/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/01/16/#ubuntu-bugs.txt

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ubotuNew bug: #183381 in kdebase-kde4 (universe) "konqueror-kde4 browsing in kde 3.5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18338100:25
ubotuNew bug: #183382 in claws-mail (universe) "[MoM SYNC] claws-mail 3.2.0-2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18338200:31
ubotuNew bug: #183384 in octave2.9 (universe) "[hardy] octave 3.0 is out" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18338400:45
ubotuNew bug: #183385 in python-wsgiref (universe) "Please remove python-wsgiref from Hardy" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18338500:56
ubotuNew bug: #183386 in firefox (main) "instalado Flashplayer 9 no carga bien los graficos y links en flash de http://www.telmex.com/mx/" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18338600:56
ubotuNew bug: #183388 in ubuntu "gutsygibbon upgrade tool unable to fetch wine/lowvoice" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18338801:11
ubotuNew bug: #183389 in syslog-ng (universe) "[SECURITY] CVE-2007-6437 prone to denial of service attack" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18338901:15
ubotuNew bug: #183390 in kdenetwork-kde4 (universe) "Kopete in KDE4 not shows any contact photo" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18339001:20
ubotuNew bug: #183392 in cupsys (main) "[gutsy] cupsys does not start after avahi upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18339201:30
ubotuNew bug: #183397 in ubuntu ""system restart required" while running as liveCD" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18339701:46
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ubotuNew bug: #183402 in deluge-torrent (universe) "deluge crashed with TypeError in show() (dup-of: 183150)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18340202:01
greg-glive cds don't check for package upgrades right?02:06
greg-g(as in you shouldn't get a message about there being updates to Ubuntu)02:07
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ubotuNew bug: #183405 in ubuntu "no "low battery" warning running live CD" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18340502:11
ubotuNew bug: #183407 in karrigell (universe) "package karrigell-demo 2.3.3-1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18340702:15
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=== bdmurray changed the topic of #ubuntu-bugs to: Hug Day! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20080116 | Ubuntu BugSquad | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs | Documentation: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | If you have been triaging bugs for a while, please apply to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugcontrol/ -http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugsquad
ubotuNew bug: #183409 in ubuntu "kde-guidance-powermanager does not initiate suspend" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18340902:55
* pochu hugs bdmurray and goes to bed :)02:55
* bdmurray hugs pochu02:56
pochubddebian: btw my bugsquad membership is about to expire :)02:56
bdmurraypochu: I thought I fixed that this morning02:56
pochuMaybe. I didn't receive a message, but let me have a look02:56
pochuI thought launchpad would mail me if my membership was renewed02:57
ubotuNew bug: #183408 in startupmanager "startup manager failure in HH 3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18340802:57
bdmurrayI'm double checking02:57
pochubdmurray: looks like, thanks!02:58
bdmurrayokay cool02:59
ubotuNew bug: #183410 in ubuntu "Vertical dot lines appears on the screen near the end of the live cd installation process (Weybridge)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18341003:10
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ubotuNew bug: #183411 in esound (main) "libesd leaks pipe file descriptors" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18341103:16
ubotuNew bug: #183413 in cryptsetup (main) "cryptsetup luksFormat can't find key file with a period in name" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18341303:26
ubotuNew bug: #183415 in koffice2 (universe) "koffice 2 alpha 6 keyboard shortcut ctrl-shift-f doesn't go to fullscreen." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18341503:41
ubotuNew bug: #183416 in ubuntu "screen is enlarged very much when I enable my graphics card(NVDIA card)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18341603:45
ubotuNew bug: #183418 in amavisd-new (universe) "MIR for amavisd-new" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18341804:11
ubotuNew bug: #183420 in ubuntu "cann't launch processes list in Hardy Heron" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18342004:25
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ubotuNew bug: #183424 in gtkpod (universe) "Adding multiple songs from a CIFS share has resulted in random MP3 splicing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18342404:45
ubotuNew bug: #183425 in firefox-3.0 (universe) "invalid SSL certificate page provides no way to trust the site certificate" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18342505:01
ubotuNew bug: #183426 in ubiquity (main) "[hardy] alpha-3: i386 desktop cd - partition gui hangs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18342605:25
ubotuNew bug: #183427 in rhythmbox (main) "Rhythmbox visualization button restarts computer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18342705:35
ubotuNew bug: #183428 in ubuntu "Boot fails with 2.6.24-4 with initramfs error on hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18342805:41
ubotuNew bug: #183430 in ubuntu "firefox freezing after latest hardy updates" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18343005:46
ubotuNew bug: #183431 in ubuntu "bible time 1.6.4 crashes " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18343106:05
ubotuNew bug: #183434 in openoffice.org-l10n (main) "ooo-ln10-de rejects to be installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18343406:31
ubotuNew bug: #183435 in kde4-style-qtcurve (universe) "Upgrade qtcurve packages to 0.55.2" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18343506:31
ubotuNew bug: #183436 in ubuntu "nautilus-debug-log.txt appears on log-in and /home folders on desktop even after gconf-editor" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18343606:41
ubotuNew bug: #183437 in ubuntu "Commands preceded by a pipe *and* a space("| ") are not found" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18343706:41
ubotuNew bug: #183439 in kde4libs (universe) "klauncher crashed with SIGSEGV in <signal handler called>() (dup-of: 141418)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18343906:41
Hirvinen_(Just posted "Commands preceded by a pipe *and* a space("| ") are not found" https://launchpad.net/bugs/183437 ). I'll be happy to try help solving it, if anybody has ideas as to where to start looking.06:47
ubotuLaunchpad bug 183437 in ubuntu "Commands preceded by a pipe *and* a space("| ") are not found" [Undecided,New]06:47
ubotuNew bug: #183441 in bluetooth-alsa (universe) "SCO patch not in kernel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18344106:55
ubotuNew bug: #183443 in totem (main) "Only beginning of certain mp3s are played" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18344307:00
ubotuNew bug: #183444 in ubuntu "knotify crashed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18344407:21
ubotuNew bug: #183445 in linux-meta (main) "brightness doesn't work properly when thinkpad_acpi is compiled as module" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18344507:21
ubotuNew bug: #183446 in mysql-query-browser "mysql-query-browser doesn't appear after connection is made" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18344607:31
ubotuNew bug: #183447 in rhythmbox (main) "rhythmbox should understand .wpl playlists (SMIL format)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18344707:35
ubotuNew bug: #183448 in ubuntu "no warning when saving in a place that survives a restart normally, but now doesn't as you're running the liveCD" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18344807:40
ubotuNew bug: #183449 in ubuntu "CD re-spinning required while running liveCD on machine with loads of memory" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18344907:45
ubotuNew bug: #183450 in ubuntu "system crashes after 3-8 minutes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18345007:45
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parthanbug 18344308:20
ubotuLaunchpad bug 183443 in totem "Only beginning of certain mp3s are played" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18344308:20
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parthanwill i be able to attach the mp3 file with which we can reproduce the bug in totem? if yes, how?08:26
ubotuNew bug: #183453 in avahi (main) "avahi doesn't work until manually restarted" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18345308:35
ubotuNew bug: #183455 in empathy (universe) "Hardy's version of empathy is showing off-line contacts before on-line ones." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18345509:01
ubotuNew bug: #183456 in awesfx (universe) "Trying to load a sf2 file with asfxload returns "sfxload: no memory left" " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18345609:19
ubotuNew bug: #183457 in avahi (main) "printing stops working after avahi update to 0.6.20-2ubuntu3.1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18345709:25
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ubotuNew bug: #183458 in inkscape (main) "reproducible: inkscape crashes when undoing empty text field" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18345809:37
ubotuNew bug: #183460 in ubuntu "Gutsy cannot connect via a proxy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18346009:46
ubotuNew bug: #183461 in ubuntu "ksoftirqd/1 using 50% CPU or above" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18346110:01
ubotuNew bug: #183463 in evolution (main) "duplicate anniversary in calendar" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18346310:10
parthanwhat do you do when you find a bug looks more like a feature request :s10:13
ubotuNew bug: #183464 in transmission (main) "Increase visual integration with gnome" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18346410:15
ubotuNew bug: #183467 in transmission (main) "Save some space in the GUI" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18346710:21
ubotuNew bug: #183468 in rsync (main) "rsync aborts because of glibc free(): invalid pointer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18346810:26
ubotuNew bug: #183469 in sysstat (universe) "main inclusion report" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18346910:26
ubotuNew bug: #183471 in telepathy-salut (universe) "Please sync telepathy-salut 0.2.0-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18347110:26
fishorparthan: if you have permission, set Importace = Wishlist10:32
Kirrusparthan, if you don't have permission, set it as "confirmed", assign it to the correct team, and let them / the maintainers handle it10:38
parthanfishor, Kirrus thanks :)10:43
parthanthere is a bug regarding live cd, which package should i put it under?10:45
fishorto the buggy application10:47
parthanok10:47
ubotuNew bug: #183478 in openoffice.org (main) "package openoffice.org-base-core None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/openoffice.org-base-core.list] failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libdba680lx.so', which is also in package openoffice.org-core" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18347810:47
ubotuNew bug: #183476 in kdebase (main) "can't configure newly created panels" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18347610:49
ubotuNew bug: #183477 in ubuntu "Byte compression error in update manager(Based on question #22248)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18347710:49
ubotuNew bug: #183470 in openoffice.org (main) ""send document as email open office document" problem when document name is greek the attachment name is rubish" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18347010:50
ubotuNew bug: #183472 in ubuntu "while on AC "battery fully loaded" repetitively shown" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18347210:50
ubotuNew bug: #183473 in transmission (main) "show thumbnails next to torrents" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18347310:50
ubotuNew bug: #183474 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 "iwl4965 can't reconnect if AP is lost and then comes back" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18347410:50
ubotuNew bug: #183475 in pitivi (universe) "Please upgrade to 0.11.1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18347510:50
* stelt reported 6 bugs, but as the installer is one of them, there might not come more :-(11:09
ubotuNew bug: #183479 in debian-installer (main) "installer hangs on partitioning" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18347911:11
ubotuNew bug: #183480 in ubuntu "Xubuntu 7.10: command "xflock4" fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18348011:11
ubotuNew bug: #183440 in nautilus "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in nautilus_file_get_activation_uri()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18344011:20
ubotuNew bug: #183422 in eog (main) "eog crashed with signal 7 in g_closure_invoke()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18342211:27
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ubotuNew bug: #183483 in evolution (main) "From line in message list does not handle embedded encoding" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18348311:46
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ubotuNew bug: #183484 in update-manager (main) "Cannot upgrade from Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18348411:56
ubotuNew bug: #183485 in kvm (universe) "kvm can not boot Ubuntu guest" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18348511:56
ubotuNew bug: #183486 in gnome-screensaver (main) "gnome-screensaver locks up randomly when unlocking screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18348612:01
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ubotuNew bug: #183487 in gnome-power-manager (main) "package gnome-power-manager 2.21.1-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 134" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18348712:08
ubotuNew bug: #183488 in transmission (main) "ditch the "status bar", move that info to the real status bar" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18348812:08
ubotuNew bug: #183489 in ubuntu "command "xfce4-popup-menu" opens the wrong popup menu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18348912:08
ubotuNew bug: #183492 in ubuntu "Include Komodo Edit in repositories" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18349212:25
parthantuxmaniac,12:27
ubotuNew bug: #183493 in ubuntu "Xubuntu 7.10 German translation error / resp. typo" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18349312:31
exodosgutsy kernel was upgraded to version 2.6.22-14.46, but Packages file in main/debian-installer/binary-i386/ haven't been updated. Can anyone take care of this?12:35
exodosI mean 2.6.22-14.4712:35
ubotuNew bug: #183494 in gksu (main) "gksudo: nepřesný překlad" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18349412:35
ubotuNew bug: #183495 in openbios-sparc (universe) "[FTBFS] openbios-sparc (1.0~alpha2+20070816-1) fails to build in hardy" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18349512:40
ubotuNew bug: #183496 in kdebase-kde4 (universe) "toolbar misbehavour konqueror kde4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18349612:40
ubotuNew bug: #183497 in transmission (main) "implement libnotify support" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18349712:45
ubotuNew bug: #183498 in pcsc-lite (universe) "pscsd doesn't start anymore " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18349812:45
ubotuNew bug: #183500 in transmission (main) "detect when a downloaded torrent has been removed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18350012:54
ubotuNew bug: #183501 in transmission (main) "some way to tell finished torrents from unfinished ones" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18350112:54
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ubotuNew bug: #183507 in transmission (main) "remove a torrent using the delete key" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18350713:05
ubotuNew bug: #183502 in ubuntu "[hardy] Intel graphics (965) slowed down" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18350213:06
ubotuNew bug: #183505 in ubuntu "screensaver / monitor off not stopped by touchpad" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18350513:06
ubotuNew bug: #183506 in transmission (main) "offer to delete the file when you remove a torrent" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18350613:06
ubotuNew bug: #160861 in ubuntustudio "DVD should be recognized as upgrade volume" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/16086113:07
ubotuNew bug: #183396 in libvisual-plugins (universe) "totem crashed with SIGSEGV in render_blur()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18339613:08
ubotuNew bug: #183508 in ubuntu "update tools stop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18350813:10
ubotuNew bug: #183511 in xkeyboard-config (main) "New keyboard layout – LEKP" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18351113:24
ubotuNew bug: #183499 in evolution "evolution crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18349913:26
ubotuNew bug: #183512 in update-manager (main) "update-manager crash with parse error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18351213:26
ubotuNew bug: #183513 in openafs (universe) "openafs sysctl table check on amd64, 2.6.24" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18351313:31
ubotuNew bug: #183514 in seahorse (universe) "[hardy] seahorse agent no longer asks for the passphrase" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18351413:36
ubotuNew bug: #183515 in qucs (universe) "[SYNC REQUEST] qucs 0.0.13-1 from Debian Unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18351513:40
ubotuNew bug: #183509 in seahorse (universe) "seahorse crashed with SIGSEGV in glade_xml_get_widget()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18350913:41
ubotuNew bug: #183517 in ubuntu "Hard Heron Alpha three unable to boot in Virtual PC 2007" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18351713:49
Hobbseedebian bug 45184813:50
ubotuDebian bug 451848 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "doesn't pick right BACKLIGHT_CONTROL for p7120 laptop" [Normal,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/45184813:50
ubotuNew bug: #183519 in update-manager (main) "update-mangager won't upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18351914:00
ubotuNew bug: #183520 in telepathy-mission-control (universe) "Please sync telepathy-mission-control 4.55-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18352014:00
ubotuNew bug: #179001 in gnome-screensaver (main) "slideshow crashed with SIGSEGV in gdk_gc_set_clip_rectangle()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17900114:01
ubotuNew bug: #183521 in gnome-terminal (main) "Hardy Heron gnome terminal missing menu bar" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18352114:06
ubotuNew bug: #183523 in evolution (main) "tasks that recur on completion" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18352314:16
ubotuNew bug: #183527 in clamtk (universe) "no virus definition files in clamtk" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18352714:30
ubotuNew bug: #181324 in openoffice.org (main) "Open office crashes with Crux Theme" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18132414:31
bddebianBoo14:31
ubotuNew bug: #183529 in junit (main) "Please sync latest version from Debian" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18352914:35
ubotuNew bug: #183534 in gnome-panel (main) "'Context menu > Close' from a window selector (bottom panel) doesn't close all apps" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18353414:56
rbs-titoIs anyone here?15:02
rbs-titoIf I want to apply to QA, should I create a portfolio on my wiki page, or do they just check my recent activity?15:03
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persiarbs-tito: I'd recommend tracking on your wiki anyway, especially the bugs where you think you did an especially good job.  Once the count gets high, it's hard to tell the difference between an easy one and a more involved one from the automated reports.15:05
persiarbs-tito: On the other hand, the process was different when I joined, so my advice might not be 100% correct.15:05
ubotuNew bug: #183533 in evolution (main) "evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_is_a() (dup-of: 177189)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18353315:06
ubotuNew bug: #183536 in libapache2-mod-auth-openid (universe) "[Sync request] Please sync libapache2-mod-auth-openid 0.1-5 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18353615:06
hggdhrbs-tito: best one to answer is bdmurray, I think15:06
hggdhbut keep a list of your "best" bugs, it should be asked for15:07
rbs-titoOK15:07
rbs-titoI'll have to dig it up15:08
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ubotuNew bug: #183537 in totem (main) "win codec 9 " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18353715:21
ubotuNew bug: #183538 in nautilus (main) "Menus and buttons doesn't works" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18353815:21
rbs-titoWhat other information do I need for bug 180423?15:31
ubotuLaunchpad bug 180423 in ubuntu "Keyboard not functioning in X" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18042315:31
ubotuNew bug: #183543 in gnome-games (main) "tali crashes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18354315:36
persiarbs-tito: It'd be interesting to know if the keyboard works in the console: helps to differentiate xinput issues from kernel issues.15:36
bdmurraypersia: I think he fell off15:37
persiabddebian: I'm certain of it.  My habit is to answer anyway, in case the information is useful to anyone else.  Is that discouraged here?15:37
bdmurraypersia: No, not all all.15:37
persiabdmurray: Thanks (and sorry for the nick collision) ;)15:38
bddebianYeah, rat bastard! ;-P15:39
* persia attempts to avoid parallel conversations with bd* in the future.15:40
bdmurrayrbs-tito: for applying to the bug control team a portfolio, of 5 bugs, is ideal15:42
rbs-titobdmurray: Thank you15:42
bdmurrayrbs-tito: no problem - there is information about it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl15:43
ubotuNew bug: #183544 in mathomatic (universe) "Please sync mathomatic 12.7.7-1  (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18354415:44
persiarbs-tito: You're back: about the keyboard issue: might want to check if it works in console to differentiate an X bug from a kernel bug.15:45
rbs-titopersia: Good point15:45
bdmurrayrbs-tito: regarding the keyboard bug testing with Hardy would be interesting too.15:45
ubotuNew bug: #183545 in ubuntu "Failed to iniciate with kernels: 2.6.24.2 / 2.6.24.3 / 2.6.24.4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18354515:46
rbs-titobdmurray: How's he going to get to a command line from the live cd?15:47
rbs-tito** / persia15:47
bdmurrayCtrl+Alt+F1 would work if the keyboard worked.  Alternatively booting into single user mode.15:48
persiaThat's trickier.  Does ctrl-alt-f2 not work?  I thought there were 4 VTs enabled from the liveCD.15:48
rbs-titoThe keyboard doesn't work though :S15:48
rbs-titopersia: No keyboard, and that doesn't quit X it just suspends it15:48
persiarbs-tito: single-user then.15:49
rbs-titopersia: From th ctrl alt f2, you can switch back to X with ctrl alt f715:49
rbs-titoFrom a GRUB prompt?15:49
steltIn the last few days i've reported about a dozen bugs, but some are not in my list. how come?15:50
bdmurrayrbs-tito: edit the kernel boot options, probably removing quit and splash and adding single15:51
rbs-titook15:51
rbs-titoquiet is twice in them right?15:51
bdmurrayI don't think so on the LiveCD15:52
* rbs-tito can't remember the livecd15:53
rbs-titoDo you just type the commands into the bottom?15:53
bdmurrayrbs-tito: I'll check if you can wait a minute15:53
rbs-titobdmurray: I can do it, I have a hardy alpha 2 cd15:54
rbs-titoIt hasn't changed right?15:54
bdmurrayNo, that bit won't.15:54
rbs-titook15:54
rbs-titobe back soon15:54
rbs-titoYou press f615:57
rbs-titoand it is only listed once15:57
ubotuNew bug: #183541 in gnome-applets (main) "gweather-applet-2 crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_tree_model_get_valist()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18354116:01
ubotuNew bug: #183546 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] speedtouch 110 pcmcia wifi card driver" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18354616:01
ubotuNew bug: #183547 in inkscape (main) "Inkscape sould be linked against gtkspell" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18354716:01
rbs-titobug 183546 is asking to package non gpl, possibly copyright, code16:03
ubotuLaunchpad bug 183546 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] speedtouch 110 pcmcia wifi card driver" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18354616:03
ubotuNew bug: #183548 in mscore (universe) "No package in repositories" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18354816:05
ubotuNew bug: #183549 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] eduke32" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18354916:05
ubotuNew bug: #183550 in ubuntu "kguitar need kdebase-bin but this is not a dependence" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18355016:05
bdmurrayrbs-tito: it might be worth documenting boot options on the live cd16:05
rbs-titobdmurray: On the wiki?16:06
bdmurrayrbs-tito: right, I'm not quite sure where it would fit well though16:06
bdmurraymaybe DebuggingLiveCD ?16:06
ubotuNew bug: #183551 in ubuntu "[New Package Sync] easy-spice 0.6.8-1  from Debian Unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18355116:16
ubotuNew bug: #183552 in supercollider (universe) "update to version 3.1.1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18355216:16
ubotuNew bug: #183554 in gurlchecker (universe) "Please sync gurlchecker 0.10.2-1  (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18355416:16
ubotuNew bug: #183553 in kguitar (universe) "kguitar crash when you open gp3 (guitarpro) file." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18355316:21
ubotuNew bug: #183555 in terminator (universe) "README file has unclear shorcuts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18355516:21
ubotuNew bug: #183556 in ubuntu "gnome-appearanc stais running after closing window " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18355616:31
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ubotuNew bug: #183557 in ubuntu "10.7 LiveCD Installation :: Status Window Becomes Minimized/Unusable if ever "X-ed Out"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18355716:36
ubotuNew bug: #183561 in gnome-applets (main) "Failed to load Localtions XML in Weather Report" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18356116:40
ubotuNew bug: #183562 in kguitar (universe) "tuxguitar need package sun-java6-jre but this is not installed automatically" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18356216:45
IuliHi all. One simple question...16:49
IuliWhat should we do when someone reports a bug without useful information and they don't answer to our requests? That is after we set the bug to Incomplete and assign the bug to us. I know that we should set the status to Invalid after four weeks but should we keep the bug assigned if we don't get any reply from the bug reporter?16:50
ubotuNew bug: #183563 in flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) "[hardy] amd64 libselinux.so.1 missing?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18356316:50
ubotuNew bug: #183564 in flightgear (universe) "Please sync flightgear 1.0.0-1 from debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18356416:50
persiaIuli: Keeping the bug assigned is a handy way to track them.  Try sorting your assigned bugs by least recently touched once a week to identify the invalid ones, and by most recently touched to identify ones that received an update.  Might not need assignment anymore once it becomes invalid.16:51
Iulipersia: Aww, ok, thanks for the info.16:54
ubotuNew bug: #183566 in displayconfig-gtk (main) "displayconfig-gtk crashed with IndexError in _syncXorgConfig() (dup-of: 144769)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18356616:55
rbs-titobdmurray: I'll look into it now16:55
ubotuNew bug: #183567 in ubuntu "nvidia settings not right" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18356717:11
ubotuNew bug: #183568 in network-manager (main) "Gutsy network-manager causes OS to freeze on system restart or power down" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18356817:16
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ubotuNew bug: #183570 in clamtk (universe) "[upgrade] ClamTk" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18357017:26
ubotuNew bug: #183571 in stella (multiverse) "please update stella to 2.4.2 version" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18357117:26
bdmurraycalc: Is bug 180856 a duplicate of something?17:32
ubotuLaunchpad bug 180856 in openoffice.org "Open office file format selector is messy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18085617:32
calcbdmurray: i don't think it is17:33
bdmurrayhmm, it sounded familiar to me.  I'll look around17:34
bdmurrayyeah, launchpad! bug 81815 is the one it seems17:35
ubotuLaunchpad bug 81815 in openoffice.org "OpenOffice.org "filter selection" dialog is confusing" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/8181517:35
bdmurraycalc: Is that an upstream issue or a distro issue?17:36
calcbdmurray: would appear to be upstream issue17:37
ubotuNew bug: #183572 in gnumeric (main) "should be able to save custom Sort methods" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18357217:45
ubotuNew bug: #183419 in supertux (universe) "supertux2 crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18341917:50
ubotuNew bug: #183573 in ubuntu "No action aftre bootloader" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18357317:50
ubotuNew bug: #183575 in alsa-driver (main) "toshiba satellite a210-158 no sound" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18357517:56
ubotuNew bug: #183585 in network-manager-vpnc (universe) "network-manager-vpnc resolvconf conflict" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18358518:15
ubotuNew bug: #183586 in ttf-ancient-fonts (universe) "[Sync Request] ttf-ancient-fonts 2.01-1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18358618:15
ubotuNew bug: #183583 in evolution (main) "evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in task_widget_new_from_activity_info() (dup-of: 183499)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18358318:25
ubotuNew bug: #183587 in rhythmbox (main) "Firefox foxytunes extension doesn't work with Rhythmbox" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18358718:25
ubotuNew bug: #183588 in linux (main) "[hardy] linux-image-2.6.24-4-generic - spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7 - Driver b43 - Driver sis900" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18358818:30
ubotuNew bug: #183592 in evolution (main) "Evolution stopped responding after text paste" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18359218:42
ubotuNew bug: #183593 in slune (universe) "slune crashed with GLError in _soya.render() (dup-of: 131026)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18359318:42
ubotuNew bug: #183594 in mm3d (universe) "[Sync Request] mm3d 1.3.6-1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18359418:42
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ubotuNew bug: #183589 in imagemagick (main) "[Hardy] identify crashed with SIGSEGV in realloc()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18358918:51
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ubotuNew bug: #183596 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "mysqld-safe consumes 100% cpu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18359618:56
bdmurrayI've started a Debugging OpenOffice wiki page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingOpenOffice18:58
bdmurrayand I've added the bug tags for OpenOffice and bug 81815 as a known bug18:59
ubotuLaunchpad bug 81815 in openoffice.org "OpenOffice.org "filter selection" dialog is confusing" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/8181518:59
bdmurrayI thought we could add things we discover today there18:59
bdmurrayOne thing I've noticed is that getting a test document for the bug can be helpful19:00
ogasawarabdmurray: cool, sounds good19:01
fishori think i need wiki page about debuging qemu/kvm19:01
ubotuNew bug: #183597 in apturl (main) "Firefox 3.0 support" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18359719:01
ubotuNew bug: #183598 in filezilla (universe) "Upstream changelog not installed" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18359819:01
bdmurrayfishor: I think kvm is something the server team is working on so checking with them might be a good idea19:02
fishorkvm on intel will have a lot of more bugs, so we need predescription howto debug it19:02
fishorok19:02
bdmurraythat makes sense - I think the server team has an irc and / or mailing list19:03
bdmurraycalc: I've recreated bug 180047 but I am not sure it is an openoffice bug.  Is it?19:12
ubotuLaunchpad bug 180047 in openoffice.org "linux libertine is underline by default in OpenOffice.org" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18004719:12
calcbdmurray: that may be go-oo specific so probably shouldn't upstream it19:15
bdmurrayWhat I meant was I went to System -> Preferences -> Appearnce and saw a non-underlined font but openoffice only shows the underlined.  I'm uncertain which package the bug should affect.19:16
calcoh19:16
calcbdmurray: its possible that is related to fontconfig support which i don't think is fully upstream (sun) but part of go-oo (novell)19:17
calcs/possible/highly likely/19:17
bdmurrayokay and whats go-oo?19:19
calcthe linux dists group that has more/less forked OpenOffice19:19
calchttp://go-oo.org/19:19
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calcafaik the fork doesn't have a bug tracking system for its bugs19:20
bdmurraythat's uh interesting19:21
calcgo-oo mostly consists of a bunch of patches that novell and other linux dists make to official OOo19:21
calcthe contents of the ooo-build dir come from them (if you have looked at the ubuntu source)19:21
calcwell except for the tar.bz2 files in ooo-build/src/ which are the official upstream minus any non-dfsg-free bits19:22
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IuliShould we translate and edit the description?19:31
Iulibug 17616519:32
ubotuLaunchpad bug 176165 in openoffice.org "Fehler beim Drucken. " [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17616519:32
bdmurrayIuli: that would be great however also recommend to the reporter to use English in the future as it will be understood by the greatest number of people19:33
Iulibdmurray: Ok, thanks.19:33
bdmurrayby the way 'dpkg -l' often times truncates the output so 'dpkg -l package | cat' is more informative19:33
IuliIndeed19:34
subterrifichi, i'm here to help with hug day. is anyone looking at LP#180964 yet?19:34
bdmurrayI don't think so19:35
IuliI don't.19:35
ubotuNew bug: #183603 in gedit-plugins (universe) "The code comment plugin does't work with Fortran 95" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18360319:36
greg-gwell, did my one bug, back to writing that paper19:36
bdmurraygreg-g: thanks for helping!19:36
greg-gbdmurray,  no worries, wish I could do more than one, but, such is life right now19:37
bdmurraysubterrific: Are you going to look at that one?19:39
ubotuNew bug: #183604 in ubuntu "SD card reader hangs bootup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18360419:41
ubotuNew bug: #183606 in dillo (universe) "Please sync dillo 0.8.6-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18360619:41
Iulibdmurray: Translated19:42
subterrificbdmurray: yes, i'm looking at it right now19:42
subterrificbdmurray: looks like i have to install a JRE before i can reproduce it. i'm working on a fresh vmware install of hardy right now19:43
bdmurrayIuli: thanks for doing that!19:44
IuliNp19:45
ubotuNew bug: #183608 in evolution (main) "(Hardy) Evolution does not send / receive mail after upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18360820:01
ubotuNew bug: #183609 in filezilla (universe) "New upstream v3.0.5.2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18360920:01
thekornHappy hug day!20:14
bdmurrayHappy hug day to you too!20:14
subterrificbdmurray: so i installed a JRE and updated hardy, but i still get this: javaldx: Could not find a Java Runtime Environment! whenever i try to run ooffice20:18
subterrificbdmurray: which leaves me rather stuck on trying to reproduce that bug :\20:19
Kmosone bug left :)20:21
somerville32There is only one bug left for OO.org?20:22
IuliHuh?20:22
somerville32Kmos, There is only one more bug left for what?20:22
thekornsmall question: there are some bugs on the list which are no real bugs, the user simply does not understand how oo* works,20:23
thekornwhat is the procedure in this case?20:23
Kmossomerville32: i've done one right now =)20:23
Kmosbug 4402220:23
ubotuLaunchpad bug 44022 in openoffice.org "menu short-cuts are described with "Skift" instead of "Shift"" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/4402220:23
Kmosit's fixed in hardy20:23
somerville32kmos: see private query20:24
subterrificthekorn: like which one?20:24
thekornbug 17533520:25
ubotuLaunchpad bug 175335 in openoffice.org "spreadsheet macros are very slow" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17533520:25
thekornsorry bug 17851420:25
ubotuLaunchpad bug 178514 in openoffice.org "=TEXT() formula doesnt work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17851420:25
ubotuNew bug: #183615 in gnome-utils (main) "gnome-system-log crashed with SIGSEGV in strrchr()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18361520:26
ubotuNew bug: #183611 in acpi-support (main) "acpi-support not actually instlling /etc/acpi/*" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18361120:27
ubotuNew bug: #183612 in evolution (main) "Cannot to connect to exchange server after today's Hardy updates" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18361220:27
subterrificthekorn: that sounds like a feature request20:29
ubotuNew bug: #183617 in firefox (main) "Firefox does not follow some URLs, video plugin" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18361720:30
thekornsubterrific, I'm sorry 175335 was the wrong one, bug 178514 is a better example20:30
ubotuLaunchpad bug 178514 in openoffice.org "=TEXT() formula doesnt work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17851420:30
subterrificthekorn: try to get him to provide an example Excel spread sheet and an openoffice one to better describe how he/she thinks it should work20:31
subterrificthekorn: or if you know how to do what David is trying to do maybe provide an example or a link to the documentation?20:33
thekornsubterrific, and mark it as "Invalid"20:34
ubotuNew bug: #183619 in ubuntu "wlan0: link is not ready" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18361920:35
subterrificbdmurray: i've updated bug 180542 since that is the problem i'm having right now also20:37
ubotuLaunchpad bug 180542 in openoffice.org "Office will not launch" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18054220:37
bdmurraysubterrific: okay, I'm looking at it20:39
bdmurraycalc: icedtea is the preferred jre now right?20:40
ubotuNew bug: #183620 in lshw (main) "lshw writes out null characters" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18362020:40
calcbdmurray: yes/no its not in main yet20:41
calcbdmurray: so we can't build against it yet so we still have to use gcj for the time being20:41
calcbdmurray: it will be the preferred jre soon (for some unknown timeframe of soon)20:41
subterrifici thought a jre was supposed to be optional for running oo.org or is it required now?20:43
bdmurraycalc: ?20:44
bdmurraysubterrific: do you have openoffice.org-java-common installed?  I don't see it in your comment20:46
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subterrificbdmurray: nope20:47
subterrificbdmurray: if that is required to launch openoffice then it needs to be pulled in by ubuntu-desktop20:48
ubotuNew bug: #183623 in gramps (universe) "Request sync gramps 2.2.10-1 from Debian Unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18362320:50
subterrificbdmurray: installed openoffice.org-java-common and i no longer get the error on stdout, but ooffice still won't run20:52
bdmurraysubterrific: I just tried it on Alpah 3 and I get the javadlx message but it launches fine20:54
ubotuNew bug: #183624 in dput (main) "dput EOFError on ftp uploads" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18362420:55
ubotuNew bug: #183625 in bgoffice (main) "bulgarian language pack won't install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18362520:56
subterrificbdmurray: strange, i installed from the a3 iso and did an update20:56
subterrificbdmurray: other than that all i've done is install icedtea and ubuntu-dev-tools20:57
bdmurrayhmm are you on i386 or amd64?20:58
subterrifici386 inside vmware21:00
bdmurrayI'll try recreating it but it'll take a bit21:04
bdmurraymaybe calc has an idea21:04
calclooking at the bug21:04
bdmurraythanks21:05
calcsubterrific: openoffice doesn't start at all?21:06
subterrificbdmurray: searching google for that error has lots of unanswered posts to mailing lists and forums with people experiencing the same issue, i'm filtering through them to see if anyone has a solution21:06
* calc will remove his jre and try it21:06
bdmurraysubterrific: calc is Ubuntu's openoffice.org maintainer21:06
subterrificcalc: nope, i've straced it and it doesn't crash either, it runs and exits what appears to be normally21:07
calcsubterrific: interesting, i am upgrading my box then will remove any jre's that OOo can see and see what it does for me21:07
subterrificcalc: the only thing i can think of is that maybe i don't have enough memory allocated to vmware. i'm checking that now21:07
calcit says it will take about 20m to download the debs21:07
calcsubterrific: how much did you have?21:08
subterrificcalc: 512mb, that seems plenty21:09
calcyea that is probably enough21:09
bdmurray512 is what my vm whas21:10
subterrificoh, hmm21:10
subterrifici have a hung soffice.bin process21:11
calcif you kill that does it start?21:11
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subterrificcalc: yes, i tried to attach gdb, but without debug info i couldn't get a very useful stack trace21:16
subterrificcalc: anyway, it starts now, so yay!21:17
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ubotuNew bug: #183629 in language-support-en (main) "[hardy] depends on openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb but this conflicts with openoffice-base 1:2.3.1-3ubuntu2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18362921:20
ubotuNew bug: #183630 in ubuntu "No Sound" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18363021:20
subterrificcalc: is there a package with debug symbols for oo? i'm not seeing one21:20
calcsubterrific: iirc someone hosts the debug packages on a different site, i'm not sure where it is though21:22
calcsubterrific: and 3ubuntu2 just got built yesterday21:22
bdmurraysubterrific: you might look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash21:29
blueyedsubterrific: try openoffice.org-core-dbgsym from http://ddebs.ubuntu.com21:29
* calc notes his upgrade is almost done21:30
bdmurraysubterrific: by the way without more information from the original reporter of bug 180542 it is hard to tell if you had the same bug as them21:38
ubotuLaunchpad bug 180542 in openoffice.org "Office will not launch" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18054221:39
subterrificbdmurray: i agree, i just wanted to note that i solved my problem21:40
calcooo still runs with java removed on my machine21:40
calcsubterrific: oh your problem was due to the hung soffice.bin?21:41
bdmurraysubterrific: okay, and it might help them out too21:41
greg-gbdmurray, what tag should I use for OOo Draw?  (ooo-draw ?, it isn't on the list of used tags)21:41
greg-gthe issue is about opening an .odg file21:42
subterrificcalc: it was definitely the hung process for me, i found a post on the Arch Linux wiki suggesting to rm -rf ~/.openoffice.org2 after a hang like that so i'm wondering if i had to do with the .lock file21:42
calcsubterrific: ok21:43
bdmurraygreg-g: yeah, that tag makes sense to me.  nice catch!21:43
subterrifici'm not going to worry about it unless i can reproduce it, i'm working on the python-uno doc.dispose crash now becaue i seem to remember having that problem myself and finding a fix for it21:43
greg-gI got to define a new tag! ;)21:44
bdmurrayI added it to the bug tags wiki page21:44
greg-ggood deal21:45
ubotuNew bug: #183633 in firefox (main) "Flash plugin does not install correctly in Firefox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18363321:46
ubotuNew bug: #183634 in gcalctool (main) "gcalctool doesn't have a Pi button" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18363421:46
greg-gbdmurray, I added it to the bugday wiki page at the top too, just fyi21:48
greg-gwell, as soon as it saves that is21:48
bdmurraygreat!21:49
bdmurraynow the poor gm script is out of sync21:51
greg-gbdmurray, btw, the Michigan loco team will be doing a bug jam tomorrow night (similar to the Packaging Jam thing we started), see the announcement: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-mi/2008-January/000248.html21:52
greg-gI guess we should call it a "triaging jam" but "bug jam" just stuck (and sounds tasty!)21:53
* greg-g leaves for class21:54
thekornI think bug 175090 is an important one, the whole R1C1 reference thing is not working in gutsy/hardy for me21:54
ubotuLaunchpad bug 175090 in openoffice.org "OpenOffice.org Calc: bug cells reference when using R1C1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17509021:54
bdmurraygreg-g: awesome!  I was gonna offer to join but it looks hard21:54
greg-gbdmurray, what? hard?21:54
thekornso it is impossible to add functions etc.21:55
bdmurraywell, getting to Michigan21:55
greg-gbdmurray, heh, yeah.  we will be on IRC if you want to be around at that time (starting at about 6:30 EST)21:55
greg-gbut I'm not expecting it21:56
greg-ganyways, gotta run21:56
bdmurraywhat channel?21:56
greg-ghere or in #ubuntu-us-mi21:56
bdmurrayOkay, I'll be around as I'm in PST21:56
greg-goh right, cool, thanks21:56
* greg-g goes for real this time21:56
bdmurraythekorn: so you can confirm that bug report?21:57
thekornyes21:57
bdmurrayAdding the package version that you noticed it on and setting the status to Confirmed would help.  Do the steps to reproduce look good to you?21:58
* bdmurray is giving it a try too21:59
thekornyes it is reproducable with the given info22:00
bdmurrayhunh, I set R1C2=A1 and it worked22:00
bdmurraygranted that's wrong22:01
bdmurrayI've never used this before but it seems to make the reference relative to the cell you are currently in22:03
thekornthis is strange: if you add "=A1" to a cell in this mode22:04
bdmurrayogasawara: did you see that behaviour?22:04
thekornthis is converted into the relativ notation automatically22:05
bdmurraythekorn: right I have one set to =R[-2]C[-2] and it works22:05
ogasawarabdmurray: the R1C1 bug?22:05
bdmurrayogasawara: yeah, since we all seem to be thinking / working on it22:06
ogasawaraheh22:06
ogasawarayah I confirmed the bug and added a note about the version I was on22:06
bdmurrayI just saw that.  I hadn't heard of the before so I am not certain what the expected behavior is22:07
thekornit would be nice to know if this is ubuntu specific, otherwise it would make sense to report this one upstream22:10
ogasawarabdmurray: huh, so I also just tried the R1C2=A1 and it works, but if you click on the cell again you'll see it's set to =RC[-1].  and then if you try type in =RC[-1] by hand you22:12
ogasawaraget the #NAME? error22:12
ubotuNew bug: #183637 in pidgin (main) "pidgin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18363722:12
bdmurrayright, I've seen that too22:12
bdmurraySo we've identified 2 bugs I guess and 1 workaround22:13
bdmurrayReading the upstream report it seems like this is a new feature being worked on and this probably isn't a regression22:13
bdmurrayogasawara: since you confirmed it ;) do you want to add that information to the report?22:14
ogasawarado you have a link to the upstream report22:15
ogasawarabut yes, I can all a blurb about the workaround etc22:15
ogasawaras/all/add22:15
bdmurraythat's in comment 2 it seemed more like a feature request than a bug though22:15
ubotuNew bug: #183641 in evolution (main) "evolution imap account has problems with login in" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18364122:15
ogasawaraah22:16
ubotuNew bug: #183643 in seahorse (universe) "seahorse gets confused when the host key of the other machine can't be verified" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18364322:20
bdmurraycalc: I'm looking at bug 179230 and I've no idea how that feature is supposed to work.  What is a good place for triagers to turn for finding documentation on features?22:22
ubotuLaunchpad bug 179230 in openoffice.org "problems with set and show variable. after change, the variables is showed displayed incorrectly (blank field)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17923022:22
ubotuNew bug: #183644 in update-manager (main) "Update manager stops after update to hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18364422:31
calcbdmurray: typically http://support.openoffice.org/index.html22:34
calcbdmurray: or the built in help, i am not sure what that particular feature does22:34
calcbdmurray: something like that sounds like an upstream bug with the details he gave about what doesn't work22:35
* calc is working on getting the l10n package to build so it will resolve the new bugs wrt it22:37
bdmurraycalc: doesn't upstream usually want you to test with the latest windows build?22:37
calcbdmurray: latest upstream build, can be linux or windows, as long as its not the dist's version, yes22:37
calcat least aiui it can be either22:37
bdmurraydo you know if they are doing 64 bit builds yet?22:38
calci was just stating that bug sounds like it is likely to be an upstream one22:38
calcnot yet22:38
bdmurrayRight, I agree I'm trying to figure out the forwarding process22:38
calcah22:38
calccreate a OOo bugzilla account22:39
calccreate new bug if it isn't already filed upstream by someone else, then link back to lp22:39
bdmurrayright, but ideally shouldn't we test before forwarding?22:40
calcyes22:41
calcsince there are a lot of patches by ooo-build its possible to not be upstream, so its always good to test :)22:41
ubotuNew bug: #183648 in udev (main) "udev needs to load before "Loading essential drivers" so firmware_helper will work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18364822:55
bdmurraycalc: and is there a safe way to install both versions (Ubuntu's and upstream's) of openoffice?22:55
calci do it in a vm myself22:56
ubotuNew bug: #182827 in gnome-mplayer (multiverse) "gnome-mplayer crashed with SIGSEGV in shutdown()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18282722:56
calcit might be possible to install upstream into /opt but i am not sure how you would verify it doesn't use any of the system's OOo libs22:56
bdmurrayright22:56
subterrificcalc: who do i assign python-uno bugs to?23:00
ubotuNew bug: #183649 in libfile-spec-perl (universe) "Please sync libfile-spec-perl (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18364923:00
bdmurrayassignment of a bug is usually taken not given.  someone would assign the bug to themselves then they are working on it23:00
bdmurrays/then/when/23:01
subterrifick, so i just mark as confirmed?23:02
bdmurraysubterrific: have you tracked it down to python-uno specifically?  by the way what bug number was that again?23:02
subterrificbdmurray: the backtrace shows it crashing inside pyuno::Runtime::Runtime()23:03
subterrificbdmurray: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/18096423:03
ubotuLaunchpad bug 180964 in openoffice.org "python-uno: doc.dispose() crashes with "Fatal Python error: PyImport_GetModuleDict: no module dictionary!"" [Undecided,New]23:03
bdmurraysubterrific: and python-uno is a different package right?23:06
bdmurrayhrm23:07
calcpython-uno is a subpart of OOo23:08
bdmurrayyeah, I got that worked out23:08
ubotuNew bug: #183651 in ubuntu "firefox making enitire system freeze when trying to log into mail.yahoo.com" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18365123:10
bdmurraycalc: would it be helpful to tag bugs as python-uno so they can be found easier?23:11
calcbdmurray: sure that sounds fine :)23:12
saivannBug #21202 is clearly not triaged, it is reported against Firefox, but it's clearly not a firefox bug, does someone can look at this and try to confirm which package is the cause of this bug?23:13
ubotuLaunchpad bug 21202 in firefox "firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2120223:13
calcsaivann: the begging of that bug report at least looks legitimate23:15
calcer beginning23:15
calcaiui apps have to be written properly to support the gnome clipboard23:15
saivanncalc : On the upstream firefox bug report, firefox developers all seems to confirm that firefox is not really the cause of that problem, but the way clipboard are managed23:15
calcthere is a bug in OOo upstream bugzilla about it as well iirc23:15
calclet me see if i can find the bug report wrt OOo it might have some useful info in it23:16
saivanncalc : Are you sure that it should really be fixed specifically for Gnome? IMO, Gnome should adjust itself to manage clipboard, programs shouldn't be adjusted to work with Gnome, no?23:17
saivanncalc : thanks23:17
calchttp://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=6309223:18
ubotuOpenOffice.org bug 63092 in framework "Bad interaction with gnome 2.12's clipboard management" [Enhancement,New: ]23:18
saivanncalc : An example, when installing glipper ( a clipboard manager for Gnome ), clipboard works as designed23:18
calcspecifically: "If a client needs to exit while owning the CLIPBOARD selection, it should23:18
calcrequest the clipboard manager to take over the ownership of the clipboard, using23:18
calcthe SAVE_TARGETS mechanism. If there is no clipboard manager, or if the23:18
calcSAVE_TARGETS conversion fails, the application should simply exit."23:18
saivanncalc : You don't believe that Gnome should keep the clipboard until another clipboard erase it?23:19
ubotuNew bug: #183652 in ubuntu "CUPS fails to start on boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18365223:20
ubotuNew bug: #183653 in totem (main) "Please sponsor totem 2.21.90 (main) into Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18365323:20
calcsaivann: reading that bug report the issue sounds like app (eg firefox) owns the selection and quits wiping it out23:21
calcsaivann: note the freedesktop.org standard referenced in that bug report23:22
calcso its not a bug of gnome and it could be considered not to be a bug of firefox, but its at least a feature request to comply with the new ICCCM clipboard spec23:23
saivanncalc : Yeah I see.. it's seems a bit amazing since most of all apps have this problem under Gnome.. That would mean that all programs should be fixed.. and that sound not realistic to me23:23
calcsaivann: most/all apps had to be changed in the past for other ICCCM standards as well23:23
saivanncalc : Seriously?23:24
calcsaivann: i don't know of any specifics but yea there have been changes in standards over the years23:24
saivanncalc : Do you believe that finding all commonly used applications that have this bug and adding them all to a principal bug concerning the issue with the latest ICCCM standard would be a good idea to help this issue getting fixed everywhere?23:25
calcsaivann: i would reference that page in the bug report about firefox and change it to a wishlist and note in the upstream bug report the url to the link as well23:25
calcsaivann: perhaps23:25
calcsaivann: upstreams that are fairly active probably could fix it pretty quickly23:26
saivanncalc : I can manage to find all programs in which this bug happen and report this bug to upstream bug tracker, giving them the link for the new specification23:27
calcsaivann: ok23:27
bdmurrayI'd see how it goes with one upstream first.23:27
saivanncalc : That's a big job but as long as it gives good result :)23:27
saivanndbmurray : What do you mean exactly?23:28
calcsaivann: i would target an upstream like pidgin that is more likely to want to be standard23:28
bdmurrayI mean I wouldn't want to offend anyone23:28
calciirc gnucash isn't even gtk2 yet, or is it finally?23:29
calcevolution/pidgin/gimp are probably good targets to mention to at first23:29
calcthen for the others later you can mention which already work with the new standard and it would be good for them to update their apps as well :)23:29
bdmurraymaybe inkscape too23:30
saivanncalc : Great, I'll start with these and wait to see upstream opinion about it23:30
calcyea i know some inkscape guys, they would probably add it23:30
saivannbdmurray : Great, thanks for these informations23:30
calckeescook: your inkscape right? :)23:30
emgentbdmurray, when you have a bit time see my query :P23:30
calcsaivann: apps that are generally gnome centric would be more likely to convert over earlier than other apps like ooo/firefox/sunbird23:31
saivanncalc : Yeah, this make sense, gedit already works OK with actual Gnome clipboard, it's a good example23:31
saivanncalc : Should I give some information that is not inside this page to upstream bug tracker or everything is here? : http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ClipboardManager23:33
saivannIn your opinion23:33
bdmurraysubterrific: I'll set the status of bug 180964 to Triaged.  You were able to recreate it with the latest version right?23:35
ubotuLaunchpad bug 180964 in openoffice.org "python-uno: doc.dispose() crashes with "Fatal Python error: PyImport_GetModuleDict: no module dictionary!"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18096423:35
subterrificbdmurray: yes, i realized after i commmented that i forgot to mention i was using the latest version on hardy23:37
bdmurrayI'd add it for you but I think it would make sense for it to come from the same launchpad user23:39
subterrifici'm looking at this other bug now which is basically a usability feature request https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/17711423:39
ubotuLaunchpad bug 177114 in openoffice.org "Openoffice Writer toolbar don't stay in on screen" [Undecided,New]23:39
subterrificshould i just update the description to be more clear?23:39
subterrificok, i'll leave another comment23:40
bdmurrayOne thing we've been trying to do is add "TEST CASE" sections to the description with detailed steps to reproduce23:41
* calc hugs subterrific :)23:41
calcbdmurray: yea! :)23:41
calcsome bugs are hard to even determine what the user is complaining about so test cases are very useful23:41
bdmurrayand openoffice has so many features that identifying specific menus and options to click is quite helpful23:42
subterrifici'll do the best i can with steps to reproduce that, its hard to describe clicking and dragging toolbars that don't have labels really23:45
bdmurraysubterrific: perhaps making a screencast then would help23:45
bdmurrayI've used istanbul to do that once and it was pretty easy.  It just records what you do on your desktop.23:46
subterrificgood idea23:46
ubotuNew bug: #183654 in ubuntu "when i try to copy music to my mp3 player it says can not show content to much open documents " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18365423:46
subterrifici don't think istanbul likes the vmware video driver or something, the screencast flashes black a lot23:55
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bdmurraysubterrific: right click on the icon and choose record 3d23:56
bdmurraythat fixed it for me on real hardware23:56
pochu!sync23:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sync - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:59

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