[00:00] <foxbuntu> nope
[00:00] <solarbaby> bitlbee is the best open source messenger architecture i've ever seen
[00:01] <foxbuntu> have to check that out
[00:01] <solarbaby> yeah if you need help configuring it with irssi..  I have all the configs worked out very nicely
[00:02] <solarbaby> I firmly believe that irc and all messengers are best handled in screen..  and I run a little 10 watt server that does all my basic linux tasks for me
[00:25] <tgm4883_laptop> anyone ir blasting with a pvr-150?
[00:31] <rhpot1991_laptop> tgm4883_laptop: no luck yet huh?
[00:32] <tgm4883_laptop> nope
[00:32] <tgm4883_laptop> i tried a fresh install on a seperate HD
[00:32] <tgm4883_laptop> I keep getting "unknown remote "blaster""
[00:33] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[00:35] <superm1> tgm4883_laptop, can you pastebin your lircd.conf?
[00:35] <superm1> your /etc/lirc/lircd.conf that is
[00:35] <tgm4883_laptop> yes sec
[00:37] <tgm4883_laptop> http://pastebin.com/m60325184
[00:38] <tgm4883_laptop> I also just noticed that if I edit the hardware.conf and replace lirc_i2c with lirc_pvr150, then irw no longer will see my remote button presses
[00:39] <tgm4883_laptop> also, i just realized that in the error above, it is Blaster
[00:39] <tgm4883_laptop> notice the capital B
[00:39] <tgm4883_laptop> i had also tried lower case which didn't work either
[00:45] <tgm4883_laptop> the silence as everyone looks over my issue is very reissuring
[00:45] <Sebulba02> hello, I'm having a strange issue with the latest stable release of mythbuntu.  When I'm watching recordings, the playback will hang up at random unless there is some kind of network activity (like a ping).  Keyboard/remote activity seem to be processed captured, but are not updated until a ping or something comes through.  Anyone ever heard anything like this and/or know how to start diagnosing it?
[00:47] <rhpot1991_laptop> freaking reruns
[00:48] <Sebulba02> I second that.
[00:50] <Sebulba02> Oh, I forgot to say.  It's a dedicated FE only, the BE is a network server and the movies are mounted over NFS.
[00:53] <AboveBrew> hello
[00:53] <AboveBrew> I've got mythbuntu installed with a "STB TV PCI FM, Gateway P/N 6000704 (bt878)", whats the easiest way to make sure the card is working?
[00:56] <Sebulba02> AboveBrew: I usually try to record a random 5 minute clip when I need to make sure everything is working.
[00:57] <AboveBrew> Sebulba02: I'm not sure if the card is even working
[00:58] <AboveBrew> Sebulba02: I just have an antenna hooked into it...not sure how to see live TV
[00:58] <Sebulba02> If you're using the classic menu, goto "Watch TV" -> Live TV or something like that
[00:59] <Sebulba02> Sorry, it's "TV" -> "Watch TV"
[00:59] <AboveBrew> I'm at the Mythbuntu setup "General, capture cards, video sources, input connections, channel editor" nothing that says live tv
[00:59] <Sebulba02> Oh, my bad, when you said installed I thought you had everything configured
[01:00] <AboveBrew> Channel Frequency, I have set up as us-bcast
[01:01] <Sebulba02> Sounds right
[01:01] <AboveBrew> Capture Cards, I see: V4L : /dev/video0
[01:01] <AboveBrew> Default Input: Television
[01:02] <AboveBrew> Probed Info: BT848 video ( *** UNKNOWN/GENER [bttv]
[01:02] <Sebulba02> Sounds like you're in mythtv-setup
[01:03] <Sebulba02> or not, I don't recall seeing what you're seeing when I set mine up
[01:03] <Sebulba02> except on my backend, which is plain ubuntu
[01:04] <AboveBrew> I'm using a backend/front end combo
[01:04] <AboveBrew> 1. This is just a test
[01:04] <AboveBrew> 2. I'd like to prove the card works
[01:04] <AboveBrew> I thought there would be some low level way to tell the card is actually working
[01:05] <AboveBrew> It doesn't find anything when I scan for channels
[01:05] <Sebulba02> You MIGHT be able to cat /dev/video0 > /some/output/file.avi
[01:05] <Sebulba02> then stop it after a few secs
[01:05] <Sebulba02> see if anything comes out
[01:05] <Sebulba02> but if you can't scan for channels
[01:06] <Sebulba02> I'd assume it's not working properly
[01:06] <AboveBrew> Thats what I would think too
[01:06] <Sebulba02> (but that's just me)
[01:06] <AboveBrew> this is a very old card, but its on the supported list
[01:06] <Sebulba02> does `dmesg` say anything about the card?
[01:07] <AboveBrew> where is dmesg
[01:07] <Sebulba02> dmesg is a command line command
[01:07] <Sebulba02> and in /var/log/dmesgs
[01:08] <Sebulba02>  /var/log/dmesg *
[01:08] <Sebulba02> try something like `dmesg | grep video`
[01:08] <AboveBrew> yeah i see some stuff there
[01:09] <Sebulba02> anything about your card though?
[01:09] <AboveBrew> bttv: Bt8xx card found (0)
[01:09] <Sebulba02> is there anything after that?
[01:09] <AboveBrew> i know that card has a bt8 chip on it
[01:10] <AboveBrew> hmm bunch of errors in there though
[01:10] <AboveBrew> i'll see if i can output this file and give it to a hardware guru in here
[01:20] <AboveBrew> Daviey: Remember me? :)
[01:34] <superm1> tgm4883_laptop, sorry i was afk
[01:34] <superm1> yeah you caught the Blaster vs blaster issue
[01:34] <superm1> good
[01:34] <superm1> now it doesn't recognize keypresses though ?
[01:34] <tgm4883_laptop> nope
[01:34] <tgm4883_laptop> not when i put in lirc_pvr150
[01:34] <superm1> does it blast?
[01:37] <tgm4883_laptop> superm1, nope
[01:37] <superm1> well that's not very useful
[01:37] <superm1> how about dmesg?
[01:37] <superm1> talk about it?
[01:37] <tgm4883_laptop> not very useful at all
[01:38] <tgm4883_laptop> nothing bad
[01:38] <tgm4883_laptop> thomas@myrtle:~$ dmesg | grep pvr150
[01:38] <tgm4883_laptop> [   42.618654] lirc_pvr150: chip found with RX and TX
[01:38] <tgm4883_laptop> [   42.636920] lirc_pvr150: firmware of size 302355 loaded
[01:38] <tgm4883_laptop> [   42.637152] lirc_pvr150: 743 codesets loaded
[01:38] <tgm4883_laptop> [   42.653369] lirc_pvr150: Hauppauge PVR-150 IR blaster: firmware version 1.3.0
[01:39] <tgm4883_laptop> i'd be ok with it not getting the key presses, but it has to blast
[01:39] <superm1> sounds to me like it should be working
[01:39] <tgm4883_laptop> thats what I thought
[01:39] <superm1> even though it works with lirc_i2c, have you tried jiggling the cable a wee bit?
[01:40] <superm1> in case its more finicky with pvr150
[01:40] <tgm4883_laptop> i haven't, although
[01:40] <tgm4883_laptop> heres the error i get
[01:40] <tgm4883_laptop> thomas@myrtle:~$ irsend SEND_ONCE Blaster Power
[01:40] <tgm4883_laptop> irsend: command failed: SEND_ONCE Blaster Power
[01:40] <tgm4883_laptop> irsend: unknown remote: "Blaster"
[01:40] <tgm4883_laptop> which doesn't seem to be a hardware issue
[01:42]  * superm1 looks at the pastebin again
[01:43] <rhpot1991_laptop> is there any way to run mythtv-setup (I need to get some screenshots) without stopping the backend?
[01:43] <superm1> yes there is
[01:43] <superm1> but some stuff might not work right
[01:43] <superm1> mythtv-setup.real
[01:43] <rhpot1991_laptop> some stuff, in mythtv-setup?
[01:43] <superm1> yeah
[01:43] <rhpot1991_laptop> thats fine, as long as I'm not gonna bust my recording
[01:44] <superm1> tgm4883_laptop, try blowing away the rest of the lircd.conf
[01:44] <superm1> other than the remote for the blaster
[01:44] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[01:51] <tgm4883_laptop> superm1, nope, still unknown remote
[01:51] <superm1> well that's just crazy.
[01:52] <tgm4883_laptop> i know
[01:54] <tgm4883_laptop> would selecting the wrong remote in MCC make any difference?
[01:55] <superm1> are you on hardy?
[01:55] <superm1> if so yes.
[01:55] <superm1> otherwise no
[01:55] <tgm4883_laptop> gutsy
[01:56] <superm1> did you select it *after* modifying your lircd.conf?
[01:56] <superm1> because that blows away the old settings
[01:56] <tgm4883_laptop> no
[01:56] <tgm4883_laptop> i selected it during install
[01:56] <superm1> that won't matter then.
[01:57] <superm1> try launching lircd -d
[01:57] <superm1> instead of via init script
[01:57] <superm1> r
[01:57] <superm1> lircd -n
[01:57] <superm1> and you can try to debug it that way
[01:57] <superm1> see what it has to say while it parses the remote
[01:57] <tgm4883_laptop> lircd -d?
[01:57] <superm1> -n
[01:57] <tgm4883_laptop> sudo?
[01:58] <superm1> i don't think it matters
[01:58] <superm1> check the permissions on /dev/lirc0 and /dev/lircd
[01:58] <superm1> you'll see if you need to
[01:58] <tgm4883_laptop> well i get permission denied
[01:58] <tgm4883_laptop> so
[01:58] <tgm4883_laptop> i guess so
[01:59] <tgm4883_laptop> owned by root
[02:00] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[02:00] <tgm4883_laptop> lircd-0.8.2[6674]: "2155675658": must be a valid (lirc_t) number
[02:00] <superm1> so there you go.?
[02:00] <superm1> try putting it on the same line
[02:00] <superm1> as name Power
[02:00] <tgm4883_laptop> heh
[02:00] <tgm4883_laptop> lircd-0.8.2[6677]: garbage after 'name' token in line 12 ignored
[02:01] <superm1> hm
[02:01] <superm1> well google away then :)
[02:01] <superm1> i swear i saw something about this
[02:01] <superm1> on either the forums
[02:01] <superm1> or on the lirc-list mailing list
[02:01] <superm1> with that same error
[02:01] <superm1> about lirc_t numbers
[02:04] <tgm4883_laptop> arg
[02:04] <tgm4883_laptop> it's not real hard evidence
[02:04] <tgm4883_laptop> but it may be a 64-bit problem
[02:05] <tgm4883_laptop> well, actually it's a lirc problem with it not working well with 64-bit
[02:05] <rhpot1991_laptop> this screenshow howto lies
[02:06] <rhpot1991_laptop> do you attach files at some point other than when you are first making the entry?
[02:08] <superm1> yeah
[02:08] <superm1> you can do it later
[02:08] <tgm4883_laptop> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4122765
[02:08] <tgm4883_laptop> superm1, see the last post there
[02:09] <superm1> tgm4883_laptop, yeah i knew i wasn't crazy
[02:09] <superm1> and that i saw it somewhere
[02:09] <superm1> so ditch the 64 bit ?
[02:09] <tgm4883_laptop> :(
[02:10] <tgm4883_laptop> for now perhaps
[02:10] <tgm4883_laptop> just on the backend though
[02:11] <tgm4883_laptop> superm1, is it possible to grab the DB from my old harddrive that isn't in the box anymore?  I'd like to keep my recorded programs, season pass, etc
[02:11] <tgm4883_laptop> at least a few tables
[02:11] <superm1> yeah
[02:11] <tgm4883_laptop> k
[02:11] <rhpot1991_laptop> you can prob boot the live cd or knoppix or something to dump the db
[02:11] <tgm4883_laptop> i'll bug you later about that, i have to install 32-bit ubuntu now then install mythbuntu
[02:11] <superm1> just install 33 bit mythbuntu?
[02:12] <superm1> *32
[02:12] <tgm4883_laptop> rhpot1991_laptop, the hard drive isn't even in the system anymore.  If I put the hard drive in, i would just boot that up ;)
[02:12] <tgm4883_laptop> i don't have a mythbuntu disk right now :(
[02:12] <rhpot1991_laptop> well you can toss it into anything if you were booting a live cd
[02:12] <tgm4883_laptop> and my internet isn't as fast as it use to be :(
[02:12] <tgm4883_laptop> only 1.5 now
[02:13] <tgm4883_laptop> f this is ridiculas.  Do you know how long it takes to edit out the channels you don't get in schedules direct with directv?
[02:14] <superm1> tgm4883_laptop, dude, just dump your table ow?
[02:14] <superm1> now
[02:14] <superm1> and then import it back in after you install
[02:15] <tgm4883_laptop> yea, i'll throw it back in real quick, but that /var/lib format thing sucks
[02:17] <tgm4883_laptop> rhpot1991_laptop, were you able to watch live tv via xbmc mythtv plugin?
[02:18] <rhpot1991_laptop> tgm4883_laptop: I read some about how to do it, didn't actually mess with it though
[02:19] <tgm4883_laptop> you can watch recordings though?
[02:19] <rhpot1991_laptop> ya my recordings worked
[02:19] <rhpot1991_laptop> live tv is supposed to work too
[02:19] <rhpot1991_laptop> I keep jumping from project to project without finishing any
[02:20] <rhpot1991_laptop> I'll get this wiki half way done tonight and never touch it again
[02:26] <superm1> well this can be a time for change
[02:26] <superm1> together we can prevail
[02:57] <slestak> i have added new recodings to my myth's filesystem, as well as music, but my frontend is not seeing it.  i have restarted both front and backend.  is there some "check for changes" function i need to run to update?
[03:20] <slestak> i looked at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MythMusic and it describes a "Scan for New Music" feature that I do not have.
[04:00] <BrionS> Evening.
[04:01] <BrionS> I have a strange problem and I don't know if it's hardware or software related.
[04:01] <superm1> i'd say it's hardware related.
[04:01] <BrionS> I have recently upgraded to gigabit ethernet in my home LAN and everything was running smoothly to my 10/100 Mbps Mythbuntu frontend
[04:01] <BrionS> :)
[04:01] <superm1> but that's without knowing anything :)
[04:02] <BrionS> Upgraded the machine to a Foxconn mobo with a Marvell gigabit ethernet on-board LAN
[04:02] <BrionS> my videos are shared over NFS
[04:02] <BrionS> previously streaming was fine
[04:02] <BrionS> now it actually skips forward
[04:02] <BrionS> as if getting data too rapidly
[04:02] <BrionS> so I plugged in an old Linksys 10/100 card I had
[04:03] <BrionS> but that card does it too
[04:03] <BrionS> both audio and video are affected
[04:03] <superm1> well that's weird indeed
[04:03] <BrionS> it's driving me nuts
[04:03] <superm1> change your nfs mount options i'd say to start
[04:03] <superm1> does myth do it too?
[04:03] <BrionS> currently they're: auto,hard,intr,rw
[04:04] <BrionS> I have 2 other frontends (backend is autonomous) and neither frontend exhibits this problem
[04:04] <BrionS> I also restarted the backend just to be sure
[04:04] <BrionS> yes, mythTV does it for my capture card
[04:04] <BrionS> except that one stutters like it's not getting enough data
[04:04] <BrionS> I've never seen this before
[04:04] <superm1> well that's very bizarre
[04:04] <BrionS> and only on this box which is otherwise rock solid
[04:04] <superm1> you know you might consider booting a live mythbuntu disk
[04:04] <superm1> and attempting the live frontend
[04:04] <BrionS> I did
[04:05] <superm1> you can rule out any software issues there
[04:05] <superm1> same thing?
[04:05] <BrionS> I think because of the video type (AVI) and the NFS I couldn't play it through Mplayer
[04:05] <BrionS> but through VLC it played fine (though the audio didn't come through -- AC52)
[04:05] <BrionS> so I did a fresh re-install
[04:05] <BrionS> thinking maybe this frontend was just fubar
[04:05] <BrionS> but after the reinstall same deal
[04:05] <BrionS> :'(
[04:06] <superm1> frequency scaling perhaps?
[04:06] <BrionS> the only "customization" I have on this box is the NFS mounts and enabling the SPDIF output in ALSA
[04:06] <superm1> does the new board support it whereas the old one didn't?
[04:06] <BrionS> not familiar with that
[04:06] <BrionS> how would i check/change?
[04:07] <superm1> its been a while since i've toyed with freq scaling, you'll have to google a bit for it
[04:07] <superm1> there is a way to turn on and off the scaling if your cpu supports it
[04:07] <superm1> within /sys or /proc (forget which)
[04:07] <BrionS> what would frequency scaling offer me? (or what problems would it cause generally speaking?)
[04:08] <superm1> well it changes the cpu speed based on load
[04:08] <superm1> to save power/heat usually
[04:09] <BrionS> ah yes
[04:09] <BrionS> this new machine is dual core compared to a single core before
[04:09] <BrionS> odd that the CPU would go into a power save mode while streaming video and audio
[04:10] <BrionS> sounds like I'd want to disable frequency scaling to test
[04:10] <BrionS> (or check to see if it's enabled first I suppose)
[04:16] <superm1> yeah
[04:26] <BrionS> any ideas if that doesn't work?
[04:26] <BrionS> just trying to queue up a few solutions
[04:26] <BrionS> :)
[04:32] <BrionS> I don't think my processor has CPU frequency scaling actually
[04:32] <BrionS> it's a Pentium D
[04:32] <BrionS> and I don't see the p4_clockmod module loaded
[04:33] <BrionS> nor acpi_cpufreq
[04:33] <BrionS> so I'm going to go with that's not the problem :(
[04:34] <BrionS> Pentium D is an old dual-core chip so it probably came out before frequency scaling was the norm
[05:23] <telee> should i look for a cache size of 16 or 8 mb.  is there really a difference?
[05:23] <telee> when speaking of a HD
[05:41] <superm1> !ipod | rhpot1991_laptop
[05:41] <ubotu> rhpot1991_laptop: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[05:42] <rhpot1991_laptop> ya that doesn't fit
[05:42] <superm1> !psp | rhpot1991_laptop
[05:42] <ubotu> rhpot1991_laptop: For information on using the PlayStation Portable with Ubuntu, please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PSP
[05:42] <superm1> ha fancy that
[05:43] <Aquahallic> Evenin' folks
[05:44] <Aquahallic> anyone here using VNC with mythbuntu??
[05:45] <superm1> sure
[05:45] <Aquahallic> have you had a problem with VNC viewer refreshing?
[05:46] <bruce_> Can someone answer some generic (non-ubuntu oriented) mythtv questions on the proper /dev/dvb/adapter0 entry for a 'Air2PC/AirStar 2 ATSC 1st generation' card? It registers and initializes on boot with no errors (finally!), but won't seem to "open" in mythtv-setup. I have tried all of the entries in /dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0,  dvr0,  frontend0 & net0. No luck. Is this a permission problem? If...
[05:46] <bruce_> ...so, how do I correct it?
[05:46] <superm1> do you have the opengl theme painter turned on?
[05:46] <superm1> bruce_, you've made sure that the backend isn't running?
[05:46] <superm1> before starting mythtv-setup
[05:46] <Aquahallic> I have my laptop that I have viewer on... then I setup VNC on my mythbuntu frontend.... when I try to control the frontend.. I can see my movements on the tv (frontend) but they don't reflect on the viewer unless I do a manual refresh
[05:46] <Aquahallic> you seen this?
[05:47] <superm1> Aquahallic, yes, but answer my question
[05:47] <superm1> regarding the opengl theme painter
[05:47] <Aquahallic> oh... yes I do
[05:47] <superm1> that's the issue
[05:47] <superm1> because opengl can't natively be shown by most VNC implementations
[05:47] <superm1> its a bit annoying (of course)
[05:47] <Aquahallic> is there a workaround?
[05:47] <superm1> you can hit refresh in your vnc viewer
[05:47] <Aquahallic> or do I have to revert back to qt as my painter?
[05:47] <bruce_> Hmm. on the opengl, I think so,  and as far as the backend running, I don't think so,    the only thing I've tried to do so far is run setup
[05:48] <rhpot1991_laptop> you can try nx and see how it behaves in there
[05:48] <superm1> or revert to qt :)
[05:48] <Aquahallic> nx?
[05:48] <superm1> bruce_, is this on mythbuntu?
[05:48] <superm1> or ubuntu?
[05:48] <rhpot1991_laptop> I think I still use qt on my boxes
[05:48] <superm1> or somewhere else?
[05:48] <bruce_> no,  I'm running Slackware 12.0
[05:48] <Aquahallic> is that another viewer client for VNC?
[05:49] <bruce_> I compiled it from scatch on my system
[05:49] <superm1> bruce_, well make sure that you don't have the backend running (ubuntu/mythbuntu automatically stop it for you, but normal mythtv installs dont)
[05:49] <superm1> Aquahallic, it won't change with the viewer
[05:49] <bruce_> just a sec.
[05:49] <Aquahallic> k
[05:50] <Aquahallic> guess I'll revert back to qt
[05:50] <superm1> Aquahallic, it would be an issue on the server end (
[05:50] <superm1> which is why rhpot1991_laptop was recommending looking into NX
[05:50] <superm1> but its probably more trouble than you are bargaining for
[05:50] <Aquahallic> yeah... I don't really think you lose much with qt vs. opengl do you?
[05:50] <superm1> just the transitions
[05:50] <superm1> in menus
[05:51] <superm1> otherwise identical
[05:51] <Aquahallic> yeah...
[05:51] <Aquahallic> no biggie
[05:51] <Aquahallic> :)
[05:51] <Aquahallic> never on the menus long enough anyways
[05:51] <Aquahallic> :)
[05:51] <superm1> you've gotta restart mythfrontend after you change it
[05:51] <Aquahallic> yeah
[05:51] <Aquahallic> another question.....
[05:51] <bruce_> nope, no backend running
[05:52] <Aquahallic> I used to run knoppmyth.... on the latest build I was running... there was an issue with viewing livetv and then hitting the guide button.....
[05:52] <Aquahallic> it'd lockup the frontend HARD
[05:52] <Aquahallic> I did it on this mythbuntu install the other night for the first time.... is that a know issue on mythbuntu also?
[05:53] <superm1> bruce_, okay then checkout dmesg, and see if there are any requests for firmware (if i remember correctly, there is a piece of firmware needed on the first gen air2pc cards)
[05:53] <superm1> Aquahallic, there are issues with the older nvidia drivers and xvmc and similar things happening
[05:53] <superm1> you hopefully shouldn't be seeing it in mythbuntu since all the versions of things are fairly modenr
[05:54] <superm1> modern even
[05:54] <Aquahallic> yeah.. I'm having to use nvidia legacy drivers
[05:55] <Aquahallic> so... that's prolly what's doing it... my g'friend likes to go into the guide from viewing livetv
[05:56] <bruce_> yeah, I got that taken care of
[05:56] <Aquahallic> I couldn't get her to stop and it kept locking up my frontend... so I had to change the guide button on my remote to just exit her out if she hits it.....lol
[05:56] <rhpot1991_laptop> superm1: I dunno, nx performs much much better than vnc IMO
[05:56] <superm1> haha Aquahallic
[05:56] <Aquahallic> it is a nice feature though....
[05:57] <superm1> Aquahallic, well if you don't necessarily need xvmc (and that is the cause), you can try to turn that off
[05:57] <Aquahallic> wish it was useable with my legacy drivers
[05:57] <bruce_> It inializes good.. I've seen all the error messages at this point, and I've gotten them all to go away
[05:57] <Aquahallic> where exactly is xvmc
[05:57] <Aquahallic> I don't think I even have it on.. unless it's default on
[05:59] <Aquahallic> is that the Xv picture controls under General Playback setup?
[06:07] <bruce_> superm1, It inializes good.. I've seen all the error messages at this point, and I've gotten them all to go away
[06:13] <tgm4883_laptop> anyone use a channel change script?
[06:18] <TazgodX> tgm4883_laptop you ever get that MRE to work?
[06:19] <tgm4883_laptop> nope, although i haven't really tried since
[06:19] <TazgodX> lol
[06:19] <tgm4883_laptop> now that i think about it i never did get an email back from the author
[06:19] <TazgodX> lol
[06:19] <tgm4883_laptop> do you use a channel change script?
[06:19] <TazgodX> did you get mythstreamtv to work? the one that streams over the net?
[06:19] <TazgodX> no
[06:20] <tgm4883_laptop> nope, haven't looked at that either
[06:21] <TazgodX> damn i thought maybe in the 2 months ive been gone, some improvements have been made :)
[06:22] <rhpot1991> TazgodX: you see my message, or can you not accept pm's?
[06:23] <TazgodX> i see it
[06:23] <TazgodX> i responded
[06:23] <rhpot1991> hmm strange, I never got it
[06:23] <TazgodX> lol
[06:23] <rhpot1991> wonder if it sent it to my laptop instead or something
[06:23] <rhpot1991> so, was that you, or am I mistaken?
[06:23] <TazgodX> probably not me
[06:23] <rhpot1991> alright
[06:24] <TazgodX> i never used knoppmyth more than 5 minutes, and that was just to test it
[06:24] <TazgodX> but i have complained about album art and iphone on linux, but doubt it was in here
[06:24] <rhpot1991> you can prob use atomicparsley to tag the albums
[06:27] <TazgodX> well i figured out why i can't send a private message
[06:27] <TazgodX> lol
[06:27] <rhpot1991> didn't register?
[06:27] <TazgodX> didn't identify
[06:28] <TazgodX> lol
[06:28] <TazgodX> my linux install auto recognizes
[06:28] <TazgodX> i dont even know why im on windows right now
[06:42] <Aquahallic> anyone know if mythburn has been packaged for mythbunutu??
[06:48] <rhpot1991> I thought mythburn no longer existed cause mytharchive did its job
[06:57] <tgm4883_laptop> Aquahallic, as rhpot1991 said, mythburn has been replaced by mytharchive
[13:07] <sebrock> Is mythbuntu planning on doing something like the automatic remote installer for different VFD/LCD displays?
[13:08] <Daviey> er, yes
[13:08] <Daviey> but lack of VFD/LCD's with the dev's is a problem
[13:09] <Daviey> I have a VFD, but requires a custom LCDproc, so not really suitable
[13:09] <Daviey> sebrock: but hey, if you want to buy the dev's one - you'll get results quicker :)
[13:19] <sebrock> LCDproc inlcudes most OEM displays these days
[13:21] <sebrock> Daviey: what do you mean by "er, yes"? Whas this so obvious?
[13:26] <Daviey> no
[13:26] <Daviey> "erm, yes" .. better
[13:26] <Daviey> ?
[14:54] <sebrock> :)'
[15:22] <v0lksman> hey all....quick question for yah....if I install mythbuntu does it come with all the NA patches or do I have to recompile if I need those?
[16:32] <v0lksman> anyone awake yet?
[16:38] <tgm4883> what patches?
[16:40] <v0lksman> the North American Provider patches....not really 100% sure what it is for but in my reading they always say it's necessary if you are going to use DVB in NA with Myth
[16:42] <tgm4883> what card?
[16:42] <famicon> hey i got an annoying problem
[16:43] <famicon> my HDMI out works in the bios etc
[16:43] <v0lksman> Hauppagge DVB-S
[16:43] <famicon> but not when the linux framebuffer inititalized
[16:43] <v0lksman> Nova I believe
[16:43] <tgm4883> famicon, proper driver support?
[16:43] <famicon> tgm4883 yeah true
[16:43] <famicon> buuuut
[16:43] <tgm4883> v0lksman, are you trying to tune a satellite?
[16:44] <famicon> then why does it work in the bios and not when linux starts
[16:44] <v0lksman> my HDMI works but only if the TV is on during boot...if I boot first and then turn on the screen it no workies...
[16:44] <famicon> yeah
[16:44] <famicon> mine only works UNTILL it boots
[16:44] <v0lksman> tgm4883:  yeah...
[16:44] <tgm4883> famicon, rudimentary driver support in bios
[16:44] <famicon> then why isnt it inlinux
[16:45] <tgm4883> famicon, these are all just guesses
[16:45] <tgm4883> famicon, what card?
[16:45] <famicon> via cx700M2
[16:45] <famicon> i think
[16:45] <famicon> unichrome pro II
[16:45] <tgm4883> v0lksman, afaik, not going to happen.  You won't be able to unscramble the signal
[16:45] <famicon> v0lksman do you have a CI module
[16:45] <tgm4883> famicon, hmm, i seem to remember reading something about the unicrome stuff
[16:46] <famicon> tgm4883 me too
[16:46] <famicon> but no luck
[16:46] <famicon> ;_;
[16:46] <tgm4883> :( DaveMorris is not around
[16:46] <v0lksman> I'm doing it right now and the patches came from the myth svn, which is why I ask....I run a seperate program to decode the signal but myth still needs to be patched to accept that or something...
[16:46] <tgm4883> ah
[16:46] <v0lksman> CI module?
[16:47] <tgm4883> well I believe it should work.  I think people like Daviey and laga use DVB-S
[16:47] <tgm4883> or maybe it was DVB-T
[16:47] <v0lksman> aight...I'm gonna assume the patches are there....I can't see why they wouldn't be.... ;)
[16:47] <tgm4883> or DVB-C
[16:47] <famicon> v0lksman yeah its a Common interface + Conditional Access Module
[16:47] <tgm4883> too many DVB-X things
[16:48] <v0lksman> famicon:  are we talking about HDMI connectors or DVB patching?  hahaha
[16:48] <directhex|bsp> you're talking about sasc-ng
[16:48] <directhex|bsp> i.e. softcam
[16:48] <v0lksman> yessum
[16:48] <directhex|bsp> and no, mythtv does not and will never support it
[16:48] <directhex|bsp> especially not in ubuntu
[16:48] <v0lksman> which I know just about enough to be dangerous...
[16:49] <v0lksman> well myth has patches to allow sasc to work though
[16:49] <directhex|bsp> no, sasc has patches to allow mythtv to work
[16:49] <v0lksman> relleh?  shit I thought it was the other way around....
[16:49] <v0lksman> been a year or since I last built my box.
[16:50] <directhex|bsp> mythtv as a project does not just not include support, it is actively discouraged
[16:50] <directhex|bsp> as in "by now you'd have been kickbanned from #mythtv-users"
[16:50] <tgm4883> which will happen here too
[16:50] <v0lksman> relleh?  damn...sorry if I'm pissing people off....
[16:50] <directhex|bsp> sasc-ng has almost zero non-infringing use
[16:51] <directhex|bsp> it's for people to pirate encrypted tv
[16:51] <v0lksman> yeah I figured....but I do pay for my service....I just like being able to use my mythbox to record without having an external tuner
[16:51] <tgm4883> on the flip side, there is a nice new hauppauge card announced which encodes HD OTF
[16:53] <pdragon> what's that?
[16:53] <v0lksman> so I'll re-phrase my question then:  Does mythbuntu have a mythtv-source package that can be downloaded and patched (via apt-get source mythtv)
[16:53] <directhex|bsp> every package in ubuntu can be obtained via apt-get source
[16:54] <v0lksman> cool...kinda figured...wanted to be sure....either way I think I'll destroy my current setup and try mythbuntu...
[16:55] <tgm4883_laptop> pdragon, http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/11/hauppauge-intros-usb-pvr-with-component-input/
[16:56] <v0lksman> hrm....sounds nice!
[16:56] <pdragon> that mean you can record any HD stuff, even the non-free stuff?
[16:57] <v0lksman> I think just the stuff you can tune with your TV....
[16:57] <v0lksman> my biggest problem with these setups is that you need an IR Blaster to have the puter change channels...the only way around that is DVB....
[16:57] <v0lksman> (for satelite at least)
[16:59] <v0lksman> this looks very similar to the PVR2 USB that Hauppagge had a couple years ago....nice box, but you needed some extra bits to make it all work with Myth and Sat....
[17:03] <v0lksman> thanks for the help guys...sorry if I broke a rule...I'll keep that in mind for next time....
[18:30] <tgm4883> rhpot1991_laptop, ping
[18:33] <rhpot1991_laptop> whats up?
[18:34] <tgm4883> found out i dont have class this morning.  Have a little time to help me with the xbmc mythtv plugin?
[18:34] <tgm4883> it's installed, but I cannot get it to connect to the mysql server
[18:34] <rhpot1991_laptop> sure
[18:34] <rhpot1991_laptop> I'm at work so if I have slow responses thats why
[18:34] <tgm4883> but other desktops can, so I know the mysql server is network reachable
[18:34] <tgm4883> ok
[18:35] <rhpot1991_laptop> did you do the oldpassword thing?
[18:35] <tgm4883> probably not, not really sure what it is
[18:36] <rhpot1991_laptop> mysql> UPDATE mysql.user SET Password = OLD_PASSWORD('secretmagicpasswd') WHERE User = 'live';
[18:36] <rhpot1991_laptop> I'd make a seperate user
[18:36] <tgm4883> oh yea, didn't see that
[18:36] <rhpot1991_laptop> just for that xbox
[18:36] <tgm4883> i followed the page....sec
[18:36] <rhpot1991_laptop> ya I knew about that cause I had to do it for xebian
[18:37] <rhpot1991_laptop> SET PASSWORD FOR 'live'@'xbox_host' = OLD_PASSWORD('secretmagicpasswd');
[18:37] <rhpot1991_laptop> is an alternate method
[18:38] <tgm4883> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Xbox_Frontend
[18:38] <tgm4883> let me try that
[18:38] <rhpot1991_laptop> after I did that, I had to save my settings, and then go back into the settings again before the test would work
[18:38] <rhpot1991_laptop> not sure if its some bug or not, but everything was fine and the test was still failing unless I saved
[18:40] <tgm4883> do i need to be doing this to the mythconverg database then?
[18:40] <tgm4883> or mysql in general
[18:41] <rhpot1991_laptop> mysql in general
[18:41] <rhpot1991_laptop> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Xbox_Frontend
[18:41] <rhpot1991_laptop> errr
[18:41] <rhpot1991_laptop> http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/MythTV_on_Xebian_HOWTO
[18:46] <rhpot1991_laptop> thats where I learned about that problem
[18:47] <tgm4883> thanks, i'll look it over
[18:48] <rhpot1991_laptop> not much else on that of interest to you, unless you want to try out xebian too
[18:57] <tgm4883_laptop> man
[18:57] <tgm4883_laptop> what the heck, something is wrong with my router or something.  Keeps losing my wan ip
[18:58] <tgm4883> need to set my xbox up with static ip too
[18:58] <tgm4883> ok, set the old password thing
[18:58] <tgm4883> now, when i set it up on the xbmc frontend, do i need to make the user live then?
[18:59] <rhpot1991_laptop> nah, the live user was for xebian, you can choose whatever you want
[18:59] <rhpot1991_laptop> you enter the user into the mythtv script setup
[18:59] <tgm4883> k
[18:59] <tgm4883> restart mysql?
[18:59] <rhpot1991_laptop> I think I kept live for simplicity sake, that way I can use the same account for xbmc and xebian
[19:00] <rhpot1991_laptop> prob a good idea
[19:00] <rhpot1991_laptop> to make sure the privs flush
[19:00] <abovebrew2> hello, anyone alive? :)
[19:01] <rhpot1991_laptop> I'm sure someone is alive somewhere
[19:01] <abovebrew2> I'm looking for a hardware guru
[19:01] <tgm4883_laptop> yay, it works
[19:01] <abovebrew2> I've got an old STB card, I'm getting some errors in dmesg, I was wondering if someone might be able to take a look?
[19:03] <rhpot1991_laptop> tgm4883_laptop: let me know if you play around with live tv at all
[19:03] <rhpot1991_laptop> I generally don't use livetv on my setup
[19:03] <tgm4883_laptop> k
[19:03] <rhpot1991_laptop> also give me some feedback about the interface when you mess around with it
[19:04] <rhpot1991_laptop> I just wasn't sold on it, seemed like my wife would complain that its too different than the old one that I had to get her to use
[19:04] <tgm4883_laptop> it will be awhile, seems really slow right now, but that is probably because im saturating the network by transfering all the shows from my old hard drive to the new box
[19:04] <tgm4883_laptop> now to add it to the main menu
[19:04] <rhpot1991_laptop> xbmc interface seemed pretty speedy
[19:04] <rhpot1991_laptop> though it had to randomly retrieve stuff like when you change a recording
[19:04] <tgm4883_laptop> yea
[19:05] <rhpot1991_laptop> xebian with a straight up frontend was nice, but just seemed to laggy
[19:05] <abovebrew2> xbmc on an xbox?
[19:05] <rhpot1991_laptop> like 30 second skips seemd almost unusable
[19:05] <rhpot1991_laptop> abovebrew2: yep
[19:05] <abovebrew2> does xbmc port to unbuntu?
[19:05] <rhpot1991_laptop> I believe there is an xbmc linux client somewhere
[19:05] <rhpot1991_laptop> also a windows one
[19:05] <rhpot1991_laptop> not sure what you get by using them
[19:06] <abovebrew2> just the familiarity i'd imagine
[19:06] <rhpot1991_laptop> maybe something like mythvideo only functionality?
[19:06] <abovebrew2> i'm still trying to get my first capture card to work
[19:07] <rhpot1991_laptop> ya I can't help you with that card
[19:07] <rhpot1991_laptop> check the linux tv wiki's or the mythtv users mailing list maybe?
[19:08] <abovebrew2> hmmm, i didn't know there was a mailing list, i'll have to check that out
[19:08] <abovebrew2> i know i'm outdating a lot of people, i mean this card was made in like 1997 or something, but its a supported card
[19:09] <abovebrew2> I just want to make sure I can make Mythbuntu work... if so, I'll invest in a decent card
[19:09] <abovebrew2> (and a decent machine for that matter)
[19:11] <rhpot1991_laptop> might just need to find what modules you need or something
[19:12] <rhpot1991_laptop> tgm4883_laptop: from what I saw, you add a button in that popup list, not on the main menu
[19:13] <rhpot1991_laptop> I wish the gPC "developer kit" mobo had tv out on it, I would just get one of them to make a frontend
[19:13] <rhpot1991_laptop> also it would be nice if they stuck with mini-itx instead of going micro atx
[19:13] <tgm4883_laptop> i'm look at the page, but can't find the xml file
[19:13] <rhpot1991_laptop> its under the pal folder
[19:13] <rhpot1991_laptop> even if you are using ntsc
[19:13] <tgm4883_laptop> XBMC/skin/Project Mayhem III/pal/DialogSubMenu.xml doesn't exist
[19:14] <rhpot1991_laptop> strange
[19:14] <rhpot1991_laptop> does that folder exist?
[19:14] <tgm4883_laptop> yea
[19:14] <tgm4883_laptop> lots of other xml files in there
[19:14] <rhpot1991_laptop> you have the most recent version?
[19:14] <tgm4883_laptop> most recent tech ver
[19:15] <tgm4883_laptop> i'll grab the most recent ver of PM3 and check it out later
[19:15] <tgm4883_laptop> have to go move some stuff now
[19:15] <tgm4883_laptop> thanks rhpot1991_laptop
[19:15] <rhpot1991_laptop> I used the latest stable xbmcrelease
[19:15] <rhpot1991_laptop> which came with PM3
[19:15] <rhpot1991_laptop> no problem
[20:43] <rhpot1991_laptop> I wonder if I should have posted in the mythbuntu forum instead of the Multimedia & Video forum, this is gonna be off the front page in about 30 seconds
[20:47] <Daviey> forums != teh suck :(
[20:47] <Daviey> s/!// rather
[20:47] <Daviey> hehe
[20:48] <rhpot1991_laptop> well I made the wiki entry, but that doesn't seem to be in the search results yet
[20:48] <rhpot1991_laptop> also I can't seem to figure out how to link to my page
[20:48] <rhpot1991_laptop> it wants everything to live under community
[20:49] <rhpot1991_laptop> so I figured I would throw a forum post out there and see if I can get some traffic that way
[21:19] <tgm4883> heh, i just realized I only have a 100Mbit card in my master backend
[21:19] <tgm4883> no wonder it's taking so long
[22:00] <alexvd> i have a av710 soundcard and it is just supposed to work when you change sound output to adsp. It does not does anyone have a asound file for this card that works with mythbuntu
[22:08] <Sphagnum> try just /dev/dsp?
[22:08] <directhex> /dev/adsp? meh?
[22:08] <directhex> who uses that in this day & age?
[22:09] <alexvd> i tried using /dev/dsp that works for analog sound
[22:10] <alexvd> it does not work for optical spdif
[22:10] <alexvd> directhex: i realize that is only a symbolic link
[22:11] <directhex> tell myth to use alsa output, then flip the digital/audio switch in alsamixer?
[22:11] <alexvd> alsa:default
[22:12] <directhex> it's probably called iec958 in your mixer settings
[22:12] <alexvd> alsamixer what digital/audio switch.  I unmuted the iec958 to 00
[22:12] <alexvd> directhex: did that
[22:13] <directhex> should work then. works for me
[22:13] <Faw2> question: i configured the apple mini remote and irw works with it (i can see the events), but it does nothing in mythtv
[22:13] <alexvd> i have everything set to pcmout
[22:14] <alexvd> directhex: that is what everyone says.  analog works but not digital out.
[22:14] <alexvd> directhex: i have tried all kinds of different things
[22:14] <lime4x4> is a usb 2.0 external hard drive fast enough for recording shows and watching them back?
[22:14] <directhex> custom asoundrc?
[22:16] <rhpot1991> tgm4883_laptop: how goes the xbox?
[22:17] <Faw2> the .lircrc has the following "begin remote=APPLE_REMOTE prog=mythtv button=Ok config=PLAY_PAUSE end"
[22:17] <tgm4883_laptop> eh, at class now
[22:17] <tgm4883_laptop> still transfering shows to my new box too
[22:17] <rhpot1991> ah
[22:17] <alexvd> directhex: that is what i asked for
[22:18] <alexvd> directhex: should the sound sampling rate be at 48,000 or 44,100
[22:18] <tgm4883_laptop> found out my backend is only 100Mbit
[22:19] <rhpot1991> you have gigabit hardware that you need something faster?
[22:19] <Faw2> is there something wrong with that .lircrc entry?
[22:20] <tgm4883_laptop> well my whole network is gigabit, except for that box
[22:20] <directhex> alexvd, i was asking if you were using one, as i found it wasn't necessary
[22:20] <tgm4883_laptop> and my xbox
[22:20] <rhpot1991> what kind of router do you have?
[22:20] <alexvd> directhex: yes i have read that with the new alsa u dont need anymore. the answer is no.  This is so frustrating
[22:21] <tgm4883_laptop> well just a wrt54gs for that, but gigabit switches everywhere else
[22:21] <rhpot1991> ah ok
[22:21] <rhpot1991> I was poking at new routers and was surprised to see so many wireless n's that aren't gigabit
[22:21] <tgm4883_laptop> nothings really hooked up to the router unless it cant do gigabit
[22:22] <alexvd> directhex: is it possible it could be that the receiver is somehow not able to understand the digital output from mythtv.  My DVD works find and lights up the reciever with digital signal notifcation but not myth
[22:22] <tgm4883_laptop> true, but n's aren't faster than 100mbit right?
[22:22] <directhex> alexvd, for general playback it should be stereo pcm, which everything should support
[22:22] <rhpot1991> actually I think they are
[22:23] <rhpot1991> or at least in theory
[22:23] <rhpot1991> which is why I was surprised
[22:23] <rhpot1991> whats the point of having wireless thats faster than your wired
[22:23] <rhpot1991> unless you are going wireless everywhere
[22:23] <alexvd> directhex: so messing with the multitrack rate is worthless right?
[22:24] <tgm4883_laptop> data rate is faster
[22:24] <rhpot1991> as opposed to?
[22:24] <tgm4883_laptop> but throughput is only 74Mbit
[22:24] <tgm4883_laptop> datarate is 248Mbit
[22:25] <tgm4883_laptop> also N != Draft N
[22:25] <directhex> alexvd, AFAIK linux can't generate multi-channel pcm audio over digital. it'll pass through pre-encoded anything though
[22:25] <tgm4883_laptop> foxbuntu knows alot about N and Draft N though
[22:26] <rhpot1991> ya, I'm talking draft n
[22:26] <rhpot1991> which is the latest and greatest IIRC
[22:26] <tgm4883_laptop> well yes, as N isn't out yet
[22:26] <tgm4883_laptop> but the word apparently is do not buy draft N
[22:27] <rhpot1991> I saw on the asus site they guarantee their draft n will meet 802.11n
[22:27] <alexvd> directhex: i cant figure out why this wont work.  I couldnt get it to work on knoppmyth either.  I dont understand why if they analog works, and i can see the red light on the optical cable why it wont work. I have tried so many things. Everyone said just go into alsamixer unmute iec958 and ur good
[22:27] <rhpot1991> hmmm, word from where/who?
[22:27] <tgm4883_laptop> foxbuntu knows people in the industry
[22:28] <alexvd> i am in the industry work for biggest player.
[22:28] <alexvd> u want a n router
[22:28] <alexvd> help me fix my sound
[22:29] <mindframe-> alexvd, sec
[22:29] <mindframe-> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=493887&page=2
[22:29] <mindframe-> look at that guys config
[22:29] <alexvd> mindframe: thanks going to look
[22:30] <mindframe-> it worked for me
[22:30] <mindframe-> i have the TB riviera 5.1 card
[22:30] <rhpot1991> I'll have to talk to foxbuntu before I snag my next router then
[22:31] <mindframe-> i would like a N router :)
[22:32] <alexvd> are u a cisco bigot
[22:32] <alexvd> cisco/linksys
[22:32] <mindframe-> no
[22:32] <rhpot1991> I'd be more interested if n worked in openwrt
[22:32] <mindframe-> buffalo
[22:32] <mindframe-> for home stuff at least
[22:32] <rhpot1991> I'm in love with asus routers
[22:32] <alexvd> i like asus stuff
[22:32] <mindframe-> i almost bought one of those for my dad
[22:32] <alexvd> had buffalo too
[22:32] <rhpot1991> usb, great prices, and most of them you can install openwrt on
[22:33] <mindframe-> thats why i got the buffalo
[22:33] <alexvd> the wrt350n works nice
[22:33] <mindframe-> ease of use w/ ddwrt
[22:33] <rhpot1991> why ddwrt over openwrt?
[22:33] <alexvd> wrt54gl or gs works well with tomato too
[22:33] <mindframe-> it's got everything i need... no customization required
[22:34] <alexvd> well seriously i could send you a real router 871w for being a nice person and fixing my myth issues :) but then you would have to learn ios a little
[22:35] <mindframe-> oh i know ios a fair amount
[22:35] <mindframe-> that would be really fun to play with
[22:35] <mindframe-> im working on my ccna
[22:35] <alexvd> ok let me bang on this sound problem
[22:35] <mindframe-> make sure you enable the passthrough options in mythtv general sound setup
[22:42] <alexvd> enabled those already.  btw the 871w still only does g the new 891 we are releasng will support n
[22:43] <mindframe-> do you use the TB riviera 5.1 card?
[22:51] <AboveBrew> Daviey: you around?
[22:55] <alexvd> mindframe: I use the maddog mutimedia entertainer 7.1 it is the same chipset envy24
[22:56] <mindframe-> ahh
[22:56] <mindframe-> how is a 7.1 card using the same chipset as a 5.1?
[22:59] <alexvd> i have seen others use the chaintech 7.1
[23:00] <alexvd> alsa detects as chaintech av710
[23:00] <mindframe-> gotta head home
[23:00] <mindframe-> ill be on in a little while i think
[23:00] <alexvd> ok thanks for the help
[23:06] <alexvd> alsa project says it supported via ice1724
[23:41] <Dr_willis> Hmm. My Mythbox is no longer hooked up to cable. I need a nice way to clear out ALL the recording schedules.  or its going to be recording static for a long time.. :)
[23:41] <rhpot1991> I saw somewhere on the wiki a way of pausing recordings for the time being
[23:42] <rhpot1991> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Can_I_temporarily_keep_MythTV_from_attempting_to_record_my_scheduled_programs.3F
[23:44] <Dr_willis> Well  the SD account is expiring soon.. and wife cut down on cable. :) we get 3 channels now. So its going to be No more recording for some time
[23:44] <Dr_willis> using mythweb at the moment and canceling all the recordings.. a bit tedious. but it works. heh
[23:45] <Dr_willis> At least i do get the NationalGeographic channel still. :) now if i could just find a way to get the listings for that one channel into mythtv.
[23:46] <rhpot1991> write something to rip them from their website?
[23:48] <Dr_willis> Yea. or i can just record 4 hrs blocks. :)  t
[23:48] <Dr_willis> Then again 1/2  night is Info-moercials.
[23:48] <Dr_willis> I HATE those things
[23:55] <tgm4883_laptop> is there a list of what each table in the database holds?
[23:56] <lime4x4> How much load does mythtv put on a system?
[23:56] <tgm4883_laptop> lime4x4, depends on what you are doing with mythtv
[23:56] <tgm4883_laptop> for instance
[23:56] <tgm4883_laptop> if it's a backend only and has hardware encoding cards
[23:56] <tgm4883_laptop> then little
[23:57] <tgm4883_laptop> but if you are recording HD streams while playing back HD streams then that will do more load
[23:57] <tgm4883_laptop> also depending on the specs of the system
[23:58] <lime4x4> well i have a 1.86 core duo system 2 gigs of ram and over 1tg of storage space. this computer is curretnly running gutsy. I use this box for web surfing, and creating videos
[23:58] <lime4x4> dvd creation
[23:59] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[23:59] <tgm4883_laptop> tuner cards?
[23:59] <lime4x4> pvr 150