[00:01] stdin: hmm... not here [00:02] 3rd up is "Run Command", after "Log Out..." and "Lock Session" [00:05] are you using KDM ? [00:10] Yes [00:10] stdin: root 5665 0.0 0.0 3264 512 ? Ss Jan15 0:00 /usr/bin/kdm -config /var/run/kdm/kdmrc [00:10] ii kdm 4:3.5.8-2ubuntu14 X display manager for KDE [00:15] hmm, it's definitely there for me [00:15] http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1880/kmenu1sl4.jpg [00:18] hmm... another issue. [00:18] fire up konsole-kde4 in hardy... right click a link, "Open Link"... do you get this error message? [00:18] KLauncher could not be reached via D-Bus, error when calling start_service_by_desktop_path: [00:18] empty [00:20] nope, starts konqueror (KDE4) with the link open [00:20] crud... [00:20] * ryanakca wonders if it's just his installation that is kaput [00:21] I've found that if you close your eyes, put your hands over your ears and hum loudly then most issues go away ;) [00:21] stdin: or wait, right clicking your link opened the window up... but it also gave me an error message... odd [00:21] KDEInit could not launch '/usr/bin/kview'. [00:21] well now [00:21] ryanakca that melding from d-bus did i get also [00:22] * ryanakca tries again and hopes to get the "You have succesfully deleted your root partition. Congratulations!" error [00:23] * ryanakca scratches his head and gets back to his essay [00:33] gn8 [02:01] nixternal: Wake up :) [02:24] If I have two files that I want to merge, say file1 with lines A, B, C, E and file2 with lines A, B, D, E, F. How to output a merged file with lines A, B, C, D, E, F? I've tried mucking around with diff but I havent figured it out or it may not do it... [02:25] have you tried join ? [02:25] no. I will try now. thanks [02:25] and #kubuntu is the help chan [02:26] this is a dev channel and I'm devving so I figured there would be a better solution here [02:27] oh woops, was there a meeting today? [02:30] red_team316: you are devving for kubuntu? :) [02:34] oh, no. I am working on the reconstructor rewrite [02:35] it's being rewritten already? [02:35] what happened to the first project? [02:36] essentially the problem I'm trying to solve right now is to be able to combine configuration files without using kwriteconfig or gconftool [02:37] or whatever gobuntu uses [02:38] It's in the process of being rewritten atm. Older versions are still okay but the code is pretty ugly and the new version will address that as well as add some extra features. [02:38] yuriy: I keep on missing meetings... I might have to step down soon :( [02:39] (as if I had a position) [02:39] Jucato: busy with life? [02:40] sort of.. and also forgetting :( [02:40] I know theres several blueprints on launchpad for something ubuntu can use as a prog to customize distros but atm, reconstructor, uck, etc... do not fill the requirements. Plus, the rewrite is going to be aimed at any flavor of linux, not just ubuntu/debian based. [02:42] revisor for fedora is similar but guess what, it only works on fedora :/ [02:42] red_team316: I don't think Ubuntu has something like that yet... unfortunately [02:43] (even with the build system (PPA) came in a bit late...) [02:43] well, i know bootstrapping is how the make ubuntu. explain a bit more Jucato. [02:44] red_team316: I don't know anything about that. I'm just saying that we have no revisor-like utility yet [02:44] PPA is almost like openSUSE's Build Service (I think) [02:44] !ppa [02:44] With Launchpad's Personal Package Archives (PPA), you can build and publish binary Ubuntu packages for multiple architectures simply by uploading an Ubuntu source package to Launchpad. See https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart. [02:44] but that's for building packages, not cd images [02:45] ah, sounds slick though [02:45] Lumaya Jucato :-) [02:46] :D [02:46] moin DaSkreech__ [02:46] are you in the US of A already? [02:47] Jucato: and PPS build ubuntu packages openSUse will build them for any distro [02:47] No Soon [02:48] !pps [02:48] Sorry, I don't know anything about pps - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [02:48] hm.. [02:48] PPA :-p [02:48] aaah === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [02:52] i noticed the ppa gets updated more frequently are those packges considered more developmental? [02:54] more frequently than what? [02:56] * DaSkreech__ waves [02:56] OK, I could care less what any person in the world thinks about Microsoft, but at this time, I can tell you it totally sucks ass [02:57] I want to know how having virus protection doesn't do what it is supposed to [02:57] nixternal: So you could care either way then? [02:57] Windows is the biggest joke there is hands down [02:58] if it wasn't for Linux, Knoppix in this case, this guy would have lost everything on his system [02:58] Yeah I heard that a lot before [02:58] more than 400 trojans [02:58] what? [02:58] these trojans filled up the C drive, leaving you totally helpless [02:59] I booted up knoppix, ran the ntfs crap, mounted the drive, deleted these bogus files (150GB worth), removed everything I knew that was a virus, ran regedit on it, ran f-prot on it, and then some [03:00] even after that it still has some issues that I am trying to work through [03:00] windows is a pos, any computer that allows this type of crap to happen so easily doesn't need to be on the market [03:00] Would have been faster to use a kubuntu CD [03:00] no way, knoppix owns in this arena [03:01] Nope Kubuntu is faster [03:01] you can't beat it for saving microsoft turds [03:01] have you tried the new knoppix 5.1.1? [03:01] has a handy install button that wipes out all virus [03:01] mwaahhahahaaa [03:01] ya for us maybe, not for people who can't use it [03:14] knoppix has saved my data once. lol DaSkreech__ [03:16] nixternal: Yeah leaving OHD @ 10:00 [03:17] Didn't say it couldn't [03:17] said Kubuntu gets rid of virus faster :) [03:20] kubuntu saved all of my moms data once [03:20] took 3 days to get it, but it saved it [03:21] Yeah I've done some amazing things with testdisk and a live Cd [03:23] i love using free tools to get paid [03:24] (kubuntu) [03:24] and i love engrish [03:24] Well that is my job :) [03:25] I sell free stuff [03:25] DaSkreech__: i meant using kubuntu to recover data from my moms dying laptop, which contained all of her data and info for her business [03:26] which meant that when i helped, she paid me for it [03:26] and engrish is just plain funny [03:28] ha my mom never pays me for anything :) [03:33] join may work. It outputs the similarities of the files, which I can use with a little work. Is there a way to have join output the different lines? [03:42] > newfile ? [03:42] red_team316: Oh crap [03:42] try paste [03:58] * yuriy finds it a bit strange that subversion considers opendocument a binary file [03:59] It's zipped [03:59] yuriy: It is [03:59] ScottK: it is strange or it is binary? [03:59] i thought it was XML [04:01] yuriy: When you unzip it [04:01] yuriy: It's binary [04:02] DaSkreech__: oh [04:04] I guess imbrandon would be out of town :( [04:41] seele: Ha ha you get there a few minutes before me [04:59] DaSkreech__: are you attending the release party in the mountains? [05:00] yes [05:01] and I wish imbrandon or nixternal Were home :( [05:02] DaSkreech__: I so hate you :( [05:02] Be free my friend [05:04] not free enough to go there :( [05:20] Jucato: Sorry,. You can throw a party where you are :) [05:20] ConfigParser is what I need :) [05:20] I will... just drink myself to a stupor.. [05:21] Wake you up when 4.1 comes out? [05:24] :D [05:24] more like 4.5 === _czessi is now known as Czessi [05:45] apachelogger__: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1294 [05:49] nixternal!!!! :D [05:49] wasabi? [05:49] btw, we seem to have lost aseigo :( [05:49] 8 hours to fix a damn Windows computer [05:49] huh? [05:49] lost aseigo? [05:49] yeah. to suse :( [05:49] oh [05:50] he is nothing more than a happless user anyways, what good is he :p [05:50] lol [05:50] yummy [05:50] wasabi [05:50] mmmmhhhhhhhh [05:50] nixternal: ~alpha1 IMO [05:52] heads up to yakuake lovers. there will be a last KDE 3 release of Yakuake, version 2.8.1... just don't know if Sho_ will get it out before Hardy... but it's pretty much finished [05:52] nixternal: debian/copyright says it's LGPL,COPYING is shipping a copy of GPL though [05:53] damnit, I copied the wrong copyright again [05:53] :) [05:55] nixternal: please have a look at kdebase-workspace's debian/rules and use it's kde4-wrapper-creation ... result will be the same but IMO it's better if we target to use the same basic structure all over the place [05:56] also... I think there is a kblogger icon in oxygen, so please change the .desktop creation to use oxygen instead of hicolor [05:56] looks good otherwise... will have another look in half an hour [05:56] gotta go to school :D [05:57] we have changed the wrapper script again? [05:57] nixternal: yeah final [05:58] there were some issues... for some reason it sometimes didn't build on various archs [05:59] also for some packages the processing sequence changed, which br0ke the wrappers [05:59] kde4-wrapper-creation is called after make install finished for both, arch and indep [06:00] so it's pretty much unbreakable :D [06:00] * apachelogger__ is kinda proud of that baby [06:00] hum, gotta go... laters [06:06] apachelogger__: just so you know, it is using the Oxygen KBlogger icon [06:07] Icon=kblogger [06:13] nixternal: so we aren't meeting up at all then huh? [06:14] Tuesday would be no, what time do you get in on Monday? [06:14] oh shite, I have class next Monday night...I hate this staggered semester start [06:14] why can't they start all classes in the same week [06:14] 8:55 [06:15] damn man, that totally sucks [06:15] I get out of class at 10pm and have to check in at the other campus by 11pm [06:16] so I have to take what is normally a 1.5 hour drive, and consolidate it into an hour :) [06:16] Screw that skip the first class and hang with me :) [06:17] I can't, it is the first night of class [06:17] if it was the 2nd night then I could [06:17] when are you flying to Cali? tomorrow? [06:18] yes [06:18] damnit I wish I could go [06:18] is Riddell there right now or does he get in tomorrow as well? [06:19] anyone want to lend me a few thousand dollars by the way? I have $3300 in unpaid parking tickets since 1989 [06:20] everything is cool unless I get pulled over :) [06:23] nixternal: are you going to Mt.View with DaSkreech__? [06:23] oh wait, I should have read :( [06:23] nope [06:23] haha [06:23] let's mourn together then :( [06:24] but why won't you be able to go? at least you're on the same continent [06:24] Jucato: No I'm stopping in Chicago on the way back and nixternal won't meet with me :( [06:24] the City of Chicago is evil...they pull your passport too [06:24] * DaSkreech__ sticks tongue out at nixternal [06:24] ouch [06:25] I liked the old school passports, where they just looked at you funny, asked your business, and then stamped it..now everything is run by these damn computers [06:25] I hate computers! [06:25] they hate you [06:25] so why can't you ditch class one? [06:25] everyone hates me, you get used to it after a while [06:26] See I do get to say it :) [06:26] I blame nixternal ! [06:26] even if I did ditch, you get in at 8:55, which puts you out of the terminal by 9:30 at the earliest, I would have to leave at about then to get to the visitor dorms at the other campus [06:27] Dagnabit [06:27] I thought that was "dangnabit" [06:27] nope, it is dagnabit :) [06:27] ok [06:27] well leave me the keys to your apartment and at least I'll have a bed :) [06:27] the only reason I know that, is I read a script for a Disney cartoon many years ago [06:28] hahah [06:28] I don't have an apartment, I live in a small dungeon that is attached to my parent's house [06:28] actually attached to their garage [06:28] I thought dungeons were underground? [06:28] :D [06:28] It could be attached at the bottom [06:28] you couldn't tell the difference, I don't have any windows really [06:29] er... you have Vista right? [06:29] * Jucato runs [06:29] yup, and I love it [06:29] I am thinking about becoming a Vista developer [06:29] since all of my code is crappy and buggy, I figured it is a perfect fit [06:30] lol [06:30] ew. [06:30] Yeah I know living with parents? right? [06:30] I just found out today that my brother-in-law should be getting his Macbook Air very soon...his sister works for Apple and he has the connection...thinking about breaking into his house and stealing it..damn rich people anyways [06:31] Rich people who get free stuff [06:31] ya [06:31] that is stupid [06:34] OK, time to watch a little tv..I need a computer break. [06:34] Night [06:35] Wonder who else in chicago I know :) [07:24] nixternal: debian/docs is redundant debhelper.mk does autolookup [07:30] you sure? that must have been fixed in the past [07:33] I did a booboo on that upload anyways :p [07:38] good morning folks [07:50] * Riddell pops in from sunnyvale [07:51] yay! :) [07:53] hiya Riddell! [07:53] how is cali? [07:53] cali... hindu goddess of destruction? :D [07:53] apache|mobile: new upload in route to revu, give it a few minutes [07:54] nixternal: I bet it's fun over there :( [07:54] that sounds just like northern California [07:54] lol [07:54] !lol | Jucato [07:54] You have to love San Fran though, it is a beautiful city [07:54] I miss the west coast [07:54] my god, 2am already [07:55] too early... [07:56] Windows just attacked me! [07:56] I think I have a fat lip [08:01] http://www.i4u.com/article14093.html [08:02] Wall-Mart just got owned [08:04] * hads wishes one retailer in his country offered Linux pre-installed [08:09] http://www.news.com/8301-13580_3-9849110-39.html?tag=nefd.pulse [08:09] Riddell: ^^ we got some love from CNet of all people :) [08:10] articles which say "commercial support is absent" are not love [08:10] they're wrong [08:10] * Riddell snoozes === aRyn_ is now known as aRyn [08:20] nixternal: formatting issue in debian/copyright :P [08:20] somehow you mixed tabs with white spaces [08:20] nixternal: version of GPL for packaging please [08:20] * apache|mobile testbuilds [08:22] version for packaging? when they update the template I will worry about that [08:23] stupid emacs indent cleaner [08:29] nixternal: licenensing in GPL ain't licensing at all unless you refer to a specific version [08:29] 2+ or something [08:29] I just went through a few of the Debian repos, and none of their copyright files have a version [08:29] there is a link to the copyright file that has all of that info [08:38] nixternal: so they are wrong, we can't force upstreams to add proper licensing information and don't apply the rules on our own work [08:40] heh, the people who controll the DFLG are wrong? [08:41] it has been that way since 1995 that I can remember [08:41] nixternal: might not have gotten through yet :P [08:41] anyway, change it [08:41] + http://lintian.debian.org/reports/Tcopyright-lists-upstream-authors-with-dh_make-boilerplate.html [08:41] otherwise ok with me [08:41] ohh [08:41] nixternal: I still think it should be 1.0~alpha1 [08:42] but it is alpha2 [08:42] I downloaded alpha2, it was just blogged about, put on kde-apps, and it is even on the kblogger website as alpha 2 [08:42] lol [08:43] nixternal: ~alpha2 then ;-) [08:43] -(~/kblogger:$)-> dpkg --compare-versions 1.0-alpha1 lt 1.0; echo $? [08:43] 1 [08:43] alpha1 was what aseigo blogged about a month or so back [08:43] nixternal: I just misread [08:44] that boilerpate page is kind of silly, there is a reason for (s) [08:44] nope [08:44] there is a reason for Authors [08:44] and Author [08:44] not for Author(s) [08:45] unless one author is joining and leaving the project on regular base ;-) [08:45] I guess I fixed that in my Debian packages, even though I don't remember doing it [08:45] ooh, all of my packages have it right in Debian...isn't that nifty [08:47] :) [08:47] OK, just fixed the copyright file s/$s$/s [08:53] nixternal: advocated, go for it tiger :P [08:54] go ahead and archive that on revu [08:54] uploaded to new [08:55] nixternal: archived [08:55] thank you sir [09:43] Riddell, Hobbsee: can you please kick kblogger-kde4 from hardy queue? [09:43] nixternal: you have to change the version to ~alpha2 [09:43] 1.0-alpha2 > 1.0 [09:44] bah, I didn't even catch that [09:45] I told you 2 times :P [09:45] didn't notice before advocating though [09:45] you kept saying alpha1, that's what I was catching [09:46] nixternal: [09:43] nixternal: ~alpha2 then ;-) [09:46] :P [09:46] ya, but I thought I already had it like that [09:46] apachelogger_: ha! someone is lagging [09:46] that's what I am saying [09:46] nixternal: ok [09:46] stupid release tags [09:46] that's the reason I didn't see the - [09:46] amarok will use numbas for 2 as well [09:47] tech preview will be 1.80 [09:47] oh, right, I should package that :D [09:47] that's the way it should be [09:47] meh [09:47] son [09:47] yes, mom? [09:47] I love you [09:48] * apache|mobile always hoped Tm_T would say that least once in her life [09:49] np: Sexe, Drogue et Cholestérol - Je suis un Geek [09:50] * nixternal beds [09:50] g'nite [09:52] nini nixternal [09:55] <_StefanS_> hey there [09:56] apache|mobile: which queue? [09:56] Hobbsee: new [09:56] ah [09:56] <_StefanS_> Riddell: hey you.. did you commit that patch I made for k3b and videodvd:/ kioslave? I cant see it on my hardy machine.. [09:57] oh, meh, it's already been done [09:57] oi [09:58] Hobbsee: thanks anyway :) [10:02] apache|mobile: ya, fixed and uploading already :p [10:02] I was about to go to sleep but pitti hit me up [10:02] *excellent* [10:11] apache|mobile: fixed and uploaded, now can I go to sleep? :) [10:11] 04:11! yay! [10:11] k'nite for real this time [10:12] nini#2 [10:12] nixternal: dont leave meeeeee [10:13] Tm_T: Oo [10:13] you're now with nixternal? [10:14] apache|mobile: no, but he is my nurse [10:14] Oo [10:14] omg === techno_freak is now known as parthan [12:11] apachelogger_: I fixed the oxygen-cursor-theme package [12:12] * apachelogger_ is listening to Rastardennes by Boules de Feu on Têtes à Couacs [Amarok] [12:12] french music? ;) [12:12] french++ [12:13] apachelogger_: good stuff - downloading the album now - jamendo ftw ;-) [12:13] thx for the tip [12:14] <- knows all tha good music [12:14] indeed [12:14] Nightrose: you should checkout Boules de Feu, only wind instruments [12:14] will do [12:14] if you like that kind of sound Boules de Feu totally rock [12:16] apachelogger_: one needs to get used to it - but nice [12:16] Nightrose: song 2 and 10 are quite good [12:17] k [12:19] smarter: Priority: optional plz [12:20] smarter: I think you can kill ${shlibs:Depends} in the Depends: [12:20] apachelogger_: k. [12:20] will not catch anything at all [12:21] smarter: looks good otherwise, will testbuild as soon as kdeedu finished [12:21] * apachelogger_ also notes that ruphy might be in CA for the kde4 release party [12:21] oh how I would love to be there as well :S [12:22] * Nightrose too *sob* [12:22] well [12:22] amarok2 release party will kick ass [12:22] ;-) [12:23] apachelogger_: uploaded [12:23] * apachelogger_ is one heck of a party organizer :P [12:23] jamendo player doesn't work under konqueror :/ [12:23] all will be better with webkit [12:23] muhahahaha [12:24] * smarter is going to apt-get install webkitkde [12:26] webkitkde depends on kdebase-runtime-bin which doesn't exist anymore :/ [12:26] new package is kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 [12:26] well [12:26] it wouldn't do any good [12:27] I think its still not finished [12:27] only basic rendering stuff [12:27] it was just to test [12:27] but the package should be updated or removed [12:28] it's in gutsy-backports/universe [12:28] Riddell: ^ [12:28] hardy has a new version [12:29] Time to go to school [12:29] bye [12:31] apachelogger_: see http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146882 as a solution to bug 182349 - maybe that can be backported [12:31] Launchpad bug 182349 in kdenetwork-kde4 "Kopete-kde4 has an issue with message handling under behavioural settings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182349 [12:31] KDE bug 146882 in general ""Message handling" unset when setting it to "Open messages instantly" and reopening the configuration dialog" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [12:33] Nightrose: please comment on the ubuntu bug with that ... how urgent is a fix? [12:34] * apachelogger_ just thinks about peoples bandwith, one kde source package per day is enough to download ;-) [12:34] not really urgent but would be nice === \sh_away is now known as \sh [12:34] yea just include it in the next fix [12:34] as it works for now [12:34] you just don´t get any message notification at all when you choose "open messages instantly" [12:34] at least I don´t [12:36] cool [12:36] commented [12:37] <\sh> moins [12:37] heya \sh :) [12:45] ahoy \sh [12:45] Nightrose: are ye b0red? ;-) [12:45] apachelogger_: not really why? [12:45] bug 182466 [12:46] Launchpad bug 182466 in kdenetwork-kde4 "kopete-kde4 doesn't override contact's font settings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182466 [12:47] apachelogger_: want me to verify? or search for a fix? [12:47] Nightrose: both ;-) [12:47] latter is also ok with me [12:47] hehe ok I will dry my hair and then see what I find [12:47] +can [12:47] but might be a waste of time in case it's just pebkec [12:47] ok [12:47] Nightrose: you're my most favorite rose :P [12:48] ;-) thx honey [12:48] afk [12:49] apachelogger_: it overrides.. but only after you hide/show contacts.. [12:50] cool [12:50] * apachelogger_ tests oxygen-cursor-theme [12:57] re [12:57] iRon: what do you mean by hide/show contacts? [12:58] Nightrose: panel button Show hidden users [12:59] Nightrose: er.. Show offline users [12:59]