[02:15] Just wondering, are questions portable in this chan for ubuntu/ltsp ? Or should it be strictly edubuntu installs only (since they are so similar post-install)? [02:16] you could probably ask here [02:28] but #ltsp itself would be good too [02:28] you'd prolly get more assistance there [02:29] especially since you can rely on debian folks assistance too in many cases [02:29] (note, thats not an invite to ask #debian) [02:29] heh [02:29] definitely not [02:30] oh.. lns you've been there .. [02:31] almost all the folks who answer ltsp questions who hang out in here, are also there [02:31] but not the opposite [02:32] also actually asking the question helps ;) [08:04] good mornin [08:04] g [08:36] hi RichEd [08:36] hi juliux [08:36] RichEd, what do you think about edubuntu coffee mugs? [08:37] juliux: nice idea :) they hang around on people's work desk ... so it is a constant advert / reminder [08:37] RichEd, ubuntu-de is thinking about the idea [08:40] RichEd, is it ok for you if we produce the mugs? [08:41] i am sure it is fine ... perhaps send a mail to the trademark address asking permission, but of course letting them know you are a loco ... [08:41] let me get the mail address for you [08:43] trademarks@ubuntu.com [08:43] normaly we don't need that because we have a contract about the logo usage [08:43] but i will write them an e-mail [08:43] http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy [08:45] morning RichEd [08:45] hi LaserJock [08:46] hi LaserJock [08:47] sorry I missed the meeting, thought it was the late one [08:49] seemed there was some confusion around the meeting slot yesterday [08:49] i also thought it was the late one until i checked the fridge [08:49] we had the early one the week before [08:49] :/ [08:51] I was gonna say a little bit about some artwork stuff [08:52] I was talking with _MMA_ (Ubuntu Studio lead) about what they were doing with their art packages [08:53] and some of the changes they're working on for Ubuntu as well [08:53] and he said he could have a look at the Edubuntu artwork packaging [08:54] we created https://.launchpad.net/edubuntu-look as a project which the edubuntu-artwork LP team is a driver [08:54] so then the packaging/artwork could all be done in a bzr branch [08:56] ogra was hoping that someone from the art team would join the meeting yesterday after the mail thread discussion ... but no-one did [08:56] yes, well, I'm not sure they do IRC as much [08:56] i mailed Jill last night asking her to do a new wallpaper ... she was keen when last we spoke [08:56] there were a few art people who joined ~edubuntu-art [08:56] and a wallpaper submission [08:57] although I think we are usually pretty good for wallpapers [08:57] did you like the default for 7.10 ? [08:57] it was ok, I think we could have refined it some more [08:58] I think it'd be nice to sort of work more on consistency throughout [08:58] gdm splash, boot splash, etc. and the website [08:59] but _MMA_ has some experience on the packaging/technical end which is nice [08:59] I don't think he can commit to too much, but I think he'd be willing to help a team [09:05] there's also an icon theme we might consider using based on Gartoon called GNUtoon [09:05] it's basically Gartoon+ [09:05] more icons [13:14] ogra: are you around? [13:16] ogra: ping [14:45] highvoltage, now i am, sorry, was in the basement [14:57] ogra: not a problem! [14:58] ogra: have you ever used, or do you know much about multicasting? [14:58] we used it in the cable company where i worked before for iptv but i didnt have direct contact with that [14:59] do you have a patch for me ? [14:59] :) [14:59] heh, I wish! [14:59] to try it [14:59] the guys at work say that some provisoning systems use multicast to send the data to all the clients [15:00] right [15:00] and when I suggested ubiquity over ltsp a while back, they wanted me to look uno multicasting for that [15:00] I wasn't sure if it's possible, just looked at the ticket again today [15:00] ubiquity over ltsp ? [15:01] you mean run the live image netbooted ? [15:01] well, originally I was going to run a full "fat" nfs environment that runs ubiquity, this was before LTSP used squashfs, etc [15:02] but yes, we'll probably do live image netbooted now [15:02] there is a setup somewhere on the wiki [15:02] yes, I think it's moquist's setup [15:02] robert collins built that for a conference once [15:02] for an ubuntu booth [15:03] do you think it's technically possible for a setup like that to use multicast? [15:03] hmm, no idea [15:03] the thing is just, the clients will probably want the data at different times [15:03] I'm installing that at school too (to replace tons of Ubuntu CDs :)) [15:03] then again, if they don't get the data, they will probably just wait for it [15:04] for booting up an entire, big lab, it might be a good thing though. [15:04] highvoltage: multicast is fine for disk images where you wait for all the clients to be ready then send the data in your case I don't really see where you can use multicast ... [15:04] * highvoltage will have to ask for more information from the multicast-loudmouths [15:05] stgraber: that's what I thought too, except for maybe booting lots of clients [15:05] I suppose it's possible to multicast just *some* stuff? [15:06] hmm, hardware being different, ... the only thing you can get by multicast would be the initrd, on-demmand access won't work (at least that's how I understand the multicast thing) [15:06] oh, but it would probably be difficult over the same protocol (I was thinking of when an entire class opens up openoffice) [15:06] it's not like if all your clients were retrieving the exact same data [15:06] yeah [15:08] multicast is perfect for video stream (I use it with VLC on some clients, running a sort of local app waiting for the stream sent by the teacher), not sure how you can use it for file transfer [15:09] highvoltage: might work if you have an initrd downloading a base image, uncompressing it in RAM, then booting it [15:10] highvoltage: but that would eat a lot of RAM (then it won't require any network access) [15:11] stgraber: for sure. [15:58] stgraber: how is the italc panelbeating gping ? [15:59] any chance of it being workable for 8.04 ? [16:13] RichEd: demo mode crashes, waiting from an upstream patch (I can't fix it myself) [16:14] RichEd: everything else works just fine [16:27] stgraber: thanks :) [16:28] im having problems trying to get firefox to play youtube [16:29] anyone know why? [18:16] I apologize in advance to everyone who is also in #ltsp (for duping a conversation)... FYI Everyone: If you want to help fix the OpenOffice pixmap LTSP crash issue, register and comment on the following issue in the OOo issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=85321 [18:16] OpenOffice.org bug 85321 in framework "OOo caches large pixmaps to X server, crashing the X server." [Defect,Unconfirmed: ] [18:16] !ubotu [18:16] I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [18:16] wow....saucy ;) [23:46] moin