[00:20] <``Cube> hello, im a tango artist. does any project need an icon?
[00:22] <daniel_ki> uuuuuuuuhh
[00:22] <daniel_ki> not right now, but I'll take your card :)
[00:22] <jelmer> ``Cube: Hey again :-) bzr-svn still needs one
[00:23] <``Cube> hehe ;
[00:23] <``Cube> ;)
[00:23] <``Cube> don't you like my current proposition?
[00:23] <``Cube> canonical didn't respond yet
[00:23] <daniel_ki> you'll soon have all the chicks you want, trust me
[00:23] <daniel_ki> artists are in short supply
[00:24] <jelmer> ``Cube: current proposition?
[00:24]  * daniel_ki just hopes Cube is not female; after that remark
[00:24] <``Cube> been sent to the bzr-gtk mailing list
[00:24] <jelmer> that was the generic bzr-gtk one I think?
[00:24] <jelmer> bzr-svn is a subproject of Bazaar, not part of bzr-gtk
[00:38] <``Cube> oh ok, jelmer
[01:13] <jml> ``Cube: well, you know that LP needs a new logo
[01:13] <``Cube> launchpad?
[01:13] <jml> yeah
[01:13] <jml> there's a contest and everything
[01:13] <``Cube> that awesome logo gotta be replaced?
[01:14] <``Cube> may I get a link?
[01:14] <jml> you are talking about the rocket?
[01:14] <jml> sure
[01:14] <``Cube> yea
[01:14] <jml> http://www.understated.co.uk/2008/launchpad-logo-competition/
[01:15] <``Cube> thanks!
[05:28] <kitblake> the edge machine is not connecting, is there a maintenance window?
[06:30] <Rinchen> kitblake, howdy
[06:30] <Rinchen> kitblake, we normally do a refresh nightly.  
[06:31] <Rinchen> however honestly I don't know. It's been down now for a few hours.  I've sent off some inquires and also am going to create an entry on it's maintenance window so that everyone knows. 
[06:32] <Rinchen> I should have the times and such available next week.  I'll probably have Matt Revell post it in the normal places.
[06:33] <kitblake> Rinchen: thanks for the info, I won't "wait a few minutes" :)
[06:33] <Rinchen> Good plan :-)
[06:33] <Rinchen> It's painful for me too because I was doing edits on edge
[06:33] <Rinchen> I'm not normally up this late so I don't know if it's normal. Either way, we should publish the window
[06:34] <kitblake> yes, I tried using another browser to view non-edge, but then I logged in, back to wait a few minutes
[06:34] <kitblake> had to delete the cookie
[06:34] <Rinchen> hmm that's interesting. You should just be able to push the 'disable redirect' button on the homepage and be happy for 2 hours
[06:34] <kitblake> oh!
[06:34] <kitblake> I'll try that next time
[06:48] <Rinchen> kitblake, well, turns out it's a real problem! Edge did it's QA job and found something.
[06:58] <Rinchen> Edge is back up
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #182223 in rosetta "KDE importer trying to None.split()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182223
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #182235 in rosetta "POHeader substitutes "now" for missing PO-Revision-Date" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182235
[10:04] <test_sab> morning all
[12:39] <tiagosab> Hi!
[12:39] <tiagosab> Is there a way to use sun-java to build a package?
[12:40] <tiagosab> In ppa, I mean.
[12:40] <Fujitsu> tiagosab: Not at this time, I don't believe.
[12:40] <Fujitsu> You couldn't a few days ago, although somebody was looking at fixing that.
[12:51] <geser> Fujitsu: shouldn't it work in the hardy chroots? elmo preseeded the sun license debconf question
[12:51] <Fujitsu> geser: Not in PPA.
[12:52] <Fujitsu> Oh, true, in Hardy, you're right.
[12:52] <geser> they use a different chroot tarball?
[12:52] <Fujitsu> Just not previous DistroSeries... but most people will be doing it for Gutsy or so.
[12:52] <tiagosab> In Hardy I am building with icedtea, it's ok.
[12:52] <tiagosab> Is there a bug about that?
[12:52] <Fujitsu> The appropriate people have been notified.
[12:54] <tiagosab> Fujitsu: Thanks. I was just looking for a place where to look at to know if it has changed.
[13:00] <mpt> Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!
[13:00] <Fujitsu> Hi mpt.
[13:18] <Rashomon> mpt: Ahoy
[13:18] <Rashomon> (damned be it I have a slow response time today ;) )
[13:27] <Fujitsu> bigjools: Hi. Are you able to look at what happened to the checkstyle binary in hardy? It was promoted to universe about 2 hours before cprov mentioned that bug #178102 was fixed, and it now seems to have two superseded universe BinaryPackagePublishings.
[13:27] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 178102 in soyuz "(Pro|De)motion loses arch: all binaries" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178102 - Assigned to Celso Providelo (cprov)
[13:27] <Fujitsu> (so has vanished)
[13:31] <ubotu> New bug: #182281 in malone "No tabs work on bug attachment page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182281
[13:31] <ubotu> New bug: #182282 in malone "Patch checkbox caption is silly on bug attachment page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182282
[13:36] <ubotu> New bug: #182286 in malone ""Content Type:" on bug attachment page is editable even when it has no effect" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182286
[13:41] <ubotu> New bug: #182289 in malone ""Delete attachment" is incorrect capitalization" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182289
[14:04] <mpt> (I just encountered the bug attachment page for the first time -- can you tell?:-)
[14:07] <Fujitsu> mpt: Heh. Good to see you waving your magic usability wand over less-used bits :)
[14:10] <ubotu> New bug: #182296 in launchpad "Offline ("Please try again") page contents are tipped to the left" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182296
[15:03] <sivang> has anyone seen kiko ?
[15:04] <Hobbsee> he got eaten
[15:04]  * Fujitsu hasn't seen him on IRC in a while.
[15:04] <sivang> Hobbsee !
[15:04] <Hobbsee> heya sivang!
[15:05] <sivang> Hobbsee: how you been, what are you doing on the launchpad channel ?
[15:05] <Hobbsee> sivang: been at work, slowly going mad, and i tend to do support on here, or at least poke people in the right direction.
[15:05] <sivang> Hobbsee: nice, where do you work now?
[15:06] <Hobbsee> sivang: where i was before.  it's more maddening than before though
[15:06] <sivang> Hobbsee: in that supermarket ?
[15:06]  * Hobbsee really dislikes unwritten rules that change at least once a week, often by different people, where one gets yelled at when one follows the old proceedures, or otherwise guesses what the heck they're supposed to be.
[15:06] <Hobbsee> sivang: yeah
[15:07] <sivang> crap
[15:07] <sivang> I read you now
[15:07]  * sivang hugs Hobbsee 
[15:07]  * Hobbsee hugs sivang
[15:07]  * Hobbsee did not have her psychic cereal this morning.
[15:08] <Hobbsee> sivang: you?
[15:08] <sivang> Hobbsee: I'm mostly fine, getting back to myself slowly
[15:09] <Hobbsee> not been bombed to pieces, then.  good!
[15:11] <sivang> almost :)
[15:11] <sivang> I was close
[15:11] <sivang> hehe
[15:12] <sivang> the recent crisis was at least not war oriented :)
[15:12] <sivang> but that's something for a private chat
[15:12] <Hobbsee> ahhh
[15:25] <ubotu> New bug: #182315 in launchpad-bazaar ""Set team policy" is incorrect capitalization" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182315
[16:06] <ubotu> New bug: #182324 in malone "Exirable bug list contains private bugs" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182324
[16:07]  * Hobbsee sighs
[16:07] <Hobbsee> ...yay?
[16:54] <LucidFox> Could someone rerun the inkblot build in Hardy?
[16:54] <LucidFox> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/inkblot/0.99.9-0ubuntu1
[17:20] <lamont> dear launchpad.  as a buildd-admin, I want the ability to take a package that is 'Failed to Build', and move it to 'DepWait' with a dep-wait package name.  kthxbye
[17:27] <geser> lamont: what's the "fix" for "Failed to upload"? A retry of the build?
[17:27] <lamont> geser: that was my thought... OTOH, infinity is the right one to ask that question of
[17:28] <lamont> and I need to run off to find my family before they shoot me, back later
[17:28] <geser> ok, have fun
[17:29] <ScottK> lamont: They have to find you to shoot you, so finding is just a matter of waiting.
[17:31] <lamont> ScottK: it's more of a 'find my family before them shooting me becomes a definite act'
[17:31] <mpt> lamont, #launchpad functions poorly as a bug tracker.
[17:31] <pochu> lamont: did you see bug 160439?
[17:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 160439 in launchpad-buildd "Some builds fail when they should depwait" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160439 - Assigned to Adam Conrad (adconrad)
[17:33] <lamont> pochu: yeah.  even so, there are some build failures that only become depwaits after about 10 minutes of rooting through the cause of the failure.  Parsing the build log won't tell you the right answer
[17:33] <lamont> and at least some of what 160439 is probably pointing at aren't parsable either
[17:34] <lamont> (depends foo but foo will not be installed --> figure out what package build needs to happen to make it installable)
[17:34] <lamont> and really gone
[17:34]  * lamont really needs mutlihat to show up, too.
[17:35] <lamont> on the bright side, I basically remember what I used to be able to do, and just stay away from all the new buttons... :-)
[17:52] <Ullner> Hi. When can one expect a project's translation .pot file be reviewed? I submitted the .pot file for the dcplusplus project over a week ago and it hasn't been reviewed.
[17:54] <Ullner> (I couldn't find any info on the mailing list, FAQ or Question tracker.)
[18:09] <LucidFox> Ullner> Some of my .po's are waiting since October :(
[18:17] <Ullner> LucidFox: Have you sent a mail or something? It seems weird that it'd take that amount of time to review.
[18:20] <Ullner> (The current file isn't even large; 108 lines, of which there are ~20 translations.)
[18:55] <carlesoriol> It's comething wrong with launchpad?
[18:55] <carlesoriol> I'm trying to push for 30 minutes withous success
[19:21] <ubotu> New bug: #182378 in malone "Adding project/distribution without bug watch shouldn't ask for confirmation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182378
[20:44] <Laibsch> I see their is an svn and cvs import tool for "launchpad code".  Would it be possible to have one for monotone as well?
[20:44] <Laibsch> How is one supposed to search through the bugs in launchpad?
[20:44] <Laibsch> Especially when it is not clear in what project the bug might have been registered?
[20:46] <mpt> Laibsch, we don't seem to have a bug reported asking for monotone support yet. Perhaps you'd like to report it? <https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+filebug>
[20:47] <mpt> Laibsch, if you want to search through *all* the bugs reported in Launchpad, you can do that from <https://bugs.launchpad.net/>.
[20:47] <Laibsch> mpt: OK, I will
[20:47] <Laibsch> Thanks
[20:55] <Laibsch> mpt: RFE done
[20:57] <mpt> thanks
[21:00] <ubotu> New bug: #182396 in launchpad-bazaar "integration with monotone" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182396
[21:10] <ubotu> New bug: #182397 in soyuz "endless registration loop to try and get CDs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182397
[21:32] <Laibsch> mpt: Do you know of a way to search for my bugs (I reported or commented) that have the word partition anywhere, regardless of status (open, closed)
[21:34] <Laibsch> mpt: launchpad search still sucks
[21:34] <Laibsch> I finally found the bug I was trying to locate
[21:34] <Laibsch> bug 139230
[21:34] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 139230 in sysvinit "/var is mounted too late during the init sequence" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139230 - Assigned to Scott James Remnant (keybuk)
[21:35] <Laibsch> Clearly has both words var and partition all over the place but took me forever and the help of google to locate
[21:35] <afflux> Laibsch: it took me 3 seconds using launchpad search
[21:35] <afflux> didn't even need to use the advanced form
[21:36] <afflux> okay, for closed bugs you need the advanced
[21:36] <Laibsch> afflux: OK, maybe I am dumb or not affluent enough with launchpad or both
[21:36] <Laibsch> what did you use for searching?
[21:37] <Laibsch> my first complaint about launchpad search is for example accessability
[21:37] <afflux> Laibsch: just go to https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~r0lf/, click advanced search, check all statuses, enter "partition" in the search form, click "search"
[21:37] <Laibsch> Oftentimes when I thought I was using bug search I was really in project search mode
[21:38] <afflux> oh, that should be https://bugs.launchpad.net/~r0lf/
[21:38] <Laibsch> afflux: I will try in a minute
[21:38] <Laibsch> Let's assume now you did not know, I had commented on that bug
[21:38] <Laibsch> Or assume in fact I never did
[21:38] <Laibsch> How do you find the bug with the words var and partition
[21:38] <Laibsch> ?
[21:39] <Laibsch> Without google
[21:40] <afflux> then you'd go to bugs.launchpad.net, enter "var partition" (without quotes of course), click search, click advanced search if you want to see all states
[21:41] <afflux> note that var doesn't seem to match /var.
[21:41] <Laibsch> well, neither of these two result sets includes 139230 when I look!
[21:42] <afflux> oh, it should
[21:42] <Laibsch> Agreed
[21:42] <afflux> err, it should match, i mean
[21:42] <Laibsch> but it does not
[21:42] <Laibsch> not when I look
[21:42] <Laibsch> afflux: Did you actually try when making your 2 second claim?
[21:43] <afflux> which second?
[21:43] <Laibsch> oh, it was a 3 second claim
[21:43] <Laibsch> (22:35:33) afflux: Laibsch: it took me 3 seconds using launchpad search
[21:43] <afflux> ah, that one
[21:44] <Laibsch> so, you actually tried?
[21:44] <Laibsch> when making that claim
[21:44] <afflux> i think so, but I may have mixed up with your other bug in sysvinit
[21:44] <afflux> yes, I have.
[21:44] <Laibsch> OK
[21:45] <afflux> I'm not a launchpad expert, but it could be that the search only searches in the initial report, not the comments.
[21:46] <Laibsch> afflux: http://tinyurl.com/ywjqnu is the result I get
[21:46] <Laibsch> OK, I guess I convinced you, then.
[21:47] <afflux> Laibsch: as I said, i mixed the bug you actually searched up with the wishlist one in sysvinit for the swapfiles
[21:50] <Laibsch> IOW, the bug 139230, although it should be returned, is nowhere to be found
[21:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 139230 in sysvinit "/var is mounted too late during the init sequence" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139230 - Assigned to Scott James Remnant (keybuk)
[21:51] <Laibsch> google turns it up quickly
[21:51] <Laibsch> -> launchpad search sucks
[21:51] <Laibsch> since it cannot even do something so trivial and essential
[21:51] <Laibsch> don't mean to step on anyone's toes
[21:52] <Laibsch> but it *severely* limits launchpad's functionality despite the wealth of data it has
[22:05] <ubotu> New bug: #182407 in malone "launchpad search functionality sucks" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182407
[23:40] <SteveA> Laibsch: we'll be improving the search a lot over the coming few months
[23:40] <SteveA> Laibsch: I know it's a problem sometimes
[23:41] <Laibsch> SteveA: That would be great
[23:41] <Laibsch> Alas, I believe I was told the same thing about a year ago
[23:41] <SteveA> we like to give you lots of notice :-)
[23:42] <SteveA> actually, this time, we have people allocated to work on it, who have agreed to a deadline etc.
[23:42] <SteveA> so, I'm very confident about this
[23:42] <Laibsch> well, would be nice indeed
[23:42] <Laibsch> thanks for letting me know
[23:43] <SteveA> well, thanks for talking about it here, where we can see what you're finding useful and what you're finding frustrating
[23:48] <Ubulette> hm, i've pushed a package to my ppa 4+ hours ago, it's still not visible in the queue (I didn't get a reject either)
[23:49] <Fujitsu> Ubulette: Did you get any kind of email from Launchpad about it?
[23:49] <Ubulette> no
[23:50] <Fujitsu> Ubulette: Are you sure it was signed by a key that Launchpad knows about?
[23:50] <Ubulette> yes
[23:51] <Fujitsu> It didn't have anything silly in the control file, such as an obfuscated email address in either the Maintainer or Changed-By fields?
[23:51] <Ubulette> no
[23:52] <Fujitsu> You'll have to poke somebody with access to the processing logs, then :(
[23:55] <Ubulette> looking at ppa builders logs, nothing has been built in the last 24h
[23:56] <Ubulette> oh, everything just started :)