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a_cuozzoHow is everyone?06:15
a_cuozzoI have a question regarding package submission.06:15
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pwnguinno chokeholds06:16
a_cuozzolol06:17
a_cuozzoI am interested in making a debian package of Tom Christiansen's Perl Power Tools.06:18
ScottKa_cuozzo: #ubuntu-motu is a better channel for how to package questions.06:19
a_cuozzoAh, I know how to make the package.06:19
a_cuozzoI was wondering if there would be any interest in submitting it to the repos.06:19
a_cuozzoWhere can I find out if there would be an interest in submitting it?06:20
Burgundaviaa_cuozzo: you need #ubuntu-motu06:20
a_cuozzoOkay, I will go there. Thank you :)06:21
kagouGood morning09:05
tjaaltonion_: could you check bug 18223710:11
ubotuLaunchpad bug 182237 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 "restricted manager does not recognize nvidia 8600M GT on hardy" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18223710:11
tjaaltonnvidia_supported doesn't work anymore for 169.0710:12
ion_tjaalton: I’ll take a look at it.10:21
tjaaltonion_: great, thanks10:26
UsiuHi, Do you import additonal packages to 7.10 or its freezed ?10:28
persiaUsiu: We can import, but evaluate new packages to make sure they don't break anything else.10:28
StevenK7.10 is frozen10:29
persiaAh.  Right.  My mistake.  7.10 is frozen.  8.04 is open.10:29
StevenKIt's released, and finished with, except for critical bug fixes and security updates.10:29
UsiuOk thanks10:30
scizzo-I am not sure if it is of any interest to put in ubuntu now but there is a svn package version of inkscape on the website if someone wants to give it a go10:36
UsiuStevenK, but ubuntu page states that merg with debian has already been freezed10:37
UsiuStevenK, so is it still possible to add packages in this case ?10:37
StevenKUsiu: For Hardy, yes, if it's justifiable10:44
YokoZarCould I get a quick outside opinion?  I'm worried about starting a conflict in a bug: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-games/+bug/13871310:56
ubotuLaunchpad bug 138713 in gnome-games "Gnometris uses Gnome foot logo instead of Ubuntu theme" [Wishlist,Invalid]10:56
persiaYokoZar: It's an #ubuntu-desktop decision.  I can see your point, but it needs to be done in a way that can easily be overridden with a -themes package or similar to support in-distro flavour variation.11:03
YokoZarpersia: thanks, that makes some sense11:04
YokoZarpersia: all it is at this point is just changing one file (albeit one part of the gnome-games package)11:04
persiaYokoZar: still #ubuntu-desktop (gnome-games is main, and gnome)11:06
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ion_tjaalton: I attached a new version of nvidia_supported to the bug report.11:30
ion_tjaalton: Since the PCI ID list isn’t the first symbol of the file anymore, i found another consistent thing between all the releases: there are always two subsequent symbols with the identical PCI ID list. So now the script finds that.11:31
tjaaltonion_: cool, thanks11:32
ion_Has someone planned on working on autoselecting the proper nvidia driver release on startup based on connected hardware?11:33
tjaaltonwithout using restricted-manager to fiddle with the xorg.conf?11:34
ion_Yep11:34
ion_Symlinks instead11:34
tjaaltonwhat symlinks?11:34
ion_nvidia.o → nvidia-123.45.67.o, libGL.so.something → nvidia’s libGL for the same driver release11:35
ion_Could be updated using the alternatives system.11:35
ion_Anyway, if someone feels like implementing that, this program should be helpful. I’m trying to get it uploaded to Ubuntu. http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=hardware-connected11:36
tjaaltonso you could have all those installed?11:36
ion_It can be used almost directly against /usr/share/linux-restricted-modules/$(uname -r)/modules.alias.override/nvidia11:36
ion_I was thinking that there would be just a single nvidia-glx that would contain all the releases, and the system would pick the correct one on startup.11:36
tjaaltonI don't know.. there are plans though to automatically use the binary driver instead of nv, if it's installed11:41
geserHobbsee: Hi, could you please give-back dom4j. Thanks.12:00
Hobbseegeser: done12:02
Kmosgeser: it won't work.. no build records in hardy. - bug 18198112:03
ubotuLaunchpad bug 181981 in dom4j "Rebuild dom4j to create an hardy build record" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18198112:03
geserargh12:03
Hobbseeerm, /me looks12:04
Kmosgeser: if you want to sponsor the upload to make it building.. :)12:04
Hobbseewow, that's classy12:04
FujitsuThat's actually bug #181328.12:04
ubotuLaunchpad bug 181328 in soyuz "no build records for previously-failed builds" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18132812:04
HobbseeFujitsu: which is listed on there, yes12:04
FujitsuAh, right.12:05
FujitsuSoyuz isn't actually that bad here, as DEPWAIT and FAILED builds do get new records in the next distroseries...12:06
FujitsuJust CHROOTWAIT doesn't, as far as I can see.12:06
geserlooks like we really need an upload for a build retry12:06
Hobbseegeser: it appears so12:07
FujitsuThat would fix it, but is a hack.12:07
HobbseeFujitsu: yes, but this is soyuz.12:07
geserFujitsu: true, is there any other alternative to waiting till this bug is fixed and the affected packages got retried in hardy?12:08
Kmosgeser: cprov told me he don't know if he could do it for next version of launchpad, so it can take ages..12:08
Fujitsugeser: I doubt it.12:08
Hobbseegeser: unless they manually generate build records for all affected packages (who knows how many)..12:08
HobbseeFujitsu: you really should start working on it, and remove some of the crack.12:09
geserI will check then the chrootwait list for gutsy and see how many packages still need a upload for a rebuild12:09
geserKmos: I'll upload it, for the next time: please close your bug in your changelog entry12:10
Hobbseegeser: hopefully most of it will be picked up with the autosyncs, where the later versions get tried12:11
Hobbseeor users complain12:11
Kmosgeser: thanks! sorry.. i'll remember that next time..12:11
persiaHobbsee: We've hundreds of packages for which neither of those conditions get hit, unfortunately12:12
Hobbseepersia: cruft, or actual useful stuff?12:12
FujitsuBuilds failing due to chroot failures should very rarely make a release...12:12
persiaHobbsee: define cruft12:12
Hobbseepersia: okay, so crap that people care about, vs crap that they don't.12:13
Hobbseewhere people == users, devs, etc12:13
FujitsuUrgh, why wasn't that given back months earlier?12:13
HobbseeFujitsu: no build records?12:13
HobbseeFujitsu: oh, originally?12:13
persiaHobbsee: Umm.  If it didn't get updated, and nobody complained, I'd think that was obvious :)12:13
FujitsuI mean the gutsy one.12:13
Hobbseepersia: right.  true12:13
Hobbseepersia: how many packages are we talking about there?12:13
persiaI'm not sure right now.  Fujitsu, do you still have those scripts around?12:14
Kmosalso others packages are failing because we don't have right now a locales-all replace, langpack-locales isn't prepared to handle it..12:14
Fujitsupersia: Probably. I can easily mangle them to work out any non-superseded chrootwait builds in Gutsy.12:15
* Hobbsee wonders if the great hardy lot got given back12:15
StevenKThe simplest way to do is by asking the database. Typical.12:15
FujitsuStevenK: That works too.12:15
FujitsuHobbsee: We don't seem to have any chrootwait in Hardy at the moment.12:15
persiaFujitsu: I think it'd be interesting to see not just only non-superseded chrootwait builds, but also non-superceded FTBFS for any reason.12:15
StevenKWhich would work if you begged an LP admin12:16
Fujitsupersia: Best to run the normal FTBFS script over Gutsy, then.12:16
persiaFujitsu: Makes sense.12:16
HobbseeFujitsu: oh, so it did.  good12:18
persiaFujitsu: Wait, won't that also show superceded builds?12:18
Fujitsupersia: geser's only lists those failures that are in the last version of each source package, I believe.12:20
persiaFujitsu: That would be good.  I'll post it somewhere when it finishes12:21
geserFujitsu: yes, as it doesn't make sense to list FTBFS for package version which might be fixed in the current version12:23
Fujitsugeser: Of course, that makes sense.12:23
geserI could run the script against gutsy if there is interest12:24
persiageser: I'm running with s/hardy/gutsy/ now, but it might be interesting to run against feisty and dapper to see if we missed any FTBFS SRUs.12:24
persiaOr rather, to catch any FTBFS that haven't been updated in a while.12:25
geserFTBFS stats for dapper: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/~geser/build_status-dapper/12:36
geserFTBFS stats for feisty: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/~geser/build_status-feisty/12:36
persiageser: Are all those still outstanding?12:44
* persia is especially surprised to see 39 packages in main12:45
Fujitsupersia: Most of those are fine.12:46
FujitsuThey're arch-specific things that appeared before Soyuz had P-a-s.12:46
persiaFujitsu: I'd say OOo is really the only one that matters, but I haven't heard a lot of complaints from Dapper OOo users, so it may not be as important as it looks.12:47
geserFTBFS stats for gutsy: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/~geser/build_status-gutsy/12:57
geserluckily only 3 packages in chrootwait12:58
madmachi, i would like to know if is possible to create a patch with diff that creates directories13:01
madmaci am trying but dont know how13:01
* persia stops my run, presuming it to be terribly slow for some reason.13:04
mjj29madmac: patch should just create the dir if you try and patch a new file in it13:05
persiaSo it is only CHROOTWAIT packages that don't automatically get requeued for the next release, or are there hidden FTBFS issues remaining?  Are the 499 packages identified as FTBFS for dapper in addition to those for gutsy or hardy, or does it only check within a release?13:06
Fujitsupersia: depwait and failed builds get new records created, which doesn't leave much.13:07
FujitsuPerhaps upload failures, however.13:07
persiaI don't think any of the upload failures are much concern.  They seem to be all lpia or hppa (which are both sort of special), except for m17-contrib and ion3, both of which I think are gone now.13:10
madmacmjj29: patch tell me "patch: **** Can't rename file /tmp/poXkD8Ax to modules/net/  : Not a directory"13:10
mjj29madmac: what does the patch say?13:10
madmacbecause net doesnt exisit13:10
madmacpatch says that13:11
mjj29no, what's the actual patch13:11
mjj29can you pastebin it or something?13:11
madmacthe actual patch is a file inside net directory13:11
mjj29madmac: ok, can you spell out exactly what you are doing13:12
madmaccreating a patch for adding a new file inside a new directory that doesnt exist13:12
mjj29I just did: mkdir -p a/b; mkdir newa; echo 'hi' > a/b/c; diff -urN newa a > diff; cd newa; patch -p1 < ../diff13:12
mjj29and it said:13:13
mjj29patching file b/c13:13
mjj29and created the directory b and the file c13:13
mjj29madmac: how are you trying to do it?13:13
mjj29what commands are you running13:13
mjj29what is the text in the diff which you are trying to apply13:13
mjj29be more specific or we can't help13:13
geserpersia: I've upload libswidgets-java to get a build record in hardy13:14
persiageser: Excellent.  Thanks.13:14
madmacdiff -Naur old/modules/net/ new/modules/net/socket.c > patch13:15
geserpersia: but for libjempbox-java I need someone first who can resurrect checkstyle which got eaten by the move to universe (arch:all bug)13:15
madmacthen patch -p113:15
geserpersia: so (almost) all chrootwait from gutsy are handled now13:16
Fujitsugeser: They're back.13:16
persiageser: Thanks for digging those out.  Do you think it is worth checking edgy as well?  For pre-Dapper, I think other issues would be more important.13:17
mjj29madmac: I assume you can't just do diff -aurN old new ?13:18
madmacno, there are binaries and makefiles13:19
mjj29madmac:13:19
geserFujitsu: then is the mirror I use a little back behind13:19
Fujitsugeser: Oh dear, maybe it got missed.13:20
mjj29cd ..; cp -lR new new.orig; rm new.orig/modules/net/socket.c; diff -aurN new.orig new > patch13:20
* Fujitsu looks.13:20
Fujitsucprov said he'd restored them all.13:20
madmacmjj29: thanks i got it13:21
madmacmjj29: the problem was that i didnt specified the file in old13:22
Fujitsugeser: That was only demoted a couple of days ago. That's really odd.13:22
mjj29madmac: oh, right13:22
mjj29madmac: yeah, of course that works13:22
Fujitsugeser: It was promoted ~2 hours before the code was fixed, so it may not have made cprov's list.13:23
* Fujitsu is confused as to why there are two universe records there, 5 minutes apart.13:24
* geser hopes that we have soon all arch:all packages back13:27
geserpersia: FTBFS stats for edgy: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/~geser/build_status-edgy/13:29
Fujitsugeser: Most of them seem to have been restored, but apparently not all :(13:30
persiageser: Wonderful.  No candidates that need a poke.  I suspect that the hardy stats are now up to date.13:30
persia(excepting libjempbox-java)13:30
stgrabercd13:31
Kmosgeser: dom4j built with success :)13:50
MetaMorfoziShi all14:08
MetaMorfoziSi wanted to try the hardy heron 8.04 cd, and i has a problem, is the good place to say/ask about that?14:09
MetaMorfoziSlive*14:09
ion_Please read the topic.14:09
MetaMorfoziSooh sorry14:10
tormodogra: ping14:10
Hobbseetormod: it's the weekend14:19
tormodHobbsee: so what? :)14:20
Hobbseetormod: canonical employees don't tend to work weekends unless there's a very good reason fro it14:20
tormodHobbsee: they're too healthy I guess. But he's logged in, so it's reasonable to check if he's here.14:22
Hobbseeheh14:24
Hobbseetrue14:24
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* lamont wonders if libcaca should not build-dep on mono-gmcs on hppa, or if that'd just make it ftbfs16:35
lamontlibapache2-mod-perl2 is d-w locales-all everywhere...16:59
bigonis someone working on bug 182155 ?18:42
ubotuLaunchpad bug 182155 in cli-common "Please sync cli-common 0.5.6 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18215518:42
pochubigon: you need to wait for an archive admin to sync it.18:44
bigonyeah I know, the sync is needed to fix bug 18213018:45
ubotuLaunchpad bug 182130 in libflickrnet "package libflickrnet2.1.5-cil 25277-5 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18213018:46
pochubigon: but archive admins aren't around, as it's saturday... your best bet is to poke Hobbsee when she's back, if that's urgent.18:47
bigonok, I will ask her18:47
* lamont notes that upx-ucl fails to build these days19:56
\shStevenK: ping inventor...can you describe in a short sentence when you mean with20:08
\sh  * Hack libInventorWidget.a to not build MyColorEditor, as it also uses GLw20:08
\sh    now.20:08
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choudesh__Hi all.21:17
choudesh__does anyone know how to add dist and pool folders to the liveCD? I am remaster a liveCD but when I add the Dist/Pool folders for apt-cdrom, squashfs fails to load21:18
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lamontdpatch.  #$&^*(%)_*_$&#%^*(&)^(_... pain.23:54

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