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noonanhi, anyone know why only 4 channels scan in on my new mythbuntu set up?00:40
slack_can someone help me with a font problem?01:25
slack_I try to set up mythtv and the font is so large that I can't see the whole screen01:27
TazgodXis nuvexport installed with mythbuntu 7.10?01:36
superm1no01:45
TazgodXthanks superm1 :)01:47
superm1TazgodX, i might have put it in the weekly builds repo though01:47
superm1i forget01:47
superm1i know i added it to hardy01:47
TazgodXhmmm01:47
TazgodXwell i can install manually...or try :)01:48
superm1well installign manually is more trouble than you are expecting actually01:48
superm1because you need to get the right checkout01:48
superm1that still works with -fixes01:48
TazgodXhaha01:48
TazgodXwow01:48
TazgodXi know i had a problem last time i tried01:48
superm1here its on this ppa01:48
superm1https://edge.launchpad.net/~ipod-touch/+archive01:48
TazgodXworking on getting your ipod touch to work under linux? :)01:51
superm1yes it does thanks to the stuff i've added there01:51
superm1nuvexport is there too because i was using it to export recordings for it01:51
TazgodXimport album art too?01:51
superm1yes01:51
TazgodXoh...interesting01:51
superm1only stuff that doesn't work is photos at this point (afaik)01:51
TazgodXlast i saw i couldn't get album art to sync01:51
superm1have you seen the wiki page01:52
superm1explaining it all?01:52
superm1https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone01:52
TazgodXi do love my iphone..but been stuck in windows almost continuously since getting it because of itunes and album art syncing01:53
* TazgodX starts reading the wiki01:53
TazgodXwell, i have to leave now. but my goal when i come home is to FINALLY finish setting up my cable box...through firewire, and get nuvexport running and working.(this is to remind me) :)02:02
rhpot1991hmmm, I thought I just downloaded nuvexport from sourceforge and it just worked?02:03
Mythboxhey04:12
Mythboxanyone know why my audio sounds really high pitch and tweety?04:12
Mythboxi have my audio from tuner ran to cd-in on mother board and outputted via sound card04:13
slestaki have similar problem, but i think its related to using spdif to av receiver.  someone referred me toa site to upconvert through sox from 44.1k to 48k, and my music sounds a little fast and high pitched.04:29
Mythboxslestak .. its jesse from the other night04:30
slestakive screwed sth up on the http server on my mythbox trying to get pypmyadmin installed.04:31
slestakhey man, somehow i have irssi messed up, i need to leave and come back.  brb04:31
slestakMythbox: hows your machine doing?04:32
Mythboxok04:32
Mythboxits alright... kinda04:32
Mythboxi got the sound working04:32
Mythboxonly sounds like shit lol04:32
Mythboxits real tweety dunno how to fix it04:32
slestakmine too, recording is working.  my sound is ok on recorded videos, but playing audio sounds a little fast.04:32
Mythboxmaybe the audio driver its using ?04:32
slestakim using alsa04:33
Mythboxsame04:33
Mythboxi dont know if its speed or pitch or what04:33
Mythboxseems like it keeps up w/ lips fine04:33
Mythboxjust off key04:33
slestakyou think an external dvd on a mythbox could completely replace a typical dvd player connected to the tv?  my lg dvd busted and i dont want to replace it04:34
slestakmy slimline case doesnt have a dvd, so i would have to use usb204:34
Mythboxyeah that'd do fine04:34
Mythboxthat'd work fine04:34
Mythboxmythbuntu should have full support for it04:35
slestaki got a circuit city coupon in email, so im eyeing a sony external thats supposed to write dvd ay 20x04:35
Mythboxkool04:35
slestakyou any good with apache configuration?04:35
Mythboxnever used it04:35
Mythboxwait.. what app does myth use to replay recorded video04:36
slestakwhen i go to the ip address of my mythbox, i get a directory listing showing apache2-default instead of the apache test page04:36
Mythboxmaybe that ap is just using the wrong playback functionality?04:36
slestakfor me or you?04:37
slestakyour sound prob?04:37
Mythboxyeah04:37
Mythboxwell you have the prob too dont you?04:37
slestakthat is set in Setup -> Playback04:37
slestaki setup mplayer in mine, and i did have to tweak it considerably, it had wrong -vo and -ao04:38
Mythboxlol i'm using mythdora right now.. its slightly different04:38
Mythboxhmm04:38
slestaki need to head over to regular ubuntu support to work out this apache problem.04:39
slestakgood luck with your sound issue.04:39
slestakhow does your playback sound at regular desktop, out of mythdora04:40
Mythboxseems alright.. i think i'm gonna try to use regular ubuntu and just install the myth tv packs04:40
Mythboxnot mythbuntu on ubuntu but the regular myth tv04:41
slestakit'll prob work in whatever your comfartbale in.04:42
Mythboxyeah but if its a driver issue wouldnt it stand a better chance of working properly in a mainstream distro?04:43
blkorpheusinstalling mythtv on regular ubuntu is fine04:43
Mythboxyeah but u think the audio prob is a driver prob?04:44
Mythboxor just a playback issue04:44
blkorpheusthats why there should just be ubuntu04:44
blkorpheusppl get confused with 90 names04:44
blkorpheusmythdora04:44
* blkorpheus rolls eyes04:44
blkorpheuscodecs04:44
Mythboxreally04:44
Mythbox?04:44
slestakblkorpheus: i set the autologin to use my standard login name.  is there any harm in adding the mythtv user ot the aproriate group and let the frontend use the same user as backend?04:44
blkorpheusI have no idea04:44
blkorpheusjust a guess04:44
Mythboxif i have the audio go straight out of the card its fine but its way ahead of video and i cant record it04:45
blkorpheusslestak, myth is going to do its ting04:45
blkorpheusyou just act normal04:45
blkorpheusif that makes sense?04:45
Mythboxwhen i have it run thru my audio card it comes out tweety04:45
blkorpheusslestak, i don't have a login for a mythtv user04:45
blkorpheusalthough there has to be such a user, that user does not get a shell04:45
blkorpheusit never "login"04:46
blkorpheusslestak, copy?04:46
slestaki want to ge the fromtend off of my regular login, because i vnc into this box regularly, and do not need the frontend to launch when i am remote and just want a gnome desktop04:47
slestakso i guess i need a new user that does have a shell just to run the frontend.04:47
blkorpheusthe frontend does not start unless you start it04:47
slestakmine does04:47
blkorpheusshould not04:48
slestakit is a setting in the Myth Control Center in mythbuntu04:48
blkorpheusunless you meanthe mythtvwelcome04:48
blkorpheusand that is not considered the frontend04:48
slestaklemme see where that setting is.04:48
blkorpheusit will start the frontend04:48
blkorpheusbut the mythtvwelcome will turn it self off if the frontend does not start in a few minutes04:49
blkorpheuswhen I log into my machine, the frontend does not startup04:49
blkorpheusmaybe you are chosing the mythbuntu login session04:49
Mythboxblkorpheus can you help me when you're done helping him?04:49
blkorpheusjust don't use that session04:49
blkorpheusMythbox, I will try, but atm I don't have an educated guess from what I have read from you?04:50
slestakwe just determined that user does not have a shell, and i agree with that becasue i am using gdm with facechooser, and mythtv is not listed.04:50
blkorpheusI installed some mythubuntu login or gdm, so I have a selection04:51
blkorpheusI have yet to login with it04:51
slestakahh04:51
blkorpheusbut I suspect it would start the frontend off rip04:51
Mythboxalright well I've got my audio running in from my tuner.. seems to be perfect when it comes out of the tuner then somewhere between it being recorded by my sound card and being transmitted by my sound card it gets jacked up04:51
blkorpheusbut since I use my regular login session, I never see the frontend unless I start it04:52
blkorpheusso I guess if this was a mythubuntu box first04:52
blkorpheusthen I would yes, have to create a new user04:52
blkorpheusor04:52
blkorpheustell mythubuntu-gdm to apt-get lost;)04:52
Mythboxmythbutnu does auto login of the user and has mythfrontend run at login for that user doesnt it?04:52
blkorpheusand use a the regular gdm04:52
blkorpheusbut you'd still need a non mythtv user04:53
blkorpheusMythbox, yes04:53
blkorpheusand I think I have your answer04:53
slestaki'll see you all later, i need to fix apache04:54
blkorpheusyou need to turn on audio sync, because it seems you have a how shall I say, "depreciated" tunercard?04:54
Mythboxalright how do i do that?04:55
blkorpheusmy audio comes straight from the board04:55
blkorpheusturn it on inthe frontend04:55
blkorpheusI suggest reading the mythtv wiki pages04:55
blkorpheusthats where I read about04:55
Mythboxin windows my audio was able to port via pci bus but in linux it will only do direct line04:55
blkorpheuseven if you search google for audio not in sync with video mythtv04:55
blkorpheusyou'll get gold04:55
Mythboxalright thanks man04:56
blkorpheuswhat kind of tuner card you have?04:56
Mythboxwell its not so much a sync prob04:56
blkorpheusand did you check its linux compatiblity first?04:56
Mythboxi can get my audio to sync now.. it just sounds like ass04:56
Mythboxyeah its good04:56
Mythboxits the dvico fusionHDTV 3 GOLD04:56
blkorpheuswhat kind of card?04:56
blkorpheusand sound should never "suck ass":)04:56
Mythboxits highly supported and both SD & HD work04:56
blkorpheuscool04:56
blkorpheusthe mythtv wiki is gold04:57
Mythboxi can jump from an hd channel to an sd channel w/ hardly any wait to go from one functionality to the other04:57
blkorpheusnice04:57
Mythboxjust SD audio sucks04:57
blkorpheusbut you will need to sync04:57
blkorpheusbecause of the sound coming from the card04:57
blkorpheusor you can ask in #mythtv-users04:58
Mythboxbut it is synced04:58
blkorpheusok04:58
blkorpheusits in time with video, just shitty?04:58
Mythboxyeah04:58
Mythboxtiming is great04:58
blkorpheushmm04:58
blkorpheusgood04:58
Mythboxbut quality is the shitty part lol04:58
blkorpheusdarn04:59
Mythboxmaybe something to do w/ the encoding?04:59
blkorpheusyou should join #mythtv-users04:59
blkorpheusI doubt it04:59
Mythboxgood resources in there?04:59
blkorpheusfor sure04:59
blkorpheusthats THE guys there04:59
Mythboxlol04:59
Mythboxalrigh thanks man05:00
blkorpheusthis channel, not so much05:00
blkorpheusnp05:00
Mythboxlol yeah guess mythbuntu doesnt quite have the fan base05:00
blkorpheusit does05:00
Mythboxin the end i'd like to use arch linux for my box05:00
blkorpheusbut splintering help is not efficient05:00
blkorpheusmythtv-users reccomended this channel because I slipped and mentioned ubuntu05:01
blkorpheusDON"T mention ubuntu05:01
blkorpheusjust speak of mythtv specifics05:01
blkorpheusleave the dora part off as well05:01
blkorpheuslol05:01
rhpot1991I'd say mythtv-users is better for general mythtv stuff, more people in there to see your question05:01
Mythboxok05:01
rhpot1991unless its some ubuntu specific problem, then it belongs in here05:01
blkorpheusbasically05:01
blkorpheusright05:02
Mythboxwell i've had the same prob in like 3 OSs lol05:02
blkorpheusthen it aint OS relaed05:02
rhpot1991yours the sound problem?05:02
blkorpheussp05:02
Mythboxyeah05:03
Mythboxi dunno if its driver related05:03
Mythboxi've only used mini distros geared toward mythtv05:03
rhpot1991problem only in *nix?05:03
Mythboxi almost wanna try ubuntu w/ freevo05:03
Mythboxmaybe that work05:03
Mythboxno had the prob in windows too05:03
rhpot1991general rule, get it working in the OS first05:03
rhpot1991then worry about myth05:03
Mythboxonly 1 thing would work w/ it correctly05:03
rhpot1991sounds like hardware then05:04
Mythboxno its just weird05:04
Mythboxi cant get myth to record the audio and play it back w/o it sounding distorted05:04
Mythboxif i port the audio directly to my speakers it sounds great05:05
Mythboxbut when myth records it and replays it it goes down hill05:05
rhpot1991so the sound is only bad on recordings?05:06
Mythboxits bad on play back too05:06
Mythboxmyth plays back "recorded" data05:06
rhpot1991recorded by myth?05:06
rhpot1991have you tried dvds or other sources to see if they have the same problem?05:07
Mythboxthere is a slight lag between what is actually being trasmitted that your pc recieves and what appears on your screen05:07
Mythboxhence having the ability to rewind "live" tv05:07
rhpot1991ya, live tv is actually recorded05:07
Mythboxno i havent but i'm going to try05:07
rhpot1991try that05:07
rhpot1991might be your tuner05:07
Mythboxno the audio straight from tuner sounds great05:07
rhpot1991as in live tv?05:08
rhpot1991or some other method05:08
Mythboxits gotta be w/ either the sound card which plays PCI sources fine05:08
Mythboxor its gotta be having to do w/ the recording of the sound05:08
rhpot1991you can try switching from the internal player to something like xine or mplayer if you are convinced that its a myth problem05:08
Mythboxthats what i'm gonna compare w/ the dvd give me a sec05:09
Mythboxi'm reconf my tuner card05:09
Mythboxwhat does deinterlace playback mean? lol05:11
rhpot1991basically smooths it out if you have jittery playback05:13
rhpot1991I notice ripping on things with a lot of movement, deinterlacing fixes that05:13
Mythboxohhhh05:13
Mythboxmay be able to use that on my HD05:14
Mythboxnoticed a little flaw on HD playback05:14
Mythbox"live" playback that is05:14
Mythboxdidnt try playing a recorded05:14
rhpot1991box fast enough for HD?05:14
Mythbox yeah05:14
Mythboxfusion hd 3 doesnt take much05:14
MythboxI FIGURED IT OUT!!!!!!!05:24
rhpot1991go on05:24
Mythboxit was set to compress the audio to MP305:24
Mythboxif i leave it uncompressed its fine05:24
rhpot1991ah05:24
Mythboxi dunno tho..05:24
Mythboxprolly should compress it05:24
blkorpheusI don't think min ei scompressed05:25
Mythboxok05:25
blkorpheusall depends on how much space you have05:25
rhpot1991I don't think mine is either05:26
Mythbox500g lol05:26
rhpot1991mpeg2 hardware encoder here, stream type mpeg-2 ps05:27
rhpot1991ah wait, I'm in video05:27
rhpot1991I don't see any mp3 option for my audio05:28
rhpot1991are you transcoding?05:28
Mythboxweird05:28
Mythboxi think05:28
rhpot1991I have seen it in the transcoding profiles, that you can do mp305:28
Mythboxi dunno brb05:29
rhpot1991I don't transcode anything by default05:29
blkorpheusI do05:29
blkorpheusbut may turn it off05:29
blkorpheusI guess I should only transcode the ones without autoepire set to them05:31
blkorpheussmaller file for the keepers05:31
rhpot1991depends how long you keep them and how  much space you have05:31
blkorpheustrue05:31
blkorpheusspeaking of which, its transcoding now05:31
rhpot1991I don't transcode at all, but I don't collect anything currently05:31
rhpot1991basically compressing your recordings05:31
blkorpheusdegrading qquality of recordings by remocing frames05:32
blkorpheusquality05:32
blkorpheusremoving05:32
blkorpheusthis damn keyboard05:32
rhpot1991there is a lossless mpeg2 transcode05:32
rhpot1991I have used that and it looks perfect to me05:33
rhpot1991its a checkbox under your transcode profile05:33
blkorpheusthx06:08
rhpot1991np06:11
* rhpot1991 prepares to break his router for no good reason06:11
blkorpheusha06:11
blkorpheusbored huh06:11
rhpot1991I like to mess around with things dangerously just as I should be going to sleep06:11
rhpot1991makes for an eventful night06:12
blkorpheusI upgraded to hardy like that06:16
blkorpheusgot no sleep06:16
blkorpheusbut got it workingsweet06:16
blkorpheusmythtv was a late not mission as well06:16
blkorpheusnite06:16
blkorpheusnow I'm breaking kde406:17
rhpot1991hmmm what did I just format06:17
rhpot1991thats a great question to ask yourself06:17
blkorpheusscary question06:17
rhpot1991indeed06:19
rhpot1991didn't write my partition changes thats why06:20
rhpot1991went to make a file system and it said the device didn't exist, scared me real good06:20
rhpot1992that was less painful than I thought it would be06:42
javatexanhowdy....how do you get mythtv to wake up after screensaver comes on with remote?07:53
rhpot1991reboot and disable the screen saver?07:53
rhpot1991no reason to have it on07:53
rhpot1991can prob skip the reboot thing, but you might need a mouse or keyboard to wake her up07:54
javatexanwont burn in?07:54
rhpot1991well if you think about it, do you want the screensaver kicking in when you are watching a show?07:54
javatexangood point07:54
javatexan;)07:54
javatexanwell I have pretty good script for converting .tivo to .mp407:55
rhpot1991nice07:55
rhpot1991using ffmpeg or something else?07:55
javatexani still think I want to convert from my messed up mpeg to good mpeg and then rip out commercials before going to mp4 but its okay07:56
javatexanmencoder07:56
rhpot1991get anywhere with the commercial problems?07:56
javatexani put that on backburner for now.....as it is my movies go from 5 or 6 G to 1 or 2 without removing any commericals...I cant wait to do that to though07:57
rhpot1991what was the name of that program you use to get the stuff from tivo again?07:58
rhpot1991galleon right?07:59
javatexani download the .tivo files using galleon and toGo plugin....I decode .tivo to bad .mpeg with decodeTivo, I then convert from bad mpeg to mp4 via mencoder07:59
Helvascahey08:06
MilhousePunkRockGood morning!08:07
rhpot1991thanks for the info javatexan, passed it on to my brother.  I'm off to bed have a good night.08:09
javatexanyou too....good night08:09
MilhousePunkRockWill I get the VFD on my Antec Fusion case working with the lcdproc from adept, or do I need to compile it myself as described on the mythtv wiki? Both versions are 0.5.208:10
Helvascawoo master back end problems08:12
javatexan.what types of files will mythtv commercial flag? will it flag a mp4?09:00
javatexanh26409:00
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goldfishdoes mythbuntu use LVM  ? i want to move over from mythdora13:28
goldfishand have used LVM setup on my data disks13:29
gclericUbuntu can use LVM partitions...http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-over-lvm-filesystem13:30
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javatexan I have some pretty good mp4s now thank you very much for your help...I've got one noticable problem....when the camera pans....I see noticable jumping, what would cause that?  is it the ouput framerate?20:26
javatexani have to fix it...it might cause motion sickness....LOL20:26
MythbuntuGuest01hi20:34
TazgodXwhats the command to startup mythtv backend setup in terminal?20:54
rhpot1991_laptopmythtv-setup21:03
rhpot1991_laptopthat one?21:03
TazgodXthink so...21:14
famiconIs there any way i can become something like a semi official mythbuntu pvr retailer21:15
Davieyfamicon: not at the moment :(21:22
famiconwell, i got everything ready21:22
Davieysuch as21:22
Daviey?21:22
famiconi got suppliers, hardware setups21:22
famiconcable cards etc21:22
famiconoh, i got a creditcard processor + store too21:24
famiconits all ready21:24
famiconi just have nothing to sell :(21:24
DavieyAnd yet, no freebies for the devs :(21:25
famiconwell, im paying it all out of my own pocket man21:25
famiconI can donate a portion of each sale to mythbuntu21:26
famiconi guess that with 2 or 3 customers i can bootstrap this stuff21:26
DavieyYou know there's nothing stopping you just selling mythbuntu anyway :)21:27
Davieybut we would certainly like some feedback, at the very least!21:27
famiconeh21:28
famiconhow about we work together21:28
famiconi mean21:28
famiconi use the stuff on a daily basis21:28
famiconand i can perhaps forward support tickets directly to you guys21:28
Davieyvia launchpad :)21:29
DavieySo you'd also be bug fixing?21:30
famiconyeah pretty much21:30
famiconits not the first project i've worked on21:31
Davieycool21:31
famiconsome of my stuff is allready in the ubuntu repos21:31
javatexan I have some pretty good mp4s now thank you very much for your help...I've got one noticable problem....when the camera pans....I see noticable jumping, what would cause that?  is it the ouput framerate?21:33
javatexani have to fix it...it might cause motion sickness....LOL21:33
noonanhi can anyone help me understand why my channels are ALL scrambled in mythtv?22:59
superm1famicon, talk with foxbuntu___23:30
famiconsuperm1 hmmm23:30
superm1he was going down the same route of such things23:30
famiconyay23:30
famiconpeople to work with!23:30
superm1yeah i'm sure he will be very appreciative and helpful to get off and running with it23:31
famiconyeah, that and starting stuff like that on your own just plain blows23:32
famiconnoonan23:33
famiconare you watching Digital tv23:33
noonanfamicon: I'm trying to get my first ever mythtv install to work - do you mean right now?23:34
famiconwell you complained your channels were all scrambled23:34
famiconi cant help you unless i know what kind of signal you are trying to pick up[23:35
noonanoh, cool, yeah, it might be digital, i'm not exactly sure - I have an old tv23:35
famiconok well do you use a set top box23:35
noonanit's funny, I can scan my channels only if backend setup is set to PAL23:35
noonanyeah, there is one upstairs but we watch tv without it downstairs just fine23:35
noonanit's direct from the wall to the tv - an old tv too23:36
famiconwell, just because it automagically works doesnt mean it will work elsewhere23:36
famiconwhich tuner card are you using23:36
noonanpvr 15023:37
famiconso you are using a hauptpage pvr 15023:38
noonanyeah, i've considered the possib.. yes i am23:38
famiconok23:38
famiconyou hooked that up to cable tv23:38
noonanno, I have that hooked up to the cable line, and I'm trying to watch on the monitor23:39
famiconwell, im afraid i can't really help you with that one23:40
noonanwhen i scan in set up, with NTSC i only get two, sometimes 4 channels - all badly snowy23:40
famiconI can help you with digital tv23:40
noonanfamicon: ok, thanks23:40
famiconbut I'm not familiar with US cable23:40
noonanyeah, it's weird23:40
famiconfoxxbuntu are you there?23:40
noonanyeah, i think it might be the card itself or the drivers23:40
famiconwell23:41
famiconright now I'm a bit tired23:41
famiconI'll look into it later23:42
famiconalso,o superm1 tell foxxbuntu to get in touch with me23:42
noonanyeah, thank's a lot, no problemo, thanks for the help23:42
famiconghehehe23:42
famiconive been up for 40 hours now23:42
noonani have a geforce 7800 which is supposed to handle tv too so maybe I'l trye that next - see if it's the carrd23:43
noonanoi! how come?23:43
famiconoh23:45
famiconwork work wokr wokr owkr23:45
famiconim a hacker23:45
famiconi cant stop23:45
famicontill im doen with what im doing23:45
noonanyeah, i know what you mean23:46
noonani think my girlfriend is going to kill me if I spend any more time on my new ubuntu box23:46
famiconyeah23:47
famiconspend some time with her's23:47
famiconhttp://pan.fotovista.com/dev/2/8/00005382/l_00005382.jpg23:47
famiconthat looks like a nice remote^^23:47
noonanshe's already accused me of making love to it23:47
famiconnoonan yeah23:47
famiconbtw these things are fun though23:47
famiconlike23:47
famiconOne time i saw thsi ITX board23:48
noonanyeah, see that's a good one23:48
famiconand now i got a pvr the size of a small vcr23:48
famiconbest part though23:48
famiconi dont watch tv23:48
famiconat all23:48
famiconever23:48
noonanhahahaha23:48
noonanwell i do, but I'm getting sick of being a linux noob i'll say that23:49
famiconeh23:49
famicontry crosscompiling mythbuntu for specific architectures23:49
famiconnow thats fun!23:49
noonanoh no thanks23:49
noonando you think that's what it is - a digital signal? no i doubt it though23:50
famiconwell at first i thought that you just got a DVB card without a proper CI + CAM module23:51
noonanif only, i just know it's something dead simple23:52
noonanlike don't we use NTSC in the US, how come I can only get channels with PAL setting?23:53
noonaneh, but no mor bugging you23:53
famiconyeah im sorta tired23:54
famiconim trying to find a new switch that is rackmountable for my hosting company23:54
noonango shopping23:58
famiconnah23:59
famiconthis is corporate junk23:59
famiconprofessional hardware23:59

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