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| kraut | moin | 08:14 |
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| misc-- | hi. I need to download a vanila kernel and patch it so I can run a virtual server on it. If I downoad then patch then copy my old .config and do a make oldconfig on it then compile etc, does that mean I'll still have the same ubuntu features as I had before such as my wireless and sound working, or does the ubuntu kernel contain specifc extra modules/patches and such? | 09:26 |
| laga | misc--: i'm not sure about the kernel itself, however, there's a linux-ubuntu-modules package which contains additional drivers | 09:27 |
| misc-- | ohhh right ok then | 09:28 |
| laga | and the linux-restricted-modules-package | 09:28 |
| misc-- | I wonder if I can get them to somehow work with the new kernel. I did try this a few days ago and did what I said above, copied my .config from my ubuntu kernel to the vanila sources and recompiled. No errors, but I lost my wireless and sound, so something went wrong... | 09:29 |
| laga | can't you just patch the ubuntu kernel | 09:30 |
| laga | it should be possible to recompile l-u-m easily at least | 09:30 |
| misc-- | no I had already tried that but there are all these missing hunks when I patch | 09:31 |
| laga | l-r-m was a bit of a nightmare last time i tried it, but that might have changed in the meantime | 09:31 |
| misc-- | right ok then. So I actually have to recompile l-u-m and l-r-m | 09:32 |
| laga | depending on where your missing modules are :) | 09:32 |
| misc-- | alright no probs, thanks for that, will look into it. | 09:32 |
| laga | if you can't rebuild them for whatever reason, there might even be separate packages for the modules you need. i suggest you search the ubuntu wiki as well, i'm not an expert :) | 09:33 |
| misc-- | ok, shall do, thanks =) | 09:46 |
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| Kano | hi, could someone update to rc8? | 13:26 |
| asac | hi | 13:51 |
| asac | 11:00 < asac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/3571/ <- "update of the scan | 13:51 |
| asac | 11:00 < asac> capability patch" | 13:51 |
| asac | 11:00 < asac> do we have that as well? | 13:51 |
| Kano | did somebody try vfat lately? | 13:52 |
| Mithrandir | yes, works fine. | 13:52 |
| Kano | vfat? | 13:52 |
| Kano | as user? | 13:52 |
| Kano | not usb | 13:52 |
| Kano | i dont think so | 13:52 |
| Mithrandir | why would USB matter there? | 13:53 |
| Kano | because of the rights | 13:53 |
| mjg59 | asac: Do you have n-m 0.7 packages anywhere? | 13:53 |
| Kano | when you use umask=000 basically a normal use can write | 13:53 |
| Mithrandir | doesn't sound like a kernel issue since it works fine as root. | 13:54 |
| Kano | but: timestamps are only written as root or maybe when you are in floppy group and you use usb as you have got full write access in that case | 13:54 |
| Kano | every other filesystem works correct | 13:54 |
| asac | mjg59: currently working on that ... thus i found that comment and wondered if we have that kernel patch :) | 13:55 |
| mjg59 | asac: Heh. As far as I know, no. | 13:55 |
| mjg59 | I suspect it's backported from the wireless tree, rather than from 2.6.24 | 13:55 |
| mjg59 | But you should be able to pull it from RH CVS and check | 13:55 |
| asac | hmm ... ok. we should probably keep in mind to look into that at some point. | 13:55 |
| Kano | just copy something to it, time will be always current time as long as you are not root | 13:57 |
| Kano | rsync will copy it over and over again that way.. | 13:58 |
| Kano | even ntfs-3g works fine | 13:58 |
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| Kano | Mithrandir: do you have got the same effect on your system? | 14:15 |
| Mithrandir | Kano: unsure, and I don't have time to test, sorry. | 14:15 |
| Kano | Mithrandir: | 14:17 |
| Kano | touch -d 2008-01-01 testfile | 14:17 |
| Kano | kano@Kanotix:/media/sdb5$ ls -l testfile | 14:17 |
| Kano | -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 2008-01-16 15:17 testfile | 14:17 |
| Kano | thats the shortest test | 14:17 |
| Kano | as root | 14:18 |
| Kano | -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 2008-01-01 00:00 testfile | 14:18 |
| Kano | thats the diffence | 14:18 |
| Kano | a user can not change timestamp/would use current time if you create new files | 14:20 |
| Kano | /dev/sdb5 on /media/sdb5 type vfat (rw,umask=000,shortname=mixed,quiet,utf8) | 14:20 |
| doko | BenC_, lamont: I assume the hppa kernel build can now use gcc-4.2 for hppa. what about ia64 and powerpc? | 16:50 |
| lamont | doko: #parisc would know best on hppa kernel | 16:52 |
| BenC_ | doko: hppa and ia64 are getting ftbfs because of section conflicts when we use gcc-4.2 | 16:56 |
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| BenC | doko: oops, I mean ppc and ia64 | 16:57 |
| doko | BenC: is this seen with 4.3/snapshot as well? | 16:58 |
| BenC | doko: not sure | 16:59 |
| BenC | doko: this was just seen with default gcc on hardy builds | 16:59 |
| doko | BenC: asking because the kernel is the last package in main b-d on 4.1, 4.3 would be an alternative if that works | 17:01 |
| BenC | doko: I'm a little reluctant...but maybe we can try it next week at the sprint | 17:02 |
| doko | ok | 17:02 |
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| ceekay | hi all.. i have a .deb of the intel ixgbe driver that i put together (because it's not available in feisty which i'm using)... i have an ixgbe-<version>-source.deb now, but i want to make a platform-dependent binary .deb so that i can put it on machines that don't have build tools... what tool should i be using for this? | 22:10 |
| crimsun | ceekay: dpkg-buildpackage is canonical. There are various packaging frameworks to make it easier: quilt, cdbs, and so forth. Have you asked in #ubuntu-motu? | 22:35 |
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