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[08:14] <kraut> moin
[09:26] <misc--> hi. I need to download a vanila kernel and patch it so I can run a virtual server on it. If I downoad then patch then copy my old .config and do a make oldconfig on it then compile etc, does that mean I'll still have the same ubuntu features as I had before such as my wireless and sound working, or does the ubuntu kernel contain specifc extra modules/patches and such?
[09:27] <laga> misc--: i'm not sure about the kernel itself, however, there's a linux-ubuntu-modules package which contains additional drivers
[09:28] <misc--> ohhh right ok then
[09:28] <laga> and the linux-restricted-modules-package
[09:29] <misc--> I wonder if I can get them to somehow work with the new kernel. I did try this a few days ago and did what I said above, copied my .config from my ubuntu kernel to the vanila sources and recompiled. No errors, but I lost my wireless and sound, so something went wrong...
[09:30] <laga> can't you just patch the ubuntu kernel
[09:30] <laga> it should be possible to recompile l-u-m easily at least
[09:31] <misc--> no I had already tried that but there are all these missing hunks when I patch
[09:31] <laga> l-r-m was a bit of a nightmare last time i tried it, but that might have changed in the meantime
[09:32] <misc--> right ok then. So I actually have to recompile l-u-m and l-r-m
[09:32] <laga> depending on where your missing modules are :)
[09:32] <misc--> alright no probs, thanks for that, will look into it.
[09:33] <laga> if you can't rebuild them for whatever reason, there might even be separate packages for the modules you need. i suggest you search the ubuntu wiki as well, i'm not an expert :)
[09:46] <misc--> ok, shall do, thanks =)
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[13:26] <Kano> hi, could someone update to rc8?
[13:51] <asac> hi
[13:51] <asac> 11:00 < asac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/3571/ <- "update of the scan
[13:51] <asac> 11:00 < asac> capability patch"
[13:51] <asac> 11:00 < asac> do we have that as well?
[13:52] <Kano> did somebody try vfat lately?
[13:52] <Mithrandir> yes, works fine.
[13:52] <Kano> vfat?
[13:52] <Kano> as user?
[13:52] <Kano> not usb
[13:52] <Kano> i dont think so
[13:53] <Mithrandir> why would USB matter there?
[13:53] <Kano> because of the rights
[13:53] <mjg59> asac: Do you have n-m 0.7 packages anywhere?
[13:53] <Kano> when you use umask=000 basically a normal use can write 
[13:54] <Mithrandir> doesn't sound like a kernel issue since it works fine as root.
[13:54] <Kano> but: timestamps are only written as root or maybe when you are in floppy group and you use usb as you have got full write access in that case
[13:54] <Kano> every other filesystem works correct
[13:55] <asac> mjg59: currently working on that ... thus i found that comment and wondered if we have that kernel patch :)
[13:55] <mjg59> asac: Heh. As far as I know, no.
[13:55] <mjg59> I suspect it's backported from the wireless tree, rather than from 2.6.24
[13:55] <mjg59> But you should be able to pull it from RH CVS and check
[13:55] <asac> hmm ... ok. we should probably keep in mind to look into that at some point.
[13:57] <Kano> just copy something to it, time will be always current time as long as you are not root
[13:58] <Kano> rsync will copy it over and over again that way..
[13:58] <Kano> even ntfs-3g works fine
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[14:15] <Kano> Mithrandir: do you have got the same effect on your system?
[14:15] <Mithrandir> Kano: unsure, and I don't have time to test, sorry.
[14:17] <Kano> Mithrandir: 
[14:17] <Kano> touch -d 2008-01-01 testfile
[14:17] <Kano> kano@Kanotix:/media/sdb5$ ls -l testfile
[14:17] <Kano> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 2008-01-16 15:17 testfile
[14:17] <Kano> thats the shortest test
[14:18] <Kano> as root
[14:18] <Kano> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 2008-01-01 00:00 testfile
[14:18] <Kano> thats the diffence
[14:20] <Kano> a user can not change timestamp/would use current time if you create new files
[14:20] <Kano>  /dev/sdb5 on /media/sdb5 type vfat (rw,umask=000,shortname=mixed,quiet,utf8)
[16:50] <doko> BenC_, lamont: I assume the hppa kernel build can now use gcc-4.2 for hppa. what about ia64 and powerpc?
[16:52] <lamont> doko: #parisc would know best on hppa kernel
[16:56] <BenC_> doko: hppa and ia64 are getting ftbfs because of section conflicts when we use gcc-4.2
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[16:57] <BenC> doko: oops, I mean ppc and ia64
[16:58] <doko> BenC: is this seen with 4.3/snapshot as well?
[16:59] <BenC> doko: not sure
[16:59] <BenC> doko: this was just seen with default gcc on hardy builds
[17:01] <doko> BenC: asking because the kernel is the last package in main b-d on 4.1, 4.3 would be an alternative if that works
[17:02] <BenC> doko: I'm a little reluctant...but maybe we can try it next week at the sprint
[17:02] <doko> ok
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[22:10] <ceekay> hi all.. i have a .deb of the intel ixgbe driver that i put together (because it's not available in feisty which i'm using)... i have an ixgbe-<version>-source.deb now, but i want to make a platform-dependent binary .deb so that i can put it on machines that don't have build tools... what tool should i be using for this?
[22:35] <crimsun> ceekay: dpkg-buildpackage is canonical.  There are various packaging frameworks to make it easier: quilt, cdbs, and so forth.  Have you asked in #ubuntu-motu?