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jameshis there a recommended way of building packages from snapshots of the upstream VCS?04:29
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superm1_now with the topic saying that PPA appears to not be accepting uploads, does that mean it just "appears", or that it literally isn't?05:13
RAOFsuperm1_: It isn't.05:24
superm1_that's a shame.05:24
superm1_but also would explain my confusions05:24
RAOFOr, at least, if it is it's accepting them in a totally useless way (not building them, for example)05:24
superm1_i pushed several packages over and over thinking that soyuz was just eating them05:25
jtvHello 'padders06:20
jmlhello06:21
jtvjml: good night06:21
jmljtv: :)06:22
carlosmorning08:19
StevenKIs there any status update on PPA uploads? I uploaded something large to the ubuntu-mobile PPA this morning, and I'd rather not redo it08:46
BjornTStevenK: i think you'll have to wait for cprov or bigjools to come online.08:51
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pooliehi, is there any plan to track the number of downloads from the file download feature09:49
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ubotuNew bug: #182795 in rosetta "Import queue UI too slow" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18279510:06
mptpoolie, bug 12105810:09
ubotuLaunchpad bug 121058 in launchpad "Show a download count for project admins on downloads page" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12105810:09
pooliethanks, got it10:10
=== bigjools changed the topic of #launchpad to: PPA uploads are not being processed at the moment, it will be fixed shortly. Please don't re-submit uploads. | Next development meeting (all welcome): Thu 10 Jan 2008, 1400UTC #launchpad-meeting | Help: https://help.launchpad.net | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com
jordibigjools: topic lists the date for the previous devel meeting10:57
bigjoolsjordi: heh not my fault but thanks, I'll fix it10:57
=== bigjools changed the topic of #launchpad to: PPA uploads are not being processed at the moment, it will be fixed shortly. Please don't re-submit uploads. | Next development meeting (all welcome): Thu 17 Jan 2008, 1400UTC #launchpad-meeting | Help: https://help.launchpad.net | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com
jordibigjools: just informing the last modifier ;)10:58
jordithanks10:58
bigjoolsjordi: I realised :)10:58
gesercprov: Hi, can you check where the checkstyle binary packages went? checkstyle may got moved to universe short before the fix for the arch:all bug.11:17
cprovgeser: give me a minute11:19
gesersure11:19
cprovgeser: I have to deal with other issue before, then I will check it for you.11:19
pochuIf a bugzilla bug was closed with status RESOLVED and resolution OBSOLETE, is it right if a bug task in Launchpad says Invalid, or should I file a bug about it? Looks to me like the right status should be Fix Released.11:33
intellectronicapochu: i think INVALID is correct, since OBSOLETE in bugzilla means that it wasn't released, no?11:36
pochuMaybe the bug wasn't closed properly, but in this case the bug is fixed in VCS.11:37
pochuhttp://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48882511:37
ubotuGnome bug 488825 in gst-plugins-bad "ffdemux_flv: Element doesn't implement handling of this stream" [Normal,Resolved: obsolete]  - Assigned to gstreamer-bugs@lists.sourceforge.net11:37
pochuLook at comment #711:38
pochuHe said something like "It's already fixed in VCS, so closing as OBSOLETE"11:38
intellectronicapochu: yeah, which basically means - this bug is invalid, because it's no longer relevant11:42
pochuintellectronica: alright then. I'd have closed as fixed, and since I don't know bugzilla very much I was wondering whether it was ok. Thanks for looking :)11:47
intellectronicapochu: that's part of the problem with bugzilla - it's hard to know how to interpret all those different options, and different people use them for different purposes :)11:48
pochu:)11:51
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cprovgeser: I'm resurrect the mentioned binary publication, https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/i386/checkstyle/+index. Let me know if there are others.12:07
Hobbseehey cprov 12:07
cprovHobbsee: hey, how is it going ?12:08
gesercprov: thanks12:08
Hobbseecprov: it's going OK.  i haven't killed anyone yet today.12:08
* Hobbsee has been preparing her bigger cellar.12:08
cprovI'm not sure, it's exactly a "good to know" news, but fine :)12:10
=== bigjools changed the topic of #launchpad to: PPA uploads are fixed and will process your packages in due course. Please don't re-submit uploads. | Next development meeting (all welcome): Thu 17 Jan 2008, 1400UTC #launchpad-meeting | Help: https://help.launchpad.net | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com
ubotuNew bug: #182822 in launchpad "latest-bugs.atom feed is incorrectly named" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18282212:10
Hobbseecprov: you of course know that the bigger cellar is because the older one is full?12:11
bigjoolscharming12:12
Hobbseeheh, sorry :)12:13
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geserHobbsee: do one want to know with what you've filled it? 12:15
Hobbseegeser: probably safer not to know.  but the answer should be reasonably obvious anyway12:16
ubotuNew bug: #182828 in launchpad "launchpad should tell users that "Launchpad" is a trademark" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18282812:31
* rjek shudders.12:37
rjekWhat's the usual lead time on somebody testing and OKing a CVS import to launchpad?12:38
kikorjek, usually a day, but I know that mwh is on vacation. what project is yours?12:39
Hobbseeoh goody, ppa got fixed12:39
* Hobbsee ponders throwing kde4libs at it12:39
rjekkiko: wxLua.12:39
ubotuNew bug: #182830 in malone "Linking package to bug report doesn't suggest checking upstream" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18283012:40
kikorjek, let me check12:41
rjekkiko: It's not my project, but I created it on launchpad as I want to use bzr to branch from it.12:46
kikorjek, yeah, I totally want to get this import going12:46
kikorjek, I'll email tim to get it sorted by tomorrow12:46
rjekkiko: Thanks!12:47
rjekAlso, bug: https://code.launchpad.net/~launchpad-stop-whinging/gniggle/gniggle <-- there is no email address in the changes whose author is entirely set as "<email address hidden>"12:49
rjek(the author string for those changes is "rjek" [branch was imported from svn.])12:50
kikorjek, I think it's just because we have no way of asserting identity based on the string.13:02
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rjekkiko: Well, it correctly obscures the email address part of the arbitary-string-username of the very latest changeset.13:03
rjek(and succeeds in not obscuring any other part of it)13:03
rjekBut something appears to make it think that "rjek" is an email address.13:04
kikorjek, hmm, weird13:04
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Kmoshttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/scim-bridge/0.4.14-1ubuntu113:49
Kmoslaunchpad didn't close the bug report automatically13:49
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BjornTKmos: the .changes file doesn't seem to include headers for closing that bug: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/11322955/scim-bridge_0.4.14-1ubuntu1_source.changes13:54
KmosBjornT: You didn't see this? "LP: #181029" ?13:57
Kmos scim-bridge (0.4.14-1ubuntu1) hardy; urgency=low13:57
Kmos .13:57
Kmos   * debian/rules:13:57
Kmos     + Remove empty po/scim.pot before building to make pkgstriptranslations13:57
Kmos       happy (Fix FTBFS; LP: #181029).13:57
BjornTKmos: launchpad doesn't parse that text, though. launchpad looks at the Launchpad-bugs-fixed header, which the client is supposed to add.13:59
KmosBjornT: so that's a problem of the uploader.. :)14:00
KmosBjornT: thanks for the explanation14:00
geserKmos: the question is why the necessary header wasn't written into the .changes file14:01
geserLP: #xxx should be enough for it14:01
Kmosgeser: Need to ask ZhengPeng Hou about it14:02
Kmosmaybe he uses an old ubuntu ?14:03
Kmosor even debian and not ubuntu.. lol14:03
Kmoscprov: i think the package mythbuntu-common, got the same problem of checkstyle, when moving to universe.14:26
cprovKmos: let me check14:26
Hobbseethat's still in NEW14:26
KmosHobbsee: ah ok, thanks =)14:27
Hobbseelast i checked, anyway14:27
KmosSuccessfully built  (NEW)14:27
Kmosshould be in NEW14:27
* Hobbsee pondered going thru it, but thought that having to find an archive admin to send it to !main made it not worht it.14:27
rulushmm, how do I upload a file to appear under the 'Download project files' section?14:28
Hobbseecprov: do i want to ask what happened that broke PPAs yesterday?14:28
cprovHobbsee: no, you don't ;)14:29
Hobbseecprov: yes i do.  please tell :)14:29
* Hobbsee is curious14:29
Hobbsee /query if you like14:29
cprovHobbsee: ignorance is bless in this case, let's pretend it never happened, ok ?14:30
Hobbseehehe, OK :)14:31
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BUGabundohi there14:37
BUGabundohow can I generate a po/pot file?14:37
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carlosBUGabundo: hi15:35
carlosBUGabundo: is it for an application you are working on? or something else done by other developers?15:35
BUGabundowe are a team of developers, carlos15:37
BUGabundoand we are trying to use launchpad/roseta15:38
BUGabundofor translations...15:38
carlosBUGabundo: what do you use right now to handle translations?15:38
BUGabundobut before that, I guess I need to generate a pot file to upload to launchpad15:38
carlosor isn't your application able to be translated?15:38
carlosright, if you use gettext, that's easy, but then, I guess you would know how to get a .pot/.po file15:38
BUGabundoour strings right now are in Portuguese via a MySQL table15:38
carloshmm, is your application a web application ?15:39
BUGabundogettext? ok, I'll look it up on apt-get15:39
BUGabundoyes it is... and also a offline app15:39
BUGabundothe prolog part of it15:39
carlosBUGabundo: we have a requirement of having the source code available with a free/open software license15:40
BUGabundocheck it out15:40
BUGabundohttps://launchpad.net/easygate15:40
carlosBUGabundo: so you will need to release the web application code in that way if you want to use Launchpad15:40
* carlos checks15:41
BUGabundostill working out the use of bazaar... 15:41
BUGabundosome devs on windows other on ubuntu (gutsy and hardy)15:41
carlosBUGabundo: you don't really need to use gettext, but it would help you to handle imports/exports (and also, to handle all localisation parts of your application)15:41
carlosthere are other projects that use a set of scripts15:42
BUGabundoso, if I dump the mysql table15:42
carlosto convert their own file format to/from .pot/.po file format15:42
BUGabundothen run gettext, ill get a pot file?15:42
carlosno, you will need to use your own script15:43
carlosgettext extracts strings from source code15:43
BUGabundohummm15:44
BUGabundothat's going to be tuffer15:44
carlosbut, AFAIK sql output is not handled15:44
BUGabundosince there is code in OpenGL, c#, c++, prolog15:44
BUGabundololol15:44
BUGabundothe mysql table already has the string, one per line15:44
BUGabundo* row15:44
carloshmm, does openGL have its own language? I didn't know15:45
BUGabundonope15:45
carlosanyway, C# and C++ are already handled by gettext15:45
BUGabundowe're using c++ for it15:45
BUGabundoahh great15:45
carlosI'm not sure about prolog though15:45
BUGabundoas I said, prolog will interact with the mysql bd, and coded with c++15:46
BUGabundomaybe I can just make a small c# script to use the MySQL table and gettext15:47
carloswhere do you have the message IDs used to get the strings from MySQL ?15:48
carlosin C# and C++ or also inside prolog code?15:48
BUGabundoc++ for the prolog UI15:48
BUGabundoand c3 for the website15:48
BUGabundoplus the OpenGL UI15:48
carlosthink about source code15:48
carlosnot about the front-end15:49
BUGabundook15:49
carlosgettext has a program that extract strings directly from your source code and an API to retrieve translations on run time15:49
BUGabundoI've never used gettex15:49
BUGabundoso I don't really know how it works15:49
BUGabundoand how does it exports the translation strings, so I can input them into the bd again?15:50
carlosdon't worry, that's why I'm asking you so much to see whether it would help you or if it's not really useful, to see whether you just need a script to export/populate your database15:50
carlosoh, so you want your strings always in your database?15:50
carlosthen gettext doesn't fit your use case15:50
BUGabundohumm15:51
BUGabundook15:51
carlosand thus, you will need a set of strings that generate the .po files from what you have in your database, and another script that gets a .po file and applies it to your database15:51
BUGabundolets start from the beginning 15:51
BUGabundoI already have some strings on the BD15:51
BUGabundonow I can dump them, and I need a away to get them on Launchpad15:52
BUGabundoso our dev plus a few other guess can help translate15:52
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BUGabundowhat's the format of the pot(po files?15:52
carlosBUGabundo: ok, so you will need to do it yourself with a script15:52
BUGabundo*pot/po15:52
carloslet me check for the file format description...15:53
BUGabundothanks carlos15:54
carlosBUGabundo: http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/html_chapter/gettext_10.html#index-file-format_002c-_0040file_007b_002epo_007d-5615:56
* BUGabundo opening site15:56
carlosBUGabundo: the only difference between a .pot and a .po file is that a .pot file doesn't have any translation15:56
BUGabundook, thanks15:57
carlosnp15:57
carlosBUGabundo: I need to leave now, but as a hint, msgid should be the English text to be translated, that way translators have an easy way to see string changes and fix the translations. It's not a must, but that makes translators life more easy15:59
carlosBUGabundo: if you have any other question danilo or jordi would also help you a bit15:59
BUGabundothanks a lot.15:59
BUGabundoI'll read that site and see what I can get out of it15:59
carlosok, good luck :-)16:00
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ubotuNew bug: #182895 in rosetta "Add support for the new comment type in gettext #|" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18289516:20
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* Hobbsee wonders about how one goes about removing all their launchpad knowledge16:25
oojahLobotomy?16:25
Hobbseeheh16:26
BUGabundoHobbsee: dumps it on a DVD+r and then types sudo rm -rf /usr/local/launchpad16:26
Hobbseemaybe16:26
Hobbseeah, right16:26
Hobbseemoving to debian would be another wya, i guess.16:26
Hobbseeor do stuff on other projects instead16:27
* Hobbsee --> bed16:28
BUGabundogood nite Hobbsee16:29
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BUGabundohow was lunch, salgado?16:39
salgadoBUGabundo, delicious! :)16:39
BUGabundoehehe16:40
BUGabundoanything good?16:40
BUGabundohum that bad, enh, salgado?16:54
salgadoBUGabundo, no, it was good. rice, beans, salad, chicken... the usual brazilian lunch17:07
BUGabundoeeheheh17:08
dokodo uploads to ppa's curently work?17:22
BUGabundolook at the # sbject17:25
BUGabundololol17:25
BUGabundoit should...17:25
mptsalgado, you're making me hungry17:28
BUGabundoeheh mpt17:29
BUGabundoyou should taste our Leitão (small pig)17:29
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jordikiko!18:18
kikojordi!18:32
kikowow, long time no see18:32
jordiyeah dude18:33
jordihow are things?18:34
kikojordi, busy but great. was in israel for the end of the year, then spent a week in germany and prague, and am now back here18:38
kikoin london18:38
kikowed I fly home18:38
jordikiko: woa18:45
jordikiko: dude I go to Germany/Prague/Budapest next week18:46
jordiany recommendations?18:46
mptGoooooooooooooooooooooooooood evening Launchpadders!18:48
kikoEVEN1ng18:48
kikojordi, wow, take lots of warm clothing18:49
kikojordi, it's nice but freezing there18:49
jordiI can expect that18:50
jordigreat18:50
jordiwhat did you do/see?18:50
kikojordi, so, I went to the castle, and the jewish museum18:52
jordihow cold is freezing?18:52
jordiwell below 0?18:52
kikono!18:53
kikobut there was snow on the ground and it wasn't melting very fast!18:53
jordiugh, snow18:53
jordiboots, then.18:54
ubotuNew bug: #182948 in launchpad "Poppy daemon has no logging" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18294819:30
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ubotuNew bug: #183009 in malone "nomination listings on a bug page are odd" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18300923:51

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