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telexiconHow on earth do I disable gdm?00:30
MenZaAs in... stop gdm?00:31
telexiconyes.. /etc/init.d/gdm stop doesnt work anymore00:31
fruitbagHey01:46
MenZaHerro.01:47
fruitbagI have a problem: whenever I boot Ubuntu from disk and run it, I get an out-of-range resolution message from my monitor.01:47
forsakeni just installed hardy and my mouse when i drag down the right side doesn't scroll, it did in alpha 2, anyone know why this is?02:01
forsakendell intel laptop02:01
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selckinchoudesh_: needs a stable connection02:29
telexiconis something wrong with the I/O scheduler in hardy?02:52
telexiconim on gigabit and trying to copy a file across gigabit over ftp and I can only get 10MB/s02:53
telexiconon gutsy I was able to get 50MB/s02:53
telexiconwell i dunno if thats IO scheduler.. could be a driver thing.. the system lags out so much while transferring it becomes unusable02:56
kevogodWhat kind of success are people having with the latest alpha release?03:01
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LimCorecan I use kernel 2.6.19.2 with my 7.10 ?  or is it too old?03:45
HobbseeLimCore: this is not 7.10 support03:47
LimCoreand for Hardy?03:47
LimCorewell, never mind03:47
HobbseeLimCore: you can try, but don't expect support for it03:49
crimsunright, so alsa* fixed from earlier.  Apologies for the logic snafu.04:50
ryanpghey, I've got a weird one. I'm running hardy on a toshiba satellite A215, USB devices work once (I can plug a mouse in and it will be found) but only once, if a device is unplugged USB will be disabled04:53
ryanpgdmesg won't even report an attached device04:54
ryanpgBUT04:54
ryanpgif I run lsusb the device (like a mouse) will be found!04:54
ryanpgit has to be attached when I run lsusb however04:54
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ryanpgit doesn't appear in /proc/bus/usb either05:20
blkorpheus?05:23
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richard_I want to help out more with ubuntu where should I start?06:00
DanaGOh yeah, something new with ALSA?06:00
teethdoodtotem is beyond stuttering...it's crawling frame by frame. I used to edit the preferences and changed the video plugin to something else06:01
teethdoodbut the preferences menu is gone!06:01
DanaGOh, and here's a novel use of PulseAudio: allow people to use the Dolby Digital encoding on nvidia's ancient, abandoned nvsound / nvaudio OSS drivers with ALSAapps.06:01
crimsunbypass ALSA altogether and just use OSSv4 (or newer) as the backend.06:02
DanaGDoesn't do the Dolby Digital ENcoding.  I don't need it, but some people do.06:02
DanaGUnless I'm misinterpreting your response.06:03
DanaGhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=253725&page=1606:03
DanaGoopsie, wrong page of the thread, but whatever.06:04
sparr_do -backports questions belong here?07:26
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Oli``Does X lock (for a second or two) up intermittently for anybody here when you use the main menu (notably Places, for me)?09:53
mlpugI took hardy test 3, downloaded sources and compiled dvb/dvb-usb modules. outputted .ko files are roughly ten times as big as the corresponding .ko files under /lib/modules. Any idea why is this? Is this OK?11:04
DarkMageZdebugging symbols could be part of it.11:05
picard_pwns_kirkhow do I configure my touchpad?12:22
picard_pwns_kirkI want to enable edge scrolling, and disable the tap to click, but there's no xorg.conf file12:22
picard_pwns_kirkis there any way I can set this?12:29
Tomcat_picard_pwns_kirk: You can try gsynaptics12:44
picard_pwns_kirkalready did12:44
picard_pwns_kirkneeds a setting in the xorg.conf file12:44
Tomcat_picard_pwns_kirk: man synaptics12:46
picard_pwns_kirkit refers me to a bunch of settings in the xorg.conf12:48
picard_pwns_kirkand I've already tried creating one by hand12:48
Tomcat_picard_pwns_kirk: Well, that's about how you configure your touchpad. ;)12:49
* Hobbsee suspects picard_pwns_kirk was looking in the wrong place, or did a typo, or something12:49
Hobbseexorg.conf's usually get generated, unless they get deleted12:49
picard_pwns_kirknew version of xrog12:49
picard_pwns_kirkxorg**12:49
picard_pwns_kirkread the release notes12:50
Tomcat_picard_pwns_kirk: http://www.compass.com/synaptics/ <- That's the only other thing I can suggest.12:50
Hobbseepicard_pwns_kirk: sure, but i thought they still generated an xorg.conf by default anyway12:51
picard_pwns_kirkhopefully it gets fixed, I'll subscribe to any bugs12:51
Tomcat_Well, in Alpha 3 there is one. ;)12:51
Tomcat_It's just... barely empty.12:51
Tomcat_Eh, almost empty.12:54
mlpugwhere is information about the role of the files in /lib/firmware? when are they used and what triggers their use? do drivers have "pointer" to corresponding .fw and when driver is loaded then .fw is loaded to the device or what is this?13:00
Tomcat_mlpug: See /etc/udev/rules.d/80-programs.rules ... seems udev is doing that when a driver is loaded.13:07
Tomcat_mlpug: Some (sparse) info is available in /usr/share/doc/udev13:08
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Tomcat_mlpug: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/hotplug/udev.git;a=blob_plain;f=extras/firmware/firmware.sh;hb=HEAD <--- See this for what the firmware_helper does13:11
EnselicI have just upgrade from Gutsy to Hardy Alpha 3, and gnome-panel crashes for me because of this: gnome-panel: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgio-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: glib_gettext. Any clues? libglib2.0-0 seems to be up to date14:02
EnselicAh right, I have my own versino of gnome-panel in /usr/local...14:03
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EnselicUm what password should I use to unlock id_rsa? Neither login or key pass works16:00
Enselicnor*16:00
selckinthe one you used to create it16:07
Enselicthat's the "key pass" and I have tried that16:12
EnselicI discovered that if I take Deny, ssh will still be able to use the key..16:12
LjLNOTICE - KDE 4.0 support is to be obtained in #kubuntu-kde416:19
_stress_do you know any good "webpage creator" for linux that does the same work as dreamwave?16:24
DanaGThat's odd: you can no longer set the brightness of the LCD when on battery.18:02
DanaGNow it's just "Reduce Backlight Brightness".18:02
DanaGAnd the logic of "Brightness when on battery" in gconf is BACKWARDS.18:06
DanaGI set it to 63%, I get 37% brightness, and vice versa.18:06
nwpscan anyone help; i just moved from gentoo to hardy alpha 3. i have a encrypted partition from gentoo that uses cryptoloop, but i can't seem to be able to mount it on kubuntu. cryptoloop and aes-generic modules are loaded, but i still get "mount: you must specify the filesystem type". any ideas?18:47
DanaGPerhaps there's a package you need to install to get crypto support.18:49
DanaG(I'm just guessing; I've never used cryptoloop.)18:49
DanaGsearch for 'crypt' in the package manager (such as aptitude).18:50
nwpsi always thought you just needed util-linux with "crypto" support (USE="crypt" on gentoo) and the kernel modules.18:50
blkorpheuswhere is the key?18:50
blkorpheusprobably still on the gentoo box?18:51
blkorpheuswhat used to be gentoo?18:51
nwpsno, i don't think cryptoloop even uses separete key files? i have done re-installs before and the encrypted partition always worked after that.18:52
DanaG!info cryptsetup18:53
ubotucryptsetup: configures encrypted block devices. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.0.5-2ubuntu8 (hardy), package size 86 kB, installed size 404 kB18:53
nwpsi have had the same kind of problem before on gentoo. then i had to re-emerge util-linux with "old-crypt" use-flag, but that was probably 2 years ago, when something big was changed in util-linux (i think).18:55
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WorkingOnWiseany ideas why the built in media reader doesnt see any cards? the reader is seen by Ubuntu. I tied 2 differant media cards (memory stick (256mb) and sd card (128mb) Both cards do read/write fine in another machine.19:57
WorkingOnWise if i boot up with the card in the reader, or if i insert it after i am logged in, still nothing19:59
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h3sp4wnAnyone know of a window manager I can get from the repos with proper xrandr 1.2 support20:31
crdlbhmm? I didn't know window managers had to care about that20:32
crdlbI know that most (if not all) video drivers can't do rotation with compiz running, but that's not compiz's fault20:34
h3sp4wnWell otherwise how do you switch the primary screen20:37
h3sp4wni.e to set which screen you want apps to open onto etc20:37
crdlboh, no idea20:38
vinicius_after I did the upgrade from Gutsy to Hardy (and a few installations and configurations), every time I login, after typing username and password on GDM, the system popups a window saying in portuguese "no language pt_BR available", or something like that... how can I know wich program is popping up this window? it does not really deny me of using everything normally, but it's annoying...21:26
nanonymevinicius_, what does locale tell you when you run it in terminal?21:30
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JavidIs there even a beta yet?21:35
UnNaturalHighJavid, www.google.com21:36
JavidI see avoiding being actually helpful is still the preferred approach.21:37
UnNaturalHighJavid, no, but catering to people who lack the intelligence to look before they ask is not what this channel is about21:37
UnNaturalHighsimple google searches such as "ubuntu hardy heron" or "ubuntu 8.04" are far from difficult to conceive and execute21:38
JavidIf you supplied a "yes" or a "no" we'd be entirely done with this conversation already21:38
JavidI can only conclude that you don't know either and are being a dick for your own amusement.21:39
crdlblet's cut that out now21:39
crdlbthere is not a beta yet21:39
crdlbthe beta comes out approximately a month before release21:39
JavidThat's what I was after, thanks21:39
seriosmeh it really sucks that mac -> linux filesystem compatabilty is about nil22:01
serios:|22:01
seriossharing 2 hfs+ journaled drives on the network via ubuntu is going to be a sucky affair22:01
vinicius_nanonyme, says I have pt_BR language22:02
BluesKajok folks what's the recomendation for the konq flash plugin , or is it still broken for kubuntu 8.04 users ?22:08
GuyFromHellanyone got a solution for dependancies ultimate-failure when trying to get kde4 installed?22:18
Adlaiaptitude just segfaulted when I marked a package 'to be upgraded'22:30
Adlaithis hopefuly isn't common22:30
Adlais/l/ll22:30
BluesKajhey what's the fix for orphaned modules? I can't understand why there would be such a problem after a clean install .22:42
MGrunde_!apparmor23:34
ubotuFor information about the AppArmor security framework employed in Ubuntu (since Gutsy Gibbon), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor23:34
MGrunde_Is there a still a problem with AppArmor in alpha three?23:34
twbAre release candidates for the live .iso's publicly accessible?  If so, from where?23:49
twbIf they will be, but aren't yet, what is the time scale for same?23:50

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