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naliothLjL: ahh, you used the wrong words  :(00:00
LjLi.e.?00:00
naliothyou said, 'yesterdays troll hit'00:00
LjLnalioth: well i corrected 5 seconds later :P00:01
naliothyou meant to say "gnaa troll now on the network)00:01
LjLnalioth: i meant it was the same text00:01
naliothright00:01
ubotuastro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (kid0501)00:45
LjL#ubuntu: [02:11:35] <Grammaticus> RyanPrior, should I name the machine, 'Mulciber' or 'Iapetus'?01:12
LjLtoday's wasn't a real mass join was it01:34
Picihrm02:43
LjLyeah, i mistreated him.02:46
PiciI guess that would be bot abuse02:46
ubotuIn #ubuntuforums-beginners, nikoPSK said: ubotu is no fun, and is dumb as hell02:53
LjL!fun > nikoPSK    (nikoPSK, see the private message from Ubotu)02:53
ubotuIn ubotu, nikoPSK said: !ubotu is I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:54
LjLerr... yes, he knows.02:56
jdongis niko causing you guys trouble on IRC too?03:18
ubotuerawfish called the ops in #ubuntu ()03:39
Picihrm, that was odd, my alias took forever to work.03:40
tonyyarussoHmm, I'll be getting home about an hour and a half after the meeting starts - how slow do you plan to take it?  :P04:33
Pici@now04:34
ubotuCurrent time in Etc/UTC: January 15 2008, 04:34:02 - Next meeting: IRC Council in 20 hours 25 minutes04:34
ardchoilletonyyarusso: hehe04:34
naliothmeeting?04:40
tonyyarussonalioth: IRC council, Wednesday04:40
tonyyarussoWaaaaaaiiit04:40
tonyyarussoWednesday, 1am UTC04:40
tonyyarussoThat's TUESDAY for me04:41
PiciSunday Sunday Sunday04:41
tonyyarussoThat means whether I'll be there or not depends on how long my class goes04:41
naliothirc council meeting. hmmm04:41
Picihmmm04:42
* nalioth wonders if he should attend . . .04:43
tonyyarussoPici's bringing cookies04:45
ubotuIn ubotu, J-_ said: blueprints is Want to suggest, or discuss ideas of a future project? With Launchpad you can track blueprints (lightweight feature specifications) from discussion through to review, approval, and implementation. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/04:52
tonyyarusso!blueprints04:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about blueprints - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:54
* J-_ wonders if his factoid was agreed upon04:55
tonyyarussoDude, we totally need a command of !whathesaid04:55
tonyyarussoJ-_: looks fine to me, just working up the anti-laziness to type it04:55
J-_cool =)04:55
tonyyarussoone (minor) fix in syntax04:55
tonyyarusso!blueprints is <reply> Want to suggest or discuss ideas of a future project/feature?  With Launchpad you can track blueprints (feature specification summaries) from discussion through review, approval, and implementation.  See https://blueprints.launchpad.net/04:57
tonyyarussoI'll hit you if you say I'm not logged in.04:57
tonyyarusso%login04:57
ubotuOK04:57
tonyyarusso!blueprints is <reply> Want to suggest or discuss ideas of a future project/feature?  With Launchpad you can track blueprints (feature specification summaries) from discussion through review, approval, and implementation.  See https://blueprints.launchpad.net/04:57
ubotuI'll remember that, tonyyarusso04:57
* tonyyarusso hits ubotu with a medium-sized tree04:57
* tonyyarusso wonders why we never had that one before04:58
nixternalbecause only us lusers are interested in following specs :p05:12
tonyyarussohehe, possibly true.05:14
tonyyarussoI started following them when I had bugs annoying the heck out of me and there was a related spec.05:14
ubotuIn ubotu, J-_ said: answers is A structured searchable way to help users, whilst encouraging community participation and building your knowledge. Progress support requests, and receive rewards of karma to all relevant answers, volunteer to receive automatic notifications when new questions arrive in a preferred language. Remember, support requests create bug reports. https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu07:02
ubotuIn ubotu, J-_ said: mentor is <reply> Bugs and blueprints in Ubuntu that someone has offered to mentor. If you are a new contributor to Ubuntu and would like to know how to help, then https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mentoring is a good place to start.07:35
ubotuIn ubotu, J-_ said: translate is <reply> Translate Ubuntu into your own language, important translations that are needed are listed first. See https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/07:51
ubotuIn ubotu, J-_ said: milestones is <reply> Take a look at what our community, and developers have accomplished. Accomplished milestones can be viewed at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory Also see, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestones08:05
ubotuIn ubotu, J-_ said: store is <reply> Buy some Official Ubuntu Merchandise & Professional Support. See https://shop.canonical.com/09:18
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ubotuIn ubotu, J-_ said: thinkwiki is <reply> Install Ubuntu on a Thinkpad - A lot of how-to, and hardware information for Ubuntu. See http://www.thinkwiki.org/09:30
=== no0tic_ is now known as no0tic
ubotuDaviey called the ops in #ubuntu ()09:39
Daviey09:38:33 < Armageddon> U GUYS ARE ALL ASSHOLES, what goes around comes around09:39
Madpilotdealt with09:39
Davieyta09:39
* Hobbsee sighs at machines on other continents.09:41
Davieythe interweb seems broken today09:42
Davieynetsplits everywhere09:42
Hobbseeno, i tried updating a machine in germany09:42
Hobbseenow it doesn't respond to ping.09:42
DavieyHobbsee: better go and fix it :)09:45
Hobbseeheh09:45
Hobbseemy internet is being sucky, so i'm not sure if it's that09:45
DavieyDo you have serial console *iLo etc?09:45
Hobbseeno idea09:46
=== Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth
PriceChildHobbsee, did it respond to ping in the first place? 8-)10:36
HobbseePriceChild: yeah10:36
HobbseePriceChild: lokos like it came back up10:36
PriceChildwoo :)10:37
* jussi01 sighs... 11:19
ikoniajussi01: what's up11:22
jussi01ikonia: nm ;) all ok ;)11:28
ikoniagood good11:37
PriceChilderm... i think my wordpress has been hacked :/11:52
njanPriceChild, what's the symptom?11:58
PriceChildI might just be being alarmist, but wierd links are appearing and a couple of sites on same system have gone down.11:58
PriceChildI'm going to wipe, install fresh and restore with clean backups.11:58
PriceChildNot that most of it matters anyway.11:58
PriceChildgah, huge amount of spam links was in each header12:12
ikoniakeep an eye on Kalamansi he's been in the last few days asking for help on dubious topics, like "fake dns" "hiding IP's" etc etc12:19
=== no0tic_ is now known as no0tic
ikoniais Lokii making sense to anyone else ?12:38
jussi01ikonia: I didnt really see him, but his whois is kinda funny...12:41
assilvaalguen do brasil?12:46
Pici!br12:46
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.12:46
assilvaPici, sim , yes12:46
ubotudgjones called the ops in #ubuntu (super)13:35
=== Pricey is now known as PriceChild
=== LjL changed the topic of #ubuntu-ops to: Welcome to the home of the Ubuntu IRC Team operators | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam | This channel is for operator/abuse questions in the IRC Team domain only | Support in #ubuntu, #kubuntu etc... | LoCo channel discussion etc. to #ubuntu-irc | We reserve the right to remove idlers from the channel | Next IRC Council meeting: Wednesday 16, 1:00am UTC, agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/IrcCouncil/MeetingAgenda
ikonia /whois Kalamansi14:27
ikoniaoops14:27
PriceChildstalker14:28
ikonianah, buffer from earlier14:32
PriceChildsuuuuuure14:32
ikoniaha ha ha14:32
ikonia /whois pricechild14:32
ikoniaoopos14:32
ikonia;)14:32
Seveas /kill ikonia14:33
Seveas:p14:33
ikoniaahhh14:33
ikonia /touch seveas14:33
ikoniaoops14:33
ikoniafingers are slipping all over the place14:33
Seveas♪ can't touch this ♫14:33
SeveasHAMMERTIME!14:33
ikoniastop - hammer time14:33
Seveas!stop is <reply> Hammertime!14:34
ubotuBut stop already means something else!14:34
PriceChild♪do de do de♫14:34
LjLwow people are still reporting bugs against autodeb... at least they remind me it exists14:34
ikoniaSeveas: genius14:35
PriceChildHey sHINTA, how can I help?14:43
jussi01Im so sick of that bot, is there something going to be done about it?15:02
ikoniawhich bot15:02
jussi01 sHINTA [n=sy002@125.164.236.93] has joined #ubuntu-ops15:02
jussi01its a spambot afaik15:03
LjLit's banforwarded from #ubuntu at any rate15:03
jussi01yeah, its the one elkb*ntu was doing something about15:04
jussi01LjL: is there a reason you have chosen to have irc council meeting at such an ungodly hour?15:05
LjLjussi01: australia + the fact i don't wake up in the morning15:06
Hobbseebecause it requires australians.15:06
jussi01and what would be wrong with ~ 0700 utc? ...15:08
LjLthe fact that i don't wake up in the morning15:08
jussi01ahhh15:08
LjLalthough, i suspect 7am would be kind of ungodly even for the regularly-waking brits :)15:08
LjLwell perhaps not15:09
jussi01LjL: hehe... 3 am is my kind of ungodly hour...15:09
LjLanyway if you have items to put on the agenda, i say put them there anyway, and if you can't come, explain them to me or someone else who'll be at the meeting and we'll report15:12
LjLsince notice about the meeting was admittedly given a bit late15:12
jussi01stdin: is the !brokenkde factoid still correct/valid?15:13
jussi01LjL: ok, wil do :)15:13
stdinjussi01: no it can be removed now, RC2 packages are compatible with 4.0.0 upgrade15:13
LjL!-brokenkde15:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about brokenkde - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:14
LjL!-brokenkde415:14
ubotubrokenkde4 has no aliases - added by LjL on 2007-11-21 01:19:5615:14
LjL!forget brokenkde415:14
ubotuI'll forget that, LjL15:14
jussi01efficiency!! :)15:14
LjLi'd like to forget !brokenflash some day too...15:15
jussi01me also... grrr15:15
jussi01is it really all adobes fault? theres nothing we can do?15:15
LjLjussi01: i haven't investigated. all i read was that, "due to the new way they're packaging it", just modifying the checksum in the .deb package would not be enough15:16
LjLPici, awake?15:16
LjLi really need channel-specific highlighting15:23
jussi01LjL: yeah...15:25
LjLjussi01: i assume we're both thinking about the same reason for it right now ;)15:26
jussi01LjL: probably not as I have no idea what you are talking about. but I would really like to have it...15:30
LjLjussi01: i'm thinking about having "kde4" and variants on highlight, to redirect people from #ubuntu and #kubuntu to #kubuntu-kde4. however that highlight would need to *not* happen in #kubuntu-kde4 itself15:30
LjLalthough this is just the present instance of this problem, but i have others... i have most swearwords on highlight for instance, which means i get highlighted all the time in some channels15:31
jussi01ahhh yeah15:31
jussi01yeah, me too... I come back in the morning with a load of awaylogs...15:31
PiciLjL: I was in a meeting, whats up?15:34
LjLPici: your meeting agenda item... is it current, or just a leftover from the other meeting?15:34
PiciLjL: No, thats just cruft from the last meeting.15:35
LjLremoving it then15:35
ubotulogixoul called the ops in #ubuntu ()15:44
ikoniano panic, pici is around15:44
PiciNever Fear, Pici is Here!15:45
PiciEh, I'll just supervise..15:45
Pici#ubuntu-bo is Bolivia, not Buglaria.15:45
LjLeh, ikonia's fault :P15:46
ikonialoco page/websites are wrong15:46
ikoniaahhh the mailing list is ubuntu-bo15:47
Picihrm...15:47
LjLsigh15:47
ikonia?15:48
ikoniawhy so down15:48
LjLwell it's not precisely a good thing that a loco ml has a different name from the channel, with the corresponding channel being in turn assigned to another loco15:49
Piciikonia: Where did you see that info? I dont see them on the loco irc list.15:49
ikonianah, looks like a few lose ends15:49
ikoniaPici: google turned it up as the loco page was pretty empty15:49
ikoniahence how I've just found the mailing lists on the lists.ubuntu.com15:50
ikoniait was my mistake in taking ubuntu-bo as a channel rather than a mailing list addres15:50
ikoniaaddress even15:50
PiciI still dont see Bulgaria, only Bolivia15:50
ikoniahang on15:50
* LjL hangs up15:51
LjLtoooooooooot15:51
Picidoot doot doot15:51
LjLthe customer you have dialed is unavailable at the moment15:51
ikoniathe fingers you have dialed are too fat, please mash the keypad now to get a dialing wand15:51
ikonianothing in the mailing lists15:51
ikonialet me pull up the google results15:51
Piciikonia: +115:52
PiciI think you were a little mistaken ikonia, but no harm :)15:53
ikoniaI'm looking now15:55
ikoniabut it would appear I am15:55
ikoniaI don't know if I've spelt it wrong15:55
ikoniathe page was foreign15:55
PiciAh15:55
=== mc44_ is now known as mc44
ikoniamy bad15:56
PiciOh well :)15:56
=== mc44_ is now known as mc44
* Pici gives ikonia some aspirin 16:08
Jack_SparrowWhat is the link for downloading.. the check box for alternate is acting up.16:09
ikoniaPici: aspirin doesn't cure stupidity16:10
Piciikonia: I meant for you, not the other party.16:10
ikoniaha ha, I meant for me too16:10
ikonia;)16:10
=== GazzaK is now known as Gary
jussi01ardchoille: I dont like nuxils attitude.19:16
jussi01ie. [21:11] < nuxil> ardchoille, when someone aske me howto and i know it. i tell em how to do it, even thou its not recommended. that must the other person deside themself.19:16
ardchoillejussi01: Neither do I and I pm'ed him about it.19:17
jussi01ardchoille: ok. :)19:17
LjLthat's when you invite them here and discuss19:18
PiciOr lay down the law.19:18
ardchoilleLjL: Done :)19:19
ardchoilleI also didn't like: < nuxil> bleh dont lechure me about root.19:20
* jussi01 sighs...19:21
PiciSo?19:21
PiciYou have the power19:21
ardchoilleWhat? remove? kick? That's a tad drastic for this incident, isn't it?19:22
PiciI think not.  Bad advice is bad.19:22
ardchoilleTrue19:22
PiciEspecially after a warning.19:22
PriceChildardchoille, catalyse!!!!19:22
ardchoillePriceChild: I don't follow?19:23
stdininform them that the channel has rules, and those rules will be enforced :)19:23
PriceChildhttp://freenode.net/catalysts.shtml19:23
Piciuse !wfm, people listen to ubotu.19:23
ardchoillePriceChild: D'oh! I forgot about that. Thanks for the hint :)19:23
LjLPici, seems a bit excessive to me: "when someone aske me howto and i know it. i tell em how to do it, even thou its not recommended. that must the other person deside themself." - this is a reasonable statement, except it's not true on our channels.19:23
PiciLjL: I assumed a reasonable amount of warning had been given.19:24
ubotuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)19:25
* Pici slaps floodbot1 with floodbot219:25
ardchoillehehe19:25
LjLuhm, that's really a *big* amount of joins in one minute19:25
Picireally?19:26
LjLi can't understand if the #ubuntu usage patterns are changing *widely* compared to the statistics i had... or what19:26
LjLwell yes they are19:27
LjLwe have 1300 users... long time since we last did19:27
LjLi think19:27
PriceChildwooo someone just gave me a double decker19:27
Seeker`PriceChild: bus?19:32
PiciSandwich?19:32
PriceChildchocolate bar19:32
PriceChildIf I had a double decker bus... what would I do19:32
ardchoillemmm.. chocolate19:33
PriceChildI'd probably tour the world...19:33
PriceChildand play feeder reeeeeally loud from huouge speakers i put in there19:33
LjLreally, what's happening? we're still above 1300 users, that's... wow20:07
LjLis hardy out and no one told me?20:08
PiciLjL: I think part of it is influx from KDE420:09
PriceChildDidn't you get the memo?20:09
LjLPici: yes -kde4 has 30 users20:09
LjLyet20:09
LjLwill do some stats on the floodbot logs20:10
PriceChildonly a thousand and a bit away from record too20:10
PriceChildon forums20:10
LjLPriceChild: yet even on the forums, i can't see *that* much KDE 4 talk20:10
LjL(not looked much attentively, admittedly)20:10
PriceChildDIdn't say it was due to kde4 8-)20:10
PiciPeak for #ubuntu@freenode: 1617 (Thu Oct 18 15:16:23 2007)20:10
LjLPriceChild: well pici did. anyway sure, we're pretty far from the record, but >1300 is still pretty amazing for inter-release time20:11
PriceChildindeed20:12
PriceChildmaybe people have realised the mba doesn't have an optical driver and are leaving for us?.20:12
PriceChild*drive20:12
Pici!test20:26
ubotuFailed.20:26
jussi01Pici: at least he had the sense to leave...20:27
chaosrli was redirected to the #ubuntu-read-topic channel and followed the instructions in changing the server. could somebody help me rejoin #ubuntu?21:16
PriceChildchaosrl, on moment21:16
chaosrlok, thanks.21:16
PriceChildchaosrl, you may rejoin #ubuntu. Please ensure you connect on port 8001 from wherever you irc.21:16
chaosrlok. thank you!21:17
* jpatrick sighs21:54
jussi01jpatrick: ?21:55
LjLwhat's the matter21:55
jpatrickspanish guys registering #ubuntu* channels and spamming #ubuntu-es with them21:55
LjLkill em off21:56
LjLis it still evsa & friends?21:56
jpatrickno21:56
jpatricktho I had one of them in #k-es with spam21:56
jpatrickis stuff like this /akb-able?21:57
jpatrickaccording to this guy there's a #ubuntuteros now21:58
LjLjpatrick: there is not21:58
LjLthere is #ubunteros however21:58
jpatrick< danroj> ubuntureros21:58
LjLjpatrick: /akb = ?21:58
LjLthe kickban part i can guess21:58
jpatrick-> /abk21:58
LjLjpatrick: yes i saw that, but he's lying, it's not regitered21:58
* jpatrick like the auto_bleh21:59
ardchoilleI would thinking continued spamming after a warning is very /abk-able21:59
LjLah yes, ubuntuReros is21:59
LjLby him21:59
jpatrickardchoille: I've +q him21:59
ardchoilleThat'll do it :)21:59
jpatrickI had a guy in #k-es promoting #fedora-ni22:00
jpatrickhe was a known #u-es troll to me + I'd banned him there for the same above reasons, so I made him pack his bags22:01
ikoniahow sad22:09
jpatrickYet Another Guy in #ubuntu-es22:09
ikoniayou seem to get a lot of regular ones jpatrick22:09
jpatrickikonia: ^22:09
jpatrickok, kill time22:09
LjLbanale22:10
ikoniajpatrick: are you a spanish native22:10
jpatrickikonia: no22:10
ikoniaI always had you down as usa22:11
LjLthose people do it maliciously22:11
LjLthey know perfectly well that they shouldn't do that22:11
LjLespecially when they give full server name, port etc22:11
jpatrickikonia: UK, mate22:11
ikoniaoh cool22:11
ikoniaI had no idea22:11
PriceChildjpatrick, you're british?!22:13
jpatrickPriceChild: would you like some tea?!22:13
PriceChildBy jove! It would be delightful.22:14
* jpatrick puts on the kettle22:14
LjLeeeeek brits22:14
jussi01LOL22:14
PriceChildjdong, why have you not said anything yet?22:14
ikoniaPriceChild: you didn't know either ?22:14
popeyanother brit wakes22:14
ikoniapopey: I did know22:14
LjLmeh, now they all smell the tea22:14
jpatrickLjL: Hdd1(n=_Se[B]a_@190-82-223-52.adsl.cust.tie.cl)- sorry i didnt knew... i just send it cuz i couldnt send privates...22:15
popeyikonia: you did know what?22:15
ikoniapopey: that you where a brit,22:15
popeyi never said you didnt22:15
ikoniapopey: the : autocomplete symbol punctuated my statment badley22:15
ikoniaas in "popey I did know"22:15
LjLjpatrick: it's not like PM'ing random people is any better...22:15
popeyahhh22:15
popey:)22:15
jpatrickikonia: but yes, I have several spanish afflications22:16
ikoniajpatrick: actually, I'm telling fibs, I do remember, didn't you have an isp problem with zen at one point22:16
jpatrickno...22:17
LjLjpatrick: i suspect danroj believed he could speak (channel is +z)22:17
ikoniajpatrick: maybe not then22:17
jdongPriceChild: haha I hate being away from my keyboard; miss so many good opportunities22:17
jpatrickLjL: it's fun to watch them at that22:17
LjLjpatrick: i'd like to know what the question he stated he wanted to ask you is, though22:18
LjLsince i asked him a question in his channel as well22:18
jpatrickLjL: I /msg'ed him and explained what he did wrong22:18
LjLjpatrick: what he did wrong is creating a channel in the #ubuntu domain to begin with :)22:18
jpatrickLjL: ok, the spam bit :)22:19
LjLjpatrick: sort of unsurprisingly, he is in ##linux-cool *too*22:20
jpatrick...arg, I had to throw them all out of #u-es for... six hours of spam?22:20
jpatrickLjL: oh lord22:32
LjLyes, i saw him22:32
jpatrickevsa's back and danroj22:32
=== ikonia_ is now known as ikonia
jpatrickI've banned him three times!!22:33
DevourerCan someone unban me from #ubuntu please? :)22:33
LjLDevourer: let me look up your ban22:33
DevourerLjL: Thanks.22:33
DevourerLjL: Actually, I might have been named Devo at the time, not sure.22:34
LjLDevourer: ah, yes.22:35
LjLwhy did you give this? <Devo> Guess what I just learned? rm -rf /22:35
DevourerBecause I thought it was funny, I wasn't aware it was so taboo.22:35
LjLDevourer: it's not funny when people type it in22:36
DevourerI just learned about it 5 minutes prior. But I realize it was not funny and not a very smart thing to do.22:36
DevourerWill it really delete everything?22:37
jpatrickDevourer: your /home at least22:37
DevourerAnd you don't need sudo to complete the command?22:37
jpatrickI've seen it happen to someone on IRC, not pretty22:37
jpatrickDevourer: it can still remove your /home as you have access there22:38
DevourerWow, that is a dangerous command.22:38
DevourerI see.22:38
LjLDevourer: and people do type commands that are given on irc channels. and it isn't fun. so, i'll unban you now, but please never do something like this again22:38
LjL!etiquette > Devourer    (Devourer, see the private message from Ubotu)22:39
DevourerLjL: Thank you. I mostly used #ubuntu for questions.22:39
* thoreauputic pokes ompaul 23:06
ompaulthoreauputic, happy pokage23:06
thoreauputicompaul: :)23:07
nalioththoreauputic! wow, welcome to #ubuntu-ops!  :D23:07
thoreauputicompaul: so where did the bug reports for the inXtaller get lost in the mail ;p23:07
Mezeljk, the kiba dock is uber :D23:07
thoreauputicnalioth: hello23:07
Mezelkbuntu, *23:07
ompaulthoreauputic, read the pm23:07
thoreauputicOK23:07
ubotuIn ubotu, no0tic said: no rootirc is <reply> Non è tecnicamente un nostro problema, ma usare root per chattare su irc è una Idea Pessima. In effetti, fare qualsiasi cosa come root quando root non è necessario non è una buona pratica, specialmente con software che si connette a Internet.23:53
no0ticuhm, wrong bot23:53

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