Aeleon> but isn't sudo -i really scary?
[23:31] <Dante123> Hi all, trying to get COD (under wine) to work with Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000].  Any suggestions?
[23:31] <nickrud> LjL: do you mean sudo -s , the really scary one
[23:31] <Professor_K> nickrud: ok i finally managed to install the codec/plugin thing and now it works perfectely, thanks a lot
[23:31] <nickrud> Professor_K: yw
[23:32] <Ph0ebus> Eagle2160,  I can't help you in that your .... we have to speak in private ;)
[23:32] <Flare183> !coc | QDawg
[23:32] <ubotu> QDawg: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[23:32] <JRU909> I'm trying to install ubuntu on old computer, Flare has told me to try xubuntu, but I've already burned ubuntu, can someone tell me how to use expert mode?
[23:32] <imaginator> majikins: GNU parted?
[23:32] <DrMitch> i'm trying to get xfce to autologin as user foo. with debian, i used /etc/inittab to autologin (but now ubuntu doesn't use inittab) and i DON'T want to use kdm or gdm. anyone know how i can have it autologin foo (and startx) at rc.local ?
[23:32] <krim> Odd-rationale: Seems like the solution to my problem is there. Thanks.
[23:32] <Eagle2160> Ph0ebus do you have AIM??
[23:32] <LjL> Aeleon: less scary than sudo bash or sudo su, which are simply absurd. but if you need to do it, do it... just be careful
[23:32] <Odd-rationale> krim: np
[23:32] <Ph0ebus> Eagle2160, yes
[23:32] <majikins> I'll have a look at that thanks
[23:32] <Eagle2160> ph0ebus contact me at cmridd123
[23:32] <nekostar> hey
[23:32] <Dante123> Is there another chat room where I can get help with Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] and Call of Duty 1 (wine)
[23:32] <gnoift> happy1: your filesystem mounted ok now?
[23:32] <LjL> nickrud: yeah. looked weird that nobody had come up with that.
[23:32] <nekostar> anyone tried syncing smartphone on ubuntu?
[23:33] <Aeleon> how do i, uh,
[23:33] <Aeleon> get out of it as soon as I'm done, LjL?
[23:33] <gnoift> ^D ?
[23:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Dante123: #winehq
[23:33] <ArthurArchnix> majikins: fdisk can do partition work without x.
[23:34] <nickrud> Aeleon:  just type exit.  And the only time you really need it is if you can't cd into a directory
[23:34] <francesco> Thank you guys. I really appreciated your help.
[23:34] <LjL> Aeleon: "exit"
[23:35] <Eagle2160> Ph0ebus are you going to contact me on AIM?
[23:35] <imaginator> are any of you aware of a way to use ffmpeg or possibly another tool to capture video from a V4L2-based driver, that doesn't support read() but does have mmap() support?
[23:35] <ArthurArchnix> majikins: I don't think that's the tool that's used by the text install. I think that might be cfdisk?
[23:35] <Dante123> thanks Jack_Sparrow
[23:36] <Aeleon> thanks, guys.
[23:36] <Eagle2160> Ph0ebus??
[23:36] <DrMitch> how can i auto-login as a user in non-X runlevel?
[23:36] <chuy_max> crdlb, it works :D. however my keyboard settings are wrong, and there are only 2 effects (wobble windows, and cube effect)
[23:37] <JRU909> I have a question about the alternate cd, it's not supposed to have the live cd, but when I went to the site, and downloaded it, I checked the alternate cd box, but when I booted with it, it had the live cd option
[23:37] <gnoift> chuy_max: you working okay now?
[23:37] <krim> Ok, I tried installing VirtualBox from a .deb now and got dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of virtualbox
[23:37] <chuy_max> gnoift, yes
[23:37] <JRU909> What is wrong with my cd
[23:37] <Jack_Sparrow> JRU909: Same thing happened to me this am...
[23:37] <nickrud> JRU909: I saw that last night, the alternate select box not working. You can get the alternate at releases.ubuntu.com/7.10
[23:37] <gnoift> chuy_max: nice what was the problem then?
[23:37] <majikins> I've tried cfdisk and it gives me a different interface
[23:37] <Odd-rationale> krim: Did you completely remove the OSE?
[23:37] <Eagle2160> PH0EBUS?
[23:37] <chuy_max> gnoift, xgl was not loaded
[23:38] <gnoift> chuy_max: nice what was the problem then
[23:38] <imaginator> majikins: is parted what you were thinking of?
[23:38] <krim> Odd-rationale: Yes, I did aptitude purge
[23:38] <JRU909> Nickrud: thanks, I'll check that out
[23:38] <khelll> how to run wmv files
[23:38] <adub> can someone help me fix my xwindows i just apt-get install thelatest nvidia
[23:38] <DrMitch> mplayer
[23:38] <gnoift> chuy_max: eh. yeah. i'll remember that next time. sorry, thought it was a nvidia card. kinda assume everyone is using it
[23:38] <adub> and my x windows is crashed
[23:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !wmv
[23:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[23:38] <krim> Odd-rationale: Oh and now I got an update notification and when I clicked it it said "software index broken"
[23:39]  * genii puts on more coffee
[23:39] <gnoift> chuy_max: but i guess with the new AMD/ATI deal there are a lot of people going the ati way
[23:39]  * nickrud puts the coffee cup back in the microwave
[23:39] <chuy_max> gnoift, what-s that deal?
[23:39] <JRU909> nickrud: thanks, now I'm downloading the alternate cd, now all I need to do is pray I have one more blank cd, lol
[23:39] <genii> nickrud: :)
[23:39] <Odd-rationale> krim: Could you pastebin the output?
[23:39] <adub> how can i return back to my old video driver
[23:39] <Eagle2160> can anyone help me reinstall ubuntu???
[23:40] <DrMitch> Eagle2160, insert CD, reboot computer
[23:40] <nickrud> Eagle2160: see DrMitch
[23:40] <gnoift> chuy_max: no man wa just q how you solved the ati problem. never worked on ati before
[23:40] <imaginator> adub: at the grub prompt boot using the alternate mode.   Then you can remove that package.  The nvidia packages for Ubuntu really don't work as well in my experience as the official nvidia driver installers, which detect if the video card driver is compatible.
[23:40] <DrMitch> Eagle2160, see nickrud
[23:40] <arag0rn> hey
[23:40] <sveakex> hey, my friend has a problem, he claims to have installed ubuntu however there is no difference when he boots the computer up! why is this?
[23:40] <Eagle2160> drmitch which option do i select
[23:40] <l337_n166a> aye
[23:40] <DrMitch> boot or install
[23:40] <arag0rn>  I've been trying to install gutsy on my intel core 2 duo. It already has windows.Well it installed alright and booted fine into linux, but when I booted into windows and did a reboot.. I could never again see the grub scren..it just reboots again and again. Any ideas on what could be wrong ?
[23:41] <gnoift> chuy_max: oh the ati/amd one? They merged far as i can tell and now ati has open-sources the drivers, far as i know
[23:41] <Dante123> Hi all, trying to get COD (under wine) to work with Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000].  Any suggestions?
[23:41] <krim> Odd-rationale: I just did aptitude update and aptitude safe-upgrade, it told me "The following packages have unmet dependencies:  virtualbox: Depends: libxalan110 but it is not installable  Depends: libxerces27 but it is not installable
[23:41] <Eagle2160> drmitch but it is already installed but not completely i need to reinstall it from scratch
[23:41] <l337_n166a> i have a query about application switching - is there a command that will bring an X app to the foreground if the window i on a different virtual desktop?
[23:41] <neverblue> Dante123, ask in #winehq
[23:41] <ArthurArchnix> sveakex: Are you in front of your friends computer? Did he just boot up the livecd, or did he boot it up and then choose to install it?
[23:41] <krim> Odd-rationale: I'm not sure which output you want to see though.
[23:41] <imaginator> adub: also this may help: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:42] <DrMitch> ok
[23:42] <DrMitch> so reinstall from scratch
[23:42] <Eagle2160> drmitch i can not there is no option to.....
[23:42] <DrMitch> Eagle2160, during the install process, you can format the partition
[23:42] <poeloq> re
[23:42] <chuy_max> gnoift, the merge has more than 1 year
[23:42] <nickrud> Eagle2160: any install is 'from scratch'
[23:43] <adub> ok i removed the nvidia-flx drivers and i still do not have video
[23:43] <IndyGunFreak> arag0rn: thats an interesting prob, never heard of that one.
[23:43] <Odd-rationale> krim: OK, sorry, this is over my head. try #vbox
[23:43] <sveakex> arthurarchnix, i am not infront of my friends pc, i am doing him a favour by getting him help, he says he installed ubuntu but it looks like there is no difference when he boots it up, is grub missing?
[23:43] <erle-> what's the matter if xrandr does not detect a plugged vga monitor?
[23:43] <adub> my error msg is no screens found
[23:43] <Eagle2160> nickrud and drmitch i installed it but it completely messed up and did not fully install i need to start the install over again but it does not have an option to do that how the heck do i install it correctly?
[23:43] <krim> Odd-rationale: Just joined that channel :) Thanks for trying to help.
[23:43] <DrMitch> anyone know how to autologin as a user in non-X runlevel?
[23:43] <nickrud> Eagle2160: but before you start the new install: if you had problems with the last, run the disc check
[23:43] <gnoift> krim do you have all main universe multiverse and restricted enabled? if you downloaded the virtualbox package from the website, uninstall it and use the one in the repositories
[23:43] <Odd-rationale> krim: Sorry couldn't do much...
[23:43] <nickrud> Eagle2160: just tell it to install, it will start all over from the beginning
[23:44] <DrMitch> put in the cd and choose "boot livecd or install" or something like that
[23:44] <Eagle2160> nickrud it does not have that option
[23:44] <Eagle2160> drmitch it does not have that option
[23:44] <imaginator> erle-: do you mean you don't have an option as far as display depths and sizes?
[23:44] <gnoift> chuy_max: yes i know it was a long time ago - but far as i can tell the work on the drivers is only starting to filter through now
[23:44] <happy1> can anyone tell me how to extract a bz2 file from the command line to a Windows share (e.g., smb://192.168.1.4/extract ?
[23:44] <krim> gnoift: But the one in the repositories didn't work, that's why I downloaded the deb
[23:44] <erle-> imaginator, he does not display anything
[23:44] <nickrud> Eagle2160: when you tell it to install, it will start at the beginning, as if you had never installed before
[23:44] <erle-> he only displays my laptop display
[23:44] <javaccen> any chance someone could help me? I am only getting 80mbit/s transfer over gigabit ethernet with iperf
[23:44] <gnoift> krim, what did it not work?
[23:45] <erle-> *it
[23:45] <imaginator> erle-: how are you running xrandr ?
[23:45] <erle-> xrandr -q
[23:45] <arag0rn> IndyGunFreak, would 64-bit thing have anything to do there..i've never heard of it either
[23:45] <gnoift> krim, you're using 7.10?
[23:45] <Eagle2160> nickrud ok first of all it does not have that option second of all i have tryed that atleast 5 times already and it is not working!
[23:45] <erle-> imaginator, to find out, which devices are plugged
[23:45] <l337_n166a> happy1:  bzip2 -d $file $destination ?
[23:45] <ArthurArchnix> sveakex: Could be missing. Is it possible he never actually installed it? How many hard-drive's does he have?
[23:45] <IndyGunFreak> arag0rn: i'm not really familiar w/ 64bit, but i wouldn't think so.
[23:45] <nickrud> Eagle2160: then maybe you have a bad disk. Did you run the disk check utility on the startup screen?
[23:45] <erle-> i have gutsy with intel 945GM and xserver 1.3
[23:45] <arag0rn> and I've never heard of Windows touching grub unless one reinstalls windows
[23:45] <gnoift> javaccen: what's your mtu size?
[23:45] <krim> gnoift: 7.10 64 bit. Odd-rationale sent me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=625975 and the solution seems to be in rolodoom's post.
[23:45] <DrMitch> Eagle2160, what options do you have?
[23:45] <erle-> everything should work fine, i intel does not lie, imaginator
[23:45] <sveakex> arthurarchnix, he has 2 hdd, his windows partition is smaller than before atleast.
[23:46] <javaccen> gnoift: 1500
[23:46] <imaginator> erle-: the video card driver you have may not be compatible with the xrandr extension.
[23:46] <Eagle2160> nickrud yes it is a good disk but all the option on there say start and install or just boot but it will not install from the begining
[23:46] <javaccen> i am not sure if the switch supports jumbo frame
[23:46] <arag0rn> IndyGunFreak,  and I've never heard of Windows touching grub unless one reinstalls windows..so this kind of confuses me
[23:46] <gnoift> krim, so it's working alright now? i'm also running 64 and it worked out the box
[23:46] <erle-> imaginator, it is
[23:46] <gnoift> javaccen, what's it set on the switch?
[23:46] <IndyGunFreak> arag0rn: very true.... so how ar eyou here right now?... are yo on the live CD?
[23:46] <erle-> imaginator, there are official howtos by intel
[23:46] <arag0rn> IndyGunFreak, no a different machine :)
[23:46] <nickrud> Eagle2160: Some machines have problems installing from the live cd. You may have to try the alternate one from releases.ubuntu.com/7.10
[23:46] <IndyGunFreak> arag0rn: oh ok.
[23:47] <imaginator> erle-: oh, so are you sure you're using the proper Intel driver in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[23:47] <IndyGunFreak> arag0rn: the pc thats messed up, is it running XP?
[23:47] <erle-> imaginator, i don't have an xorg.conf
[23:47] <arag0rn> IndyGunFreak, yep
[23:47] <javaccen> i am not sure the switch can be configured?
[23:47] <krim> gnoift: Nope, I uninstalled virtualbox from the repositories and downloaded the deb, but when I tried to install it it said that it couldn't because it had unmet dependencies.
[23:47] <adub> can somenoe help me get my X working again
[23:47] <erle-> imaginator, the official driver by intel is free software
[23:47] <Eagle2160> nickrud no all i need to do is install it from the begining how do i do that the cd is working fine all i need to do is restart it from the begining
[23:47] <adub> i seemed to have crashed it
[23:47] <imaginator> erle-: so you're trying to do a config-less X11?
[23:48] <IndyGunFreak> arag0rn: well, if you can get an XP boot disk, and get to DOS, you can run fixmbr and fixboot   that will erase the masterboot record, and the 1st boot sector, which should clear out grub, and allow you to boot straight to Windows
[23:48] <l337_n166a> X is evil :(
[23:48] <gnoift> krim: apt-get install -f ?
[23:48] <l337_n166a> it's especially evil if it break!
[23:48] <erle-> imaginator, i want to do it by randr - dynamically
[23:48] <ArthurArchnix> sveakex: If it installed normally, without problems (e.g., without aborting the grub install) then what's seemingly happened is that grub has been installed to the wrong hard-drive. If your friend is putting windows and ubuntu on one hard-drive and just using the second as a shared drive, the simplest solution is to unplug the second unused drive. Boot up the live cd and reinstall grub.
[23:48] <erle-> since gutsy there is no need for xorg.conf, im
[23:48] <nickrud> Eagle2160: it boots to the live cd desktop?  Double click the Install Icon. If that does not work, your machine won't install from the live cd, and you will need the alternate
 how you testing the speed, ftp?
[23:48] <krim> gnoift: Thanks :D
[23:49] <aszwet1> hello i'm having problems with video playback on my laptop with an nvidia 4200 go.  i get a horizontal strobing line about an inch from the top of the video.  anybody else ever get this problem?
[23:49] <adub> gosh dang it i hate this you dont learn anything by formatting and reinstalling all the time
[23:49] <javaccen> gnoift: iperf, but ftp speed is the same
[23:49] <aszwet1> if not how did you install vnidia
[23:49] <adub> but this might be what i have to do
[23:49] <Eagle2160> nickrud it will not install like that because the original install did not completely install correctly about half waay through it quit out i just need to start it from scratch again
[23:49] <ArthurArchnix> l337_n166a: gnome can't switch apps across virtual desktops afaik. http://gnomesupport.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12896&highlight=alt+tab+desktops
[23:49] <arag0rn> IndyGunFreak, thanks..that way I'll have at least one OS up :)
[23:49] <gnoift> krim: it installed the missing dependancies ?
[23:49] <nickrud> Eagle2160: you are not listening. Double clicking that starts it from scratch.
[23:49] <Johnny_5> aszwet1: is the video choppy?
[23:49] <grekkos> is there any conventional way to change my default video program in linux?
[23:50] <gnoift> javaccen: have you tried bwm?
[23:50] <krim> gnoift: It sure did
[23:50] <IndyGunFreak> arag0rn: yeah,t hats what i'm thinking, then once you do that, you can either 1.  reinstall 32bit ubuntu(if you think thats the prob), or attempt to use the Live CD to reinstall Grub*(which i can't really help w/, sorry)
[23:50] <rredd4> I just purchased a 160GB hd.  I want to format it ext3, partion editor does not see it.  do i have to mount it first? how please
[23:50] <DrMitch> grekkos, depends on your WM
[23:50] <grekkos> DrMitch: i thought so... i'm using Gnome... is there a gconf key for it?
[23:50] <imaginator> rredd4: is it an external driver or an internal drive?
[23:51] <ArthurArchnix> l337_n166a: The best you can do with a default ubuntu install is to assign your desktops shortcut keys, for a quick switch to them, then alt-tab. E.g., Alt-1 is desktop 1, alt-2, etc...
[23:51] <rredd4> imaginator  internal slave drive
[23:51] <sveakex> arthurarchnix, ok, does ubuntu by default install on the wrong hdd? :S
[23:51] <imaginator> rredd4: does it show up in your dmesg?
[23:51] <aszwet1> Johnny_5, it's not a different color or anything, it just kinda strobes
[23:51] <arag0rn> IndyGunFreak, would you think installing ubuntu on a different physical hard drive would help ?
[23:51] <ArthurArchnix> sveakex: In my personal experience here and on the forums ubuntu installer and grub do not handle installations with dual-boot/dual-sata-drives very well.
[23:52] <arag0rn> IndyGunFreak, and I've already tried the Live CD grub thing..not very successful :)
[23:52] <IndyGunFreak> arag0rn: ok, so thats no joy.
[23:52] <Twinxor> oh cool, KDE4 is out
[23:52] <Vir4030> http://blog.sillica.com/2008/01/11/koopa-died-in-a-haberdashery-accident/
[23:52] <Hilikus_> where is the right place to permanently change your environment path variable in ubuntu??
[23:52] <l337_n166a> ArthurArchnix: it was a prob with the GL desktop, and the v-desktop switcher that caused it - i told gl desktop prefs that i had 2 columns, 1 row, but the pager only had 1x1.  setting the pager to 2x1 gave me back the two desktops, but it hid all the windows i was using :-(
[23:52] <JRU909> Ok, when I finally get ubuntu installed, will my swap partition make up for my small ram? ram=256 swap=1 gig
[23:52] <IndyGunFreak> arag0rn: well, you'll have a bunch of space that Windows won't be able to see on your primaryd rive(however big your ubuntu partition is).. so you'd have to partition/reformat it also.
[23:52] <sveakex> arthusarchnix, so the best solution is to take away one hdd or use another distro?
[23:52] <qwaz> can someone tell me how to stop cron from emailing me all the time?
[23:52] <adub> :( how can i repair my X i was trying to install the latest nvidia drivers and my drivers were fine
[23:53] <adub> but then my X server will no longer load
[23:53] <arag0rn> ArthurArchnix, interesting..I'm facing a dual boot, dual sata drive problem too
[23:53] <rredd4> imaginator  not sure, looked but not sure what to look for.
[23:53] <l337_n166a> qwaz:   crontab -e -u $username
[23:53] <IndyGunFreak> sveakex: whats the issue.. that hardl seems like a solution
[23:53] <adub> i did apt-get remove nvidia-flx and then reboot and x still will not load
[23:53] <l337_n166a> qwaz: comment the line that's doing it maybe
[23:53] <gnoift> ArthurArchnix: i've had the same problem, but only with debian based nixes - i need to change my disk boot priority if there's a problem, which there almost always is after install and then fix things in /boot/grub/menu.lst and change hda0 to hda1/2/3 etcetera
[23:53] <rredd4> imaginator  can i look with a more specific command?
[23:53] <imaginator> rredd4: most likely something named sda or sdb
[23:53] <nickrud> JRU909: when that swap starts to get full, you are gonna get disk thrashing and a nearly useless desktop. You should max out at around 512mg swap
[23:53] <qwaz> l337_n166a: all the jobs are emailing me
[23:53] <imaginator> rredd4: dmesg | grep disk   or dmesg | grep drive or some variant of that should work
[23:54] <spencer70> i have a partition that says im not allowed to write to it how can i write files to it
[23:54] <sp0ro> Apparently my login screen has a different resolution(1900x1080) than my desktop resolution(1280x1024). Is there anyway to fix my login window to show a resolution of 1280x1024?
[23:54] <arag0rn> IndyGunFreak, yea that too :)..should'nt be a problem once I get ubuntu working
[23:54] <ArthurArchnix> sveakex: No, certainly not the best. I said the simplest. Once you've got ubuntu installed then you plug the other drive in and edit grub manually. Here's a link that I'm currently working on with someone on the forums that might explain more: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=664864
[23:54] <Ubuntu-fan> I am testing my wireless network with airsnort... how many packets do I need and how many "Interesting" / "Unique" to crack the WEP key ? And will airsnort crack the key by itself or do I need to do something after I have collected enough packets?
[23:54] <JRU909> nickrud: yet again, you have the advice, thank you, is it ok to pm you if I have any other problems?
[23:54] <l337_n166a> qwaz: maybe you have to config cron - maybe a conf in /etc
[23:54] <IndyGunFreak> arag0rn: good luck.. never heard that one, doesn't make any sense, i guess worst comes to worst(assuming you have a reasonably current backup), you could completely reinstall both OS's
[23:54] <ArthurArchnix> gnoift: Yeah, so maybe another distro like fedora 8 or opensuse is an option for people who are in those situations. Any positive experience?
[23:55] <rredd4> imaginator  sdb attached scsi disk (its really a eide)
[23:55] <nickrud> JRU909: you should ask here on the mainline, because others here know a lot more than I do. I had a 256 ram machine, that's why I answered
[23:55] <spencer70> how come i cannot write to one of the partition on my computer
[23:55] <IndyGunFreak> spencer70: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[23:55] <sveakex> IndyGunFreak, my friend installed ubuntu on his computer with 2 hdd, and now it boots exactly like it did before, he told me he claims he installed grub on hd0
[23:55] <gnoift> adub: you might want to try and move the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file away and then restarting X or reinstalling your driver
[23:55] <rredd4> imaginator  what is PM: resume from disk failed. ?
[23:55] <JRU909> nickrud:k, thank again
[23:55] <ArthurArchnix> arag0rn: You're have a grub problem?
[23:55] <arag0rn> IndyGunFreak, agreed :)..just poped the cd back in
[23:55] <arag0rn> ArthurArchnix, yep
[23:56] <IndyGunFreak> sveakex: are you on a RAID?
[23:56] <spencer70> IndyGunFreak 7.10 i just need to change permissions but im not sure how
[23:56] <imaginator> rredd4: the Linux eide layer uses SCSI emulation for various reasons.
[23:56] <ArthurArchnix> arag0rn: Just scrolling up to find it and see if it's possible to avoid a reinstall.
[23:56] <sveakex> IndyGunFreak, my friend, don't think so why?
[23:56]  * Aeleon FLIPS OUT ON WINSCP AND ROOT.
[23:56] <gnoift> ArthurArchnix: I've gotten sidux to work out the box and sabayon aswell, debian stable/testing is a bit strange when it gets to that
[23:56] <Aeleon> Root doesn't have a password, right?
[23:56] <rredd4> imaginator ok, how do i format it ext3?
[23:56] <nickrud> Aeleon: correct
[23:56] <Aeleon> unless i set one.
[23:57] <Aeleon> thank you, nick.
[23:57] <IndyGunFreak> sveakex: well, whoever is having the problems... i've had issues w/ dual booting on two hard drives, when the two hard drives were on a RAID.. other than thta though, its easy
[23:57] <spencer70> IndyGunFreak:  7.10 i just need to change permissions but im not sure how
[23:57] <imaginator> rredd4: first verify that the kernel has attached to the device
[23:57] <nickrud> Aeleon: again correct :)
[23:57] <IndyGunFreak> spencer70: ok, sorry don't have an answer
[23:57] <arag0rn> ArthurArchnix,  I've been trying to install gutsy on my intel core 2 duo. It already has windows.Well it installed alright and booted fine into linux, but when I booted into windows and did a reboot.. I could never again see the grub scren..it just reboots again and again...pasted the problem again
[23:57] <gnoift> ArthurArchnix: but this is on y nforce4 motherboard, the problem might be fixed now
[23:57] <Aeleon> uh,
[23:57] <sp0ro> Apparently my login screen has a different resolution(1900x1080) than my desktop resolution(1280x1024). Is there anyway to fix my login window to show a resolution of 1280x1024? It used to be 1280x1024, but randomly changed. I did not play with any configurations before this started happening.
[23:57] <imaginator> rredd4: you need to create a partition.  you can use parted or many other tools.  I'm not sure why the Ubuntu tools aren't working
[23:57] <Aeleon> i can't ssh to my box with the username root though, can i?
[23:58] <imaginator> rredd4: then it's a matter of mkfs.ext3, and adding it to your /etc/fstab
[23:58] <LjL> Aeleon: no, you can't
[23:58] <spencer70> Does anyone know how to change the read/write permission of a partition
[23:58] <sveakex> IndyGunFreak, ok, i told him we will reinstall it again together, then it hopefully will work.
[23:58] <nickrud> sp0ro: check /etc/X11/xorg.conf , there should be a Modes line near the end. Set that to the res you want
[23:58] <jabagawe1> spencer: im pretty sure you can chmod it like any other folder after you assign a mount point to it
[23:58] <IndyGunFreak> sveakex: yeah.., hopefully it works, i've had very little problem when installing Windows on one drive, and Linux on the other(its how i learned)
[23:58] <rredd4> imaginator when i open gparted, only sda shows
[23:59] <sveakex> IndyGunFreak, he had both OS's on the same drive
[23:59] <spencer70> jabagawel: how do you chmod
[23:59] <elliot_> hey, quick question, is there some Linux equivalent to NetSend for Windows?
[23:59] <ArthurArchnix> arag0rn: What's the hardware setup? And you installed, after install you remove cd and it boots into grub, you booted linux. Then rebooted again, and chose windows (through grub), then a reboot, and grub was gone and windows boots all the time?
[23:59] <IndyGunFreak> sveakex:  i understand that..
[23:59] <Toaster`> Evening all.  If I've ssh'd into another box, can I pull that X session to my client box via xforward, without restarting what is running on the server box?
[23:59] <emasko> i, using an old emachines celeron 990MHz 128MB of ram and liveCD ubuntu 7.10, it can not even detect the video correctly even at safe grafiks, any suggestion?
[23:59] <Hal9000> hello
[23:59] <Ubuntu-fan> anyone have experience with airsnort ?
[23:59] <gnoift> sp0ro: you can check /etc/X11/xorg.conf to see where the dirrerence is and only keep the resolutions you need but make sure you make a backup cause if that file gets messed it's not always so easy to fix.
[23:59] <imaginator> rredd4: oh, ok.  I wonder, could it be a hardware issue?  Did you do a cable select mode?  could it be set as a master instead of a slave?