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foxbuntunope00:00
solarbabybitlbee is the best open source messenger architecture i've ever seen00:00
foxbuntuhave to check that out00:01
solarbabyyeah if you need help configuring it with irssi..  I have all the configs worked out very nicely00:01
solarbabyI firmly believe that irc and all messengers are best handled in screen..  and I run a little 10 watt server that does all my basic linux tasks for me00:02
tgm4883_laptopanyone ir blasting with a pvr-150?00:25
rhpot1991_laptoptgm4883_laptop: no luck yet huh?00:31
tgm4883_laptopnope00:32
tgm4883_laptopi tried a fresh install on a seperate HD00:32
tgm4883_laptopI keep getting "unknown remote "blaster""00:32
tgm4883_laptophmm00:33
superm1tgm4883_laptop, can you pastebin your lircd.conf?00:35
superm1your /etc/lirc/lircd.conf that is00:35
tgm4883_laptopyes sec00:35
tgm4883_laptophttp://pastebin.com/m6032518400:37
tgm4883_laptopI also just noticed that if I edit the hardware.conf and replace lirc_i2c with lirc_pvr150, then irw no longer will see my remote button presses00:38
tgm4883_laptopalso, i just realized that in the error above, it is Blaster00:39
tgm4883_laptopnotice the capital B00:39
tgm4883_laptopi had also tried lower case which didn't work either00:39
tgm4883_laptopthe silence as everyone looks over my issue is very reissuring00:45
Sebulba02hello, I'm having a strange issue with the latest stable release of mythbuntu.  When I'm watching recordings, the playback will hang up at random unless there is some kind of network activity (like a ping).  Keyboard/remote activity seem to be processed captured, but are not updated until a ping or something comes through.  Anyone ever heard anything like this and/or know how to start diagnosing it?00:45
rhpot1991_laptopfreaking reruns00:47
Sebulba02I second that.00:48
Sebulba02Oh, I forgot to say.  It's a dedicated FE only, the BE is a network server and the movies are mounted over NFS.00:50
AboveBrewhello00:53
AboveBrewI've got mythbuntu installed with a "STB TV PCI FM, Gateway P/N 6000704 (bt878)", whats the easiest way to make sure the card is working?00:53
Sebulba02AboveBrew: I usually try to record a random 5 minute clip when I need to make sure everything is working.00:56
AboveBrewSebulba02: I'm not sure if the card is even working00:57
AboveBrewSebulba02: I just have an antenna hooked into it...not sure how to see live TV00:58
Sebulba02If you're using the classic menu, goto "Watch TV" -> Live TV or something like that00:58
Sebulba02Sorry, it's "TV" -> "Watch TV"00:59
AboveBrewI'm at the Mythbuntu setup "General, capture cards, video sources, input connections, channel editor" nothing that says live tv00:59
Sebulba02Oh, my bad, when you said installed I thought you had everything configured00:59
AboveBrewChannel Frequency, I have set up as us-bcast01:00
Sebulba02Sounds right01:01
AboveBrewCapture Cards, I see: V4L : /dev/video001:01
AboveBrewDefault Input: Television01:01
AboveBrewProbed Info: BT848 video ( *** UNKNOWN/GENER [bttv]01:02
Sebulba02Sounds like you're in mythtv-setup01:02
Sebulba02or not, I don't recall seeing what you're seeing when I set mine up01:03
Sebulba02except on my backend, which is plain ubuntu01:03
AboveBrewI'm using a backend/front end combo01:04
AboveBrew1. This is just a test01:04
AboveBrew2. I'd like to prove the card works01:04
AboveBrewI thought there would be some low level way to tell the card is actually working01:04
AboveBrewIt doesn't find anything when I scan for channels01:05
Sebulba02You MIGHT be able to cat /dev/video0 > /some/output/file.avi01:05
Sebulba02then stop it after a few secs01:05
Sebulba02see if anything comes out01:05
Sebulba02but if you can't scan for channels01:05
Sebulba02I'd assume it's not working properly01:06
AboveBrewThats what I would think too01:06
Sebulba02(but that's just me)01:06
AboveBrewthis is a very old card, but its on the supported list01:06
Sebulba02does `dmesg` say anything about the card?01:06
AboveBrewwhere is dmesg01:07
Sebulba02dmesg is a command line command01:07
Sebulba02and in /var/log/dmesgs01:07
Sebulba02 /var/log/dmesg *01:08
Sebulba02try something like `dmesg | grep video`01:08
AboveBrewyeah i see some stuff there01:08
Sebulba02anything about your card though?01:09
AboveBrewbttv: Bt8xx card found (0)01:09
Sebulba02is there anything after that?01:09
AboveBrewi know that card has a bt8 chip on it01:09
AboveBrewhmm bunch of errors in there though01:10
AboveBrewi'll see if i can output this file and give it to a hardware guru in here01:10
AboveBrewDaviey: Remember me? :)01:20
superm1tgm4883_laptop, sorry i was afk01:34
superm1yeah you caught the Blaster vs blaster issue01:34
superm1good01:34
superm1now it doesn't recognize keypresses though ?01:34
tgm4883_laptopnope01:34
tgm4883_laptopnot when i put in lirc_pvr15001:34
superm1does it blast?01:34
tgm4883_laptopsuperm1, nope01:37
superm1well that's not very useful01:37
superm1how about dmesg?01:37
superm1talk about it?01:37
tgm4883_laptopnot very useful at all01:37
tgm4883_laptopnothing bad01:38
tgm4883_laptopthomas@myrtle:~$ dmesg | grep pvr15001:38
tgm4883_laptop[   42.618654] lirc_pvr150: chip found with RX and TX01:38
tgm4883_laptop[   42.636920] lirc_pvr150: firmware of size 302355 loaded01:38
tgm4883_laptop[   42.637152] lirc_pvr150: 743 codesets loaded01:38
tgm4883_laptop[   42.653369] lirc_pvr150: Hauppauge PVR-150 IR blaster: firmware version 1.3.001:38
tgm4883_laptopi'd be ok with it not getting the key presses, but it has to blast01:39
superm1sounds to me like it should be working01:39
tgm4883_laptopthats what I thought01:39
superm1even though it works with lirc_i2c, have you tried jiggling the cable a wee bit?01:39
superm1in case its more finicky with pvr15001:40
tgm4883_laptopi haven't, although01:40
tgm4883_laptopheres the error i get01:40
tgm4883_laptopthomas@myrtle:~$ irsend SEND_ONCE Blaster Power01:40
tgm4883_laptopirsend: command failed: SEND_ONCE Blaster Power01:40
tgm4883_laptopirsend: unknown remote: "Blaster"01:40
tgm4883_laptopwhich doesn't seem to be a hardware issue01:40
* superm1 looks at the pastebin again01:42
rhpot1991_laptopis there any way to run mythtv-setup (I need to get some screenshots) without stopping the backend?01:43
superm1yes there is01:43
superm1but some stuff might not work right01:43
superm1mythtv-setup.real01:43
rhpot1991_laptopsome stuff, in mythtv-setup?01:43
superm1yeah01:43
rhpot1991_laptopthats fine, as long as I'm not gonna bust my recording01:43
superm1tgm4883_laptop, try blowing away the rest of the lircd.conf01:44
superm1other than the remote for the blaster01:44
tgm4883_laptopok01:44
tgm4883_laptopsuperm1, nope, still unknown remote01:51
superm1well that's just crazy.01:51
tgm4883_laptopi know01:52
tgm4883_laptopwould selecting the wrong remote in MCC make any difference?01:54
superm1are you on hardy?01:55
superm1if so yes.01:55
superm1otherwise no01:55
tgm4883_laptopgutsy01:55
superm1did you select it *after* modifying your lircd.conf?01:56
superm1because that blows away the old settings01:56
tgm4883_laptopno01:56
tgm4883_laptopi selected it during install01:56
superm1that won't matter then.01:56
superm1try launching lircd -d01:57
superm1instead of via init script01:57
superm1r01:57
superm1lircd -n01:57
superm1and you can try to debug it that way01:57
superm1see what it has to say while it parses the remote01:57
tgm4883_laptoplircd -d?01:57
superm1-n01:57
tgm4883_laptopsudo?01:57
superm1i don't think it matters01:58
superm1check the permissions on /dev/lirc0 and /dev/lircd01:58
superm1you'll see if you need to01:58
tgm4883_laptopwell i get permission denied01:58
tgm4883_laptopso01:58
tgm4883_laptopi guess so01:58
tgm4883_laptopowned by root01:59
tgm4883_laptophmm02:00
tgm4883_laptoplircd-0.8.2[6674]: "2155675658": must be a valid (lirc_t) number02:00
superm1so there you go.?02:00
superm1try putting it on the same line02:00
superm1as name Power02:00
tgm4883_laptopheh02:00
tgm4883_laptoplircd-0.8.2[6677]: garbage after 'name' token in line 12 ignored02:00
superm1hm02:01
superm1well google away then :)02:01
superm1i swear i saw something about this02:01
superm1on either the forums02:01
superm1or on the lirc-list mailing list02:01
superm1with that same error02:01
superm1about lirc_t numbers02:01
tgm4883_laptoparg02:04
tgm4883_laptopit's not real hard evidence02:04
tgm4883_laptopbut it may be a 64-bit problem02:04
tgm4883_laptopwell, actually it's a lirc problem with it not working well with 64-bit02:05
rhpot1991_laptopthis screenshow howto lies02:05
rhpot1991_laptopdo you attach files at some point other than when you are first making the entry?02:06
superm1yeah02:08
superm1you can do it later02:08
tgm4883_laptophttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=412276502:08
tgm4883_laptopsuperm1, see the last post there02:08
superm1tgm4883_laptop, yeah i knew i wasn't crazy02:09
superm1and that i saw it somewhere02:09
superm1so ditch the 64 bit ?02:09
tgm4883_laptop:(02:09
tgm4883_laptopfor now perhaps02:10
tgm4883_laptopjust on the backend though02:10
tgm4883_laptopsuperm1, is it possible to grab the DB from my old harddrive that isn't in the box anymore?  I'd like to keep my recorded programs, season pass, etc02:11
tgm4883_laptopat least a few tables02:11
superm1yeah02:11
tgm4883_laptopk02:11
rhpot1991_laptopyou can prob boot the live cd or knoppix or something to dump the db02:11
tgm4883_laptopi'll bug you later about that, i have to install 32-bit ubuntu now then install mythbuntu02:11
superm1just install 33 bit mythbuntu?02:11
superm1*3202:12
tgm4883_laptoprhpot1991_laptop, the hard drive isn't even in the system anymore.  If I put the hard drive in, i would just boot that up ;)02:12
tgm4883_laptopi don't have a mythbuntu disk right now :(02:12
rhpot1991_laptopwell you can toss it into anything if you were booting a live cd02:12
tgm4883_laptopand my internet isn't as fast as it use to be :(02:12
tgm4883_laptoponly 1.5 now02:12
tgm4883_laptopf this is ridiculas.  Do you know how long it takes to edit out the channels you don't get in schedules direct with directv?02:13
superm1tgm4883_laptop, dude, just dump your table ow?02:14
superm1now02:14
superm1and then import it back in after you install02:14
tgm4883_laptopyea, i'll throw it back in real quick, but that /var/lib format thing sucks02:15
tgm4883_laptoprhpot1991_laptop, were you able to watch live tv via xbmc mythtv plugin?02:17
rhpot1991_laptoptgm4883_laptop: I read some about how to do it, didn't actually mess with it though02:18
tgm4883_laptopyou can watch recordings though?02:19
rhpot1991_laptopya my recordings worked02:19
rhpot1991_laptoplive tv is supposed to work too02:19
rhpot1991_laptopI keep jumping from project to project without finishing any02:19
rhpot1991_laptopI'll get this wiki half way done tonight and never touch it again02:20
superm1well this can be a time for change02:26
superm1together we can prevail02:26
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slestaki have added new recodings to my myth's filesystem, as well as music, but my frontend is not seeing it.  i have restarted both front and backend.  is there some "check for changes" function i need to run to update?02:57
slestaki looked at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MythMusic and it describes a "Scan for New Music" feature that I do not have.03:20
BrionSEvening.04:00
BrionSI have a strange problem and I don't know if it's hardware or software related.04:01
superm1i'd say it's hardware related.04:01
BrionSI have recently upgraded to gigabit ethernet in my home LAN and everything was running smoothly to my 10/100 Mbps Mythbuntu frontend04:01
BrionS:)04:01
superm1but that's without knowing anything :)04:01
BrionSUpgraded the machine to a Foxconn mobo with a Marvell gigabit ethernet on-board LAN04:02
BrionSmy videos are shared over NFS04:02
BrionSpreviously streaming was fine04:02
BrionSnow it actually skips forward04:02
BrionSas if getting data too rapidly04:02
BrionSso I plugged in an old Linksys 10/100 card I had04:02
BrionSbut that card does it too04:03
BrionSboth audio and video are affected04:03
superm1well that's weird indeed04:03
BrionSit's driving me nuts04:03
superm1change your nfs mount options i'd say to start04:03
superm1does myth do it too?04:03
BrionScurrently they're: auto,hard,intr,rw04:03
BrionSI have 2 other frontends (backend is autonomous) and neither frontend exhibits this problem04:04
BrionSI also restarted the backend just to be sure04:04
BrionSyes, mythTV does it for my capture card04:04
BrionSexcept that one stutters like it's not getting enough data04:04
BrionSI've never seen this before04:04
superm1well that's very bizarre04:04
BrionSand only on this box which is otherwise rock solid04:04
superm1you know you might consider booting a live mythbuntu disk04:04
superm1and attempting the live frontend04:04
BrionSI did04:04
superm1you can rule out any software issues there04:05
superm1same thing?04:05
BrionSI think because of the video type (AVI) and the NFS I couldn't play it through Mplayer04:05
BrionSbut through VLC it played fine (though the audio didn't come through -- AC52)04:05
BrionSso I did a fresh re-install04:05
BrionSthinking maybe this frontend was just fubar04:05
BrionSbut after the reinstall same deal04:05
BrionS:'(04:05
superm1frequency scaling perhaps?04:06
BrionSthe only "customization" I have on this box is the NFS mounts and enabling the SPDIF output in ALSA04:06
superm1does the new board support it whereas the old one didn't?04:06
BrionSnot familiar with that04:06
BrionShow would i check/change?04:06
superm1its been a while since i've toyed with freq scaling, you'll have to google a bit for it04:07
superm1there is a way to turn on and off the scaling if your cpu supports it04:07
superm1within /sys or /proc (forget which)04:07
BrionSwhat would frequency scaling offer me? (or what problems would it cause generally speaking?)04:07
superm1well it changes the cpu speed based on load04:08
superm1to save power/heat usually04:08
BrionSah yes04:09
BrionSthis new machine is dual core compared to a single core before04:09
BrionSodd that the CPU would go into a power save mode while streaming video and audio04:09
BrionSsounds like I'd want to disable frequency scaling to test04:10
BrionS(or check to see if it's enabled first I suppose)04:10
superm1yeah04:16
BrionSany ideas if that doesn't work?04:26
BrionSjust trying to queue up a few solutions04:26
BrionS:)04:26
BrionSI don't think my processor has CPU frequency scaling actually04:32
BrionSit's a Pentium D04:32
BrionSand I don't see the p4_clockmod module loaded04:32
BrionSnor acpi_cpufreq04:33
BrionSso I'm going to go with that's not the problem :(04:33
BrionSPentium D is an old dual-core chip so it probably came out before frequency scaling was the norm04:34
teleeshould i look for a cache size of 16 or 8 mb.  is there really a difference?05:23
teleewhen speaking of a HD05:23
superm1!ipod | rhpot1991_laptop05:41
uboturhpot1991_laptop: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod05:41
rhpot1991_laptopya that doesn't fit05:42
superm1!psp | rhpot1991_laptop05:42
uboturhpot1991_laptop: For information on using the PlayStation Portable with Ubuntu, please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PSP05:42
superm1ha fancy that05:42
AquahallicEvenin' folks05:43
Aquahallicanyone here using VNC with mythbuntu??05:44
superm1sure05:45
Aquahallichave you had a problem with VNC viewer refreshing?05:45
bruce_Can someone answer some generic (non-ubuntu oriented) mythtv questions on the proper /dev/dvb/adapter0 entry for a 'Air2PC/AirStar 2 ATSC 1st generation' card? It registers and initializes on boot with no errors (finally!), but won't seem to "open" in mythtv-setup. I have tried all of the entries in /dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0,  dvr0,  frontend0 & net0. No luck. Is this a permission problem? If...05:46
bruce_...so, how do I correct it?05:46
superm1do you have the opengl theme painter turned on?05:46
superm1bruce_, you've made sure that the backend isn't running?05:46
superm1before starting mythtv-setup05:46
AquahallicI have my laptop that I have viewer on... then I setup VNC on my mythbuntu frontend.... when I try to control the frontend.. I can see my movements on the tv (frontend) but they don't reflect on the viewer unless I do a manual refresh05:46
Aquahallicyou seen this?05:46
superm1Aquahallic, yes, but answer my question05:47
superm1regarding the opengl theme painter05:47
Aquahallicoh... yes I do05:47
superm1that's the issue05:47
superm1because opengl can't natively be shown by most VNC implementations05:47
superm1its a bit annoying (of course)05:47
Aquahallicis there a workaround?05:47
superm1you can hit refresh in your vnc viewer05:47
Aquahallicor do I have to revert back to qt as my painter?05:47
bruce_Hmm. on the opengl, I think so,  and as far as the backend running, I don't think so,    the only thing I've tried to do so far is run setup05:47
rhpot1991_laptopyou can try nx and see how it behaves in there05:48
superm1or revert to qt :)05:48
Aquahallicnx?05:48
superm1bruce_, is this on mythbuntu?05:48
superm1or ubuntu?05:48
rhpot1991_laptopI think I still use qt on my boxes05:48
superm1or somewhere else?05:48
bruce_no,  I'm running Slackware 12.005:48
Aquahallicis that another viewer client for VNC?05:48
bruce_I compiled it from scatch on my system05:49
superm1bruce_, well make sure that you don't have the backend running (ubuntu/mythbuntu automatically stop it for you, but normal mythtv installs dont)05:49
superm1Aquahallic, it won't change with the viewer05:49
bruce_just a sec.05:49
Aquahallick05:49
Aquahallicguess I'll revert back to qt05:50
superm1Aquahallic, it would be an issue on the server end (05:50
superm1which is why rhpot1991_laptop was recommending looking into NX05:50
superm1but its probably more trouble than you are bargaining for05:50
Aquahallicyeah... I don't really think you lose much with qt vs. opengl do you?05:50
superm1just the transitions05:50
superm1in menus05:50
superm1otherwise identical05:51
Aquahallicyeah...05:51
Aquahallicno biggie05:51
Aquahallic:)05:51
Aquahallicnever on the menus long enough anyways05:51
Aquahallic:)05:51
superm1you've gotta restart mythfrontend after you change it05:51
Aquahallicyeah05:51
Aquahallicanother question.....05:51
bruce_nope, no backend running05:51
AquahallicI used to run knoppmyth.... on the latest build I was running... there was an issue with viewing livetv and then hitting the guide button.....05:52
Aquahallicit'd lockup the frontend HARD05:52
AquahallicI did it on this mythbuntu install the other night for the first time.... is that a know issue on mythbuntu also?05:52
superm1bruce_, okay then checkout dmesg, and see if there are any requests for firmware (if i remember correctly, there is a piece of firmware needed on the first gen air2pc cards)05:53
superm1Aquahallic, there are issues with the older nvidia drivers and xvmc and similar things happening05:53
superm1you hopefully shouldn't be seeing it in mythbuntu since all the versions of things are fairly modenr05:53
superm1modern even05:54
Aquahallicyeah.. I'm having to use nvidia legacy drivers05:54
Aquahallicso... that's prolly what's doing it... my g'friend likes to go into the guide from viewing livetv05:55
bruce_yeah, I got that taken care of05:56
AquahallicI couldn't get her to stop and it kept locking up my frontend... so I had to change the guide button on my remote to just exit her out if she hits it.....lol05:56
rhpot1991_laptopsuperm1: I dunno, nx performs much much better than vnc IMO05:56
superm1haha Aquahallic05:56
Aquahallicit is a nice feature though....05:56
superm1Aquahallic, well if you don't necessarily need xvmc (and that is the cause), you can try to turn that off05:57
Aquahallicwish it was useable with my legacy drivers05:57
bruce_It inializes good.. I've seen all the error messages at this point, and I've gotten them all to go away05:57
Aquahallicwhere exactly is xvmc05:57
AquahallicI don't think I even have it on.. unless it's default on05:57
Aquahallicis that the Xv picture controls under General Playback setup?05:59
bruce_superm1, It inializes good.. I've seen all the error messages at this point, and I've gotten them all to go away06:07
tgm4883_laptopanyone use a channel change script?06:13
TazgodXtgm4883_laptop you ever get that MRE to work?06:18
tgm4883_laptopnope, although i haven't really tried since06:19
TazgodXlol06:19
tgm4883_laptopnow that i think about it i never did get an email back from the author06:19
TazgodXlol06:19
tgm4883_laptopdo you use a channel change script?06:19
TazgodXdid you get mythstreamtv to work? the one that streams over the net?06:19
TazgodXno06:19
tgm4883_laptopnope, haven't looked at that either06:20
TazgodXdamn i thought maybe in the 2 months ive been gone, some improvements have been made :)06:21
rhpot1991TazgodX: you see my message, or can you not accept pm's?06:22
TazgodXi see it06:23
TazgodXi responded06:23
rhpot1991hmm strange, I never got it06:23
TazgodXlol06:23
rhpot1991wonder if it sent it to my laptop instead or something06:23
rhpot1991so, was that you, or am I mistaken?06:23
TazgodXprobably not me06:23
rhpot1991alright06:23
TazgodXi never used knoppmyth more than 5 minutes, and that was just to test it06:24
TazgodXbut i have complained about album art and iphone on linux, but doubt it was in here06:24
rhpot1991you can prob use atomicparsley to tag the albums06:24
TazgodXwell i figured out why i can't send a private message06:27
TazgodXlol06:27
rhpot1991didn't register?06:27
TazgodXdidn't identify06:27
TazgodXlol06:28
TazgodXmy linux install auto recognizes06:28
TazgodXi dont even know why im on windows right now06:28
Aquahallicanyone know if mythburn has been packaged for mythbunutu??06:42
rhpot1991I thought mythburn no longer existed cause mytharchive did its job06:48
tgm4883_laptopAquahallic, as rhpot1991 said, mythburn has been replaced by mytharchive06:57
sebrockIs mythbuntu planning on doing something like the automatic remote installer for different VFD/LCD displays?13:07
Davieyer, yes13:08
Davieybut lack of VFD/LCD's with the dev's is a problem13:08
DavieyI have a VFD, but requires a custom LCDproc, so not really suitable13:09
Davieysebrock: but hey, if you want to buy the dev's one - you'll get results quicker :)13:09
sebrockLCDproc inlcudes most OEM displays these days13:19
sebrockDaviey: what do you mean by "er, yes"? Whas this so obvious?13:21
Davieyno13:26
Daviey"erm, yes" .. better13:26
Daviey?13:26
sebrock:)'14:54
v0lksmanhey all....quick question for yah....if I install mythbuntu does it come with all the NA patches or do I have to recompile if I need those?15:22
v0lksmananyone awake yet?16:32
tgm4883what patches?16:38
v0lksmanthe North American Provider patches....not really 100% sure what it is for but in my reading they always say it's necessary if you are going to use DVB in NA with Myth16:40
tgm4883what card?16:42
famiconhey i got an annoying problem16:42
famiconmy HDMI out works in the bios etc16:43
v0lksmanHauppagge DVB-S16:43
famiconbut not when the linux framebuffer inititalized16:43
v0lksmanNova I believe16:43
tgm4883famicon, proper driver support?16:43
famicontgm4883 yeah true16:43
famiconbuuuut16:43
tgm4883v0lksman, are you trying to tune a satellite?16:43
famiconthen why does it work in the bios and not when linux starts16:44
v0lksmanmy HDMI works but only if the TV is on during boot...if I boot first and then turn on the screen it no workies...16:44
famiconyeah16:44
famiconmine only works UNTILL it boots16:44
v0lksmantgm4883:  yeah...16:44
tgm4883famicon, rudimentary driver support in bios16:44
famiconthen why isnt it inlinux16:44
tgm4883famicon, these are all just guesses16:45
tgm4883famicon, what card?16:45
famiconvia cx700M216:45
famiconi think16:45
famiconunichrome pro II16:45
tgm4883v0lksman, afaik, not going to happen.  You won't be able to unscramble the signal16:45
famiconv0lksman do you have a CI module16:45
tgm4883famicon, hmm, i seem to remember reading something about the unicrome stuff16:45
famicontgm4883 me too16:46
famiconbut no luck16:46
famicon;_;16:46
tgm4883:( DaveMorris is not around16:46
v0lksmanI'm doing it right now and the patches came from the myth svn, which is why I ask....I run a seperate program to decode the signal but myth still needs to be patched to accept that or something...16:46
tgm4883ah16:46
v0lksmanCI module?16:46
tgm4883well I believe it should work.  I think people like Daviey and laga use DVB-S16:47
tgm4883or maybe it was DVB-T16:47
v0lksmanaight...I'm gonna assume the patches are there....I can't see why they wouldn't be.... ;)16:47
tgm4883or DVB-C16:47
famiconv0lksman yeah its a Common interface + Conditional Access Module16:47
tgm4883too many DVB-X things16:47
v0lksmanfamicon:  are we talking about HDMI connectors or DVB patching?  hahaha16:48
directhex|bspyou're talking about sasc-ng16:48
directhex|bspi.e. softcam16:48
v0lksmanyessum16:48
directhex|bspand no, mythtv does not and will never support it16:48
directhex|bspespecially not in ubuntu16:48
v0lksmanwhich I know just about enough to be dangerous...16:48
v0lksmanwell myth has patches to allow sasc to work though16:49
directhex|bspno, sasc has patches to allow mythtv to work16:49
v0lksmanrelleh?  shit I thought it was the other way around....16:49
v0lksmanbeen a year or since I last built my box.16:49
directhex|bspmythtv as a project does not just not include support, it is actively discouraged16:50
directhex|bspas in "by now you'd have been kickbanned from #mythtv-users"16:50
tgm4883which will happen here too16:50
v0lksmanrelleh?  damn...sorry if I'm pissing people off....16:50
directhex|bspsasc-ng has almost zero non-infringing use16:50
directhex|bspit's for people to pirate encrypted tv16:51
v0lksmanyeah I figured....but I do pay for my service....I just like being able to use my mythbox to record without having an external tuner16:51
tgm4883on the flip side, there is a nice new hauppauge card announced which encodes HD OTF16:51
pdragonwhat's that?16:53
v0lksmanso I'll re-phrase my question then:  Does mythbuntu have a mythtv-source package that can be downloaded and patched (via apt-get source mythtv)16:53
directhex|bspevery package in ubuntu can be obtained via apt-get source16:53
v0lksmancool...kinda figured...wanted to be sure....either way I think I'll destroy my current setup and try mythbuntu...16:54
tgm4883_laptoppdragon, http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/11/hauppauge-intros-usb-pvr-with-component-input/16:55
v0lksmanhrm....sounds nice!16:56
pdragonthat mean you can record any HD stuff, even the non-free stuff?16:56
v0lksmanI think just the stuff you can tune with your TV....16:57
v0lksmanmy biggest problem with these setups is that you need an IR Blaster to have the puter change channels...the only way around that is DVB....16:57
v0lksman(for satelite at least)16:57
v0lksmanthis looks very similar to the PVR2 USB that Hauppagge had a couple years ago....nice box, but you needed some extra bits to make it all work with Myth and Sat....16:59
v0lksmanthanks for the help guys...sorry if I broke a rule...I'll keep that in mind for next time....17:03
tgm4883rhpot1991_laptop, ping18:30
rhpot1991_laptopwhats up?18:33
tgm4883found out i dont have class this morning.  Have a little time to help me with the xbmc mythtv plugin?18:34
tgm4883it's installed, but I cannot get it to connect to the mysql server18:34
rhpot1991_laptopsure18:34
rhpot1991_laptopI'm at work so if I have slow responses thats why18:34
tgm4883but other desktops can, so I know the mysql server is network reachable18:34
tgm4883ok18:34
rhpot1991_laptopdid you do the oldpassword thing?18:35
tgm4883probably not, not really sure what it is18:35
rhpot1991_laptopmysql> UPDATE mysql.user SET Password = OLD_PASSWORD('secretmagicpasswd') WHERE User = 'live';18:36
rhpot1991_laptopI'd make a seperate user18:36
tgm4883oh yea, didn't see that18:36
rhpot1991_laptopjust for that xbox18:36
tgm4883i followed the page....sec18:36
rhpot1991_laptopya I knew about that cause I had to do it for xebian18:36
rhpot1991_laptopSET PASSWORD FOR 'live'@'xbox_host' = OLD_PASSWORD('secretmagicpasswd');18:37
rhpot1991_laptopis an alternate method18:37
tgm4883http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Xbox_Frontend18:38
tgm4883let me try that18:38
rhpot1991_laptopafter I did that, I had to save my settings, and then go back into the settings again before the test would work18:38
rhpot1991_laptopnot sure if its some bug or not, but everything was fine and the test was still failing unless I saved18:38
tgm4883do i need to be doing this to the mythconverg database then?18:40
tgm4883or mysql in general18:40
rhpot1991_laptopmysql in general18:41
rhpot1991_laptophttp://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Xbox_Frontend18:41
rhpot1991_laptoperrr18:41
rhpot1991_laptophttp://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/MythTV_on_Xebian_HOWTO18:41
rhpot1991_laptopthats where I learned about that problem18:46
tgm4883thanks, i'll look it over18:47
rhpot1991_laptopnot much else on that of interest to you, unless you want to try out xebian too18:48
tgm4883_laptopman18:57
tgm4883_laptopwhat the heck, something is wrong with my router or something.  Keeps losing my wan ip18:57
tgm4883need to set my xbox up with static ip too18:58
tgm4883ok, set the old password thing18:58
tgm4883now, when i set it up on the xbmc frontend, do i need to make the user live then?18:58
rhpot1991_laptopnah, the live user was for xebian, you can choose whatever you want18:59
rhpot1991_laptopyou enter the user into the mythtv script setup18:59
tgm4883k18:59
tgm4883restart mysql?18:59
rhpot1991_laptopI think I kept live for simplicity sake, that way I can use the same account for xbmc and xebian18:59
rhpot1991_laptopprob a good idea19:00
rhpot1991_laptopto make sure the privs flush19:00
abovebrew2hello, anyone alive? :)19:00
rhpot1991_laptopI'm sure someone is alive somewhere19:01
abovebrew2I'm looking for a hardware guru19:01
tgm4883_laptopyay, it works19:01
abovebrew2I've got an old STB card, I'm getting some errors in dmesg, I was wondering if someone might be able to take a look?19:01
rhpot1991_laptoptgm4883_laptop: let me know if you play around with live tv at all19:03
rhpot1991_laptopI generally don't use livetv on my setup19:03
tgm4883_laptopk19:03
rhpot1991_laptopalso give me some feedback about the interface when you mess around with it19:03
rhpot1991_laptopI just wasn't sold on it, seemed like my wife would complain that its too different than the old one that I had to get her to use19:04
tgm4883_laptopit will be awhile, seems really slow right now, but that is probably because im saturating the network by transfering all the shows from my old hard drive to the new box19:04
tgm4883_laptopnow to add it to the main menu19:04
rhpot1991_laptopxbmc interface seemed pretty speedy19:04
rhpot1991_laptopthough it had to randomly retrieve stuff like when you change a recording19:04
tgm4883_laptopyea19:04
rhpot1991_laptopxebian with a straight up frontend was nice, but just seemed to laggy19:05
abovebrew2xbmc on an xbox?19:05
rhpot1991_laptoplike 30 second skips seemd almost unusable19:05
rhpot1991_laptopabovebrew2: yep19:05
abovebrew2does xbmc port to unbuntu?19:05
rhpot1991_laptopI believe there is an xbmc linux client somewhere19:05
rhpot1991_laptopalso a windows one19:05
rhpot1991_laptopnot sure what you get by using them19:05
abovebrew2just the familiarity i'd imagine19:06
rhpot1991_laptopmaybe something like mythvideo only functionality?19:06
abovebrew2i'm still trying to get my first capture card to work19:06
rhpot1991_laptopya I can't help you with that card19:07
rhpot1991_laptopcheck the linux tv wiki's or the mythtv users mailing list maybe?19:07
abovebrew2hmmm, i didn't know there was a mailing list, i'll have to check that out19:08
abovebrew2i know i'm outdating a lot of people, i mean this card was made in like 1997 or something, but its a supported card19:08
abovebrew2I just want to make sure I can make Mythbuntu work... if so, I'll invest in a decent card19:09
abovebrew2(and a decent machine for that matter)19:09
rhpot1991_laptopmight just need to find what modules you need or something19:11
rhpot1991_laptoptgm4883_laptop: from what I saw, you add a button in that popup list, not on the main menu19:12
rhpot1991_laptopI wish the gPC "developer kit" mobo had tv out on it, I would just get one of them to make a frontend19:13
rhpot1991_laptopalso it would be nice if they stuck with mini-itx instead of going micro atx19:13
tgm4883_laptopi'm look at the page, but can't find the xml file19:13
rhpot1991_laptopits under the pal folder19:13
rhpot1991_laptopeven if you are using ntsc19:13
tgm4883_laptopXBMC/skin/Project Mayhem III/pal/DialogSubMenu.xml doesn't exist19:13
rhpot1991_laptopstrange19:14
rhpot1991_laptopdoes that folder exist?19:14
tgm4883_laptopyea19:14
tgm4883_laptoplots of other xml files in there19:14
rhpot1991_laptopyou have the most recent version?19:14
tgm4883_laptopmost recent tech ver19:14
tgm4883_laptopi'll grab the most recent ver of PM3 and check it out later19:15
tgm4883_laptophave to go move some stuff now19:15
tgm4883_laptopthanks rhpot1991_laptop19:15
rhpot1991_laptopI used the latest stable xbmcrelease19:15
rhpot1991_laptopwhich came with PM319:15
rhpot1991_laptopno problem19:15
rhpot1991_laptopI wonder if I should have posted in the mythbuntu forum instead of the Multimedia & Video forum, this is gonna be off the front page in about 30 seconds20:43
Davieyforums != teh suck :(20:47
Davieys/!// rather20:47
Davieyhehe20:47
rhpot1991_laptopwell I made the wiki entry, but that doesn't seem to be in the search results yet20:48
rhpot1991_laptopalso I can't seem to figure out how to link to my page20:48
rhpot1991_laptopit wants everything to live under community20:48
rhpot1991_laptopso I figured I would throw a forum post out there and see if I can get some traffic that way20:49
=== kjetil_ is now known as KjetilK
tgm4883heh, i just realized I only have a 100Mbit card in my master backend21:19
tgm4883no wonder it's taking so long21:19
alexvdi have a av710 soundcard and it is just supposed to work when you change sound output to adsp. It does not does anyone have a asound file for this card that works with mythbuntu22:00
Sphagnumtry just /dev/dsp?22:08
directhex/dev/adsp? meh?22:08
directhexwho uses that in this day & age?22:08
alexvdi tried using /dev/dsp that works for analog sound22:09
alexvdit does not work for optical spdif22:10
alexvddirecthex: i realize that is only a symbolic link22:10
directhextell myth to use alsa output, then flip the digital/audio switch in alsamixer?22:11
alexvdalsa:default22:11
directhexit's probably called iec958 in your mixer settings22:12
alexvdalsamixer what digital/audio switch.  I unmuted the iec958 to 0022:12
alexvddirecthex: did that22:12
directhexshould work then. works for me22:13
Faw2question: i configured the apple mini remote and irw works with it (i can see the events), but it does nothing in mythtv22:13
alexvdi have everything set to pcmout22:13
alexvddirecthex: that is what everyone says.  analog works but not digital out.22:14
alexvddirecthex: i have tried all kinds of different things22:14
lime4x4is a usb 2.0 external hard drive fast enough for recording shows and watching them back?22:14
directhexcustom asoundrc?22:14
rhpot1991tgm4883_laptop: how goes the xbox?22:16
Faw2the .lircrc has the following "begin remote=APPLE_REMOTE prog=mythtv button=Ok config=PLAY_PAUSE end"22:17
tgm4883_laptopeh, at class now22:17
tgm4883_laptopstill transfering shows to my new box too22:17
rhpot1991ah22:17
alexvddirecthex: that is what i asked for22:17
alexvddirecthex: should the sound sampling rate be at 48,000 or 44,10022:18
tgm4883_laptopfound out my backend is only 100Mbit22:18
rhpot1991you have gigabit hardware that you need something faster?22:19
Faw2is there something wrong with that .lircrc entry?22:19
tgm4883_laptopwell my whole network is gigabit, except for that box22:20
directhexalexvd, i was asking if you were using one, as i found it wasn't necessary22:20
tgm4883_laptopand my xbox22:20
rhpot1991what kind of router do you have?22:20
alexvddirecthex: yes i have read that with the new alsa u dont need anymore. the answer is no.  This is so frustrating22:20
tgm4883_laptopwell just a wrt54gs for that, but gigabit switches everywhere else22:21
rhpot1991ah ok22:21
rhpot1991I was poking at new routers and was surprised to see so many wireless n's that aren't gigabit22:21
tgm4883_laptopnothings really hooked up to the router unless it cant do gigabit22:21
alexvddirecthex: is it possible it could be that the receiver is somehow not able to understand the digital output from mythtv.  My DVD works find and lights up the reciever with digital signal notifcation but not myth22:22
tgm4883_laptoptrue, but n's aren't faster than 100mbit right?22:22
directhexalexvd, for general playback it should be stereo pcm, which everything should support22:22
rhpot1991actually I think they are22:22
rhpot1991or at least in theory22:23
rhpot1991which is why I was surprised22:23
rhpot1991whats the point of having wireless thats faster than your wired22:23
rhpot1991unless you are going wireless everywhere22:23
alexvddirecthex: so messing with the multitrack rate is worthless right?22:23
tgm4883_laptopdata rate is faster22:24
rhpot1991as opposed to?22:24
tgm4883_laptopbut throughput is only 74Mbit22:24
tgm4883_laptopdatarate is 248Mbit22:24
tgm4883_laptopalso N != Draft N22:25
directhexalexvd, AFAIK linux can't generate multi-channel pcm audio over digital. it'll pass through pre-encoded anything though22:25
tgm4883_laptopfoxbuntu knows alot about N and Draft N though22:25
rhpot1991ya, I'm talking draft n22:26
rhpot1991which is the latest and greatest IIRC22:26
tgm4883_laptopwell yes, as N isn't out yet22:26
tgm4883_laptopbut the word apparently is do not buy draft N22:26
rhpot1991I saw on the asus site they guarantee their draft n will meet 802.11n22:27
alexvddirecthex: i cant figure out why this wont work.  I couldnt get it to work on knoppmyth either.  I dont understand why if they analog works, and i can see the red light on the optical cable why it wont work. I have tried so many things. Everyone said just go into alsamixer unmute iec958 and ur good22:27
rhpot1991hmmm, word from where/who?22:27
tgm4883_laptopfoxbuntu knows people in the industry22:27
alexvdi am in the industry work for biggest player.22:28
alexvdu want a n router22:28
alexvdhelp me fix my sound22:28
mindframe-alexvd, sec22:29
mindframe-http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=493887&page=222:29
mindframe-look at that guys config22:29
alexvdmindframe: thanks going to look22:29
mindframe-it worked for me22:30
mindframe-i have the TB riviera 5.1 card22:30
rhpot1991I'll have to talk to foxbuntu before I snag my next router then22:30
mindframe-i would like a N router :)22:31
alexvdare u a cisco bigot22:32
alexvdcisco/linksys22:32
mindframe-no22:32
rhpot1991I'd be more interested if n worked in openwrt22:32
mindframe-buffalo22:32
mindframe-for home stuff at least22:32
rhpot1991I'm in love with asus routers22:32
alexvdi like asus stuff22:32
mindframe-i almost bought one of those for my dad22:32
alexvdhad buffalo too22:32
rhpot1991usb, great prices, and most of them you can install openwrt on22:32
mindframe-thats why i got the buffalo22:33
alexvdthe wrt350n works nice22:33
mindframe-ease of use w/ ddwrt22:33
rhpot1991why ddwrt over openwrt?22:33
alexvdwrt54gl or gs works well with tomato too22:33
mindframe-it's got everything i need... no customization required22:33
alexvdwell seriously i could send you a real router 871w for being a nice person and fixing my myth issues :) but then you would have to learn ios a little22:34
mindframe-oh i know ios a fair amount22:35
mindframe-that would be really fun to play with22:35
mindframe-im working on my ccna22:35
alexvdok let me bang on this sound problem22:35
mindframe-make sure you enable the passthrough options in mythtv general sound setup22:35
alexvdenabled those already.  btw the 871w still only does g the new 891 we are releasng will support n22:42
mindframe-do you use the TB riviera 5.1 card?22:43
AboveBrewDaviey: you around?22:51
alexvdmindframe: I use the maddog mutimedia entertainer 7.1 it is the same chipset envy2422:55
mindframe-ahh22:56
mindframe-how is a 7.1 card using the same chipset as a 5.1?22:56
alexvdi have seen others use the chaintech 7.122:59
alexvdalsa detects as chaintech av71023:00
mindframe-gotta head home23:00
mindframe-ill be on in a little while i think23:00
alexvdok thanks for the help23:00
alexvdalsa project says it supported via ice172423:06
Dr_willisHmm. My Mythbox is no longer hooked up to cable. I need a nice way to clear out ALL the recording schedules.  or its going to be recording static for a long time.. :)23:41
rhpot1991I saw somewhere on the wiki a way of pausing recordings for the time being23:41
rhpot1991http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Can_I_temporarily_keep_MythTV_from_attempting_to_record_my_scheduled_programs.3F23:42
Dr_willisWell  the SD account is expiring soon.. and wife cut down on cable. :) we get 3 channels now. So its going to be No more recording for some time23:44
Dr_willisusing mythweb at the moment and canceling all the recordings.. a bit tedious. but it works. heh23:44
Dr_willisAt least i do get the NationalGeographic channel still. :) now if i could just find a way to get the listings for that one channel into mythtv.23:45
rhpot1991write something to rip them from their website?23:46
Dr_willisYea. or i can just record 4 hrs blocks. :)  t23:48
Dr_willisThen again 1/2  night is Info-moercials.23:48
Dr_willisI HATE those things23:48
tgm4883_laptopis there a list of what each table in the database holds?23:55
lime4x4How much load does mythtv put on a system?23:56
tgm4883_laptoplime4x4, depends on what you are doing with mythtv23:56
tgm4883_laptopfor instance23:56
tgm4883_laptopif it's a backend only and has hardware encoding cards23:56
tgm4883_laptopthen little23:56
tgm4883_laptopbut if you are recording HD streams while playing back HD streams then that will do more load23:57
tgm4883_laptopalso depending on the specs of the system23:57
lime4x4well i have a 1.86 core duo system 2 gigs of ram and over 1tg of storage space. this computer is curretnly running gutsy. I use this box for web surfing, and creating videos23:58
lime4x4dvd creation23:58
tgm4883_laptopok23:59
tgm4883_laptoptuner cards?23:59
lime4x4pvr 15023:59

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