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turnosoldats: that worked, thank you00:31
soldatsawesome00:31
soldatsim glad00:31
turnothats a really difficult factory setting00:38
soldatsim thinking of asking to have it implemented as a clickable feature for hardy00:40
Kniggithi01:09
soldatshello01:10
Kniggitjust installed 7.1001:10
Kniggitso far so good01:11
soldatscool01:13
KniggitI'm still downloading system updates, just installed restricted nvidia driver01:15
Kniggithopefully then I can run at the monitor's native res01:15
soldatsyuh01:15
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JohnnyNoBuenoI'm a total n00b.  Anyone have any ideas on getting an SIIG scsi controller to work on a fresh install of 7.10?01:20
wsguedehey I am installing xubuntu via alternate cd02:39
wsguedeand its stuck at gathering information for the install report02:39
wsguedehow long does it normally take to finish02:40
wsguede?02:40
wsguedeanything02:43
soldatsdid you run the md5 on the cd02:44
wsguedeif it did it on its own then yeah, but I didn't go out of my way to do it02:45
wsguedeI ran the alternate cd step by step as it gave me02:46
soldats!md502:46
ubotuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows02:46
soldatsalso make sure you have a good connection to the internet if your doing with internet as well02:47
wsguedewhat do you mean doing it with the internet? and by md5 do you mean check to see if the cd is good? because I did do that a little be ago, and the cd has no faults02:48
soldatsok is it an internet install02:48
wsguedeno02:48
wsguedeI am using the cd02:49
wsguedeI have the internet connected to it02:49
wsguedethe install is done, its just hanging on gathering info about the install... the cd has been taken out02:51
soldatsmaybe you should have left the cd in until it tells you to take it out02:53
wsguedeit did02:53
wsguedeinfact02:53
wsguedeit shot out the cd02:53
wsguedeand was all like02:53
wsguedeget this shit outta here02:53
soldatsim really not so sure since i havent experimented with the alternate cd yet02:53
soldatslol02:53
wsguedehmm02:53
soldatsdid you try a rebot02:53
wsguedeI did before02:54
soldatss/rebot/reboot02:54
wsguedethis is like the 400th time I have installed this thing02:54
wsguedeit hangs here for a while02:54
wsguedeand so I figured that it was ok to hard boot02:54
wsguedeso I did02:54
soldatsis it possible to try the livecd02:54
wsguedeand it brought up grub 1.502:54
wsguedeI will get to that02:54
wsguedeso grub 1.502:55
wsguedeis like a cmd prompt02:55
wsguedeok02:55
wsguedeso the live cd02:55
wsguedeI dled it twice (torrent)02:55
wsguedeand both cds didn't work02:55
wsguedeit goes to the screen where it asks to install or less grafix... blah blah02:56
wsguedethen I hit install / try02:56
wsguedeand then it goes blank02:56
soldatshmm strange02:56
wsguedeit looks like it loads but it doesn't I guess02:56
wsguedelike the monitor is off02:56
soldatson the alternate cd doest it drop to a cmd02:56
wsguedewhen?02:56
wsguedewhen I put it in02:56
wsguedeit goes to the same type of screen as the life cd... but instead of try/install, it says install via text mode or something02:57
soldatsafter reboot or install02:57
wsguedeafter this02:57
wsguedeafter where I am now02:57
wsguedeif I hard boot it it goes to something like a cmd02:58
wsguedeit says loading grub 1.502:58
soldatsok well at the cmd type startx02:58
wsguedethat's not one of the choices it give me (if I can remember right02:58
soldatsit doesnt tell you to log in either02:59
wsguedeI don't want to hard boot it right now just in case02:59
wsguedeno02:59
wsguedeno login02:59
wsguedejust some cmd02:59
soldatshmm, another suggestion would be to install in textmode cause the gui still has problems i believe02:59
wsguedelike a grub cmd02:59
wsguedeyeah that's what the alternate cd is02:59
wsguedeall text mode02:59
soldatshmm see i havent used it yet. i probly should so ill be more fluent in its problems03:00
soldats!install03:01
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate03:01
wsguedeif I install 6.06 can I upgrade to to 7.103:01
soldatsyes03:01
soldatssudo apt-get update03:01
wsguedeI might end up doing that03:06
soldatsits worth a shot but suggest looking into the forums for similar problems or the pages ubotu spewed out03:07
wsguedewhere are those?03:07
soldats!install03:08
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate03:08
soldatsmaybe common problem on installs page03:08
wsguedenope03:08
wsguedelooked there03:08
soldatshmm damn03:08
soldats!forums03:09
ubotuThe Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.03:09
soldatsi wish i could help more but id have to look at it03:09
wsguedeat the screen?03:09
soldatserr be in front of it03:10
wsguedehaha litterally the only thing on the screen right now is a bar stuck at 85% saying03:10
wsguedeGathering information for installation report03:10
soldatswierd ive never heard of that happening yet03:10
wsguedeyeah the forums dong help much either03:14
wsguedesome guy had this kind of problem with reg ubuntu, no one answered him03:14
soldatshmm shitty03:15
wsguedeyeah03:15
wsguedeI have burned like 4-5 cds just for this shit03:15
soldatsis it a desktop03:16
wsguedeyeah03:16
wsguede2.7 pent 4 256 mb mem03:16
wsguedeold as shit03:17
wsguedeonly supposed to need 64 mb mem to install xubuntu with the alternate cd03:17
soldats2.7ghrtz03:18
wsguedeeyah03:18
soldatsmine crappier03:19
wsguedeyeah I don't know03:19
soldatsi had a slightly similar problem but it turned out to be the cd drive not responding and i put in a new one and it worked flawlessly03:20
soldatsbut you get way further than i did03:20
wsguedeyeah03:20
soldatss/get/got03:20
wsguedemy other drive did the same thing03:20
wsguede?03:20
wsguedes/get/got?03:20
soldatsinstead of saying *got03:21
wsguedeok03:21
wsguedeI am going to dl the 6.06 and then just upgrade it from that03:26
soldatscool03:27
mindframewhat's hardy status for xubuntu right now?03:32
wsguedeyou can dl it03:32
mindframeany known critical bugs?03:32
wsguedealpha 303:32
wsguedehttp://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/hardy/03:32
mindframei'd be upgrading from an existing 7.10 install03:33
wsguedeok03:33
soldats!hardy03:36
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu03:36
soldatsnot in releasing stages yet03:37
wsguedesoldats: ok so I ended up hard booting03:38
wsguedeand now it actually boots into the system... or I think it does03:38
wsguedebecause it goes blank03:38
wsguedeand I can't see anything03:38
wsguedeand the torrent dls for 6.06 and 7.04 are slow as hell03:39
wsguedeand reg dl from mirrors I am at like 10 kbps average03:39
wsguedesoldats: what's "power pc"03:40
JohnnyNoBueno'evening!05:02
JohnnyNoBuenoany savvy ubunteros about?05:02
JohnnyNoBuenoif anyone is reading, I just installed Gutsy and can't see any of my scsi devices.05:03
TheSODOMkjjj05:03
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JohnnyNoBuenoCan't access my scsi devices.  Help?05:07
zoredachereally?  what kind of devices...05:13
zoredacheand where are you looking?05:13
JohnnyNoBuenoI have an old AdvanSys adapter and I can't seem to access my cdrw or hdd.  I have gutsy installed on an ide drive.05:15
JohnnyNoBuenoi've looked everywhere.  I even updated my kernel to 2.6.24 (hardy) on a clue that it may be a kernel issue.05:16
JohnnyNoBuenoSeeing as I'm new to linux, I don't know the exact ins and outs of dealing with hardware (if it was M$, I'd be done already)05:17
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htmljunkiehello all06:05
hollunderhi there, my system tried to do a dist-upgrade right now, which as a bit strange I think...10:32
hollunderit could be because of backports, but that it makes a distupgrade is new to me10:40
sacaraschi! my friend is using xubuntu and pretty much everything he seems to use gets zombied and will only disappear after he logs out and back in again10:54
sacarascis this a known problem or something to do with his stuff?10:54
TheSheepsacarasc: what's the problem exactly?11:05
volker___hi everybody. I have installed xubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu 7.10. Is it possible to enable compize as easy as in gnome?12:55
volker___help12:57
sacarascTheSheep: he runs stuff, when he closes it (via the x button in the corner) it just zombies itself12:57
TheSheepsacarasc: and?12:58
sacarascthat's it, it's just an annoyance (and very sloppy)12:58
TheSheepsacarasc: I suppose it's a bug in the xfce menu, it's already being rewritten from scratch for 4.6 though12:59
sacarascearlier he had 37 zombie processes just handing around12:59
sacarasci use xfce myself, and it all works well12:59
TheSheepsacarasc: zombie processes don't use up resources12:59
TheSheepsacarasc: it *is* a little messy, but it doesn't hurt13:00
TheSheepsacarasc: you can report a bug if you want, at bugs.ubuntu.com13:00
TheSheep(serach for an existing one first, please)13:00
radioaktivstormhello...anyone having problems with the volume control in their xubuntu. my keybindings for the volume buttons fail to work.14:41
TheSheep_radioaktivstorm: what keybindings?14:43
radioaktivstormvolume control xf86AudioLowerVolume and RaiseVome14:44
TheSheep_radioaktivstorm: what commands are bound to them?14:45
radioaktivstormi see in the keyboard shortcuts window that they are there to control aumix (which i didnt have at first)14:45
radioaktivstormaumix -v014:46
radioaktivstormfor mute14:46
TheSheep_did you try these commands from your terminal?14:46
radioaktivstormaumix -v-10 lowervolume, aumix -v+1014:46
radioaktivstormthose are the defaults but  those ones didnt work... and i tried something like aumix set Master +10 or something14:47
radioaktivstormfrom reading around14:47
radioaktivstormif i remember it did  work in the terminal14:47
radioaktivstormbut not with the keyboard shortcut14:47
radioaktivstormwhats interesting, is when i add a test command  through the graphical interface for shortcuts, and press the raise volume button, it captures a blank14:48
TheSheep_radioaktivstorm: do you have the keyboard type set properly?14:49
radioaktivstormsorry?14:49
TheSheep_radioaktivstorm: keyoard layout that is14:49
TheSheep_radioaktivstorm: last tab in the keyboard settings14:50
radioaktivstormit is set on the default X configuration14:50
TheSheep_radioaktivstorm: you have to set it to the keyboard you actually use, or similar14:50
TheSheep_radioaktivstorm: and what is the default X configuration?14:50
TheSheep_radioaktivstorm: it should show you in grayed-out14:51
radioaktivstormi dont recall, i think i just set it to 105 keyboard14:51
radioaktivstormyes that is what it says14:51
TheSheep_radioaktivstorm: us 105 doesn't have media keys14:51
radioaktivstormwhich would explain a lot...I just sort of assumed that xf86Audio stuff would work given that it does in the other desktop environments and thought it was something i did.14:52
radioaktivstormthanks ill fix that right now14:52
radioaktivstormive set it to the dell latitude series keyboard14:55
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CraZy675hey i've been using linux now for about 5 years14:56
radioaktivstormwhen i reopen it is set to use x configuration with the model being dell latitude series ( because it changes xorg.conf?). it still captures a blank when i try to add commands with the media buttons14:57
CraZy675but i've not contributed14:57
CraZy675I'd like to help test the alpha or beta of the next xubuntu, how would I do this?14:57
TheSheep_radioaktivstorm: it doesn't change the X default14:57
TheSheep_radioaktivstorm: you can run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' to chenge it14:57
TheSheep_CraZy675: see the xubuntu.org14:58
radioaktivstormok... so then it is bad that id magically checks the use X configuration then14:58
TheSheep_radioaktivstorm: probably14:58
CraZy675TheSheep_: yea I just found that sorry14:58
TheSheep_CraZy675: the 'get involved' link14:58
TheSheep_CraZy675: no need to be sorry :)14:58
TheSheep_CraZy675: you can also lurk on #xubntu-dev14:59
CraZy675okay thanks14:59
radioaktivstormi decided to check aumix, since i was in the terminal, it looks like i just get " SOUND_MIXER_READ_DEVMASK" when i try the commands that were in the default xubuntu configuration for volume.15:01
radioaktivstormis there a way to skip the things i dont want to change?15:04
TheSheep_radioaktivstorm: just press enter15:05
radioaktivstormok15:05
radioaktivstormi assume i need to restart x15:14
radioaktivstormbrb.15:14
radioaktivstormTheSheep_ thank you :)  it looks like the keys are properly captured, however, the commands do not.15:18
radioaktivstorm*do not work15:18
TheSheep_radioaktivstorm: personally, I use mpd and have mpc bound to those keys15:19
TheSheep_radioaktivstorm: you say they work from the terminal?15:19
radioaktivstormthe default ones, no.15:19
radioaktivstormthe only output i get  from aumx is this rather cryptic: "aumix:  SOUND_MIXER_READ_DEVMASK"15:20
TheSheep_radioaktivstorm: if youo have time, file a bug report15:20
radioaktivstormalright15:20
radioaktivstormah15:27
radioaktivstormit seems that this one has been filed before15:27
TheSheep_radioaktivstorm: add a 'metoo'15:29
radioaktivstormok :) it looks like people who rebuilt the aumix package from source from the gutsy repos got it working. but it appears that it wont be changed until the next release? hmm15:33
TheSheep_radioaktivstorm: if it's not a critical bug, then no15:34
radioaktivstormok15:36
bcpage_besides the window manager what is the difference from ubuntu?15:39
TheSheep_bcpage_: default set of applications and initial settings15:44
TheSheep_bcpage_: for example, different file manager, different editor, different word processor, etc.15:44
radioaktivstormTheSheep_ i found the command i used that did work: amixer. I'll suggest it as an alternative in my comment on the bug report and change out my commands. thanks for all of your help!15:45
TheSheep_bcpage_: also, different settings subsystem15:46
bcpage_is there any restriction on the apps/packages I can install?15:47
TheSheep_bcpage_: no15:47
TheSheep_bcpage_: except for when an application comes in two versions, for gnome and gtk, then you can have only one of them installed, but you can choose which15:48
bcpage_I'm switching from PClinux os and trying to decide between xubuntu and ubuntu. My comp is a 1.2 Ghz 512 ram. Not the fastest comp but it works15:52
bcpage_how much of a performance could I see?15:53
bcpage_differance*15:53
radioaktivstormmy laptop has 1.4GHz 512MB RAM, and if i remember baseline, xfce starts off closer to 100MB ram and gnome closer to 200MB. i suppose if youre really into performance, you should go with xfce, but gnome runs fine on my machine, and kde does as well (although much of the ram is consumed when i start doing things)15:58
radioaktivstormi dont think i have ever had any real performance problems in gnome. I just like xfce :P16:00
SpaggyHow do I know if my newly bought wireless network card will work on my laptop running xubuntu?17:09
TheSheep_you could try to boot a livecd17:10
TheSheep_and see17:10
SpaggyI have the os already, but I don't want to open the package of the card without knowing it will work.17:11
TheSheep_then how do you want to check it?17:14
TheSheep_it's not *that* wireless17:14
SpaggyI'm not sure, is there any resources that I can check regarding what will work on my laptop and what will not?17:16
TheSheep_there is a compatibility list on ubuntu.com17:16
TheSheep_but it's not complete -- if something's not there, it doesn't mean it doesn't work17:17
TheSheep_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport17:19
SpaggyThanks!17:26
Spaggy:)17:26
slow-motionhi17:57
mklebelso I compiled my kernel by hand, edited my /boot/grub/menu.lst, and it says it cant find the boot partition, does anybody have any experiance with setting the root= option?18:22
mklebeli think thats the prob18:22
mklebeli tried, /dev/sda1, (hd0,1)18:22
mklebelno worky18:22
TheSheepmklebel: try /dev/hda118:27
mklebelok18:28
mklebelbrb18:28
mikubuntumy mouse on my dell d600 laptop has gone mad.  happens with or without usb mouse attached.  cursor starts drifting slowly northeast to top right corner of screen, and the longer i stay on the computer, the faster it drifts, till it's impossible to controll or counteract at all, thus leaving me with no way to navigate.  i found this page of posts with similar problems on ubuntu forums, but...19:46
mikubuntu...they are from 2006 and appear never to have been addressed.  does anyone know what to do about this MAJOR prob?  is it some kind of malicious code that a micromole from gates team managed to slip into my updates?  heeeeEEEELLLLLppppp.19:46
mikubuntuhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20767719:46
evil_techhow do i write zeros to a drive from the cli?20:49
TheSheepdd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/your_drive20:56
TheSheepevil_tech: be aware that this will destroy all the data on your_drive20:56
evil_techthats my intent20:57
TheSheepevil_tech: be also aware that this data can be recovered using specialistic hardware and laboratory expertise20:59
nerous2Hey all20:59
nerous2hows it goin20:59
evil_techi thought writing zeros a couple times made that a very expensive proposition20:59
nerous2hey so can someone please tell me why i cant copy my themes files from the desktop to the /usr/home/themes folder21:00
nerous2sorry not home, share21:01
TheSheepnerous2: run 'gksu thunar' and try with it21:02
nerous2am i running that from the term?21:03
TheSheepyes, or from alt+f221:03
TheSheepthe point is, to write anywhere outside of your home you have to be root21:04
nerous2ok that worked.21:04
nerous2oh ok21:04
nerous2i tried it in root at the term21:04
nerous2but when i put in my line, it said ommiting "x" folder21:05
TheSheepyou need -r option for cp to copy directories too21:05
nerous2oh thanks!21:05
nerous2i spent 5 days trying to switch from ubuntu to another os...i tried gentoo, and slack, and goblinx...but none of them would install for me.21:06
nerous2but i want to try something other than ubuntu 6.06 so i am trying this.  now i am trying to install a different theme...but im still learning21:06
nerous2might see me around a bit21:06
TheSheepsure thing21:07
TheSheepdon't hesitate to ask21:07
nerous2TheSheep: i have a large X on the side of the folder i copied21:09
nerous2would you mind giving me a few steps to installing a theme21:09
TheSheepnerous2:check the permissions21:11
TheSheepnerous2: in the directory's properties21:11
nerous2ok21:11
nerous2i have changed them to allow user21:12
nerous2is there something that i can look for to tell you that will help?21:12
nerous2afk21:14
nerous2back21:17
nerous2TheSheep: are you still there?21:26
TheSheepnerous2: no :)21:31
TheSheepnerous2: still not working?21:31
TheSheepnerous2: are you sure you're looking into the right menu?21:32
TheSheepnerous2: there are two kinds of themes, gtk themes, for general look of applications, and you change them in your user interface settings, and xfce themes, for the windows borders, and these are set in the window manager settings21:32
nerous2sorry i didnt realise you were back21:32
nerous2ok21:33
nerous2let me close all my windows, and then i will start from the begining ok?21:33
nerous2ready whenever you are21:34
TheSheepwhat kind of theme did you try to install?21:35
TheSheepgot a link?21:35
nerous2i have a few here21:35
nerous2i want to install file:///home/jason/Desktop/65299-Leopardish.tar.gz21:36
nerous2do you want the link to the theme on the web?21:36
TheSheepyes, that would be more useful21:36
nerous2of course21:36
FactTechQuestion: Does Xubuntu use ALSA by default?21:38
nerous2http://www.xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Leopardish?content=6529921:39
nerous2there you go TheSheep21:39
TheSheepFactTech: yes21:39
TheSheepnerous2: ok, it's a gtk theme21:39
TheSheepnerous2: you should have it listed under settings->user interface settings21:40
nerous2is that a bad think?21:40
TheSheepno, it's good21:40
nerous2ok...its still in tar.gz format on my desktop21:40
nerous2there are 3 files...21:40
nerous2i donwloaded all 321:40
TheSheepok, icons should go to /usr/share/icons21:41
TheSheepunpacked, of course21:41
TheSheeptheme to /usr/share/themes21:41
TheSheepand the mouse cursors too, I think21:42
FactTechTheSheep, Thanks. Do you happen to know why Xubuntu does not have a /etc/asound.conf file by default?21:42
nerous2in the themes folder?21:42
TheSheepFactTech: it autodetects by default21:43
TheSheepFactTech: yes, so you should have /usr/share/themes/Leopardish and /usr/share/themes/Leopardis-normal21:44
FactTechTheSheep, The reason I'm asking is... I had a persistent problem with intermittent clicking when playing sounds at certain bitrate/frequency combinations... I just went through a whole rigamarole to get a new sound card working. One thing I did was add a new /etc/asound.conf file, and that seems to have fixed it.21:44
TheSheepFactTech: you can just create that file21:45
TheSheepFactTech: it will be respected21:45
FactTechTheSheep, Is there any way to provide hints to the autodetect process without overriding everything?21:45
TheSheepno idea21:45
FactTechTheSheep, OK, well, thanks.21:45
TheSheepbut if it should be done, then it should be done globally21:45
TheSheepin that case, report a bug, and some developers will contact you for details21:46
TheSheepsee if the bug is not reported already21:46
TheSheephttp://bugs.ubuntu.com21:46
FactTechTheSheep, If I can reproduce it reliably, I will report it.21:46
nerous2TheSheep: how do i pull up the root file manager again21:46
TheSheepnerous2: gksu thunar21:47
nerous2thanks21:47
FactTechTheSheep, What does asound.conf feed into? I'm still learning my way around the sound subsystem(s).21:47
nerous2got it21:49
TheSheepFactTech: I guess it's used when running /etc/init.d/alsa-utils21:49
nerous2its working TheSheep21:50
nerous2except for my tool bars...they look.....bare!21:50
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TheSheepnerous2: that's because this theme was prepared for a patched system21:51
TheSheepnanonyme: that has the main menu at the top of the screen21:51
TheSheepnanonyme: sorry21:51
TheSheepnerous2: like macos21:51
TheSheepnerous2: use the -normal one for unpatched system21:52
FactTechTheSheep, Can I ask you one more newbie-type question? I have only one user set up on my box. I want to change the username (and home directory to match), but when I try to do it in usermod, it fails saying "can't lock password file". I assume this is because I am logged in as that user. Would this work if I started in single-user mode?21:52
nerous2oh ok21:52
TheSheepFactTech: probably21:53
FactTechTheSheep, And that's the same as "recovery mode" in the GRUB menu, right?21:53
TheSheepyes21:53
TheSheepthey sure like to invent new names for making things 'user firendly'21:54
FactTechTheSheep, OK, I'll give it a shot. I appreciate your help and your patience.21:54
nerous2TheSheep: i am trying to find the how to get the finder bar at the top22:03
TheSheepnerous2: it's definitely an advanced topic22:04
nerous2oh ok22:04
nerous2so i should basically stick with what ive got!22:04
FactTechWhat are the best reasons to upgrade to 7.10 from 7.04?22:06
TheSheepFactTech: restricted drivers manager, network manager, slightly newer xfce, new gimp22:08
TheSheepFactTech: depends on what you use, I guess22:08
nerous2thanks for your help TheSheep22:09
nerous2TheSheep: is it possible to install gnome on xubuntu22:11
TheSheepnerous2: yes22:11
nerous2nice22:11
nerous2ok22:11
TheSheepnerous2: you can have all three, xubuntu, ubuntu and kubuntu isntalled at the same time22:11
nerous2Sweet!22:11
TheSheepnerous2: ad choose which one to run on the login screen22:11
TheSheepnerous2: just install the ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop package22:11
nerous2ubuntu-desktop package?22:12
nerous2from the synaptic package installer22:12
TheSheepyes, it will install full ubuntu system together with your xubuntu22:13
TheSheepor you can install just the gnome22:13
TheSheepthen it won't install all the ubuntu apps22:13
nerous2yea i just need the gnome because i want to install mac4lin22:13
nerous2have you used that?22:13
TheSheepno22:13
nerous2oh.22:13
TheSheepsomehow I don't like the macos looks22:14
nerous2i used it when i was growing up.  really i want to get the term built in to the desktop22:14
nerous2i want to start using term more22:14
TheSheepthere is that 'verve commandline plugin'22:15
TheSheepyou can add it to your panel22:15
TheSheepand type commands into it22:15
nerous2my panel?22:15
TheSheepbut it's not like real terminal22:15
TheSheepyou know the two strips at the top and bottom of the screen22:15
TheSheepthese are panels22:15
nerous2Ah.  gotcha22:16
TheSheepyou can right-click on them and change their looks22:16
nerous2oh ok22:16
TheSheepand position and what's on them22:16
TheSheepfor example, mine looks like this: http://atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl/~sheep/shot.png22:16
nerous2cool22:18
nerous2how did you get the launchbar at the bottom22:18
nerous2and the terminal is almost see thru22:18
TheSheepnerous2: it's all in the options22:19
TheSheepnerous2: if you right-click and select 'preferences' or 'customize panel'22:19
nerous2cool22:21
TheSheepnerous2: to get transparency and shadows you need to enable compsotign in settings->window manager tweaks22:21
nerous2got it22:23
TheSheepcompositing, sorry :)22:23
nerous2thats ok22:24
TheSheepnerous2: good night, and good luck with your new desktop22:24
nerous2thanks TheSheep22:24
nerous2same to you, thanks for your help22:25
Rohsputinahi. i wish to to install xubuntu(using grub) to hdb.on hda i have windows and wish to boot back and forth once in a while ( hda or hdb ) will the grub used on hdb have any effect when i boot my hda (windows only)22:28
nerous2hey all23:00
nerous2hey can anyone help me with this probelm?23:04
nerous2"The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:Deskbar_Applet".23:04
nerous2Do you want to delete the applet from your configuration?"23:04
nerous2its a GNOME error23:04

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