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tgm4883_laptopany others?00:00
tgm4883_laptopany HD?00:00
lime4x4it's close enough to hook the pc to the tv nope just the one tuner card and no hd00:00
tgm4883_laptopyou should be fine then00:00
tgm4883_laptopthe pvr150 has a hardware encoder00:00
lime4x4just trying to decide if i want to spend the money for a state of the art htpc setup00:01
tgm4883_laptopso the only thing that would be taxing the system is comm flagging and playback00:01
lime4x4yeap00:01
tgm4883_laptopwhich on your specs wouldn't be that much cpu usage00:01
tgm4883_laptopvid card?00:01
lime4x4dual geforce 7600gt pci-e in sli mode00:02
lime4x4currently running 3 lcd flat panels00:02
tgm4883_laptopyou are way fine for a pvr15000:03
tgm4883_laptopyou would be fine for HD also00:03
tgm4883_laptopjust FYI00:03
lime4x4thanks. i also have a 3.0 ghz celeron setup but i don't think it has aenough processing power00:05
tgm4883_laptopthat should have enough processing power for the PVR15000:05
tgm4883_laptopeasily00:05
lime4x4now u got me thinking...lol00:06
lime4x4any good htpc motherboards with built in dvi?00:06
tgm4883_laptophmm00:08
tgm4883_laptopsec00:08
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tgm4883_laptoptheres lots of boards with that sort of thing.  Probably want to look at size though too00:10
lime4x4i c alot of the htpc cases now accept micro and full size00:10
tgm4883_laptopright00:11
tgm4883_laptopbut you could also go mini itx00:11
tgm4883_laptopwhich is pretty small00:11
Tarithose are rather more expensive than others, though00:12
tgm4883_laptoptrue00:13
tgm4883_laptopbut they can also be put just about anywhere00:13
tgm4883_laptopand many don't require a fan00:13
directhexmac mini > mini-itx00:13
lime4x4thanks i guess it's time to search the net00:15
lime4x4well going with a evga board with hdmi and dvi built in. a 3.2 celeron D 3.2 ghz and 1 gig of memory is 136 at newegg00:43
lime4x4uses a NVIDIA GeForce 7150 for onboard video00:45
rhpot1991tgm4883_laptop: still looking for a db list?01:06
tgm4883nope, i pulled my recording schedules, recorded programs, and previously recorded01:07
tgm4883still transfering old shows, and updating my schedules to reflect the new channels01:07
tgm4883it's tough though for some shows, being that they aren't coming up in the next 14 days01:08
tgm4883stupid WGA01:08
rhpot1991stupid ubuntu forums01:09
rhpot1991my thread has slipped to page 3, 10 views, no replies01:09
* rhpot1991 gets disgruntled too easily01:09
rhpot1991I don't blame the WGA01:11
rhpot1991they were getting ripped off01:11
tgm4883I dont care, I need my 24 :)01:15
rhpot1991eh, 24 is over rated anyways01:15
rhpot1991keep in mind I am a 24 fan01:15
rhpot1991but there is absolutely no character development other than super hero Jack01:16
rhpot1991as long as I get the shield at some point, all is good01:16
rhpot1991http://consumerist.com/344547/microsoft-customer-service-calls-back-10-years-later01:26
osgoodhello01:32
AboveBrew24?? when is 24 coming back on01:40
rhpot1991haha01:41
rhpot1991never01:41
rhpot1991permanent hiatus01:41
rhpot1991basically after the writers come back and they can present you a whole season without breaks, then you will see it01:41
AboveBrewcrappy strike01:44
osgoodlol01:44
osgoodahh... a winter of reruns01:44
rhpot1991we can thank all the reality tv lover01:51
rhpot1991lovers01:51
osgoodi hear ya01:51
osgoodquestion about mythtv01:54
foxbuntuos what question ;-)01:55
foxbuntuosgood, ^01:55
osgoodi am having trouble with my mythtv install... does upgrading to mythbuntu reset all settings for myth01:56
osgoodmy tuner works... this I know01:56
osgoodi think it is a sql problem01:58
osgoodor the backend setup... #$@$ i dont know01:59
foxbuntuosgood, no mythbuntu does not reset everything02:04
osgoodyeah... im reading about it now... thats what i am gathering02:06
AboveBrewany hardware guys in here?02:07
nettow0822hey guys02:24
nettow0822question concerning mythvideo02:25
nettow0822sometimes the video audio play in a foreign language.....02:25
nettow0822I can play the same video in xine and the audio is in english...02:26
nettow0822what do I need to do to get the audio in english?02:26
rhpot1991sounds like it has multiple audio tracks02:33
rhpot1991might be able to delete the non english ones with mp4box (apt-get install gpac)02:34
rhpot1991not sure about player configurations, check the mailing list?02:34
yotuxCan I use mythbuntu to stream to the internet?02:39
nettow0822why is myth playing the other language and xine is playing english?02:40
nettow0822I have xine as the player in myth02:40
blkorpheusstream to?02:41
yotuxok I am away from home allot lately so I was considering setup mythbuntu and possibly using my blackberry to watch recorded video02:42
rhpot1991yotux: you need to stream or put them on your blackberry to take with you?02:48
yotuxI need to stream02:49
yotuxI have a blackberry 7130 so I have very little store and no SD options :(02:49
rhpot1991I have seen some mentions of hacking mythweb up to stream on wiki.mythtv.org02:49
yotuxI was think about using the web interafce for mythtv and allowing outside access to it but I am new to myth02:50
rhpot1991http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Stream_mythtv_recordings_from_mythweb_using_flash_video02:51
rhpot1991http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Stream_mythtv_recordings_to_mobile_devices02:51
rhpot1991can try messing with those02:51
Aval0nwhat version of mythtv does mythbuntu 7.10 use?03:41
Tari.2003:47
javatexandoes the mythtv user have a password after typical installation....I know there is a password for mysql03:56
javatexanis the mythtv user password the same as the mythtv mysql password?04:02
MythbuntuGuest28can't get my pinnacle remote to work any advie04:42
AquahallicEvenin' folks05:39
AquahallicWondering if anyone is running MythTv SVN and what thier thoughts on it are??05:40
teleewhen i try to play a movie (not throught mythtv) the screen is all green with some other colors.  Would mythtv mess things up like codecs or somethign?05:49
directhex|bsptelee, nvidia driver bug09:45
wek  13:56
wekHallo alltogether! absolutely  no audio-output on HDMI from the mythbuntu-FrontEnd. (video output works fine)! can any body help? please13:57
wekMainboard: Gigabyte GA-73PVM-S2H,14:02
wek                           Onboard Graphics: Integrated in the nVIDIA GeForce 7100/nForce 630i chipset14:02
wek                The Mainboard-Manual states under HDMI-Port:14:02
wek                        After installing the HDMI device, make sure the default device for sound playback is the HDMI-device.14:02
wekHow can I configure the system to get the proper audio-signal on the HDMI-output?14:03
directhex|bspcat /proc/asound/cards14:09
wek I try: cat /proc/asound/cards   thanks!14:15
directhex|bspthat'll just tell you what sound cards have been detected in the system. it's not a full answer14:16
abovebrew2Im trying to get an old capture card to work with MythTV. Mythbuntu has the card listed as supported hardware, but the MythTV Wiki doesn't. Is that a problem?14:22
abovebrew2I'm getting these errors in my dmesg:14:23
abovebrew2[   24.360778] Linux video capture interface: v2.0014:23
abovebrew2[   24.535788] bttv: driver version 0.9.17 loaded14:23
abovebrew2[   24.535792] bttv: using 8 buffers with 2080k (520 pages) each for capture14:23
abovebrew2[   24.537437] bttv: Bt8xx card found (0).14:23
abovebrew2[   24.537456] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> GSI 21 (level, low) -> IRQ 2114:23
abovebrew2[   24.537467] bttv0: Bt848 (rev 17) at 0000:01:00.0, irq: 21, latency: 64, mmio: 0xf800000014:23
abovebrew2[   24.537478] bttv0: using:  *** UNKNOWN/GENERIC ***  [card=0,autodetected]14:23
abovebrew2[   24.537510] bttv0: gpio: en=00000000, out=00000000 in=00ffffff [init]14:23
abovebrew2[   24.540171] tveeprom 0-0050: Huh, no eeprom present (err=-121)?14:23
abovebrew2[   24.540175] bttv0: using tuner=-114:23
abovebrew2[   24.540178] bttv0: i2c: checking for MSP34xx @ 0x80... not found14:23
abovebrew2[   24.540755] bttv0: i2c: checking for TDA9875 @ 0xb0... not found14:23
abovebrew2[   24.541331] bttv0: i2c: checking for TDA7432 @ 0x8a... not found14:23
abovebrew2[   24.541907] bttv0: i2c: checking for TDA9887 @ 0x86... not found14:23
abovebrew2[   24.542677] bttv0: registered device video014:23
abovebrew2[   24.542809] bttv0: registered device vbi014:23
directhex|bspwhat matters is whether it's listed as working by the linuxtv developers14:26
directhex|bspchances are the card will "work", if you configure it as a basic framegrabber14:26
wekdirecthex: there is no directory  /proc/asound! I found by locate asound only /usr/bin/asoundconf and related files.14:37
wekHDMI and sound are generated on the mainboard, no ectra-card is inserted14:37
directhex|bspwell without /proc/asound, you have no sound card support loaded, so that's probably a bad start14:38
wekhow to load, it may be agood step in a good direction14:39
wekor how should the onboard-sound be accessed14:39
wekthe onboard-video works fine14:41
directhex|bsptry runnig alsaconf, it might tell you what sound hardware you have14:41
wekokay alsaconf14:41
directhex|bspactually, they don't ship that anymore. bah14:41
directhex|bspwhat does "asoundconf list" say?14:42
wekasoundconf list extited without any information, maybe nothing is present14:43
directhex|bspnothing is detected, certainly14:43
directhex|bsptry "modprobe snd-intel-hda model=acer"14:44
directhex|bspsnd-hda-intel, sorry14:45
weksudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=acer   exited without output, sucessfull?14:53
wekand:   cat /proc/asound/cards   states: --- no soundcards ---  , absolutely correct!14:55
directhex|bspno, it's not correct, you want it to report the hdmi audio14:56
wekyes it should find the onboard sound14:57
directhex|bspokay, try this14:59
directhex|bspinstall linux-backports-modules14:59
wekI tried: sudo  install linux-backports-modules  and got: install: missing destination file operand after `linux-backports-modules'15:03
wekwhat destination is good?15:03
directhex|bspwhen i say "install this" i mean "use your package manager and install the package named"15:04
directhex|bspbut it doesn't look like it'll help anyway, there's nothing useful ni there15:04
wekI just checked the box of the mainboard and found two CDs with drivers and utilities. are they usefull under mythbuntu?  could it help to get the sound?15:06
wekhow to access the packagemanager under mythbuntu? is there a commandline input?15:07
directhex|bspwek, there are three or four command-line package managers installed by default. "apt-get" would be the best known. aptitude would be the best15:10
weko yes I remember15:11
wekusually I access the package-manager by menu15:12
wekroot@uhu:/home/wek#  apt-get install linux-backports-modules    worked15:22
wek asoundconf list   responds:  Names of available sound cards:15:23
wek and no name is displayed15:24
directhex|bspthere's no obvious sign that the sound is being detected then15:26
wekmaybe after a reboot audio is available, I will try15:33
wekit partly worked, at least analog sound is produced by the mainboard, HDMI-sound was not detected by the TV-set (Philips 23pf9531)16:32
directhex|bspit's a start16:34
directhex|bsprun "alsamixer" and look for a setting called something like IEC95816:34
wekThe Philips 32pf9531 looks good by design, seems good by hardware is really bad if you want to configure the external connections16:34
rhpot1991_laptoptgm4883: were you able to add anything to the xbmc main menu?16:34
tgm4883yep16:35
tgm4883i had to ask over in #xbmc16:36
tgm4883the guide is way out of date16:36
rhpot1991_laptophow did you do it?16:36
rhpot1991_laptopheh, figures16:36
tgm4883sec, let me find the right filename16:36
tgm4883heh, xbox is off now16:38
tgm4883I'm pretty sure is was Main.xml16:38
rhpot1991_laptopjust tell me later16:38
tgm4883in the same dir16:38
rhpot1991_laptopmine is off too, so I can't poke around16:38
tgm4883yea, there are a few changes16:39
rhpot1991_laptophow do you like it so far functionality wise?16:39
tgm4883the xbmc guys had a laugh about how old that guide was16:39
tgm4883pretty nice16:39
rhpot1991_laptopheh, anything else that should be changed?16:39
tgm4883i havent tried live tv yet though16:39
tgm4883sec, let me look at the guide16:39
rhpot1991_laptopk16:39
tgm4883yea it's not the execute attribute anymore16:40
tgm4883that was removed like 2 years ago16:40
tgm4883What i did was I changed "Programs" to "TV"16:40
tgm4883and it actually doesn't say Programs either16:41
tgm4883is says16:41
tgm4883<label>0</label>16:41
rhpot1991_laptopyou just plugged TV into there?16:41
tgm4883yep16:42
tgm48830 is a built in name for Programs16:42
rhpot1991_laptopah ok16:42
tgm4883sec, just turned the xbox on16:42
tgm4883it's Home.xml16:43
rhpot1991_laptopalright thanks16:44
rhpot1991_laptopI'll mess with it later16:44
tgm4883in the PAL or PAL16x9 dir16:44
tgm4883depending on your screen ratio16:44
* rhpot1991_laptop doesn't have any fancy tv's16:44
tgm4883and you want to edit this area16:45
tgm4883<description>My Programs normal push button</description>16:45
tgm4883or pictues, music, etc16:45
tgm4883but notice the push button part16:45
tgm4883and instead of execute, you have this16:45
tgm4883<onclick>xbmc.runscript(q:\scripts\xbmcmythtv\default.py)</onclick>16:45
tgm4883oh yea, the command to run it in the guide was wrong too16:46
rhpot1991_laptopya I had noticed that16:46
tgm4883so yea, I just changed the <label> and <onclick> and was done16:46
rhpot1991_laptopgonna redo the wiki, or no?16:46
tgm4883although I could change the picture too, as it still shows up with the Programs picture16:46
tgm4883I was thinking about it16:47
tgm4883just editing a few parts16:47
rhpot1991_laptopprob a good idea16:47
tgm4883oh, the samba part is really easy with mythbuntu :)16:47
tgm4883cause you can enable it from MCC16:47
rhpot1991_laptopit tosses shares in there already IIRC16:48
rhpot1991_laptopthough I think I removed them all16:48
rhpot1991_laptopI think MCC might have used default shares, instead of where I had mine, could have just been an out of date config though16:48
tgm4883well MCC enables the recording dir to be a share16:48
tgm4883and sets the proper security level and such16:49
rhpot1991_laptopya I think it pointed mine at /var/mythtv/recordings16:49
tgm4883or /var/lib/mythtv/recordings16:49
tgm4883most likely it queries the db for that info16:49
rhpot1991_laptopya thats it16:49
rhpot1991_laptopsame with videos/music/pictures16:49
rhpot1991_laptopall in /var/lib/mythtv16:50
rhpot1991_laptopwhere mine don't exist16:50
tgm4883yep16:50
tgm4883backend only?16:50
rhpot1991_laptopmaster backend w/ a frontend16:51
rhpot1991_laptopI'm running the ubuntu apt packages though, not sure that it matters16:51
tgm4883shouldn't16:51
tgm4883did you set up the right areas in mythvideo, etc?16:52
rhpot1991_laptopyep16:52
tgm4883strange16:52
tgm4883sounds like a bug16:52
rhpot1991_laptopI think the box was upgraded from feisty to gutsy16:53
tgm4883shouldn't matter if it's being queried from the db, which is sounds like it's not16:53
tgm4883sounds like it's just using defaults16:53
rhpot1991_laptopthat it does16:53
rhpot1991_laptophmmm mythweb doesn't list those out16:53
tgm4883makes me wonder what happens if your recordings are not in /var/lib/mythtv/recordings16:54
rhpot1991_laptopmy recordings and videos obviously work, since I use them constantly16:54
rhpot1991_laptopwell at that point you have an empty samba share16:54
rhpot1991_laptopI went in there and looked at that said neat something setup shares for me, then deleted them cause they were all empty16:54
rhpot1991_laptopis it a safe assumption that most users will have at least one empty user job that I can use?16:55
rhpot1991_laptopor, is there any way to create another (I know there are 4 available by default)16:56
tgm4883hmm16:56
tgm4883i'd assume that most users have 4 empty user jobs16:56
rhpot1991_laptoplooking to hitch in and use that functionality thats already there16:56
wek directhex|bs  alsa mixer shows IEC958       I tried to change the stae from Off to On  till now I didnt find a working method16:57
rhpot1991_laptophmmm wiki still not displaying my page in search results16:57
rhpot1991_laptoptgm4883: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Plugins/MythExport if you want to mess with it on your psp16:59
wekI will look  man alsamixer,  and a wiki-page about alsamixer17:00
tgm4883ehh, did a little change on the wiki.  Didn't add the db issues though17:04
rhpot1991_laptopdb issues were elsewhere17:13
rhpot1991_laptopand in the forums for the mythtv scripts17:13
rhpot1991_laptopmentioned elsewhere that is17:15
rhpot1991_laptopI have a sever hatred for the ubuntu forums17:17
famiconrhpot1991_laptop werd17:49
famiconi totally agree with you17:49
famiconThe best way to describe it is "amagawdd, i am totally new to linux and i don't know how to read basic documentation and howtos, But because ubuntu means "respect" or something you are forced to deal with my shti and cant complain or like ill totally threaten to go back to windows"17:51
rhpot1991_laptopI swear everything that isn't a basic linux newbie question never gets answered17:52
rhpot1991_laptopI should move my thread to the mythbuntu forum, maybe it will get some more action there17:52
famiconyeah well. I've noticed a steep decline in quality of the topics discussed on the ubuntu forums17:52
famiconIt used to be fairly intelligent and the forums contained some valuable information17:53
rhpot1991_laptopthere are some decent howtos if you search17:53
famiconnowaydays it's just 1 million threads about "Why doesnt my $_random_exoctic_hardware not work"17:54
rhpot1991_laptopbut it seems to be more annoying than anything to post something specific and expect to get a response17:54
famiconeh17:54
famiconfalse expectations17:54
rhpot1991_laptopI don't see an option to move this, prob need a mod to do it17:55
famiconI used to really like ubuntu, but nowadays the os seems to become retarded17:55
famiconthat and it seems that features are chosen over stability17:56
rhpot1991_laptopeh, hasn't ubuntu always been like that though?17:56
famiconwhich in my opinoin is worse than selling crack to schoolgirls17:56
rhpot1991_laptopif you want stability, stick with debian17:56
famiconyeah or howabout you don't ship broken code17:57
famiconthat and the whole circle jerk around mark shuttleworth17:57
rhpot1991_laptopwell I can't argue with you there17:57
* rhpot1991_laptop points at the ubuntu amd64 installer with its segfaulting splash screen17:58
famiconi mean, I love linux17:58
famiconbut It's a commmunity thing, and i hate making some rich asshole richer17:58
blkorpheusso there were no distros "shipped with broken code" before ubuntu?18:00
blkorpheusubuntu gets a bad rap18:00
blkorpheusjust use a differnet distro, and stop the whinning18:01
blkorpheushelp fix bugs, or apt-get moving18:01
blkorpheus"I love linux but hate ubuntu"18:02
blkorpheusbizarre18:02
killefizmythbuntu.org seems to be down - is there an alternate download-location for mythbuntu-images?18:03
blkorpheustry google?18:04
blkorpheuswhy do ppl use google last, as opposed to first?18:05
killefizblkorpheus: I did - I find lots of pointers to mythbuntu.org, a shop selling cds in canada as well as torrents for alpha 318:07
famiconblkorpheus thats what i mean18:07
blkorpheuskillefiz, let me get you a link18:07
blkorpheusI'm aware of difficulties and frustration18:08
blkorpheusI often feel the same18:08
blkorpheusbut what else to do18:08
blkorpheus?18:08
blkorpheusmake it better or distro hop18:08
blkorpheusI'm through hopping18:08
blkorpheusand I want bleeding edge18:08
blkorpheusso I stay18:09
blkorpheusymmv18:09
famiconblkorpheus true, but it never hurts to voice criticism18:09
famiconas long as it is constructive18:09
blkorpheusvery true18:10
blkorpheuskillefiz, you do realize ANY ubuntu iso will get you mythv?18:10
blkorpheusjust download the server iso, and apt-get install mythbuntu-desktop or some such name18:11
killefizblkorpheus: yes - I know that and I will fall back to using a server cd and going from there18:11
killefizbut I'm about to set up a new frontend and I'd like to see what a default mythbuntu looks like. Because in my experience installing a ubuntu-something from scratch gives you not 100% the same result as installing server and adding xxx-desktop18:12
killefizaltough the difference are mostly cosmetic18:12
blkorpheusthat has not been my experience18:12
blkorpheusbut if you search torrent sites for mythbuntu...you'll likely get a hit18:13
blkorpheusdoing so now18:13
blkorpheusbingo!18:14
killefizI think I found one18:14
blkorpheusx86 or amd64?18:14
blkorpheushttp://www.mininova.org/search/mythbuntu/seeds18:14
blkorpheus:)18:14
blkorpheuswhere there is a will ...18:14
killefizthanks18:15
blkorpheusmy pleasure18:15
killefizhmm ... x86 or amd64 good question. I guess I'll go with i386 for now ... it's only a frontend and it only has 512 mb18:15
blkorpheustrue18:15
blkorpheusbut you gotta love 64bit18:16
blkorpheusyou can always throw memory at it later18:16
blkorpheusthere are more seeds for the 64bit verison18:16
killefizI have started the download already and it's quite fast - 10% through already and 660 KB/s18:17
blkorpheussweet18:18
* killefiz considers trying the trunk-feed to see if he can get multirec to work18:22
rhpot1991_laptophmmmm apple dropped the price of appletv's19:21
rhpot1991_laptophttp://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?nnmm=browse&mco=7B723644&node=home/shop_ipod/family/apple_tv19:21
rhpot1991_laptopstarting at 22919:21
wek<directhex|bsp> thanks byby19:22
rhpot1991_laptoptgm4883: would make a good stepup from the xbox19:23
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lakritzif I remember correctly there were plans on integrating Totem and MythTV in some way for Ubuntu Hardy. Anyone know how that's going?22:43
javatexan2wait a minute....shouldn't I have a mythtv user too?23:04
javatexan2or is it just a mythtv user group23:05
blkorpheususer nd group23:10
blkorpheusand23:11
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jdugganis there anyway to blacklist intel_agp module from loading on the mythbuntu install process?23:56

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