| alex_mayorga | just trying to start gnome | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| alex_mayorga | my laptop only works in safemode gnome | 00:01 |
| RAOF | alex_mayorga: That's my fault, probably. xgl is starting too slowly, or not at all. | 00:07 |
| RAOF | alex_mayorga: I'll be uploading a fixed xserver-xgl soon. In the mean time, do you really want xgl? If not, touch ~/.config/xserver-xgl/disable | 00:07 |
| alex_mayorga | RAOF, how to fix? | 00:07 |
| alex_mayorga | fair enough | 00:08 |
| alex_mayorga | anyone else seeing his/her HP usb printer not working? | 00:09 |
| RAOF | (By "soon" I mean "hopefully tonight, maybe later") | 00:09 |
| alex_mayorga | bug 179537 anyone? | 00:13 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 179537 in cupsys "Error when cancelling print task" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179537 | 00:13 |
| alex_mayorga | RAOF, can you take a look to other paste http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51958/ | 00:44 |
| RAOF | alex_mayorga: Common problem, not my fault :) | 00:47 |
| RAOF | That package is just broken for now. | 00:47 |
| alex_mayorga | RAOF, is it what makes update-manager "Could not calculate the upgrade"? | 00:49 |
| alex_mayorga | or it's a different bug? | 00:49 |
| WorkingOnWise | !codecs | 00:49 |
| ubotu | For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 00:49 |
| RAOF | alex_mayorga: No idea, sorry | 00:52 |
| articpenguin3800 | if i go back to gutsy should i delete my /home? | 01:04 |
| Johan- | just did a "update-manager -d" and everything seemed to work good until 1 minute before the entire upgrade was done when everything closed | 01:13 |
| Johan- | is there any command to run to complete everything? | 01:14 |
| LjL | possibly apt-get dist-upgrade | 01:15 |
| LjL | or do-release-upgrade | 01:15 |
| Johan- | thanks :) | 01:15 |
| Ryuho | what's a good gui based ftp/ssh connect program that can drag and drop files? | 02:07 |
| RAOF | Nautilus | 02:08 |
| RAOF | Places->Map Network Drive | 02:08 |
| RAOF | Sorry, Places->Connect To Server | 02:08 |
| DeepB | Ryuho: try #ubuntu , not here :) | 02:12 |
| Ryuho | i did that too, thanks go answer | 02:12 |
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| alex_mayorga | what's the name for restricted-extras in hardy? | 02:42 |
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| jacob | alex_mayorga: still ubuntu-restricted-extras I think | 02:54 |
| Sonic11 | Ha, I seem to have a booting problem with my laptop. it says grep and sh aren't found :D | 03:05 |
| Sonic11 | Boots still, but it takes like 2 minutes to get past those messages | 03:05 |
| Sonic11 | Also says that AppArmor is unable to register before those 2 errors. Why is it that App Armor can't register? | 03:06 |
| Sonic11 | oop, over to desktop | 03:09 |
| Sonicadvance1 | Error messages on start up are "Starting up ... \n AppArmor: Unable to register AppArmor \n Loading, please wait... \n /scripts/init-top/brltty: 19: grep: not found \n sh: grep: not found \n /scripts/init-bottom/udev: 25: rm: not found" | 03:12 |
| Sonicadvance1 | Anyone able to help? | 03:13 |
| alex_mayorga | what you get from which grep | 03:15 |
| alex_mayorga | and which sh | 03:15 |
| Hirvinen_ | Should alpha 3 include newer stuff than can be found in the hardy repos? | 03:16 |
| Sonicadvance1 | what do you mean alex_mayorga? | 03:18 |
| alex_mayorga | on a terminal type "which sh" | 03:18 |
| Hirvinen_ | http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/hardy/alpha3 says it includes kernel 2.6.24.3.5 while the newest one I can see is 2.6.24.3.3 | 03:18 |
| Sonicadvance1 | /bin/sh alex_mayorga | 03:18 |
| alex_mayorga | what about grep? | 03:19 |
| Hirvinen_ | Sonicadvance1: ls -l /bin/sh ? | 03:19 |
| Sonicadvance1 | /bin/grep alex_mayorga | 03:19 |
| Sonicadvance1 | Hirvinen_, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-12-06 03:33 /bin/sh -> dash | 03:19 |
| Hirvinen_ | Sonicadvance1: And it shows those "\n"s? | 03:20 |
| Sonicadvance1 | Hirvinen_, no, those are just ment to symbolize new lines | 03:20 |
| Hirvinen_ | Ok. | 03:21 |
| Sonicadvance1 | You wouldn't want me to have spammed the channel would ya? ;) | 03:21 |
| alex_mayorga | RAOF ping | 03:21 |
| Hirvinen_ | No, of course not. I just thought that might have been due to dash's echo not supporting -e, which results in escapes supported by bash's or gnu's echo being shown. | 03:24 |
| Sonicadvance1 | ah | 03:24 |
| Hirvinen_ | Anyways. I suffer from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/177504 and as you can see, a few guys claim that it would be fixed in alpha. | 03:25 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 177504 in kde-guidance "guidance-power-manager crashes on startup" [Undecided,New] | 03:25 |
| Hirvinen_ | I thought that those alphas would be constructed from the hardy repos, but they are implying that alpha 3 would include newer stuff. As does the difference in kernel versions. | 03:27 |
| alex_mayorga | and firefox 3, but I don't see that either | 03:28 |
| Hirvinen_ | yup | 03:28 |
| alex_mayorga | anyone knows? | 03:28 |
| Sonicadvance1 | hm, annoying bug | 03:28 |
| Sonicadvance1 | Should just reinstall | 03:29 |
| alex_mayorga | should be in the same repos, right? | 03:29 |
| Hirvinen_ | Apparently my beliefs have been incorrect. | 03:29 |
| DarkMageZ | firefox 3 is installable via the package manager | 03:29 |
| Hirvinen_ | There's firefox-3.0 package | 03:29 |
| Sonicadvance1 | Think I'll just manually remove the apparmor init script >.> | 03:30 |
| alex_mayorga | !netbeans | 03:31 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about netbeans - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 03:31 |
| alex_mayorga | !motu | 03:32 |
| ubotu | motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | 03:32 |
| Sonicadvance1 | beh, the apparmor file is gone | 03:32 |
| RAOF | alex_mayorga: Pong? Contextless pings are bad, mkay? | 03:58 |
| alex_mayorga | RAOF, just wondering if it's already "night" on your time zone :) | 04:03 |
| RAOF | No :) | 04:03 |
| alex_mayorga | or whether you need a tester for your xgl hack | 04:03 |
| RAOF | I'll ping you if I do. | 04:04 |
| RAOF | But probably not. We're not in feature freeze. The entire xserver-xgl userbase is my tester! | 04:04 |
| alex_mayorga | OK and sorry to bother | 04:04 |
| RAOF | No problem. | 04:04 |
| RAOF | But in future you should probably ping: re <thing you want answered>, rather than just ping. | 04:05 |
| alex_mayorga | point taken | 04:05 |
| DanaG | GLib-ERROR **: The thread system is not yet initialized. | 04:19 |
| DanaG | What causes that? (trying to run ccsm from git Compiz, and that error only happens if using the gconf backend. | 04:19 |
| RAOF | DanaG: OOOoh, ugh. That'd be some part of the ccsm/libcompizconfig/compizconfig-gconf stack using threads without calling gtk.thread_init() (or the glib version). | 04:33 |
| RAOF | DanaG: Grumble on #compiz-fusion or #compiz-fusion-dev, or hit upstream bugzilla. | 04:34 |
| DanaG | Aah, part of it was me missing python-pyrex. | 04:42 |
| DanaG | And yet somehow it had compiled.... | 04:42 |
| DanaG | I hope that durn idle scheduling will be fixed. | 04:44 |
| RAOF | Idle scheduling? | 04:48 |
| DanaG | Oh yeah, by idle scheduling, I mean this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/177713 | 05:05 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 177713 in linux "2.6.24-2: Regression with idle cpu cycle handling" [Medium,Confirmed] | 05:06 |
| Michael74 | FINALLY | 05:22 |
| Michael74 | FOUND THE RIGHT CHANNLE | 05:23 |
| Michael74 | !! | 05:23 |
| Michael74 | alright what good is the daily build? | 05:23 |
| Michael74 | and why is it in DVD format | 05:23 |
| Michael74 | does it include Kubuntu and Ubuntu on the DVD | 05:23 |
| Michael74 | ? | 05:24 |
| * burner shrugs | 05:24 | |
| Michael74 | stats | 05:25 |
| Amaranth | Michael74: It's probably not much use to you | 05:28 |
| Amaranth | Michael74: you want alpha 3 | 05:28 |
| Michael74 | alright | 05:28 |
| Michael74 | also does anybody know about Linksys WUSB54GS v2 | 05:29 |
| Michael74 | ? | 05:29 |
| Amaranth | Michael74: I'm guessing you need ndiswrapper | 05:29 |
| Michael74 | so is there planned support for it? | 05:30 |
| Amaranth | uh | 05:30 |
| Michael74 | or am I stuck for good with a piece of crap | 05:30 |
| Michael74 | adpater | 05:30 |
| Amaranth | the latter | 05:30 |
| Amaranth | We don't do any work on it | 05:30 |
| Michael74 | what do yo mean? | 05:30 |
| Amaranth | Some random kernel guy might | 05:30 |
| Amaranth | Ubuntu does basically zero driver development | 05:31 |
| Michael74 | so you don't know if it is being support | 05:31 |
| Michael74 | I know the WUSB54G V4 is support and works but won't connect fully to networks (problem appeared since 7.04) | 05:31 |
| Michael74 | sucks how I can't find a single wireless card that works right with ubuntu | 05:32 |
| Michael74 | they all worked in 7.04 | 05:32 |
| Amaranth | Michael74: If it doesn't "just work" you probably want ndiswrapper | 05:32 |
| DanaG | If it must be USB.... | 05:33 |
| Amaranth | This is why you should get Intel everything :) | 05:33 |
| DanaG | I think Zydas has open-source stuff, but I've never used it to know how well it works. | 05:33 |
| Amaranth | belkin sells a USB adapter that is supported in linux and OS X | 05:33 |
| Michael74 | last time I used ndiswrapper it took me about 5 hours straight to figure out what in the world the Colsole was talking about | 05:34 |
| RAOF | Amaranth: Intel for the no-brainer-win. | 05:34 |
| Amaranth | well, they used to sell one, anyway | 05:34 |
| Michael74 | well Linksys's WERE | 05:34 |
| * DanaG has ipw3945 + e1000. Nice. But not so nice when the e1000 NIC dies and needs a reboot to fix it. | 05:34 | |
| Michael74 | in 7.04 | 05:34 |
| Michael74 | but something changed in 7.10+ that broke wireless for alot of cards | 05:34 |
| Amaranth | Michael74: The whole wireless stack in the kernel was replaced | 05:34 |
| Michael74 | I am told that it was the rt200 driver being used now | 05:34 |
| Michael74 | and the rt2500 needs to be put in | 05:34 |
| Amaranth | no, we're not going back to the old stuff | 05:35 |
| Amaranth | better to fix the new stuff | 05:35 |
| Michael74 | new? | 05:36 |
| Amaranth | the stuff used in 7.10+ | 05:37 |
| RAOF | DanaG: That'd be iwl3945, now that it works reliably :) | 05:37 |
| Amaranth | wow i'm laggy | 05:38 |
| Amaranth | 5s lag | 05:38 |
| DanaG | Oddly, iwl3945 still seems to have slightly shorter range, at least for seeing beacons. | 05:38 |
| DanaG | Then again, it might be hiding things that it can hear but can't 'shout' loud enough to get a message back to. | 05:38 |
| RAOF | I think I see that, too. | 05:39 |
| DanaG | Oh, and there's no radiotap support, but I used that as more of a curiosity than as a useful thing. | 05:39 |
| * RAOF doesn't even know what radiotap *is*. | 05:39 | |
| DanaG | Radiotap is nifty: sniff in promiscuous mode while still being associated to an access point. | 05:39 |
| Amaranth | damnit | 05:39 |
| RAOF | Just on the off-chance you want to...? | 05:40 |
| Amaranth | my connection is spiking hard | 05:40 |
| * RAOF stops trying to bruteforce Amaranth's system. | 05:40 | |
| Michael74 | #ubuntu | 05:57 |
| * DanaG goes to try kde4... | 05:58 | |
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| flamesage | So.. | 09:03 |
| flamesage | Anyone tried out the new ubuntu? | 09:03 |
| TheInfinity | flamesage: why this channel might exist? ;) | 09:04 |
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| elmargol | Hi I'm searching a kubuntu hardy livecd that has kde4 on it | 09:58 |
| elmargol | Did only find the gutsy remastered cd | 09:59 |
| Hobbsee | hardy version doesn't exist yet | 10:07 |
| aantipop | is there something missing in 2.6.24-4 ? | 10:13 |
| aantipop | linux-generic still points to -3 | 10:13 |
| Hobbsee | probably restricted/ubuntu modules | 10:14 |
| aantipop | all there | 10:15 |
| Hobbsee | then the metapackage hasn't bee updated yet, for whatever reason | 10:15 |
| * Hobbsee doesn't know if they've finiished pushing changes | 10:15 | |
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| kidalabama | hello | 11:02 |
| kidalabama | i have got problem | 11:02 |
| kidalabama | 8.04 | 11:02 |
| kidalabama | this is cant partial upgrade. | 11:02 |
| aantipop | my bluethooth dongle stopped working in hardy, it used to do in gutsy and feisty. ikm just not sure if i might have deactivated bluetooth somewhere..its still recoginzed in lsusb | 11:08 |
| Hobbsee | kidalabama: so, fix it via apt. | 11:08 |
| kidalabama | Hobbsee: how ? | 11:09 |
| Hobbsee | kidalabama: if you need to ask that, and that's all the information you're being given, then go back to gutsy. | 11:09 |
| Hobbsee | er, you're giving | 11:09 |
| kidalabama | Hobbsee: :) | 11:09 |
| Hobbsee | because hardy is not for you. | 11:09 |
| cwillu | kidalabama, oh boy | 11:10 |
| cwillu | kidalabama, what does it say exactly? | 11:10 |
| kidalabama | crash report | 11:10 |
| kidalabama | and partial upgrade problem | 11:11 |
| kidalabama | i am usin turkish version | 11:11 |
| cwillu | did you already complete an upgrade to hardy successfully at some point? | 11:11 |
| Hobbsee | cwillu: it's probably libflickrnet | 11:11 |
| cwillu | Hobbsee, I thought they resolved that | 11:11 |
| cwillu | at least, it stopped bugging me about it in the upgrade a day or two ago | 11:12 |
| kidalabama | apparmor problem | 11:12 |
| === Hobbsee changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Welcome to #ubuntu+1 "Home of the Hardy Heron" and various breakage | This channel is for Hardy discussion only | If you need help with dapper/edgy/feisty/gutsy join #ubuntu | If you are here to ask questions such as "what repositories do i use?", "is hardy going to break for me?", update without checking what is to be updated, or do not know how to resolve dependancies with apt, DO NOT RUN HARDY | ||
| * Hobbsee updates the topic | 11:13 | |
| Hobbsee | kidalabama: dude, we're not dentists. give the full error message that you get through apt, or go back to gutsy. | 11:14 |
| cwillu | kidalabama, is anything visibly broken? i.e., that stops you from doing something other than updating? | 11:14 |
| Hobbsee | kidalabama: if you don't have that level of basic competence, you shoudl not be running a development release, and shouldn't really expect people to step you through newbie-type things. | 11:15 |
| * cwillu thinks back on all his alpha updates | 11:15 | |
| kidalabama | okay | 11:16 |
| kidalabama | i apologize from you. | 11:16 |
| cwillu | I think dapper->edgy was the only one that worked flawlessly pre beta, and that was righht before it _went_ beta | 11:16 |
| * Hobbsee waits for more ifno than just "help, it's broken. it's an apparmour problem and something to do with upgrading" | 11:16 | |
| Hobbsee | cwillu: i suspect kidalabama was running hardy before, but perhpas not | 11:16 |
| cwillu | kidalabama, (this may break more things!) open a terminal, run sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude full-upgrade; and if you get errors out of it, paste the output of the whole mess into a pastebin, and then link us the url | 11:17 |
| cwillu | !pastebin | 11:17 |
| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 11:17 |
| cwillu | Hobbsee, that's what I'm thinking, but I like to hear it from them :p | 11:17 |
| * cwillu has dealt with too many people who had too much ego to even check if the cable that I knew was unplugged was actually unplugged when I asked them to check it | 11:18 | |
| cwillu | "it's not unplugged" 'yes it is' "no it isn't" 'yes it is' "oh shit, it was unplugged, who'd have thunk it?" '...' | 11:19 |
| Hobbsee | cwillu: sure, but this isn't #ubuntu. people are supposed to have a clue here. | 11:19 |
| cwillu | ya, I'm bad for that actually | 11:20 |
| cwillu | say, can you think of any way to tell what version of ubuntu was originally installed on a machine, before any sequence of dist-upgrades? | 11:21 |
| kidalabama | cwillu: thank you | 11:21 |
| cwillu | I'm trying to remember which version I started with on this machine | 11:21 |
| Hobbsee | cwillu: err...good question | 11:21 |
| Hobbsee | short of looking at dpkg.log...i'm not sure if that ever gets purged. | 11:22 |
| Hobbsee | you'd be looking for installer logs or something | 11:22 |
| cwillu | 2.6.15; is my earliest kernel installed | 11:22 |
| DarkMageZ | cwillu, dapper. | 11:22 |
| Hobbsee | ah,that works. | 11:22 |
| * Hobbsee was assuming old kernels got removed | 11:23 | |
| cwillu | yay for never purging kernels :p | 11:23 |
| cwillu | unless they did a purge at dapper | 11:23 |
| cwillu | but that sounds about right | 11:23 |
| cwillu | found a hoary machine a couple months ago, quite the blast from the past | 11:23 |
| DarkMageZ | hoary was when i filed my first bug report | 11:24 |
| cwillu | :) | 11:24 |
| * Hobbsee found an edgy laptop | 11:24 | |
| cwillu | anybody ever run beatrix? | 11:25 |
| IdleOne | what is up with libflickrnet not configuring? | 12:11 |
| Hobbsee | should be fixed in the latest uploads | 12:12 |
| IdleOne | updating now . see what happens | 12:18 |
| IdleOne | now I have mono-gac | 12:32 |
| IdleOne | libflickrnet2.1.5-cil | 12:32 |
| IdleOne | mono-runtime | 12:32 |
| IdleOne | libmono2.0-cil | 12:32 |
| IdleOne | libmono1.0-cil | 12:32 |
| IdleOne | that wont configure | 12:32 |
| IdleOne | sorry bout the paste | 12:32 |
| IdleOne | here is the output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52007/ | 12:35 |
| geser | IdleOne: it's a known problem (see bug #182130) | 12:45 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 182130 in libflickrnet "package libflickrnet2.1.5-cil 25277-5 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182130 | 12:45 |
| stephank | Oooh, that one. Was f-spot an ubuntu-desktop dependency at some point? Because I simply uninstalled it and that library. :o | 12:47 |
| IdleOne | geser: what about the other 4 packages? | 13:14 |
| IdleOne | or are they all depends of each other | 13:14 |
| IdleOne | because it is the first time I have an issue with them | 13:15 |
| _MMA_ | Does anyone have logon/out sounds working from a clean Hardy install? | 13:36 |
| XiXaQ | can I ask you people to check something for me? There is a bug in evolution that most users experience. Actually, the only one I know who doesn't experience it, is running hardy, but in my hardy, I have the problem. Create a memo in evolution and select it from the memo list so you can see the content in the section below. Notice if it disappears in 1 minute or less. | 13:49 |
| XiXaQ | that bug is driving me insane, and since I do appreciate my sanity, I'd very much like to find the cause of that bug to help someone fix it. | 13:51 |
| mrsno | XiXaQ im trying now, but is that the same as bug 182805 ? | 14:02 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 182805 in evolution "Memo previews are blanked every minute" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182805 | 14:02 |
| XiXaQ | yes. I reported that. | 14:02 |
| mrsno | oic :) | 14:02 |
| XiXaQ | I'm not kidding when I say it's driving me nuts. It's like reading a newspaper outside on a stormy day :) | 14:03 |
| mrsno | lets see, just updating the latest alpha at the mo | 14:04 |
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| mooper | whats the kubuntu dev? | 14:20 |
| mrsno | hmm my hardy install has fallen over | 14:20 |
| mrsno | ill try your steps in a while XiXaQ :) after i re-install /me kicks self for not taking a snapshot yesterday | 14:22 |
| XiXaQ | mrsno, I did that twice this morning. :) | 14:22 |
| XiXaQ | kicked myself, that is. | 14:22 |
| mrsno | hehe :) | 14:23 |
| mrsno | mooper maybe #kubuntu-devel | 14:23 |
| mrsno | XiXaQ finally done :) i added a new memo, left clicked it and watching it now on the preview underneath | 15:16 |
| mrsno | hasn't dissapeared (yet) | 15:16 |
| mrsno | ok now it dissapears, after less than a minute | 15:16 |
| mrsno | seems to be 30 seconds | 15:17 |
| XiXaQ | :( | 15:19 |
| XiXaQ | I think you'll find that it's a precise second. | 15:19 |
| XiXaQ | I wish I could find out what happens in that moment. | 15:19 |
| mrsno | so would this be more a wishlist bug XiXaQ ? as you would like the preview to stay active | 15:20 |
| XiXaQ | I don't think it's designed that way. Why would it be? | 15:21 |
| XiXaQ | for me, the memo view is severely limited by that bug, since I often write pretty long memos. | 15:22 |
| mrsno | im not an evolution user, but i wonder is that an actual bug, as in should it be doing something else instead of preview going away after 30seconds-1minute | 15:26 |
| mrsno | previewing a mail messages does stay previewed until you click away though | 15:28 |
| XiXaQ | mrsno, yes. So does everything else. | 15:33 |
| mrsno | so its only the memo that the preview goes away in hmm | 15:34 |
| XiXaQ | mrsno, it's not a delay. It's a spesific second once every minute,. | 15:34 |
| XiXaQ | that means, if you're unlucky, you only have one second to read it. | 15:34 |
| mrsno | opening the memo at least it stays open, im not sure XiXaQ why it works different to mail previews though | 15:35 |
| XiXaQ | yes, that only happens in memo view. It stays open between 1-59 seconds, depending on when you opened the memo. | 15:37 |
| dholbach | Packaging 101 Session in #ubuntu-classroom in 12 minutes | 15:47 |
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| monkey89 | how do i prevent my desktop icons for hard drive volumes from showing the size of the volume | 17:17 |
| danbhfive | are there gnome-terminal developers here? | 18:07 |
| danbhfive | or, where could I find one? | 18:07 |
| pvandewyngaerde | how do i remove apache2 ? | 18:17 |
| Pici | pvandewyngaerde: sudo aptitude remove apache2-common and or apache2 iirc. | 18:19 |
| pvandewyngaerde | i did this, but afterwards i still can start apache2 | 18:21 |
| pvandewyngaerde | apt-get --purge remove apache* did the trick | 18:24 |
| pvandewyngaerde | apache2-mpm-prefork* apache2-utils* apache2.2-common* libapache2-mod-php5* | 18:24 |
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| ToHellWithGA | work firewall doesn't like me much | 18:56 |
| ToHellWithGA | brb | 18:57 |
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| ToHellWithGA | ping | 19:37 |
| tifine | hello everybody | 19:39 |
| tifine | i am using ubuntu 7.10 and want to upgrade to ubuntu8.04 can anybody guide me please ? is hardy is stable ? | 19:39 |
| Pici | see topic, and no. | 19:40 |
| ToHellWithGA | i would not try dist-upgrading, tifine | 19:40 |
| tifine | why ? | 19:41 |
| ToHellWithGA | even clean installs are a little buggy | 19:41 |
| Pici | tifine: by definition an alpha is not stable. | 19:41 |
| tifine | okie | 19:41 |
| tifine | so it means no point of installing it | 19:41 |
| ToHellWithGA | i hosed my gutsy install *after* downloading the hardy install disc when i tried dist-upgrading | 19:42 |
| ToHellWithGA | when things are as unsteady as they are, dist-upgrading is not a good idea yet | 19:43 |
| tifine | okie | 19:47 |
| tifine | thnxs 4 helping me | 19:47 |
| ToHellWithGA | if you want help after installing hardy, tifine, please come back | 19:48 |
| ToHellWithGA | i'd recommend installing it as another OS rather than replacing your current (probably working) ubuntu | 19:49 |
| === burne1 is now known as burner | ||
| slanning | hello - at some point a few weeks ago an annoying flashing thing related to the tracker (which I hate) started always appearing in my gnome panel - I tell it to quit every time I login, but how do I get it to go away forever? | 20:02 |
| slanning | I turned off the "Indexing Options" in the preferences, tried to disable the tracker as much as possible | 20:03 |
| slanning | I guess it's relatively minor today, though - since a handful of apps reported that they've crashed, cruelly asking me if I'd like to report the problem only to eventually not allow me to report anything without an account | 20:05 |
| slanning | :D | 20:05 |
| ToHellWithGA | get an account | 20:06 |
| ToHellWithGA | www.launchpad.net | 20:06 |
| ToHellWithGA | you can help :) | 20:06 |
| slanning | I won't register on principle - requiring people to register for an account in order to report bugs is absurd, and I prefer whining uselessly about it | 20:07 |
| selckin | resolving them often requires 2 way communication, waste of time if you don't follow up on it | 20:10 |
| selckin | hence registering | 20:11 |
| ToHellWithGA | when you register and submit a bug you receive email about changes to the bug and/or requests for more information | 20:12 |
| ToHellWithGA | it's the difference between user and community member, the choice is yours | 20:13 |
| === bigon is now known as bigon` | ||
| === bigon` is now known as bigon | ||
| askand | Is the batterylife improved in hardy? | 20:26 |
| DanaG | Actually, battery life reporting is screwed up in hardy. | 20:27 |
| DanaG | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/177570 | 20:30 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 177570 in hal "[hardy] two batteries display when left clicking on g-p-m" [Medium,Confirmed] | 20:30 |
| === Dana1 is now known as DanaG | ||
| Assid | heya | 20:53 |
| Assid | im thinking of trying out hardy.. i dont mind an occassional break here and there to try and help .. but i really would like to have a system that works | 20:57 |
| Assid | question is .. should i | 20:58 |
| danbhfive | im guessing no | 21:03 |
| danbhfive | i think that when they say "break", they mean you system doesn't boot anymore, and you have to reinstall | 21:04 |
| danbhfive | *your | 21:04 |
| Assid | hrmm damn | 21:05 |
| Assid | will wait for beta then | 21:06 |
| antdedyet | how do I disable the pulseaudio server in ubuntu+1? | 21:12 |
| antdedyet | did I ask a hard question? :) | 21:21 |
| Dislo | hey guys i was wondering if i install 8.04 lts now will i be able to update it to the current version with all the right pacakages or is it going to be a rediculus hassle | 22:02 |
| Dislo | wait read the topic nevermind | 22:03 |
| === marko-_-_ is now known as marko-_- | ||
| ompaul | Hi, can someone do this in hardy and let me know what happens: /etc/modprobe.d$ grep fb * | wc | 23:37 |
| crimsun | 25 50 1397 | 23:38 |
| ompaul | crimsun, thanks for that | 23:39 |
| * ompaul goes off to be depressed ;-) | 23:39 | |
| thoreauputic | so. is the framebuffer deprecated, hmm ??? | 23:39 |
| ompaul | looks like it - or forced deprecation | 23:39 |
| * thoreauputic waits for the kernel devs to back-pedal furiously... | 23:40 | |
| ompaul | neva | 23:40 |
| crimsun | ugh, I broke suspend-to-ram with CONFIG_VMSPLIT_2G_OPT=y | 23:43 |
| crimsun | oh well, I'll revert that next go-round. Not like I need suspend-to-* anyhow. | 23:43 |
| ompaul | crimsun, :-) it is the reversion that counts | 23:44 |
| crimsun | I wonder if we're mounting non-ext[23] with UTF-8 as applicable. Hmm. | 23:48 |
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