[00:16] <ari_stress> morning all :D
[06:43] <sahil> where can i find a list of the packages edubuntu has selected for its educational packages/games list?
[06:49] <johnny_> good question, but you're going to prolly have to wait til USA/Europe daytime to get an answer
[06:49] <johnny_> if it's not on the edubuntu site
[11:59] <RichEd> [13:00] <cliebow__> johnny: you said you were having trouble with megaraid crapping out..so not even reboot wiil work without input/output errors?
[13:38] <pips1> combining UDS and UES makes sense somehow, in as such that UDS has a nice "buzz" and that teachers, edu stakeholders, etc have a chance to meet the "geeks" that actually build the software?
[13:38] <pips1> but the UES should definitely have it's own programme
[13:38] <ogra> yes, especially now that edu needs have to be fulfilled by the distro team and not the edubuntu team alone
[13:39] <ogra> so its essential to have the right specs in place for the distro
[13:39] <ogra> triggered by the edu users
[13:39] <ogra> which means for me that two days in advance would make most sense
[13:39] <ogra> anyway, coffeee
[13:41] <pips1> also, I thought UDS in Seville was fantastic, since we visited the guadalinex school and management center... lots of non-edu ubunteros came along for that visit...
[13:41] <RichEd> pips1 & ogra: sabdfl said that he had heard feedback from some teaching people that edubuntu etc. is sometimes driven too much by tech ideas, and not in consultation with teachers feedback & requirements
[13:41] <pips1> sure
[13:42] <RichEd> so it may make sense (my general thinking) to have an edu summit which is more hadns on testing & workshop & feedback based
[13:42] <RichEd> rather than us pitching success stories, or new tech features
[13:43] <RichEd> trying to create a pool of people who will review our releases from their usage perspective, and not an install and maintain point of view
[13:43] <RichEd> i am still trying to think this through
[13:43] <pips1> I think that's a problem with most software, but with edu it's particularly striking
[13:43] <pips1> RichEd: I like what you propose very much!
[13:44] <pips1> The success story pitching should be done at the equivalent of 'ubuntu live' con...
[13:45] <RichEd> so I was thinking that we could "manage a summit: how to get maximum access to computing resources for your budget"
[13:45] <pips1> UES should be workshops indeed
[13:45] <RichEd> (which is of interest to government funders etc.)
[13:45] <RichEd> and open source is obviously the first step in cost saving
[13:45] <RichEd> and base the hands on workshops on edubuntu ]
[13:46] <RichEd> ... then get feedback from the participants on their experience, and also wow the windows users with the quality and scope of edubuntu apps & tols
[13:47] <RichEd> If the summit is pitched as a maximal gearing of limited IT budget ... it may be easier for attendees to justify sponsorship by their own organisations
[13:47] <RichEd> rather than attending a "product" summit
[13:47] <pips1> hmm, interesting
[13:48] <pips1> this needs more thinking / discussing... but I really need to attend work now :-/
[13:48] <RichEd> me too :)
[13:48] <RichEd> keep the basic idea in mind ... we can chat again
[13:48] <pips1> anyway, I'll try to keep the tentative dates for UDS free in my schedule, just in case
[13:50] <pips1> I'll be doing the "technology tour" in silicon valley again, mid may, I hope that won't collide...
[14:28] <pips1> highvoltage: ping
[14:29] <pips1> highvoltage: I add two bug reports for the new theme: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/edubuntu-website/+bugs so we don't forget...
[14:31] <pips1> RichEd: If you mail me a news announcement about educonlinux, I'd be happy to post it on the edubuntu.org site
[14:31] <pips1> ok, got to go... cu!
[14:31] <bddebian> Heya
[14:52] <jsgotangco> heh sun acquired mysql
[15:08] <joe___> How can I tell my network name? I am trying to add a new workstation to a network
[15:30] <ludoRA> *$
[15:34] <joe___> Is there a doc for not-so-thin-clients?
[15:40] <cliebow__> ??
[15:41] <joe___> cliebow__ ---> Clients that have disks and software of their own but share permissions and have a network /home
[15:47] <cliebow__> joe___, so perhaps an ldapserver with nfs mounted homedir?
[15:48] <joe___> yes.
[15:48] <joe___> perhaps.
[15:48] <joe___> ldapserver.... hmm.....
[15:48] <joe___> is there an auto-config for this in edubuntu or is this customization?
[15:49] <cliebow__> there is an smbldap-installer moquist wrote..
[15:51] <joe___> maybe this is already set up here. what would be a quick way to find out?
[15:51] <joe___> i haven't been able to figure out the user situation of this network.
[15:51] <joe___> maybe that's it
[15:52] <cliebow__> you con look in /etc/pam.d..at the common* scripts..and see if ldap is enabled
[15:53] <joe___> I don't see anything about it.
[15:54] <cliebow__> some use nis..that is ancient these days
[15:54] <joe___> I want the simplest and most functional =)
[15:54] <joe___> is ldap really the best way to share users on a network?
[15:55] <cliebow__> i am no expert..if you are in a domain with windows users i feel it is the way to go
[19:20] <juliux> ogra, ping
[19:20] <laga> ogra, ping
[19:20] <juliux> hehe;) double ping
[19:20] <laga> let's unite our powers to summon him
[19:20] <juliux> ok
[19:20] <juliux> hm i also need riched
[19:21] <juliux> but he is allready offline
[19:21] <laga> you're on your own with him ;)
[19:21] <juliux> laga, where are you living in germany?
[19:22] <laga> saarland
[19:22] <juliux> that is france allready,)
[19:22] <juliux> ;)
[19:23] <laga> -.-
[19:23] <laga> still got a .de host :P
[19:23] <juliux> hehe
[19:25] <juliux> highvoltage, ping?
[19:31] <LaserJock> late meeting today?
[19:31] <LaserJock> or did I miss yet another one
[19:41] <stgraber> LaserJock: it was an early one
[19:41] <LaserJock> darn
[19:46] <juliux> RichEd, ping
[19:46] <juliux> hi LaserJock
[19:55] <juliux> what do you think about an edubuntu coffee mug?
[19:59] <highvoltage> juliux: pong
[19:59] <juliux> hi highvoltage
[19:59] <juliux> highvoltage, see question above;)
[19:59] <highvoltage> yay, still here, usually we miss each other :)
[19:59] <highvoltage> juliux: how could anyone say no to any kind of a *buntu mug!
[20:00] <juliux> highvoltage, you can;)
[20:00] <juliux> we(ubuntu-de) are thinking to produce some edubuntu mugs
[20:00] <highvoltage> oh, cool!
[20:00] <juliux> some == 300;)
[20:01] <highvoltage> that's a lot. will you be selling them?
[20:01]  * highvoltage would buy one
[20:01] <juliux> not selling, you get them at a gift for a donation;
[20:01] <highvoltage> (even 3, one for richard and jane too)
[20:01] <highvoltage> cool
[20:01] <juliux> target price is 5-6€
[20:02] <LaserJock> that'd be nice
[20:02] <juliux> shipping not included;)
[20:03] <highvoltage> juliux: when does production start!
[20:04] <juliux> if we will make them in the next two weeks
[20:04] <juliux> befor that i will check if we can "sell" 300 mugs;)
[20:07] <highvoltage> kewl
[20:08] <juliux> we will also make ubuntu coffee mugs
[20:10] <highvoltage> juliux: you can sign me up for them too!
[20:10] <juliux> cool
[20:10] <juliux> highvoltage, i will setup a special email address for mugs the next days
[20:11] <highvoltage> juliux: great, keep everyone up to date about it!
[20:14] <juliux> highvoltage, i will write something on edubuntu-users;)
[20:14] <highvoltage> juliux: yes, spread the word :)
[20:15] <juliux> hehe
[20:15] <juliux> at first i want check it with ogra and Riddell
[20:15] <juliux> and riched
[20:15] <highvoltage> I'm going to get some sleep now, goodnight juliux!
[20:16] <juliux> gn8 highvoltage
[23:24] <secretlondon> Hi
[23:25] <kgoetz> hi
[23:25] <secretlondon> When is the deadline for hardy edubuntu? The newest version of tuxpaint hasn't been synced as the debian dev hasn't packaged yet
[23:26] <secretlondon> we'd obviously love it to get into hardy as it's lts
[23:26] <kgoetz> i doubt anything thats yet unpackaged would make it into an LTS
[23:27] <secretlondon> well 0.9.17 is in gutsy, it just needs updating
[23:27] <secretlondon> i've made a ppa of the stamps but i'm aware we're in main..
[23:29] <crimsun> secretlondon: have you corresponded with the Debian maintainer(s)?
[23:29] <secretlondon> crimsun: we've tried to talk to him. he subscribes to our -dev mailing list but he's not responding
[23:29] <secretlondon> our lead dev has asked me to investigate
[23:37] <crimsun> secretlondon: what period has elapsed since you asked him?
[23:37] <crimsun> (sorry, busy across a few channels here)
[23:37] <secretlondon> crimsun: before xmas
[23:37] <secretlondon> there has been a bug since nov too
[23:37] <crimsun> secretlondon: ok, so across the holiday period, which I think is normal
[23:38] <secretlondon> is it worth me trying to package it, or should we chase him?
[23:38] <crimsun> ok, so we're talking about 0.9.18?
[23:38] <secretlondon> 0.9.18+CVS as there is a bug fix in CVS
[23:39] <secretlondon> we've released a tarball of 0.9.18CVS
[23:41] <crimsun> hmm, is there any way it could be repackaged as 0.9.18.1 or 0.9.18a or the like?
[23:41] <crimsun> otherwise we'd have to resort to date buffoonery in the version string
[23:41] <secretlondon> Bug #173293 is a bug asking for the new version
[23:41] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 173293 in tuxpaint "Tuxpaint 0.9.18 with new useful features was released at November - please update packages" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173293
[23:42] <secretlondon> crimsun: no problem. I'll ask bill to rename the tarball