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ubotuNew bug: #183372 in launchpad "Mailman's qrunner doesn't provide any way to be monitored" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18337200:00
rxKaffeehi guys, I've been browsing the launchpad.net site, considering moving my project into there... but I need forum and mailing list, are either of these provided?00:12
rxKaffeeI can't seem to locate either on the site00:12
RinchenrxKaffee, mailing lists will be coming soon. :-)00:14
Rinchenain't that right barry? :-)00:14
rxKaffeeno plans for forums?00:15
RinchenLaunchpad specific, no.  00:15
rxKaffeeforum software is such a hastle to manage :/00:15
RinchenThe forums requests we've gotten so far have been solved with the Ubuntu Forums00:16
Rinchenyeah, it is :-)00:16
rxKaffeejust about a full time job watching out that ya forum doesn't get pwned00:16
rxKaffeeubuntu forums host non-ubuntu projects?00:16
Rinchentypically no but they have some special categories00:16
rxKaffeeah ok00:17
rxKaffeeany eta on the mail lists?00:17
RinchenThey are in internal testing 00:17
Rinchenso, soon :-)00:17
Rincheni.e. real code vs promise-ware00:17
rxKaffeeheh00:17
rxKaffeealrighty, thanks for the infs Rinchen 00:18
RinchenGlad to help.00:18
RinchenYou could create a project now and test it out while you wait for the additional features00:18
Rinchensetup code imports and the like00:18
ManfreI am trying to set up a project and can't figure out how to remove a series and branch I created while testing00:32
Manfrecan anyone point me to information on how this can be done?00:32
RinchenManfre, you need an admin to remove the series I believe.  00:35
* Rinchen hunts around00:35
RinchenManfre, yeah, best to file a question about that against the Launchpad project00:36
Manfreok..thanks00:37
RinchenManfre, for branches we don't usually remove them. We just set the appropriate status00:37
Rinchenhowever you can disassociate the branch from the project and it will only appear in your listing00:37
Rincheni.e. in the CODE tab under your account00:38
Manfreok00:38
Rinchenand then you can set the appropriate status.00:38
Manfredoes that work with series too?00:38
RinchenYou can edit the series to remove the working branch I believe00:39
Manfreyeah, i have no branches on a series and I'm wondering if it is possible to remove the series from the list on the project page00:39
RinchenI have that same problem too. Unlike a milestone, you can't. 00:40
RinchenYou can rename it though00:40
RinchenA milestone you can mark inactive00:40
Manfreokay..i have them renamed and i guess i can reuse them at a later date00:41
Rinchenor you can submit a question and someone with admin access will remove00:41
Rinchenit00:41
* Rinchen has tried hard not to begin admin access. :-)00:42
Rinchens/begin/be given/00:42
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ubotuNew bug: #183399 in launchpad "Launchpad repeat actions in "Show karma summary"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18339901:55
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pooliempt: bug colors, yay!02:55
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iblastoffhm when you're choosing assignee, drafter, approver etc, is there anyway to have a list of team members show up instead of just a search box?07:16
somerville32iblastoff, not atm07:16
somerville32iblastoff, Maybe you should file a bug :)07:16
iblastoffalso, is there a way to move a blueprint from say a branch to another branch?07:25
iblastoffseems like i can only move them to a completely different project07:25
somerville32I think you just change the goal07:38
iblastoffahh i see thanks07:50
ubotuNew bug: #183451 in launchpad-bazaar "Create a branch widget that will create a mirrored branch or refer to an existing branch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18345107:50
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carlosmorning08:12
Hobbseemorning carlos 08:12
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carlosHobbsee: hey, how's going?08:25
Hobbseecarlos: reasonably well.  pondering taking a break from ubuntu though08:25
somerville32Hobbsee, :O08:26
carlosI hope it's just to focus in other more urgent tasks instead of something wrong in Ubuntu side...08:26
Hobbseecarlos: frustration with ubuntu and launchpad, i'm afraid.08:26
Hobbseemaybe to do and do some stuff on debian eventually.  i'm not sure.08:27
carlosI'm sorry to hear that... although keep working on debian is still a good thing08:28
* Hobbsee has the problem that some of the stuff she wants access to is slowly getting implemented in launchpad, but it's still quite buggy, and the bugs never seem to end up getting fixed, because of the few people who use the features in question.08:29
Hobbseeand so it gets bumped down as other (more important, due to more people) stuff gets implemented first.08:29
carlosunfortunately, that's the problem with limited resources :-(08:30
Hobbseewhich leads to varying levels of frustration, and the problem of not being able to do certain tasks that one would like to be doing, which suggests looking at doing stuff elsewhere.08:30
Hobbseeyeah well.  there are varying solutions to that.08:31
Hobbseei can understand why the stuff happens, so, the question that i'm pondering is what do i do about it08:31
Hobbseewhich, if i want to actually do some of the stuff, involves leaving ubuntu.08:32
carlosWell, I'm not sure whether I could help here but you should take the best decision for yourself, although if it's leaving Ubuntu, we will miss you ;-)08:36
carlosHobbsee: btw, which bugs are the ones that affect you?08:37
Hobbseecarlos: it's mainly ppa/soyuz stuff.08:37
Hobbseeit's archive-admin based, in particular08:37
carlosHobbsee: oh, I thought it was more related with bugs interface...08:38
Hobbseecarlos: no, that works reasonably well enough.  bryce even made a nice script for adding tags while filing bugs - i've not used it yet though08:39
carlosHobbsee: the soyuz team was looking for a new developer to handle the workload and I think they are going to get it soon, so maybe the situation would improve08:40
carlosHobbsee: did you talk with mrevell about this?08:40
Hobbseecarlos: somewhat, yes08:41
Hobbseecarlos: the problem is a manpower problem, nto undersatnding what the problem is.  therefore, there's not much use.08:45
carloswell, mrevell's job is not just to understand the problem but to help you, the community, to get it solved08:47
carlosof course, if is possible08:47
mptGooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!09:01
rjekHow long do CVS imports to launchpad generally take?  wxLua's been going for the best part of 24 hours now.09:33
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Nafallohttp://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-security/Release: Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)09:43
Nafallohttp://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release: Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)09:43
Nafallohttp://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-updates/Release: Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)09:43
Nafallosoyuz issue?09:43
BjornTNafallo: when do you get that error?10:00
NafalloBjornT: apt-get update :-/10:02
HobbseeNafallo: is it transient?10:02
NafalloHobbsee: as in only occuring once? no, reproducable10:03
bigjoolsit's fine here10:03
bigjoolsNafallo: are you behind a transparent proxy?10:04
bigjoolsor any proxy10:04
Nafallono, only nat10:04
Nafalloremoving the /var/lib/apt/lists didn't help10:05
bigjoolsweird - try removing the "gb." from your sources.lists entries10:05
bigjoolsalso try wget on the files to see if they are corrupted10:05
Nafallodidn't help10:07
bigjoolsI just hit both of those archives and they're fine10:07
bigjoolshmm what is "web" ?10:08
HobbseeNafallo: take the "web" out of your /etc/apt/sources.list :)10:09
Nafallohmm10:10
HobbseeNafallo: ie, deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted web --> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted10:10
Nafallohow the HELL did that end up in there?10:10
Hobbseesame for security.10:10
Nafalloand why didn't I check that? :-P10:10
HobbseeNafallo: NFI, but it happened to someone in october, too10:10
HobbseeNafallo: i have no idea why you didn't JFGI.10:10
Nafallohehe10:10
Hobbsee(that's how i found it)10:10
Hobbseebigjools: problem solved :)10:11
bigjoolsif only I'd read the actual error :)10:12
Hobbseewell, that tends to help, yes10:12
Nafallosame here ;-)10:14
NafalloI blame update-manager anyway.10:14
NafalloI'm not sure why, but I haven't touched the thing :-P10:15
albertophi all!10:29
albertopI've just send a mail to replay to a bug report. NNNN@bugs.launchpad.net10:30
albertopWhy the attachment (the error log) was not included into the bug report available online?10:31
Hobbseealbertop: did you sign it?10:31
albertopno10:32
Hobbseethat's why, then.10:32
Hobbseeyou need to gpg sign it10:33
* Hobbsee curses blinken, and tries again10:33
albertopok. can I modify the incomplete bug report?10:34
albertopI have to include the log10:34
geserHobbsee: does attaching per email work now? last I heard was that it doesn't work10:34
Hobbseegeser: no idea10:35
Hobbseealbertop: if you need to add attachments, i think i'ts still required to do it by the web UI10:35
albertopok. so it's better to add a comment with the attachment, right?10:36
kikogood morning10:36
Hobbseeyeah10:37
Hobbseemorning kiko 10:37
kikoHobbsee!10:37
Hobbseekiko!10:37
Hobbseekiko: how goes it?10:37
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ubotuNew bug: #183490 in launchpad "Nexenta "Uses Launchpad for: Nothing", but that's untrue" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18349012:10
ubotuNew bug: #183491 in rosetta "Don't create empty is_imported TranslationMessages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18349112:10
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rjekDoes anybody know how long CVS imports to launchpad take?  The wxLua one's been running for over a day, I think.13:07
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ubotuNew bug: #183531 in rosetta "Translation contributor shown as a Launchpad user when they're not" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18353114:40
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ubotuNew bug: #183540 in rosetta "Import fails with "iterable argument required"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18354015:31
Manfrebefore I start messing around and break something...i have a vcs import set for my series "trunk", now when I create a branch, I would select Hosted and enter the http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/... url?15:32
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RinchenBug #17853618:11
ubotuLaunchpad bug 178536 in sbuild "Preinstalled Build-Depends not properly detected" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17853618:11
ubotuNew bug: #183584 in malone "Give karma for assigning bugs to packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18358418:15
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UnNaturalHighBug #18358818:26
ubotuLaunchpad bug 183588 in linux "[hardy] linux-image-2.6.24-4-generic - spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7 - Driver b43 - Driver sis900" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18358818:26
dantalizingdoes PPA automagically build source packages that are uploaded to produce binaries?19:29
dantalizinghey statik, hows it going?19:29
statikdantalizing: hi there. yes, a PPA mean you can upload a source package and it gets built into binary packages for different platforms19:31
dantalizingstatik: why dont we see in in -fl anymore?19:32
statikdantalizing: forgot to /join, I guess19:32
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DarkMageZhey, i'm getting a 404 on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/evolution/2.21.4-0ubuntu1/+files/evolution_2.21.4-0ubuntu1.diff.gz :( it's a link on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/2.21.4-0ubuntu121:48
RinchenDarkMageZ, sure enough, that file doesn't exist but appears on the download page21:56
DarkMageZit existed yesterday21:57
Rinchenhmm.  I don't know enough about this page (+source) to know why. But I'm going to ask about it because I'm interested.21:58
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RinchenDarkMageZ, I believe they are automatically built up when the build runs but it's not my area of expertise. I've asked the question. If you're on tomorrow, give me a ping.22:02
the_belgainhi there - i've got a quick question about PPAa23:02
the_belgaini'm trying to upload packages of the same software for hardy and gutsy, but when i try and upload the second one it gets rejected23:03
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the_belgaini get the following error: MD5 sum of uploaded file does not match existing file in archive23:10
somerville32the_belgain, Do you understand that error?23:12
the_belgaini understand what it's saying - but the uploaded file *should* be different, as the gutsy version has some differences with the hardy one?23:13
somerville32Right but the original tarball should be the same if it is the same version23:14
the_belgaini've just differed them on my box and they are the same though23:15
stdinit's because you need to give it a different release number than the one you already uploaded23:16
stdinsomething like: <package>_<version>-<release>~gutsy123:16
the_belgaini've specified <use>/ubuntu/gutsy as the upload dir, and specified gutsy as the distribution in debian/changelog23:17
the_belgainit needs a different version number too?23:17
the_belgainhow come? is that just a limitation of PPA?23:17
stdindoesn't matter where you upload, it doesn't upload directly to the archive23:17
stdinit's because you only have one /pool/ so the package would have the same file name for both releases23:18
the_belgainright - so it just looks at the dist in the debian/changelog to determine what archive to put it into?23:18
stdinyes23:18
the_belgainok, thanks23:18
stdinyou already uploaded the .dsc and .diff.gz with the same names, so LP things something strange is happening if they don't match23:19
rjekHow long do CVS imports to Launchpad take?  wxLua's been going for the best part of 48 hours.23:21
somerville32rjek, link?23:21
the_belgainok, that's worked thanks23:27
the_belgaindo the builds take a long time to happen?23:27
somerville32depends on the load23:27
rjeksomerville32: http://launchpad.net/wxlua/trunk23:28
somerville32rjek, hmm.. maybe you didn't set it up correctly.23:29
somerville32I don't find it does very good error checking23:29
rjekSurely if I had not set it up correctly, the moderator would have noticed?23:31
somerville32rjek, What moderator? :P23:38
elmorjek: I don't think anyone's around right now, who'd know, you might be better of asking a question in the answer tracker on the 'Launchpad' project/product23:41
rjeksomerville32: The one it says will check it before doing a test import :-p23:45
rjekelmo: I'll try that, thanks.23:45
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