[00:00] <Silouck> NickPresta: and apt-cache its only for installed packages, man, learn
[00:00] <Silouck> wnat a troll
[00:00] <stdin> Silouck: no it's not
[00:01] <NickPresta> Silouck, you came to this channel asking for help. I am trying to help you and you're not listening or being co-operative. If you want my help, fine, but try to be more polite as you're the one who obviously needs help.
[00:03] <Silouck> ]# LC_ALL=C apt-cache showpkg libk3b2-extracodecs_1.0.4-2ubuntu1~gutsy1_i386.deb
[00:03] <Silouck> W: Unable to locate package libk3b2-extracodecs_1.0.4-2ubuntu1~gutsy1_i386.deb
[00:03] <Silouck> like i said, the package inst installed
[00:03] <stdin> Silouck: libk3b2-extracodecs is the package "libk3b2-extracodecs_1.0.4-2ubuntu1~gutsy1_i386.deb" is the FILE
[00:03] <NickPresta> If you have it in a deb archive format, you can use `dpkg --info PACKAGE.deb`. You never said the package was in a deb file. :)
[00:04] <pfein> w00t, IRC 4 teh w1n!
[00:04] <NickPresta> and yes, that package is available in the repos. apt-cache depends works
[00:05] <NickPresta> pfein, sorry about the delay. Yes, you can mix and match resolutions and physical monitor sizees. I use KDE with Compiz-Fusion.
[00:05] <pfein> NickPresta: np... thx
[00:06] <pfein> NickPresta: any preference b/w ATI vs. Intel video chipset for dual head?  Looking @ dells...
[00:07] <biovore> intel works.. ati sometimes work.
[00:07] <NickPresta> pfein, I like to stay away from ATI. I would imagine nvidia > intel > ati, although I'm not really sure on the subject as I've only ever had nvidia :)
[00:08] <biovore> dell does do nvidia..  Its worth it in my option..
[00:09] <biovore> if your going to be running linux on the thing..
[00:09] <NickPresta> indeed. I've never had a problem with nvidia GPUs
[00:09] <biovore> well nvidia's been doing linux for around 8 years now..
[00:09] <biovore> They got it down..
[00:10] <pfein> hmm, ok... and basically you get a dvi2vga dongle & run both lcd's off vga?
[00:10] <NickPresta> pfein, I run both via DVI :)
[00:10] <biovore> mine nvidia card on my dell laptop here has DVI out..
[00:10] <NickPresta> pfein, but your method would work too, I believe
[00:11] <biovore> yeah.. DVI works better.. vga (analog) can't drive 2 lcd's
[00:11] <pfein> y'all have 2 DVI outs?
[00:11] <pfein> or 2 cards?
[00:11] <biovore> one dvi
[00:11] <NickPresta> pfein, my 7900 GS has two DVI outputs.
[00:11]  * pfein is confused
[00:12] <biovore> laptop nvidia card will only support 1 monitor external monitor
[00:12] <pfein> biovore: you can run 2 LCDs off one DVI out?
[00:12] <pfein> OIC
[00:12] <pfein> sry
[00:12] <NickPresta> pfein, I don't have a laptop. I am running a Desktop. Laptops traditionally only have one out, as biovore said
[00:12] <pfein> yeah, I'm caught up now. ;-)
[00:13] <bedpan> I heard something about ubuntu that shocked the hell out of me
[00:13] <bedpan> does this apply to Kubuntu also?
[00:13] <biovore> probably..
[00:13] <NickPresta> bedpan, tell us what you heard and we will tell you :)
[00:13]  * pfein still needs to figure out wth to get tho..
[00:13] <bedpan> ok  this is what I ran across in google
[00:13] <bedpan> MARK SHUTTLEWORTH AND CANONICAL ANNOUNCE LINUX FOR NIGGERS
[00:13] <bedpan> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
[00:13] <bedpan> ISLE OF MAN - June 1, 2006 - At a press conference today, Canonical CEO and Free Software spokesnigger Mark Shuttleworth announced the immediate availability of version 6.06 of the Ubuntu Linux distribution. The latest version, known by its code name, "The Diaper Drake," includes special features designed to make Linux easier and more comfortable for niggers the world over.
[00:13] <bedpan> "Niggers have always had trouble understanding new technology," Shuttleworth began. "Computers are no exception. Some people have said this is because niggers are dumb, but I believe the real problem is that technology has traditionally been designed for white people. Ubuntu changes all that. It was developed from the ground up with niggers in mind. It will usher in a whole new era of Afro-ergonomic computing."
[00:13] <bedpan> Shuttleworth presented an overview of some of the features users could expect in the latest version of Ubuntu, including an Ebonics-to-English converter, African "tribal beats" sound and desktop theme, and a collection of rap music and gay pornography, "which of course will be encoded using patent and royalty-free formats," Shuttleworth added, smiling. He proceeded to elaborate, but OpenOffice.org Impress crashed at that poin
[00:14] <Alamue> What is a good P2P client for Kubuntu?
[00:14] <NickPresta> sigh
[00:14] <NickPresta> !frostwire | Alamue
[00:14] <ubotu> Alamue: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[00:14] <crimsun> c'mon, you have to chuckle at how desperate some people have gotten.
[00:14] <Alamue> Thank you. Is it in the repositories?
[00:14] <biovore> yeah.. I agree crimsun
[00:15] <NickPresta> Alamue, nope. http://www.frostwire.com/?id=downloads
[00:15] <Alamue> Ok, thank you very much.
[00:15] <NickPresta> no problem
[00:16] <Darktan_> having trouble with an external USB hard drive kit
[00:17] <Darktan_> it see it as a 59gb USB jumpdrive and says "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000"
[00:19] <inversekinetix> wow, racism in here?
[00:19] <crimsun> inversekinetix: trolling, rather.
[00:20] <inversekinetix> are there no ops?
[00:20]  * Darktan_ is confused
[00:20] <Darktan_> did i miss something?
[00:20] <crimsun> there are; the above instance was already addressed.
[00:20] <LjL> inversekinetix: you noticed he was banned 11 seconds after he started, didn't you?
[00:20] <NickPresta> Darktan_, what I would suggest, is that you manually unmount the HD, and then try to remount it with default options. See if that makes a difference
[00:20] <NickPresta> Darktan_, do you need help to do that?
[00:21] <Darktan_> one thing, it's not a normal ext HDD it uses internal IDE drives to make an ext drive
[00:21] <Darktan_> nah, i can do that
[00:21] <Darktan_> i think...
[00:21] <NickPresta> Darktan_, okay. I don't know if it will help, but it is probably a good place to start
[00:21] <inversekinetix> i didnt no
[00:21] <Darktan_> gonna try it
[00:22] <inversekinetix> being as i get no help in ubuntu otherr than to consider using windows, maybe someone here could help,
[00:22] <inversekinetix> 1.  why would ubuntu suddenly stop showing an NTFS drive
[00:23] <Darktan_> lost mounting
[00:24] <Darktan_> had all kinds of problem with that when i first started with linuk
[00:24] <NickPresta> inversekinetix, what do you mean "suddenly"? It stop showing the mounted drive after you used it? It stop showing the drive after a restart?
[00:24] <inversekinetix> NickPresta: yes
[00:24] <NickPresta> inversekinetix, which one?
[00:24] <inversekinetix> there are 4 drives
[00:25] <Darktan_> woot, thx nickpresta, got it working
[00:25] <NickPresta> Darktan_, did remounting with default options work?
[00:25] <inversekinetix> my mistake, if fails to show one of the NTFS partition on one of the drives, it detects the rest fine, but the one with windows on doesnt show
[00:26] <Darktan_> iat first it would let me do anything, i gave it a new mount point then it wouldn't enable, i cursed at it, went to system media and it works now
[00:26] <NickPresta> inversekinetix, hmm. I don't know what would cause that. What does your fstab look like? (you can !pastebin it)
[00:26] <NickPresta> Darktan_, congrats.
[00:26] <Darktan_> thx
[00:26] <inversekinetix> whats the command for it
[00:27] <Darktan_> i had the same problem, had to allow all users to mount and enable mount on start up from the "file and disk" setting under system settings
[00:27] <NickPresta> inversekinetix, `EDITOR /etc/fstab` where EDITOR is pico, nano, kate, what ever the editor is default in Ubuntu
[00:29] <inversekinetix> NickPresta: thanks, i think Im just going to have to use windows for the time being, I dont have time to try and get this working right, there are too many things wrong.  sorry to waste you time and thanks.
[00:29] <NickPresta> inversekinetix, it's okay. good luck.
[00:30] <Darktan_> why does dolphin want to chage permissions every time i copy a music file?
[00:30] <silouck> i have runned adpet to install libk3b2-extracodecs but this package doesnt appear
[00:30] <Darktan_> and why does it tell be a hundred freaking times it failed on every file?
[00:31] <NickPresta> Darktan_, would that be the window that pops up about a permission error in a bookmarks.xml file?
[00:31] <NickPresta> silouck, what did you do to install that package?
[00:32] <silouck> did i said i run adept_
[00:32] <Darktan_> no, every mp3, wav, wma, m4a, mp4, and ogg file
[00:32] <silouck> seams i need to add another repo
[00:33] <Darktan_> well, i'll worry about it later, right now dinner calls, thanks again for the help
[00:33] <Odd-rationale> How do I enable "roaming" in the knetworkmanager?
[00:33] <silouck> i did activated the repo for restricted software but it continues to not appear libk3b2-extracodecs!
[00:34] <silouck> in what repo the libk3b2-extracodecs exists_
[00:34] <Dagon> I have an external hard drive mounted  in a USB case. It mounts ok, but when I try to access the drive I get an error message hal refused  uid storage. How do I read the the drive
[00:34] <ForzaPalermo> hey guys i downloaded kde 4.0, but now i want to use it as my primary gui, how can i uninstall kde 3.5 completely, and have kde start up as my primary session?
[00:34] <NickPresta> silouck, http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy-backports/libs/libk3b2-extracodecs go down to the bottom and download the DEB file for your architecture. Then, in a terminal, type: sudo dpkg -i FILE
[00:35] <NickPresta> silouck, if that doesn't work, !pastebin the output.
[00:35] <Odd-rationale> ForzaPalermo: Can you select kde 4.0 as your default session?
[00:35] <ForzaPalermo> Odd-rationale, no, the only way i can select it is from the sign on screen
[00:35] <vzduch> NickPresta: if it's in the backports, why not add the repo and apt-get install?
[00:35] <NickPresta> ForzaPalermo, ask in #kubuntu-kde4. They should be able to tell you how to get a fully KDE 4.0 system
[00:36] <NickPresta> vzduch, you can, if you want (I do) but for a single package, it is suggested you download the deb. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#head-7da053a820e7f163090900a26ed8cbf839c2b185
[00:36] <ForzaPalermo> im asking everywhere
[00:36] <ForzaPalermo> no one has given me an answer yet :(
[00:37] <NickPresta> ForzaPalermo, well, be patient. I'm sure you will get an answer soon.
[00:39] <Datalanche> Is there an Applet I can get somewhere to have a custom list of programs in a spanning tree fashion? The Quick Launcher is taking up a bit too much room.
[00:39] <Odd-rationale> Is there a way to show a list of available wireless network connections in knetworkmanager applet?
[00:41] <jac0b> when you build amarok from source for mp4 tag purposes do what do I have to put on the ./configure line
[00:41] <NickPresta> Datalanche, have you ever heard of Katapult?
[00:41] <NickPresta> jac0b, try a ./configure --help and see what it mentions about mp4
[00:41] <NickPresta> jac0b, or ask in #amarok
[00:41] <jac0b> ok thnaks
[00:41] <jac0b> or that is even better
[00:42] <Datalanche> NickPresta: umm.. the name rings a bell but I don't think I've used it
[00:43] <NickPresta> Datalanche, check it out. It takes up no (physical) space. http://katapult.kde.org/ It is different, but you might like it.
[00:43] <Datalanche> I'll check it out. Thanks :)
[00:45] <Odd-rationale> How can I scan for a list of available wireless networks? Thanks!
[00:46] <matt___> i installed "kdebase" within ubuntu, and now i'm using it. however, i could be wrong, but it seems as if external drives aren't being deteted/mounted. not 100% sure, but just wondering if there is something/way to install/check
[00:46] <Datalanche> Cool... Katapult is just what I needed! :)
[00:47] <matt___> Datalanche: katapult is the coolest thing ever, check out yakuake as well
[00:47] <NickPresta> Odd-rationale, I don't know much about wireless and Kubuntu anymore. Check out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo#head-5f526a24e75c1923c77ce8f801da484716ea1b4e and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[00:48] <ForzaPalermo> what package do i download in the kubuntu repositories to get everything i would need for kde 4
[00:48] <corinth> matt___: What is katapult?
[00:48] <silouck> NickPresta: i have installed that packaged and it continues not being possible to add some mp3 files to audio cds, see the error>
[00:48] <silouck> Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format:
[00:48] <silouck> You may manually convert these audio files to wave using another application supporting the audio format and then add the wave files to the K3b project.
[00:48] <Datalanche> !info katapult
[00:48] <ubotu> katapult: item launcher for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.2.1-2 (gutsy), package size 419 kB, installed size 3152 kB
[00:48] <NickPresta> ForzaPalermo, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php and ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[00:48] <matt___> corinth: it is a program starter, install it, run it, then hit alt+spacebar to find out. it's amazing
[00:48] <matt___> corinth: it is much like quicksilver for macs
[00:49] <silouck> so its all a lie about what i heard about kubutun fixing this prob that also exists in other distros
[00:49] <Odd-rationale> NickPresta: I'll look into that. thanks!
[00:50] <Datalanche> Awesome... plenty of space in my panel now :)
[00:51] <NickPresta> silouck, try this: apt-get install libmad0
[00:51] <NickPresta> silouck, sudo apt-get install libmad0
[00:51] <silouck> NickPresta: if course that libmad is installed, cause its a required library
[00:51] <silouck> of course
[00:52] <silouck> You may manually convert these audio files to wave using another application supporting the audio format and then add the wave files to the K3b project.
[00:52] <silouck> /mnt/ext3/Downloads/Musica/06 Metallica -- S & M/CD-1/06 METALLICA-fuel.MP3
[00:53] <NickPresta> silouck, I realize that the extracodecs package you're trying to install replaces libk3b2-mp3 but according to the Google'ing I've done, you should have libk3b2-mp3 installed and then when you start up K3b, click on "New Audio CD Project" drag your files, and click on Burn and it should work.
[00:54] <silouck> all those are installed
[00:54] <silouck> i really thought that would be very strnage for kubuntu fix this when mandriva that is a super distro wouldnt
[00:57] <biovore> silouck: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:57] <NickPresta> silouck, so let me understand you. You selected, "New Audio CD Project", and dragged your MP3 files to the project area. You then clicked on "burn" and it didn't work?
[01:03] <silouck> NickPresta: when draggin this mp3 files outputs that message, but only for these mp3, it all goes fine with other mp3 files
[01:04] <silouck> but all this hapens also in super distro mandriva
[01:04] <silouck> well my doubts were clarified
[01:04] <NickPresta> silouck, so it only happens with those specific MP3s?
[01:04] <LowlyNewbie> Hello, can someone help me setup my wifi?  I just installed Kubuntu for my first time
[01:04] <NickPresta> !wifi | LowlyNewbie
[01:04] <ubotu> LowlyNewbie: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:07] <trophyhead> in kubuntu's kmix the sound is set to default & 44100hz, but I believe my sound cards 32 bit, & kmix option is either (16bit) very high or (8bitlow) & default, what would any suggest I set it to, so I get the best sound quailty?
[01:07] <Kouen> hi everyone
[01:07] <NickPresta> LowlyNewbie, congrats. on installing Kubuntu for your first time. I hope you enjoy your Kubuntu experience. Your first step is finding out if your card is supported. If it is supported, you need to figure out if you need to use ndiswrapper or if it is supported natively. From there, there are specific instructions to setup your card.
[01:07] <NickPresta> hi Kouen
[01:08] <Kouen> hey i never been on ubuntu channel but when i tried to enter the channel it' says unable to enter address is banned....
[01:08] <NickPresta> Kouen, when you try to /join #ubuntu?
[01:09] <Kouen> yes
[01:09] <NickPresta> !banned | Kouen
[01:09] <ubotu> Kouen: If you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable behaviour. If you're not sure what acceptable behaviour is please see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[01:09] <LjL> Kouen: ask in #ubuntu-ops
[01:09] <Kouen> i never been at ubuntu channel in my life....
[01:09] <NickPresta> Kouen, join #ubuntu-ops and explain your situation to them
[01:09] <Kouen> just now that i want to enter...
[01:09] <NickPresta> LjL beat me to it :)
[01:10] <Kouen> thanks
[01:11] <trophyhead> any idea's plz with my kmix question?
[01:11] <biovore> what sound card?
[01:11] <NickPresta> trophyhead, I can only imagine that putting all your settings to the highest value would deliver the best quality.
[01:12] <trophyhead> k but would default be higher than the 16 bit (veryhigh) setting?
[01:13] <biovore> trophyhead: creative sounds card?
[01:13] <LowlyNewbie> YAY IT WORKED Thank you documentation
[01:13] <trophyhead> naw a chepie c-media
[01:13] <biovore> that card probably only has 16bit DAC on it..
[01:13] <NickPresta> LowlyNewbie, congrats. *buntu has a lot of helpful documentation. I'm sure it won't be the last time it helps you.
[01:14] <andrew__> anyone on this channel know anything about ubuntu?
[01:14] <trophyhead> tho it is supposed 32bit , ill have to make sure, probably only 16
[01:14] <Odd-rationale> OK. I'm connected to the internet, but konqueror won't connect to any website. Any ideas?
[01:15] <LowlyNewbie> now if someone could tell me why OR point me where I can find out why my computer does not startup normally (I have to go to recovery mode then do startx) then Kubuntu starts up
[01:15] <NickPresta> andrew__, join #ubuntu
[01:15] <trophyhead> thx anyhoo bio\
[01:15] <biovore> trophyhead: probably the same thing as audigy pulls.. they say 24bit.. but its only has a 16bit dac on the card..
[01:15] <andrew__> thanks
[01:15] <NickPresta> LowlyNewbie, that is strange indeed. Do you get any output or error messages when starting Kubuntu normally?
[01:15] <trophyhead> oh  ok its a cheap 15$ card so ya probably 16 bit
[01:16] <tinin> Hey, how do I acces to krunner in kde4?
[01:16] <LowlyNewbie> No I don't NickPresta.  The screen just goes blank?
[01:16] <NickPresta> !kde4 | tinin
[01:16] <ubotu> tinin: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[01:16] <tinin> thanx
[01:17] <NickPresta> LowlyNewbie, I don't know what is different about the recovery mode versus the "normal" mode so I'm not sure where to start in identifying the problem. If you ask again a little later, someone may be available who can help.
[01:18] <LowlyNewbie> Thanks NickPresta I appreciate it
[01:23] <NexaMac> stupid shift-backspace :<
[01:34] <spiniker> anybody knows how to enable skydome?
[01:34] <jckffyi> how do you delete a directory from a terminal, i keep getting cannot rm ... it is a directory
[01:35] <kadam> jckffyi: rmdir
[01:35] <NickPresta> jckffyi, rm -r. in the future, do `man rm` for information
[01:35] <NickPresta> or rmdir too
[01:35] <NickPresta> rmdir will remove empty directories
[01:35] <jckffyi> Thanks!
[01:38] <NexaMac> hmm
[01:38] <NexaMac> terminal cheat sheet in teh topic would be <3
[01:38] <pkh> hi, I have a simple question -- how do I reset the dialog that pops up asking what to do with a usb device (ipod in this case) -- I pressed 'ignore' and then 'remember' and now I want to reset this to at least ask...
[01:39] <trophyhead> ok I'm getting 2 things for my sound card so how many bits is it plz?  first it says supporting 24bit SPDIF in/out, then below it says 32bit pci bus master, so what is it? 24 bit, 32 bit? it is suppose to be able to put out 4 or 6 channel's, : )
[01:40] <NickPresta> NexaMac, http://linuxcommand.org/
[01:40] <NexaMac> NickPresta: i didnt need one, but theres a lot of questions :)
[01:41] <crimsun> trophyhead: the 32-bit portion is completely irrelevant
[01:41] <crimsun> trophyhead: it's a 32-bit bus that connects your audio card
[01:42] <crimsun> trophyhead: the 24-bit SPDIF is per-specification and is completely independent of that bus
[01:42] <NickPresta> pkh, go into System Settings > Notifications > Storage Media Notifications > the Medium Type, click on Do Nothing and then press Toggle as Auto action to remove it. That might work.
[01:42] <crimsun> trophyhead: also, whether your audio device has SPDIF or not has absolutely no bearing on the number of channels it can output
[01:43] <trophyhead> oh ok the pin connection eh, (32bit) just trying to get the most outta it hehe
[01:45] <NexaMac> :<
[01:45] <NexaMac> storage media in dolphin, gets stuck on loading :/
[01:45] <pierreth> hello, I just an install of Kubuntu but I have no sound...
[01:46] <NexaMac> pierreth: what kind of soundcard?
[01:46] <pierreth> NexaMac: I don't know...
[01:46] <NexaMac> pierreth: open a terminal and type lspci
[01:46] <pkh> NickPresta, perfect, thanks.
[01:47] <trophyhead> so I guess most cheapie soundcards like mine are 16bit?, but what do look for to find out?, im on a web page for it now : )
[01:47] <pierreth> NexaMac: Audio device: nVidia Corporation Unknown device
[01:47] <NexaMac> pierreth: laptop?
[01:47] <pierreth> No, a Tower
[01:47] <NexaMac> custom built?
[01:47] <pierreth> NexaMac: yes
[01:48] <crimsun> pierreth: please pastebin `lspci -nv`
[01:48] <NexaMac> :<
[01:48] <pierreth> crimsun: where?
[01:48] <crimsun> pierreth: using any pastebin.
[01:48] <NexaMac> type lspci -nv in a terminal
[01:48] <NexaMac> then paste it at www.pastebin.com
[01:48] <pierreth> ok
[01:49] <NexaMac> stupid grub :<
[01:49] <pierreth> http://pastebin.com/d1fb40ed
[01:49] <NexaMac> error 17 ftl
[01:50] <pierreth> I have a EVGA e-7100/630i mother board with integrated audio and graphics
[01:51] <NexaMac> a tad more helpfull tbh
[01:51] <mefisto__> could someone try opening a web image in gimp (from File > Open Location...) It doesn't seem to work any more
[01:51] <crimsun> pierreth: that's not `lspci -nv`
[01:51] <arrrghhh> so kde4 is very pretty... but it seems they took a lot of the configuration options out
[01:51] <pierreth> oups....
[01:51] <arrrghhh> like when i right click on stuff on the bar at the bottom, they took like all the options out
[01:51] <pierreth> sorry, try again...
[01:52] <mefisto__> arrrghhh: I think it's just not finished yet
[01:52] <arrrghhh> is this something that's going to be permanent?
[01:52] <arrrghhh> hrm
[01:52] <arrrghhh> i figured if they released it, it was final
[01:52] <hydrogen> err
[01:52] <hydrogen> by that logic
[01:52] <arrrghhh> i do like the look of it, just seems like all the customization has gone
[01:52] <hydrogen> kubuntu should never release hardy
[01:52] <hydrogen> because gutsy is *final*
[01:52] <pierreth> http://pastebin.com/d2211ff9e
[01:52] <arrrghhh> hydrogen: uhm... you're missing the point
[01:52] <hydrogen> nope, I think you are
[01:53] <arrrghhh> lol
[01:53] <NexaMac> ssshhh both of you :<
[01:53] <NexaMac> !ot | hydrogen
[01:53] <ubotu> hydrogen: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[01:53] <arrrghhh> i mean final like it's ready for public
[01:53] <NexaMac> :p
[01:53] <hydrogen> A release is a snapshot of development that is considdered worthy of others to view
[01:53] <arrrghhh> kde4 still isn't RC is it?
[01:53] <arrrghhh> it was my understanding it went final jan 11
[01:53] <hydrogen> it did
[01:54] <NickPresta> arrrghhh, http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3174
[01:54] <hydrogen> The concepts of a standard release were a bit abused for kde4.0
[01:54] <mefisto__> could someone try opening http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/LPG/51628~Face-Posters.jpg in gimp with Open Location (in the file menu). Mine's not working
[01:54] <hydrogen> to stop people from nitpicking at the internals and focus on the applications and other parts
[01:54] <arrrghhh> yea seemed like they rushed kde4
[01:54] <hydrogen> but Its by no means final
[01:54] <hydrogen> not rushed, this needed to happen so that attention could be focused on other parts of kde
[01:55] <arrrghhh> i see
[01:55] <arrrghhh> yea in reading that article i completely agree
[01:55] <arrrghhh> it should not have been considered a release, because that'll make people think that's it's ready
[01:56] <navetz> can somebody please help me set up kmail to work with hotmail.
[01:56] <hydrogen> It is ready
[01:56] <hydrogen> for early adopters
[01:56] <NickPresta> mefisto__, install gimp-libcurl and it will work :)
[01:56] <arrrghhh> i see
[01:56] <hydrogen> personally I've been using it as my primary desktop for about two months now
[01:56] <mefisto__> thanks NickPresta
[01:56] <hydrogen> and yes, theres still some big things missing
[01:56] <hydrogen> but I'm willing to give those up :)
[01:56] <arrrghhh> see i thought those big things would be wrapped up
[01:56] <arrrghhh> and it would just be little things
[01:56] <arrrghhh> or bug fixes
[01:56] <arrrghhh> not like interface options lol
[01:57] <killermach> ok.. I"m ready to get rid of dolphin.. too limited to be an everyday useful file manager
[01:57] <arrrghhh> i remember reading about phonon and plasma etc not really being 'ready'
[01:57] <killermach> how do I configure the "system menu" panel applet?
[01:57] <NickPresta> navetz, I believe Hotmail stopped allowing remote POP3 access unless you paid.
[01:58] <navetz_> NickPresta: but there are other ways to do it
[01:58] <navetz_> NickPresta: its just none of them are working for me
[01:58] <fyrmedic> anyone have a link to a page with instructions to get my wireless drivers back to their original state? I screwed them all up with ndiswrapper and fwcutter and a bunch of other crap.
[01:58] <arrrghhh> there's no POP3 server for free hotmail
[01:58] <navetz_> NickPresta: especially since hotmail is gay as hell and wont allow message forwarding to gmail
[01:58] <NickPresta> navetz_, what other ways are there to do it? Hotmail doesn't provide pop3/smtp settings?
[01:59] <pierreth> mefisto__: what is the problem with this image?
[01:59] <navetz_> NickPresta: you can use gotmail
[01:59] <arrrghhh> how i got hotmail to work in thunderbird was an extension
[01:59] <navetz_> NickPresta: but i havn't got it to work, although many other have
[01:59] <NickPresta> navetz_, well, yes, but that isn't a #kubuntu support topic :)
[01:59] <arrrghhh> i had to install an extension and it created a pop server on my machine just for it i think
[01:59] <navetz_> arrrghhh: i wanted to forward my messages to my gmail account and just read them there
[01:59] <arrrghhh> ok
[01:59] <navetz_> arrrghhh: but hotmail banned forwarding to gmail
[01:59] <arrrghhh> so forward your mail
[02:00] <arrrghhh> really?
[02:00] <arrrghhh> that's strange
[02:00] <navetz_> yea
[02:00] <NickPresta> it seems like a lot of work to use hotmail in the client of your choice. It would probably be less of a hassle to switch to gmail and update your contacts :)
[02:00] <arrrghhh> microshaft
[02:00] <navetz_> nah, thats a lot like them
[02:00] <arrrghhh> ditch your hotmail acct then
[02:00] <navetz_> I have been using it for 6 years
[02:00] <arrrghhh> so
[02:00] <arrrghhh> i've had mine for 10
[02:00] <namespace> I got a problem with my mounted shares: uhm i have samba troubles: when i mount my share, it gets autom. assigned to owner messagebus and GID 1000. I added a group samba and set its GID to 1000 and added my user to this group but when i create a folder I still can't change the permissions, why not? it gets automatically assigned drwxr-xr-x :( why:o
[02:00] <arrrghhh> doesn't mean i like it
[02:00] <NickPresta> That is the risk you run when you use a free email service. They can change it and you can't do anything :)
[02:01] <arrrghhh> indeed
[02:01] <navetz_> I dont like it either :(
[02:01] <pierreth> crimsun: have you seen my pastbin?
[02:01] <namespace> i got create mask = 0777    directory mask = 0777    force create mode = 0777 in my smb.conf but directories don't get 777 assigned on creation, why not?
[02:01] <sandroz> hi
[02:01] <NickPresta> hi, sandroz
[02:01] <pierreth> hello
[02:01] <sandroz> i am from Brazil
[02:01] <navetz_> i was thinking of forwarding the mail to my website email address, then having that address forward me the mail to my gmail account
[02:01] <namespace> hi sandroz
[02:01] <arrrghhh> sandroz: what's your question
[02:01] <namespace> anyone able to help with my samba problems?
[02:01] <pierreth> i am from america
[02:01] <NickPresta> !br | sandroz if you need it:
[02:01] <ubotu> sandroz if you need it:: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[02:02] <namespace> i'm from Canada ;)
[02:02] <navetz_> Canada :)
[02:02] <pierreth> i am from canada of america
[02:02] <namespace> haha hi Canada users :)
[02:03] <navetz_> hallo
[02:03] <namespace> anyone able to help with my samba issue?
[02:03] <mefisto__> namespace: it's important to keep the hip movement relaxed and fluid
[02:03] <sandroz> my question: kubuntu uses 3D desktop ?
[02:03] <NickPresta> !compiz | sandroz
[02:03] <ubotu> sandroz: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[02:03] <navetz_> everyone loves compiz :)
[02:03] <arrrghhh> namespace: isn't there a room for samba?  doesn't sound like a kubuntu issue to me
[02:03] <navetz_> except everyone who doesn't
[02:03] <carlos> sandroz> sim usa compiz
[02:04] <sandroz> cool
[02:04] <namespace> arrgh: there is but no one is replying so i thought i could ask here
[02:04] <arrrghhh> namespace: i see, i'd google around... i am no good with samba and it sounds like no one else here is confident enough to help you with it either
[02:05] <namespace> arrghh: i already have... oh well.... i'll try again .... thanks anyways
[02:06] <namespace> i'll cya guys, cheers and go EH! ;)
[02:06] <kadam> As soon as I start amarok and try to play something, it says 'device already in use, xine parameters:' .  Does anyone know what to do about this?  Also, I used to use KMIX, but now Kmix is empty when it opens...
[02:08] <killermach> when I click the "computer icon" next to the K-Gear menu on the main panel, I get dolphin, I want to get konqueror as was in previous versions
[02:08] <NickPresta> d3lphin | killermach
[02:09] <kadam> !xine
[02:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:09] <mefisto__> kadam: does amarok always have that error? what if you try it before using other audio progs?
[02:09] <NickPresta> !d3lphin | killermach
[02:09] <ubotu> killermach: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[02:09] <kadam> Is it possible to tell what's using my audio device?
[02:10] <killermach> NickPresta: the title bar says D"O"lphin  not "D"3"lphin
[02:10] <NickPresta> killermach, it's the same thing. It's called D3lphin in KDE 3.5.8 and Dolphin in KDE 4.0
[02:11] <NickPresta> D3lphin is Dolphin ported to KDE 3.5.8, I believe
[02:12] <NickPresta> Anyways, I'll be back later guys (and gals).
[02:13] <mefisto__> I see 3 dolphins: d3lphin dolphin and dolphin-kde4
[02:13] <kadam> Alright, I've discovered that only root can play audio/use the audio device.  Is there a way to fix this so regular users can?
[02:13] <NexaMac> :x
[02:13] <NexaMac> i found the cause of error 17 it seems.. theres no grub in /boot o_O
[02:13] <NexaMac> any helpfull tips here?
[02:14] <mefisto__> install grub?
[02:14] <NexaMac> >_>
[02:14] <NexaMac> no idea how to do it from the livecd without installing the entire OS tbh
[02:14] <mefisto__> look at grub-install --help
[02:14] <NexaMac> k
[02:14] <kadam> It seems only root can use the audio device... How can I make it so regular users can, too?
[02:15] <kadam> oh sorry
[02:19] <NexaMac> mefisto__: so, apt-get install grub --root-directory=/dev/hdd1/boot ?
[02:21] <NexaMac> :<
[02:28] <acme___> hey hey
[02:28] <acme___> I broke my x server, some help plz :(
[02:29] <acme___> was trying to install the nvidia drivers, and i think it downloaded and installed but when i restarted x server i get an error
[02:29] <Tm_T> !nvidia | acme___
[02:29] <ubotu> acme___: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:30] <acme___> uh, how do i open that link, im stuck in terminal?
[02:30] <acme___> i saw the nividia package made a backup of my conf, how do i restore that?
[02:30] <acme___> tried to cd to the directory, but...thats not workin
[02:31] <corinth> acme___:  what's the name of the backup?
[02:31] <acme___> uh, xconf somethin somethin
[02:31] <acme___> the date most likely
[02:38] <acme___> you know i think the server is tryin to output video to the vga port? instead of dvi which is what i have
[02:38] <acme___> or maybe im wrong?
[02:38] <acme___> how can i change it
[02:39] <acme___> sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[02:39] <acme___> woops
[02:42] <acme___> plz some help
[02:44] <corinth> acme___: cd /etc/X11/
[02:44] <corinth> acme___: sudo cd <name of backup file> xorg.conf
[02:45] <tinin> acme___ next time try to use the envy script from alberto milone to install the drivers, it is much more easy
[02:45] <ForgeAus> erm thats weird someone went and registered the nickname _ubuntu?
[02:45] <se7en_> j #kubuntu-kde
[02:45] <ForgeAus> isn't that a default the kubuntu livecd uses?
[02:46] <hydrogen> that'd be why someone did it probably :)
[02:46] <ForgeAus> anyhow, I need some help my kubuntu isn't booting... it can mount the filesystem but doesn't do much at all after that
[02:48] <acme___> not working :(
[02:48] <thomas_newbie__> my ssh and apache server starts each time i boot up my os. How to disable that
[02:48] <acme___> i opened the conf in a text editor, its empty
[02:48] <acme___> is that normal?
[02:50] <jords> thomas_newbie: In system settings, if you go to the advanced tab and click on system services you should be able to configure them to not start as booy
[02:51] <mefisto__> booy?
[02:53] <jords> boot :D
[02:53] <mefisto__> lol, I was googling booy to find out what it means
[02:56] <mefisto__> acme___: xorg.conf is empty?
[02:59] <ForgeAus> argh I think I know why I have a problem
[03:00] <ForgeAus> my /etc has become a file somehow instead of a directory :(
[03:00] <ForgeAus> can I fix it somehow?
[03:01] <acme___> mefisto__  apparently
[03:01] <acme___> unless i didnt open it properly
[03:02] <corporeal> lo
[03:03] <mefisto__> acme___: type this: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:03] <mefisto__> it should print the file to the screen
[03:04] <spideyman> has anyone found a fix for the search field text problem in frostwire
[03:05] <acme___> o snap
[03:05] <acme___> i fixed it
[03:05] <acme___> somehow...
[03:06] <acme___> switchin to konversation brb
[03:06] <mefisto__> acme___: what did you do?
[03:09] <Creationist> Someone please help!  For some reason, out of the blue, any time I try to play a video on my computer, whether embedded online or from my camcorder, the video is completely scrambled, but the audio is fine.  What happened and how do I fix this?  Same results with Totem, Mplayer, Kaffeine, and VLC
[03:10] <mixed> anyone know how to manually update Punk Buster for Quake III?
[03:11] <mefisto__> Creationist: all video files?
[03:14] <BlahingHereAndTh> how can i auto unlock my keyring in kubuntu 7.04?
[03:15] <thomas_newbie__> I found a package on the ubuntu site but I can't find the same in adept manager :( ?
[03:15] <BlahingHereAndTh> thomas_newbie__, what package?
[03:15] <thomas_newbie__> BlahingHereAndTh: User-Mode Linux Kernel
[03:17] <BlahingHereAndTh> i don't see it in apt :(
[03:17] <BlahingHereAndTh> i found the doc (lol)
[03:19] <thomas_newbie__> BlahingHereAndTh: yea i nkow
[03:19] <thomas_newbie__> BlahingHereAndTh: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/misc/user-mode-linux
[03:20] <BlahingHereAndTh> i am not on gutsy... it hates my laptop, so i am still on the 7.04 repo...
[03:20] <spideyman> what should the install path be for flash in gutsy
[03:23] <spideyman> nevermind i figured it out it goes to the browser folder in /usr/lib
[03:26] <BlahingHereAndTh> i wish pidgin would compile faster ^_^
[03:27] <surgy> ok i just got my first printer sense i made the switch to linux, its an hp deskjet 3915, i plugged it in now whats the next step to making it usable?
[03:29] <surgy> nvm i figured it out
[03:29] <surgy> thnx though
[03:32] <chuso> hi all :) first of all sorry for my english
[03:32] <chuso> is there any workaround to make kopete works fine under gutsy/kde4.0?
[03:34] <thomas_newbie__> Would I increase security of my Webserver if I changed from port 80?
[03:34] <biovore> not really
[03:34] <biovore> you make the webserver more secure by restricting what it can do..
[03:34] <Dragnslcr> It would stop some cursory attacks
[03:34] <thomas_newbie__> biovore: why not?  most people expect webservers to be port 80
[03:35] <Dragnslcr> It wouldn't stop a determined attack though
[03:35] <biovore> nmap will show people what ports are open..
[03:35] <biovore> ussualy you get port scanned first..
[03:35] <thomas_newbie__> true
[03:35] <thomas_newbie__> right
[03:35] <Dragnslcr> And it would annoy people trying to get to your site
[03:35] <Dragnslcr> Since they'd have to put in the port number manually
[03:35] <thomas_newbie__> so you guys say I should leave it? Why does my stupid professor tell me to change it :S
[03:36] <biovore> Apache it's self is fairly solid.. the addon such as php and perl are what cause problems..
[03:36] <Dragnslcr> Key word there would be "stupid"
[03:36] <Alamue> heh, I wonder how many times you people have heard this issue. I have no audio, audio worked under the Kubuntu Live CD. Syste: Dell XPS M1330, Windows driver is AC`97 Audio. What can I try to enable audio? I have checked all volume levels yet no audio.
[03:37] <Dragnslcr> Alamue- might try checking the volume levels in alsamixer as well as kmix
[03:37] <thomas_newbie__> Dragnslcr: theoretically you would think that it would add SOME degree of security since its expected to be 80 usually
[03:37] <Dragnslcr> I've seen one or two channels that are in alsamixer but not in kmix
[03:37] <Alamue> Where is alsamixer located?
[03:38] <Dragnslcr> thomas_newbie__- it would stop a fair number of trivial script kiddies, but that would be it
[03:38] <thomas_newbie__> biovore: see I was thinking of adding php or perl to my server. Bad idea?
[03:38] <Dragnslcr> !info alsamixergui
[03:38] <ubotu> alsamixergui: graphical soundcard mixer for ALSA soundcard driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.0rc2-1-9 (gutsy), package size 29 kB, installed size 148 kB
[03:38] <Alamue> Thank you. Headphones work, I am just trying to get the built in speakers working now.
[03:38] <Dragnslcr> Alamue- that might be a bit easier to work with than alsamixer
[03:39] <Dragnslcr> I know I had to use alsamixer to get the digital outputs working on my sound system, so I always recommend checking it just to be sure
[03:39] <Alamue> Thank you. I need to install all of the gnome packages to install alsamixer.
[03:40] <Dragnslcr> You can use alsamixer from the shell instead if you don't want to install the Gnome libraries
[03:40] <Alamue> I have also been getting another issue. When attempting to install certain programs/files from the repositories I get "Could not install file commit to big or could break packages"
[03:42] <Alamue> "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly a problem downloading packages, or else the commit would break packages"
[03:42] <Dragnslcr> You can try checking /var/log/dpkg.log maybe
[03:42] <Alamue> It does install it though, except j2re.
[03:43] <Alamue> Alsamixer fixed it, I also had to change what the master volume is.
[03:44] <BlahingHereAndTh> how do i auto unlock my keyring in 7.04?
[03:44] <Dragnslcr> If a package's install gets messed up, apt tries to finish the install every time you use it
[03:44] <Dragnslcr> I think it's every time, anyway
[03:44] <BlahingHereAndTh> yeah...
[03:44] <BlahingHereAndTh> you have to use -f...
[03:44] <Alamue> Dragnslcr: Thanks, this latest switch to Kubuntu has been rough, this laptop dislikes Linux.
[03:45] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, laptops can be tough sometimes. A lot of the hardware is made companies coughbroadcomcough that don't support Linux
[03:45] <lasca1> hello everyone
[03:46] <Alamue> I stopped VLC player but the song is still playing.......
[03:47] <posingaspopular> Alamue: killall vlc
[03:48] <Alamue> vlc: no process killed
[03:50] <grul> try ps aux | grep vlc
[03:50] <grul> to find the process
[03:52] <Alamue> wxvlc was still running. I manually killed the process and that worked.
[03:55] <|Toad> anyone here?
[03:55] <NickPresta> we're here, |Toad
[03:56] <|Toad> i just installed kde4 on gutsy gibbon and i was changing display settings and it froze
[03:56] <|Toad> now kde4 won't load
[03:57] <darin_> i donno what i did but i can't use any sudo commands on my ubuntu 7.10 server and i dont have any other suers added that have sudo permissions. it says that my uder is not in the sudoers file. any suggestions?
[04:00] <darin_> ok i will take it that no one is here that can help me
[04:01] <dettoaltrimenti> what do you need darin
[04:01] <darin_> ok i will take it that no one is here that can help me
[04:01] <darin_> i donno what i did but i can't use any sudo commands on my ubuntu 7.10 server and i dont have any other suers added that have sudo permissions. it says that my uder is not in the sudoers file. any suggestions?
[04:02] <dettoaltrimenti> hmm. try a sudo command and tell me what it says
[04:03] <NickPresta> |Toad, I saw that you asked in #kubuntu-kde4. I would wait for a response there
[04:05] <darin_> when i do a sudo command it says darin is not in the sudoers file and this event will be reported
[04:05] <darin_> but it sends the report to my mail account
[04:06] <darin_> i read that i should enable the root account but from the cli on the server it says i dont have permissions to do so
[04:06] <jords> My /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc is scrwed up.... can someone give me a unedited copy of this file? reinstalling kdm is'nt returning it to the defaukt
[04:07] <jords> *default
[04:07] <NickPresta> jords, use the --purge option when removing
[04:07] <NickPresta> that should remove the configuration files
[04:07] <|Toad> nope, didn't work
[04:07] <|Toad> it just left me at a blank black screen this time
[04:08] <|Toad> had to do a hard power down
[04:08] <|Toad> there isn
[04:08] <|Toad> isn't a config file i can edit?
[04:10] <MuNzE> some1 know why my gdm crash after install kde4  from gnome....install yesterday everything was ok?
[04:11] <jords> NickPresta: that wants to remove kubuntu-desktop as well. I moved  the kdmrc and reinstalled kdmrc with aptitude, but it has'nt recreated the file
[04:12] <jords> even though apt-file says the kdmrc belongs to the kde package
[04:12] <lasca1> i've been trying to patch, compile and the latest version of mad-wifi, and i'm getting errors all over the place and am pretty frustrated.  Is there a separate channel for mad-wifi, or does someone here know something that I don't?
[04:13] <maduser> kde4, to buggy for kubuntu?
[04:14] <maduser> All i have has been issue after issue
[04:14] <Tm_T> meh, all is fine here (though I don't use packages)
[04:15] <maduser> what did you use?
[04:15] <MuNzE> windoz
[04:15] <MuNzE> lol
[04:15] <Tm_T> maduser: I compile KDE4 several times a day
[04:15] <Tm_T> MuNzE: not funny
[04:15] <maduser> wha?
[04:15] <maduser> why constantly compile it?
[04:15] <MuNzE> not funny i can login after isntall kde ??
[04:15] <MuNzE> this is ok ?
[04:16] <MuNzE> can not sorry
[04:16] <BlahingHereAndTh> how come i have no sound on youtube?
[04:16] <Tm_T> MuNzE: hmmm, interesting, have you tried KDM ?
[04:16] <lasca1> i've been trying to patch, compile and the latest version of mad-wifi, and i'm getting errors all over the place and am pretty frustrated.  Is there a separate channel for mad-wifi, or does someone here know something that I don't?
[04:16] <MuNzE> yes
[04:16] <MuNzE> and kdm crash to
[04:16] <MuNzE> yesterday everything was ok
[04:16] <Tm_T> maduser: and why not?
[04:16] <maduser> BlahingHereAndTh is the sound bar all the way down, I have that problem
[04:17] <Tm_T> MuNzE: hmm, any errors?
[04:17] <BlahingHereAndTh> nope....
[04:21] <jessica> hello, i can't play mp3 anymore in amarok. i've installed libxine1-ffmpeg but it still gives me that error. how can i fix it?
[04:23] <jessie_> hey buys
[04:23] <jessie_> *guys
[04:23] <Tm_T> jessica: "that error" is what?
[04:24] <jessica> Tm_T: some media could not be loaded (not playable)
[04:24] <jessica> Tm_T: when I try to add mp3s to the playlist. other filetypes are fine
[04:26] <artur_> does anyone here plays supertux?
[04:26] <artur_> or has already played
[04:28] <kye> my taskbar just stopped showing and i can not get it to come back?
[04:30] <marx2k> yknow, Ive really got to say... I do like KDE 3.5 more than 4 so far
[04:31] <kye> marx2k: would you happend to know how to get the taskbar to show? it just stopped showing and i dont know how to get it back
[04:34] <marx2k> kye: I would just delete ~/.kde4 and start fresh
[04:34] <|Toad> okay, i got kde4 working again
[04:34] <marx2k> KDE4 so far is too buggy for me to use. Im sticking with 3.5 for now
[04:35] <|Toad> anyone know how i can make the taskbar smaller?
[04:35] <marx2k> the taskbar seems to have no settings options
[04:35] <|Toad> exactly
[04:35] <|Toad> why is it so big?
[04:35] <marx2k> no idea
[04:37] <kye> My taskbar isnt showing anymore how can i fix this?
[04:39] <maduser> type kicker into the terminal
[04:39] <maduser> you kicker from kde 3 will apear
[04:39] <corinth> |Toad: It will have resizing options, but it's not done yet.
[04:40] <kye> kdub@GotWork:~$ kicker
[04:40] <kye> ERROR: kicker is already running!
[04:40] <kye> but i still can not see the taskbar
[04:43] <|Toad> is there any way i can get my system tray power/battery settings in kde4?
[04:43] <|Toad> when i unplug it, the screen doesn't dim anymore
[04:52] <Onyx> how can i remove kio_media_mounthelper?
[04:52] <posingaspopular> sudo /etc/init.d/kicker restart should do it
[04:52] <posingaspopular> im not positive though kye
[04:52] <posingaspopular> or you could try 'force-reload'
[04:52] <posingaspopular> but im going to bed, gl
[04:54] <mot__> what's the word i'm looking for
[04:54] <mot__> when you take a noise and convert it to a word...
[04:54] <mot__> i.e.
[04:54] <kye> posingaspopular: I get a Error i will try to paste
[04:54] <mot__> a sneeze sounds like "a-chew"
[04:54] <mot__> damn what's that word..
[04:58] <kye>  X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
[04:58] <kye>   Major opcode:  19
[04:58] <kye>   Minor opcode:  0
[04:58] <kye>   Resource id:  0x1c00fce
[04:58] <kye> X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
[04:58] <kye>   Major opcode:  19
[04:58] <kye>   Minor opcode:  0
[04:58] <kye>   Resource id:  0x1800097
[04:58] <kye> sorry for the flood
[04:58] <kye> this is the error i get when i run kicker
[04:59] <se7en_> !ps |
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ps - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <zachary_> does anyone here have an issue with firefox in kubuntu 7.10, where when scrolling, the page stutters consistantly every other second?
[05:00] <zachary_> It is not another process running either, almost like the cpu peaks out..
[05:01] <hsystemx_> zachary, can be video issue.
[05:01] <hsystemx_> do you have the correct drivers for your video carD?
[05:02] <zachary_> hsystemx_ I assue Kubuntu uses the same gma910 driver than Ubuntu does, which works fine.  Any Suggestions?
[05:03] <hsystemx_> what procesor do you have?
[05:03] <hsystemx_> video card?, memory? , any candy eyes stuff?
[05:03] <hsystemx_> on?
[05:04] <zachary_> No eye candy, Intel Pentium M 2.0ghz, 2gb ram, its a thinkpad Z60t
[05:04] <hsystemx_> and its only with firefox, doenst happen with konqueror?
[05:04] <hsystemx_> doesnt*
[05:05] <zachary_> nope
[05:05] <zachary_> just firefox
[05:06] <zachary_> hmmm, it looks like it reverted to a generic intel vesa driver, let me restart X, and see if that fixes it :)
[05:07] <hsystemx_> ok
[05:08] <Makuseru> what opens a .raw? (RAW Camera Image)
[05:09] <hsystemx_> am, try opening it with gimp ?
[05:09] <acme64> alright! everything is OK
[05:10] <acme64> new issue if you will
[05:10] <acme64> installin kde4
[05:10] <acme64> To avoid having to start a second X server for a full session install xserver-xephyr and run Xephyr :1 then  and run /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde in the Xerphyr xterm.
[05:10] <acme64> dunno what that mean, how do i do that?
[05:10] <hsystemx_> acme 64
[05:11] <eatThisAndDie> guys, i'm using pidgin for IMs, How do i configure it so taht the taskbar blinks when there is a new msg?
[05:11] <eatThisAndDie> AFAIK i should be configuring KNotify rite?
[05:11] <nibbe> Hi people
[05:11] <hsystemx_> alt + f2 , write konsole  ,  ENTER!  ,  write sudo apt-get update   , ENTER!   , writer sudo apt-get install xserver-xephyr
[05:11] <acme64> oo,h, its a package
[05:12] <nibbe> Quite funny, can't find how to change the screen resolution, where do I do that? (Kubuntu)
[05:12] <hsystemx_> after that   ,  alt + f2 again, write Xephyr :1 , ENTER!
[05:12] <acme64> and i do that like, right now
[05:12] <acme64> not switching to kde4 yet?
[05:13] <hsystemx_> after all of that, it is supposed to pop up some kind of terminal .konsole, in there write: /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde
[05:13] <hsystemx_> ENTER.
[05:13] <hsystemx_> im nto a kde user :)
[05:13] <hsystemx_> not8
[05:13] <hsystemx_> not*
[05:13] <acme64> hmm
[05:13] <acme64> sounds simple enough
[05:13] <hsystemx_> yep, give it a try
[05:15] <NickPresta> if I had to use a Debian repository, would Stable or Testing be close to *buntu 7.10?
[05:16] <acme64> Extended Input Devices not yet supported. Impelement it at line 625 in ../../../../hw/kdrive/src/kinput.c
[05:16] <acme64> Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list!
[05:16] <acme64> :o
[05:16] <acme64> i broke xephyr it seems
[05:18] <nibbe> Quite funny, can't find how to change the screen resolution, where do I do that? (Kubuntu)
[05:19] <acme64> nibbe: click the k menu and go to system settings
[05:19] <nibbe> found it
[05:19] <acme64> then monitor & display
[05:21] <nibbe> how do i open a .tar.gz in the terminal?
[05:21] <zachary_> hmm, that didn't seem to work either.  It is using the i810 driver.  I could've sworn there is a newer driver that Ubuntu used for my GPU
[05:23] <ForgeAus> nibbe what do you mean how to extract it?
[05:23] <ForgeAus> or how to view the files in it?
[05:23] <nibbe> yeah
[05:23] <ForgeAus> (if you have midnight commander you can view the files in it)
[05:23] <ForgeAus> the program your looking for is tar
[05:23] <ForgeAus> I'm not so good with the switches you need tho
[05:23] <eatThisAndDie> nibbe: tar -xzvf filename.tar.gz
[05:23] <Dr_willis> mc is a darn handy tool
[05:23] <ForgeAus> so do a man tar
[05:23] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[05:23] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.12 (gutsy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[05:24] <Dr_willis> unp is handy also. for lazy people like me.
[05:24] <ForgeAus> ok eatThis seems to know better :)
[05:24] <eatThisAndDie> yes, and now i need to know.... how do i set the "urgent hint" thing?
[05:24] <eatThisAndDie> i want it to blink til kingdom come.
[05:25] <ForgeAus> what urgent hint thing?
[05:25] <eatThisAndDie> rite now it blinks like 5 times and stops.
[05:25] <eatThisAndDie> send 'urgent hint' to the window,
[05:25] <eatThisAndDie> which is supposed to cause minimized windows to like... blink.
[05:26] <ForgeAus> oh kinda like notifying a change has occurred?
[05:26] <eatThisAndDie> exactly
[05:26] <eatThisAndDie> i specifically want my messages tat i get with pidgin to cause the window to blink
[05:26] <ForgeAus> like say konversation turns red when theres a message you havn't read
[05:26] <ForgeAus> (when its minimized)
[05:26] <eatThisAndDie> it DOES?
[05:26] <ForgeAus> erm pigdin is beyond me
[05:26] <ForgeAus> yes it does at least in kubuntu
[05:26] <ForgeAus> isn't pigdin gaims remake?
[05:27] <eatThisAndDie> yeah it is
[05:27] <ForgeAus> yeah sorry I don't know much about that
[05:27] <eatThisAndDie> they had some agreement with AIM for the usage of the name,
[05:27] <ForgeAus> konversation is only IRC
[05:27] <eatThisAndDie> AFAIK anyway
[05:27] <ForgeAus> you need kopete for other IM's... (or pigdin)
[05:27] <ForgeAus> kopete can do IRC but its kinda strange, not really my idea of IRC that way...
[05:28] <eatThisAndDie> yeah, i dont particularly like kopete.
[05:28] <family> does anyone know if ndiswrapper is supported out of the box? the reason behind this is i dont have a ethernet card only a wireless.
[05:28] <ForgeAus> oh don't get me wrong overall I like the app I just don't find it all that suitable for IRC
[05:28] <eatThisAndDie> i was used to KSirc
[05:28] <eatThisAndDie> on fedora that is,
[05:28] <family> so i need to be able to use ndiswrapper to load up my wireless driver. with out it on the disc im pretty screwed :)
[05:28] <ForgeAus> havn't really fiddled with ksirc
[05:29] <Dr_willis> ive not used ksirc in.. ages...
[05:29] <acme64> i tihnk you need a plugin for pidgin to do that
[05:29] <eatThisAndDie> family: AFAIK it is,
[05:29] <acme64> cuz its not in the default options
[05:29] <ForgeAus> kopete is fairly comparable to trillian for windows ... (well maybe not the astra version)
[05:29] <family> AFAIK?
[05:29] <acme64> as far as i know
[05:29] <Dr_willis> !afaik
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about afaik - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <family> aw lol thanks
[05:29] <eatThisAndDie> acme64: thats right, I have Message Notification set up.
[05:29] <Dr_willis> !info wtf
[05:29] <ubotu> Package wtf does not exist in gutsy
[05:29] <acme64> lol
[05:30] <Dr_willis> There used to be some command that told ya what all these anacromyms ment.
[05:30] <family> latest version right i believe you guys are in gustsy?
[05:30] <Dr_willis> but i forget its name.
[05:30] <acme64> !info in-my-pants
[05:30] <ubotu> Package in-my-pants does not exist in gutsy
[05:30] <acme64> pwned
[05:30] <acme64> family:  i dont even know lol
[05:30] <acme64> where do ya check
[05:30] <eatThisAndDie> family: I'm on 7.10, no idea whats the code for it
[05:30] <family> :)
[05:31] <acme64> i get adept tryin to auto update, but it always fails with some erro
[05:31] <ForgeAus> hmmm its a pity the open source kylix isn't being developed anymore
[05:31] <acme64> i dont think it has root privilage to update
[05:31] <family> yea thats gutsy
[05:31] <ForgeAus> I guess lazarus has to do as a replacement
[05:31] <eatThisAndDie> I had an idea for a restaurant: Worlds Tastiest Fish (WTF)
[05:31] <ForgeAus> lol eatThis
[05:31] <Dr_willis> I rember all the hype about Kylix when it came out..
[05:32] <family> so gusty has ndiswrapper on the load i dont have to apt-get ndiswrapper and apt-get ndiswrapper-utils?
[05:32] <ForgeAus> what some poison type? (isn't puffer fish poisonous?)
[05:32] <eatThisAndDie> And if your food's late; you go "WTF" to the waiter. WTF being Where's The Food
[05:32] <Dr_willis> Puffer Fish is very posionous.
[05:32] <Dr_willis> well parts of it. :)
[05:32] <eatThisAndDie> I prefer BlowFish
[05:32] <eatThisAndDie> its secure
[05:32] <eatThisAndDie> :D
[05:32] <ForgeAus> lol eatThis :)
[05:32] <corinth> Haha.
[05:32] <ForgeAus> encrypted fish, what next!
[05:33] <family> im trying to get rid of pclos
[05:33]  * ForgeAus tosses eatThis a Tuna and asks WTF can't I encrypt this?... 
[05:33] <acme64> ok so my xephyr is broken anyone know what this means?
[05:33] <acme64> Extended Input Devices not yet supported. Impelement it at line 625 in ../../../../hw/kdrive/src/kinput.c
[05:33] <eatThisAndDie> Forge: try apt-get install libmcrypt
[05:33] <eatThisAndDie> :D
[05:33] <ForgeAus> ahh xephyr... the xnest-like proggy :)
[05:34] <family> should i get alternate install or desktop?
[05:34] <ForgeAus> acme which kubuntu u using? edgy?
[05:34] <acme64> iunno
[05:34] <ForgeAus> check your xorg.conf
[05:34] <family> uname
[05:35] <family> uname -r i think it is
[05:35] <ForgeAus> you may just need to take out the laptop/tablet input control stuff
[05:35] <family> then whats the kernel
[05:35] <acme64> Linux acme-lnx 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 08:02:57 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:35] <family> that would be i think the latest gutsy
[05:35] <family> yea its gusty
[05:35] <ForgeAus> hehe nice gutsy :)
[05:35] <family> 7.10
[05:35] <ForgeAus> I like feisty myself...
[05:35] <ForgeAus> but only had edgy :)
[05:35] <acme64> first time runnin linux :p
[05:36] <acme64> no difference to me i suppose
[05:36] <eatThisAndDie> the names............ they burn
[05:36] <ForgeAus> acme check out your xorg.conf (forgot where it resides prolly somewhere in /etc/x11 ??? at a guess)
[05:36] <acme64> yea
[05:36] <family> forgeaus do you know if ndiswrapper is supported out of the box? or has it on the install
[05:36] <ForgeAus> um family is it in adept?
[05:36] <ForgeAus> if so just install it that way...
[05:36] <family> yea see thats the problem
[05:36] <ForgeAus> I think thats how it works
[05:36] <family> i need it on the ce
[05:36] <family> cd
[05:37] <ForgeAus> I don't know much about ndiswrapper to be honest
[05:37] <family> i installed this last time
[05:37] <ForgeAus> oh you need a custom CD?
[05:37] <ForgeAus> the live CD prolly doesn't have it by default
[05:37] <family> and couldnt get my wireless to work on my laptop because i dont have a ethernet card only wireless
[05:37] <ForgeAus> so your out-of-the-box question is a no
[05:37] <acme64> xorg.conf is open
[05:37] <eatThisAndDie> family: whats your purpose with this? You want your wireless to be available out of the box?
[05:37] <family> yep
[05:37] <ForgeAus> acme, what input devices are in there?
[05:38] <family> eatthisanddie my lap top doesnt have a ethernet port
[05:38] <acme64> all of them...lol
[05:38] <family> only wireless card :P
[05:38] <ForgeAus> there should be a stylus, or a touchpad, etc one that you can disable
[05:38] <eatThisAndDie> family: i dunno how much this will help, but mine worked out of the box...
[05:38] <ForgeAus> which MAY fix your error
[05:38] <acme64> stylus, eraser, cursor
[05:38] <ForgeAus> (I think edgy had 3 of them
[05:38] <ForgeAus> yes those ones
[05:38] <acme64> delete them?
[05:38] <ForgeAus> disable them (commet them out or something)
[05:38] <family> eatthisanddie do you have a broadcom wireless chip set
[05:38] <NickPresta> family, *buntu comes with the ndiswrapper module pre-installed. It needs the ndiswrapper-utils package to get it working. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper#head-715b64e4eb010761a0c694dde40d3a569f414b5e
[05:38] <ForgeAus> I wouldn't suggest deleting...
[05:39] <eatThisAndDie> i'm pretty sure mine's an intel.
[05:39] <family> hmm
[05:39] <family> sounds good
[05:39] <ForgeAus> I think comments are just a # to put infront of the line...
[05:39] <eatThisAndDie> sorry bro, its a company laptop which i just got on friday
[05:39] <eatThisAndDie> i'm prety new to it meself.
[05:39] <ForgeAus> that way if you need them sometime later on (unlikely) or if something goes wrong you can fix it
[05:39] <family> ill just load the utils on a cd or sumthin
[05:39] <acme64> ok done
[05:39] <ForgeAus> now try it and see if xephyr still gives the same error
[05:40] <acme64> nope!
[05:40] <acme64> new error though
[05:40] <ForgeAus> awesome
[05:40] <acme64> lol
[05:40] <ForgeAus> lol
[05:40] <family> wow this is great hey thanks nickpresta
[05:40] <acme64> Fatal server error:
[05:40] <acme64> Could not create server lock file: /tmp/.X1-lock
[05:40] <NickPresta> family, no problem
[05:40] <ForgeAus> yeah well that means its busy already
[05:40] <acme64> oh
[05:40] <ForgeAus> I'm not sure how to get around that one
[05:40] <acme64> uh its not runnin tho
[05:40] <ForgeAus> your running xephyr from outside X?
[05:40] <acme64> time to kill some processes >:)
[05:41] <ForgeAus> no wait
[05:41] <ForgeAus> killing processes isn't going to help
[05:41] <acme64> too late, already killing
[05:41] <acme64> DEATH FROM ABOVE!
[05:41] <acme64> etc
[05:41] <ForgeAus> whatever, good luck
[05:42] <acme64> hmm, its not runnin
[05:42] <ForgeAus> what isn't?
[05:42] <ForgeAus> your x server?
[05:42] <acme64> xephyr
[05:42] <ForgeAus> of coruse not it gave you an error
[05:42] <acme64> o.0
[05:42] <acme64> lol
[05:42] <ForgeAus> if it were running you'd have another window
[05:42] <acme64> well wtf does that error mean
[05:42] <ForgeAus> I told you
[05:43] <ForgeAus> it means theres already an x-server running
[05:43] <ForgeAus> thus the lock file is busy already...
[05:43] <ForgeAus> I'm not sure how xephyr is supposed to work actually
[05:43] <acme64> but, the website says i gotta run the xephyr and then type in something
[05:43] <acme64> and then i can boot into kde3
[05:43] <acme64> 4
[05:43]  * ForgeAus shrugs
[05:44] <acme64> lemme restart this
[05:44] <acme64> bbl
[05:44] <ForgeAus> good luck
[05:47] <kye> sorry for the flood
[05:47] <kye> I can not see my taskbar and i tried restarting kicker but i get a error?
[05:48] <ForgeAus> kye can you end the kicker process thats currently running if there is one?
[05:48] <kye> yes
[05:48] <ForgeAus> (I think you use kdesu ksysguard to end processes?)
[05:48] <ForgeAus> ok
[05:48] <ForgeAus> so do that
[05:49] <kye> ok
[05:49] <ForgeAus> then run kicker
[05:49] <ForgeAus> (once all kicker processes are gone)
[05:49] <kye> taskbar comes back then leaves..
[05:49] <kye> then i get this error..
[05:49] <kye> 1sec
[05:49] <kye> its 4lines
[05:49] <family> aright looks like ill be joining the kubuntu crew again :)
[05:50] <corinth> family: Yay! :-P
[05:50] <ForgeAus> hey family ... what do you mean joining the kubuntu krew? just monitoring this channel
[05:50] <ForgeAus> or as a developer or what?
[05:50] <family> :)
[05:50] <kye> [21:58] <kye> X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
[05:50] <kye> [21:58] <kye>   Major opcode:  19
[05:50] <kye> [21:58] <kye>   Minor opcode:  0
[05:50] <kye> [21:58] <kye>   Resource id:  0x1c00fce
[05:50] <family> developer and helpin i guess i was working on some stuff but then went back to school for awhile
[05:50] <kye> [21:58] <kye> X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
[05:50] <kye> [21:58] <kye>   Major opcode:  19
[05:50] <kye> [21:58] <kye>   Minor opcode:  0
[05:50] <kye> [21:58] <kye>   Resource id:  0x1800097
[05:50] <kye> sorry
[05:50] <kye> i get that
[05:51] <NickPresta> !pastebin | kye in the future use
[05:51] <ubotu> kye in the future use: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:51] <family> hey kye pastebin is your friend
[05:51] <kye> sorry :( i will due next time
[05:51] <ForgeAus> kye I've seen that error before not sure how to help you with it tho
[05:52] <surgy> my sound keeps closing and killing klauncher at the same time, can someone help me? i know thats vague buts its the best i can do, with what i have
[05:52] <corinth> Heh. I hardly think that four lines, forewarned, needs pastepin NickPresta. :-P
[05:52] <kye> humm ok.
[05:52] <ForgeAus> me too corinth but some people have strict definitionso f what they call a flood
[05:52] <Dr_willis> he could of edited them to be on 1 line. :)
[05:52] <NickPresta> corinth, that's why I said next time. Usually > 3 lines should be pastebin'd
[05:52] <ForgeAus> lol Dr Willis
[05:53] <corinth> I tend to go by the rule of 5 ;-)
[05:53] <Dr_willis> of course.. the errors really dident say much.
[05:53] <family> i still feel that ndiswrapper should be installed by default wish someone would mock that up of course i could lend a hand and open the squash file and place the .deb files in to the corresponding directory
[05:53] <ForgeAus> Presta does that work for extremely long lines of three also ?
[05:53] <surgy> anyone?
[05:53] <kye> is there a way to uninstall then reinstall the taskbar?
[05:53] <ForgeAus> hey surgy :)
[05:53] <corinth> kye: For what purpose?
[05:53] <Dr_willis> kye,  Huh?
[05:53] <surgy> heya ForgeAus hows it been man>?
[05:53] <family> wow
[05:53] <ForgeAus> kicker is part of kde's main package
[05:53] <kye> well i cant see it?
[05:53] <ForgeAus> hey surgy :) great
[05:53] <surgy> ForgeAus: im having problems with my sound
[05:53] <ForgeAus> I killed my kubuntu again
[05:53] <kye> then why did it just stop working
[05:53] <surgy> lol
[05:53] <Dr_willis> Unisntalling/reionstlling it wont affect much of anything.
[05:53] <family> get rid of the kicker sounds intresting
[05:53] <ForgeAus> sound...
[05:54] <ForgeAus> ADSA?
[05:54] <Dr_willis> if your users settings are messed up.. they are messed up. :)
[05:54] <surgy> well i was trying to burn an iso using the command "kdesudo k3b"
[05:54] <nibbe> how do i use a .cfg file? (It's a new theme. Kubuntu)
[05:54] <ForgeAus> my sound doesn't work anyway, so I probably can't help anyway
[05:54] <kye> lol
[05:54] <kye> well a man..
[05:54] <family> :) who needs sound im deaf
[05:54] <kye> how can i fix it lolol
[05:54] <ForgeAus> its kdesu not kdesudo
[05:54] <kye> guess i must format
[05:55] <ForgeAus> do you need to be root to burn?
[05:55] <surgy> and klauncher crashed and reported it was something to do with the sound, i also have this problem on some cedega games and everytime i play an emualted game on my psx emulator
[05:55] <Dr_willis> nibbe,  kde themes can be a bit complex.   a 'theme' is made of parts. such as window decorations, widgets, color sets, fonts, and icons.
[05:55] <family> no forgeAus
[05:55] <eatThisAndDie> Forge: no u dont. I think
[05:55] <family> unless your permissions are messed up
[05:55] <ForgeAus> surgy just run k3b then
[05:55] <Dr_willis> kde4 uses 'kdesudo' under kubuntu i belive. :)
[05:55] <surgy> ForgeAus: yeah man, it wont grant rw permissions to cdrom0 without root access for some reason
[05:55] <ForgeAus> oh ok Dr willis, I didn't know that my bad
[05:56] <family> anyone test out that kde4? whats the input on that any good?
[05:56] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  aparently thers some bugs/work arounds going on..
[05:56] <Dr_willis> family,  i would wait a few more weeks befor trying it
[05:56] <family> aww
[05:56] <ForgeAus> hmmm does cd's show up in fstab? I wonder if theres an issue there
[05:56] <Dr_willis> Lets say i had to remove kde4 to get where i could install other stuff. :)
[05:56] <surgy> ForgeAus: buts thats not my concern here my concern is that klauncher crashes a lot and im pretty sure my sound driver whatever is causing it,
[05:56] <family> well if hes having problems with k3b why not reinstall it see if it fixes the problem
[05:57] <Dr_willis> automounting filesystems/removeable devices normally dont have a fstab entry
[05:57] <ForgeAus> surgy can you update or reinstall your sound driver?
[05:57] <surgy> family: its not just k3b though it happens with three seamingly unrelated programs
[05:57] <ForgeAus> I really aren't the kinda guy to ask about this...
[05:57] <Dr_willis> family,  windows 'thinking' is to remove/reinstall..
[05:57] <family> aww
[05:57] <corinth> Firefox 3 beta2 seems really ugly under KDE, the tab bar, etc. Anyone find a fix for this?
[05:57] <eatThisAndDie> the only thng i know about sound is ALSA
[05:57] <Dr_willis> it rarely works under linux. :)
[05:57] <ForgeAus> Dr Willis I admit I come from a Windows Background...
[05:58] <kye> i got it to work
[05:58] <kye> i open kiba dock
[05:58] <ForgeAus> and reinstallation does have its merits... at times... even in the linux world...
[05:58] <eatThisAndDie> guys, anyone know what window manager 7.10 uses?
[05:58] <kye> and my whole taskbar came back
[05:58] <lasca1> i compiled and ran ndiswrapper from source and have since removed all the modules.  However, it's still registered as a bash command.  How do I completely remove it?
[05:58] <family> Dr willis worked for me many a time although i also delete conf files and redo some things
[05:58] <kye> how did that happen?
[05:58] <ForgeAus> windows manager? eat this KDE is the windows manager
[05:58] <surgy> Dr_willis: any insight into my problem? or otherwise any debugging info you can give me so i can ask a more intelegent question?
[05:58] <jussi01> eatThisAndDie: kwin
[05:58] <ForgeAus> for all Kubuntu
[05:58] <Dr_willis> too many 'people' in the linux channels think that removeing system tools.. will some how affect  the users setting files   - which often get messed up. :)
[05:58] <ForgeAus> yeah well kwin is a little more specific ut yeah
[05:58] <eatThisAndDie> ok, any idea how i can configure it?
[05:58] <corinth> eatThisAndDie: He means Kwin.
[05:58] <eatThisAndDie> kwin anyway?
[05:58] <Dr_willis> surgy,  whats the issue? i missed it.
[05:58] <corinth> Lol.
[05:59] <family> Dr willis if i had it my way i would use fvmw or even flux box
[05:59] <kye> Dr_willis: It came by when i opened  kiba-dock.. why?
[05:59] <nibbe> how do i open theme.cfg in the konsole?
[05:59] <surgy> Dr_willis: my sound something or another crashed and took down klauncher with it, and it happened while i was burning a cd this has also happened before while using cedega and again while running a playstation emulator
[05:59] <family> just so i could stay away from bug problems
[06:00] <Dr_willis> kye,  kiba-dock i though tried to replace the kicker panel.
[06:00] <corinth> Firefox 3 beta 2 seems to attempt to take on the look of the desktop it's on. On my Ubuntu, it has tango icons. On Windows, it blends great with Vista. In Kubuntu though, it loks terrible. Any way to disable this feature?
[06:00] <Dr_willis> surgy,  not sure on that. try it as a different user. as a test perhaps.
[06:01] <Dr_willis> Hmm. I dont even have firefox 3 beta2.. i got an earlier one still.
[06:01] <surgy> Dr_willis: well i tryed to restart klauncher from a terminal and it reports that klauncher is not allowed to be started becuase it has to be ran via kinit and is supposed to start automaticly, which it does it just crashes at random and inconveniant times
[06:02] <corinth> Big difference between beta 1 and beta 2, Dr_willis
[06:02] <corinth> Several new cool features.
[06:02] <surgy> ok guys im gonna log out and back in so i can access this cd, i need some data off of it
[06:03] <surgy> i cant mount it without klaunch, and sense it crashed during the writing process of the cd, lol anyways ill be back
[06:04] <family> hows the support for ics now in feisty fawn?
[06:05] <Dr_willis> corinth,  i think i got B2 on my windows box. But i normally stick with the older one.. since all my plugins i like are not ported yet. :(
[06:05] <family> (internet connection sharing) i would love to hook my xbox up
[06:05] <corinth> Dr_willis: What plugins do you use that you don't want to lose for the moment?
[06:05] <surgy> ok im back
[06:05] <surgy> klauncher started
[06:05] <Dr_willis> corinth,  i got a google thing that syncs all my pcs/bookmarks mainly. :)
[06:06] <Dr_willis> corinth,  i imagine it will get updated soon.
[06:06] <corinth> Dr_willis: Ah, browser sync. Foxmarks does the same thing, and it will be updated very soon ^_^
[06:06] <surgy> Dr_willis: but i try to open my cd, and it is mounted properly, but it says: "unable to create io-slave, Klauncher says: unknown protocol"
[06:07] <Dr_willis> surgy,  if its mounted. (check mount command) just point your file manager at /media/cdrom :)
[06:08] <Dr_willis> or was it /media/cdrom0
[06:08] <family> any input on ics?
[06:08] <surgy> Dr_willis: yeah and when it tries to open the cd to display its contents it gives the before mentioned error
[06:08] <corinth> Does anyone know if Songbird is stable enough yet to use on a regular basis?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> family,  there used to be a large  'ip-masquerading howto' that showed how to share the network conenction with  a linux box. But there may be more gui-friendly way to do it now a days.
[06:09] <Dr_willis> surgy,  try the shell?
[06:09] <family> and that way would be?
[06:09] <surgy> Dr_willis: whats the defualt mount point of my cd rom?
[06:10] <marx2k> heres a weird KDE question. I have a bunch of samba/cifs sharepoints from a remote server mounted.. along with my always-mounted 500G usb hard drive. They are also automounted from fstab.  But they only show up on the desktop when I mount another USB hard drive.  Why would that happen?
[06:10] <corinth> marx2k: I have the same problem.
[06:10] <Dr_willis> surgy,  if its mounted. ( /media/cdrom :)
[06:10] <marx2k> corinth: have you looked for help before in regards to that?
[06:11] <surgy> Dr_willis: i can see the contents of the cd in the shell, that means dolphin is the devil right?
[06:11] <Dr_willis> I use songbird all the time. No hassles.
[06:11] <Dr_willis> Well Dolphin is... well.. i wont go there.
[06:11] <Dr_willis> surgy,  you point dolphin to /media/cdrom and it still messes up? Thats odd..
[06:11] <lasca1> dr_willis: what do you know about mad-wifi?
[06:11] <Dr_willis> try konqueror ?
[06:12] <surgy> Dr_willis: well im clicking on the cdrom icon that pops up on my desktop when a cd is mounted
[06:12] <family> be back in a minute
[06:12] <Dr_willis> lasca1,  I know to stay away from wireless.. :)
[06:12]  * lasca1 chuckles
[06:12] <Dr_willis> surgy,  DONT click.. enter the 'address/path' of /media/cdrom0
[06:12] <Dr_willis> or /media/cdrom
[06:12] <surgy> i dont even have konq installed
[06:12]  * Dr_willis screams you Kids with all your Klicking! 
[06:12] <surgy> Dr_willis: how do you even do that in dolphin? man i miss konq
[06:13] <marx2k> so use konq
[06:13] <Dr_willis> surgy,  no idea. i dont use dolphin
[06:13] <surgy> Dr_willis: i figured out how to do it but i get the same error
[06:14] <Dr_willis> its weird that its complaining about a simple mountpoint.
[06:14] <acme64> \o/
[06:14] <surgy> can i "sudo apt-get remove dolphin" and then "sudo apt-get install konqueror" to get things back how they should be?
[06:14] <Dr_willis> Install 'mc' use it for a file manager in the shell.. copy stuff over.. then eat the dolphin. :)
[06:14] <Dr_willis> no need to be so drastik
[06:14] <Dr_willis> !dolphin
[06:14] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[06:14] <marx2k> why not just use konq as your default file browser?
[06:15] <surgy> Dr_willis: but my distro didnt even come with konq installed, i need to get it from the repos right?
[06:16] <marx2k> it should have
[06:16] <acme64> ok wth
[06:16] <ForgeAus> konq or krusader :) its all good
[06:16] <acme64> the os is outputting sound fine
[06:16] <acme64> amarok wont
[06:16] <Dr_willis> surgy,  what are you running?
[06:16] <surgy> kubuntu 7.10
[06:17] <Dr_willis> That has Konquer included..
[06:17] <marx2k> that comes with konq
[06:17] <surgy> im not seeing it in the kde menu
[06:17] <marx2k> konq is the default web browser on that
[06:17] <surgy> got it
[06:17] <Dr_willis> never noticed :) i always use the places panel tool.
[06:17] <ForgeAus> marx its actually called konqueror
[06:18] <corinth> I wonder if konqueror is abbreviated konq because no one knows how to spell it... >_>
[06:18] <ForgeAus> konq or konqi is for short :)
[06:18] <marx2k> yep
[06:18] <marx2k> I didnt want to type that out
[06:18] <ForgeAus> corinth apparently some people know how to spell it
[06:18] <surgy> Dr_willis: guess what? it wont open the cdrom with konq either
[06:18] <ForgeAus> abbreviations are handier tho
[06:18] <corinth> ForgeAus: :-P
[06:18] <ForgeAus> they save on typing and save on typos :)
[06:18] <marx2k> I have mental alias file
[06:19] <ForgeAus> I'm one person that does make typos even on words I know how to spell
[06:19] <marx2k> Otherwise I'd be typing K Desktop Environment 4.0 Sucks instead of KDE4 sucks :)
[06:19] <Dr_willis> surgy,  reboot! :)
[06:19] <acme64> you know i tihnk i like kde3 better
[06:19] <ForgeAus> KDE4 != KDE 4.0?
[06:19] <Dr_willis> surgy,  or use the shell to copy the stuff over.
[06:19] <ForgeAus> me too acme, sofar but its early days yet
[06:19] <marx2k> acme: You know, I DO like kde3 better... so far
[06:20] <acme64> i dont like the start menu
[06:20] <surgy> Dr_willis: lol my first day learning kubuntu you told me that "reboot" is the worst word to use in linux
[06:20] <Dr_willis> I just removed the kde4 stuff for now.
[06:20] <acme64> the special effects are nice but rather minor
[06:20] <Dr_willis> surgy,  well some times you need to use a hammer. :)
[06:20] <acme64> and buggy
[06:20] <marx2k> I dont like the start menu either
[06:20] <marx2k> and yeah, its real buggy
[06:20] <acme64> cant change it back can ya?
[06:20] <ForgeAus> like I said its early days yet
[06:20] <marx2k> kdesu doesnt recognize my password so I cant use any graphical apps as root
[06:20] <acme64> better yet
[06:20] <acme64> can i get the oxygen theme on kde3?
[06:20] <surgy> ok later guys
[06:21] <ForgeAus> marx use kdesudo
[06:21] <ForgeAus> (if you have it)
[06:21] <Dr_willis> The panel in kde4 is  just another widget/plasmoid i think.  so it will be tweakable some time.. :)
[06:21] <marx2k> ForgeAus: Whats the difference?
[06:21] <Dr_willis> I think.
[06:21] <acme64> i dont the widgets
[06:21] <acme64> got this big funky border around it
[06:21] <redick> hola
[06:21] <mrtimbo> hi
[06:21] <ForgeAus> marx kdesudo shouldn't be required but for some reason theres a bug in it so kdesu isn't functional  or something so someone told me
[06:21] <Dr_willis> kde4 is all about the plasmaoids.
[06:21] <Dr_willis> for kde4 - use kdesudo
[06:21] <marx2k> ForgeAus: Interesting
[06:22] <Dr_willis> or so i hear. :)
[06:22] <redick> alguien que     hable español
[06:22] <marx2k> Heh thats what I get for editing my own entries in AppLauncher :)
[06:22] <redick> soy nuevo con kubuntu
[06:22] <acme64> dimelo
[06:22] <ForgeAus> Dr Willis was probably he who told me
[06:22] <ForgeAus> It sounds like it may be a temporary measure
[06:22] <NickPresta> !es | redick
[06:22] <ubotu> redick: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[06:22] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  and it was some  op in here that told me. :)
[06:23] <mrtimbo> i installed kubuntu on my dads laptop a few months ago and he just told me thatafter grub  it wont boot unless he holds alt+f1
[06:23] <redick> ke belleza si yo kiero estar aki
[06:23] <Dr_willis> some wrapper that worked around some bugs with kdesu.  or so i was told.
[06:23] <acme64> well ther eu go
[06:23] <ForgeAus> but who am I to posit that? I don't know for sure don't akte my word on anything... I just like to speculate :)
[06:23] <mrtimbo> what do i do
[06:23] <acme64> lol@redick
[06:23] <NickPresta> !english | redick
[06:23] <ubotu> redick: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[06:23] <marx2k> mvtimbo: That sounds a little odd.. At what point does he have to hold alt+f1?
[06:23] <acme64> thats command is rather useless
[06:23] <redick> hola
[06:23] <redick> acme64
[06:23] <NickPresta> !es | redick
[06:23] <ubotu> redick: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[06:23] <mrtimbo> about where it shows the status bar i guess
[06:23] <Dr_willis> alt-f1? Hmm ive seen some laptops that default to the monitor out and not the lcd out.
[06:23] <mrtimbo> and if he doesnt then it wont boot
[06:24] <marx2k> mvtimbo: Oh... but does he get to an X session otr just to terminal?
[06:24] <Dr_willis> sure hes not hitting the special laptop function keys and f1?
[06:24] <mrtimbo> he doesnt get anything
[06:24] <marx2k> Sounds like he's going into TTY1
[06:24] <acme64> how do i make the text in konversation bigger?
[06:24] <Dr_willis> I would disable the splash, and framebuffers for a start. I guess. (i always say that) :)
[06:24] <mrtimbo> the hard drive led does nothing and the screen stays blank
[06:24] <ForgeAus> what happens if you have a disfunctional monitor on a laptop and slice the cable between the keyboard and screen?
[06:25] <marx2k> Acme: Configure/Interface/Fonts
[06:25] <Dr_willis> well night all.
[06:25] <ForgeAus> (using an external vga of course)
[06:25] <acme64> OOOH YEA
[06:25] <mrtimbo> ill check it out tomorrow, i just thought i would ask before i started working on it
[06:25] <acme64> thats the stuff lol
[06:25] <ForgeAus> lol acme
[06:26] <marx2k> mrtimbo:  sounds like his X server is not functional. youll need to check out the logs that X drops (/var/log/Xorg.0.log)
[06:26] <mrtimbo> ok
[06:26] <marx2k> probably a video driver issue
[06:26] <ForgeAus> how different is the /etc dir on an install to the /etc dir on a liveCD?
[06:26] <marx2k> you can probably diagnose by doing "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE" and it should tell you all the errors it encountered
[06:27] <acme64> one more question
[06:27] <acme64> lightscribe app? we have any
[06:27] <redick> español
[06:28] <redick> naaaadie español
[06:28] <marx2k> acme: for CD labeling?
[06:29] <redick> alguien ke hable spain
[06:29] <acme64> yes
[06:29] <acme64> redick, escriba /join #kubuntu-es
[06:30] <marx2k> acme: have you checked to see if k3b does it?
[06:30] <acme64> k3b? whats that
[06:30] <redick> gracias
[06:30] <marx2k> k3b is the Nero of KDE :)
[06:30] <acme64> ic
[06:30] <marx2k> sudo aptitude install k3b
[06:30] <marx2k> !k3b
[06:30] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[06:31] <acme64> dont think it does
[06:31] <acme64> i dont see anything
[06:31] <marx2k> interesting...
[06:32] <trophyhead> hey all : )
[06:32] <marx2k> acme64: http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/linux/index.aspx
[06:33] <trophyhead> <---drops a pin  /   tink!...echo...echo........echo..........
[06:35] <ForgeAus> hehe
[06:35]  * ForgeAus echos that sentiment
[06:35] <ForgeAus> isn't k3b built into kubuntu? no need to install it
[06:36] <trophyhead> my question if any are awake in here : )    when I installed a game it said it was installing 5 programs, then when I uninstalled it only says it's removing 1, so does that mean 4 thing are just floating around useless & taking up my precious MB's  : )
[06:36] <marx2k> ForgetAus: Maybe. I am not sure. Its a pretty large program though so maybe to save on space, it was not included? I have no idea
[06:36] <marx2k> trophy: through what method did you install it?
[06:37] <ForgeAus> actually you can get an app from lightscribe themselves, I think theres a *nix vers... can't quite remember
[06:37] <NickPresta> trophyhead, sudo apt-get autoremove
[06:37] <ForgeAus> I don't know if its built into k3b tho
[06:37] <acme64> what do i do with a deb file?
[06:37] <NickPresta> acme64, sudo dpkg -i DEBFILE.deb
[06:37] <acme64> ty
[06:37] <trophyhead> k nick ill try that thx : )
[06:37] <ForgeAus> I don't think nero has a *nix vers of its lightscribe addon
[06:39] <marx2k> !deb
[06:39] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click (in Ubuntu) or click (in Kubuntu) on them to start the GDebi utility.
[06:39] <trophyhead> marx ther games that come with the kubuntu games , i installed em from there : )
[06:39] <acme64> hey is there like a wildcard command?
[06:39] <marx2k> acme: for what
[06:39] <NickPresta> acme64, *
[06:39] <acme64> sp i can do like debfile8.deb
[06:39] <acme64> err
[06:39] <acme64> debfile*.deb
[06:39] <marx2k> Hmmm
[06:39] <marx2k> you probably want to do it 1 by 1 :0
[06:39] <acme64> cuz it really sucks havin to type out these weird ass package names
[06:40] <marx2k> hit tab to autocomplete filename
[06:40] <acme64> well its the only one in the folder
[06:40] <NickPresta> acme64, yes, also, Tab Completion
[06:40] <acme64> !
[06:40] <acme64> that'll work
[06:40] <marx2k> or just click on them in konqueror
[06:40] <ForgeAus> its not worth looking for borland kylix is it?
[06:40] <marx2k> Damn it! Konqueror keeps crashing when I hit F5 to refresh
[06:40] <marx2k> grrr
[06:40] <ForgeAus> (too much work to install into kubuntu?)
[06:41] <ForgeAus> one way to fix that marx
[06:41] <ForgeAus> don't use f5 :)
[06:41] <marx2k> hahah
[06:41] <marx2k> yeah...
[06:41] <marx2k> ugh
[06:41] <marx2k> Ok.. what I dont get is why Yuakauke is  not installed by default in KDE
[06:41] <marx2k> its the most useful app out there
[06:42] <marx2k> Yakuake I mean
[06:42] <NickPresta> marx2k, sometimes. I used to use it on my laptop that could only do 1024x768. On larger resolutions, I find it easier to just have a Konsole open in the background all the time
[06:42] <ForgeAus> what is it?
[06:43] <NickPresta> ForgeAus, it is a quake style konsole drop down
[06:43] <marx2k> ForgeAus: dropdown terminal on keypress (F12 as default)
[06:43] <acme64> http://www.lacie.com/us/products/product.htm?pid=10803
[06:43] <NickPresta> !info yakuake
[06:43] <ubotu> yakuake: a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 167 kB, installed size 1048 kB
[06:43] <acme64> lightscribe labler
[06:43] <marx2k> NickPresta: Im so used to Yakuake now, I feel odd when I hit F12 and nothign happens
[06:43] <ForgeAus> yup acme that looks like the one
[06:44] <acme64> ok now what do i do with an rpm file
[06:44] <NickPresta> marx2k, I felt like that for a while too, after I stopped using it.
[06:44] <acme64> whoa wtf
[06:44] <acme64> i just moved my entire desktop
[06:45] <marx2k> acme: delete it.. you CAN install rpm files but it's a hassle.. rpm files are for other distributions (redhat)
[06:45] <marx2k> !alien
[06:45] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[06:45] <ForgeAus> I don't get it it just looks like a skinnable terminal window to me
[06:45] <acme64> well thats the only download on the page
[06:45] <marx2k> bogus
[06:45] <marx2k> Forge: You talking about Yakuake?
[06:45] <NickPresta> it's suggested that you don't install RPM archives (via alien). I would imagine it safer to use checkinstall to create a deb...
[06:45] <ForgeAus> yeah marx
[06:45] <NickPresta> !checkinstall
[06:45] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[06:45] <marx2k> ForgeAus: The beauty is the dropdown functionality. F12, you got a terminal... F12 again, it crawls back off screen...
[06:46] <marx2k> but the shell remains open
[06:46] <ForgeAus> so what I can always minimize a window in kde anyway
[06:46] <marx2k> I usually run htop in a yakuake terminal window ... verrrry convenient
[06:46] <marx2k> Forge: yeah but then you have to hunt for it when you want to unmin it
[06:46] <ForgeAus> hunt? well I guess you have a million things in your taskbar
[06:47] <marx2k> ForgeAus: heh.. I guess apps are only as useful as the people who are using them find them :)
[06:47] <ForgeAus> note if you use konsole you only need 1 terminal window on the taskbar anyway if you want more they're tabbed inside it
[06:47] <marx2k> Same with Yakuake
[06:47] <ForgeAus> of course they are
[06:47] <marx2k> tabbed
[06:48] <ForgeAus> I'm not saying yakuake sux I just don't see that I need it
[06:48] <marx2k> Oh.. yeah I understand. Thats why Im saying theyre only useful as you deem them to be
[06:49] <NickPresta> goodnight all. Time for me to sleep.
[06:51] <eatThisAndDie> guys, why is kubuntu using dolphin anyway? Can i remove it and default to konqueror
[06:52] <Daisuke_Ido> !dolphin
[06:52] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[06:52] <acme64> hmm, not sure how this checkinstall works
[06:53] <ForgeAus> they're using Dolphin in order to let Konqueror focus on being a web browser and to have a purpose-built file manager (
[06:54] <ForgeAus> rather than focusing on the integration konqi has
[06:54] <acme64> firefox > knoquror
[06:54] <acme64> konquror
[06:55] <ForgeAus> acme therefore firefox + dolphin means no need for konqi
[06:55] <redick> a question
[06:55] <ForgeAus> redick don't ask to ask, just ask
[06:56] <redick> if i cancel the download actualization
[06:56] <redick> que pasaria
[06:56] <ForgeAus> um I don't speak that language
[06:57] <redick> the sistem is damage?
[06:57] <ForgeAus> the system shouldn't be damaged from quitting a download no
[06:58] <acme64> converting the package to deb worked :p
[06:58] <ForgeAus> converting what package?
[06:58] <acme64> the rpm
[06:58] <ForgeAus> you didn't alien an rpm did you?
[06:59] <ForgeAus> oooh.....
[06:59] <acme64> yes i did
[06:59] <ForgeAus> good luck
[06:59] <acme64> im so bad
[06:59] <acme64> lol
[06:59] <ForgeAus> brave man
[06:59] <acme64> alien then dpkg
[06:59] <acme64> works fine
[06:59] <ForgeAus> dpeends on the rpm
[06:59] <jussi01> !wfm
[06:59] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[06:59] <ForgeAus> also many binary (not source) slackware packages work fine in kubuntu
[07:00] <ForgeAus> but I odn't recommend it
[07:00] <acme64> well not much of an option in this case
[07:00] <ForgeAus> yes well some things are only available as certain package types
[07:00] <acme64> it was either this lacie app or the simple labler..which sux bawlz
[07:01] <eatThisAndDie> anyone know how to set the icon size in the system tray?
[07:01] <ForgeAus> lol I like how the kde4 page says in the bugs section no bugs currently known :)
[07:01] <ForgeAus> hehe on this page: http://www.kde.org/info/4.0.php
[07:01] <jussi01> ForgeAus: hehe
[07:02] <acme64> aww man, i dont have an image editor...bs
[07:02] <ForgeAus> then get one
[07:02] <eatThisAndDie> acme:kolourpaint
[07:03] <eatThisAndDie> simple and easy, basically like MS Paint
[07:03] <acme64> nope
[07:03] <eatThisAndDie> Gimp?
[07:03] <acme64> i got this open office thing
[07:03] <ForgeAus> hehe kde4 live cd for suse 11
[07:06] <acme64> packages i install in kde4
[07:06] <acme64> are they there in kde3
[07:08] <redick> I USE NEROLINUX IS GOOD OR BAD
[07:08] <ForgeAus> ok but not as good as k3b
[07:08] <redick> WHY
[07:09] <ForgeAus> nless it has been recently upgraded a heck of a lot
[07:09] <redick> SO I CHANGE TO K3B
[07:09] <ForgeAus> because k3b is a current project that is being developed and enhanced, nerolinux is old and pretty much stale...  not that its not usable... just that its not as useful
[07:10] <ForgeAus> I recommend that yes, and stop using so many caps
[07:10] <corinth> redick: No need to yell, my friend.
[07:13]  * corinth hears crickets chirping.
[07:13] <acme64> somehow i dragged my desktop around
[07:14] <acme64> now i got a few icons cut off on top
[07:14] <corinth> acme64: Your desktop, or the display on your monitor?
[07:14] <acme64> desktop
[07:14] <acme64> like the wallpaper
[07:15] <corinth> Do you have an auto button on your monitor acme64?
[07:17] <ForgeAus> you can always change your screen res or drag and drop the icons back
[07:18] <acme64> a whay
[07:19] <acme64> what
[07:19] <acme64> i ddint change the res
[07:19] <acme64> but the wallpaper has this white border around the bottom now
[07:19] <ForgeAus> an auto-adjust button .. most LCD monitors have that ability
[07:19] <redick> KUBUNTU AND ROCK THE BEST OF WORLD
[07:20] <ForgeAus> yes redick we all know Kubuntu is good :)
[07:22] <Zealot87> I have a major problem
[07:22] <jussi01> !ask | Zealot87
[07:22] <ubotu> Zealot87: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[07:22] <Zealot87> im just a little shocked
[07:22] <corinth> Spit it out. :P
[07:23] <Zealot87> i wanted to project a movie with an old projector that i have.  i believe the res. is 640x480
[07:23] <Zealot87> i switched on a second screen and said that it was a 640x480 secondary
[07:23] <Zealot87> restart didnt change anything
[07:23] <Zealot87> so i set it as the primary screen
[07:23] <Zealot87> and restart
[07:23] <Zealot87> and now it wont boot x
[07:23] <Zealot87> i cant get anything running because the x server isnt running
[07:24] <Zealot87> i dont know how to fix the problem and then run x server!
[07:24] <Zealot87> i am searching for a needle in a haystack right now
[07:24] <acme64> the screen isn't off
[07:24] <acme64> the taskbar hasnt movied
[07:24] <acme64> its just the wallpaper and the widgets on it
[07:24] <Zealot87> i only have a command line
[07:25] <jussi01> Zealot87: run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:25] <jussi01> acme64: ?
[07:26] <acme64> lol this thing mounted my cd drive to hda
[07:28] <Zealot87> ok now how do i run the x server
[07:28] <jussi01> Zealot87: after doing that you can run: startx
[07:29] <Zealot87> ok kde is running again, thanks alot! now do you know if I can get my screen duped onto this old projector?
[07:29] <acme64> sweet lightscribe is go
[07:29] <jussi01> Zealot87: which card do you have?
[07:30] <Zealot87> an old ati radeon 9200
[07:30] <Zealot87> it sadly didnt make the cut for the nicer drivers
[07:30] <Makuseru> does anyone know the name of the FireFox plugin that lets it emulate another browser/operating system?
[07:30] <jussi01> Zealot87: yes it did!! (I had one of those until recently, and I like the OS driver much better)
[07:31] <Zealot87> well do you know if i can get it to work with this old projector
[07:31] <Zealot87> its connected through s-video
[07:31] <ForgeAus> resetting now trying out a copy of /etc ... I don't think it will work... but better than not having one
[07:32] <acme64> Makuseru: on the tip of my tounge
[07:32] <kadam> What's the name of the KDE on Windows project?
[07:32] <jussi01> !dualhead
[07:32] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[07:32] <jussi01> Zealot87: also look into (google) xrandr
[07:33] <jussi01> !info xrandr
[07:33] <ubotu> xrandr: X Rotation, Reflection and Resize utility. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.2.2-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 23 kB, installed size 84 kB
[07:33] <jussi01> Zealot87: actually, maybe even: man xrandr
[07:35] <acme64> dont suppose theres linux support for the zune?
[07:35] <Zealot87> how do i use xandr?
[07:35] <jussi01> acme64: nope.
[07:35] <jussi01> Zealot87: type in terminal: man xrandr
[07:36] <Zealot87> jussi01: it says "no manual entry for xandr
[07:37] <vzduch> of course not.. how about typing it correctly? :P
[07:37] <jussi01> Zealot87: xrandr
[07:38] <jussi01> ;)
[07:38] <Zealot87> "command not found" :P
[07:38] <Zealot87> ohhhh
[07:38] <Zealot87> hahahaha
[07:39] <Zealot87> ok it's a manuel
[07:39] <Zealot87> manual*
[07:39] <Zealot87> what do i do with it?
[07:40] <vzduch> read it
[07:40] <jussi01> Zealot87: what do you usually do with a manual ;)
[07:40] <acme64> meta+control+s
[07:40] <acme64> wtf is meta
[07:41] <Zealot87> ugh
[07:44] <acme64> lightscribe is alot faster in linux then on windows
[07:44] <acme64> 2x id say
[07:45] <corinth> anyone know where the opensuse irc channels are hosted? What network?
[07:46] <jussi01> Zealot87: you need a hand? ;) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=581947
[07:46] <vzduch> corinth: /j #suse
[07:47] <jussi01> acme64: winkey?
[07:49] <spiroo> How do I install kde4 inside kubuntu?
[07:50] <jussi01> !kde4 | spiroo
[07:50] <ubotu> spiroo: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[07:51] <acme64> i sen a video where you hold something and with the mouse u can drag the desktop around like  a cube, and each side is another virtual desktop
[07:51] <acme64> how can i do that
[07:53] <jussi01> !compiz | acme64
[07:53] <ubotu> acme64: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[07:53] <jussi01> acme64: you on kde 3.5 or kde4 ?
[07:53] <acme64> 4
[07:54] <acme64> sweet lightscribe works perfect
[07:55] <acme64> brb
[07:55] <fizzz> anybody up ?
[07:55] <jussi01> fizzz: YEP
[07:56] <Lynoure> fizzz: you need help with something?
[07:56] <fizzz> just installed linux mce and its giveing me some orbiter failed to setup transparency any ideas ??
[07:56] <jussi01> fizzz: we dont support linux mce here
[07:56] <jussi01> !variant | fizzz
[07:56] <ubotu> fizzz: The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: Linux Mint, LinuxMCE, Ubuntu Ultimate.
[07:57] <fizzz> any idea if they have a chat room like this ?
[07:57]  * Ange|us morning
[07:57] <jussi01> fizzz: more than likely they do, but their website should say...
[07:57] <fizzz> i been trying to install my nvidea driver for linux not haveing much luck with that
[07:59] <jussi01> fizzz: I dont know what linux mce has, but on kubuntu it is a relatively simple proceedure.
[07:59] <romunov> hum, kde4 isnt' that compatible with its previous version
[08:00] <romunov> if you rename a menu, it doesnt recognize its icon
[08:00] <acme64> ok wtf im gettin no audio
[08:00] <romunov> and the wrap around the desktop icons is jumping around
[08:00] <acme64> i think this thing defaulted to my onboard soundcard
[08:00] <acme64> instead of my audigy
[08:00] <jussi01> romunov: kde4 is in #kubuntu-kde4 ;)
[08:03] <kadam> Does anyone know what the qt4-designer package contains?
[08:04] <stdin> kadam: "dpkg -L qt4-designer" too see, or look on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[08:04] <romunov> jussi01: i'm just saying.. not trying to resolve anything :>
[08:04] <emilsedgh> kalorin: it containt the Qt designer i think
[08:04] <emilsedgh> oh
[08:04] <emilsedgh> kadam: ^
[08:05] <kadam> emilsedgh: Hehheh, well, I knew that much 8)  Does anyone know what I need to start developing for KDE4?
[08:05] <kadam> stdin: ty
[08:06] <stdin> kadam: a good start is the "kde4-devel" package ;)
[08:06] <fizzz> hey if my driver file is a .run file what should i do with it ?
[08:06] <jussi01> fizzz: ./filename.run
[08:06] <jussi01> in terminal
[08:06] <stdin> fizzz: if you have some ubuntu variant install the package
[08:06] <kadam> stdin: Haha, alright, thanks 8)
[08:07] <jussi01> morning stdin :)
[08:07] <fizzz> but i thought u had to install kubuntu first
[08:07] <stdin> jussi01: yes, it is :p
[08:07] <stdin> fizzz: try it and see
[08:07] <stdin> better than installing the .run when you don't know what the drawbacks are
[08:08] <stdin> (and there are a few)
[08:08] <fizzz> well i did ysterday and it said no go no worky
[08:08] <stdin> have you tried the -legacy or -new packages too?
[08:09] <fizzz> well it was a ubuntu dvd i burnt a few weeks ago
[08:15] <flamesage> Hello.
[08:15] <flamesage> hello.
[08:15] <flamesage> Anyone alive in here?
[08:15] <jussi01> I am...
[08:15] <flamesage> Have you by any chance tried Alpha 3 for Ubuntu Hardy yet?
[08:16] <jussi01> fizzz: you can try /join #linuxmce ... there are a few people there
[08:16] <jussi01> flamesage: nope, but you may get better help in #ubuntu+1
[08:17] <jussi01> although, now is a kinda quiet time...
[08:17] <flamesage> yeah..
[08:17] <flamesage> That's why I kind of came here.. lol
[08:17] <flamesage> It's 3 am
[08:17] <flamesage> I really need to sleep :(
[08:17] <flamesage> *sighs*
[08:17]  * jussi01 kicks flamesage so he can sleep..
[08:18] <flamesage> Hmm
[08:18] <flamesage> I love Kubuntu but..
[08:18] <flamesage> I just feel "Ubuntu" is more offical..
[08:18] <flamesage> I've reinstalled Ubuntu / Kubuntu like.. 4 times in the same day x_x  I can't make up my mind.  lol
[08:19] <jussi01> flamesage: join me in #ubuntu+1 and we can try sort whatever out if you like...
[08:19] <flamesage> ok
[08:21] <eatThisAndDie> flamesage: isn't it possible to install Ubuntu and then install KDE
[08:21] <girolamo> !italiano
[08:21] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:21] <flamesage> yeah but..
[08:21] <eatThisAndDie> OR install Kubuntu and then install Gnome
[08:21] <flamesage> Then menus get cluttered and I just like one or the other :D
[08:22] <eatThisAndDie> well... the option is to set which programs gets viewed in each
[08:23] <eatThisAndDie> dudes, anyone with any idea why the icons in my systray just so suddenly got bigger?
[08:24] <flamesage> what version / WM are you using?
[08:24] <flamesage> It's called puberty.. lol
[08:24] <eatThisAndDie> ....
[08:24] <eatThisAndDie> 7.10
[08:24] <flamesage> what window manager?
[08:24] <eatThisAndDie> i assume the WM is kWin
[08:24] <eatThisAndDie> how do i check anyway?
[08:24] <flamesage> hmmm dont know
[08:25] <eatThisAndDie> dont know... which WM is defult? or how to change the icon size
[08:25] <jussi01> eatThisAndDie: ctrl + esc see if kwin is running
[08:25] <eatThisAndDie> yeah it is
[08:25] <eatThisAndDie> jussi01:so now i know which WM... what now?
[08:26] <eatThisAndDie> the config file i know is in ~/.kde/share/config
[08:26] <jussi01> eatThisAndDie: what did you do to cause it/just beore it happened?
[08:27] <eatThisAndDie> i think it was rite after i set some icons to be not visible
[08:27] <eatThisAndDie> as in you gotta click the arrow to view it.
[08:27] <indystorm> hi
[08:27] <indystorm> how do I change the resolution on this thing?
[08:27] <acme64> thanks for all the help guys im goin to bed
[08:27] <jussi01> !fixresolution
[08:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixresolution - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <jussi01> !fixvideoresolution
[08:28] <eatThisAndDie> indystorm: system settings > monitor and resolution
[08:28]  * jussi01 waits...
[08:28] <eatThisAndDie> sorry.. monitor and display
[08:29] <jussi01> !fixvideoresolution
[08:29] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:29]  * eatThisAndDie wonders if indystorm is still there..
[08:31] <eatThisAndDie> jussi01: any ideas?
[08:31] <eatThisAndDie> i mean.. the icons in the panel can be scaled, what about in the system tray?
[08:32] <jussi01> eatThisAndDie: nope, I thought they were scaled to the panel size
[08:32] <jussi01> there is an option to put them on 2 lines iirc...
[08:33] <eatThisAndDie> jussi01: YES that will be great too. If i could find it....
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[08:36]  * ActionParsnip waves
[08:44] <family> hey guys how do i set up internet connection sharing on kubuntu?
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> family, let me google :)
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> family, you not got a router?
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> family,heres a good guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370 but i'd suggest getting a router, its easier and provides extra security
[08:49] <family> i have a router but its down stairs
[08:49] <family> and im up stairs and im going to give my xbox wireless connection
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> family, is it not wireless?
[08:51] <family> action no
[08:51] <family> my xbox connects to my computer through a crossover cable
[08:51] <family> i have a wireless card on this computer
[08:52] <family> so im going to ics my eth0 to wlan so my xbox can get wireless connection
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> family, ok i get what you have got :)
[08:52] <family> :)
[08:52] <family> so so nice lol and my box is nice and modded
[08:52] <family> okay so now im off to do some reading
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> family, the walkthrough seems ok enogh, its fairly well documented
[08:53] <family> cool
[08:53] <family> :) thanks so much
[08:54] <fizzz_> can somebody help me with my video driver install for kubuntu ??
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> fizzz, what graphics card do you have
[08:55] <fizzz_> geforece 8400 gs
[08:55] <fizzz_> i got to the install screen and it says i need to be root to install
[08:56] <fizzz_> ERROR: nvidia-installer must be run as root
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> fizzz, run the app with sudo
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> fizzz, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[08:56] <roel_> anyone knows howto install kdepim-kde4??? there seems to be a problem with libgif4 libungif4g
[08:57] <fizzz_> so sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.07-pkg1
[08:57] <fizzz_> ??
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> fizzz, yes if you have the hing from nvidia
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> fizzz, the one in the repos is usually ok
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> fizzz, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:58] <fizzz_>  You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
[08:58] <fizzz_>          installing.
[08:59] <roel_> @fizz_, so exit X
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> fizzz, yeah you need to swich down to command line to run it
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> fizzz, i'd use the driver in the repos. its easier to install by loads
[09:01] <fizzz_> repos  ??
[09:01] <roel_> second try: anyone knows howto install kdepim-kde4??? there seems to be a problem with libgif4 libungif4g
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> fizzz, repositories, where you download the thing from the internet
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> roel_, no idea man, try www.google.com
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> !pim
[09:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> !kdepim
[09:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdepim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:02] <roel_> @actionparsnip tried google extensively already
[09:02] <roel_> @ubotu will do
[09:03] <roel_> thx anyway
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> fizzz, if you follow that link i posted for you, you should be ok
[09:03] <jussi01> roel_: its currently broken afaik. and fyi kde4 support is in #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[09:04] <roel_> ah thx
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> its funny when people talk to the bot :D
[09:11] <jussi01> !thanks | ActionParsnip
[09:12] <ubotu> ActionParsnip: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[09:12] <jussi01> and it talks to you :P
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> !freemoney | ActionParsnip
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> bah ;
[09:13] <Sbucatone> where is documentation channel
[09:13] <dappermuis> anyone know how to get alt+tab to work in kde 4.0.0
[09:14] <dappermuis> Sbucatone: ubunut-doc
[09:14] <dappermuis> Sbucatone: #ubuntu-doc
[09:14] <Sbucatone> thank
[09:14] <dappermuis> np
[09:14] <nordseebaer> guten morgen
[09:15] <Sbucatone> dappermuis: it seems kd4 eats lesss resorces ? right or not ?
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> Sbucatone, apparently so (I've seen someone quote 60%)
[09:16] <dappermuis> Sbucatone: Hmmm...it appears so. I only installed it last night, and im using all the window decorations, and its running really smooth
[09:33] <ZeBarbu> hello world. Just a little question: is hardy in a 'useable' state right now?
[09:33] <llutz> it's alpha for testers
[09:34] <ZeBarbu> yes, I know
[09:34] <ZeBarbu> but is it useable (to test ;) )
[09:34] <ZeBarbu> ?
[09:34] <ZeBarbu> some alpha are completly broken, and some other are quite functionnal.
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> ZeBarbu, why do you want it?
[09:36] <stdin> ZeBarbu: if you don't know how to use the more advanced features of apt/dpkg, then do not even think about installing hardy
[09:37] <ZeBarbu> hey, guys, I KNOW all that, I just ask if the current state is useable or completly broken
[09:37] <stdin> then as in the right place, #ubuntu+1
[09:38] <ZeBarbu> ok, that's the answer I needed ;)
[09:38] <ZeBarbu> thanks
[09:38] <stdin> and don't forget to  read the topic there
[09:39] <ZeBarbu> stdin: ok, the topic is very nice ;)
[09:41] <jack_> is there any way to stop konqueror/dolphin choking hard and displaying wrong values in directories with huge amounts of files?
[09:42] <mickael_> bonjour
[09:42] <blizzzek> hi
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[10:34] <sigma_1234> how do you install a nfs client?
[10:34] <jussi01> !ns
[10:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ns - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:34] <jussi01> !nfs
[10:34] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[10:35] <jussi01> cant type today... sigh
[10:37] <mohi> hi guyz... :)
[10:37] <ganesh> sup?
[10:37] <mohi> I have problem with pakage manager! It says: Kpackage requires the SMART Package Manager to be installed in order to function
[10:37] <mohi> what should I do?
[10:38] <mohi> (kubuntu kde4)
[10:38] <ganesh> why use KPackage?
[10:38] <ganesh> use Adept
[10:38] <noiesmo> turned on my pc this morning and get this when trying to boot it repeats it self then just hangs (162.526738)ata.01 : cmd c8/00 : 08:00 : 2D :C9/00 : 00:00 : 00:00/F4 /TAG 0 cd3 0x0 data 4096 in
[10:38] <ganesh> but mohi
[10:38] <ganesh> how did you get KDE4?
[10:38] <jussi01> mohi: kde4 -> #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[10:42] <dappermuis> mohi: also see the latest announcement on the kubuntu website
[10:52] <paolita> hello
[10:57] <Sajes> How do I change the layout scheme? There's a thing that popped up saying "KDE, Unix, Windows," etc. I accidentally chose the wrong one.
[10:59] <_luke_> Sajes: try running "kpersonalizer" - that is the app which pops up the first time you login
[10:59] <Sajes> _luke_: thanks.
[11:04] <xgoonerx> hello ... i need a help ...
[11:05] <xgoonerx> i'm trying to  instal Kubuntu 7.10 on my secondary slave drive
[11:05] <xgoonerx> i have WinXP on my privary drive
[11:05] <xgoonerx> after installing and everything ... i can't boot
[11:05] <xgoonerx> it stucks on Grub
[11:06] <jussi01> xgoonerx: what is the error?
[11:06] <xgoonerx> i tried changing the booting priority by changing the drive order... still it wont boot... MBR error 1 and continously
[11:06] <xgoonerx> jussi : i'm a nubie ... i dont know anything about ubuntu ..this is my first time installing
[11:06] <xgoonerx> i made EXT3 and SWAP partition on my secondary drive
[11:07] <xgoonerx> it stucks on Grun loading ..please wait ... but my HDD doesnt blink ..
[11:07] <xgoonerx> it wont boot to ubuntu or winxp ...
[11:07] <jussi01> xgoonerx: so it doesnt give you a grub error at all?
[11:07] <xgoonerx> no
[11:08] <jussi01> xgoonerx: Im going to get the bot to give you a link to reinstalling grub, go and ollow the instructions there
[11:08] <xgoonerx> i tried searching on google... but still i cant find the solution for my problem
[11:08] <jussi01> !grub
[11:08] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:08] <xgoonerx> i have reisntalled grub
[11:08] <xgoonerx> i tried the sudo grub thingy
[11:09] <xgoonerx> i did this already
[11:09] <Odd-rationale> How do I switch between network connections?
[11:09] <xgoonerx> i did this after fixing my MBR from the winxp boot cd
[11:09] <xgoonerx> i wonder... is it because i didnt installed ubuntu on the primary drive ?
[11:10] <jussi01> xgoonerx: Im not really sure, Im sorry.
[11:10] <xgoonerx> i tried changing the hdd jumper aswell... i made my winxp drive to SLAVE .... and put the ubuntu as a master drive ...but still the same error
[11:11] <xgoonerx> any help will be appreciated ... i really want to use kubuntu now
[11:11] <xgoonerx> thx for your help jussi
[11:11] <Agent_bob> xgoonerx what's the issue/question ?
[11:12] <xgoonerx> agent : i need to install kubuntu on my secondary drive
[11:12] <Agent_bob> Odd-rationale knetworkmanager  maybe ?
[11:12] <Agent_bob> xgoonerx and ?
[11:12] <xgoonerx> i did that already ... but it is stuck on GRUB
[11:12] <Odd-rationale> Agent_bob: I'm looking there. The solution is excaping me...
[11:13] <Odd-rationale> Right now i'm on my neighbor's wireless. I'm trying to switch to my own.
[11:13] <xgoonerx> agent bob : would you be so kind to read my previous chat with jussi up above :) thx
[11:13] <Agent_bob> xgoonerx then the issues is with grub and not with installing ubuntu.    now. is there any number with the startup error ?
[11:13] <xgoonerx> agent : no :( that's the problem ... it just stuck right there
[11:14] <jussi01> Odd-rationale: you should be able to right click on the icon in the tray, then select a network...
[11:14] <xgoonerx> i hate to imagine if it's my hdd which is the problem :(
[11:14] <xgoonerx> agent : is it necessary for me to install kubuntu on my primary drive ? to avoid suck grub errors ?
[11:15] <xgoonerx> such
[11:15] <Agent_bob> no
[11:15] <Odd-rationale> jussi01: That's what I thought. But none are showing up. Perhpas because it is in a manual conf. How do I change?
[11:16] <Agent_bob> xgoonerx it may be necessary to tell grub the bios order of the devices though
[11:16] <xgoonerx> agent : is it my partition ?  i made EXT3 and SWAP on the secondary drive (slave... i set the jumper to master... it wont fix it aswell)
[11:16] <xgoonerx> agent : how can i do that ?  i tried to set the drive priority on bios ...but it wont fix this
[11:17] <xgoonerx> bios order of the device ..... but not on grub
[11:17] <xgoonerx> how can i tell grub ?
[11:19] <paolo_>  Hi. how can I launch an application ad keep it always in evidence (if it's not resized) ?
[11:19] <paolo_> (a gui application)
[11:20] <stdin> "in evidence" ?
[11:21] <paolo_> stdin: sorry for the expression, i dunno how to translate it
[11:21] <Agent_bob> if you change the bios order of the drives you confuse the snot out of grub.   let me succently explain. bios loads when you power on the machine, then it finds it's boot device first floppy, first cdrom, first hdd,  what ever it's setup for.  and starts reading the boot disk.  if it's an hdd the MBR tell bios what file/sector to load.  when using grub that will point to the /boot/grub/stage1*
[11:21] <stdin> paolo_: you can always ask in #kubuntu-it
[11:21] <paolo_> stdin: it means that it must be shown always
[11:22] <sonoftheclayr> paolo_: like always on top?
[11:22] <stdin> paolo_: right-click the title bar -> Advanced -> Always on top
[11:22] <stdin> it may be called more like "keep above others" in other locales
[11:22] <stdin> depends on the translation
[11:23] <paolo_> stdin: perfect but
[11:23] <paolo_> how can i set this when launching?
[11:23] <paolo_> (without setting it manually)
[11:23] <Agent_bob> now if you change the bios addressing of a device then when the MBR loads and looks for the bios addressed file/sector it won't be the stage1* that it's supposed to be.   now that having been said.   go back to the link ubotu sent you and read up on grub a little more.  if you don't see the obvious solution.   boot the linux liveCD and come back here.  i'll do what i can xgoonerx
[11:24] <Agent_bob> !grub
[11:24] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:24] <stdin> paolo_: look in the special application settings
[11:24] <stdin> paolo_: should be in the same "Advanced" menu
[11:25] <xgoonerx> agent : thx alot for your explanations ! i'm at the office right now... i'm on my way home ... i hope i still can see you here later...
[11:25] <xgoonerx> thx everyone ...
[11:25] <xgoonerx> have a great day
[11:25] <Agent_bob> for a while. yes.
[11:25] <xgoonerx> 6:25 PM here
[11:25] <ubuntu_> ok
[11:25] <Agent_bob> and shalom.
[11:26] <ubuntu_> love you
[11:26] <ubuntu_> ehhehe
[11:26] <xgoonerx> maybe i'll be back online around 8
[11:26] <xgoonerx> bye
[11:26] <ubuntu_> my name is mathias
[11:26] <ubuntu_> whats your name
[11:27] <Agent_bob> !ot | ubuntu_
[11:27] <ubotu> ubuntu_: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:27] <ubuntu_> tahnks
[11:27] <ubuntu_> thanks
[11:28] <girolamo> !italiano
[11:28] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:30] <paolo_> stdin: thnks
[11:31] <Odd-rationale> How do I set knetworkmanager to not use a manual configuration?
[11:33] <Sajes> Question. I want to make a panel devoted to be like a quicklaunch bar on my middle-left side of the monitor. Whenever I right click it after making it to configure it, it tries to configure my main panel instead of the new one. I'm on gutsy gibbon and kde 3.5
[11:34] <dhq> i have ntfs partiton on my system how do i resize it so as to make space for my ext3
[11:34] <Sajes> dhq: qparted gparted, fdisk or cfdisk.
[11:35] <dhq> Sajes: qtpated errors
[11:35] <Sajes> dhq: if it contains windows on it, be sure to defrag before resizing.
[11:36] <Agent_bob> turn off pagefile and defrag
[11:36] <Agent_bob> you can turn it back on afterwards
[11:37] <Sajes> So anyone got any ideas why it tries to configure the wrong panel?
[11:38] <dhq> how is kde4 anyone tried it
[11:38] <Agent_bob> Sajes don't know your version.   but try selecting the pannel you want to config from within the configurator
[11:40] <Sajes> Agent_bob: there's no option to do that.
[11:40] <Agent_bob> Sajes there was also a bug in kde.  you may have to logout and back in after making the panel befor it will work correctly
[11:40] <Sajes> Agent_bob: thanks, I'll try that.
[11:41] <Agent_bob> Sajes the otpion is on one of the tabs    not all of them.
[11:41] <Sajes> Agent_bob: that worked. Thanks :)
[11:41] <Agent_bob> but it affects all of them.
[11:41] <Agent_bob> welcome.
[11:41] <jussi01> dhq: kde4 -> #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[11:47] <Agent_bob> hmmm this is not right.   if i run startkde all it does is closes my konsole
[11:47] <Agent_bob> LTS that ^
[11:50] <Agent_bob> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d284c1e25
[11:51] <Agent_bob> there's why ^   so i supose that kwin or startkde is coded to not start in a window ?
[11:52] <Agent_bob> and startkde is definitely coded to not start from a console    so how is one supposed to start kde with out using a dm ?
[11:59] <Gidean> Hi all...
[12:00] <Gidean> can't seem to find a clear answer using google: how do I run a .py script from the CL?
[12:00] <funcrush> Location of cursor in konsole is odd. How can I fix it? (you can see that http://cfs5.tistory.com/upload_control/download.blog?fhandle=YmxvZzU3NzA1QGZzNS50aXN0b3J5LmNvbTovYXR0YWNoLzAvMDUwMDAwMDAwMDAwLnBuZw==)
[12:00] <Gidean> Please.
[12:01] <Agent_bob> gibean /path/to/script.py   ?
[12:01] <Agent_bob> or python /path/to/script.py    maybe even.
[12:01] <Gidean> if I'm in the directory, do I have to include the path?
[12:02] <Agent_bob> use   ./
[12:02] <Gidean> Thought it was Python *.py
[12:02] <Gidean> Agent: I did and I got the * is a directory (it isn't)
[12:02] <Agent_bob> lowercase.    unless you have a Python executable in your path.     all things are case sensitive
[12:03] <Gidean> Ahh..indeed. It's late and I may have been using the uppercase...
[12:03] <Gidean> brb
[12:05] <Gidean> LOL...using capital P the whole time.
[12:05] <Gidean> Time to get some sleep...
[12:05] <Gidean> Thanks a bunch, Agent_bob...
[12:05] <Gidean> cheers and g'night....
[12:06] <dhq> Sajes: i just finished defragmenting
[12:06] <dhq> Sajes: now
[12:08] <albatross_> I've made a profile with the help of kiosktool, but now that's stopped working for whatever reason. I need to change the file associations for PDF, since users cant open them from the desktop. How do I go about doing that?
[12:08] <albatross_> Using Kubuntu 7.04
[12:08] <Sajes> dhq: Try resizing it with gparted.
[12:09] <Agent_bob> make sure it's noy mounted
[12:11] <ct529> hi everybody
[12:12] <ct529> I would like to synchornise two directories between 2 computers so that the content of the directories is merged (at file level) every time I click a button
[12:12] <ct529> is that possible on 7.10?
[12:13] <llutz> ct529: use rsync (button made with kommander-script maybe)
[12:14] <shampoo> or a cronjob maybe (no button anymore :D)
[12:16] <shampoo> ct529: for syncronizing i use rsync
[12:17] <ct529> llutz: shampoo thanks. does it need one of the directory to be empty or may I start with 2 full directory and the software opeartes a merge?
[12:17] <Agent_bob> isn't there also some "kitchensync" thingy ?
[12:17] <ct529> Agent_bob: kitchensync?
[12:17] <llutz> ct529: they don't need to be empty
[12:18] <Agent_bob> !info kitchensync
[12:18] <ubotu> kitchensync: Synchronization framework. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.7enterprise20070926-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 328 kB, installed size 1100 kB
[12:18] <Agent_bob> !info ksync
[12:18] <ubotu> Package ksync does not exist in gutsy
[12:18] <Agent_bob> !info ksync dapper
[12:18] <ubotu> ksync: KDE Sync. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 61 kB, installed size 240 kB
[12:19] <Agent_bob> they discontinued that one.
[12:20] <llutz> a rsync gui = grsync, but gtk :((
[12:20] <Agent_bob> don't like gnome tool kit ?
[12:21] <llutz> would i use Kubuntu if i like that much? ;)
[12:21] <Agent_bob> llutz idk many do.
[12:21] <ct529> llutz: is there any kde gui interface?
[12:21] <llutz> ct529: i don't know any
[12:21] <girolamo> !italiano
[12:21] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:21] <mau> hi, i have no sound, is there a wiki page about this? don't want do bother you with all my noob questions
[12:22]  * ct529 installin grsync
[12:22] <llutz> "gnome is ugly!" imho, sry </ot>
[12:22] <ct529> mau: audio card?
[12:22] <bazhang> !sound | mau
[12:22] <ubotu> mau: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:23] <funcrush> I can't take a screenshot with "Print Screen" key in KDE4. anyone can help me?
[12:23] <Odd-rationale> When I try to plug in my ext HDD, I get this: hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000. How do I fix this? Thanks!
[12:24] <jussi01> funcrush: kde4 -> #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[12:24] <ct529> llutz: not bad grsync
[12:24] <Odd-rationale> I can mount it from the command line, though
[12:25] <funcrush> jussi01: Thank you :)
[12:25] <mau> !sound
[12:25] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:25] <ct529> llutz: what about using a p2p versioning tool like git or mergury?
[12:25] <Agent_bob> llutz just a thought on that though.  just because gnome is ugly, has nothing to do with whether one uses a gtk app or not.   ends can justify the means.
[12:25] <llutz> ct529: i never used, sry
[12:27] <llutz> Agent_bob: i  haven't seen a "nice" gtk-Gui during the last 12 yrs using linux-systems. That's just  _my_ personal opinion
[12:27] <Agent_bob> :)
[12:27] <voonte> Is this (http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/) the guide read to get into packaging in kubuntu?
[12:28] <Odd-rationale> brb
[12:29] <ibou> hi
[12:29] <mau> sound is working now, thx
[12:29] <ibou> how to install flash on konqueror ?
[12:30] <Agent_bob> !contribute | voonte this page is all i know.
[12:30] <ubotu> voonte this page is all i know.: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[12:30] <Agent_bob> !flash | ibou
[12:30] <ubotu> ibou: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[12:30] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[12:31] <mau> another question: in windows i can configure some actions with clicking in the corner of my touchpad. is this possible with kubuntu?
[12:31] <ibou> thanks
[12:31] <voonte> Agent_bob: thanks, I'll check that page out.
[12:34] <ibou> !Restricted
[12:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:37] <jussi01> !touchpad | mau
[12:37] <ubotu> mau: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[12:38] <chakie_work> is there any news regarding when flash might work again in gutsy?
[12:38] <chakie_work> it's been non-working now for weeks and it gets a little bit annoying
[12:39] <chakie_work> especially the "crash handlers" that konqueror spits at every page that contains flash
[12:41] <dwhite> morning ...
[12:41] <dwhite> I added kde4 to my kubuntu 7.10 machine to test it.  Now I want to remove it and wait for 4.1.  Is there a recommended safe way to remove it and clear the kde4 apps out of my menu?  Is it as easy as apt-get remove kde4?
[12:41] <jussi01> chakie_work: there is a workaround i you really want
[12:41] <jussi01> dwhite: kde4 -> #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[12:41] <chakie_work> jussi01: if i don't totally anal probe my system in the process i'd be happy to try it
[12:42] <dwhite> thanks
[12:42] <g2g591> dwhite: sudo apt-get purge whateverkde4packagesgotpulledin
[12:42] <jussi01> !flash | chakie_work
[12:42] <ubotu> chakie_work: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[12:42] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[12:42] <dwhite> thks g2g591
[12:42] <ct529> I had a go with rsync, but the result is that only one of the directory get synchronised
[12:43] <jussi01> !rsync
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rsync - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:45]  * ct529 going for lunch
[12:47] <chakie_work> jussi01: ok, that forum thread was a mess. i'll stick with the mac for web browsing for now
[12:47] <chakie_work> jussi01: thanks for the help
[12:48] <jussi01> chakie_work: ok :)
[12:49] <chakie_work> slightly annoying though
[12:49] <jussi01> chakie_work: understand completely :(
[12:49] <habdel> hi there, libqt4-debug doesn't match the current libqt package ! so there is no way to install it
[12:49] <chakie_work> jussi01: of course the blame rests solely on the hands of adobe
[12:51] <habdel> where shall I report this bug ?
[12:54] <Hunkennalle> whats the major differances between kubuntu, debian and gentoo?
[12:54] <stdin> Hunkennalle: #kubuntu-offtopic is a better place to ask, not here
[12:54] <Hunkennalle> ok
[12:54] <Agent_bob> defaults  debian/*buntu   but packaging system */gentoo
[12:57] <Agent_bob> !bug | habdel
[12:57] <ubotu> habdel: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[13:02]  * habdel solved the problem, it was in synaptic's preferences to install old packages than the new ones
[13:05] <Agent_bob> hmmm i can't seem to make a dir with a newline in the name ???
[13:06] <Agent_bob> mkdir "`echo -e '\tthis is a dir \n with newline + name ; \n'`"
[13:06] <Agent_bob> then ls.   no newline only unknown chars
[13:07] <Pici> Why would you want a directory with a newline in it?
[13:08] <Agent_bob> Pici why not ?
[13:08] <Agent_bob> for that matter why with spaces or \ ???
[13:10] <muesli_> hey guys, i'm trying to update my system with apt-get, but somehow the status file seems broken from a previous (broken) update
[13:10] <muesli_> i currently get "E: read, still have 1 to read but none left" at the end of every apt-get update
[13:10] <muesli_> what can i do to resolve it?
[13:11] <Agent_bob> dpkg --configure -a
[13:11] <angasule> kopete in kubuntu gutsy doesn't have jingle support compiled in, I gather?
[13:11] <Agent_bob> apt-get install -f
[13:12] <muesli_> Agent_bob: nope, that's when apt-get install broke
[13:12] <muesli_> Agent_bob: the apt-get install finished fine, but left with a somewhat broken /var/lib/dpkg/status file
[13:13] <Agent_bob> muesli_ what does   sudo dpkg --configure -a    return ?
[13:13] <muesli_> Agent_bob: just finishes, no output
[13:13] <Agent_bob> and the other one ?
[13:13] <muesli_> status code equals 9 too
[13:13] <muesli_> the other one?
[13:13] <muesli_> apt-get update?
[13:14] <Agent_bob> sudo apt-get install -f
[13:14] <muesli_> "E: read, still have 1 to read but none left"
[13:14] <muesli_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[13:15] <Agent_bob> sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:15] <muesli_> Agent_bob: yeah, i tried that as well already :(
[13:16] <Agent_bob> that doesn't tell me it's output ?
[13:16] <muesli_> heh sorry, same as for apt-get install -f
[13:17] <Agent_bob> then either A. you have built a broken package and installed it.   B. you have non-ubuntu repos in your sources.list   C. you found a bug.
[13:17] <muesli_> i go for C ;-)
[13:18] <muesli_> it's basically a fresh gutsy install
[13:18] <Agent_bob> !bug
[13:18] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[13:19] <Agent_bob> muesli_    dpkg -l | grep -v ii        pastebin that for me
[13:19] <lavid> so, when i try to start kde4 i get "Could not start kdeinit4. Check your installation." I think it's due to constantly installing bleeding edge versions of kde4 without any luck and maybe the un-installation didn't quite work. Any thoughts?
[13:19] <muesli_> Agent_bob: sorry, thanks for all your help, but i gotta run now, i'll be back in 30 minutes. thanks again
[13:20] <Agent_bob> umm hmm.
[13:21] <muesli_> Agent_bob: in the end, i _should_ be able to figure it out myself even. i just wondered if anyone just knew the solution
[13:21] <muesli_> my next try now would be updating to some other repository
[13:21] <muesli_> and then go back
[13:21] <muesli_> to make sure it's redownloading all the packages
[13:21] <Agent_bob> muesli_    dpkg -l | grep -v ii    <<<
[13:22] <Agent_bob> if something has a bad status    that should show it.
[13:22] <Agent_bob> muesli_    dpkg -l | grep -v ' ii '     < more percise
[13:23] <Agent_bob> muesli_    dpkg -l | grep -v 'ii '     < more percise
[13:23] <Agent_bob> ooops   ;/
[13:29] <Agent_bob> i see we are not going to get a look at his package status
[13:29] <Agent_bob> oh well.
[13:30] <Agent_bob> i'm went.    gooday fellas
[13:38] <Downix> Ok, flash doesn't work anymore, what the heck??
[13:38] <sebastian^> good morning folks
[13:40] <ubuntu_> hello... im trying to install kubuntu, but i cant :(
[13:41] <ubuntu_> Can someone help me
[13:41] <ubuntu_> Sveiki visiem
[13:41] <selckin> only if you explain the problem
[13:41] <ubuntu_> i cannot install kubuntu :(
[13:41] <torangan> hi
[13:42] <selckin> ubuntu_: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html read
[13:42] <ubuntu_> maybe disc is damaged or what... it seem that everything ok
[13:42] <Downix> ubuntu_: Well, what is it not doing, exactly?
[13:42] <torangan> I tried to switch XUbuntu to KUbuntu by installing kubuntu-desktop but I still get the Xfce WM. What did I miss? :-)
[13:42] <ubuntu_> it shows that install has finished, but when I restart PC it is not work
[13:43] <xgoonerx> hey guys ... i need a help ..
[13:43] <xgoonerx> i've installed kubuntu 7.10 on my secondary drive
[13:43] <ubuntu_> I like linux better than windows :)
[13:43] <xgoonerx> but my computer always boot to winxp ...
[13:44] <xgoonerx> when i switch the boot drive prioty to the secondary drive ... it stucks on Grub loading
[13:44] <ubuntu_> my PC have 2 hdd, and 2 OS, but PC open just second drive why?
[13:45] <Downix> ubuntu_ what was on the disk before you installed it?
[13:45] <Downix> xgoonerx: Did you install Grub to the primary drive to enable dual-booting?
[13:45] <xgoonerx> downix : i made the EXT3 and SWAP partition on the secondary drive
[13:46] <ubuntu_> on 2nd drive...? there was winxp
[13:46] <x_zeuss> hello, has anyone here tried kubuntu with kde 4, the live cd?
[13:46] <xgoonerx> my primary drive contains WinXp ... i didnt installed kubuntu on the primary drive
[13:47] <ubuntu_> now i'm in linux with CD ;(
[13:47] <xgoonerx> i can't boot to ubuntu ..it stucks on Grub loading ...the hdd doesnt blink ..and it doesnt show any error notification
[13:47] <Downix> xgoonerx: Unless you put a boot loader onto the MBR of the first drive, you will not be able to boot from the second.
[13:47] <Downix> xgoonerx: Ok, see, that told me a lot.  Now, which drive is Grub thinking it's loading from?
[13:47] <xgoonerx> downix : please help me .. how do i solve this
[13:48] <Downix> xgoonerx: Still have your Ubuntu CD?
[13:48] <ubuntu_> where I can download free v of linux?
[13:48] <xgoonerx> yes... but i'm on xp right now
[13:48] <Downix> ubuntu_:  http://www.kubuntu.com http://www.fedoraproject.com http://www.debian.org http://www.linux.com
[13:49] <ubuntu_> Downix thank you wery much :)
[13:49] <Downix> xgoonerx: Well, XP can't do you any good in this situation, sad to say.
[13:49] <Downix> xgoonerx: Unless you install an ext2 driver
[13:49] <xgoonerx> downix ...wait a min .. i will use my live cd ..
[13:49] <ubuntu_> Downix ... but which v is better?
[13:49] <Downix> ubuntu_: Well, I prefer the first one, personally.
[13:49] <xgoonerx> downix : what do u mean ? u suggest me to make a new partition and install kubuntu on that ext2 drive ?
[13:50] <Downix> xgoonerx: No, I was just going to suggest looking at your grub setup menu for root partition to see if that was set properly.
[13:51] <xgoonerx> downix : i tried the sudo grub thingy ... would u hold on a sec.. i will reboot with my ubuntu live cd
[13:51] <xgoonerx> i did tried installing grub .. but that didnt fixed
[13:52] <xgoonerx> i cant even boot to win.. i had to fixmbr
[13:52] <Downix> well, fixmbr just erased grub
[13:52] <Downix> Maybe you should try grub-on-floppy?
[13:52] <Downix> I've used that a few times
[13:52] <xgoonerx> downix : do u think i have to make a partition on the primary drive (same drive with winxp) and reinstall kubuntu ?
[13:53] <Downix> Nah, I've done two drives dozens of times
[13:53] <Downix> it's just in getting the roots set up right
[13:53] <xgoonerx> ok downix ... brb ..i'll be right here on live cd
[13:53] <xgoonerx> c ya
[13:53] <Downix> I've been doing this for 13 years now, so it's nothing new to me.
[13:53] <Downix> ko
[13:54] <ubuntu_> Im installing ubuntu 2nd time
[13:54] <ubuntu_> I hope, it will work :)
[13:55] <Downix> ubuntu_: you do know that there are some slight differences between kubuntu and ubuntu right?
[13:55] <ubuntu_> here is someone from LV?
[13:56] <ubuntu_> Downix ... I know...
[13:56] <ubuntu_> maybe
[13:57] <Pici> !flavors
[13:57] <ubotu> !GTK and !Qt are !GUI toolkits (i.e. software libraries that draw buttons, textboxes, etc). !GNOME, !KDE, !Xfce and friends are "!desktop environments", which build on top of such libraries to provide a "consistent" desktop experience. !Kubuntu and !Xubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with KDE and Xfce (respectively) installed as default, instead of GNOME. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu
[14:01] <tekstacy> how do I extract a password-protected .rar?
[14:02] <tekstacy> And can I do it without the password?
[14:02] <tekstacy> I don't see a place in ark to enter one
[14:06] <ciacon> hi folks - I have problems getting my Prism Wlan working - who could give me a "helping hand"?
[14:07] <krokodil> ciacon : Could you tell us more ?
[14:07] <mau> question: amarok is building my collection (about 10k files). how long will it take?
[14:07] <krokodil> mau : The necessary time ;-)
[14:08] <mau> didn't expect that^^ the problem is that after ~3 hours im at 33%, but it's over wlan...
[14:08] <ciacon> krokodil: lemme login on this laptop to the irc
[14:09] <xgoonerx> downix you still there? sorry i wasnt able to go online with kopete... a bit confusing
[14:09] <Drk_Guy> Guys
[14:09] <Drk_Guy> I have a lil problem
[14:09] <xgoonerx> downix : i'm on live cd now
[14:09] <Drk_Guy> Kubuntu was installing just like normal
[14:10] <Drk_Guy> But it started installing some lang packs
[14:10] <Drk_Guy> Then i cancelled the langpacks installation and nothing happenned
[14:10] <kermit_> krokodil: what info can I supply you with, about this wlan??
[14:10] <Drk_Guy> Errrr.........
[14:10] <Drk_Guy> The install dialog just went out
[14:10] <Drk_Guy> And the screen flickered
[14:11] <Drk_Guy> Seems like it reacted
[14:11] <Drk_Guy> sorry
[14:11] <krokodil> kermit_ :what's the problem ? what append ?
[14:11] <xgoonerx> downix you there ?
[14:12] <kermit_> krokodil: I can't use the standard kubntu tool to setup my wlan
[14:13] <Downix> yup
[14:13] <Downix> soryr, got into work
[14:13] <kermit_> krokodil: lspci --> 00:0b.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation ISL3886 [Prism Javelin/Prism Xbow] (rev 01)
[14:13] <Downix> pesky thing
[14:13] <xgoonerx> hey man .. how can i fix my prob :(
[14:13] <sjck> anyone here can read russian signs and is willing to help me?
[14:13] <xgoonerx> no prob ... it's ok :) thx for helping
[14:13] <Downix> Well, do you see your linux-installed HD?
[14:13] <xgoonerx> yes
[14:13] <xgoonerx> but i cant open the fat32 files here on live cd though
[14:14] <Downix> Did you make a /boot drive, or use it as just one drive?
[14:14] <krokodil> kermit_ : Do u mean no acces to internet or no network at all ?
[14:14] <Downix> fat32?
[14:14] <xgoonerx> ow you mean the ext3 drive
[14:14] <Downix> xgoonerx: no, we need the ext2 Linux drives
[14:14] <Downix> ext2/3, right
[14:14] <xgoonerx> yes... i can see
[14:14] <kermit_> krokodil: can't even select a network
[14:14] <xgoonerx> i installed as it is ... just like the live cd told me
[14:15] <Downix> xgoonerx: open up the drive that had /boot on it
[14:15] <xgoonerx> Mount To =  /
[14:15] <Downix> xgoonerx: under grub's configuration file it should tell you which drive it's trying to mount as /
[14:16] <xgoonerx> downix : i cant open that drive !
[14:16] <xgoonerx> ha-storage-fix mount refused
[14:16] <xgoonerx> uid 999
[14:16] <xgoonerx> i cant open the other drives aswell (fat32, ntfs)
[14:17] <Downix> xgoonerx: says that they're already mounted most likely
[14:18] <krokodil> Kermit : It seems that you need to install XP drivers via ndiswrapper
[14:18] <xgoonerx> Downix : i'm a newbie on linux ..this is my first time installing ubuntu ... i'm so desperate to use ubuntu ... i dont want to use winxp anymore
[14:18] <krokodil> kermit : http://www.ralinktech.com.tw/data/2004_0505_IS_RT2460_WPA_Drv2.1.0.1.zip
[14:19] <krokodil> kermit you can see the topic (french !) http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=180408
[14:19] <xgoonerx> Downix : when i boot my pc .. it goes to winxp ..when i set my secondary drive as the first drive on bios ... it stucks on Grub
[14:21] <xgoonerx> netsplit ?
[14:22] <jussi01> !netsplit
[14:22] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[14:23] <Downix> man I love netsplits in the morning
[14:24] <Downix> xgoonerx: Sounds like it's mixed up on root, that's all
[14:24] <xgoonerx> downix : it's 21:24 PM here
[14:24] <Downix> 9:24 here
[14:25] <xgoonerx> GMT +7 ?
[14:25] <Downix> yup
[14:25] <xgoonerx> mixed up on the root? how can i fix this
[14:25] <xgoonerx> i'm in indonesia
[14:25] <Downix> I told you earlier
[14:25] <Downix> look at the grub boot menu
[14:26] <xgoonerx> should i use terminal ?
[14:26] <edgardo> ?
[14:26] <Drk_Guy> ...
[14:26] <Drk_Guy> This is strange
[14:26] <xgoonerx> i cant open any drive with dolphin
[14:26] <Drk_Guy> The installer is not reacting
[14:26] <Downix> that itself is odd
[14:26] <Drk_Guy> I mean, it is frozen after it has copied all files
[14:27] <Drk_Guy> It got locked-up writing grub
[14:27] <edgardo> alguno habla castellano
[14:27] <edgardo> ?
[14:27] <FrauHansen> btw. grub... is there another way to find out what kernels are installed exept looking at the "debian automatic kernel list" in the menu.lst?
[14:27] <Drk_Guy> I have myself managed to install it, but no menu.lst present
[14:28] <Drk_Guy> Is that normal?
[14:28] <FrauHansen> i think not
[14:28] <Drk_Guy> How can i solve it?
[14:28] <FrauHansen> did you get a freeze while installing?
[14:28] <Drk_Guy> Yep
[14:28] <FrauHansen> well you could try to reinstall
[14:28] <xgoonerx> Downix : would you be so kind to show me where can i see the grub root menu ?
[14:28] <xgoonerx> downix : newbie here :(
[14:29] <Drk_Guy> It was installing langpacks, then it frozen, i waited 5 mins and it unlocked
[14:29] <Drk_Guy> But then it locked up installing grub
[14:29] <user13> quit
[14:29] <Drk_Guy> Why?
[14:29] <user13> sorry...
[14:29] <Drk_Guy> Cant, the window is inactive
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> holla peeps
[14:29] <Drk_Guy> And i cant force it to close
[14:30] <user13> #quit
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> Drk_Guy, force what to close?
[14:30] <FrauHansen> Drk_Guy: sudo grub-install /dev/hda <- replace that path with the one that suits for you
[14:31] <Drk_Guy> I know
[14:31] <xgoonerx> downix : any tutorials ?
[14:31] <Drk_Guy> But the isntaller seems to be working
[14:31] <Drk_Guy> Bcoz now i see the menu.lst
[14:31] <FrauHansen> alright then
[14:32] <xgoonerx> how can i go to the grub root ?
[14:32] <xgoonerx> shall i use the terminal ?
[14:32] <Downix> xgoonerx: Familiar with VI editing?
[14:32] <FrauHansen> what do you mean by "the grub root"?
[14:32] <xgoonerx> downix : not at all, sorry
[14:32] <Downix> then no, terminal will do you no good
[14:33] <xgoonerx> frau : i can't boot to ubuntu ... it got stuck on grub
[14:33] <FrauHansen> any error message?
[14:33] <Drk_Guy> No
[14:33] <ubuntu_> now my winxp doesnt work :(
[14:33] <Drk_Guy> Installer is just locked up
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> Downix, could always boot to live cd and modify the file
[14:33] <Drk_Guy> But i think it is creatign files
[14:34] <krokodil> Does anyone try to make a system hot backup with dd, i've try it and it works but i 'd like to know if you have seen some problems
[14:34] <xgoonerx> it always boot to windows.... when i change the boot priority to my secondary drive ... it stucks on grub ...no error notification
[14:34] <Drk_Guy> Anyway, i can see it's not done because my accoutn's default files arent created
[14:34] <Downix> ActionParsnip: that's what I was trying to have him do.
[14:34] <ubuntu_> i cannot go in linux... that stops on grub loading
[14:34] <xgoonerx> ubuntu : i got the same problem
[14:35] <ubuntu_> how to get in linux?
[14:35] <xgoonerx> but i can still boot to windows
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, mount your drive once you have booted to the live cd and edit the file
[14:35] <ubuntu_> how to mount the hdd?
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> !mount | ubuntu_
[14:35] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[14:35] <steinerhippo> hi @all, does anybody know, how to make a icon to a mime type persistent? i tried it in kcontrol and with right click->properties, with both ways the icon (application/pdf mime typ) only is set till reboot
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, also if you google you'll see too
[14:36] <xgoonerx> action : i have just installed kubuntu on my secondary drive ... my pc wont boot to ubuntu ..any idea? it stops on grub
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, I pm'd you man
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> xgoonerx, boot to live cd and read the grub file (you could do us a pastebin too)
[14:37] <FrauHansen> grub goes by the menu.lst in the folder /boot/grub   in this file there is a list of operating systems and the path where their reside. this list has to be correct otherwise grub doesnt know what to boot
[14:38] <ubuntu_> ActionParsnip how to mount hdd?
[14:38] <ubuntu_> there is no action like that
[14:39] <xgoonerx> this is what i did
[14:39] <xgoonerx> ubuntu@ubuntu:/media$ sudo suroot@ubuntu:/media# nano/media/hdb3/boot/grub/menu.lstbash: nano/media/hdb3/boot/grub/menu.lst: No such file or directoryroot@ubuntu:/media#
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, sudo mkdir /mnt/foldera; sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt/foldera (is one example)
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, do some googling theres a million websites on it
[14:40] <FaiDillinGer> whats up
[14:40] <Kaffeejunky> hi people
[14:40] <squid0> hello
[14:40] <Kaffeejunky> what are u doing
[14:40] <Drk_Guy> ...
[14:41] <Drk_Guy> I know FrauHansen
[14:41] <Kaffeejunky> who is frau hansen
[14:41] <steinerhippo> hi @all, does anybody know, how to make a icon to a mime type persistent? i tried it in kcontrol and with right click->properties, with both ways the icon (application/pdf mime typ) only is set till reboot, can nobdy help me?
[14:41] <Drk_Guy> But the thing is, the account's main files arent installed
[14:41] <xgoonerx> Downix : i'm on the root/grub now ... what should i do ?
[14:41] <ubuntu_> Now I don't have windows and linux ;(
[14:41] <Kaffeejunky> hi steinerippo
[14:41] <Kaffeejunky> are u german
[14:41] <steinerhippo> yes
[14:41] <Kaffeejunky> i am too
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, if you edit the grub.conf you will but you need to get the drive mounted.
[14:42] <steinerhippo> but if you want german support, join kubuntu-de
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, once its mounted you can edit it so that you can boot
[14:42] <ubuntu_> okey im now search in google
[14:42] <Kaffeejunky> ok, this is my first time i chat in kubuntu
[14:43] <Downix> xgoonerx: Alright, can you use a pastebin for what the file says?
[14:43] <steinerhippo> Kaffejunky, i'm sometimes here, nice support, and i'm happy, that also i can help other people a bit
[14:43] <ubuntu_> only root can do that ActionParsnip
[14:43] <Kaffeejunky> ok
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, do what?
[14:44] <ubuntu_> mount: only root can do that :( ActionParsnip
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> sudo (?)
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> sudo mount ....
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, thats all that means. If you ever get that, whack sudo infront of it (if its a CLI command)
[14:44] <Kaffeejunky> hi daniela
[14:44] <ubuntu_> ActionParsnip ok that works :)
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, ok so you have the drive mounted?
[14:45] <ubuntu_> Usage: mount -V                 : print version
[14:45] <ubuntu_>        mount -h                 : print this help
[14:45] <ubuntu_>        mount                    : list mounted filesystems
[14:45] <ubuntu_>        mount -l                 : idem, including volume labels
[14:45] <ubuntu_> So far the informational part. Next the mounting.
[14:45] <ubuntu_> The command is `mount [-t fstype] something somewhere'.
[14:45] <ubuntu_> Details found in /etc/fstab may be omitted.
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> !paste | ubuntu_
[14:45] <ubotu> ubuntu_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:46] <ubuntu_>        mount -a [-t|-O] ...     : mount all stuff from /etc/fstab
[14:46] <ubuntu_>        mount device             : mount device at the known place
[14:46] <ubuntu_>        mount directory          : mount known device here
[14:46] <ubuntu_>        mount -t type dev dir    : ordinary mount command
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, STOP!!
[14:46] <ubuntu_> Note that one does not really mount a device, one mounts
[14:46] <ubuntu_> a filesystem (of the given type) found on the device.
[14:46] <ubuntu_> One can also mount an already visible directory tree elsewhere:
[14:46] <ubuntu_>        mount --bind olddir newdir
[14:46] <ubuntu_> or move a subtree:
[14:46] <ubuntu_>        mount --move olddir newdir
[14:46] <ubuntu_> A device can be given by name, say /dev/hda1 or /dev/cdrom,
[14:46] <ubuntu_> or by label, using  -L label  or by uuid, using  -U uuid .
[14:46] <ubuntu_> Other options: [-nfFrsvw] [-o options] [-p passwdfd].
[14:46] <ubuntu_> For many more details, say  man 8 mount .
[14:46] <ubuntu_> sorry about that.... whats next?
[14:46] <ubuntu_> ok
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> dont do that it scrolls like crazy
[14:47] <ubuntu_> ActionParsnip sorry man
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, fdisk -l (we need to know which partition your ubuntu is on)
[14:47] <Kaffeejunky> daniela want to chat with me
[14:47] <Kaffeejunky> ??
[14:48] <ubuntu_> on which hdd? I got 2...
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, fdisk will show both
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> !paste | ubuntu_
[14:48] <ubotu> ubuntu_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, put the output in there then paste the http link
[14:49] <Downix> this is fustrating, nothing will change my screen resolution
[14:49] <Downix> I migrate to a big monitor, text now 1" high!
[14:50] <ubuntu_> sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda  ActionParsnip
[14:50] <ubuntu_> ?
[14:50] <ben__> when the instructions for installing kde4 say "run /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde in the Xerphyr xterm", how do i do that?
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, no just fdisk -l
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> Downix, tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[14:50] <ubuntu_> okey
[14:50] <ben__> i have already installed kde4, and am running kde4 from the login manager
[14:51] <ubuntu_> ActionParsnip but nothing happens...
[14:51] <Downix> ActionParsnip: Yup.  It's not a big deal, I'll just sit further back
[14:51] <xptical> what is the best way to wipe a hard drive before I sell a PC?
[14:52] <Downix> xptical: Format it with some encrypted filesystem with no OS support.
[14:52] <xgoonerx> Downix : it's empty ?!!!
[14:52] <Downix> xgoonerx: Would explain a lot there
[14:52] <ubuntu_> ActionParsnip console shows only 1 hdd of two... :(
[14:52] <xptical> format and re-write with random a few times?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, not sure how you switch. I'd look on google
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_, run fdisk interactively
[14:53] <xgoonerx>  GNU nano 2.0.6       File: /media/hdb3/boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:54] <xgoonerx> thats it ..it's empty ..
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> can someone take over its time for me to head home now
[14:54] <xgoonerx> it has a New File option there... what should i do Downix
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> peace out brethrynss
[14:55] <steinerhippo> hi @all, does anybody know, how to make a icon to a mime type persistent? i tried it in kcontrol and with right click->properties, with both ways the icon (application/pdf mime typ) only is set till reboot, can nobody help me?
[14:55] <ubuntu_> ActionParsnip in which map I can see that hdd?
[14:56] <ubuntu_> ActionParsnip something works...
[14:58] <ubuntu_> who can help me mount hdd?
[14:59] <xgoonerx> my grub menu.lst is empty .... is that the reason why i cant boot to ubuntu ?
[14:59] <ubuntu_> my 2nd hdd didnt show anywhere? why?
[15:00] <ubuntu_> when u use live cd, Pc use hdd?
[15:00] <Wizard> ehlo
[15:00] <Wizard> are kde4 packages available for kubuntu/ppc ?
[15:01] <Hunkennalle> how do i know my root password?
[15:01] <Tm_T> Hunkennalle: there isn't one
[15:02] <Tm_T> !sudo | Hunkennalle
[15:02] <ubotu> Hunkennalle: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[15:02] <Downix> xgoonerx: Very likely.  Is the file editable as/is or do you need to sudo it?
[15:02] <steinerhippo> Hunkennalle: but if you are root and give him one, then he has one, but that's not the common way i think
[15:02] <Hunkennalle> but when im trying to instal: http://java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp?locale=en&host=java.com&intcmp=1383 it asks me for my root password
[15:02] <ubuntu_> how to mount hdd?
[15:02] <Tm_T> Hunkennalle: why do you install java from there?
[15:03] <Tm_T> !mount | ubuntu_
[15:03] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[15:03] <Tm_T> !java | Hunkennalle
[15:03] <ubotu> Hunkennalle: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[15:03] <Hunkennalle> i was on an webbsite and a box told me to uppdate and took me there
[15:03] <xgoonerx> downix : i think the file is editable ..since i'ts empty ... it got menu under it ..
[15:04] <xgoonerx> look
[15:04] <xgoonerx> ubuntu@ubuntu:/media$ ls /media/hdb3/ls: /media/hdb3/: No such file or directory
[15:04] <xgoonerx> thats the partition i installed ubuntu
[15:04] <xgoonerx> empty ?
[15:05] <ubuntu_> Tm_t mount: mount point /mnt/hd does not exist
[15:05] <Tm_T> ubuntu_: you need to create the mountpoint first
[15:05] <dhq> i have a camera on my laptop please tell me how to get it working on linux
[15:06] <ubuntu_> Tm_t but how?
[15:06] <Downix> xgoonerx: hdb3?  ok, something is not set up right
[15:06] <Tm_T> ubuntu_: "sudo mkdir /mnt/hd1" for example
[15:06] <ubuntu_> Tm_t thanks
[15:07] <Tm_T> !tab | ubuntu_
[15:07] <ubotu> ubuntu_: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[15:07] <xgoonerx> downix : hdb3 is the EXT3 partition
[15:07] <ubuntu_> Tm_T: okey, that really helps :)
[15:08] <ubuntu_> Tm_T: mount: special device /dev/hda* does not exist
[15:09] <ubuntu_> so many problems :(
[15:10] <Downix> xgoonerx: If I had more time I could walk you through this, but it's getting hectic at work.
[15:10] <ubuntu_> Downix: i can mount hdd from lice vd?
[15:10] <Downix> xgoonerx: since it is a fresh install, why not just re-install it, and make a boot-floppy rather than change the booting-drive?
[15:10] <ubuntu_> Downix: i can mount hdd from lice cd?
[15:10] <xgoonerx> downix : ok sir... no problem ...
[15:11] <ubuntu_> *live cd
[15:11] <xgoonerx> downix : i dont have a floppy drive on my pc :(
[15:11] <Downix> ubuntu_: Yes, I do it all of the time for maintenance purposes
[15:11] <articpenguin3800> will konversation be ported to kde4
[15:11] <Downix> xgoonerx: Well that's just silly.  The floppy remains the single most solid and proven booting method for emergencies.
[15:12] <zoli2k> Hi. Is the shortcut bug in KDE4 already fixed?
[15:12] <paolo_> hi, how can I open an application and set it "keep above others"  from command line?
[15:12] <Downix> xgoonerx: And this is from the guy that had to build his own floppy controller once when his motherboards southbridge fried
[15:12] <ubuntu_> Downix: why linux deleted all my data from winxp hdd?
[15:12] <articpenguin3800> i dont have a floppy ethier =(
[15:12] <xgoonerx> downix : yea... since the USB drive era... floppy seems to be neglected
[15:12] <Downix> ubuntu_: because you told it to
[15:12] <SSJ_GZ> zoli2k: There are at least two (probably three) separate bugs that cause shortcut breakage.
[15:13] <ubuntu_> Downix:  sh** all my 170 GB data lost :O
[15:13] <articpenguin3800> one thing i dont get is why is there a floppy ide controller on my motherboard if i dont have the slot for a floppy?
[15:13] <Downix> ubuntu_: you did proper backups as Winxp tells you to, right?
[15:13] <ubuntu_> Downix: maybe...
[15:14] <xgoonerx> very rare to find floppy disks nowadays (in indonesia)
[15:14] <Downix> articpenguin3800: motherboards can fit into a wide variety of cases
[15:14] <Downix> ok ok, getting sidetracked, need to work
[15:14] <articpenguin3800> even OEM computers?
[15:14] <Downix> have 120 sites to get going
[15:14] <ubuntu_> Downix: but why on startup linux grub loading sends error?
[15:14] <Downix> articpenguin3800: Yes, OEM's do not, as a general rule, make their own motherboards
[15:14] <articpenguin3800> ubuntu_: what error message
[15:14] <ubuntu_> error sector 17
[15:15] <articpenguin3800> ubuntu_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[15:15] <ubuntu_> articpenguin3800:  error sector 17
[15:15] <aleksanteri> how am i supposed to install libpoppler1{,-qt4} on gutsy ?
[15:15] <zoli2k> SSJ_GZ: Some of them already patched by the KDE devs. But I am not sure there are included in the recent packages.
[15:15] <articpenguin3800> ubuntu_: how old is your computer
[15:16] <SSJ_GZ> zoli2k: Ah, OK.
[15:16] <ubuntu_> articpenguin3800: alll new, but processor older than 2 years... 2.4 ghz
[15:17] <articpenguin3800> i got grub error 17 on my old pentium 933Mhz
[15:17] <articpenguin3800> that was because i had ubuntu on a partition later than the 1024 cylinder limit
[15:17] <ubuntu_> articpenguin3800:  i will now try...
[15:17] <articpenguin3800> dosent happen to me on my new rig though. Sempron 3800+
[15:18] <indystorm> so I am using kopete logged into aim and my buddy list does not show up- any idea why?
[15:21] <indystorm> and also how do I get a channel list on Konversation?
[15:21] <aantipop> indystorm: /list ?
[15:22] <indystorm> dude- awesome thanks--- any idea about the aim buddy list not refreshing?
[15:23] <aantipop> indystorm: on kopete-kde4 ?
[15:24] <xgoonerx> downix : i've succeded to enter into my hdb3 directory through research (google ofcourse).... what do u want me to do:  bin   cdrom  etc   initrd      lib         media  opt   root  srv  tmp  varboot  dev    home  initrd.img  lost+found  mnt    proc  sbin  sys  usr  vmlinuz
[15:24] <indystorm> yes
[15:24] <indystorm> Kubuntu
[15:24] <indystorm> I can logon but I get no buddy list- it's blank
[15:24] <aantipop> indystorm: sorry, i cant add any protocols
[15:24] <xgoonerx> root@ubuntu:/media# sudo suroot@ubuntu:/media# mkdir /media/hdb3root@ubuntu:/media# chmod 775 /media/hdb3/ -Rroot@ubuntu:/media# mount /dev/hdb3 /media/hdb3root@ubuntu:/media# ls /media/hdb3/bin   cdrom  etc   initrd      lib         media  opt   root  srv  tmp  varboot  dev    home  initrd.img  lost+found  mnt    proc  sbin  sys  usr  vmlinuzand then ?
[15:27] <sjck> Hi, how can I unrar a .rar with password?
[15:27] <trappist> it should ask you for a password if it's encrypted
[15:28] <sjck> With Ark too?
[15:28] <sjck> I mean, does Ark ask too?
[15:28] <trappist> I dunno, I don't use ark
[15:28] <sjck> What you use than?
[15:28] <trappist> the command line, for stuff like that
[15:29] <sjck> tar blabla?
[15:29] <trappist> right
[15:29] <sjck> Can you tell me whole command? :)
[15:30] <trappist> for what?
[15:30] <jussi01> sjck: man tar will tell you lots:)
[15:30]  * jussi01 thought ark asked tho
[15:30] <sjck> it doesnt ask
[15:31] <sjck> it says something pasword woudnt echoed
[15:31] <todobg> how to remove this panel in kde4?
[15:32] <jussi01> todobg: kde4 -> #kubuntu-kde4
[15:32] <todobg> ty
[15:32] <jussi01> :)
[15:33] <indystorm> so this linux thing is pretty cool.... runs good on my p3 1ghz with only 256mb ram!!! :)
[15:34] <Drk_Guy> Hi!
[15:34] <jussi01> hi
[15:34] <Drk_Guy> I have a question
[15:34] <todobg> here same nice to run linux in Q6600 8800ultra
[15:35] <Drk_Guy> How can i force apt to install stuff from my local repo
[15:35] <Drk_Guy> ?
[15:36] <Drk_Guy> How can i force apt to install stuff from my local repo?
[15:36] <Enok> I have only q6600 8800gtx, but can I still join the club?
[15:36] <sjck> Im simply not able to unrar my .rar with password. :(
[15:36] <Drk_Guy> sjck: Install unrar
[15:36] <llutz> sjck: unrar x file.rar
[15:36] <Drk_Guy> Its a propietary tool
[15:36] <Wizard> lol
[15:36] <Drk_Guy> But it works
[15:37] <senorpedro> sjck: open the file in ark and then click 'extract'
[15:37] <Drk_Guy> Guys....
[15:37] <Drk_Guy> Ark suckz
[15:37] <sjck> Ark doesnt work
[15:37] <Drk_Guy> How can i force apt to install stuff from my local repo?
[15:37] <llutz> ark cannot handle rar-withpassword
[15:37] <sjck> and unrar just returns me options
[15:37] <senorpedro> afaik can it handle passwords but not from the context menu
[15:38] <llutz> sjck: unrar x file.rar or unrar e file.rar
[15:38] <sjck> unrar p mypass name.rar?
[15:39] <aaroncampbell> how can I find what (if any) package has png2ico (a utility that I used to use all the time)
[15:39] <llutz> dpkg -S png2ico
[15:39] <Drk_Guy> How can i force apt to install stuff from my local repo?
[15:39] <jussi01> !find png2ico
[15:39] <jussi01> !repeat | Drk_Guy
[15:40]  * jussi01 waits...
[15:40] <ubotu> Package/file png2ico does not exist in gutsy
[15:40] <ubotu> Drk_Guy: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[15:41] <jussi01> Drk_Guy: permanently?
[15:41] <Drk_Guy> no
[15:41] <Drk_Guy> just one time
[15:42] <sjck> llutz unrar e works :)
[15:42] <llutz> sure
[15:42] <sjck> thanks
[15:45] <nibbe> it says that I need SMB and NFS Server installed to share files via the network. How do I get it?
[15:46] <jussi01> !nfs
[15:46] <jussi01> !samba
[15:46] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[15:46] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[15:54] <grul> !pdf
[15:54] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[15:54] <Downix> The older I get the less I like pdf's
[15:59] <falko> Wsup?
[15:59] <Drk_Guy> ¬¬
[16:00] <falko> lol, nice my first time at IRC ^^
[16:00] <Drk_Guy> Can i change the way files open
[16:00] <Drk_Guy> ?
[16:00] <ForgeAus> has anyone tried corio-dock?
[16:00] <Drk_Guy> I.E. Open them with double click
[16:00] <ForgeAus> erm sorry cairo-dock
[16:00] <SlimeyPe1e> Drk_Guy: yes
[16:00] <Downix> Grr, I need to get IE running now
[16:00] <Downix> ugh
[16:00] <falko> i have ubuntu feisty on ma PPC G3,... someone has a site with software?
[16:01] <ForgeAus> its a berli-os project looks like a nice dock applet
[16:01] <SlimeyPe1e> Drk_Guy: go to System Settings via the K Menu
[16:01] <SlimeyPe1e> Drk_Guy: click on Keyboard and Mouse, then on Mouse. The option is in there.
[16:01] <ForgeAus> falko a site? use adept
[16:01] <ForgeAus> (add/remove packages if you like)
[16:01] <falko> i mean: were can I find a "catalog" of PPC compatible software , and add/remove packages are great!
[16:02] <ForgeAus> ad/remove packages IS a ppc compatibel catalog, or at least should be...
[16:02] <sigma_1234> falko: packages.ubuntu.com
[16:02] <ForgeAus> there is of course more packages you can add...
[16:02] <ForgeAus> (or more repositories)
[16:03] <nuxil> is kbluetooth broken in gutsy ?
[16:03] <ForgeAus> ouch I'd hope not nuxil
[16:03] <sigma_1234> i doubt it
[16:03] <falko> kk thanx
[16:03] <nuxil> im having serious issues with it.. i can only send from my pc to my mobile., but not from my mobile to my pc
[16:04] <FaiDillinGer> kbluetooth doesnt work well with me too, same here nuxil
[16:04] <nuxil> it worked fine in feisty
[16:04] <nuxil> and the help in kbluetooth is a bit outdated
[16:05] <nuxil> as there is no such thing as kbluetoothd in the current package.
[16:05] <ForgeAus> nuxil could be a bug???
[16:05] <sigma_1234> i thought gutsy had a updated version
[16:06] <ForgeAus> sigma it does...
[16:06] <ForgeAus> !kbluetooth
[16:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kbluetooth - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:07] <nuxil> heh
[16:07] <ForgeAus> awww
[16:07] <sigma_1234> so then how can it be outdated
[16:07] <grul> !okular
[16:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about okular - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:07] <nuxil> !kbluetoothd
[16:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kbluetoothd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:07] <ForgeAus> kwireless
[16:07] <ForgeAus> !kwireless
[16:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kwireless - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:07] <nuxil> OMg
[16:07] <sigma_1234> !info kbluetooth
[16:07] <ubotu> Package kbluetooth does not exist in gutsy
[16:07] <ForgeAus> I dunno it'll be a note in some package
[16:07] <nuxil> lol
[16:07] <ForgeAus> !info kbluetoothd
[16:07] <ubotu> Package kbluetoothd does not exist in gutsy
[16:08] <ForgeAus> must be built into some other package maybe the networking subsystem or something
[16:08] <nuxil> the bot needs a update too ;p
[16:08] <llutz> package is kdebluetooth
[16:09] <ForgeAus> !info kdebluetooth
[16:09] <ubotu> kdebluetooth: KDE Bluetooth Framework. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0~beta8-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 842 kB, installed size 3800 kB
[16:09] <ForgeAus> !kdebluetooth
[16:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdebluetooth - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:09] <nuxil> !libbluetooth2
[16:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libbluetooth2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:09] <sigma_1234> it will probably be updated when hardy is released
[16:09] <ForgeAus> well you were right llutz found the package :)
[16:09] <stdin> !msgthebot > nuxil
[16:09] <llutz> ForgeAus: "dpkg -S kbluetooth" tells you :)
[16:10] <nuxil> does the pack miss kdebluetoothd ?
[16:11] <nuxil> the daemon
[16:12] <llutz> nuxil:there's  no such app in gutsy
[16:13] <nuxil> its kinda strange, when i send a file to the mobile. i punch in a pin "1111" same on the pc. then i accept the file on the pc. the should happen other way around, but after it asks to put in pin. it seems like it disconects. like ther is no server running on the pc.
[16:13] <DreadKnight> what's the alternative for "show desktop" in kde4? i've heard it's something like the mac dash board where the widget get on top...
[16:14] <dhq> how to install kde4
[16:14] <llutz> ask in  #kubuntu-kd4
[16:14] <llutz> ask in  #kubuntu-kde4
[16:14] <stdin> dhq: and read the topic
[16:14] <stdin> DreadKnight: I think it's Ctrl-F12
[16:15] <DreadKnight> stdin: it seems so, thanks :)
[16:16] <DreadKnight> damn, i really hate hotkeys that include the function keys :|
[16:17] <DreadKnight> eh
[16:19] <vignesh> Hey all
[16:19] <vignesh> Are kde4 pkgs available for feisty ?
[16:19] <stdin> vignesh: no
[16:20] <vignesh> ah..
[16:21] <nuxil> so how can i get my bluetooth working ?
[16:22] <stdin> !bluetooth
[16:22] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[16:22] <Drk_Guy> !mp3
[16:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[16:25] <Drk_Guy> ...
[16:25] <Drk_Guy> Guys
[16:25] <Drk_Guy> What do i have to do to enable Amarok to play files?
[16:26] <ostekake> gstreamer maby
[16:26] <Drk_Guy> Installed all
[16:26] <Drk_Guy> But still nothing
[16:26] <jussi01> kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:26] <Drk_Guy> I remember i installed some xine engine and it played
[16:26] <Drk_Guy> all multimedia files
[16:26] <jussi01> Drk_Guy: ^^
[16:26] <Drk_Guy> But i dont remember the name
[16:26] <nuxil> stdin, that doesnt work.
[16:27] <stdin> Drk_Guy: make sure you restart amarok after installing it
[16:28] <Drk_Guy> Still, no codecs available
[16:29] <Drk_Guy> I installed all the latest gstreamer versions
[16:29] <Drk_Guy> What could be failing?
[16:29] <ostekake> sudo apt-cache search mp3
[16:29] <jussi01> Drk_Guy: did you install kubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[16:29] <jussi01> ostekake: you dont need sudo with that
[16:30] <ostekake> i know. sry
[16:30] <Drk_Guy> No jussi
[16:30] <Drk_Guy> Gonna try that
[16:31] <jussi01> !tab > Drk_Guy
[16:34] <DreadKnight> does the wacom mouse works in hardy now? :D
[16:34] <stdin> DreadKnight: #ubuntu+1
[16:34] <DreadKnight> stdin: ok ^^
[16:35] <Drk_Guy> i knew that jussi01
[16:36] <jussi01> Drk_Guy: great! you didnt use it before, so I assumed :)
[16:37] <Drk_Guy> ...
[16:37] <Drk_Guy> How can i list running processes?
[16:37] <Drk_Guy> I forgot it
[16:37] <nosrednaekim> Drk_Guy: ps -ef
[16:37] <nosrednaekim> or top
[16:38] <nosrednaekim> after that happens,the kde3 applications won't even work in another WM (like qlwm)
[16:38] <nibbe> always when using ./config i keep getting: "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" Why?
[16:38] <nosrednaekim> whoops wrong channel
[16:38] <nosrednaekim> nibbe: grab the package "build-essential"
[16:39] <nuxil> hmm
[16:39] <Drk_Guy> How can i kill a process by its PID
[16:39] <Chousuke> kill <pid>
[16:40] <nuxil> anyone got a bluetooth fully working?
[16:40] <jussi01> nuxil: yep, me
[16:40] <jussi01> 2 of them infact
[16:40] <nuxil> jussi01, are you sure.. both ways. from mobilephone to pc and vs
[16:40] <llutz> nuxil: works with my nokia 6233 for DUN and file-operations
[16:40] <jussi01> nuxil: I use it for work every day....
[16:41] <nuxil> hmm. strange
[16:41] <maxym> !fr
[16:41] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[16:41] <nuxil> and you both are running gutsy?
[16:41] <hsystemx_> Drk_Guy, in terminal write:  ps -ef|grep YOUR_USER      , in the list of processes that it will show up, there is also the PID of each process.
[16:41] <nuxil> @ jussi01 & llutz
[16:42] <jussi01> nuxil: yes
[16:42] <llutz> yes
[16:42] <hsystemx_> So, after you find the proccess you want to kill, in terminal write:   kill  PID     , where PID is the number.
[16:42] <Drk_Guy> Thanks hsystemx_
[16:44] <Drk_Guy> jussi01: Got the cure
[16:45] <Drk_Guy> jussi01: What was needed was only libxine1-ffmpeg
[16:45] <Drk_Guy> That lib lets amarok comunicate with Gstreamer
[16:45] <Drk_Guy> :)
[16:45] <kadam> I'd like to start developing for KDE4/Qt4.  I have kdevelop, but when I start a new project the "kde4" section is empty.  I installed kde4-devel and the qt deveopment packages (I think), what do I need to do?
[16:52] <ostekake> im trying to find a http tunnel app
[16:52] <ostekake> are this good: corkscrew vtun httptunnel
[16:57] <WorgiL> i installed asp.net 2.0. When i want open some pages, it starting donwload. How can i solve ? can anyone help me ?
[16:58] <emilsedgh> asp.net 2.0?! gh
[16:58] <WorgiL> emilsedgh: yes asp.net 2.0
[16:58] <ForgeAus> hehe asp.net 2 for linux?
[16:58] <WorgiL> ForgeAus yes
[16:58] <nosrednaekim> lol
[16:58] <WorgiL> http://www.turkishzen.com/asp
[16:59] <ForgeAus> thats .net framework libraries isn't it?
[16:59] <ForgeAus> don't you need mono or something?
[16:59] <WorgiL> i installed mono
[17:00] <WorgiL> ForgeAus: can you look http://crm.pcshey.com/iletisim/iletim.asp
[17:00] <WorgiL> ForgeAus: can you look http://crm.pcshey.com/iletisim/iletisim.asp
[17:00] <WorgiL> do Gonder
[17:00] <WorgiL> starting download
[17:02] <WorgiL> ForgeAus: have you any idea ?
[17:04] <WorgiL> can anyone help me ?
[17:06] <SlimeyPe1e> WorgiL: well, you'll need some sort of web server software that can compile ASP, for instance an Apache module. I don't know if such a thing exists for Linux.
[17:07] <SlimeyPe1e> ah, Google says you need to enable mod_mono
[17:07] <Downix> ewww, mono
[17:07] <Downix> the standard that isn't standard
[17:09] <ForgeAus> yes asp.net 2 apps need to be served (usually on windows that means IIS)
[17:09] <ForgeAus> theres also an iis emulator for inetd isn't there? dunno how well featured it is tho
[17:11] <voonte> Which is the place to go for support on development tasks, such as questions about packaging, patching, etc?
[17:21] <runlevelten> Hi, is anyone aware that emacs-based assistive technologies are broken atm, and don't install?
[17:21] <virus> elo everyone
[17:21] <virus> one question
[17:22] <runlevelten> !ask
[17:22] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:22] <virus> can someone give a link to list of content dvd and cd of the newest kubuntu
[17:23] <virus> i'm just wandering if dvd contains some more packets to instal then cd version of instalation
[17:23] <virus> wondering sorry :)
[17:24] <stdin> virus: it does, it's bigger ;) I'll find the link with the file list for you
[17:24] <virus> i hope it is more "fat" :d
[17:25] <WorgiL> SlimeyPe1e must i set mod_mono open ?
[17:25] <WorgiL> SlimeyPe1e must i set mod_mono open about apache ?
[17:25] <stdin> virus: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/gutsy/release/kubuntu-7.10-dvd-i386.list  (look under /pool)
[17:25] <SlimeyPe1e> WorgiL: you need to enable it in your Apache configuration
[17:25] <virus> cheers!
[17:26] <WorgiL> okay SlimeyPe1e i will try
[17:26] <SlimeyPe1e> WorgiL: http://www.mono-project.com/Mod_mono
[17:26] <SlimeyPe1e> ^^ looks like it has instructions
[17:27] <Drk_Guy> Hi
[17:27] <Drk_Guy> I have a curiosity
[17:28] <Drk_Guy> why Nvidia driver detected my card as an ATi card, and asigned it a diferent PCI id
[17:28] <Drk_Guy> and the nvidia driver
[17:28] <Drk_Guy> lol
[17:28] <virus> the other thing is - what installing aplication instead of apt - should i use to install automatix packages?
[17:28] <nosrednaekim> !automatix
[17:28] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[17:29] <WorgiL> SlimeyPe1e how can i do apache mod_mono set ?
[17:30] <virus> so what you can tell me about installing imortant - to me - mp3 plugin or packages manager? what manager should i download and install?
[17:31] <odinsbane> okay I have a functionality question about kde 4
[17:31] <nosrednaekim> virus: run this command "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[17:31] <nosrednaekim> odinsbane: ok
[17:32] <odinsbane> I did something with my mouse and all of my programs because somewhat small and I was a able to click on one and it became the focus.
[17:32] <Dr_willis> odinsbane,  thats a feature. :)
[17:32] <virus> i tried it - in moment of instalation of java uprgrade its stopping suddenly and app aplication is 'eating' half of my 3 coma 2 GHz CPU
[17:32] <nosrednaekim> odinsbane: move your mouse to the upper left corner
[17:32] <Dr_willis> move to the top left, enables that expose-like featuyre
[17:33] <virus> apt sorry
[17:33] <odinsbane> doesn't do it.
[17:34] <virus> it's quite nervous to make 10 times the same operation without effect
[17:34] <Dr_willis> check the kde4 settings. you may have it disbled now.  Im not using kde4 any more. so cant help much more.
[17:34] <Dr_willis> also it may take a second or 2 to kick in.
[17:35] <mikelima> Hi all. I'm trying to compile KDE4 on kubuntu hardy...
[17:35] <lg188_> how do you send a text to a server ?
[17:35] <mikelima> But kdebase does not compile (Wrong strigi version, apparently...)
[17:36] <WorgiL> SlimeyPe1e i have apache_mod_mono already http://turkishzen.com/asp/ you can see
[17:36] <mikelima> Trying to remove the distribution strigi would remove all of KDE too...
[17:37] <odinsbane> Dr_willis do you still use kde?
[17:38] <Dr_willis> I just removed kde4 last night.
[17:38] <virus> i think that there might be some mistakes - dependes about localisation of that desktop user
[17:38] <Dr_willis> so on the desktop i got i use kde, laptop using gnome.
[17:40] <crookshanks> any opinions of kde4?
[17:40] <ostekake> i cant play DVDs. Error reading NAV packet.
[17:41] <SlimeyPe1e> crookshanks: it's promising but it's a long way from being finished.
[17:41] <Dr_willis> crookshanks,  leave it alone for now. :)
[17:41] <DaSkreech> crookshanks: I think it's one version number higher than KDE3
[17:41] <DaSkreech>  but that is just one man's opinion
[17:41] <SlimeyPe1e> Wait for 4.1 if you want something usable.
[17:41] <odinsbane> Dr Willis, What did you call the feature?
[17:41] <nexamac> :>
[17:41] <crookshanks> I figured as much
[17:41] <RonPaul_pwnz> i tried kde 4, but i'm back using 3.5 right now
[17:41] <virus> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras - have anyone some troubles with java packages in it?
[17:41] <nexamac> wheres the default place stuff end up when i copy something from a remote computer via dolphin?
[17:41] <Dr_willis> odinsbane,  i think it was called expose in the settings
[17:41] <nexamac> cause its not on my desktop >_>
[17:42] <nosrednaekim> crookshanks: i'm using it,its dfinately usable but wait until at least 4.01 for some of the big problems to get fixed
[17:42] <odinsbane> The change from rc2 is amazing...somethings are now functional and somethings arent
[17:42] <nosrednaekim> odinsbane: well, its a copy of the Mac Expose
[17:42] <crookshanks> nosrednaekim: I'll probably wait until hardy comes out to use it
[17:44] <virus> as i see java is not problematic for most of U - lucky U :(
[17:47] <DaSkreech> crookshanks: If you aren't really interested in KDE4 >really< interested you might want to sit 4.0 series out
[17:48] <odinsbane> Plasma is not a 'happy' program
[17:48] <DaSkreech> it's between states :)
[17:49] <virus> honestly - there's less of soft than in ubuntu...
[17:49] <virus> i'm wondering why?
[17:49] <odinsbane> as a matter of fact, it just vanished again.  I'm firin' gnome back up.
[17:51] <DaSkreech> virus: There is is less soft?
[17:52] <virus> it's obvious isnt' it?
[17:52] <virus> when i've installed it from cd, i was scared
[17:52]  * Drk_Guy is so mad
[17:52] <Drk_Guy> why Compiz is not working!!!?
[17:52] <Wizard> ok.. where can i get support/ask questions on kubuntu hardy on powerpc :)
[17:52] <virus> next few days show me that i wasn't wrong :(
[17:52] <ignignokt> hey i'm using amarok 1.4.8 and each time i start it my collection's empty and i need to rescan.. what gives
[17:53] <august_> !root
[17:53] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[17:53] <ignignokt> wizard: i believe #kubuntu+1
[17:53] <nosrednaekim> ignignokt: do you have alot of playlists?
[17:53] <ignignokt> none
[17:53] <Wizard> and what about ppc ?
[17:53] <nosrednaekim> ignignokt: Wizard: #ubuntu+1
[17:53] <ignignokt> actually maybe 1
[17:54] <ignignokt> ... i've been using amarok on gnome for a while and it's been fine, then i switched to kde and it's doing this
[17:54] <emilsedgh> !adeptfix > farzad
[17:55] <nosrednaekim> ignignokt: then do this "rm -rf .kde/share/apps/amarok"
[17:55] <martin_> connect #kubuntu.fr
[17:55] <crookshanks> DaSkreech: I would say that I'm 'fairly' interested in kde4
[17:56] <crookshanks> DaSkreech: but I probably will wait a few months before I use it
[17:56] <martin_> !fr
[17:56] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:57] <DaSkreech> crookshanks: Might be worth to have it as an alternate login option then
[17:57] <ignignokt> it's rebuilding collection...
[17:57] <ignignokt> then i'll quit/reopen see if its still there
[17:58] <CrocoJet> KDE 4 is out .. how to setup network ? I cant find option to enter IP, masc, DNS, etc
[17:58] <CrocoJet> I made download remaster kubuntu
[17:58] <CrocoJet> is correct ?
[17:59] <nosrednaekim> CrocoJet: that CD is really only for testing KDE4, not for doing anything "useful" however,if you have ethernet a quick "sudo dhclient eth0" should probably work.
[17:59] <CrocoJet> oh ok .. so KDE 4 is ready .. yet
[17:59] <CrocoJet> to use, right ?
[18:00] <DaSkreech> CrocoJet: For some definition of ready
[18:00] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[18:00] <nosrednaekim> CrocoJet: yes, it is to a certain extent, but I am still using a good deal of kde3 apps
[18:00] <odinsbane> CrocoJet,it is not solid.
[18:00] <nosrednaekim> hey MilhousePunkRock
[18:00] <CrocoJet> ok
[18:00] <MilhousePunkRock> I am finally ready to upgrade to Gutsy...
[18:01] <CrocoJet> gutsy is not stable yet .. right ?
[18:01] <CrocoJet> (kubuntu)
[18:01] <DaSkreech> CrocoJet: Hardy is not stable
[18:01] <nosrednaekim> yeah... gusty id stable
[18:01] <ignignokt> yes it is
[18:01] <ignignokt> hardy isn't
[18:01] <odinsbane> Gnome + Gutsy = rocksolid
[18:01]  * DaSkreech whispers Though I agree gutsy isn't stable yet either
[18:01] <CrocoJet> ok
[18:01] <crookshanks> hehe
[18:01] <MilhousePunkRock> Only, I don't have the "Recommended updates" and "Pre-released updates" setting in the adept manager
[18:01] <DaSkreech> On the road again!
[18:02] <nosrednaekim> MilhousePunkRock: you may have to add the backports repository then
[18:02] <MilhousePunkRock> If I choose "manage repositories" I only get the sources list, no settings whatsoever
[18:02] <ignignokt> nosrednaekim: it appears that it's holding onto my collection now, thanks... i'll return if it goes wrong again
[18:03] <nosrednaekim> ignignokt: ok. great
[18:03] <danube> anyone knows about exchange compatibility with kontact?
[18:03] <MilhousePunkRock> nosrednaekim: feisty-backports are there... I was hoping to go the easy way, not changing every "feisty" in the sources.list to "gutsy"
[18:04] <nosrednaekim> MilhousePunkRock: oh, I see... well I think there is an upgrade app to do all that for you..
[18:04] <nosrednaekim> !upgrade
[18:04] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[18:05] <RonPaul_pwnz> is there an app for adept that will automatically alert me of updates to my software from the system tray?
[18:05] <MilhousePunkRock> nosrednaekim: Thanks, but what is there is the same as on the Gutsy release page, my adept does not have those settings, like I said before
[18:06] <MilhousePunkRock> RonPaul_pwnz: Yes... adept-notifier I think
[18:06] <RonPaul_pwnz> k thanks
[18:07] <RonPaul_pwnz> ah, now i remember, i disabled the notifier because it was telling me to update something that i didn't want to update :)
[18:08] <MilhousePunkRock> RonPaul_pwnz: Just "pin" the version you want to keep...
[18:08] <MilhousePunkRock> !pinning
[18:08] <ubotu> pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[18:08] <RonPaul_pwnz> ah, nice
[18:08] <MilhousePunkRock> RonPaul_pwnz: I have done that because I had to downgrade something to work properly on my particular system
[18:08] <palash> hi all
[18:09] <RonPaul_pwnz> yeah i custom compiled amarok because it wouldn't work with my ipod with the defualt install
[18:09] <RonPaul_pwnz> and it kept wanting me to get the latest version of amarok
[18:10] <palash> how latest? amarok 2.0?!
[18:10] <RonPaul_pwnz> is 2.0 out?
[18:10] <palash> it's not.
[18:11] <RonPaul_pwnz> i hope 2.0 likes me better
[18:11] <RonPaul_pwnz> amarok is pretty good at locking up my entire system from time to time
[18:14] <Drk_Guy> Hi
[18:14] <indystorm> hey is there an easy way to get programs installed in kubuntu?
[18:14] <Drk_Guy> Can anyone help me?
[18:14] <Drk_Guy> Emerald doesnt have any themes
[18:15] <Drk_Guy> But it comes with like 15 thmes by default
[18:15] <stdin> !adept | indystorm
[18:15] <ubotu> indystorm: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[18:16] <stdin> !compiz | Drk_Guy, see this page for information on getting emerald themes
[18:16] <ubotu> Drk_Guy, see this page for information on getting emerald themes: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[18:17] <Drk_Guy> stdin: Already done
[18:17] <Drk_Guy> stdin: But no themes
[18:17] <Drk_Guy> stdin: Also, i cant fetch non gpl'd themes
[18:17] <stdin> so you've done "svn ls https://svn.generation.no/emerald-themes" ?
[18:18] <Drk_Guy> Yep
[18:18] <Drk_Guy> ill pastebin the error
[18:18] <Dr_willis> Drk_Guy,  theres some command i thought ya ran to let emerald download themes automaticially
[18:18] <Dr_willis> i recall the info on the !compiz page
[18:18] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[18:18] <lovre> hi al
[18:19] <lovre> i just tried kde4 live cd (kubuntu).....
[18:19] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[18:19] <teeahr1> hey all, i tried to install KDE4 yesterday, and the install seemed to take, but now I can't log in to either KDE4 or KDE3.  i posted to the forums > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=667034 but no one seems to know what's going on.  can anyone help me out with this?
[18:20] <Drk_Guy> stdin: http://www.pastebin.ca/854958
[18:20] <lovre> first impression: im dissapointed. :(
[18:20] <stdin> teeahr1: did you select kdm-kde4 as the default display manager?
[18:20] <teeahr1> stdin: yep
[18:21] <stdin> teeahr1: that's the problem then, you need to set it back to kdm (the normal one)
[18:21] <stdin> Drk_Guy: emerald hasn't been maintained since around July 2007, nothing can be done
[18:21] <dhq> does any one know how i can find my intergrated laptop camera
[18:21] <teeahr1> stdin: okay, but how do i do that?  i can't get to another terminal, ctrl-alt-F(1-6) just puts my monitor to sleep.
[18:22] <Drk_Guy> stdin: But it is upposed to come with like 20 themes
[18:22] <stdin> teeahr1: login to the console and do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"
[18:22] <Drk_Guy> stdin: What happenned then?
[18:22] <stdin> Drk_Guy: it did when beryl did
[18:22] <stdin> *died
[18:22] <stdin> teeahr1: start in recovery mode ?
[18:23] <teeahr1> stdin: i'll try that, and get back to you.  thx.
[18:23] <stdin> teeahr1: are you on a live cd now?
[18:23] <dhq> [   14.852000] uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device Laptop Integrated Webcam (05a9:2640)
[18:23] <dhq> [   14.852000] uvcvideo: Failed to query (135) UVC control 1 (unit 0) : -32 (exp. 26).
[18:23] <dhq> [   14.908000] usbcore: registered new interface driver uvcvideo
[18:23] <stdin> !paste | dhq
[18:23] <teeahr1> no, i'm on my laptop.
[18:23] <ubotu> dhq: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[18:24] <stdin> teeahr1: ok, because you can do it from a live cd too
[18:24] <dhq> stdin: 3lines of code os a flood
[18:24] <dhq> err is
[18:24] <teeahr1> okay, booting to live cd now.
[18:24] <dhq> stdin: please help me set up my cam
[18:24] <stdin> !webcam
[18:24] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[18:24] <Drk_Guy> stdin: there's somthing funny
[18:25] <Drk_Guy> stdin: When i try to install "emerald-themes", it says another package refers to it
[18:25] <Drk_Guy> Which package could be?
[18:25] <stdin> Drk_Guy: that's because the package doesn't exist any more
[18:26] <Drk_Guy> stdin: But which is the package it refers to?
[18:26] <stdin> Drk_Guy: emerald
[18:26] <Drk_Guy> emerald doesn't install the themes...
[18:26] <Drk_Guy> It cannot be that one
[18:26] <stdin> emerald Recommends: emerald-themes
[18:27] <stdin> therefore it refers to the package
[18:27] <[ex]p|0s10n> кто тут из наших?
[18:27] <stdin> !ru
[18:27] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[18:27] <[ex]p|0s10n> ры ры кста:-)
[18:27] <voonte> So I'm trying to get the hang of building and patching deb packages and I made a quick fix to kdm-kde4. Do I really need to rebuild the whole kdebase-workspace package when the only change I made was to kdm?
[18:28] <stdin> voonte: 1) yes, 2) kdm-kde4 was already fixed (by yours truly) :P
[18:28] <teeahr1> stdin: joy! i ran dpkg-reconfigure kdm in recovery and i'm back in business! thx!
[18:28] <stdin> teeahr1: no problem
[18:28] <stdin> voonte: what does your patch do exactly?
[18:29] <voonte> stdin: Awesome :) I did this for practice, though
[18:29] <Offoffoff> KDE is evil!
[18:29] <voonte> Nothing worth submitting, just learning (the overly complex) deb system :P
[18:29] <parkin> i can play mp3 in amarok but not in juk, anyone know what libraries i need to play mp3 in juk?
[18:29] <parkin> or something else?
[18:29] <stdin> voonte: the kde4 packages aren't the best to start learning, they are insanely complicated
[18:30] <voonte> stdin: the kde4 packages (using the cmake scripts) made it really easy to work on single packages though
[18:31] <xgoonerx> i can't insert password after sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.original
[18:32] <xgoonerx> i want to change my repository server
[18:32] <jussi01> xgoonerx: it wont show it but it is still going in
[18:32] <xgoonerx> ic
[18:32] <rothchild> Hi all, i've broken something uninstalling kde4 http://pastebin.com/m59b85f5f
[18:32] <jussi01> !u > xgoonerx
[18:32] <rothchild> there's some sort of conflict between kdebase-bin and kdebase-bin-kde4
[18:33] <teeahr1_> i'm  back. i'm logged in to KDE successfully, but i still don't have any other terminals (ctrl-alt-F1-6)
[18:33] <jussi01> rothchild: try sudo apt-get install -f
[18:33] <stdin> !packaging | have a look at this voonte, you can also get help in #kubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-motu
[18:33] <ubotu> have a look at this voonte, you can also get help in #kubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-motu: The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports
[18:33] <vincent__> Heya, can anyone tell me what's going on with the pakage installer under kubuntu? It keeps breaking. Third install today..
[18:33] <rothchild> jussi01: tried it no joy
[18:33] <stdin> teeahr1_: would you happen to have an ATI graphics card?
[18:33] <teeahr1_> stdin: nope, intel chip
[18:34] <xgoonerx> jussi : no... it says sorry, try again
[18:34] <xgoonerx> i can't insert the password
[18:34] <stdin> teeahr1_: strange then, it's a common problem with ATI, not so with intel. you could try disabling the boot splash and see if that helps
[18:34] <rothchild> http://pastebin.com/m76c31ac6
[18:34] <teeahr1_> i did notice in the kdm.log these two lines:
[18:35] <stdin> rothchild: upgrade before installing
[18:35] <xgoonerx> jussi : i've succeeded installing ubuntu on my hdd btw.. after reformating, deleting partition and ofcourse reinstalling winxp ..lol
[18:35] <vincent__> "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. "
[18:35] <stdin> rothchild: oh, you're removing...
[18:35] <teeahr1_> (EE) intel(0): No valid modes.
[18:35] <vincent__> Adept keeps doing that..
[18:35] <stdin> rothchild: use aptitude or just install "kdebase-bin-kde3" first
[18:35] <jussi01> vincent__: have you updated?
[18:35] <teeahr1_> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[18:36] <teeahr1_> i already have boot splash disabled.
[18:36] <teeahr1_> perhaps a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg may be in order.
[18:36] <vincent__> I haven't done anything yet. Clean install. That's why it's breaking?
[18:37] <stdin> teeahr1_: possibly, but backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf first ;)
[18:37] <voonte> stdin: Thanks. That's the information I'm reading now, but I couldn't find anything regarding the KDE4 packages (which primarily is what I plan to send patches for).
[18:38] <stdin> voonte: that will give you the basics you need, we can help in #kubuntu-devel with the rest
[18:39] <voonte> stdin: alright, thanks
[18:40] <luca_b> stdin: would #kde-devel a right place to ask aslo to try and track down problems in packages?
[18:40] <teeahr1_> tried to reconfigure xserver-xorg, no joy
[18:41] <stdin> luca_b: #kde-devel don't have anything to do with packaging, if it's a bug in the code then yes otherwise probably not
[18:42] <luca_b> stdin: whoops; I meant #kubuntu-devel
[18:43] <kristina> hi, what program could I use to redirect the internet traffic of a program over a proxy?
[18:45] <stdin> luca_b: packaging issues should always go on launchpad against the package, then if you want you can poke us in -devel
[18:45] <jussi01> kristina: which program, your browser?
[18:46] <rothchild> stdin thanks aptitude rocks!
[18:46] <kristina> jussi01: no, it's a tv streaming app
[18:46] <jussi01> ahh
[18:48] <rothchild> kristina: do you mean something like this? http://www.fire-drill.com/
[18:49] <kristina> rothchild: yeah something like that I suppose. is it legal by the way?
[18:50] <navetz> what software can I use to mount ISO's?
[18:50] <jussi01> kristina: do you mind me asking which app?? ie. sopcast?
[18:50] <stdin> !iso | navetz
[18:50] <ubotu> navetz: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[18:50] <kristina> jussi01: zattoo
[18:50] <rothchild> kristina: I don't know, it's almost certainly a policy contravention for most IT depts!
[18:51] <kristina> ok, I'll check the conditions of zattoo and look into firedrill
[18:51] <stdin> navetz: see also http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/MountFile?content=61955 for a GUI wrapper around that command
[18:52] <thomas__> bonjour
[18:52] <thomas__> quelq'un parle francais?
[18:52] <jussi01> !fr
[18:52] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[18:52] <thomas__> merci
[18:53] <jussi01> kristina: apt-cache search proxy returns a huge list, maybe you want to have a look through
[18:53] <rothchild> kristina: ianal but I can't imagine why zattoo would care, if your trying to get it in to china or cuba or some such then the authorities might be a bit more concerned
[18:54] <alesan> hey where can I read how to write n the sources.list file. I have this site: http://giss.tv/~vale/ I would like to setup as repository for amd64
[18:54] <rothchild> alesan sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:55] <marx2k> Hm.. how do I tell KDE bug tracker what compiler vcersion I have?
[18:55] <stdin> marx2k: ask in #kde
[18:56] <foibles> has anyone here tried suse?
[18:56] <foibles> what did you think of it?
[18:56] <alesan> rothchild: I prefere vi, that is not the point, what should I write? I only know the repository is located there
[18:56] <stdin> !ot | foibles
[18:56] <ubotu> foibles: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[18:56] <danube> foibles: what's your concern?
[18:56] <foibles> danube: ive just never tried it before
[18:57] <foibles> ive tried all other major distros, and a ton of obscure ones
[18:57] <parkin> i can play mp3 in amarok, kaffeine, vlc but not in JuK. neither with aRts, Gstreamer or aKode. Anyone got any idea how to fix this in JuK ?
[18:57] <danube> foibles: oh. ;) well, it's worth a try. but imho kubuntu is better.
[18:57] <foibles> danube: im downloading a dvd iso
[18:57] <danube> foibles: do you have any special requests?
[18:58] <foibles> danube: how do you mean
[18:58] <danube> foibles: any expectations
[18:58] <stdin> foibles, danube: this isn't the place to discuss suse
[18:58] <rothchild> alesan: I don't think that is set up as a repository that apt-get will understand
[18:58] <foibles> danube: we are angering stdin
[18:58] <danube> i see. let's go private
[18:59] <foibles> danube: go to #kubuntu-offtopic
[19:00] <rothchild> alesan they are recogniseable because they tend to look like this: deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted
[19:00] <mewshi> hi
[19:00] <mewshi> when will KDE 4 be ready?
[19:01] <jussi01> !kde4 > mewshi
[19:01] <alesan> !kde4
[19:02] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[19:02] <SuQa> Klarade jag av att komma in ? :O
[19:02] <SuQa> Wohoo!
[19:02] <stdin> !se
[19:02] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[19:02] <kye> What would be a good chan to join with a n64 emulator?
[19:03] <kye> What would be a good chan to join for help with a n64 emulator?
[19:03] <marx2k> damn konqueror crashing like its drunk
[19:04] <SuQa> Anyone as can help me with drivers to my VIA unichrome pro? i've googl'd all day long! _(
[19:04] <marx2k> whats a VIA unichrome pro?
[19:04] <SuQa> Its a Graphic card ( im froom sweden, bad english)
[19:05] <marx2k> oh...
[19:05] <SuQa> marx2k, why not use firefox, my qonquertor crashes all time to.
[19:05] <marx2k> SuQa: I use it as a file browser. I use FF as a web browser
[19:05] <watswrong> hello guys. i have a problem during installation from the live cd. how can i create an extended partition so i can create more logical partitions?
[19:05] <SuQa> Ah, I see!
[19:06] <watswrong> (the documentation site is not loading i don't know why)
[19:06] <marx2k> watswrong: are you using gparted?
[19:07] <SuQa> Someone as can help me installing my graphic card? (can't spell, froom swe)
[19:07] <marx2k> !swe
[19:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:07] <SuQa> swe as in sweden.
[19:07] <jussi01> !se
[19:07] <watswrong> i have no idea i ran the livecd and the "install" icon from the desktop"\
[19:07] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[19:07] <SuQa> Jo, förökte komma in där, men hur?
[19:08] <marx2k> watswrong: can you open a terminal and type 'gparted' and see if anything gets found?
[19:08] <jussi01> !en | SuQa
[19:08] <ubotu> SuQa: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[19:08] <marx2k> meaning see if the program exists
[19:08] <watswrong> ok just a sec
[19:08] <SuQa> I'll try!
[19:09] <watswrong> The program 'gparted' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[19:09] <watswrong> sudo apt-get install gparted
[19:09] <marx2k> I would suggest doing that and use gparted to make those partitions
[19:09] <marx2k> its a graphical partitioning system that is pretty self explanatory
[19:10] <SuQa> Okey! I'll try that :)
[19:10] <dhq> cfdisk is better
[19:10] <watswrong> but.. i am running Kubuntu from the live cd. will it install it?
[19:10] <marx2k> yeah it will install it
[19:10] <watswrong> ok thnx i'll try it
[19:10] <dhq> watswrong: well qtparted is preinstalled on the live cd
[19:10] <SuQa> marx2k, did u mean me to install or watswrong?
[19:10] <marx2k> SuQa: I meant watswrong :)
[19:11] <SuQa> Bcs i've not it installd either.
[19:11] <SuQa> Should i install ?
[19:11] <marx2k> watswrong: yeah if you can use qtparted, use that. I only suggest gparted since thats all I have experience with. I think they work the same so if you have qtparted already there, use that
[19:12] <watswrong> ok.. but.. is there someone who has used the tool while running the installation guide of the live cd?
[19:12] <watswrong> maybe i don't have to install it
[19:12] <watswrong> there must be a way
[19:12] <watswrong> (the partitioning tool)
[19:12] <dhq> watswrong: i have done it
[19:12] <watswrong> could u create an extended partiotion??
[19:13] <watswrong> cause it lets you choose between "primary" and "logical"
[19:13] <dhq> watswrong: you have 3 options on the live cd cfdisk,fdisk,qtparted
[19:13] <dhq> well yes
[19:13] <watswrong> ok i'll have a look thnx
[19:15] <watswrong> dhq i don't have 3 options..
[19:15] <watswrong> the only options are "guided  resize bla bla bla"
[19:15] <watswrong> "guided- use entire disk"
[19:15] <watswrong> "guided - use the larges continuous free space"
[19:16] <watswrong> and "manual"
[19:16] <watswrong> i select "manual"
[19:16] <watswrong> and on the next step i just choose partitions to delete , create or edit
[19:17] <watswrong> ok anyway i will use fdisk is that ok?
[19:17] <marx2k> yeah see... what I do is before I even go into install, I use gparted (or qtparted in your case) to create the needed partitions... THEN I go into install
[19:17] <watswrong> oh i c
[19:18] <watswrong> ok yes that sounds a better idea thnx
[19:18] <marx2k> the default install program kind of sucks at partitions if you dont already have everything set up the way you want it, partitionwise
[19:18] <watswrong> do you know why i can't see the documentation on the ubuntu site?
[19:19] <watswrong> is there a problem with the server or is it my prob ( although i can see all other sites)
[19:19] <marx2k> whats the URL youre pointing at?
[19:19] <watswrong> https://help.ubuntu.com
[19:20] <marx2k> Are you using konqueror to view that?
[19:20] <watswrong> yes
[19:20] <marx2k> Did you accept the cookie? (A secondary window pops up asking if you want to do so)
[19:21] <watswrong> i didn't have a secondary window poping up
[19:21] <foibles> by the way
[19:21] <foibles> has anyone tried kde4?
[19:21] <foibles> is it alright?
[19:22] <marx2k> foibles: You can read my take on it @ http://commodore128.blogspot.com
[19:22] <marx2k> watswrong: weird.. mine popped up a new window asking me if I wanted to accept cookies on it
[19:22] <watswrong> hmmm ok i'll check my setings
[19:22] <marx2k> watswrong: and when I accepted.. THEN it went... you might want to go into config and do an 'accept all cookies' type dealie if possible
[19:23] <watswrong> yep
[19:24] <watswrong> ... it has already "accept all cookies" by default
[19:24] <watswrong> i'll try another "https" site
[19:25] <watswrong> i can view them
[19:25] <watswrong> ...that's strange...
[19:26] <robinsw> Hi all
[19:26] <marx2k> that is weird\
[19:26] <watswrong> except konqeror is there another web browser on the live cd?
[19:27] <robinsw> With KDE 3.5.x, I used to have to change the options for a USB hard disc formatted in NTFS that was called 'Mount as user' to unchecked. In KDE 4.0, I'm not given that option so I can't mount my NTFS formatted external hard discs.
[19:27] <SuQa> Under systemconfig->monitor, is vesa normal there?
[19:27] <robinsw> Any ideas?
[19:28] <mark__> how do i access programs that i have installd but aren't showing in the menu?
[19:29] <mewshi> So, how is KDE 4?
[19:29] <sigma_> mark__: have you considered using the "run" dialog?
[19:29] <sigma_> mewshi: #kubuntu-kde4
[19:29] <mark__> i can't remember the programs names
[19:29] <mnovak> mewshi: i am not entirely impressed
[19:30] <mark__> i would like to add them to the menu though
[19:30] <robinsw> KDE4 is a nightmare.
[19:30] <mnovak> i dont like the panel
[19:31] <sigma_> guys its only a technology preview
[19:32] <mnovak> if you are new to linux i don't recommend kde4
[19:32] <kiddy> hi, wird hier auch deutsch gesprochen
[19:32] <kiddy> ?
[19:32] <jussi01> !de
[19:32] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[19:32] <sigma_> !de
[19:32] <kiddy> thx
[19:32] <emilsedgh> everyone says this is not for end users, then users pick it up, dont like it and say it was nightmare!
[19:32] <sigma_> !info amarok
[19:33] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.7-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 9618 kB, installed size 31020 kB
[19:33] <mnovak> emilsedgh, i think kubuntu is very simple for the end user to pick up on
[19:33] <robinsw> With KDE 3.5.x, I used to have to change the options for a USB hard disc formatted in NTFS that was called 'Mount as user' to unchecked. In KDE 4.0, I'm not given that option so I can't mount my NTFS formatted external hard discs.
[19:33] <emilsedgh> mnovak: im talking bout KDE 4.0
[19:33] <jussi01> robinsw: kde4 support -> #kubuntu-kde4
[19:34] <mnovak> oh yes
[19:34] <mnovak> i agree
[19:34] <noaXess> is there a kubuntu package to editing pdf files?
[19:34] <noaXess> !pdf
[19:34] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[19:34] <jussi01> !info pdfedit
[19:34] <ubotu> pdfedit: Editor for manipulating PDF documents. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-1 (gutsy), package size 2776 kB, installed size 7532 kB
[19:34] <noaXess> jussi01: okay.. i see.
[19:34] <jussi01> :)
[19:37] <ScorpKing> sudo apt-get install problems
[19:37]  * ScorpKing waits..
[19:39] <sigma_> ScorpKing: what are you waiting for?
[19:40] <ScorpKing> sigma_: someone with problems ;)
[19:40] <danube> short Q/A: does kubuntu support 3d effects?
[19:41] <jussi01> !compiz | danube
[19:41] <ubotu> danube: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[19:41] <Thingus> Someone want to remind me how to delete all of the empty directories within a specific directory?
[19:41] <danube> gracias muchachos!
[19:41] <jussi01> Thingus: all the drectories, or only empty ones?
[19:41] <sigma_> danube: you could also install kde4 for 3d effects
[19:42] <Thingus> jussi01: Only empty ones.
[19:42] <jussi01> Thingus: not sure then, sorry
[19:42] <Thingus> I'm dealing with my music collection, and I want to weed out folders that Amarok emptied.
[19:42] <ScorpKing> Thingus: try in #linux
[19:42] <danube> sigma_: thanks, good to know! but i've stopped adapting packages manually... ;)
[19:42] <phxx> hi@all
[19:43] <ScorpKing> hi phxx. welcome
[19:43] <sigma_> danube: just use the livecd - makes things alot simpler
[19:43] <mnovak> ScorpKing: what kind of problems?
[19:43] <danube> sigma_: huh? isn't that coming with 3.5?
[19:43] <phxx> I've got a linux specific question, maybe someone could help me. That would be great:
[19:44] <ScorpKing> mnovak: something simple.
[19:44] <mnovak> phxx: what's your question?
[19:44] <ScorpKing> !ask
[19:44] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:44] <jussi01> danube: comiz works nice here on 3,5. kde4 just has its own built in ones...
[19:44] <phxx> Where can i change to path from where the system loads shared libraries?
[19:44] <sigma_> danube: nope theres a kde4 livecd, check the kubuntu site for more details
[19:44] <danube> sigma_: oh i see, there's a new release!
[19:44] <phxx> I like to load a .so file from python
[19:45] <sigma_> danube: you didnt know that?
[19:45] <phxx> i have installed a self compiled version and one from the repos
[19:45] <danube> sigma_: not yet! *wannahaveit*
[19:45] <mnovak> phxx: you could try setting the env variable to the library location
[19:45] <phxx> the first one in /usr/lib the second one in /usr/local/lib
[19:45] <phxx> mnovak: ok, but do you know what variable i need to modify?
[19:45] <jussi01> !kde4 > danube
[19:46] <sigma_> im out
[19:46] <mnovak> phxx: the path
[19:46] <phxx> $PATH?
[19:46] <phxx> The $PATH specifies only the paths to the executables, i think
[19:46] <mnovak> phxx: sorry, you could put it in the LDPATH
[19:46] <phxx> but not to shared libraries, isn't it?
[19:47] <stdin> phxx: see 'man python' and look under 'ENVIRONMENT VARIABLES'
[19:47] <stdin> python looks under a different place than ld.so
[19:47]  * danube gone for reboot
[19:47] <FrauHansen> anyone using pidgin on KDE here?
[19:47] <mnovak> FrauHansen: yes
[19:48] <FrauHansen> mnovak: do you have the tiny popups when you get a new message?
[19:48] <mnovak> FrauHansen: you mean like growl?
[19:48] <phxx> stdin: thanks i will try it
[19:50] <FrauHansen> mnovak: i quickly googled for growl... that looks like the thing i have in mind
[19:51] <FrauHansen> mnovak: i thought libnotify would do the trick, but it doesn't pop up anything :(
[19:52] <supert0nes> anyone know why the kde4 files keep getting recompiled?
[19:52] <mnovak> FrauHansen: try this http://www.mumbles-project.org/2007/06/03/pidgin-plugin-now-available/
[19:53] <jussi01> supert0nes: kde4 support -> #kubuntu-kde4
[19:53] <supert0nes> i dont need kde support i'm just wondering
[19:54] <FrauHansen> mnovak: that looks interesting. thank you.
[19:55] <mnovak> FrauHansen: no problem, there are a few neat plugins for pidgin
[19:55] <phxx> ok, i've checked the manpage and the homepage ... but i think thats no pythonspecific task, because i want to load the Library with ctypes:
[19:56] <phxx> ctypes.cdll.LoadLibrary('libcaca.so.0')
[19:56] <matteo> anyone knows how to solve this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/182753
[19:56] <FrauHansen> mnovak: can i install the .deb and use it with my current installation of pidgin (2.3.1)?
[19:57] <mnovak> FrauHansen: you should be able to use the .deb package...it should work with your version too
[19:59] <jarkko_> How i can find (ati) x1950 driver. (Kubuntu)
[19:59] <stdin> supert0nes: fixes are being uploaded, that's why
[20:00] <ScorpKing> i have a router on eth0 but use dailup on ppp0 for internet. if i connect ppp0 first and the eth0 i get kicked off the internet and the i have to redial to get back online. how can i prevent that from happening?
[20:02] <llutz> ScorpKing: prevent eth0 from setting defaultroute
[20:02] <ScorpKing> llutz: how?
[20:03] <llutz>  modify /etc/init.d/networking script or interfaces-file
[20:04] <ScorpKing> llutz: ok thanks. will do
[20:06] <holycow> where are the kde 4 wallpapers stored?
[20:06] <stdin> /usr/lib/kde4/share/wallpapers/
[20:07] <stdin> just take the kde3 path and replace "/usr" with "/usr/lib/kde4"
[20:08] <holycow> oh! danke
[20:09] <cazevedo> Hello everyone. Can anyone help with a strange problem with KDE ?
[20:10] <ScorpKing> !ask | cazevedo
[20:10] <ubotu> cazevedo: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:11] <cazevedo> Ok. I have a (mainly) gusty install of kubuntu, which I updated with Synaptics. Now the KDE desktop display the contents of /, instead of $HOME/Desktop.
[20:12] <nosrednaekim> cazevedo: what do you mean by "mostly"
[20:12] <cazevedo> So, instead of showing the icons I had setup, I get icons for usr, var, etc, bin, ...
[20:12] <rainerf> hi all... can someone point me to a resource explaining how to install korundum4?
[20:13] <cazevedo> Mostly, because I pulled some upgrades from the hardy repositories.
[20:13] <FrauHansen> mnovak: thank you. looks like it works.
[20:13] <nosrednaekim> cazevedo: that probably wasn't smart
[20:14] <mnovak> FrauHansen: excellent, no problem
[20:15] <cazevedo> Probably, but nevertheless my problem boils down to: where does KDE get the $HOME/Desktop path ? Is it precompiled or is there a config somewhere ?
[20:15] <cazevedo> And why should a upgrade change that path ?
[20:15] <SSJ_GZ> cazevedo: It's configurable - one moment ...
[20:16] <SSJ_GZ> cazevedo: System Settings or KControl → System Administration → Paths
[20:17] <stdin> rainerf: the only package I can see named like that is libkorundum0-ruby1.8
On kControl the desktop path is correct. I'll try now to point it to another directory...
[20:18] <rainerf> stdin: yeah, that's the one for kde 3.5.7... kde4 got a kdebindings package, but i was unable to find it in ubuntu.. or, for that matter, the sources themselves ;)
[20:18] <SSJ_GZ> cazevedo: Ok
[20:18] <stdin> rainerf: then it's only available in svn
[20:19] <riccardo> hi kann mir jemand sagen wie ich auf quakenet joinen kann
[20:20] <stdin> rainerf: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebindings/ruby/korundum/
[20:20] <stdin> !de
[20:20] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[20:20] <rainerf> stdin: hm, you wouldn't by any chance know any document describing what i need to build it? i guess there will be some dependencies?
[20:20] <cazevedo> >SSJ_GZ>I changed the setting to another directory and then back to $HOME/Desktop and my icons are back. So apparently KDE caches this information somewhere and the upgrade screwed with it.
[20:20] <rainerf> stdin: thanks for the link :)
[20:20] <stdin> rainerf: cmake will usually tell you what you need, but a good start is the "kde4-devel" package
[20:20] <SSJ_GZ> cazevedo: Very odd, but I'm glad it works again =)
[20:20] <riccardo> some1 can explain me how i can join to quakenet
Thank you very much for your help.
[20:21] <SSJ_GZ> np
[20:21] <stdin> riccardo: if you're using konversation, try asking in #konversation
[20:21] <rainerf> stdin: hm, i've never used cmake, but i'll try :).. is there anything special to watch out for when building it for kubuntu? (perferrably building it so that i'll be able to remove it someday without hosing my system ;) )?
[20:22] <stdin> rainerf: cmake basically replaces the "./configure" script
[20:22] <s0u][ight> hi guys
[20:23] <rainerf> stdin: yes, that's what i figured.. do i need to take care of --prefix and stuff using cmake too?
[20:23] <s0u][ight> i wanted to install kubuntu on a friends pc
[20:24] <stdin> rainerf: yes, but it's different syntax with cmake, it'll be "cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/lib/kde4 /path/to/source"
[20:24] <rainerf> stdin: yes, that
[20:24] <nosrednaekim> s0u][ight: and...
[20:24] <rainerf> stdin: yes, that's exactly what i was looking for, thanks a lot :)
[20:24] <s0u][ight> but the first thing was that i couldn't set up the network (got the alternate cd) and the second thing was that the cd didn't recognize the hd so it asked for drivers :s
[20:26] <stdin> rainerf: if you're looking to make a .deb package, have a look at the kdebindings-kde4 source package
[20:27] <rainerf> stdin: what do you mean? i don't see this package here on my system (kubuntu gutsy)
[20:27] <stdin> rainerf: it's a source package, the binary packages it makes are python-kde4, python-kde4-dev, python-kde4-dbg and python-kde4-doc
[20:28] <s0u][ight> .............
[20:28] <stdin> rainerf: so to see the source (and importantly the debian/ dir) you can do "apt-get source kdebindings-kde4" (no sudo)
[20:29] <stdin> that'll download it to the current dir
[20:29] <ScorpKing> s0u][ight: weird. why didn't you just use the livecd?
[20:29] <nosrednaekim> s0u][ight: what hard drive?
[20:29] <august_> !sudo
[20:29] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[20:29] <bmk789> is there KDE software that works like gnome's power monitor, that shows more battery info like capactity and graphs power cunsumption?
[20:30] <s0u][ight> the cd didn't recognize my hard disk so it asked for the driver i had to choose it manually
[20:30] <rainerf> stdin: hm, how come that works, if the package is not in synaptic? (i'k kinda new to ubuntu, please bear with me)
[20:30] <s0u][ight> but i don't know what driver to choose
[20:30] <nosrednaekim> s0u][ight: what type of hard drive is it?
[20:31] <s0u][ight> i think sata 2
[20:31] <s0u][ight> dunno for sure
[20:31] <stdin> rainerf: because that's the source package name, the binary package(s) (.debs) don't have to be the same name as the source package
[20:31] <nosrednaekim> s0u][ight: does he have RAID?
[20:31] <s0u][ight> yeah
[20:32] <rainerf> stdin: ok, so do i get this right: the source package is distributed alongside the binaries of kde4, but can't be installed through synaptic (obviously, since it needs to be compiled first)?
[20:33] <andre> hi all
[20:33] <stdin> rainerf: no, this is for every package in the ubuntu archive. source packages is what we upload to the build system to make the debs for us
[20:33] <andre> i have a little problem in kubuntu7.10
[20:33] <stdin> rainerf: for instance konqueror is in the source package "kdebase", but "kdebase" is also a binary package. use "apt-cache showsrc <package>" to see what the source package names is (you can use "apt-get source" with binary package names too
[20:33] <nosrednaekim> s0u][ight: hardware raid or software?
[20:33] <andre> STRG+C / STR+V doesnt work from kde-konsole to kate and in other programs
[20:33] <s0u][ight> i think hardware not sure
[20:33] <andre> anyone have an idea where to look?
[20:34] <s0u][ight> the box of my motherboard says supports raid
[20:34] <august_> how do i execute binarys from konsole?
[20:34] <andre> i know, i can use middle mouse,but there i have a wheel, and its easier to press strg+c
[20:34] <stdin> august_: type the path to it
[20:35] <august_> oh yea.. thx
[20:35] <karthikp> Question: How do I disable Desktop Effects in KDE4 from a terminal. I've botched up the display and I see nothing but the mouse and darkness...
[20:35] <rainerf> stdin: ah, i think i get it now... i've just tried to compile korundum (the kdebindings src package contains it), but running cmake shows that it will not be built...
[20:35] <nosrednaekim> andre: there should be keyboard shortcuts for copy and paste in the keyboard shortcuts config gui
[20:36] <nosrednaekim> karthikp: hmm let me find the file which handles that
[20:36] <karthikp> I remember reading it in one of the planet kde blogs but I can't seem to find it.
[20:36] <karthikp> It was some variable that had to be set to DONT_BREAK_MY_DISPLAY :)
[20:37] <karthikp> Or something close...
[20:37] <rainerf> stdin: -DENABLE_KORUNDUM=on doesn't change anything either...
[20:37] <stdin> rainerf: it's probably just not working, so it's disabled
[20:37] <nosrednaekim> karthikp: try "rm .kde4/share/config/kwinrc"
[20:37] <karthikp> Got it. kwriteconfig --file kwinrc --group Compositing --key Enabled --type bool false
[20:37] <rainerf> stdin: :(
[20:38] <karthikp> rm'ing the file is too far, no? :)
[20:38] <stdin> rainerf: it'll probably be done by 4.1
[20:38] <nosrednaekim> karthikp: it'll fix it just fine... not dangerous either
[20:38] <nosrednaekim> karthikp: or you could edit it and dsable all plugins
[20:38] <rainerf> stdin: never mind, i got it, installing ruby1.8-dev wasn't a bad idea ;)
[20:39] <karthikp> Okay. So long then. Thanks for listening! (I disabled all plugins and turned on desktop effects and landed in this mess:( )
[20:39] <rainerf> stdin: is there any mechanism to build it and roll a .deb out of it? or should i straight away make/make install it?
[20:40] <ScorpKing> s0u][ight: can you use a livecd instead?
[20:40] <andre> nosrednaekim, yes i have, but it doesnt work
[20:40] <stdin> rainerf: making a deb (properly) isn't an easy process. but if it's just for you (on your system) look at checkinstal
[20:40] <andre> from "konsole" to "kate"
[20:40] <nosrednaekim> s0u][ight: if its on the MB, its not hardware
[20:41] <s0u][ight> ok
[20:41] <s0u][ight> nope don't have the live cd
[20:41] <rainerf> stdin: yeah, i've read about it once, wanted to try it anyways;)... thanks a lot!
[20:41] <nosrednaekim> s0u][ight: well, which MB do you have? maybe it is HW
[20:42] <s0u][ight> msi p4m900m2
[20:42] <nosrednaekim> ok
[20:45] <rakan> hello, i am trying to install pidgin 1.3.1 but it needs libpango >= 1,8.3 and i have 1.8.2
[20:45] <rakan> where can i find a .deb package for libpango?
[20:45] <rakan> it's not on getdeb
[20:48] <nexamac> rakan: did you even bother googling that one? :<
[20:48] <rakan> yup
[20:48] <rakan> didn't find a deb package
[20:48] <nexamac> ah
[20:49] <rakan> not even a website for this lib
[20:50] <nexamac> cant even find 1.8.3 oO
[20:50] <nexamac> like.. at al
[20:50] <nexamac> all
[20:50] <nexamac> stupid mac keyboard
[20:54] <rainerf> stdin: just to let you know, require 'korundum4' just worked :)
[20:54] <rainerf> stdin: thanks very much for your help!
[20:54] <stdin> :)
[20:54] <rakan> is there an application that can download apps from svn, compile them and install all at once? i mean something that can spare me compiling from source because i am a complete n00b
[20:55] <rakan> like jhbuild for gnome
[20:55] <nosrednaekim> !info konpile
[20:55] <buzukelis> hi. i wana begin to programing php. what software i shoud chose from synaptic package manager?
[20:55] <nosrednaekim> !info kompile
[20:55] <ubotu> Package konpile does not exist in gutsy
[20:55] <ubotu> kompile: interface for compilation automation for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3~beta2-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 172 kB, installed size 908 kB
[20:58] <jughead> is there a tutorial for typing special characters in kubuntu gutsy?  I need to do a beta sign and there's no character map program like windows
[20:58] <rakan> kompile is installed, what is the differance between profiled install and standard?
[20:58] <nosrednaekim> rakan: no idea,never used it before :)
[20:59] <trappist> rakan: just a guess, but it sounds like you can configure a profile with options, or accept the defaults (standard)
[21:00] <rakan> thanks
[21:00] <rakan> does it get dependencies if they are not installed by default?
[21:01] <trappist> probably not.  that would be really hard to do.
[21:01] <trappist> what are you building, btw?
[21:01] <rakan> i am trying to build libpango any version >= 1.18.3 for pidgin 1.3.1
[21:02] <rakan> because kubuntu repos have 1.2.1 deb package and did not find the newer version
[21:02] <rakan> on getdeb i found 1.3.1 pidgin package but requires the new libpango
[21:02] <rakan> no deb package for that
[21:02] <rakan> :(
[21:02] <trappist> rakan: if you're on gutsy you should have 1.18.3
[21:02] <rakan> i am on gutsy
[21:02] <trappist> but, don't install libpango from source.  you'll break a lot of stuff.
[21:02] <trappist> rakan: dpkg -i libpango1.0-0
[21:03] <rakan> hold on
[21:03] <trappist> there is also a pidgin package
[21:03] <bmk789> GASP! KDE4 release and i didnt notice it!!!!
[21:04] <rakan> Errors were encountered while processing:
[21:04] <rakan>  libpango1.0-0
[21:04] <TheFuzzball> bmk789: you should probably wait for KDE 4.1
[21:04] <nosrednaekim> bmk789: gimme your tin-foil had!
[21:04] <trappist> rakan: ack sorry, I meant dpkg -l
[21:04] <bmk789> TheFuzzball: why?? it buggy?
[21:05] <TheFuzzball> bmk789: yea
[21:05] <rakan> trappist: dpkg -l libpando1.0-0?
[21:05] <trappist> rakan: except spell pango right :)
[21:05] <ubuntu_> hola
[21:05] <TheFuzzball> bmk789: I've been building from trunk for the last few months and it still needs some work :)
[21:05] <ubuntu_> do you speak spanish ?
[21:05] <trappist> !es
[21:05] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:05] <ubuntu_> thanks
[21:05] <bmk789> TheFuzzball: if i install it will i be able to revert to 3.x?
[21:06] <trappist> bmk789: it installs alongside 3.x so you can choose when you log in
[21:06] <rakan> trappist: seems like -l gave some info and it says that libpango is v1.18.2
[21:06] <nosrednaekim> bmk789: I have found it stable, but lacking in features
[21:06] <TheFuzzball> bmk789: you should have an option for KDE3 and KDE4 in KDM
[21:06] <bmk789> ah
[21:06] <TheFuzzball> bmk789: if you don't it installs to /opt/kde4/bin/startkde so just create a l
[21:06] <TheFuzzball> damn
[21:07] <TheFuzzball> bmk789: make a link to it in /usr/share/xsessions
[21:07] <bmk789> ok
[21:07] <trappist> rakan: are you *sure* you're running gutsy?
[21:08] <rakan> 100% gutsy gibbon 7.10
[21:08] <trappist> rakan: possibly mine came from the backports repo, checking now...
[21:09] <DrakeJustice_> no one here would want to help me compile kdelibs trunk would they? a certain function has an undefined reference
[21:09] <nosrednaekim> TheFuzzball: in kubuntu it install to /usr/lib/kde4/bin
[21:09] <rakan> trappist: kk
[21:10] <rakan> trappist: The cd i installed gutsy from was sent to me by canonical themselves
[21:10] <trappist> rakan: 1.18.2 is in main, 1.18.3 is gutsy-proposed
[21:10] <TheFuzzball> nosrednaekim: did I not say that?
[21:10] <bmk789> kde4-core: Depends: kdebase-workspace (>= 4:4.0.0) but it is not going to be installed    ???
[21:10] <nosrednaekim> TheFuzzball: you said /opt
[21:10] <TheFuzzball> nosrednaekim: ah, yea, I built mine from trunk
[21:11] <TheFuzzball> nosrednaekim: got a bit mixed up :p
[21:11] <nosrednaekim> bmk789: disable the backports repository
[21:11] <trappist> rakan: so to get 1.18.3 you need to add a gutsy-proposed source to your sources.list
[21:11] <bmk789> o
[21:11] <trappist> rakan: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-proposed main restricted universe multiverse
[21:12] <rakan> trappist: updating list
[21:13] <trappist> rakan: you'll get a lot of "beta" stuff from that repo, so you may want to turn it off after you've got what you need
[21:14] <rakan> trappist: ok i am downloading upgraded version of libpango, thanks alot man
[21:14] <DavidTalbot> hello i have a little problem with ndiswrapper... the driver is loaded and the device is present but in iwlist there are no wireless extensions... anyone had an idea?
[21:14] <trappist> rakan: anyway in general installing stuff straight from source is a bad idea.  espeically if you're replacing a system library like pango from source - that will break a lot of stuff
[21:14] <rakan> trappist: I noticed, My kubuntu now is asking me for full upgrade 199 MB :p
[21:15] <madolfia> tonton t la ?
[21:15] <trappist> rakan: yeah that's probably coming from gutsy-proposed
[21:15] <madolfia> mikaelo
[21:15] <bmk789> nosrednaekim: same error without backports
[21:15] <rakan> trappist: Thanks for the advice, installing from source is not just a bad idea to me but more like a hard one :D because broken dependencies make me nervous
[21:15] <madolfia_> allo
[21:16] <nosrednaekim> bmk789: you are using the PPA?
[21:16] <bmk789> yes
[21:16] <trappist> rakan: that's what makes it a bad idea :)
[21:17] <nosrednaekim> bmk789: and you ran "sudo apt-get update" after disabling backports?
[21:17] <bmk789> yes
[21:17] <bmk789> ill run it again
[21:17] <trappist> rakan: apt-cache rdepends libpango1.0-0 | wc -l   <-- that's how many packages depend on your version of libpango
[21:18] <bmk789> nosrednaekim: yes, same
[21:18] <rakan> trappist: I think canonical must take care and create a 1 click install to make it easy for people to run linux
[21:18] <terran4000> nexamac: Hey, you had a question for me?
[21:18] <nexamac> terran4000: ubuntu sucks :P!
[21:18] <nosrednaekim> stdin: any clue about bmk789's problem?  kde4-core: Depends: kdebase-workspace (>= 4:4.0.0) but it is not going to be installed?
[21:18] <nexamac> terran4000: need to get my HDTV to work with ubuntu >_>
[21:18] <terran4000> nexamac: That's what alcohol and kubuntu is for
[21:18] <egork> hi there, I am trying to get help with compiz on Kubuntu but all attempts to connect to #compiz give me name lookup has failed. Trying to reconnect. Do I have to configure anything first?
[21:19] <NexaMac> terran4000: Kubuntu wont install :<
[21:19] <trappist> rakan: you have to balance making it easy with other things like security and stability.  if you make it too easy to do certain things, you'll have a lot more people breaking their machines because they're messing with stuff they're not ready for.
[21:19] <terran4000> NexaMac: o.O Won't install?
[21:19] <stdin> bmk789: have you tried a full upgrade yet via adept?
[21:19] <nosrednaekim> egork: its #compiz-fusion
[21:19] <NexaMac> downloaded and burned out 3 times, separate downloads all correct according to checksum
[21:19] <NexaMac> yar gives me an error letting me know either the disc or my HDD is broken
[21:19] <rakan> trappist: I guess u r right, but this one is for desktop so something has to be sacrificed
[21:19] <terran4000> o.O
[21:19] <bmk789> stdin: yes i did "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"
[21:19] <terran4000> NexaMac: weird stuff
[21:19] <NexaMac> thing is, ive tried 3 CD's and 2 HDD's, so i gave up an fetched gnome ubuntu
[21:19] <NexaMac> seems to work find
[21:19] <NexaMac> fine*
[21:19] <stdin> bmk789: after "sudo apt-get update" ?
[21:20] <bmk789> yes
[21:20] <terran4000> NexaMac: okie doki. you need to connect to the HDTV right?
[21:20] <NexaMac> yep in a few secs 90% install
[21:20] <terran4000> Sure
[21:20] <rakan> trappist: anyway, thanks alot for ur help i really appreciate it
[21:20] <NexaMac> terran4000: i can connect it fine, getting the resolution set up is the real problem :)
[21:20] <stdin> bmk789: check if "kdebase-bin-kde3" or "kdebase-bin-kde4" is installed
[21:21] <trappist> rakan: it's pretty dang easy as linux distros go.  probably the easiest.  there's still progress to be made, but some things shouldn't be sacrificed.  for example it shouldn't let you override dependencies without really *really* trying, because that can have severe consequences.
[21:21] <egork> nosrednaekim: same thing. the only channel I seem to be able to connect to is #kubuntu
[21:21] <terran4000> NexaMac: Hm, it would depend on the type of connection and quality of TV
[21:21] <NexaMac> terran4000: XGA cable over DVI output
[21:21] <NexaMac> i dunno all the english terms as my local stores use norwegian as main language ;>
[21:21] <bmk789> stdin: the kde3 one is installed
[21:22] <NexaMac> terran4000: the resolution im trying to use is 1360x768
[21:22] <terran4000> NexaMac: So, DVI - DVI connection?
[21:22] <rakan> trappist: one question left, where did u get the "deb ... etc" from? i mean if i dont have it in my apt list, is there a website that can provide u with such a link?
[21:23] <NexaMac> terran4000: TV has XGA (or VGA if you prefer that term) and computer's got DVI
[21:23] <stdin> bmk789: ok, pastebin what "apt-cache policy kdebase-workspace" shows
[21:23] <NexaMac> holy..
[21:23] <lewix> hi
[21:23] <NexaMac> O_O
[21:23] <lewix> does someone use audacity
[21:23] <NexaMac> it skipped Grub and keyboard using a ps/2 port doesnt work
[21:23] <NexaMac> wtf
[21:24] <bmk789> stdin: http://pastebin.com/m3ca4b9db
[21:24] <terran4000> NexaMac: brb, gotta bitch out the b-word date from last night.
[21:25] <NexaMac> o_O
[21:25] <NexaMac> ill ask wtf that means when you get back tbh
[21:25] <stdin> bmk789: post what errors "sudo apt-get install kdebase-workspace" throws at you
[21:25] <terran4000> it's OT so IM me if you wanna talk about 'that'.
[21:25] <trappist> rakan: I don't remember where I got it, I just remember I had a nasty bug in a package, and when I went to report it on launchpad it had already been reported and fixed, and the fixed package was in the proposed repo, so I dug it up on google or something.
[21:25] <stdin> NexaMac: watch the language, using acronyms like that isn't acceptable here
[21:26] <NexaMac> :<
[21:26] <stdin> terran4000: you too, watch the language please
[21:26] <bmk789> stdin: http://pastebin.com/m2bb7211
[21:26] <trappist> uh
[21:26] <stdin> bmk789: ok, do the same for kdebase-workspace-bin
[21:27] <rakan> trappist: thanks alot really
[21:27] <terran4000> stdin: I know. My apologies. "She" just really got under my skin. I'm not one to speak like that in public.
[21:27] <rakan> trappist: talk to you later on.... bye
[21:27] <bmk789> stdin: http://pastebin.com/m294cc71a
[21:28] <stdin> hmm
[21:28] <terran4000> NexaMac: okie oki
[21:28] <terran4000> *doki
[21:28] <stdin> bmk789: you're on gutsy yes?
[21:28] <bmk789> yes, 64-bit if that makes a difference
[21:28] <terran4000> NexaMac: That is a odd resolution. Have you tried setting it manually in xorg.conf
[21:29] <stdin> bmk789: do you have gutsy-backports enabled?
[21:29] <bmk789> no, its commented out
[21:30] <stdin> bmk789: aright, on we go. see what error trying to install ksysguard-kde4 shows
[21:31] <NexaMac> terran4000: aye, to some degree
[21:31] <bmk789> stdin: http://pastebin.com/m1243faa6
[21:31] <NexaMac> terran4000: ive added the resolution, but only as 1360x768 i didnt do that freaky stuff where i explain all the numbers if you know what i mean
[21:32] <stdin> bmk789: and on to libplasma1 now
[21:32] <bmk789> stdin: http://pastebin.com/d6b63f573
[21:33] <stdin> bmk789: well that's just, odd
[21:33] <terran4000> NexaMac: Can you paste-bin that xorg file ... well, the screen section part?
[21:34] <bmk789> stdin: maybe a dependancy issue will the 64-bit packages?
[21:34] <NexaMac> terran4000: right now theres nothing in it that isnt autogenerated 100% fresh install still updating :<
[21:35] <lewix> do songs sound different on linux or its just an impression?
[21:35] <stdin> bmk789: possibly, try "sudo aptitude install kde4-core" aptitude is usually more verbose
[21:35] <terran4000> NexaMac: ah, alright. IM/tell/e-mail me when you're ready.
[21:35] <nosrednaekim> stdin: bmk789: BTW.... 64 bit works fine here..
[21:35] <marx2k_> lewix: linux changes the lyrics to include technical specifications of the MP3 or OGG compression mechanism
[21:35] <marx2k_> Youve never heard Britanny Spears until you've heard her discussing MP# loudness compression issues
[21:35] <marx2k_> MP3
[21:36] <bmk789> stdin: http://pastebin.com/d343a48e0
[21:36] <lewix> marx2k, funny
[21:37] <NexaMac> terran4000: aim? is there a apt-get?
[21:37] <lewix> nah seriouslt it does sound different
[21:37] <terran4000> NexaMac: Kopete, gaim
[21:37] <NexaMac> ah
[21:37] <marx2k_> lewix: probably just your sound settings :)
[21:37] <stdin> bmk789: try running "sudo apt-get update" again, see if that changes (you may have caught the archive at a bad moment)
[21:38] <bmk789> same :\
[21:39] <bmk789> wait
[21:39] <bmk789> not adept has updates again
[21:40] <egork> is this a problem with konversation or am I doing something wrong. I can not connect to any other irc channe.
[21:41] <nosrednaekim> egork: type this in and hit enter "/join #compiz-fusion" without the quotes
[21:41] <lewix> marx2k, its like it adds more base
[21:43] <bmk789> stdin: upgraded come postgresql/C package but same thing with kde4-core
[21:43] <egork> I am still getting the same error: 22:43] [Error] Connection to Server #compiz-fusion lost: name lookup has failed. Trying to reconnect.
[21:43] <NexaMac> egork: did you type /server first? :>
[21:43] <stdin> egork: #compiz-fusion is a channel, not a server
[21:44] <family> how do you access the root terminal?
[21:44] <nosrednaekim> family: sudo -i
[21:44] <egork> no I did not. could you help me with the whole sequence? I am a newby in regard to IRC
[21:44] <NexaMac> all you type is "/join #compiz-fusion"
[21:44] <NexaMac> or "/j compiz-fusion"
[21:44] <stdin> bmk789: what does "apt-cache policy kdebase-workspace" show?
[21:44] <family> sudo -i k
[21:45] <family> oh beautiful
[21:45] <wesley> how can you install a font ? in kde4
[21:45] <egork> NexaMac: /j did it.
[21:46] <bmk789> stdin: http://pastebin.com/d152026b2
[21:46] <fizzz> how to start my kubuntu without the x server ?
[21:47] <egork> somehow konversation is a bit non-user-friendly, 'cause I have to ask how to join a channel. What do you think?
[21:47] <jpatrick> egork: /join #channel
[21:47] <bmk789> egork: its the same in almost all IRC clients
[21:48] <wesley> i got a ttf file how can i use the font ?
[21:48] <fizzz> how to start my kubuntu without the x server ?
[21:48] <NexaMac> konversation is far from not userfriendly :/
[21:49] <stdin> bmk789: that doesn't make sense to me, the dependencies it's showing aren't the same as what's in the packages...
[21:49] <NexaMac> why START it without the x server fizzz?
[21:49] <nosrednaekim> fizzz: put "nox" in the boot options
[21:49] <egork> jpatrick: no, what you suggest planly does not work. The caveat is with the #. I can only join, if I do not use # infront of the channel
[21:49] <bmk789> stdin: want to see my sources.list?
[21:49] <stdin> bmk789: maybe that'd help
[21:50] <NexaMac> egork: then dont use it :|
[21:50] <bmk789> stdin: http://pastebin.com/d2f815f9e
[21:50] <egork> NexaMac: hey, I have spent half an hour to figure this out. I have configured FIrefox to call konversation for irc:// but it did not do it for me.
[21:50] <stdin> egork: in konversation /join #channel works for me and every other user I've seen.
[21:51] <blackflag> are there kde 4.0 packages for kubuntu 7.10?
[21:51] <fizzz> nox in boot opiton where that be ?
[21:51] <egork> stdin: may be I am on another planet :-)
[21:51] <ibou> i can' install libflashplayer.so on Konqueror
[21:51] <ibou> i have a bug report
[21:51] <NexaMac> # work here as well
[21:51] <nosrednaekim> fizzz: press "e" on the grub menu
[21:51] <stdin> egork: best place to ask konversation questions is in #konversation
[21:51] <nosrednaekim> blackflag: yes
[21:51] <stdin> ibou: see the topic
[21:52] <egork> stdin: this is where I am heading now to :-)
[21:52] <blackflag> On my topic I dont see  ahint to kde 4.0!
[21:52] <fizzz> ok wherez this grub menu ?
[21:52] <ibou> stdin the topic is talking about the package. Im talking about the tarball from adobe website
[21:52] <holycow> !beryl
[21:52] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[21:53] <nosrednaekim> fizzz: thats where you select what to boot
[21:53] <NexaMac> terran4000? :o
[21:53] <holycow> !compiz
[21:53] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[21:53] <terran4000> NexaMac: hey.
[21:53] <fizzz> ok and just hit the e key
[21:53] <stdin> ibou: then what's the problem?
[21:53] <NexaMac> terran4000: im about ready now :<
[21:53] <nosrednaekim> fizzz: right and follow the help
[21:53] <terran4000> NexaMac: blogging in the research group, one sec.
[21:53] <stdin> whyphy: please stop changing nicks
[21:53] <NexaMac> aight
[21:53] <stdin> bmk789: that looks fine
[21:53] <fizzz> k thankz
[21:54] <whyphy> hello guys i cant connect to the site https://help.ubuntu.com ... i have no idea why and i need some help with the installation of kubuntu
[21:55] <ibou> stdin: i have a bug report when im trying it. I installed it by copying it in ~/.mozilla/plugins and installing the package konqueror-nsplugins  to detect it.
[21:55] <jpatrick> whyphy: works here, mate
[21:55] <mps> hi, I'm a newbie ... is this the place to ask a quesiton about difficulties with upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10?
[21:55] <ibou> stdin: konqueror is detecting it
[21:56] <jpatrick> !upgrade | mps
[21:56] <NexaMac> whyphy: can you connect to other webpages?
[21:56] <whyphy> yes
[21:56] <ubotu> mps: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[21:56] <NexaMac> whyphy: then either ubuntu.forums.org or ask in here imo
[21:57] <whyphy> and i tried also to connect to other "https" sites and it connects fine
[21:57] <mps> my Distrubtion Upgrade screen has hung at 96% of Installing the upgrades.  It says "installed openoffice.org-ked
[21:57] <stdin> ibou: still haven't seen what the problem is
[21:58] <nosrednaekim> mps: close the windows and run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" on the command line
[21:58] <nosrednaekim> *window
[21:58] <whyphy> ok so.. i had windows installed and i wanted to install ubuntu also. i made the partitions, i finished the installation but now i think i have to install a boot loader.. the installation didn't prompt me to do so
[21:58] <whyphy> now when i restart the computer it goes imidiatelly on windows
[21:58] <stdin> bmk789: can you try disabling the repository, running "sudo apt-get update" then re-enabling it and running "sudo apt-get update" again
[21:58] <whyphy> at this point i am from the live cd
[21:59] <NexaMac> whyphy: one HDD?
[21:59] <NexaMac> or several
[21:59] <whyphy> yes on a laptop
[21:59] <whyphy> one
[21:59] <NexaMac> hmm
[21:59] <NexaMac> tricky one then :O
[21:59] <nosrednaekim> whyphy: reinstall, except do manual partitioning
[21:59] <NexaMac> sounds like what i would end up suggesting too
[22:00] <bmk789> ok
[22:00] <whyphy> i did manual partitioning
[22:00] <mps> nosrednaekim: even though it advises strongly to not close?
[22:00] <nosrednaekim> mps: yes
[22:00] <FaiDillinGer> can someone please help about kbluetooth on gutsy ?? i cant send files from mobile phone to pc, but i can do the opposite
[22:00] <whyphy> should i try it again?
[22:00] <fizzz> man i couldnt get it to do anything when i hit the e key just keeps loading kubuntu
[22:01] <whyphy> i did manual partitioning i selected the "/boot" and "/" partitions to be formated
[22:01] <nosrednaekim> fizzz: you press e before hitting enter
[22:01] <nosrednaekim> whyphy: yes
[22:01] <fizzz> i didnt hit anything
[22:01] <NexaMac> FaiDillinGer: does the phone discover the pc?
[22:01] <fizzz> it just counted down
[22:01] <fizzz> after i hit e
[22:01] <ibou> stdin: signal 11 (SIGSEGV) with nspluginviewer
[22:01] <NexaMac> FaiDillinGer: is the pc set up to allow others to connect?
[22:02] <mps> dpkg: error processing mfc8840dlpr (--configure):
[22:02] <mps>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
[22:02] <whyphy> but... will it prompt me to install a boot loader?
[22:02] <whyphy> i mean should it?
[22:02] <NexaMac> whyphy: it shouldnt
[22:02] <terran4000> NexaMac: sorry about that. Now where were we?
[22:02] <nosrednaekim> whyphy: no, it shouldn't
[22:02] <NexaMac> grub should be installed by default whyphy
[22:02] <NexaMac> terran4000: are you getting payed for this?
[22:03] <NexaMac> terran4000: then why say sorry?
[22:03] <NexaMac> :)
[22:03] <mps> dpkg: error processing mfc8840dlpr (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[22:03] <NexaMac> clean xorg.conf, need to add 1360x768
[22:03] <terran4000> NexaMac: I'm too kind for my own good.
[22:03] <NexaMac> ;o
[22:03] <stdin> ibou: yes, that's known
[22:03] <FaiDillinGer> NexaMac: i have no idea :(
[22:03] <bmk789> stdin: gives the same thing :\
[22:03] <NexaMac> FaiDillinGer: good boy :p
[22:03] <ibou> stdin: the bug report lead me to think that the bug is from konqueror-nsplugins...
[22:03] <FaiDillinGer> NexaMac: but yes, the phone discovers the pc
[22:04] <stdin> ibou: the bug is actually in flash
[22:04] <ibou> stdin: what do you mean by : "yes, that's known" ?
[22:04] <stdin> ibou: it means that's a known issue already
[22:04] <ibou> !flash
[22:04] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[22:04] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[22:04] <nexamac> for the love of..
[22:04] <terran4000> nexamac: welcome back: http://pastebin.com/m43709b71
[22:05] <NexaMac> :<
[22:05] <ibou> stdin:  i can see it on the !flash topic ?
[22:05] <stdin> ibou: that's another issue altogether
[22:05] <Zombocom> !flash
[22:05] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[22:05] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[22:05] <Zombocom> lol
[22:05] <ibou> stdin:  where to learn about my issue ?
[22:05] <Zombocom> because he says !gnash
[22:06] <terran4000> NexaMac: well, I'm not 100% sure about the DefaultDepth part (if it's needed or not). But that should work as you need it to.
[22:06] <stdin> ibou: search on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu and http://bugs.kde.org
[22:06] <ibou> stdin:  ok thanks
[22:07] <ibou> stdin: but do you know a way to fix it ?
[22:07] <ibou> stdin:  becaus since i'm french i fight to find things on english forums...
[22:08] <stdin> ibou: I believe the issue is with the flash plugin itself, not actually with nspluginviewer. the only "fix" would be some workaround in the code of nspluginviewer
[22:08] <stdin> ibou: there's nothing you can do about it for now, except use another browser
[22:08] <ibou> stdin: yes that's what im thinkint too. I hope the fix will come soon
[22:09] <ibou> stdin: thanks
[22:09] <stdin> no problem
[22:09] <NexaMac> terran4000: set the resolution to 1024x768 :/
[22:10] <NexaMac> thats 246 pixels in width less then i want :<
[22:10] <NexaMac> err
[22:10] <NexaMac> 346
[22:10] <NexaMac> gah
[22:10] <NexaMac> nvm
[22:10] <NexaMac> its less :p
[22:10] <terran4000> NexaMac: haha.
[22:10] <FaiDillinGer> roger that
[22:10] <terran4000> NexaMac: well, I also know that xga won't get you HD
[22:11] <NexaMac> no but it works pretty well with winlol xp
[22:11] <NexaMac> *awaits the ban*
[22:11] <terran4000> NexaMac: Don't worry. They'd probably use the hammer on me way before on you.
[22:11] <NexaMac> :p
[22:12] <whyphy> can i check somehow if grub is already installed?
[22:12] <hdevalence> I'm having problems with samba
[22:12] <fizzz> i still couldnt get it to work man hit the e ley and enter before it counted down
[22:12] <hdevalence> it gives me "Unable to find any workgroups in your local network. This might be caused by an enabled firewall."
[22:12] <NexaMac> whyphy: load up a livecd, check the root for /boot/grub
[22:12] <hdevalence> but it workde befor and I din't change anything
[22:12] <NexaMac> terran4000: i forgot to mention, theres 2 monitors currently hooked up :>
[22:12] <hdevalence> err worked before; didn't
[22:13] <terran4000> NexaMac: Two monitors AND a HDTV? o.O
[22:13] <NexaMac> nono
[22:13] <NexaMac> HDTV and a monitor
[22:13] <terran4000> Ah
[22:13] <NexaMac> and a macbook between ;| and several behind me if you wish to know :P
[22:13] <icewaterman> i am looking for a software to secure my usb stick. it has to work both on linux and windows and should not require administrative privileges because i might not have those privileges wherever i go and want to use that stick
[22:14] <hdevalence> icewaterman: check out truecrypt
[22:14] <icewaterman> hdevalence: requires admin privileges
[22:14] <fizzz> trying to start my kubuntu with loading the x server any ideas ??
[22:14] <icewaterman> pretty much every application that gives you virtual drives does.
[22:14] <NexaMac> startx
[22:15] <hdevalence> icewaterman: what about creating an unencryped FAT32 partition and put the encrypted volume as a file there?
[22:15] <fizzz> trying to start my kubuntu without  loading the x server any ideas ??
[22:15] <hdevalence> wouldn't that let the automounter do the work?
[22:15] <terran4000> NexaMac: so, it currently the monitor/hd setup works?
[22:15] <icewaterman> hdevalence: the point is all about you need to be admin to load the drivers.
[22:16] <indystorm> hey is there an easy way to install apps in kubuntu?
[22:16] <icewaterman> for the virtual drive that is. while this is an elegant solution if you have admin privileges it is a painful one if you do not.
[22:16] <stdin> !adept | indystorm
[22:16] <ubotu> indystorm: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[22:16] <bmk789> stdin: give up?
[22:16] <hdevalence> icewaterman: ie the issue is that you won't have tc installed on any box?
[22:17] <nexamac> holy cake that one is getting old
[22:17] <nexamac> wts backspace key
[22:17] <stdin> bmk789: I really can't see why that's happening, I have a gutsy system and can install from scratch (just tested)
[22:17] <icewaterman> hdevalence: both that and i do not have privileges to install truecrypt  (i.e. at university)
[22:17] <hdevalence> icewaterman: what about including a binary that you can run as a user?
[22:17] <nexamac> fizzz: im not registered
[22:17] <icewaterman> hdevalence: and truecrypt traveller mode requires admin privileges in order to USE it
[22:18] <fizzz> trying to get my linux to run with out the x server
[22:18] <fizzz> so i can install my video drivers
[22:18] <hdevalence> icewaterman: tbh, I'm not a tc expert.
[22:18] <bmk789> stdin: would ssh access help?
[22:18] <NexaMac> fizzz: can you get into x?
[22:18] <Zombocom> my friend's computer when he boots it up
[22:18] <Zombocom> tries looking up drivers online or something
[22:19] <NexaMac> if so, just ctrl+alt+F1 and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[22:19] <NexaMac> kdm*
[22:19] <whyphy> i am in with the Kubuntu live cd, i mounted my boot partition to /mnt/sda3 and i checked that no grub is installed
[22:19] <hdevalence> icewaterman: perhaps ask on the tc irc channel or on their mailinglist
[22:19] <whyphy> or lilo... how can i install one?
[22:19] <NexaMac> whyphy: man grub :x
[22:19] <icewaterman> hdevalence: i know truecrypt, and i know it is not going to be a solution for my problem because of the way it works
[22:19] <icewaterman> thats why i do not need help with tc at all
[22:20] <stdin> bmk789: probably not (and it's not a great idea to give ssh access to strangers ;). I don't know why it's acting like that, but the packages will eventually all be in gutsy-backports to you could just wait, or try the liveCD
[22:20] <indystorm> ok so I am using adept. but I already have a program I want to run.... it's adobe flash, but it says I need netscape navigator... I tried to download netscape and it isn't listed with adept. Does that mean its not supported with ubuntu?
[22:20] <bmk789> ok
[22:20] <hdevalence> icewaterman: oh, i see.
[22:21] <stdin> indystorm: you install the flash package from adept
[22:21] <NexaMac> indystorm: it means netscape is oldschool :>
[22:21] <hdevalence> icewaterman: perhaps they might be able to point you towards another product.
[22:21] <NexaMac> try netscape.com or something :/
[22:22] <whyphy> ok for installing grub from a livecd should a changeroot?
[22:22] <icewaterman> hdevalence: afaik there is no tc channel at all
[22:22] <icewaterman> but i might be wrong about that.
[22:24] <DreadKnight> konqueror acts as a ftp client too right?
[22:25] <stdin> doesn't "act", it is :)
[22:25] <TimS> I have installed PHPMyAdmin but I dont know how to accesss it, what port is it on?
[22:25] <demetrio> hello
[22:25] <DreadKnight> good..
[22:26] <terran4000> NexaMac: You know where to find me if you need me. I'll be around doing some work.
[22:26] <demetrio> someone can explain to me why konqueroro cannot go out to internet?
[22:27] <DreadKnight> stdin: how do i connect? i've got an address, an user and a passwork? i go to the address and then i'm prompted to insert user/pass?
[22:27] <TimS> !PHPMyAdmin
[22:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about phpmyadmin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:27] <DreadKnight> d*
[22:28] <NexaMac> terran4000: aye, thanks again for your time, gonna go relax and play some games, later :)
[22:28] <terran4000> NexaMac: cheers.
[22:28] <DreadKnight> !ftp
[22:28] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[22:28] <fizzz> can somebody give me some help
[22:28] <stdin> DreadKnight: depends on the settings of the server, if it accepts anonymous connections. konqueror will try that first
[22:29] <NexaMac> demetrio: try firefox, if that doesnt work either, specifiy your network card
[22:29] <DreadKnight> stdin: and if not ? is there a 'format' i should introduce all the data in the address bar?
[22:29] <demetrio> NexaMac: yes firefox work fine i have problem with konqueror
[22:29] <stdin> DreadKnight: you can just do ftp://username:password@hostname/ to force a username/password, if you just do ftp://username@hostname/ then it will prompt for a password
[22:30] <NexaMac> demetrio: sudo apt-get remove konqueror :P
[22:30] <NexaMac> refuses to work here too for some reason :/
[22:30] <DreadKnight> stdin: that sounds reasonable, thanks
[22:30] <dettoaltrimenti> hi- im running kubuntu gutsy, and flash video runs extremely slow- I am running adobe flash 9, is there a way to downgrade to adobe 8 or are there any other options for me to change?
[22:31] <theperryfamily> Need help with USB HD mount issues in Kubuntu 7.10 with VirtualBox
[22:32] <fizzz> need help installing nvidia drivers it says that i am running x server and it can not install while its running any ideas
[22:34] <dettoaltrimenti> fizzz you could restart into the console and do it frmo the command line
[22:37] <DoYouKnow> hi. I installed kde 4.0 and plasma crashes frequently
[22:37] <DoYouKnow> what am I doing wrong?
[22:37] <DoYouKnow> oh
[22:37] <DoYouKnow> wrong chan
[22:41] <fizzz> need help installing nvidia drivers it says that i am running x server and it can not install while its running any ideas
[22:42] <mattrperry> need help with USB HD disappearing in kubuntu 7.10
[22:43] <marx2k_> mattperry: What do you mean by disappearing?
[22:44] <FaiDillinGer> where is ktorrent installed please ?? in which flder ?
[22:45] <jpatrick> FaiDillinGer: many places
[22:46] <MadSquirrelKing> is there a way to get my kubuntu machine to route? (eg broadcast a WEP internet connection)
[22:47] <mattrperry> it will be mounted and working fine...then I run Virtualbox with XP guest...the USB drive will unmount in Kubuntu (host) and mount in XP (guest) and will work fine in XP (guest)...when I send the shutdown from within the XP (guest) it will shutdown and close virtualbox...but then the usb drive does not re-mount in the Kubuntu (host) unless I either unplug it and plug it back in, turn off the power to the drive and back on, or reboot the k
[22:47] <MadSquirrelKing> any 1 have an idea as to how?
[22:48] <mjwild> Hi can some one tell me how I can create a DVD movie with a .AVI. I could do it with Windows and use nero, but can not get it right with K3B
[22:49] <MadSquirrelKing> does any one know how to make a kubuntu router? (the computer is a hp tablet, and i want to make it broadcasst a WEP connection)
[22:49] <julkie> hey hi
[22:50] <julkie> i have a problem with kopete
[22:50] <jpatrick> julkie: what's up?
[22:50] <MadSquirrelKing> whats the problem?
[22:50] <julkie> i just intalled kde4 with the repos in the kubuntu page
[22:51] <julkie> and kopete just no connect to msn
[22:51] <julkie> he dont say nothing....
[22:51] <julkie> just no conect silently
[22:52] <MadSquirrelKing> you sure you have all of the right details entered in? If you do, check to see if kopete is updatable. Othere than that i cant help. :P
[22:52] <julkie> ahhaha
[22:52] <julkie> no no kopete updates are aviables
[22:52] <MadSquirrelKing> hmmm...... :(
[22:52] <julkie> but there are other updates
[22:52] <MadSquirrelKing> install them.
[22:52] <jpatrick> julkie: msn works fine here...
[22:52] <julkie> and im downloadin de updates
[22:53] <julkie> jpatrik but kde4's kopete?
[22:53] <jpatrick> julkie: yes
[22:53] <MadSquirrelKing> does any 1 know how to set up a kubuntu router? (eg make it broadcast a WEP eesid)
[22:54] <jpatrick> if anyone's having troble with Kopete KDE4's Jabber please install libqca2-plugin-ossl from the PPA
[22:54] <MadSquirrelKing> i need to set up a home network, but i HATE windows
[22:54] <julkie> ummm i hope when my updates finish the instalation he works fine
[22:54] <MadSquirrelKing> should. :)
[22:54] <oldude67> i have simple question, i downloaded kde4 iso does that come as a whole distro of just kde4?
[22:55] <jpatrick> !kde4
[22:55] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[22:55] <pyrotix> gah, does anyone know how to use fill patterns in krita?
[22:55] <oldude67> i know where its at
[22:55] <MadSquirrelKing> no, sry
[22:55] <WorkingOnWise> kinda general question...has anyone used evolution and kontact enough reasonably say what the weaknesses are compared to the other?
[22:57] <rakan> Hello
[22:57] <rakan> i installed Dekorator but it aint showing up on menu
[23:01] <pyrotix> gah, does anyone know how to use fill patterns in krita?
[23:12] <kernco> I'm trying to install KDE 4.  I added the repositories to the sources.list, but then I try to run "sudo apt-get install kde4-core" and I get unmet dependency errors.
[23:13] <kernco> Depends "kdebase-kde4 kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime kdelibs5 kdepimlibs"
[23:14] <kernco> But if I try to install those manually, I just get more unmet dependencies
[23:17] <FaiDillinGer> what games can i play on linux ?
[23:17] <Kohlrabi> check www.happypenguin.org
[23:17] <Kohlrabi> or, check www.winehq.org for a list of Windows games working in wine
[23:17] <FaiDillinGer> thx
[23:18] <Kohlrabi> on winehq, heck the AppDB
[23:18] <Romina> hi
[23:19] <Romina> how can the K-Menu of a certain user be copied from one user account to an other one?
[23:20] <Romina> user XY edited his K-Menu,  added some new structure and some new programs .... I would like to copy this edited menu to other user accounts too
[23:20] <RadiantFire> Romina: things are stored in .local/share/applications I believe
[23:20] <RadiantFire> Romina: something like that
[23:20] <RadiantFire> Romina: the xml in a set of files around there are merged with the system wide menu
[23:21] <goalieca> what are the kde4 ~ppa1 changes
[23:22] <Romina> RadiantFire, thank you,  I will search for it there
[23:22] <Romina> is there a KDE4 backport for  Kubuntu 7.04 ?
[23:25] <goalieca> Romina, there is ... one sec
[23:26] <goalieca> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu gutsy main
[23:26] <goalieca> but.. what i'm wondering is what changes tehre were today... everything was labelled ppa1
[23:26] <goalieca> i don't see anything else in there
[23:26] <SportGuy> goalieca: my precious...
[23:28] <goalieca> kde4 isn't ready to use as a desktop even for the bleeding
[23:28] <goalieca> the apps are good. okular works pretty nice
[23:28] <Dragnslcr> goalieca- gutsy is 7.10, not 7.04
[23:29] <goalieca> oh. heh. didn't notice
[23:32] <Romina> goalieca: thank you but I am using 7.04
[23:32] <Romina> not 7.10
[23:39] <fizzz> anybody here help login as root ?
[23:39] <fizzz> hrlp me
[23:40] <poison--> press ESC while booting
[23:40] <WorkingOnWise> fizzz: you don't log in as root in Kubuntu. YOU do admin stuff with sudo
[23:43] <Tarin> how long to wait for my nick to be registered
[23:44] <ubuntu__> hello
[23:47] <simon___> Hi. I don't really udnerstand what this sentence means "To avoid having to start a second X server for a full session install xserver-xephyr and run Xephyr :1 & export DISPLAY=:1; xterm and run startkde in the Xerphyr xterm." from: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-kde-40-stable-in-ubuntu-gutsy.html
[23:47] <simon___> thx for help
[23:47] <acorn_> yo guys so i got kubuntu and im wanting to change the appearance..for instance... font size, color..
[23:47] <simon___> can someone explain it to me?
[23:47] <acorn_> anyone direct me where to go? i can figure out the rest
[23:48] <simon___> in plain english...
[23:48] <bascule> anybody else get this http://rafb.net/p/AyjCId39.html I tried this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4126834 to no avail
[23:48] <psycho_____> acorn_: maybe go to kde control panel
[23:48] <acorn_> where do i go to get to control panel?
[23:48] <acorn_> i was using ubuntu before and this much diff
[23:48] <acorn_> >_>
[23:49] <psycho_____> acorn_: the main button on your bottom-left
[23:49] <bascule> crazy thing is I did a friend an ubuntu isntall yesterday, all his effect work fine
[23:49] <psycho_____> acorn_: and then look at control panel from the list
[23:50] <Tarin> how long to wait for my nick to be registered
[23:50] <bascule> immediate
[23:51] <simon___> noone here that can explain the above pasted sentence?
[23:51] <psycho_____> simon___: thank you
[23:52] <FaiDillinGer> is there something like compiz for kubuntu ? or is it only for gnome desktops ?
[23:52] <FaiDillinGer> !compiz
[23:52] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[23:52] <FaiDillinGer> ok sorry
[23:53] <Tarin> bascule here is the prob tho. i keep trying to set my email for my nick and it tells me to register my nick first
[23:54] <Tarin> i have registered my nick already and it still comes back not registered
[23:54] <psycho_____> Tarin: /msg nickserv register nick password if my memory serves me right
[23:54] <bascule> Tarin: /j #freenode, wait till you are voiced, ask them :)
[23:55] <psycho_____> Tarin: /msg nickserv register password to register your nick
[23:56] <Tarin> yeah i did that but it gives me a message not to use register again for 120 seconds
[23:56] <simon___> psycho_____: what does it mean and what does it do?
[23:56] <psycho_____> Tarin: wait 120 seconds and try that again
[23:56] <caspercasper> does anyone in here have experience with the ode45 solver in matlab?
[23:57] <Tarin> ok working now
[23:57] <psycho_____> Tarin: good
[23:58] <Tarin> ok new question
[23:58] <Tarin> anyone know how to create a new server?
[23:58] <psycho_____> Tarin: no thanks for psycho_____ ?
[23:58] <Tarin> sorry man and thanks
[23:59] <Tarin> forgot my chat manners for a sec
[23:59] <psycho_____> Tarin: yw
[23:59] <penos> ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggunit
[23:59] <penos> oops