[00:16] morning all :D === `6og is now known as Kamping_Kaiser [06:43] where can i find a list of the packages edubuntu has selected for its educational packages/games list? [06:49] good question, but you're going to prolly have to wait til USA/Europe daytime to get an answer [06:49] if it's not on the edubuntu site [11:59] === edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting = 2 mins time === [13:00] johnny: you said you were having trouble with megaraid crapping out..so not even reboot wiil work without input/output errors? === RichEd-2 is now known as RichEd [13:38] combining UDS and UES makes sense somehow, in as such that UDS has a nice "buzz" and that teachers, edu stakeholders, etc have a chance to meet the "geeks" that actually build the software? [13:38] but the UES should definitely have it's own programme [13:38] yes, especially now that edu needs have to be fulfilled by the distro team and not the edubuntu team alone [13:39] so its essential to have the right specs in place for the distro [13:39] triggered by the edu users [13:39] which means for me that two days in advance would make most sense [13:39] anyway, coffeee [13:41] also, I thought UDS in Seville was fantastic, since we visited the guadalinex school and management center... lots of non-edu ubunteros came along for that visit... [13:41] pips1 & ogra: sabdfl said that he had heard feedback from some teaching people that edubuntu etc. is sometimes driven too much by tech ideas, and not in consultation with teachers feedback & requirements [13:41] sure [13:42] so it may make sense (my general thinking) to have an edu summit which is more hadns on testing & workshop & feedback based [13:42] rather than us pitching success stories, or new tech features [13:43] trying to create a pool of people who will review our releases from their usage perspective, and not an install and maintain point of view [13:43] i am still trying to think this through [13:43] I think that's a problem with most software, but with edu it's particularly striking [13:43] RichEd: I like what you propose very much! [13:44] The success story pitching should be done at the equivalent of 'ubuntu live' con... [13:45] so I was thinking that we could "manage a summit: how to get maximum access to computing resources for your budget" [13:45] UES should be workshops indeed [13:45] (which is of interest to government funders etc.) [13:45] and open source is obviously the first step in cost saving [13:45] and base the hands on workshops on edubuntu ] [13:46] ... then get feedback from the participants on their experience, and also wow the windows users with the quality and scope of edubuntu apps & tols [13:47] If the summit is pitched as a maximal gearing of limited IT budget ... it may be easier for attendees to justify sponsorship by their own organisations [13:47] rather than attending a "product" summit [13:47] hmm, interesting [13:48] this needs more thinking / discussing... but I really need to attend work now :-/ [13:48] me too :) [13:48] keep the basic idea in mind ... we can chat again [13:48] anyway, I'll try to keep the tentative dates for UDS free in my schedule, just in case [13:50] I'll be doing the "technology tour" in silicon valley again, mid may, I hope that won't collide... [14:28] highvoltage: ping [14:29] highvoltage: I add two bug reports for the new theme: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/edubuntu-website/+bugs so we don't forget... [14:31] RichEd: If you mail me a news announcement about educonlinux, I'd be happy to post it on the edubuntu.org site [14:31] ok, got to go... cu! [14:31] Heya [14:52] heh sun acquired mysql [15:08] How can I tell my network name? I am trying to add a new workstation to a network [15:30] *$ [15:34] Is there a doc for not-so-thin-clients? [15:40] ?? [15:41] cliebow__ ---> Clients that have disks and software of their own but share permissions and have a network /home [15:47] joe___, so perhaps an ldapserver with nfs mounted homedir? [15:48] yes. [15:48] perhaps. [15:48] ldapserver.... hmm..... [15:48] is there an auto-config for this in edubuntu or is this customization? [15:49] there is an smbldap-installer moquist wrote.. [15:51] maybe this is already set up here. what would be a quick way to find out? [15:51] i haven't been able to figure out the user situation of this network. [15:51] maybe that's it [15:52] you con look in /etc/pam.d..at the common* scripts..and see if ldap is enabled [15:53] I don't see anything about it. [15:54] some use nis..that is ancient these days [15:54] I want the simplest and most functional =) [15:54] is ldap really the best way to share users on a network? [15:55] i am no expert..if you are in a domain with windows users i feel it is the way to go [19:20] ogra, ping [19:20] ogra, ping [19:20] hehe;) double ping [19:20] let's unite our powers to summon him [19:20] ok [19:20] hm i also need riched [19:21] but he is allready offline [19:21] you're on your own with him ;) [19:21] laga, where are you living in germany? [19:22] saarland [19:22] that is france allready,) [19:22] ;) [19:23] -.- [19:23] still got a .de host :P [19:23] hehe [19:25] highvoltage, ping? [19:31] late meeting today? [19:31] or did I miss yet another one [19:41] LaserJock: it was an early one [19:41] darn [19:46] RichEd, ping [19:46] hi LaserJock [19:55] what do you think about an edubuntu coffee mug? [19:59] juliux: pong [19:59] hi highvoltage [19:59] highvoltage, see question above;) [19:59] yay, still here, usually we miss each other :) [19:59] juliux: how could anyone say no to any kind of a *buntu mug! [20:00] highvoltage, you can;) [20:00] we(ubuntu-de) are thinking to produce some edubuntu mugs [20:00] oh, cool! [20:00] some == 300;) [20:01] that's a lot. will you be selling them? [20:01] * highvoltage would buy one [20:01] not selling, you get them at a gift for a donation; [20:01] (even 3, one for richard and jane too) [20:01] cool [20:01] target price is 5-6€ [20:02] that'd be nice [20:02] shipping not included;) [20:03] juliux: when does production start! [20:04] if we will make them in the next two weeks [20:04] befor that i will check if we can "sell" 300 mugs;) [20:07] kewl [20:08] we will also make ubuntu coffee mugs [20:10] juliux: you can sign me up for them too! [20:10] cool [20:10] highvoltage, i will setup a special email address for mugs the next days [20:11] juliux: great, keep everyone up to date about it! [20:14] highvoltage, i will write something on edubuntu-users;) [20:14] juliux: yes, spread the word :) [20:15] hehe [20:15] at first i want check it with ogra and Riddell [20:15] and riched [20:15] I'm going to get some sleep now, goodnight juliux! [20:16] gn8 highvoltage === Bambi_BOFH is now known as kgoetz [23:24] Hi [23:25] hi [23:25] When is the deadline for hardy edubuntu? The newest version of tuxpaint hasn't been synced as the debian dev hasn't packaged yet [23:26] we'd obviously love it to get into hardy as it's lts [23:26] i doubt anything thats yet unpackaged would make it into an LTS [23:27] well 0.9.17 is in gutsy, it just needs updating [23:27] i've made a ppa of the stamps but i'm aware we're in main.. [23:29] secretlondon: have you corresponded with the Debian maintainer(s)? [23:29] crimsun: we've tried to talk to him. he subscribes to our -dev mailing list but he's not responding [23:29] our lead dev has asked me to investigate [23:37] secretlondon: what period has elapsed since you asked him? [23:37] (sorry, busy across a few channels here) [23:37] crimsun: before xmas [23:37] there has been a bug since nov too [23:37] secretlondon: ok, so across the holiday period, which I think is normal [23:38] is it worth me trying to package it, or should we chase him? [23:38] ok, so we're talking about 0.9.18? [23:38] 0.9.18+CVS as there is a bug fix in CVS [23:39] we've released a tarball of 0.9.18CVS [23:41] hmm, is there any way it could be repackaged as 0.9.18.1 or 0.9.18a or the like? [23:41] otherwise we'd have to resort to date buffoonery in the version string [23:41] Bug #173293 is a bug asking for the new version [23:41] Launchpad bug 173293 in tuxpaint "Tuxpaint 0.9.18 with new useful features was released at November - please update packages" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173293 [23:42] crimsun: no problem. I'll ask bill to rename the tarball