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ari_stressmorning all :D00:16
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sahilwhere can i find a list of the packages edubuntu has selected for its educational packages/games list?06:43
johnny_good question, but you're going to prolly have to wait til USA/Europe daytime to get an answer06:49
johnny_if it's not on the edubuntu site06:49
RichEd=== edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting = 2 mins time ===11:59
cliebow__johnny: you said you were having trouble with megaraid crapping out..so not even reboot wiil work without input/output errors?13:00
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pips1combining UDS and UES makes sense somehow, in as such that UDS has a nice "buzz" and that teachers, edu stakeholders, etc have a chance to meet the "geeks" that actually build the software?13:38
pips1but the UES should definitely have it's own programme13:38
ograyes, especially now that edu needs have to be fulfilled by the distro team and not the edubuntu team alone13:38
ograso its essential to have the right specs in place for the distro13:39
ogratriggered by the edu users13:39
ograwhich means for me that two days in advance would make most sense13:39
ograanyway, coffeee13:39
pips1also, I thought UDS in Seville was fantastic, since we visited the guadalinex school and management center... lots of non-edu ubunteros came along for that visit...13:41
RichEdpips1 & ogra: sabdfl said that he had heard feedback from some teaching people that edubuntu etc. is sometimes driven too much by tech ideas, and not in consultation with teachers feedback & requirements13:41
pips1sure13:41
RichEdso it may make sense (my general thinking) to have an edu summit which is more hadns on testing & workshop & feedback based13:42
RichEdrather than us pitching success stories, or new tech features13:42
RichEdtrying to create a pool of people who will review our releases from their usage perspective, and not an install and maintain point of view13:43
RichEdi am still trying to think this through13:43
pips1I think that's a problem with most software, but with edu it's particularly striking13:43
pips1RichEd: I like what you propose very much!13:43
pips1The success story pitching should be done at the equivalent of 'ubuntu live' con...13:44
RichEdso I was thinking that we could "manage a summit: how to get maximum access to computing resources for your budget"13:45
pips1UES should be workshops indeed13:45
RichEd(which is of interest to government funders etc.)13:45
RichEdand open source is obviously the first step in cost saving13:45
RichEdand base the hands on workshops on edubuntu ]13:45
RichEd... then get feedback from the participants on their experience, and also wow the windows users with the quality and scope of edubuntu apps & tols13:46
RichEdIf the summit is pitched as a maximal gearing of limited IT budget ... it may be easier for attendees to justify sponsorship by their own organisations13:47
RichEdrather than attending a "product" summit13:47
pips1hmm, interesting13:47
pips1this needs more thinking / discussing... but I really need to attend work now :-/13:48
RichEdme too :)13:48
RichEdkeep the basic idea in mind ... we can chat again13:48
pips1anyway, I'll try to keep the tentative dates for UDS free in my schedule, just in case13:48
pips1I'll be doing the "technology tour" in silicon valley again, mid may, I hope that won't collide...13:50
pips1highvoltage: ping14:28
pips1highvoltage: I add two bug reports for the new theme: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/edubuntu-website/+bugs so we don't forget...14:29
pips1RichEd: If you mail me a news announcement about educonlinux, I'd be happy to post it on the edubuntu.org site14:31
pips1ok, got to go... cu!14:31
bddebianHeya14:31
jsgotangcoheh sun acquired mysql14:52
joe___How can I tell my network name? I am trying to add a new workstation to a network15:08
ludoRA*$15:30
joe___Is there a doc for not-so-thin-clients?15:34
cliebow__??15:40
joe___cliebow__ ---> Clients that have disks and software of their own but share permissions and have a network /home15:41
cliebow__joe___, so perhaps an ldapserver with nfs mounted homedir?15:47
joe___yes.15:48
joe___perhaps.15:48
joe___ldapserver.... hmm.....15:48
joe___is there an auto-config for this in edubuntu or is this customization?15:48
cliebow__there is an smbldap-installer moquist wrote..15:49
joe___maybe this is already set up here. what would be a quick way to find out?15:51
joe___i haven't been able to figure out the user situation of this network.15:51
joe___maybe that's it15:51
cliebow__you con look in /etc/pam.d..at the common* scripts..and see if ldap is enabled15:52
joe___I don't see anything about it.15:53
cliebow__some use nis..that is ancient these days15:54
joe___I want the simplest and most functional =)15:54
joe___is ldap really the best way to share users on a network?15:54
cliebow__i am no expert..if you are in a domain with windows users i feel it is the way to go15:55
juliuxogra, ping19:20
lagaogra, ping19:20
juliuxhehe;) double ping19:20
lagalet's unite our powers to summon him19:20
juliuxok19:20
juliuxhm i also need riched19:20
juliuxbut he is allready offline19:21
lagayou're on your own with him ;)19:21
juliuxlaga, where are you living in germany?19:21
lagasaarland19:22
juliuxthat is france allready,)19:22
juliux;)19:22
laga-.-19:23
lagastill got a .de host :P19:23
juliuxhehe19:23
juliuxhighvoltage, ping?19:25
LaserJocklate meeting today?19:31
LaserJockor did I miss yet another one19:31
stgraberLaserJock: it was an early one19:41
LaserJockdarn19:41
juliuxRichEd, ping19:46
juliuxhi LaserJock19:46
juliuxwhat do you think about an edubuntu coffee mug?19:55
highvoltagejuliux: pong19:59
juliuxhi highvoltage19:59
juliuxhighvoltage, see question above;)19:59
highvoltageyay, still here, usually we miss each other :)19:59
highvoltagejuliux: how could anyone say no to any kind of a *buntu mug!19:59
juliuxhighvoltage, you can;)20:00
juliuxwe(ubuntu-de) are thinking to produce some edubuntu mugs20:00
highvoltageoh, cool!20:00
juliuxsome == 300;)20:00
highvoltagethat's a lot. will you be selling them?20:01
* highvoltage would buy one20:01
juliuxnot selling, you get them at a gift for a donation;20:01
highvoltage(even 3, one for richard and jane too)20:01
highvoltagecool20:01
juliuxtarget price is 5-6€20:01
LaserJockthat'd be nice20:02
juliuxshipping not included;)20:02
highvoltagejuliux: when does production start!20:03
juliuxif we will make them in the next two weeks20:04
juliuxbefor that i will check if we can "sell" 300 mugs;)20:04
highvoltagekewl20:07
juliuxwe will also make ubuntu coffee mugs20:08
highvoltagejuliux: you can sign me up for them too!20:10
juliuxcool20:10
juliuxhighvoltage, i will setup a special email address for mugs the next days20:10
highvoltagejuliux: great, keep everyone up to date about it!20:11
juliuxhighvoltage, i will write something on edubuntu-users;)20:14
highvoltagejuliux: yes, spread the word :)20:14
juliuxhehe20:15
juliuxat first i want check it with ogra and Riddell20:15
juliuxand riched20:15
highvoltageI'm going to get some sleep now, goodnight juliux!20:15
juliuxgn8 highvoltage20:16
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secretlondonHi23:24
kgoetzhi23:25
secretlondonWhen is the deadline for hardy edubuntu? The newest version of tuxpaint hasn't been synced as the debian dev hasn't packaged yet23:25
secretlondonwe'd obviously love it to get into hardy as it's lts23:26
kgoetzi doubt anything thats yet unpackaged would make it into an LTS23:26
secretlondonwell 0.9.17 is in gutsy, it just needs updating23:27
secretlondoni've made a ppa of the stamps but i'm aware we're in main..23:27
crimsunsecretlondon: have you corresponded with the Debian maintainer(s)?23:29
secretlondoncrimsun: we've tried to talk to him. he subscribes to our -dev mailing list but he's not responding23:29
secretlondonour lead dev has asked me to investigate23:29
crimsunsecretlondon: what period has elapsed since you asked him?23:37
crimsun(sorry, busy across a few channels here)23:37
secretlondoncrimsun: before xmas23:37
secretlondonthere has been a bug since nov too23:37
crimsunsecretlondon: ok, so across the holiday period, which I think is normal23:37
secretlondonis it worth me trying to package it, or should we chase him?23:38
crimsunok, so we're talking about 0.9.18?23:38
secretlondon0.9.18+CVS as there is a bug fix in CVS23:38
secretlondonwe've released a tarball of 0.9.18CVS23:39
crimsunhmm, is there any way it could be repackaged as 0.9.18.1 or 0.9.18a or the like?23:41
crimsunotherwise we'd have to resort to date buffoonery in the version string23:41
secretlondonBug #173293 is a bug asking for the new version23:41
ubotuLaunchpad bug 173293 in tuxpaint "Tuxpaint 0.9.18 with new useful features was released at November - please update packages" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17329323:41
secretlondoncrimsun: no problem. I'll ask bill to rename the tarball23:42

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