[02:15] <lns> Just wondering, are questions portable in this chan for ubuntu/ltsp ? Or should it be strictly edubuntu installs only (since they are so similar post-install)?
[02:16] <kgoetz> you could probably ask here
[02:28] <johnny> but #ltsp itself would be good too
[02:28] <johnny> you'd prolly get more assistance there
[02:29] <johnny> especially since you can rely on debian folks assistance too in many cases
[02:29] <kgoetz> (note, thats not an invite to ask #debian)
[02:29] <LaserJock> heh
[02:29] <johnny> definitely not
[02:30] <johnny> oh.. lns you've been there ..
[02:31] <johnny> almost all the folks who answer ltsp questions who hang out in here, are also there
[02:31] <johnny> but not the opposite
[02:32] <kgoetz> also actually asking the question helps ;)
[08:04] <juliux> good mornin
[08:04] <juliux> g
[08:36] <juliux> hi RichEd
[08:36] <RichEd> hi juliux
[08:36] <juliux> RichEd, what do you think about edubuntu coffee mugs?
[08:37] <RichEd> juliux: nice idea :) they hang around on people's work desk ... so it is a constant advert / reminder
[08:37] <juliux> RichEd, ubuntu-de is thinking about the idea
[08:40] <juliux> RichEd, is it ok for you if we produce the mugs?
[08:41] <RichEd> i am sure it is fine ... perhaps send a mail to the trademark address asking permission, but of course letting them know you are a loco ...
[08:41] <RichEd> let me get the mail address for you
[08:43] <RichEd> trademarks@ubuntu.com
[08:43] <juliux> normaly we don't need that because we have a contract about the logo usage
[08:43] <juliux> but i will write them an e-mail
[08:43] <RichEd> http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
[08:45] <LaserJock> morning RichEd
[08:45] <RichEd> hi LaserJock
[08:46] <juliux> hi LaserJock
[08:47] <LaserJock> sorry I missed the meeting, thought it was the late one
[08:49] <RichEd> seemed there was some confusion around the meeting slot yesterday
[08:49] <RichEd> i also thought it was the late one until i checked the fridge
[08:49] <RichEd> we had the early one the week before
[08:49] <RichEd> :/
[08:51] <LaserJock> I was gonna say a little bit about some artwork stuff
[08:52] <LaserJock> I was talking with _MMA_ (Ubuntu Studio lead) about what they were doing with their art packages
[08:53] <LaserJock> and some of the changes they're working on for Ubuntu as well
[08:53] <LaserJock> and he said he could have a look at the Edubuntu artwork packaging
[08:54] <LaserJock> we created https://.launchpad.net/edubuntu-look as a project which the edubuntu-artwork LP team is a driver
[08:54] <LaserJock> so then the packaging/artwork could all be done in a bzr branch
[08:56] <RichEd> ogra was hoping that someone from the art team would join the meeting yesterday after the mail thread discussion ... but no-one did
[08:56] <LaserJock> yes, well, I'm not sure they do IRC as much
[08:56] <RichEd> i mailed Jill last night asking her to do a new wallpaper ... she was keen when last we spoke
[08:56] <LaserJock> there were a few art people who joined ~edubuntu-art
[08:56] <LaserJock> and a wallpaper submission
[08:57] <LaserJock> although I think we are usually pretty good for wallpapers
[08:57] <RichEd> did you like the default for 7.10 ?
[08:57] <LaserJock> it was ok, I think we could have refined it some more
[08:58] <LaserJock> I think it'd be nice to sort of work more on consistency throughout
[08:58] <LaserJock> gdm splash, boot splash, etc. and the website
[08:59] <LaserJock> but _MMA_ has some experience on the packaging/technical end which is nice
[08:59] <LaserJock> I don't think he can commit to too much, but I think he'd be willing to help a team
[09:05] <LaserJock> there's also an icon theme we might consider using based on Gartoon called GNUtoon
[09:05] <LaserJock> it's basically Gartoon+
[09:05] <LaserJock> more icons
[13:14] <highvoltage> ogra: are you around?
[13:16] <laga> ogra: ping
[14:45] <ogra> highvoltage, now i am, sorry, was in the basement
[14:57] <highvoltage> ogra: not a problem!
[14:58] <highvoltage> ogra: have you ever used, or do you know much about multicasting?
[14:58] <ogra> we used it in the cable company where i worked before for iptv but i didnt have direct contact with that
[14:59] <ogra> do you have a patch for me ?
[14:59] <ogra> :)
[14:59] <highvoltage> heh, I wish!
[14:59] <ogra> to try it
[14:59] <highvoltage> the guys at work say that some provisoning systems use multicast to send the data to all the clients
[15:00] <ogra> right
[15:00] <highvoltage> and when I suggested ubiquity over ltsp a while back, they wanted me to look uno multicasting for that
[15:00] <highvoltage> I wasn't sure if it's possible, just looked at the ticket again today
[15:00] <ogra> ubiquity over ltsp ?
[15:01] <ogra> you mean run the live image netbooted ?
[15:01] <highvoltage> well, originally I was going to run a full "fat" nfs environment that runs ubiquity, this was before LTSP used squashfs, etc
[15:02] <highvoltage> but yes, we'll probably do live image netbooted now
[15:02] <ogra> there is a setup somewhere on the wiki
[15:02] <highvoltage> yes, I think it's moquist's setup
[15:02] <ogra> robert collins built that for a conference once
[15:02] <ogra> for an ubuntu booth
[15:03] <highvoltage> do you think it's technically possible for a setup like that to use multicast?
[15:03] <ogra> hmm, no idea
[15:03] <highvoltage> the thing is just, the clients will probably want the data at different times
[15:03] <stgraber> I'm installing that at school too (to replace tons of Ubuntu CDs :))
[15:03] <highvoltage> then again, if they don't get the data, they will probably just wait for it
[15:04] <highvoltage> for booting up an entire, big lab, it might be a good thing though.
[15:04] <stgraber> highvoltage: multicast is fine for disk images where you wait for all the clients to be ready then send the data in your case I don't really see where you can use multicast ...
[15:04]  * highvoltage will have to ask for more information from the multicast-loudmouths
[15:05] <highvoltage> stgraber: that's what I thought too, except for maybe booting lots of clients
[15:05] <highvoltage> I suppose it's possible to multicast just *some* stuff?
[15:06] <stgraber> hmm, hardware being different, ... the only thing you can get by multicast would be the initrd, on-demmand access won't work (at least that's how I understand the multicast thing)
[15:06] <highvoltage> oh, but it would probably be difficult over the same protocol (I was thinking of when an entire class opens up openoffice)
[15:06] <stgraber> it's not like if all your clients were retrieving the exact same data
[15:06] <highvoltage> yeah
[15:08] <stgraber> multicast is perfect for video stream (I use it with VLC on some clients, running a sort of local app waiting for the stream sent by the teacher), not sure how you can use it for file transfer
[15:09] <stgraber> highvoltage: might work if you have an initrd downloading a base image, uncompressing it in RAM, then booting it
[15:10] <stgraber> highvoltage: but that would eat a lot of RAM (then it won't require any network access)
[15:11] <highvoltage> stgraber: for sure.
[15:58] <RichEd> stgraber: how is the italc panelbeating gping ?
[15:59] <RichEd> any chance of it being workable for 8.04 ?
[16:13] <stgraber> RichEd: demo mode crashes, waiting from an upstream patch (I can't fix it myself)
[16:14] <stgraber> RichEd: everything else works just fine
[16:27] <RichEd> stgraber: thanks :)
[16:28] <boiblu> im having problems trying to get firefox to play youtube
[16:29] <boiblu> anyone know why?
[18:16] <lns> I apologize in advance to everyone who is also in #ltsp (for duping a conversation)...  FYI Everyone: If you want to help fix the OpenOffice pixmap LTSP crash issue, register and comment on the following issue in the OOo issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=85321
[18:16] <ubotu> OpenOffice.org bug 85321 in framework "OOo caches large pixmaps to X server, crashing the X server." [Defect,Unconfirmed: ]
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[18:16] <lns> wow....saucy ;)
[23:46] <mcfloppy_> moin