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SilouckNickPresta: and apt-cache its only for installed packages, man, learn00:00
Silouckwnat a troll00:00
stdinSilouck: no it's not00:00
NickPrestaSilouck, you came to this channel asking for help. I am trying to help you and you're not listening or being co-operative. If you want my help, fine, but try to be more polite as you're the one who obviously needs help.00:01
Silouck]# LC_ALL=C apt-cache showpkg libk3b2-extracodecs_1.0.4-2ubuntu1~gutsy1_i386.deb00:03
SilouckW: Unable to locate package libk3b2-extracodecs_1.0.4-2ubuntu1~gutsy1_i386.deb00:03
Siloucklike i said, the package inst installed00:03
stdinSilouck: libk3b2-extracodecs is the package "libk3b2-extracodecs_1.0.4-2ubuntu1~gutsy1_i386.deb" is the FILE00:03
NickPrestaIf you have it in a deb archive format, you can use `dpkg --info PACKAGE.deb`. You never said the package was in a deb file. :)00:03
pfeinw00t, IRC 4 teh w1n!00:04
NickPrestaand yes, that package is available in the repos. apt-cache depends works00:04
NickPrestapfein, sorry about the delay. Yes, you can mix and match resolutions and physical monitor sizees. I use KDE with Compiz-Fusion.00:05
pfeinNickPresta: np... thx00:05
pfeinNickPresta: any preference b/w ATI vs. Intel video chipset for dual head?  Looking @ dells...00:06
biovoreintel works.. ati sometimes work.00:07
NickPrestapfein, I like to stay away from ATI. I would imagine nvidia > intel > ati, although I'm not really sure on the subject as I've only ever had nvidia :)00:07
biovoredell does do nvidia..  Its worth it in my option..00:08
biovoreif your going to be running linux on the thing..00:09
NickPrestaindeed. I've never had a problem with nvidia GPUs00:09
biovorewell nvidia's been doing linux for around 8 years now..00:09
biovoreThey got it down..00:09
pfeinhmm, ok... and basically you get a dvi2vga dongle & run both lcd's off vga?00:10
NickPrestapfein, I run both via DVI :)00:10
biovoremine nvidia card on my dell laptop here has DVI out..00:10
NickPrestapfein, but your method would work too, I believe00:10
biovoreyeah.. DVI works better.. vga (analog) can't drive 2 lcd's00:11
pfeiny'all have 2 DVI outs?00:11
pfeinor 2 cards?00:11
biovoreone dvi00:11
NickPrestapfein, my 7900 GS has two DVI outputs.00:11
* pfein is confused00:11
biovorelaptop nvidia card will only support 1 monitor external monitor00:12
pfeinbiovore: you can run 2 LCDs off one DVI out?00:12
pfeinOIC00:12
pfeinsry00:12
NickPrestapfein, I don't have a laptop. I am running a Desktop. Laptops traditionally only have one out, as biovore said00:12
pfeinyeah, I'm caught up now. ;-)00:12
bedpanI heard something about ubuntu that shocked the hell out of me00:13
bedpandoes this apply to Kubuntu also?00:13
biovoreprobably..00:13
NickPrestabedpan, tell us what you heard and we will tell you :)00:13
* pfein still needs to figure out wth to get tho..00:13
bedpanok  this is what I ran across in google00:13
bedpanMARK SHUTTLEWORTH AND CANONICAL ANNOUNCE LINUX FOR NIGGERS00:13
bedpanFOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE00:13
bedpanISLE OF MAN - June 1, 2006 - At a press conference today, Canonical CEO and Free Software spokesnigger Mark Shuttleworth announced the immediate availability of version 6.06 of the Ubuntu Linux distribution. The latest version, known by its code name, "The Diaper Drake," includes special features designed to make Linux easier and more comfortable for niggers the world over.00:13
bedpan"Niggers have always had trouble understanding new technology," Shuttleworth began. "Computers are no exception. Some people have said this is because niggers are dumb, but I believe the real problem is that technology has traditionally been designed for white people. Ubuntu changes all that. It was developed from the ground up with niggers in mind. It will usher in a whole new era of Afro-ergonomic computing."00:13
bedpanShuttleworth presented an overview of some of the features users could expect in the latest version of Ubuntu, including an Ebonics-to-English converter, African "tribal beats" sound and desktop theme, and a collection of rap music and gay pornography, "which of course will be encoded using patent and royalty-free formats," Shuttleworth added, smiling. He proceeded to elaborate, but OpenOffice.org Impress crashed at that poin00:13
AlamueWhat is a good P2P client for Kubuntu?00:14
NickPrestasigh00:14
NickPresta!frostwire | Alamue00:14
ubotuAlamue: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire00:14
crimsunc'mon, you have to chuckle at how desperate some people have gotten.00:14
AlamueThank you. Is it in the repositories?00:14
biovoreyeah.. I agree crimsun00:14
NickPrestaAlamue, nope. http://www.frostwire.com/?id=downloads00:15
AlamueOk, thank you very much.00:15
NickPrestano problem00:15
Darktan_having trouble with an external USB hard drive kit00:16
Darktan_it see it as a 59gb USB jumpdrive and says "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000"00:17
inversekinetixwow, racism in here?00:19
crimsuninversekinetix: trolling, rather.00:19
inversekinetixare there no ops?00:20
* Darktan_ is confused00:20
Darktan_did i miss something?00:20
crimsunthere are; the above instance was already addressed.00:20
LjLinversekinetix: you noticed he was banned 11 seconds after he started, didn't you?00:20
NickPrestaDarktan_, what I would suggest, is that you manually unmount the HD, and then try to remount it with default options. See if that makes a difference00:20
NickPrestaDarktan_, do you need help to do that?00:20
Darktan_one thing, it's not a normal ext HDD it uses internal IDE drives to make an ext drive00:21
Darktan_nah, i can do that00:21
Darktan_i think...00:21
NickPrestaDarktan_, okay. I don't know if it will help, but it is probably a good place to start00:21
inversekinetixi didnt no00:21
Darktan_gonna try it00:21
inversekinetixbeing as i get no help in ubuntu otherr than to consider using windows, maybe someone here could help,00:22
inversekinetix1.  why would ubuntu suddenly stop showing an NTFS drive00:22
Darktan_lost mounting00:23
Darktan_had all kinds of problem with that when i first started with linuk00:24
NickPrestainversekinetix, what do you mean "suddenly"? It stop showing the mounted drive after you used it? It stop showing the drive after a restart?00:24
inversekinetixNickPresta: yes00:24
NickPrestainversekinetix, which one?00:24
inversekinetixthere are 4 drives00:24
Darktan_woot, thx nickpresta, got it working00:25
NickPrestaDarktan_, did remounting with default options work?00:25
inversekinetixmy mistake, if fails to show one of the NTFS partition on one of the drives, it detects the rest fine, but the one with windows on doesnt show00:25
Darktan_iat first it would let me do anything, i gave it a new mount point then it wouldn't enable, i cursed at it, went to system media and it works now00:26
NickPrestainversekinetix, hmm. I don't know what would cause that. What does your fstab look like? (you can !pastebin it)00:26
NickPrestaDarktan_, congrats.00:26
Darktan_thx00:26
inversekinetixwhats the command for it00:26
Darktan_i had the same problem, had to allow all users to mount and enable mount on start up from the "file and disk" setting under system settings00:27
NickPrestainversekinetix, `EDITOR /etc/fstab` where EDITOR is pico, nano, kate, what ever the editor is default in Ubuntu00:27
inversekinetixNickPresta: thanks, i think Im just going to have to use windows for the time being, I dont have time to try and get this working right, there are too many things wrong.  sorry to waste you time and thanks.00:29
NickPrestainversekinetix, it's okay. good luck.00:29
Darktan_why does dolphin want to chage permissions every time i copy a music file?00:30
siloucki have runned adpet to install libk3b2-extracodecs but this package doesnt appear00:30
Darktan_and why does it tell be a hundred freaking times it failed on every file?00:30
NickPrestaDarktan_, would that be the window that pops up about a permission error in a bookmarks.xml file?00:31
NickPrestasilouck, what did you do to install that package?00:31
silouckdid i said i run adept_00:32
Darktan_no, every mp3, wav, wma, m4a, mp4, and ogg file00:32
silouckseams i need to add another repo00:32
Darktan_well, i'll worry about it later, right now dinner calls, thanks again for the help00:33
Odd-rationaleHow do I enable "roaming" in the knetworkmanager?00:33
siloucki did activated the repo for restricted software but it continues to not appear libk3b2-extracodecs!00:33
silouckin what repo the libk3b2-extracodecs exists_00:34
DagonI have an external hard drive mounted  in a USB case. It mounts ok, but when I try to access the drive I get an error message hal refused  uid storage. How do I read the the drive00:34
ForzaPalermohey guys i downloaded kde 4.0, but now i want to use it as my primary gui, how can i uninstall kde 3.5 completely, and have kde start up as my primary session?00:34
NickPrestasilouck, http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy-backports/libs/libk3b2-extracodecs go down to the bottom and download the DEB file for your architecture. Then, in a terminal, type: sudo dpkg -i FILE00:34
NickPrestasilouck, if that doesn't work, !pastebin the output.00:35
Odd-rationaleForzaPalermo: Can you select kde 4.0 as your default session?00:35
ForzaPalermoOdd-rationale, no, the only way i can select it is from the sign on screen00:35
vzduchNickPresta: if it's in the backports, why not add the repo and apt-get install?00:35
NickPrestaForzaPalermo, ask in #kubuntu-kde4. They should be able to tell you how to get a fully KDE 4.0 system00:35
NickPrestavzduch, you can, if you want (I do) but for a single package, it is suggested you download the deb. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#head-7da053a820e7f163090900a26ed8cbf839c2b18500:36
ForzaPalermoim asking everywhere00:36
ForzaPalermono one has given me an answer yet :(00:36
NickPrestaForzaPalermo, well, be patient. I'm sure you will get an answer soon.00:37
DatalancheIs there an Applet I can get somewhere to have a custom list of programs in a spanning tree fashion? The Quick Launcher is taking up a bit too much room.00:39
Odd-rationaleIs there a way to show a list of available wireless network connections in knetworkmanager applet?00:39
jac0bwhen you build amarok from source for mp4 tag purposes do what do I have to put on the ./configure line00:41
NickPrestaDatalanche, have you ever heard of Katapult?00:41
NickPrestajac0b, try a ./configure --help and see what it mentions about mp400:41
NickPrestajac0b, or ask in #amarok00:41
jac0bok thnaks00:41
jac0bor that is even better00:41
DatalancheNickPresta: umm.. the name rings a bell but I don't think I've used it00:42
NickPrestaDatalanche, check it out. It takes up no (physical) space. http://katapult.kde.org/ It is different, but you might like it.00:43
DatalancheI'll check it out. Thanks :)00:43
Odd-rationaleHow can I scan for a list of available wireless networks? Thanks!00:45
matt___i installed "kdebase" within ubuntu, and now i'm using it. however, i could be wrong, but it seems as if external drives aren't being deteted/mounted. not 100% sure, but just wondering if there is something/way to install/check00:46
DatalancheCool... Katapult is just what I needed! :)00:46
matt___Datalanche: katapult is the coolest thing ever, check out yakuake as well00:47
NickPrestaOdd-rationale, I don't know much about wireless and Kubuntu anymore. Check out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo#head-5f526a24e75c1923c77ce8f801da484716ea1b4e and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs00:47
ForzaPalermowhat package do i download in the kubuntu repositories to get everything i would need for kde 400:48
corinthmatt___: What is katapult?00:48
silouckNickPresta: i have installed that packaged and it continues not being possible to add some mp3 files to audio cds, see the error>00:48
silouckUnable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format:00:48
silouckYou may manually convert these audio files to wave using another application supporting the audio format and then add the wave files to the K3b project.00:48
Datalanche!info katapult00:48
ubotukatapult: item launcher for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.2.1-2 (gutsy), package size 419 kB, installed size 3152 kB00:48
NickPrestaForzaPalermo, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php and ask in #kubuntu-kde400:48
matt___corinth: it is a program starter, install it, run it, then hit alt+spacebar to find out. it's amazing00:48
matt___corinth: it is much like quicksilver for macs00:48
silouckso its all a lie about what i heard about kubutun fixing this prob that also exists in other distros00:49
Odd-rationaleNickPresta: I'll look into that. thanks!00:49
DatalancheAwesome... plenty of space in my panel now :)00:50
NickPrestasilouck, try this: apt-get install libmad000:51
NickPrestasilouck, sudo apt-get install libmad000:51
silouckNickPresta: if course that libmad is installed, cause its a required library00:51
silouckof course00:51
silouckYou may manually convert these audio files to wave using another application supporting the audio format and then add the wave files to the K3b project.00:52
silouck/mnt/ext3/Downloads/Musica/06 Metallica -- S & M/CD-1/06 METALLICA-fuel.MP300:52
NickPrestasilouck, I realize that the extracodecs package you're trying to install replaces libk3b2-mp3 but according to the Google'ing I've done, you should have libk3b2-mp3 installed and then when you start up K3b, click on "New Audio CD Project" drag your files, and click on Burn and it should work.00:53
silouckall those are installed00:54
siloucki really thought that would be very strnage for kubuntu fix this when mandriva that is a super distro wouldnt00:54
biovoresilouck: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras00:57
NickPrestasilouck, so let me understand you. You selected, "New Audio CD Project", and dragged your MP3 files to the project area. You then clicked on "burn" and it didn't work?00:57
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silouckNickPresta: when draggin this mp3 files outputs that message, but only for these mp3, it all goes fine with other mp3 files01:03
silouckbut all this hapens also in super distro mandriva01:04
silouckwell my doubts were clarified01:04
NickPrestasilouck, so it only happens with those specific MP3s?01:04
LowlyNewbieHello, can someone help me setup my wifi?  I just installed Kubuntu for my first time01:04
NickPresta!wifi | LowlyNewbie01:04
ubotuLowlyNewbie: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:04
trophyheadin kubuntu's kmix the sound is set to default & 44100hz, but I believe my sound cards 32 bit, & kmix option is either (16bit) very high or (8bitlow) & default, what would any suggest I set it to, so I get the best sound quailty?01:07
Kouenhi everyone01:07
NickPrestaLowlyNewbie, congrats. on installing Kubuntu for your first time. I hope you enjoy your Kubuntu experience. Your first step is finding out if your card is supported. If it is supported, you need to figure out if you need to use ndiswrapper or if it is supported natively. From there, there are specific instructions to setup your card.01:07
NickPrestahi Kouen01:07
Kouenhey i never been on ubuntu channel but when i tried to enter the channel it' says unable to enter address is banned....01:08
NickPrestaKouen, when you try to /join #ubuntu?01:08
Kouenyes01:09
NickPresta!banned | Kouen01:09
ubotuKouen: If you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable behaviour. If you're not sure what acceptable behaviour is please see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/01:09
LjLKouen: ask in #ubuntu-ops01:09
Koueni never been at ubuntu channel in my life....01:09
NickPrestaKouen, join #ubuntu-ops and explain your situation to them01:09
Kouenjust now that i want to enter...01:09
NickPrestaLjL beat me to it :)01:09
Kouenthanks01:10
trophyheadany idea's plz with my kmix question?01:11
biovorewhat sound card?01:11
NickPrestatrophyhead, I can only imagine that putting all your settings to the highest value would deliver the best quality.01:11
trophyheadk but would default be higher than the 16 bit (veryhigh) setting?01:12
biovoretrophyhead: creative sounds card?01:13
LowlyNewbieYAY IT WORKED Thank you documentation01:13
trophyheadnaw a chepie c-media01:13
biovorethat card probably only has 16bit DAC on it..01:13
NickPrestaLowlyNewbie, congrats. *buntu has a lot of helpful documentation. I'm sure it won't be the last time it helps you.01:13
andrew__anyone on this channel know anything about ubuntu?01:14
trophyheadtho it is supposed 32bit , ill have to make sure, probably only 1601:14
Odd-rationaleOK. I'm connected to the internet, but konqueror won't connect to any website. Any ideas?01:14
LowlyNewbienow if someone could tell me why OR point me where I can find out why my computer does not startup normally (I have to go to recovery mode then do startx) then Kubuntu starts up01:15
NickPrestaandrew__, join #ubuntu01:15
trophyheadthx anyhoo bio\01:15
biovoretrophyhead: probably the same thing as audigy pulls.. they say 24bit.. but its only has a 16bit dac on the card..01:15
andrew__thanks01:15
NickPrestaLowlyNewbie, that is strange indeed. Do you get any output or error messages when starting Kubuntu normally?01:15
trophyheadoh  ok its a cheap 15$ card so ya probably 16 bit01:15
tininHey, how do I acces to krunner in kde4?01:16
LowlyNewbieNo I don't NickPresta.  The screen just goes blank?01:16
NickPresta!kde4 | tinin01:16
ubotutinin: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde401:16
tininthanx01:16
NickPrestaLowlyNewbie, I don't know what is different about the recovery mode versus the "normal" mode so I'm not sure where to start in identifying the problem. If you ask again a little later, someone may be available who can help.01:17
LowlyNewbieThanks NickPresta I appreciate it01:18
NexaMacstupid shift-backspace :<01:23
spinikeranybody knows how to enable skydome?01:34
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jckffyihow do you delete a directory from a terminal, i keep getting cannot rm ... it is a directory01:34
kadamjckffyi: rmdir01:35
NickPrestajckffyi, rm -r. in the future, do `man rm` for information01:35
NickPrestaor rmdir too01:35
NickPrestarmdir will remove empty directories01:35
jckffyiThanks!01:35
NexaMachmm01:38
NexaMacterminal cheat sheet in teh topic would be <301:38
pkhhi, I have a simple question -- how do I reset the dialog that pops up asking what to do with a usb device (ipod in this case) -- I pressed 'ignore' and then 'remember' and now I want to reset this to at least ask...01:38
trophyheadok I'm getting 2 things for my sound card so how many bits is it plz?  first it says supporting 24bit SPDIF in/out, then below it says 32bit pci bus master, so what is it? 24 bit, 32 bit? it is suppose to be able to put out 4 or 6 channel's, : )01:39
NickPrestaNexaMac, http://linuxcommand.org/01:40
NexaMacNickPresta: i didnt need one, but theres a lot of questions :)01:40
crimsuntrophyhead: the 32-bit portion is completely irrelevant01:41
crimsuntrophyhead: it's a 32-bit bus that connects your audio card01:41
crimsuntrophyhead: the 24-bit SPDIF is per-specification and is completely independent of that bus01:42
NickPrestapkh, go into System Settings > Notifications > Storage Media Notifications > the Medium Type, click on Do Nothing and then press Toggle as Auto action to remove it. That might work.01:42
crimsuntrophyhead: also, whether your audio device has SPDIF or not has absolutely no bearing on the number of channels it can output01:42
trophyheadoh ok the pin connection eh, (32bit) just trying to get the most outta it hehe01:43
NexaMac:<01:45
NexaMacstorage media in dolphin, gets stuck on loading :/01:45
pierrethhello, I just an install of Kubuntu but I have no sound...01:45
NexaMacpierreth: what kind of soundcard?01:46
pierrethNexaMac: I don't know...01:46
NexaMacpierreth: open a terminal and type lspci01:46
pkhNickPresta, perfect, thanks.01:46
trophyheadso I guess most cheapie soundcards like mine are 16bit?, but what do look for to find out?, im on a web page for it now : )01:47
pierrethNexaMac: Audio device: nVidia Corporation Unknown device01:47
NexaMacpierreth: laptop?01:47
pierrethNo, a Tower01:47
NexaMaccustom built?01:47
pierrethNexaMac: yes01:47
crimsunpierreth: please pastebin `lspci -nv`01:48
NexaMac:<01:48
pierrethcrimsun: where?01:48
crimsunpierreth: using any pastebin.01:48
NexaMactype lspci -nv in a terminal01:48
NexaMacthen paste it at www.pastebin.com01:48
pierrethok01:48
NexaMacstupid grub :<01:49
pierrethhttp://pastebin.com/d1fb40ed01:49
NexaMacerror 17 ftl01:49
pierrethI have a EVGA e-7100/630i mother board with integrated audio and graphics01:50
NexaMaca tad more helpfull tbh01:51
mefisto__could someone try opening a web image in gimp (from File > Open Location...) It doesn't seem to work any more01:51
crimsunpierreth: that's not `lspci -nv`01:51
arrrghhhso kde4 is very pretty... but it seems they took a lot of the configuration options out01:51
pierrethoups....01:51
arrrghhhlike when i right click on stuff on the bar at the bottom, they took like all the options out01:51
pierrethsorry, try again...01:51
mefisto__arrrghhh: I think it's just not finished yet01:52
arrrghhhis this something that's going to be permanent?01:52
arrrghhhhrm01:52
arrrghhhi figured if they released it, it was final01:52
hydrogenerr01:52
hydrogenby that logic01:52
arrrghhhi do like the look of it, just seems like all the customization has gone01:52
hydrogenkubuntu should never release hardy01:52
hydrogenbecause gutsy is *final*01:52
pierrethhttp://pastebin.com/d2211ff9e01:52
arrrghhhhydrogen: uhm... you're missing the point01:52
hydrogennope, I think you are01:52
arrrghhhlol01:53
NexaMacssshhh both of you :<01:53
NexaMac!ot | hydrogen01:53
ubotuhydrogen: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!01:53
arrrghhhi mean final like it's ready for public01:53
NexaMac:p01:53
hydrogenA release is a snapshot of development that is considdered worthy of others to view01:53
arrrghhhkde4 still isn't RC is it?01:53
arrrghhhit was my understanding it went final jan 1101:53
hydrogenit did01:53
NickPrestaarrrghhh, http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/317401:54
hydrogenThe concepts of a standard release were a bit abused for kde4.001:54
mefisto__could someone try opening http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/LPG/51628~Face-Posters.jpg in gimp with Open Location (in the file menu). Mine's not working01:54
hydrogento stop people from nitpicking at the internals and focus on the applications and other parts01:54
arrrghhhyea seemed like they rushed kde401:54
hydrogenbut Its by no means final01:54
hydrogennot rushed, this needed to happen so that attention could be focused on other parts of kde01:54
arrrghhhi see01:55
arrrghhhyea in reading that article i completely agree01:55
arrrghhhit should not have been considered a release, because that'll make people think that's it's ready01:55
navetzcan somebody please help me set up kmail to work with hotmail.01:56
hydrogenIt is ready01:56
hydrogenfor early adopters01:56
NickPrestamefisto__, install gimp-libcurl and it will work :)01:56
arrrghhhi see01:56
hydrogenpersonally I've been using it as my primary desktop for about two months now01:56
mefisto__thanks NickPresta01:56
hydrogenand yes, theres still some big things missing01:56
hydrogenbut I'm willing to give those up :)01:56
arrrghhhsee i thought those big things would be wrapped up01:56
arrrghhhand it would just be little things01:56
arrrghhhor bug fixes01:56
arrrghhhnot like interface options lol01:56
killermachok.. I"m ready to get rid of dolphin.. too limited to be an everyday useful file manager01:57
arrrghhhi remember reading about phonon and plasma etc not really being 'ready'01:57
killermachhow do I configure the "system menu" panel applet?01:57
NickPrestanavetz, I believe Hotmail stopped allowing remote POP3 access unless you paid.01:57
navetz_NickPresta: but there are other ways to do it01:58
navetz_NickPresta: its just none of them are working for me01:58
fyrmedicanyone have a link to a page with instructions to get my wireless drivers back to their original state? I screwed them all up with ndiswrapper and fwcutter and a bunch of other crap.01:58
arrrghhhthere's no POP3 server for free hotmail01:58
navetz_NickPresta: especially since hotmail is gay as hell and wont allow message forwarding to gmail01:58
NickPrestanavetz_, what other ways are there to do it? Hotmail doesn't provide pop3/smtp settings?01:58
pierrethmefisto__: what is the problem with this image?01:59
navetz_NickPresta: you can use gotmail01:59
arrrghhhhow i got hotmail to work in thunderbird was an extension01:59
navetz_NickPresta: but i havn't got it to work, although many other have01:59
NickPrestanavetz_, well, yes, but that isn't a #kubuntu support topic :)01:59
arrrghhhi had to install an extension and it created a pop server on my machine just for it i think01:59
navetz_arrrghhh: i wanted to forward my messages to my gmail account and just read them there01:59
arrrghhhok01:59
navetz_arrrghhh: but hotmail banned forwarding to gmail01:59
arrrghhhso forward your mail01:59
arrrghhhreally?02:00
arrrghhhthat's strange02:00
navetz_yea02:00
NickPrestait seems like a lot of work to use hotmail in the client of your choice. It would probably be less of a hassle to switch to gmail and update your contacts :)02:00
arrrghhhmicroshaft02:00
navetz_nah, thats a lot like them02:00
arrrghhhditch your hotmail acct then02:00
navetz_I have been using it for 6 years02:00
arrrghhhso02:00
arrrghhhi've had mine for 1002:00
namespaceI got a problem with my mounted shares: uhm i have samba troubles: when i mount my share, it gets autom. assigned to owner messagebus and GID 1000. I added a group samba and set its GID to 1000 and added my user to this group but when i create a folder I still can't change the permissions, why not? it gets automatically assigned drwxr-xr-x :( why:o02:00
arrrghhhdoesn't mean i like it02:00
NickPrestaThat is the risk you run when you use a free email service. They can change it and you can't do anything :)02:00
arrrghhhindeed02:01
navetz_I dont like it either :(02:01
pierrethcrimsun: have you seen my pastbin?02:01
namespacei got create mask = 0777    directory mask = 0777    force create mode = 0777 in my smb.conf but directories don't get 777 assigned on creation, why not?02:01
sandrozhi02:01
NickPrestahi, sandroz02:01
pierrethhello02:01
sandrozi am from Brazil02:01
navetz_i was thinking of forwarding the mail to my website email address, then having that address forward me the mail to my gmail account02:01
namespacehi sandroz02:01
arrrghhhsandroz: what's your question02:01
namespaceanyone able to help with my samba problems?02:01
pierrethi am from america02:01
NickPresta!br | sandroz if you need it:02:01
ubotusandroz if you need it:: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.02:01
namespacei'm from Canada ;)02:02
navetz_Canada :)02:02
pierrethi am from canada of america02:02
namespacehaha hi Canada users :)02:02
navetz_hallo02:03
namespaceanyone able to help with my samba issue?02:03
mefisto__namespace: it's important to keep the hip movement relaxed and fluid02:03
sandrozmy question: kubuntu uses 3D desktop ?02:03
NickPresta!compiz | sandroz02:03
ubotusandroz: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion02:03
navetz_everyone loves compiz :)02:03
arrrghhhnamespace: isn't there a room for samba?  doesn't sound like a kubuntu issue to me02:03
navetz_except everyone who doesn't02:03
carlossandroz> sim usa compiz02:03
sandrozcool02:04
namespacearrgh: there is but no one is replying so i thought i could ask here02:04
arrrghhhnamespace: i see, i'd google around... i am no good with samba and it sounds like no one else here is confident enough to help you with it either02:04
namespacearrghh: i already have... oh well.... i'll try again .... thanks anyways02:05
namespacei'll cya guys, cheers and go EH! ;)02:06
kadamAs soon as I start amarok and try to play something, it says 'device already in use, xine parameters:' .  Does anyone know what to do about this?  Also, I used to use KMIX, but now Kmix is empty when it opens...02:06
killermachwhen I click the "computer icon" next to the K-Gear menu on the main panel, I get dolphin, I want to get konqueror as was in previous versions02:08
NickPrestad3lphin | killermach02:08
kadam!xine02:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:09
mefisto__kadam: does amarok always have that error? what if you try it before using other audio progs?02:09
NickPresta!d3lphin | killermach02:09
ubotukillermach: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.02:09
kadamIs it possible to tell what's using my audio device?02:09
killermachNickPresta: the title bar says D"O"lphin  not "D"3"lphin02:10
NickPrestakillermach, it's the same thing. It's called D3lphin in KDE 3.5.8 and Dolphin in KDE 4.002:10
NickPrestaD3lphin is Dolphin ported to KDE 3.5.8, I believe02:11
NickPrestaAnyways, I'll be back later guys (and gals).02:12
mefisto__I see 3 dolphins: d3lphin dolphin and dolphin-kde402:13
kadamAlright, I've discovered that only root can play audio/use the audio device.  Is there a way to fix this so regular users can?02:13
NexaMac:x02:13
NexaMaci found the cause of error 17 it seems.. theres no grub in /boot o_O02:13
NexaMacany helpfull tips here?02:13
mefisto__install grub?02:14
NexaMac>_>02:14
NexaMacno idea how to do it from the livecd without installing the entire OS tbh02:14
mefisto__look at grub-install --help02:14
NexaMack02:14
kadamIt seems only root can use the audio device... How can I make it so regular users can, too?02:14
kadamoh sorry02:15
NexaMacmefisto__: so, apt-get install grub --root-directory=/dev/hdd1/boot ?02:19
NexaMac:<02:21
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acme___hey hey02:28
acme___I broke my x server, some help plz :(02:28
acme___was trying to install the nvidia drivers, and i think it downloaded and installed but when i restarted x server i get an error02:29
Tm_T!nvidia | acme___02:29
ubotuacme___: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:29
acme___uh, how do i open that link, im stuck in terminal?02:30
acme___i saw the nividia package made a backup of my conf, how do i restore that?02:30
acme___tried to cd to the directory, but...thats not workin02:30
corinthacme___:  what's the name of the backup?02:31
acme___uh, xconf somethin somethin02:31
acme___the date most likely02:31
acme___you know i think the server is tryin to output video to the vga port? instead of dvi which is what i have02:38
acme___or maybe im wrong?02:38
acme___how can i change it02:38
acme___sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf02:39
acme___woops02:39
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acme___plz some help02:42
corinthacme___: cd /etc/X11/02:44
corinthacme___: sudo cd <name of backup file> xorg.conf02:44
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tininacme___ next time try to use the envy script from alberto milone to install the drivers, it is much more easy02:45
ForgeAuserm thats weird someone went and registered the nickname _ubuntu?02:45
se7en_j #kubuntu-kde02:45
ForgeAusisn't that a default the kubuntu livecd uses?02:45
hydrogenthat'd be why someone did it probably :)02:46
ForgeAusanyhow, I need some help my kubuntu isn't booting... it can mount the filesystem but doesn't do much at all after that02:46
acme___not working :(02:48
thomas_newbie__my ssh and apache server starts each time i boot up my os. How to disable that02:48
acme___i opened the conf in a text editor, its empty02:48
acme___is that normal?02:48
jordsthomas_newbie: In system settings, if you go to the advanced tab and click on system services you should be able to configure them to not start as booy02:50
mefisto__booy?02:51
jordsboot :D02:53
mefisto__lol, I was googling booy to find out what it means02:53
mefisto__acme___: xorg.conf is empty?02:56
ForgeAusargh I think I know why I have a problem02:59
ForgeAusmy /etc has become a file somehow instead of a directory :(03:00
ForgeAuscan I fix it somehow?03:00
acme___mefisto__  apparently03:01
acme___unless i didnt open it properly03:01
corporeallo03:02
mefisto__acme___: type this: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:03
mefisto__it should print the file to the screen03:03
spideymanhas anyone found a fix for the search field text problem in frostwire03:04
acme___o snap03:05
acme___i fixed it03:05
acme___somehow...03:05
acme___switchin to konversation brb03:06
mefisto__acme___: what did you do?03:06
CreationistSomeone please help!  For some reason, out of the blue, any time I try to play a video on my computer, whether embedded online or from my camcorder, the video is completely scrambled, but the audio is fine.  What happened and how do I fix this?  Same results with Totem, Mplayer, Kaffeine, and VLC03:09
mixedanyone know how to manually update Punk Buster for Quake III?03:10
mefisto__Creationist: all video files?03:11
BlahingHereAndThhow can i auto unlock my keyring in kubuntu 7.04?03:14
thomas_newbie__I found a package on the ubuntu site but I can't find the same in adept manager :( ?03:15
BlahingHereAndThthomas_newbie__, what package?03:15
thomas_newbie__BlahingHereAndTh: User-Mode Linux Kernel03:15
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BlahingHereAndThi don't see it in apt :(03:17
BlahingHereAndThi found the doc (lol)03:17
thomas_newbie__BlahingHereAndTh: yea i nkow03:19
thomas_newbie__BlahingHereAndTh: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/misc/user-mode-linux03:19
BlahingHereAndThi am not on gutsy... it hates my laptop, so i am still on the 7.04 repo...03:20
spideymanwhat should the install path be for flash in gutsy03:20
spideymannevermind i figured it out it goes to the browser folder in /usr/lib03:23
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BlahingHereAndThi wish pidgin would compile faster ^_^03:26
surgyok i just got my first printer sense i made the switch to linux, its an hp deskjet 3915, i plugged it in now whats the next step to making it usable?03:27
surgynvm i figured it out03:29
surgythnx though03:29
chusohi all :) first of all sorry for my english03:32
chusois there any workaround to make kopete works fine under gutsy/kde4.0?03:32
thomas_newbie__Would I increase security of my Webserver if I changed from port 80?03:34
biovorenot really03:34
biovoreyou make the webserver more secure by restricting what it can do..03:34
DragnslcrIt would stop some cursory attacks03:34
thomas_newbie__biovore: why not?  most people expect webservers to be port 8003:34
DragnslcrIt wouldn't stop a determined attack though03:35
biovorenmap will show people what ports are open..03:35
biovoreussualy you get port scanned first..03:35
thomas_newbie__true03:35
thomas_newbie__right03:35
DragnslcrAnd it would annoy people trying to get to your site03:35
DragnslcrSince they'd have to put in the port number manually03:35
thomas_newbie__so you guys say I should leave it? Why does my stupid professor tell me to change it :S03:35
biovoreApache it's self is fairly solid.. the addon such as php and perl are what cause problems..03:36
DragnslcrKey word there would be "stupid"03:36
Alamueheh, I wonder how many times you people have heard this issue. I have no audio, audio worked under the Kubuntu Live CD. Syste: Dell XPS M1330, Windows driver is AC`97 Audio. What can I try to enable audio? I have checked all volume levels yet no audio.03:36
DragnslcrAlamue- might try checking the volume levels in alsamixer as well as kmix03:37
thomas_newbie__Dragnslcr: theoretically you would think that it would add SOME degree of security since its expected to be 80 usually03:37
DragnslcrI've seen one or two channels that are in alsamixer but not in kmix03:37
AlamueWhere is alsamixer located?03:37
Dragnslcrthomas_newbie__- it would stop a fair number of trivial script kiddies, but that would be it03:38
thomas_newbie__biovore: see I was thinking of adding php or perl to my server. Bad idea?03:38
Dragnslcr!info alsamixergui03:38
ubotualsamixergui: graphical soundcard mixer for ALSA soundcard driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.0rc2-1-9 (gutsy), package size 29 kB, installed size 148 kB03:38
AlamueThank you. Headphones work, I am just trying to get the built in speakers working now.03:38
DragnslcrAlamue- that might be a bit easier to work with than alsamixer03:38
DragnslcrI know I had to use alsamixer to get the digital outputs working on my sound system, so I always recommend checking it just to be sure03:39
AlamueThank you. I need to install all of the gnome packages to install alsamixer.03:39
DragnslcrYou can use alsamixer from the shell instead if you don't want to install the Gnome libraries03:40
AlamueI have also been getting another issue. When attempting to install certain programs/files from the repositories I get "Could not install file commit to big or could break packages"03:40
Alamue"There was an error commiting changes. Possibly a problem downloading packages, or else the commit would break packages"03:42
DragnslcrYou can try checking /var/log/dpkg.log maybe03:42
AlamueIt does install it though, except j2re.03:42
AlamueAlsamixer fixed it, I also had to change what the master volume is.03:43
BlahingHereAndThhow do i auto unlock my keyring in 7.04?03:44
DragnslcrIf a package's install gets messed up, apt tries to finish the install every time you use it03:44
DragnslcrI think it's every time, anyway03:44
BlahingHereAndThyeah...03:44
BlahingHereAndThyou have to use -f...03:44
AlamueDragnslcr: Thanks, this latest switch to Kubuntu has been rough, this laptop dislikes Linux.03:44
DragnslcrYeah, laptops can be tough sometimes. A lot of the hardware is made companies coughbroadcomcough that don't support Linux03:45
lasca1hello everyone03:45
AlamueI stopped VLC player but the song is still playing.......03:46
posingaspopularAlamue: killall vlc03:47
Alamuevlc: no process killed03:48
grultry ps aux | grep vlc03:50
grulto find the process03:50
Alamuewxvlc was still running. I manually killed the process and that worked.03:52
|Toadanyone here?03:55
NickPrestawe're here, |Toad03:55
|Toadi just installed kde4 on gutsy gibbon and i was changing display settings and it froze03:56
|Toadnow kde4 won't load03:56
darin_i donno what i did but i can't use any sudo commands on my ubuntu 7.10 server and i dont have any other suers added that have sudo permissions. it says that my uder is not in the sudoers file. any suggestions?03:57
darin_ok i will take it that no one is here that can help me04:00
dettoaltrimentiwhat do you need darin04:01
darin_ok i will take it that no one is here that can help me04:01
darin_i donno what i did but i can't use any sudo commands on my ubuntu 7.10 server and i dont have any other suers added that have sudo permissions. it says that my uder is not in the sudoers file. any suggestions?04:01
dettoaltrimentihmm. try a sudo command and tell me what it says04:02
NickPresta|Toad, I saw that you asked in #kubuntu-kde4. I would wait for a response there04:03
darin_when i do a sudo command it says darin is not in the sudoers file and this event will be reported04:05
darin_but it sends the report to my mail account04:05
darin_i read that i should enable the root account but from the cli on the server it says i dont have permissions to do so04:06
jordsMy /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc is scrwed up.... can someone give me a unedited copy of this file? reinstalling kdm is'nt returning it to the defaukt04:06
jords*default04:07
NickPrestajords, use the --purge option when removing04:07
NickPrestathat should remove the configuration files04:07
|Toadnope, didn't work04:07
|Toadit just left me at a blank black screen this time04:07
|Toadhad to do a hard power down04:08
|Toadthere isn04:08
|Toadisn't a config file i can edit?04:08
MuNzEsome1 know why my gdm crash after install kde4  from gnome....install yesterday everything was ok?04:10
jordsNickPresta: that wants to remove kubuntu-desktop as well. I moved  the kdmrc and reinstalled kdmrc with aptitude, but it has'nt recreated the file04:11
jordseven though apt-file says the kdmrc belongs to the kde package04:12
lasca1i've been trying to patch, compile and the latest version of mad-wifi, and i'm getting errors all over the place and am pretty frustrated.  Is there a separate channel for mad-wifi, or does someone here know something that I don't?04:12
maduserkde4, to buggy for kubuntu?04:13
maduserAll i have has been issue after issue04:14
Tm_Tmeh, all is fine here (though I don't use packages)04:14
maduserwhat did you use?04:15
MuNzEwindoz04:15
MuNzElol04:15
Tm_Tmaduser: I compile KDE4 several times a day04:15
Tm_TMuNzE: not funny04:15
maduserwha?04:15
maduserwhy constantly compile it?04:15
MuNzEnot funny i can login after isntall kde ??04:15
MuNzEthis is ok ?04:15
MuNzEcan not sorry04:16
BlahingHereAndThhow come i have no sound on youtube?04:16
Tm_TMuNzE: hmmm, interesting, have you tried KDM ?04:16
lasca1i've been trying to patch, compile and the latest version of mad-wifi, and i'm getting errors all over the place and am pretty frustrated.  Is there a separate channel for mad-wifi, or does someone here know something that I don't?04:16
MuNzEyes04:16
MuNzEand kdm crash to04:16
MuNzEyesterday everything was ok04:16
Tm_Tmaduser: and why not?04:16
maduserBlahingHereAndTh is the sound bar all the way down, I have that problem04:16
Tm_TMuNzE: hmm, any errors?04:17
BlahingHereAndThnope....04:17
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jessicahello, i can't play mp3 anymore in amarok. i've installed libxine1-ffmpeg but it still gives me that error. how can i fix it?04:21
jessie_hey buys04:23
jessie_*guys04:23
Tm_Tjessica: "that error" is what?04:23
jessicaTm_T: some media could not be loaded (not playable)04:24
jessicaTm_T: when I try to add mp3s to the playlist. other filetypes are fine04:24
artur_does anyone here plays supertux?04:26
artur_or has already played04:26
kyemy taskbar just stopped showing and i can not get it to come back?04:28
marx2kyknow, Ive really got to say... I do like KDE 3.5 more than 4 so far04:30
kyemarx2k: would you happend to know how to get the taskbar to show? it just stopped showing and i dont know how to get it back04:31
marx2kkye: I would just delete ~/.kde4 and start fresh04:34
|Toadokay, i got kde4 working again04:34
marx2kKDE4 so far is too buggy for me to use. Im sticking with 3.5 for now04:34
|Toadanyone know how i can make the taskbar smaller?04:35
marx2kthe taskbar seems to have no settings options04:35
|Toadexactly04:35
|Toadwhy is it so big?04:35
marx2kno idea04:35
kyeMy taskbar isnt showing anymore how can i fix this?04:37
madusertype kicker into the terminal04:39
maduseryou kicker from kde 3 will apear04:39
corinth|Toad: It will have resizing options, but it's not done yet.04:39
kyekdub@GotWork:~$ kicker04:40
kyeERROR: kicker is already running!04:40
kyebut i still can not see the taskbar04:40
|Toadis there any way i can get my system tray power/battery settings in kde4?04:43
|Toadwhen i unplug it, the screen doesn't dim anymore04:43
Onyxhow can i remove kio_media_mounthelper?04:52
posingaspopularsudo /etc/init.d/kicker restart should do it04:52
posingaspopularim not positive though kye04:52
posingaspopularor you could try 'force-reload'04:52
posingaspopularbut im going to bed, gl04:52
mot__what's the word i'm looking for04:54
mot__when you take a noise and convert it to a word...04:54
mot__i.e.04:54
kyeposingaspopular: I get a Error i will try to paste04:54
mot__a sneeze sounds like "a-chew"04:54
mot__damn what's that word..04:54
kye X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 304:58
kye  Major opcode:  1904:58
kye  Minor opcode:  004:58
kye  Resource id:  0x1c00fce04:58
kyeX Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 304:58
kye  Major opcode:  1904:58
kye  Minor opcode:  004:58
kye  Resource id:  0x180009704:58
kyesorry for the flood04:58
kyethis is the error i get when i run kicker04:58
se7en_!ps |04:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ps - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:59
zachary_does anyone here have an issue with firefox in kubuntu 7.10, where when scrolling, the page stutters consistantly every other second?04:59
zachary_It is not another process running either, almost like the cpu peaks out..05:00
hsystemx_zachary, can be video issue.05:01
hsystemx_do you have the correct drivers for your video carD?05:01
zachary_hsystemx_ I assue Kubuntu uses the same gma910 driver than Ubuntu does, which works fine.  Any Suggestions?05:02
hsystemx_what procesor do you have?05:03
hsystemx_video card?, memory? , any candy eyes stuff?05:03
hsystemx_on?05:03
zachary_No eye candy, Intel Pentium M 2.0ghz, 2gb ram, its a thinkpad Z60t05:04
hsystemx_and its only with firefox, doenst happen with konqueror?05:04
hsystemx_doesnt*05:04
zachary_nope05:05
zachary_just firefox05:05
zachary_hmmm, it looks like it reverted to a generic intel vesa driver, let me restart X, and see if that fixes it :)05:06
hsystemx_ok05:07
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Makuseruwhat opens a .raw? (RAW Camera Image)05:08
hsystemx_am, try opening it with gimp ?05:09
acme64alright! everything is OK05:09
acme64new issue if you will05:10
acme64installin kde405:10
acme64To avoid having to start a second X server for a full session install xserver-xephyr and run Xephyr :1 then  and run /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde in the Xerphyr xterm.05:10
acme64dunno what that mean, how do i do that?05:10
hsystemx_acme 6405:10
eatThisAndDieguys, i'm using pidgin for IMs, How do i configure it so taht the taskbar blinks when there is a new msg?05:11
eatThisAndDieAFAIK i should be configuring KNotify rite?05:11
nibbeHi people05:11
hsystemx_alt + f2 , write konsole  ,  ENTER!  ,  write sudo apt-get update   , ENTER!   , writer sudo apt-get install xserver-xephyr05:11
acme64oo,h, its a package05:11
nibbeQuite funny, can't find how to change the screen resolution, where do I do that? (Kubuntu)05:12
hsystemx_after that   ,  alt + f2 again, write Xephyr :1 , ENTER!05:12
acme64and i do that like, right now05:12
acme64not switching to kde4 yet?05:12
hsystemx_after all of that, it is supposed to pop up some kind of terminal .konsole, in there write: /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde05:13
hsystemx_ENTER.05:13
hsystemx_im nto a kde user :)05:13
hsystemx_not805:13
hsystemx_not*05:13
acme64hmm05:13
acme64sounds simple enough05:13
hsystemx_yep, give it a try05:13
NickPrestaif I had to use a Debian repository, would Stable or Testing be close to *buntu 7.10?05:15
acme64Extended Input Devices not yet supported. Impelement it at line 625 in ../../../../hw/kdrive/src/kinput.c05:16
acme64Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list!05:16
acme64:o05:16
acme64i broke xephyr it seems05:16
nibbeQuite funny, can't find how to change the screen resolution, where do I do that? (Kubuntu)05:18
acme64nibbe: click the k menu and go to system settings05:19
nibbefound it05:19
acme64then monitor & display05:19
nibbehow do i open a .tar.gz in the terminal?05:21
zachary_hmm, that didn't seem to work either.  It is using the i810 driver.  I could've sworn there is a newer driver that Ubuntu used for my GPU05:21
ForgeAusnibbe what do you mean how to extract it?05:23
ForgeAusor how to view the files in it?05:23
nibbeyeah05:23
ForgeAus(if you have midnight commander you can view the files in it)05:23
ForgeAusthe program your looking for is tar05:23
ForgeAusI'm not so good with the switches you need tho05:23
eatThisAndDienibbe: tar -xzvf filename.tar.gz05:23
Dr_willismc is a darn handy tool05:23
ForgeAusso do a man tar05:23
Dr_willis!info unp05:23
ubotuunp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.12 (gutsy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB05:23
Dr_willisunp is handy also. for lazy people like me.05:24
ForgeAusok eatThis seems to know better :)05:24
eatThisAndDieyes, and now i need to know.... how do i set the "urgent hint" thing?05:24
eatThisAndDiei want it to blink til kingdom come.05:24
ForgeAuswhat urgent hint thing?05:25
eatThisAndDierite now it blinks like 5 times and stops.05:25
eatThisAndDiesend 'urgent hint' to the window,05:25
eatThisAndDiewhich is supposed to cause minimized windows to like... blink.05:25
ForgeAusoh kinda like notifying a change has occurred?05:26
eatThisAndDieexactly05:26
eatThisAndDiei specifically want my messages tat i get with pidgin to cause the window to blink05:26
ForgeAuslike say konversation turns red when theres a message you havn't read05:26
ForgeAus(when its minimized)05:26
eatThisAndDieit DOES?05:26
ForgeAuserm pigdin is beyond me05:26
ForgeAusyes it does at least in kubuntu05:26
ForgeAusisn't pigdin gaims remake?05:26
eatThisAndDieyeah it is05:27
ForgeAusyeah sorry I don't know much about that05:27
eatThisAndDiethey had some agreement with AIM for the usage of the name,05:27
ForgeAuskonversation is only IRC05:27
eatThisAndDieAFAIK anyway05:27
ForgeAusyou need kopete for other IM's... (or pigdin)05:27
ForgeAuskopete can do IRC but its kinda strange, not really my idea of IRC that way...05:27
eatThisAndDieyeah, i dont particularly like kopete.05:28
familydoes anyone know if ndiswrapper is supported out of the box? the reason behind this is i dont have a ethernet card only a wireless.05:28
ForgeAusoh don't get me wrong overall I like the app I just don't find it all that suitable for IRC05:28
eatThisAndDiei was used to KSirc05:28
eatThisAndDieon fedora that is,05:28
familyso i need to be able to use ndiswrapper to load up my wireless driver. with out it on the disc im pretty screwed :)05:28
ForgeAushavn't really fiddled with ksirc05:28
Dr_willisive not used ksirc in.. ages...05:29
acme64i tihnk you need a plugin for pidgin to do that05:29
eatThisAndDiefamily: AFAIK it is,05:29
acme64cuz its not in the default options05:29
ForgeAuskopete is fairly comparable to trillian for windows ... (well maybe not the astra version)05:29
familyAFAIK?05:29
acme64as far as i know05:29
Dr_willis!afaik05:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about afaik - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:29
familyaw lol thanks05:29
eatThisAndDieacme64: thats right, I have Message Notification set up.05:29
Dr_willis!info wtf05:29
ubotuPackage wtf does not exist in gutsy05:29
acme64lol05:29
Dr_willisThere used to be some command that told ya what all these anacromyms ment.05:30
familylatest version right i believe you guys are in gustsy?05:30
Dr_willisbut i forget its name.05:30
acme64!info in-my-pants05:30
ubotuPackage in-my-pants does not exist in gutsy05:30
acme64pwned05:30
acme64family:  i dont even know lol05:30
acme64where do ya check05:30
eatThisAndDiefamily: I'm on 7.10, no idea whats the code for it05:30
family:)05:30
acme64i get adept tryin to auto update, but it always fails with some erro05:31
ForgeAushmmm its a pity the open source kylix isn't being developed anymore05:31
acme64i dont think it has root privilage to update05:31
familyyea thats gutsy05:31
ForgeAusI guess lazarus has to do as a replacement05:31
eatThisAndDieI had an idea for a restaurant: Worlds Tastiest Fish (WTF)05:31
ForgeAuslol eatThis05:31
Dr_willisI rember all the hype about Kylix when it came out..05:31
familyso gusty has ndiswrapper on the load i dont have to apt-get ndiswrapper and apt-get ndiswrapper-utils?05:32
ForgeAuswhat some poison type? (isn't puffer fish poisonous?)05:32
eatThisAndDieAnd if your food's late; you go "WTF" to the waiter. WTF being Where's The Food05:32
Dr_willisPuffer Fish is very posionous.05:32
Dr_williswell parts of it. :)05:32
eatThisAndDieI prefer BlowFish05:32
eatThisAndDieits secure05:32
eatThisAndDie:D05:32
ForgeAuslol eatThis :)05:32
corinthHaha.05:32
ForgeAusencrypted fish, what next!05:32
familyim trying to get rid of pclos05:33
* ForgeAus tosses eatThis a Tuna and asks WTF can't I encrypt this?... 05:33
acme64ok so my xephyr is broken anyone know what this means?05:33
acme64Extended Input Devices not yet supported. Impelement it at line 625 in ../../../../hw/kdrive/src/kinput.c05:33
eatThisAndDieForge: try apt-get install libmcrypt05:33
eatThisAndDie:D05:33
ForgeAusahh xephyr... the xnest-like proggy :)05:33
familyshould i get alternate install or desktop?05:34
ForgeAusacme which kubuntu u using? edgy?05:34
acme64iunno05:34
ForgeAuscheck your xorg.conf05:34
familyuname05:34
familyuname -r i think it is05:35
ForgeAusyou may just need to take out the laptop/tablet input control stuff05:35
familythen whats the kernel05:35
acme64Linux acme-lnx 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 08:02:57 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux05:35
familythat would be i think the latest gutsy05:35
familyyea its gusty05:35
ForgeAushehe nice gutsy :)05:35
family7.1005:35
ForgeAusI like feisty myself...05:35
ForgeAusbut only had edgy :)05:35
acme64first time runnin linux :p05:35
acme64no difference to me i suppose05:36
eatThisAndDiethe names............ they burn05:36
ForgeAusacme check out your xorg.conf (forgot where it resides prolly somewhere in /etc/x11 ??? at a guess)05:36
acme64yea05:36
familyforgeaus do you know if ndiswrapper is supported out of the box? or has it on the install05:36
ForgeAusum family is it in adept?05:36
ForgeAusif so just install it that way...05:36
familyyea see thats the problem05:36
ForgeAusI think thats how it works05:36
familyi need it on the ce05:36
familycd05:36
ForgeAusI don't know much about ndiswrapper to be honest05:37
familyi installed this last time05:37
ForgeAusoh you need a custom CD?05:37
ForgeAusthe live CD prolly doesn't have it by default05:37
familyand couldnt get my wireless to work on my laptop because i dont have a ethernet card only wireless05:37
ForgeAusso your out-of-the-box question is a no05:37
acme64xorg.conf is open05:37
eatThisAndDiefamily: whats your purpose with this? You want your wireless to be available out of the box?05:37
familyyep05:37
ForgeAusacme, what input devices are in there?05:37
familyeatthisanddie my lap top doesnt have a ethernet port05:38
acme64all of them...lol05:38
familyonly wireless card :P05:38
ForgeAusthere should be a stylus, or a touchpad, etc one that you can disable05:38
eatThisAndDiefamily: i dunno how much this will help, but mine worked out of the box...05:38
ForgeAuswhich MAY fix your error05:38
acme64stylus, eraser, cursor05:38
ForgeAus(I think edgy had 3 of them05:38
ForgeAusyes those ones05:38
acme64delete them?05:38
ForgeAusdisable them (commet them out or something)05:38
familyeatthisanddie do you have a broadcom wireless chip set05:38
NickPrestafamily, *buntu comes with the ndiswrapper module pre-installed. It needs the ndiswrapper-utils package to get it working. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper#head-715b64e4eb010761a0c694dde40d3a569f414b5e05:38
ForgeAusI wouldn't suggest deleting...05:38
eatThisAndDiei'm pretty sure mine's an intel.05:39
familyhmm05:39
familysounds good05:39
ForgeAusI think comments are just a # to put infront of the line...05:39
eatThisAndDiesorry bro, its a company laptop which i just got on friday05:39
eatThisAndDiei'm prety new to it meself.05:39
ForgeAusthat way if you need them sometime later on (unlikely) or if something goes wrong you can fix it05:39
familyill just load the utils on a cd or sumthin05:39
acme64ok done05:39
ForgeAusnow try it and see if xephyr still gives the same error05:39
acme64nope!05:40
acme64new error though05:40
ForgeAusawesome05:40
acme64lol05:40
ForgeAuslol05:40
familywow this is great hey thanks nickpresta05:40
acme64Fatal server error:05:40
acme64Could not create server lock file: /tmp/.X1-lock05:40
NickPrestafamily, no problem05:40
ForgeAusyeah well that means its busy already05:40
acme64oh05:40
ForgeAusI'm not sure how to get around that one05:40
acme64uh its not runnin tho05:40
ForgeAusyour running xephyr from outside X?05:40
acme64time to kill some processes >:)05:40
ForgeAusno wait05:41
ForgeAuskilling processes isn't going to help05:41
acme64too late, already killing05:41
acme64DEATH FROM ABOVE!05:41
acme64etc05:41
ForgeAuswhatever, good luck05:41
acme64hmm, its not runnin05:42
ForgeAuswhat isn't?05:42
ForgeAusyour x server?05:42
acme64xephyr05:42
ForgeAusof coruse not it gave you an error05:42
acme64o.005:42
acme64lol05:42
ForgeAusif it were running you'd have another window05:42
acme64well wtf does that error mean05:42
ForgeAusI told you05:42
ForgeAusit means theres already an x-server running05:43
ForgeAusthus the lock file is busy already...05:43
ForgeAusI'm not sure how xephyr is supposed to work actually05:43
acme64but, the website says i gotta run the xephyr and then type in something05:43
acme64and then i can boot into kde305:43
acme64405:43
* ForgeAus shrugs05:43
acme64lemme restart this05:44
acme64bbl05:44
ForgeAusgood luck05:44
kyesorry for the flood05:47
kyeI can not see my taskbar and i tried restarting kicker but i get a error?05:47
ForgeAuskye can you end the kicker process thats currently running if there is one?05:48
kyeyes05:48
ForgeAus(I think you use kdesu ksysguard to end processes?)05:48
ForgeAusok05:48
ForgeAusso do that05:48
kyeok05:49
ForgeAusthen run kicker05:49
ForgeAus(once all kicker processes are gone)05:49
kyetaskbar comes back then leaves..05:49
kyethen i get this error..05:49
kye1sec05:49
kyeits 4lines05:49
familyaright looks like ill be joining the kubuntu crew again :)05:49
corinthfamily: Yay! :-P05:50
ForgeAushey family ... what do you mean joining the kubuntu krew? just monitoring this channel05:50
ForgeAusor as a developer or what?05:50
family:)05:50
kye[21:58] <kye> X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 305:50
kye[21:58] <kye>   Major opcode:  1905:50
kye[21:58] <kye>   Minor opcode:  005:50
kye[21:58] <kye>   Resource id:  0x1c00fce05:50
familydeveloper and helpin i guess i was working on some stuff but then went back to school for awhile05:50
kye[21:58] <kye> X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 305:50
kye[21:58] <kye>   Major opcode:  1905:50
kye[21:58] <kye>   Minor opcode:  005:50
kye[21:58] <kye>   Resource id:  0x180009705:50
kyesorry05:50
kyei get that05:50
NickPresta!pastebin | kye in the future use05:51
ubotukye in the future use: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:51
familyhey kye pastebin is your friend05:51
kyesorry :( i will due next time05:51
ForgeAuskye I've seen that error before not sure how to help you with it tho05:51
surgymy sound keeps closing and killing klauncher at the same time, can someone help me? i know thats vague buts its the best i can do, with what i have05:52
corinthHeh. I hardly think that four lines, forewarned, needs pastepin NickPresta. :-P05:52
kyehumm ok.05:52
ForgeAusme too corinth but some people have strict definitionso f what they call a flood05:52
Dr_willishe could of edited them to be on 1 line. :)05:52
NickPrestacorinth, that's why I said next time. Usually > 3 lines should be pastebin'd05:52
ForgeAuslol Dr Willis05:52
corinthI tend to go by the rule of 5 ;-)05:53
Dr_willisof course.. the errors really dident say much.05:53
familyi still feel that ndiswrapper should be installed by default wish someone would mock that up of course i could lend a hand and open the squash file and place the .deb files in to the corresponding directory05:53
ForgeAusPresta does that work for extremely long lines of three also ?05:53
surgyanyone?05:53
kyeis there a way to uninstall then reinstall the taskbar?05:53
ForgeAushey surgy :)05:53
corinthkye: For what purpose?05:53
Dr_williskye,  Huh?05:53
surgyheya ForgeAus hows it been man>?05:53
familywow05:53
ForgeAuskicker is part of kde's main package05:53
kyewell i cant see it?05:53
ForgeAushey surgy :) great05:53
surgyForgeAus: im having problems with my sound05:53
ForgeAusI killed my kubuntu again05:53
kyethen why did it just stop working05:53
surgylol05:53
Dr_willisUnisntalling/reionstlling it wont affect much of anything.05:53
familyget rid of the kicker sounds intresting05:53
ForgeAussound...05:53
ForgeAusADSA?05:54
Dr_willisif your users settings are messed up.. they are messed up. :)05:54
surgywell i was trying to burn an iso using the command "kdesudo k3b"05:54
nibbehow do i use a .cfg file? (It's a new theme. Kubuntu)05:54
ForgeAusmy sound doesn't work anyway, so I probably can't help anyway05:54
kyelol05:54
kyewell a man..05:54
family:) who needs sound im deaf05:54
kyehow can i fix it lolol05:54
ForgeAusits kdesu not kdesudo05:54
kyeguess i must format05:54
ForgeAusdo you need to be root to burn?05:55
surgyand klauncher crashed and reported it was something to do with the sound, i also have this problem on some cedega games and everytime i play an emualted game on my psx emulator05:55
Dr_willisnibbe,  kde themes can be a bit complex.   a 'theme' is made of parts. such as window decorations, widgets, color sets, fonts, and icons.05:55
familyno forgeAus05:55
eatThisAndDieForge: no u dont. I think05:55
familyunless your permissions are messed up05:55
ForgeAussurgy just run k3b then05:55
Dr_williskde4 uses 'kdesudo' under kubuntu i belive. :)05:55
surgyForgeAus: yeah man, it wont grant rw permissions to cdrom0 without root access for some reason05:55
ForgeAusoh ok Dr willis, I didn't know that my bad05:55
familyanyone test out that kde4? whats the input on that any good?05:56
Dr_willisForgeAus,  aparently thers some bugs/work arounds going on..05:56
Dr_willisfamily,  i would wait a few more weeks befor trying it05:56
familyaww05:56
ForgeAushmmm does cd's show up in fstab? I wonder if theres an issue there05:56
Dr_willisLets say i had to remove kde4 to get where i could install other stuff. :)05:56
surgyForgeAus: buts thats not my concern here my concern is that klauncher crashes a lot and im pretty sure my sound driver whatever is causing it,05:56
familywell if hes having problems with k3b why not reinstall it see if it fixes the problem05:56
Dr_willisautomounting filesystems/removeable devices normally dont have a fstab entry05:57
ForgeAussurgy can you update or reinstall your sound driver?05:57
surgyfamily: its not just k3b though it happens with three seamingly unrelated programs05:57
ForgeAusI really aren't the kinda guy to ask about this...05:57
Dr_willisfamily,  windows 'thinking' is to remove/reinstall..05:57
familyaww05:57
corinthFirefox 3 beta2 seems really ugly under KDE, the tab bar, etc. Anyone find a fix for this?05:57
eatThisAndDiethe only thng i know about sound is ALSA05:57
Dr_willisit rarely works under linux. :)05:57
ForgeAusDr Willis I admit I come from a Windows Background...05:57
kyei got it to work05:58
kyei open kiba dock05:58
ForgeAusand reinstallation does have its merits... at times... even in the linux world...05:58
eatThisAndDieguys, anyone know what window manager 7.10 uses?05:58
kyeand my whole taskbar came back05:58
lasca1i compiled and ran ndiswrapper from source and have since removed all the modules.  However, it's still registered as a bash command.  How do I completely remove it?05:58
familyDr willis worked for me many a time although i also delete conf files and redo some things05:58
kyehow did that happen?05:58
ForgeAuswindows manager? eat this KDE is the windows manager05:58
surgyDr_willis: any insight into my problem? or otherwise any debugging info you can give me so i can ask a more intelegent question?05:58
jussi01eatThisAndDie: kwin05:58
ForgeAusfor all Kubuntu05:58
Dr_willistoo many 'people' in the linux channels think that removeing system tools.. will some how affect  the users setting files   - which often get messed up. :)05:58
ForgeAusyeah well kwin is a little more specific ut yeah05:58
eatThisAndDieok, any idea how i can configure it?05:58
corintheatThisAndDie: He means Kwin.05:58
eatThisAndDiekwin anyway?05:58
Dr_willissurgy,  whats the issue? i missed it.05:58
corinthLol.05:58
familyDr willis if i had it my way i would use fvmw or even flux box05:59
kyeDr_willis: It came by when i opened  kiba-dock.. why?05:59
nibbehow do i open theme.cfg in the konsole?05:59
surgyDr_willis: my sound something or another crashed and took down klauncher with it, and it happened while i was burning a cd this has also happened before while using cedega and again while running a playstation emulator05:59
familyjust so i could stay away from bug problems05:59
Dr_williskye,  kiba-dock i though tried to replace the kicker panel.06:00
corinthFirefox 3 beta 2 seems to attempt to take on the look of the desktop it's on. On my Ubuntu, it has tango icons. On Windows, it blends great with Vista. In Kubuntu though, it loks terrible. Any way to disable this feature?06:00
Dr_willissurgy,  not sure on that. try it as a different user. as a test perhaps.06:00
Dr_willisHmm. I dont even have firefox 3 beta2.. i got an earlier one still.06:01
surgyDr_willis: well i tryed to restart klauncher from a terminal and it reports that klauncher is not allowed to be started becuase it has to be ran via kinit and is supposed to start automaticly, which it does it just crashes at random and inconveniant times06:01
corinthBig difference between beta 1 and beta 2, Dr_willis06:02
corinthSeveral new cool features.06:02
surgyok guys im gonna log out and back in so i can access this cd, i need some data off of it06:02
surgyi cant mount it without klaunch, and sense it crashed during the writing process of the cd, lol anyways ill be back06:03
familyhows the support for ics now in feisty fawn?06:04
Dr_williscorinth,  i think i got B2 on my windows box. But i normally stick with the older one.. since all my plugins i like are not ported yet. :(06:05
family(internet connection sharing) i would love to hook my xbox up06:05
corinthDr_willis: What plugins do you use that you don't want to lose for the moment?06:05
surgyok im back06:05
surgyklauncher started06:05
Dr_williscorinth,  i got a google thing that syncs all my pcs/bookmarks mainly. :)06:05
Dr_williscorinth,  i imagine it will get updated soon.06:06
corinthDr_willis: Ah, browser sync. Foxmarks does the same thing, and it will be updated very soon ^_^06:06
surgyDr_willis: but i try to open my cd, and it is mounted properly, but it says: "unable to create io-slave, Klauncher says: unknown protocol"06:06
Dr_willissurgy,  if its mounted. (check mount command) just point your file manager at /media/cdrom :)06:07
Dr_willisor was it /media/cdrom006:08
familyany input on ics?06:08
surgyDr_willis: yeah and when it tries to open the cd to display its contents it gives the before mentioned error06:08
corinthDoes anyone know if Songbird is stable enough yet to use on a regular basis?06:08
Dr_willisfamily,  there used to be a large  'ip-masquerading howto' that showed how to share the network conenction with  a linux box. But there may be more gui-friendly way to do it now a days.06:09
Dr_willissurgy,  try the shell?06:09
familyand that way would be?06:09
surgyDr_willis: whats the defualt mount point of my cd rom?06:09
marx2kheres a weird KDE question. I have a bunch of samba/cifs sharepoints from a remote server mounted.. along with my always-mounted 500G usb hard drive. They are also automounted from fstab.  But they only show up on the desktop when I mount another USB hard drive.  Why would that happen?06:10
corinthmarx2k: I have the same problem.06:10
Dr_willissurgy,  if its mounted. ( /media/cdrom :)06:10
marx2kcorinth: have you looked for help before in regards to that?06:10
surgyDr_willis: i can see the contents of the cd in the shell, that means dolphin is the devil right?06:11
Dr_willisI use songbird all the time. No hassles.06:11
Dr_willisWell Dolphin is... well.. i wont go there.06:11
Dr_willissurgy,  you point dolphin to /media/cdrom and it still messes up? Thats odd..06:11
lasca1dr_willis: what do you know about mad-wifi?06:11
Dr_willistry konqueror ?06:11
surgyDr_willis: well im clicking on the cdrom icon that pops up on my desktop when a cd is mounted06:12
familybe back in a minute06:12
Dr_willislasca1,  I know to stay away from wireless.. :)06:12
* lasca1 chuckles06:12
Dr_willissurgy,  DONT click.. enter the 'address/path' of /media/cdrom006:12
Dr_willisor /media/cdrom06:12
surgyi dont even have konq installed06:12
* Dr_willis screams you Kids with all your Klicking! 06:12
surgyDr_willis: how do you even do that in dolphin? man i miss konq06:12
marx2kso use konq06:13
Dr_willissurgy,  no idea. i dont use dolphin06:13
surgyDr_willis: i figured out how to do it but i get the same error06:13
Dr_willisits weird that its complaining about a simple mountpoint.06:14
acme64\o/06:14
surgycan i "sudo apt-get remove dolphin" and then "sudo apt-get install konqueror" to get things back how they should be?06:14
Dr_willisInstall 'mc' use it for a file manager in the shell.. copy stuff over.. then eat the dolphin. :)06:14
Dr_willisno need to be so drastik06:14
Dr_willis!dolphin06:14
ubotuDolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.06:14
marx2kwhy not just use konq as your default file browser?06:14
surgyDr_willis: but my distro didnt even come with konq installed, i need to get it from the repos right?06:15
marx2kit should have06:16
acme64ok wth06:16
ForgeAuskonq or krusader :) its all good06:16
acme64the os is outputting sound fine06:16
acme64amarok wont06:16
Dr_willissurgy,  what are you running?06:16
surgykubuntu 7.1006:16
Dr_willisThat has Konquer included..06:17
marx2kthat comes with konq06:17
surgyim not seeing it in the kde menu06:17
marx2kkonq is the default web browser on that06:17
surgygot it06:17
Dr_willisnever noticed :) i always use the places panel tool.06:17
ForgeAusmarx its actually called konqueror06:17
corinthI wonder if konqueror is abbreviated konq because no one knows how to spell it... >_>06:18
ForgeAuskonq or konqi is for short :)06:18
marx2kyep06:18
marx2kI didnt want to type that out06:18
ForgeAuscorinth apparently some people know how to spell it06:18
surgyDr_willis: guess what? it wont open the cdrom with konq either06:18
ForgeAusabbreviations are handier tho06:18
corinthForgeAus: :-P06:18
ForgeAusthey save on typing and save on typos :)06:18
marx2kI have mental alias file06:18
ForgeAusI'm one person that does make typos even on words I know how to spell06:19
marx2kOtherwise I'd be typing K Desktop Environment 4.0 Sucks instead of KDE4 sucks :)06:19
Dr_willissurgy,  reboot! :)06:19
acme64you know i tihnk i like kde3 better06:19
ForgeAusKDE4 != KDE 4.0?06:19
Dr_willissurgy,  or use the shell to copy the stuff over.06:19
ForgeAusme too acme, sofar but its early days yet06:19
marx2kacme: You know, I DO like kde3 better... so far06:19
acme64i dont like the start menu06:20
surgyDr_willis: lol my first day learning kubuntu you told me that "reboot" is the worst word to use in linux06:20
Dr_willisI just removed the kde4 stuff for now.06:20
acme64the special effects are nice but rather minor06:20
Dr_willissurgy,  well some times you need to use a hammer. :)06:20
acme64and buggy06:20
marx2kI dont like the start menu either06:20
marx2kand yeah, its real buggy06:20
acme64cant change it back can ya?06:20
ForgeAuslike I said its early days yet06:20
marx2kkdesu doesnt recognize my password so I cant use any graphical apps as root06:20
acme64better yet06:20
acme64can i get the oxygen theme on kde3?06:20
surgyok later guys06:20
ForgeAusmarx use kdesudo06:21
ForgeAus(if you have it)06:21
Dr_willisThe panel in kde4 is  just another widget/plasmoid i think.  so it will be tweakable some time.. :)06:21
marx2kForgeAus: Whats the difference?06:21
Dr_willisI think.06:21
acme64i dont the widgets06:21
acme64got this big funky border around it06:21
redickhola06:21
mrtimbohi06:21
ForgeAusmarx kdesudo shouldn't be required but for some reason theres a bug in it so kdesu isn't functional  or something so someone told me06:21
Dr_williskde4 is all about the plasmaoids.06:21
Dr_willisfor kde4 - use kdesudo06:21
marx2kForgeAus: Interesting06:21
Dr_willisor so i hear. :)06:22
redickalguien que     hable español06:22
marx2kHeh thats what I get for editing my own entries in AppLauncher :)06:22
redicksoy nuevo con kubuntu06:22
acme64dimelo06:22
ForgeAusDr Willis was probably he who told me06:22
ForgeAusIt sounds like it may be a temporary measure06:22
NickPresta!es | redick06:22
uboturedick: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.06:22
Dr_willisForgeAus,  and it was some  op in here that told me. :)06:22
mrtimboi installed kubuntu on my dads laptop a few months ago and he just told me thatafter grub  it wont boot unless he holds alt+f106:23
redickke belleza si yo kiero estar aki06:23
Dr_willissome wrapper that worked around some bugs with kdesu.  or so i was told.06:23
acme64well ther eu go06:23
ForgeAusbut who am I to posit that? I don't know for sure don't akte my word on anything... I just like to speculate :)06:23
mrtimbowhat do i do06:23
acme64lol@redick06:23
NickPresta!english | redick06:23
uboturedick: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat06:23
marx2kmvtimbo: That sounds a little odd.. At what point does he have to hold alt+f1?06:23
acme64thats command is rather useless06:23
redickhola06:23
redickacme6406:23
NickPresta!es | redick06:23
uboturedick: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.06:23
mrtimboabout where it shows the status bar i guess06:23
Dr_willisalt-f1? Hmm ive seen some laptops that default to the monitor out and not the lcd out.06:23
mrtimboand if he doesnt then it wont boot06:23
marx2kmvtimbo: Oh... but does he get to an X session otr just to terminal?06:24
Dr_willissure hes not hitting the special laptop function keys and f1?06:24
mrtimbohe doesnt get anything06:24
marx2kSounds like he's going into TTY106:24
acme64how do i make the text in konversation bigger?06:24
Dr_willisI would disable the splash, and framebuffers for a start. I guess. (i always say that) :)06:24
mrtimbothe hard drive led does nothing and the screen stays blank06:24
ForgeAuswhat happens if you have a disfunctional monitor on a laptop and slice the cable between the keyboard and screen?06:24
marx2kAcme: Configure/Interface/Fonts06:25
Dr_williswell night all.06:25
ForgeAus(using an external vga of course)06:25
acme64OOOH YEA06:25
mrtimboill check it out tomorrow, i just thought i would ask before i started working on it06:25
acme64thats the stuff lol06:25
ForgeAuslol acme06:25
marx2kmrtimbo:  sounds like his X server is not functional. youll need to check out the logs that X drops (/var/log/Xorg.0.log)06:26
mrtimbook06:26
marx2kprobably a video driver issue06:26
ForgeAushow different is the /etc dir on an install to the /etc dir on a liveCD?06:26
marx2kyou can probably diagnose by doing "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE" and it should tell you all the errors it encountered06:26
acme64one more question06:27
acme64lightscribe app? we have any06:27
redickespañol06:27
redicknaaaadie español06:28
marx2kacme: for CD labeling?06:28
redickalguien ke hable spain06:29
acme64yes06:29
acme64redick, escriba /join #kubuntu-es06:29
marx2kacme: have you checked to see if k3b does it?06:30
acme64k3b? whats that06:30
redickgracias06:30
marx2kk3b is the Nero of KDE :)06:30
acme64ic06:30
marx2ksudo aptitude install k3b06:30
marx2k!k3b06:30
ubotuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto06:30
acme64dont think it does06:31
acme64i dont see anything06:31
marx2kinteresting...06:31
=== ronnie is now known as trophyhead
trophyheadhey all : )06:32
marx2kacme64: http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/linux/index.aspx06:32
trophyhead<---drops a pin  /   tink!...echo...echo........echo..........06:33
ForgeAushehe06:35
* ForgeAus echos that sentiment06:35
ForgeAusisn't k3b built into kubuntu? no need to install it06:35
trophyheadmy question if any are awake in here : )    when I installed a game it said it was installing 5 programs, then when I uninstalled it only says it's removing 1, so does that mean 4 thing are just floating around useless & taking up my precious MB's  : )06:36
marx2kForgetAus: Maybe. I am not sure. Its a pretty large program though so maybe to save on space, it was not included? I have no idea06:36
marx2ktrophy: through what method did you install it?06:36
ForgeAusactually you can get an app from lightscribe themselves, I think theres a *nix vers... can't quite remember06:37
NickPrestatrophyhead, sudo apt-get autoremove06:37
ForgeAusI don't know if its built into k3b tho06:37
acme64what do i do with a deb file?06:37
NickPrestaacme64, sudo dpkg -i DEBFILE.deb06:37
acme64ty06:37
trophyheadk nick ill try that thx : )06:37
ForgeAusI don't think nero has a *nix vers of its lightscribe addon06:37
marx2k!deb06:39
ubotudeb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click (in Ubuntu) or click (in Kubuntu) on them to start the GDebi utility.06:39
trophyheadmarx ther games that come with the kubuntu games , i installed em from there : )06:39
acme64hey is there like a wildcard command?06:39
marx2kacme: for what06:39
NickPrestaacme64, *06:39
acme64sp i can do like debfile8.deb06:39
acme64err06:39
acme64debfile*.deb06:39
marx2kHmmm06:39
marx2kyou probably want to do it 1 by 1 :006:39
acme64cuz it really sucks havin to type out these weird ass package names06:39
marx2khit tab to autocomplete filename06:40
acme64well its the only one in the folder06:40
NickPrestaacme64, yes, also, Tab Completion06:40
acme64!06:40
acme64that'll work06:40
marx2kor just click on them in konqueror06:40
ForgeAusits not worth looking for borland kylix is it?06:40
marx2kDamn it! Konqueror keeps crashing when I hit F5 to refresh06:40
marx2kgrrr06:40
ForgeAus(too much work to install into kubuntu?)06:40
ForgeAusone way to fix that marx06:41
ForgeAusdon't use f5 :)06:41
marx2khahah06:41
marx2kyeah...06:41
marx2kugh06:41
marx2kOk.. what I dont get is why Yuakauke is  not installed by default in KDE06:41
marx2kits the most useful app out there06:41
marx2kYakuake I mean06:42
NickPrestamarx2k, sometimes. I used to use it on my laptop that could only do 1024x768. On larger resolutions, I find it easier to just have a Konsole open in the background all the time06:42
ForgeAuswhat is it?06:42
NickPrestaForgeAus, it is a quake style konsole drop down06:43
marx2kForgeAus: dropdown terminal on keypress (F12 as default)06:43
acme64http://www.lacie.com/us/products/product.htm?pid=1080306:43
NickPresta!info yakuake06:43
ubotuyakuake: a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 167 kB, installed size 1048 kB06:43
acme64lightscribe labler06:43
marx2kNickPresta: Im so used to Yakuake now, I feel odd when I hit F12 and nothign happens06:43
ForgeAusyup acme that looks like the one06:43
acme64ok now what do i do with an rpm file06:44
NickPrestamarx2k, I felt like that for a while too, after I stopped using it.06:44
acme64whoa wtf06:44
acme64i just moved my entire desktop06:44
marx2kacme: delete it.. you CAN install rpm files but it's a hassle.. rpm files are for other distributions (redhat)06:45
marx2k!alien06:45
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)06:45
ForgeAusI don't get it it just looks like a skinnable terminal window to me06:45
acme64well thats the only download on the page06:45
marx2kbogus06:45
marx2kForge: You talking about Yakuake?06:45
NickPrestait's suggested that you don't install RPM archives (via alien). I would imagine it safer to use checkinstall to create a deb...06:45
ForgeAusyeah marx06:45
NickPresta!checkinstall06:45
ubotucheckinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!06:45
marx2kForgeAus: The beauty is the dropdown functionality. F12, you got a terminal... F12 again, it crawls back off screen...06:45
marx2kbut the shell remains open06:46
ForgeAusso what I can always minimize a window in kde anyway06:46
marx2kI usually run htop in a yakuake terminal window ... verrrry convenient06:46
marx2kForge: yeah but then you have to hunt for it when you want to unmin it06:46
ForgeAushunt? well I guess you have a million things in your taskbar06:46
marx2kForgeAus: heh.. I guess apps are only as useful as the people who are using them find them :)06:47
ForgeAusnote if you use konsole you only need 1 terminal window on the taskbar anyway if you want more they're tabbed inside it06:47
marx2kSame with Yakuake06:47
ForgeAusof course they are06:47
marx2ktabbed06:47
ForgeAusI'm not saying yakuake sux I just don't see that I need it06:48
marx2kOh.. yeah I understand. Thats why Im saying theyre only useful as you deem them to be06:48
NickPrestagoodnight all. Time for me to sleep.06:49
eatThisAndDieguys, why is kubuntu using dolphin anyway? Can i remove it and default to konqueror06:51
Daisuke_Ido!dolphin06:52
ubotuDolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.06:52
acme64hmm, not sure how this checkinstall works06:52
ForgeAusthey're using Dolphin in order to let Konqueror focus on being a web browser and to have a purpose-built file manager (06:53
ForgeAusrather than focusing on the integration konqi has06:54
acme64firefox > knoquror06:54
acme64konquror06:54
ForgeAusacme therefore firefox + dolphin means no need for konqi06:55
redicka question06:55
ForgeAusredick don't ask to ask, just ask06:55
redickif i cancel the download actualization06:56
redickque pasaria06:56
ForgeAusum I don't speak that language06:56
redickthe sistem is damage?06:57
ForgeAusthe system shouldn't be damaged from quitting a download no06:57
acme64converting the package to deb worked :p06:58
ForgeAusconverting what package?06:58
acme64the rpm06:58
ForgeAusyou didn't alien an rpm did you?06:58
ForgeAusoooh.....06:59
acme64yes i did06:59
ForgeAusgood luck06:59
acme64im so bad06:59
acme64lol06:59
ForgeAusbrave man06:59
acme64alien then dpkg06:59
acme64works fine06:59
ForgeAusdpeends on the rpm06:59
jussi01!wfm06:59
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/06:59
ForgeAusalso many binary (not source) slackware packages work fine in kubuntu06:59
ForgeAusbut I odn't recommend it07:00
acme64well not much of an option in this case07:00
ForgeAusyes well some things are only available as certain package types07:00
acme64it was either this lacie app or the simple labler..which sux bawlz07:00
eatThisAndDieanyone know how to set the icon size in the system tray?07:01
ForgeAuslol I like how the kde4 page says in the bugs section no bugs currently known :)07:01
ForgeAushehe on this page: http://www.kde.org/info/4.0.php07:01
jussi01ForgeAus: hehe07:01
acme64aww man, i dont have an image editor...bs07:02
ForgeAusthen get one07:02
eatThisAndDieacme:kolourpaint07:02
eatThisAndDiesimple and easy, basically like MS Paint07:03
acme64nope07:03
eatThisAndDieGimp?07:03
acme64i got this open office thing07:03
ForgeAushehe kde4 live cd for suse 1107:03
acme64packages i install in kde407:06
acme64are they there in kde307:06
redickI USE NEROLINUX IS GOOD OR BAD07:08
ForgeAusok but not as good as k3b07:08
redickWHY07:08
ForgeAusnless it has been recently upgraded a heck of a lot07:09
redickSO I CHANGE TO K3B07:09
ForgeAusbecause k3b is a current project that is being developed and enhanced, nerolinux is old and pretty much stale...  not that its not usable... just that its not as useful07:09
ForgeAusI recommend that yes, and stop using so many caps07:10
corinthredick: No need to yell, my friend.07:10
* corinth hears crickets chirping.07:13
acme64somehow i dragged my desktop around07:13
acme64now i got a few icons cut off on top07:14
corinthacme64: Your desktop, or the display on your monitor?07:14
acme64desktop07:14
acme64like the wallpaper07:14
corinthDo you have an auto button on your monitor acme64?07:15
ForgeAusyou can always change your screen res or drag and drop the icons back07:17
acme64a whay07:18
acme64what07:19
acme64i ddint change the res07:19
acme64but the wallpaper has this white border around the bottom now07:19
ForgeAusan auto-adjust button .. most LCD monitors have that ability07:19
redickKUBUNTU AND ROCK THE BEST OF WORLD07:19
ForgeAusyes redick we all know Kubuntu is good :)07:20
Zealot87I have a major problem07:22
jussi01!ask | Zealot8707:22
ubotuZealot87: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)07:22
Zealot87im just a little shocked07:22
corinthSpit it out. :P07:22
Zealot87i wanted to project a movie with an old projector that i have.  i believe the res. is 640x48007:23
Zealot87i switched on a second screen and said that it was a 640x480 secondary07:23
Zealot87restart didnt change anything07:23
Zealot87so i set it as the primary screen07:23
Zealot87and restart07:23
Zealot87and now it wont boot x07:23
Zealot87i cant get anything running because the x server isnt running07:23
Zealot87i dont know how to fix the problem and then run x server!07:24
Zealot87i am searching for a needle in a haystack right now07:24
acme64the screen isn't off07:24
acme64the taskbar hasnt movied07:24
acme64its just the wallpaper and the widgets on it07:24
Zealot87i only have a command line07:24
jussi01Zealot87: run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:25
jussi01acme64: ?07:25
acme64lol this thing mounted my cd drive to hda07:26
Zealot87ok now how do i run the x server07:28
jussi01Zealot87: after doing that you can run: startx07:28
Zealot87ok kde is running again, thanks alot! now do you know if I can get my screen duped onto this old projector?07:29
acme64sweet lightscribe is go07:29
jussi01Zealot87: which card do you have?07:29
Zealot87an old ati radeon 920007:30
Zealot87it sadly didnt make the cut for the nicer drivers07:30
Makuserudoes anyone know the name of the FireFox plugin that lets it emulate another browser/operating system?07:30
jussi01Zealot87: yes it did!! (I had one of those until recently, and I like the OS driver much better)07:30
Zealot87well do you know if i can get it to work with this old projector07:31
Zealot87its connected through s-video07:31
ForgeAusresetting now trying out a copy of /etc ... I don't think it will work... but better than not having one07:31
acme64Makuseru: on the tip of my tounge07:32
kadamWhat's the name of the KDE on Windows project?07:32
jussi01!dualhead07:32
ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama07:32
jussi01Zealot87: also look into (google) xrandr07:32
jussi01!info xrandr07:33
ubotuxrandr: X Rotation, Reflection and Resize utility. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.2.2-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 23 kB, installed size 84 kB07:33
jussi01Zealot87: actually, maybe even: man xrandr07:33
acme64dont suppose theres linux support for the zune?07:35
Zealot87how do i use xandr?07:35
jussi01acme64: nope.07:35
jussi01Zealot87: type in terminal: man xrandr07:35
Zealot87jussi01: it says "no manual entry for xandr07:36
vzduchof course not.. how about typing it correctly? :P07:37
jussi01Zealot87: xrandr07:37
jussi01;)07:38
Zealot87"command not found" :P07:38
Zealot87ohhhh07:38
Zealot87hahahaha07:38
Zealot87ok it's a manuel07:39
Zealot87manual*07:39
Zealot87what do i do with it?07:39
vzduchread it07:40
jussi01Zealot87: what do you usually do with a manual ;)07:40
acme64meta+control+s07:40
acme64wtf is meta07:40
Zealot87ugh07:41
acme64lightscribe is alot faster in linux then on windows07:44
acme642x id say07:44
corinthanyone know where the opensuse irc channels are hosted? What network?07:45
jussi01Zealot87: you need a hand? ;) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58194707:46
vzduchcorinth: /j #suse07:46
jussi01acme64: winkey?07:47
spirooHow do I install kde4 inside kubuntu?07:49
jussi01!kde4 | spiroo07:50
ubotuspiroo: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde407:50
acme64i sen a video where you hold something and with the mouse u can drag the desktop around like  a cube, and each side is another virtual desktop07:51
acme64how can i do that07:51
jussi01!compiz | acme6407:53
ubotuacme64: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion07:53
jussi01acme64: you on kde 3.5 or kde4 ?07:53
acme64407:53
acme64sweet lightscribe works perfect07:54
acme64brb07:55
fizzzanybody up ?07:55
jussi01fizzz: YEP07:55
Lynourefizzz: you need help with something?07:56
fizzzjust installed linux mce and its giveing me some orbiter failed to setup transparency any ideas ??07:56
jussi01fizzz: we dont support linux mce here07:56
jussi01!variant | fizzz07:56
ubotufizzz: The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: Linux Mint, LinuxMCE, Ubuntu Ultimate.07:56
fizzzany idea if they have a chat room like this ?07:57
* Ange|us morning07:57
jussi01fizzz: more than likely they do, but their website should say...07:57
fizzzi been trying to install my nvidea driver for linux not haveing much luck with that07:57
jussi01fizzz: I dont know what linux mce has, but on kubuntu it is a relatively simple proceedure.07:59
romunovhum, kde4 isnt' that compatible with its previous version07:59
romunovif you rename a menu, it doesnt recognize its icon08:00
acme64ok wtf im gettin no audio08:00
romunovand the wrap around the desktop icons is jumping around08:00
acme64i think this thing defaulted to my onboard soundcard08:00
acme64instead of my audigy08:00
jussi01romunov: kde4 is in #kubuntu-kde4 ;)08:00
kadamDoes anyone know what the qt4-designer package contains?08:03
stdinkadam: "dpkg -L qt4-designer" too see, or look on http://packages.ubuntu.com08:04
romunovjussi01: i'm just saying.. not trying to resolve anything :>08:04
emilsedghkalorin: it containt the Qt designer i think08:04
emilsedghoh08:04
emilsedghkadam: ^08:04
kadamemilsedgh: Hehheh, well, I knew that much 8)  Does anyone know what I need to start developing for KDE4?08:05
kadamstdin: ty08:05
stdinkadam: a good start is the "kde4-devel" package ;)08:06
fizzzhey if my driver file is a .run file what should i do with it ?08:06
jussi01fizzz: ./filename.run08:06
jussi01in terminal08:06
stdinfizzz: if you have some ubuntu variant install the package08:06
kadamstdin: Haha, alright, thanks 8)08:06
jussi01morning stdin :)08:07
fizzzbut i thought u had to install kubuntu first08:07
stdinjussi01: yes, it is :p08:07
stdinfizzz: try it and see08:07
stdinbetter than installing the .run when you don't know what the drawbacks are08:07
stdin(and there are a few)08:08
fizzzwell i did ysterday and it said no go no worky08:08
stdinhave you tried the -legacy or -new packages too?08:08
fizzzwell it was a ubuntu dvd i burnt a few weeks ago08:09
=== flameasge is now known as flamesage
flamesageHello.08:15
flamesagehello.08:15
flamesageAnyone alive in here?08:15
jussi01I am...08:15
flamesageHave you by any chance tried Alpha 3 for Ubuntu Hardy yet?08:15
jussi01fizzz: you can try /join #linuxmce ... there are a few people there08:16
jussi01flamesage: nope, but you may get better help in #ubuntu+108:16
jussi01although, now is a kinda quiet time...08:17
flamesageyeah..08:17
flamesageThat's why I kind of came here.. lol08:17
flamesageIt's 3 am08:17
flamesageI really need to sleep :(08:17
flamesage*sighs*08:17
* jussi01 kicks flamesage so he can sleep..08:17
flamesageHmm08:18
flamesageI love Kubuntu but..08:18
flamesageI just feel "Ubuntu" is more offical..08:18
flamesageI've reinstalled Ubuntu / Kubuntu like.. 4 times in the same day x_x  I can't make up my mind.  lol08:18
jussi01flamesage: join me in #ubuntu+1 and we can try sort whatever out if you like...08:19
flamesageok08:19
eatThisAndDieflamesage: isn't it possible to install Ubuntu and then install KDE08:21
girolamo!italiano08:21
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!08:21
flamesageyeah but..08:21
eatThisAndDieOR install Kubuntu and then install Gnome08:21
flamesageThen menus get cluttered and I just like one or the other :D08:21
eatThisAndDiewell... the option is to set which programs gets viewed in each08:22
eatThisAndDiedudes, anyone with any idea why the icons in my systray just so suddenly got bigger?08:23
flamesagewhat version / WM are you using?08:24
flamesageIt's called puberty.. lol08:24
eatThisAndDie....08:24
eatThisAndDie7.1008:24
flamesagewhat window manager?08:24
eatThisAndDiei assume the WM is kWin08:24
eatThisAndDiehow do i check anyway?08:24
flamesagehmmm dont know08:24
eatThisAndDiedont know... which WM is defult? or how to change the icon size08:25
jussi01eatThisAndDie: ctrl + esc see if kwin is running08:25
eatThisAndDieyeah it is08:25
eatThisAndDiejussi01:so now i know which WM... what now?08:25
eatThisAndDiethe config file i know is in ~/.kde/share/config08:26
jussi01eatThisAndDie: what did you do to cause it/just beore it happened?08:26
eatThisAndDiei think it was rite after i set some icons to be not visible08:27
eatThisAndDieas in you gotta click the arrow to view it.08:27
indystormhi08:27
indystormhow do I change the resolution on this thing?08:27
acme64thanks for all the help guys im goin to bed08:27
jussi01!fixresolution08:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fixresolution - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:27
jussi01!fixvideoresolution08:28
eatThisAndDieindystorm: system settings > monitor and resolution08:28
* jussi01 waits...08:28
eatThisAndDiesorry.. monitor and display08:28
jussi01!fixvideoresolution08:29
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:29
* eatThisAndDie wonders if indystorm is still there..08:29
eatThisAndDiejussi01: any ideas?08:31
eatThisAndDiei mean.. the icons in the panel can be scaled, what about in the system tray?08:31
jussi01eatThisAndDie: nope, I thought they were scaled to the panel size08:32
jussi01there is an option to put them on 2 lines iirc...08:32
eatThisAndDiejussi01: YES that will be great too. If i could find it....08:33
ActionParsniphey all08:35
* ActionParsnip waves08:36
=== yorrit is now known as t00r
familyhey guys how do i set up internet connection sharing on kubuntu?08:44
ActionParsnipfamily, let me google :)08:45
ActionParsnipfamily, you not got a router?08:46
ActionParsnipfamily,heres a good guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370 but i'd suggest getting a router, its easier and provides extra security08:46
familyi have a router but its down stairs08:49
familyand im up stairs and im going to give my xbox wireless connection08:49
ActionParsnipfamily, is it not wireless?08:50
familyaction no08:51
familymy xbox connects to my computer through a crossover cable08:51
familyi have a wireless card on this computer08:51
familyso im going to ics my eth0 to wlan so my xbox can get wireless connection08:52
ActionParsnipfamily, ok i get what you have got :)08:52
family:)08:52
familyso so nice lol and my box is nice and modded08:52
familyokay so now im off to do some reading08:52
ActionParsnipfamily, the walkthrough seems ok enogh, its fairly well documented08:52
familycool08:53
family:) thanks so much08:53
fizzz_can somebody help me with my video driver install for kubuntu ??08:54
ActionParsnipfizzz, what graphics card do you have08:55
fizzz_geforece 8400 gs08:55
fizzz_i got to the install screen and it says i need to be root to install08:55
fizzz_ERROR: nvidia-installer must be run as root08:56
ActionParsnipfizzz, run the app with sudo08:56
ActionParsnipfizzz, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx08:56
roel_anyone knows howto install kdepim-kde4??? there seems to be a problem with libgif4 libungif4g08:56
fizzz_so sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.07-pkg108:57
fizzz_??08:57
ActionParsnipfizzz, yes if you have the hing from nvidia08:57
ActionParsnipfizzz, the one in the repos is usually ok08:57
ActionParsnipfizzz, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia08:58
fizzz_ You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before08:58
fizzz_         installing.08:58
roel_@fizz_, so exit X08:59
ActionParsnipfizzz, yeah you need to swich down to command line to run it08:59
ActionParsnipfizzz, i'd use the driver in the repos. its easier to install by loads09:00
fizzz_repos  ??09:01
roel_second try: anyone knows howto install kdepim-kde4??? there seems to be a problem with libgif4 libungif4g09:01
ActionParsnipfizzz, repositories, where you download the thing from the internet09:01
ActionParsniproel_, no idea man, try www.google.com09:02
ActionParsnip!pim09:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:02
ActionParsnip!kdepim09:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdepim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:02
roel_@actionparsnip tried google extensively already09:02
roel_@ubotu will do09:02
roel_thx anyway09:03
ActionParsnipfizzz, if you follow that link i posted for you, you should be ok09:03
jussi01roel_: its currently broken afaik. and fyi kde4 support is in #kubuntu-kde4 :)09:03
roel_ah thx09:04
ActionParsnipits funny when people talk to the bot :D09:10
jussi01!thanks | ActionParsnip09:11
ubotuActionParsnip: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)09:12
jussi01and it talks to you :P09:12
ActionParsnip!freemoney | ActionParsnip09:12
ActionParsnipbah ;09:13
Sbucatonewhere is documentation channel09:13
dappermuisanyone know how to get alt+tab to work in kde 4.0.009:13
dappermuisSbucatone: ubunut-doc09:14
dappermuisSbucatone: #ubuntu-doc09:14
Sbucatonethank09:14
dappermuisnp09:14
nordseebaerguten morgen09:14
Sbucatonedappermuis: it seems kd4 eats lesss resorces ? right or not ?09:15
ActionParsnipSbucatone, apparently so (I've seen someone quote 60%)09:16
dappermuisSbucatone: Hmmm...it appears so. I only installed it last night, and im using all the window decorations, and its running really smooth09:16
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ZeBarbuhello world. Just a little question: is hardy in a 'useable' state right now?09:33
llutzit's alpha for testers09:33
ZeBarbuyes, I know09:34
ZeBarbubut is it useable (to test ;) )09:34
ZeBarbu?09:34
ZeBarbusome alpha are completly broken, and some other are quite functionnal.09:34
ActionParsnipZeBarbu, why do you want it?09:36
stdinZeBarbu: if you don't know how to use the more advanced features of apt/dpkg, then do not even think about installing hardy09:36
ZeBarbuhey, guys, I KNOW all that, I just ask if the current state is useable or completly broken09:37
stdinthen as in the right place, #ubuntu+109:37
ZeBarbuok, that's the answer I needed ;)09:38
ZeBarbuthanks09:38
stdinand don't forget to  read the topic there09:38
ZeBarbustdin: ok, the topic is very nice ;)09:39
jack_is there any way to stop konqueror/dolphin choking hard and displaying wrong values in directories with huge amounts of files?09:41
mickael_bonjour09:42
blizzzekhi09:42
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ActionParsniphey all10:10
=== mneisen|afk is now known as mneisen
sigma_1234how do you install a nfs client?10:34
jussi01!ns10:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ns - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:34
jussi01!nfs10:34
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.10:34
jussi01cant type today... sigh10:35
mohihi guyz... :)10:37
ganeshsup?10:37
mohiI have problem with pakage manager! It says: Kpackage requires the SMART Package Manager to be installed in order to function10:37
mohiwhat should I do?10:37
mohi(kubuntu kde4)10:38
ganeshwhy use KPackage?10:38
ganeshuse Adept10:38
noiesmoturned on my pc this morning and get this when trying to boot it repeats it self then just hangs (162.526738)ata.01 : cmd c8/00 : 08:00 : 2D :C9/00 : 00:00 : 00:00/F4 /TAG 0 cd3 0x0 data 4096 in10:38
ganeshbut mohi10:38
ganeshhow did you get KDE4?10:38
jussi01mohi: kde4 -> #kubuntu-kde4 :)10:38
dappermuismohi: also see the latest announcement on the kubuntu website10:42
paolitahello10:52
SajesHow do I change the layout scheme? There's a thing that popped up saying "KDE, Unix, Windows," etc. I accidentally chose the wrong one.10:57
_luke_Sajes: try running "kpersonalizer" - that is the app which pops up the first time you login10:59
Sajes_luke_: thanks.10:59
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=== darkforce__ is now known as posingaspopular
xgoonerxhello ... i need a help ...11:04
xgoonerxi'm trying to  instal Kubuntu 7.10 on my secondary slave drive11:05
xgoonerxi have WinXP on my privary drive11:05
xgoonerxafter installing and everything ... i can't boot11:05
xgoonerxit stucks on Grub11:05
jussi01xgoonerx: what is the error?11:06
xgoonerxi tried changing the booting priority by changing the drive order... still it wont boot... MBR error 1 and continously11:06
xgoonerxjussi : i'm a nubie ... i dont know anything about ubuntu ..this is my first time installing11:06
xgoonerxi made EXT3 and SWAP partition on my secondary drive11:06
xgoonerxit stucks on Grun loading ..please wait ... but my HDD doesnt blink ..11:07
xgoonerxit wont boot to ubuntu or winxp ...11:07
jussi01xgoonerx: so it doesnt give you a grub error at all?11:07
xgoonerxno11:07
jussi01xgoonerx: Im going to get the bot to give you a link to reinstalling grub, go and ollow the instructions there11:08
xgoonerxi tried searching on google... but still i cant find the solution for my problem11:08
jussi01!grub11:08
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto11:08
xgoonerxi have reisntalled grub11:08
xgoonerxi tried the sudo grub thingy11:08
xgoonerxi did this already11:09
Odd-rationaleHow do I switch between network connections?11:09
xgoonerxi did this after fixing my MBR from the winxp boot cd11:09
xgoonerxi wonder... is it because i didnt installed ubuntu on the primary drive ?11:09
jussi01xgoonerx: Im not really sure, Im sorry.11:10
xgoonerxi tried changing the hdd jumper aswell... i made my winxp drive to SLAVE .... and put the ubuntu as a master drive ...but still the same error11:10
xgoonerxany help will be appreciated ... i really want to use kubuntu now11:11
xgoonerxthx for your help jussi11:11
Agent_bobxgoonerx what's the issue/question ?11:11
xgoonerxagent : i need to install kubuntu on my secondary drive11:12
Agent_bobOdd-rationale knetworkmanager  maybe ?11:12
Agent_bobxgoonerx and ?11:12
xgoonerxi did that already ... but it is stuck on GRUB11:12
Odd-rationaleAgent_bob: I'm looking there. The solution is excaping me...11:12
Odd-rationaleRight now i'm on my neighbor's wireless. I'm trying to switch to my own.11:13
xgoonerxagent bob : would you be so kind to read my previous chat with jussi up above :) thx11:13
Agent_bobxgoonerx then the issues is with grub and not with installing ubuntu.    now. is there any number with the startup error ?11:13
xgoonerxagent : no :( that's the problem ... it just stuck right there11:13
jussi01Odd-rationale: you should be able to right click on the icon in the tray, then select a network...11:14
xgoonerxi hate to imagine if it's my hdd which is the problem :(11:14
xgoonerxagent : is it necessary for me to install kubuntu on my primary drive ? to avoid suck grub errors ?11:14
xgoonerxsuch11:15
Agent_bobno11:15
Odd-rationalejussi01: That's what I thought. But none are showing up. Perhpas because it is in a manual conf. How do I change?11:15
Agent_bobxgoonerx it may be necessary to tell grub the bios order of the devices though11:16
xgoonerxagent : is it my partition ?  i made EXT3 and SWAP on the secondary drive (slave... i set the jumper to master... it wont fix it aswell)11:16
xgoonerxagent : how can i do that ?  i tried to set the drive priority on bios ...but it wont fix this11:16
xgoonerxbios order of the device ..... but not on grub11:17
xgoonerxhow can i tell grub ?11:17
paolo_ Hi. how can I launch an application ad keep it always in evidence (if it's not resized) ?11:19
paolo_(a gui application)11:19
stdin"in evidence" ?11:20
paolo_stdin: sorry for the expression, i dunno how to translate it11:21
Agent_bobif you change the bios order of the drives you confuse the snot out of grub.   let me succently explain. bios loads when you power on the machine, then it finds it's boot device first floppy, first cdrom, first hdd,  what ever it's setup for.  and starts reading the boot disk.  if it's an hdd the MBR tell bios what file/sector to load.  when using grub that will point to the /boot/grub/stage1*11:21
stdinpaolo_: you can always ask in #kubuntu-it11:21
paolo_stdin: it means that it must be shown always11:21
sonoftheclayrpaolo_: like always on top?11:22
stdinpaolo_: right-click the title bar -> Advanced -> Always on top11:22
stdinit may be called more like "keep above others" in other locales11:22
stdindepends on the translation11:22
paolo_stdin: perfect but11:23
paolo_how can i set this when launching?11:23
paolo_(without setting it manually)11:23
Agent_bobnow if you change the bios addressing of a device then when the MBR loads and looks for the bios addressed file/sector it won't be the stage1* that it's supposed to be.   now that having been said.   go back to the link ubotu sent you and read up on grub a little more.  if you don't see the obvious solution.   boot the linux liveCD and come back here.  i'll do what i can xgoonerx11:23
Agent_bob!grub11:24
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto11:24
stdinpaolo_: look in the special application settings11:24
stdinpaolo_: should be in the same "Advanced" menu11:24
xgoonerxagent : thx alot for your explanations ! i'm at the office right now... i'm on my way home ... i hope i still can see you here later...11:25
xgoonerxthx everyone ...11:25
xgoonerxhave a great day11:25
Agent_bobfor a while. yes.11:25
xgoonerx6:25 PM here11:25
ubuntu_ok11:25
Agent_boband shalom.11:25
ubuntu_love you11:26
ubuntu_ehhehe11:26
xgoonerxmaybe i'll be back online around 811:26
xgoonerxbye11:26
ubuntu_my name is mathias11:26
ubuntu_whats your name11:26
Agent_bob!ot | ubuntu_11:27
ubotuubuntu_: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!11:27
ubuntu_tahnks11:27
ubuntu_thanks11:27
girolamo!italiano11:28
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:28
paolo_stdin: thnks11:30
Odd-rationaleHow do I set knetworkmanager to not use a manual configuration?11:31
SajesQuestion. I want to make a panel devoted to be like a quicklaunch bar on my middle-left side of the monitor. Whenever I right click it after making it to configure it, it tries to configure my main panel instead of the new one. I'm on gutsy gibbon and kde 3.511:33
dhqi have ntfs partiton on my system how do i resize it so as to make space for my ext311:34
Sajesdhq: qparted gparted, fdisk or cfdisk.11:34
dhqSajes: qtpated errors11:35
Sajesdhq: if it contains windows on it, be sure to defrag before resizing.11:35
Agent_bobturn off pagefile and defrag11:36
Agent_bobyou can turn it back on afterwards11:36
SajesSo anyone got any ideas why it tries to configure the wrong panel?11:37
dhqhow is kde4 anyone tried it11:38
Agent_bobSajes don't know your version.   but try selecting the pannel you want to config from within the configurator11:38
SajesAgent_bob: there's no option to do that.11:40
Agent_bobSajes there was also a bug in kde.  you may have to logout and back in after making the panel befor it will work correctly11:40
SajesAgent_bob: thanks, I'll try that.11:40
Agent_bobSajes the otpion is on one of the tabs    not all of them.11:41
SajesAgent_bob: that worked. Thanks :)11:41
Agent_bobbut it affects all of them.11:41
Agent_bobwelcome.11:41
jussi01dhq: kde4 -> #kubuntu-kde4 :)11:41
Agent_bobhmmm this is not right.   if i run startkde all it does is closes my konsole11:47
Agent_bobLTS that ^11:47
Agent_bobhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d284c1e2511:50
Agent_bobthere's why ^   so i supose that kwin or startkde is coded to not start in a window ?11:51
Agent_boband startkde is definitely coded to not start from a console    so how is one supposed to start kde with out using a dm ?11:52
GideanHi all...11:59
Gideancan't seem to find a clear answer using google: how do I run a .py script from the CL?12:00
funcrushLocation of cursor in konsole is odd. How can I fix it? (you can see that http://cfs5.tistory.com/upload_control/download.blog?fhandle=YmxvZzU3NzA1QGZzNS50aXN0b3J5LmNvbTovYXR0YWNoLzAvMDUwMDAwMDAwMDAwLnBuZw==)12:00
GideanPlease.12:00
Agent_bobgibean /path/to/script.py   ?12:01
Agent_bobor python /path/to/script.py    maybe even.12:01
Gideanif I'm in the directory, do I have to include the path?12:01
Agent_bobuse   ./12:02
GideanThought it was Python *.py12:02
GideanAgent: I did and I got the * is a directory (it isn't)12:02
Agent_boblowercase.    unless you have a Python executable in your path.     all things are case sensitive12:02
GideanAhh..indeed. It's late and I may have been using the uppercase...12:03
Gideanbrb12:03
GideanLOL...using capital P the whole time.12:05
GideanTime to get some sleep...12:05
GideanThanks a bunch, Agent_bob...12:05
Gideancheers and g'night....12:05
dhqSajes: i just finished defragmenting12:06
dhqSajes: now12:06
albatross_I've made a profile with the help of kiosktool, but now that's stopped working for whatever reason. I need to change the file associations for PDF, since users cant open them from the desktop. How do I go about doing that?12:08
albatross_Using Kubuntu 7.0412:08
Sajesdhq: Try resizing it with gparted.12:08
Agent_bobmake sure it's noy mounted12:09
ct529hi everybody12:11
ct529I would like to synchornise two directories between 2 computers so that the content of the directories is merged (at file level) every time I click a button12:12
ct529is that possible on 7.10?12:12
llutzct529: use rsync (button made with kommander-script maybe)12:13
shampooor a cronjob maybe (no button anymore :D)12:14
shampooct529: for syncronizing i use rsync12:16
ct529llutz: shampoo thanks. does it need one of the directory to be empty or may I start with 2 full directory and the software opeartes a merge?12:17
Agent_bobisn't there also some "kitchensync" thingy ?12:17
ct529Agent_bob: kitchensync?12:17
llutzct529: they don't need to be empty12:17
Agent_bob!info kitchensync12:18
ubotukitchensync: Synchronization framework. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.7enterprise20070926-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 328 kB, installed size 1100 kB12:18
Agent_bob!info ksync12:18
ubotuPackage ksync does not exist in gutsy12:18
Agent_bob!info ksync dapper12:18
ubotuksync: KDE Sync. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 61 kB, installed size 240 kB12:18
Agent_bobthey discontinued that one.12:19
llutza rsync gui = grsync, but gtk :((12:20
Agent_bobdon't like gnome tool kit ?12:20
llutzwould i use Kubuntu if i like that much? ;)12:21
Agent_bobllutz idk many do.12:21
ct529llutz: is there any kde gui interface?12:21
llutzct529: i don't know any12:21
girolamo!italiano12:21
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:21
mauhi, i have no sound, is there a wiki page about this? don't want do bother you with all my noob questions12:21
* ct529 installin grsync12:22
llutz"gnome is ugly!" imho, sry </ot>12:22
ct529mau: audio card?12:22
bazhang!sound | mau12:22
ubotumau: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP312:22
funcrushI can't take a screenshot with "Print Screen" key in KDE4. anyone can help me?12:23
Odd-rationaleWhen I try to plug in my ext HDD, I get this: hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000. How do I fix this? Thanks!12:23
jussi01funcrush: kde4 -> #kubuntu-kde4 :)12:24
ct529llutz: not bad grsync12:24
Odd-rationaleI can mount it from the command line, though12:24
funcrushjussi01: Thank you :)12:25
mau!sound12:25
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP312:25
ct529llutz: what about using a p2p versioning tool like git or mergury?12:25
Agent_bobllutz just a thought on that though.  just because gnome is ugly, has nothing to do with whether one uses a gtk app or not.   ends can justify the means.12:25
llutzct529: i never used, sry12:25
llutzAgent_bob: i  haven't seen a "nice" gtk-Gui during the last 12 yrs using linux-systems. That's just  _my_ personal opinion12:27
Agent_bob:)12:27
voonteIs this (http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/) the guide read to get into packaging in kubuntu?12:27
Odd-rationalebrb12:28
ibouhi12:29
mausound is working now, thx12:29
ibouhow to install flash on konqueror ?12:29
Agent_bob!contribute | voonte this page is all i know.12:30
ubotuvoonte this page is all i know.: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate12:30
Agent_bob!flash | ibou12:30
ubotuibou: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash12:30
ubotuThe Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.12:30
mauanother question: in windows i can configure some actions with clicking in the corner of my touchpad. is this possible with kubuntu?12:31
ibouthanks12:31
voonteAgent_bob: thanks, I'll check that page out.12:31
ibou!Restricted12:34
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:34
jussi01!touchpad | mau12:37
ubotumau: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad12:37
chakie_workis there any news regarding when flash might work again in gutsy?12:38
chakie_workit's been non-working now for weeks and it gets a little bit annoying12:38
chakie_workespecially the "crash handlers" that konqueror spits at every page that contains flash12:39
dwhitemorning ...12:41
dwhiteI added kde4 to my kubuntu 7.10 machine to test it.  Now I want to remove it and wait for 4.1.  Is there a recommended safe way to remove it and clear the kde4 apps out of my menu?  Is it as easy as apt-get remove kde4?12:41
jussi01chakie_work: there is a workaround i you really want12:41
jussi01dwhite: kde4 -> #kubuntu-kde4 :)12:41
chakie_workjussi01: if i don't totally anal probe my system in the process i'd be happy to try it12:41
dwhitethanks12:42
g2g591dwhite: sudo apt-get purge whateverkde4packagesgotpulledin12:42
jussi01!flash | chakie_work12:42
ubotuchakie_work: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash12:42
ubotuThe Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.12:42
dwhitethks g2g59112:42
ct529I had a go with rsync, but the result is that only one of the directory get synchronised12:42
jussi01!rsync12:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rsync - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:43
* ct529 going for lunch12:45
chakie_workjussi01: ok, that forum thread was a mess. i'll stick with the mac for web browsing for now12:47
chakie_workjussi01: thanks for the help12:47
jussi01chakie_work: ok :)12:48
chakie_workslightly annoying though12:49
jussi01chakie_work: understand completely :(12:49
habdelhi there, libqt4-debug doesn't match the current libqt package ! so there is no way to install it12:49
chakie_workjussi01: of course the blame rests solely on the hands of adobe12:49
habdelwhere shall I report this bug ?12:51
Hunkennallewhats the major differances between kubuntu, debian and gentoo?12:54
stdinHunkennalle: #kubuntu-offtopic is a better place to ask, not here12:54
Hunkennalleok12:54
Agent_bobdefaults  debian/*buntu   but packaging system */gentoo12:54
Agent_bob!bug | habdel12:57
ubotuhabdel: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots12:57
* habdel solved the problem, it was in synaptic's preferences to install old packages than the new ones13:02
Agent_bobhmmm i can't seem to make a dir with a newline in the name ???13:05
Agent_bobmkdir "`echo -e '\tthis is a dir \n with newline + name ; \n'`"13:06
Agent_bobthen ls.   no newline only unknown chars13:06
PiciWhy would you want a directory with a newline in it?13:07
Agent_bobPici why not ?13:08
Agent_bobfor that matter why with spaces or \ ???13:08
muesli_hey guys, i'm trying to update my system with apt-get, but somehow the status file seems broken from a previous (broken) update13:10
muesli_i currently get "E: read, still have 1 to read but none left" at the end of every apt-get update13:10
muesli_what can i do to resolve it?13:10
Agent_bobdpkg --configure -a13:11
angasulekopete in kubuntu gutsy doesn't have jingle support compiled in, I gather?13:11
Agent_bobapt-get install -f13:11
muesli_Agent_bob: nope, that's when apt-get install broke13:12
muesli_Agent_bob: the apt-get install finished fine, but left with a somewhat broken /var/lib/dpkg/status file13:12
Agent_bobmuesli_ what does   sudo dpkg --configure -a    return ?13:13
muesli_Agent_bob: just finishes, no output13:13
Agent_boband the other one ?13:13
muesli_status code equals 9 too13:13
muesli_the other one?13:13
muesli_apt-get update?13:13
Agent_bobsudo apt-get install -f13:14
muesli_"E: read, still have 1 to read but none left"13:14
muesli_0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.13:14
Agent_bobsudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade13:15
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muesli_Agent_bob: yeah, i tried that as well already :(13:15
Agent_bobthat doesn't tell me it's output ?13:16
muesli_heh sorry, same as for apt-get install -f13:16
Agent_bobthen either A. you have built a broken package and installed it.   B. you have non-ubuntu repos in your sources.list   C. you found a bug.13:17
muesli_i go for C ;-)13:17
muesli_it's basically a fresh gutsy install13:18
Agent_bob!bug13:18
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots13:18
Agent_bobmuesli_    dpkg -l | grep -v ii        pastebin that for me13:19
lavidso, when i try to start kde4 i get "Could not start kdeinit4. Check your installation." I think it's due to constantly installing bleeding edge versions of kde4 without any luck and maybe the un-installation didn't quite work. Any thoughts?13:19
muesli_Agent_bob: sorry, thanks for all your help, but i gotta run now, i'll be back in 30 minutes. thanks again13:19
Agent_bobumm hmm.13:20
muesli_Agent_bob: in the end, i _should_ be able to figure it out myself even. i just wondered if anyone just knew the solution13:21
muesli_my next try now would be updating to some other repository13:21
muesli_and then go back13:21
muesli_to make sure it's redownloading all the packages13:21
Agent_bobmuesli_    dpkg -l | grep -v ii    <<<13:21
Agent_bobif something has a bad status    that should show it.13:22
Agent_bobmuesli_    dpkg -l | grep -v ' ii '     < more percise13:22
Agent_bobmuesli_    dpkg -l | grep -v 'ii '     < more percise13:23
Agent_bobooops   ;/13:23
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Agent_bobi see we are not going to get a look at his package status13:29
Agent_boboh well.13:29
Agent_bobi'm went.    gooday fellas13:30
DownixOk, flash doesn't work anymore, what the heck??13:38
sebastian^good morning folks13:38
ubuntu_hello... im trying to install kubuntu, but i cant :(13:40
ubuntu_Can someone help me13:41
ubuntu_Sveiki visiem13:41
selckinonly if you explain the problem13:41
ubuntu_i cannot install kubuntu :(13:41
toranganhi13:41
selckinubuntu_: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html read13:42
ubuntu_maybe disc is damaged or what... it seem that everything ok13:42
Downixubuntu_: Well, what is it not doing, exactly?13:42
toranganI tried to switch XUbuntu to KUbuntu by installing kubuntu-desktop but I still get the Xfce WM. What did I miss? :-)13:42
ubuntu_it shows that install has finished, but when I restart PC it is not work13:42
xgoonerxhey guys ... i need a help ..13:43
xgoonerxi've installed kubuntu 7.10 on my secondary drive13:43
ubuntu_I like linux better than windows :)13:43
xgoonerxbut my computer always boot to winxp ...13:43
xgoonerxwhen i switch the boot drive prioty to the secondary drive ... it stucks on Grub loading13:44
ubuntu_my PC have 2 hdd, and 2 OS, but PC open just second drive why?13:44
Downixubuntu_ what was on the disk before you installed it?13:45
Downixxgoonerx: Did you install Grub to the primary drive to enable dual-booting?13:45
xgoonerxdownix : i made the EXT3 and SWAP partition on the secondary drive13:45
ubuntu_on 2nd drive...? there was winxp13:46
x_zeusshello, has anyone here tried kubuntu with kde 4, the live cd?13:46
xgoonerxmy primary drive contains WinXp ... i didnt installed kubuntu on the primary drive13:46
ubuntu_now i'm in linux with CD ;(13:47
xgoonerxi can't boot to ubuntu ..it stucks on Grub loading ...the hdd doesnt blink ..and it doesnt show any error notification13:47
Downixxgoonerx: Unless you put a boot loader onto the MBR of the first drive, you will not be able to boot from the second.13:47
Downixxgoonerx: Ok, see, that told me a lot.  Now, which drive is Grub thinking it's loading from?13:47
xgoonerxdownix : please help me .. how do i solve this13:47
Downixxgoonerx: Still have your Ubuntu CD?13:48
ubuntu_where I can download free v of linux?13:48
xgoonerxyes... but i'm on xp right now13:48
Downixubuntu_:  http://www.kubuntu.com http://www.fedoraproject.com http://www.debian.org http://www.linux.com13:48
ubuntu_Downix thank you wery much :)13:49
Downixxgoonerx: Well, XP can't do you any good in this situation, sad to say.13:49
Downixxgoonerx: Unless you install an ext2 driver13:49
xgoonerxdownix ...wait a min .. i will use my live cd ..13:49
ubuntu_Downix ... but which v is better?13:49
Downixubuntu_: Well, I prefer the first one, personally.13:49
xgoonerxdownix : what do u mean ? u suggest me to make a new partition and install kubuntu on that ext2 drive ?13:49
Downixxgoonerx: No, I was just going to suggest looking at your grub setup menu for root partition to see if that was set properly.13:50
xgoonerxdownix : i tried the sudo grub thingy ... would u hold on a sec.. i will reboot with my ubuntu live cd13:51
xgoonerxi did tried installing grub .. but that didnt fixed13:51
xgoonerxi cant even boot to win.. i had to fixmbr13:52
Downixwell, fixmbr just erased grub13:52
DownixMaybe you should try grub-on-floppy?13:52
DownixI've used that a few times13:52
xgoonerxdownix : do u think i have to make a partition on the primary drive (same drive with winxp) and reinstall kubuntu ?13:52
DownixNah, I've done two drives dozens of times13:53
Downixit's just in getting the roots set up right13:53
xgoonerxok downix ... brb ..i'll be right here on live cd13:53
xgoonerxc ya13:53
DownixI've been doing this for 13 years now, so it's nothing new to me.13:53
Downixko13:53
ubuntu_Im installing ubuntu 2nd time13:54
ubuntu_I hope, it will work :)13:54
Downixubuntu_: you do know that there are some slight differences between kubuntu and ubuntu right?13:55
ubuntu_here is someone from LV?13:55
ubuntu_Downix ... I know...13:56
ubuntu_maybe13:56
Pici!flavors13:57
ubotu!GTK and !Qt are !GUI toolkits (i.e. software libraries that draw buttons, textboxes, etc). !GNOME, !KDE, !Xfce and friends are "!desktop environments", which build on top of such libraries to provide a "consistent" desktop experience. !Kubuntu and !Xubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with KDE and Xfce (respectively) installed as default, instead of GNOME. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu13:57
tekstacyhow do I extract a password-protected .rar?14:01
tekstacyAnd can I do it without the password?14:02
tekstacyI don't see a place in ark to enter one14:02
ciaconhi folks - I have problems getting my Prism Wlan working - who could give me a "helping hand"?14:06
krokodilciacon : Could you tell us more ?14:07
mauquestion: amarok is building my collection (about 10k files). how long will it take?14:07
krokodilmau : The necessary time ;-)14:07
maudidn't expect that^^ the problem is that after ~3 hours im at 33%, but it's over wlan...14:08
ciaconkrokodil: lemme login on this laptop to the irc14:08
xgoonerxdownix you still there? sorry i wasnt able to go online with kopete... a bit confusing14:09
Drk_GuyGuys14:09
Drk_GuyI have a lil problem14:09
xgoonerxdownix : i'm on live cd now14:09
Drk_GuyKubuntu was installing just like normal14:09
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Drk_GuyBut it started installing some lang packs14:10
Drk_GuyThen i cancelled the langpacks installation and nothing happenned14:10
kermit_krokodil: what info can I supply you with, about this wlan??14:10
Drk_GuyErrrr.........14:10
Drk_GuyThe install dialog just went out14:10
Drk_GuyAnd the screen flickered14:10
Drk_GuySeems like it reacted14:11
Drk_Guysorry14:11
krokodilkermit_ :what's the problem ? what append ?14:11
xgoonerxdownix you there ?14:11
kermit_krokodil: I can't use the standard kubntu tool to setup my wlan14:12
Downixyup14:13
Downixsoryr, got into work14:13
kermit_krokodil: lspci --> 00:0b.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation ISL3886 [Prism Javelin/Prism Xbow] (rev 01)14:13
Downixpesky thing14:13
xgoonerxhey man .. how can i fix my prob :(14:13
sjckanyone here can read russian signs and is willing to help me?14:13
xgoonerxno prob ... it's ok :) thx for helping14:13
DownixWell, do you see your linux-installed HD?14:13
xgoonerxyes14:13
xgoonerxbut i cant open the fat32 files here on live cd though14:13
DownixDid you make a /boot drive, or use it as just one drive?14:14
krokodilkermit_ : Do u mean no acces to internet or no network at all ?14:14
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Downixfat32?14:14
xgoonerxow you mean the ext3 drive14:14
Downixxgoonerx: no, we need the ext2 Linux drives14:14
Downixext2/3, right14:14
xgoonerxyes... i can see14:14
kermit_krokodil: can't even select a network14:14
xgoonerxi installed as it is ... just like the live cd told me14:14
Downixxgoonerx: open up the drive that had /boot on it14:15
xgoonerxMount To =  /14:15
Downixxgoonerx: under grub's configuration file it should tell you which drive it's trying to mount as /14:15
xgoonerxdownix : i cant open that drive !14:16
xgoonerxha-storage-fix mount refused14:16
xgoonerxuid 99914:16
xgoonerxi cant open the other drives aswell (fat32, ntfs)14:16
Downixxgoonerx: says that they're already mounted most likely14:17
krokodilKermit : It seems that you need to install XP drivers via ndiswrapper14:18
xgoonerxDownix : i'm a newbie on linux ..this is my first time installing ubuntu ... i'm so desperate to use ubuntu ... i dont want to use winxp anymore14:18
krokodilkermit : http://www.ralinktech.com.tw/data/2004_0505_IS_RT2460_WPA_Drv2.1.0.1.zip14:18
krokodilkermit you can see the topic (french !) http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=18040814:19
xgoonerxDownix : when i boot my pc .. it goes to winxp ..when i set my secondary drive as the first drive on bios ... it stucks on Grub14:19
xgoonerxnetsplit ?14:21
jussi01!netsplit14:22
ubotunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit14:22
Downixman I love netsplits in the morning14:23
Downixxgoonerx: Sounds like it's mixed up on root, that's all14:24
xgoonerxdownix : it's 21:24 PM here14:24
Downix9:24 here14:24
xgoonerxGMT +7 ?14:25
Downixyup14:25
xgoonerxmixed up on the root? how can i fix this14:25
xgoonerxi'm in indonesia14:25
DownixI told you earlier14:25
Downixlook at the grub boot menu14:25
xgoonerxshould i use terminal ?14:26
edgardo?14:26
Drk_Guy...14:26
Drk_GuyThis is strange14:26
xgoonerxi cant open any drive with dolphin14:26
Drk_GuyThe installer is not reacting14:26
Downixthat itself is odd14:26
Drk_GuyI mean, it is frozen after it has copied all files14:26
Drk_GuyIt got locked-up writing grub14:27
edgardoalguno habla castellano14:27
edgardo?14:27
FrauHansenbtw. grub... is there another way to find out what kernels are installed exept looking at the "debian automatic kernel list" in the menu.lst?14:27
Drk_GuyI have myself managed to install it, but no menu.lst present14:27
Drk_GuyIs that normal?14:28
FrauHanseni think not14:28
Drk_GuyHow can i solve it?14:28
FrauHansendid you get a freeze while installing?14:28
Drk_GuyYep14:28
FrauHansenwell you could try to reinstall14:28
xgoonerxDownix : would you be so kind to show me where can i see the grub root menu ?14:28
xgoonerxdownix : newbie here :(14:28
Drk_GuyIt was installing langpacks, then it frozen, i waited 5 mins and it unlocked14:29
Drk_GuyBut then it locked up installing grub14:29
user13quit14:29
Drk_GuyWhy?14:29
user13sorry...14:29
Drk_GuyCant, the window is inactive14:29
ActionParsnipholla peeps14:29
Drk_GuyAnd i cant force it to close14:29
user13#quit14:30
ActionParsnipDrk_Guy, force what to close?14:30
FrauHansenDrk_Guy: sudo grub-install /dev/hda <- replace that path with the one that suits for you14:30
Drk_GuyI know14:31
xgoonerxdownix : any tutorials ?14:31
Drk_GuyBut the isntaller seems to be working14:31
Drk_GuyBcoz now i see the menu.lst14:31
FrauHansenalright then14:31
xgoonerxhow can i go to the grub root ?14:32
xgoonerxshall i use the terminal ?14:32
Downixxgoonerx: Familiar with VI editing?14:32
FrauHansenwhat do you mean by "the grub root"?14:32
xgoonerxdownix : not at all, sorry14:32
Downixthen no, terminal will do you no good14:32
xgoonerxfrau : i can't boot to ubuntu ... it got stuck on grub14:33
FrauHansenany error message?14:33
Drk_GuyNo14:33
ubuntu_now my winxp doesnt work :(14:33
Drk_GuyInstaller is just locked up14:33
ActionParsnipDownix, could always boot to live cd and modify the file14:33
Drk_GuyBut i think it is creatign files14:33
krokodilDoes anyone try to make a system hot backup with dd, i've try it and it works but i 'd like to know if you have seen some problems14:34
xgoonerxit always boot to windows.... when i change the boot priority to my secondary drive ... it stucks on grub ...no error notification14:34
Drk_GuyAnyway, i can see it's not done because my accoutn's default files arent created14:34
DownixActionParsnip: that's what I was trying to have him do.14:34
ubuntu_i cannot go in linux... that stops on grub loading14:34
xgoonerxubuntu : i got the same problem14:34
ubuntu_how to get in linux?14:35
xgoonerxbut i can still boot to windows14:35
ActionParsnipubuntu_, mount your drive once you have booted to the live cd and edit the file14:35
ubuntu_how to mount the hdd?14:35
ActionParsnip!mount | ubuntu_14:35
ubotuubuntu_: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter14:35
steinerhippohi @all, does anybody know, how to make a icon to a mime type persistent? i tried it in kcontrol and with right click->properties, with both ways the icon (application/pdf mime typ) only is set till reboot14:35
ActionParsnipubuntu_, also if you google you'll see too14:36
xgoonerxaction : i have just installed kubuntu on my secondary drive ... my pc wont boot to ubuntu ..any idea? it stops on grub14:36
ActionParsnipubuntu_, I pm'd you man14:36
ActionParsnipxgoonerx, boot to live cd and read the grub file (you could do us a pastebin too)14:37
FrauHansengrub goes by the menu.lst in the folder /boot/grub   in this file there is a list of operating systems and the path where their reside. this list has to be correct otherwise grub doesnt know what to boot14:37
ubuntu_ActionParsnip how to mount hdd?14:38
ubuntu_there is no action like that14:38
xgoonerxthis is what i did14:39
xgoonerxubuntu@ubuntu:/media$ sudo suroot@ubuntu:/media# nano/media/hdb3/boot/grub/menu.lstbash: nano/media/hdb3/boot/grub/menu.lst: No such file or directoryroot@ubuntu:/media#14:39
ActionParsnipubuntu_, sudo mkdir /mnt/foldera; sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt/foldera (is one example)14:40
ActionParsnipubuntu_, do some googling theres a million websites on it14:40
FaiDillinGerwhats up14:40
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Kaffeejunkyhi people14:40
squid0hello14:40
Kaffeejunkywhat are u doing14:40
Drk_Guy...14:40
Drk_GuyI know FrauHansen14:41
Kaffeejunkywho is frau hansen14:41
steinerhippohi @all, does anybody know, how to make a icon to a mime type persistent? i tried it in kcontrol and with right click->properties, with both ways the icon (application/pdf mime typ) only is set till reboot, can nobdy help me?14:41
Drk_GuyBut the thing is, the account's main files arent installed14:41
xgoonerxDownix : i'm on the root/grub now ... what should i do ?14:41
ubuntu_Now I don't have windows and linux ;(14:41
Kaffeejunkyhi steinerippo14:41
Kaffeejunkyare u german14:41
steinerhippoyes14:41
Kaffeejunkyi am too14:41
ActionParsnipubuntu_, if you edit the grub.conf you will but you need to get the drive mounted.14:42
steinerhippobut if you want german support, join kubuntu-de14:42
ActionParsnipubuntu_, once its mounted you can edit it so that you can boot14:42
ubuntu_okey im now search in google14:42
Kaffeejunkyok, this is my first time i chat in kubuntu14:42
Downixxgoonerx: Alright, can you use a pastebin for what the file says?14:43
steinerhippoKaffejunky, i'm sometimes here, nice support, and i'm happy, that also i can help other people a bit14:43
ubuntu_only root can do that ActionParsnip14:43
Kaffeejunkyok14:43
ActionParsnipubuntu_, do what?14:43
ubuntu_mount: only root can do that :( ActionParsnip14:44
ActionParsnipsudo (?)14:44
ActionParsnipsudo mount ....14:44
ActionParsnipubuntu_, thats all that means. If you ever get that, whack sudo infront of it (if its a CLI command)14:44
Kaffeejunkyhi daniela14:44
ubuntu_ActionParsnip ok that works :)14:44
ActionParsnipubuntu_, ok so you have the drive mounted?14:45
ubuntu_Usage: mount -V                 : print version14:45
ubuntu_       mount -h                 : print this help14:45
ubuntu_       mount                    : list mounted filesystems14:45
ubuntu_       mount -l                 : idem, including volume labels14:45
ubuntu_So far the informational part. Next the mounting.14:45
ubuntu_The command is `mount [-t fstype] something somewhere'.14:45
ubuntu_Details found in /etc/fstab may be omitted.14:45
ActionParsnip!paste | ubuntu_14:45
ubotuubuntu_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)14:45
ubuntu_       mount -a [-t|-O] ...     : mount all stuff from /etc/fstab14:46
ubuntu_       mount device             : mount device at the known place14:46
ubuntu_       mount directory          : mount known device here14:46
ubuntu_       mount -t type dev dir    : ordinary mount command14:46
ActionParsnipubuntu_, STOP!!14:46
ubuntu_Note that one does not really mount a device, one mounts14:46
ubuntu_a filesystem (of the given type) found on the device.14:46
ubuntu_One can also mount an already visible directory tree elsewhere:14:46
ubuntu_       mount --bind olddir newdir14:46
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ubuntu_or move a subtree:14:46
ubuntu_       mount --move olddir newdir14:46
ubuntu_A device can be given by name, say /dev/hda1 or /dev/cdrom,14:46
ubuntu_or by label, using  -L label  or by uuid, using  -U uuid .14:46
ubuntu_Other options: [-nfFrsvw] [-o options] [-p passwdfd].14:46
ubuntu_For many more details, say  man 8 mount .14:46
ubuntu_sorry about that.... whats next?14:46
ubuntu_ok14:46
ActionParsnipdont do that it scrolls like crazy14:47
ubuntu_ActionParsnip sorry man14:47
ActionParsnipubuntu_, fdisk -l (we need to know which partition your ubuntu is on)14:47
Kaffeejunkydaniela want to chat with me14:47
Kaffeejunky??14:47
ubuntu_on which hdd? I got 2...14:48
ActionParsnipubuntu_, fdisk will show both14:48
ActionParsnip!paste | ubuntu_14:48
ubotuubuntu_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)14:48
ActionParsnipubuntu_, put the output in there then paste the http link14:49
Downixthis is fustrating, nothing will change my screen resolution14:49
DownixI migrate to a big monitor, text now 1" high!14:49
ubuntu_sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda  ActionParsnip14:50
ubuntu_?14:50
ben__when the instructions for installing kde4 say "run /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde in the Xerphyr xterm", how do i do that?14:50
ActionParsnipubuntu_, no just fdisk -l14:50
ActionParsnipDownix, tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?14:50
ubuntu_okey14:50
ben__i have already installed kde4, and am running kde4 from the login manager14:50
ubuntu_ActionParsnip but nothing happens...14:51
DownixActionParsnip: Yup.  It's not a big deal, I'll just sit further back14:51
xpticalwhat is the best way to wipe a hard drive before I sell a PC?14:51
Downixxptical: Format it with some encrypted filesystem with no OS support.14:52
xgoonerxDownix : it's empty ?!!!14:52
Downixxgoonerx: Would explain a lot there14:52
ubuntu_ActionParsnip console shows only 1 hdd of two... :(14:52
xpticalformat and re-write with random a few times?14:52
ActionParsnipubuntu_, not sure how you switch. I'd look on google14:53
ActionParsnipubuntu_, run fdisk interactively14:53
xgoonerx GNU nano 2.0.6       File: /media/hdb3/boot/grub/menu.lst14:53
xgoonerxthats it ..it's empty ..14:54
ActionParsnipcan someone take over its time for me to head home now14:54
xgoonerxit has a New File option there... what should i do Downix14:54
ActionParsnippeace out brethrynss14:54
steinerhippohi @all, does anybody know, how to make a icon to a mime type persistent? i tried it in kcontrol and with right click->properties, with both ways the icon (application/pdf mime typ) only is set till reboot, can nobody help me?14:55
ubuntu_ActionParsnip in which map I can see that hdd?14:55
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ubuntu_ActionParsnip something works...14:56
ubuntu_who can help me mount hdd?14:58
xgoonerxmy grub menu.lst is empty .... is that the reason why i cant boot to ubuntu ?14:59
ubuntu_my 2nd hdd didnt show anywhere? why?14:59
ubuntu_when u use live cd, Pc use hdd?15:00
Wizardehlo15:00
Wizardare kde4 packages available for kubuntu/ppc ?15:00
Hunkennallehow do i know my root password?15:01
Tm_THunkennalle: there isn't one15:01
Tm_T!sudo | Hunkennalle15:02
ubotuHunkennalle: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.15:02
Downixxgoonerx: Very likely.  Is the file editable as/is or do you need to sudo it?15:02
steinerhippoHunkennalle: but if you are root and give him one, then he has one, but that's not the common way i think15:02
Hunkennallebut when im trying to instal: http://java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp?locale=en&host=java.com&intcmp=1383 it asks me for my root password15:02
ubuntu_how to mount hdd?15:02
Tm_THunkennalle: why do you install java from there?15:02
Tm_T!mount | ubuntu_15:03
ubotuubuntu_: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter15:03
Tm_T!java | Hunkennalle15:03
ubotuHunkennalle: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.15:03
Hunkennallei was on an webbsite and a box told me to uppdate and took me there15:03
xgoonerxdownix : i think the file is editable ..since i'ts empty ... it got menu under it ..15:03
xgoonerxlook15:04
xgoonerxubuntu@ubuntu:/media$ ls /media/hdb3/ls: /media/hdb3/: No such file or directory15:04
xgoonerxthats the partition i installed ubuntu15:04
xgoonerxempty ?15:04
ubuntu_Tm_t mount: mount point /mnt/hd does not exist15:05
Tm_Tubuntu_: you need to create the mountpoint first15:05
dhqi have a camera on my laptop please tell me how to get it working on linux15:05
ubuntu_Tm_t but how?15:06
Downixxgoonerx: hdb3?  ok, something is not set up right15:06
Tm_Tubuntu_: "sudo mkdir /mnt/hd1" for example15:06
ubuntu_Tm_t thanks15:06
Tm_T!tab | ubuntu_15:07
ubotuubuntu_: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.15:07
xgoonerxdownix : hdb3 is the EXT3 partition15:07
ubuntu_Tm_T: okey, that really helps :)15:07
ubuntu_Tm_T: mount: special device /dev/hda* does not exist15:08
ubuntu_so many problems :(15:09
Downixxgoonerx: If I had more time I could walk you through this, but it's getting hectic at work.15:10
ubuntu_Downix: i can mount hdd from lice vd?15:10
Downixxgoonerx: since it is a fresh install, why not just re-install it, and make a boot-floppy rather than change the booting-drive?15:10
ubuntu_Downix: i can mount hdd from lice cd?15:10
xgoonerxdownix : ok sir... no problem ...15:10
ubuntu_*live cd15:11
xgoonerxdownix : i dont have a floppy drive on my pc :(15:11
Downixubuntu_: Yes, I do it all of the time for maintenance purposes15:11
articpenguin3800will konversation be ported to kde415:11
Downixxgoonerx: Well that's just silly.  The floppy remains the single most solid and proven booting method for emergencies.15:11
zoli2kHi. Is the shortcut bug in KDE4 already fixed?15:12
paolo_hi, how can I open an application and set it "keep above others"  from command line?15:12
Downixxgoonerx: And this is from the guy that had to build his own floppy controller once when his motherboards southbridge fried15:12
ubuntu_Downix: why linux deleted all my data from winxp hdd?15:12
articpenguin3800i dont have a floppy ethier =(15:12
xgoonerxdownix : yea... since the USB drive era... floppy seems to be neglected15:12
Downixubuntu_: because you told it to15:12
SSJ_GZzoli2k: There are at least two (probably three) separate bugs that cause shortcut breakage.15:12
ubuntu_Downix:  sh** all my 170 GB data lost :O15:13
articpenguin3800one thing i dont get is why is there a floppy ide controller on my motherboard if i dont have the slot for a floppy?15:13
Downixubuntu_: you did proper backups as Winxp tells you to, right?15:13
ubuntu_Downix: maybe...15:13
xgoonerxvery rare to find floppy disks nowadays (in indonesia)15:14
Downixarticpenguin3800: motherboards can fit into a wide variety of cases15:14
Downixok ok, getting sidetracked, need to work15:14
articpenguin3800even OEM computers?15:14
Downixhave 120 sites to get going15:14
ubuntu_Downix: but why on startup linux grub loading sends error?15:14
Downixarticpenguin3800: Yes, OEM's do not, as a general rule, make their own motherboards15:14
articpenguin3800ubuntu_: what error message15:14
ubuntu_error sector 1715:14
articpenguin3800ubuntu_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44294515:15
ubuntu_articpenguin3800:  error sector 1715:15
aleksanterihow am i supposed to install libpoppler1{,-qt4} on gutsy ?15:15
zoli2kSSJ_GZ: Some of them already patched by the KDE devs. But I am not sure there are included in the recent packages.15:15
articpenguin3800ubuntu_: how old is your computer15:15
SSJ_GZzoli2k: Ah, OK.15:16
ubuntu_articpenguin3800: alll new, but processor older than 2 years... 2.4 ghz15:16
articpenguin3800i got grub error 17 on my old pentium 933Mhz15:17
articpenguin3800that was because i had ubuntu on a partition later than the 1024 cylinder limit15:17
ubuntu_articpenguin3800:  i will now try...15:17
articpenguin3800dosent happen to me on my new rig though. Sempron 3800+15:17
indystormso I am using kopete logged into aim and my buddy list does not show up- any idea why?15:18
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indystormand also how do I get a channel list on Konversation?15:21
aantipopindystorm: /list ?15:21
indystormdude- awesome thanks--- any idea about the aim buddy list not refreshing?15:22
aantipopindystorm: on kopete-kde4 ?15:23
xgoonerxdownix : i've succeded to enter into my hdb3 directory through research (google ofcourse).... what do u want me to do:  bin   cdrom  etc   initrd      lib         media  opt   root  srv  tmp  varboot  dev    home  initrd.img  lost+found  mnt    proc  sbin  sys  usr  vmlinuz15:24
indystormyes15:24
indystormKubuntu15:24
indystormI can logon but I get no buddy list- it's blank15:24
aantipopindystorm: sorry, i cant add any protocols15:24
xgoonerxroot@ubuntu:/media# sudo suroot@ubuntu:/media# mkdir /media/hdb3root@ubuntu:/media# chmod 775 /media/hdb3/ -Rroot@ubuntu:/media# mount /dev/hdb3 /media/hdb3root@ubuntu:/media# ls /media/hdb3/bin   cdrom  etc   initrd      lib         media  opt   root  srv  tmp  varboot  dev    home  initrd.img  lost+found  mnt    proc  sbin  sys  usr  vmlinuzand then ?15:24
sjckHi, how can I unrar a .rar with password?15:27
trappistit should ask you for a password if it's encrypted15:27
sjckWith Ark too?15:28
sjckI mean, does Ark ask too?15:28
trappistI dunno, I don't use ark15:28
sjckWhat you use than?15:28
trappistthe command line, for stuff like that15:28
sjcktar blabla?15:29
trappistright15:29
sjckCan you tell me whole command? :)15:29
trappistfor what?15:30
jussi01sjck: man tar will tell you lots:)15:30
* jussi01 thought ark asked tho15:30
sjckit doesnt ask15:30
sjckit says something pasword woudnt echoed15:31
todobghow to remove this panel in kde4?15:31
jussi01todobg: kde4 -> #kubuntu-kde415:32
todobgty15:32
jussi01:)15:32
indystormso this linux thing is pretty cool.... runs good on my p3 1ghz with only 256mb ram!!! :)15:33
Drk_GuyHi!15:34
jussi01hi15:34
Drk_GuyI have a question15:34
todobghere same nice to run linux in Q6600 8800ultra15:34
Drk_GuyHow can i force apt to install stuff from my local repo15:35
Drk_Guy?15:35
Drk_GuyHow can i force apt to install stuff from my local repo?15:36
EnokI have only q6600 8800gtx, but can I still join the club?15:36
sjckIm simply not able to unrar my .rar with password. :(15:36
Drk_Guysjck: Install unrar15:36
llutzsjck: unrar x file.rar15:36
Drk_GuyIts a propietary tool15:36
Wizardlol15:36
Drk_GuyBut it works15:36
senorpedrosjck: open the file in ark and then click 'extract'15:37
Drk_GuyGuys....15:37
Drk_GuyArk suckz15:37
sjckArk doesnt work15:37
Drk_GuyHow can i force apt to install stuff from my local repo?15:37
llutzark cannot handle rar-withpassword15:37
sjckand unrar just returns me options15:37
senorpedroafaik can it handle passwords but not from the context menu15:37
llutzsjck: unrar x file.rar or unrar e file.rar15:38
sjckunrar p mypass name.rar?15:38
aaroncampbellhow can I find what (if any) package has png2ico (a utility that I used to use all the time)15:39
llutzdpkg -S png2ico15:39
Drk_GuyHow can i force apt to install stuff from my local repo?15:39
jussi01!find png2ico15:39
jussi01!repeat | Drk_Guy15:39
* jussi01 waits...15:40
ubotuPackage/file png2ico does not exist in gutsy15:40
ubotuDrk_Guy: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience15:40
jussi01Drk_Guy: permanently?15:41
Drk_Guyno15:41
Drk_Guyjust one time15:41
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sjckllutz unrar e works :)15:42
llutzsure15:42
sjckthanks15:42
nibbeit says that I need SMB and NFS Server installed to share files via the network. How do I get it?15:45
jussi01!nfs15:46
jussi01!samba15:46
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.15:46
ubotuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.15:46
grul!pdf15:54
ubotupdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)15:54
DownixThe older I get the less I like pdf's15:54
falkoWsup?15:59
Drk_Guy¬¬15:59
falkolol, nice my first time at IRC ^^16:00
Drk_GuyCan i change the way files open16:00
Drk_Guy?16:00
ForgeAushas anyone tried corio-dock?16:00
Drk_GuyI.E. Open them with double click16:00
ForgeAuserm sorry cairo-dock16:00
SlimeyPe1eDrk_Guy: yes16:00
DownixGrr, I need to get IE running now16:00
Downixugh16:00
falkoi have ubuntu feisty on ma PPC G3,... someone has a site with software?16:00
ForgeAusits a berli-os project looks like a nice dock applet16:01
SlimeyPe1eDrk_Guy: go to System Settings via the K Menu16:01
SlimeyPe1eDrk_Guy: click on Keyboard and Mouse, then on Mouse. The option is in there.16:01
ForgeAusfalko a site? use adept16:01
ForgeAus(add/remove packages if you like)16:01
falkoi mean: were can I find a "catalog" of PPC compatible software , and add/remove packages are great!16:01
ForgeAusad/remove packages IS a ppc compatibel catalog, or at least should be...16:02
sigma_1234falko: packages.ubuntu.com16:02
ForgeAusthere is of course more packages you can add...16:02
ForgeAus(or more repositories)16:02
nuxilis kbluetooth broken in gutsy ?16:03
ForgeAusouch I'd hope not nuxil16:03
sigma_1234i doubt it16:03
falkokk thanx16:03
nuxilim having serious issues with it.. i can only send from my pc to my mobile., but not from my mobile to my pc16:03
FaiDillinGerkbluetooth doesnt work well with me too, same here nuxil16:04
nuxilit worked fine in feisty16:04
nuxiland the help in kbluetooth is a bit outdated16:04
nuxilas there is no such thing as kbluetoothd in the current package.16:05
ForgeAusnuxil could be a bug???16:05
sigma_1234i thought gutsy had a updated version16:05
ForgeAussigma it does...16:06
ForgeAus!kbluetooth16:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kbluetooth - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:06
nuxilheh16:07
ForgeAusawww16:07
sigma_1234so then how can it be outdated16:07
grul!okular16:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about okular - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:07
nuxil!kbluetoothd16:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kbluetoothd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:07
ForgeAuskwireless16:07
ForgeAus!kwireless16:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kwireless - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:07
nuxilOMg16:07
sigma_1234!info kbluetooth16:07
ubotuPackage kbluetooth does not exist in gutsy16:07
ForgeAusI dunno it'll be a note in some package16:07
nuxillol16:07
ForgeAus!info kbluetoothd16:07
ubotuPackage kbluetoothd does not exist in gutsy16:07
ForgeAusmust be built into some other package maybe the networking subsystem or something16:08
nuxilthe bot needs a update too ;p16:08
llutzpackage is kdebluetooth16:08
ForgeAus!info kdebluetooth16:09
ubotukdebluetooth: KDE Bluetooth Framework. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0~beta8-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 842 kB, installed size 3800 kB16:09
ForgeAus!kdebluetooth16:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdebluetooth - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:09
nuxil!libbluetooth216:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libbluetooth2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:09
sigma_1234it will probably be updated when hardy is released16:09
ForgeAuswell you were right llutz found the package :)16:09
stdin!msgthebot > nuxil16:09
llutzForgeAus: "dpkg -S kbluetooth" tells you :)16:09
nuxildoes the pack miss kdebluetoothd ?16:10
nuxilthe daemon16:11
llutznuxil:there's  no such app in gutsy16:12
nuxilits kinda strange, when i send a file to the mobile. i punch in a pin "1111" same on the pc. then i accept the file on the pc. the should happen other way around, but after it asks to put in pin. it seems like it disconects. like ther is no server running on the pc.16:13
DreadKnightwhat's the alternative for "show desktop" in kde4? i've heard it's something like the mac dash board where the widget get on top...16:13
dhqhow to install kde416:14
llutzask in  #kubuntu-kd416:14
llutzask in  #kubuntu-kde416:14
stdindhq: and read the topic16:14
stdinDreadKnight: I think it's Ctrl-F1216:14
DreadKnightstdin: it seems so, thanks :)16:15
DreadKnightdamn, i really hate hotkeys that include the function keys :|16:16
DreadKnighteh16:17
vigneshHey all16:19
vigneshAre kde4 pkgs available for feisty ?16:19
stdinvignesh: no16:19
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vigneshah..16:20
nuxilso how can i get my bluetooth working ?16:21
stdin!bluetooth16:22
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup16:22
Drk_Guy!mp316:22
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats16:22
Drk_Guy...16:25
Drk_GuyGuys16:25
Drk_GuyWhat do i have to do to enable Amarok to play files?16:25
ostekakegstreamer maby16:26
Drk_GuyInstalled all16:26
Drk_GuyBut still nothing16:26
jussi01kubuntu-restricted-extras16:26
Drk_GuyI remember i installed some xine engine and it played16:26
Drk_Guyall multimedia files16:26
jussi01Drk_Guy: ^^16:26
Drk_GuyBut i dont remember the name16:26
nuxilstdin, that doesnt work.16:26
stdinDrk_Guy: make sure you restart amarok after installing it16:27
Drk_GuyStill, no codecs available16:28
Drk_GuyI installed all the latest gstreamer versions16:29
Drk_GuyWhat could be failing?16:29
ostekakesudo apt-cache search mp316:29
jussi01Drk_Guy: did you install kubuntu-restricted-extras ?16:29
jussi01ostekake: you dont need sudo with that16:29
ostekakei know. sry16:30
Drk_GuyNo jussi16:30
Drk_GuyGonna try that16:30
jussi01!tab > Drk_Guy16:31
DreadKnightdoes the wacom mouse works in hardy now? :D16:34
stdinDreadKnight: #ubuntu+116:34
DreadKnightstdin: ok ^^16:34
Drk_Guyi knew that jussi0116:35
jussi01Drk_Guy: great! you didnt use it before, so I assumed :)16:36
Drk_Guy...16:37
Drk_GuyHow can i list running processes?16:37
Drk_GuyI forgot it16:37
nosrednaekimDrk_Guy: ps -ef16:37
nosrednaekimor top16:37
nosrednaekimafter that happens,the kde3 applications won't even work in another WM (like qlwm)16:38
nibbealways when using ./config i keep getting: "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" Why?16:38
nosrednaekimwhoops wrong channel16:38
nosrednaekimnibbe: grab the package "build-essential"16:38
nuxilhmm16:39
Drk_GuyHow can i kill a process by its PID16:39
Chousukekill <pid>16:39
nuxilanyone got a bluetooth fully working?16:40
jussi01nuxil: yep, me16:40
jussi012 of them infact16:40
nuxiljussi01, are you sure.. both ways. from mobilephone to pc and vs16:40
llutznuxil: works with my nokia 6233 for DUN and file-operations16:40
jussi01nuxil: I use it for work every day....16:40
nuxilhmm. strange16:41
maxym!fr16:41
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.16:41
nuxiland you both are running gutsy?16:41
hsystemx_Drk_Guy, in terminal write:  ps -ef|grep YOUR_USER      , in the list of processes that it will show up, there is also the PID of each process.16:41
nuxil@ jussi01 & llutz16:41
jussi01nuxil: yes16:42
llutzyes16:42
hsystemx_So, after you find the proccess you want to kill, in terminal write:   kill  PID     , where PID is the number.16:42
Drk_GuyThanks hsystemx_16:42
Drk_Guyjussi01: Got the cure16:44
Drk_Guyjussi01: What was needed was only libxine1-ffmpeg16:45
Drk_GuyThat lib lets amarok comunicate with Gstreamer16:45
Drk_Guy:)16:45
kadamI'd like to start developing for KDE4/Qt4.  I have kdevelop, but when I start a new project the "kde4" section is empty.  I installed kde4-devel and the qt deveopment packages (I think), what do I need to do?16:45
ostekakeim trying to find a http tunnel app16:52
ostekakeare this good: corkscrew vtun httptunnel16:52
WorgiLi installed asp.net 2.0. When i want open some pages, it starting donwload. How can i solve ? can anyone help me ?16:57
emilsedghasp.net 2.0?! gh16:58
WorgiLemilsedgh: yes asp.net 2.016:58
ForgeAushehe asp.net 2 for linux?16:58
WorgiLForgeAus yes16:58
nosrednaekimlol16:58
WorgiLhttp://www.turkishzen.com/asp16:58
ForgeAusthats .net framework libraries isn't it?16:59
ForgeAusdon't you need mono or something?16:59
WorgiLi installed mono16:59
WorgiLForgeAus: can you look http://crm.pcshey.com/iletisim/iletim.asp17:00
WorgiLForgeAus: can you look http://crm.pcshey.com/iletisim/iletisim.asp17:00
WorgiLdo Gonder17:00
WorgiLstarting download17:00
WorgiLForgeAus: have you any idea ?17:02
WorgiLcan anyone help me ?17:04
SlimeyPe1eWorgiL: well, you'll need some sort of web server software that can compile ASP, for instance an Apache module. I don't know if such a thing exists for Linux.17:06
SlimeyPe1eah, Google says you need to enable mod_mono17:07
Downixewww, mono17:07
Downixthe standard that isn't standard17:07
ForgeAusyes asp.net 2 apps need to be served (usually on windows that means IIS)17:09
ForgeAustheres also an iis emulator for inetd isn't there? dunno how well featured it is tho17:09
voonteWhich is the place to go for support on development tasks, such as questions about packaging, patching, etc?17:11
runleveltenHi, is anyone aware that emacs-based assistive technologies are broken atm, and don't install?17:21
viruselo everyone17:21
virusone question17:21
runlevelten!ask17:22
ubotuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)17:22
viruscan someone give a link to list of content dvd and cd of the newest kubuntu17:22
virusi'm just wandering if dvd contains some more packets to instal then cd version of instalation17:23
viruswondering sorry :)17:23
stdinvirus: it does, it's bigger ;) I'll find the link with the file list for you17:24
virusi hope it is more "fat" :d17:24
WorgiLSlimeyPe1e must i set mod_mono open ?17:25
WorgiLSlimeyPe1e must i set mod_mono open about apache ?17:25
stdinvirus: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/gutsy/release/kubuntu-7.10-dvd-i386.list  (look under /pool)17:25
SlimeyPe1eWorgiL: you need to enable it in your Apache configuration17:25
viruscheers!17:25
WorgiLokay SlimeyPe1e i will try17:26
SlimeyPe1eWorgiL: http://www.mono-project.com/Mod_mono17:26
SlimeyPe1e^^ looks like it has instructions17:26
Drk_GuyHi17:27
Drk_GuyI have a curiosity17:27
Drk_Guywhy Nvidia driver detected my card as an ATi card, and asigned it a diferent PCI id17:28
Drk_Guyand the nvidia driver17:28
Drk_Guylol17:28
virusthe other thing is - what installing aplication instead of apt - should i use to install automatix packages?17:28
nosrednaekim!automatix17:28
ubotuautomatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »17:28
WorgiLSlimeyPe1e how can i do apache mod_mono set ?17:29
virusso what you can tell me about installing imortant - to me - mp3 plugin or packages manager? what manager should i download and install?17:30
odinsbaneokay I have a functionality question about kde 417:31
nosrednaekimvirus: run this command "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras"17:31
nosrednaekimodinsbane: ok17:31
odinsbaneI did something with my mouse and all of my programs because somewhat small and I was a able to click on one and it became the focus.17:32
Dr_willisodinsbane,  thats a feature. :)17:32
virusi tried it - in moment of instalation of java uprgrade its stopping suddenly and app aplication is 'eating' half of my 3 coma 2 GHz CPU17:32
nosrednaekimodinsbane: move your mouse to the upper left corner17:32
Dr_willismove to the top left, enables that expose-like featuyre17:32
virusapt sorry17:33
odinsbanedoesn't do it.17:33
virusit's quite nervous to make 10 times the same operation without effect17:34
Dr_willischeck the kde4 settings. you may have it disbled now.  Im not using kde4 any more. so cant help much more.17:34
Dr_willisalso it may take a second or 2 to kick in.17:34
mikelimaHi all. I'm trying to compile KDE4 on kubuntu hardy...17:35
lg188_how do you send a text to a server ?17:35
mikelimaBut kdebase does not compile (Wrong strigi version, apparently...)17:35
WorgiLSlimeyPe1e i have apache_mod_mono already http://turkishzen.com/asp/ you can see17:36
mikelimaTrying to remove the distribution strigi would remove all of KDE too...17:36
odinsbaneDr_willis do you still use kde?17:37
Dr_willisI just removed kde4 last night.17:38
virusi think that there might be some mistakes - dependes about localisation of that desktop user17:38
Dr_willisso on the desktop i got i use kde, laptop using gnome.17:38
=== snes|no is now known as ostekake
crookshanksany opinions of kde4?17:40
ostekakei cant play DVDs. Error reading NAV packet.17:40
SlimeyPe1ecrookshanks: it's promising but it's a long way from being finished.17:41
Dr_williscrookshanks,  leave it alone for now. :)17:41
DaSkreechcrookshanks: I think it's one version number higher than KDE317:41
DaSkreech but that is just one man's opinion17:41
SlimeyPe1eWait for 4.1 if you want something usable.17:41
odinsbaneDr Willis, What did you call the feature?17:41
nexamac:>17:41
crookshanksI figured as much17:41
RonPaul_pwnzi tried kde 4, but i'm back using 3.5 right now17:41
virussudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras - have anyone some troubles with java packages in it?17:41
nexamacwheres the default place stuff end up when i copy something from a remote computer via dolphin?17:41
Dr_willisodinsbane,  i think it was called expose in the settings17:41
nexamaccause its not on my desktop >_>17:41
nosrednaekimcrookshanks: i'm using it,its dfinately usable but wait until at least 4.01 for some of the big problems to get fixed17:42
odinsbaneThe change from rc2 is amazing...somethings are now functional and somethings arent17:42
nosrednaekimodinsbane: well, its a copy of the Mac Expose17:42
crookshanksnosrednaekim: I'll probably wait until hardy comes out to use it17:42
=== pfein is now known as pfein-away
virusas i see java is not problematic for most of U - lucky U :(17:44
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DaSkreechcrookshanks: If you aren't really interested in KDE4 >really< interested you might want to sit 4.0 series out17:47
odinsbanePlasma is not a 'happy' program17:48
DaSkreechit's between states :)17:48
virushonestly - there's less of soft than in ubuntu...17:49
virusi'm wondering why?17:49
odinsbaneas a matter of fact, it just vanished again.  I'm firin' gnome back up.17:49
=== lg188___ is now known as lg188
DaSkreechvirus: There is is less soft?17:51
virusit's obvious isnt' it?17:52
viruswhen i've installed it from cd, i was scared17:52
* Drk_Guy is so mad17:52
Drk_Guywhy Compiz is not working!!!?17:52
Wizardok.. where can i get support/ask questions on kubuntu hardy on powerpc :)17:52
virusnext few days show me that i wasn't wrong :(17:52
ignignokthey i'm using amarok 1.4.8 and each time i start it my collection's empty and i need to rescan.. what gives17:52
august_!root17:53
ubotuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo17:53
ignignoktwizard: i believe #kubuntu+117:53
nosrednaekimignignokt: do you have alot of playlists?17:53
ignignoktnone17:53
Wizardand what about ppc ?17:53
nosrednaekimignignokt: Wizard: #ubuntu+117:53
ignignoktactually maybe 117:53
ignignokt... i've been using amarok on gnome for a while and it's been fine, then i switched to kde and it's doing this17:54
emilsedgh!adeptfix > farzad17:54
nosrednaekimignignokt: then do this "rm -rf .kde/share/apps/amarok"17:55
martin_connect #kubuntu.fr17:55
crookshanksDaSkreech: I would say that I'm 'fairly' interested in kde417:55
crookshanksDaSkreech: but I probably will wait a few months before I use it17:56
martin_!fr17:56
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.17:56
DaSkreechcrookshanks: Might be worth to have it as an alternate login option then17:57
ignignoktit's rebuilding collection...17:57
ignignoktthen i'll quit/reopen see if its still there17:57
CrocoJetKDE 4 is out .. how to setup network ? I cant find option to enter IP, masc, DNS, etc17:58
CrocoJetI made download remaster kubuntu17:58
CrocoJetis correct ?17:58
nosrednaekimCrocoJet: that CD is really only for testing KDE4, not for doing anything "useful" however,if you have ethernet a quick "sudo dhclient eth0" should probably work.17:59
CrocoJetoh ok .. so KDE 4 is ready .. yet17:59
CrocoJetto use, right ?17:59
DaSkreechCrocoJet: For some definition of ready18:00
MilhousePunkRockHello everyone!18:00
nosrednaekimCrocoJet: yes, it is to a certain extent, but I am still using a good deal of kde3 apps18:00
odinsbaneCrocoJet,it is not solid.18:00
nosrednaekimhey MilhousePunkRock18:00
CrocoJetok18:00
MilhousePunkRockI am finally ready to upgrade to Gutsy...18:00
CrocoJetgutsy is not stable yet .. right ?18:01
CrocoJet(kubuntu)18:01
DaSkreechCrocoJet: Hardy is not stable18:01
nosrednaekimyeah... gusty id stable18:01
ignignoktyes it is18:01
ignignokthardy isn't18:01
odinsbaneGnome + Gutsy = rocksolid18:01
* DaSkreech whispers Though I agree gutsy isn't stable yet either18:01
CrocoJetok18:01
crookshankshehe18:01
MilhousePunkRockOnly, I don't have the "Recommended updates" and "Pre-released updates" setting in the adept manager18:01
DaSkreechOn the road again!18:01
nosrednaekimMilhousePunkRock: you may have to add the backports repository then18:02
MilhousePunkRockIf I choose "manage repositories" I only get the sources list, no settings whatsoever18:02
ignignoktnosrednaekim: it appears that it's holding onto my collection now, thanks... i'll return if it goes wrong again18:02
nosrednaekimignignokt: ok. great18:03
danubeanyone knows about exchange compatibility with kontact?18:03
MilhousePunkRocknosrednaekim: feisty-backports are there... I was hoping to go the easy way, not changing every "feisty" in the sources.list to "gutsy"18:03
nosrednaekimMilhousePunkRock: oh, I see... well I think there is an upgrade app to do all that for you..18:04
nosrednaekim!upgrade18:04
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes18:04
RonPaul_pwnzis there an app for adept that will automatically alert me of updates to my software from the system tray?18:05
MilhousePunkRocknosrednaekim: Thanks, but what is there is the same as on the Gutsy release page, my adept does not have those settings, like I said before18:05
MilhousePunkRockRonPaul_pwnz: Yes... adept-notifier I think18:06
RonPaul_pwnzk thanks18:06
RonPaul_pwnzah, now i remember, i disabled the notifier because it was telling me to update something that i didn't want to update :)18:07
MilhousePunkRockRonPaul_pwnz: Just "pin" the version you want to keep...18:08
MilhousePunkRock!pinning18:08
ubotupinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto18:08
RonPaul_pwnzah, nice18:08
MilhousePunkRockRonPaul_pwnz: I have done that because I had to downgrade something to work properly on my particular system18:08
palashhi all18:08
RonPaul_pwnzyeah i custom compiled amarok because it wouldn't work with my ipod with the defualt install18:09
RonPaul_pwnzand it kept wanting me to get the latest version of amarok18:09
palashhow latest? amarok 2.0?!18:10
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RonPaul_pwnzis 2.0 out?18:10
palashit's not.18:10
RonPaul_pwnzi hope 2.0 likes me better18:11
RonPaul_pwnzamarok is pretty good at locking up my entire system from time to time18:11
Drk_GuyHi18:14
indystormhey is there an easy way to get programs installed in kubuntu?18:14
Drk_GuyCan anyone help me?18:14
Drk_GuyEmerald doesnt have any themes18:14
Drk_GuyBut it comes with like 15 thmes by default18:15
stdin!adept | indystorm18:15
ubotuindystorm: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto18:15
stdin!compiz | Drk_Guy, see this page for information on getting emerald themes18:16
ubotuDrk_Guy, see this page for information on getting emerald themes: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion18:16
Drk_Guystdin: Already done18:17
Drk_Guystdin: But no themes18:17
Drk_Guystdin: Also, i cant fetch non gpl'd themes18:17
stdinso you've done "svn ls https://svn.generation.no/emerald-themes" ?18:17
Drk_GuyYep18:18
Drk_Guyill pastebin the error18:18
Dr_willisDrk_Guy,  theres some command i thought ya ran to let emerald download themes automaticially18:18
Dr_willisi recall the info on the !compiz page18:18
Dr_willis!compiz18:18
lovrehi al18:18
lovrei just tried kde4 live cd (kubuntu).....18:19
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion18:19
teeahr1hey all, i tried to install KDE4 yesterday, and the install seemed to take, but now I can't log in to either KDE4 or KDE3.  i posted to the forums > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=667034 but no one seems to know what's going on.  can anyone help me out with this?18:19
Drk_Guystdin: http://www.pastebin.ca/85495818:20
lovrefirst impression: im dissapointed. :(18:20
stdinteeahr1: did you select kdm-kde4 as the default display manager?18:20
teeahr1stdin: yep18:20
stdinteeahr1: that's the problem then, you need to set it back to kdm (the normal one)18:21
stdinDrk_Guy: emerald hasn't been maintained since around July 2007, nothing can be done18:21
dhqdoes any one know how i can find my intergrated laptop camera18:21
teeahr1stdin: okay, but how do i do that?  i can't get to another terminal, ctrl-alt-F(1-6) just puts my monitor to sleep.18:21
Drk_Guystdin: But it is upposed to come with like 20 themes18:22
stdinteeahr1: login to the console and do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"18:22
Drk_Guystdin: What happenned then?18:22
stdinDrk_Guy: it did when beryl did18:22
stdin*died18:22
stdinteeahr1: start in recovery mode ?18:22
teeahr1stdin: i'll try that, and get back to you.  thx.18:23
stdinteeahr1: are you on a live cd now?18:23
dhq[   14.852000] uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device Laptop Integrated Webcam (05a9:2640)18:23
dhq[   14.852000] uvcvideo: Failed to query (135) UVC control 1 (unit 0) : -32 (exp. 26).18:23
dhq[   14.908000] usbcore: registered new interface driver uvcvideo18:23
stdin!paste | dhq18:23
teeahr1no, i'm on my laptop.18:23
ubotudhq: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)18:23
stdinteeahr1: ok, because you can do it from a live cd too18:24
dhqstdin: 3lines of code os a flood18:24
dhqerr is18:24
teeahr1okay, booting to live cd now.18:24
dhqstdin: please help me set up my cam18:24
stdin!webcam18:24
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras18:24
Drk_Guystdin: there's somthing funny18:24
Drk_Guystdin: When i try to install "emerald-themes", it says another package refers to it18:25
Drk_GuyWhich package could be?18:25
stdinDrk_Guy: that's because the package doesn't exist any more18:25
Drk_Guystdin: But which is the package it refers to?18:26
stdinDrk_Guy: emerald18:26
Drk_Guyemerald doesn't install the themes...18:26
Drk_GuyIt cannot be that one18:26
stdinemerald Recommends: emerald-themes18:26
stdintherefore it refers to the package18:27
[ex]p|0s10nкто тут из наших?18:27
stdin!ru18:27
ubotuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke18:27
[ex]p|0s10nры ры кста:-)18:27
voonteSo I'm trying to get the hang of building and patching deb packages and I made a quick fix to kdm-kde4. Do I really need to rebuild the whole kdebase-workspace package when the only change I made was to kdm?18:27
stdinvoonte: 1) yes, 2) kdm-kde4 was already fixed (by yours truly) :P18:28
teeahr1stdin: joy! i ran dpkg-reconfigure kdm in recovery and i'm back in business! thx!18:28
stdinteeahr1: no problem18:28
stdinvoonte: what does your patch do exactly?18:28
voontestdin: Awesome :) I did this for practice, though18:29
OffoffoffKDE is evil!18:29
voonteNothing worth submitting, just learning (the overly complex) deb system :P18:29
parkini can play mp3 in amarok but not in juk, anyone know what libraries i need to play mp3 in juk?18:29
parkinor something else?18:29
stdinvoonte: the kde4 packages aren't the best to start learning, they are insanely complicated18:29
voontestdin: the kde4 packages (using the cmake scripts) made it really easy to work on single packages though18:30
xgoonerxi can't insert password after sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.original18:31
xgoonerxi want to change my repository server18:32
jussi01xgoonerx: it wont show it but it is still going in18:32
xgoonerxic18:32
rothchildHi all, i've broken something uninstalling kde4 http://pastebin.com/m59b85f5f18:32
jussi01!u > xgoonerx18:32
rothchildthere's some sort of conflict between kdebase-bin and kdebase-bin-kde418:32
teeahr1_i'm  back. i'm logged in to KDE successfully, but i still don't have any other terminals (ctrl-alt-F1-6)18:33
jussi01rothchild: try sudo apt-get install -f18:33
stdin!packaging | have a look at this voonte, you can also get help in #kubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-motu18:33
ubotuhave a look at this voonte, you can also get help in #kubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-motu: The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports18:33
vincent__Heya, can anyone tell me what's going on with the pakage installer under kubuntu? It keeps breaking. Third install today..18:33
rothchildjussi01: tried it no joy18:33
stdinteeahr1_: would you happen to have an ATI graphics card?18:33
teeahr1_stdin: nope, intel chip18:33
xgoonerxjussi : no... it says sorry, try again18:34
xgoonerxi can't insert the password18:34
stdinteeahr1_: strange then, it's a common problem with ATI, not so with intel. you could try disabling the boot splash and see if that helps18:34
rothchildhttp://pastebin.com/m76c31ac618:34
teeahr1_i did notice in the kdm.log these two lines:18:34
stdinrothchild: upgrade before installing18:35
xgoonerxjussi : i've succeeded installing ubuntu on my hdd btw.. after reformating, deleting partition and ofcourse reinstalling winxp ..lol18:35
vincent__"There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. "18:35
stdinrothchild: oh, you're removing...18:35
teeahr1_(EE) intel(0): No valid modes.18:35
vincent__Adept keeps doing that..18:35
stdinrothchild: use aptitude or just install "kdebase-bin-kde3" first18:35
jussi01vincent__: have you updated?18:35
teeahr1_(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.18:35
teeahr1_i already have boot splash disabled.18:36
teeahr1_perhaps a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg may be in order.18:36
vincent__I haven't done anything yet. Clean install. That's why it's breaking?18:36
stdinteeahr1_: possibly, but backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf first ;)18:37
voontestdin: Thanks. That's the information I'm reading now, but I couldn't find anything regarding the KDE4 packages (which primarily is what I plan to send patches for).18:37
stdinvoonte: that will give you the basics you need, we can help in #kubuntu-devel with the rest18:38
voontestdin: alright, thanks18:39
luca_bstdin: would #kde-devel a right place to ask aslo to try and track down problems in packages?18:40
teeahr1_tried to reconfigure xserver-xorg, no joy18:40
stdinluca_b: #kde-devel don't have anything to do with packaging, if it's a bug in the code then yes otherwise probably not18:41
luca_bstdin: whoops; I meant #kubuntu-devel18:42
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kristinahi, what program could I use to redirect the internet traffic of a program over a proxy?18:43
stdinluca_b: packaging issues should always go on launchpad against the package, then if you want you can poke us in -devel18:45
jussi01kristina: which program, your browser?18:45
rothchildstdin thanks aptitude rocks!18:46
kristinajussi01: no, it's a tv streaming app18:46
jussi01ahh18:46
rothchildkristina: do you mean something like this? http://www.fire-drill.com/18:48
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kristinarothchild: yeah something like that I suppose. is it legal by the way?18:49
navetzwhat software can I use to mount ISO's?18:50
jussi01kristina: do you mind me asking which app?? ie. sopcast?18:50
stdin!iso | navetz18:50
ubotunavetz: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.18:50
kristinajussi01: zattoo18:50
rothchildkristina: I don't know, it's almost certainly a policy contravention for most IT depts!18:50
kristinaok, I'll check the conditions of zattoo and look into firedrill18:51
stdinnavetz: see also http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/MountFile?content=61955 for a GUI wrapper around that command18:51
thomas__bonjour18:52
thomas__quelq'un parle francais?18:52
jussi01!fr18:52
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.18:52
thomas__merci18:52
jussi01kristina: apt-cache search proxy returns a huge list, maybe you want to have a look through18:53
rothchildkristina: ianal but I can't imagine why zattoo would care, if your trying to get it in to china or cuba or some such then the authorities might be a bit more concerned18:53
alesanhey where can I read how to write n the sources.list file. I have this site: http://giss.tv/~vale/ I would like to setup as repository for amd6418:54
rothchildalesan sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list18:54
marx2kHm.. how do I tell KDE bug tracker what compiler vcersion I have?18:55
stdinmarx2k: ask in #kde18:55
foibleshas anyone here tried suse?18:56
foibleswhat did you think of it?18:56
alesanrothchild: I prefere vi, that is not the point, what should I write? I only know the repository is located there18:56
stdin!ot | foibles18:56
ubotufoibles: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!18:56
danubefoibles: what's your concern?18:56
foiblesdanube: ive just never tried it before18:56
foiblesive tried all other major distros, and a ton of obscure ones18:57
parkini can play mp3 in amarok, kaffeine, vlc but not in JuK. neither with aRts, Gstreamer or aKode. Anyone got any idea how to fix this in JuK ?18:57
danubefoibles: oh. ;) well, it's worth a try. but imho kubuntu is better.18:57
foiblesdanube: im downloading a dvd iso18:57
danubefoibles: do you have any special requests?18:57
foiblesdanube: how do you mean18:58
danubefoibles: any expectations18:58
stdinfoibles, danube: this isn't the place to discuss suse18:58
rothchildalesan: I don't think that is set up as a repository that apt-get will understand18:58
foiblesdanube: we are angering stdin18:58
danubei see. let's go private18:58
foiblesdanube: go to #kubuntu-offtopic18:59
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rothchildalesan they are recogniseable because they tend to look like this: deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted19:00
mewshihi19:00
mewshiwhen will KDE 4 be ready?19:00
jussi01!kde4 > mewshi19:01
alesan!kde419:01
ubotuKDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde419:02
SuQaKlarade jag av att komma in ? :O19:02
SuQaWohoo!19:02
stdin!se19:02
ubotuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se19:02
kyeWhat would be a good chan to join with a n64 emulator?19:02
kyeWhat would be a good chan to join for help with a n64 emulator?19:03
marx2kdamn konqueror crashing like its drunk19:03
SuQaAnyone as can help me with drivers to my VIA unichrome pro? i've googl'd all day long! _(19:04
marx2kwhats a VIA unichrome pro?19:04
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SuQaIts a Graphic card ( im froom sweden, bad english)19:04
marx2koh...19:05
SuQamarx2k, why not use firefox, my qonquertor crashes all time to.19:05
marx2kSuQa: I use it as a file browser. I use FF as a web browser19:05
watswronghello guys. i have a problem during installation from the live cd. how can i create an extended partition so i can create more logical partitions?19:05
SuQaAh, I see!19:05
watswrong(the documentation site is not loading i don't know why)19:06
marx2kwatswrong: are you using gparted?19:06
SuQaSomeone as can help me installing my graphic card? (can't spell, froom swe)19:07
marx2k!swe19:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about swe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:07
SuQaswe as in sweden.19:07
jussi01!se19:07
watswrongi have no idea i ran the livecd and the "install" icon from the desktop"\19:07
ubotuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se19:07
SuQaJo, förökte komma in där, men hur?19:07
marx2kwatswrong: can you open a terminal and type 'gparted' and see if anything gets found?19:08
jussi01!en | SuQa19:08
ubotuSuQa: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat19:08
marx2kmeaning see if the program exists19:08
watswrongok just a sec19:08
SuQaI'll try!19:08
watswrongThe program 'gparted' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:19:09
watswrongsudo apt-get install gparted19:09
marx2kI would suggest doing that and use gparted to make those partitions19:09
marx2kits a graphical partitioning system that is pretty self explanatory19:09
SuQaOkey! I'll try that :)19:10
dhqcfdisk is better19:10
watswrongbut.. i am running Kubuntu from the live cd. will it install it?19:10
marx2kyeah it will install it19:10
watswrongok thnx i'll try it19:10
dhqwatswrong: well qtparted is preinstalled on the live cd19:10
SuQamarx2k, did u mean me to install or watswrong?19:10
marx2kSuQa: I meant watswrong :)19:10
SuQaBcs i've not it installd either.19:11
SuQaShould i install ?19:11
marx2kwatswrong: yeah if you can use qtparted, use that. I only suggest gparted since thats all I have experience with. I think they work the same so if you have qtparted already there, use that19:11
watswrongok.. but.. is there someone who has used the tool while running the installation guide of the live cd?19:12
watswrongmaybe i don't have to install it19:12
watswrongthere must be a way19:12
watswrong(the partitioning tool)19:12
dhqwatswrong: i have done it19:12
watswrongcould u create an extended partiotion??19:12
watswrongcause it lets you choose between "primary" and "logical"19:13
dhqwatswrong: you have 3 options on the live cd cfdisk,fdisk,qtparted19:13
dhqwell yes19:13
watswrongok i'll have a look thnx19:13
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watswrongdhq i don't have 3 options..19:15
watswrongthe only options are "guided  resize bla bla bla"19:15
watswrong"guided- use entire disk"19:15
watswrong"guided - use the larges continuous free space"19:15
watswrongand "manual"19:16
watswrongi select "manual"19:16
watswrongand on the next step i just choose partitions to delete , create or edit19:16
watswrongok anyway i will use fdisk is that ok?19:17
marx2kyeah see... what I do is before I even go into install, I use gparted (or qtparted in your case) to create the needed partitions... THEN I go into install19:17
watswrongoh i c19:17
watswrongok yes that sounds a better idea thnx19:18
marx2kthe default install program kind of sucks at partitions if you dont already have everything set up the way you want it, partitionwise19:18
watswrongdo you know why i can't see the documentation on the ubuntu site?19:18
watswrongis there a problem with the server or is it my prob ( although i can see all other sites)19:19
marx2kwhats the URL youre pointing at?19:19
watswronghttps://help.ubuntu.com19:19
marx2kAre you using konqueror to view that?19:20
watswrongyes19:20
marx2kDid you accept the cookie? (A secondary window pops up asking if you want to do so)19:20
watswrongi didn't have a secondary window poping up19:21
foiblesby the way19:21
foibleshas anyone tried kde4?19:21
foiblesis it alright?19:21
marx2kfoibles: You can read my take on it @ http://commodore128.blogspot.com19:22
marx2kwatswrong: weird.. mine popped up a new window asking me if I wanted to accept cookies on it19:22
watswronghmmm ok i'll check my setings19:22
marx2kwatswrong: and when I accepted.. THEN it went... you might want to go into config and do an 'accept all cookies' type dealie if possible19:22
watswrongyep19:23
watswrong... it has already "accept all cookies" by default19:24
watswrongi'll try another "https" site19:24
watswrongi can view them19:25
watswrong...that's strange...19:25
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robinswHi all19:26
marx2kthat is weird\19:26
watswrongexcept konqeror is there another web browser on the live cd?19:26
robinswWith KDE 3.5.x, I used to have to change the options for a USB hard disc formatted in NTFS that was called 'Mount as user' to unchecked. In KDE 4.0, I'm not given that option so I can't mount my NTFS formatted external hard discs.19:27
SuQaUnder systemconfig->monitor, is vesa normal there?19:27
robinswAny ideas?19:27
mark__how do i access programs that i have installd but aren't showing in the menu?19:28
mewshiSo, how is KDE 4?19:29
sigma_mark__: have you considered using the "run" dialog?19:29
sigma_mewshi: #kubuntu-kde419:29
mark__i can't remember the programs names19:29
mnovakmewshi: i am not entirely impressed19:29
mark__i would like to add them to the menu though19:30
robinswKDE4 is a nightmare.19:30
mnovaki dont like the panel19:30
sigma_guys its only a technology preview19:31
mnovakif you are new to linux i don't recommend kde419:32
kiddyhi, wird hier auch deutsch gesprochen19:32
kiddy?19:32
jussi01!de19:32
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de19:32
sigma_!de19:32
kiddythx19:32
emilsedgheveryone says this is not for end users, then users pick it up, dont like it and say it was nightmare!19:32
sigma_!info amarok19:32
ubotuamarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.7-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 9618 kB, installed size 31020 kB19:33
mnovakemilsedgh, i think kubuntu is very simple for the end user to pick up on19:33
robinswWith KDE 3.5.x, I used to have to change the options for a USB hard disc formatted in NTFS that was called 'Mount as user' to unchecked. In KDE 4.0, I'm not given that option so I can't mount my NTFS formatted external hard discs.19:33
emilsedghmnovak: im talking bout KDE 4.019:33
jussi01robinsw: kde4 support -> #kubuntu-kde419:33
mnovakoh yes19:34
mnovaki agree19:34
noaXessis there a kubuntu package to editing pdf files?19:34
noaXess!pdf19:34
ubotupdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)19:34
jussi01!info pdfedit19:34
ubotupdfedit: Editor for manipulating PDF documents. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-1 (gutsy), package size 2776 kB, installed size 7532 kB19:34
noaXessjussi01: okay.. i see.19:34
jussi01:)19:34
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ScorpKingsudo apt-get install problems19:37
* ScorpKing waits..19:37
sigma_ScorpKing: what are you waiting for?19:39
ScorpKingsigma_: someone with problems ;)19:40
danubeshort Q/A: does kubuntu support 3d effects?19:40
jussi01!compiz | danube19:41
ubotudanube: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion19:41
ThingusSomeone want to remind me how to delete all of the empty directories within a specific directory?19:41
danubegracias muchachos!19:41
jussi01Thingus: all the drectories, or only empty ones?19:41
sigma_danube: you could also install kde4 for 3d effects19:41
Thingusjussi01: Only empty ones.19:42
jussi01Thingus: not sure then, sorry19:42
ThingusI'm dealing with my music collection, and I want to weed out folders that Amarok emptied.19:42
ScorpKingThingus: try in #linux19:42
danubesigma_: thanks, good to know! but i've stopped adapting packages manually... ;)19:42
phxxhi@all19:42
ScorpKinghi phxx. welcome19:43
sigma_danube: just use the livecd - makes things alot simpler19:43
mnovakScorpKing: what kind of problems?19:43
danubesigma_: huh? isn't that coming with 3.5?19:43
phxxI've got a linux specific question, maybe someone could help me. That would be great:19:43
ScorpKingmnovak: something simple.19:44
mnovakphxx: what's your question?19:44
ScorpKing!ask19:44
ubotuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)19:44
jussi01danube: comiz works nice here on 3,5. kde4 just has its own built in ones...19:44
phxxWhere can i change to path from where the system loads shared libraries?19:44
sigma_danube: nope theres a kde4 livecd, check the kubuntu site for more details19:44
danubesigma_: oh i see, there's a new release!19:44
phxxI like to load a .so file from python19:44
sigma_danube: you didnt know that?19:45
phxxi have installed a self compiled version and one from the repos19:45
danubesigma_: not yet! *wannahaveit*19:45
mnovakphxx: you could try setting the env variable to the library location19:45
phxxthe first one in /usr/lib the second one in /usr/local/lib19:45
phxxmnovak: ok, but do you know what variable i need to modify?19:45
jussi01!kde4 > danube19:45
sigma_im out19:46
mnovakphxx: the path19:46
phxx$PATH?19:46
phxxThe $PATH specifies only the paths to the executables, i think19:46
mnovakphxx: sorry, you could put it in the LDPATH19:46
phxxbut not to shared libraries, isn't it?19:46
stdinphxx: see 'man python' and look under 'ENVIRONMENT VARIABLES'19:47
stdinpython looks under a different place than ld.so19:47
* danube gone for reboot19:47
FrauHansenanyone using pidgin on KDE here?19:47
mnovakFrauHansen: yes19:47
FrauHansenmnovak: do you have the tiny popups when you get a new message?19:48
mnovakFrauHansen: you mean like growl?19:48
phxxstdin: thanks i will try it19:48
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FrauHansenmnovak: i quickly googled for growl... that looks like the thing i have in mind19:50
FrauHansenmnovak: i thought libnotify would do the trick, but it doesn't pop up anything :(19:51
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supert0nesanyone know why the kde4 files keep getting recompiled?19:52
mnovakFrauHansen: try this http://www.mumbles-project.org/2007/06/03/pidgin-plugin-now-available/19:52
jussi01supert0nes: kde4 support -> #kubuntu-kde419:53
supert0nesi dont need kde support i'm just wondering19:53
FrauHansenmnovak: that looks interesting. thank you.19:54
mnovakFrauHansen: no problem, there are a few neat plugins for pidgin19:55
phxxok, i've checked the manpage and the homepage ... but i think thats no pythonspecific task, because i want to load the Library with ctypes:19:55
phxxctypes.cdll.LoadLibrary('libcaca.so.0')19:56
matteoanyone knows how to solve this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/18275319:56
FrauHansenmnovak: can i install the .deb and use it with my current installation of pidgin (2.3.1)?19:56
mnovakFrauHansen: you should be able to use the .deb package...it should work with your version too19:57
jarkko_How i can find (ati) x1950 driver. (Kubuntu)19:59
stdinsupert0nes: fixes are being uploaded, that's why19:59
ScorpKingi have a router on eth0 but use dailup on ppp0 for internet. if i connect ppp0 first and the eth0 i get kicked off the internet and the i have to redial to get back online. how can i prevent that from happening?20:00
llutzScorpKing: prevent eth0 from setting defaultroute20:02
ScorpKingllutz: how?20:02
llutz modify /etc/init.d/networking script or interfaces-file20:03
ScorpKingllutz: ok thanks. will do20:04
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holycowwhere are the kde 4 wallpapers stored?20:06
stdin/usr/lib/kde4/share/wallpapers/20:06
stdinjust take the kde3 path and replace "/usr" with "/usr/lib/kde4"20:07
holycowoh! danke20:08
cazevedoHello everyone. Can anyone help with a strange problem with KDE ?20:09
ScorpKing!ask | cazevedo20:10
ubotucazevedo: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)20:10
cazevedoOk. I have a (mainly) gusty install of kubuntu, which I updated with Synaptics. Now the KDE desktop display the contents of /, instead of $HOME/Desktop.20:11
nosrednaekimcazevedo: what do you mean by "mostly"20:12
cazevedoSo, instead of showing the icons I had setup, I get icons for usr, var, etc, bin, ...20:12
rainerfhi all... can someone point me to a resource explaining how to install korundum4?20:12
cazevedoMostly, because I pulled some upgrades from the hardy repositories.20:13
FrauHansenmnovak: thank you. looks like it works.20:13
nosrednaekimcazevedo: that probably wasn't smart20:13
mnovakFrauHansen: excellent, no problem20:14
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cazevedoProbably, but nevertheless my problem boils down to: where does KDE get the $HOME/Desktop path ? Is it precompiled or is there a config somewhere ?20:15
cazevedoAnd why should a upgrade change that path ?20:15
SSJ_GZcazevedo: It's configurable - one moment ...20:15
SSJ_GZcazevedo: System Settings or KControl → System Administration → Paths20:16
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stdinrainerf: the only package I can see named like that is libkorundum0-ruby1.820:17
cazevedo<SSJ_GZ>On kControl the desktop path is correct. I'll try now to point it to another directory...20:18
rainerfstdin: yeah, that's the one for kde 3.5.7... kde4 got a kdebindings package, but i was unable to find it in ubuntu.. or, for that matter, the sources themselves ;)20:18
SSJ_GZcazevedo: Ok20:18
stdinrainerf: then it's only available in svn20:18
riccardohi kann mir jemand sagen wie ich auf quakenet joinen kann20:19
stdinrainerf: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebindings/ruby/korundum/20:20
stdin!de20:20
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de20:20
rainerfstdin: hm, you wouldn't by any chance know any document describing what i need to build it? i guess there will be some dependencies?20:20
cazevedo>SSJ_GZ>I changed the setting to another directory and then back to $HOME/Desktop and my icons are back. So apparently KDE caches this information somewhere and the upgrade screwed with it.20:20
rainerfstdin: thanks for the link :)20:20
stdinrainerf: cmake will usually tell you what you need, but a good start is the "kde4-devel" package20:20
SSJ_GZcazevedo: Very odd, but I'm glad it works again =)20:20
riccardosome1 can explain me how i can join to quakenet20:20
cazevedo<SSJ_GZ>Thank you very much for your help.20:21
SSJ_GZnp20:21
stdinriccardo: if you're using konversation, try asking in #konversation20:21
rainerfstdin: hm, i've never used cmake, but i'll try :).. is there anything special to watch out for when building it for kubuntu? (perferrably building it so that i'll be able to remove it someday without hosing my system ;) )?20:21
stdinrainerf: cmake basically replaces the "./configure" script20:22
s0u][ighthi guys20:22
rainerfstdin: yes, that's what i figured.. do i need to take care of --prefix and stuff using cmake too?20:23
s0u][ighti wanted to install kubuntu on a friends pc20:23
stdinrainerf: yes, but it's different syntax with cmake, it'll be "cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/lib/kde4 /path/to/source"20:24
rainerfstdin: yes, that20:24
nosrednaekims0u][ight: and...20:24
rainerfstdin: yes, that's exactly what i was looking for, thanks a lot :)20:24
s0u][ightbut the first thing was that i couldn't set up the network (got the alternate cd) and the second thing was that the cd didn't recognize the hd so it asked for drivers :s20:24
stdinrainerf: if you're looking to make a .deb package, have a look at the kdebindings-kde4 source package20:26
rainerfstdin: what do you mean? i don't see this package here on my system (kubuntu gutsy)20:27
stdinrainerf: it's a source package, the binary packages it makes are python-kde4, python-kde4-dev, python-kde4-dbg and python-kde4-doc20:27
s0u][ight.............20:28
stdinrainerf: so to see the source (and importantly the debian/ dir) you can do "apt-get source kdebindings-kde4" (no sudo)20:28
stdinthat'll download it to the current dir20:29
ScorpKings0u][ight: weird. why didn't you just use the livecd?20:29
nosrednaekims0u][ight: what hard drive?20:29
august_!sudo20:29
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.20:29
bmk789is there KDE software that works like gnome's power monitor, that shows more battery info like capactity and graphs power cunsumption?20:29
s0u][ightthe cd didn't recognize my hard disk so it asked for the driver i had to choose it manually20:30
rainerfstdin: hm, how come that works, if the package is not in synaptic? (i'k kinda new to ubuntu, please bear with me)20:30
s0u][ightbut i don't know what driver to choose20:30
nosrednaekims0u][ight: what type of hard drive is it?20:30
s0u][ighti think sata 220:31
s0u][ightdunno for sure20:31
stdinrainerf: because that's the source package name, the binary package(s) (.debs) don't have to be the same name as the source package20:31
nosrednaekims0u][ight: does he have RAID?20:31
s0u][ightyeah20:31
rainerfstdin: ok, so do i get this right: the source package is distributed alongside the binaries of kde4, but can't be installed through synaptic (obviously, since it needs to be compiled first)?20:32
andrehi all20:33
stdinrainerf: no, this is for every package in the ubuntu archive. source packages is what we upload to the build system to make the debs for us20:33
andrei have a little problem in kubuntu7.1020:33
stdinrainerf: for instance konqueror is in the source package "kdebase", but "kdebase" is also a binary package. use "apt-cache showsrc <package>" to see what the source package names is (you can use "apt-get source" with binary package names too20:33
nosrednaekims0u][ight: hardware raid or software?20:33
andreSTRG+C / STR+V doesnt work from kde-konsole to kate and in other programs20:33
s0u][ighti think hardware not sure20:33
andreanyone have an idea where to look?20:33
s0u][ightthe box of my motherboard says supports raid20:34
august_how do i execute binarys from konsole?20:34
andrei know, i can use middle mouse,but there i have a wheel, and its easier to press strg+c20:34
stdinaugust_: type the path to it20:34
august_oh yea.. thx20:35
karthikpQuestion: How do I disable Desktop Effects in KDE4 from a terminal. I've botched up the display and I see nothing but the mouse and darkness...20:35
rainerfstdin: ah, i think i get it now... i've just tried to compile korundum (the kdebindings src package contains it), but running cmake shows that it will not be built...20:35
nosrednaekimandre: there should be keyboard shortcuts for copy and paste in the keyboard shortcuts config gui20:35
nosrednaekimkarthikp: hmm let me find the file which handles that20:36
karthikpI remember reading it in one of the planet kde blogs but I can't seem to find it.20:36
karthikpIt was some variable that had to be set to DONT_BREAK_MY_DISPLAY :)20:36
karthikpOr something close...20:37
rainerfstdin: -DENABLE_KORUNDUM=on doesn't change anything either...20:37
stdinrainerf: it's probably just not working, so it's disabled20:37
nosrednaekimkarthikp: try "rm .kde4/share/config/kwinrc"20:37
karthikpGot it. kwriteconfig --file kwinrc --group Compositing --key Enabled --type bool false20:37
rainerfstdin: :(20:37
karthikprm'ing the file is too far, no? :)20:38
stdinrainerf: it'll probably be done by 4.120:38
nosrednaekimkarthikp: it'll fix it just fine... not dangerous either20:38
nosrednaekimkarthikp: or you could edit it and dsable all plugins20:38
rainerfstdin: never mind, i got it, installing ruby1.8-dev wasn't a bad idea ;)20:38
karthikpOkay. So long then. Thanks for listening! (I disabled all plugins and turned on desktop effects and landed in this mess:( )20:39
rainerfstdin: is there any mechanism to build it and roll a .deb out of it? or should i straight away make/make install it?20:39
ScorpKings0u][ight: can you use a livecd instead?20:40
andrenosrednaekim, yes i have, but it doesnt work20:40
stdinrainerf: making a deb (properly) isn't an easy process. but if it's just for you (on your system) look at checkinstal20:40
andrefrom "konsole" to "kate"20:40
nosrednaekims0u][ight: if its on the MB, its not hardware20:40
s0u][ightok20:41
s0u][ightnope don't have the live cd20:41
rainerfstdin: yeah, i've read about it once, wanted to try it anyways;)... thanks a lot!20:41
nosrednaekims0u][ight: well, which MB do you have? maybe it is HW20:41
s0u][ightmsi p4m900m220:42
nosrednaekimok20:42
rakanhello, i am trying to install pidgin 1.3.1 but it needs libpango >= 1,8.3 and i have 1.8.220:45
rakanwhere can i find a .deb package for libpango?20:45
rakanit's not on getdeb20:45
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nexamacrakan: did you even bother googling that one? :<20:48
rakanyup20:48
rakandidn't find a deb package20:48
nexamacah20:48
rakannot even a website for this lib20:49
nexamaccant even find 1.8.3 oO20:50
nexamaclike.. at al20:50
nexamacall20:50
nexamacstupid mac keyboard20:50
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rainerfstdin: just to let you know, require 'korundum4' just worked :)20:54
rainerfstdin: thanks very much for your help!20:54
stdin:)20:54
rakanis there an application that can download apps from svn, compile them and install all at once? i mean something that can spare me compiling from source because i am a complete n00b20:54
rakanlike jhbuild for gnome20:55
nosrednaekim!info konpile20:55
buzukelishi. i wana begin to programing php. what software i shoud chose from synaptic package manager?20:55
nosrednaekim!info kompile20:55
ubotuPackage konpile does not exist in gutsy20:55
ubotukompile: interface for compilation automation for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3~beta2-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 172 kB, installed size 908 kB20:55
jugheadis there a tutorial for typing special characters in kubuntu gutsy?  I need to do a beta sign and there's no character map program like windows20:58
rakankompile is installed, what is the differance between profiled install and standard?20:58
nosrednaekimrakan: no idea,never used it before :)20:58
trappistrakan: just a guess, but it sounds like you can configure a profile with options, or accept the defaults (standard)20:59
rakanthanks21:00
rakandoes it get dependencies if they are not installed by default?21:00
trappistprobably not.  that would be really hard to do.21:01
trappistwhat are you building, btw?21:01
rakani am trying to build libpango any version >= 1.18.3 for pidgin 1.3.121:01
rakanbecause kubuntu repos have 1.2.1 deb package and did not find the newer version21:02
rakanon getdeb i found 1.3.1 pidgin package but requires the new libpango21:02
rakanno deb package for that21:02
rakan:(21:02
trappistrakan: if you're on gutsy you should have 1.18.321:02
rakani am on gutsy21:02
trappistbut, don't install libpango from source.  you'll break a lot of stuff.21:02
trappistrakan: dpkg -i libpango1.0-021:02
rakanhold on21:03
trappistthere is also a pidgin package21:03
bmk789GASP! KDE4 release and i didnt notice it!!!!21:03
rakanErrors were encountered while processing:21:04
rakan libpango1.0-021:04
TheFuzzballbmk789: you should probably wait for KDE 4.121:04
nosrednaekimbmk789: gimme your tin-foil had!21:04
trappistrakan: ack sorry, I meant dpkg -l21:04
bmk789TheFuzzball: why?? it buggy?21:04
TheFuzzballbmk789: yea21:05
rakantrappist: dpkg -l libpando1.0-0?21:05
trappistrakan: except spell pango right :)21:05
ubuntu_hola21:05
TheFuzzballbmk789: I've been building from trunk for the last few months and it still needs some work :)21:05
ubuntu_do you speak spanish ?21:05
trappist!es21:05
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.21:05
ubuntu_thanks21:05
bmk789TheFuzzball: if i install it will i be able to revert to 3.x?21:05
trappistbmk789: it installs alongside 3.x so you can choose when you log in21:06
rakantrappist: seems like -l gave some info and it says that libpango is v1.18.221:06
nosrednaekimbmk789: I have found it stable, but lacking in features21:06
TheFuzzballbmk789: you should have an option for KDE3 and KDE4 in KDM21:06
bmk789ah21:06
TheFuzzballbmk789: if you don't it installs to /opt/kde4/bin/startkde so just create a l21:06
TheFuzzballdamn21:06
TheFuzzballbmk789: make a link to it in /usr/share/xsessions21:07
bmk789ok21:07
trappistrakan: are you *sure* you're running gutsy?21:07
rakan100% gutsy gibbon 7.1021:08
trappistrakan: possibly mine came from the backports repo, checking now...21:08
DrakeJustice_no one here would want to help me compile kdelibs trunk would they? a certain function has an undefined reference21:09
nosrednaekimTheFuzzball: in kubuntu it install to /usr/lib/kde4/bin21:09
rakantrappist: kk21:09
rakantrappist: The cd i installed gutsy from was sent to me by canonical themselves21:10
trappistrakan: 1.18.2 is in main, 1.18.3 is gutsy-proposed21:10
TheFuzzballnosrednaekim: did I not say that?21:10
bmk789kde4-core: Depends: kdebase-workspace (>= 4:4.0.0) but it is not going to be installed    ???21:10
nosrednaekimTheFuzzball: you said /opt21:10
TheFuzzballnosrednaekim: ah, yea, I built mine from trunk21:10
TheFuzzballnosrednaekim: got a bit mixed up :p21:11
nosrednaekimbmk789: disable the backports repository21:11
trappistrakan: so to get 1.18.3 you need to add a gutsy-proposed source to your sources.list21:11
bmk789o21:11
trappistrakan: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-proposed main restricted universe multiverse21:11
rakantrappist: updating list21:12
trappistrakan: you'll get a lot of "beta" stuff from that repo, so you may want to turn it off after you've got what you need21:13
rakantrappist: ok i am downloading upgraded version of libpango, thanks alot man21:14
DavidTalbothello i have a little problem with ndiswrapper... the driver is loaded and the device is present but in iwlist there are no wireless extensions... anyone had an idea?21:14
trappistrakan: anyway in general installing stuff straight from source is a bad idea.  espeically if you're replacing a system library like pango from source - that will break a lot of stuff21:14
rakantrappist: I noticed, My kubuntu now is asking me for full upgrade 199 MB :p21:14
madolfiatonton t la ?21:15
trappistrakan: yeah that's probably coming from gutsy-proposed21:15
madolfiamikaelo21:15
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bmk789nosrednaekim: same error without backports21:15
rakantrappist: Thanks for the advice, installing from source is not just a bad idea to me but more like a hard one :D because broken dependencies make me nervous21:15
madolfia_allo21:15
nosrednaekimbmk789: you are using the PPA?21:16
bmk789yes21:16
trappistrakan: that's what makes it a bad idea :)21:16
nosrednaekimbmk789: and you ran "sudo apt-get update" after disabling backports?21:17
bmk789yes21:17
bmk789ill run it again21:17
trappistrakan: apt-cache rdepends libpango1.0-0 | wc -l   <-- that's how many packages depend on your version of libpango21:17
bmk789nosrednaekim: yes, same21:18
rakantrappist: I think canonical must take care and create a 1 click install to make it easy for people to run linux21:18
terran4000nexamac: Hey, you had a question for me?21:18
nexamacterran4000: ubuntu sucks :P!21:18
nosrednaekimstdin: any clue about bmk789's problem?  kde4-core: Depends: kdebase-workspace (>= 4:4.0.0) but it is not going to be installed?21:18
nexamacterran4000: need to get my HDTV to work with ubuntu >_>21:18
terran4000nexamac: That's what alcohol and kubuntu is for21:18
egorkhi there, I am trying to get help with compiz on Kubuntu but all attempts to connect to #compiz give me name lookup has failed. Trying to reconnect. Do I have to configure anything first?21:18
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NexaMacterran4000: Kubuntu wont install :<21:19
trappistrakan: you have to balance making it easy with other things like security and stability.  if you make it too easy to do certain things, you'll have a lot more people breaking their machines because they're messing with stuff they're not ready for.21:19
terran4000NexaMac: o.O Won't install?21:19
stdinbmk789: have you tried a full upgrade yet via adept?21:19
nosrednaekimegork: its #compiz-fusion21:19
NexaMacdownloaded and burned out 3 times, separate downloads all correct according to checksum21:19
NexaMacyar gives me an error letting me know either the disc or my HDD is broken21:19
rakantrappist: I guess u r right, but this one is for desktop so something has to be sacrificed21:19
terran4000o.O21:19
bmk789stdin: yes i did "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"21:19
terran4000NexaMac: weird stuff21:19
NexaMacthing is, ive tried 3 CD's and 2 HDD's, so i gave up an fetched gnome ubuntu21:19
NexaMacseems to work find21:19
NexaMacfine*21:19
stdinbmk789: after "sudo apt-get update" ?21:19
bmk789yes21:20
terran4000NexaMac: okie doki. you need to connect to the HDTV right?21:20
NexaMacyep in a few secs 90% install21:20
terran4000Sure21:20
rakantrappist: anyway, thanks alot for ur help i really appreciate it21:20
NexaMacterran4000: i can connect it fine, getting the resolution set up is the real problem :)21:20
stdinbmk789: check if "kdebase-bin-kde3" or "kdebase-bin-kde4" is installed21:20
trappistrakan: it's pretty dang easy as linux distros go.  probably the easiest.  there's still progress to be made, but some things shouldn't be sacrificed.  for example it shouldn't let you override dependencies without really *really* trying, because that can have severe consequences.21:21
egorknosrednaekim: same thing. the only channel I seem to be able to connect to is #kubuntu21:21
terran4000NexaMac: Hm, it would depend on the type of connection and quality of TV21:21
NexaMacterran4000: XGA cable over DVI output21:21
NexaMaci dunno all the english terms as my local stores use norwegian as main language ;>21:21
bmk789stdin: the kde3 one is installed21:21
NexaMacterran4000: the resolution im trying to use is 1360x76821:22
terran4000NexaMac: So, DVI - DVI connection?21:22
rakantrappist: one question left, where did u get the "deb ... etc" from? i mean if i dont have it in my apt list, is there a website that can provide u with such a link?21:22
NexaMacterran4000: TV has XGA (or VGA if you prefer that term) and computer's got DVI21:23
stdinbmk789: ok, pastebin what "apt-cache policy kdebase-workspace" shows21:23
NexaMacholy..21:23
lewixhi21:23
NexaMacO_O21:23
lewixdoes someone use audacity21:23
NexaMacit skipped Grub and keyboard using a ps/2 port doesnt work21:23
NexaMacwtf21:23
bmk789stdin: http://pastebin.com/m3ca4b9db21:24
terran4000NexaMac: brb, gotta bitch out the b-word date from last night.21:24
NexaMaco_O21:25
NexaMacill ask wtf that means when you get back tbh21:25
stdinbmk789: post what errors "sudo apt-get install kdebase-workspace" throws at you21:25
terran4000it's OT so IM me if you wanna talk about 'that'.21:25
trappistrakan: I don't remember where I got it, I just remember I had a nasty bug in a package, and when I went to report it on launchpad it had already been reported and fixed, and the fixed package was in the proposed repo, so I dug it up on google or something.21:25
stdinNexaMac: watch the language, using acronyms like that isn't acceptable here21:25
NexaMac:<21:26
stdinterran4000: you too, watch the language please21:26
bmk789stdin: http://pastebin.com/m2bb721121:26
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trappistuh21:26
stdinbmk789: ok, do the same for kdebase-workspace-bin21:26
rakantrappist: thanks alot really21:27
terran4000stdin: I know. My apologies. "She" just really got under my skin. I'm not one to speak like that in public.21:27
rakantrappist: talk to you later on.... bye21:27
bmk789stdin: http://pastebin.com/m294cc71a21:27
stdinhmm21:28
terran4000NexaMac: okie oki21:28
terran4000*doki21:28
stdinbmk789: you're on gutsy yes?21:28
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bmk789yes, 64-bit if that makes a difference21:28
terran4000NexaMac: That is a odd resolution. Have you tried setting it manually in xorg.conf21:28
stdinbmk789: do you have gutsy-backports enabled?21:29
bmk789no, its commented out21:29
stdinbmk789: aright, on we go. see what error trying to install ksysguard-kde4 shows21:30
NexaMacterran4000: aye, to some degree21:31
bmk789stdin: http://pastebin.com/m1243faa621:31
NexaMacterran4000: ive added the resolution, but only as 1360x768 i didnt do that freaky stuff where i explain all the numbers if you know what i mean21:31
stdinbmk789: and on to libplasma1 now21:32
bmk789stdin: http://pastebin.com/d6b63f57321:32
stdinbmk789: well that's just, odd21:33
terran4000NexaMac: Can you paste-bin that xorg file ... well, the screen section part?21:33
bmk789stdin: maybe a dependancy issue will the 64-bit packages?21:34
NexaMacterran4000: right now theres nothing in it that isnt autogenerated 100% fresh install still updating :<21:34
lewixdo songs sound different on linux or its just an impression?21:35
stdinbmk789: possibly, try "sudo aptitude install kde4-core" aptitude is usually more verbose21:35
terran4000NexaMac: ah, alright. IM/tell/e-mail me when you're ready.21:35
nosrednaekimstdin: bmk789: BTW.... 64 bit works fine here..21:35
marx2k_lewix: linux changes the lyrics to include technical specifications of the MP3 or OGG compression mechanism21:35
marx2k_Youve never heard Britanny Spears until you've heard her discussing MP# loudness compression issues21:35
marx2k_MP321:35
bmk789stdin: http://pastebin.com/d343a48e021:36
lewixmarx2k, funny21:36
NexaMacterran4000: aim? is there a apt-get?21:37
lewixnah seriouslt it does sound different21:37
terran4000NexaMac: Kopete, gaim21:37
NexaMacah21:37
marx2k_lewix: probably just your sound settings :)21:37
stdinbmk789: try running "sudo apt-get update" again, see if that changes (you may have caught the archive at a bad moment)21:37
bmk789same :\21:38
bmk789wait21:39
bmk789not adept has updates again21:39
egorkis this a problem with konversation or am I doing something wrong. I can not connect to any other irc channe.21:40
nosrednaekimegork: type this in and hit enter "/join #compiz-fusion" without the quotes21:41
lewixmarx2k, its like it adds more base21:41
bmk789stdin: upgraded come postgresql/C package but same thing with kde4-core21:43
egorkI am still getting the same error: 22:43] [Error] Connection to Server #compiz-fusion lost: name lookup has failed. Trying to reconnect.21:43
NexaMacegork: did you type /server first? :>21:43
stdinegork: #compiz-fusion is a channel, not a server21:43
familyhow do you access the root terminal?21:44
nosrednaekimfamily: sudo -i21:44
egorkno I did not. could you help me with the whole sequence? I am a newby in regard to IRC21:44
NexaMacall you type is "/join #compiz-fusion"21:44
NexaMacor "/j compiz-fusion"21:44
stdinbmk789: what does "apt-cache policy kdebase-workspace" show?21:44
familysudo -i k21:44
familyoh beautiful21:45
wesleyhow can you install a font ? in kde421:45
egorkNexaMac: /j did it.21:45
bmk789stdin: http://pastebin.com/d152026b221:46
fizzzhow to start my kubuntu without the x server ?21:46
egorksomehow konversation is a bit non-user-friendly, 'cause I have to ask how to join a channel. What do you think?21:47
jpatrickegork: /join #channel21:47
bmk789egork: its the same in almost all IRC clients21:47
wesleyi got a ttf file how can i use the font ?21:48
fizzzhow to start my kubuntu without the x server ?21:48
NexaMackonversation is far from not userfriendly :/21:48
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stdinbmk789: that doesn't make sense to me, the dependencies it's showing aren't the same as what's in the packages...21:49
NexaMacwhy START it without the x server fizzz?21:49
nosrednaekimfizzz: put "nox" in the boot options21:49
egorkjpatrick: no, what you suggest planly does not work. The caveat is with the #. I can only join, if I do not use # infront of the channel21:49
bmk789stdin: want to see my sources.list?21:49
stdinbmk789: maybe that'd help21:49
NexaMacegork: then dont use it :|21:50
bmk789stdin: http://pastebin.com/d2f815f9e21:50
egorkNexaMac: hey, I have spent half an hour to figure this out. I have configured FIrefox to call konversation for irc:// but it did not do it for me.21:50
stdinegork: in konversation /join #channel works for me and every other user I've seen.21:50
blackflagare there kde 4.0 packages for kubuntu 7.10?21:51
fizzznox in boot opiton where that be ?21:51
egorkstdin: may be I am on another planet :-)21:51
iboui can' install libflashplayer.so on Konqueror21:51
iboui have a bug report21:51
NexaMac# work here as well21:51
nosrednaekimfizzz: press "e" on the grub menu21:51
stdinegork: best place to ask konversation questions is in #konversation21:51
nosrednaekimblackflag: yes21:51
stdinibou: see the topic21:51
egorkstdin: this is where I am heading now to :-)21:52
blackflagOn my topic I dont see  ahint to kde 4.0!21:52
fizzzok wherez this grub menu ?21:52
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iboustdin the topic is talking about the package. Im talking about the tarball from adobe website21:52
holycow!beryl21:52
ubotuBeryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz21:52
nosrednaekimfizzz: thats where you select what to boot21:53
NexaMacterran4000? :o21:53
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holycow!compiz21:53
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion21:53
terran4000NexaMac: hey.21:53
fizzzok and just hit the e key21:53
stdinibou: then what's the problem?21:53
NexaMacterran4000: im about ready now :<21:53
nosrednaekimfizzz: right and follow the help21:53
terran4000NexaMac: blogging in the research group, one sec.21:53
stdinwhyphy: please stop changing nicks21:53
NexaMacaight21:53
stdinbmk789: that looks fine21:53
fizzzk thankz21:53
whyphyhello guys i cant connect to the site https://help.ubuntu.com ... i have no idea why and i need some help with the installation of kubuntu21:54
iboustdin: i have a bug report when im trying it. I installed it by copying it in ~/.mozilla/plugins and installing the package konqueror-nsplugins  to detect it.21:55
jpatrickwhyphy: works here, mate21:55
mpshi, I'm a newbie ... is this the place to ask a quesiton about difficulties with upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10?21:55
iboustdin: konqueror is detecting it21:55
jpatrick!upgrade | mps21:56
NexaMacwhyphy: can you connect to other webpages?21:56
whyphyyes21:56
ubotumps: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes21:56
NexaMacwhyphy: then either ubuntu.forums.org or ask in here imo21:56
whyphyand i tried also to connect to other "https" sites and it connects fine21:57
mpsmy Distrubtion Upgrade screen has hung at 96% of Installing the upgrades.  It says "installed openoffice.org-ked21:57
stdinibou: still haven't seen what the problem is21:57
nosrednaekimmps: close the windows and run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" on the command line21:58
nosrednaekim*window21:58
whyphyok so.. i had windows installed and i wanted to install ubuntu also. i made the partitions, i finished the installation but now i think i have to install a boot loader.. the installation didn't prompt me to do so21:58
whyphynow when i restart the computer it goes imidiatelly on windows21:58
stdinbmk789: can you try disabling the repository, running "sudo apt-get update" then re-enabling it and running "sudo apt-get update" again21:58
whyphyat this point i am from the live cd21:58
NexaMacwhyphy: one HDD?21:59
NexaMacor several21:59
whyphyyes on a laptop21:59
whyphyone21:59
NexaMachmm21:59
NexaMactricky one then :O21:59
nosrednaekimwhyphy: reinstall, except do manual partitioning21:59
NexaMacsounds like what i would end up suggesting too21:59
bmk789ok22:00
whyphyi did manual partitioning22:00
mpsnosrednaekim: even though it advises strongly to not close?22:00
nosrednaekimmps: yes22:00
FaiDillinGercan someone please help about kbluetooth on gutsy ?? i cant send files from mobile phone to pc, but i can do the opposite22:00
whyphyshould i try it again?22:00
fizzzman i couldnt get it to do anything when i hit the e key just keeps loading kubuntu22:00
whyphyi did manual partitioning i selected the "/boot" and "/" partitions to be formated22:01
nosrednaekimfizzz: you press e before hitting enter22:01
nosrednaekimwhyphy: yes22:01
fizzzi didnt hit anything22:01
NexaMacFaiDillinGer: does the phone discover the pc?22:01
fizzzit just counted down22:01
fizzzafter i hit e22:01
iboustdin: signal 11 (SIGSEGV) with nspluginviewer22:01
NexaMacFaiDillinGer: is the pc set up to allow others to connect?22:01
mpsdpkg: error processing mfc8840dlpr (--configure):22:02
mps subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 12722:02
whyphybut... will it prompt me to install a boot loader?22:02
whyphyi mean should it?22:02
NexaMacwhyphy: it shouldnt22:02
terran4000NexaMac: sorry about that. Now where were we?22:02
nosrednaekimwhyphy: no, it shouldn't22:02
NexaMacgrub should be installed by default whyphy22:02
NexaMacterran4000: are you getting payed for this?22:02
NexaMacterran4000: then why say sorry?22:03
NexaMac:)22:03
mpsdpkg: error processing mfc8840dlpr (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)22:03
NexaMacclean xorg.conf, need to add 1360x76822:03
terran4000NexaMac: I'm too kind for my own good.22:03
NexaMac;o22:03
stdinibou: yes, that's known22:03
FaiDillinGerNexaMac: i have no idea :(22:03
bmk789stdin: gives the same thing :\22:03
NexaMacFaiDillinGer: good boy :p22:03
iboustdin: the bug report lead me to think that the bug is from konqueror-nsplugins...22:03
FaiDillinGerNexaMac: but yes, the phone discovers the pc22:03
stdinibou: the bug is actually in flash22:04
iboustdin: what do you mean by : "yes, that's known" ?22:04
stdinibou: it means that's a known issue already22:04
ibou!flash22:04
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash22:04
ubotuThe Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.22:04
nexamacfor the love of..22:04
terran4000nexamac: welcome back: http://pastebin.com/m43709b7122:04
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NexaMac:<22:05
iboustdin:  i can see it on the !flash topic ?22:05
stdinibou: that's another issue altogether22:05
Zombocom!flash22:05
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash22:05
ubotuThe Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.22:05
Zombocomlol22:05
iboustdin:  where to learn about my issue ?22:05
Zombocombecause he says !gnash22:05
terran4000NexaMac: well, I'm not 100% sure about the DefaultDepth part (if it's needed or not). But that should work as you need it to.22:06
stdinibou: search on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu and http://bugs.kde.org22:06
iboustdin:  ok thanks22:06
iboustdin: but do you know a way to fix it ?22:07
iboustdin:  becaus since i'm french i fight to find things on english forums...22:07
stdinibou: I believe the issue is with the flash plugin itself, not actually with nspluginviewer. the only "fix" would be some workaround in the code of nspluginviewer22:08
stdinibou: there's nothing you can do about it for now, except use another browser22:08
iboustdin: yes that's what im thinkint too. I hope the fix will come soon22:08
iboustdin: thanks22:09
stdinno problem22:09
NexaMacterran4000: set the resolution to 1024x768 :/22:09
NexaMacthats 246 pixels in width less then i want :<22:10
NexaMacerr22:10
NexaMac34622:10
NexaMacgah22:10
NexaMacnvm22:10
NexaMacits less :p22:10
terran4000NexaMac: haha.22:10
FaiDillinGerroger that22:10
terran4000NexaMac: well, I also know that xga won't get you HD22:10
NexaMacno but it works pretty well with winlol xp22:11
NexaMac*awaits the ban*22:11
terran4000NexaMac: Don't worry. They'd probably use the hammer on me way before on you.22:11
NexaMac:p22:11
whyphycan i check somehow if grub is already installed?22:12
hdevalenceI'm having problems with samba22:12
fizzzi still couldnt get it to work man hit the e ley and enter before it counted down22:12
hdevalenceit gives me "Unable to find any workgroups in your local network. This might be caused by an enabled firewall."22:12
NexaMacwhyphy: load up a livecd, check the root for /boot/grub22:12
hdevalencebut it workde befor and I din't change anything22:12
NexaMacterran4000: i forgot to mention, theres 2 monitors currently hooked up :>22:12
hdevalenceerr worked before; didn't22:12
terran4000NexaMac: Two monitors AND a HDTV? o.O22:13
NexaMacnono22:13
NexaMacHDTV and a monitor22:13
terran4000Ah22:13
NexaMacand a macbook between ;| and several behind me if you wish to know :P22:13
icewatermani am looking for a software to secure my usb stick. it has to work both on linux and windows and should not require administrative privileges because i might not have those privileges wherever i go and want to use that stick22:13
hdevalenceicewaterman: check out truecrypt22:14
icewatermanhdevalence: requires admin privileges22:14
fizzztrying to start my kubuntu with loading the x server any ideas ??22:14
icewatermanpretty much every application that gives you virtual drives does.22:14
NexaMacstartx22:14
hdevalenceicewaterman: what about creating an unencryped FAT32 partition and put the encrypted volume as a file there?22:15
fizzztrying to start my kubuntu without  loading the x server any ideas ??22:15
hdevalencewouldn't that let the automounter do the work?22:15
terran4000NexaMac: so, it currently the monitor/hd setup works?22:15
icewatermanhdevalence: the point is all about you need to be admin to load the drivers.22:15
indystormhey is there an easy way to install apps in kubuntu?22:16
icewatermanfor the virtual drive that is. while this is an elegant solution if you have admin privileges it is a painful one if you do not.22:16
stdin!adept | indystorm22:16
ubotuindystorm: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto22:16
bmk789stdin: give up?22:16
hdevalenceicewaterman: ie the issue is that you won't have tc installed on any box?22:16
nexamacholy cake that one is getting old22:17
nexamacwts backspace key22:17
stdinbmk789: I really can't see why that's happening, I have a gutsy system and can install from scratch (just tested)22:17
icewatermanhdevalence: both that and i do not have privileges to install truecrypt  (i.e. at university)22:17
hdevalenceicewaterman: what about including a binary that you can run as a user?22:17
nexamacfizzz: im not registered22:17
icewatermanhdevalence: and truecrypt traveller mode requires admin privileges in order to USE it22:17
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fizzztrying to get my linux to run with out the x server22:18
fizzzso i can install my video drivers22:18
hdevalenceicewaterman: tbh, I'm not a tc expert.22:18
bmk789stdin: would ssh access help?22:18
NexaMacfizzz: can you get into x?22:18
Zombocommy friend's computer when he boots it up22:18
Zombocomtries looking up drivers online or something22:18
NexaMacif so, just ctrl+alt+F1 and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop22:19
NexaMackdm*22:19
whyphyi am in with the Kubuntu live cd, i mounted my boot partition to /mnt/sda3 and i checked that no grub is installed22:19
hdevalenceicewaterman: perhaps ask on the tc irc channel or on their mailinglist22:19
whyphyor lilo... how can i install one?22:19
NexaMacwhyphy: man grub :x22:19
icewatermanhdevalence: i know truecrypt, and i know it is not going to be a solution for my problem because of the way it works22:19
icewatermanthats why i do not need help with tc at all22:19
stdinbmk789: probably not (and it's not a great idea to give ssh access to strangers ;). I don't know why it's acting like that, but the packages will eventually all be in gutsy-backports to you could just wait, or try the liveCD22:20
indystormok so I am using adept. but I already have a program I want to run.... it's adobe flash, but it says I need netscape navigator... I tried to download netscape and it isn't listed with adept. Does that mean its not supported with ubuntu?22:20
bmk789ok22:20
hdevalenceicewaterman: oh, i see.22:20
stdinindystorm: you install the flash package from adept22:21
NexaMacindystorm: it means netscape is oldschool :>22:21
hdevalenceicewaterman: perhaps they might be able to point you towards another product.22:21
NexaMactry netscape.com or something :/22:21
whyphyok for installing grub from a livecd should a changeroot?22:22
icewatermanhdevalence: afaik there is no tc channel at all22:22
icewatermanbut i might be wrong about that.22:22
DreadKnightkonqueror acts as a ftp client too right?22:24
stdindoesn't "act", it is :)22:25
TimSI have installed PHPMyAdmin but I dont know how to accesss it, what port is it on?22:25
demetriohello22:25
DreadKnightgood..22:25
terran4000NexaMac: You know where to find me if you need me. I'll be around doing some work.22:26
demetriosomeone can explain to me why konqueroro cannot go out to internet?22:26
DreadKnightstdin: how do i connect? i've got an address, an user and a passwork? i go to the address and then i'm prompted to insert user/pass?22:27
TimS!PHPMyAdmin22:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about phpmyadmin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:27
DreadKnightd*22:27
NexaMacterran4000: aye, thanks again for your time, gonna go relax and play some games, later :)22:28
terran4000NexaMac: cheers.22:28
DreadKnight!ftp22:28
ubotuFTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd22:28
fizzzcan somebody give me some help22:28
stdinDreadKnight: depends on the settings of the server, if it accepts anonymous connections. konqueror will try that first22:28
NexaMacdemetrio: try firefox, if that doesnt work either, specifiy your network card22:29
DreadKnightstdin: and if not ? is there a 'format' i should introduce all the data in the address bar?22:29
demetrioNexaMac: yes firefox work fine i have problem with konqueror22:29
stdinDreadKnight: you can just do ftp://username:password@hostname/ to force a username/password, if you just do ftp://username@hostname/ then it will prompt for a password22:29
NexaMacdemetrio: sudo apt-get remove konqueror :P22:30
NexaMacrefuses to work here too for some reason :/22:30
DreadKnightstdin: that sounds reasonable, thanks22:30
dettoaltrimentihi- im running kubuntu gutsy, and flash video runs extremely slow- I am running adobe flash 9, is there a way to downgrade to adobe 8 or are there any other options for me to change?22:30
theperryfamilyNeed help with USB HD mount issues in Kubuntu 7.10 with VirtualBox22:31
fizzzneed help installing nvidia drivers it says that i am running x server and it can not install while its running any ideas22:32
dettoaltrimentifizzz you could restart into the console and do it frmo the command line22:34
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DoYouKnowhi. I installed kde 4.0 and plasma crashes frequently22:37
DoYouKnowwhat am I doing wrong?22:37
DoYouKnowoh22:37
DoYouKnowwrong chan22:37
fizzzneed help installing nvidia drivers it says that i am running x server and it can not install while its running any ideas22:41
mattrperryneed help with USB HD disappearing in kubuntu 7.1022:42
marx2k_mattperry: What do you mean by disappearing?22:43
FaiDillinGerwhere is ktorrent installed please ?? in which flder ?22:44
jpatrickFaiDillinGer: many places22:45
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MadSquirrelKingis there a way to get my kubuntu machine to route? (eg broadcast a WEP internet connection)22:46
mattrperryit will be mounted and working fine...then I run Virtualbox with XP guest...the USB drive will unmount in Kubuntu (host) and mount in XP (guest) and will work fine in XP (guest)...when I send the shutdown from within the XP (guest) it will shutdown and close virtualbox...but then the usb drive does not re-mount in the Kubuntu (host) unless I either unplug it and plug it back in, turn off the power to the drive and back on, or reboot the k22:47
MadSquirrelKingany 1 have an idea as to how?22:47
mjwildHi can some one tell me how I can create a DVD movie with a .AVI. I could do it with Windows and use nero, but can not get it right with K3B22:48
MadSquirrelKingdoes any one know how to make a kubuntu router? (the computer is a hp tablet, and i want to make it broadcasst a WEP connection)22:49
julkiehey hi22:49
julkiei have a problem with kopete22:50
jpatrickjulkie: what's up?22:50
MadSquirrelKingwhats the problem?22:50
julkiei just intalled kde4 with the repos in the kubuntu page22:50
julkieand kopete just no connect to msn22:51
julkiehe dont say nothing....22:51
julkiejust no conect silently22:51
MadSquirrelKingyou sure you have all of the right details entered in? If you do, check to see if kopete is updatable. Othere than that i cant help. :P22:52
julkieahhaha22:52
julkieno no kopete updates are aviables22:52
MadSquirrelKinghmmm...... :(22:52
julkiebut there are other updates22:52
MadSquirrelKinginstall them.22:52
jpatrickjulkie: msn works fine here...22:52
julkieand im downloadin de updates22:52
julkiejpatrik but kde4's kopete?22:53
jpatrickjulkie: yes22:53
MadSquirrelKingdoes any 1 know how to set up a kubuntu router? (eg make it broadcast a WEP eesid)22:53
jpatrickif anyone's having troble with Kopete KDE4's Jabber please install libqca2-plugin-ossl from the PPA22:54
MadSquirrelKingi need to set up a home network, but i HATE windows22:54
julkieummm i hope when my updates finish the instalation he works fine22:54
MadSquirrelKingshould. :)22:54
oldude67i have simple question, i downloaded kde4 iso does that come as a whole distro of just kde4?22:54
jpatrick!kde422:55
ubotuKDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde422:55
pyrotixgah, does anyone know how to use fill patterns in krita?22:55
oldude67i know where its at22:55
MadSquirrelKingno, sry22:55
WorkingOnWisekinda general question...has anyone used evolution and kontact enough reasonably say what the weaknesses are compared to the other?22:55
rakanHello22:57
rakani installed Dekorator but it aint showing up on menu22:57
pyrotixgah, does anyone know how to use fill patterns in krita?23:01
kerncoI'm trying to install KDE 4.  I added the repositories to the sources.list, but then I try to run "sudo apt-get install kde4-core" and I get unmet dependency errors.23:12
kerncoDepends "kdebase-kde4 kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime kdelibs5 kdepimlibs"23:13
kerncoBut if I try to install those manually, I just get more unmet dependencies23:14
FaiDillinGerwhat games can i play on linux ?23:17
Kohlrabicheck www.happypenguin.org23:17
Kohlrabior, check www.winehq.org for a list of Windows games working in wine23:17
FaiDillinGerthx23:17
Kohlrabion winehq, heck the AppDB23:18
Rominahi23:18
Rominahow can the K-Menu of a certain user be copied from one user account to an other one?23:19
Rominauser XY edited his K-Menu,  added some new structure and some new programs .... I would like to copy this edited menu to other user accounts too23:20
RadiantFireRomina: things are stored in .local/share/applications I believe23:20
RadiantFireRomina: something like that23:20
RadiantFireRomina: the xml in a set of files around there are merged with the system wide menu23:20
goaliecawhat are the kde4 ~ppa1 changes23:21
RominaRadiantFire, thank you,  I will search for it there23:22
Rominais there a KDE4 backport for  Kubuntu 7.04 ?23:22
goaliecaRomina, there is ... one sec23:25
goaliecadeb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu gutsy main23:26
goaliecabut.. what i'm wondering is what changes tehre were today... everything was labelled ppa123:26
goaliecai don't see anything else in there23:26
SportGuygoalieca: my precious...23:26
goaliecakde4 isn't ready to use as a desktop even for the bleeding23:28
goaliecathe apps are good. okular works pretty nice23:28
Dragnslcrgoalieca- gutsy is 7.10, not 7.0423:28
goaliecaoh. heh. didn't notice23:29
Rominagoalieca: thank you but I am using 7.0423:32
Rominanot 7.1023:32
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fizzzanybody here help login as root ?23:39
fizzzhrlp me23:39
poison--press ESC while booting23:40
WorkingOnWisefizzz: you don't log in as root in Kubuntu. YOU do admin stuff with sudo23:40
Tarinhow long to wait for my nick to be registered23:43
ubuntu__hello23:44
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simon___Hi. I don't really udnerstand what this sentence means "To avoid having to start a second X server for a full session install xserver-xephyr and run Xephyr :1 & export DISPLAY=:1; xterm and run startkde in the Xerphyr xterm." from: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-kde-40-stable-in-ubuntu-gutsy.html23:47
simon___thx for help23:47
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acorn_yo guys so i got kubuntu and im wanting to change the appearance..for instance... font size, color..23:47
simon___can someone explain it to me?23:47
acorn_anyone direct me where to go? i can figure out the rest23:47
simon___in plain english...23:48
basculeanybody else get this http://rafb.net/p/AyjCId39.html I tried this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4126834 to no avail23:48
psycho_____acorn_: maybe go to kde control panel23:48
acorn_where do i go to get to control panel?23:48
acorn_i was using ubuntu before and this much diff23:48
acorn_>_>23:48
psycho_____acorn_: the main button on your bottom-left23:49
basculecrazy thing is I did a friend an ubuntu isntall yesterday, all his effect work fine23:49
psycho_____acorn_: and then look at control panel from the list23:49
Tarinhow long to wait for my nick to be registered23:50
basculeimmediate23:50
simon___noone here that can explain the above pasted sentence?23:51
psycho_____simon___: thank you23:51
FaiDillinGeris there something like compiz for kubuntu ? or is it only for gnome desktops ?23:52
FaiDillinGer!compiz23:52
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion23:52
FaiDillinGerok sorry23:52
Tarinbascule here is the prob tho. i keep trying to set my email for my nick and it tells me to register my nick first23:53
Tarini have registered my nick already and it still comes back not registered23:54
psycho_____Tarin: /msg nickserv register nick password if my memory serves me right23:54
basculeTarin: /j #freenode, wait till you are voiced, ask them :)23:54
psycho_____Tarin: /msg nickserv register password to register your nick23:55
Tarinyeah i did that but it gives me a message not to use register again for 120 seconds23:56
simon___psycho_____: what does it mean and what does it do?23:56
psycho_____Tarin: wait 120 seconds and try that again23:56
caspercasperdoes anyone in here have experience with the ode45 solver in matlab?23:56
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Tarinok working now23:57
psycho_____Tarin: good23:57
Tarinok new question23:58
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Tarinanyone know how to create a new server?23:58
psycho_____Tarin: no thanks for psycho_____ ?23:58
Tarinsorry man and thanks23:58
Tarinforgot my chat manners for a sec23:59
psycho_____Tarin: yw23:59
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penosoops23:59

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